WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.680 And the Lulberts. I love the Lolberts. You know how 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:07.040 I love libertarians so much because whenever a fight breaks out, 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.599 they fold like cheap suits, so I don't have to 4 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.800 worry about them at all. These libertarians come out and 5 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:15.640 they're like, look, I'm I'm concerned about immigration, but I 6 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.079 don't think the government should be allowed. And I'm like, 7 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.160 bro by all means scream into the wind, because if 8 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:23.399 anything actually has to happen, you're gonna stand there with 9 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.359 our arms crossed while we do the jobs that need 10 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.440 to be done. I'm gonna let you in a big secret. 11 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.879 Did you know the Second Amendment was not about fighting tyranny? No, 12 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.600 it was we're not being represented in government as it 13 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.679 stands right now, you list, says Grant. What he wrote was, 14 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:43.079 you have regius of grievances, you have elections. You are 15 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:46.960 not facing taxation without representation. So while you can try 16 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.920 to rebel, you will be conquered by your betters. So 17 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:51.960 the argument right now is this, I'll put it simply. 18 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.880 First of all, when these people come out and go, 19 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.560 Tim's a boot liquor if we're defending eyes, I'm like, no, no, 20 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:59.119 you misunderstand it's my boots. 21 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:00.119 It's mine. 22 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.320 I voted for them. I'm wearing the boot. I'm stomping 23 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:03.920 on the ground. 24 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.560 We've fallen so far that we now have conservative commentators, 25 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:12.879 Trump supporters en mass arguing against the Second Amendment say 26 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:17.480 it ain't so this is so terrible. I'm gonna get 27 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.239 the preface out of the way. Yeah, Tim's my friend, 28 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.319 doesn't matter. I haven't been invited on the show in 29 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.719 eighteen months. I don't have a choice. He's calling out 30 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.719 my people by name calling us lulverts, basically arguing that 31 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:31.959 the Second Amendment was not formulated explicitly to prevent tyranny, 32 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.799 despite the fact that James Madison in Federalists Number forty six, 33 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.799 as well as Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Number twenty nine, 34 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.560 both argued explicitly that yes, it is. 35 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:44.680 That that's the exact. 36 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.799 Reason that they wanted us to be armed, in particular, 37 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.159 because they didn't want to have a standing army, because 38 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.319 they didn't want to be an empire, because they didn't 39 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.120 want to be invaded or controlled by an empire either. 40 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.920 So they argued very very. 41 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.000 Eloquently that in fact, the American peace people should and 42 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:05.879 must be armed to ensure their liberties, to ensure that 43 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.599 they remain a free state. And mind you, it's not 44 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.280 just our founding fathers. This is also Scotus rulings. You 45 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.719 had DC versus Heller in I think it was eight. 46 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.919 They once again reaffirmed the fact that, yes, we have 47 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.599 to be able to arm ourselves so that we can 48 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:23.000 defend against tyranny. 49 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.039 So, if you want to make the. 50 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.840 Argument that Alex Pretty engaged in illegal activities and therefore 51 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.360 his life was justifiably taken by all means, make that argument. 52 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.400 But please do not make the argument that he did 53 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.520 not have a right to possess a firearm, or that 54 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:41.080 because he possessed a firearm, he therefore somehow deserved to 55 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.439 be shot. Now, I'll agree with Tim that I don't 56 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:45.960 appreciate the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to 57 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:50.120 suddenly affirming their god given right to self defense and 58 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:54.199 firearm ownership, when they have spent decades, basically my entire life, 59 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.759 arguing that I should be disarmed, that all of us 60 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.639 should be disarmed. So, yes, he and I agree they 61 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:04.199 are hypocrits. However, do not besmirch my people. The only 62 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.560 people that are consistent ideologically, no matter who's in power, 63 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.680 all the fucking time, because we're actually serious about this shit, 64 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.360 because we actually do appreciate the Constitution, because we actually 65 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.080 do want to uphold and defend it, because we actually 66 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:21.120 do believe in self defense and fighting back against tyranny. Now, 67 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.599 there is an important argument to be had here, and 68 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.599 this case is very complicated. This particular shooting I think 69 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.439 is egregious. But instead of telling you why I believe that, 70 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.159 let me show you now. Granted, this interaction begins just 71 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:39.240 seconds before the actual interaction between the immigration agents and 72 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.039 Pretty and these other female protesters begins, so we don't 73 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.439 know all of the leading up factors that began this, 74 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.000 but we can judge based off of the interaction from 75 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.159 where it begins, and it does appear, at least on video, 76 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.800 that the aggression does not come from the protesters, but 77 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:13.000 rather from the immigration officials. 