Speaker 1: Oh, fellow bizard, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jacob and we have the man, the myth, the legend,
Speaker 2: Zachary King, ex Satanic Wizard. Welcome to the show, my
Speaker 2: good man.
Speaker 3: Thank you for inviting me back.
Speaker 2: We are so hype about this now. We've been wanting
Speaker 2: to do a P. Diddy show here for a little while.
Speaker 2: And you know, every now and again I get these
Speaker 2: these like I don't want to say brilliant thoughts, but
Speaker 2: almost thoughts that are handed down to me from the heavens.
Speaker 2: And one of those thoughts said, you need to get
Speaker 2: Zachary King on for this show, because if anybody knows
Speaker 2: that kind of industry and how all that black melt
Speaker 2: stuff really works, I feel like, at least as far
Speaker 2: as our connections, you're the guy.
Speaker 4: No doubt so.
Speaker 5: Actually, Zachary, just a quick tutorial for anybody who hasn't which,
Speaker 5: by the way, the episodes where you have been on
Speaker 5: are in our top five most listened to episodes ever
Speaker 5: period ever, and that is a record that still holds
Speaker 5: true today and the numbers keep growing. People are still
Speaker 5: going back and listening to episodes from way back when,
Speaker 5: and they're still hearing your story for the first time.
Speaker 5: So if we have a new cult member who may
Speaker 5: not have gone back and listened to those and they're
Speaker 5: wondering who who is this ex Satanic wquizer, give a
Speaker 5: quick background as to who you are and where you
Speaker 5: come from, and it will make a lot more sense.
Speaker 5: Why Jonathan brought it to me and I was like, Bro,
Speaker 5: we have to do this at like one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Why you are the only person that we would bring
Speaker 5: in to speak on p diddy.
Speaker 3: Let's see, I joined my first Satanic coven when I
Speaker 3: was twelve. I started practicing magic at ten, and that's
Speaker 3: magic that spelled m ag ic K as Aleister Crowley
Speaker 3: had a the K, so you'd know the difference in
Speaker 3: sleight of hand and Satanic magic.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I joined my first officially joined my first government at thirteen.
Speaker 3: I believed I'd sold my soul to the devil. At fourteen,
Speaker 3: I performed my first assistant abortion. At eighteen, I graduated
Speaker 3: from high.
Speaker 5: School, went to colic that assisted abortion that was for
Speaker 5: the purpose of a ritual. Correct, It's not like you
Speaker 5: were like volunteering at a planned parenthood that was that
Speaker 5: was for the purpose of something evil.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, if you're doing a hex, which is the
Speaker 3: worst spell of Satanist has or witch has. Now, some
Speaker 3: Satanists don't do the an abortion to go with the hex,
Speaker 3: but are my two covens that I have been part
Speaker 3: of did Because you say that the hex is you
Speaker 3: need something that you really somebody wants it bad enough
Speaker 3: to pay for it. So you need to offer Satan
Speaker 3: something that he wants, and then he'll give you something
Speaker 3: you want. And the unfortunate thing is there's nothing that
Speaker 3: would make it equal for you to get for you
Speaker 3: to kill a baby, right, even if you could get
Speaker 3: a trillion dollars for it, what's that baby's life worth.
Speaker 3: It's got to be more than a trillion dollars, right,
Speaker 3: Yet people are willing, Oh, I can get a million dollars,
Speaker 3: kill as many babies as you want. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like somehow there's a disconnect. Here's here's the disconnect
Speaker 3: to me. Why is it If you're riding down this
Speaker 3: and you see a woman with a stroller on the sidewalk,
Speaker 3: you won't drive up on the curb, but boom, take
Speaker 3: her out. Keep going. I won't do that, But you'll
Speaker 3: go to a planned parenthood and say, murder my baby
Speaker 3: that's inside me. I mean, where is one's a baby
Speaker 3: and one's not. Where is that?
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Well, they like to get away with calling it a fetus.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not a baby yet. That's that's the divide.
Speaker 3: Well, we as Christians claim that it's a baby at
Speaker 3: conception as soon as the sperm meets the egg, instant baby,
Speaker 3: instant guardian angel.
Speaker 2: Which by the way, that has been proven scientifically. You know,
Speaker 2: they they watch as soon as the sperm meets the egg,
Speaker 2: there's a little jolt of light that goes that jumps
Speaker 2: into the cell seemingly from nowhere. And so you know,
Speaker 2: us being well, I'm not I'm not a Christian or
Speaker 2: a Catholic or anything, but I'm at least I can
Speaker 2: see that as like that's a spiritual thing that's going
Speaker 2: on right there. You know, you have to be.
Speaker 3: A Christian or Catholic to have morals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very true, to know that right and wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you were sick, you said fourteen or sixteen
Speaker 5: when you first assisted a abortion for the purpose of
Speaker 5: a hex I was.
Speaker 3: Fourteen fourteen away from turning fifteen.
Speaker 5: Okay, and then you said I think you were going
Speaker 5: on You said eighteen.
Speaker 4: It was the next milestone, so to speak.
Speaker 3: Eighteen. I was graduating from high school and I went
Speaker 3: to college, and I wanted to find another Satanic coven.
Speaker 3: And I figured, I'm not going to find one because
Speaker 3: they're not going to advertise at the town square. Sure
Speaker 3: I did, so I joined the Satanic coven. I wasn't
Speaker 3: into what they were into, and I was looking for
Speaker 3: like I had read a book during the summer that
Speaker 3: mentioned a Satanic coven that did work with the Illuminati
Speaker 3: and went to Bohemian Grove. Never heard of Bohemian Grove
Speaker 3: or the Ilyuminati. But they sound like power players, power brokers.
Speaker 5: You said this was after you graduated college or while
Speaker 5: you were still in college.
Speaker 3: No, I graduate. I graduated high school.
Speaker 4: Graduated high school. You were going into college.
Speaker 5: So when you first found the Bohemian Grove coven, you
Speaker 5: were give or take how old?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: Eighteen eighteen nineteen, gotcha, you know, and they had I
Speaker 3: called my first coven and I said, this place isn't
Speaker 3: what I'm looking for in a coven. And I've heard
Speaker 3: about these two places. I don't know if this is real.
Speaker 3: And they said, you want the World Church of Satan
Speaker 3: or Satan's World Church, two different names, same coven. Okay,
Speaker 3: he goes call this number. Answer, you know, say a
Speaker 3: few things in the in the voicemail, and then when
Speaker 3: you go to wherever they send you, to take your
Speaker 3: ID because they're going to want make sure that your
Speaker 3: name matches. You know, your real name matches the name
Speaker 3: you gave. I was like, all right, so don't lie, gotcha.
Speaker 3: So I call the number and left a message, and
Speaker 3: then soon after that they called me back, gave me
Speaker 3: an address to go to and said that I'll probably
Speaker 3: have to park about two miles away. I was like,
Speaker 3: why would I have to do that? But I got there.
Speaker 3: I went all the way up to the building. I
Speaker 3: drove up there and then realized once I was there,
Speaker 3: there's no place to park. There's a huge parking lot,
Speaker 3: but all the parking lots are packed, and they have
Speaker 3: security guards that tell you this is all full. So
Speaker 3: you drive to the next one. This is all full,
Speaker 3: and you drive to the next one. After a while,
Speaker 3: I'm about two miles away, you know, and the guy
Speaker 3: that sees me, you know, he's like, yeah, we have
Speaker 3: some spots over here. So I parked my car and
Speaker 3: walk up to him and they're like, how far away
Speaker 3: are we? Hecause it's about two miles. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to hope it for a while, you know. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: you're a security guard. Don't you have a car?
Speaker 4: Right right? Can you hop on the golf cart with you?
Speaker 3: Bro? I mean shit, right right? You know what's wrong
Speaker 3: with this? Yeah? People really breaking into cars out of here?
Speaker 4: Come on right right right?
Speaker 3: So you know, he's like, you know, you better start now. Okay, Fine,
Speaker 3: So I walked two miles and you know, it's about
Speaker 3: forty five minutes later, I'm there. I do have to
Speaker 3: give my ID to get in. And it's about the
Speaker 3: size of a Super Walmart, but I don't even know
Speaker 3: if Super Walmart existed back then. It was huge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I went inside and there's this big, heavy, black
Speaker 3: curtain that's the first thing you see. And then they
Speaker 3: moved that out of the way for you. And this room,
Speaker 3: this building has about ten thousand people in it. And
Speaker 3: that ends up being World Church of Satan. That's what
Speaker 3: I joined. That was when I was eighteen. When I
Speaker 3: was twenty one, they picked me to be the High Wizard.
Speaker 3: And as the High Wizard, one of your jobs is
Speaker 3: making rock stars, which is why you have me here
Speaker 3: today now. And you know, you do a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff and you travel around. You speak with millionaires and billionaires,
Speaker 3: political people, presidents, kings and queens, rock stars, actors.
Speaker 4: You know, people of influence and power.
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, And I worked with the Illuminati for twelve years.
Speaker 3: I went to bolam Merove eighteen times. I know that
Speaker 3: seems like, how can you go eighteen times when they're
Speaker 3: only open for cremation of care? But they're not just
Speaker 3: open for cremation of care that they're open in February, May, July,
Speaker 3: and October, so cremation of care happens once a year.
Speaker 3: But you can get invited there as long as there's
Speaker 3: a billionaire that wants you, you can get in.
Speaker 5: So off tangent question, But I am curious about this.
Speaker 5: Why is a Bohemian grove open during the winter solstice?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: There are like certain big, big, quote unquote festivals that
Speaker 5: a lot of other cultures and even the Satanic Church
Speaker 5: recognize in certain ways.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised they're not open during the winter solstice as well,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Not fair enough, I would when you're a member of it.
Speaker 3: Billionaires are invited, if political figures are invited, I am
Speaker 3: only invited because I'm an end, a means to an end.
Speaker 4: Gotcha.
Speaker 3: It was like I do magic. They invite me because
Speaker 3: I'm like a mover and a shaker in a way
Speaker 3: when they call me and they want something done. I
Speaker 3: don't always use magic. Sometimes I know which levers to pull,
Speaker 3: our buttons to push. No, that if you cannot pass
Speaker 3: a bill so that you can build a building, that
Speaker 3: there's a form you can fill out and you just
Speaker 3: have to fill that out and put it on the
Speaker 3: right person's desk and you get to build your building. Sure, magic,
Speaker 3: you know, but I found that out early in my career.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, you mean I don't have to
Speaker 3: do a magic spell and have that count against me.
Speaker 3: All I got to do is fill out this form
Speaker 3: and put it on that person's desk. Sign me up.
Speaker 3: And there was a bunch of stuff that I got approved.
Speaker 3: Going that route. You just had the building, the person,
Speaker 3: you know, where to go, what time to be there.
Speaker 3: You know, some people, the main person goes to lunch
Speaker 3: from twelve to two. Whoever fills in their position will
Speaker 3: approve anything, no matter what it is, they'll approve it.
Speaker 2: That's real power rate there, dude. Like you know, it's
Speaker 2: the connections that you make. And that was something you know,
Speaker 2: whenever I was living in Louisiana, I didn't really have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of connections whenever I first moved there,
Speaker 2: and it was like a few years that I had
Speaker 2: lived there until I graduated high school. And whenever I
Speaker 2: was there, I like all of my friends were getting
Speaker 2: into the plant and I couldn't get into the plant.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't really know anybody. And all the people
Speaker 2: that I knew that were in the plant, they were
Speaker 2: just you know, the bottom of the barrel, basically helpers.
Speaker 2: They didn't really have any kind of pool or any
Speaker 2: kind of say so. But all of those people they
Speaker 2: knew people that were already a part of the plant.
Speaker 2: They already had those kind of connections. And so you
Speaker 2: being at that high ranking position that you were, all
Speaker 2: the connections that you were able to form. I mean
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I get it. Why do magic if
Speaker 2: you don't have to?
Speaker 5: Rightude, There's been experience, like a social experiment though, just
Speaker 5: watched basically with an orange vest, a clipboard and aid
Speaker 5: badge dangling from your neck could be blank.
Speaker 4: Doesn't even have to have anything in the little sleeve.
Speaker 4: Just to have this leave the lanyard on your neck.
Speaker 4: You could pretty much get into any place.
Speaker 5: Ever if you walk with authority, like you're in the
Speaker 5: middle of something and you don't have time to talk
Speaker 5: to the security guard and you're just like whatever. Bro
Speaker 5: an orange vest and a clipboard will get you in
Speaker 5: to places.
Speaker 4: So one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: And like you said, you learn certain things, certain things
Speaker 5: you need magic for certain things you don't. But to
Speaker 5: your point, you would get called to Bohemian grow because
Speaker 5: they wanted you for specific things. Like you didn't just
Speaker 5: show up because you were a member of the clique.
Speaker 5: You were called to show up to perform, right right.
Speaker 3: That's like when I used to go to Builderberg meetings.
Speaker 3: They don't want me there. I'm a clown in a
Speaker 3: tuxedo and they don't want to have to talk to me.
Speaker 3: They don't want to sit next to me, they don't
Speaker 3: want to have anything to.
Speaker 4: Do with me.
Speaker 3: But but I recognize that they cannot get something's done
Speaker 3: without the High Wizard, so they have to put up
Speaker 3: with me. Yeah. Yeah, they weren't happy with me at all.
Speaker 3: You know, I used to mess with them. I'm sitting
Speaker 3: at this big boardroom table. I mean it's like forty
Speaker 3: feet long, and there's empty seats on either side of me.
Speaker 3: The other side has everybody in the room. And I
Speaker 3: would tell you people be standing up. They're clearly tired
Speaker 3: of standing up. And I went, hey, you want to
Speaker 3: come here and sit next to me? Like I would
Speaker 3: wink at these people, Hey, I want to sit next to.
Speaker 2: Me just to mess with them, just.
Speaker 3: To mess with them, because I know they're not coming.
Speaker 3: They're next to me, that they're not going to do anything.
Speaker 3: You know, they're some of the morning. I just said something,
Speaker 3: you know, and and they're not. They're not moving. I
Speaker 3: was like, your feet must be tired. You've been on
Speaker 3: for a while. You want to come over here and
Speaker 3: sit next to me? How about this? And I shoved
Speaker 3: the chair away and be like, how about now chairs
Speaker 3: further away from me. Now, before you decide to run
Speaker 3: over here and jump in it, let me show you
Speaker 3: a magic trick. And I put my hand up and
Speaker 3: the chair rolling back to me. Oh brouh, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Where you are in the room. You're sitting across from me,
Speaker 3: I can still bring you over here.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is I mean it's pretty cool. It's
Speaker 2: pretty cool, even though it's like Satanic or whatever. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants to be involved in that kind of shit. But
Speaker 2: if it wasn't Satanic, that would be cool.
Speaker 5: It's a flex dude in a room of the build
Speaker 5: of Bergs with these powerful people like yo messing with
Speaker 5: them on that level. You watch these powerful men get
Speaker 5: that shooketh look in their eye.
Speaker 4: I mean that's a flex I get.
Speaker 3: It, you know. And they, on the other hand, they
Speaker 3: could kill me. Sure, they could all pull out guns
Speaker 3: and just blow me away, but my magic was so strong.
Speaker 3: I don't know if demons would have stopped the bullets
Speaker 3: from hitting me, or they'll let me die. I don't know.
Speaker 3: None of that was ever, you know tested, but I
Speaker 3: know that they were scared to do something to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean right, It's like you
Speaker 2: might fear repercussions if you shot the Satanic Wizard.
Speaker 5: You might want the Satanic Worldwide coven pissed at you
Speaker 5: to the day you just killed their boy.
Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, we're gonna put some respect on
Speaker 4: that name.
Speaker 2: All the beings of the underworld. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: you'd you'ld fear. I mean, it's all fine and dandy
Speaker 2: whenever you're around you know, your security guards and shit.
Speaker 2: But what happens when you go to sleep, bitch?
Speaker 4: You know, for espionage?
Speaker 5: You ever had your fortune five hundred company disintegrated from
Speaker 5: demonic forces? You want to be the first bro like yo,
Speaker 5: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: You know. They yeah, they they did not like me
Speaker 3: very much, But I never heard that they didn't like.
Speaker 3: I just knew they didn't like.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 5: Your makeup and top had was a bit off putting
Speaker 5: in certain environments, So I get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well, there's a similar story going back the
Speaker 3: other way. I turned down one request for a magic
Speaker 3: spell in my life, and you know, I always felt like,
Speaker 3: if you're going to pay a half a million dollars
Speaker 3: or more for your magic spell, you deserve to have
Speaker 3: it done, no matter how nefarious it is. If you're
Speaker 3: willing to pay big money for it, you should get it.
Speaker 3: And I had to meet with these people. I don't
Speaker 3: know who they were. They're dressed very nice, I mean
Speaker 3: very nice. And they said that they wanted me to
Speaker 3: do a magic spell I would clear the way for
Speaker 3: an assassination of a pope. And I said, no, it's
Speaker 3: somebody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the guy's like, are you Catholic? No, I'm a Satanist,
Speaker 3: is why don't you do it? I said, I said no,
Speaker 3: And they're not allowed to ask me these questions. They
Speaker 3: just had to be pissed off. Go to a different
Speaker 3: high wizard. I mean, there could be up to ten
Speaker 3: of us in the world, so what's the big deal.
Speaker 3: Just go to a different one. But I didn't tell
Speaker 3: anybody my reason for saying no. Now, all I know
Speaker 3: about the Catholic Church is my dad told me when
Speaker 3: I was eight years old that they were all going
Speaker 3: to help. So I thought, well, all the Catholics are
Speaker 3: going to help. I'll eventually see him one day. But
Speaker 3: I know that they have priests, and they have bishops
Speaker 3: and archbishops and cardinals and a pope, and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know what a high priest and a high priestess
Speaker 3: can do. And I know I'm stronger than high priests
Speaker 3: and eye priestesses, right, But am I stronger than a
Speaker 3: capitalo priest? I don't know. And how many of these
Speaker 3: guys must there be, you know, and I'm thinking they're
Speaker 3: all over the world. Is that ten thousand? Is it
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand? I mean, And let's say that I
Speaker 3: clear the way and their pope gets assassinated? Are they
Speaker 3: going to know that a high wizard did it? Are
Speaker 3: they going? Are all these priests, however many there are
Speaker 3: gonna come after me?
Speaker 4: Yeah? This is gold kickstart a spiritual, actual war.
Speaker 3: Right you know. It's like, am I strong enough to defeat, say,
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand priests? I don't know, and I don't
Speaker 3: want to give it a shot.
Speaker 2: It sounds about right, though, because yeah, I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: like just on the outside looking in looking at the
Speaker 2: Catholic Church, it absolutely I mean to me anyway, seems
Speaker 2: like the most powerful church of all of them, you know.
Speaker 2: And and maybe it's because I mean I went to
Speaker 2: a Catholic mass one time. It seemed very ritualistic. That's
Speaker 2: just me on the outside looking in. But like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're eating the bread, and you're you know, you're drinking
Speaker 2: the juice, you're standing up, you're sitting down. There's an
Speaker 2: authority whenever the what is it the priests that's up
Speaker 2: there speaking, and it's very like it's very orchestrated, you know,
Speaker 2: and organized.
Speaker 3: And yeah, very over years of tradition.
Speaker 5: Right, And I mean from that perspective of like maybe
Speaker 5: if maybe you are you stronger than these many priests,
Speaker 5: I see where that's coming from as well. But also like,
Speaker 5: all right, let's be real here, Satanic wizardry has been
Speaker 5: around since the beginning. I am sure there's been more
Speaker 5: than one high wizard that has tried to take out
Speaker 5: a pope before, and there's a reason why it hasn't
Speaker 5: been done.
Speaker 4: I understand your hesitancy.
Speaker 5: It's towards like, hey, if there's you know, I could
Speaker 5: do some other stuff for you, but like that specific homie,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be the first.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, there was time in history, it's in the
Speaker 3: Old Testament, and they weren't called high wizards, but they
Speaker 3: were high wizards. It was the four hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: prophits of Bail. Yeah, and you know they were all
Speaker 3: murdered at the same time, where they were all killed
Speaker 3: at the same time. Yeah, And you know it's like
Speaker 3: that's why we're not allowed to have two high wizards
Speaker 3: in the same place at the same time, and that's
Speaker 3: why I think they also limited. You know, it's between
Speaker 3: two and five, but the number could be as low
Speaker 3: as one or as high as ten, but ten is
Speaker 3: the is the maximum right now because they don't want
Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty of them killed all at once.
Speaker 2: Again, how did they all die in that, I'm not
Speaker 2: familiar with that story. Was it were they smoten like
Speaker 2: by God or how did that work?
Speaker 3: Elijah was being was challenging their God, and they were challenging,
Speaker 3: obviously Elijah's God. And they went to this temple and
Speaker 3: they're outside and there's these it's like a metal dish,
Speaker 3: but it's really large, and they stack wood all over
Speaker 3: it and Elijah's pouring water on his He's just dousing
Speaker 3: it with as much water as he can fit on it.
Speaker 3: Water is pouring off of this display, but he's got
Speaker 3: wood up there and he's telling them and all these
Speaker 3: guys are trying to bring fire from their God to
Speaker 3: burn their their four hundred and fifty displays of wood.
Speaker 5: So yeah, the background of this, this this story is
Speaker 5: famously called the Showdown between God and Bail.
Speaker 4: Okay, And long.
Speaker 5: Story short, there was a which religion is the true one,
Speaker 5: Elijah was saying that his god was.
Speaker 4: They were saying the Bail is the real God.
Speaker 5: So they decide to actually put down a contest Wheen's
Speaker 5: God would make this catch on fire.
Speaker 4: First, Elijah's pouring water all.
Speaker 5: Over his and the priests of Bail are like doing
Speaker 5: their chance and their things.
Speaker 3: And the uh. The Elijah makes a comment to them,
Speaker 3: maybe your God is sitting on the toilet. Maybe he's
Speaker 3: busy and can't be bothered right now. You know, that's
Speaker 3: making them mad, and they're trying to do whatever. When
Speaker 3: finally they're unsuccessful, then he calls upon God, and God
Speaker 3: sends down lightning that ignites his water laden wood and
Speaker 3: also ignites the four hundred and fifty other things that
Speaker 3: are wood. But the lightning is so powerful it kills
Speaker 3: all the four hundred and fifty prophets of Bail.
Speaker 2: You know. But stories like that to where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I could get well, I can't vibe with it, but
Speaker 2: I can understand how somebody could be an atheist. First off,
Speaker 2: like to say that it's all fake, none of it's real. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's one side, But to be a Satanist just out
Speaker 2: of curiosity. Don't you also have to accept that God
Speaker 2: and Jesus and the Bible were all real things, since
Speaker 2: that seems to be the enemy already understood.
Speaker 3: Yep, there's a covenant called the Joy of Satan. Not
Speaker 3: a fantastic name.
Speaker 2: Interesting word there, Joy. That's what Kamala has been using
Speaker 2: a lot lately.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: I don't think she knows what joy is.
Speaker 4: Well, I think she gives it.
Speaker 5: There's been certain elected officials that have really taken joy,
Speaker 5: you know, with her.
Speaker 4: She's a bit of a harlot.
Speaker 5: As it's been known. She slept her position, so you know,
Speaker 5: who knows. Maybe she's known to put a smile on
Speaker 5: a man's face.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't see it now, my cup
Speaker 4: of Joe.
Speaker 2: A couple of moments of joy any way, Yeah, so that.
Speaker 5: Clarity comes in anyway, Where was I?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 2: The Joy of Satan?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Temple of Joy?
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, the Temple of Joy. Sure that's different than
Speaker 3: Almon Joy. So the Joy of Satan has written a
Speaker 3: manifesto on their website. You can go there and read it.
