1 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome everyone. I'm Martin. Willis your host, and 2 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,440 beside me is my producer Donna, who watched Disclosure Day 3 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,439 with me. Welcome Donna. Glad to have you here. Yes, 4 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,640 and so this is your warning here before we get started. 5 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Whether you're on audio or video, this is going to 6 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,840 be a spoiler alert show. So if you have not 7 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,159 seen Disclosure Day and you don't want to know anything 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,840 about the film, simply just skip this show. If you 9 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,679 watch it or not watched it and you just want 10 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:57,640 to hear what UFO podcasters have to say, then hang 11 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:02,039 around and listen in. I'm also joined by UFO Jack. Hey, Jack, 12 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:08,439 good to see you. I'm doing Kelly. Nice to have you, Sam. 13 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:10,760 And if I was going to try to pronounce your 14 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,359 last name, it's Milo Dragovic. Did I do it right? 15 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:14,280 Or close? 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: Martin? That is within spin ef ye. 17 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,599 Speaker 1: And by the way, look for both Kelly and Sam 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,319 as new co hosts along with Jack and myself or 19 00:01:25,359 --> 00:01:29,359 our UFO headlines. We have the first one together coming 20 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,359 up on Wednesday, but they're going to be Wednesdays instead 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,359 of Thursdays. The first Wednesday of every month, which lands 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 right on July first, and we're going to be talking 23 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:41,200 about the latest file dump, and people are in Chad 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,040 have been talking about the Chinese balloon, which I just 25 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:46,680 happened to be right underneath. We both were when it 26 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,680 was shot down in Myrtle Beach. What was that three 27 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:52,480 years ago? Now? It's hard to keep track of it all. 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,640 So the format of this is conversational, so keep that 29 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:00,280 in mind. Is going to be round robin and we're 30 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,120 these are just our opinions. Whatever we say here, just 31 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:08,080 keep that in mind. So don't forget to stop over 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,360 at our website PODCASTUFO dot com. There's some great blogs 33 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,400 over there, hundreds of them actually by Charles Lear and 34 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:19,319 I want to thank everyone that supports the show. Just 35 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,800 another thing I mentioned last night on last night's show, 36 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,319 for those of you who missed it. Before I get 37 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:28,159 into night's discussion, I'd like to share a quick clip 38 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:32,080 from my new playlist called Tesla Takes a Wheel. I've 39 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,159 actually wanted a Tesla since two thousand and eight, and 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,360 after all these years, I've finally got one. And I 41 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:39,240 got to tell you it's one of the most fascinating 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,360 pieces of technology I have ever owned. Sometimes it's brilliant. 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Sometimes it's puzzling and it definitely seems to have a 44 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 mind of its own. And I've talked with other Tesla owners, 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,439 and everyone that I've talked to they give their Tesla 46 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:56,199 a name. I think it's hilarious. So in this clip, 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,120 I decided to take the car off road and then 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,080 I pressed the button that said full self driving and 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,919 to see what would happen, and it almost ended badly. 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Here it is, well, okay, I see lots of mud. 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,280 We're not going water and mud swamp. Got myself into 52 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:24,479 a swamp. Now I'm wondering with this thing telling me 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,560 to stop. All right, I'm going to try to turn 54 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,360 around in here. That's all wheel drive and it's an SUV. 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,919 So I'm trying to convince myself why I did something 56 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:41,680 crazy like this. That's it. There's a whole bunch of 57 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:45,360 them on full self driving and the new software updates 58 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:48,039 all that. I'm trying to make it entertaining for everyone, 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,080 and I realized this type of content isn't for everyone, 60 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:53,280 and that's perfectly fine. So if you see one of 61 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:56,120 these videos pop up, it's only going to be on 62 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:59,199 the YouTube channel. It's not your thing. Feel free to 63 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:02,319 skip past. It, and for those of you are interested 64 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,400 in technology, AI and autonomous driving, I made a separate 65 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:09,719 playlist and you'll find that link down below. And thank 66 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:13,159 you all for listening. And let's get into it. So 67 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:17,199 everyone here in this room has seen Disclosure Day, and 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 I don't know who should start? Do you want to start? 69 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:25,519 Speaker 3: I'll stop because yay, why not? I wanted to love it. 70 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:30,920 I was anticipating It's Spielberg, It's Disclosure. 71 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,399 Speaker 1: And all the hype. 72 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: I was really anticipating something different. So I liked it. 73 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,360 I thought it was a good science fiction movie. I 74 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,079 think when I came out of the theater of my 75 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,519 reaction was I was dishettened a little bit because I 76 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:53,079 expected something different and what I expected because I am 77 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,079 knowledgeable about the subject, I expected a little more depth 78 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,240 about it. And really what it is a Steven Spielberg 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,519 science fiction movie, and it has a lot of the 80 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,920 components of the UFO phenomenon, but he threw in some 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,720 extra things for the other people. I felt was a 82 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,439 little action adventure and some things components that I really 83 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:25,600 didn't think belonged in the UFO our world. They were 84 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:30,120 like that there was a whatever he was doing by 85 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:36,000 location or something when Colin Firth is going into whatever 86 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:38,879 viewing remote like that remote viewing, but he's in two 87 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,120 places remote viewing really as you're here and you're going, 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,439 but his actual body was somehow transporting and though that's 89 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:51,439 not really And then I wondered about this magical device, 90 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,160 what that was, and I thought, well, the magical sticks. 91 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:58,759 In the end, I think I was looking. I was 92 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,240 going through my uf knowledgeable brain and expecting a little more. 93 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,800 And I'm still glad it's addressing the phenomenon. I think 94 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,720 that's fabulous, and I'm glad he incorporated those things. And 95 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:14,720 I think it's a good Spielberg film. It doesn't quite 96 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,920 have the magic I don't think that maybe ET and 97 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:22,800 Close Encounters had, but he made that movee and I 98 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,879 just thought it would be a little bit, a little 99 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,920 bit more meat and maybe from the time of disclosure 100 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,879 on instead of leaving leading to that moment. So I 101 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,639 just guess I expect it a little different. 102 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:39,199 Speaker 1: That's it, Thank you, all right. So I just wanted 103 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:43,480 to say that I agree with a lot of what 104 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,439 you say here, but I also realized that we're in 105 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,639 the UFO world and there's that's a very tiny fraction 106 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,920 of the people out there, and he has to make 107 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:56,000 this for all audiences. He has to make this exciting. 