78 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:16.000 The fuck people, the fuck is wrong with. 79 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:37.360 You, honestly, So in a matter of about twenty five seconds, 80 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:41.600 this turns from what is probably a minor engagement with 81 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.519 protesters into a lethal shooting. Now, there are a number 82 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.720 of variables that I think are important to note That 83 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.839 I haven't seen anyone else discuss. So let's first point out, 84 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:53.959 and I can say this with some I guess knowledge, 85 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.920 is because I was just in Dallas during this incredible 86 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.680 ice storm last week and what happened, in fact, just yesterday. 87 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.360 I was there and what I realized is that, oh, 88 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.040 they're standing on ice, the same thing I've been doing 89 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.079 for the past forty eight hours. Let me tell you, 90 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.519 it ain't easy to keep your feet beneath you. So 91 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.720 I think that that's the first reason that this escalates 92 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.439 so dramatically and so out of control, is that it's 93 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.959 probably very slick and very hard to get your footing, 94 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.759 which in my opinion, is why Alex is the man 95 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.839 who was shot. He appears to be trying to keep 96 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:30.920 his balance after intervening, getting in between himself and the 97 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.680 agent who had just shoved this woman. We don't really 98 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:38.040 understand why, but regardless he shoves her, Alex puts himself 99 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.399 in between that agent and the woman who had just fallen. 100 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.519 He puts his hand up. He's immediately pepper sprayed, but 101 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.240 he's also trying to protect the woman or pick her up. 102 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.439 But after he's pepper sprayed, he's probably struggling to stand 103 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:53.279 up because of the ice beneath him, he grabs onto 104 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.319 the woman, who I think he was trying to help up. 105 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:57.600 He then kind of tumbles with her, the agent's kind 106 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.360 of tumble with him, and they all go cutting to 107 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.879 the ground where things get truly truly out of control. 108 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.680 But the very key thing here is did he in 109 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.959 fact draw his firearm? Did he reach for his firearm? 110 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.639 And the answer is no. Based off of all of 111 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.399 the footage I've reviewed, the answer is definitively no, he 112 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:27.920 did not. He had his cell phone in his right hand. 113 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.959 There was a firearm that was holstered the entire time. 114 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.560 And even worse for these agents that ended up firing 115 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:38.000 on him, is that one of the agents grabs his 116 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.279 firearm from the holster and removes it and back pedals 117 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:46.480 away from this entire wrestling match. Now, it happens very quickly, obviously, 118 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.240 and I'm not trying to make this seem extraordinarily simple. 119 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:49.639 It's not. 120 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.399 There's a lot of variables, a lot of factors, a 121 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.720 lot of people involved. But at the end of the day, 122 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.279 what happened was a man who had not swung at, 123 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:05.439 drawn on, brandished shot at anything, had not aggressed upon 124 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.920 these officers in a violent fashion necessitating lethal force, was 125 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:16.040 in fact disarmed prior to receiving any rounds in his direction. 126 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.879 So you have a man who appears to be probably misguided, 127 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.600 attempting to do something I would certainly not advise, trying 128 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:30.839 to prevent immigration officials from carrying out their deportation orders, 129 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:37.120 going to this protest armed and tragically having his life taken. Now, 130 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.439 because it's too early to say definitively, I'm not going 131 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.319 to say definitively that he was murdered. 132 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:43.439 I don't know that. 133 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.199 I think that there's a very good argument to be 134 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.680 made that he was, but until we have all of 135 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.319 the footage, I'm just going to preserve judgment. All I'm 136 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.600 going to say at this junction is to me, given 137 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:56.800 the evidence we have in front of us, it was 138 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.160 definitively a bad shoot. Whether or not that ultimately means 139 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:04.839 it was illegal and that these agents will be prosecuted 140 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.759 and imprisoned, I don't know, but I think it's important, 141 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:10.920 and this is really the point I wanted to get to. 142 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.720 I think it's important that if you see a bad 143 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:17.319 shoot you just say so. You just say the truth 144 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:21.800 about it, regardless of what your end goal is regardless 145 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.319 of what your priorities are, you have to be honest 146 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.240 and that's all I'm going to be in this situation. 