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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to text in at five six six nine zero.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been having some awesome dialogue here. Well, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>honored to introduce our guests joining us today from DC

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Jeff Crank from Colora's fifth Congressional district. Jeff, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Debra, It's great to be with you. You're doing an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome jeffassen for.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit, of course, I would expect nothing less

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<v Speaker 3>from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, sir. Coming from someone else who has

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<v Speaker 1>been on the radio a fair amount, I take that

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<v Speaker 1>as a compliment. It was great to see you in

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<v Speaker 1>Firson last week in DC, and thanks for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much going on and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>jump right into it. I appreciate you, know, your leadership

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<v Speaker 1>both in our state and in our country. And you

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<v Speaker 1>posted something on X on Twitter that I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people need to know, and it was about

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<v Speaker 1>the Boulder terrorist suspect Mohammed Sabrey Sulomon and about what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in states like Colorado where they're is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of leeway, shall we say, with those who may not

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<v Speaker 1>be here legally. Can you talk about what happened versus

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<v Speaker 1>his visa and a driver's license.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, Debra.

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<v Speaker 2>So the assailant was here on.

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<v Speaker 3>A visa, had a visa here to be in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, that visa expired, and then after it expired,

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<v Speaker 3>over a year after it expired, the state of Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>gave him a driver's license right and issued him a

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<v Speaker 3>driver's license. In addition to that, we now know that

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<v Speaker 3>he tried to buy a handgun, and both the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado Beer of Investigation and.

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<v Speaker 3>The FBI under Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew that he was not a citizen because he has.

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<v Speaker 3>Denied the purchase of a handgun. But they didn't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything with that information. They just said, oh, great, well

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<v Speaker 3>we can't give him a gun. But they could have

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<v Speaker 3>taken that information and given it to Ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice could have gone and got this guy and deported him,

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<v Speaker 2>and this whole thing never would have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't had the opportunity to do this. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>the real crime of it. And you know the problem

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<v Speaker 3>with this is it's a breakdown of the rule of

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<v Speaker 3>law when governments don't work together.

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<v Speaker 2>And the example I use I just I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on ride a launch with our law enforcement, and

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<v Speaker 3>some with the Colora Springs Police Department, some with the

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<v Speaker 3>Alpaco County Sheriff's office. And you know, when I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>there with them, they're going along and they see someone

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<v Speaker 3>and they pull them over for an expired.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag, him a ticket. And the reason they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That is because the State of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Needs their money. So, you know, I sort of asked

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<v Speaker 2>the question toy in Chek, I guess what would happen

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<v Speaker 2>if to the State.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Colorado, which doesn't seem to want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Work with our local law.

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<v Speaker 3>Enforcement and certainly doesn't want to work with ice.

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<v Speaker 2>What would happen if the El Paso.

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<v Speaker 3>County sheriff for the Douglas County sheriff or whatever sheriff's

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<v Speaker 3>office just decided, you know what, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that anymore. We're not the tax collectors for the

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<v Speaker 3>state of Colorado. We're just not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't get their money, and government collapses, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what happens when we have these sanctuary communities. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they know immigration better than the federal government, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think the American people expect better than

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<v Speaker 3>that from their government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we started the entire show talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>is a civilization If we do not have a set

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<v Speaker 1>of laws and a structure that define who we are,

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<v Speaker 1>what our values are. We've got I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines in the United States of America of any country.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that. But the minute we begin.

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<v Speaker 4>To selectively choose which laws we follow and which ones

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<v Speaker 4>we don't, which ones are government enforces and which one

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't that this is what happens and how Colorado

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<v Speaker 4>goes from one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the safest states to being I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>the most violent amongst the most populated cities in America,

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<v Speaker 1>higher now than Chicago under these different policies that are

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<v Speaker 1>going on. You know, Jeff, I know, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's divided, to say the least in the House of

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives and in DC. But there's something I would have

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<v Speaker 1>thought everybody could have agreed to. And Representative Gabe Evans

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<v Speaker 1>of Color's a new eighth Congressional District introduced a resolution

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<v Speaker 1>condemning the Boulder attack, and one hundred and thirteen Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>voted against it simply because it outlined what you just shared,

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<v Speaker 1>that this individual was here illegally and if he'd been arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>This never would have happened. Talk about that for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, good for Gabe for doing that, Congressman Evans,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is the justifiation. What are conversations that you

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<v Speaker 1>have with with those on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>aisle about things like just condemning the Boulder attack.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, I thought it was shameful, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that we even had this, had this fight and this

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<v Speaker 3>discussion on the House floor. There were at least three

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<v Speaker 3>resolutions that were presented. I was a co sponsor of

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<v Speaker 3>the one that Gave Evans introduced, Yeah, you bet, and of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course I supported it as well, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It condemned the anti Semitic attack, and then it also

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the importance of local law enforcement working with

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<v Speaker 3>the federal government and others to coordinate our response.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last thing it said was that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was it's important that Colorado's understand that

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<v Speaker 3>we're working together, the governments, working together to solve this problem.

