WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.679 You've created everything. What's put a powerful being? You are. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.480 You did these things, but now you're in a human body. 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.080 You forget the power you have. 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.000 What you do is what the whole universe is doing 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.440 at the place you call here, and now you are 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.839 something the whole universe is doing, in the same way 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing. 8 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:36.359 You're doing doing whatation. 9 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.079 Welcome to metamistics. 10 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.799 My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean. 11 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.960 And today is wonder wisday baby? It is that time. 12 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.359 Welcome all the one in on this conversation. This is 13 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.439 going to be a really really fun conversation, I think. 14 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.439 But we have a guest, and it's somebody that I've 15 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:02.240 been following a lot on on social media and everything 16 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:06.920 and just cannot wait to hear your perspective on all 17 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.159 of this stuff. Welcome to the show, Rupert. 18 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:12.560 Well, thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be here. 19 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:13.719 Of course. 20 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.879 Man, So now you I followed you on social media. 21 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.920 You have a your handle is orb Trek. 22 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.480 I believe orb Trek on TikTok. 23 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.280 Yes, yes, yes, And I can't get I could just 24 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.879 watch that stuff all day, mainly because we've all had 25 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:34.359 experiences with the orbs, you know, personally introduced by none 26 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:39.079 other than electro Nick at first, and uh, that's just Nick. 27 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:43.879 We call him electro Nick because it's awesome and and 28 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.959 and then we each had our own individual experiences as 29 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.599 well as far as seeing the orbs out there. Now, 30 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:51.680 I don't We definitely weren't going to the extent that 31 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.560 you were. But if you could, could you kind of, 32 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:58.400 you know, tell us about what you're doing and how 33 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.959 are you getting these orbs and essentially come out of 34 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:02.319 the ether. 35 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.760 Yeah. Well, I spend a good portion of my life 36 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:13.439 traveling around the US and sometimes other countries, trying to 37 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:19.439 promote the idea of universal peace, universal love, universal well being, 38 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:25.039 and to me, universal means all species, all conscious life 39 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.120 forms throughout the universe. And a big part of what 40 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.240 I do when I travel is I host contact events 41 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:38.039 so people can come and gather, and I will guide 42 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.360 people through meditations. We will astrally project out and we 43 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.719 will attempt to communicate with any beings who are out there. Now. 44 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:48.599 I've been doing this for quite a long time, and 45 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:54.759 I've become quite successful, and I now have various beings 46 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.360 who come around with me who associate with me and 47 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.639 that probably helps in what I do. But while I 48 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:08.919 was touring around, I heard that Bradshaw Runch in Sodona 49 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:16.520 was a central hot spot for paranormal alien activity, and 50 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.800 even though I was sort of in between two events, 51 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.240 I had to go as I was passing through the 52 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.560 area to Sodona to Bradshaw Runch, and so I turned 53 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.560 up there. It was about I think twelve thirty one 54 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.360 o'clock in the morning something like that. With my night 55 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:39.479 vision camera and as I'm scanning around, I've only been 56 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.000 there for about thirty seconds. I'm scanning around and as 57 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.280 I turn around to face the entrance to the ranch, 58 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:49.840 right there in front of me, hovering in front of me, 59 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.520 there is this blue orb and I was videoing it 60 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.599 very clearly. Now. At first I'm thinking, okay, is that 61 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.039 a lens flare? Is that a piece of fluff or 62 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.879 something floating around? And so I wasn't quite sure. But 63 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.439 then I started to talk to it and I said hello, 64 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.840 and as soon as I had said hello, it responded 65 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.240 and came down to me. And then I had about 66 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:17.519 a minute of conversation with this orb and it seemed 67 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.600 to be sort of moving towards me, moving away from me, 68 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.160 almost like in a yes no way to my questions. 69 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.560 And then when I finally said, okay, I'm going to 70 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.720 come a little closer to you, it flew right past 71 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:32.160 my head. 72 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.600 Wow, okay, all right, so there's definitely some sort of 73 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:39.399 intelligence going on there. 74 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.920 Then it's it seems to me, you know, I'm actually 75 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.480 my backgrounds as a space scientist, and so I can 76 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:52.240 analyze things in a relatively scientific way, and it you know, 77 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.639 there there were moths, They were insects that I captured 78 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.160 on the video camera, some near, some far, but they 79 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:03.199 were all perfectly or not perfectly, but almost in focus. 80 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:10.360 But this orb maintained a diffuse volume of something, whether 81 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:15.399 it's gaseous or plasmic, throughout the whole thing, whether it 82 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.600 was near or far to me, And so I have 83 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.560 to deduce that this was some kind of a unknown 84 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:26.920 to me, conscious entity, conscious life on. 85 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:28.759 Wow. 86 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:29.879 That is awesome. 87 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.560 How far away would you say that this orb was? 88 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:37.160 Initially it was probably about ten feet away when I 89 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:40.600 first started videoing it, and then it came right past 90 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.480 my head, only maybe a foot away from me. 91 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:48.160 Oh my god, that is close. Do you feel like 92 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.560 there was any kind of maybe energy field that it 93 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.879 was putting off. Did it affect you physically at all 94 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:54.839 getting close to it? 95 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:03.319 Well, when beings come close to me, I typically will 96 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:09.279 have physiological symptoms like changes in air pressure. I will 97 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.519 feel like the air pressure suddenly changes, or high pitched 98 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:18.680 tones ringing in my ears. Sometimes my muscles start twitching 99 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.560 in odd places, like my eyebrow will start twitching. Things 100 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.439 like that. And when I was I had to walk 101 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.519 to Bradshaw Ranch because the road in is a dirt track, 102 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.160 really really hard to get to, even with a four 103 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.399 wheel drive, and so my vehicle couldn't handle it. I 104 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.480 was walking in. I got to about maybe a third 105 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.879 of a mile away, and I started to feel the 106 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:46.319 presence of something, some consciousness, some paranormal entity or extra 107 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.920 dimensional entity. And when I was when I arrived, I 108 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.560 was feeling that too. So I was definitely feeling like 109 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.879 I was in the presence of something unusual. I definitely 110 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.199 felt like they knew I was there. But when I 111 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:06.800 was directly interacting with it, I can't say that I Okay, 112 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.600 I'm feeling something around me right now, I can't say 113 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:16.839 that in the moment I felt the presence of the orb. 114 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:21.800 I was just feeling a general presence of something there. 115 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:27.240 Oh man, that is intense, so awesome too. So just 116 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:33.680 out of curiosity, do you label you know what kind 117 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:37.000 of beings these could be? You know, some people call 118 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.279 on the Pleadians, on the tall Whites, on the andromedins, 119 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.120 in all the different flavors. What are your thoughts or 120 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.160 is it all of them? 121 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.319 It's a good number of them. I know the tall Whites, 122 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.199 I know some by name. I've been invited out there 123 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:57.279 into the desert north west of Las Vegas to camp 124 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:03.199 with them. I've done that. I videoed craft the Pleadeans. 