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there's Weeping, Whaling and national teeth.

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Speaker 4: Am.

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Speaker 3: I disappointed that b w A is not in the

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colleg football playoff. Yes, but I had already set myself

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up over the last six weeks for the feelings that

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I felt yesterday and after I felt it on Saturday,

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I'm like, look like, yeah, is it fair. No, it's

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not fair. It's not fair. And when has college football

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ever been fair? Some people will think, hey, there was

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a time, there's a place, there was an era in

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which college football was fair. No, it's never been fair.

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The college football, catball, the collegeootball, Wiligopoli, the monopoly. As

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soon as TV became a portion oka of cosmotball. Even

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prior to that, the IVY leagues were cheating with bagman

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in rural and suburban areas for a long time just

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so they could beat their fellow IVY League schools. They've

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been paying for plays for a long time. They've been

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figuring out ways to cheats. They're always going to try

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to circumvent the rules and win in a competitive environment.

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Football is still the best sport in the world. In

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my opinion, it's the most altruistic. It's the it's where

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like you can't manipulate it as much on the field,

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you just can't. The best team typically wins in college football.

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In the NFL, you can't manipulate. And some people say

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in the NFL that, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs

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are bought and paid for all those things, and you

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know Ron's going to chime in here real quick, but

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you know what I mean, Like, it is very hard

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to manipulate twenty two players on any given play, you know,

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and the refs can't manipulate.

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Speaker 1: So it's still to me the most pure, that's the

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best sport.

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Speaker 3: But when you have committees, when you have councils, when

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you have you know, these obscure behind closed door metrics

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that they're leaning into, there is always ways to corrupt

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one and it's unfair. But at the same time, is

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this better than what we've had in the past. Yes,

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it is because at least teams have a chance, more

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teams have a chance. It's not just one game national

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championship with bowl games, it's not just the final four,

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it's twelve now. So I do respect the progress that

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the college football cabal or thegoppoly has made in order

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to it would be more inclusive and share the wealth

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and share the moneies and allow others to engage in competitive,

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high level football. But it's unfair. We got to expand

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again one hundred percent, and luckily for us, I'm telling

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you right now, it is great that Notre Dame took

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their ball home and said never again, we ain't playing.

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We will not be monetized. Okay, we will not be

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taking advantage of we're bigger. They think they're bigger than

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the college football answer, they're bigger and stronger than the

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college football oligopoly.

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Speaker 1: They're bigger than the power too.

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Speaker 3: They are if if you're not gonna include us, then

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we're taking our ball and going home. I think it's

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gonna benefit BYU in the long run because you're gonna

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be forced to expand the playoff. What the College Football

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Committee's trying to do and the college football power brokers,

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what they're trying to do is force Notre Dame to

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get into a conference gonna do it. They're not gonna

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do it like Beverquah. Notre Dame's alumed. Notre Dame's like

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power structure will not yield. They will not bend the knee.

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Speaker 1: All your Game of Thrones fans, they will not bend

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Speaker 3: Okay, they won't. What they're going to do is they're

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going to force an expansion, and they're probably gonna want

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more algorithm, more metrics, more computerized system in order to

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keep them in and a contract that says it. Obviously,

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we already know about it. If they're in the top fourteen,

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they get in. If you expand to sixteen, they're getting in.

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No matter what they have to, like get into a

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four loss season for them to be ousted once again.

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always be in the top sixteen. They will always be

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I'm telling you right now, they will not let this

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happen again, and they will not allow anyone to force

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them to join a conference. That's what I'm seeing. They

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very well could disassociate with their acc deal because they

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feel like they have not been good advocates for them.

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We've heard that, we heard it from Deverquah that relationship

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is on the rocks. If not completely already done, it's done.

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right now, no way, not after how they've been treated,

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Speaker 1: They think that they've been treated unfairly. I disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they necessarily meet the standard and requirement

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that it was set by the committee themselves, by the

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college football power brokers themselves when this college football playoff

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was launched years ago, and it's by the way.

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Speaker 1: This is through twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 3: So the Committee and the human element with dufuses like

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Hunter Yurachek getting out in front of a camera and

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giving you like this reality TV absurdity. That's what it is.

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It's all to monetize and to make everyone bicker and

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moan and converse and extrapolate and debate. That's what it's about.

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It is our version, men's version of reality TV. That's

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what this is. That that's exactly what it is. They

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trot out the dummy. Remember, reality TV is set up

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so that we make we We're smarter, we're better, we

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feel better about ourselves. We watch reality TV because like, wow,

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those guys are idiots. That girl is an idiot? Are

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they are low IQ humans? What do we come away

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from every single time we hear anyone speak from the committee?

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Speaker 1: They are stupid, They are ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It just makes us feel better about ourselves, right, and

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then we're angry and then we converse about it.

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Speaker 1: It's just reality TV, that's all it is.

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Speaker 3: They're taking what has worked with the Bachelor, Bachelorette. We

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name any one of those real lives of Mormon housewives.

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I don't know all of it where we just sit there. Yeah,

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it was so dumb, dumb, just ridiculous. And I'm so

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much smarter. That's all they're doing to us, and we

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to do BYU was solid here. The committee was trying

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and foremost our executive producer behind the glass. He was

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actually out at the Big twelve Championship game covering this

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demolition of the BYU Cougar football team. Let's welcome in

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Ronald the three Van Weave and Ronnie, how you living?

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Speaker 1: I'm living, good man.

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Speaker 5: Look I can legit say in Texas Tech is a

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legit playoff team for sure, in the title national championship contender.

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Speaker 3: Look, they got a chance to go all the way

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at this.

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Speaker 5: I just can't wait to see them give Dante more

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as our friend of the program, John Kurtz ben Soelvinsider says, hell,

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because that defense is a problem. I thought Jacob Rodriguez

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was just a dude. But John Curry and Ben Roberts

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or dudes to the Stash crew in that linebacker room.

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech got it all been.

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Speaker 3: I hope. I think every BYU fans fan has become

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a Texas Tech fan and they are hoping that the

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Red Raiders just plow through the bracket and win the

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national championship. They're on the side of Indiana. Indiana is

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a fantastic team, one of the like if you look

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at their their recruiting rankings, their composite talent on their roster.

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Speaker 1: They actually, per two four seven, have a worse roster

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than BYU. Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 3: BYA has the seventieth best roster per twenty four seven sports.

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Kirk sign Eddy and the Hoosiers are are below that

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and they're gonna play for possibly a you know, maybe

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a semi final or even a national championship. They are

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the number one seed. They knocked off Ohio State. Crazy

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that that has happened. But Texas Tech is in the

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same brackets is Indiana, and I believe that Texas Tech

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can beat Indiana. I really do. I know everyone's gonna bebate,

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but Asu. That ASU game, Yeah, that was an interesting one.

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I don't know what happened exactly in that that ASU game.