108 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,439 So if you look at it from a science fiction 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,279 type of angle, I think he did really well. The 110 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:07,079 quality was there, the music, the scores were great. It 111 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,720 was dramatic. I thought some things were hokey, but I'm 112 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,879 thinking of it in the mind of a UFO person 113 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,279 and the CGI animals for one, the stick thing, I 114 00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:23,879 thought that was interesting. Also, I know they had to 115 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,120 build the character. And just keep in mind, if you're 116 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,240 listening this far, you just come in spoiler alert. We're 117 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:33,519 alerts here. We're going to be talking about details in 118 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,399 the movie. So they had to make it so like 119 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,120 a whistleblower type of guy that snuck out all these 120 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,959 files and then he saw this alien getting harmed and 121 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,199 that's why he came forward. I thought that was an 122 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,279 interesting turn, and there was a lot of turns and 123 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,759 things in the movie. But I'm just starting the conversation here. 124 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:03,079 Who wants to go next? We can't have dead air 125 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,519 too long? 126 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, dead Air, Sorry, we're here. This is Sam 127 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,519 for listeners. I agreed with a lot of what Donna said. 128 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,480 It was for me, it tried to be too many 129 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,079 things to too many people, and failed to be any 130 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,439 one thing for any one person. It suffered from dilution 131 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,639 of message. I thought, in that attempt, like you said, Martin, 132 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,199 for it to appeal to a demographic beyond our very 133 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:32,039 small like UFO weirdo field, I thought it touched on 134 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,759 a lot of interesting things. One of the I think 135 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,600 something for me that was a good example of scratching 136 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,039 the surface of some of the broader and deeper aspects 137 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,240 of the whole idea of disclosure in the phenomena was 138 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,519 the character of Jane, who was a former novitiate at 139 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:53,960 a what is it? What's the convent? I don't know, 140 00:08:56,519 --> 00:08:58,720 And I thought that was they paid lip service to 141 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:03,399 the idea that the revelation of extraterrestrial or non human 142 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:08,120 intelligence from somewhere else would cause the religious structures on 143 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:10,799 Earth to collapse and cause people to fail in their 144 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:14,360 beliefs and the churches would fall, which I personally I 145 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,600 think is a pretty narrow, short sighted view of what 146 00:09:17,759 --> 00:09:21,960 humanity is capable of and adapting to. And I don't 147 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,639 feel like that was ever. She had a great conversation 148 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,279 with her mother superior about whether or not the Bible. 149 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:34,360 The Christian Bible comported with the idea of their life 150 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,879 in other places, and I thought that was actually a 151 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:40,000 really cool part where they're quoting I won't butcher whatever 152 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,240 exact verse it was, but the point was that God 153 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,240 created all life on earth, and it didn't imply or 154 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,080 in our likeness in His likeness on earth, and it 155 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,919 didn't imply that was the only place there was earth. 156 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,039 So I thought that was like an elegant way of 157 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,399 dealing with that. But I also think that is one 158 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,159 of the many specs that warranted a deeper and more, 159 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,879 I don't know, a more serious dive into some of 160 00:10:06,879 --> 00:10:10,080 those implications that could result. And that's just one arena 161 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:15,639 that I saw. And the mcguffin, I don't, I don't, 162 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,879 I guess, I don't know why this advanced race would 163 00:10:17,919 --> 00:10:21,200 need that stick to do their things. And I felt 164 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,279 like it was very much a throwback to the action 165 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,759 venture movies where they're chasing the Golden Idol or the 166 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,000 multice facin or the Jedi Holocron or something like that. Is, yeah, 167 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:38,240 serves a purpose probably larger than its actual existence would warrant. 168 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,480 But yeah, those were my thoughts. 169 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam, I just want to show this picture 170 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:45,600 I took in the theater because it's I think it's 171 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,639 the only picture I can actually put up without getting 172 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,679 a coffee copyright strike. You have to be real careful 173 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,320 about that. So who wants to go next? Kelly or Jack? 174 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: Jack should go? 175 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:01,039 Speaker 5: Let's hear Jack, all right, Jack, Sam, I love me 176 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,960 a good Jedi holocron. That was a good Star Wars 177 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,159 reference there. I just tried to type it into the 178 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:09,360 chat and what is the stream yard? The service? It 179 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:10,600 wouldn't let me post it, Martin. 180 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:11,279 Speaker 1: It wasn't allowed. 181 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,279 Speaker 5: It was like improper. 182 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about. 183 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,159 Speaker 5: But anyways, I listening to you guys, I feel a 184 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,879 little embarrassed. Not gonna lie before I talked to everyone 185 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:23,639 here on the call as a UFO had at least, 186 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,399 I like to think of myself as one kind of 187 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,879 the film. I felt like it was bad for the 188 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,000 sci fi crowd. I thought the movie sucked. I think 189 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,679 the music was great, but it was it didn't fit 190 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,480 the film in my opinion. It was like, yeah, you 191 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,080 hear some movie too. Yeah you had John Williams, what's 192 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,279 his name, John Williams Williams and he did Star Wars, 193 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,879 Harry Potter, like all these. 194 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: He is the composer of our time. He's the guy. 195 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: He's done it all. 196 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: Any movie you're gonna remember it's his music. But in 197 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:59,559 this film, I was just kind of it felt like 198 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,120 it had all star music, but it didn't fit with 199 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,200 the film that Spielberg was trying to create. I felt 200 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,320 like the trailer was better than the movie from a 201 00:12:08,399 --> 00:12:14,159 sci fi enthusiast, just a non UFO person. But I 202 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,600 think piggybacking off of what you said, Sam saying that 203 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,519 they was it did too much and it diluted the 204 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,840 whatever the message that was he was trying to convey 205 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:26,399 as a UFO had. I was like, oh, man, I 206 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,399 was watching and I was like he was touching on 207 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,879 all these little UFO things in the wand I hear 208 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:34,279 you guys say that you didn't like it, but it 209 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,440 reminded me of Mario Woods. They had a wand when 210 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,840 he got abducted that had a light up thing at 211 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:43,919 the end and that I don't know, it just reminded 212 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,440 me of that, and I felt Spielberg was kind of 213 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,639 like drawing on all of these different even at the 214 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,879 end of the film, do you guys remember when the 215 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:53,000 role in the b roll on the news station in 216 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:55,799 the movie, and to me, it looked like it was 217 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,240 the Penttrick UFO case with the diamond shaped UFO fine 218 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,759 in the background. And then there was another UFO case 219 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,759 one in Pennsylvaniaah, yeah, that got referenced. I was in 220 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:08,440 my UFO dude in me was like, oh my crap, 221 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,519 this is great. 