125 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.000 They do show their support to what I'm doing. Usually 126 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.439 I have like shards of light show up a male 127 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:12.639 and a female Pleadean. But I've never really had conversations 128 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.079 with them in the same way that I do with 129 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:22.040 other beings. Ebans, I know some ebons, mantis, beings, reptilians even, 130 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:28.720 and the ones that are pay pay particular attention to me. 131 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:34.360 I call tall silvers. Tall silvers are often seen behind me, 132 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:41.440 usually three really tall looking silver gray beings. But yeah, 133 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.840 I have I have a lot of different entities that 134 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:45.000 I interact. 135 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:48.039 With that is awesome. How are you able to distinguish 136 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.000 between them? I mean, are you seeing I mean is 137 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.960 it some kind of like a teleopathic telepathic kind of communication. 138 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.039 Are you able to see their physical form? Are they 139 00:08:58.399 --> 00:08:59.159 can you hear them? 140 00:08:59.200 --> 00:08:59.480 Like? How? 141 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:00.879 How does that transfer happen? 142 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:06.000 Well, it's a good question because you know, it's easy 143 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:11.840 to imagine stuff and sometimes you just can't tell if 144 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.600 somebody who is who claims to be in contact with beings, 145 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:21.519 if they really are, or if it's imagination. And I 146 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.679 go back to me being a scientist, I need proof 147 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.600 of things before I will accept them as a being true. 148 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.960 So what I found is that if I experience something 149 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:37.080 just by myself, I've learnt to trust my own feelings 150 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.840 to maybe about eighty percent. But I can't get proof 151 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:47.879 of anything unless it's a shared experience with others. So 152 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.159 I will host meetings two or three times a week, 153 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:54.519 just like you're doing, like zoom meetings with maybe fifteen 154 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.840 to twenty people, in which I will guide people through 155 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:02.200 astral projections and remote communication with different beings, and then 156 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:06.480 afterwards we will talk about what did we all perceive, 157 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:13.440 And very often there are several people in the Zoom 158 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.120 meeting who experience or witness the same thing, Like we 159 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.759 just saw an extraterrestrial entity that was like vortex shape, 160 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:28.320 semi transparent with baby vortex is around it. And when 161 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.799 I asked, what is your name, it said tuk tuk. 162 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:34.679 When you have five or six people all having all 163 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:39.360 of those shared experiences, you know you've got logical proof 164 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.960 that you're having a real shared experience. So I'm very 165 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:47.200 cautious about what I claim to know, but I do 166 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:52.360 know a lot. 167 00:10:55.519 --> 00:11:00.200 It's interesting that people can have shared experiences like that, 168 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.480 and that's something that even the earliest like remote viewers 169 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.320 would say that, you know, there's a wild story. And 170 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:10.639 I can never remember their names, but the earliest remote 171 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.639 viewers in the CIA program, they were it was just 172 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.399 two of them. They went into two separate rooms. They 173 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:21.080 were trying to see if their visions essentially would be 174 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:26.200 able to be like a shared experience. And they didn't hear, 175 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:28.679 you know, one another at all. They were they were 176 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.480 able to say, yeah, like we saw the same thing. 177 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:36.200 We talked together on this remote planet. They described the 178 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.320 same exact type of being, the same language that was 179 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.960 coming off, and it's like it's it goes beyond the 180 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.440 mind and beyond the realm of understanding how this can 181 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.879 be possible. But I think in this day and age, 182 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.919 it's it probably used to be considered crazy, right, Like 183 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.840 for the majority of people, it probably seem like, oh, 184 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.879 you're communicating with aliens in your mind, all right. You 185 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:00.960 used to be you had to go into a padded 186 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.799 room for that kind of conversation. But nowadays, people I 187 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.519 feel like, are a lot more open to these kind 188 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:10.559 of experiences, and especially with just your everyday people are 189 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.679 that are able to go outside and have some kind 190 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:19.200 of contact with the orbs. And it's it's hard to 191 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:21.960 just explain away because you know, whenever you look up 192 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.200 in the sky, that's not an airplane, that's not a satellite, 193 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.120 that's not SpaceX, you know what I mean, Like, it's 194 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:32.519 not anything that would be human made, because it's just 195 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:37.480 acting very strange. And I had a wild experience, like 196 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.320 a few months ago, we went camping, Me and the 197 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.000 kids all went camping, and I wasn't seeing anything, but 198 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.080 I was like, I just asked a question. Were I 199 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:47.279 was sitting out by the fire and I just asked 200 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:49.279 a question. I was like, man, it would be really 201 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.240 cool if the kids would if the kids could experience this, 202 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.240 you know, could you just show me that that would 203 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.440 be really awesome. And when you know what, we saw 204 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.639 twenty one orbs in the span of like an hour. 205 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.080 It was it was like crazy traffic going on up there. 206 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:04.759 How was like, how is this happening? 207 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:06.639 Yeah? 208 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.200 Yeah, and it was really strange. And the kids where 209 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:09.960 they loved it. 210 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:10.399 You know. 211 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.919 I was like, they were saying, oh, is that aliens? 212 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:16.039 And I was like, it ain't humans. So I don't 213 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:19.679 call that whatever you want. But how did you first 214 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.639 get involved in on this? By the way, Like you 215 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.200 said that you're a space scientist, what got you into 216 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.399 this in the first place? Did you have a personal 217 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.480 experience that that really teeded it off. 218 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:36.519 I think all of this started really out of me 219 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:41.320 being very empathic. I realized as a child that I 220 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:47.159 cared to a very high level about other people, other animals. 221 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.440 If I would see a fly hurt, it would make 222 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.159 me cry. And so I set out trying to solve 223 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.720 all of the world's problems when I was just a 224 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.080 little kid, and I realized, well, how can you solve 225 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:02.960 the world's problems if you don't understand the problems? So 226 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.879 the first step is understanding reality. And in order to 227 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.759 understand reality, not only was I going out researching ghosts 228 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:14.759 and the Lockless Monster and spirits and orbs and healing, 229 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:19.480 but I went into science because with science you can 230 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.879 actually prove and verify things in ways that sometimes you 231 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.639 can't with the paranormal. That's how I got into all 232 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.840 of this. So I've been doing this a long time. 233 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.000 And what I personally have found is that the more 234 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:41.480 you apply logical scientific methodologies to the paranormal, to anything spiritual, 235 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.000 to anything alien, the more you start to see the 236 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.840 patterns of reality. And those patterns of reality do like 237 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.679 jigsaw puzzles, fit together to form a coherent picture. And 238 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.960 that's what I feel like. You know, I don't know everything, 239 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.440 but I feel like I've now got a fairly coherent 240 00:14:58.519 --> 00:14:59.879 picture about reality. 241 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.679 Well, reality is stranger than fiction, you know, and that's 242 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:04.840 where we're discovering. 