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Obviously Barren More was out. Obviously it was a wilder,

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rockoush environment. Sam Lett had a great game and led

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the ASU Sun Devils in a great victory. It came

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down to the final possession, came down to the final play,

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and Texas Tech wasn't able to do it. But since

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that day, Texas Tech has elevated their play to astronomical

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levels and they are dominant.

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Speaker 1: They've been dominant every single game.

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Speaker 3: But I think we're all rooting for the Red Raiders,

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and you want to see the Big twelve Darling, the

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Black Gold Darling knockoff everybody that stands in their way.

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We wish them well. Let's also welcome in Brett always

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bring the Hammer Hammer time show how you doing, Brett Hammer.

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Isn't it so interesting how we feel about Texas Tech,

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Like I think by fans across the border willing to say, yeah,

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we're Texas Tech fans.

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Speaker 1: We hope they win it all.

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Speaker 3: Remember last year how we felt about Arizona State. We

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hated the Sun Devils. We hated Kenny Dillingham, we hated

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Sam Levitt, we hated Kamskataboo, we hated everything about those

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stupid Arizona State Sun Devils because of the fact that

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they prevented us from being in the Big Twelve title

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and Texas Tech wins smacks us twice. By the way,

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we weren't even close with either one of those games,

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and we're like, oh, yeah, we love Texas Tech. Man.

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They're so good to us, They're so nice to us.

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We're rooting for Joey McGuire these guys. It's just so

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funny to see the dichotomy how that's changed between the

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team we hated last year who won the Big Twelve conference,

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and the team who won it this year. Fun staut

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of the Day Satura the Day presented by Vanderwilf B

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has lost four games in the last two years. Only

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one of those games did AU lose. Was the team

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not a conference champion that year? Wow? Yeah. The only

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champions they lost this year was conference champion and the

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one game they lost last year and almost beat Texas

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one of the darlings of the college football world last year,

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and Sam Levi and it came down to a final possession,

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final play.

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Speaker 1: And Sam Levitt was basically not existing.

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Speaker 3: Correction Camady Kimscott who had to throw a touchdown in

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the game. So Texas basically had a handicap playing it

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I'm pretty sure it didn't win a conference championship this year. Miami.

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to were conference champions this year. But you know what

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it is. What it is, BA pretty much only loses

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the conference champs And that leads me into one of

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my initial commentaries here. I truly believe because of what

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Bayu's accomperence over the last two years that BYU, or

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that power Brokers and ESPN specifically wanted to do, BYU

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was solid by not allowing them. From the beginning, we

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knew BA was not gonna get in unless they be tech.

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They had to win the conference. Okay, we knew that

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so and that's why they are graphic never showed up.

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It never showed up next to Alabama or Miami or

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Notre Dame or Oklahoma, like we were never included ever so,

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but they they did us as solid by I mean,

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it looked like they were trying to do by scheduling

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and they figure, hey, this is a nice little push

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to get into a conference. It's gonna have the opposite effect,

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in my opinion, I think you're seeing that and we'll

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get to beverquass sound the ad for Notre Dame here momentarily,

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but it's gonna have the opposite effect.

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Speaker 1: But I understand why they were trying to do it.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to do by you assault because b

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WYU had a better resume than Notre Dame this year.

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They had a better resume. They had a better resume

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than Miami. But remember ESPN is associated with who ACC.

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That's the media rights deal. They wanted and needed an

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ACC winner. Okay, and Miami was the best team quotation

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Mark and I guess Virginia and Duke were not.

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Speaker 1: Nora was Georgia Tech. They didn't earn it right.

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Speaker 3: So they gave Miami because of the late push in

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November and the way that they're winning and the branding

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and the equity, they had to do a solid to

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the acc right because of that connectivity BYU if Notre

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Dame would have decided to play which breaking news. By

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the way, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish are now rebranding.

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They are no longer the Fighting Irish. They are just

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the Irish because they have no fight in them, no

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fight left in them. They took their ball and they

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went home. This is what I call female caninery. This

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is female caninery. That that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: And look, Beverqua is gonna give you a little love here.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: When he talks about BYU and all the other teams,

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he said, to keep it.

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Speaker 3: He can keep it.

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Speaker 1: We don't need it, right, but we all know like.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I think they were gonna do BYU

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saw Notre Dame was supposed to be BYU's partner during independence.

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In time and time again, Notre Dame decided, Nah, we're good.

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We ain't going out there to provo. We'll play you

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in our in our Shamrock series in Vegas where we

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control the two We control the sound, we control the sponsors,

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we control everything, and we'll make it into a home

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game experience, which they did, and they beat BYU. Our

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defense was trash, by the way, those really bad defensive effort,

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and our offense came up, came up short, right, came

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up a little bit short on that final drive.

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Speaker 1: But we had a final drive knocking on the door.

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They're late anyway.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that the college football cabal was trying

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to do BYU assalid after everything they accomplished, and they

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were gonna put BYU and Notre Dame. The best consolation

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prize in college football outside the College Football Playoff is

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pop tarts ball and for by you going to Orlando.

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You're kidding me. BO defense are like huzzah, all right, Okay,

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I get it. We got our trash kick. They're more angry,

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I think they would be more. They're more angry at

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their football team and maybe certain coaches than they are

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the Collge Football playff Committee. Right now, would you agree

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with that BYU fans are more angry with after the

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loss to Texas Tech, right because they see the chasm,

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they see the expanse between them and the elite college

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football team, right, does that make sense? Like, so they

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then they turn on who their offensive coordinator, They're gonna

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turn on coaches. They're like, oh, yeah, so we got

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the opportunity to play Notre Dame. Notre Dame said no, peace,

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Why because because Miami couldn't go to the the pop

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Tarts Bowl again. Guys. They went last year against Iowa State,

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so they would have had gone two consecutive pop Tarts Balls.

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Speaker 1: As ESPN's partner, what's that, sorry, what do you say?

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Speaker 3: No, no Miami, I'm saying Miami couldn't go to consecutive

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pop Tarts Balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they went to the pop Tarts Bowl last year.

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Speaker 3: They lost to Iowa State because their star quarterback didn't

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play in the second half. Do you guys remember that?

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So Miami's over here having a gripe with ESPN their partners,

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saying we will not go, well, we don't want to

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go to the pop Tarts Ball. They did play in it,

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by the way, Notre Dame to the ball and went home.

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The female knines that they are right the the the

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pompous full of hubris, you know, just just elitist program,

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that they are right by the way, Rudy got baptized

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in the church's chrestvil and I said, he's more of

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a BYU fan now is than he is a Notre

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Dame Irish fan. Not fighting, not fighting, because that's that's

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no longer there quit that That sign should say quit. Yep,

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you know when when things get tough, right, quit when

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things get tough, that's what that sign should should say.

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Speaker 1: Irish. What's that?

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Speaker 3: Notre ame quitting Irish? And that's what they are, man

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quitting Irish. So you see kind of the domino effect

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and what what advocacy there was Miami. There's no way

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Miami wanted to go to the Pop Tarts ball and

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that would have been the consolation prize if they were limited.

