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<v Speaker 1>You know he's only Jess's half brother. Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>he's also there half brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes and buys lingerie and her dad calls her

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<v Speaker 3>a whore.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a wine cave. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a wine pile next to my trash can.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to Paris to be a dancer, and they

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<v Speaker 2>told her she would be a dancer, but then they

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<v Speaker 2>made her be a prostitute and she was pregnant and

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<v Speaker 2>she died.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome back to Meme book Club. This episode,

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<v Speaker 3>we read The Paris Apartment by Lucy Foley. Oh o

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<v Speaker 3>oie she's Lucy.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, so quick, Gord.

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<v Speaker 3>What was I don't know what was that? I was not?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So I learned that throat is gorge. Gorge, Yeah, gorge, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, quick gorge.

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<v Speaker 3>To the host or as always, we are mean. Book

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<v Speaker 3>club reread New York Times bestsellers that maybe you did

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<v Speaker 3>with your book club, but everyone loved them and you

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<v Speaker 3>were like, wait, really wait wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Are well idiots? See you guys sending up the smartest

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<v Speaker 1>person here tomorrow. And that feels that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that is how it feels. That is how it feels,

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes we continue to disappoint by still liking it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, usually we're the more Yeah, sometimes we're

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<v Speaker 3>the morals, but you know we try. That's the goal

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<v Speaker 3>is to rip it apart. I am one of your hosts,

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of your other hosts, Shanna Scrabis, And

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Claremorris joining us, she says eminently. She says, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>a minute ago she texted one minute, so you go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and set your watches to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, minute ago she did. So the minute has already

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<v Speaker 3>passed and she's not here.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so go ahead place your bets.

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<v Speaker 3>Place your bets when she shall get here. But we

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<v Speaker 3>can at least start. We can start talking about all

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<v Speaker 3>the background stuff of the book. So, for example, Johanna,

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<v Speaker 3>why do we read this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Sarah, the reason we read it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a recommendation from Noah, our friend and listener. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Noah says, hello. I first want to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>recently found your podcast and have quickly fallen in love

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Great start, Noah. It's so funny to hear

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<v Speaker 1>so many people agree with me on books that have

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<v Speaker 1>such quote critical acclaim for a future episode. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to pitch that you read The Paris Apartment by

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy Foley. It is one of the worst books I've

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<v Speaker 1>read in the past two years, and I cannot fathom

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<v Speaker 1>all caps how this book was published and then Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>was then granted the opportunity to write more. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>sexy murder mystery meant for adults but written by a child,

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<v Speaker 1>no character exposition, a piss poor understanding of class dynamics,

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<v Speaker 1>and just an odd book overall. I hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>email fis all of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for your next episode. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>just joined by the one the only. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Clara Morris looking diving in stripes.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at her today.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I didn't expect it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, trying to get some new clothes to fit in

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<v Speaker 2>my new ruined body.

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<v Speaker 1>I was recently telling Sabrina how ruined my body is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, really kind of going into detail

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<v Speaker 1>in the way I probably didn't need to. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she and our friend Andrew just kind of like stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew's like, I'm sorry, I don't I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to stare at your breasts. Just you keep talking about them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, yeah, I no, yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understuddenly I understand how people could like hold

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<v Speaker 3>a pencil under their sagging breast, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm saying it wasn't always like that. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't always like that.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it seems normal now, like of course you'd

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<v Speaker 2>put a pencil there where?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? All right, Well, so we just found out

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<v Speaker 3>Noah recommended The Paris Apartment by Lucy Foley. So how

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<v Speaker 3>did you guys read it? How'd you consume it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? My goodness. So first of all, you should know

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<v Speaker 1>that The Paris Apartment was a pleasure read for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been reading Lucy Foley long before she ever

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<v Speaker 1>came on the Meme book club scene, long before the

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<v Speaker 1>guest List. I found her with Stag Party, loved her then,

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<v Speaker 1>even though she clearly has issues with old friend groups

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that bothers me deeply, It's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That I have.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, did this is? I was like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the freaks. So it's like I knew

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy Foley's coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it right from the library. It was said

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<v Speaker 1>it new fiction right on the side new fick.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this because of she did like an Ireland one. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Sarah like.

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<v Speaker 1>She No, she did Ireland. That was the book that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was the guest list that we bought the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding on the Irish Isle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Lucy is returning to the cast, which is

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<v Speaker 1>never great for an I never want to come back

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<v Speaker 1>a second time.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but here we are here she is so

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<v Speaker 3>so then I guess the question remains, how did you

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<v Speaker 3>read it.

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<v Speaker 1>From the library like a booker audio or you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I guess I do audio books not my

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<v Speaker 1>real life. I do them for this cast what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But in my real life, I take time.

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<v Speaker 1>I save her. I read a real book, I turned

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<v Speaker 1>the little pages, I look at the cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay, it's just a real book.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I book I did an audiobook. But

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<v Speaker 3>I also just feel like I don't remember, since this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't going to be as fresh for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting for anyone that's crazy you don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she took the turn as if it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, why don't you have me go while

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<v Speaker 2>you look it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Thoughts together. It was an audio book. I had the

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<v Speaker 2>audible you know subscription going already from the season the

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<v Speaker 2>you know sunk costs fallacy. I think I'm using that correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I'm paying paid for it, might as well keep

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<v Speaker 2>fucking paying for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I realized I found it. I did do an audiobook.

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<v Speaker 3>I did it from the l A Public Library, which

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<v Speaker 3>I have for you. Uh. I should not have a

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<v Speaker 3>card too, but I pretended to be my sister in

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<v Speaker 3>law so that I could get access to the LA

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<v Speaker 3>Public Library.

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<v Speaker 1>This is insane because here's the thing. They both have

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<v Speaker 1>the same name, law the same name. So I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>together that you must have posed your sister in law

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<v Speaker 1>and like shown up at the library with your ID

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<v Speaker 1>and been like, I lost my card and I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to issue me a new once.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they let me kill out the form and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but they only gave me a temporary one and they

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<v Speaker 3>said we'll send it to your address, which, of course

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<v Speaker 3>I gave them my sister in law's address. So then

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<v Speaker 3>I had to keep asking her if she received, if

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<v Speaker 3>she received any.

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<v Speaker 1>Stole her identity and then he like followed up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she did and I didn't go get it

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<v Speaker 3>in time. I didn't realize that they then made you

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<v Speaker 3>you had to do another step to confirm your identity

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<v Speaker 3>based on something they send you in the mail. So

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<v Speaker 3>I so I took too long to go get it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I had to go back and restart this

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<v Speaker 3>huge weighting. But we got it. We're good now. I

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<v Speaker 3>am the other Sarah Bird.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really horrifying abuse of the library, which only

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<v Speaker 1>tries to do nice things for people.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to like, did you have to like take

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<v Speaker 2>one of her like utility bills to be like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, okay, because they send it. They send you

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<v Speaker 3>something the mail, which is like a code or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have to send that coach to email.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't realize there wasn't it going to be

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<v Speaker 3>another step.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably like.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to show them your ID with your driver's license

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, this is my old address. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>live there. Like the series of lies you went through

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<v Speaker 1>so insane.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because there's more the book available.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they had more LA They have it more

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<v Speaker 3>than my the Glendale So I had to huh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had to get it. You know, what's done's done.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to uh, and then it's not that I

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<v Speaker 3>did a bad pointing. Now we're good. Now we're good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>now we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>We read the pit that you forgot that whole saga about, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did I read it? Maybe it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>regular audiobook, no identity.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, all right, so I guess now that

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<v Speaker 3>we know that Johnna gibbers about the book, what did

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<v Speaker 3>we land on for john Remember what's your literation?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's like Johnna's jack. Wow, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>short summary. I just need one person, and I think Clara.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think Sarah would be the best for this.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry, it's excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I studied Spanish.