222 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:10,919 Speaker 6: In such the main film. 223 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,279 Speaker 5: But maybe I just dumbed down my expectations because I 224 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 felt like I totally get what you're saying, where yeah, 225 00:13:17,399 --> 00:13:20,080 it was a little bit too much, kind of took 226 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,279 away from the story. It absolutely was. And yeah, the 227 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:28,120 invisible cloaking thing and then making yourself appear in two 228 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:32,279 locations at once, I absolutely get that too. Definitely hokey 229 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,159 for me. I just maybe I just love the UFO 230 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,679 thing too much. If you just throw a couple things 231 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,519 in there, I'm just gonna love the whole film. So 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,399 maybe that's what it was. But like, at least nobody's 233 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:47,759 gonna know the Petrick UFO case. Nobody's gonna know the Kecksburg, 234 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,759 Pennsylvania UFO case. But guess what Steven Spieler put it 235 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,320 in his film for two seconds and billions of people 236 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,240 are going to see that. I think there's a lot 237 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:58,960 of value in that, But that's my take. I felt 238 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,399 like for the sci fi and in the theater, you guys, 239 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,559 I just saw it last night, so it's fresh, But 240 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,960 like people were like the it was not a very 241 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,879 positive experience in the theater with all the muggles and 242 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,840 the non UFO people in there. 243 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,039 Speaker 1: How about that? 244 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,399 Speaker 5: In my opinion, I felt like they didn't even realize 245 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:18,919 what they were seeing, how much research was actually in 246 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,200 that film and all these historical cases, nobody's gonna know, 247 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,639 like Martin, one of my favorite I know it wasn't 248 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:26,399 in the film, but I felt like it should have 249 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,200 been the Area fifty one UFO case in Missouri before 250 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,639 before Area fifty one even occurred, the UFO crash landing. 251 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,879 I forget what it was called. 252 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: What was it, Kelly, Cape. 253 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,159 Speaker 6: Girardau oh, Cape Girardo, Like, nobody's going to know these cases. 254 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's my take. 255 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,759 Speaker 1: What are you, Kelly? And wait before you go there, 256 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:51,159 I just wanted to You mentioned the trailer, and I 257 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,159 thought it was really funny because that trailer when she's 258 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,960 up there and she did a wonderful job Emily Blunt, 259 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,279 by the way, but when she was up there doing 260 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,080 the language, I can't do it. And then as a 261 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,799 weather yeah, go ahead, try as a weather person. And 262 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,200 I was saying after we watched the trailer, we did 263 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,559 a review in the trailer, and I said, boy, that 264 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:14,159 weather person sure gets a lot of views because I 265 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:16,559 had the people on the trains that had the nuns. 266 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,720 And but that was just a cut from at the 267 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,399 very end of the movie when they were showing the 268 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:23,600 rail films. It was so they mixed the trailer up 269 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:28,240 to change expectations when you got there. And now George 270 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:30,600 turn Kelly. 271 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so I'm probably more on the Jack end of 272 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:35,919 the spectrum. I knew that I was going to do 273 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,200 this to myself. I hyped myself up way too much 274 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 for this movie. I've been looking forward to it forever, 275 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,080 so I knew going in it wasn't going to live 276 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:47,679 up to my expectations. And yeah, I'm with Jack. Some 277 00:15:47,799 --> 00:15:50,440 of the action slash sci fi elements, like it might 278 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,679 be the worst car chase I've seen in a long time. 279 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: It was pretty bad. 280 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was real bad. The CG. I'm a little 281 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,720 bit more forgiving about because I've heard Whitley and other 282 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:06,879 experiencers talk at length about just the uncanny valley of 283 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:09,720 what they see, and it doesn't quite match what it's 284 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,840 supposed to look like, because obviously it's a mask that's 285 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:15,720 being put on by whatever NHI is. And so the 286 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:19,519 idea that the animals wouldn't really look like real animals 287 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:23,440 but would look like a fantasy, almost like there was 288 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,240 a nod to snow white, right, they were almost like 289 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,960 snow white woodland creatures. And I actually that worked for me. 290 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:31,480 The CG was bad, but that worked for me. I 291 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:34,759 thought that I know we're doing it's okay for spoilers, 292 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,440 but like the very end, the creature at the very end, 293 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,559 I thought the CG on that was pretty good. I 294 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,960 was happy with that. I actually think the performances saved 295 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,840 the movie for me. I think the script was pretty 296 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:52,200 darn bad, and I think that the acting is the 297 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,919 only reason that the script wasn't a complete distraction for me. 298 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,720 I think Emily Blunt especially did a phenomenal job. I 299 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:02,960 think Josh O'Connor did a really good job. Colin Firth 300 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:06,440 is always good. I loved the Hugo character that that 301 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:08,759 was for me even more the heart of the movie 302 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:13,039 than Emily Blunt's character. And I've heard people talk about this, 303 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,640 but towards the end of the movie, when we're watching 304 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:22,359 the a newscast, the woman who was being you know, 305 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,079 acting as a newscaster, apparently she is a former newscaster herself. 306 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,759 I thought her performance, the live like digestion of what 307 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,960 was going on, was probably the best performance in the movie, 308 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,519 and that was one of the most things for me. Yeah, 309 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:37,759 I think the movie was and don I think you 310 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:40,920 were getting at this. For me, the movie was just oversimplified, 311 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:47,319 like it was too cookie cutter to like little kid 312 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,240 version of what this story is. And obviously they're never 313 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,480 going to be able to tell the complexity that all 314 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:55,039 of us be happy with. I feel like it was 315 00:17:55,079 --> 00:18:03,240 treated so simplistically. This like govern bad knowledge good and 316 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:05,079 to be honest, one of my friends brought up this, 317 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,759 and I thought this was interesting given all the political 318 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,599 stuff surrounding Aliens, dot gov and all of this. I 319 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,000 think some people have brought up whether there was some 320 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,400 deliberate political messaging in there that Spielberg, I know, is 321 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,599 definitely on the opposite end of the spectrum. Politically, but 322 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:21,240 I thought that was something interesting to contemplate because the 323 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:24,559 timing is interesting. Final thought, I did hear there were 324 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:30,000 like forty two drafts of the script written, so that 325 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,640 and I don't know enough about Spielberg's process to know 326 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,200 whether that's like normal for a Spielberg film or whether 327 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,359 that's really abnormal. It sounds like a lot to me, 328 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:41,240 but I don't know if that was indicative of a 329 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,599 lot of stuff being changed. If I want to be 330 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,960 a conspiracy theorist, I could say like stuff that was 331 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,640 maybe forced to be changed. I have nothing to back 332 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,519 that up other than wanting to believe there is more 333 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:53,880 complexity there to begin with. But yeah, so I overall 334 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,839 enjoyed it. It was a good experience for me. But 335 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,839 I definitely hear what you're saying, Donna. That's much Sam. 336 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:00,480 I've to listen to him all the time. But I 337 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,839 hear what you're saying, Donna about your concerns. I think 338 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:04,680 that's really valid. 