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If they were they were not allowed. Alabama got screwed

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last year in their mind. Remember Alabama was not in

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the collg football player who was kicking and screaming a

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moment last year.

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Speaker 1: It was Alabama. Do you guys remember that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're the ones that took to all of

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that momentum and hatred and they said, you know, we

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need to include it strength of record and look, they

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had the best winning colleg football. I totally agree with

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that one of the worst losses. Also, yeah, one of

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the worst losses, but they had one of the best wins.

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So you can see the ceiling on the floor for Alabama.

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I have no problem honestly with Alabama being in, and

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I don't think that they should be castigated and reprimanded

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for losing in their conference championship game. I just don't,

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and you know by you shouldn't either. But we're the

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new kid on the block, We're the new money. Guys.

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Do you think the new money and the new kid

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on the block is gonna get that tip of the cap? No,

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remember what happened last year? SMU got demolished. Okay, they

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don't want to see that again. Boise State got pummeled.

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They don't want to see that again to a degree.

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Right with seating, remember seating, Right, So Tulane and James

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Madison both get in, but they didn't get good seating.

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They didn't deserve good seating, and they're gonna get destroyed this.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't be in because.

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Speaker 3: They're not one of the top twelve teams, but contractually

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they must be in, so they had to go and

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abide by the contract. Can someone explain to me how

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we live in a world where the collegewall playoffs mandate

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if you win your conference championship, you get in. Cool.

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So that's the only reason we're letting Tulane and jam

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you in. Did Miami play in their conference championship, because

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I'm pretty sure they didn't. Did they have a shot

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at playing in it? No, they didn't because they lost

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a tiebreaker to a seven and five duke team who

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was bad this year. I still don't like. I don't

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feel however you want. They felt like they needed to

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have an a SEC representative. That's it, and that's no,

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That's what it is. They had to because of the

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advocacy and the alignment and the money that's involved with

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ESPN and the and the a SEC period.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is we do that with the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: We're not even letting the other team who played in

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the Big Twelve championship get in. We're letting a Miami

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team who did not even quite like how was Miami

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the best team in their conference?

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Speaker 1: If they didn't win it, they did not even make

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the game.

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Speaker 3: But we're saying we're essentially ignoring the fact that they

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play in the ACC. That's what we're doing because we

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feel like, frankly, they owe a lot to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: They owe so much to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Their whole campaign for the playoffs was, well we beat

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Notre Dame like twelve weeks ago. Well yeah, since then,

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you've lost to two unranked teams and you didn't qualify

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for your conference championship. I just I'm still hung up

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on the fact that Miami made this thing when they

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did not. They lost a tiebreaker to a team that's

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seven and five, And I get the tiebreaker system. It's

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not perfect, ye, but we're not talking about a team

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who had one less loss or two less two more

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losses than you. This is a seven and five duke team.

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You didn't beat them in a tiebreaker head to head,

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so you didn't make your conference championship, but somehow, because

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the committee ranked you there, therefore you get in. Yeah,

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well this is the thing. Okay, let me go back

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to Alabama here. Alabama played in a bowl game last year.

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They played played and lost to Michigan. They didn't take

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their ball and go home, right, and Alabama has every

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right too, wouldn't you say? Over the last twenty years,

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twenty five years, they've been the best team of college football.

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They have every right, they had every right to say,

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we're not playing you screwed us, and we're going in.

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We're taking our ball and we're going home. It's crazy

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to me that Notre Dame did it. I understand why

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they're doing it. I understand what they think. They believe

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that they have more they wield more power than they

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really do. I think is the question how much power

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do they really wield in the college football landscape? Right?

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If they go purely independent, Let's say they take out

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all of their Olympic sports teams out of the ACC,

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they double bird the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Will the Big Ten pick up their Olympic sports?

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Speaker 3: Is that what they'll do? You know what I mean?

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Will they pick up their Olympic sports because geographically maybe

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it's better for them? They may the Big Ten day

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now do it and Notre Dame will then be forced

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to have a greater strength of schedule. Does that make sense?

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If they end up pulling out of the ACC six

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game agreement and they align with the Big Ten at

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the well, then they'd have to actually play football or

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they wouldn't, or they go purely independent. Right if the

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Big Ten would allow them. I don't know if the

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Big ten would, but let me tell you, So there's

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that component that I'm taking into account. Everyone's like, well,

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why is it that ESPN is advocated for the ACC

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and now for the Big twelve. Remember there's a bifurcation

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between meteorites. It's ESPN and Fox in the Big twelve.

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That's a competitive environment. It's not a sole ownership of

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the content in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: This is split.

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Speaker 3: How many games do we have on Big Nut? How

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many games do we have on ESPN? We had a

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split for BYU this year. So it's not pure advocacy.

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I've said this time and time again. Who and what

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are your advocates for BYU? Who's an advocate for BYU

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at the table, at the elitist table? There aren't that many.

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We're gaining them, though, I'm telling you, we're gaining them

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as we go about doing it the right way and

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having you know, we do have a robust, aggressive fan

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base that's on social media, like the metrics digitally, the

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metrics from Nielsen, Like we're a well respected program in

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that regard because you can monetize us. As soon as

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I said this, forever as soon as the general college

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football landscape like realizes that they can monetize the rabid

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BYU fan base digitally and with Nielsen ratings and with

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corporate sponsorships, then then we'll be probably more included. We're

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gonna have more advocacy. So I go back to ESPN

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was still trying to do us a solid, giving us

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the fighting Irish in Orlando. Like, if you ask me, Ben,

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you're gonna get a crappy ass choose my language. This

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is in the Bible. You can say, ass, you served mission.

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I served a mission. That is the threshold seating in

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the college football Playoff as an at large bid because

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that's what we were, because we weren't the conference chap

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You're gonna get a crappy seating and you're probably gonna

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go against a team that's gonna kick the trash out

471
00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:58,839
of you, like more than likely the elite teams one

472
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through five. You would have got one of those teams

473
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:05,480
and you're probably gonna gonna lose or seen Texas tecon

474
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,440
again by the way, yeah you could have seen Texas

475
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:08,240
and I don't think.

476
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Look, I know there's a lot of fans who think,

477
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:11,039
give them one more time.

478
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: No, Texas, got dude, You're gonna get a crummy seed

479
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160
and you're probably gonna lose that game because we just don't.

480
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Speaker 1: Have the horses.

481
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Is We're good, We're a great team. We're a great team.

482
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We're in that six to fifteen. We can compete with

483
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the Alabamas, the Oklahomas, we can compete with Miami, we

484
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,960
can compete with Notre Dame. Obviously those are great teams too.

485
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But if you gave me that option of a crappy

486
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,240
seed or to beat Notre Dame, to play Notre Dame

487
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:44,039
in a true neutral environment in Orlando, I'm like I

488
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,720
I would I probably would have picked Notre Dame. Like

489
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I know, I was like, no, Ben, you're an idiot wife,

490
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,359
Oh Dari, I'm like, we're not gonna freaking survive in advance.

