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Speaker 1: at eight thirty, The Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can
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Speaker 1: Of course, retired Lieutenant curl and he knows what there
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Daniel Davis. It's always a pleasure to have
Speaker 1: you on. We've got a couple of conflicts to talk
Speaker 1: about this morning. Hey, let's add one more?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I mean it is Wednesday, one on
Speaker 2: hum Day. Hum Day maybe had another war.
Speaker 1: We could maybe the war breakout in Taiwan while we're
Speaker 1: talking right now, Daniel Davis, and I say that really
Speaker 1: without joking. It is a terrible situation that we're dealing
Speaker 1: with right now with our global affairs, but we are
Speaker 1: dealing with them nonetheless. So let us start with the
Speaker 1: latest on what's going on with Israel. It looks like
Speaker 1: they got a leg up on his Bala. The reporting
Speaker 1: I saw Israel launched its attack on his Bala's missile
Speaker 1: systems and you know, military systems about an hour before
Speaker 1: his Bala was getting ready to launched them. I think
Speaker 1: his ball even acknowledged they were going to like launch
Speaker 1: it five point fifteen or something in the morning, and
Speaker 1: I guess the Israeli defense forces and their intelligence got
Speaker 1: wind of it and decided to do a peremptory strikes.
Speaker 3: That's actually the claim lack a lot of these things.
Speaker 3: You gotta look through some of the claims to see
Speaker 3: what was actually happening on the ground, and certainly in
Speaker 3: this particular case, it does appear that Israel got the
Speaker 3: leg up on it. But it's also kind of with
Speaker 3: an asterisk because when Israel launched this, it was one
Speaker 3: hundred warplanes, which is typically not something you do on
Speaker 3: a spur of the moment because it takes a lot
Speaker 3: to get that kind of activity, coordinated, resource prepared, armed, fueled,
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, but it does, You're right.
Speaker 3: It was many found it interesting to me being one
Speaker 3: of them, that the Hasbaala didn't even try to claim
Speaker 3: that no, no.
Speaker 2: No, that wasn't the case. That didn't get us before
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: So it was one of the few times of actually
Speaker 3: admitting the truth to from the Hasbola side. But it's
Speaker 3: also important to see that probably the claim by the
Speaker 3: Israeli they took out a thousand launchers is probably exaggerated
Speaker 3: because it's not likely that Hesbela would have exposed that
Speaker 3: many in this very narrow band of five kilometers north
Speaker 3: of the border that Israel struck. It's also instructive to
Speaker 3: look at what Hesbola did after the fact. They still
Speaker 3: launched the largest missile and drone strick that they had
Speaker 3: done of the war, over three hundred that were fired.
Speaker 3: But it's also important to point out what kind of
Speaker 3: rockets they fired. They fired with Kotusia rockets and a
Speaker 3: number of drones, which are easy to knock down. The
Speaker 3: Katusha rockets, frankly, are probably about as accurate as bottle
Speaker 3: rockets that you would fire fourth of July, but they
Speaker 3: have The Hesbala side does some much more sophisticated rockets
Speaker 3: and rocket launchers and missiles that can penetrate the Iron Dome,
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, they chose not to fire those,
Speaker 3: so net Is both sides have basically said, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: good for now.
Speaker 2: We don't need to escalate this further.
Speaker 3: And that's my concern every day, is that this is
Speaker 3: going to explode into another war, but it does ratchet
Speaker 3: it up because the scale keeps going higher.
Speaker 1: Well, and does this not perhaps Incentivius's ball to maybe
Speaker 1: you know, tone it down or perhaps even enter into
Speaker 1: some sort of negotiated peace. I know, we keep talking
Speaker 1: about negotiated peace, whether we're here in Ukraine with Russia,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a moment, but everybody, so
Speaker 1: we need to get peace and gods and we need
Speaker 1: you know, you know this. This looks like you can
Speaker 1: put a whim column check for the Israelis on it,
Speaker 1: since they did some significant damage to their military capabilities.
Speaker 1: But does it do anything to change the longer term dynamic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, it I think you're right on both counts that
Speaker 3: certainly in terms of this engagement, this tactical engagement. Definitely
Speaker 3: on the Israeli side, they came out on top of
Speaker 3: it because they were very effective in knocking this down
Speaker 3: with their own assets and their own resources. Their intelligence
Speaker 3: apparently was accurate. It was good because they did preempt something,
Speaker 3: but nothing it condition wise, has changed. And understand that
Speaker 3: Hezbola has somewhere all accounts north of one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand rockets and missiles. And even if they had
Speaker 3: taken out one thousand, that still leaves a whole bunch
Speaker 3: it's left, So they have a lot of capabilities.