147 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:29.720 Was it a good shoot or not? Did he need 148 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:34.879 to be shot? The answer is no, Alex pretty should 149 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.519 still be alive. Just to show you that I'm being 150 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:42.240 even headed on this. So should Daniel Shaver, So should 151 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:48.320 Ashley Babbitt, so should Breonna Taylor. There are numerous instances 152 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:53.080 of cops behaving poorly, of showing bad judgment and ultimately 153 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.320 shooting people that did not need to be shot. All 154 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.240 we need to do is tell the truth about that. 155 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.519 It doesn't mean that you want nothing to be done 156 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.360 about immigration. There seems to be this argument on the right. 157 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.440 First off, I just want to say, there seems to 158 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.759 be this kind of movement on the right to see 159 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.480 who can be the most callous, who can be the 160 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:16.519 most depraved, who can be the most ideologically captured, who 161 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:21.759 can dehumanize their opponents the most. Basically, it is a 162 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.840 mirror image or a funhouse image of the worst elements 163 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.559 of the left. They want us disarmed, they want us censored, 164 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:30.279 So let's censor them and let's disarm them, or worse 165 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.879 let's shoot them. I mean, is that really how we win? 166 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.960 Is that how we progress as a civilization? To just 167 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.840 have a race to the bottom of moral depravity? I 168 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.840 would argue, no, it's not. From Matt Walsh to Tim 169 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.159 Poole to Megan Kelly, all of them are basically beating 170 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:52.000 the same drum. This guy is an enemy combatant. Sternovich 171 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.440 is doing the same thing. They are framing him as 172 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.759 an enemy combatant and therefore sure not the cleanest shoot 173 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.039 in the world. But you know, got to break a 174 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:03.639 few eggs is basically mentality. 175 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.159 I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex pretty, 176 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:08.480 but I don't. 177 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:09.879 I don't. 178 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.600 Do you know why I wasn't shot by Border patrol 179 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:16.200 this weekend because I kept my ass inside and out 180 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:21.559 of their operations. It's very simple. If I felt strongly 181 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.759 enough about something the government was doing that I would 182 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.440 go out and protest. I would do it peacefully on 183 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.320 the sidewalk, without interfering via a whistle, via shouting, via 184 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.399 my body, via any other way. 185 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.480 Rewind that back and listen to it again. But just 186 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.039 imagine that it's Rachel Maddow talking about Ashley Babbitt. Reminiscent 187 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:42.600 isn't it doesn't it sound almost exactly the same. Oh, 188 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.200 do I feel bad for him? I don't care if 189 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.480 you feel bad for him. I'm not asking for you 190 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.799 to feel bad for him. I'm not asking you to 191 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.080 feel bad for Ashley Babbit either. I'm just asking for 192 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.519 you to uphold the rule of law. Conservative. I'm asking 193 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.720 for you to actually consider is this a good shoot 194 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.080 or not? Because to say that, well, I wasn't there 195 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.120 and that's why I wasn't shot, is not a justification 196 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.639 for lethal use of force. This is exactly what they 197 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.879 said about Ashley Babbitt in the Capitol. I also wasn't 198 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.039 shot at the Capitol because I didn't go in there 199 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.519 because I recognized that it was probably a trap. She 200 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.039 didn't recognize that, and she lost her life. That doesn't 201 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.240 mean that you need to feel bad for her. It 202 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.720 just means that do you or do you not believe 203 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.919 that that shooting from officer BYRD was justified? And if 204 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:36.759 you watch it, I don't know how you come to 205 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.240 the conclusion that it was despite the fact that no 206 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.080 charges were brought against him. And this is just, in 207 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:46.639 my opinion, a very very similar instance of lethal force 208 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:51.480 being used when it wasn't necessary, and everyone deciding whether 209 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.879 or not it was necessary on ideological lines, as opposed 210 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.320 to looking at the evidence in front of us and 211 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:58.759 being honest about what we see. 212 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.759 Number one, the Secondmendment of right. I'm our second moment, absolutist. 213 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.799 You have the right to carry a weapon to defend yourself, 214 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:06.600 not the privilege. 215 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:07.240 It is a right. 216 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.759 Those rights come with restrictions. I think you would understand 217 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.840 that more than anyone at this table. One of those 218 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.600 restrictions is you have to have your ID and your 219 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.960 permit on you. We don't know. Current reports are he 220 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:17.480 didn't have either one of those owns, at which point 221 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:18.440 he's not carrying legally. 222 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.240 So this is how far we've fallen. 