339 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: I do have to throw in there to build on 340 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,720 what Jack was saying about some of the little Easter 341 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,839 eggs that were hidden in there. I absolutely adored those, 342 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,240 and it made me feel like I'm a nerd and 343 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:23,400 I like various fandoms, and I felt like that feeling 344 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,880 you get when your favorite property is somehow is made 345 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,079 into a movie. Finally, and it's still got to appeal 346 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,839 to everybody, but they're going to put a few things 347 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,559 in there that just feel like friends to you, and 348 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:35,599 it feels like a message just to you, and that's 349 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:38,440 a good thing for me. I loved, absolutely, adored, and 350 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,559 it's probably one of my favorite parts of any movie 351 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,799 I have seen, Like recently, was Nixon and Jackie Gleason's h. 352 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah it was homestead, right, yeah, in Florida. 353 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 354 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,039 Speaker 2: I thought I've always in my mind played that out 355 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,799 just because they were both such larger than life characters, 356 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,799 and I just thought that that whole scenario is just 357 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,240 so fascinating and compelling to me. I love thinking about it. 358 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:07,559 And it was so great to see him Jackie out 359 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:10,079 on the tarmac, wave in his hands and happy to 360 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,160 see Nixon and nick I thought that was done wonderfully, 361 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000 and again there was no reason that he needed to 362 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:19,119 do that other than you know, for people like us and. 363 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 6: Jack To your point of just the specific nods, I 364 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,160 have to say probably my heart grew three sizes. We 365 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,559 went with both of our daughters and with my parents. 366 00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:30,720 My eleven year old when they said Nathan Twinning, they 367 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,559 didn't say Nathan Twining, but there was a care name 368 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,960 Nathan Twinning. When my oldest poked her head out and 369 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,720 looked over at. 370 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:37,839 Speaker 3: Me like, Mom, did you hear that? 371 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. That was great. 372 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: I was like, you got it, kid. 373 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 6: So yeah, there were some fun nods like that for sure. 374 00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now somewhere there's been rumors, and I don't know 375 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,960 if any of this is true or not, but supposedly 376 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:54,079 one of the clips toward the end of the movie 377 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,759 was supposed to be a real one. Now I don't 378 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,720 know if anyone can verify that. I couldn't think of 379 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:01,839 what it would be, which one it. 380 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: Would be supposed to be. 381 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 6: Well, one is what I heard, and we'll tell you 382 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,000 what the roswell. One is what I supposed to be. 383 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:13,400 And I would bet a whole lot that was absolutely 384 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720 not an actual video. 385 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that's just promotion wise. Yeah, you think if 386 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,279 he's spent something like eighty million on promotionals and so 387 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:26,880 any little thing that gets out like that is free press. 388 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,039 When it goes viral out there. But yeah, oh we 389 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,039 have Shane from down Under. He's been showing up for 390 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:38,920 over ten or twelve years. Welcome Shane. So thank you 391 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,599 all for being here in chat and we'll take any 392 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,359 questions or any comments you want to post. Make sure 393 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,119 you put him in all caps. I appreciate it. 394 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: I think that Spielberg did a great job synthesizing the 395 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,400 history of. 396 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,279 Speaker 4: The ufolic of modern day uphology. He stuck that in there. 397 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: Maybe people won't know exactly what they're looking at, but 398 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,200 it might peak their curious. Most people probably don't know 399 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,359 about Jackie Gleason and Nixon, but they'll say, oh, was 400 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,440 that a thing we searched, But we'd get the history 401 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,559 in there pretty well, So credit for that. 402 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: I thought Johanni here, who's actually helped in the chart room, 403 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,079 wanted to know what would make the film better. I 404 00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:23,160 guess I'd have to say what would make that film better? 405 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,000 To who to? It really depends on the audience and Jack, 406 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:30,680 I was kind of surprised you said that people were 407 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,960 not enjoying it in the theater. You basically were saying that, right. 408 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was when you hear the murmurs after the 409 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,039 film and everything there was a lot of silence, not 410 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,680 a lot there was nobody was clapping or cheering, And 411 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,799 then I forget there was just things. I was hearing 412 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:50,440 people saying, that's it like stuff like that. 413 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,559 Speaker 3: The ending. Let's maybe we should discuss the ending and 414 00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:56,400 what we thought that meant. 415 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:58,039 Speaker 4: I'm not sure true. 416 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,839 Speaker 5: And how about wheeling out the alien like a tall 417 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,680 guy in a wheel chair. 418 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it was. 419 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,279 Speaker 5: What are we doing? 420 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,839 Speaker 1: That was? What took you that out of it jump? 421 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:11,960 That was weird. 422 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. 423 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,599 Speaker 1: I think the movie would have been. It wouldn't have 424 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,559 changed the movie at all. It would maybe even a 425 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:20,720 little bit better, I think now. Unfortunately, I remember Kelly, 426 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,559 I think you just said that you thought it was good, 427 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,839 and that's fine. We all have different opinions. 428 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 6: But I didn't think it was great. I thought it 429 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,119 was good. 430 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, It was It was. 431 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:32,759 Speaker 3: It was a solid film. 432 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: No, I've been talking about the alien being wheeled out. 433 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: In c G on. 434 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 6: The alien itself was really good. 435 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:46,759 Speaker 1: That was a real alien. That's surprised. I've seen it 436 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:47,319 in my back ey. 437 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: That was a real alien. 438 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,319 Speaker 1: And they couldn't find an elk with a sad card either. 439 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,839 They tried. 440 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: That's why one of the things that was and Donna 441 00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:00,200 spoke about this at the beginning in terms of like 442 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,640 kind of the things you expect from a Spielberg movie, 443 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,920 and I feel like, I love Jaws is probably my 444 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,640 favorite Spielberg film. I love horror, but I feel like 445 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,759 Close Encounters did an incredible job with capturing the tone 446 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,839 and mood in a really effective way. So, starting from 447 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,039 the beginning of Close Encounters, there's this kind of sense 448 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:25,079 of menace and dread as they're trying to figure out 449 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,440 what's happening in this situation that they've been thrust into 450 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,319 these experiencers and you don't know how it's going to 451 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,880 go for them, and it's almost it has almost a horror, 452 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,279 dark sci fi tone in the beginning, and as they 453 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,920 are brought more fully into this world, that expands into 454 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,440 this sense of wonder and possibility and delight that there 455 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,240 are things that we don't know. And I felt like 456 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,799 none of that was present in Disclosure Day. I felt 457 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,839 like it was kind of just as straight it was 458 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,359 over in the chat a minute ago. It was a 459 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,960 chase movie, it was an action adventure, and there were 460 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,359 I think opportunities to make some of those decisions that 461 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,160 would be more emotionally impactful to viewers on both sides 462 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,960 of the spectrum, whether they're just casual Friday night moviegoers 463 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,759 or whether there's on this stuff generally. 