Speaker 2: The question is going to be what next.
Speaker 3: And to your point there about the negotiated settlement, No,
Speaker 3: this is just a tactical setback. I mean they're in
Speaker 3: a conflict here and they're not going to give up
Speaker 3: because of one setback.
Speaker 2: They'll just be getting ready for the next one.
Speaker 1: Well, as we get ready to pivot over to the
Speaker 1: Ukraine situation, they got one hundred hundred and fifty thousand,
Speaker 1: call it, two hundred thousand rockets and missiles. They're still
Speaker 1: keeping their powder dry with those. If Israel had knocked
Speaker 1: all of those out much in the same way. If
Speaker 1: old let's say Ukraine uses up all its one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five millimeters shells, there are going to be
Speaker 1: more where that came from, right, I mean, Iran is
Speaker 1: not going to let his Bolla go completely without.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually what I was just about to say
Speaker 3: that because you can't look at the Israeli has Bola
Speaker 3: situation without look the Israeli Hamas situation and the Israeli
Speaker 3: Iran situation. Because Israel, as we've talked about its taken
Speaker 3: a lot of provocative actions.
Speaker 2: Towards Iran, you know, blowing up their embassy.
Speaker 3: Compound in Syria and certainly making that assassination in Tehran, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, is the next big thing we're waiting for,
Speaker 3: because Iran reiterated yesterday that they will still retaliate for
Speaker 3: what happened in Tehran at a time of their choosing,
Speaker 3: which implies they're either not ready, they're trying to coordinate
Speaker 3: more stuff.
Speaker 2: It's unclear what all's going on.
Speaker 3: The US is radic, you know, ratcheting up all of
Speaker 3: their diplomatic power to do everything they can to get
Speaker 3: Israel to agree to a cease fire with Hamas, thinking
Speaker 3: that that might take the impetus off of Iran for retaliating.
Speaker 3: That remains to be seen, but that is the big
Speaker 3: thing that everybody's looking for next, because if Israel does
Speaker 3: something big, it would definitely be done in coordination with
Speaker 3: the better stuff from Hezbela, and there is genuinely a
Speaker 3: military risk to Israel, so they've got to tread a
Speaker 3: little bit careful on how they proceed forward.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if Iran is the head of the
Speaker 1: snake and the head keeps growing up, you know, the
Speaker 1: different limbs, or keeps growing a different body, or can rearm,
Speaker 1: as the case may be. More directly to the point,
Speaker 1: this isn't going anywhere. I mean, they they're hostility is open.
Speaker 1: They hate Israel, they hate the Jewish people collectively. They
Speaker 1: think they're the big problem in the entire region. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to me that Irn's going to sleep
Speaker 1: at night until Israel's wiped off the map at some point.
Speaker 3: Well, and of course from the Irani perspective, it's the
Speaker 3: exact mirror image of that, because they are physically getting
Speaker 3: attacked by Israel a lot, and they fear that if
Speaker 3: they don't do something, it's going to be them that's
Speaker 3: wiped off the map. So their fear is actually driving us,
Speaker 3: because I'll tell you Iron definitely does not want a war,
Speaker 3: but they fear for their own existence, and if they
Speaker 3: keep getting attacked by Israel, they may actually launch, you know,
Speaker 3: some kind of what they'll call a deterrent strike, which
Speaker 3: is what they're claiming even in diplomatic diplomatic arenas yere
Speaker 3: right now. But you know, the farther this goes, the
Speaker 3: more chance for one overreacting or misinterpreting. And then of
Speaker 3: course the US has said it Israel dust get into
Speaker 3: a fight with Iran.
Speaker 2: We're definitely in.
Speaker 3: So this has direct implications for American national security. And
Speaker 3: I assure you, if anybody doesn't want war, it's us,
Speaker 3: and we should be doing a lot more to making
Speaker 3: sure all the sides tamp this down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apologize to the interruption of the video. If this
Speaker 1: has been going on all morning, sir, so don't blame yourself.
Speaker 1: Just some kind of technical glitch we're having here, all right,
Speaker 1: let us pivot over to Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Israel.
Speaker 1: I see that the Russians just launch another barage one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven missiles and one hundred and nine
Speaker 1: Iranian design Speaking of Iran, a running design shah Head
Speaker 1: drones into Ukraine, hitting a lot of the power systems,
Speaker 1: at least knocking out more power. I'm actually shocked as
Speaker 1: we sit here and talk today, Daniel Davis, that there's
Speaker 1: still power at all in Ukraine given the Russians capabilities.
