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Speaker 1: All right, let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 1: We got d Shawn Walker on the line.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Sean ben ben Ron. That's always good to

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join you guys. I don't know if I can give

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always feel privileged to be able to come on here

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and give them my hashtag outsider take.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 2: I love all the insider knowledge you provide us here

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at Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with this.

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Speaker 2: If what percentage of healthy is this BYU football team

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heading into Texas tack, I've put it at like ninety

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five percent healthy. I think they're right there, ninety five

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percent healthy from where they essentially started out on the season,

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which I think bodes well for Brigham heading to Lubbock

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with game day on the docket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think any college football team through nine

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ten weeks of the regular season is going to be

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one hundred percent healthy, And I don't think do I

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use an exception to that role. That's not a bad thing.

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I mean, that's just the nature of the sport, right.

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I don't really know like full on percentage wise, but

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like if we're talking about like like I feel like

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this team is probably three fourths as healthy as optimal

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or as as it could be. Like if one hundred

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percent really is the matter the fact of the matter,

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with you know, the bumps, the bruises, the knicks, kind

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of some minor injuries, fighting through stuff. I think there's

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a lot of that going around. They're getting healthier, which

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I think is a good thing. We heard from offensive

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coordinator Aaron Roder yesterday say that Jojo Phillips is on

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track to make his return on Texas Tech, which I

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think is a big pickup in that wide receiver room.

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questions about. LJ. Martin doesn't seem to be one of them.

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I can't imagine he's fully healthy just after his usage.

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these guys, you're going to see them with some sort

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of an element, but they're you know, they're all at

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least seventy seventy five percent, which is really all you

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can ask for. On this season through again, through eight nine,

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ten weeks of the usual college football play, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Sean storylines heading into this Texas Tech matchup. In your opinion,

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Speaker 3: I mean the number one thing is is this is

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BA football program history. They've never gone into a game

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where both teams are ranked in the top ten. It

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just haven't had It just hasn't happened. A Rod again,

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was really surprised by that because by US have a

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lot of really good teams in the history of their program,

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competing in the Whack or the Mountain West and the

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opponent wasn't necessarily all the way up there. So this

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is it's the lowest combined ranking of both teams, and

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one of the lowest in program history. I think that

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Miami game from the nineties kind of comes to mind

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as like being close, but that was still I mean

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that was a number one team and then a twenty

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five ish team right in there. So when you're talking

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about seven eight or eight nine, depending on which pole

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and everything say this is the biggest game in the

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Cougar's history, and so you got to wonder to do

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the Cougar's rise to the occasion of that, or does

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Texas Tech maybe rise to the occasion of a program

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building or at the very least a season building win

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over a very good YU team at home with their

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first ESPN College Game Day appearance in seventeen years. I mean,

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point to why this game is big. Oh and in addition,

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by the way we saw last night from the CFP

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will determine significant aspects of the college Football Playoff, whether

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you're talking about overorld selection, whether you're talking about potential

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host games in that first round. Like, I think this

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game has conference title implications though that's obvious. It has

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CFP applications, and it has just overall program implications for

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about BYU and Texas Tech. I don't feel hyperbolic saying

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this this is the biggest game in BA football history.

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Speaker 2: That's a hot take. It's a fiery take. I was

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having that discussion with a few people yesterday in preparation

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for the the the weekend Slate of games. And I'm like,

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man like, looking back at the past by us had

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some big time games, right and and and look, the

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next one is always the most important.

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Speaker 1: That that's that's just the nature of the business.

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Speaker 2: Will we herald this as one of the biggest games

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in BA football history afterwards?

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Speaker 1: Is the question?

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Speaker 2: After this season, because I guess you could have made,

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and how big of a game it was to play

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Utah in the same conference. And but you know, right now,

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with everything on the line, it feels or a lot

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a lot of it on the line, your maybe your

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your path to the Big twelve championship and a birth

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in the college football playoff in the modern era.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely the biggest game in the modern era.

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Speaker 3: And I think and I think that's actually a really

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big piece of why this game is so big, because

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it doesn't have that traditional rivalry type element to kind

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of drum up how big this game is. Right Like

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b YU and Texas Tech, there's not really like a

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there are connections between both schools. You know, they're both

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related programs of the late great Mike Leach May forever

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rest in peace, right and maybe we call this the

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Mike Leach Bowl or the Mike Leach Classic Ethic or tieable.