464 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have a point a question to ask 465 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:20,799 everyone here, if this was really happening, if someone really 466 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,119 had that type of information and was going to put 467 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,559 it out, do you think the government would go to 468 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,640 the great lengths that it was going to eliminate that 469 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,079 person and those people involved. That was way over the top, 470 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,119 I think, But I don't know. 471 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:39,599 Speaker 6: I think they would have just killed them. I don't 472 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,279 think it would have taken that much over the top. 473 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,160 I really do, very honestly, I think they absolutely would 474 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,480 kill them. I think there's pretty decent evidence that has happened, 475 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,400 and I don't think that it would have been like 476 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,319 the most inept car chase in the history of you. 477 00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 5: Know, Yeah, that was bad. 478 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 6: It's so bad. 479 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: Remember when he stopped the car to go in the house, 480 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,559 to go back in the car to drive through the house, 481 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,400 and they still didn't catch up to him. 482 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 6: But yeah, Al Martin, I do think that has happened, 483 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,960 and I think that they would have done it a 484 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,799 lot more cleanly than what this movie portrayed. 485 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: Remember some guy go insane? 486 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 6: Oh he did? 487 00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was Paul Benewitz. And then at the end, 488 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,079 Colin Firth just gives up, just sits down. 489 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 6: And but that was because he lived life so much 490 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,519 and in the image of his wife, he was told 491 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,759 that this is what needed to happen. Yeah, it was 492 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:38,319 his Achilles. 493 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: Everyone, don't forget it. Spoilers this alert spoiler at just 494 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,240 come in. Yeah, sorry, now you go, you go. 495 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,319 Speaker 3: Just I was just thinking about this, these screen memories. 496 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,319 What do you think about these screen memories? We understood, 497 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,559 all of us in the UFO dumb know what that was. 498 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:06,039 I just wondered what would the average non savvy UFO 499 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,119 person wonder. Was it clear that that was them when 500 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,039 they were younger, when the animal is them? And I 501 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:19,119 guess there's a quick moment where they morph into the alien. 502 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,440 But we all knew what that was. But I'm wondering. 503 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,920 One of my friends said, what was that elk doing? 504 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,880 What was the elk there for? I couldn't didn't quite 505 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,880 get the reference. So there was there were these little 506 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,839 things that other people like us could pick up on. 507 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:44,759 I just wonder about the broader audience what their take 508 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:45,559 would be on that. 509 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,519 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there was definitely a mcguffin there in 510 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,279 the chat. Tony was asking that, and there's yeah, the 511 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,240 coffin shaped magic stick that they had was definitely I 512 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:59,400 felt like kind of dictionary mcguffin. I also felt, in 513 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,640 terms of the idea of eliminating a whistleblower, it would 514 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,359 have been a really cool chance to show what a 515 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,920 whistleblower really goes through today. It's not unmarked cars and 516 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,119 high speed chases and attempted killings. It's insidious social media 517 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:22,519 smear campaigns and blacklisting professionally, and family secrets getting spilled 518 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,039 into the open and kind of the things that are 519 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,960 a lot dirtier and difficult to probably show in a 520 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,759 two hour movie in the theaters, but you know, the 521 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,680 things that was really deal with. 522 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,759 Speaker 5: Also too, I feel like the real world whistleblowers in 523 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,680 the UFO world don't actually have evidence like the guy 524 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:42,680 did in the movie with the flash drives in the 525 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:47,279 video and the raw footage and the wands, the magical wands. 526 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:51,759 It's all just stories. So there was that too, not 527 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,640 very realistic. 528 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,599 Speaker 1: Spielberg. We have the receipts. As they say, Now, I 529 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,160 wonder what significance of this little guy, the cardinal. The 530 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680 cardinal came in for the when she was a little girl, 531 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:07,599 and then it came in to the table and you know, 532 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,759 in a moment I never heard of that. There was 533 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,039 no real connection. Is that another screen memory for a 534 00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,799 little tiny thing? Was that a screen memors could be 535 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720 or download? I think there was downloads from it or something. 536 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: Wasn't her her little mobile in her room was Johnny Cardinals. Yeah, 537 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,680 maybe when they chose that screen memory that nhi, they 538 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,920 picked something that they had seen was comforting to her 539 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160 watching those Cardinals spin as she. 540 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: Went to good observation. 541 00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:40,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, now here's a question here. Oh yeah, a lot 542 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,519 of people are talking about the crop circle because it 543 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,599 just kind of dropped in and then it was just 544 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,559 suffering from there. So was there any detail about the 545 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,160 crop circle incident or was it just dropped in? Yes, 546 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,240 it was just dropped in. 547 00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:57,319 Speaker 5: That's all about I forgot about it, that's right, because that. 548 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,599 Speaker 1: Was in He's mentioning that because that was indeed in 549 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,920 the trailer. And what you saw on the trailer is 550 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,799 as good as it gets. It doesn't really explain what 551 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,079 it is or anything like that. 552 00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,519 Speaker 2: It very much felt like there was initially more there 553 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:14,240 that didn't make it past the cutting room. 554 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd really love to see deleted scenes. 555 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to know how much Spielberg delegates 556 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,799 in his own work to other people, because I feel 557 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,319 like a lot of things can get lost in the 558 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,880 shuffle depending on I feel like when you get so 559 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,559 big like he has, you can pretty much hire anybody 560 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,559 you want because you have such a great pedigree of work. 561 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,240 I just wonder, yeah, how much gets lost in the 562 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,480 delegation shuffle at that point when you're working on such 563 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,759 a big stage. But yeah, Christopher, was there an owl? 564 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:48,720 I don't think I remember seeing one. 565 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Everyone talks about owls and there was no owls? 566 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: Was there? Because we hear about deer as screen memories 567 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,119 and owls, and. 568 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: We don't hear about elk though so much or cardinals. 569 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,119 Speaker 5: Hey, at least he didn't put Bigfoot in there, know 570 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,599 of those are the Bigfoot people. 571 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: If it was in there would be like they were 572 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,319 going to have ones that we're going to have by location. 