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<v Speaker 3>I studied French, and I'll still butcher it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>will try.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's you'll kind of see what kind of French

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<v Speaker 3>I think, think, oh good, my kind of French. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do that it Sacra Blue, WEEWI I

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<v Speaker 3>am ze Paris apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I am elegant, I am chic. My bones are

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<v Speaker 4>made of secrets. Inside these walls are many characters, all

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<v Speaker 4>suspects in the murder. Maybe sacrab Blue, Jess as half

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<v Speaker 4>brother Ben and oh a Nah. Everyone loves Ben or

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with him, but as a friend the lover and

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<v Speaker 4>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he even.

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<v Speaker 1>Monte the attention.

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<v Speaker 3>One of one of your best.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not much in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why did you from the perspective of the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's hard because buildings aren't necessarily smart.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have morons.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Steel. Like they're pretty self absorbed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, builds are made of secrets. Is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And the apartment, the building is the main character.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, so it's the Paris apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think like the building did mention one name,

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of I sort of expected of my buildings. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>at least know me. That's kind of your relationship, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I noticed our walls like were like dinged up

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<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking I was a genius, but also

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<v Speaker 1>back before it was the right color.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, okay, anything would be.

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<v Speaker 3>At all.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're putting it on you you're seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the right shade of white, but you're like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Wet when it dries, Yeah, I guess it's wet. It's tricky.

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<v Speaker 3>So many whites, so many shades of white. Learned that

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like the paint better than the smudges?

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<v Speaker 1>Good question, Yes, I actually do I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it comes with an insane story, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>I got it back out there. It was a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like had to like wash their like brushes,

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<v Speaker 1>equipment and stuff too, to be like because they like

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't even use your own brushes.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my own brush, but they had it was

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<v Speaker 3>Okay okay, and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Not working because it was a sadd well that's.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I'm sure all their stuff was like kind

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<v Speaker 1>but like probably like what what are they going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Knock on doors and be like excuse me? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>wash our paint?

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<v Speaker 3>Ray?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, but I got away with it,

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<v Speaker 1>that there are these clear marks on the water in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong color paint. And then I looked down at

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<v Speaker 1>Willow and he had a white streak, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I was like, how would they ever know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I like look down to my dog cover.

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<v Speaker 3>They definitely, they definitely clocked that and they know what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sort of taken aback by the boldness.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it is shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>If I sort of think of it as like a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a manic episode, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Crime is victimless. I'm not like.

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<v Speaker 2>About just a little bit of pain just doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It like I'm like belonging to the building, building anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>that comes with it. Sure, it was high and like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also trying to sort of daughter took a nap,

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<v Speaker 1>like and she like sometimes naps for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was a crazy oh done, really crazy done done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I imagine was playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't you did it? Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Well now it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway the parents apartment, you guys. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I should talk about I would like to provide a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a summary for real though basically

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<v Speaker 1>you have Jess is are just just quickly before I

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<v Speaker 1>get into like a little bit more about the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Jess is a British person because Lucy Foley is British,

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<v Speaker 1>so she writes it she knows. And she goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Paris to visit her half brother Ben, and they've been

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a strange since childhood. And she shows up

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<v Speaker 1>at his apartment building and oh my god, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in his apartment, which is weird because they have plans

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<v Speaker 1>to meet. And then the story then just takes place

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<v Speaker 1>inside that apartment building and we start to meet these

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<v Speaker 1>other characters, and there's a question of like, what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Ben? Has he been murdered? There's a big bloodstain

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor. Every character in the whole building is

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<v Speaker 1>super suspicious and creepy, and it seems like they're all

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with Ben, even his best friend. So it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>her investigation then of where did Ben go?

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<v Speaker 3>Do that? Right? Yeah? Where did go?

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<v Speaker 1>Where? Where be Ben? Okay? So the book, Oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>wine selection, I didn't do one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, usually you can spin some some bullshit, but Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of alcohol related to Paris. Should should

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<v Speaker 3>you try any v? No? Okay? What is that go

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<v Speaker 3>with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Ale wife Brewing Queens, New York? A sunnyside blonde left

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<v Speaker 1>in my fridge?

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody blond? Was anybody blonde?

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<v Speaker 1>Was anyone blonde in the whole book? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so specifically Queen's News.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was really rainy. It wasn't even sunny blond.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he thanks Clara.

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<v Speaker 3>This is inspired by anything, all right? Sure I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, maybe he was.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why it was so surprising that he was French.

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<v Speaker 2>In the French family with the dark haired people, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would fail in Paris so hard as a human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you basing that on this book?

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<v Speaker 1>This book? And just like what I know of French people,

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<v Speaker 1>like they just seem like they're kind of a classier.

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<v Speaker 3>Better intimidating perhaps, Yes, give.

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<v Speaker 1>Me a little bit about this book. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty twenty two New York Times bestseller. Numero uno.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The book was named one of the most anticipated books

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<v Speaker 1>of the year by Goodreads, which you know what that means. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say this, John, but I noticed you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't link to that New York Times bestseller.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, it is a bestseller. I looked, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the listing myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, okay, so we have to trust your memory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because you didn't link to it. But that was just haste.

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<v Speaker 3>Not it was haste not Given what's happened earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the season, I would have thought you would have wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have it, what be double checked and find out we're

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<v Speaker 1>fucking wrong again? I don't think so. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>move on?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Good keep going?

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<v Speaker 1>It was called a quote good bet read another strike

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<v Speaker 1>against it in twenty twenty two. Basically, I guess immediately

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<v Speaker 1>Pump Publication three thousand Pictures, a division of Sony, purchased

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<v Speaker 1>the film rights, and I just read an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy Foley April twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. It's now

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<v Speaker 1>been shifted to a TV project instead of films, so

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's still happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe so they're just make it last longer. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, I don't know that there's enough here

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<v Speaker 1>to be I think she might have said something like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a big fan of only murders in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the American version of this very story. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're different. But I found out from a Goodreads reviewer

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<v Speaker 1>that this kind of book is called a locked Room Mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was really cool and at first, I

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<v Speaker 1>wondered if that was because it was all set in

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<v Speaker 1>this apartment building for the most part. She does leave

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<v Speaker 1>it occasionally, but it is mostly set in this apartment building.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found out a locked room mystery is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of crime where the crime in question, typically murder,

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<v Speaker 1>is committed in what appears to be a locked room,

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<v Speaker 1>where the perpetrator would not be able to enter the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene, commit the crime, and leave undetected.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a cool I'm confused because, oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give away the twist or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to go into the twist. Sorry, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. You're right, there was there is a murder.