491
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,119
You're gonna go in the get your tails kicked, and

492
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,319
a whole college football landscape is gonna say we've never

493
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,319
should let you in either way, Whereas this way, at

494
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,640
this way you could go in. You could complain that

495
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,200
you didn't get in, and you would have had a

496
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,440
right to say that, and then you beat note of

497
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,200
a name, and then it's like, well, look you guys

498
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,720
are wrong about it, even though we didn't want get

499
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,759
in because we probably would have been.

500
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Speaker 1: Our tails cap. But you know what we can say

501
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,599
that we should have like we can week, we could

502
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,039
beat Notre Dame, like we match up extremely well.

503
00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: Look at the history, look at them. We've talked to sir,

504
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,279
and they didn't want anything to do it because they know.

505
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:30,119
They know when you're on a neutral field versus b

506
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,960
Yu okay, and you don't have the competitive enage. That's

507
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,039
why you look at their road slate. Notre Dame is

508
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,880
very strategic, they're very operational. Their architecture is very good.

509
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,480
That's why everyone attacked them with their resume, Like you

510
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:46,480
didn't have any road wins. Yes, you you were. You

511
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:50,599
were competitive right against some good teams this year, there's

512
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,640
no doubt. But you lost those games and I didn't

513
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,039
do anything, and you lost it at home. So I

514
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,839
don't know, I get it, like I have no aim,

515
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,640
or like I'll retweet it all right, I'll retweet. I'm like, hey,

516
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:08,119
like yeah, anyone like Dave Portnoy advocating for BYU. I

517
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,640
would have loved to be in the COLLG football player

518
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,920
if I would have loved the money and the resource

519
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480
that could have been distributed to BYU directly and all

520
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,319
those things, and a chance to be in the big dance.

521
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: But honestly, if you'd have give me that choice, like I,

522
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,400
I probably would have.

523
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:24,079
Speaker 3: I probably would have liked to beat Notre Dame in Orlando.

524
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,920
That's I think ESPN was doing BYU was solid there,

525
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:32,680
all things considered, I think that this was this was hatched.

526
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: This strategy was hatched a long time ago.

527
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,319
Speaker 3: They knew, Okay, the if you know ball like you

528
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:43,519
kind of know, like who the best teams are? You

529
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,839
really do like and you know, I really do believe

530
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,480
if I bracketed out, if I if I buyfer Kate,

531
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,279
if I split it up, there's probably five elite teams

532
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,519
this year and then you have six to fifteen, set,

533
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,079
sixteen seventeen that are great football teams. Is where I

534
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,160
look at it right. For BA is a part of that.

535
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,160
Boa is a great football team. But we still had

536
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,799
a chasm. We still have a lot of ground to

537
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:07,839
make up before we're an elite football team. And I

538
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,799
prefer not to get my teeth kicked in by an

539
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:13,119
elite football team because of poor seeding.

540
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,319
Speaker 1: Because I'm an at large. Well, but you just want

541
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:15,759
to be able.

542
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: To get into this.

543
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,319
Speaker 1: It's not the Sama Tournament.

544
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: It's not anyone can beat anybody in basketball, you can

545
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,119
get hot. In football, the best team more often than not,

546
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,440
more often than not on a neutral field. Okay, we'll win.

547
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,200
The team who kicked your teeth is the four seed,

548
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,400
meaning there's three teams that the committee thinks are better.

549
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:37,079
Speaker 1: Than that team.

550
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: Now I don't know that I agree, I'm not gonna

551
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,799
win that text second is not the best team. I

552
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,079
think they might be, But either way, there's three other

553
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,400
guys who are also in that group. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

554
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,440
that's kind of where I stand foundationally with this guys.

555
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,680
And so look, Georgia Tech, you got a great chance

556
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,519
to win and have one of the most the greatest

557
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,720
seasons in BAU football history. This is okay, it just is.

558
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:01,279
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest. It's awesome, and it's only

559
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:01,759
getting better.

560
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:05,079
Speaker 3: Remember, Texas Tech had to spend twenty eight million to

561
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,079
get that roster, and furthermore, it's really hard to spend

562
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,799
that much money and retain your culture. It's really hard

563
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,440
to spend that by you spent approximately ten million on

564
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,960
their roster and they maintain their culture too, and that's

565
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,240
why they're a great football team. Okay, and now there

566
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,799
is more investment. Now, Remember the investment is not coming

567
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,519
from the Church of Jesus Christ, the letter Saints and

568
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,440
tides and offerings. Okay, this is coming from This has

569
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,839
coming from donors that believe that BYU Athletics is an

570
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:35,000
ambassadorial tool for good and they want it to be

571
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,279
prominent and go about doing good and providing service and

572
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,680
raising funds for those that are in need and also

573
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,160
food stuffs for those that are in need in the

574
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,519
geographies and the communities that you're going and competing in,

575
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:52,119
while all all the while not burying our talents before God. Okay,

576
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,359
everyone thinks that spiritual, academic, scientific talents are always greater

577
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:02,240
than any sort of physical talents that we are blessed with.

578
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,359
And what I'm saying is, look, these are physical talents

579
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,680
that that many are blessed with, and you can continue

580
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,519
to feature those as well. And those those donors want

581
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,359
it to do well. They get to eat what they killed.

582
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920
They play in their own sandbox. They're not taking tithes

583
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,680
and offerings. I know. I was having a debate with

584
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:21,519
my father about this yesterday, about you know, the contract

585
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,079
essentsion of Kilan and where we're going and what we're

586
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,640
doing and the great and spacious and are we doing

587
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,000
it the right way? And I think we are. I

588
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880
think we're doing it the right way. I think are

589
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,160
we Are we spending to win at all costs? I

590
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,880
don't think so. I think we're going about doing good

591
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,599
while we're trying to win the right way with a

592
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,400
great ambassador named Colonisa talking.

593
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,319
Speaker 1: And guess what we decided a top twenty one recruiting

594
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:45,319
class that of.

595
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Kids that I think student athletes that I believe align

596
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,039
with the mission of the church and align with the

597
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,000
mission of Brigham You on University. Okay, going the right way?

598
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,079
And I think you know, I'm optimistic, I'm positive. I

599
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,079
have gratitude for this season. I hope you guys do

600
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,279
as well. I hope you've been able to get over

601
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:10,039
the demolition. I hope you realize that the perspective, the

602
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
truth of the matter, there is a big chasm between

603
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440
you and elite football players right now, elite football schools.

604
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,359
To win a national championship again, I think you can

605
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,240
make up that ground, though, I really do. I think

606
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,759
you can get to that elite status doing it the

607
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,599
right way. I believe that wholeheartedly. So we'll go to break.

608
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: We didn't really get into the starting lineup. I was

609
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,920
just going off on a diet tribe.