573 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Bigfoot the last night and we have 574 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,319 the owl. 575 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:20,759 Speaker 4: Wow. 576 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there is that weird connection about owls. I 577 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,359 don't need to get into it, but add to a 578 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,519 lot of people say that they see owls and ends 579 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,519 up being more than owls, and yeah, I think that. 580 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640 I think it was clever the way they did the 581 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,799 screen memory, but it's just something that only we would 582 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,000 really know about. And the person on the outside, your 583 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,400 friend Jimmy said, what's that moose doing there? He said, 584 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,000 I don't understand what the moose had to do? 585 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,319 Speaker 3: And then the end, he said, Okay, listen, what are 586 00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:56,119 we listening for? 587 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,799 Speaker 4: A sequel? 588 00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: Is what's happening? 589 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 5: Like? 590 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone thinks that it's gonna be see. 591 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,599 Speaker 3: Because how wasn't that the end? 592 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:04,799 Speaker 2: I think that was it. 593 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,559 Speaker 6: Emily Blund actually has given who knows if there's anything 594 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,359 to it, but she's given a couple of interviews where 595 00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,440 she's suggested that she thinks everybody would be really excited 596 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,599 to get together to continue the story, but she doesn't 597 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880 know if there are any plans to I think there 598 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,079 are two ways you can take the end. I took 599 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:26,880 it as like literally, listen to experiencers, listen to what's 600 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,039 going on around you, but it certainly could be seen 601 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 as a Cliffhanger, listen to what I'm about to tell you, 602 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:35,440 and then we don't get to hear what she tell 603 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,640 but yeah, yeah. 604 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Before we're still since we're still talking about the animals. 605 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,720 This right here, I want to answer this for Tony. Yes, Tony, 606 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,880 they were bad, and really bad. CGI he could have 607 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,599 done much better. That's why I was joking, why couldn't 608 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:55,519 he given Fiel birth? So I'm going to tell you why. 609 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,759 I think. I think that's so people might understand that 610 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,000 there were screen memories because they were so hokey looking. 611 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,319 Could we go with that in that direction? Maybe? 612 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard I have not experienced this, but I've 613 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,319 heard a lot of experiencers like Whitley talk about the 614 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,200 uncanny nature of what they're seeing in those screen memories, 615 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,359 that it doesn't look normal, and so I think it 616 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,960 definitely conveyed that these are definitely not real animals. Though 617 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240 I have heard lots of jokes that the CG for 618 00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:28,000 the animals and Sheep Detective was much much better than 619 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,039 the CG for the animals in Disclosure Day. 620 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has unlimited funds, so I think that was 621 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,359 a purposeful to make it look like that. I think 622 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,480 he I think the I wish we could actually ask him, yeah, 623 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,799 that's why he did that without him getting insulted. 624 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,599 Speaker 2: I do feel like the one time I got that 625 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,680 kind of Spielberg shiver that I think we looked for 626 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,839 in his best work, the one time that came close 627 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640 to that for me. The one scene was where she's 628 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,680 Blunt's young characters being led away from the house by 629 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,799 the animals, and then it pans and you can see 630 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,719 that the footsteps they're leaving are little three toed alien footprints. 631 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right. 632 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: That was a really fun just visual device that then 633 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,559 was like, what a cool idea. 634 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,079 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. You're right, So let's let's answer 635 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,880 doctor Richard's question here. How did Spielberg develop the empathy thing? 636 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,440 Do you know what? Do you understand? The question? 637 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: Empathy? 638 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,599 Speaker 2: To me, it was really important throughout both empathy and 639 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,039 there was a good point made in the chat they're 640 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,960 abducting children or why should we feel bad for them? 641 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:43,119 But it was empathy. It was empathy that caused the 642 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,400 empathy at the plight of these beings that people to 643 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,119 evaluate their morals and decide that the world needed to 644 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:54,360 see this. It was of a section of the live 645 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,840 dissection of the Alien that really spurred the quote, good 646 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,360 people on the inside to evaluate what our motives are 647 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440 and realize that this isn't who we want to be 648 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:09,119 as a civilization, and try to take steps to change that. 649 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,360 And then I think it carries all the way through 650 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,920 to the end with the idea of listen again, which 651 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,079 is the ultimate expression of empathy, is listening to someone 652 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,440 and really hearing what they're saying, no matter who that 653 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,519 person may be or what that being may be. 654 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,159 Speaker 5: Thret narrative. 655 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 6: Thank goodness, I agree. 656 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,159 Speaker 5: I'm glad he didn't do that. 657 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to. Eric Mantel was going to 658 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880 join us tonight and he can. He's doing some filming. 659 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000 He's always doing some filming. He's very active in the 660 00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:45,000 paranormal world. And I told him that I would read 661 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,159 his review. And he was one of these people. I 662 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,920 was invited to see the movie on the eighth in 663 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,800 New York City early and I couldn't make it. Unfortunately, 664 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,280 I'm going to pull up his I don't need to 665 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960 pull it up. I'm just going to read it real quickly. 666 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,239 His review. Upon seeing this film and an advanced screening 667 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,159 last week, I genuinely was excited about what it was 668 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,039 promised to deliver. As the two and a half hour 669 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,960 runtime unfolded, it became clear, while the production had Spielberg's 670 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,199 unmistakable touch, it was light years away from the magic 671 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,519 and wonder of Close Encounters of the Third kind in 672 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,719 Ets Extraterrestrial, two of my all time favorite films for me, 673 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,000 there were no truly memorable musical themes, very little sense 674 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,519 of awe, and some cgi fell flat. I have to 675 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:38,960 admit I was disappointed. Steven Spielberg doesn't have any more 676 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,079 insider knowledge about the UFO phenomenon than you or I do. 677 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,039 He's a filmmaker and this is ultimately his own story. 678 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960 That said, Emily Blunt was absolutely steals the show, as 679 00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,000 does the fellow reporter at the TV station once all 680 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:57,480 hell breaks loose. Their performances were among the film's strongest elements, 681 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,920 which we all agree on. I believe I simply was 682 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,400 hoping for more, especially moments that captured the anticipation and 683 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,320 the emotional payoff of Close Encounters, where everything builds toward 684 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,199 an unforgettable meeting. Much of what we see here feels 685 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,639 rather than groundbreaking feel Oh feels familiar rather than groundbreaking 686 00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:24,039 if you go expecting entertainment, not disclosure. Still, there's one 687 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:27,760 thing the movie accomplishes very well. It has people talking 688 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,039 about UFOs. I agree with that in Extra Trustoral Life, 689 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,079 and there is some new video evidence being released that's 690 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:38,119 very compelling and I can definitely appreciate that. Thank you, 691 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,840 Eric for letting us read that. We chimed in for you. 692 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,119 Speaker 5: Shout out Eric, way to go Mintel. 693 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well done. That's all good points, I. 694 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 6: Think, I agree. 