WEBVTT 1 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.520 Welcome back to Raised by Giants Live special broadcast. Good 2 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:44.840 to see everyone. Welcome everyone in the chat and any 3 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.359 moderators and channel members out there, and to anyone that's 4 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.240 listening to the replay, thanks for joining us. If you're 5 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.719 listening on YouTube or x follow the show on the 6 00:00:54.880 --> 00:01:00.679 audio only podcast on Spotify, Apple podcast, and Google podcast. 7 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:05.920 And we are back. We're back, baby, with new developments 8 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:11.040 in the Virginia Giuffrey case. We can't let this thing go, guys. 9 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:19.200 An investigation needs to be done asap. Absolutely, Virginia Giuffrey 10 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.680 did not kill herself. If you're not caught up with 11 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.959 all the episodes have done so far, that's okay because 12 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:34.120 Virginia Giuphray's father, Sky Roberts said on Pierce Morgan that 13 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:40.680 he doesn't believe that Virginia committed suicide, that someone got 14 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.920 to her, which I've been saying this entire time. Here's 15 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:46.560 him talking about this right now. 16 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:53.640 Still crying. I can't believe it, this is happening. It's 17 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:55.920 just it's impossible. And then for them to say that 18 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.319 she committed suicide, there's no way that she did. 19 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:03.159 Somebody got to her, and that. 20 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.560 Is what we have been saying. For the past over 21 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:11.400 a week now since this happened and through my investigation, 22 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.240 and what everyone kind of agrees with in the chat 23 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.919 is that her husband, in some way, shape or form, 24 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.400 is involved. And we're going to listen to the entire interview. 25 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:29.039 That was just a clip from the Purest Morgan Show 26 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.960 here soon. A lot of revelations in there and offuscation 27 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:40.080 in there as well by Prince Andrew's ex girlfriend. She's 28 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.360 on there. She's trying to say that the photo of 29 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.800 Virginia and Prince Andrew with Jesselene Maxwell that is the 30 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.319 well known photo isn't real. We're gonna get into all that, 31 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.520 but welcome everyone. Good to see everyone in the chat. 32 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.639 How's it going, Sam, Good to see you, Katie, kat 33 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.199 what's going on? Great analysis? Roder, thank you very much, 34 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.280 really appreciated. Rob Oz, what's happening? Brother, Good to see you. 35 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:10.120 Thanks for being here. Chloe, thanks so much for being 36 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.240 a channel member and helping support the show. I am 37 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:17.319 going to be getting out a channel member's only episode 38 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.520 here soon. I've just been super busy. Had donut on yesterday, 39 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.719 I did this Virginia Giuprey case all last week and 40 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.479 doing the short videos uploading, and then I got Jerry 41 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:35.039 Marzinski on tomorrow. So it's been a lot going on here. 42 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.800 But I'm going to be getting a channel member's video 43 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.319 out here really soon, so stay tuned for that. All 44 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.080 of the Channel members and Chloe, thank you for your support. 45 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:50.759 Really appreciate it. So on the last episode, we discovered 46 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:59.039 that several victims of Jeffrey Epstein had claimed to the 47 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.879 same thing had as happened to them as happened to 48 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:12.240 Virginia Gifframe. They all supposedly committed suicide as well. Jeffrey Epstein, 49 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:16.360 a survivor who testified against Giselene Maxwell, dies in Florida. 50 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.079 Caroline Andreano, thirty six, was found dead in a hotel 51 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.800 room in West Palm Beach, Florida, on May twenty three. 52 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:28.160 According to West Palm Beach Police Departments books person, her 53 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:33.720 death wasn't republic until this week. Okay, so, but she 54 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.759 wasn't the only one. There are three all together. Lea 55 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:44.160 Sky Patrick, aged twenty nine, found dead of a drug 56 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.920 overdose in West pom Beach, Florida in twenty seventeen. The 57 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.800 authorities said that Patrick was found inside of a hotel 58 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.199 room in West Palm Beach, Florida, adding that the overdose 59 00:04:54.439 --> 00:05:01.079 was accidental, and so trying to set this up as 60 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.600 like an accidental overdose. And then you have Caroline Andreano, 61 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.360 testified against Justlene Maxwell during her sex trafficking trial, died 62 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:15.600 May twenty third, twenty twenty three, after an accidental drug overdose. 