WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:11.199 Hey, you out there there, want you can tell that 2 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:18.600 they have sometime? Hey, cloud chasing, that's cool. Cool, I 3 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.960 actually got something to mind, So keep rusting. 4 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:24.399 You'll find down out. 5 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.920 This is a Touchdowns and Tangentines your week week spot 6 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.039 or NFL Coach. 7 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:37.079 And Context for the what's up good people? Touchdowns and 8 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.359 tangents here, fresh off a week off your Thursday Night 9 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.280 spot for NFL takes topical tangents. We got a lot 10 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.439 to get to tonight, everything from the NFL Combine breakdown 11 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:55.039 to previewing free agency. But yeah, man, football season really 12 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.119 only takes a month off and we're kind of right 13 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:59.479 back into the swings with the draft and off season. 14 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.799 But in case you didn't know, I'm Pd Camrio. 15 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:09.079 And he is Kenneth Barry Freshly thirty three. Damn, that's right. 16 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:10.760 We haven't had a podcast since your birthday. 17 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:15.560 But yeah, man, it's been a hell of a couple 18 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:21.439 of weeks. Lots of peaks and valleys. But yeah, I 19 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.640 don't know you want to say anything about your birthday 20 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.439 before we jump into the combine. Oh it was great 21 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:28.519 a true. 22 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.799 For people who are Christian, you know, thirty three is 23 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.159 like a super serious number because it has to do 24 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.760 with Christ and all that. And also like my older 25 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.120 sister was like, damn, you were older is Jesus? When 26 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:47.519 he died, I was like, that's not funny. And of 27 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.799 course we laughed hysterically because it's like when we were kids. 28 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.120 It's like, Hey, when you're thirty three, I'm going to 29 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.599 be this, and when I'm thirty whatever, you're going to 30 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:56.840 be that. 31 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:01.560 And now we're all here and I'm just like flies, 32 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:08.879 thankful to be here. Though. Yeah, man, so NFL, come 33 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.400 on your initial thoughts takeaways. 34 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.680 Ironically, I think none of the corners ran below four 35 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.879 to six this year. What Nope, just a couple of safeties, 36 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:24.960 but like none of them. All the corners ran like 37 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.439 sob four four four three ran a four to two. 38 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:33.919 This is incredibly fast skilled group. The receivers, Matthew Golden, 39 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:35.919 I don't think anybody saw him running the four two nine. 40 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.840 You might be a top ten pick now some running backs. 41 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.560 All the running backs ran great forties, Donovan Edwards being one. 42 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.960 Raheem Sanders said he I figured hed run four four 43 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:49.719 What do you mean there's a bunch of corners that 44 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.639 ran and so forth? For no, I'm saying none of 45 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:57.360 them ran a four to six. Oh like no corner 46 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.759 at the I don't know they A lot of them 47 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:07.120 ran sub four fours, sub four threes, sub four fives. 48 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.120 Very fast athletic group this year. 49 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.479 Yeah, I think that's kind of the case collectively. I mean, 50 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:18.520 you have offensive linemen running four nine s five one. 51 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:29.319 You had d lineman running fastest ship too, four four 52 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:34.120 sevens four five six. I mean if you look at 53 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.719 the edge, there's only one player ran over four eight. 54 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.879 That's pretty crazy. Yep. 55 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.199 And yeah, people really sleep on how athletic off of 56 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:52.759 the linemen are. Like the North Dakota State off the 57 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.960 tackle had a thirty six and a half vertical. They're 58 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:57.800 receivers and dbs who don't have that. 59 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.280 I mean, like even of that. 60 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.719 I got thirty didn't have vertical means you can dunk 61 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.639 on an NBA court. I don't think people understand that concept. 62 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.719 Three hundred pounds men running five one forties with elite 63 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:12.360 vertical leaping ability and quick twitch, Like, I don't think 64 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.800 people realize how athletic these offensive linemen. 65 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:19.759 Are at every level. Look what I mean, Middle State. 66 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:23.959 Dude, even like the d tackles, I mean like four eights. 