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<v Speaker 1>But throughout the book you are assuming that Ben was

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<v Speaker 1>murdered in his right.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I don't know that it was impossible for

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<v Speaker 3>the perpetrator to enter the crime scene because we'd ever

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<v Speaker 3>like see the actual crime till the very end, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't the door locked when Lucy, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the thing where it was like the whole room

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<v Speaker 1>was locked from the inside when Ben went missing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets taken out through a like fire place.

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<v Speaker 3>That must be it all right, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna it's to.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay attention to the details.

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<v Speaker 3>I might not remember. But okay, okay, all right, keep looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna defend this nameless good reader to the death. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The author Lucy Fuley, I'm sure we got into this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was an editor at a publishing company before.

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<v Speaker 2>This convenient awfully convened.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like cheating, but okay, fine, she says herself.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to writing through a love of reading. I

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<v Speaker 1>previously worked with I previously worked with books as a

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<v Speaker 1>fiction editor, a literary agent, a bookseller, to literary Scout,

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<v Speaker 1>literary Scout. It's so funny to me to phrase that, is,

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<v Speaker 1>I previously worked in books with books.

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<v Speaker 3>In this like books is like a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a famous movie star. She I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know this or I didn't remember it. She wrote three

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<v Speaker 1>historical fiction novels before she wrote the thrillers, which she

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<v Speaker 1>said has credited like those. I think that's cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it like also is a credit to her

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<v Speaker 1>longevity a little bit. Like she said she didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>as much pressure to follow up her first hit because

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I already had all these failures and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like an overnight success, Like I didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>come out of the gate with this incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>How old is she? How old?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like when did she fit big? I guess with

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<v Speaker 3>guest we always do like to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she was born in nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I like that age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she like that birth year currently thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and the guest List was published in twenty twenty, so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, and she wrote, Remember she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>three books before that, three whole books before that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, that's how some people want to spend their

433
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<v Speaker 2>lives writing books.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Fine, She's an Agatha Christie fan. She also likes cats

435
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<v Speaker 1>books and at Amammy Dumplings. Here's a cat's Oh fair.

436
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I was ignoring that, I mean, but you know it's fine.

437
00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's my issue with Lucy Foley. I guess like I

438
00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 1>always like to dig to find like a weird interview

439
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>from the author, just like something off putting they've said

440
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>something in their Instagram that we can like ridicule, you know,

441
00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 1>or or you know. What often happens is I fall

442
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>in love with them in their Instagram because they have

443
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<v Speaker 1>a picture of a dog they met one time. They're

444
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<v Speaker 1>such a good person, which.

445
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Is and.

446
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Lucy fully has like nothing that's like even worth commenting

447
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 1>on in any of her interviews, you know what I mean,

448
00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Like everything's so just like good answer neutral that I'm

449
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>almost annoyed about it.

450
00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, she worked in publishing, right, so maybe she

451
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.200
<v Speaker 2>like knows how to do an interview that is not

452
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.240
<v Speaker 2>going to get y killed.

453
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

454
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it's almost like she prepared in every way to

455
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 1>be on this podcast and was like, I'm gonna give

456
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<v Speaker 1>them nothing, all right.

457
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 3>I guess we'll just have to make fun of the book.

458
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fine, I like, uh huh right yeah, and then

459
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have characters written down, and I do

460
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<v Speaker 1>have one kind of fun little answer as the author

461
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>twist on answers twisty. Yeah, it is so early to

462
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 1>sweet tease. But yeah, I don't know. We can just

463
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.759
<v Speaker 1>get into the book if you if you do it

464
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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see if I have wrote any notes for it,

466
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<v Speaker 3>or if it's going to be all from top of noggin.

467
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going nogin. That's that's the brit.

468
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<v Speaker 3>It looks like I did it is it is going

469
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<v Speaker 3>to be knocking for me. Uh what maybe I did

470
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<v Speaker 3>I not even maybe I highlighted things. I'm just sorry.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll we could talk about it.

472
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So let her spin, let her cook.

473
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<v Speaker 2>We're from the point of view cook, We're from the

474
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:28.799
<v Speaker 2>point of view of Jess. And it's her half brother Ben, right,

475
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 2>and I guess an interesting thing about their childhood is

476
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that they were orphans and then he was adopted and

477
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't. But there's still all each other have now

478
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 2>seems it.

479
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 3>Seems yeah, and he got adopted by rich family and

480
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:51.039
<v Speaker 3>she did it. And I feel like there was like

481
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 3>alluding to her past, but I don't remember ever hearing

482
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 3>like I was like, oh, was she abused or something?

483
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 3>But do we ever find out this is where I

484
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:02.240
<v Speaker 3>don't or.

485
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Did I blase that she found the mom who had

486
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>killed herself.

487
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Well that like fat like discovered the body of Yes.

488
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 3>So that and that's their actual mom between Ben, yes,

489
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 3>and so they're not. So she is in the beginning

490
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 3>of the book, she is it's like really late at night,

491
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 3>she's showing up at Paris. She stuck like her brother,

492
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:36.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's basically he's wealthier, than her. She's using him.

493
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Of the entryway of the building, like just like this

494
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>like wrought iron gate, really cool front door, you know,

495
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like something she didn't usually experience in her own life.

496
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Right, And so she's not he's not letting her in.

497
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 3>So she used to do a few sneakies to get

498
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<v Speaker 3>through to get into the apartment, which.

499
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<v Speaker 1>I would have had no problem doing, you guys.

500
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but her brother, like everything, her brother's stuff

501
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:14.160
<v Speaker 3>is all there, which is now which is bad bad

502
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 3>on the killer, Like why wouldn't you've taken his like

503
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:23.240
<v Speaker 3>wallet and keys? Why did they not do that?

504
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, just to create the suspicion that he was out

505
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah in the town.

506
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Seems obvious.

507
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>They didn't know what your name was coming, so they

508
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, Like yeah, I probably thought that just even exists. Yeah,

509
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they thought they had lots of time.

510
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Like me with the pain. It's like they're not coming

511
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>out on a Saturday, I guess what. Yes, we are

512
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<v Speaker 1>in ten minutes.

513
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, that's fair. I accept that. But yeah,

514
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 3>so so it's basically just we're following her trying to

515
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 3>figure out what's going on with their brother. But she's

516
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 3>also the other thing with jess Is. She like rushed

517
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>leaving her job and life because she was working at

518
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 3>a bar and the guy hit on her and I

519
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 3>don't even remember what she did to him, but something

520
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.920
<v Speaker 3>where she was like, I don't sell the police she

521
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>stole from him, and so she didn't want to go

522
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 3>to the police because she doesn't want the police looking

523
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 3>into her. So she's trying to do some investigation without

524
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>getting the police involved, which always goes well.

525
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And then she does get the police involved because Ben's

526
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 2>friend in the apartment building is like, I'll help you

527
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 2>out talk in French. She doesn't know French. Yeah, and

528
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 2>he sort of takes over and is in charge, and

529
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>that's when you realize Ben Nick is his name. Nick

530
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is bad because it's very obvious. It's not told to you.

531
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 2>We're not supposed to figure it out.

532
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>But they're kind of they're kind of they're kind of

533
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>like flirting a lot. There's like a moment when they

534
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 3>almost kissed. This happens, yes, I'm not saying yes, okay,

535
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 3>which is weird because we find out that Nick, like

536
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 3>who is Ben's old college friend and helped him get

537
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 3>this apartment in Paris, that he kind of like blew.