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So I think there are connections with this program and

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this is with these two programs, and there's something that

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could maybe grow. But I want to call this a

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rivalry by any means BYU and Texas Tech. I just

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I just don't think it's there. Maybe it eventually gets there,

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but it's not right now. I think it's got a

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long way to go to become that. But I think

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that makes this game even bigger because you don't have

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that initial rivalry element, you don't have that initial hatred

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between two fan bases. You you know, you've got a

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healthy amount of his back between Colina Sattacki and his

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staff and Jilly Maguire and what he's building in the

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West Texas oil fields. Like that's that's obvious and that's there,

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I think. But there's nothing like the like super Seeded

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this up. And yet that being said, there are still

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all these implications for this season, for the conference, for

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the CFP, for both programs that I think make this

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game absolutely massive, regardless of where you would rank it

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on a one two three type list.

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Speaker 2: Sean WALKERKSHL dot com Here on EOSB and the fan,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's solid CFP right now, right.

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College basketball season also started. Just got back from Las

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their win over over Villanova to open the season. And guys,

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two Big twelve schools in YU and Arizona. I mean,

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it was an absolute showcase. And that's even football tipped

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off for either one of those games, obviously, Arizona beating

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the raining champs in Florida and then YUS went over

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so we won't. We don't necessarily need to go too

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far into it, but this basketball season has the potential

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to really be something special. I've been calling it the

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most anticipated basketball season and BYU history, and everything I

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saw this weekend and leading up to Monday night, even

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up to the game, really kind of confirms my suspicions.

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Like the amount of just weight and anticipation for what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the basketball team, ohcase extremely well. I think throughout

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of urgency, maybe there was a little bit of a

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cruise control element there, But when it counted at the

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end of the game, they pulled away. Uh and UH

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really were aggressive defensively have you seen?

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like when when they had to win possessions, when they

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maybe the most impressive thing of the night. Including Kebecata, right,

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Speaker 1: He was just the.

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Speaker 2: Best thing I watched all freaking night. He was dominant.

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He was amazing. He was if Blake Griffin and and uh,

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who was it? Who was I talking about here with

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Ben Wallace? Like Griffin and Ben Wallace at a baby,

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that's what That's what you'd get is Cava Kata.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a little bit of he's got a

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little bit of Kim and Matombo and him. And I'm

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seven rebounds, three blocks. Uh, I mean it's and then

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describing what Kvakata was able to do. Ajda Bonsa was

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definitely impressed. He said he's never played with somebody quite

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like Kiva Ketta for all of the for for all

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the show. I struggle to remember a time. I don't

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know if it's ever happened or a BAU basketball team

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has had the length and the athleticism at one time

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this YU team has, and it translates defensively, and I

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think Kiva Kada is absolutely absolutely the start. He's got

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this pit bull mentality that I think you really need

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with these thoroughbreds the BYU has been bringing in through

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recruiting and the transfer portal and everything else. He might

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be just as important to the state of this team

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as you know, the former number one overhall recruit in

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the country. Uh, future NBA draft lottery pick, and someone

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like the Bonsa or arguably the best point guard in

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the Big twelve or maybe even national, one of the

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best nationally and Robert at the third Like I've been

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given a lot of praise with those guys. Will and

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by the way, last Yer's leading score of Richie Saunders

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in there, uh Keba Keada made a statement like he

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is going to be a factor and he is going

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to matter this BYU basketball season. Sean, can I turn

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the tables on you and maybe pivoted back to football

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a little bit because I asked this question of partner

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kingson yesterday. I want to get your take on it. Then,

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let's go, uh what what Uh? If you're pulling kba

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Keda over to the football field, what position are you

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putting him in? Because I think the obvious answer partner

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here this one is probably tight end. But I feel

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like you might want him on the defensive side.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's a d end. I mean he can catch.

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I mean, I mean he can high point. You know,

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he's okay. But I wouldn't say he's I wouldn't say

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he's a refined catcher of the pig skin or for

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that matter, the basketball like I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's good at lobs.