63 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.639 So according to Palm Beach posts, Andreano died as a 64 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:23.240 result of an overdose of fentanyl methadonia alprosilam in the 65 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.399 West Palm Beach, Florida hotel room. So both of these 66 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:32.360 girls both died of the exact same thing, supposedly accidental overdose, 67 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.000 and that's what they're trying to say happened to Virginia 68 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.519 Giffrey as well. Virginia Giffray's lawyer casts doubt on her suicide. 69 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:45.160 We've got big question marks all over it. From the 70 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.240 New York Post there. Then in the Sun article, it 71 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:52.120 is understood that Virginia overdosed on pills, but big questions 72 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:56.639 your mean, whether her overdose was intentional. And here's a 73 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:02.720 picture of her lawyer right here, Carrie Lunden. She basically 74 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.560 says that it's she believes that it's an accidental overdose, 75 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:14.720 just like the two previous victims before Virginia Geffray that 76 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.399 just happened to die by accidental suicide. One can be 77 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.959 a coincidence, even two can be a coincidence. But three, 78 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:31.480 three is really pushing it. Three is pushing it on 79 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:35.480 if it's a coincidence or not. And I believe that 80 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.720 they have done this to several other prominent people. They 81 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:44.560 have od'd them and made it look like that they 82 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.759 just killed themselves. I believe that Prince that also happened 83 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:55.319 to Prince Prince was found in his mansion on the elevator. 84 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.399 The pills weren't in a prescription bottle. They were in 85 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.639 a bear tile and all bottle. Also, it's very easy 86 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:04.879 for someone just to just switch out the pills that 87 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:09.600 they were taking. And maybe she got some pills, you know, 88 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.759 from the hospital. I don't know what it's like in Australia, 89 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.399 and they could have switched him out on her and 90 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.279 then she thinks that she's taking one thing, and then 91 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:24.800 she's taking a high dose of fentanyl. I mean, if 92 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.879 you think that you're taking you know, thailanol or a 93 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:32.720 bear aspirin or you know some kind of allergy medication, 94 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:42.759 like what is that one called not benzo hydroxyzine hydroxyzine, 95 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:47.040 which is like just like a glorified ivy profen, which 96 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:52.120 is used for like minor injuries and minor pain. The 97 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:57.120 hydroxyzine can just be switched out with something way stronger, 98 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.959 and then the person thinks that they're just taking you know, 99 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:06.120 a glorified ibuprofian when they really dosed themselves with three 100 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:12.680 freaking strong ass fentanyl pills. Then they die. So I 101 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:17.920 have one believe that that is that has been done before, 102 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.560 and it's just a coincidence, right, Just a coincidence here 103 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:27.279 that three other Jeffrey Epstein accusers and Julene Maxwell accusers 104 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:33.720 have all died of accidental drug overdoses. Okay, it's just 105 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.519 kind of I don't believe that that's a coincidence. And 106 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.600 then they're trying to make it out to where, you know, 107 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:45.559 Virginia Giffrey, it's her lawyer is saying that it's accidental 108 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:47.879 as well. He doesn't know if it's accidental or she 109 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.679 did it on purpose, which just lines up with the 110 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:55.679 two that happened previous to Virginia Giffray. But then we 111 00:08:55.759 --> 00:09:01.879 also have Virginia Giffray's father doubting that she died by 112 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:06.039 suicide in this e article. Then we have the TMZ 113 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:12.519 article where Virginia Geffray's dad wants her suicide investigated. Watch 114 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:21.320 should be her husband is a woman abuser, narcissistic, domestic 115 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:27.679 violence asshole. In this People magazine article, she says this 116 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:31.080 was a week less than a week after she got 117 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:36.320 out of the hospital for her her supposedly being involved 118 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.600 in this bus accident that she ended up six days 119 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:42.840 later where she's talking about it, she has another episode, 120 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.960 another encounter with her husband like this, then she may 121 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:51.600 not make it out alive. It's a that's circumstantial of 122 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:59.600 evidence enough to warrant an investigation onto Robert Giffrey. So 123 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:03.080 you have Robert Giffrey, you have Sky Roberts. You also 124 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.720 have this other girl Sky that was that diet of 125 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:12.960 the accidental drug overdose. So many names are overlapping names. 126 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:24.120 It's really strange. Leah Sky Patrick, so Sky Roberts, Roberts Giffrey. 