223 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:25.159 We now have a second amendment, absolutists on Fox News 224 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.679 arguing that you have to have your permit otherwise I 225 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:30.559 guess you could be shot. 226 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:34.480 I don't know what the fucking argument is. Oh, it's 227 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:35.720 an absolute. 228 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.559 God given right. No, you don't need your fucking permit. 229 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.039 We shouldn't be arguing that that is shit. 230 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:42.480 Liverery. Hello. 231 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.559 We've been arguing against this stuff my entire life, and 232 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.639 now because it's a leftist that gets shot all of 233 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:49.279 a sudden, he. 234 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:50.039 Didn't have his permit. 235 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.399 He didn't have his permit, so you know, whatever happens 236 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.639 to him after that, all good. Was lethal violence necessary 237 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:02.279 or not? The answer is no, Oh, he represented no threat. 238 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.559 He had not drawn, he had not swung, he had 239 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.200 not done anything to be violent. Yes he resisted arrest, 240 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.480 and yes he should have been arrested for interfering with 241 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.840 their operations. I'll grant you that, But beyond that, I 242 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.840 don't know how you make any argument that lethal use 243 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.639 of force was justified in this case. And I will 244 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:24.519 tell you the truth, I'd be very surprised if these 245 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.600 agents don't end up under arrest, and as has become 246 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:31.039 all too common. Nick Fuentes and I part ways. Let 247 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.879 me explain because this is such an inversion of reality. 248 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:35.159 It's honestly disturbing to me. 249 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.080 You stand in the middle of the street with your 250 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.559 loaded gun, you run up on board of patrol trying 251 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:42.840 to arrest somebody, and get in the middle of that. 252 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:48.240 At that point in time, you forfeit your life. 253 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:49.639 Okay. 254 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:53.639 Would it be ideal if he were detained and arrested, 255 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:59.720 certainly if they knew his intentions, But they don't. They 256 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:03.159 don't know your intentions. What they see is that they 257 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.480 are surrounded, They are being chased through the streets, They 258 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:11.840 are being harassed. A masked man with a loaded gun 259 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:16.200 is running up to them at close range and getting physical. 260 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:21.159 What conclusion can they draw in a split second? What 261 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:22.840 really do you expect them to do? 262 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:23.440 So? 263 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:29.200 Nick says that if you interfere with federal law enforcement operations, 264 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:32.919 you forfeit your life. No, you don't. You don't forfeit 265 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.480 your life. Now, should you be arrested, Sure, I'll grant 266 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.480 you that again, but you do not forfeit your life 267 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:41.679 unless you are a violent threat. 268 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:42.480 And he was not. 269 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.679 And then Nick proceeds to invert reality in a way 270 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:49.759 that's honestly so brazen. I'm disturbed by it. He says 271 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:54.840 that they don't know what his intentions are. Okay, sure, 272 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.000 does Alex know what their intentions are? Does he know 273 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.440 he's about to be shot? He didn't know their intentions. 274 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:06.840 Then he says that they're surrounded. No, Alex was surrounded 275 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:10.879 on the ground by seven agents, two women, are you know, 276 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.759 five six feet away? None of the other protesters have 277 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.240 sprinted up on them and have surrounded them. None of 278 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:21.080 that's happening. You have seven Border patrol agents surrounding one man, 279 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.840 one man on the ground who you have essentially already 280 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:29.159 subdued and already removed his firearms that he couldn't even 281 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.919 present a real threat to you. And then the inversion 282 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.399 gets even more dramatic, and that he says, well, they've 283 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.559 got this man that they don't know his intentions, and 284 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:39.320 he's masked. 285 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:41.440 He is not masked. 286 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.399 They all are federal law enforcement agents are all masked up. 287 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:47.240 He is not. 288 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.279 They are all armed, he is not. When the shot 289 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.320 gets fired. I mean, this is pure inversion of reality. Now, 290 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.320 I understand Nick Fontes is very in favor of deportations. 291 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.879 I am two. We make that very clear. I am 292 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:06.600 very much in favor of deportations. That does not mean 293 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:09.840 we have to lie about what happened. What he said, 294 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.440 there is a lie. Three of those bullet points that 295 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:17.720 he listed off were abject provable lies, in fact, inversions 296 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.799 of reality attributing to Alex pretty what in fact the 297 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.639 border patrol agents were doing. It's crazy. Now Nick goes 298 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:28.759 on to make some very valid points that in fact, 299 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:34.559 these are pretty radical people, genuinely ideologically possessed and genuinely 300 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.879 committed to fighting the federal government in a way that 301 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:42.759 is ill advised, particularly given the circumstances that we're facing 302 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.720 right now, particularly given that, in fact, yes, Donald Trump, 303 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.840 if he had a mandate for anything, it was deportations. 