Speaker 3: And in their manifesto, God is the bad guy and
Speaker 3: Satan was the good guy, and this is why they
Speaker 3: worshiped Satan. And their number one goal is the destruction
Speaker 3: of the Catholic Church, and they send people to work
Speaker 3: at the Catholic Church. You apply for a job, you
Speaker 3: get a job as a secretary, and then they slowly
Speaker 3: work at bringing it down. I got contacted by an
Speaker 3: exorcist in I think it was Wisconsin, and and the
Speaker 3: person they were working with was a Joy of Satan member,
Speaker 3: and they're possessed, and they showed her this is what
Speaker 3: position he used to have, and they showed her the
Speaker 3: pink video. And she looked at the guy in the
Speaker 3: pink video and said, if that's the guy you want
Speaker 3: me to call, his magic is very powerful. And they said, no,
Speaker 3: that's he's not that guy, but that's the look he
Speaker 3: used to have, you know. She said, well, that look,
Speaker 3: she said, that's a high wizard and they're very powerful,
Speaker 3: you know. And Joy of Satan, as far as I know,
Speaker 3: is not connected to World Church of Satan. But this
Speaker 3: woman knows, you know, she's possessed and she knows that
Speaker 3: look as igh wizard.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, so she's possessed. So it's basically the demon that's
Speaker 2: saying that's admitting that. Yeah, whoooo, they know maybe they
Speaker 2: It's like they say, you know, you may not believe
Speaker 2: in the devil, but he believes in you. You know.
Speaker 3: There's I used to work, I work the most. I
Speaker 3: worked with a few exorcists, but the one I worked
Speaker 3: with the most was Monsignor Lefemina, who was since passed away.
Speaker 3: But he would call at the at the exorcism when
Speaker 3: we would all show up. The first thing he would
Speaker 3: do is ask who wants to go to confession, and
Speaker 3: so the people go that haven't been yet. Then he
Speaker 3: has a Latin mass, and then after the Latin Mass,
Speaker 3: we launched right into the exorcism and he calls Satan
Speaker 3: before the Tribunal of God and he says, if you
Speaker 3: do that, Satan must appear, He must show up, and
Speaker 3: he must answer for his crimes, you know, like what
Speaker 3: did this person do for you to have the right
Speaker 3: to possess them? And so once Satan says what they did,
Speaker 3: then he has the person and renounce those things, and
Speaker 3: then Satan leaves and we have to do battle with
Speaker 3: the first which is usually well many times is an
Speaker 3: evil spirit that Satan brought out of hell to be
Speaker 3: the first person you do battle with, then from there
Speaker 3: after that person goes. Then you do battle with the
Speaker 3: weakest demon, and you keep working your way up to
Speaker 3: the strongest demon. Many times you don't get all the
Speaker 3: way through it in the first day. You know, we've
Speaker 3: done an exorcism for eight hours. Everybody's exhausted, and there's
Speaker 3: still sixteen demons to go, So you have to make
Speaker 3: an appointment to come do this again. But I was
Speaker 3: in this room. We were going to do battle with
Speaker 3: this kid that was like nineteen and he had gotten
Speaker 3: possessed through born addiction, masturbation, addiction, and heavy metal music.
Speaker 3: And as Satan is saying these things, I'm sitting one
Speaker 3: row behind to his right, and all I do I
Speaker 3: pray rosaries during the exorcism, and I listen to everything
Speaker 3: that said. Then when we take a break, I go
Speaker 3: back and I talk to the priests and I give
Speaker 3: them my You know, this is what I think is
Speaker 3: going on. You know, this I think is a lie.
Speaker 3: This is the truth. So Satan suddenly turns around and
Speaker 3: looks at me and says, Zachary King is not welcomed
Speaker 3: in this exorcism. He's a liar and a traitor, and
Speaker 3: the exorcist takes a picture of holy water and douses
Speaker 3: him in the whole thing and yells silence, you will
Speaker 3: only speak to me and only when spoken to, and
Speaker 3: Satan howled for like three minutes. It was impressive. Somebody
Speaker 3: that practices opera might could do that. The conten year
Speaker 3: old kid ain't the one, you know, So that was
Speaker 3: a yell straight from Satan.
Speaker 2: My good, that had to have been horrifying.
Speaker 3: Well, at the first break, we took a break at
Speaker 3: six hours, and it was me and the extressist and
Speaker 3: two other priests that went into another room to talk
Speaker 3: about what we saw. And as soon as we got
Speaker 3: in this other room, one of the priests said that
Speaker 3: totally gave you street cred. You were just told by
Speaker 3: Satan himself, but you're not welcome here because you're a
Speaker 3: liar and a trader. Who was he to call somebody
Speaker 3: a liar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that is kind of strange, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not like you went into the room and introduced
Speaker 2: you yourself to the kid and said, hey, I used
Speaker 2: to be an ex satanist, I used to be just
Speaker 2: like you or something like that. You know, It's like
Speaker 2: that's that's some paranormal type stuff right there for sure.
Speaker 5: Right, that was somebody or something from the other side
Speaker 5: that knew you from back in the day.
Speaker 4: It's well people, right exactly.
Speaker 5: And you know, there's so much evidence to when it
Speaker 5: comes to real possessions. Yes, there is examples of people
Speaker 5: who are schizophrenic, okay, and it's.
Speaker 4: Not a real demonic possession.
Speaker 5: It is split personality disorder or something like that that
Speaker 5: does in fact exist in.
Speaker 4: The real world.
Speaker 5: But there is far too many examples of something like
Speaker 5: that where it's like that kid has never heard the
Speaker 5: name Zachary King, nor would he know to bring it
Speaker 5: up in this time and place when he's in a
Speaker 5: trans like state being spoken at with a priest and like, no,
Speaker 5: what the hell was that? And it's like, no, No,
Speaker 5: this is real life, like demons, angels, this whole thing.
Speaker 4: It's real, real dude.
Speaker 2: There's this show it's called Evil. Have you ever seen it?
Speaker 4: I heard it, dude.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 2: I think it's on Netflix. Yeah, and it's the It's
Speaker 2: the Big Dude. If you ever like, I'm a Marvel dork,
Speaker 2: but that guy he played Luke Cage or a super
Speaker 2: strong guy right, But he's like in training to be
Speaker 2: a priest or something along the h and training to
Speaker 2: be yeah, something like that, and and he's like involved
Speaker 2: in a lot of you know, uh, these these people
Speaker 2: who have been taken over, you know, by by demons
Speaker 2: and whatnot, and it is pretty interesting. Like some of them,
Speaker 2: some of them are really like you know, some of
Speaker 2: them are definitely fake, Like you can absolutely point to
Speaker 2: some of them. Some of them are just like they're
Speaker 2: just crazy fucking people and they're trying to get a
Speaker 2: little rouse out of you. But then you see some
Speaker 2: other ones and you're like, this dude's speaking Latin what
Speaker 2: you know, Like they're.
Speaker 5: Able to produce a like a metal yell, like a
Speaker 5: scream yell that can last. Like okay, again, if this
Speaker 5: was like a trained metal head who had been doing
Speaker 5: stage performances night after night for like ten years and
Speaker 5: he could let out that kind of thing, Okay, he's
Speaker 5: been trained to do that. Some kid who has never
Speaker 5: done that before is not going to be able to
Speaker 5: produce that type of sound for that long. I'm saying
Speaker 5: that as a metal head, I'm it's it's damn near impossible.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: It was like hear something like that, and you're thinking
Speaker 3: it's this guy from Steelheart.
Speaker 4: Yeah for real, Yeah, it's been a hot minute. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I like, uh, I prefer like old school thrash metal
Speaker 5: as opposed to a lot of the modern stuff. I
Speaker 5: feel it to be whiny these days. But you know,
Speaker 5: at the same time as I'm saying that, like, for one,
Speaker 5: I love Slayer. However, if you look at the lyrics
Speaker 5: that Slayer is singing about, it's very much not a
Speaker 5: positive message. But I can't deny the music and the
Speaker 5: hard beats to it all. That's what I love about it.
Speaker 5: It was only once I really looked at the lyrics,
Speaker 5: I'm like, ah, there's a spirit attached to this man,
Speaker 5: And I like, for a second, I was like, maybe
Speaker 5: it's just for the artistic.
Speaker 4: Flair, right, to get a rise out of people.
Speaker 5: They're they're taking the edgy approach for the sake of
Speaker 5: being edgy, And there are some artists that are doing that.
Speaker 5: But then there's others that are clearly very open about
Speaker 5: what they are and who they are, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Maybe some I mean, words are spells. We've done a
Speaker 2: couple of those episodes, right and you can call them spells,
Speaker 2: you can call them invocations, evocations like and it's if
Speaker 2: you look at it, like most of that occultic stuff,
Speaker 2: it is artistic in nature. Like that's the way they
Speaker 2: like to spin it, for sure, because you know, whenever
Speaker 2: you're getting together for a gathering for your cult or whatever, Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of magic if you if you just
Speaker 2: look into how to perform like some certain magic rituals, Dude,
Speaker 2: there is absolutely an artistic flair. You got certain representations
Speaker 2: representing something that you know is going into your subconscious
Speaker 2: mind and all that stuff. So you can see within music,
Speaker 2: within music, videos, within movies, TV shows, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: within politics even I mean, look how Washington, DC is
Speaker 2: set up. Is that a coincidence that it's set up
Speaker 2: like a set up like a pentagram? You know, like
Speaker 2: it's it's wild.
Speaker 5: But especially in the music industry, dude, Like there's a
Speaker 5: reason why in freemasonry, music is one of the crafts
Speaker 5: that you can dedicate your life to studying. And why
Speaker 5: even in the ancient times, musicians have always been a
Speaker 5: classification of themselves because you're right, words are spells, and
Speaker 5: when you couple that with musical notes, and frequencies and vibrations.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many rituals you've been to, but
Speaker 5: the ones that I have been found myself a part
Speaker 5: of nothing satanic. It was mostly Nordic pagan which we
Speaker 5: could have that talk another day. But there was drums
Speaker 5: right there. There was instruments being played, and like that
Speaker 5: was a part of it all. So I mean and
Speaker 5: look at even in mass and in certain services of Christianity,
Speaker 5: music is a part of it, right, There's there's a
Speaker 5: reason why all of that flows together.
Speaker 4: I think it absolutely ties in.
Speaker 3: Well. Music is the only medium that you can't stop
Speaker 3: from talking directly to your soul. But even if you
Speaker 3: put earmuffs on, you still have that beat. It still
Speaker 3: gets to your soul, you know, and you can't stop
Speaker 3: it from getting to your soul. So what shocks me
Speaker 3: those when I give my dogs and people will say, well,
Speaker 3: surely this person has never done anything wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: as far as magically goes. And you know, I said,
Speaker 3: who watches the halftime at the super Bowl? How many
Speaker 3: people saw Madonna at the halftime at the super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Jeddy ripped out like.
Speaker 3: A Witchcraft outfit with headdress involved. You don't notice that
Speaker 3: did you not see? I think it was at the
Speaker 3: Grammys one year and it was Katie Perry doing black Horse,
Speaker 3: which she's got broomsticks on the stage and a bunch
Speaker 3: of women dressed like witches and they're all doing a
Speaker 3: ritual and no one blinks an eye, no one is shot.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 3: What is that? Nicki Minaj? Oh God, Nicki Minaj got
Speaker 3: exercised on by a fake priest. But she's having an
Speaker 3: exorcism and she's manifesting, and it's like, yeah, this is
Speaker 3: done a sent.
Speaker 2: Oh we'll be getting into her today as we eventually
Speaker 2: get into Diddy. I mean, I love hearing about this whole,
Speaker 2: this whole like satanist satanistic stuff, and I think that
Speaker 2: it is very important to really learn about all this
Speaker 2: stuff so that you can be aware of it. Like
Speaker 2: a lot of people they'll watch, you know, just TV.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll they'll slip into that, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of like a lower subconscious state where you're kind of
Speaker 2: in like a trance to where you're kind of being
Speaker 2: taught at a subconscious level, not even really knowing what's
Speaker 2: going on. And that's why, you know, we see certain
Speaker 2: things and we become like, you know, almost not even
Speaker 2: afflicted by certain things that you see on TV because
Speaker 2: and then you see him in reality and it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: no big deal. I mean, I've seen it on TV
Speaker 2: a million times, Orr, I played it on the video
Speaker 2: game a million times, you know, and it's it's it's
Speaker 2: definitely it's it's not a good it's not a good
Speaker 2: thing to where you know, you can walk past a
Speaker 2: dead body in the street and it doesn't even affect you,
Speaker 2: even if it's the first dead body you've ever seen,
Speaker 2: because subconsciously you've seen that a million times.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: And so as we kind of were talking about the
Speaker 5: music of it all, and so your background with the
Speaker 5: Satanic groups and the covens and all of that, if
Speaker 5: anybody does want to hear the rest of your story,
Speaker 5: I highly advise them to go check out the previous
Speaker 5: episodes where you've been on.
Speaker 4: It is a very deep dive into your whole walk.
Speaker 5: But just I wanted to talk a little bit about
Speaker 5: that so we could give people the context and a
Speaker 5: little bit of the background of who you are if
Speaker 5: they've never heard of you before. Right, So, now we're
Speaker 5: talking about the music, and now we're talking industry. Talk
Speaker 5: to me about this P Diddy situation, because when you
Speaker 5: were in this position as a Satanic high wizard, you
Speaker 5: were in a position to make blackmail and certain things
Speaker 5: have like this. So when you heard about P Diddy,
Speaker 5: you were you even shocked or did you know about it?
Speaker 3: Like no, Because I've been doing these talks since twenty
Speaker 3: ten and I've talked about a lot of different rock stars.
Speaker 3: And when I say rock star, that the umbrella over everybody.
Speaker 3: So I mean I've worked with opera, country, R and B, rap,
Speaker 3: heavy metal, rock and roll. You know, there's a genre
Speaker 3: name for it. I've probably worked with it, you know.
Speaker 3: And I help people become quote unquote rock stars, you know.
Speaker 3: And how this first starts out is that you go
Speaker 3: to a warehouse deal. I'm pretty sure I told you
Speaker 3: this story the last time I was on. But you
Speaker 3: go to a warehouse deal, and at a warehouse deal,
Speaker 3: somebody has heard from their agent, their publicists, their director,
Speaker 3: their producer, friend, another rock band. This is the warehouse
Speaker 3: you need to go to. You need to get on
Speaker 3: their mailing list and they'll tell you when the next
Speaker 3: event's going to happen, and then just be ready to
Speaker 3: do the unexpected. You know, they're going to give you
Speaker 3: a business card and you have to call that number
Speaker 3: and be willing to do anything. And so you know,
Speaker 3: I get there, I've got I'm the high Wizard, I've
Speaker 3: got an entourage with me, I've got security personnel, and
Speaker 3: then I've also got these people with clipboards. And each
Speaker 3: one of the lists has a list of names. And
Speaker 3: so when somebody comes up and says, my name is
Speaker 3: whoever Paul Stanley. Now I'm just making that up. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying Paul Stanley did this right, but I'm Paul Stanley.
Speaker 3: So then the different people have to look on their
Speaker 3: clipboards to see if they have Paul Stanley, and if
Speaker 3: they don't, if nobody has it, he's sent away and
Speaker 3: he's told your name's not on the list. You have
Speaker 3: to come through this, through this process, and then you
Speaker 3: get approved and put on the list, and then you
Speaker 3: come back and you know you can try again, but
Speaker 3: just showing up and us not knowing you, we can't
Speaker 3: do that, right. So somebody else shows up, They're totally fine,
Speaker 3: and then you know there could be ten thousand people
Speaker 3: in this where else and some people even set up
Speaker 3: their band equipment and they're ready to perform. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear your band. I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear anything. Really. I go in and I ask
Speaker 3: who wants to be famous? And everybody's raising their hand. Now,
Speaker 3: some people don't raise their hand, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you don't want to be famous? He goes, well yeah,
Speaker 3: but I didn't want to jump at and said, you know,
Speaker 3: I look like I'm desperate. Then I was like, everybody
Speaker 3: here is desperate. I'm the guy that can make your
Speaker 3: rock star. You need to raise your hand if you
Speaker 3: want to be famous, you know. So then they raise
Speaker 3: their hands, you know. Then I come up to them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you willing to do to be famous?
Speaker 3: And almost everybody has a line in the sand they draw.
Speaker 3: They said, I'll do anything to be famous, but nothing
Speaker 3: with animals and nothing with children. Well try it another
Speaker 3: time and I would turn around and walk away, you know.
Speaker 3: And their names are now taking off the list and
Speaker 3: they have to come back in ninety days. And everybody
Speaker 3: I'm coming up to this is what I'm doing. Who
Speaker 3: wants to be famous? What are you willing to do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Nothing with animals? Take them off the list, there's either
Speaker 3: see you in ninety days. And I keep doing that,
Speaker 3: but eventually I come up to somebody that says I'll
Speaker 3: do anything. I got to tell you up front that
Speaker 3: I cannot sing or dance. I can't write a song,
Speaker 3: I can't write music. I can't even write a poem.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't have really any talents of any kind. And
Speaker 3: I knew that there was a Doctor Seuss book in
Speaker 3: this where else somewhere, So I sent one of my
Speaker 3: guys off to find the Doctor Seu's book and he
Speaker 3: runs off and he gets it pretty quick. And I
Speaker 3: give the Doctor Seuss book to this guy, and I said,
Speaker 3: now keep in mind he's slightly overweight and no talent.
Speaker 3: I was like, read me this Doctor Seu's book. So
Speaker 3: he started reading it, and just before it rhymed, he
Speaker 3: closed the book and said, I don't get it. And
Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm like, you can't even make a
Speaker 3: Doctor Seus's book rhyme. And you want to be famous.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, what are you willing to
Speaker 3: do to be famous? Anything? What's anything? He goes anything.
Speaker 3: I would do anything. I said, You've got to give
Speaker 3: me an example of what anything means, because in my mind,
Speaker 3: I know that Satan doesn't want the guy that draws
Speaker 3: a line in the sand and says I won't cross that.
Speaker 3: Satan wants the person that's willing to jump in the
Speaker 3: mud and be drugged through it. And if you're willing
Speaker 3: to do that, I can make your rock star. And
Speaker 3: he said, if you put me in a room with
Speaker 3: a naked three year old and a horse, I'm having
Speaker 3: sex with at least one of them. And if I
Speaker 3: think is what you want, I'll have sex with both. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're my boy. So I give them a card. On
Speaker 3: one side is the New York Skyline. On the other
Speaker 3: side is a phone number. You call that number and
Speaker 3: they're going to have you go somewhere and then you
Speaker 3: just do whatever it is they tell you to do. Now,
Speaker 3: remember that they are going to be taking your picture
Speaker 3: while you do this. You're not going to see anybody,
Speaker 3: but there's cameras there and they're filming everything you're doing,
Speaker 3: and they're taking still photos of it. And if you
Speaker 3: ever decide then you'd like to reveal to the world
Speaker 3: what people have to do to become famous, they'll reveal
Speaker 3: to the world which you have to do to become famous,
Speaker 3: and it's not going to be worth it, and you're
Speaker 3: going to be thought of as disgusting. No one will
Speaker 3: like you after that.
Speaker 2: So just out of curiosity, I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: how that exactly works. So let's say this character ends
Speaker 2: up saying, well, he doesn't have any talents, but he's
Speaker 2: willing to do everything. Is he then imbued talent from
Speaker 2: Satan somehow magically, or is he just put in a
Speaker 2: position to where he can be taught all these things
Speaker 2: eventually so that he can become this famous person or both.
Speaker 3: He said he had zero talents, and I told him,
Speaker 3: if you take this card and call this number and
Speaker 3: do whatever it is they tell you to do, I'll
Speaker 3: see you on MTV in six months. I saw him
Speaker 3: on MTV in about ninety days, and he was singing
Speaker 3: and dancing in one of the popular boy bands of
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like Meeting the Devil at the Crossroads,
Speaker 2: that whole story. You know, the guy goes to meet
Speaker 2: the Devil at the Crossroads. Couldn't play guitar, couldn't sing,
Speaker 2: couldn't do any of that shit. The next day he's oh,
Speaker 2: there's that story.
Speaker 5: Well I mean that also, But it doesn't take much
Speaker 5: talent to be in a boy band, right, No, dancing's hard,
Speaker 5: it's it's choreography. If you do it enough, they make
Speaker 5: They train monkeys in the circus to do choreography, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like they trained bear ride unicycles, yea.
Speaker 3: Their own instruments, right, just a dance routine.
Speaker 4: It's a dance routine.
Speaker 5: You throw some auto tune on it, you know, and
Speaker 5: it's all about just advancing.
Speaker 4: Their modeling careers. Honestly, that's about it's I mean, I
Speaker 4: could see it.
Speaker 5: I feel like, okay, like you said, crossroad situation where
Speaker 5: homeboyke became a class musical talent at a certain instrument
Speaker 5: like yo, that's next level.
Speaker 4: But boy bands, I.
Speaker 5: Feel like it would be a lot easier to mold
Speaker 5: into form. Look at one direction, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, in all oh, just going back to that though
Speaker 2: that I couldn't think of the the guy's name for
Speaker 2: some reason, Robert Johnson. He's the supposedly the famous guy
Speaker 2: who allegedly met the Devil at the Crossroads. But it
Speaker 2: says right here that Robert Johnson stands at the crossroads
Speaker 2: of American music, much as it is rumored that he
Speaker 2: once stood at a Mississippi crossroad and sold his soul
Speaker 2: to the devil in exchange for his unique musical gifts.
Speaker 2: And he had like he had friends who could testify
Speaker 2: that he had no talent, like, you know, they heard
Speaker 2: him playing on the guitar. He would try, you know,
Speaker 2: but and then it was like the next day, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's he's this guy, you know, so
Speaker 2: there's something.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you boy Tommy on Oh brother, we're art Thal.
Speaker 5: He was based off of that dude.
Speaker 3: Right Crossroads with Ralph Machio.
Speaker 4: Heard of it.
Speaker 3: It's decent. And the guitarist that he has to go
Speaker 3: up against in hell is Steve Vai.
Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, is it an eighties movie?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's like that insane showdown at the end,
Speaker 5: and oh shit, yeah the kid, the karate kid.
Speaker 3: Right, the karate kid.
Speaker 5: Yes, I've seen the showdown. I haven't seen the whole movie.
Speaker 5: I saw that final showdown and it's sick.
Speaker 4: It's sick.
Speaker 3: But he plays how he wins is that he plays
Speaker 3: classical guitar, because that's where he was going. Was a
Speaker 3: classical guitar school, yeah, and they were getting onto him
Speaker 3: because he was trying to play the blues, you know.
Speaker 3: And then when he's fighting Satan's Minion and that guy's
Speaker 3: wailing away and beating him bad, he then starts playing
Speaker 3: the classical guitar. Yeah, and Satan's Minion can't do it,
Speaker 3: doesn't know that. He only knows heavy.
Speaker 2: Metal sounds about right. The one of my favorite movies
Speaker 2: that I that it kind of reminds me of this
Speaker 2: is if you've ever seen Tenacious D in The Pick
Speaker 2: of Destiny with Jack Black, you know, he has to
Speaker 2: have that that duel with Satan or Beelzebub, whoever it
Speaker 2: is at the end, and they don't remember the name
Speaker 2: of the song, they don't remember how it went, but
Speaker 2: they wrote a tribute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a tribute.
Speaker 5: And that whole movie was based about the Pick of
Speaker 5: Destiny actually being the completing piece.
Speaker 4: For the Demon and it was a whole thing.
Speaker 5: And and Jack Black even said later on, like before
Speaker 5: he had a child, he said, if I ever have
Speaker 5: a kid, I'm never letting him watch Tenacious D in
Speaker 5: their life. Like that's that's real, that's real shit, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean you see people mature with the age.