538
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>He was kind of like had a guessing the crush

539
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 3>it Ben, he I think there's a lot of reference

540
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 3>to like, oh, what they did in Amsterdam. They can't

541
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>tell anyone is what they did in Amster And it's

542
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 3>just that he blew him. Is that was that? It? Okay?

543
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 3>It just seems like weird to me because I'm like,

544
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>what are we in? You know, yeah, nineteen ninety I don't.

545
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Know there was murdered Amsterdam.

546
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. But anyway, so then I was like, this

547
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 3>is weird. Are you just like into the half sister

548
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>just because you're in you were into the brother and

549
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 3>you're like, this is as close as I can get.

550
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And there's all this allusion to Nick's father being a

551
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>bad guy. Yeah, and seems like his big issue was

552
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>he like, at his sixteenth birthday or something, his present

553
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 2>was a prostitute. That's right, yes, and so that's our first.

554
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Crime, not good crimes.

555
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 3>A lot of different but that and he didn't like

556
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 3>it because he's not because he's straight. Yeah, but still

557
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>could be a thing. Still was rooting for Nick or

558
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 3>sorry Ben, rooting Nick, Nick and Jess to get together.

559
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Was rooting for them.

560
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 1>For them because I knew that Nick was definitely lying

561
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 1>to the police about jess brothers Ben's disappearing.

562
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 3>She's she's not perfect, perfect.

563
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Surefect sure seems a little out of nowhere for me,

564
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 2>even for just to be thinking about that when your

565
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 2>brother's missing and you're like going straight.

566
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 3>From but when are raised, we're so worried, we're scared, like, oh,

567
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 3>and now we're making out like it happens. Guys, it happens.

568
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>In the books we read, but I don't think it happens,

569
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, And the books are they're always just like

570
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna die tonight by having to fight each other

571
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in this cage match.

572
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, first, but fighting and fucking are so close?

573
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Are they?

574
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Who says that the books the books?

575
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Again? Okay, anyway, it didn't work out for them, sadly.

576
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>There was another Who's the other man?

577
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>The other man is Anton Antoine.

578
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were this Wait, is that the guy

579
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>he worked for and was like pitching something to.

580
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Is someone else who lives in the building. He's like

581
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 2>drunk and.

582
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Loud and I don't remember him. The building is you.

583
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense because here's the thing. Lucy fully introduced

584
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>so many characters into this building and there are a

585
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are really similar, and Anton is literally

586
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 1>his character is just like I'm an alcoholic. And it's

587
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 1>to the point where we don't even get any chapters

588
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>from his POV because I guess all he would say

589
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm a new grador.

590
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I also thought Nick the old Ben's whole college friend,

591
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>who is you know we should be suspicious of. I

592
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 3>thought he was the same person as the Ben's editor

593
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 3>for a while, who I think is Like I guess

594
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 3>that also confused me.

595
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 1>We've said that Ben is a journalist who's in Paris, who.

596
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Lucy does eventually hook up with.

597
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Sorry, sorry, but Ben is

598
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a journalist and he's about to crack a big story.

599
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>So there is a little bit of intrigue around, like

600
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 1>is this joy?

601
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>He's why he went right, And like any good journalist does,

602
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>all that he told this editor was that it's really good.

603
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's going to be really good. I'm not

604
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>going to give you any information at a time.

605
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's all the only pitch I need. I

606
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>believe it was freelance. Yeah, it wasn't like they knew

607
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>him very well.

608
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was silly that he wouldn't have said anything

609
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 3>but sure, okay, but.

610
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Fine, but fine, fine ruins the book. If he said

611
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>what the article, then that is a proper love interest

612
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>for Jess. Now, this editor who kind of gets in

613
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 2>on the mystery, Yeah it has been, He wonders, this

614
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>will make a good story, a little insuld into Jess

615
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to the extent that, oh, yeah, I remember this.

616
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Why did she get upset about it?

617
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>She got so upset that then she ran away into

618
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 2>a big protest and got maced.

619
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Like the yeah, why I don't know why she was

620
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 3>upset about it. Honestly, I'm like, uh, he had he

621
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>can have ulterior ulterior motives and still like he's you know,

622
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not his brother, he's not going to be as like.

623
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>It'd be weird if he was as.

624
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Like, and he's like investing in when you are, who's

625
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>helping to be so upset that you run away in

626
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>a strange city where you don't know where you are.

627
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like, store in the back of your head and

628
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>let him help you get home because you don't know

629
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 2>where you are, right.

630
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 3>But I also think she should have it wasn't that

631
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>big of an ideot and then upset about.

632
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Him quite confusing at that point in the book because

633
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>it was like crooked police were coming after them, but

634
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>also they were in the middle of some unnamed protest.

635
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Remember were coming Oh yeah.

636
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't think we needed the background

637
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 2>of protests, right, just sort of confusing me.

638
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I assume the French police are very corrupt. Yeah, yeah,

639
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 1>they're a group to fear.

640
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>So yeah. Sophie as another character who was an older

641
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 3>woman who looks there was a lot of pov from her.

642
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 3>I did at the beginning enjoy the switching p o

643
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>vs because it was I'll say that, like because at

644
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 3>the beginning the way you're like seeing Jess arrive and

645
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 3>you're seeing all these people notice her or notice the sounds, and.

646
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It helped if you are like not super paying attention, because.

647
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were all again and again and.

648
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Again, right if you were paying attention.

649
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>But it was so for me it worked at the

650
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>beginning that like seeing because we're like, you know, getting

651
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of the same series of events from different angles.

652
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 3>But then like after that, I was like, this is

653
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 3>it just was confusing after that, I think, yeah, switching.

654
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Especially trying to picture parts of the building with its

655
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 2>multiple secret passageways or whatever the fuck it's like dumb

656
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>waiters that turned into a secret basement or something like.

657
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she had a drawing, but I did an audiobook.

658
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Really cool. So Sophie's the one that had the really

659
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>cool wine cave downstairs too, right with the old like

660
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 1>thousand year old bottles of wine.

661
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Hey, that was also in what was that old person's

662
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 3>spy book we did just a few weeks.

663
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had wine cave, came into came in handy

664
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 2>for a murder.

665
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he.

666
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Would love to have a wine cave. I have a

667
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>wine pile next to my track.

668
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Can I feel like I could also keep drinks next

669
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>to the tread.

670
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. I don't like it, but it's

671
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the only place that we have room.

672
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Who were we? Who were the like red herrings? Like

673
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 3>who are we supposed to suspect for a while, because

674
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I had no I didn't suspect anyone

675
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>until it was the killer And this is happening, And so.

676
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I think memispect MEMI because she is drawing Ben in

677
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the nude from her like apartment.

678
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, me, Me's the young woman. She's kind of like

679
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with him. And then oh, she has paintings where

680
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 3>she like xed out his eyes.

681
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it seems like she's in love with him and

682
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>was like a scorned.

683
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I totally forgot about that hole.

684
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 2>And she side plot had something where like she got

685
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 2>kicked out of school for painting a teacher or something

686
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>in a similar way.

687
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I guess she was weird, but it didn't seem like

688
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>that weird to me. I don't know.