67 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.519 The slowest time is really like a five too. Yeah, 68 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.800 the Guard's only two people that were in Lott Short 69 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.480 ran slower than the five too. Yeah, that's the slowest 70 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.399 tackle man, like a five to four. And a lot 71 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:41.800 of guys Florida Center, oh, a lot of Carolina Center. 72 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.160 Oh yeah. And then a lot of guys just didn't 73 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.040 run you and Travis Hunter wasn't going to perform. People 74 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.399 kind of crap it on your door, Sanders. 75 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:52.000 Which. 76 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:59.759 Draft time exposes a lot of race, like draft. 77 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.120 Tar Cooking, Tyler Show both and four. 78 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.759 Six, Seth Hanan for seven six all three. I didn't 79 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.319 even think he was that fast, But that's cool. Brady 80 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.639 Cook's a good development for I feel like all three 81 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.959 of those guys are good development, great money, like six 82 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.319 seventh round picks that you know might be able to 83 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:23.079 develop into something. And then you also, who was the 84 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.600 second guy on Shall Yeah, yeah, he might earn his 85 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:28.839 way as like a backup. 86 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.720 They say the Raiders fucking love him. 87 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:36.600 Han Seth Hannigan too, all time quarterback and touchdown thrower 88 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:43.319 in mephis history, only QB who actually stayed all four years. 89 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.720 Really in like the past seven years, he's like the 90 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.480 only one. Everybody else transferred or came from those school. 91 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.800 It was kind of crazy, yeah, I mean overall. 92 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:55.600 I mean, I think you were talking to me about 93 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.199 it during the week, but I mean the running back 94 00:05:58.240 --> 00:05:59.759 class is pretty crazy itself. 95 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.000 I mean, just look at all. 96 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.959 The guys who ran four fours check run back running 97 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:07.920 four three two. There's at least ten guys who. 98 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:13.399 Ran four fours. Fifteen that ran four fours. 99 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.879 It's probably one of the deepest running back classes ever. 100 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:20.079 Two from Virginia Tech. He looked really good at all 101 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:22.040 Senior bo week. He was really physical. 102 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:25.040 I didn't expect him to run a four three two though, Like, 103 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.480 that's pretty good for him. Strot Smith four three nine, 104 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.399 it's a good time for him. R J. Harvey for 105 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.399 four that's a great time for him as well. 106 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.959 Two hundred pounds former quarterback five nine. 107 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:41.399 And he's fucking solid, like rock solid. He's not a dude. 108 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.800 Do you want to run into junkins running four to 109 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:45.399 four eight? 110 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.839 Henderson ran a four four three, don if it ever 111 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.360 running four four five saying four four four, oh damn, 112 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.680 which is crazy because he's already like a game speed guy. 113 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.680 But he got speed speed. Yeah, home run Threat speed 114 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.000 Marshall Lenz speed. 115 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.800 Etn with the four to four to two, I guess, I. 116 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.759 Mean, he can't beat his brother at a forty, but 117 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:14.920 he's still really fast and the receivers. DeAndre Thornton ran 118 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.120 a four to three flat at six four two hundred 119 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:20.319 and five pounds, Yes, and he led the country to 120 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:22.920 twenty five yards to catch twenty five point four. So 121 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.399 it's like, yeah, check that box off. Golden could have 122 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.399 had a better combine. Isaiah Bond said he was gonna 123 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.040 break the record and only ran a four to four 124 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.720 to one, But it's like a four to four one 125 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.680 is like elite speed. Like if you run a four 126 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.680 to four, you're already in the top five percent of 127 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:47.240 fastest people on earth, So none of the lab it's 128 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.360 nothing to sneeze at. But it's just like, I mean, 129 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.279 maybe he needed to say that, so he for solidified 130 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.560 running a four to four, which is nothing wrong with that, Like, 131 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.519 I mean, him and Jayde Blue said they were gonna 132 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.680 run four was Jayson Blue ran a four three eight. 