Speaker 4: And now Jack Black's looking at that like, you know, ah,
Speaker 4: not my finest hour, you know.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I would say possibly the
Speaker 5: musical voice of a generation. You know, Tenacious D's album
Speaker 5: went hard.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, I dude, I can That's like my
Speaker 2: go to every time I go to karaoke, Like, it's
Speaker 2: fucker gently, that's that's my song.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I forgot about that one. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: album had some bangers on it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, But all right, So, so the the devil
Speaker 2: gives powers to these people if they're willing to do everything.
Speaker 2: And now my curious, my curiosity leads me here, and
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, so this this person or these
Speaker 2: people in general, let's say that they do go into
Speaker 2: that room, and unfortunately they they do these heinous acts
Speaker 2: with children and animals and stuff like that. Why, in
Speaker 2: your opinion, why is it does the devil want people
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 3: Because man was made in God's image and if he
Speaker 3: can get us to do something so vile that makes
Speaker 3: him happy. If something's going to make him happy, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's basically slapping God in the face. Look what I
Speaker 3: made these people do. Look what these people were willing
Speaker 3: to do because you won't make them famous, So I did,
Speaker 3: you know, And they're willing to sleep with small children
Speaker 3: to do with you know, to get what you won't
Speaker 3: give them.
Speaker 5: Plus it proves their loyalty, and they get told to
Speaker 5: sing about certain topics like the big the big meeting
Speaker 5: that took place in the early nineties that told all
Speaker 5: the rap artists to push drugs, domestic violence, and gangbanging
Speaker 5: lifestyle harder and harder and harder. And that's a conversation
Speaker 5: that a lot of people will say never happened, but
Speaker 5: all the old like the triple Ogs of the rap game,
Speaker 5: will absolutely declare that that conversation happened and that they
Speaker 5: were and the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing like fuck the police and blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: That was that was all on script. That was all
Speaker 5: supposed to happen like that. It was supposed to lead
Speaker 5: to riots, it was supposed to lead to division. So
Speaker 5: whenever this new up and coming artist right now, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just have sex with this kid and this and this,
Speaker 5: that's a big deal. But in a couple of years
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you tell them, hey, the
Speaker 5: band's going through a phase change. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 5: ditch the boy band look, and we're gonna go super dark.
Speaker 5: We're gonna go super sexual, and we're gonna start singing
Speaker 5: about these things. And all these kids that have been
Speaker 5: in a fanny all for forever are gonna get sexualized,
Speaker 5: and y'all are just gonna do it.
Speaker 4: They're not gonna question it. Boss Man said, we're doing
Speaker 4: this now. That's just what's up. And it's all leading
Speaker 4: into the agenda, right, the plan of Satan.
Speaker 3: Around two thousand and six. I have been out of Satanism.
Speaker 3: I got out in nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand
Speaker 3: and six, I was a manager. I was the GM
Speaker 3: at Sunglass Side, and we used to because we were
Speaker 3: a high fashion store. Mine was we would put out
Speaker 3: in style magazines all over the store and people would
Speaker 3: come in and they would see, you know, Prada on
Speaker 3: a on a superstar, and so they'd want to buy product.
Speaker 3: You know, are they see dult chain cabana on somebody
Speaker 3: Now they want to buy adult chain cabana And so,
Speaker 3: I mean it was, you know, a psychological thing on
Speaker 3: our part putting these magazines out. But there was an
Speaker 3: issue of in Style that showed all the ads that
Speaker 3: were in in Style. It's all underwear ads, cologne, perfume,
Speaker 3: and clothes, and it's in Style. I mean, so you
Speaker 3: know it's like in Style. Yeah, this particular issue, all
Speaker 3: those ads were done by children instead of adult models.
Speaker 3: They had children's models.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: I didn't think anything of it. I just opened up
Speaker 3: the magazine, found a picture of a cute girl, put
Speaker 3: it down, but and she looked like she was like
Speaker 3: fifteen years old. Sixteen years old, you know, but I
Speaker 3: know you know your sex cells, so you know they've
Speaker 3: got this this ad. But one day I was bored
Speaker 3: and I'd read all the other magazines, all the good
Speaker 3: articles in them, and I went over and I opened
Speaker 3: this one up and I started looking. And after I
Speaker 3: had looked through about half the magazine, I took it
Speaker 3: out of the public view and put it in the back.
Speaker 3: And one of my employees came in. He goes, did
Speaker 3: we did somebody steal the In Style? I said, no,
Speaker 3: it's in the background. Here's why, And I said, look
Speaker 3: through it and tell me what you think. So he's
Speaker 3: looking through it and he goes, this issue for pedophiles,
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking. I don't want to come
Speaker 3: in and look at that one. Wow.
Speaker 2: You know, people can be influenced pretty damn easy, you know,
Speaker 2: as something could be so morally wrong, but if your
Speaker 2: favorite actor is doing it, or if your favorite actor
Speaker 2: or your you know, your favorite musician, whatever, then it
Speaker 2: starts to become a little bit more okay. And and
Speaker 2: because these are the people that you're looking up to,
Speaker 2: these are your idols.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: And that's why you're not supposed to have false, false idols,
Speaker 2: right yep.
Speaker 3: But this is why they have Cindy Crawford Crawford advertising
Speaker 3: Coca Cola. Yeah, they don't have some fat, dumpy chick
Speaker 3: that's ugly, you know, are you gonna drink it? If
Speaker 3: you see some fat girl drinking coke, it's like, well,
Speaker 3: it's probably why she's fat, just drinking coke.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 3: Then you see Cindy Crawford doing It's like, oh, I
Speaker 3: wonder how much I would have to drink before I
Speaker 3: look like Cindy Crawford. Like, well, you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: drink a lot more to look like Cindy Crawford than
Speaker 3: this fat girl over here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, let's let's call it a spade of spade here.
Speaker 5: The beer advertising campaigns of the mid eighties to early
Speaker 5: nineties were some of the most unhinged, unrealistic male fantasy
Speaker 5: shit ever. Basically, they said, if you drink a case
Speaker 5: of Budweiser every day, that models will just throw themselves
Speaker 5: at you because it's got more fill in in, less
Speaker 5: taste or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, what.
Speaker 2: Well they said it without saying it, you know it was.
Speaker 2: It was a subconscious message.
Speaker 3: But you have to admit that in the eighties and
Speaker 3: the nineties there was some good ads like the frogs, Yes,
Speaker 3: and the lizards.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Absolutely this was.
Speaker 3: This was like a like a movie you wanted to
Speaker 3: go watch but you couldn't. It's just a two hours
Speaker 3: for two minute ad.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing with Geico. So easy a
Speaker 2: caveman can do it, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, you know you've got the frogs, the Budweiser frogs,
Speaker 3: bud Wise.
Speaker 4: Or yep, they're not campmel.
Speaker 5: Camel cigarettes are like being marketed for children for a
Speaker 5: good while there in the cartoon Camel up there with
Speaker 5: like flavored cigarettes and it's like.
Speaker 4: Bro, hold up, Paula's Paula's that was, But you're right.
Speaker 5: The ad campaigns were off the charts because they pretty
Speaker 5: much were just left to go. Wasn't really much regulation
Speaker 5: telling what could or couldn't go on air.
Speaker 3: Like that, right, So much stuff was like cutting edge,
Speaker 3: and none of us saw it coming.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like we weren't expecting. You know. I do a
Speaker 3: talk at some of my conferences. If somebody books that
Speaker 3: it's called satan and pop culture, and I quote from bands,
Speaker 3: and then I asked people to tell me who said this,
Speaker 3: and people are so unsuspecting. This is what I opened
Speaker 3: it up with. We literally wrote magic spells into our songs,
Speaker 3: into our lyrics, and into our music, so that when
Speaker 3: you heard our songs on the radio, you had to
Speaker 3: go to the local record store and buy our merchandise,
Speaker 3: or if you saw us in concert, you would have
Speaker 3: to buy our merchandise at the show, or you'd have
Speaker 3: to go home and buy our merchandise because we literally
Speaker 3: wrote spells into our music and our songs. Everybody likes
Speaker 3: to guess ACDC, led Zeppelin, Slayer.
Speaker 4: I would think Pink Floyd.
Speaker 5: The only reason I say that is because Dark Side
Speaker 5: of the Moon was the number one best selling album
Speaker 5: still to date and it's like, okay that if this
Speaker 5: is what we're talking about, that's that's a move.
Speaker 2: And also, did you know that that whole album weirdly
Speaker 2: lines up with the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 5: I've heard people dispute that, but I've also seen it
Speaker 5: line up for myself. So I mean, you know, I
Speaker 5: guess maybe these people didn't start it at the exact
Speaker 5: right second.
Speaker 2: No, you can go on YouTube. They have it synced
Speaker 2: up like you can watch it. It is perfect, Like
Speaker 2: that's I mean, I don't believe in coincidences. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they did it on purpose, but I would
Speaker 2: just say there's some kind of magical shit that's going
Speaker 2: on there, right.
Speaker 4: Which was the band that you were talking about though.
Speaker 3: But Pink Floyd did the song for first, did the
Speaker 3: album first, So.
Speaker 5: Nobody really knows how and why they're supposed to line
Speaker 5: up Dark Side of the Moon album with the Wizard
Speaker 5: of Oz.
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 5: But hold on, So which band are you talking about
Speaker 5: that it put the spells in the songs?
Speaker 3: Beach Boys? Oh no, Beach Boys, clean cut, innocent looking.
Speaker 3: You know, no one would think that they're all American bands.
Speaker 5: Oh as America, as American can get man when you
Speaker 5: think when summertime in America, the Beach Boys somewhere off
Speaker 5: in the distance low.
Speaker 3: Right, when you're talking about the Beach Boys and apple
Speaker 3: Pie and our American flag, you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: there was another band that decided that they were going
Speaker 3: to put out all their songs was going to be
Speaker 3: the philosophy of Aleister Crowling, who was a Satanist and
Speaker 3: who was the OTO's most famous member. And he decided
Speaker 3: that magic would be spelled with a K if it
Speaker 3: was Satanic magic. So it's m a g ic K
Speaker 3: to differentiate between that and sleight of hand magic, which
Speaker 3: is M A G I see. And so all the
Speaker 3: songs they put out supposedly get the youth in tune
Speaker 3: with Aleister Crowley's philosophy.
Speaker 4: Which band is this?
Speaker 3: We'll take a guess.
Speaker 5: Okay, give me at least a little bit of a
Speaker 5: what's the genre?
Speaker 3: Aleister Crowley was called the wickedest man in the world
Speaker 3: and six six the Beast? So what band would do that? So, Maris,
Speaker 3: would the band have to be? You want to influence
Speaker 3: the world's youth to embrace a satanic guy known as
Speaker 3: the Beast.
Speaker 2: See, that's where my mines.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing I'm thinking, like death metal comes
Speaker 5: up right immediately, right off the rip. But then I'm
Speaker 5: also thinking like Sammy Davis Junior was a famous Satanist,
Speaker 5: Like he was very loud and open about his satanic news.
Speaker 4: So like, right, so.
Speaker 5: Okay, pause, give me at least a genre of music,
Speaker 5: and then I'll make my guess, give me at least
Speaker 5: a direction.
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixties, Oh.
Speaker 4: All right, the Doors.
Speaker 3: I think it was a good guess.
Speaker 4: Elba wasn't the right one though.
Speaker 3: Then when Elvis would have been fifties.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Elvis is pretty much locked away in Vegas
Speaker 5: by that point.
Speaker 3: So okay. The Beatles.
Speaker 5: The Beatles, damn, I didn't think about them. Although yeah,
Speaker 5: that would also very much make sense. Which album was
Speaker 5: it based off of.
Speaker 3: Crowley Sergeant Pepper's?
Speaker 4: Of course it is.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's on the album cover.
Speaker 4: Yes he is.
Speaker 3: There's also a member of the Beatles that was an atheist. Now,
Speaker 3: this is what makes this statement so hard to wrap
Speaker 3: my brain around. He's an atheist. He says he's an atheist.
Speaker 3: What he agreed to sell his soul to Satan.
Speaker 2: Has to be John Lennon, right, And they.
Speaker 3: Did he sold his soul to the devil and almost
Speaker 3: twenty years to the day he was shot.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's gotta be galous.
Speaker 5: I was thinking of Ringo Starr because he's talking about
Speaker 5: like a no talent person who like just sold it
Speaker 5: all to like ride the coattails. I'm thinking, yeah, Ringo
Speaker 5: would definitely be the beatle who sold his soul to
Speaker 5: for all the fame and fortune that the rest of
Speaker 5: the guys of talent could make for him.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean John Lennon. He's saying imagine, which
Speaker 2: is you know a lot of people would look at
Speaker 2: that like an atheist kind of song.
Speaker 3: But his song to me is communism agreed.
Speaker 5: Just no country, no religion, none of this just it
Speaker 5: sounds very very Marxist to me personally, which I believe
Speaker 5: is also based in Satanism.
Speaker 4: But that's a talk for another day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what's interesting though, you had mentioned
Speaker 2: the the joy of Satan and so then I typed
Speaker 2: in because I was looking for like Beach Boys magical
Speaker 2: lyrics and check this out, dude. So one of one
Speaker 2: of their lyrics is it says, if the song I
Speaker 2: sing to you could fill your heart with joy, I'd
Speaker 2: sing it forever.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's a shout out. I
Speaker 2: mean I know that they were, they probably predated it,
Speaker 2: but you know, just a weird coincidence.
Speaker 5: I wonder playing their music backwards what it sounds like.
Speaker 5: I feel like that this would be an early version
Speaker 5: of that. Somebody's got to have some vinyl we could
Speaker 5: just slowly roll backwards or something, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I did the you know, I was part of
Speaker 3: the the Baptist Church back in the seventies and into
Speaker 3: the eighties and then I stopped. But there was those
Speaker 3: people that would travel around with their back masking program
Speaker 3: and they would show you what the bands had back
Speaker 3: mask on their music. And so we played this guy
Speaker 3: played this song backwards and it was Stairway to Heaven.
Speaker 3: And on the tape you could hear what the messages
Speaker 3: were like, I was a child, born, born naked. Now
Speaker 3: I am Satan or here's to my sweet Satan. And
Speaker 3: it was like seven messages on it. And I had
Speaker 3: led Zeppelin. I had led Zeppelin four and I thought, well,
Speaker 3: let's see. So I put it on and turned the
Speaker 3: record player off, but used a pencil eraser to move
Speaker 3: it around. Yeah, and at the right speed with that
Speaker 3: and doing it backwards, those messages are really there. But
Speaker 3: I've heard I've heard other people say they're not really there.
Speaker 3: It's just the power of suggestion that after you hear it,
Speaker 3: you can't unhear it. I was like, well, I mean,
Speaker 3: there'd be some truth to that, but sure, how is
Speaker 3: it that everybody hears the same thing if it's not
Speaker 3: really there?
Speaker 2: Right? And if you're dealing in this kind of work,
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about it, like like a band,
Speaker 2: they typically would produce sorry, they typically would produce like
Speaker 2: a new album every year or two, So you really
Speaker 2: have a good amount of time to really like finangle
Speaker 2: the words. Maybe you have like a board day and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I wonder what this word sounds like
Speaker 2: played backwards, you know what I mean? And so I imagine
Speaker 2: that could be crafted. And if one person did it,
Speaker 2: then I feel like, you know, it would become pretty
Speaker 2: well known. And especially during that time, I mean, there
Speaker 2: was the whole Satanic panic shit that was going on,
Speaker 2: and and so of course, you know, some people might
Speaker 2: have wanted to do it just to be edgy, or
Speaker 2: to fit in or to seem like an extra artist
Speaker 2: because look, I'm technically writing two songs here or something
Speaker 2: like that. You know.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I heard an interview with Jimmy Page and
Speaker 3: Robert Plant where Jimmy Page's his hand just flew across
Speaker 3: the page and he wrote the music and the lyrics
Speaker 3: in ten minutes. The song takes eight minutes to play. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how is it possible that you were both in ten minutes?
Speaker 3: And he didn't even know what he was writing. When
Speaker 3: he was done, he saw what he had written. And
Speaker 3: the first place they ever played it at was like
Speaker 3: one of the auditoriums in London and one of the
Speaker 3: places where people have memberships. So whenever a band shows up,
Speaker 3: whoever they are, people just go. Even if you're not
Speaker 3: a fan of the band. You know you have You've
Speaker 3: paid for all these seats. You know, you might as
Speaker 3: well go and take advantage of it. So he said,
Speaker 3: they played it for the first time in front of
Speaker 3: an audience there, like a royal albat hal or something
Speaker 3: like that, and when they were done, they said, it
Speaker 3: was like we got a golf clap. No barely heard anything.
Speaker 3: And he said, and I leaned over to Jimmy and
Speaker 3: I said, I told you it was crap, and it
Speaker 3: says we had no idea at that time that it
Speaker 3: was become it would become the number one song of forever.
Speaker 2: Wow makes sense, you know if you listen to like, uh,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of artists and movie writers and everything
Speaker 2: that they'll are book writers as well. But it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's this thing they call automatic writing, and
Speaker 2: where people would just get into like this hypnotic state
Speaker 2: and you know, they're not even thinking, they're not thinking
Speaker 2: about what they're writing. They're not looking at what they're writing.
Speaker 2: It's just coming through them. And you can call that channeled,
Speaker 2: you can call it whatever, but there's something to it, dude,
Speaker 2: for sure. And I would say that if you said
Speaker 2: some kind of maybe specific satanic prayer, you might get
Speaker 2: a certain flavor to whatever lyrics or you know, show
Speaker 2: notes that you're that you're writing down, you know.
Speaker 5: But it's also like you said that some people hear
Speaker 5: the thing backwards and some people say it's just so
Speaker 5: it's the power suggestion.
Speaker 4: And once you hear it, you can't unhear it.
Speaker 5: But like you said, there's far too many people that
Speaker 5: can hear it the first go round than those that
Speaker 5: can't write it doesn't it can't dismiss it, you can't
Speaker 5: disprove it. And for that purpose, Jonathan, you've even said
Speaker 5: you're a hypnot therapist. Not everybody can be hypnotized, right,
Speaker 5: So it's like those backwards transmissions. They're not meant for everybody,
Speaker 5: but to a certain type of people it will reach them. No,
Speaker 5: the other thing, they couldn't hear it on that one,
Speaker 5: absolutely might hear it on the next one.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 2: No, everybody can be hypnotized. It's just that some people
Speaker 2: are harder than others. Some people are very what they
Speaker 2: call left brained or logical minded, and to where they're
Speaker 2: only looking at things from one point of view, and
Speaker 2: that's the real way, that's the only way. And those
Speaker 2: are the people that are a little bit harder to
Speaker 2: be hypnotized. Everybody can. Everybody has watched TV for more
Speaker 2: than a minute. Everybody's listened to a song for more
Speaker 2: than a minute. You know, it's it's just that some
Speaker 2: people are a little bit more difficult and trying to hypnotize.
Speaker 2: But you know, I've had those cases, and to be honest,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what this says, but it's
Speaker 2: usually men who are harder to hypnotize than women. Women
Speaker 2: are you know, a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say illogical, but but I guess
Speaker 2: just more, you know, the men are. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's weird to think about. And I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to put anybody in a box.
Speaker 3: Here, but you're going to receive letters over this, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Women, we love you over here. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes your chemicals are a little weird.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's pretty much an understood fact that
Speaker 5: women are more open when it comes to the realm
Speaker 5: of not just magic and sorcery, but like realistically they're
Speaker 5: more open and more empathetic, and more available as far
Speaker 5: as that's concerned, more walls, and are more stalwart.
Speaker 2: They are more spiritual beings in my opinion, So that
Speaker 2: that's what I mean to say.
Speaker 3: My dad said that he was going to write a book.
Speaker 3: He said this back in the eighties or the nineties.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm going to write a book that'll help
Speaker 3: everybody understand women. As in, what's it going to be called?
Speaker 3: He said, Men are from Mars, women are from some
Speaker 3: other damn place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about right. You know, my dad used to say, women,
Speaker 2: you can't live with him, you can't kill him. It's
Speaker 2: just so ridiculous. God, it was just as a funny
Speaker 2: joke though. But but anyway, look, I do kind of
Speaker 2: want to get over to this Diddy stuff. And I
Speaker 2: do appreciate you kind of giving us this background here
Speaker 2: as far as you know what really happens within these
Speaker 2: certain circles and whatnot. But you know, the the the
Speaker 2: p Diddy stuff, it seems honestly rate up your alley
Speaker 2: at least something that you know is not too far
Speaker 2: away from you know, what you were used to be around.
Speaker 2: And so I kind of just want to I want
Speaker 2: to share this story here and and just really get
Speaker 2: into it now. There's a there's been many lists that
Speaker 2: have been named that you know, we're supposedly going to
Speaker 2: these freak cough parties and whatnot. Some people have said that,
Speaker 2: you know that uh Diddy was basically Epstein but worse,
Speaker 2: and that there was a lot of sex trafficking involved,
Speaker 2: and that is something that was mentioned in the court documents,
Speaker 2: which was never mentioned in the Epstein documents. By the way,
Speaker 2: if you look at the court filing, did he's did
Speaker 2: he's pretty fucked like, yeah, if if he's not protected, now,
Speaker 2: I think that he's probably protected and that this could
Speaker 2: all just be a show personally, That's what I believe.
Speaker 2: But just looking at it here, there are a lot
Speaker 2: of names that are mentioned, but I do want to
Speaker 2: get to the actual story here. So this is actually
Speaker 2: by Newsweek. It was just put out just uh, it
Speaker 2: was updated May May third day? Was it that long
Speaker 2: ago already?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it has been going on for
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, but I guess it's just now more
Speaker 4: things are coming out.
Speaker 2: But it says a number of celebrities appeared in court
Speaker 2: filings made in connection with music producer Rodney Jones a
Speaker 2: thirty million dollar lawsuit against Sean P. Ditty Combs. Jones
Speaker 2: filed a lawsuit on February twenty six, making a number
Speaker 2: of accusations against Combs, including sexual misconduct and grooming. Oh
Speaker 2: so this is probably where it all started.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 2: Jones has also accused Combs of participating in sex trafficking activity.
Speaker 2: Attorneys for Combs have strongly denied the allegations. Of course,
Speaker 2: we have overwhelming, indisputable proof that his claims are complete lies.
Speaker 2: Interesting statement there on behalf of P Diddy, But it
Speaker 2: says Jones is filing to the Federal District Court in
Speaker 2: New York list in detail his allegations, with one section
Speaker 2: claiming that Combs's music industion tree associates, who are also
Speaker 2: named in the lawsuit, financially benefited from facilitating his alleged
Speaker 2: unlawful behavior. Gaining access to his powerful connections seems a
Speaker 2: little wizardy, and so it says. Newsweek reached out to
Speaker 2: Comb's representatives and jones attorney via email and online forum
Speaker 2: for comment. But there are some These are the names
Speaker 2: that are actually listed in the in the lawsuit here,
Speaker 2: So it's it's not gonna be everybody yet, but these
Speaker 2: are just the names that his boy brought forth in
Speaker 2: the lawsuit in May. In May, right, and it says, uh,
Speaker 2: there's Stevie j. He's a music producer in TV personality,
Speaker 2: And it says that, according to court documents, Jones alleges
Speaker 2: that Comb's P Diddy used access to steveej and his
Speaker 2: knowledge of Jones's admiration of STEVIEJ to quote unquote groom
Speaker 2: and entice mister Jones to engage in homosexual acts so
Speaker 2: that's there. Then it says a redacted name, a redacted
Speaker 2: name of a Philadelphia rapper who dated Nicki Minaj, which
Speaker 2: is clearly Meek Mill Mill. Then there was a Grammy
Speaker 2: Award winning R and B singer who had trouble with
Speaker 2: law enforcement after assaulting a Bajon billionaire whose name was
Speaker 2: also redacted, which I didn't look in to see who
Speaker 2: that was, Jacob if you want to check that one out.