695 00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:52,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So we are open for questions. We don't 696 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,440 have to make this any type of a long show, 697 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,559 in particular for running out of gas, but so please 698 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840 post your questions in perhaps I don't know, Donald, do 699 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,119 you have any more points you want to make? 700 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 4: Not off the top of my head. 701 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 5: I got one, Martin, going back to what Yanni asked 702 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,159 you earlier about what can be done to make the 703 00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:12,519 film better. Something that I feel like George Lucas was 704 00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,480 really big on when he would write his stories. He 705 00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:17,480 wouldn't put famous actors in his films because he felt 706 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:20,880 like their names and their likeness would take away from 707 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000 the story that he's trying to tell. And I feel 708 00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:25,239 like putting Emily Blunt in and a couple of the 709 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,480 other actors could have made if he didn't have big names. 710 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,559 And I wonder if people would have focused more on 711 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,239 the story, it might have elevated whatever he was trying. 712 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: To portray on the screen. Very good point. 713 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: That's one thing I would think. 714 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And do you think that this is going 715 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,199 to be Spielberg's last UFO related film. 716 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,519 Speaker 5: I could always use another. I hope not. 717 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,639 Speaker 4: I'm hoping to put the sequel myself. 718 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,639 Speaker 3: Maybe as time goes on and this just the real 719 00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:05,239 disclosure happens, there'll be more fodder for whatever I'm The 720 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:13,800 coincidence of this being released during the actual disclosure is 721 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,920 what do we call that synchronicity? 722 00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:18,679 Speaker 4: Is that. 723 00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 5: Government propaganda? 724 00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,159 Speaker 3: But think about how could it be propaganda? Would have 725 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,559 to be Spielberg must have started this years ago. This 726 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:33,880 didn't And how did we know that Trump was going 727 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,239 to be the one that says, okay, release the files. 728 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,320 We were actually going to make a big deal of it. 729 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920 We're going to make it. We're going to legitimize it 730 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,960 by saying, Okay, there is such a thing and we're 731 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719 going to release it. It couldn't have possibly, I know, 732 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,519 people are saying it's a PSI off operation. It's like 733 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:54,000 it could not possibly be. 734 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: We must have started the movie five years ago. I 735 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,159 would imagine it takes a lot gather something like that. 736 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, And he's had so many pieces of different UAP 737 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,960 themed movies that he's written over the years, and some 738 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,559 of them have made it to the s and serious, 739 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,199 some of them have made it to the screen, some 740 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,039 of them have not. But I do think the timing 741 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,360 does just seem a little weird. Whether that is synchronicity 742 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,320 or not necessarily the existence of the movie, but the 743 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,880 timeline on which it was released does seem yeah, like 744 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,119 coincidental or maybe nefariously coincidental. 745 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,519 Speaker 5: Who have you guys ever have you guys heard of 746 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:42,840 what Bryce Zabel has said? I think it was dark 747 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,719 Skies about how that gentleman from the Naval Intelligence went 748 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,320 to his viewer party and then he wanted them to 749 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:56,239 put in information into his film. That's right, basically a 750 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,159 person from the military industrial complex, and didn't he And 751 00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,000 this is the part I don't remember. Want I might 752 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,559 be misstating this, but Denny, don't you have to sign 753 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,960 an NDA when a government liaison approaches you and wants 754 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,760 you to put stuff in your film. I can't remember 755 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,360 if he said that, So I'm wondering, is Spielberg under 756 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440 some kind of government nda where he has to lie 757 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,599 to the public anyways, Like, I don't know if he 758 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,599 was approached to put certain things in that film or 759 00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:25,440 exclude certain things. 760 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 6: I don't know, And that's what I'm occurring, especially with 761 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,239 all the rewrites. 762 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: He started writing this in observed action. Oh, I'm sorry, 763 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,719 pardon me. The story started in the summer of twenty 764 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,519 twenty three, so it wasn't that long ago. He was 765 00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:48,880 inspired by the twenty seventeen New York Times article that 766 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,320 kind of changed everything, that kind of inspired him to 767 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,039 do this movie. According to what I'm reading online. 768 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 6: I saw the same thing, Martin. But that itself seems 769 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960 weird to me that it was six years before he 770 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:04,400 started writing it. And he certainly stays up on the 771 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,119 topic right, whether he is insider knowledge or not, He's 772 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:10,360 clearly a nerd in the same vein that we are 773 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,039 about keeping this So six years delay for that kind 774 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,639 of inspiration does seem a little bit strange. It Like, 775 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,079 he didn't say this in that article, because I'm sure 776 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,559 we saw the same one Martin, But twenty twenty three 777 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,119 was Grush giving significant testimony, and so it seems that 778 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,239 the inspiration timeline aligns more closely with that. But why 779 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320 that wasn't what he's discussed, I don't know. 780 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,119 Speaker 1: I think I think we should go around one more time, 781 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,119 all the way around, say our last, and maybe give 782 00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:45,199 how many stars out of five? With this a lot 783 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,679 of pressure? Who wants to go first? I'll go first, Okay. 784 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,159 Speaker 3: I give it four stars. I thought it was very entertaining. 785 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,320 Once I got out of my UFO world to the 786 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,360 general world, I'm like, okay, I can see. How can 787 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,400 you put all this in? 788 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,079 Speaker 1: Really? 789 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 3: Did you think that Steven Spurrell Spielberg had some like 790 00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:11,639 Eric said, some inside and knowledge or something that knew whatever. 791 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,400 But I think that it was a good overview, and 792 00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,840 I'm glad. I'm happy that the topic is out there 793 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 and all of that. I think it was a well 794 00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,440 done movie. I just think it wasn't quite the Spielberg 795 00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,760 experience that I had hoped for, but a good experience. 796 00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, thank you, who's going, Jack, I think 797 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,719 you're next. 798 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,119 Speaker 5: I think i'd go maybe three point six out of 799 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:41,920 five on that one, Yeah, okay, and then I would 800 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,719 say I really enjoyed what he did with putting us 801 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,360 through the experiencer's lens of the topic when Emily Blunt's 802 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,360 character was having that panic attack and understanding she was 803 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,280 trying to figure out what is happening to her even 804 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,559 though she's having all these things happening, and she's realizing 805 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,679 she's not really in control and all of these paranormal 806 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,760 things are happening. I feel like a lot of experiencers 807 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,519 out there, I'm wondering, might be able to relate to 808 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,360 what that character was going through during her arc in 809 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,599 the film. But yeah, I'd say three point six. It 810 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:16,320 is what it is. 811 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 1: Okay. I'm letting people pop in questions here, so I'm 812 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,320 just going to before we move on to the next person. 