689
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And she was also described as so like slight that

690
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how could she kill this yeah hunk? Then

691
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone is a.

692
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Love and so they set it up I guess so

693
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 3>that you're like Mimi finds out that Ben, the missing Ben,

694
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 3>was having an affair with her mother, who is Sophie.

695
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, the older woman in the apartment with

696
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the wine cave.

697
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 2>So that's a bit of a twist, is that all

698
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 2>these people except for Ben who live there are related.

699
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>They're one family, which you don't know at the very beginning,

700
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 3>just feels like, oh, this is an old couple, and

701
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 3>then this is me MEI lives with her a friend

702
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>who they don't seem like very good friends really, and yeah, anyway, so.

703
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>They all live in this you know, Paris apartment. So

704
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>immediately I'm like, imagine how wealthy this family is that

705
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 1>that much real estate?

706
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 3>They all the entire place, the whole building.

707
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, each each of the three children has their own apartment.

708
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>It kind of feels like it's just a house, like

709
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a big house. They have an extra kitchens.

710
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But you're probably like, how does Ben fit in all this?

711
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Then?

712
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>All these people are brothers and sisters with a mommy?

713
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Is Ben living here?

714
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing here? Well, listeners, that's the twist Ben, I.

715
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Guess, such as that they're all related.

716
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was like bdy twist number one. Uh oh,

717
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Ben's related to you know, he's only Jess his half brother. Well,

718
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>guess what, he's also their half brother?

719
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Right what?

720
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that was that true because wait, I

721
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

722
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, since I read the.

723
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Book, I don't think Ben's there. His friends with me

724
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 2>from college and because he wants to investigate this family

725
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>because they have that line. But there's something fishy about that.

726
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 3>He has, like the prostitute business, the all those prostitutes,

727
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 3>which is how he came.

728
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>The mother died and Jess.

729
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 3>No, that's how the the stepmother, the Sophie, she was

730
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>a prostitute. That and that and then Mimi was the

731
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 3>baby of a dead prostitute that they.

732
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they pretended right and is notated.

733
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Well the way you were saying it, I was like

734
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 3>wondering where you were going.

735
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I was to be like, I really there to investigate this.

736
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I did refresh on the book. Actually I really did.

737
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 1>And I mean maybe no, no, I think I'm not.

738
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Look I definitely mis stuff. But that's that would have

739
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 3>been pretty I think that would have been also like

740
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 3>why because I don't Yeah, right, But that's not the

741
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>real I think the real the big, real twist is

742
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>that Ben is alive.

743
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, he had lost a lot of blood.

744
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>He was being kept by Sophie right like up in

745
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:21.119
<v Speaker 3>the attic or some shit. And but there was a

746
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 3>dead body, which again was like I hadn't we hadn't seen.

747
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not like we were. The body was seen or

748
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 3>presented to us in some way early in the book.

749
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 2>No, Like it was confusing. That was confusing the other characters.

750
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>They were like what Nick was like, what Ben's alive?

751
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 3>My big son. Nick thought he was helping his family

752
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 3>hide the fact that Ben was murdered by Mimi. But

753
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:59.119
<v Speaker 3>really me, me and Sophie murdered that their dad and husband.

754
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 2>So and then let's lay it out not in the

755
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 2>order of the book.

756
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, go ahead, go So.

757
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Ben reveals or is about to reveal his draft on

758
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>his computer that he is that the wine company is

759
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>really prostitution and very illegal, very bad. Then Mimi finds

760
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it because she's obsessed with him and she likes to

761
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 2>hang out in his apartment when he's not there, I guess,

762
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and she sends it to Nick, who sends it to

763
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the dad, who's a creep. Then the dad is basically

764
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 2>in the process of murdering Ben, and Mimi sees it

765
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 2>through the window and goes and kills the dad because.

766
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>She still loves Ben.

767
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:48.039
<v Speaker 2>She loves Then the mom is like, let's okay, Ben's alive,

768
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna survive this. Let's put him in the attic

769
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>to stay alive. Wrap up your dad in a sheet,

770
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and get your big strong brothers to bury him. And

771
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I don't remember remember why.

772
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember why.

773
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just one line where Sophie the mom

774
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, they would only help if they thought it

775
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>was Ben. Was like the explanation which I don't know

776
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 2>if it's truly. Both seem to have complicated relationships with

777
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 2>their father.

778
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems like they may have been okay if

779
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 3>she was like, we're gonna split the money from his

780
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 3>yeah death, they I feel like they would have done it,

781
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 3>but instead she was like, let me make this complicated

782
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 3>by lying and then also keeping instead of telling Ben

783
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 3>to get out here or like do something, be like

784
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 3>I to keep him prisoner. Just seemed crazy. Yeah, where

785
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it was like their character wasn't crazy before, but now

786
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 3>they're crazy.

787
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 2>So the brothers think that the little sister killed Ben.

788
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate?

789
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

790
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then and she thinks that they'll help for

791
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 2>some reason, even they're not like blood related to the

792
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>little sister. It's like a.

793
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Step yeah, but they still think family. It's family. And

794
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 3>she pretends to be the dad too.

795
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 2>It was alive, and that the dad is like do this.

796
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're getting like texts or something from the dad,

797
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 3>but it's really Sophie who's so clever. It was for

798
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 3>reason complication for that and wow, it was just I

799
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't care when they got to this. I did not

800
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.320
<v Speaker 3>care at all. That's how I felt about it.

801
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like yeah, it was like too late. If you

802
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>had too late, you already lost me.

803
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gone. I don't care. Also think so

804
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 3>much about I feel like Jess is the main character,

805
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 3>but so much of it was like about this family

806
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 3>who I didn't care about or like that. It was

807
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 3>almost disappointing, like I would have rather the mystery somehow

808
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 3>become personal with Jess or I don't know, somehow. The

809
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>only thing Jess did was like such a character because

810
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 3>at some point she talked to one of the prostitutes

811
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>and she was like, oh, my brother Ben is going

812
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 3>to write when he writes this article, they're going to

813
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 3>shut down this prostitution ring, and those poor prostitutes, well,

814
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to make sure that Sophie sends the money.

815
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 3>And that was it.

816
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>That was part of like the hesitance to publish the article.

817
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, then, what were these poor prostitutes do

818
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>when we revealed it there, I'm like.

819
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 1>What's what's their lives are going to change so much?

820
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 3>And there was like the watchwoman, the or the oh

821
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 3>totally forgot about the whole thing was this is a

822
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 3>big yeah, So why was she keeping why was she

823
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 3>keeping secrets?

824
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>The concierge was she was not tex.

825
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 3>She was because kind of her daughter was one of

826
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 3>the prostitutes who had the baby. So she is technically

827
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Mimi's true grandmother, but Mamie does not know that.

828
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>And the story of the that dead prostitute was she

829
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 2>went to Paris to be a dancer and they told

830
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>her she would be a dancer, but then they made

831
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.760
<v Speaker 2>her be a prostitute and she was pregnant. She and

832
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 2>she died before the grandmother came to help her with

833
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the pregnancy. And then somehow she got a job.

834
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>As a.