Speaker 1: Where are we here on the heels of Ukraine entering
Speaker 1: into Russia, which we talked about last week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, listen, this was not just the biggest missile
Speaker 3: and dron strike by Rush. It was also the most effective.
Speaker 3: This when I saw a map of where the strikes
Speaker 3: actually took place was it was stunning even for me,
Speaker 3: because almost every single oblast in the entirety of Ukraine
Speaker 3: was hit, which means the air defense system was almost
Speaker 3: non existent anywhere, to include Kiev, and usually Kiev has
Speaker 3: been successful at knocking down ninety or even sometimes one
Speaker 3: hundred percent of what's struck, and almost none of them
Speaker 3: got shot down. I actually saw some of the drone
Speaker 3: footage I'm sorry, not drone footage, but the missile footage
Speaker 3: of the of some of the slower moving warheads that
Speaker 3: came in that nothing even slowed them down.
Speaker 2: They all hit the target.
Speaker 3: And now that the energy infrastructure, especially the electricity generating
Speaker 3: capacity is down about forty percent to about forty percent
Speaker 3: generally speaking across and there are some sections where they're
Speaker 3: still without power, that's going to be a major problem
Speaker 3: number one for Ukraine's ability to generate war material you know,
Speaker 3: run factories, et cetera. But especially as we now we're
Speaker 3: getting close to the cold season, there's not enough power
Speaker 3: generation to do that, and the Ukraine authorities are already
Speaker 3: telling their people in the cities make provisions to go
Speaker 3: to the countryside where you can have firewood to burn,
Speaker 3: et cetera, because they know already there's not going to
Speaker 3: be enough and it's going to be a really bad winner.
Speaker 2: For the Ukraine side.
Speaker 1: Well, and give credit to Russia on that one, because
Speaker 1: that in terms of advancing maybe a peace discussion, they
Speaker 1: just shown what they're capable of doing, and that those
Speaker 1: missile strikes apparently show what Ukraine is incapable of doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're out of iron dome type weapons systems, but
Speaker 1: they're in for a much bigger problem if if Russia
Speaker 1: made a habit of just doing exactly what they did
Speaker 1: the other day, like okay, we showed them all we day,
Speaker 1: Let's wait a couple of days, let's do it again.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to back Ukraine in the corner.
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that they think a million people have
Speaker 1: been killed in this conflict so far. I know, the
Speaker 1: fog of war, going back to our earlier comments, but
Speaker 1: I mean this just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've got obviously, you know, truth is the
Speaker 3: first casualty in any way war. Both sides have a
Speaker 3: motivation to exaggerate casualties and minimize them on their side.
Speaker 2: But the truth is probably somewhere in between.
Speaker 3: But I think given the amount of firepower between the
Speaker 3: two provided by fifty nations on our side in Russia,
Speaker 3: with North Korea and Iran on its side, it's massive capacity.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably gonna be turnout to be a
Speaker 3: good number or a pretty good ballpark figure.
Speaker 2: And it's just catastrophic.
Speaker 3: I will point out, because you mentioned it a second
Speaker 3: ago before we get off, you're about the curse incursion.
Speaker 3: This could be turned out to be the biggest disaster
Speaker 3: for Ukraine because they can't sustain it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was self evident.
Speaker 3: You can't invade a country the size of Russia with
Speaker 3: twenty thousand people and think it's going to succeed. And
Speaker 3: since we've talked last day, have made a couple of
Speaker 3: incremental games on a couple of these little fingers you
Speaker 3: may have seen on the map.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they've also lost a few. So it's basically a.
Speaker 3: Net netive trying to hold what they have, but their
Speaker 3: casualties keep going up by the day and it just
Speaker 3: can't be sustained. And pretty soon I think they're either
Speaker 3: going to have to withdraw or they may end up
Speaker 3: being driven out, and it's it's not going to be
Speaker 3: good for the Ukraine side.
Speaker 1: It's just terrible all around. That loss to life is
Speaker 1: just incomprehensible. Daniel Davis deep dive search for me to
Speaker 1: find them on YouTube and elsewhere on social media. Daniel,
Speaker 1: I love having you on the program. It's always an
Speaker 1: enjoyable exchange, even if it is on some pretty difficult
Speaker 1: subject matter. That's why I like havin you on.
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