Speaker 4: Wait, he struck an azerby Johnny.
Speaker 2: What no, no, no no. It says a Grammy Award winning
Speaker 2: R and B singer who had trouble with law enforcement
Speaker 2: after assaulting a Bajon billionaire b A J A N billionaire. Okay,
Speaker 2: so there's that one, and then there's the next one.
Speaker 2: It says Young Miami. Never heard of him or her,
Speaker 2: I don't know, says who was not labeled as a
Speaker 2: celebrity in the filing, but a relative of Young Miami
Speaker 2: is named. According to court documents, the cousin of Young
Speaker 2: Miami is accused of quote unquote groping mister Jones. Here's
Speaker 2: an interesting one. Prince Harry, according to court documents, alleges
Speaker 2: that Combs's associates gained access to end quotes international dignitaries
Speaker 2: like British Royal Prince Harry so friends in high places
Speaker 2: there for sure. Then you might.
Speaker 5: Be talking about Chris Brown by the way, Oh that
Speaker 5: makes sense, yep, yep, okay, yeah, I'm looking at a
Speaker 5: thing on x that was posted. It's it's pretty well
Speaker 5: known that he was talking about Wow, yeah, Meek Mill
Speaker 5: for the Philadelphia Rapper and uh yeah, your boy Chris Brown.
Speaker 5: Apparently he assaulted by John Billionaire. I didn't know that,
Speaker 5: but all right, that's a weird way to flex it.
Speaker 4: But all right.
Speaker 2: Then there is Cassie if you know that name, if
Speaker 2: you're yeah, there's uh, her name is Cassie Ventura, but
Speaker 2: she goes by Cassie as a singer and a dancer,
Speaker 2: whose previous lawsuit against Combs related to allegations of sexual
Speaker 2: abuse was mentioned in the court documents. Then your boy
Speaker 2: Jacob Bishop td Jakes. It says that he's not accused
Speaker 2: of anything in the lawsuit. According to the court documents,
Speaker 2: Jones alleges that Comb's quote unquote planned to leverage his
Speaker 2: relationship with Bishop td Jakes to soften the impact of
Speaker 2: his public image of Cassie Venture's lawsuit.
Speaker 5: Isn't in on this, but Diddy was gonna throw enough
Speaker 5: money to where TD Jakes was gonna go.
Speaker 4: Speak on his behalf and make him look like a
Speaker 4: wholesome figure.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, then I'll just kind of run
Speaker 2: through a couple of these names. Now, there's the Georgia
Speaker 2: mass Choir was named in the filing, Donald Lawrence, who
Speaker 2: is a songwriter and music producer. The Clark Sisters, which
Speaker 2: I've never heard of, the Clark Sisters. There is Smoky North,
Speaker 2: I never heard of. Most of these people, will be
Speaker 2: real with you. There's Fahim Mohammed, Yeah, I heard about him.
Speaker 2: There is DeForest Taylor and oh which, by the way,
Speaker 2: it says Taylor was named as Comb's allegedly asked Jones
Speaker 2: and Taylor for one hundred dollars bill because he wanted
Speaker 2: to do cocaine with them. Okay, all right. And then
Speaker 2: there's another person named Jose Cruz was named as the
Speaker 2: court document alleges that he is the gatekeeper to all
Speaker 2: of mister Combs's recordings. Okay, that's interesting. Now, supposedly, and
Speaker 2: I believe it's this guy, but the rumor mill says
Speaker 2: that he did he had a bodyguard that any time
Speaker 2: that they would do any of these freak offs, that
Speaker 2: the bodyguard would be there filming all of it and
Speaker 2: maybe to use his blackmail, maybe to sell or something
Speaker 2: along those lines. May probably both to be real with you,
Speaker 2: but dark webshit right, right, and so this is just
Speaker 2: the stuff that was, you know, in the actual lawsuit. Now,
Speaker 2: I want to get to some of the names that
Speaker 2: supposedly there is what's called Diddy's white.
Speaker 4: List, yeah, for his all white parties.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, And it says a growing list of celebrities,
Speaker 2: including Beyonce, j Lo, Justin, Bieber Usher, and others, is
Speaker 2: being linked to p Ditty's infamous parties. While a few
Speaker 2: celebs have outright denied the music moguls quote unquote freak
Speaker 2: off parties, the Internet speculates that Hollywood A listers were
Speaker 2: probably connected to his white parties. Following the music moguls
Speaker 2: recent arrest in New York City on charges of sex
Speaker 2: trafficking and racketeering, discussions about the star studded guest list
Speaker 2: from these notorious gatherings has intensified. Similar to Epstein's list,
Speaker 2: social media is now trending a list of high profile figures,
Speaker 2: referring to it as the Diddy List.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it says, you know, your boy was partying
Speaker 5: hard after the all white party, the after white party,
Speaker 5: if you will. You know these celebrities, some of them
Speaker 5: came along and party with their boy and then realized
Speaker 5: that the doors were locked, and it's like, uh, oh, it's.
Speaker 2: The after after party, so to say, But it says,
Speaker 2: according to reports, did he frequently hosted some of Hollywood's
Speaker 2: biggest stars at his lavish gatherings, including his ex girlfriend
Speaker 2: and pop star Jennifer Lopez, who was also involved in
Speaker 2: one of his shooting incidents, as well as Titanic star
Speaker 2: Leo DiCaprio. The dude that that one doesn't even surprise me.
Speaker 2: Like every single one of his girlfriends is always seventeen.
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, I know they age out when
Speaker 4: they turn twenty six. He gets rid of them. I
Speaker 4: know that much.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard a young speculation, but I've heard at
Speaker 5: least that much.
Speaker 4: So, uh, it's not a good look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it? Tom Cruise? Right, Like he gets
Speaker 2: in all these relationships as soon as they turn thirty
Speaker 2: two or thirty three. It's one of those that they
Speaker 2: always they divorce or they break up or they stop
Speaker 2: seeing each other. It's always that age, and it's happened
Speaker 2: like four or five different women there.
Speaker 5: There's significance to this, there's their symbolism to all of
Speaker 5: it in my opinion.
Speaker 2: But anyway, but uh, it says. The alleged list of
Speaker 2: attendees at Diddy's infamous White parties features a who's who
Speaker 2: of Hollywood, including a listers like Leo DiCaprio, Jay Z, Beyonce,
Speaker 2: Ashton Kutcher, Paris Hilton, Howard Stern, Kim Kardashian, your boy,
Speaker 2: Russell Brand, who I've been saying I don't trust him,
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, who else, j Lo, Russell Simmons, Usher, Meghan
Speaker 2: Fox who may or may not be a dude.
Speaker 3: Jerry still out well, Megan Fox is a witch? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Have you have you ever ever noticed for thumbs black?
Speaker 4: Oh the toe thumbs you mean? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's her weird thing man And yeah, her and
Speaker 5: Machine Gun Kelly were talking about how they were doing
Speaker 5: blood rituals to manifest each other into each other's lives.
Speaker 5: Then our boy MGK was like, yeod, no, I'm done.
Speaker 5: This is next level crazy white bitch we don't need
Speaker 5: that kind of wildness in our lives. And he's still
Speaker 5: like his career is never gonna recover. He's trade up,
Speaker 5: tried to slap box Eminem from way down there and
Speaker 5: he got bodied. But yeah, Megan Fox did a number
Speaker 5: on that boy.
Speaker 2: First of all. I mean she might have been his
Speaker 2: handler or something along those lines, but that dude is
Speaker 2: an absolute pillow princess. You seen this guy. He's dressing
Speaker 2: up in dresses and he has pearl necklaces on, he
Speaker 2: paints his nails. It's like the gayest shit ever. Nothing
Speaker 2: against gayness, but it's like, you know, just just say it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like why you got a
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 5: But before he tried to go after Eminem, that wouldn't him,
Speaker 5: all right, Nobody saw him as that guy before that.
Speaker 5: He goes after your boy, Marshall Mathers, and then he
Speaker 5: gets slapped down so hard that he gets with some
Speaker 5: witchy bitch and becomes a wanna be punk rock star
Speaker 5: and started wearing pearl necklaces and shit, Like I'm just
Speaker 5: that was like a ritual tactic, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: That was him sacrificing if you want to. He sacrificed
Speaker 5: his entire career to look this way.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I don't I don't see the plan.
Speaker 5: Because he came out looking worse for wear. It wasn't
Speaker 5: like he gained anything for it. So I don't know.
Speaker 5: But then again, maybe he wasn't supposed to. Maybe he
Speaker 5: was just the land for slaughter if you will.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Usually when you have to do something, you get a
Speaker 3: reward for it in the end, Like if you have
Speaker 3: to dress as a woman in some movie and you
Speaker 3: do that, then suddenly you become a billionaire, yeah, or
Speaker 3: your movie company takes off, or you know, you get
Speaker 3: a famous wife, a beautiful wife, and that there's some
Speaker 3: kind of payback.
Speaker 5: He did get that role in the movie Dirt, that's
Speaker 5: very He played Tommy Lee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, that's true.
Speaker 5: He did get that role right after he his career tanked,
Speaker 5: and it's like his stock went up, so to speak,
Speaker 5: because everybody loved that movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in these these rituals, I believe must be evolving,
Speaker 2: especially because I don't know if it's on this list,
Speaker 2: but I've seen it on other list that not only
Speaker 2: were all these people here, which we haven't even gotten
Speaker 2: through yet, but also Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union and
Speaker 2: their whole children's situation, which is allowing their kid to
Speaker 2: transition at a very young age. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade has been seen in dresses multiple times as well,
Speaker 2: and then you hear Gabrielle Union. I mean, dude, if
Speaker 2: she is way weirder than I ever thought that she was.
Speaker 5: She wasn't that weird in the nineties like that, that
Speaker 5: didn't used to be her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She evolved into one of the weirdest people alive. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Anybody time, anybody will do that. I mean, look at
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift when she came out yep, innocent and sweet
Speaker 3: and you know, an Elentry girl. I would go to
Speaker 3: talks and I would say, you gotta watch Taylor Swift
Speaker 3: because she's going to go off the rails. She's gonna
Speaker 3: be doing magic Satanism out in the open, you know.
Speaker 3: And these parents were like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: She'll never do that. What's she doing? Now we've heard
Speaker 3: that there's an exorcist named Oh, I can't think of
Speaker 3: his name. He's the exorcist for Nashville, Tennessee. He's no
Speaker 3: parent can take their child to Taylor Swift because she's
Speaker 3: practicing magic at her shows and that demons are attracted
Speaker 3: to that, and if somebody's coming in there not in
Speaker 3: the state of grace, they're gonna end up with attachment
Speaker 3: at the very least, and possibly demonic possession.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's for sure going on. Because you hear
Speaker 2: some people's testimonies about whenever they're leaving those concerts and
Speaker 2: they feel shook like something there's some kind of frequency
Speaker 2: or something that is like playing in the undertones that
Speaker 2: is really messing with certain people's minds and bodies and
Speaker 2: stuff too.
Speaker 3: There was a guy, a rapper, I think that caused
Speaker 3: some members of his audience to get possessed.
Speaker 4: Travis Scott we talked about that his astral concert and.
Speaker 5: Look like, what could be her overarching theme to doing
Speaker 5: this magic and doing all this?
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe she contributed one percent to America's overall GDP last year.
Speaker 4: That's why she's doing these things.
Speaker 5: She's making more money than any other musical artist I
Speaker 5: believe has ever done period ever, period.
Speaker 2: I think she's a suckubist.
Speaker 3: I heard I heard somewhere that she was paid a
Speaker 3: billion dollars to promote what's her name? The oh the
Speaker 3: girl was running for president now for the Democratic Kamala
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, gross.
Speaker 5: I know that she got paid by the NFL to
Speaker 5: date Travis kelce that's for sure. And that also people
Speaker 5: get mad when I say that, but it's like, y'all understand,
Speaker 5: the NFL is listed as entertainment, right, meaning that the
Speaker 5: same type of Hollywood business heads that you think are
Speaker 5: in charge of yeah, they're also in charge of the NFL.
Speaker 5: You think Taylor Swift and Travis kelcey just magically happened,
Speaker 5: no dude to us to up the stocks of not
Speaker 5: only the NFL but his team.
Speaker 2: I think they both got paid on that because if
Speaker 2: you see, if you see all the women that Travis
Speaker 2: kelce was with before, dude, Taylor Swift is literally the
Speaker 2: exact opposite kind of woman that he would go after.
Speaker 4: She's a who wants to snuggle a twig. I don't
Speaker 4: understand it.
Speaker 2: And she's like nine foot tall.
Speaker 4: It's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: I don't even mind the height, but it's like I
Speaker 5: know I'm biased. I'm biased because I like my women thick. Fine,
Speaker 5: I'm not knocking someone else's thing. If you like tiny
Speaker 5: women like blessings be unto you, Okay, fine, But just
Speaker 5: I don't see it, dude, I don't.
Speaker 4: I can't wrap my head around it.
Speaker 2: But also on the other side too, Like you know,
Speaker 2: she was Travis Kelcey is not exactly her type either.
Speaker 2: You know, she was with fucking Loki, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Mean she's dated everybody, dude.
Speaker 5: That's why Ellen DeGeneres has made her cry twice on
Speaker 5: her show.
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm the girl that never has the boyfriend. Bro.
Speaker 5: You could google image taylor ex boyfriend and like fifty
Speaker 5: names of really top level A listers will come up.
Speaker 5: She dated Taylor Laudner, like she dated everybody everybody for
Speaker 5: a while there, but like you.
Speaker 4: Know, she just can never find a guy.
Speaker 5: You'll think maybe there was something wrong with her, and
Speaker 5: that every dude in Hollywood was like, yeah, ah, son,
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna have a saw made about me,
Speaker 5: But it's better than this shit.
Speaker 2: You about to go good, You about to pissed off,
Speaker 2: piss off all the swifties out there.
Speaker 5: That's fine, Taylor Swift just took shots at Trump. She
Speaker 5: just tried to have an industry feud with Trump, like
Speaker 5: she's not smart.
Speaker 4: But whatever.
Speaker 2: The fan base at that point, that's look. But I
Speaker 2: mean Travis Kelsey is also mister Pfizer. Dude, you think
Speaker 2: about it like they are absolutely some kind of industry
Speaker 2: plant shit that's going on here.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: And again it makes sense whenever you we did an
Speaker 5: episode on that the NFL is listed as entertainment, not athletics.
Speaker 5: I know it's a hard pital swallow for people, not
Speaker 5: just you, Jonathan. I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: out there that will disagree and say, no, that's not real.
Speaker 5: Then why does the Department of Defense pay them every
Speaker 5: year to do the national anthem in the way that
Speaker 5: they do, Because they don't do that for any other
Speaker 5: sporting event out there. They pay the NFL because they're
Speaker 5: listed is entertainment and therefore they can pay for the
Speaker 5: fucking ad space.
Speaker 2: When my Steelers win, it's because they did, they earned
Speaker 2: it and they deserved it. But yesterday when they lost, dude,
Speaker 2: it's scripted, like obviously it's fake, like we should have
Speaker 2: won that game. Damn it.
Speaker 5: Clearly they were just following the script, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, it's all. It's all WWE it is. But anyway,
Speaker 2: let's get back to some of these Oh what I
Speaker 2: was saying about Dwayne Wade and oh, I think I
Speaker 2: finished that that Basically I think that, well, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that you know, the the rituals, the what is
Speaker 2: it called the not the demeaning rituals, humiliation, humiliation rituals
Speaker 2: that I think that that that that it it kind
Speaker 2: of can be handed like handed down to your kids.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's what they did to their
Speaker 2: kid in order to keep on rising. Because I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: d Wade hasn't played basketball in like I don't know,
Speaker 2: three or four years or something like that. Gabrielle Union
Speaker 2: hasn't been in the movies, and I don't even I
Speaker 2: don't remember the last movie that I saw her in.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, there's still a listers, you know.
Speaker 5: Like I heard a theory that Magic Johnson did the
Speaker 5: same thing with his oldest son slash daughter these days
Speaker 5: so that he could survive HIV.
Speaker 2: Could be something along with it. But uh, but getting
Speaker 2: back to this list, you have Jennifer Lopez, Russell Simmons, Usher,
Speaker 2: Megan Fox, Kelly Osbourne, Aretha Franklin, Martha Stewart, Tommy Lee,
Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson, Regis Philbin, which I thought was an interesting name.
Speaker 4: I could see it.
Speaker 5: I don't know why, but I could kind of get
Speaker 5: it Regis being part of some sort of satanic grouping
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what are your thoughts on that, Zach
Speaker 2: Regis Filman Philman? Why why would they Why would he
Speaker 2: even be invited in the first place?
Speaker 3: Because he's an a lister.
Speaker 2: I guess that's all you really need.
Speaker 4: He's like old Hollywood, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I guess if you're trying to convince
Speaker 2: somebody to come to these freak off parties in order
Speaker 2: to gain fame in fortune, who better than to have
Speaker 2: the guy from who wants to be a fucking millionaire,
Speaker 2: you know, just at the door.
Speaker 4: Narrating the entire freak golf party.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, did you see the girl? She's doing
Speaker 5: the thing up here with the things, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Like I could to see him narrating the entire thing. Everybody,
Speaker 5: Like REGI just shut the fuck up, dude, Like, what
Speaker 5: do you.
Speaker 2: You get an actor?
Speaker 4: The whole mood.
Speaker 2: You get like an actor in there or something who's like, look,
Speaker 2: I I'll do everything, but I'm not fucking no horse.
Speaker 2: And Regis is like, so you'd like to phone a friend?
Speaker 2: Is that you'd like to use a lion?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: It's like I could see that shit really going on.
Speaker 2: He's just narrating the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, Regis was at the freak Offs.
Speaker 2: And also Vera Wang, which is pretty interesting name. But
Speaker 2: that's the names that have come out so far. There
Speaker 2: is a much larger list obviously, but they're they're more speculative.
Speaker 2: So just wanted to throw that out there. But this
Speaker 2: list might have some credence here. Now let me go back.
Speaker 2: I gotta share this sound here as well.
Speaker 4: But okay, let's see.
Speaker 2: Here, because Diddy is about to name in a video
Speaker 2: that was released just I think about four or five
Speaker 2: months ago. He just randomly had a video of him
Speaker 2: sitting next to a fountain with this kid and and
Speaker 2: he's just naming names for no particular reason. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people saw that as oh, he's drawing his
Speaker 2: line in the sand and saying, if I'm going down,
Speaker 2: all these other people going down with.
Speaker 4: Me, okay?
Speaker 5: Or was he convincing this kid of like, oh, maybe
Speaker 5: you've heard of these people I did.
Speaker 2: That could be, but let's let's see. I just want
Speaker 2: to get y'all's opinion on this. But it's only like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, three minutes long or something like that.
Speaker 2: But he starts naming names and you're like, why, so
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 6: Say lo A Ron will Smith, Will Smith, Alicia Keys Ala, look,
Speaker 6: Black King, God Dude, Justin Beaver, Kevin Hart, markbur.
Speaker 3: Snoop Snoop, d J Cally, DJ.
Speaker 7: Call MP's Steep, Kelly Rowley, Kelly Rowley, Chris Barrow, Quick Brown,
Speaker 7: Cherie Sierra, Janelle Monet. Yeah, that's my sense right there, Lizzo, Nostallion.
Speaker 6: Javelly j Balgar, Ja, Jaoi Campbell, Yomie Camble.
Speaker 4: That's your auntie, don't be, can't your auntie?
Speaker 8: Super Well, let's get back to the list, okay, just
Speaker 8: your album, Rita Wilson.
Speaker 3: Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 2: To By the way, he just said Reda Wilson. Anybody
Speaker 2: doesn't know that name? Remember that name?
Speaker 4: Jacob? Yeah, why do I know that name?
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks his wife?
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, with you now, be waite, Ussha, I can't
Speaker 4: tell me.
Speaker 7: Levottle Shack in his whole family, Tracy Ellis, Ross.
Speaker 3: Woodie Bird.
Speaker 6: Sway, Lee, Rick DAWs, Julian Huff, Dip.
Speaker 8: Low, He Nice.
Speaker 7: Barn, the boy by the Show's shirt, singer.
Speaker 6: The Coach Shirt, the Cole shirt singer Nicole from the
Speaker 6: pussy Cat Dogs saying Nicole from the Pussy Cat Dogs dog,
Speaker 6: that's right.
Speaker 7: Paris Cope, Coral Delvin, when you hollow, Prince Fontana and
Speaker 7: a bunch of big surprising that I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: And they're so big sometimes.
Speaker 7: They get busy and they beget that they committed to
Speaker 7: answer the phone.
Speaker 3: I must say that I'm not in the least bit
Speaker 3: surprised by those people.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I tried getting the video where there's no
Speaker 2: music played in the background. That's how he uploaded it.
Speaker 2: He uploaded it with that music.
Speaker 5: Okay, So he did it ominously on purpose. It's not
Speaker 5: like that was a post. Said it by the person
Speaker 5: putting up the YouTube to make it seem like now
Speaker 5: it's hitting different.
Speaker 4: No. No, he posted it to try to put fear
Speaker 4: on these people.
Speaker 2: After all these allegations were coming out in his court filing.
Speaker 2: That video came out after he was being sued by
Speaker 2: his boy Rodney Zachary.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: I think one of the I've wanted to say this
Speaker 3: for a long time, and I've never said it. I
Speaker 3: don't think in an interview, but I think that well,
Speaker 3: the first time that I heard Oprah Winfrey had a
Speaker 3: school in a foreign country, I thought, uh, she's trafficking. Really,
Speaker 3: But I've never heard that accusation come out, and I'm
Speaker 3: still waiting for it. I mean, the woman's a billionaire, yeah,
Speaker 3: and she has more than one billion. You're like two
Speaker 3: point six billion dollars.
Speaker 4: She was the richest woman at one point, wasn't she?
Speaker 3: I think so? But how do you become a billionaire
Speaker 3: with a book club and a talk show?
Speaker 4: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: It's up to three right now? How much she's worth
Speaker 2: three billion dollars?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Damn? Now?
Speaker 5: I mean, I know she started the Oxygen Channel back
Speaker 5: when like cable was popping off, and she made money
Speaker 5: from that, and like, I'm not taking away from her
Speaker 5: business like wisdom whatsoever.
Speaker 4: But to that point, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5: The only other woman that I could think of that,
Speaker 5: I mean, recently, there's there's multiple billionaire women on Earth,
Speaker 5: but the most successful one was Jeff Bezos's ex wife.
Speaker 5: And that's I mean, that's that's about the pinnacle to
Speaker 5: take half of Amazon.
Speaker 4: With you when you split. I get it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, see, when you heard that she had a
Speaker 5: school in a foreign country, your first thought was that.
Speaker 3: She's Trafficking's trafficking.
Speaker 5: It's that simple, having a school, having an outpost in
Speaker 5: some country no one's ever really cared about before. That's
Speaker 5: a red flag or a dog whistle that there could
Speaker 5: be trafficking going down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I found it right here, it says. Inspired
Speaker 2: by her own disadvantaged childhood, Winfrey states that she founded
Speaker 2: the what is called the Leadership Academy to provide educational
Speaker 2: and leadership opportunities for academically gifted girls. Oh shit, academically
Speaker 2: gifted girls from impoverished backgrounds in South Africa who exhibited
Speaker 2: leadership qualities for making a difference in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds right.
Speaker 4: Who. South Africa is kind of a tumultuous place.
Speaker 5: It has been for a while and it is definitely
Speaker 5: currently so to say, yeah, okay, they're.