243 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:06.559 Going to find out. Man. You know, when I was 244 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.440 when I was younger, you know, I would say, even 245 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.080 maybe within the last five years, you know, before we 246 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:14.279 even started looking really researching all of this stuff, I 247 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:16.159 would go outside, and you know, back when I used 248 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.639 to smoke cigarette still, and I would look up in 249 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:21.440 the sky, and I would never see any orb or 250 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.200 anything that that I couldn't explain. It was always an airplane. 251 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:27.840 It was always something that was not alien. And then 252 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:30.240 all of a sudden, you know, we're doing this show 253 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.600 and then Electro Nick, you know, he comes out and 254 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.720 he shows me one and I'm like, oh, wow, like 255 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.919 I've never seen this before in my life, and ever 256 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.000 since now it's just a thing that I that I'm 257 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:44.279 able to observe an experience. Is that something that is 258 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.759 pretty common with what you're you've been doing as far 259 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:53.559 as once someone sees something, now that it's more more frequent, Yeah. 260 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:55.919 And I think you can you kind of build up 261 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:01.480 a personal relationship with non human entities. They realize, oh, 262 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:05.840 this person is interested. Sometimes they realize, oh, not only 263 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.159 is this person interested, but they're they're spreading the word 264 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:14.000 about their experiences. And the fact that you're here now 265 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.399 telling the public about your experiences that might have interested 266 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.679 them and assisted in that community in that communication. 267 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:23.960 Wow, dude, that's awesome. 268 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.240 If we don't live in some kind of magical realm 269 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:31.159 or matrix, Like, who would have ever thought that one 270 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:32.879 day you'd be able to look up in the sky 271 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:37.120 and oh yeah, there's extraterrestrials from other planets and all 272 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.200 you have to do is just like spiritually connect to 273 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:41.840 them and then all of a sudden, like they're homeboys. 274 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.639 Like that sounds crazy out loud, right, but like the 275 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.759 world we live in, but that's what's going on. And 276 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:50.879 and the people out there that will say, oh, that's 277 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.200 just government tech that they don't want us knowing about, 278 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:55.840 I don't buy it. I mean, I'm sure that government 279 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.200 has their own reverse engineered stuff with Boeing and all 280 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.600 that other stuff, right, but these things seem to be 281 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:05.839 able to communicate with your thoughts. And I don't know 282 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:07.960 if the government has that kind of tech. 283 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.519 Yet, you know, I hope not. 284 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.240 I mean from from such a far away distance. So 285 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.559 I mean you were talking about you can essentially, like 286 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.920 you know, maybe convince them to move a little bit closer, 287 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.839 a little bit farther away. Yeah, that is that is impressive. 288 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:24.799 So, just out of. 289 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.240 Curiosity, what were I mean, what are like some of 290 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.400 the messages that you've received from I mean, are the 291 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:34.319 messages different from from each species? 292 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:35.119 I guess. 293 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:41.880 They're actually fairly consistent the messages. They're fairly supportive the 294 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:47.519 ones that I connect with of of positive human development. 295 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.039 And there are three main messages that they tend to give, 296 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.200 not just to me, but they've been given they've been 297 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:59.680 giving to humanity for many decades. There's one of the 298 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.440 first messages, nuclear weapons not so great. 299 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:03.880 Agreed. 300 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:09.680 The second message is environmental. All around the planet, people 301 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:13.000 has shown images of a future in which there is 302 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:19.039 environmental devastation. It's very, very common. I've had maybe ten 303 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:23.079 different beings give me basically the same message, showing us 304 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:28.079 visions and it's been going on from school children to 305 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:35.240 grown you know, adults for seventy years at least. That's 306 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.240 the second message. The third message is just be nice 307 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:44.359 to each other. Yeah, Unfortunately, humanity doesn't listen to any 308 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:45.039 of the messages. 309 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.079 And I think the being nice to each other is 310 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.319 probably the hardest one for humanity to swallow. 311 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:53.880 Well, it's the hardest one for humanity to swallow when 312 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:58.680 they lack empathy or they lack the motivation to try 313 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.920 to at least understand and other people. I think that's 314 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:03.960 a hard thing for people to try to do. You know, 315 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.440 if somebody believes really hardcore and something that you totally 316 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.119 don't believe in, then you can see why. I guess 317 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.440 that would be a hard thing. But you know, you 318 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.400 don't have to believe in what other people believe in. 319 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.319 I think you just need to just have some type 320 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.400 of understanding and empathy for that, you know, and move on. 321 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.119 Just stay open minded at least. 322 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:24.960 That's it. That's it. 323 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:30.160 Yeah, yeah, So just I have a crazy question. Have 324 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:35.799 you ever asked if maybe that's what you were before 325 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.200 you incarnated it as a human? 326 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:42.799 Yeah? I mean I've explored all possibilities and what I've 327 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:49.240 pieced together for myself personally, is I was born human. 328 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.839 I'm fairly convinced of that. I've done the ancestry, I've 329 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:58.720 done the DNA testing. Was I started off human. But 330 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.960 the the more I interacted with these beings and they 331 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.400 liked what I was doing, the more interested they became 332 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.440 in me, and they started to I call it enhance me. 333 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.279 And people would see psychic people would see around me, 334 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.680 beings and they'd start putting their hands on my forehead. 335 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:26.880 And this is many different psychic people who don't know 336 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.839 each other, in different times, in different locations, saying, Rupert, 337 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.079 there's a being that's doing this to your forehead. What's 338 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:37.880 going on and when we asked what is happening to 339 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.680 different beings? We asked the different beings what is happening? 340 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:46.279 They said, We're strengthening you, We're supporting you, we're enhancing you. 341 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.839 And often in my meetings they will ask us, is 342 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.599 that okay if we do some more enhancement. So what 343 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.640 is happening to me is my spirit is being altered. 344 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:03.400 I am no longer spiritually completely human. I guess I'm 345 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:13.799 a hybrid spirit now. And it's gonna sound crazy, but 346 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.759 after after this biological body dies, I'm going to come 347 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:23.200 back into another body, and either either the next time 348 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.440 or the time after that, the body that I go 349 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:31.400 into is going to be my my hybrid child, ah 350 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:37.079 that I have with a tall silver female whom I've 351 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:39.519 already met, because she's traveled back from the future to 352 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:42.519 meet me and she's keeping she's supporting me and protecting 353 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:45.519 me to enable this to happen in the future. 354 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.920 My god, that's that's only something we can all hope. 355 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:51.880 You know what I'm saying. 