133 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.639 Texas running back John A. Barron ran a four three nine. 134 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.279 He's probably gonna be a top ten pick at corner 135 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.040 for sure. He didn't give up any touchdowns this year 136 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.319 he had. He gave up like thirty seven receptions for 137 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.720 two hundred and eighty four yards. That's insane. One of 138 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:24.839 the greatest seasons ever for a Texas dB. 139 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.279 So there you go. Shout out to uh Kyle Williams 140 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:37.600 La Area grab for four. Jayden Higgins was a guy 141 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.679 people really liked at the Senior Bowl. He put in 142 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:45.360 a four four to seven, came midrano at a four 143 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:53.120 four to six A linebacker Johnie Campbell, the Alabama linebacker 144 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.639 ran a four to five to two. He can go 145 00:08:55.639 --> 00:09:00.200 anywhere from top ten to top fifteen. Terrence Fergus him 146 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.480 put in the four sixty three. His gauntlet drill was 147 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:07.600 fucking cheeks, though I don't know what happened there. But 148 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:09.919 he's also kind of a clutch gamer kind of guy. 149 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:16.919 Did you talk about seventy year ran four nine five 150 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.919 Who Arizona tackle? 151 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.360 Oh yeah, Junior in the four nine and five, which 152 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.159 was actually kind of surprising because he's big as fuck. 153 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.919 He's a I mean, honestly, the bazoom tackle in a 154 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:35.000 four nine one. Yes, he got compared to like Jason Peters. 155 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.200 He measured in a legit six four like three thirty, 156 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.200 so he might not have to bump down the guard. 157 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.000 He might just beat the number one right tackle, Kevin 158 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:44.000 Banks turning five one. 159 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:45.519 Honestly, some people say Kevin. 160 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.159 Banks put in the five flat basically, Yeah, Kile Rodgers 161 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:55.600 the five women who also played guarden tackle, He's really 162 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.559 a guard, but he played right tackle this year. Chafers 163 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.559 for I see Jalo Smith ran. 164 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:02.360 A four four five? 165 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.159 Uh what he marks? I think ranted in the four 166 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.080 fives four six from Schamar Stewart's too great time. 167 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.320 Yeah, four five nine, Yeah, I gotta give him his 168 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.360 four or five nine respect. Yeah, and dressers don't like 169 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.960 when you round up. Nobody likes her forty time round up. 170 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.759 That's one of the one things you never round out 171 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:31.759 round up on someone. Kyle Knard four seven three. I'm 172 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:38.360 amad hasseini those Florida seven seven that's a good time 173 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:38.679 for him. 174 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.360 Yeah, Like three Florida receivers ran excellent times. Wid receiver 175 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:44.600 ran like a four three four Another round like a 176 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.440 four four six, So Florida sure had a lot of speed. 177 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:52.240 It's kind of crazy. Hat pearce all last year and 178 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.960 then these two guys this year just burners. Damn, I 179 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:00.519 was not expecting Madrona though four four six. I told him, 180 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.279 you did tell me he didn't look that fast though, 181 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:07.120 A right man. Honestly, Jeffrey BOSSI look faster than that. 182 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:08.720 When are you that fast? 183 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.919 You look at for this fast dudes who are know 184 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.120 they're fast. I can get there. 185 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.600 I can make up the extra half a second where 186 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.960 it's like Bossert or four six three, So he has 187 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:22.240 to be instinctive. 188 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:25.919 And go now. But he looks faster than that, just 189 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.919 not so that might actually hurt him. Tess Johnson around 190 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.279 four or five one might that's probably gonna hurt him too. 191 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:36.080 We have big hands, but he also weighed one fifty four, 192 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:40.240 so it's like, get some of the best. He has 193 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.480 a pretty good terms, but also some of the worst 194 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:45.679 for a dude who's only one hundred and fifty four pounds. 195 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:55.240 Who else Jayalen Smith put up at four four or five? 196 00:11:55.840 --> 00:12:03.279 Yeah, set that play corner safety slot cool can really 197 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:06.639 do everything. Sorry, nice woo. 198 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.519 I know you've been talking about it all week, but 199 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.879 every time I see that those two safety times, I'm 200 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:15.799 just like, damn. 201 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.240 The starks out of Georgia. 202 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.120 For single and M and worry the South Carolina and 203 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.120 Safety and Kansas State Safety. 