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Let me go over or let me go a little
bit more in depth on the caller at the end
of the last hour, Melinda, who I take it doesn't
like Vince Cochley, who is on ten to noon before
I come on, and or at least is trying to
score some points by suggesting that he doesn't belong in
the WBT lineup or something, because because that's what she's
saying when she says, could in Vince Cokeley be considered
a Dei higher and as I told her that viewing
everything through the racial prism is Dei prism or lens
it has so warped the way she thinks in that
she sees a black man holding a job on WBT
for years and thinks he's only there because of his race.
See that's what this way of thinking does to the
leftist mind. And again I mentioned the woke right, it's
doing the same thing over there. But with the Jews
it's the same thing. Right. You cease to see the
person as the individual because I can tell you without
disclosing a kind of trade secrets here, but I can
tell you if Vince Coakley's ratings were not good, consistently good,
he would not be on the air any longer. See,
this is a meritocracy. Being on the air on WBT
is a meritocracy. You cannot be on the air for
as long as Vince has been on the air. And
dare I say also just in broadcasting. The man has
been in broadcasting for what now forty years? Thirty or
forty years? He was the lead anchor of the highest
rated TV news, local TV News in Charlotte for years,
for years. But see, Melinda doesn't see past Vince's skin color,
and then she weaponizes the skin color to diminish his achievements.
All to score some political point, because the issue isn't
the issue. The issue is the revolution. So she may
think Vince is just a perfectly fine person, he's good
at what he does or whatever. But I have to
now discard that for the moment because I'm trying to
advance the revolution by making this argument that you, Pete,
don't know what you're talking about on DEI or something,
because Melinda, she wasn't asking a question. She's making an allegation, right,
She's making an allegation of hypocrisy or something, and that
maybe Vince doesn't belong on the lineup. But I can
tell you once again that the ratings would not lie.
If he doesn't have good ratings, he is out. Okay.
So Melinda called back and said she loves Vince. You
misunderstood her. I don't think I misunderstood you if you're
suggesting he's a DEI higher. Also, I would point out
that we are owned by urban I, so huh, yeah,
I no, Vince deserves his spot because we are a meritocracy.
The people who are on the air here are on
the air because we produce content that advertisers want to
purchase time during. Because a lot of people listen to
the content. You like the content that the various hosts produce.
We all do different things and we're not told what
to say and what to think. We produce different content,
we say different things, we have different opinions, and we
do it in a way that people appreciate and they
like to listen to, they like to engage with, And
advertisers see that audience and they say, I would like
my message to be in front of those people. That
audience and the politics of it really don't matter so much.
It's just that they want people to be aware of
their product or service, and the moment a host cannot
deliver the audience, then they're gone. That's it. It's as
easy and as straightforward as that. So to suggest that
somehow Vince doesn't belong in the lineup, or that he
was hired for some other reason than his merit is offensive.
But again, that's that's what happens when you when you
go down this path of looking at people as as
groups and classes, and then you start stuffing those classes
into oppressor and depressed, and we have to try to
squeeze the well. I was gonna say balloon, but that's
not a good analogy. You're trying to You're trying to
adjust the scales to make everything even for the out
for the outcomes. For example, out in San Francisco, did
you hear that they were going to implement equity grading?
Equity grading? Equity is not equality. They are different. Right.
As Gary pointed out, equality of outcome is not the
same as equality of opportunity. I believe in equal opportunities.
Anybody can be anything. You can do. What you set
your mind to do, you can do it. And shame
on those who tell kids, who tell other people, adults
to that you can't because somebody is preventing you from
getting your dream. They're blocking you. These are the evil
people stopping you from doing this thing. If you want it,
you can get it. Set your sights on it. Have
a goal. Tell people what that goal is. You would
be amazed at how simple it actually is. That's it.
Have a goal, a realistic one, but have goals, put
write them down. Write your goals down, and then tell
other people what it is you want to achieve. That's
what a job application is. I want this job. Communicating
to the employer I would like that job. Have the goal,
write it down, Tell other people, because when you tell
other people, you would be amazed how many people want
to actually help you achieve your goal, especially successful people.
But we don't tell people that. We don't tell kids that.
Have you ever heard that? In a K twelve education setting?