356 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.279 There's there's like some crazy extraterrestrial like space wife that 357 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:58.440 we have out there that is just like waiting in 358 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:01.319 the wings for for us to I don't know, maybe 359 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:02.960 she's just guiding us or something like that. 360 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:04.960 Did you happen to catch her name? 361 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:12.799 No, we haven't got the name. She sometimes comes in 362 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.920 and she's really really tall, like nine or ten feet tall, 363 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.000 and she often hovers at an angle above me like this, 364 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.400 and she will put a protective field around me, some 365 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.240 kind of force field. And people whom I've known for many, 366 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.519 many years who are psychic sometimes I've got a good 367 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.079 friend in close to Kansas City who when I do 368 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.160 contact events with her in the group, she will feel 369 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.200 the energy of the group and she'll come and position 370 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.759 herself in a sort of a fung shway type of 371 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.119 energy balancing way to maximize the effectiveness of our contact. 372 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.640 And when this you know, wife from the future shows 373 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.960 up and puts her protective feels around me, she loses 374 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:01.920 that connection. She can't sense me at all. You know, 375 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.839 it's not a negative thing, it's a protective thing. But 376 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:06.960 but people feel it and people see it. 377 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:12.400 Yeah, that is oh man, my boy wizard said, does 378 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:13.279 she have a sister? 379 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:21.079 Well, you know, she doesn't look human, so I can't. 380 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.519 I can't say that I'm ready to propose yet, shall 381 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:25.839 we say? 382 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:31.200 Hey, I give your time in Russian in these things 383 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:33.119 you would you be able to. 384 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:38.000 Before I ask this question, is this is this comparable 385 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.559 to or is it a CE five kind of event 386 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.799 that's going on that you're doing out there whenever you 387 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:45.680 gather in groups. 388 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:52.519 Well, unfortunately, CE five has become quite controversial. Jacques Valet 389 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.279 was the first person to introduce a close encounter of 390 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.720 the fifth kind and his version of what CE five 391 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:07.759 is completely different to other people's. And so Moufon likes 392 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.480 his close Encounters of the fifth kind definition, and they 393 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:16.759 go with his definition. And I find that if people 394 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.160 ever say, oh, you're doing C five and I say, well, 395 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:23.680 I'm not following the same protocols that you're following, they say, oh, 396 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.599 well you're not doing CT five. So I no longer 397 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:33.519 use that terminology. But essentially it is comparable because it 398 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:38.359 is using our conscious minds to reach out to connect 399 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:43.119 psychically or consciously with other other different beings that are 400 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:43.559 out there. 401 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.119 Okay, all right, and just out of curiosity for anybody 402 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.920 that is unaware of what CE five is, like, what 403 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.799 is your process? So you get a group together, you 404 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.160 all meet a specific spot. What's the first thing you do? 405 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:00.880 Yeah? Well, it can be in person or in a 406 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:05.279 zoom meeting like this. The first stage is to relax, 407 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.240 So in meditation we relax. There's nothing magical about that. 408 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.480 It's just letting go of tensions. But then it goes deeper, 409 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:18.200 it goes into the mind. It is relaxing our mind. 410 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:23.200 I personally like to then try and expel dark feelings, 411 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.599 dark thoughts. So if you've got any hatred towards anybody, 412 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.720 we ascend above that. We push out the darknesses. I 413 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.559 also like to connect. We then tune into our spiritual bodies, 414 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:40.359 our spiritual beings or our ultra dimensional bodies. And then 415 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.319 everything I do is sort of peace and love based. 416 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:47.000 So we feel the love within us, we extend it 417 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:51.319 to the other people in the group, and to the 418 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.319 extent that is possible for human beings. We become a collective. 419 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.920 We connect in a non discriminatory way, and we fall 420 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.640 a friendly, connected environment that is welcoming to whoever we're 421 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:09.759 going to invite in. And then you know, at that stage, 422 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.279 often they're already with me because they know me. But 423 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:17.920 that's but then I guide people to take pull their 424 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.839 consciousnesses to whichever beings we want to connect with. We 425 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:27.160 sort of pull ourselves in astral projection type way to them, 426 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.480 and we walk up to them respectfully, and then we 427 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.319 initiate a conversation with them. And sometimes we just have 428 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.640 a conversation remotely, like when I go to their galactic council, 429 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.480 we go into their space craft, we have a seat 430 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:45.240 on at their table. That's all remote. It happens in 431 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.559 their craft. But sometimes we then invite them to come 432 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.480 back physically and then we might start seeing things in 433 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.200 the sky or feeling beings around us. 434 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.839 Oh man, I want to do something like this so bad. Yeah. 435 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.880 I think it would just be the funnest thing, the 436 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.480 most awesome thing to do for the bunch of us. 437 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:08.480 Dude to see that the galactic table. I mean, what 438 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.079 goes on at that table? Is it like, like, what 439 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.960 kind of conversations are being had? I mean, is it 440 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.480 sticking with the main three things that are always talked 441 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:18.519 about or is it more. 442 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.759 Of like a in depth kind of plan. 443 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:21.960 Is there no communication? 444 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:22.880 What is that like? 445 00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:29.640 Yeah, well it's an interesting backstory. Two or three years ago, 446 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.440 I had several people in my groups contact me independently 447 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.480 and say, Hey, Rupert, I don't know who that What's 448 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.359 quite what's going on. Some aliens calling themselves the Galactic 449 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:42.799 Council said that I have a seat at the Galactic 450 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.480 Council table and that I should get in touch with them. 451 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.759 So we all remote, we all astley projected there together 452 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.319 and we got in touch with them, and they said, yeah, 453 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.119 this is this is true, this is real. We like 454 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.319 what you're doing, we support what you're doing. You can 455 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.799 come here whenever you like. So we go there about 456 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.160 once a week in a group, and it can be 457 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.640 anything anything. It can be getting to know each other. 458 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:10.000 We look around, we learn about the different species. I'm 459 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.359 going to them tomorrow evening, and what we're going to 460 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.599 be doing tomorrow evening is we're trying to set up 461 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:20.640 in person meetings in coffee shops with hybrids and human 462 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:26.599 human looking non non humans tomorrow evening. So we're asking 463 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:31.079 for the Galactic Council's assistance with that. But it really 464 00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.839 can be anything. We go there, we meditate with them, 465 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:39.440 we ask for personal messages, we ask for guidance on 466 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:46.759 certain issues like nuclear weapons, for example, and yeah, it 467 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.279 could be anything, anything that I feel like doing on 468 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.319 that particular day. They're very accommodating. 469 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.720 Oh that is so awesome, and it makes you wonder, 470 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.119 just like, you know, do you believe that is it 471 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.720 governments or having seats at these tables? I mean, are 472 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.200 there any politicians or anything like that involved, or is 473 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.680 it more of like a person a person's spirit to 474 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.319 spirit kind of thing. It doesn't necessarily matter what your 475 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:18.440 title or your level of importance on a world realm is. 476 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.839 That's a good question. A lot of the success that 477 00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.240 I have, the connections that I've been able to make, 478 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:32.119 I put down to my motivations for doing what I 479 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.519 do and what I want. What I'm trying to do 480 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:40.000 is to make friends with them, to bridge a peaceful 481 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.680 gap between us so that we can move forwards in 482 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:49.839 a peaceful, constructive, positive way. But when you listen to 483 00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.799 people in the government who claim to have connections with 484 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.519 these beings, and I'm sure that a lot of them do, 485 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.400 that's not there. Gender, that's not that's not on the 486 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.720 list of why people are openly saying we want disclosure. 