204 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.000 Yeah one around a four three five and the jack 205 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:29.519 compared for. 206 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:31.840 Three seven and four three eight are the official times. 207 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:36.120 Yeah, and he was at six three two twenty. Great take, 208 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.120 great workout, Billy Boweman with the four four two. 209 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:41.759 That's a good time. I actually called it. 210 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:44.120 I was like, as soon as that's all I'm running, 211 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:46.000 they said un officially he had a four to four 212 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.200 six at four four seven, I was like, four four six. 213 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.080 You can kind of tell in the first ten yards. 214 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.159 But yeah, man, So what does all this shit mean? Basically, 215 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.279 we're gonna see probably a bunch of running backs in 216 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.159 the top one hundred, top one, top fucking yeah, top 217 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:04.639 one hundred, top three rounds. 218 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:06.440 Some quarterbacks get snacked up. 219 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.679 I think we're gonna see a lot of dbs and 220 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.879 d Linman in that time as well, which means some 221 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:19.799 receivers are probably gonna slip. I think I think qvs 222 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.240 might even sleep slip, because I mean, if you look 223 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.759 at it from the top, I mean, cam Ward is 224 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:29.000 basically the number one pick if you believe all the 225 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:33.279 sports books. I think Shadeer's odds that going number one 226 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:39.519 have basically like gone up six times. Like it was 227 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.120 like three to one the beginning of the offseason. Now 228 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.279 it's like twenty four to one or some shit like that. 229 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.080 Bill Carter still might go, but yeah, he could still go. 230 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.080 The thing about the what the sports books have right 231 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.200 now is they have cam Ward is the number one 232 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.039 as a favorite for number one, but they don't have 233 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:02.759 the Giants as the favorite to number one overall. So 234 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.240 basically they're predicting someone's gonna trade up to number one 235 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.320 and take him Moore and. 236 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.360 The Giants have Aaron Rodgers on the short list. After 237 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.440 that Matthew Stafford trade didn't happen. Shout out to Matthew 238 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.679 Stafford for and his wife for donating all that money 239 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.159 to Pacady to high school. Yeah it's not getting enough. 240 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.320 There's been a lot of great people out o Pacady, 241 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:25.440 No high. Shout out to Christ mc calister, Shout out yeah, 242 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:28.639 Arizona legend. Shout out to Steve Keral for donating a 243 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:32.639 bunch of money too. It's funny because it trickles back 244 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:34.279 to I guess a scene in the office where he 245 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:35.799 said if he had money, what would he do? 246 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:37.399 He ended up donating Its. 247 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:42.000 Like a either Alta Dina or like people affected by 248 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:44.240 the ESL fires and all that. 249 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.480 Yeah, I'm glad people are stepping up because PP gets 250 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:49.320 old a pr. 251 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:56.080 But yeah, man, so just overall with the combine, what 252 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.279 other kind of big the things do you think will. 253 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:00.879 Happen as far as draft because of it? 254 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.879 What Howard destroyed his draft stock because he was terrible? 255 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:10.080 But it's like you played seventeen games already tired. 256 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.039 I mean, just like overall, like big like big things, 257 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:18.919 not like specific players, just like. 258 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.320 Oh, people really hate Shador Sanders because of who his 259 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.679 father is kind of crazy, like when it's white nepotism, 260 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:33.480 it's okay, Like nobody hated Eli as a person coming 261 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.799 out of college and his dad forcibly. 262 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:42.159 I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think it's 263 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:46.200 also a different time, so it's kind of hard to 264 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.519 compare changed. I mean, we didn't really know Eli like 265 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.879 we know Sar, Like there wasn't social media like that. Now, 266 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.879 there wasn't nil like that. It's just it's a totally 267 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:00.840 different time. Like I don't even think it's fair to 268 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:04.240 compare that. Well, Like I get the premise that you're saying. 