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<v Speaker 3>That's essentially what the resolution said.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody could vote against that, but there are some who

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<v Speaker 3>wanted it to not include anything about the sanctuary Polly's

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<v Speaker 3>policies of the state. It didn't say Colorado was a

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<v Speaker 3>sanctuary state. It just said that, you know, Colorado hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been working with immigration on.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>So this kind of turned into a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a floor fight. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>Jonah Goose had a separate resolution that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>vote on. I actually co sponsored his great resolution too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did because his resolution.

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<v Speaker 3>Called out how terrible that anti Semitic Hateful Act was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that Gabes went a little farther because it also.

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<v Speaker 3>Talked about the aspect of working governments working together. I

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<v Speaker 3>co sponsored both of them. Had Jonah Goose has been

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor, I would have voted for it, but

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<v Speaker 3>many Democrats decided to not vote for Gabe Evans. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I will give Jonah Goose credit. He did end up

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<v Speaker 3>voting for the resolution that Gabe put out there. All

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<v Speaker 3>of the Republicans did who were there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then jo Nah Goose, But then we had, you know, Diana.

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<v Speaker 3>To get Britney Patterson, Jason Crowe all decided to not

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<v Speaker 3>support that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either, because, particularly when you add the element

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that the perpetrator, the terrorists basically who

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<v Speaker 1>did the horrible attack and Boulder could have been stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as you said, Colorado and the CBI and

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI both knew he was here illegally, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why he didn't get a gun. But it isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>this instance if we don't call out the cause. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just what happened in Boulder, which was horrific, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also Lake and Riley. So yes, it's good to call

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<v Speaker 1>it the nearly nine hundred percent increase in anti Semitism,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've also got to call out that there are

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<v Speaker 1>many who were whose murders could have been prevented. To

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<v Speaker 1>say the least, thank you for your leadership on that

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to up in a good positive way

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously in your district, and if you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Deborah Flora sitting in from Mandy Connell. My

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<v Speaker 1>guest is Congressman Jeff Crank of Colorado's fifth Congressional district.

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<v Speaker 1>The Air Force Academy is in your district. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>served in the Air Force, and I actually, at twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years old, got to watch walk down the aisle of

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<v Speaker 1>the Air Force Academy Chapel as my sister married a

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<v Speaker 1>graduated cadet. But one of the things that's really positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you serve on the House Armed Services Committee, there's

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<v Speaker 1>record enlistment happening over the last few years. Under the

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<v Speaker 1>previous administration, there was a challenge meeting any limits. The Army,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, has already met its recruiting goal of sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand four months early. Can you talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>you see is this change in the military culture, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a positive thing for our country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really is. It's very heartening to see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously, when you have and I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Had an administration for four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior that really blamed America. It was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>blame America first crowd that was running the show. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you do that, there's not a lot of pride

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<v Speaker 2>what to be blamed for all of the world's ills,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And this is one of the great things

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<v Speaker 2>we saw we saw when Ronald Reagan got elected, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw this resurgence of patriotism.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, this is a debate we have in

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<v Speaker 3>our country. I believe in American exceptionalism. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>do as well. And I think most people take for

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<v Speaker 3>granted what we have in the United States and how

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<v Speaker 3>great we have it here. We didn't take it for

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<v Speaker 3>granted because we live in the greatest country in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>We have all these freedoms and liberties and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>even think about them. But I think sometimes we have

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as with President Trump coming in, it is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I know people sometimes on the left get

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<v Speaker 3>triggered by the phrase, you know, America First or make

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<v Speaker 3>America great again. I think most Americans understand what that means. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>America is a great country. We're great because we have

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<v Speaker 3>the Constitution, we have the Bill of Rights that protect them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we ought to be helping export that to the world.

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<v Speaker 3>America is not a bad thing, it's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think people are signing up for the military

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<v Speaker 3>because they want to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, and I'm really glad to see that,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with the instability we're seeing in the world right now. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately have a limited time today, Congressman, but thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining in. And this will just be

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<v Speaker 1>the first of many times we'll hopefully get to do

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<v Speaker 1>this again. Thank you for all you're doing. I greatly

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Debra, it was great seeing you last week, and thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for all you're doing in Colorado. And we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds great. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my guest, Congressman Jeff Crank. Were heading through

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<v Speaker 1>a break. When we come back, I got a question

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and that I'm gonna tell you. Why how

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<v Speaker 1>do you take your coffee? Some good news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead five six six nine zero. How do you take

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<v Speaker 1>your coffee? If you drink coffee, I do up. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. I'm Debborah Flora, sitting in for Mandy Connell,