610
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: I apologize, completely circumventding traditional procedure. We'll get into the

611
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:40,599
rest of our nitty gritty on the flip side, but

612
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,440
our starting lineup includes I'll be honest, like, I'm just

613
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:50,160
going off on this right now, and I apologize for

614
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,279
the diet tribe to start it off. Start us off, Ronnie.

615
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,640
Ronnie's like, you got to get to they you gotta

616
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,079
get through this.

617
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,279
Speaker 1: I apologize, Ronnie.

618
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: We'll get into the rest of the starting lineup in

619
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,319
and anybody coming up next that first segment, though, shout

620
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:04,759
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Speaker 2: When Ben Crittle isn't breaking down Kobe some amounts of

629
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film on his beloved Cougar football team, he's talking Cougar

630
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sports and he's doing it right here on one oh

631
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632
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633
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634
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go to source on the radio and online for all

635
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641
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dropkick Murphy's Band of the Day. I feel like I

642
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,599
would go with an Irish Celtic type of field today

643
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,400
with the Band of the Day. The fighting Irish no

644
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,000
longer are fighting. They are the quitting Irish. There's no

645
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,359
fight left in him. Just call them the Irish. My

646
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,039
guy John says, opt out like a champion today. And

647
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,559
why doesn't Notre Dame like pop tarts? No, they just

648
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,799
prefer cupcakes. Nice. Yes, indeed, shout out to John texting

649
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,200
me that earlier in the show. And we're gonna get

650
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240
into the rest of our starting lineup. We're gonna have

651
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:49,759
John Beck later on the show. Brady Papinga, it's who

652
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:53,359
we usually talk with on Monday after wins and losses.

653
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,920
Office has been much more winning this season than losses.

654
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200
But your two losses, hey, shoot, like you have two

655
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,799
of the best losses in college football.

656
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: You got some quality losses.

657
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,519
Speaker 3: So what an ESPN and the College Football Playoff Committee

658
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,519
essentially do they put you into a situation where you

659
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,960
were gonna play another team that had a few quality losses,

660
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:15,279
some of the best quality losses per their perception in

661
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,359
college football, that was Notre Dame. Notre Dame said nay,

662
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,880
they said no, we will not go. And the fighting

663
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,319
Irish are now the quitting Irish. And it's unfortunate, man,

664
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:33,400
because BYU versus Notre Dame in Orlando, what a consolation

665
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:37,039
prize that would have been, Like, I'll be honest, like

666
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,960
that would have satisfied me that feels like a New

667
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:40,680
York six Bowl.

668
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really have those anymore, but like

669
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:43,519
that feels like a New Year sity.

670
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:47,119
Speaker 3: That would have satisfied me. That to me, like that

671
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,119
would have made me happy. You know what. I was

672
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440
pretty juiced about it. I was pretty psyched about it.

673
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:59,519
And Notre Dame's like, h nah. Still to this day,

674
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:05,480
not an advocate, not a friend of BYU's turned down

675
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:08,599
the payout whatever it was with like, you know, six

676
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,079
million dollars I think is the payout for the pop

677
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,400
cards ball didn't need it, don't want it. We'll take

678
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:19,679
will take the uh, the fine or whatever it is

679
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,519
that I guess. They're not a part of a concert.

680
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,679
They may not get fined. They don't even want the

681
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,000
money though they don't need the money. That's crazy to me,

682
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,480
just just insane what's happened. But once again, I'll go

683
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:36,079
back to this. The thesis is that Notre Dame thinks

684
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:40,519
that they have more power, more leverage over the college

685
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:45,480
football world. Then we all believe that they do, like

686
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,320
they're bigger than everybody else, they're stronger than everybody else,

687
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,800
that they're gonna wield their their brand.

688
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 1: That has been built over the last one hundred years.

689
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: And I'm excited to see that the oligopoly, the COLLG

690
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,639
football could bal compete with Notre I really am. Now.

691
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,760
Notre Dame already has a contract in place that if

692
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,840
they'd expands the fourteen that they're in right in the

693
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,119
top fourteen, they're gonna get into the COG football player.

694
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,159
Speaker 1: And I don't think this is gonna happen again, I

695
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,599
really don't.

696
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: Unless Notre Dame is a four loss team, you know,

697
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:17,280
maybe a three loss team, they're probably gonna be in.

698
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
If they're a two loss team going forward, they're gonna

699
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239
be in the college football playoff going forward. Okay, And

700
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,679
this particular deal, this contract is through twenty thirty two.

701
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:28,639
I don't know if they can change that. I don't

702
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:30,639
know if they can expand that in the time being,

703
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,559
revamp it, remodel it, restructure it. But I think it

704
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is the way that it is for the time being.

705
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So I do want to listen to mister Bubba Quap

706
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,320
of Notre Dame, the athletic director. In this segment, he

707
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:48,800
hopped onto a number of shows. He hopped onto a

708
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,800
number of shows recently. I think the pat mcviee show

709
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:56,840
Barstools Sports, which one do you have Q up for me?

710
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: First? Here Ronald the three and man Weaver. Alright, this

711
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,000
is wake up barsto.

712
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: Hopefully there's no cursing as a number of competitions you

713
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,480
hear from Dave Portnoy, I think beverqually as well. Let's

714
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:10,960
get into it.

715
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: But I say I am of the thought that you

716
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,400
guys have nothing to complain about. I think you're a

717
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,920
very good team. I think't could win the whole tournament.

718
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,079
I'm a BYU backer. I think when you look at

719
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:26,719
the end of the season, I don't think you should

720
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,159
be penalized or playing an extra game. And I don't

721
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,559
see anyway the resume Notre Dame at the end of

722
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,639
the season is ahead of BYU.

723
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you, I think there are a

724
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000
lot of deserving teams. I definitely think BYU is one

725
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,280
of them. They had a great season. They lost to

726
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,000
a really good Texas Tech team twice, but had a

727
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:51,599
great season. I think Texas, Vanderbilt, Miami, Alabama, Notre Dame

728
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,519
all great teams. So we don't have any grape with

729
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,639
the teams that made it, or quite frankly other teams

730
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,199
that deserve to be considered. I couldn't agree more with

731
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,679
you about BYU. I they had a fantastic season with

732
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,199
a fantastic coach. It's great atmosphere for football out there.

733
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,039
I know you had a blast when you went out there.

734
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,840
Our problem, Dave, is with the process right.

735
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: So we were for right or.

736
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 6: Wrong reasons, and you might totally disagree with me, but

737
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,960
we were absolutely led to believe this entire CFP ranking

738
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:26,360
season that we were in. You know, you go back

739
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,280
to that first ranking. We were six and two, Miami

740
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,199
was six and two, and they beat us. They beat

741
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,000
us in that first game. I'm not going to argue that.

742
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:34,760
I mean, that's plain a day. You know, it was

743
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,719
a good game, but they beat us. But we were

744
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
both six and two. We were tenth, they were eighteenth.