269 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:06.360 Dads in his life and he didn't grow up poor, 270 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:08.720 so the media can't really spend that. It's like, oh, 271 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.240 looks the poor black kid. Like they can try to 272 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.600 spend that with cam Ward what you know they're going 273 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.159 to because every year of the draft that is just 274 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:16.240 black trauma porn. 275 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.039 So like I mean yeah, but also some of it 276 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.759 is fucking real, like like there's really a lot of 277 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.840 exceptional stories and like this is a big moment for 278 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:34.039 a lot of them, like like getting that ship with 279 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.639 like Josh Jacobs, Like there's there's a number of great 280 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:43.799 stories that have resulted in in you know, this great 281 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.360 moment at the draft, Like I don't know, Like I mean, 282 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.559 I hear what you're saying, Like it is over exploited 283 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:55.080 and this, you know, but it is also like exceptional. 284 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.399 Yeah, but it's like what a god, what a kid 285 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.120 likes should you don't have any red flags. He's not 286 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.920 like Josh Rosen where people are like, oh, he's a 287 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.119 stuck up rich kill Like nah, it's an unapologetic young 288 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.039 black man. He got his daddy swagger and he can 289 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.720 articulate himself. He don't need you to explain his college 290 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.519 career to him. And people are saying, oh, he's just 291 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:26.079 he's that. It's like, man, great quarterbacks, they all have 292 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:27.359 an air of cockiness to. 293 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:31.400 Be a better comparison. 294 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.400 But people also did hate Rosen and he did have 295 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.759 a lot of social media, but they hated him because 296 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.599 he had a fucking pool and him because he was smart. 297 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.759 They hated him because he was smart. Honestly, really, that's 298 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:45.400 what it came down to me. He wasn't a bad person. 299 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:49.640 His teammates all loved him. He just opinionated like brothers. 300 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.960 But like he wasn't on some racist type ship. He 301 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:58.039 was like I understand, like my teammates have tougher lives 302 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.880 than I did. It's like you go to college to 303 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.240 understand people and get different perspectives so you realize the 304 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:08.960 world isn't just your viewpoint and you're allowed to work 305 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.640 with people and get outside your comfort zone. And I 306 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:16.680 feel like we punish college kids for the same thing 307 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.359 that we don't hold adults accountable for, which is weird 308 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.799 to me. That's why it's like kicking in some of 309 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.440 these kids back. You don't like how they interview, well, 310 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.319 they've never done that shit before, and you don't know 311 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.880 what they're asking because we already know these these teams 312 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.759 asked disrespectful ask questions. So when your mother was a 313 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.960 sucking dick as a crack horror fig like, we know 314 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.119 that exists, and we we know it exists not just 315 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.039 for black players but some white players, but acts some 316 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.079 real sketchy shit too. So let's not sit up in 317 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:47.519 an act like like Warren Tapp said, the combine is 318 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.960 a place where you go to lose. 319 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.359 Money, for sure. 320 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:54.119 So I just think people are really kicking in your 321 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:58.079 doors back and it's like, Okay, where's your journalistic credibility 322 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:01.880 and saying this through the bad prospect because literally his 323 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:05.079 tape is great in spite of the fact that he's 324 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:05.839 been sacked. 325 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:09.799 Like one hundred and fifty times. I think my thing 326 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:16.440 with this is just like the opportunity was ripe before shoulder. 327 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.960 I mean, the way he's positioned as like this, you know, 328 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:23.599 all time competitor and a guy who just likes to 329 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:26.480 compete and win. Like, I don't know, it's just like 330 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:29.920 you had an opportunity to go to the combine and 331 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.400 throw and yeah, you're right, like odds are against you. 332 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.920 But if he would have went there and fucking ben 333 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:41.960 lights out, I mean, Jackson dark wasn't even perfect, but 334 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:44.519 people are glazing him after the combine. What did I 335 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:47.200 tell you? And for a year now, what did I say? 336 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.759 I mean, you've been talking about Jackson Darty, but it's 337 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.039 like you now that you're just fucking it back. 338 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.359 Well, I still think he might be the outside dark 339 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:57.400 horse to be the number of world. 