127 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:32.519 Virginia Geffray's brother is also named Sky Roberts. So her 128 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:36.720 dad and her brother have the exact same names. It's 129 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:43.399 very strange and very convoluted. But don't be don't be 130 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.320 intimidated by this being the sixth shell okay on the 131 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:51.159 topic that I've done. It is a very convoluted case, 132 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:55.279 many moving parts, but I am confident that we can 133 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.600 navigate all this stuff together. And if we're working together 134 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.559 and helping you each other out, then there's no reason 135 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.360 that we can't come to a solid conclusion here. So 136 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:13.279 this Puerrece Morgan interview that happened two days ago. We 137 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:17.240 just saw this clip of Sky Roberts, Virginia Roberts' dad 138 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:21.200 saying that he believes that someone got to her, that 139 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.960 she didn't die from suicide. This is a very long 140 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:29.000 video and we're going to listen to it here with 141 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:32.519 Pierce Morgan, and I'm going to give my comments on it, 142 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:36.600 and I'm going to switch to the fair use banner. 143 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.399 This is a fair use because I believe that this 144 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:42.840 video that we're getting ready to show is monetized, and 145 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:46.200 I don't know what kind of copyright that they may 146 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.120 have on it, but this is covered under fair use 147 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.279 because section one oh two of the Sorry Section one 148 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.799 oh seven of the Copyright Act of in nineteen seventy six, 149 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.480 allowance is made for fair use for purposes such asticism, 150 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:05.200 common news reporting, teaching, scholarship and education and research, and 151 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.960 that is what we're doing here. We are educating the 152 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:13.600 public on this interview from Piers Morgan where Virginia Robert's 153 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.399 father is questioning the details of her suicide, among other 154 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.799 people that are involved in this interview. And this is 155 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:26.600 one hundred percent covered under fair use, so let's get 156 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:27.080 into it. 157 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:32.600 Suicide has understanding been made global headlines a week on Monday, 158 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:35.600 I am to be exclusively Helloyer David Boyse who said 159 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.720 it's time for Prince Andrew to come clean and to apologize. 160 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:41.480 Even if he doesn't remember. 161 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:49.000 Wait, did you just say that this is Virginia Gephra's lawyer. 162 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:51.960 I thought her lawyer was. 163 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:55.080 This woman here? 164 00:12:57.639 --> 00:12:58.200 Hold on. 165 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.039 Sure, screen, let's get back to. 166 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.279 He just said that dude is her lawyer. But Carrie 167 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.679 Lunden here is supposedly her lawyer. 168 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:15.879 I don't know. 169 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.480 Maybe she's got multiple lawyers. Maybe she's got different lawyers 170 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:26.440 for different things. Maybe lawyers are handling different cases, the 171 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:32.399 domestic violence abuse case and the separation case, and then 172 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.519 people can have multiple lawyers. I don't know what happened. 173 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.919 I think he needs to recognize that he had. He 174 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:50.440 clearly had sex with young girls with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, 175 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.240 he may not remember that it was Virginia, but he 176 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.559 can't forget the event. 177 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:04.440 And Okay, So Katie kat is saying that Boyce was 178 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.399 her original lawyer in the Epstein case. Okay, that makes 179 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:13.200 sense absolutely, Thank you, thank you for clarifying that. So 180 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.159 this guy was Virginia Giffray's original lawyer in the Epstein case, 181 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:25.200 and her lawyer now is Carrie Lunden that's taking on 182 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.480 her case in Australia. I'm guessing against her husband for 183 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:34.559 her husband filing that family restraining order against her after 184 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.279 he beat her to an inch of her life, and 185 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.519 then she went to the police, went to the hospital, 186 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:44.000 filed a police report, and then her husband turned around 187 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.960 and gasped at her and started building his defense immediately. 188 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.000 And then that's what got the kids taken away from 189 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.679 Virginia Geffray. Was that family restraining order that he filed 190 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:56.960 against her after. 191 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:57.360 He beat her. 192 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.679 David Boyce, Yeah, answer, hardwork, Thank you appreciate it. 193 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:05.799 He needs, I think, to just. 194 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:08.919 Come clean. 195 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:10.159 Well. 196 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.919 The Duke's silence has been rounding criticized in the British press. 