835
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And then she sticks around watching and really helping her granddaughter,

836
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>but looking at her, and she warns just in a

837
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 2>way where she doesn't just I feel like if you

838
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 2>had just told just what happened, these people being so

839
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:56.039
<v Speaker 2>cryptic and weird about it. If you're warning her, don't

840
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>you explain what the danger is?

841
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm that apartment building. Too many secret places for

842
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 3>people to come spy and look looking at you like

843
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of creepy.

844
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.159
<v Speaker 2>It was too I couldn't picture it for like, and

845
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there were multiple like two helloween Yeah,

846
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

847
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like roof feed. But then it was by someone

848
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 3>who roofed her. I don't even remember. I just remember it.

849
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Was like, we don't know who rooffeeder, but a nice

850
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 2>guy like put bed or something.

851
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:28.119
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

852
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like Sophie that oh I think later, No, no,

853
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it was me.

854
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it was me meih roofie her, but she

855
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 3>at the time thought it was some guy. But the

856
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 3>guy actually right right?

857
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 2>But then was there a part that was like Memei's

858
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>imagines or were they talking about an old Halloween party

859
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:47.760
<v Speaker 2>where Ben was.

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00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that was It was like it was

861
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 3>her flashback because sometimes they okay, well that was too

862
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.599
<v Speaker 3>many basement parties. I guess. I'm like, Okay, I can't

863
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 3>imagine this was the space I look.

864
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Like because it was supposed to be so out of

865
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>character for me, me to be dressing up for a

866
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Halloween party when she's yeah, and then she goes she

867
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 2>did like a baby is supposed to be so out

868
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 2>of character, but she.

869
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 3>And then she goes and buys lingerie and her dad

870
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>calls her a whore or I don't even know what

871
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 3>was I mean it was that was all fucked up.

872
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 3>The way she was like nineteen, It's like, yeah, let

873
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 3>her live, I guess, kill him and move on.

874
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>She did, all right.

875
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where I what are some good quotes

876
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.199
<v Speaker 3>from this? Are there? Any? Oh?

877
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I wrote down one which was he smiles, but it

878
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't reach his eyes. Love one of those? Love A

879
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 1>good one of those. You know you're in a great book.

880
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 3>It's so hard to do that though, for to smile,

881
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.159
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure, yeah, it's tell you what a.

882
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Smile, Clara can do it.

883
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's take that's probably because the compliment.

884
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Claren is so good. Let's take pictures of ourselves in

885
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the next week and we'll post them to Patreon and

886
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.519
<v Speaker 1>ask everybody else to too. And it's like, whoever has

887
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the best smile to reach their eyes?

888
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

889
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Your enthusiasm?

890
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Sorry to see if I had anything good?

891
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think, oh uh, John, did you use GPT

892
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to write some of the outline because the characters each

893
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>have like a really long description.

894
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 3>No.

895
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I pulled the character descriptions from bits and places online,

896
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 1>just like as reminders of like who everybody was, but

897
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 1>they're actually cobbled together.

898
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Got you, got you?

899
00:49:58.119 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha?

900
00:49:58.480 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Sorry for the accusation.

901
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow do you think chat GPT came up? With uh

902
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 1>antoine alcoholic neighbor just drunk. No, not that one.

903
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Nimi a young woman who wants to be part of

904
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 2>something exciting and social, but is treated as a child

905
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and remains emotionally immature. I thought, I thought.

906
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 1>That was beautiful. Yeah, I understand that. Oh there is

907
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>an am dash here too. Hey maybe somebody else's GPT.

908
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited about this answer is the only thing, okay,

909
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>because it's something new.

910
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is new, so we can go to that

911
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>for a minute. I was one of the places I

912
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 1>was reading about the Paris apartment was this place called

913
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>shelf reflection dot com and it's like a book blog. Okay,

914
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 1>shelf reflection dot com and uh I I was reading

915
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this woman's review and then at the very bottom it

916
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 1>said content advisory many many F words, S words, C words,

917
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, sexual content, multiple LGBTQ characters. And I was like, okay,

918
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll put that. Then I was like, wait a second,

919
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 1>content advisory multiple. I don't know persons, so I instantly

920
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I want to know more about this person.

921
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 1>So I want you guys, the answer is the author

922
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:40.679
<v Speaker 1>is just basically tell me about yourself and whoever is

923
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the closest wins like, I want you to tell me

924
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>who you are about about the blog author? Yeah, who

925
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you are, where you live, what your interests are? Okay,

926
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 1>because I instantly clicked on about me and I know

927
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the answer to these things. So you are the author

928
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of shelf reflection dot com and you reviewed this book

929
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and you had very mixed and nuanced thoughts about it,

930
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and then at the very end you put a content

931
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>advisory that there were a lot of lgbt Q characters

932
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 1>in this book. Tell me about yourself.

933
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Hi, my name is Karen. Let's see. I live in

934
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's go with Ohio, and I'm on my You just

935
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 2>caught me on my way to a church function and

936
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing some uh fried chicken that I picked up

937
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>at the store. And i'm coming from actually, let me

938
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 2>see where am I coming from? Oh it was my

939
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>son's football game. As you can see, I have this

940
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>cold box here with orange slices.

941
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:51.679
<v Speaker 3>And.

942
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so nice to meet you, Karen.

943
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 2>And you as well, assuming you live in where? New

944
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 2>York City?

945
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 1>New York City? Yes, I live in Brooklyn.

946
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you all right, sweetheart?

947
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm thank you. Yes, Having that reaction about where

948
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I live every time makes me feel angry at.

949
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>You every time.

950
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Every time.

951
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, it was wonderful talking with you, I think.

952
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 3>Wait.

953
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's shelf reflection author. Thank you for your review

954
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of The Paris Apartment by Lucy Foley. Now you know,

955
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to take a minute to get.

956
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 3>To know you. Hi. My name is Diane. I live

957
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 3>in Idaho, but yes you can tell from my accent.

958
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not from around there, I guess. And my friend

959
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of, uh the wild one, you know. Me

960
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 3>and the ladies in the neighborhood. Sometimes we do these

961
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 3>stoop sits where we have wine coolers, uh, once the

962
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 3>kids go to bed at seven, and uh, you know,

963
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I like to read books that do have some sexual

964
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 3>content in them, but I always make sure that people

965
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 3>know what they're getting into, because you know, people have

966
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 3>different belief systems and the e and you know I so, yeah,

967
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's about me. I like to roller blade,

968
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I like to snowshoe.

969
00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And different seat to be a depending on.

970
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 3>The season, of course. And I am on my my

971
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 3>little my little daughter, like little daughter Olivia, I am

972
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>on her on the PTO for her school of course.

973
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, that's just lovely. I guess real quick.

974
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't like gay people. Great.

975
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 1>You know it's really neck and neck on both of you.

976
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

977
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. I may have to come down to.

978
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Karen.

979
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 1>How many children do you have?

980
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you say three?

981
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Three? And well I just mentioned one that doesn't You

982
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:43.039
<v Speaker 3>don't really know how many kids?

983
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 1>What was your name against Diane?

984
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Diane? How many children? Fourteen?

985
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I'll give it to Sarah because she

986
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>said the number four before she said teen. Oh, here's

987
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the bio of this.

988
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I forgot that was who was closest and not just you,

989
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 2>like the kidding me closest without going over.

990
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're getting really intense eye contact in her author

991
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>photo in a way that scares me and her about me.