813 00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:26,199 This is Joanni wants to know why do you think 814 00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,920 it was said that it might affect some folks faith 815 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,199 in spiritual or what is that phynosis like thing things 816 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,599 when the news are with what would actually an HI 817 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,440 do that? Wondering the views here, I think personally, I 818 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,400 think that it probably depending on what we find out. 819 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,880 If we ever find out that, it really depends if 820 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,920 it's something dangerous or not, but I think people are 821 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,079 pretty well accustomed to the fact that we're probably not alone. 822 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,480 I think it's going to tear it down society, like 823 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,639 some people believe it is. I don't know if you 824 00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:07,360 want to go off that anyone. 825 00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree entirely with that perspective, Martin. And also 826 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:19,199 I think for people with a foundational religious or spiritual belief, 827 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:24,960 I think that will encompass most things in time if 828 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,440 it becomes necessary. I think that those revelations can be 829 00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:34,239 folded in to very strongly held faith or spiritualism if 830 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,480 your world is all encompassing and that there's a reason 831 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:40,679 for things. At the base of all religion and faith, 832 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,039 there's a reason for things, and whatever your take on 833 00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:48,960 that reason is, I think that NHI revealing themselves are 834 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,400 being revealed could fit very neatly into most of those constructs. 835 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,519 Speaker 1: Since you're talking, why don't you give your four out 836 00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:57,920 of five star thing. 837 00:45:58,159 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to give it two and a half stars 838 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,519 from the middle of the road it. Yeah, I think 839 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,960 Donna said a lot of stuff that really resonated with me. 840 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,480 I just it didn't have the wow that I expect 841 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,960 from Spielberg. And while I really appreciated the little kind 842 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480 of nuggets that he threw out to people like us. 843 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,119 I feel like it was a missed opportunity to really 844 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,239 delve with a serious lens into some of this stuff 845 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,320 and really give it some gravitas. 846 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam Kelly. 847 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,599 Speaker 6: Because I'm really difficult, I'm going to give it two 848 00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,599 different scores. One score for like, how much I enjoyed it, 849 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,679 and one score for sorry, I just saw that comment. 850 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:43,639 Speaker 2: We all think it. 851 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 6: That's not true. You're both fabulous. Sorry for my own 852 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,079 enjoyment of it, I'll give it four stars. I really 853 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,039 enjoyed going to see it, and in term of the conversation, 854 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:01,800 it was really interesting to see it with Sam, with 855 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,119 our children and then with my parents, so three different generations, 856 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:08,599 and watching their reactions to it. I really loved watching 857 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:12,320 my kiddos and the empathy piece that it was really strong. 858 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960 That was their response to it. The only part. There 859 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,119 are some kind of spooky parts to it, but even 860 00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:22,719 with alien fingers and some pretty visceral creepy things for 861 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,800 a kid, the only parts that really threw them were 862 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:30,039 when the aliens were getting harmed, and so the empathy 863 00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,039 message was really resonating. At least with them, and I 864 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:35,320 really like that as far as just like if I'm 865 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,239 just being a movie critic without any of these other 866 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,960 hats on, Yeah, it's probably like a three point three 867 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:44,119 three point four. It just it wasn't a bad movie. 868 00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:45,840 It was a fun summer movie to go see, but 869 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,519 I don't think it was anything memorable beyond that as 870 00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:49,199 a film itself. 871 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll close with I have to say the reason 872 00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:57,280 I'm doing the stars that I'm doing here is that 873 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,760 is the anticipation of this film was so big, and 874 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360 so that's on me. So I have to look at 875 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,440 the film itself and I'll have to say four out 876 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,880 of five. But I did think that they could have 877 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,920 done something different if I was going to change it 878 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,679 with the animals. I don't know why that bothered me 879 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,000 so much. And at the end the alien, I thought 880 00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:23,400 that wasn't necessary, but I thought it was. It was 881 00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:27,840 a little disjointed and so there was a lot going on. 882 00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,199 But anyway, I enjoyed it enough, and it's one of 883 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,119 those films that when I see it on the screen 884 00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:36,800 on the TV, I'm going to watch it again. 885 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 3: Oh definitely, Yeah, pick up things subtleties that you might 886 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,239 have missed. 887 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,199 Speaker 2: We could agree that we just hope there's there are 888 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,800 more car chases than his next one. 889 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,519 Speaker 1: Yes, yep. So thank you all for being here in chat, 890 00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,320 and thank you all for watching and listening. And it'd 891 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,719 be nice if you want to post down below your 892 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,639 own comments of how you felt about this. Tomorrow. I'm 893 00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:04,920 going to be back for another live show three this week, 894 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,920 and that's going to be with sal Armato and should 895 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000 be a good show that starts at eight pm. And 896 00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:13,119 I look forward to seeing you all. And maybe I'll 897 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,000 have Donna join us for the news. I don't know, 898 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:18,960 I'll drag her in here because obviously I'm punching above 899 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,400 my weight. 900 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: Donna is one to another Martin. It's always good to 901 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,360 include in when you can. 902 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm going to send you a bottle of 903 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,079 wine and then we can drink wine together and do 904 00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:30,719 the news together. 905 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 4: Okay, that's good. 906 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, everyone, and Jack, thank you so much 907 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,960 for being here, and it's always fun having you on. 908 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,239 And I really enjoyed it. And for those of you 909 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,800 who have not seen the movie and you actually watch this, 910 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,920 I would say see it. I would say see the movie. 911 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,440 Definitely worth seeing and form your own opinion this show. 912 00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:51,559 Speaker 4: You have to see it. 913 00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:56,599 Speaker 3: You're interested. Listen they're talking about it. It's that's kind there. 914 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 4: That's something. 915 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh yes, one last thing. I thought it was very 916 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,320 interesting that the day after this came out, or the 917 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960 same day, the twelfth, that's when the UFO files dropped. Now, 918 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,360 I don't know if there was any if that's a coincidence, 919 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,679 it was planned all along, probably was, But I thought 920 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,360 that was pretty interesting, and we'll be talking about that 921 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,199 on July first. All right, okay, everyone, thanks so much. Well, 922 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:27,119 remember can we do this all at once? Do we 923 00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,840 know what it is? Remember to keep your eyes on 924 00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:31,840 the tees.