To have a goal? Write it down and then tell
people what your goal is so they can help you
achieve it. Ask for help, seek out mentorship. Right, these
are the things that make you successful. And you know
who knows this, successful people, And you know what they
will tell you exactly what I just told you, because
they've told me. They write books about this stuff, seriously,
how to win friends and influence people, how to what
was the one drawing a blank on the name of it, Carnegie,
think yourself rich or something like that. I forget what
it was called years ago, but you talked about visualization
of the goal. They all do the same thing. It's
the same model. And when you tell people that they
cannot do that because the color of their skin, their
economic background, their sexual identity, whatever. When you tell people
that somehow or another, you can't make it like all
these other people can, so you need help, you're instilling
in them what's called a tendency for interpersonal VICTIMOODE or TIV.
It's a psychological thing. You start stuffing their brains with
that cancerous view, and then it affects every single thing
in their life. It is so damaging that if you
really want to help people, you tell them the things
that make them successful, like I just did. Here's another one.
If you want to stay out of poverty or get
out of poverty. They know the answers to this. You
know what the answers are. Nothing GOVC can do for you.
Graduate high school right, graduate high school. Have a job,
any job. Just have a job because it will lead
to other opportunities and skills development. So graduate high school,
have a job, and then don't get or don't have
kids before you're married and before you are out of school.
That was the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank. They
identified these things thirty years ago. I want to say,
this is not rocket science. But if you don't tell
people these things and instead stuff their minds with the
idea that they are the victim, you are damning them
to a life of poverty and grievance mongering, grievance collecting.
It's just poison, absolute poison, and it comes from the
Marxist ideology. I see the roots there. They talk about
the same thing that that's the same. It's the class warfare.
The only reason you don't have is because these other
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lines and chat with Richard. Hello, Richard, welcome to the program.
How are you?
Speaker 2: Hi? Very good. I'm an American and I happen to
have black skin, and I'm so glad you're covering this
because from my perspective, people like me, what you would
call the African American community, have been destroyed by what
I would call this government heroine, which is packaged in socialism, communism,
and Marxism. So when Joe Biden's going around saying build
back better, I said to myself, well, they want to
destroy and then build back into this ideology of this
Marx Marxism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the core of that is the is the
uh well Obama called it the fundamental transformation. It's the
tearing down of the existing institutions by any means necessary.
And that's where you get the systemically this and inherently
that in order to what to tear them down and
then to quote rebuild them, as you said, to build
them back better. It's a it is the it's the
project of the left.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they're very savvy, and everybody has to watch
the language, and you have to understand the content of
what they're saying, because they package these things in a
very nice little envelope, but when you taste it, it's heroin,
it's poison. And they were trying to do that. Not
only they've already done to the African American community, but
they wanted it to do to the whole country. And
everybody should remember because they'll try to go to the
middle now and they'll try to mask themselves. But everybody
has to remember going forward, who did this, because they
came very close to destroying this country with their open
borders in this DEI crap.
Speaker 1: Well, they still might, Richard, they still might. We are
not we are nowhere near past the impacts of the
the illegal immigration crisis, and the and the DEI and
CRT and all of that garbage, all that Marxist garbage.
We're still in that. We're still in the thick of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm very I'm from New York, I'm retired cop.
And god forbid, the next thing that blows up or
some building comes down, just remember who opened up those borders.
Who's gonna have blood in their hands?
Speaker 1: Yeah there, Yeah, No, I appreciate it, Richard. I appreciate
the call too. Thank you for your service also, And
that's the concern that I played the clips a couple
I guess two weeks ago. Yeah. From Tom Holman, head
of the board's the borders are And that's one of
the things he said that keeps him up at night,
is like, we know there are just by numbers, hundreds
of thousands of people that got away. We don't know
how many more got away. The two hundred thousand is
that's just the number we know of. And even if
it's like one percent of the two hundred thousand that
we know of, like that's enough to cause a lot
of damage and kill a lot of people. It was
a decision that was made by President Auto pen whoever
that was. Yeah, it's it's very concerning to me because
the purpose is to destroy. That's the point, right, And
I mentioned Obama's catchphrase fundamental transformation. You know, you don't
fundamentally transform something that you love, that you think is good.