487 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.079 A lot of people want their technology. That's not a 488 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.839 good way to enter into a friendship with somebody. Hey, 489 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:14.799 I'd like to be friends with you because you've got 490 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:15.599 something I want. 491 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:16.480 M M. 492 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:18.319 Yeah. 493 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.680 Some people go to them and say we we need 494 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.799 we need them to solve our energy crisis and problems. Well, 495 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.119 I'm a scientist, and I know that we've had all 496 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:34.519 of the energy generating technology, very simple energy technology, generating 497 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.839 technology that we need in order to solve our energy problem. 498 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:43.480 That's not why we've got an energy problem. So you 499 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.720 know when we go and ask them, hey, can you 500 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.079 save us from ourselves? It's like they're like, how can 501 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.079 we do that? If we were to try and save 502 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:53.960 you from yourselves, we'd have to change you. And you're 503 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.240 not going to let that happen, aren't you? 504 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:57.559 You have so right? 505 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.440 Yeah, yeah, that's you know. 506 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.000 What's interesting is a few weeks ago, I have another 507 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.880 podcast called The Cult of Conspiracy, and we did an 508 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.480 episode on this thing called the Griata Treaty that was 509 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:14.480 back in I think nineteen fifty seven if I'm not mistaken, 510 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.599 or forties or fifties. I'm terrible, terrible with years. But 511 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.079 either way, there was a Griada Treaty supposedly back whenever 512 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.359 Dwight Eisenhower was president, and there was I guess a 513 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.799 group of aliens. I believe he was calling them the 514 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.440 Nordics or the Tall Whites, something along those lines, and 515 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.200 which it was the Nordics, I think so. 516 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.319 Yeah. 517 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:44.240 So the Nordics proposed a plan to go into some 518 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:50.400 kind of agreement with our government, and I guess Eisenhower 519 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.720 turned it down. But the one that he did accept 520 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.000 was the agreement with the Little Grays. 521 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:57.960 And that was mainly. 522 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:03.799 The agreement as far as like technology goes, that if 523 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.039 if the Grays were able to abduct a couple of 524 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.279 humans every so often, take some cows every so often, 525 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.799 we're not gonna hurt the humans, even though that can 526 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:17.000 be debated. A lot of abductions aren't always great, right, 527 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.359 and uh and and and so they said that, you know, 528 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.279 as long as they could take some humans and some 529 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.279 cows and livestock and stuff like that, then we'll give 530 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.160 you over some technology. Well, from what I understand is 531 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.720 is that the Little Grays went kind of above their means. 532 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.039 Because these are just humans. What are we going to 533 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.039 make a fair deal with them or something. I don't 534 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.359 know what your opinion is on the Little Grays. I've 535 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.079 heard very differing ideas about what they are, what they 536 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:48.559 could be. Maybe they're kind of like they're biological entities, 537 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.279 but almost robot like. Maybe they're kind of like drone 538 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.079 entities for another species. Maybe they're you know what some 539 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.240 people might refer to as demons. Uh, what are your 540 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.640 what are your thoughts on grays and have you had 541 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.759 any you know, run ins with them? 542 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.640 Yeah, another good question. You know. Out of the main 543 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.079 I would say probably the five main species that have 544 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:18.160 a physical biological presence that are commonly seen around our planet, 545 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.519 Grays are the only ones that don't actively welcome contact 546 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.039 with me. So when I when I move myself to 547 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:32.240 them and say, hey, listen, I'm I'm here on behalf 548 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.680 of a friend of mine, who's who's whom you're taking 549 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.559 onto your craft doing abductions, they will sort of turn 550 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.519 around and look at me and it's like, we don't 551 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.160 want to talk to you, and they you know that 552 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.440 they're not violent or anything, but they back away or 553 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:53.759 they push us away, so you know they're there are 554 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.480 the short grays, but then they are the taller masters, 555 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:02.559 and there's a variety of different taller master's, taller Grays, 556 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:10.880 tall pinks, and we do occasionally go and connect with 557 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.440 them and talk to the taller ones. They're the ones 558 00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.320 that are in charge and When we do that, they 559 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.920 do listen to us, and we say, hey, listen, can 560 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:26.280 we have a peaceful conversation with you? And we tell them, hey, listen, 561 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.440 we've got like twenty people in our group who would 562 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.480 love to be abducted, who would love to help you out, 563 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.199 but voluntarily and retaining our memories, that to us is 564 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:40.760 a more moral way, a more acceptable way of contributing 565 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:46.400 to to your reproductive programs. And we try and explain 566 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.800 to them that being taken against our will without our 567 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:54.679 consent is not okay to us. And they listen. And 568 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.480 I don't know that we're making much progress with them, 569 00:34:58.519 --> 00:34:59.960 but that's one of the things we try to do. 570 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.519 Well, Hey, you know, all you can do is really 571 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:04.719 just make an effort, you know. 572 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.280 Yeah, this is all just so wild. 573 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.960 I mean, is there do you have a favorite that 574 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:13.119 you come in contact with? 575 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.199 Is it ever? You know what I mean? 576 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.400 Like, is there somebody that you're like, you know, the 577 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.480 mantis being right, you know, but you know, the the 578 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.400 any other kind that you would prefer or are they 579 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:25.400 all just pretty cool? 580 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.599 I think I might get in trouble if I if 581 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:33.639 I openly talk about having a favorite. I welcome all 582 00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:40.000 contact with all of these beings, there is an extraterrestrial 583 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.880 that we connect with, because you know the ones the 584 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.599 humanoids are, it's debatable whether you can call them extraterrestrial. 585 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.559 But there's a true extraterrestrial and I mentioned her before. 586 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.719 We call her Tuk Tuk, and she lives on a 587 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.719 far off, distant ocean world and she's just loving, caring 588 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.639 and pathic and healing. So we go to her quite 589 00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.880 often as a group and also as individuals and connect 590 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:14.039 with this being who Who. When we are meditating and 591 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.480 focusing on our own healings, she will come in and 592 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.800 put her healing energies on us. Her colleagues are trained 593 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.760 healers as well, and her children like to join in 594 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.360 and we get healing from her. She's very loving and 595 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.400 very warm, and so that's a special relationship. 596 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.360 Shout out to Tuk Tuk, Yeah, shout out, yeah, Yeah, 597 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.400 that is really awesome. I mean, are you are you 598 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.639 of the belief that these beings are on planets within 599 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.440 the universe that we live in? Are they from another dimension? 