Speaker 2: Still doing slavery there right, Well, maybe not South Africa,
Speaker 2: but slavery is still coming out of Africa to this day.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, well, slavery, human slavery is the number
Speaker 3: one commodity in the world. It's the number one crime
Speaker 3: because I don't know, did you guys see the Sound
Speaker 3: of Freedom?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 3: So in the Sound of Freedom it says, you know,
Speaker 3: when you sell a bag of cocaine, somebody takes it,
Speaker 3: they snort it. It's gone. You can't do it again.
Speaker 3: You snorted it, it's gone. Now you've got to go
Speaker 3: buy some more. But in human trafficking, when you buy
Speaker 3: that child, you're going to have sex with that child
Speaker 3: twelve times a day for ten years.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, al to.
Speaker 3: Do something with where they've lost their looks, where their
Speaker 3: organs are shutting down, and now you just you know,
Speaker 3: take out their body parts and traffic drugs inside them
Speaker 3: so you're still able to use them a couple of times.
Speaker 2: They get their money's worth out of them poor kids.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely sure.
Speaker 5: Now that's not to say the South Africa is like
Speaker 5: some sort of a massive hub for human trafficking. I
Speaker 5: mean no more or less so than any other country
Speaker 5: that you don't really think about much.
Speaker 4: They have it one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: There's only one country on Earth where slavery, like open,
Speaker 5: full on legal slavery is still happening, and that's Mauritania.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, it's in Africa. But as far
Speaker 5: as the sex trade, that's going on. So I'll give
Speaker 5: you another example of this at my church. I've told
Speaker 5: you about Sharon, and he's got his orphanage that he
Speaker 5: has in Pakistan, right that Pakistan's a two percent Christian population,
Speaker 5: and he is literally just trying to save these children
Speaker 5: from working in this brickyard, which is the only real
Speaker 5: industry in this small little village, is pounding bricks out
Speaker 5: with clay, leaving them in the sun, and they get
Speaker 5: paid pennies. It is absolute squal in this country right now.
Speaker 5: In America, for instance, if you can't pay your mortgage,
Speaker 5: the bank will come and take your house. Right in Pakistan,
Speaker 5: if you can't pay your mortgage, the police will come
Speaker 5: and take your daughters and take them into slavery to
Speaker 5: pay off the debt and the matter is resolved. So
Speaker 5: this mother recently just had to give her two daughters
Speaker 5: to Sharoon with this ministry because the bank was coming
Speaker 5: the next day and those children were not going to
Speaker 5: the brickyard to work off their mother's debt. Okay, there
Speaker 5: are certain countries where it's literally just dollars in numbers
Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter. There's no actual morality to it,
Speaker 5: especially young girls who are like young poverty stricken girls,
Speaker 5: and so many societies are seen as the lowest of
Speaker 5: the lowest rung, and it's horrible what this can go down.
Speaker 4: And everybody thinks it's just in the Central.
Speaker 5: America, or it's just in Africa, or it's just like no, dude,
Speaker 5: this is world wide.
Speaker 3: The guy the the Sound of Freedom was about he
Speaker 3: discovered that in Africa that I saw this on another
Speaker 3: interview with him, that they were making adrenochrome.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I mean, of course, if you're if you're
Speaker 2: done with well, and you don't even necessarily have to
Speaker 2: kill the kid to take the adrenochrome that could just
Speaker 2: be pulled out. You just got to scare the shit
Speaker 2: out of them, get their their blood adrenalized. And but
Speaker 2: I guess you know, if you're going Hillary Clinton and
Speaker 2: Juma Abadeen style, you want it from the actual source,
Speaker 2: from what they call walnut sauce, which is basically just
Speaker 2: pulling out the pontial gland after they've scared the shit
Speaker 2: out of these little kids and then eating said walnut.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, dude, the adrenochrome labs, the the
Speaker 4: these places. At that point, once this person, but definitely
Speaker 4: a child, also is sold. They're come on, they are
Speaker 4: used for all of the purposes, not just one maybe,
Speaker 4: but it's more than likely they get used for everything
Speaker 4: we're talking about, literally until they die. And that's just it.
Speaker 3: I think one of the horrible things was to hear
Speaker 3: that what's that woman's name, Abramovich, that she was put
Speaker 3: in charge of children's education in the Ukraine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the ambassadors personally invited her to be the educational
Speaker 5: ambassador to the children of Ukraine, and bro what.
Speaker 3: Right? You know there's pictures of her walking out of
Speaker 3: the woods on a very cold day with Lady Gaga naked,
Speaker 3: and she says that Lady Gaga is willing to go
Speaker 3: to all the extremes she puts her to, that she's
Speaker 3: the best student she's ever had.
Speaker 5: I don't like Marina Bronvic's sculptures of toddlers with genital
Speaker 5: mutilation and how that was just an artistic expression of hers.
Speaker 5: I don't want her within a mile of a child,
Speaker 5: let alone in charge of children's education. Maybe I'm the
Speaker 5: weirdo for that. Maybe I just don't get modern art.
Speaker 5: But I'm comfortable dying on that hill.
Speaker 2: Just me same.
Speaker 3: She's a magical not a magically an art display where
Speaker 3: she made like an altar, it's more like a table
Speaker 3: and she got on it, I think, naked, and invited
Speaker 3: people to come up and do whatever they wanted to
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a social experiment slash artistic expression, if
Speaker 5: you will, and it was one of her more famous ones.
Speaker 5: And to be honest with you, I actually look at
Speaker 5: it like a social experiment because that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 5: There was a whole table of things that these people
Speaker 5: could have taken, like a rose and just like rubbed
Speaker 5: a rose pedal on her cheek. There was also a
Speaker 5: needle they could have stabbed her with it if they wanted,
Speaker 5: whatever the case was. And it was interesting how the
Speaker 5: people started off with very kind things and then slowly
Speaker 5: but surely and they built off of each other just
Speaker 5: to see who could one up the other people turned
Speaker 5: towards the negative. But I also feel like when you
Speaker 5: had negative things on the table you opened up in
Speaker 5: the obvious opportunity for it. If you would have put
Speaker 5: only positive things on the table, you wouldn't have had
Speaker 5: that conversation. If you would have put only negative things
Speaker 5: on the table. I wonder if the first person would
Speaker 5: have even moved to try something. I'm just I'm saying
Speaker 5: that it was a interesting social experiment slash artistic expression,
Speaker 5: but also the deck was heavily loaded.
Speaker 3: She did spirit cooking, and cooking takes breast, milk, sperm,
Speaker 3: and blood and urine. And she does that, and she
Speaker 3: shows what she's done with it. And she said, in
Speaker 3: a museum it's art, but at a Satanic gathering, it's
Speaker 3: a Satanic ceremony. And I said, let's see how truthful
Speaker 3: Satan is because if I go to church, I go
Speaker 3: to a Catholic church. I had sent a Catholic Mass.
Speaker 3: If that priest decides to come to my house and
Speaker 3: hold a Catholic Mass, it's a Catholic Mass. And let's
Speaker 3: say he does that same mass at a museum, it's
Speaker 3: still a Catholic mass. I'm thinking Satan's a liar. It's
Speaker 3: a Satanic ceremony no matter where you do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, and it's also intentions too, right,
Speaker 2: Like you gotta, you're probably going in with some kind
Speaker 2: of ill intentions. It doesn't matter really where. Oh I
Speaker 2: guess maybe it does matter where. Maybe it probably just
Speaker 2: heightens it a little bit. But if you're performing some
Speaker 2: kind of satanic ritual or something like that, or I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's I don't understand it as as well
Speaker 2: as you do. Obviously, I'm still just soaking it all up.
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to learn all this stuff because it's
Speaker 2: important that we all, you know, try and eventually learn.
Speaker 4: All of it.
Speaker 3: But what's that you need to know your enemy? Right?
Speaker 2: Right? So there is another article that I wanted to share,
Speaker 2: and this article is by the Root dot com. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever heard of it, the real
Speaker 2: but very interesting piece of information that came out back
Speaker 2: in June, so after the allegations or right around the
Speaker 2: same time. It says sug Knight's shocking claim about Diddy
Speaker 2: might explain a lot. So it says, even from prison,
Speaker 2: sug Knight is making his voice loud and clear about
Speaker 2: his biggest rival in the music industry. During the latest
Speaker 2: episode of his podcast, Collect Call with sug Knight. Dude,
Speaker 2: he has a fucking that is hilarious that he has
Speaker 2: a podcast that he is collect calling from a from
Speaker 2: a phone inside of jail for a podcast.
Speaker 5: That's pretty The man's an influence from the inside. It's
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, dude, It's a wild time to be alive.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, Lil Wayne made a song from inside
Speaker 2: of jail. You remember that? Facts but it says The
Speaker 2: former death Row Records boss gave his insight on Diddy,
Speaker 2: claiming that the controversial hip hop mogul has been an
Speaker 2: FBI informant for a long time now, and it's something
Speaker 2: that people in the industry have known for a while.
Speaker 2: He goes on to say, it's a lot of things
Speaker 2: that people been knowing, and everybody gets judged differently. It
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a gray area when it comes to doing
Speaker 2: something right, doing something positive, or doing something for the community.
Speaker 2: That being said, naturally, Puffy been an FBI informant for
Speaker 2: forever as as they would say. That's why it's different
Speaker 2: when it comes to him, He goes regardless of who
Speaker 2: gets hurt, all everybody been saying is Puffy, Puffy Puffy.
Speaker 2: I think they shouldn't They shouldn't all blame everything on Puffy.
Speaker 2: His exes in the industry knew about it, about him
Speaker 2: being an FBI informant. Everybody and his crew knew about it.
Speaker 2: The bitches he dates knew about it. Everybody knew about it,
Speaker 2: So don't push away from it now. And then it
Speaker 2: goes on to say that although we don't know for
Speaker 2: sure if Diddy is an informant in the FBI, it's
Speaker 2: a thought others have expressed in the past. Just months ago,
Speaker 2: conservative personality Candace Owens theorized that Diddy was not imprisoned
Speaker 2: following the release of the horrifying Cassie surveillance video from
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen because he was an informant. This is what
Speaker 2: Candace own believes that he's an importmant Her quote says
Speaker 2: he's not in jail because he's a FED slash CIA asset.
Speaker 2: The LA District Attorney Office posted that the statute of
Speaker 2: limitations on arresting Diddy over the Cassie attack has passed.
Speaker 2: This is also something Kanye West alluded to in his
Speaker 2: infamous twenty twenty two interview with Drink Champs, where he
Speaker 2: said as far as Meek mill Puff Daddy, whoever. None
Speaker 2: of these gentlemen, I'll just replace that word, none of
Speaker 2: these said. So all of you are fake hard gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, he goes. You can't shoot nobody anyway. And
Speaker 2: the reason why you got to talk is because you
Speaker 2: did a deal. You fucking fed. That's why you've got
Speaker 2: to come at me, because part of the deal for
Speaker 2: you to be able to do all of that and
Speaker 2: get out of jail is that you promised that you
Speaker 2: are gonna go pull my card. So that's that's what
Speaker 2: Kanye is saying about Diddy. He goes, it says, though
Speaker 2: he's not directly connected to Diddy's current legal problems. It
Speaker 2: was also rumored that the music mogul's father, Melvin Combs,
Speaker 2: was a police Oh shit, he Diddy's dad was a
Speaker 2: police police informant and is part of the reason that
Speaker 2: he was murdered in nineteen seventy two. That has never
Speaker 2: been confirmed, and was even shot down by infamous drug
Speaker 2: lord turn and informant Frank Lucas in his twenty ten
Speaker 2: book The Original Gangster, which was a great movie.
Speaker 4: So Frank Lucas even said that Ditty's dad was not.
Speaker 2: An informant said that he wasn't right, but many people
Speaker 2: believe that, and so it's a rumor.
Speaker 5: Anyway, it says necessarily mean that he was an informant
Speaker 5: for Frank Lucas there were other crimes, and it gets working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it says here it says that he wrote
Speaker 2: in the book he said, he wrote that Melvin was,
Speaker 2: in quotes, one of the few people I considered a friend,
Speaker 2: and that snitching was not Melvin's style. Anyone who says
Speaker 2: different is lying. So all right, well, either way, I
Speaker 2: never heard the I never heard the rumor about Ditty's
Speaker 2: dad being a fucking informant. That is interesting.
Speaker 5: Although okay, and your boy or your boy, your girl,
Speaker 5: uh giz Laine or whatever however you pronounce her name,
Speaker 5: then Grady was moussade right, So them getting blackmail and
Speaker 5: leverage on certain individuals in that realm makes sense.
Speaker 4: So zech, let me ask you.
Speaker 5: You're saying that the organization that you used to belong
Speaker 5: to would also do things like this to get leverage
Speaker 5: on people or is this more of a right of passage?
Speaker 4: Was it both? And then do you believe that Diddy
Speaker 4: was doing it for that purpose?
Speaker 3: You have different arrangements. When you want to become a
Speaker 3: rock star, you got to do one of four gross things.
Speaker 3: You only have to choose one of them, and they're
Speaker 3: choosing videotape of what you're doing. I really suspect that
Speaker 3: P Diddy chose the pedophile route. You know, you get
Speaker 3: pedophile versus do something else. You know, he decided, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm already a pedophile, might as well do that one.
Speaker 3: That's easy. So he does that, and then they see
Speaker 3: what he likes, so they just keep this going with him.
Speaker 3: You know, he could have been Do you remember the
Speaker 3: suit the suicides of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington.
Speaker 4: We did an episode on it, Yes.
Speaker 2: Sir, that was actually our very first episode that me
Speaker 2: and Jacob did together whenever he was a full time
Speaker 2: member of the Cult of Conspiracy. Oddly enough, damn over
Speaker 2: four years ago.
Speaker 3: All right, So you guys know that they were going
Speaker 3: to reveal the pedophile scandal in the music industry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they let people know that in public, and then
Speaker 3: they both committed suicide. That was strange, and in our
Speaker 3: business that's called being suicided out. You're murdered, but it's
Speaker 3: made to look like suicide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which By the way, there is striking similarity between
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was John or Tony Podesta
Speaker 2: and Chester Bennington. If anybody's ever looked at a side
Speaker 2: by side picture of one of the Podestas and Chester Bennington,
Speaker 2: it is you couldn't convince me that they're not related,
Speaker 2: almost identical, like same face.
Speaker 3: If we're gonna talk about that, then we got to
Speaker 3: talk about Alistair Crowley and Barbara Bush.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, someone's a dude, right, said she's a dude, right,
Speaker 5: Barbara Bush?
Speaker 4: She was a handsome broad Okay. She she was a sturdy,
Speaker 4: sturdy gal. Okay. She she looked like.
Speaker 5: The type of woman that could that could potentially pay
Speaker 5: someone to slam in the kitchen. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: for sure, But I've heard this theory. I haven't heard
Speaker 5: many people talk about it because it's it's not the
Speaker 5: boldest claim ever, but it's just it's off the beaten
Speaker 5: path a bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but you know, when you look at her
Speaker 3: picture and his picture, it's like whoa Like if you
Speaker 3: thought there's no way they're really related, and then you
Speaker 3: see the two pictures side by side. Mm hmm. And
Speaker 3: that that's close.
Speaker 2: Bro, That is a that's a dude. I like you,
Speaker 2: look at Barbara Bush. That is a gentleman right there.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying that that look. But if she
Speaker 3: got off the horse, she would knock it out, so
Speaker 3: you couldn't steal it.
Speaker 5: I'll say this, there's no denying that Bush Junior came
Speaker 5: from Daddy Bush. Okay, so that being the mama that
Speaker 5: shakes out, you could see how George w came from
Speaker 5: those two.
Speaker 2: You mean, old old Dog and may Doog. Is that
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here, dude?
Speaker 5: It is in fact, that is in fact what we
Speaker 5: are talking about at this time, sir.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my, that face is disturbing.
Speaker 4: Look at this, look at oh god, that's that's a dude.
Speaker 4: That's a very unflattering shadow on that jawline.
Speaker 5: Like all right, you know, I want to be respectful,
Speaker 5: but like, oh it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard, Babs.
Speaker 2: You're a guy, Okay, just accept it. We all know.
Speaker 5: Handsome broad just like Michael Obama, just like Big Mike.
Speaker 5: She's handsome, handsome broad. That's broad shoulders on him too.
Speaker 5: That is scary.
Speaker 4: That's that's goddamn.
Speaker 2: Dud, dude, look at the younger dude, to come on,
Speaker 2: the younger picture too.
Speaker 4: Look at that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, come on, I'm trying to be nice.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know Georgie Senior, he he kind
Speaker 2: of looks a little fruity in this picture.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, Georgie Senior only got the name Magog because he
Speaker 5: was doing or had accomplished, the most sexually depraved act
Speaker 5: of anybody else in the room. And this is as
Speaker 5: a senior in college. So I mean he bags that.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's into that, like maybe he was the beta
Speaker 5: mail CUK and he liked, like, oh, a manly looking
Speaker 5: woman to.
Speaker 4: Take charge in the bit. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He was in there, uh, eating those coum donuts from
Speaker 2: Wilder dude, that's what he was doing. Well, and you
Speaker 2: look over here, you see where old Barry got his
Speaker 2: idea from. You know, he was like, oh no, there
Speaker 2: was a string of that for a while.
Speaker 5: Look at Killery right then he got big Mike, he
Speaker 5: got the oh man, there was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, whenever you start looking at Barbara Bush like
Speaker 2: she's a man.
Speaker 5: You can't from that to a Playboy centerfold as our
Speaker 5: first lady.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you can't unsee this, dude. Look at
Speaker 2: them shoulders.
Speaker 4: That's pads, dude. Those are the nineties pads were the ship.
Speaker 2: She's lining up in the fucking slot out on the gridiron.
Speaker 2: That's what she's doing. She's trying to take some slants.
Speaker 2: She's trying to take him to the house. Dude.
Speaker 5: She looks like somebody's mobiles trying to take you to
Speaker 5: the kitchen to make you cookies.
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, I wouldn't need them.
Speaker 4: We were derailing here. Oh that's a bad picture.
Speaker 2: Oh is that? Is that a better one for you there, Jacob.
Speaker 2: That's a better picture right there for you, Bud.
Speaker 5: If anybody is just listening to us or react to
Speaker 5: this and would like to see this for yourselves, please
Speaker 5: Jonathan tell it where they can go.
Speaker 2: Even the memoriam. Come on, dude, find some kind.
Speaker 4: Of flattering picture for sure.
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Speaker 2: those are particularly the least boring of every show ever done.
Speaker 5: Oh it's fun as so, it is, indeed, and it's
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Speaker 4: The show as a whole. Sew, thank you for doing so. Dude,
Speaker 4: look at.
Speaker 3: Look at young Babs and you guys send me the
Speaker 3: episode about uh Chester Bennington.
Speaker 5: Chris Cornell sure, hol yeah, I apologize now the audio
Speaker 5: is asked. This was literally over four years ago and
Speaker 5: we were very new to the podcasting world.
Speaker 2: But we were We were sharing one blue snowball microphone.
Speaker 4: Yep, us beat into the computer. Do we even have
Speaker 4: a mixer?
Speaker 2: There was no mixer, there was no headphones, there was
Speaker 2: just my laptop and a thirty five dollars microphone that
Speaker 2: we were sharing.
Speaker 4: And what a wild ride this has been, sir.
Speaker 2: Anyway, dude, doesn't she kind of look like Elon in
Speaker 2: this picture?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 5: Hold on, are you saying that there could be a
Speaker 5: connection there? Are you telling me that she's African American?
Speaker 2: I mean, she could be of South African descent.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: I mean, who's to say Elon Musk is a wonderful
Speaker 5: African American man, Charlie Starn a wonderful African American actress.
Speaker 5: If this is true and Barbara Bush was actually an
Speaker 5: African American, that'd be wild. But did Alistair Crowley spend
Speaker 5: time in South Africa? I want to say. I heard
Speaker 5: something about him spending time I know in Egypt?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. A He interviewed a god named I
Speaker 3: was sounds like I'd be stating, yeah, since god as
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 4: Do you know where that interview took place?
Speaker 3: In a pyramid?
Speaker 4: Okay? That was in Egypt?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, Damn, Jonathan, I don't even know what that
Speaker 5: connection lines up, but it kind of does in this moment,
Speaker 5: and that's a little wild.
Speaker 2: I think that they're all kind of interrelated, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. I mean, we hear about you know,
Speaker 2: them wanting to keep the blood in the in the family, right,
Speaker 2: and so of course some of them are going to
Speaker 2: look pretty similar. Some of them may come out with
Speaker 2: an any and an audi, and some of them are
Speaker 2: going to be you know, maybe they'll be called a
Speaker 2: certain gender at birth that they aren't that actual gender,
Speaker 2: and then they get brought up and eventually become First
Speaker 2: Ladies of the United States. It's happened multiple times. From
Speaker 2: from our understanding.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, apparently we've already got some historical precedence
Speaker 5: for this as of a few years ago, and maybe
Speaker 5: maybe potentially even further back.
Speaker 4: We actually don't be knowing.
Speaker 2: I mean, and look, I get that that sounds crazy
Speaker 2: to just the average person that we could have had
Speaker 2: uh men portraying females in the White House. I get that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you understand all the
Speaker 2: ritual like behavior, this could be one giant ritual if
Speaker 2: you really think about it, Like if you look at all, right,
Speaker 2: Barry had Michelle in there for eight years, I mean,
Speaker 2: Michelle big Mike could easily dunk on Barry like it's
Speaker 2: not even a question. Like everybody understands that those shoulders
Speaker 2: and those long octopus arms that she has nothing against
Speaker 2: long arms. I got short, little stubby t rex arm.
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm saying that out of jealousy. That's totally
Speaker 2: okay too, But like, I think that it would be
Speaker 2: part of the long ritual because if you can confuse
Speaker 2: and basically full and manipulate the masses into believing that
Speaker 2: this human rate here clearly you know, a dude is
Speaker 2: a woman, you can convince them of anything. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna lower your taxes. You know, we're
Speaker 2: gonna you know what I mean, Like politicians, they lie, right.
Speaker 5: They pulled the wool over everybody's eyes really heavily, and
Speaker 5: then cut to Trump her Literally a playboy spread has
Speaker 5: been made.
Speaker 4: Of her at one point in time.
Speaker 5: So like, there may be multiple reasons why they didn't
Speaker 5: like Trump. He was going against all kinds of status quos.
Speaker 2: Man reckon the ritual, dude, right.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Zach, what do you think where are you
Speaker 4: at with this?
Speaker 3: I think we live in a very nefarious world. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think that there is no limit to the
Speaker 3: depravity that we're willing to put up with. Not only
Speaker 3: is it what they're willing to do to us, but
Speaker 3: what are we willing to take? Did you guys watch
Speaker 3: the opening ceremony at the Olympics.
Speaker 5: Oh my God, and the closing ceremony literally was talking
Speaker 5: about a pollion, the light bringer in his big goldenness,
Speaker 5: carrying down the rings for the Olympics across the world.
Speaker 5: The zombies they completely start to finish. The opening ceremony
Speaker 5: was blasphemous, the closing ceremony was blasphemous. The pale horse
Speaker 5: riding was I mean, start to finish. Then they tried saying, oh,
Speaker 5: it's just artistic expression. Then you talk to the artists
Speaker 5: about their expression, and they were very open with the
Speaker 5: fact that yes, that is exactly what it was supposed
Speaker 5: to look like and be like, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The night that had opened, there was a blackout in
Speaker 3: France where almost all of France went dark and the
Speaker 3: only light that existed was a Catholic church, a cathedral.