340 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.319 Yeah, but people are talking about him going into the 341 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.400 Todds Haend. You're saying he shouldn't even go in the 342 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:01.920 first round. 343 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.200 No, that's what you've been saying. You've been saying, that's 344 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:07.880 what the other guy said that I told him. You've 345 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.880 been he said he won't go. I said he's going. 346 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.880 You've been saying some team's gonna overdraft him. You've been 347 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.519 saying he's gonna You've been saying he shouldn't. 348 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:17.720 Go that high. Though he been saying shouldn't go. You've 349 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.480 been predicting that he's going to go that high. And 350 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:22.960 you've also been saying that he shouldn't go that high. 351 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.000 Yes, he should not go number one over, he shouldn't 352 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.319 go top five, he shouldn't go to Cleveland. 353 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.720 You've been saying he shouldn't go in the top fifteen. 354 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.359 You've been saying, like first round, you've been saying like 355 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.119 he's a fringe first round, like you probably shouldn't know. 356 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.839 He's definitely a fresh He's definitely a first rounder. After 357 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.119 the Senior Bowl. He's definitely a first rounder because they 358 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.960 need like there's too many teams that need quarterbacks. But 359 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.039 you're saying he shouldn't be. 360 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:49.519 Oh, I don't see it. 361 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:52.359 He has town on ability, but Lane Kevin has never 362 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:57.799 had a quarterback making in the league he coached. 363 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.480 But yeah, so anyways, back to my point what I'm 364 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.640 saying is, you know, a hat your dirty run out 365 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:05.039 there has the work out of his life. He would 366 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:09.359 have easily secured the number one pick spot. So I 367 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.640 think for me, like, I don't think that should take 368 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:16.240 anything away from him, his tape, his body of work, 369 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.119 as you mentioned, all the things he's been able to 370 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.000 do in spite of all the distractions, all the transfers, 371 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:28.039 all the injuries, all that stuff. And also like I 372 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:31.279 feel like he just left a gooden opportunity to be 373 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:33.519 the number one pick up there. But that also might 374 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.279 have been strategic because, like he's been saying all year, 375 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.319 like he wants to go where he wants to go. 376 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:44.599 Whether or not that's be number one, I mean depends 377 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:45.759 who trades up there. 378 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:50.599 But Joe Burrow had nine in chance and he proved 379 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:55.000 how stupid during a QB's. 380 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:55.039 Hands is. 381 00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:57.519 So. 382 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.519 I mean, Jared Goff has in the playoffs more times 383 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:06.119 than not, and he has small hands, ridiculously small hands 384 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:07.119 for six or five rames. 385 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.000 Yeah, it's kind of crazy, but I mean, you know, 386 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:18.720 people just gotta realize that these quarterbacks are different from 387 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:24.119 the quarterbacks of old, and that I mean it's a 388 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:24.960 preference for him. 389 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.200 I mean I would say, like even if you took 390 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:32.880 like the the midst of the mad prospects that you 391 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.240 could think of in the last ten years, I mean, 392 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.880 Shred was right there in the middle, right, Like, I mean, 393 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.799 he's I would say, he's got more upside than like 394 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:50.160 Gino did coming out. He probably has has a better 395 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:53.480 resume than you know, Teddy be coming out, Like. 396 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.680 He has a better resume. He probably a lot of 397 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:01.960 quarterbacks actually, So yeah, under that Jackson state, he set 398 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:07.279 records on Colorado two schools that hadn't had success, and like, but. 399 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.839 That's what I'm saying, Like, if you plotted all the 400 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:14.160 first round qbs over the last ten years. I think 401 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.599