600 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.480 Is it another dream or something like that? Like where 601 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.000 do you think they are actually from? 602 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.280 Yeah? A good question, you know. To answer that question, 603 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:04.679 you kind of have to agree on what are we 604 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.880 meaning by like words like universe. Like if you if 605 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:12.599 your definition of universe is one of everything, then everything's 606 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.079 in the same universe. What I will say is that 607 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.079 a lot of people don't get dimensions. A dimension is 608 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:25.079 a direction, not a place. Forwards and backwards, that's a direction. 609 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:29.400 That's a dimension, left and right, that's that's that's a dimension, 610 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:33.079 a direction. So your first two dimensions are x and y. 611 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.480 Your third dimension would be z x y Z. These 612 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.440 are dimensions, not places. So when we talk about ultra 613 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:49.920 dimensional spaces, we're we're not going to a completely separate location. 614 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:55.440 We're just going into an extension of our reality that 615 00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.159 has more dimensions, more spatial dimensions. 616 00:37:59.239 --> 00:37:59.840 That makes sense. 617 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:08.719 And we ourselves are ultradimensional, we have more than three dimensions. 618 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:15.400 Our spiritual bodies do extend outwards into ultradimensional spaces. And 619 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.639 that's how you know, we can connect with the consciousness 620 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.039 network in the universe, We can connect with each other. 621 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:27.480 We can perceive things throughout ultradimensional space and in the universe, 622 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:34.639 but also through time. So where do these beings come from? 623 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:39.320 You know, all around the universe there are that there 624 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.440 is the physical dimension and physical beings usually start off 625 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.440 being rooted in the physical beings do evolve all around 626 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:54.199 the universe. When they evolve, when they grow, when they develop, 627 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.480 they're also growing the spiritual components of them as well. 628 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.360 There's an interdimensional force between the spiritual and the physical. 629 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.559 So like if we look at our if we look 630 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:11.079 at the spirit of a dog that comes, you know, back, 631 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.800 a psychic sees they see a dog looking spirit because 632 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.960 that's that spirit was attached to the physical dog in 633 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:25.039 that form. So all around the universe, you've got countless 634 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.679 trillions of extraterrestrial beings that have physical bodies and spiritual bodies. 635 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:39.280 Some of them develop the technology to move physically transdimensionally 636 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.880 like and some of them gain the natural ability. Bigfoot 637 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.039 probably is just doing that naturally, for example, into into 638 00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:53.960 transdimensional Yeah, but the aliens we see in spacecraft or 639 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.320 some kind of craft that they're doing it technologically a 640 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:03.440 lot of the time. The the beings that we see 641 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:08.599 around us, the humanoids, their ancestry is complicated because they 642 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.079 do have terrestrial DNA and we have when we analyze 643 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.920 the mummified remains of these beings, we can analyze the 644 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.440 DNA and we can see that. You know, they have 645 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:24.719 terrestrial DNA, but it's not it doesn't fit. Their genomes 646 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:28.320 don't fit on the natural evolutionary tree of life. They've 647 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:33.119 been engineered. I mean, you can't get a reptilian, you 648 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:40.360 can't get a like a human with reptile naturally interbreeding. 649 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:47.480 That's a genetic engineering things. So amantis beings. So are 650 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.280 most of these humanoids. And what happened was hundreds of 651 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:56.159 thousands of years ago. You have some consciousnesses that created 652 00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.559 those genetic bodies as in ron suits, out of the 653 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.079 existing DNA that's already adapted for this planet so that 654 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.119 they can interact on this planet. The origin of those 655 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:17.320 consciousnesses that I don't know exactly, but it's either through time, 656 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:24.639 travelers through time, or it's travelers through space extraterrestrials, or 657 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.519 it's natural evolution. And that could very well be what 658 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.119 happened before they started genetic engineering. And I don't know 659 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:31.920 the answer to that. 660 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.440 Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. It's 661 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.199 almost like one of my favorite quotes, I believe doctor 662 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.119 Stephen Greer said it, where he said, it's not about 663 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.760 where they're coming from, it's when they're coming from. And 664 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.840 that has been always something that is stuck with me, 665 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.920 because we do have very limited capabilities as far as 666 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.599 our senses go, right, I mean, of course your sixth sense, 667 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:56.960 that's another thing. But as far as the five senses go, 668 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.199 I mean, we can only see what is it, point 669 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.239 zero zero three five percent of the light spectrum or 670 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.360 it's so minute, right, And and obviously our other senses 671 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.320 are really just designed to be able to kind of 672 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.760 be able to survive in disreality real right, right, And 673 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.480 so it would make sense that we would only be 674 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:27.239 able to communicate with beings from other time, not other 675 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:32.000 times another other wins I guess, or or just here 676 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.119 or whatever. It would make sense that we would only 677 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.960 be able to communicate with them through the spirit in 678 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.639 that sense. And so the idea of going into a 679 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.880 meditative state or psychedelic state. 680 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.199 Or even in your sleep or or. 681 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.599 Hypnotic state whatever, it does seem to check out at 682 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.320 least from a you know, a five or six senses 683 00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.239 kind of type of deal, you know, absolutely, I think, 684 00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.599 so I do have a question them. So, all throughout 685 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:08.079 human history, people have worshiped gods, gods, deities, you know, 686 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.800 the old ones, the new ones, and everyone in between, 687 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:15.000 do you believe, by any chance, and I don't know 688 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.679 if there's a right or wrong answer with this, but 689 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.679 just of your opinion, do you believe that the ancient 690 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:27.559 people were possibly looking at these entities, these extraterrestrials as 691 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:28.960 almost as gods. 692 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.519 Yeah. Absolutely, I you know, it's been estimated that humans 693 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:41.480 throughout excuse me, throughout history have worshiped over eighteen thousand 694 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:47.360 different gods and deities, and I am certain that a 695 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.880 lot of those gods and deities were aliens or extraterrestrials, 696 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:58.280 non human entities that were visiting the planet or even 697 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:04.800 living in on the planet, and they saw them. They 698 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.320 back then didn't have a concept of what the universe was, 699 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.840 and you know, this was a planet and there were 700 00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:16.519 other planets out there, and they interpreted these beings through 701 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.039 their existing ideas and beliefs. And I'm certain that a 702 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.559 lot of our I mean things like angels and demons, 703 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.480 that's very probably pleaadians and grays, you. 704 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:32.000 Know, I agree, Yeah, yeah, it makes most It makes 705 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.760 a lot of sense if you really think about it, 706 00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.880 because how is it that nobody talked about aliens up 707 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.960 until like one hundred years ago or one hundred and 708 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.880 fifty years ago or whatever it was. Yet almost everybody 709 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.519 has talked about spirits from the other realm, gods from 710 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.159 the other realm, angels, demons, gin whatever. Right, everybody has 711 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.159 some kind of title that they can name and put 712 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.840 into a box for an entity on the other side 713 00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.760 of which we can't really know the agenda or the communication, 714 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.000 you know what I mean, And so it would make 715 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.360 sense that you would put it into that kind of box, 716 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:07.719 especially if it's a spiritual thing. 