992
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>My name is Brittany. I am wife to a giant,

993
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>mother to four littles eight and under, living in the

994
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 1>paradise known as Iowa, and devouring books by the minute.

995
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 3>It's weird. We had Ohio, Idaho and it was Iowa.

996
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 3>We were kind of I feel like we were.

997
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You were right there between the two of you, just kidding.

998
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>She's so she's funny, you guys just kidding. Did you

999
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 1>read that last sentence? I have a freaking family and

1000
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:46.559
<v Speaker 1>take care of Most of my minutes are not my own.

1001
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Though my free time is limited by the grace of God,

1002
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I still pound about fifty books a year, heavy on

1003
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the Christian theology, thriller, suspense, y a historical fiction.

1004
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I mentioned kidding me that.

1005
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm also pound pounds pounds them, which sounds like great.

1006
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not reading, you might find me doing artsy

1007
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>things like painting, cross stitching. Diamond we're building.

1008
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And then she says, it's like a little pin kind

1009
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of thing where you like pick up a little sequin essentially.

1010
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 3>And paint by numbers, like when you bedazzle things that.

1011
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it'll be. It'll be like a pink

1012
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 2>by numbers picture. I think at least this is what

1013
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 2>my niece did at one.

1014
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Point, pin diamond.

1015
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Shiny. I it's paint by numbers, but shiny.

1016
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, interesting, I've never heard of this, you're

1017
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 3>I see you're right. Paint by numbers for children, for children?

1018
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what can I find them?

1019
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

1020
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 3>I want to try this really bad. I want to

1021
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 3>do this so fucking bad.

1022
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I do I do legos. Maybe I would enjoy this too.

1023
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 3>It seems like it could be really soon.

1024
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.519
<v Speaker 2>This is going in and unexpected.

1025
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>It seems like if you're relaxing and you could kind.

1026
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Of kind of shut your brain down, don't know, you

1027
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>can think about anything. You're just trying to put a

1028
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 3>little gem dot, a tiny gem dot on a particular place,

1029
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 3>on a spot. Yeah, it seems nice.

1030
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 1>You can you could dry, you can meet at the moon,

1031
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>or you a little swimming in water.

1032
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

1033
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>You could be a white kids and audio coasters.

1034
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to order these right now.

1035
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Edits for the cats. Edit this out. It's embarrassing, all right?

1036
00:58:57.559 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Where were we?

1037
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 2>And John's not even talking anymore because she's.

1038
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Looking to thread but yes, looking at either of.

1039
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Them for acknowledgment of like what I was saying, where

1040
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:14.480
<v Speaker 2>they're both not all right, they're not looking at the

1041
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Sorry Clara.

1042
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>There was a bear swimming in water and it was really.

1043
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Nice again in the paint by numbers but shining color.

1044
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 3>After I've been inspired work on my lego.

1045
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, what's her Let's see what's our

1046
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 2>next thing? Good Reads.

1047
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of here, we got good Reads, we

1048
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.920
<v Speaker 1>got hay Raids, and let's let's call it again. I

1049
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>have a few good reads ready to go.

1050
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I didn't win this.

1051
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:50.360
<v Speaker 3>No, you didn't. Okay.

1052
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>So Terria says, this is not your typical mystery thriller.

1053
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have that many mind blowing, chilling and unexpected

1054
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 1>plot twists. But I was so invested in the family

1055
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 1>drama and all the characters. The ending was a bit

1056
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:05.159
<v Speaker 1>too abrupt.

1057
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 2>That's a five star, five stars.

1058
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I got a good book. I know, then, Michelle,

1059
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the date on this is important. May twenty seven, twenty

1060
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. I've seen so many mixed reviews of this book.

1061
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Why question mark exclamation mark, question mark exclamation mark. I

1062
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 1>loved it. Four of you coming.

1063
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess it could still be yeah we just wait,

1064
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I wait, yeah going.

1065
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.159
<v Speaker 1>And then I really liked this one. Rita Tomas and

1066
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:45.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe she is Italian and her review was Intrigante,

1067
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 1>missterioso cativante, which was fun to read because it just

1068
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 1>is clearly intriguing, mysterious and captivating in another language. Intrigante,

1069
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.159
<v Speaker 1>missterioso cativante.

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<v Speaker 2>Good pronunciation, and so she reading a translation.

1071
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, this book has been translated.

1072
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:13.239
<v Speaker 2>To Maybe the translation was better because they don't feel like, yeah,

1073
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:15.039
<v Speaker 2>the boring book.

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01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:15.400
<v Speaker 3>That I read.

1075
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's Portuguese. By the way, that's not Italian.

1076
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Embarrassing.

1077
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is embarrassing for you.

1078
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 3>For you, I did it so you could.

1079
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I set you up to call me out and set

1080
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you up for a win, and you didn't take it.

1081
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You didn't take the dunk.

1082
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 3>What was the dunk? What did you want to?

1083
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 2>You made a mistake.

1084
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be like, it's Italian. Then you'd be like, no,

1085
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it's Portuguese.

1086
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to make it.

1087
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>To That doesn't make sense.

1088
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 2>We're not your language.

1089
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Because majors over here, it's a nice book club. You both.

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01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that was Sabrina Claire. You're an English major.

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01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're the one who does like books and

1092
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.360
<v Speaker 2>other languages and still studies, like let me just.

1093
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.360
<v Speaker 3>For fun, what I mean, read and watch something in Spanish.

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01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 3>That's what that's that's that's you.

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01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 2>That's what you do. You're the language person.

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01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 1>And also, I actually got my Portuguese to you also

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01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>have a degree in Portuguese.

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01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I forgot.

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01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Actually it was a fraudulary degree in Portuguese. I didn't

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01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.719
<v Speaker 1>even recognize the language.

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01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:33.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, all right, okay, let's keep going with that happened.

1102
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Now we got to do Okay, all hate rights.

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01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. For me, I'm gonna go two.

1104
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Out of five.

1105
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Boring, confusing, but not offensive to me.

1106
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's really mean about fat people in it, though.

1107
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not offensive to me. Ruined body, and maybe it

1108
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.280
<v Speaker 2>should be, but it's not.

1109
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 1>So this book was so unforgett unforgettable. It was so

1110
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:13.559
<v Speaker 1>forgettable when I read it. You might notice I never

1111
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.159
<v Speaker 1>recommended it on the cast. I never talked about it,

1112
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 1>like I had to like reflect my jota. This is

1113
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the second time you read it. For some reason, didn't

1114
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 1>understand that. I feel completely not listening to this entire

1115
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 1>episode you.

1116
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Were saying about. I just thought you like wanted to

1117
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:32.400
<v Speaker 3>read it, and you like got it from the library,

1118
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:34.800
<v Speaker 3>but you didn't actually read it till now. I read it.

1119
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I read it alone in the privacy of okay, and

1120
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you liked never mentioned it to any of you.

1121
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1122
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't really like it, but I didn't really

1123
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 1>hate it. It's just it was nothing, and like I,

1124
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't even remember that. It doesn't end

1125
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 1>with a whole big incest thing where Ben.

1126
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Is child, so like.

1127
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Ben was a child, well remember she thought no, but

1128
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.559
<v Speaker 1>like Mimi was, Oh.