197 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.720 For many saying that Virginia's sad demise is the final 198 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.840 note on the coffin to his delusional dreams of returning 199 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.960 to public life. Whence Andrew of course paid many millions 200 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.960 of dollars to settle accusations that he sexually assaulted you 201 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.240 Forray three times when she was seventeen years old after 202 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.559 being trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. 203 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:36.279 And that report is roughly supposedly around twelve million dollars 204 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.559 that she probably has not been paid out yet. She 205 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:45.399 probably got a little bit of that money, but obviously 206 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:46.799 she's not going to see any of it now, so 207 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:52.639 then it's going to either revert to her husband, Robert Giuffrey, 208 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.919 or quite possibly Prince Andrew could just retain it. I'm 209 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.919 not one hundred percent sure exactly how that works if 210 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.720 you were to owe someone a lot of money uppers 211 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.480 of twelve million dollars, how that works if they die. 212 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:12.080 But if it turns out that he doesn't have to 213 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.480 even pay her family out the rest of the money 214 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:19.559 that he owes her, then awful suspicious there, Prince Andrew. 215 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.240 And why haven't you made a statement there, Bud? Why 216 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.039 do you have your ex wife out here or your 217 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.159 ex girlfriend doing all this stuff. 218 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:31.360 Well, despite the payout, he's always emphatically denied it. There 219 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.720 are many unanswered questions about Epstein, the source of his wealth, 220 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.039 the circumstances of his death, the reasons why seventy powerful 221 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.559 people kept his sinister secrets and have not been made 222 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.600 accountable for any association with him. Perhaps inevitably, many people 223 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.879 aren't satisfied with the explanation of Virginia's death either. A 224 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.360 lawyer in Australia said this week that there are big 225 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.000 question marks or one of my guests tonight has always 226 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.279 maintained and made much criticism, but there are big question 227 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.879 marks over Virginia Giuphrase's story. She says she now has 228 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.159 new evidence that will support her case. 229 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.960 This is the most ridiculous thing that I think I've 230 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.880 ever heard that we're getting ready to listen to right now. 231 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.680 This is so ridiculous, we'll joining me. 232 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:16.400 That's Prince Andrew's former girlfriend, Lady Victoria Hervey, Royal biographer 233 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:18.880 Tom Bauer, host of The Nerve with Mare In Kallen 234 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.960 more In Kallen and also be speaking to lawyer Spencer Coovin, 235 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.680 who represented nine of Jeffrey Epstein's victims. Okay, we welcome 236 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.440 to all of you. Let's start with you. 237 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.799 First off, why is an ex girlfriend of Prince Andrew 238 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.480 out here Franklin center stage, and why is she defending 239 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:43.880 him so hard? This makes absolutely no sense. Well, let's 240 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.319 continue to listen to this ridiculousness nonsense that she's about 241 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:48.440 to spew out of her mouth. 242 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.519 Victoria, you've been resolutely pro Prince Andrew for a long 243 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.279 time in this scandal. 244 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.759 Even I have, because you know, so it's been about 245 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.400 three and a half years. I actually really started like 246 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.839 really investigating, I suppose, and the things that I've found 247 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.480 out obviously, like a lot of people that reached out 248 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:14.079 to me from very close circles to Virginia and some 249 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:16.960 of the other girls. They were giving me information because 250 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.079 they saw me as someone that could actually bring the 251 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:23.599 information out. The things that I want to concentrate, well, 252 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.000 firstly that you know, it's a horrible end what happened 253 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:27.640 to Virginia. 254 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.599 Thought, well, let me pick you up on that before 255 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:30.839 we get into the other stuff. 256 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.359 You know, oh, it's a horrible thing that happened to Virginia. 