Speaker 3: But they don't have their own power supply, they had
Speaker 3: electricity and none of the rest of France did. Is
Speaker 3: that like, We're taking pictures of it and saying, God's
Speaker 3: upset God's showing where he is and where he's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, and I like so just out
Speaker 2: of curiosity. One of those names that were mentioned was
Speaker 2: Mark Wahlberg, who is a known Catholic. What is your
Speaker 2: first opinion about that? I mean, are you? I mean,
Speaker 2: he is in Hollywood, he has done a lot of movies,
Speaker 2: he has been in the music industry. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on market.
Speaker 4: Marky Boogie Knights as a porn star?
Speaker 3: Right right? He could be the bad guy. You may
Speaker 3: not be the bad guy. I mean, just because you're
Speaker 3: listed doesn't mean that you actually did something you weren't
Speaker 3: supposed to. You could have been invited and shown up
Speaker 3: not knowing what you're going for. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 3: get there and you discover, oh, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: know I was going to be doing this. And then
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it depends on you know, what
Speaker 3: happens next. And there's some people that go to Hollywood
Speaker 3: parties because they think that I can rub elbows with
Speaker 3: the elite and get job, you know, get some movie
Speaker 3: career that I don't currently have, you know, And sometimes
Speaker 3: you go and everything's on the up and up. Not
Speaker 3: very often. Sometimes you go and you find out you
Speaker 3: got to sleep with somebody to move on, which is
Speaker 3: most likely what happens. But it's not just sleeping with people,
Speaker 3: it's you get invited. It's like a slow, steady number
Speaker 3: of increments of saying yes. It's like if they ask
Speaker 3: you right off the bat to eat a bowl of
Speaker 3: vomit and mixed in with dog boot, you want to
Speaker 3: say no. But what if you start off first with
Speaker 3: try this nut. It's got some dirt on it, don't
Speaker 3: worry about that. Yeah, well, why don't you try this?
Speaker 3: Why don't you try this? You know, and get them
Speaker 3: to try things that are borderline questionable fear factor. You're
Speaker 3: gonna eat a dinosaur testicle, yeah, or a bull testical,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is, you know, or eat a
Speaker 3: dinosaur egg, you know, And it's like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: I can do it. And even the bull testicles, if
Speaker 3: you've ever seen one of the people bite into it, yeah,
Speaker 3: it ops in their mouth. You know, it's like a
Speaker 3: moment right there.
Speaker 5: But then they had to keep up in the anne right,
Speaker 5: And even Rogan says that at a point it just
Speaker 5: got like coagulated cowballs are like rotten sheep's brain and
Speaker 5: it's like, bro, what like.
Speaker 3: No, right, But you know, as you're in this room
Speaker 3: and you eventually graduate this room, now you've got to
Speaker 3: go to a different room, and in that room there's
Speaker 3: grosser stuff then what was in this one. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: it's mainly just a little bit grosser. And you do
Speaker 3: those things and you're thinking you're doing pretty good. You know,
Speaker 3: you're moving up. This is the rock star level. And
Speaker 3: then they open this other door and they're like, now,
Speaker 3: if you do this stuff, you're going to be Will Smith,
Speaker 3: you know. And you're like, okay. So you do a
Speaker 3: couple more things, and after a while you're eating the
Speaker 3: bowl of dog poop and drinking the vomit and sleeping
Speaker 3: with some children. But this took maybe a year to
Speaker 3: get to. When you started out a year ago, you
Speaker 3: were eating a nut that had some dirt on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta keep on trading that paper clip, you know.
Speaker 4: Right, But I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 5: Mark Wahlberg, Okay, let's look at him, right, So Marky
Speaker 5: Mark and the Funky Bunch trying to break out into
Speaker 5: hip hop for some ungodly reason. And I could see
Speaker 5: him in Diddy being connected through the music side of
Speaker 5: things in that realm. Then when he swapped to acting,
Speaker 5: Boogie Knights being the first big movie that he did,
Speaker 5: if I'm not saying the first movie that he did,
Speaker 5: and it was all about porn and about basically prostitution
Speaker 5: at one point in time, and this whole story now
Speaker 5: to say that that's what he quote unquote had to do,
Speaker 5: or maybe he was a part of one of those
Speaker 5: parties or something like that and did things that are horrible, whatever,
Speaker 5: is it possible that he's seen the light and that
Speaker 5: he's now turned things around and he's trying to call
Speaker 5: people to the church and to pray with him and
Speaker 5: all these things.
Speaker 4: Very similarly, I think about Russell Brand.
Speaker 5: It's no shocking fact that he was a part of
Speaker 5: all kinds of groups that did all kinds of things.
Speaker 5: These days, he's a proud and devout Catholic man, and
Speaker 5: I some people believe that that is an act, that
Speaker 5: it's all a part of the you know, the caricature,
Speaker 5: if you will. I hope that that's not the case.
Speaker 5: And with Mark Wahlberg, I feel the same way, honestly,
Speaker 5: And it's not just because I'm a fan of him
Speaker 5: as an actor. I genuinely hope that about pretty much
Speaker 5: everybody on this list, that they have in some way,
Speaker 5: shape or form, found God and have gotten right with
Speaker 5: that to like face the music for the shit they've done.
Speaker 4: I hope and pray for that for them. You know.
Speaker 3: Well, Oprah back in the I think the eighties, one
Speaker 3: of her shows, she said that there's more than one
Speaker 3: path to God, you know, and it's like the Bible
Speaker 3: doesn't say that, right, you know. And then she promoted
Speaker 3: what was that book that was about magic, The Secret?
Speaker 4: The Secret?
Speaker 2: Oh this, I love The Secret actually, but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: basically a manifestation kind of book. But yeah, right, makes sense.
Speaker 3: She took credit for Barack Obama being the president.
Speaker 4: I could see her doing that too.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, without Oprah, we would never have had Barrock Obama.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, that's that's not that's not true at all.
Speaker 3: But okay, Well, she said that she made a poster
Speaker 3: board so that she could picture that every day as
Speaker 3: Barack Obama being the president. And she did it when
Speaker 3: she was on the bathtub, when she was in the bathroom,
Speaker 3: when she was just woke up in the morning, she
Speaker 3: would see these things. And I think she was interviewing
Speaker 3: Barack Obama when she told him, you know, I'm the
Speaker 3: one that got you into the White House because I
Speaker 3: kept picturing these things.
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna throw this out. Is it possible
Speaker 5: that Oprah Winfrey was potentially aroused at the sight of
Speaker 5: Old Barry and that's why she put pictures of him
Speaker 5: up in very strategic places in the bathtub, in the bedroom,
Speaker 5: first thing in the morning. Like, did she have a
Speaker 5: weird fetish for Old Berry? And she's just trying to
Speaker 5: make it seem like it was a manifestation thing. In reality,
Speaker 5: she's like asking for a three way with him and
Speaker 5: Big Mike.
Speaker 4: I'm just I don't know, but it sounds kind of
Speaker 4: weird to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had Stedman so involved.
Speaker 2: Oh man, look, I think that whenever he gets to
Speaker 2: this kind of level, whether you're doing it for the
Speaker 2: fame or for the money, maybe you want both. I
Speaker 2: think that almost anybody, not almost anybody. There are a
Speaker 2: lot of people out there that will absolutely do almost
Speaker 2: anything for money, especially if they're desperate enough. And as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I got a story it's a
Speaker 2: little bit disturbing. I would suggest if you have kids
Speaker 2: in the car while you're listening to this, don't but
Speaker 2: if you do, fast forward for the next five minutes
Speaker 2: at least because this is in the car.
Speaker 4: Don't listen to us on speaker like ever, just off top.
Speaker 5: Just don't be a bad parent about it, okay, like
Speaker 5: for real, but anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I was. I was talking to this
Speaker 2: one chick and she goes, yeah, I used to do OnlyFans.
Speaker 2: I said, oh, okay, like how much you know, cause
Speaker 2: you hear some people they try out OnlyFans and they
Speaker 2: don't end up making that much money from it. But
Speaker 2: she said that she was making like five grand a
Speaker 2: month from it. I was like, oh, that's cool, Like,
Speaker 2: were you doing anything like crazy because you hear all
Speaker 2: the stories you know, like about certain people may do
Speaker 2: with only fans. I'm not judging. Hey do you boo
Speaker 2: boo get your money right? But she goes, oh no,
Speaker 2: it was basically like some solo action. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get into that. But like she goes, well, my
Speaker 2: five grande is nothing compared to my roommates. She goes,
Speaker 2: my roommate was making twenty grand a month. I was like, damn.
Speaker 2: I was like, is she like extra good looking or
Speaker 2: what was she doing. She goes, no, she's not, like
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're basically looked like sisters, not
Speaker 2: really different as far as looks go. It's just that
Speaker 2: she was willing to go the extra mile. And I
Speaker 2: was like, what does that mean? Well, turns out Jacob Gatt, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yep, she'd be into pooping on things and people like
Speaker 5: watching it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, it goes even farther. So this cub what's that girls?
Speaker 3: One cup?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly that. Well, so she was making a bunch
Speaker 2: of like a lot of money every month by taking
Speaker 2: these poop videos, which I will never understand how that
Speaker 2: is a sexy thing. I just can't wrap my mind
Speaker 2: around that. But she was making these poop videos, and
Speaker 2: she was giving them to all of her only fans fans,
Speaker 2: and then she had one particular guest that said, how
Speaker 2: much do I have to pay you for you to
Speaker 2: send me a container of that?
Speaker 4: Oh? My god?
Speaker 2: And so she goes, well, I don't really feel comfortable
Speaker 2: about mailing this, but I'll you know what, She goes,
Speaker 2: you give me a thousand bucks, I'll I'll mail it
Speaker 2: to you. She mails it to him, and like a
Speaker 2: day later, two days later, whenever she gets or whenever
Speaker 2: he ends up getting in the mail. He writes back
Speaker 2: to her and says, this is now.
Speaker 4: I know where you're about to go, and I'm already gagging.
Speaker 2: He writes back to her and says, what did you
Speaker 2: eat that day? And she goes She goes, Oh, I
Speaker 2: was eating, you know, pretty healthy, because I knew I
Speaker 2: was going to be sending this to you, So I
Speaker 2: mainly just had like a bunch of fruit smoothies and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, yeah, that sounds about right. I
Speaker 2: thought I tasted seeds.
Speaker 4: Oh knew that was dude.
Speaker 2: She went she went and tracked where that guy was living,
Speaker 2: because I mean he had you didn't know.
Speaker 4: If that fucker's down the street, Like, let's be.
Speaker 2: Real, well, she had to look up the address in
Speaker 2: order to be able to send it, right, So she
Speaker 2: went to go look it up to see like what
Speaker 2: that address was to whatever it was. A dude, it
Speaker 2: was a Chinese restaurant in the middle of Chicago.
Speaker 4: That about checks out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, fucking that is just front and shy rag Dog,
Speaker 9: which I'm not gonna lie bringing that up does kind
Speaker 9: of make me want some Panda Express, but not for
Speaker 9: the shit.
Speaker 4: And also like, yo, a thousand dollars, they're shit in
Speaker 4: a jar.
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, that's weird, but I'm not like getting
Speaker 5: upset at her for it. That's the easiest money I
Speaker 5: think I've ever heard someone making their life well.
Speaker 2: And supposedly she she had a couple of failed attempts
Speaker 2: at mailing it out at first, for the fuck because
Speaker 2: she didn't because she didn't know that she had to
Speaker 2: take the container and then saran wrap it and then
Speaker 2: bubble wrap it and then put it in a box.
Speaker 2: So initially what she did was she just put it
Speaker 2: in a container inside of a box. Well, I guess
Speaker 2: it was wreaking so bad that the person at the
Speaker 2: post office was like, what do you got in here?
Speaker 2: And she knew like that wasn't the first time that
Speaker 2: that that person at the post office had dealed with
Speaker 2: had dealt with like shit in a box?
Speaker 4: Is that sure? The reason you can't mail in stool samples? Y'all?
Speaker 5: You got like, oh my god, this is a wild
Speaker 5: time to be alive.
Speaker 2: Gents, Mike, It's probably the wildest time to be alive.
Speaker 2: I mean, just.
Speaker 3: You're alive right now. This is when God wanted you
Speaker 3: to be here, so it's the perfect time for you
Speaker 3: to be here, for.
Speaker 2: Us to talk about ship box stories. Dude, that's our
Speaker 2: purpose right now.
Speaker 5: But you know it's like, God, I was gonna say something,
Speaker 5: but never mind that kind of that would have derailed
Speaker 5: it even further.
Speaker 4: But like that makes sense that we were supposed.
Speaker 5: To be here during this time because the people of
Speaker 5: the past wouldn't have known what to do with this
Speaker 5: type of information.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we're able, we're able to laugh at it.
Speaker 5: Could you imagine talking to your great grandfather and explaining
Speaker 5: to him that you know a woman of marrying age
Speaker 5: who would rather shit in a jar and someone's paying
Speaker 5: her a grand for it. Like, could you imagine your
Speaker 5: great grandfather trying to wrap his brain around.
Speaker 4: That there's there's reasons.
Speaker 5: And it's also like you said, Zachary, they have diluted
Speaker 5: it little by little. We've been uh, we've been U
Speaker 5: not demoralized, U desensitized.
Speaker 4: Desensitized, thank you, John.
Speaker 5: We've been desensitized to these things to such a point
Speaker 5: to where we are laughing about that rather than puking.
Speaker 5: Right like you said, two girls, one cup, it's made
Speaker 5: cultural permutations, Like it's it's really wild how it's all
Speaker 5: played out. Man, you're right, and we're supposed to be
Speaker 5: here for it.
Speaker 3: Two girls, one cup ended up in Family Guy.
Speaker 5: Yep, like it's it made its rounds and the cultural
Speaker 5: realms for sure.
Speaker 3: What was another Broke Back Mountain? Yeah, he made his
Speaker 3: debut on Family Guy. It showed a horse walk up
Speaker 3: to the tent and look in and see what two
Speaker 3: guys were doing, and then it ran off a cliff.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, well these guys.
Speaker 4: Doing and he ran away. Yeah, I remember that one.
Speaker 2: It's fucked up. I love Family Guy. It's great. So
Speaker 2: but you know what though, speaking of Family Guy, Seth MacFarlane,
Speaker 2: he was supposed to be, wasn't he supposed to be
Speaker 2: in the airplane or in one of the one of
Speaker 2: the twin towers on that day? Then he didn't. He
Speaker 2: just so happened to cancel his trip that day. Remember
Speaker 2: that story? Is that verified?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a true story. He actually talks about it.
Speaker 2: He's I mean, he looks at it in a sense
Speaker 2: of like, you know, what a coincidence that I just
Speaker 2: decided not to go that day.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: But I've heard stories of people like that that worked
Speaker 5: in the buildings that for some reason just like just
Speaker 5: felt like they shouldn't have gone in that day and
Speaker 5: all this, Like there's all kinds of crazy stuff like that,
Speaker 5: But I mean, knowing what he became and how influential
Speaker 5: he became, that's also kind of fascinating.
Speaker 3: I I watched a lot of documentaries on Netflix, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of murder mystery type stuff. Yeah, and one
Speaker 3: was it's this series of serial killers, and like when
Speaker 3: you watch the first episode, the end, whatever happens at
Speaker 3: the very end of it leads you into the next
Speaker 3: episode about that serial killer. So it's one right after another.
Speaker 3: And this one detective was saying that he showed up
Speaker 3: one day, like he got called to something and he
Speaker 3: just went. He was sweaty and disheveled, but he showed
Speaker 3: up because he wanted to be on time. And his
Speaker 3: boss saw him there and yelled at him and said,
Speaker 3: next time you look like this, you drive home and
Speaker 3: you take a shower and you put on some nice
Speaker 3: clothes first. You know, we don't need the public seeing
Speaker 3: you like that. So one day they got a call
Speaker 3: about something and he was like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I know better. So he went home, took a shower,
Speaker 3: changed his clothes, put on a suit, and drove downtown
Speaker 3: to where he needed to go. And by then, one
Speaker 3: of the towers had already collapsed and he was supposed
Speaker 3: to be in that tower.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And because he didn't want to get yelled at again,
Speaker 3: he drove home and he saw the second plane fly
Speaker 3: into the second building.
Speaker 4: An asshole boss saved his life.
Speaker 3: Look at that, right, that is cool. It's crazy, But
Speaker 3: it's like there's so many. Like there's a story about
Speaker 3: a guy that was like nineteen or twenty years old.
Speaker 3: He had been to all of his jobs. All of
Speaker 3: his employees loved him because he was always on time,
Speaker 3: and his alarm went off late and he woke up
Speaker 3: and he's like, what what happened? Oh my gosh. So
Speaker 3: he hurries up, takes a shower, changes his clothes, runs
Speaker 3: out the door, catches the bus downtown and by the
Speaker 3: time he got there, both buildings had collapsed and he
Speaker 3: would have been working with one of them, and he's
Speaker 3: way up, like you know, he's on like one of
Speaker 3: the top floors, so he would have definitely died.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is insane.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't believe in the coincidences. Dude, That's
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There's just it's too you know,
Speaker 2: it's too perfect.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this getting back to the
Speaker 4: diddy thing.
Speaker 5: Right, So, now it's coming out that he was potentially
Speaker 5: and or con firmed a CIA informant. The realm of
Speaker 5: work that you were involved in. Now, I understand that
Speaker 5: you may not be able to answer certain questions.
Speaker 4: I know that government officials.
Speaker 5: Hired you and your your group to do certain things
Speaker 5: for them, right, but were you or any of your
Speaker 5: people ever divulging information to the CIA with a CIA
Speaker 5: also come into you for things as well, like to
Speaker 5: what realm did you work with three letter agencies?
Speaker 3: We would have some three letter agencies hire us, but
Speaker 3: they didn't hire me personally. They would hire the coven
Speaker 3: and then they decide who's going to do what. But
Speaker 3: if you'd have shown me an FBI agent, I don't
Speaker 3: know that I would have known they were FBI. We
Speaker 3: had people showing up all the time. We have Satanic
Speaker 3: offices around the country, and if somebody came there, we
Speaker 3: have nice looking people come there all the time. They're
Speaker 3: very nice, they're you know, a decent looking person. There
Speaker 3: was a day, this would have been in the nineties.
Speaker 3: I had I had a notice that there was a
Speaker 3: very important person coming. Don't give me a name, just
Speaker 3: very important person, and to go to my boss's office.
Speaker 3: And wait, my boss isn't there. So I go to
Speaker 3: the office and I wait, I'm sitting behind his desk,
Speaker 3: which is like that. You've got this very plush leather chair,
Speaker 3: and then and it looks like just one that's sitting
Speaker 3: on the ground, but if you kick your legs back,
Speaker 3: it'll like pop up like an ottoman, and you know,
Speaker 3: it leans back, and those all kinds of things. Imagine
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in like a five thousand dollars leather chair,
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting behind a desk that's it's got to
Speaker 3: be the most expensive desk I've ever seen. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there. I wanted to look in the drawers,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if I'm on camera or not,
Speaker 3: so I'm just sitting there. This guy looked at me,
Speaker 3: about me in his forties, opens the door and I
Speaker 3: start to stand up and I said, I think you're
Speaker 3: in the wrong room. He goes, no, I don't, I
Speaker 3: don't think so I think this is the right room,
Speaker 3: and so I stay. I stepped forward because I'm going
Speaker 3: to tell him, you know, you need to leave. I'm
Speaker 3: expecting somebody. And he closes the door behind him and
Speaker 3: takes one step towards me, and in that one step
Speaker 3: he covered about forty feet. Whoa, and he looks change.
Speaker 3: He goes from being in his forties to his fifties,
Speaker 3: to his sixties, back to his forties, fifties, sixties, maybe
Speaker 3: sometimes in his thirties, and his clothes kept changing. He's
Speaker 3: wearing like a one piece brown I don't know what
Speaker 3: it is. It goes from up eye to the ground.
Speaker 3: Then it changes. He's wearing a Henley and like a
Speaker 3: tan henley and black pants, and his belt is black
Speaker 3: and has silver accents all over it. Then that changes
Speaker 3: and he's wearing a brown suit, and then that changes,
Speaker 3: and he goes through about four different outfits, constantly changing
Speaker 3: every few seconds. His face is changing every few seconds.
Speaker 3: And he introduces himself. He's Satan, and he said that
Speaker 3: he's already visited one eye wizard today and he has
Speaker 3: to visit now. He's visiting me. After he leaves me,
Speaker 3: he's got eight more eye wizards. To visit and he's
Speaker 3: taking all of us out for ice cream today.
Speaker 2: Is ice cream code for something?
Speaker 3: No, it was actual ice cream. We walked out into
Speaker 3: the where the receptionist was and I told her we're
Speaker 3: going out for ice cream, and she goes, oh, bring
Speaker 3: me back something, and you know my friend and my
Speaker 3: new friend said, what do you want? She is you
Speaker 3: pick it out. I'm sure it'll be perfect. So we
Speaker 3: walk outside of the building, go down to the lobby,
Speaker 3: walk out the front door, and walk It's just a
Speaker 3: few blocks to Baskin Robins. As we're walking up to
Speaker 3: the Baskin Robins doors, people are coming out the door
Speaker 3: and they can't stop checking this guy out. Now I'm
Speaker 3: dressed as the High Wizard. No one's looking at me,
Speaker 3: They're all looking at him. There was a woman came out.
Speaker 3: She checked him out when she came out the door,
Speaker 3: and we walked in and she's still turning back looking
Speaker 3: at him. We walk inside. There's a gay guy behind
Speaker 3: the counter serving people and he openly flirts with Satan.
Speaker 3: I don't know what these people are seeing. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they're seeing the same thing I'm seeing, or
Speaker 3: they see something whatever. He's projecting they're seeing and this
Speaker 3: guy openly flirts with him, and we get our ice cream.
Speaker 3: He gets the secretary a banana split. Then he tells
Speaker 3: me that I'm doing a great job, and he's got
Speaker 3: to go. He's got eight other people to see and
Speaker 3: he walks out the front door, takes like two or
Speaker 3: three steps and he's gone. And then I walk a
Speaker 3: few blocks back to the office. I'm expecting her banana
Speaker 3: split to be just a melted mess when I get back,
Speaker 3: but it's still frozen. It's still just like it was
Speaker 3: just given to me. And I walked in and she goes,
Speaker 3: that's perfect, and you know, so she's eating a banana split.
Speaker 3: I think I got a strawberry Sunday or no, I
Speaker 3: got a what's that called a tin roof Sunday. It's
Speaker 3: Spanish peanuts on ice cream.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 3: So I got that, and then that was that, and
Speaker 3: that's like I had never seen Satan in person. My
Speaker 3: CEO gets possessed by Satan. So I mean, no, he existed,
Speaker 3: but I'd never seen it. He never came up to me. Right,
Speaker 3: there's a book. There's a book out called Miraculous Metal
Speaker 3: Pendent of Power by Christine Watkins, and she has that
Speaker 3: story in her book. She has about fifty pages is
Speaker 3: about me, but one of the pages has that story
Speaker 3: like the day Satan took me out for ice grin.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is so crazy, dude. So he's basically shape shifting.
Speaker 2: He's changing age. He's taking one step and making it
Speaker 2: into forty. He's not allowing the ice cream to melt
Speaker 2: like that is some magical kind of shit right there.
Speaker 2: Like So, actually, in the last episode we just did,
Speaker 2: I kind of went on a little rant about how
Speaker 2: I think Sarah Jessica Parker is a shape shifter, and
Speaker 2: being that you know she's from Sex in the City
Speaker 2: Sarah Jessica Parker and that show started in ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Now I know that that was around the time that
Speaker 2: you were in I don't know if she had anything
Speaker 2: to do you uh with you or you with her?
Speaker 2: But have you ever looked at Sarah Jessica Parker and
Speaker 2: thought that could be a shape shifter?
Speaker 3: She is not attractive.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would say he is not attractive personally, but
Speaker 2: she's handsome, wasn't.