1129
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 3>You're right, that would have been in the blowing. The

1130
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 3>blowing of the penis would have certainly been in had

1131
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 3>been a half.

1132
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Growing, definitely would have been a little bit of incest.

1133
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even remember that this thing.

1134
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I have to dock the money for that.

1135
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So it would have been probably a three. But because

1136
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember that the thing I made up didn't happen,

1137
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be a two.

1138
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 3>There was no incest, gotcha. So the lack of incests

1139
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 3>bumped it from three to two. I'm gonna give this

1140
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:30.719
<v Speaker 3>a three out of five. It was down the middle

1141
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 3>for me. It wasn't like horrible to read. It just

1142
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't that memorable. I liked the beginning. I really did

1143
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:40.559
<v Speaker 3>like the beginning. I was like, Oh, this is gonna

1144
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.920
<v Speaker 3>be fun, and I thought, oh, why is would they

1145
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 3>send this to us? This is gonna be good and

1146
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna enjoy it. But no, Then I kept reading

1147
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Okay, I get it.

1148
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I see.

1149
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, three out of five they're better. What are

1150
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 3>what are these? Locked door mister? What are we calling this?

1151
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Was it a locker room? I'm sure there are better

1152
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 3>locked room mysteries you can read. Unless you really like

1153
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:14.360
<v Speaker 3>daddies who are mean to their gay sons, and maybe

1154
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:15.599
<v Speaker 3>this one's for you, okay.

1155
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Brittany, No, she would prefer that they didn't exist at all. Cool,

1156
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So the hate raids little fucker gonna be a go

1157
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.679
<v Speaker 1>ahead from me to vote for Sarah for uh right

1158
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 1>at the end, and an incredible move cemented her role

1159
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:37.440
<v Speaker 1>as little fucker by not listening to me this entire

1160
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.360
<v Speaker 1>episode that I think this is a pleasure raid pleasure

1161
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:41.480
<v Speaker 1>read years ago.

1162
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.960
<v Speaker 3>This feels like a defense at least a year ago.

1163
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.800
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. It's just real defense. It's offense.

1164
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Mine is Jonah because I didn't win the game, even though.

1165
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.559
<v Speaker 3>I really Yeah, this is why I feel think you

1166
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 3>knew that that was going to happen, So yeah, mine,

1167
01:05:58.039 --> 01:05:59.480
<v Speaker 3>mine's obviously Johanna.

1168
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Why you can do it for the same reason and.

1169
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 3>You know why, Yeah, it could be the same reason.

1170
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 3>But also it's like, because it was really funny that

1171
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:09.719
<v Speaker 3>she was like excited to talk about a twist that

1172
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:10.239
<v Speaker 3>she made.

1173
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Actually that's a good reason, was like, all right, are

1174
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 1>we ready to reveal you guys.

1175
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Also, because she didn't link to the New York Times

1176
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:27.119
<v Speaker 3>bestseller list in her heline, there you go.

1177
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:37.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, I don't have a good book wreck, but

1178
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I do have a little interesting fact for people if

1179
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you want, if you're not sure what to do now

1180
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 1>that the cast is ending, not like forever, just this episode,

1181
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.360
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and look into the Mount Saint Helen's eruption

1182
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and how many people claim that they treated big feet

1183
01:06:55.199 --> 01:07:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that were injured in that eruption. That's a little something. Okay,

1184
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm totally unrelated, but I've really been reading about big

1185
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 1>feet recently, and a lot of paramedics claim they have

1186
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 1>PTSD from treating big feet that were injured in the

1187
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Mount Saint Helen's eruption.

1188
01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Big like large a large foot like big foot. Okay, Okay,

1189
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.079
<v Speaker 3>I didn't there's that agreement in the community if it's

1190
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:21.239
<v Speaker 3>big feet or big foots.

1191
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really seems like.

1192
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I thought you were talking about like there had been

1193
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 3>injuries from it, and but only to people who had

1194
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 3>larger feet that why would that be people with big

1195
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 3>feet were injured at a higher rate. Hmm, and I

1196
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 3>didn't care died.

1197
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.840
<v Speaker 1>St Helen's erupted and no one's talking about it.

1198
01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna move on. Yeah, I gotta have this. Next.

1199
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Our last and final book for the season is The

1200
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.599
<v Speaker 3>rom Commerce by Catherine Center.

1201
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Another repeat offender, Another club.

1202
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so excited for that one. We are Mean book Club.

1203
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 3>You can find us on all the socials. Mean book Club.

1204
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Please check out our patreon. Become a patron. You'll get

1205
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 3>these episodes without any ads. Wouldn't that be lovely? And

1206
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 3>also we will give you bonus stuff bonus. I guess

1207
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 3>we should record a bonus something for them. Huh, we're

1208
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 3>going to give you a real tree. We'll figure it out.

1209
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the bonus will be Sabrina talking about all eight

1210
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:42.680
<v Speaker 3>books this season just eight hours that, you know what?

1211
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.640
<v Speaker 3>That would probably bring some people to the patreon.

1212
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet I've gotten a lot of complaints that there

1213
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:48.520
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been.

1214
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.439
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, my mom my mom asked, She was like,

1215
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 3>what's going on?

1216
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 1>What's the drama book?

1217
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 3>She is busy with work, She's busy, but she's soon

1218
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:02.640
<v Speaker 3>likes us. She said she's worthy thinks.

1219
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Understand. It seems like she.

1220
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Said, don't call her. I understand. Yeah, she did change.

1221
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 3>She did change her number, though, didn't she Because I've

1222
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.479
<v Speaker 3>been I haven't been getting any responses right because she

1223
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 3>got a new number.

1224
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's something on with her phone where

1225
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you have to text, like a couple of times.

1226
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Question and that I'm respecting her privacy right now, like

1227
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:28.920
<v Speaker 1>she asked me to. And she said, if there's anything

1228
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that she knows how to reach me.

1229
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, Yes, we all miss Sabrina. Hopefully we'll get

1230
01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 3>her back.

1231
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, were she said she's definitely here for the finale.

1232
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:40.680
<v Speaker 1>She said, quote me on it.

1233
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 2>So your mom is a listener.

1234
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 3>I guess I don't know how often she listens.

1235
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 1>That's nice. Must be nice well enough to know that

1236
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:49.359
<v Speaker 1>she also.

1237
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Could have been just listening to the beginning. She could

1238
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:54.399
<v Speaker 3>have listened and heard there was no Suprians just turns

1239
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:56.119
<v Speaker 3>it off every episode.

1240
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Turned it off and then immediately texted you what the

1241
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 2>fun if.

1242
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 1>You want to leave us a five star review saying

1243
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 1>how angry you are that Sabrina hasn't been here, I

1244
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 1>would love that, just like lay in the five star review. Yeah,

1245
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and that oh, my god, that would make me feel

1246
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:16.119
<v Speaker 1>so good.

1247
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Look, and you know, Sabrina is the only one among

1248
01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 3>us that doesn't have children, so I I'm you know.

1249
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 2>You might have noticed that my voice sounds sick on

1250
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:27.600
<v Speaker 2>every single podcast.

1251
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:33.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm still here, you know, naked kids running the background,

1252
01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 3>all right, but I think we're good. We'll talk to

1253
01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:39.600
<v Speaker 3>you next time. Hi,