745
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,440
The only thing that happened from that point is we

746
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,679
both went out in convincing fashion. I think we won

747
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
our next four games by an average of thirty points.

748
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,679
For some reason, we end up eleventh and on the

749
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,000
outside looking in in the Tuesday ranking, the penultimate ranking,

750
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,480
all of a sudden we drop below Alabama. We go

751
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:03,639
and handle business in Stanford in a very convincing fashion.

752
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,639
Alabama beats an Auburn team that had a difficult year

753
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,599
and it was a close game, and like, we're not

754
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,760
getting reasonable explanations for this. You know, I heard you.

755
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,159
One thing was they went for it on fourth down,

756
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,480
and that.

757
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:19,119
Speaker 1: Was that was crazy and they said they had to day.

758
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:21,119
Speaker 6: You got to understand to me, I'm not I have

759
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,960
all the respect in the world from Miami, great team,

760
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:27,599
great program, great coach, all this. Nobody's had more success

761
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,960
in the last decade than Alabama, BYU Texas, Vanderbilt, Clarklee,

762
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:34,960
I think the world of Clarkly. We're not complaining. I'm

763
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,760
not complaining about the teams. I'm complaining about the process

764
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400
and the fact that Marcus had to get up there

765
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,079
in front of those kids yesterday, Yeah, and didn't have

766
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:45,400
any real answers.

767
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:52,199
Speaker 3: Well, the answer here, mister Beverquhy is Hey, Alabama played

768
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,280
in their bowl game when they got screwed last year,

769
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,320
you know, screwed quotation mark, Go play in your bowl game.

770
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,480
You have seniors that will never play college fou again,

771
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,000
You selfish son of a motherless goat?

772
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,159
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

773
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: Like you're taking that opportunity away from that, and what

774
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480
they'll say is, well, we're gonna lose players, They're gonna

775
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,000
opt out. Okay, Like, you have a bowl game opportunity

776
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,239
to go develop your guys for the next three weeks,

777
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,639
you get additional practices, you get additional money, you can

778
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,159
get your team to be better.

779
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, we don't want any of that.

780
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,320
We were so upset at the process that we.

781
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: Are going to rob our football players, our seniors, of

782
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,360
an experience that they'll never get back. Now, like ten

783
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,840
years down the road, when these notre name football players

784
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,960
are asked, what was the last game he played in?

785
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,199
Speaker 1: Did you how many Bowl games did you play in?

786
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

787
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I played in you know, in three bowl games or whatever? Right, well,

788
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,960
why didn't you play in the fourth?

789
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:56,119
Speaker 3: Oh? We quit, you know, our our ad and our

790
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,920
coach quit. They said, no, we're not gonna we're not

791
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,719
gonna play football. We're gonna we're gonna disrupt the system

792
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,480
that has been in place for over one hundred years,

793
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,760
a bowl system, and we're just gonna say no, Like, wait,

794
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,519
so are you a quitter?

795
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 1: Corporate America is gonna ask are you a quitter? Did

796
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:11,679
you want to play?

797
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: Oh? You know, no, like that tells me everything I

798
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,840
need to know. If the if the players like, I

799
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,760
feel like the players should revolt like no, we.

800
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: Want to play.

801
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: I feel robbed. Yeah, I may feel robb that I

802
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400
wasn't including a colled football playoff, But it just goes

803
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,719
show the culture. I thought the culture was better at

804
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,559
Notre Dame. I thought the culture was better. I thought it.

805
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Football is built on grit, tenacity, resiliency.

806
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,159
Speaker 3: You know.

807
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: It teaches you to fail collectively as a team, and

808
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,760
it teaches a win collectively as a team.

809
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: You're uprooting the faith family football culture that has been

810
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,519
established since its inception. You're you're upending it, You're subterfusing it,

811
00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:59,440
you're manipulating it. And what you're saying to the world

812
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:05,559
is like, we care about the vanity and selfishness of

813
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,719
our institution and ourselves.

814
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: We care about ourselves and that's all that matters. It's selfishness.

815
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: It's completely contrary to the football culture at any level,

816
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,000
pop Warner to high school to college to the NFL.

817
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,000
In my opinion, it's just it's a travesty, man, it

818
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,400
really is. And I think when this is all said

819
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,559
and done, five ten years down the road. Every single

820
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,679
one of these individuals is going to regret that they

821
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,199
didn't let the boys play in a bowl game, their

822
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920
last opportunity to play in a game.

823
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:41,639
Speaker 1: And it's a great location too.

824
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,199
Speaker 3: The two things that are great about bowl games you

825
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,960
get to play a game or three things. You get

826
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,400
to play a game that you love. You get to

827
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,679
coach in the game that you love. Why you got

828
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,280
into it in the first place. All of these individuals

829
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:55,639
are playing a game or coaching in a game that

830
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920
they love. They appreciate the game, okay, for the pure

831
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840
love of the game, till you get a little bit

832
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,079
of money, right and you get to practice and you

833
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:05,159
get to play more at your school.

834
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 1: Okay, like that. That's that's the nature of it, right.

835
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,519
Speaker 3: So you look at all the positives and I just

836
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,039
I can't believe that they're stealing that from the players.

837
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,039
This is supposed to be at the student athletes, right.

838
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:26,400
For how long have we discussed branding wise? You know,

839
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:29,719
it's more than just sport, right, It's about academics, about

840
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,880
the student athlete and enrichment that that they get for

841
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,199
that they receive by aligning themselves with the institution. Well,

842
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,639
what they've said is No, it's not about the athletes anymore.

843
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,199
It's all about us. It's all about our institution, our

844
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,599
institutional pride, and it's not has nothing to do with

845
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,800
the student athletes and their enriching experience. Sorry, it's unfortunate.

846
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,840
Let's get to Josh Bate. One of the things that

847
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,599
I think is interesting and this is a catalyst. This

848
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:58,159
is exactly what I thought. I was texting a former

849
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:02,639
players thread as BYU lost the text six, I'm like, look,

850
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,320
this is what I see happening. I see because Heather

851
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,119
Dinnich had prognosticated it. I thought it was interesting when

852
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,639
she brought this up. BoA's gonna lose. They're gonna lose big,

853
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,800
Miami's gonna move up. Then they're gonna be right next

854
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,800
to Miami. Or see, Miami's gonna be right next to

855
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,599
Notre Dame, and then the head to head will come

856
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:22,159
into play and Miami will get the nod because because

857
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:26,119
because Duke ended up beating Virginia, right, you saw that happen.

858
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,960
And then I said, look BYU versus Notre Dame and

859
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,960
the pop tarts ball baby, And the reason why this

860
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,920
is gonna happen is because the college football cabal wants

861
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
the force Notre Dame, and they're gonna punish them for

862
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,599
not being in a conference.

863
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:44,159
Speaker 1: They want to push them towards the conference.

864
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Let's listen to Josh Pate from Page State College Football Show.

865
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 7: I think they paid a price for not being in

866
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,760
a conference.