717 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.920 Yeah, it's interesting. I've recently done a deep dive into elves, 718 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.119 and if you look at old Germanic mythologies and going 719 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:25.840 back to Norse mythologies, there were two types of elf. 720 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:32.239 One were tall light elves that were basically good, and 721 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.719 the others were short, dark elves that lived under the 722 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:39.679 ground and were basically bad. And they were associated with 723 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:46.360 elf disks and elf wheels, which scholars have interpreted as 724 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.920 being the sun. But when you think about it, you 725 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.599 know these these elves was the elves were said to 726 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.840 move through the sky, and these elf wheels and elf 727 00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:01.880 discs are very likely flying sources. Same with ancient Egypt. 728 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.639 You've got a discs behind the heads of a lot 729 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:11.199 of those alien looking beings, and that's where halos, the 730 00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:15.880 idea of halos come from. The temples all have a 731 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:22.800 winged disc in their entrances, a flying disc. These ancient 732 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.519 egypt beings, like the Lyron looking beings, these are beings 733 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.559 that are literally associated with flying sources. 734 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.119 You know what, It's funny you mentioned that, because it 735 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.639 used to be that would be all you would see 736 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.159 in the sky. Whenever people would talk about UFOs, you 737 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.360 would only hear about the flying discs, right, And now 738 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.360 you don't really see him so much anymore. Are they 739 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.320 evolving with the times like us or what is really 740 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:49.000 going on with that. 741 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:56.079 It's not safe for them in our atmosphere anymore. The government, 742 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.280 the industrial military complex, they can track whatever comes into 743 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:03.079 our space and they shoot it down unless they've made 744 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.840 a deal with them that they can fly in and out. 745 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.119 So we don't tend to see those discs as much. 746 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.320 And a lot of the non disc looking craft, not 747 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.559 all of them, but a lot of them are reverse 748 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:23.440 engineered technology. We probably have as many human made reverse 749 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:27.599 engineered a craft in the sky now that we see 750 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.920 as UFOs as actual alien craft now. 751 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.760 Right, whether they be Boeing or Lockheed Martin, stuff like 752 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:41.679 that military industrial complex type things. Yeah, that is quite 753 00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.599 interesting and so well, it does make sense. You know, 754 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.440 you wouldn't want to come in some kind of physical 755 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.280 craft like that, But do you so, I guess that 756 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:50.079 birth's the question. 757 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.880 Then what exactly is an ORB? 758 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.679 Is that just a protective kind of shield that they 759 00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.519 have around themselves? I mean, what is composed of an 760 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.239 ORB that makes them so elusive? You know, because there 761 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.519 was recently just a video electro Nick pointed out to 762 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:10.119 us the other night of I guess there was some 763 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.760 kind of military airplane that was shooting a missile at 764 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:18.599 an ORB and the ORB split the missile in half 765 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.440 like it was nothing, you know, And I was just 766 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.880 flabbergasted whenever I saw that, because why are you shooting 767 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:26.360 at an ORB? 768 00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:27.000 First of all? 769 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.559 And secondly, how does the ORB have the capabilities to say, hey, missile, 770 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.519 I'm going to cut you in two immediately? 771 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:34.960 You know? 772 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.480 It was I mean, it was a boss move. But like, 773 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:39.880 what do you think is going on with the orbs? 774 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.400 Is this like an advanced version of their tech or 775 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.000 spiritual tech whatever you'd call it. 776 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.519 Yeah, you know, I think there's probably lots of different 777 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.159 types of ORB. If we were to ask the question, 778 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.800 what's a box, you know, well, a coffin is a box, 779 00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:57.239 a truck is a box. 780 00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:58.840 You know, box of cereal? 781 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.599 You know, yeah, box of cereal. There you go. And 782 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.760 I think it's probably the same with an ORB. And 783 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.440 ORB is just something that appears roughly spherical to us 784 00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.119 in the sky that we don't understand. But I think 785 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.760 that I think that some of the orbs, like the 786 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:20.920 ORB that I encountered, they are entirely spiritual. They don't 787 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:26.079 have a physical component, and they may well be so 788 00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:27.960 I don't know the answer. I'm not going to claim 789 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.079 like I know the answer, but they could well be 790 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.360 the spirits of humans, animals. The larger orbs I suspect. 791 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.119 I've actually been told by some of my alien friends 792 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.840 that some of those larger spiritual looking orbs are them 793 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:48.360 their spirits moving around. But also I think some of 794 00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:54.159 the orbs are technological. They probably have a physicality to them. 795 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:58.400 I know that some craft are able to distort space 796 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.760 time around them, and so when you look at distorted 797 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.159 space time, you're getting plasmas forming, You're getting refraction effects 798 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.639 going on that make them look like a glowing, spiritual 799 00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:16.320 orb but inside there's a technology. So I think I 800 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.320 think there's a whole range of different things that the 801 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.480 orbs can be. And that's a fascinating video that you 802 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:27.840 talked about, and I don't know what that is, but 803 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:34.639 I suspect I suspect it's probably reverse engineered human made 804 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.880 technology that when when that missile came into that the 805 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:45.480 plasma or the the interface between the two different regions 806 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.679 of space time, it just blew up and then carried 807 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.360 on traveling with it a little bit. 808 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.639 Oh no, It's like the matter that was in between 809 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:56.519 just didn't know what to do, so it just had 810 00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:01.360 to because yeah, yeah. 811 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.679 Just a kind of like existing in the void for 812 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.519 a moment in time and then creating out of nothing. 813 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.320 At that point, in that particular point in space time, 814 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:10.960 it was like. 815 00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:15.079 Noah, right, So what are your thoughts on? 816 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.679 Well, it was earlier this year, towards the end of 817 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:21.000 last year up in New Jersey, people called them deorbags 818 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.079 because ORBS was getting banned on TikTok for some reason, 819 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.960 and you would see videos of seemingly and not just 820 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.559 one or two, I mean by the thousands of these 821 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.840 videos to where you would see an ORB and then 822 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.480 it would like transform into a drone. It made no 823 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.679 sense whatsoever, and almost like morphed into that and then 824 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.119 vice versa. Some of the drones would morph into orbs. 825 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:49.559 And do you think that that is government tech? Or 826 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.400 is that because you saw it? It was almost like 827 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.000 some of the videos that I was looking at, it 828 00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.079 almost looked like Star Wars was going on because some 829 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.760 of them were battling against each other and shooting against 830 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:02.920 each other. There was a video of a helicopter that 831 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:07.400 was chasing an ORB and like it's like the ORB 832 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.719 is just playing with it, you know, just toying with it. 833 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.639 And what do you think of what was going on 834 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.559 up in New Jersey with all the ORB activity? 835 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.920 Yeah, I mean, I'll start off by telling you I 836 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.639 don't know the answer, but I can tell you my 837 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.000 best I can tell you my best guess. I think 838 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.360 you had a mixture of different things going on. I 839 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:33.840 think you had real non human craft and entities flying around. 