304 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:52.960 It was to build the wall. It's not as if 305 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.519 that was a secret. That was basically the number one 306 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.840 thing he campaigned on for a decade straight. So if 307 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:02.720 you believe in democracy at all, and you believe in 308 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.079 the will of the majority, well the majority wanted deportations. 309 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.920 That is true, and it is true that these people 310 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.000 are trying to prevent that from happening. But it is 311 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.319 also true, and this is the point that they seem 312 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:17.079 to continuously miss, is that it is also true that 313 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.599 if you have bad shoots like this and you lie 314 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:24.400 about it and you pretend as if it's justified, and worse, 315 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:28.000 you argue that it's totally okay, Well then you're going 316 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:33.119 to lose the public's support, the public will to carry 317 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.400 out mass deportations. And I'm not guessing at this that's 318 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:40.599 exactly what happened. From a few months ago to now. 319 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.839 Trump had a plus ten on immigration enforcement deportations, and 320 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.160 now he's underwater by like fifteen or twenty points. It's crazy, 321 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.680 Like the swing is enormous. Now, to be clear, I'm 322 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.440 not advocating that they stop because the public is getting queasy. 323 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:00.039 I'm advocating that they enforce the laws, but that it 324 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.720 also applies to the cops or the Border patrol agents 325 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.920 who fired on this man unnecessarily. I think you have 326 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.759 to uphold the rule of law on both sides of 327 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:15.559 this dispute, lest you just relegate yourself to some sort 328 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.240 of mad Max hellscape, which is where we appear to 329 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.559 be headed. And one of the most bizarre counter arguments 330 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:22.839 I keep getting is there seems to be this belief 331 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.440 for this implication that because I think that this was 332 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.079 a bad shoot and that these officers ought to be investigated, 333 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:31.000 and if this footage is as damning as it appears, 334 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:35.359 ought to be charged and prosecuted, that that means that, Oh, 335 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.119 I'm too soft for this. Oh you don't actually want deportations. 336 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:42.519 Oh you don't want yet. No, I actually want way 337 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.240 more deportations than probably any of you do. I am 338 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:49.759 arguing explicitly that you will get no deportations if you 339 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.079 don't get your shit in order, because you need the 340 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:55.119 public to be on your side to a significant extent, 341 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.359 or you end up with every city in America looking 342 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.400 like Minneapolis as you try to carry out these deportations. 343 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.279 Get it, And instead we've got the head of the 344 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.160 FBI saying stupid shit like this. 345 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.880 But as Secretary Nomes said, no one who wants to 346 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.200 be peaceful shows up as a protest with a firearm 347 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.599 that is loaded with two full magazines. That is not 348 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.880 a peaceful protest. And you do not get the touch 349 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:20.440 law enforcement. You do that anywhere, This FBI is going 350 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:24.519 to be following, leaving the charge to arrest those But how. 351 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.839 Was he threatening border patrol? 352 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.640 You've collected the evidence, you said, right, you have the 353 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:29.359 handgun in. 354 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:31.599 Your possession, that's right. 355 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:34.119 And how was he using. 356 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.799 That handgun in terms of threatening border patrol? What was 357 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:37.200 the threat? 358 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:39.000 He had his camera right, he was filming it. 359 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:42.519 That's something that I will let the DHS and the 360 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.079 prosecutors because they are the ones investigating that case. I 361 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.319 don't want to stylize that evidence, but I trust the 362 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.960 men and women on the ground, who are trained professionals, 363 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.039 to only use it when it's absolutely necessary. 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So far, 393 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:24.640 it looks as if there's been about two million people 394 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:28.279 who have left, most of them voluntarily because they're fearful 395 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:31.720 of deportation, I guess, but there has been from my read, 396 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.599 three hundred to five hundred thousand somewhere in there. I 397 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.960 can't I can't get a clear handle on it of 398 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.200 actual forcible deportations over the past year, barely an increase 399 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:46.079 from historical deportation figures. So we're not even coming close 400 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:50.160 to what people are demanding. We're not coming close to 401 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.240