867
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: Here.

868
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,519
Speaker 7: People kept yelling what they've been yelling at Notre Dame

869
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,000
for a long time, and that is you need to

870
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:56,639
join a conference. I've never yelled that at Notre Dame.

871
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,039
I never will yell that at Notre Dame. I fully

872
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:01,480
respect her in the pen. I've always said if I

873
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,800
were a major university, I'd want to do what Notre

874
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,159
Dame does. That would be an ideal situation. You call

875
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,159
all your own shots. Your seat at the table carries

876
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:15,400
as much weight as other conferences collectively carry at the table.

877
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,719
Who wouldn't want to be in Notre Dame's position. But

878
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,719
I did say, if you guys want to hold out

879
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,039
this small sliver of hope that they'll ever become more

880
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,679
motivated to join a conference, not that I think they will,

881
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,760
but if you ever want to hold out hope that

882
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,920
they'll become more motivated, you need to hope that they

883
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,679
have to pay a price in the form of losing

884
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,079
a playoff spot for not being in a conference. Now,

885
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,360
for the first round of the playoffs last year, the

886
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880
first time we ever had one, there was this rule

887
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,599
where if you didn't win a conference championship, you couldn't

888
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,000
have a first round by But that only lasted one year,

889
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
so that parameter got removed and it looked for all

890
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,760
the world like the stars were aligning for Notre Dame

891
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,800
to just exist in this new world. Pay no price.

892
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:58,639
I think they paid a price for not being in

893
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:00,880
a conference here, no.

894
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: Doubt about it. That's the nature of it. This is

895
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,239
the slap on the ridge from the college football caball

896
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,440
the oligopoly, the monopoly on the sports saying, hey, Notre Dame,

897
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,119
you should have been at a conference rose and then

898
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:11,960
then we would have got you in. That was the

899
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,360
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909
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where BYU fans do still have a gripe, right, is

910
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:46,519
they feel like they had a better resume than Miami.

911
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,519
They feel like they had a better resume than Oklahoma.

912
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,679
They had a better resume than Alabama. That very well

913
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,920
could be right. They had a better resume than Miami,

914
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,679
or excuse me, than Notre Dame. Let's talk real quick

915
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,039
about by U versus Notre Dame and how uh Dave

916
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:06,119
Portnoy's been the vocal advocate, and you've even heard Brett

917
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,960
yor Mark and Joey maguire, they've actively called out Notre Dame,

918
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:14,760
and even the ACCS a conference actively called out Notre Dame,

919
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,960
who they have a nice partnership with. They benefit synergistically

920
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,719
with their Olympic sports and their uh their six games

921
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,400
that they get to piggyback off of in their in

922
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:29,360
conference you know play uh play that they have Uh

923
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,840
this is uh the uh the SVP Podcast with a

924
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:38,480
Stanford Steve discovering and comparing and contrasting b YU and

925
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:44,719
Notre Dame's resumes. I started looking at BYU and Notre Dame.

926
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,039
I'm like b Yu's resumes better, Beating Utah is better

927
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:51,199
than beating USC, and ending factor in what Arizona's done

928
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,800
at the back end and go there and win like.

929
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: And see this is this is the thing that we do.

930
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 8: We took it as Notre Dame in Miami and put

931
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,639
him side by side, as if that's the only conversation

932
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,320
to have. This is a great exercise. But BYU and

933
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,760
Notre Dame side by side. You just said it that

934
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Utah win. Ultimately, Utah is highering the rankings in USC.

935
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:16,679
Speaker 3: So we know that. But from the beginning, they why

936
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,400
is it that they didn't want BYU compared to any

937
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,599
of these schools? Right? Why why didn't they want to

938
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,800
compare BYU to Miami, BYU to Notre Dame, BAU to Oklahoma,

939
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,880
BYU to Alabama.

940
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Speaker 1: Why weren't they doing that? So what's the intent there?

941
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: What do you think? What's your theory? I'll give you mine,

942
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,000
you show me yours real quick, Brett, what do you

943
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:41,679
make of it? Well, I mean, had you done the

944
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239
numbers and just done the objective data. I mean David

945
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,480
Hale was doing it every week. He was giving MUA

946
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,719
blind resume of BYU compared to someone else that everyone

947
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,360
thought was good. Boau's resume ended up being better. You said, huh,

948
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,880
that's weird. I think part of the reason that they

949
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,920
just tried to avoid looking at Byus because the close

950
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,719
or you looked, the more you may have realized that

951
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,639
ESPN may have been a little bit fraudulent.

952
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,119
Speaker 1: I actually texted somebody yesterday in production.

953
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,559
Speaker 3: At ESPN and I said, look, I said, talk to

954
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,440
me about the behind the scenes about BYU and ESPN,

955
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,880
because there's a lot of fans who feel like ESPN

956
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,679
has an inherent bias against BYU. And I was like,

957
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,920
I've worked in TV. I know how sometimes these things

958
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,960
come across. It's not an institutional thing where the CEO

959
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,639
of ESPN writes the graphic and says steals like, I've

960
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,159
written those graphics. I know how that works. As like, like,

961
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,079
aren't these fans a little bit crazy? And he texts

962
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,159
me back and he goes, I mean, I'm just gonna

963
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:40,639
pullup the text, because I don't even want to misquote him. Yeah,

964
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,199
but he was more into this than I was. Actually.

965
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,719
I think ESPN treats any non Big ten or SEC

966
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,400
school as.

967
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,519
Speaker 1: The redheaded stepchild.

968
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: That is what I was told from someone who works

969
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,280
at ESPN in production, and I was like, all right, well,

970
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,960
I thought that you were going to come back to

971
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960
me and say, no, you're crazy. There's no inherent bias.

972
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Sounds like there is a little bit. So it's it's

973
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,760
conference bias. That's where it stems from. That's your theory.

974
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,199
It's all conference based by it. I mean, it's money bias.

975
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,800
That's That's essentially what it is. Because ESPN, like you mentioned,

976
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:18,599
they have the direct contract with the SEC. That's the

977
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,239
only I believe that's the only conference they own exclusively

978
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,039
because the ACC is shared with the c DOT. So

979
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:26,119
then why would they advocate for the Big ten if

980
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:30,400
they don't have a contractual obligation and incentive to be

981
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,480
aligned with the Big Ten? I think because they have

982
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,159
to be like, you can't put into twelve on the

983
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,960
surface look like you're some sort of neutral party. You

984
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:42,920
have to, right, and I'm sure there's plenty of people

985
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,800
who in power at Ohio States in the world, at

986
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,079
the Big tens of the world.

987
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:48,599
Speaker 1: That would be frustrated.

988
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,199
Speaker 3: So I think you have to because because you're not

989
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,119
going to convince the college football world that the Big

990
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,880
twelve is just as good as the Big Ten, even

991
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,639
though I do think it's a fair experiment worth doing,

992
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,559
I don't think you'd be able to convince them to that.