Speaker 3: She married to Matthew brought her.
Speaker 2: Really that hurts me to know that because I like
Speaker 2: Matthew Broderick a lot. That's Fairrist fucking Bueller, dude.
Speaker 4: Ferris Bueller was married to horse Face.
Speaker 3: Did I have that? Do I have that wrong? Oh?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, Jonathan's on it.
Speaker 5: He's gonna find the source of that one, because we
Speaker 5: I don't know how. Matthew Roderck just got brought up
Speaker 5: like two episodes ago, actually, like just randomly.
Speaker 4: What what? What is even happening right now? Dudeh uh? Oh?
Speaker 2: Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick got married in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven and have welcome three children together.
Speaker 4: Oh man, are.
Speaker 3: They adopting them?
Speaker 4: That's the thing they might be.
Speaker 2: But baby, so as far as I know.
Speaker 5: Oh no, those kids are probably set for life, you know,
Speaker 5: to a list celebrity parents and all. And I hope
Speaker 5: that Matthew Rogerct's not a part of these elite cults
Speaker 5: and things.
Speaker 4: I hope he's a good soul at heart.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can you can be a good soul
Speaker 2: and you know love a transgender.
Speaker 3: Didn't know almost destroy his career by being in a
Speaker 3: movie where he played a gay guy. Did he that was?
Speaker 4: I know? Boys don't cry It was Johnny Depp.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Let me check that.
Speaker 4: Huh oh, huh oh.
Speaker 5: We're discovering new things here about our boy, the gadget,
Speaker 5: the Torch Song Trilogy.
Speaker 3: Port Song Trilogy. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's the name of the movie. A gay love and
Speaker 2: family story.
Speaker 5: It says, Okay, that's not something that came from that
Speaker 5: time frame very often.
Speaker 3: When that came out, being gay wasn't popular, right, and
Speaker 3: that almost killed his career. Suddenly he appears in this
Speaker 3: movie and nobody wants him in their movie now, I mean,
Speaker 3: and he was on the rise. You know, Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 3: That's hard to beat.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is after Fairs Bueller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, it says Matthew Broderick talks about
Speaker 2: having a big gay following. Makes sense. He was also in.
Speaker 4: The Cable Guy, got big gay dudes following him.
Speaker 2: Remember he was in Cable Guy. That's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite movies.
Speaker 4: Cable Guy.
Speaker 3: He was in the Villain. He was The Producers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like that movie, The Producers. That's right.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's two versions of it. He's in
Speaker 3: the remake.
Speaker 5: Well, shit, here, I'll show you a couple of things
Speaker 5: I know from Glory him and old Denzel played you
Speaker 5: know in that and killed the roles.
Speaker 4: I should say, well, that.
Speaker 2: Movie came out five damn, that's been out in a minute.
Speaker 2: The producer, the producers.
Speaker 3: Nathan Lane plays a man whore basically with women, and
Speaker 3: he sleeps with elderly women and they give him checks.
Speaker 3: And then Matthew Puck plays an accountant and he's sent
Speaker 3: there to audit Max Bielli stocks books and then he
Speaker 3: discovers how much money, you know, he spent like five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars at a Turkish path, so but he found
Speaker 3: that he asked him about it. And then he realizes
Speaker 3: when he's looking at the books that he could have
Speaker 3: raised any amount of money he wanted and just not reported.
Speaker 3: And you could make more money with a flop than
Speaker 3: with a hit.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Nathan Lane is suddenly like, you keep saying that, but
Speaker 3: you don't say how. And then they end up pairing
Speaker 3: up together and Max Bialistok has to sleep with a
Speaker 3: bunch of old women to get the musical financed. And
Speaker 3: they're looking for the worst musical, the worst play in history,
Speaker 3: something that will close on the first night, and they
Speaker 3: find it. This guy had writes a musical called Springtime
Speaker 3: for Hitler and it's like a love story to Hitler
Speaker 3: and Okay, in the remake, that's played by Will Ferrell.
Speaker 5: Shit, Okay, So I've seen the picture of Will Ferrell
Speaker 5: in like a Nazi uniform and I knew it was
Speaker 5: for a role or something that was from the producers.
Speaker 3: Okay, and it was very funny. And this is all
Speaker 3: directed or produced by mel Brooks.
Speaker 4: Mill Brooks. Oh yeah, he's a comedic genius.
Speaker 5: But I've heard a lot of people say he's dirty,
Speaker 5: and a lot of people say that he's like a
Speaker 5: part of the whole. They thought like Weinstein was bad. Yeah,
Speaker 5: well check out what mel Brooks was about.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. You know.
Speaker 3: The thing is about the world we live in, especially now,
Speaker 3: is that you could almost say anything bad about anybody
Speaker 3: and it's going to be true. It's almost like you
Speaker 3: can't be sued for anything now because there's so much
Speaker 3: stuff out there that if you look stuff up, you know,
Speaker 3: you'll find that there is a casting couch. There are
Speaker 3: small that are having sex with adults so they can
Speaker 3: be in a role in a TV show. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's documentaries on Netflix and YouTube and Hulu about young
Speaker 3: boys or young girls that were groomed by somebody while
Speaker 3: they were trying to star in a show. And now
Speaker 3: they've got you know, memories or sexual abuse in their past.
Speaker 3: And these people are, you know, revealing who it is
Speaker 3: that did this to them. And it's not a secret anymore,
Speaker 3: you know, and you can't be shocked anymore.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There are people that don't know about this stuff because
Speaker 3: they don't want to know. Yeah, and then people that
Speaker 3: watch shows like this, they go, holy crap, I had
Speaker 3: no idea this stuff really happened.
Speaker 2: Well, what about that story you told us about you
Speaker 2: know that, Uh, well, you have a few stories about
Speaker 2: Bohemian Grove, But whenever you were saying it, you mentioned
Speaker 2: how was it like some little girls were dressing up
Speaker 2: as boys or vice versa.
Speaker 3: Lalita boys, Lolita boys.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the shit goes deep, dude.
Speaker 3: The scandal looks like it's a senator who's in his
Speaker 3: sixties sleeping with a twelve year old boy, But when
Speaker 3: you look into it deeper, it's a senator that would
Speaker 3: never cheat on his wife. He might hire a male prostitute,
Speaker 3: but he's now having sex with a nineteen year old
Speaker 3: girl that he thinks as a twelve year old boy,
Speaker 3: like this is a twisted web.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And then.
Speaker 3: There's pictures and video taken of that. So at some
Speaker 3: point they might blackmail him with, well, we've got a
Speaker 3: picture of you having sex with this twelve year old boy,
Speaker 3: you know, And he's like, no, no, no, I know
Speaker 3: that was a girl. Can you prove it because it
Speaker 3: looks like a twelve year old boy to me.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Pictures worth a thousand words, right, you know, And I
Speaker 2: think that, you know, this might just me be how
Speaker 2: I kind of look at the world. I know that
Speaker 2: there are messed up people in the world, but I
Speaker 2: genuinely want to believe that most people at least have
Speaker 2: a decent soul to them.
Speaker 3: And I'd like to believe that too, But too many
Speaker 3: things have popped up that says they don't.
Speaker 4: You're to look at an example of this.
Speaker 5: Look at a Walmart parking lot and look at the
Speaker 5: grocery buggy little spot.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Do people put their grocery carts up where they're supposed
Speaker 5: to or do they just leave them anywhere in the
Speaker 5: parking lot.
Speaker 2: It depends how far away it is, what it depends
Speaker 2: how far away the fucking care or the cart holder is.
Speaker 4: Ah. Yes, and that seems to be the issue.
Speaker 5: Right, If people have to go out of their way
Speaker 5: to do the right thing, how many of them will
Speaker 5: actually do it? Now, there are some, there are some
Speaker 5: people out there that go out of their way to
Speaker 5: do the right thing because it is the right thing
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 4: There are far too many people who say fuck it
Speaker 4: and just like whatever, it's someone else's problem and they
Speaker 4: move on with their day. Now.
Speaker 5: I am not saying that you not putting your shopping
Speaker 5: carts back or they're supposed to go makes you a
Speaker 5: horrible satanist of a person. No, I am saying that
Speaker 5: that is a very small example. But think about that
Speaker 5: on a macro scale, you see what I'm saying, Like, realistically,
Speaker 5: when the chips are down, when no one's looking, when
Speaker 5: no one's gonna ever know about this ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 5: what will people actually do? And I'm afraid that too
Speaker 5: many people will choose the incorrect answer on that.
Speaker 3: I had to tell my kids one day that the
Speaker 3: good morals means doing the right thing, even if nobody
Speaker 3: sees you do it.
Speaker 2: Rightep integrity, tegrity.
Speaker 3: And they didn't. They couldn't grasp that. You know. It's like,
Speaker 3: if no one's there to see me do it, why
Speaker 3: would I do it? Because it's the right thing to do?
Speaker 3: Yep is because not only will you know you didn't
Speaker 3: do it, but God will know you didn't do it.
Speaker 3: Might from God.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing. You have to teach that to
Speaker 4: a child.
Speaker 5: Children don't inherently know to do the right thing when
Speaker 5: no one's looking. We have to teach them morality. We
Speaker 5: have to teach children to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: I was watching or listening to a podcast and it
Speaker 3: was done by either the director or the producer of
Speaker 3: the Sound of Freedom. So I'm listening to this and
Speaker 3: I ended up making my own podcast. I mean, I
Speaker 3: have a podcast with I have like three hundred podcasts
Speaker 3: up or something like that, and mine are anywhere from
Speaker 3: like one minute to fifty six minutes. Okay. I made
Speaker 3: this podcast called what the Hell? And it's what the
Speaker 3: Hell with a bunch of exclamation points and a bunch
Speaker 3: of question marks. And it had to do with this
Speaker 3: podcast that I heard, and it was the FBI made
Speaker 3: an app or they had an app made for them
Speaker 3: that searches the dark web and then it looks for
Speaker 3: the phrase. It looks for a particular phrase, and then
Speaker 3: everybody that has said that phrase, they gather that person's
Speaker 3: real name, IP address, email address, and their physical address.
Speaker 3: Now this is only the people that they were able
Speaker 3: to get all of that on, so you figure that's
Speaker 3: got to be a small number. And then they got
Speaker 3: together with all the local law enforcement agencies in those
Speaker 3: different states. It's only in the United States. So then
Speaker 3: they went to the judge and the law enforcement in
Speaker 3: that state and said, we have this person that searched
Speaker 3: the word or the phrase child rape, and we're going
Speaker 3: to look on their laptops, their tablets, their phones and
Speaker 3: see if they have images. If they don't have images,
Speaker 3: their name is going to go with local law enforcement,
Speaker 3: so they'll know that's a person of interest. If something
Speaker 3: else ever happens in the area of pedophilia in their state,
Speaker 3: and if they do have images, they're going to prison.
Speaker 3: So they looked up the term child rape and in
Speaker 3: the United States they arrested and put in prison eight
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people. Wow, WOA remember that. They say that
Speaker 3: when you turn on the light and you see one roach,
Speaker 3: there's ninety nine more that are hidden, right, so you
Speaker 3: caught eight hundred thousand. How many are there really and
Speaker 3: why is this in my country? Why does my country
Speaker 3: have eight hundred thousand pedophiles in prison? But that might
Speaker 3: be only one percent. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 5: Eight hundred thousand chomhs hit the prison yard at the
Speaker 5: same time. And to further that, if anybody's questioning if
Speaker 5: that really happened, there was so many of them that
Speaker 5: hit the prison yard at the same time that they
Speaker 5: actually formed a Chomo gang for protection. Currently, multiple prisons
Speaker 5: have child molester and pedophilic gangs for like there's power
Speaker 5: and numbers on the inside and all that, there's that
Speaker 5: many of them.
Speaker 4: That's not how it used to be used to be.
Speaker 5: When a chomo hit the yard, that was their ass
Speaker 5: and it was like there was honor among thieves that like, yo,
Speaker 5: you do whatever you want to be a criminal, don't
Speaker 5: mess with old people, don't mess with nobody's babies.
Speaker 4: That was the rules.
Speaker 5: And now there's so many of them they have a
Speaker 5: gang for protection.
Speaker 3: I said that the biggest stadium in the world is
Speaker 3: a soccer stadium. I think in Brazil it almost like
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty five thousand people. Yeah, so not
Speaker 3: even that stadium is big enough to hold the child
Speaker 3: molesters got charged with chiw ray. You know that looked
Speaker 3: up the word chow ray. Well, I said, Okay, I
Speaker 3: know that I'm not supposed to seek vengeance against these people.
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to kill them. But you could turn
Speaker 3: me loose in that stadium with a baseball bat. I
Speaker 3: won't kill them.
Speaker 4: Let me lose my two handed axe. It's dull, but
Speaker 4: I can almost assure that I would.
Speaker 2: I just put some dents in there at the bare minimum.
Speaker 5: Oh no, this will crack skulls. This will absolutely kill
Speaker 5: somebody with blunt force trauma. And brother, that was that
Speaker 5: old uh in the business of killing Nazis and business
Speaker 5: is booming, yo. I'm just saying, when every when every
Speaker 5: problem looks like a nail, you happen to have a hammer.
Speaker 4: It's good to be It's good to be a pro swinger.
Speaker 4: The fucking Hammer's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I personally don't understand why pedophiles are even in jail, Like,
Speaker 2: why are we spending tax money on them? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Just fucking take them out to the woodshed.
Speaker 2: There's no need. You can't, in my opinion, you can't
Speaker 2: rehabilitate that that is unrehabilitatable.
Speaker 3: There's an island. I'm trying to think which state it's near.
Speaker 3: I saw a documentary on it. There's an island that
Speaker 3: has everything on it you need as grocery stores, theaters, houses,
Speaker 3: and whenever pedophiles come out of prison in this state,
Speaker 3: that's where they go because they know they can't be rehabilitated,
Speaker 3: but they're out of prison. You can't put them back
Speaker 3: in prison, but you can put them on the island because.
Speaker 5: It's like a whole city halfway house type situation quote
Speaker 5: unquote reality.
Speaker 4: It's just where they stick them.
Speaker 5: No children are allowed there and they're not allowed to
Speaker 5: leave kind.
Speaker 3: Of thing, right, So I mean, in essence, it's like
Speaker 3: they're still in prison, but you know, we're keeping children
Speaker 3: safe and we're keeping I'm safe as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about you're talking about McNeil Island off
Speaker 2: of Washington State.
Speaker 3: Sounds right.
Speaker 2: It says the only residents, the only residents are two
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen dangerous sex offenders. The only residents there
Speaker 2: are sex offenders.
Speaker 5: So like you're saying, when the purge if and when
Speaker 5: that ever takes off, like there's one spot where we
Speaker 5: could really just go and have fun, guilt free.
Speaker 2: Like okay, yeah, it says. A small island in the
Speaker 2: state of Washington houses a group of unlikely residents. They
Speaker 2: are all men the state considers its most dangerous offenders.
Speaker 2: McNeil Island, nestled in Pugit Sound Pougin Sound. Puget Sound,
Speaker 2: is unpopulated except for the two hundred and fourteen people
Speaker 2: who live at the Special Commitment Center, a facility for
Speaker 2: former prison inmates. All men have served their sentence, and
Speaker 2: yet due to a controversial legal mandate, they remained confined indefinitely.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 5: So I stand by my statement, if and when the
Speaker 5: time comes there the people in Washington that are about
Speaker 5: the truth will have some fun.
Speaker 4: That's legit.
Speaker 5: Okay, let me ask y'all. They didn't want easy location.
Speaker 2: Let me ask y'all. Though, I mean, both of you,
Speaker 2: being Christians, can somebody like that be saved?
Speaker 3: I think they can be saved. God knows your heart, right,
Speaker 3: and God knows that even good men sin, right, and.
Speaker 2: I guess technically there is no sin greater than any
Speaker 2: other sin.
Speaker 3: According to the Bible, right, Well, there is an unforgivable sin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's as far as this goes.
Speaker 5: Nobody is beyond salvation as far as this conversation goes.
Speaker 4: Yes, However, I'm not God, I'm not the Lord. I
Speaker 4: be Jacob, And you know.
Speaker 5: I'm I am okay with standing before God and saying that, yes,
Speaker 5: certain people were too dangerous to allow to draw free breath.
Speaker 5: And you know, I know that your judgment is overall key.
Speaker 5: I was just trying to make that judgment come at
Speaker 5: a more rapid pace and I'm good with that. You know,
Speaker 5: I'll be good judge according to that as well. But
Speaker 5: you know, I also believe that the God that I
Speaker 5: would worship, you know, especially for a child assault for children,
Speaker 5: I feel like the God I worships got that one
Speaker 5: locked down anyway, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 5: think they're like people anymore. It's like animals. It's not murder,
Speaker 5: it's killing. It's very different.
Speaker 3: It was a child molester that was in prison with
Speaker 3: another prisoner and he started bragging about all the children
Speaker 3: that he'd hurt and what he'd done to them. Yes,
Speaker 3: And eventually the guy that he was telling killed him. Yes,
Speaker 3: they said, don't you feel bad that you judged that man?
Speaker 3: He goes, I didn't judge him. I hastened his ticket
Speaker 3: so he could get judged.
Speaker 4: Huh. I'm sorry. Some people are not worth the bullet.
Speaker 5: But with these two fucking hands though, I got a
Speaker 5: few minutes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's just me. That's that's just me, you know, Zachary I.
Speaker 2: I love having you on, dude, because it just goes
Speaker 2: to show that, you know, somebody that was even in
Speaker 2: your line of work, can really turn their life around.
Speaker 2: And come and share the story if you don't mind.
Speaker 2: For any of those who haven't been around with us
Speaker 2: for very long, would you mind telling us the story
Speaker 2: about how you came to be a Catholic?
Speaker 3: Mm core, I had been. I was a GM, a
Speaker 3: general manager at a piercing Pagoda. So it's a jewelry
Speaker 3: store in the mall. And my original piercing Pagoda was
Speaker 3: an inline store. This now that I worked at a Kiosk.
Speaker 3: It was like the biggest Kiosk in the mall. And
Speaker 3: this woman comes up to buy a pair of gold
Speaker 3: hoop bearings and I present her the pair and she's
Speaker 3: I'm about to close the deal, and then she says,
Speaker 3: you know, actually, i'm shopping with my daughter, and when
Speaker 3: i'm done, i'll come back and I'll buy these. And
Speaker 3: I've been a manager for a while I know that
Speaker 3: when women say that, what they mean is I'm going
Speaker 3: to find it cheaper somebolace else. But she had an
Speaker 3: honest face, and I thought she's really going to come back.
Speaker 3: And sure enough, three hours later, she comes back and
Speaker 3: she says she's ready to get them. So I get out,
Speaker 3: I get the earrings out, and I hand them to her.
Speaker 3: She gives me the money. We do that, the receipt prints,
Speaker 3: and I come up to her with the receipt and
Speaker 3: I say, if you call the eight hundred number on
Speaker 3: this receipt and take a survey, you might win a
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. And she goes, that's great, I've got something
Speaker 3: for you too, And I'm thinking, oh no, I know
Speaker 3: she's going to pull out a Jack Shake pamphlet and
Speaker 3: I'll promise that I'll read it, but then I'll throw
Speaker 3: it away. I can't go to God, I can't drop
Speaker 3: to my knees. I can't beg for forgiveness. I sold
Speaker 3: my soul to the devil. I was thirteen, so these
Speaker 3: aren't options I have. But you know, it's a fun
Speaker 3: little it's a little comic book, and I'll promise I'll
Speaker 3: read it. But instead she pulls out this soul gold colored,
Speaker 3: cheap piece of tin, like if you could make this
Speaker 3: out of a coke can. It's so cheap you could
Speaker 3: probably make a thousand of them out of a cocin.
Speaker 3: You could hold this up to the light and see
Speaker 3: the light through it. It was that then, and you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is strange. No one's ever and
Speaker 3: in me gold, And she says the weirdest thing I've
Speaker 3: ever heard. Now, remember that I partied with rock stars.
Speaker 3: If you give somebody that can write songs, lyrics and
Speaker 3: music and give them unlimited booze and drugs, they will
Speaker 3: write some strange stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: My example is pretty much just turn on any top
Speaker 3: forty station and listen to the lyrics and Katie Perrys
Speaker 3: singing about I kissed girl? So what why is that
Speaker 3: worth of a song? Or the number one song of
Speaker 3: either ninety nine or ninety eight was bowa Toba like
Speaker 3: kid rock whose top song that he ever came up
Speaker 3: with has this as a chorus bow to ba to
Speaker 3: dang to dang, diggy diggy up jumps the boogie. It's like,
Speaker 3: that's the best you got. It took you twenty four
Speaker 3: years to come out with a song, and that was it,
Speaker 3: you know. And then people at my audience they laughed,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, don't laugh. We made that song number
Speaker 3: one that year. We all say it with the number
Speaker 3: one video on MTV, you know. So what this woman
Speaker 3: said to me was weirder than bowa toba the dang
Speaker 3: to dang. She said, the blessed Mother is calling you
Speaker 3: into your army. And I'm thinking, blessed Mother isis Gaya?
Speaker 3: I don't know who this is. I grew up Baptist.
Speaker 3: We don't have any names for the blessed Mother. We
Speaker 3: have Mary. What did Mary do? She gave birth Jesus?
Speaker 3: What else did you do? Nothing? Because all she did
Speaker 3: woul give birth to Jesus. So apparently she did do
Speaker 3: a couple of other things, but I didn't know it then.
Speaker 3: And she says it's very powerful. Bostin's don't bless anything.
Speaker 3: So this woman represents some female deity cult. I'm not
Speaker 3: interested because so many cults are connected, and you don't
Speaker 3: always know, and I don't want to join her cult
Speaker 3: and then find out it's connected to the World Church
Speaker 3: of Satan. So I just kind of tune her out
Speaker 3: and go to my happy place. And she's still talking away,
Speaker 3: talking away. I'm not listening to anything, and after a
Speaker 3: little bit, I'm thinking, how do they all find me?
Speaker 3: There has to be a neon sign above my head
Speaker 3: points down to me and it says crazy people come here,
Speaker 3: and only crazy people can see it, because normal people
Speaker 3: don't come up to me, only the crazy ones. And
Speaker 3: I tune her back in and she says again, it's
Speaker 3: very powerful. M no, no, no. I was the high Wizard,
Speaker 3: now you're the high Wizard. It's for life. So I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: at that time, I'm still the high Wizard, and you're
Speaker 3: trying to tell me that this blessed miraculous metal has
Speaker 3: some kind of power to it. There's no power, mystique
Speaker 3: to this. This can't touch me. I'm the high Wizard.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take it in my hand, and she's
Speaker 3: all giddy because I'm willing to take it. But my
Speaker 3: plan is I'm either going to toss it on my
Speaker 3: floor or slam it on my counter. I'm an tell
Speaker 3: rich worthless that it has no power, nothing to it.
Speaker 3: And if she gets offended, I don't care. And if
Speaker 3: she wants to return the gold and get her money back,
Speaker 3: I don't care. And if she wants my manager's phone number,
Speaker 3: which is like the regional vice president, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I'll give her the number and you can call, because
Speaker 3: I know my regional vice president's gonna tell me later.
Speaker 3: She didn't like your tie, she didn't like your clothes,
Speaker 3: she didn't like your haircut, she didn't like your cologne.
Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with the way you treated her.
Speaker 3: She just didn't like something about you. So I know
Speaker 3: that I can say whatever I want. Even if she
Speaker 3: quotes me, my boss is not going to believe that
Speaker 3: I said this right. So she drops in my hand.
Speaker 3: I clinched my fist around it. Except when I clenched
Speaker 3: my fist around it, my mall and my store completely disappeared.