257 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:39.960 But weren't you seeing that this was all karma? You 258 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.359 were just saying that. And I hope Piers Morgan calls 259 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:44.160 her out on this. I really hope that he does, 260 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.720 and I think he's going to here. But she made 261 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:55.599 these Instagram story post after Virginia Geuphra's death, and she 262 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:59.799 actually made one after her car accident where she ended 263 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:04.319 up in the hospital badly beat up. She said, oh 264 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.079 you know, she essentially said, this is karma. This is 265 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.880 what you get Virginia Geffrey for making up allegations against 266 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:16.640 Prince Andrew, and then after her death, she also made 267 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.559 another one that said Prince Andrew's former girlfriend, Lady Veronica 268 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.519 Harvey sparked fury by reacting to Virginia Giffray's suicide on 269 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:29.319 Friday by posting, when lies catch up with you, there's 270 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:33.039 no way out. What is what kind of statement is that? 271 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:39.160 It's the most ridiculous thing. And I hope that Pierce 272 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.799 Morgan calls her out on this, and I think he's 273 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:42.559 going to I was shocked. 274 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:48.400 I mean, you did two posts about Virginia Giuphrey. 275 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:50.640 One before here it is here it is or she. 276 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.519 Died after she had this supposed accident. She's still very 277 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:55.960 murky about Oh. 278 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.799 You mean, I did a lot of stories. 279 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.640 On the main post, you posted image of her smiling 280 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:05.039 with the caption what is karma after a phrase she 281 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.839 had her selfie lying on a hospital bed following what 282 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.720 she said was this horror. Okay, but you said what 283 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:14.119 is karma? And then when you posted that. Okay, but 284 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.400 when news of her death broke, you tweeted this. We 285 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.880 posted on the next lies catch up with you. There's 286 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.400 no way out now putting a side. Whether you want 287 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:25.640 to believe Virginia, do you fray or not? You deleted 288 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:26.039 this one? 289 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.759 No, I didn't delete it. People said deleted it. I 290 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:29.519 did not delete it. 291 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:30.200 You've left that up? 292 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:37.880 Yeah, right, that's even worse. She left it up. Oh 293 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:38.920 my god, this is sorry. 294 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.400 It was on story so it only lasted twenty four 295 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:43.480 I understand that. Okay, I did not delete it. 296 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:47.279 Why post that at all? Putting aside it? 297 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.799 Yeah, why post that at all? Give us a good 298 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:53.039 explanation here, please, it's take her life. 299 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:56.640 It was an instant reaction. I was actually when the 300 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.160 news broke. Ironically, I was actually at the Daily Our 301 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.720 party in Washington at the British Ambassador's residence, and my 302 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.279 friend I was with got the alert on her phone. 303 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:10.880 She goes, oh my god, Oh my god. She gives 304 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.200 me the phone. This was we were really in shock actually, 305 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:19.119 to be honest in the beginning, because the build up 306 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.720 really I suppose, like what had happened over the last month, 307 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.640 like I don't really understand why her family didn't, you know, 308 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:30.359 to be alone on a ranch in the middle of nowhere. 309 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.480 She you don't know why she took You don't know 310 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:35.359 why she took her. 311 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.880 Life there it is she's saying, oh, she should be 312 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:40.839 in a psychiatric word. And a lot of this is 313 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:45.200 coming from the bus accident, which we've investigated the bus 314 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:50.559 accident to death in previous episodes to the series that 315 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:55.079 I'm doing, and the bus accident makes zero sense and 316 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:59.160 there's too many inconsistencies with what the police were seeing 317 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.319 happen in the bus accident to what reportedly what Virginia 318 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:03.799 was saying. 319 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.000 And we have. 320 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:10.079 Deduced that because of this People magazine article where she 321 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:15.559 basically says that her injuries weren't from the bus accident, 322 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:22.720 that her injuries were actually from her husband beating her. Okay, 323 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.359 the injuries didn't come from the bus accident. Injuries came 324 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:30.200 from her husband beating her. As controversy swirls about the 325 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:35.079 cryptic Instagram message Jeffrey Epstein. Virginia Giffrey recently posted about 326 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.559 her deteriorating health following a car crash in Australia. She 327 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.279 is now coming forward with allegations of abuse against her 328 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.799 husband of twenty two years, Robert Giffrey. Virginia forty one, 329 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.599 previously spoke out as a victim of convicted sex offender 330 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:54.359 Jeffrey Epstein. In an exclusive statement to People, Virginia said, 331 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.880 I was unable to fight back. Well, sorry, I was 332 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:02.039 able to fight back against j Justlyn Maxwell and Jeffrey 333 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.319 Epstein who abused and trafficked me, but I was unable 334 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.920 to escape the domestic violence in my marriage until recently, 335 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:13.920 after my husband's latest physical assault, I can no longer 336 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.240 stay silent. So she is telling you right there in 337 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:24.240 that statement that the bus accident, her injuries from reportedly 338 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:28.119 in the bus accident, did not come from the bus accident. 