The only the only reason you would fundamentally transform something
is if you didn't like it, if it was bad,
if you, you know, wanted to make something else. That's
why you would fundamentally change it. So over in San Francisco,
apparently you can push those people too far on this
equity stuff. I did not think that was possible full disclosure,
but apparently it is a proposal to experiment with changing
the grading system in the city's high schools quickly crashed
and burned. They called it grading for equity because that's
going to prepare kids for their future as an adult.
Right is to grade them on such a curve that
they don't actually learn anything, but they still get their diploma,
and then they'll be really prepared to make a comfortable
living for themselves and be productive members of society. Because
they'll have the high school diploma. They won't know how
to read, they won't know how to do any arithmetic.
They won't know really anything else except probably you know,
queer theory and such. But at least they got the diploma.
Homework and classroom participation were no longer going to influence
final grades. Instead, your grades would be primarily determined by
a final exam that students could take multiple times. Attendance
and punctuality, which remember, I think is racist according to
this Smithsonian from a couple of years back where they
put out that big chart about what is racist and
you know, white oppression and stuff, the DEI. It's one
of those other anecdotes when the Smithsonian puts something like
that out and they said, being on time is whiteness.
Punctuality is whiteness. A score of eighty percent, you get
an A. A score as low as forty one, well
that's a C. And if you got a twenty one,
well that's a D. This was equity grading. Yeah, and
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createavideo dot Com. National Review editorial headline, san Francisco's equity
grading would end education. I went over some of the
details of this dumbass idea. Instead of educating kids, the
San Francisco equity play and would have effectively instrumentalized the
children the school system is supposed to serve, making them
an object lesson for educating the rest of society on
what equality should look like. In this upside down reconception
of schooling, instilling knowledge, virtue, and habits for lifelong learning
becomes a scandalous distraction from the political project of making
students equal equally uneducated. I put that last part in
equally uneducated. That is the thing about communism. Everybody ends
up equal, well except for the guys, the elites that
are ruling over everybody else. But everybody else is equal,
equally poor, equally terrified, paranoid about all their neighbors and
family members that snitch on each other and then get
hauled away to gulags and such. They go on to
say that in some ways we should not be surprised
that schemes like this the progressive overclass guards its privilege
to rule through meritocracy on one side, while on the
other defends its moral right to rule through its commitment
to equality. Some level of cognitive dissonance must be expected,
they say. Trying to change the definition of a work
to include b work, so they were making the grading
system they're talking about a score of eighty percent would
still get an A. Now in my day, you only
got an A if it was ninety and above. Right.
B's were in the eighties, c's were in the seventies,
and then D was only like five points from like
six sixty five to seventy, and then everything else was
an F. You had to get like two thirds of
the stuff right just to be considered passing with a D.
In this equity grading system, you could get a twenty one,
and that's a D for dumb assery. Right, So, trying
to change the definition of what is a work to
incorporate all the B work just obscures the achievements of
the best students and teachers. Passing work that fails is
an even worse thing to do for the middling and
poor students and teachers who might otherwise be roused to
do better, Like if you fail, then you should try
to do better to pass. It obscures the need for
dramatic interventions and remedial learning. Right, Oh, look at you,
you got a twenty two. Oh you pass You got
a D. Oh, I'm so proud. Now you don't have
to do any kind of corrective action. The best thing
schools can do for kids is to raise standards and
then build a culture of support that helps children achieve
to the best of their abilities. Right, the soft bigotry
of low expectations. They scrapped this plan. They did scrap it.
They got such backlash from I know San Francisco parents.
They will not be implementing the equity grading yet. I
say yet, because these things never they never truly die,
these types of ideas, they don't go away. There was
a movie I think it was called Ghost Chip with
the dude from Fight Club that wasn't Brad Pitt, but
Edward Norton. I think he was in it. And yeah,
pretty sure he was in it. And it's been out
for a long time, so I'm going to spoil it
for you. But it's basically a ghost Chip. It's a
boat and it's out there and it's like this boat
that like the history. The history is that it sank
and it was like a luxury liner. So there were
all these riches on it, and they entice these scavengers
to try to go find it. He's like, I know
where the boat is, we can go get it. And
basically it's a ship that lures people in and it's
satan just trapping souls, luring them in with riches and
greed and all of this other stuff. And it's just
a cycle. And it never ends. This argument it's called
the Great Debate. It never ends because it is inspired
my opinion, only it is inspired from Hell. Then I
know how that sounds. I absolutely know how that sounds.