Speaker 3: I'm standing in a darkened boy. There is nobody there
Speaker 3: about me. This woman is talking to me, but I
Speaker 3: can't see her. And she says that I did a
Speaker 3: magic spell last night and that's of the devil, and
Speaker 3: I've split over one hundred churches, and that's of the devil.
Speaker 3: And I've done over a hundred abortions, and that's of
Speaker 3: the devil. And she says about eight or nine other
Speaker 3: sins and everything ends with and that's of the devil. Now,
Speaker 3: when I first got here, I wanted to hit her
Speaker 3: with an energy burst, to knock her back and figure
Speaker 3: out how to get out of this. But now that
Speaker 3: she knows all this stuff as the high Wizard, I
Speaker 3: could not have handed somebody a worthless gold colored piece
Speaker 3: of tin, transport both of us to a darkened void
Speaker 3: and know all of their sins. Her magic is stronger
Speaker 3: than my magic. I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 3: was wanting to let go of the medal. But what
Speaker 3: happens if I just fall through this darken void and
Speaker 3: don't find my way back to my store, don't find
Speaker 3: my way back to the mall. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do. And she says again, the Blessed Mother has
Speaker 3: called you into her army, And instantly, like a grace
Speaker 3: from God, I knew that was And the Blessed Mother
Speaker 3: was the Mother of God, which is a very strange
Speaker 3: revelation for a former Baptist. We would rather shoot ourselves
Speaker 3: in the face of a shotgun, than say, Mother of God.
Speaker 3: And when I realized it was the Mother of God,
Speaker 3: Mary showed up. She smiled at me. It was a
Speaker 3: smile I knew I didn't deserve. I was acutely aware
Speaker 3: of my one hundred and forty six assisted abortions. And
Speaker 3: Mary showed up. She took me by the hand, and
Speaker 3: she turned me around. Divine mercy. Jesus is standing behind me.
Speaker 3: I don't know what divine mercy is. Just now I
Speaker 3: got these rays of light going under me and over
Speaker 3: me and through me. And I knew in that instant
Speaker 3: that I did not sell my soul to the devil.
Speaker 3: When I was thirteen, I knew that Jesus Christ was
Speaker 3: my Lord and savior. I knew that all my magic,
Speaker 3: my cult, my New Age, and my Satanism was false.
Speaker 3: And I knew everything Catholic was truth. And the Blessed
Speaker 3: Mother told me that my job was to help her
Speaker 3: int abortion. And I opened my hand. Back in my store,
Speaker 3: back in my mall. This woman is still talking to me.
Speaker 3: She tells me that she goes to Saint Raphael Catholic,
Speaker 3: Saint franc Is Xavivier, Catholic Church, and that she works
Speaker 3: for Saint Raphael Healthing Oil Ministry, and that Father Joe
Speaker 3: Whalen is the priest she's under and he does. He's
Speaker 3: so busy he doesn't even have time to talk to her.
Speaker 3: While she's talking to me, her cell phone rings. She
Speaker 3: looks at you goes, this is father Joe. I've got
Speaker 3: to take it. Yeah, you just explain that, go ahead,
Speaker 3: So she takes the call. At that time, Father Joe
Speaker 3: was in his seventies and he was starting to go death.
Speaker 3: So he talked like everybody was going death. And so
Speaker 3: when she got the phone call, I could hear what
Speaker 3: he was saying. And she goes, hello, father Joe, what
Speaker 3: can I help you with? Can you have the phone
Speaker 3: to the young man you're talking to? She's like, sure,
Speaker 3: Father Joe. So she has me the phone. I'm shaking
Speaker 3: like Ozzy Osbourne. I'm like, hello, welcome to the faith,
Speaker 3: and the phone back to Marianne. I hand the phone
Speaker 3: back to Marianne. He hangs up on her. We get
Speaker 3: two more phone calls like that. Her daughter comes up
Speaker 3: to the counter. She says, can you bring this man
Speaker 3: one of each other? Everything? So she goes out we
Speaker 3: get two more phone calls and her daughter comes up
Speaker 3: with a paper grocery bag filled with pamphlets white a
Speaker 3: Catholic to do this or believe that Catholic Bible and
Speaker 3: like one hundred and twenty five Lighthouse Catholic media discs.
Speaker 4: They just had that on standby.
Speaker 3: Did that was in her truck. Wow. So her daughter
Speaker 3: went out, got it and brought it back in for me.
Speaker 3: And then I go home at the end of the
Speaker 3: day and I got the addressed for the church she
Speaker 3: goes to, and I walked in. My wife had been.
Speaker 3: She's my ex wife. Now my wife had been this
Speaker 3: followship Jehovah's witness. Now that makes me want to ask
Speaker 3: the question, how bad of a cult member do you
Speaker 3: have to be to be kicked out of a cult?
Speaker 4: I think you just don't pay your dues, right.
Speaker 3: I think there was more to it than that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I know a few former job's witnessed that pretty much
Speaker 5: just stopped going to meetings and stop paying their dues.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're still considered a part of
Speaker 5: the faith or not. I don't know what you have
Speaker 5: to do to get excommunicated.
Speaker 4: Who knows. She was.
Speaker 3: Making out with a lot of people that she wasn't
Speaker 3: allowed to make out with, including a guy that was
Speaker 3: married and had children, and she would go over there
Speaker 3: to babysit the children and then he would make out
Speaker 3: with her. Oh twelve or thirteen years old. But she
Speaker 3: liked doing stuff like that, so she would go to
Speaker 3: other people's places as well and move in with them.
Speaker 3: But they're an adult and she's not.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then when she become an adult, she was still
Speaker 3: doing that kind of stuff and she got this fellowship
Speaker 3: from Joba's Witnesses. So in that respect, I mean it's
Speaker 3: a cult, but they were looking out for her best interests.
Speaker 3: You know, you avoid pedophiles. But then in the Jehoah's
Speaker 3: Witness church, they have rules in their church to protect
Speaker 3: the pedophiles. Yeah, like if you're going to molest a
Speaker 3: child and there's not another witness for it, you're the
Speaker 3: child being molested. If you don't have a friend that
Speaker 3: was there with you that also got molested, then you
Speaker 3: can't make a report to anybody. Yeah, you don't have
Speaker 3: to go to the police. No going to the police.
Speaker 3: And if you don't have a child witness for you,
Speaker 3: then You're just getting molested all day long, every day,
Speaker 3: and you're not getting any help.
Speaker 5: And then even if you try to go to your
Speaker 5: parents about it, what are you going to do? Have
Speaker 5: them go against their entire community.
Speaker 3: Right and the entire church. And everybody knows that, you know,
Speaker 3: if you tell anybody something like that, it's spreads like
Speaker 3: wildfire throughout the church. But nobody's found guilty, found guilty
Speaker 3: of snitching or trying to lie about somebody that they
Speaker 3: know didn't do that.
Speaker 4: Right. Man, it's horrible these kids get wrapped up in
Speaker 4: that shit.
Speaker 3: So when I got home, I walked in the door
Speaker 3: and my ex wife was doing the dishes. I was like, hey, honey,
Speaker 3: guess what. I'm Katholic now. Man. She was mad, you know.
Speaker 3: But the next day, the next day she went with
Speaker 3: me to daily Mass. I got invited to go, and
Speaker 3: I thought, I want to see what all this is about.
Speaker 3: And I had been to two black masses when I
Speaker 3: was a Satanist, and I didn't realize that a black
Speaker 3: mass was a mockery of a Catholic mass. I thought
Speaker 3: that it was just a mockery of a church service,
Speaker 3: you know, And then when I saw it and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I went to an actual Catholic Mass for
Speaker 3: the first time. Then suddenly the Black Mass made sense
Speaker 3: because it didn't look like any Baptist service I've ever
Speaker 3: been to understand what was happening. And then when I
Speaker 3: went to an actual mass, I was like, oh, dawn
Speaker 3: rises over marblehead. I get it now, you know. It's
Speaker 3: like all right, I didn't know. And like in the
Speaker 3: Black Mass, instead of an altar, they have a naked
Speaker 3: prostitute and they pray that hail Mary's backwards. They pray
Speaker 3: rosary complete Rosary backwards.
Speaker 4: You know, they have uptake of the Bread of life
Speaker 4: instead of the wafers.
Speaker 5: And that's made Alistair Crowley's matter of facts when they
Speaker 5: made that recipe, and it isn't it a semen? And
Speaker 5: help me out, Johnath that we talked about that the
Speaker 5: Bread of life.
Speaker 3: Well it's in the Satanic Church. They were using bloody
Speaker 3: goat meat. Oh, goat meat on your tongue, and Jesus
Speaker 3: is the Lamb of God, so the goat would be satan. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're taking blood you goat meat on the tongue.
Speaker 3: But they had I'm watching it like an audience member,
Speaker 3: so I'm not participating in the in the black mass.
Speaker 3: And in the end they pull out will look like
Speaker 3: I'm anella wafer. Yeah, what's that? And he says some
Speaker 3: religions believe that's God. And I was like, I have
Speaker 3: anello wafers tastes good, but saying God is a bit
Speaker 3: of a stretch, you know. But I knew in the
Speaker 3: Baptist Church, every three months we did to rememberance ceremony
Speaker 3: with unleavened bread that tastes terrible and a thumble of
Speaker 3: grape juice. So you know, here it is. They bring
Speaker 3: out this thing. Some guy drops an elbow on it,
Speaker 3: somebody drop kicked it on in it, somebody flipped it off,
Speaker 3: somebody threw it. This woman took it, lifted up her
Speaker 3: robe she's naked underneath it, and inserts it into her
Speaker 3: vagina and then pulls it out and was it in
Speaker 3: the fire, you know, And I'm killing I'm so confused,
Speaker 3: like why are you doing this to a piece of bread,
Speaker 3: to a little wafer? That doesn't make any sense? And
Speaker 3: I was. And then but then when I was at
Speaker 3: the Catholic Mass, and I couldn't go up for the
Speaker 3: Eucharus because I'm not Catholic, and I'd asked him. At
Speaker 3: the consecration of the of the Host, I saw Jesus
Speaker 3: upon the altar, and I asked my wife, I said,
Speaker 3: do you see that?
Speaker 4: She was what?
Speaker 3: I said, that man up there on the stage, jes
Speaker 3: As the priest. I said, no, the other guy. I
Speaker 3: don't see another guy. I said, you don't see it
Speaker 3: because you're not Catholic. I thought I was already a Catholic.
Speaker 3: I thought that everybody in that room, everybody in that church,
Speaker 3: was seeing what I was seeing. That. This is the
Speaker 3: best kept secret for me of all time. Had I
Speaker 3: known as a child that Jesus the body, blood, soul
Speaker 3: in divinity, while Lord Jesus Christ was legitimately in the
Speaker 3: Catholic church, you couldn't have drugged me out. And no,
Speaker 3: I'm not leaving. Ask Jesus right there. I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: But yeah, nobody ever told me that. Even when I
Speaker 3: was an adult, nobody ever told me that. As I said,
Speaker 3: the only story I had about Catholics is that my
Speaker 3: dad said they were all going to be in hell
Speaker 3: one day. You know, they're all going to hell. So
Speaker 3: they all go to hell. Then, obviously, it's not a
Speaker 3: Christian church. But then I see Jesus there and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's God. So I started going. I found out that
Speaker 3: there was a place called Perpetual Adoration where you can
Speaker 3: go see God anytime you want. And I'd like, is
Speaker 3: there like a sign up sheet for that? There's a
Speaker 3: line to get into see Elvis and he's been dead
Speaker 3: over forty.
Speaker 4: Years, right, you know?
Speaker 3: And I went and saw Pink Floyd multiple times. One
Speaker 3: of the times it took all day to get into
Speaker 3: the stadium. They played for about three hours and then
Speaker 3: it took all night for everybody to leave. You know,
Speaker 3: some people spend the night in the barden lot because
Speaker 3: they couldn't leave. Yeah, obviously seeing God is a bigger
Speaker 3: deal than Bink Floyd. So I thought there'd be a
Speaker 3: sign up sheet and maybe in like three or four
Speaker 3: years they'll contact you and say your four hour block
Speaker 3: of time just opened up. If you don't make it
Speaker 3: this time, you can't go for another ten years. And
Speaker 3: they're like, no, no, no, you just go. There's no way.
Speaker 3: So me and my ex wife went. Shock number one.
Speaker 3: We're the only other car in the parking lot. Shock
Speaker 3: number two. There's no line to get in shock number three.
Speaker 3: We opened the door of the chapel. It's me, my
Speaker 3: ex wife, some woman, and Jesus. This woman looks up
Speaker 3: like a deer in the headlights and packs her stuff
Speaker 3: as fast as she can go. If this was an
Speaker 3: Olympic event. She got gold said you can't leave till
Speaker 3: someone else comes in, and bam she's out the door.
Speaker 4: And that's the constant adoration.
Speaker 3: Why would I leave the room. I'm in a room
Speaker 3: with God. I don't want to leave. I'm there anywhere
Speaker 3: from thirty minutes a time at a time to eighteen hours.
Speaker 3: It is the most comfortable sleep I've ever had. I
Speaker 3: accidentally fall asleep there and it was just an incredible place.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't understand. How is it that there's one
Speaker 3: point three billion Catholics and we're not all adoring Jesus.
Speaker 3: We're not all here, And when you're like the diocese
Speaker 3: I live in now has like one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: five adoration chapels and you can go anytime you want,
Speaker 3: and they're never full. We have I don't know how
Speaker 3: many people. We've got like four hundred thousand people that
Speaker 3: live in Wichita. Yeah, one hundred thousand people. I don't
Speaker 3: know what percentage of that would be Catholic, but you'd
Speaker 3: think that all the adoration chapels would be full all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 5: I live in Louisiana, a predominantly Catholic state, and I
Speaker 5: can tell you the adoration chapels are empty here too.
Speaker 5: It's I hear you them, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I know. Oh the thing, I looked it up. It's
Speaker 4: called the Cake of Light. Excuse me.
Speaker 5: That was the thing that Alistair Crowley made. It was
Speaker 5: using Gnostic masses and Thelemic masses, and it was his
Speaker 5: own perversion of.
Speaker 4: The Holy Sacrament. Of course it was, yeah, and it's made.
Speaker 5: It would seem in in minstrual blood and all of
Speaker 5: this stuff, because it's supposed to be the bread and
Speaker 5: the wine, so to speak, in one, which is why
Speaker 5: they have the body and the blood both represented. It's
Speaker 5: it's Alistair Crowley was kind of the most disgusting person,
Speaker 5: you know, for the sole purpose of being the most
Speaker 5: disgusting person.
Speaker 4: And perverting the true word in the true mass.
Speaker 3: There's a story that I heard about Alistair Crowley back
Speaker 3: in the probably the nineties, and i've since then now
Speaker 3: that we have laptops and the internet. I've looked it
Speaker 3: up and I can't find it anywhere. But it says
Speaker 3: that he went to some foreign country, a different foreign
Speaker 3: country than most of them, and he invited a bunch
Speaker 3: of dinner guests over and then he introduced them to
Speaker 3: like the seven year old little boy, and then he
Speaker 3: raped the little boy and then murdered him in front
Speaker 3: of everybody, and then cooked him and served him up
Speaker 3: to everybody.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: And then when that happened, people told on it, you know,
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, no, this happened. That country did
Speaker 3: not have any laws against sonomizing a young boy and
Speaker 3: murdering him and then cannibalizing him because I guess they
Speaker 3: thought no one would ever do these things, right, They
Speaker 3: know Alistair was going to visit their country. And then
Speaker 3: so what they did is they didn't have They couldn't
Speaker 3: put him in prison for committing a crime that's not
Speaker 3: on the books. They kicked him out of their country.
Speaker 3: That might be the route you have to look at
Speaker 3: to see what country that was. Because he was kicked
Speaker 3: out of the country and banned from being able to
Speaker 3: come back to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you hear about his uh It's it's
Speaker 5: not like he's the only one that was doing things
Speaker 5: like that. It's just he's the one we hear about, right,
Speaker 5: the groups that he came from, Oto being one of them.
Speaker 5: And then you see the split up with Madame Blovotsky
Speaker 5: and all the what was the big famous Irish author
Speaker 5: who was like a big dog with Oto and him
Speaker 5: and Alistair Crowley hated each other. They it all came
Speaker 5: down like the Battle of blythe Road, where like they
Speaker 5: tried throwing their hands and their incantations at each other
Speaker 5: and eventually they just roundhouse alis or Crowley and beat
Speaker 5: the shit out of them.
Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but.
Speaker 5: It's like these people have run in these circles and
Speaker 5: have been doing these rituals for a long time. It's
Speaker 5: just I think now the culture of the world is
Speaker 5: ready to finally talk about them openly, because if we
Speaker 5: would have talked about this in the seventies, we would
Speaker 5: have been ostracized and just shut down and like probably
Speaker 5: taken off air for such explicit content, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. If we would have brought this up even
Speaker 5: in the nineties, we would have got looked at crazy
Speaker 5: Bill Clinton getting dome in.
Speaker 4: The Oval office. What it's like the scandal of the decade.
Speaker 5: It's like, that's the worst that y'all could talk about
Speaker 5: in the nineties. Like child sex slavery has been around
Speaker 5: for decades, but like oh, Monica Lewinsky, you.
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying. So I feel like these have
Speaker 4: been going on for centuries, but it's only now that finally,
Speaker 4: the documentary, the stories, all these things are coming up
Speaker 4: and we are able to talk about it to an
Speaker 4: audience that's ready to hear it, you know, right.
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons, and this is sad
Speaker 3: on society, but the reason that we're ready to hear
Speaker 3: it now is that we've heard the worst that we have, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now we're ready for something worse.
Speaker 4: It's that desensitization.
Speaker 5: So when the p Diddy thing comes out, nobody was
Speaker 5: shocked about all of these celebrities having some sort of
Speaker 5: tie to some sort of whatever.
Speaker 4: They were just shocked that Diddy was the guy.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's funny too. I mean, did you watch
Speaker 3: the r Kelly documentaries?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't. I heard about them, and I already kind
Speaker 4: of knew what he was about.
Speaker 5: So, like when these claims came out about people watching
Speaker 5: it and they're like.
Speaker 4: He did this, he did this, I'm like, yeah, that
Speaker 4: that checks out. I totally believe that.
Speaker 3: It was like the prettiest women you've ever seen accusing
Speaker 3: him of stuff. Yeah, and there was a guy that
Speaker 3: was like his producer or somebody walked into the room
Speaker 3: and saw him. This is the story that stuck with me.
Speaker 3: That he had a little girl. Oh I don't know
Speaker 3: what age that is, but it was a little girl,
Speaker 3: not a woman, and his hand was completely upper But.
Speaker 4: I believe that he was.
Speaker 3: Standing there R Kelly's hand oper butt.
Speaker 5: And it's like the video of him hooking up with
Speaker 5: that sixteen year old and like eighteen times saying that
Speaker 5: she was sixteen, and like was mentioning it in the
Speaker 5: video and it's like him peeing on these fourteen year
Speaker 5: old girls and all that's been confirmed. So when you
Speaker 5: hear that one, it's like, sure, absolutely he was doing that.
Speaker 3: Too, which like there's did you ever watch the cartoon
Speaker 3: The Boondocks?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh come on now, I love that show
Speaker 5: and that whole episode about R Kelly. Yeah, confirmed, because
Speaker 5: it didn't matter what he did people still bought him music?
Speaker 3: Right? Well, the thing is I listened to that episode
Speaker 3: with director's commentary and they said that when they shot
Speaker 3: that video, they were looking at what would be the
Speaker 3: most outrageous thing for us to put on this show,
Speaker 3: Like what would be crazy? And somebody brought up how
Speaker 3: about r Kelly peeing on a teenage girl? And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's rite let's wipe right from that. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: it hadn't been confirmed yet, no one was talking about
Speaker 3: it yet. Yeah, we just made up something and put
Speaker 3: it on the screen and thought this was hilarious. And
Speaker 3: then it comes out did hepeede on a fourteen year
Speaker 3: old girl? And we're like, well, we called it first
Speaker 3: and we would just make it a bup.
Speaker 4: But were they just making something up?
Speaker 5: Quote unquote because you look at the producers and you
Speaker 5: look at who was the voice actors in this, and
Speaker 5: it's like these people were not nobody's They weren't no
Speaker 5: names in the industry. These were big names. I mean
Speaker 5: even Kat Williams had a pimp names back in the show.
Speaker 5: So I mean it's like, a, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite character. Agreed, I'm a pimp named Slickback. Slickback,
Speaker 3: I got it, no, say women, now.
Speaker 5: That's right, God, And that was the character that led
Speaker 5: to him making money Mike. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: for uh, was it Friday after next? Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 5: sure which the character was first, if it was Slickback
Speaker 5: or if it was money Mike, but I know that
Speaker 5: he referenced both to like make it that thing. That
Speaker 5: image of a quote unquote caricature of a pimp was
Speaker 5: completely Cat Williams's imagination. So it's so, yeah, the Boondogs.
Speaker 5: Did they make it up quote unquote one of those
Speaker 5: Simpson type situations where oops, we accidentally called it? Or
Speaker 5: did they know something that they were trying to let
Speaker 5: people know a little sneak peak about.
Speaker 2: They might have the mad groaning crystal Ball for all
Speaker 2: we know, dude, And it's.
Speaker 3: Runnable what the Simpsons has done though, agreed. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's two coincidental.
Speaker 4: And wasn't their entire board like all ivy League graduates
Speaker 4: and shit.
Speaker 2: Too, I don't they might have that groaning in them.
Speaker 4: I thought all of them had graduated from.
Speaker 5: Like super elite schools, and it was weird that all
Speaker 5: of them were comedy writers.
Speaker 4: For this show.
Speaker 5: But then they kept getting things right and it was
Speaker 5: it kept getting funnier, so people just let it ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever you know, you kind of run in certain circles,
Speaker 2: you might hear certain whispers of certain stories, and you know,
Speaker 2: things just start adding up. It's weird how that works.
Speaker 2: But look, Zacher, we could talk to you all day.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 2: I know that you got the stories for literal days
Speaker 2: and so you know, we just want to say we
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming to hang out with us today, especially
Speaker 2: you know, talking about like this P Diddy kind of
Speaker 2: stuff and kind of you know, relating it with maybe
Speaker 2: some of the things that you've seen or that you've done,
Speaker 2: or that you've heard or whatever, like it's all this
Speaker 2: is real life, dude, Like this is this is the
Speaker 2: craziest thing that It's not just something that's on TV.
Speaker 2: It's not something that you scroll and it's just you know,
Speaker 2: you found it on Instagram or Facebook. Like this is
Speaker 2: a real shit that's going on. So it's it's good
Speaker 2: that we have you to you know, kind of bounce
Speaker 2: a lot of this kind of stuff on relate stories
Speaker 2: and we appreciate you man coming on.
Speaker 3: Thanks for inviting me again absolutely, brother, Well in the
Speaker 3: future please do.
Speaker 2: You already know that's coming?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 2: But look, if you would, could you tell all of
Speaker 2: our listeners we call them the cult members. Could you
Speaker 2: tell them where they can find you?
Speaker 3: Sure, all Saints Ministry dot org. And then I also
Speaker 3: have a phone number that I give out on my
Speaker 3: podcasts and everywhere. So it's eight oh two five seven
Speaker 3: eight six five five four. My meali address is Mystic
Speaker 3: for God at My podcast is on Spotify, and you
Speaker 3: want to look up All Saints Ministry and then a
Speaker 3: picture of the front and back of a miraculous metal
Speaker 3: and two candles. I've got a YouTube channel. Most of
Speaker 3: the stuff you can find if you go to All
Speaker 3: Saintsministry dot org. And then I have the all the
Speaker 3: links in the left side of the banner.
Speaker 2: All right, the awesome man. Yeah, we'll definitely do it again, Jacob.
Speaker 2: Can we get a knife up in heredeed?
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