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Speaker 2: He can he can elevate there, He's good at lobbs,

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so you can you can maybe hide right. Yeah, you

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could have him as a field goal blocker, just pat

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and field goal blocker, just elevate and just try to

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swat the crap out of the football is it's it's

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being kicked through the uprights.

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Speaker 1: So those would be the three things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would say you probably want to put

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him up, get him up to like two sixty and.

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Speaker 1: Put him at a defensive end.

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Speaker 2: Or you can just have him as a red zone

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prett uh and uh at tight end.

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Speaker 1: Similar way, It's what I've been saying.

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Speaker 2: This for over two decades now, Like you should have

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a specialist like Caleb B.

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Speaker 1: Looner.

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Speaker 2: Look at what you did last year with Caleb loner

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look at what they did, Like he that's exactly who

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he was. A field goal blocker, he was a red

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zone threat, jump ball specialist.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do, and that's the that's that's what

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you do.

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Speaker 2: If you have a basketball player period, Like you can't

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put him on the defensive side of the ball, really

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you you really can't. If it was like a Zigians

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situation where we had him for four years, yeah, put

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him at d end. But otherwise you have a one

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year opportunity. It's all specialists.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean a lot of guys have made

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long standing NFL careers after being out of being just

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special team specialist. I'm thinking of guys like former Southern

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Utah standout Miles Killerber, who is still in the league

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a decade later as an a whole pro special teams guy.

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So I actually I like that shot. I really like

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that shot.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Indeed, Sean Is, we look at at BYU athletics

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as a whole, very healthy right now. Obviously football and

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basketball in the top ten in their respective rankings and polls.

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Speaker 1: But women soccer just got.

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Speaker 2: A big win. I know you're a big fan. We

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had Elie Wahlbroch on the show yesterday. It was a

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fantastic interview. Is is this the healthiest that BYU's athletic

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department has been not only monetarily but also collectively as

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a sporting entity. Is you know, a competitive sporting entity

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within a conference?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's up there. The buy

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in right now in BYU athletics from multiple angles, I

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think is really driving a potential golden age in BYU.

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And it's not just football, it's not just basketball. Those

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are obviously the temple sports. They're important, and then they're

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setting out to kind of what they are. But but

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you're seeing what Jen Rockwood continues to do with one

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the soccer program. You're seeing what both Homestead's the om

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Sty both their Andrew brother Seawan are doing with the

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men's and the women's volley or the womenes and the

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men's volleyball teams respectively. You obviously at Eyestone and the

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goat del j Taylor with cross country. Women's cross country

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just one of their third straight big twelve Championship, Like

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there is a men's buy in right now in YU athletics,

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and it starts really up at the very top. Like

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I give a ton of credit to university President Shane Reese.

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I think he's all in on by athletics and what

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they can be, what they can provide for the university,

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and then also keep working the academic vice president who's

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in charge, who's kind of over athletics and advancement and

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that sort of thing. Like there is an all in

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nature to those two in particular, and a lot of

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university leadership that I think is something special. It's something

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that I don't know if Yu's ever really had, but

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it's something that they need if they you know, they

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they figured out a way to get a see at

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the quote unquote big boy table or close to it

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at least in the big club, and now they're trying

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to just take advantage by by knowing like, Okay, you know.

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The mindset I think is we're here, we're there now,

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what can we do to stay there and to potentially

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dominate on that level? And I think he's really taken

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all of that to heart from the top down.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Sean Walker ladies and gentlemen, Sean. Great segment is always

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can't wait to see what BYU football can do versus

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Tech on the road.

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Speaker 1: You get a score prediction. How does this game play out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Tech is. I think they are aund

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nine and a half point favorite. The last night check

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that number might have gone a little bit up or

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a little bit down. And I tell you what, man,

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that feels like a lot You know, I love spreads,

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but that feels like a lot of points. I don't

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know why he goes and I love it. Compulse out

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the win, but I think this is a game that

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should be decided in the final moment, single possession type

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of game like this is this is going to be

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It's a battle again. It's battle between the number seven

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and number eight, or number eight and or nineteen in

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the country, depending on which pool you prefer. And I

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think it's going to play out that way as a

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battle of two top ten teams that are just wayser

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thin than neck and neck in both the conference standings

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and nationally as well.

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Speaker 2: Love the breakdown, Sean, We appreciate you. We invite everyone

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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