But if I were to construct a religion dressed up
in any different form of economics or equality, right, you
can just take the parts and put them into anything,
this would be it because it breeds the very kind
of chaos and animosity and envy and greed. It creates
all of these things that destroy people's bonds and their
civility and their societies. So yeah, that's why I call
these things as I see them. I say that this
is what I think it is because I know of
no other word to describe what I'm seeing. Let me
see here. This is from Philip. In all of the
hubris over DEI I have yet to see a list
of characteristics that qualify for diversity. Well, I think it's
like porn. You know it when you see it. Short, fat, bald, blonde,
facial jewelry, long fingernailed, shoe size, country of origin or
any other items that might be in the human race.
Tell me, do you know of any visually impaired commercial pilots?
Speaker 3: I do not?
Speaker 1: Why not? What's the limit on diversity? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean this, This is part of the problem. When
you implement these things, you start down this road of
replacing merit with some other false metric, and that can
get people killed. Jan says, you don't understand DEI. I
have to disagree. I started listening to you in Ashville
and have been listening to you for years. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Jan.
Speaker 1: There is a long list of things you obviously don't understand,
but you seem to have a very good grip on DEI.
Thank you, Thank you very much. I appreciate that. On
a completely separate note, I had no idea Vince was black,
and I couldn't care less even if I were willing
to try. I enjoy his show, and that pretty much
sums it up. So yeah, Dennis says, as a unc
Charlotte alum from sixty seven to seventy one, I remember
a history course whereby we studied that Karl Marx and
Friedrich Engel's book The Communist Manifesto preached against capitalism and
the working class was to revolt and to overcome back.
Then we were taught basically that philosophy was a bad thing.
Fast forward fifty five years to the present, and it
seems like our institutes of higher learning are teaching just
the opposite. Yeah, yeah, I mean when you start injecting
this stuff in, or you're smuggling it in under different ideas,
you know, masquerading as you know, morally superior, and then
you get no pushback because you've cleansed all the ranks
of anybody that would say whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me
tell you what the other side of the story is,
you know. Yeah, this is why people call K twelve
education and you know, colleges and universities what they call
it indoctrination. Bill says, wasn't mistreatment of slaves anecdotal as well?
I just heard your call with your socialist buddy Mike.
He could apply his reason to about any situation. So
only a few women get raped, So is it really
that bad? Like, don't get me wrong, I enjoy my
calling up and you point him back in the other direction.
You're right, it's all to tear down society. Thanks. That's
from Bill in uh Huntersville. Yeah, that's look. I welcome
challenges to my ideas. I say it all the time.
Unchallenged ideas are easy to hold. Right. Resistance to pressure
build strength. And it's one of my criticisms of the
left and the media, which is because the media doesn't
challenge the left like it does the right, the left
has gotten intellectually flat and they are unable to defend
their ideas because they don't have to. And so I
offer that service. I'm a giver. You're welcome, all right.
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with Dave now. Hello Dave, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3: Hello Pete, Hey, thank you for taking my call. Sure,
I just had a few comments. One is, if you
really want to know what this lops like down the
road in regard to socialism or communism, take a look
at the book called Atlas Shrugged.
Speaker 1: Oh I've read it. Yes, if you.
Speaker 3: Reread that really is a picture of where these people
want to take you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You have the productive that the productive that are
beaten down and restrained at all in all manner of
ways in order to not make others feel bad about
not contributing, and so you end up with the moochers
and the looters and you know, versus the producers. And
the society crumbles.
Speaker 3: And none of the ills of the regular non communist
society still remain because it's part of human nature. Additionally,
hit the nose on the head there regarding the responsibility
side of this, Nobody who is a member of the
Communist party jumps up front and tries to take control
or be responsible for anything. That book also points that out. Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's also like the person I forget who
it was that called you know nobody shows up and
is selling communism with you know, one hundred million deaths.
But that's not the pitch, right, The pitch is always you.
Speaker 3: To exactly and it is far from it. Right, you're
mentioning about it coming from hell, You're absolutely spot on.
It absolutely is because in every way, shape and form,
it is a contradiction to Judeo Christian values. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a there's a book. Uh, And I've watched
an interview with the authors The Devil and Karl Marx,
and I have I have the book. I have not
read it because I'm kind of scared to because like
it's one of the things I don't like entertaining. What's like,
like like Vince Cochley is all into the horror movies.