339 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.519 The injuries that she was seeing came from the bus 340 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:37.200 accident actually came from her husband beating her. So that's 341 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.240 where all the confusion with the bus accident, and that's 342 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:44.400 where she's going with this is all the inconsistencies with 343 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:48.000 the bus accident and her essentially making things up. Right, 344 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.400 she's making things up and exaggerating the story because what 345 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.960 she's saying to the hospital and to the doctors and 346 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.720 to the nurses isn't true. Because she can't say that 347 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.599 it was her husband that beat her. She has to 348 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.960 blame it on the bus accident, which happened six days earlier, 349 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:10.799 because no one's going to believe her. But she's coming 350 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:16.000 out in this People magazine article and telling the truth. Okay, 351 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:16.759 so it continuing. 352 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.200 I know you admit that, I admit that I'm not 353 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.000 a psychic, but I know things were capturing. 354 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:23.920 Do not think what you tweeted was just on a 355 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.640 human level after the heartless. 356 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:29.359 Things were catching up to her. What do you mean 357 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.519 things were catching up to her? You mean like Prince 358 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.480 Andrew was catching up to her, Like her husband was 359 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:37.359 catching up to her. 360 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.000 You know, it wasn't right. 361 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:43.119 I feel very bad for her children, and I think 362 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.240 suicide is something that is It is a very sad thing. 363 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:52.160 But in dying and in committing suicide, that does not 364 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.880 give you an out to lie. 365 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.119 Oh my god, this is so ridiculous. Us her logic 366 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:08.000 here is m very narcissistic and toxic. 367 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.240 But that's a totally different matter, you know. I just 368 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:15.480 feel like you knew. She's got three kids. They just 369 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.880 lost their mother, right, It's an appalling tragedy, just on 370 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.559 a human level. 371 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.559 That was a quick reaction. 372 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.200 Maybe you could have deleted it, you didn't. 373 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.160 I didn't because I feel very strongly about this story. 374 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:32.680 Right, Mmm, my god, what a toxic freaking woman. Oh 375 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:33.160 my god. 376 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.680 Not you think that was heartless? 377 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.359 What has she done to other people? 378 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.079 To your reaction, what do you mean? What has she 379 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:46.480 done to other people? What has other people done to her? 380 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.240 And why is she defending Prince She's an ex girlfriend. 381 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.640 Why is she defending Prince Andrew like this? It makes 382 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:02.200 no sense unless she's paid. Is she being paid to 383 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:06.759 do this? That's the only thing that makes sense. 384 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:10.920 But what she's done to anybody, I mean, she was 385 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:11.480 a victim. 386 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:16.599 She was trafficked by Epstein exactly, thank you, thank you. 387 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.160 And the word trafficking, trafficking is a very strong word. 388 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:21.759 That is not the appropriate word for this. 389 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:27.759 Well, she was used, abused, and utterly destroyed by men who. 390 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.279 Just no I agree. 391 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.920 Well, And the point is that she clearly couldn't survive 392 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:38.720 the horrors of what she lived through and whether her true. 393 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.119 And this guy is trying to obfuscate the entire thing too, 394 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:44.559 just like what her family was doing. As soon as 395 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.039 they found her unresponsive, they were like, oh, well, she couldn't. 396 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.200 She couldn't deal with what Epstein. 397 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.759 Did to her over. 398 00:26:55.359 --> 00:27:03.599 Twenty three years ago. She couldn't get over for that. Well, 399 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.400 I mean, do you think that it's possible that as 400 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.920 soon as she got out of this or deal with 401 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.079