993
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,119
But you also can't just rank twelve straight SEC teams

994
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,400
in and so I think that's part of the reason. Look,

995
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:13,280
I think it stems obviously from affiliations and contracts and partnerships.

996
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,599
I think baseline, as a Big twelve member, you're bifurcated

997
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,800
in your media, right stal So it's Fox and ESPN,

998
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:26,480
So that limits your advocacy at those ESPN executive meetings

999
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:31,280
and competitive councils, if you will. So that's one number

1000
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,639
two BYU is the new kid on the block, right,

1001
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:35,360
they're the new kid on the block with new money

1002
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,679
and new resources to a certain degree, and there is

1003
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,440
a certain amount of the good old boys club that

1004
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:45,800
exists in college athletics. And do not dismiss that, Okay,

1005
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,199
do not dismiss that. Everyone will say BA is a

1006
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,119
nice program as your herbivoquassa, the ad of Notre Dame.

1007
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,320
Nice program, utmost respect for them, but you haven't been

1008
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,480
at the table long enough. You're the new money, and

1009
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,760
new money is never good money. They feel like this

1010
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,480
is a flash in the pan, This is just a

1011
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,840
little bit here. You're just here for a moment. But

1012
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:08,679
you are you gonna be able to sustain it like

1013
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000
we've been able to sustain it for so long. Right,

1014
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,559
we've been doing this longer than you. We've been doing

1015
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,920
it better than you. We've been cheating better than you. Right,

1016
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,280
we found That's what it comes down to. Like at

1017
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,679
any moment in time, they're gonna say, you're just a

1018
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,039
nice little program, all due respect, but you're not in

1019
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:29,920
the club yet. And the Big twelve is viewed as

1020
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:36,719
what a glorified G sixty seven program. That's what it's

1021
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,079
viewed as right now from the power brokers. They took

1022
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:43,599
what they wanted. They took Texas, and they took Texas

1023
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,559
A and M years ago, and they took Oklahoma, right,

1024
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:48,960
and then the Big ten went out and got USC

1025
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,760
and UCLA and then Washington and Oregon, uh with like

1026
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,239
a diluted share. Right.

1027
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: Remember it was all diluted. It was havsies.

1028
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,639
Speaker 3: Essentially, they went out and got what they wanted from

1029
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:04,280
a break ending standpoint, from a monetization standpoint. So those

1030
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,920
two things coupled with Also, I believe the reality that

1031
00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:15,480
is talent based. BYU has a talented team, but from

1032
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,159
an NFL production standpoint, from a twenty four to seven

1033
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,800
sports potential rivals on three standpoint, it's not as good.

1034
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,239
So football guys are gonna lean and say, look like

1035
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,239
they're a good team, they're well coached. Traditional football culture says, hey,

1036
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,800
you go out and execute. Be gritty, be big, be strong.

1037
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,760
Joey McGuire said, like, byus, what competitive advantages by you

1038
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,599
have over text tech? He said, well, by use a

1039
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,639
physical team. They're big, they're strong, they can compete in

1040
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,039
that guard. That's what he said. Joey McGuire said that,

1041
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:48,719
And you saw now the chasm of physicality that by

1042
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,320
has to make up even though they are big and

1043
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,559
strong and physical. Right, So all of those things led

1044
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,599
BYU to be stiff armed out of this and I

1045
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,719
but I still will ride with this. They wanted to

1046
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,159
do BYU a favor because they feel like they earned it.

1047
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,119
So they gave him Notre Dame, and then Notre Dame said, no,

1048
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,679
not gonna do it. We're better than that, We're better

1049
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,960
than BYU. You're gonna stick us with the new money,

1050
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:20,320
You're gonna stick us with the other former independent, You're.

1051
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Gonna stick us.

1052
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:27,119
Speaker 3: It was punishment, pure and utter punishment due to a

1053
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,480
number of things. Okay, Notre Dame, Okay, Notre Dame is

1054
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:40,199
UH is the the entity. The team that is solo

1055
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,800
independent can do what they want, say what they want.

1056
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,360
And they've had power for too long. And the big

1057
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,400
ten in the SEC, ESPN, Fox right, they don't like that.

1058
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,960
They don't like it.

1059
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:56,119
Speaker 1: They don't like being leverage.

1060
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:59,039
Speaker 3: No one does. Do you think do you think Brian

1061
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:04,880
Santiago like being leveraged in the Kaladisatake deal. No, he

1062
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,239
didn't want that. No one likes to be leveraged. Okay,

1063
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,920
that's the situation right now. But I'll go back to

1064
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:16,639
and this is maybe a debate as the twelve seed,

1065
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:20,280
say BYU was the twelve seed, they would have received

1066
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,440
a they would have had to go on the road

1067
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,719
and faced Organ. Right, would you do you feel confident

1068
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,639
that you can beat Organ right now? As a BYU

1069
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:33,320
football team, or would you have taken an opportunity to

1070
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,760
beat Notre Dame in the Pop Tarts Bowl? Which one

1071
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,000
would you rather done? Is the question? That's a tough one, right,

1072
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,880
that's a tough one. You know that you and eventually

1073
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,360
you're gonna be You're gonna have to play Texas Tech. Right, Yeah,

1074
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,719
I don't know. I kind of I wish Notre Dame

1075
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,599
would have played this game, because I would have been

1076
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:56,440
more than satisfied with that opportunity as a former player,

1077
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,440
as a fan, as a media member, all those things,

1078
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,119
taking into account all the different in different.

1079
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,559
Speaker 1: Elements here that would associate it. Now you got Georgia Tech.

1080
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: I think Boa fans are still excited about the Georgia

1081
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,119
Tech game, right pop Tards Ball?

1082
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:12,679
Speaker 1: Are they not as excited? Are they still miffed?

1083
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,599
Speaker 3: Are they? Do they still feel like they were they

1084
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:21,519
were relegated to you know, the uh, you know, to

1085
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:26,679
the side and and not respected. Maybe possibly still feel

1086
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,199
a little bit disillusioned, still grumpy about this whole thing.

1087
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:32,039
Give me your theory, guys on why b YU was

1088
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:35,559
never included in the resume comparisons versus Alabama, Miami, Oklahoma,

1089
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,519
Notre Dame, Ole miss and Texas A and M. Guys.

1090
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Please don't go anywhere more to get you as we

1105
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delve into all the nuks and grantinges. College football playoff

1106
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:34,840
rankings are official. The bracket is set. My question is

1107
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,519
how many teams is the ideal number to expand to

1108
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,480
in order to make everybody happy. And we're not having

1109
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:43,840
this weeping and waving and gnashing the teeth at the

1110
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,239
end of the year. So all the big brands get in,

1111
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,960
all the money is retained within the power brokers, all

1112
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,280
of that is okay, and all the teams that have

1113
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,199
earned it are in what's that number. We'll be back

1114
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coming up next. This is Cougar Sports on one, O

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three nine nine the eight point three.

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Speaker 7: He