I don't watch any of that stuff. I don't like.
I don't even want any of that stuff in my head.
I just I don't. I don't want to give it
any kind of an opening. And absolutely, yeah, So it's
I kind of worry about trying to read the book,
but I wanted to. I wanted to learn about it.
So I watched an interview with the author and he outlined,
he outlined, like the book and these connections and they
are they are quite quite strong.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, well, Marxism has proven itself to be an
end a rotten man. Nobody who practices Marxism is a
strong country. Everyone is mediocrity. And that's what they're selling
is mediocrity. Every one is equals. Therefore everything is mediocre.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's but it's always being sold by people
who are either the useful idiots to quote Vladimir Lenin,
or they are they they they are of the belief
that they will be the ruling class, that they will
be the elites. So that's why they want everybody to
buy into this beautiful system where everybody you know, gets,
you know, seven days a week off, nobody has to
work somebody else will do everything else for you, and
but they will rule and they sell it to you
one way. But of course that's not possible. You can't
have a society where nobody does anything. It will collapse.
And so then they then force everybody to do stuff,
but obviously not themselves because they know better than everybody else.
Speaker 3: But you are all over this subject, man, you are
all over it, and I really really appreciate it. Well.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 3: We have to get an education out there for everyone
to know what it is they're dealing with. Yeah, well
we're not getting.
Speaker 1: That, no, I agree. I think anybody who watched the
fall of the Berlin Wall, like, yeah, and I'm gen X,
so I saw it. I was in high school at
the time, and I remember like, we thought we had
beaten Communism and that was such a great thing because
communism was so evil. And give it a couple of
decades and people turned over the institutions to the Marxists.
And this is precisely and has been precisely the plan
for a very long time. This is the long march
through the institutions. You're talking media, law, academia, government, right,
And when you control the culture, politics is downstream of
that culture. That's what Graham she talked about. And so
that's how you end up in a position where people
grow up never knowing that this this ideology is really
bad and there's a reason why it has been defeated
and people fight against it because it is so evil.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't agree with anymore, sir.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I appreciate your call. Good chat. I have
a great weekend, all right, take care. This is from
good Wahoo who says Marxism and by extension is I
don't know, is nothing more than envy with power behind
it to exact revenge by force. Right, This is the
whole in Marxism. You know, power dynamics is always sent
because that's how you gin up the envy and whether
you're talking power dynamics between economic classes, right. And what
Graham she realized was the economic class warfare that Marx
was pitching wasn't terribly well received in capitalist nations because
they had the opportunity to actually advance. People want to
be rich, people want to succeed, right, and so that
wasn't something that was particularly useful as a messaging tool.
And so this then turned into the cultural side of things,
where It's like, Okay, take control of these institutions, and
you will then teach the proletariat to be envious of
the oppressor and to overthrow the oppressor. But you have
to do it through these institutions. You have to deconstruct
through that, through those cultural institutions. Back to the tweet
here from Goodwahoo. Just take a look at Carl Marx himself.
He was from a wealthy family living in London. Oh,
he was a freeloader too. Do you know that the
dude was a freeloader. He abandoned his wife and kids,
and he had like some really disgusting medical thing going on.
But yeah, he was by all accounts, a lazy glutton
who desperately wanted to be accepted into the English higher
class system. And when he was rejected, he dreamed up
communism with the influence of Hegel, who saw the state
as the highest moral authority. Hegel did oh by extension
dei Marxism and by extension Dei's nothing more than envy. Right,
So the power dynamics always central. You see this in
the CRT stuff when it was you know, blown starting
probably what a decade ago, and when that was being
used to infiltrate everything. The power dynamic. Who has the power?
And this remember the old blind you know, Uh, black
people can't be racist because they don't have the power.
It's Marxism, right, because that's not true. Everybody could be racist.
Every single person can be a racist. That's not something
to aspire to. I'm just saying everybody can be a
racist towards somebody else. Have you ever seen some of
the ads that they have on TV in China, Holy
Smokes racist on their state run Commy TV Racist. Anybody
can be racist, but Marxism frames everything through power dynamics,
oppressed versus a presser. I don't I didn't make this up.
Marx did. Maybe Satan I didn't make it up. All right,
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