840 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:39.039 I think you had reverse engineered drones that were also 841 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:44.639 getting involved. And I think you had regular commercial drones 842 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:48.800 getting involved. And I know how easy because I've hosted 843 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.039 thousands of outdoors contact events I know how easy it 844 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.239 is to look up in the sky and miss mistake, 845 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.480 you know, just regular aircraft for something anomalous. So I 846 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.800 think you've got everything going on there. 847 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:03.880 Now. 848 00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:11.039 I do think there was There was political manipulation going on, 849 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:14.920 And when I by that, what I mean is I 850 00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.440 think that the people who are really in control of 851 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:25.199 this planet were trying to manipulate politicians and political parties. 852 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:29.679 They were creating a big, big, big situation. They were 853 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:33.280 promoting a big, big problem which they had the ability 854 00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:40.320 to solve, and therefore manipulate either part of political parties 855 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:45.000 that were in power or coming into power. There there's 856 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.239 a lot of psychological manipulation going on, and they was 857 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:50.000 a weird time. 858 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.199 Yeah, specifically, you know when a new president was being elected. 859 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.199 It was happening around that time. So yeah, it's strange. 860 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.559 Yeah, man, this. 861 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:03.880 Is just so far out there. 862 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.480 I kind of just throw my hands up when it 863 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:10.159 comes to like the whole drone thing. I actually just 864 00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.400 thought about it just like a couple of days ago, 865 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.800 and like, I don't even know, Like it's just a mess. 866 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:16.960 It's just a muddy mess. Whenever I think about it, Like, 867 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.840 I don't even know what my opinion is on it. 868 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:21.960 And as far as the videos that Jonathan was talking about, 869 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.840 I wonder how many of those were even real, you 870 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:25.320 know what I mean? 871 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:25.639 I don't know. 872 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:26.719 It's just so muddy to me. 873 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.440 Yeah, yeah it is. It's a sticky situation. But I 874 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:35.920 think that Rupert, you're over there, you're able to at 875 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.119 least discern what is coming, you know, around you, and 876 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.199 just out of curiosity. Whenever you are trying to make contact. 877 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.920 Are you using a specific camera lens to be able to. 878 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.440 Capture these these entities? 879 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.079 Are you able to just capture capture them with any 880 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:53.760 old filter. 881 00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.599 The most common camera that I use is a ionics 882 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.039 Aurora Pro night vision monocular, and those are good because 883 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.639 they have a fairly wide field of view and they 884 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.800 increase the levels of both visible and near infrared light, 885 00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.000 so you can see a lot with them. And they're lightweight, 886 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:24.039 so those are great. If if you want to probe 887 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.239 a little bit deeper, you you could get a thermal 888 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:30.079 imaging camera, something like a Flear. I've got a Hicic 889 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.800 Micro which is a brand which is as good as 890 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:39.119 Flear but less expensive. And sometimes when you have interdimensional 891 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.559 beings coming in, there's a flow of energy in or out, 892 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:49.599 and therefore you get hotter or colder things happening that 893 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:53.760 are picked up on the thermal imaging camera. I've connected 894 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.400 with beings before, and somebody's felt them touching their face 895 00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.239 and then we see on the thermal imaging camera their 896 00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:01.079 face getting cold. That sort of thing. 897 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.599 Oh see, that's what I like to hear. I like 898 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.320 to hear like stuff like that, like the tangible evidence 899 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.360 that you can How do you disprove someone's face going 900 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.039 cold like that so randomly? 901 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:11.599 Wow? 902 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:12.639 Yeah? 903 00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.679 You do you have any other like wild stories like 904 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.239 that of people having strange experiences that I mean, I 905 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.599 know that you have a bunch of video footage of it, 906 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.159 but like any other like personal stories that were maybe 907 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:27.840 sent to you. 908 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:33.679 I mean I could talk for twenty four hours NonStop 909 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.039 on all of the different stories. I'll tell you one 910 00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.599 that I'm involved with at the moment that's kind of interesting, 911 00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.719 I think, and that is to do with the Ebans. 912 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:45.760 The Ebans are generally considered to be that they're small, 913 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.440 they look a little bit like grays, but they're really friendly, 914 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.400 they're really peaceful, that they've got a sense of humor, 915 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.079 they've got you know, emotions are comparable to ours, and 916 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:01.440 they they have that they're the ones that crashed in Roswell, 917 00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.400 almost certainly, and they have then been helping the government, 918 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:09.639 and there's even claims that there's been like an exchange 919 00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:13.800 program to their planet Serpo. You know, things like this 920 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.480 going on. Now. I don't know how you know if 921 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.280 all of that is true, but I will tell you 922 00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.400 what I know to be true, because I've experienced it. 923 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:26.199 In a zoom meeting very much like this one maybe 924 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:29.880 two years ago, we were actually projecting to the Galactic 925 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:34.440 Council and being stepped forwards in front of us psychically, 926 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:39.239 and we asked this being, who are you, what's your name? 927 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:44.559 And they said, we're an ebon. It's a male ebon, 928 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:51.159 and they gave to us visions of the future, and 929 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.199 it's not a very happy vision. But what they're doing 930 00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:56.000 is they're not trying to disturb us. They're trying to 931 00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:00.679 warn us and prepare us. And if the future is 932 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.719 not set in stone, we can change it if we 933 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.760 if we're wise enough, if we listen to them. And 934 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.679 so we were given that that message, and we asked 935 00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:17.400 the being what is your name? And this being told us, well, 936 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.639 we don't have names like you have. We're mostly telepathic, 937 00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:27.960 but for you, we're for for our interactions with humans, 938 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.960 we've created name, you know, human type names for ourselves. 939 00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:35.079 And he said, my name is Jean Luke and I 940 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.519 was like, Jean Luke, How on earth did you get 941 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.039 that name? And he said, I like Captain Jean Luke 942 00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.920 Picard Star Treks And so that was crazy. But I'll 943 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.679 tell that by itself. It's like, well, that's bizarre. Are 944 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.400 we imagining this? Is this some kind of mass mass hallucination? 945 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.760 But about three months later, I was hosting a completely 946 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.119 different event, and in person event in Blue Springs, Missouri, 947 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:03.599 with a bunch of my psychic friends because I do 948 00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:08.239 like paranormal conventions and things. And they all turned and 949 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.480 saw an ebon craft land, at least a flying saucer 950 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.960 land about thirty feet from us. They saw five beings 951 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:19.000 get out. And these are these psychics and mediums. They're professionals, 952 00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.360 and what they do is they connect with human spirits. 953 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.559 They've never seen aliens before. This was a new thing 954 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:28.320 to them. So I'm like asking questions of the beings 955 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:31.039 and I say what species are you? And they say 956 00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:34.079 Eban and the psychics are relaying this to me because 957 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.159 I'm not myself hearing the ebons. But then I say, well, 958 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:40.800 what is what is? One of them steps forward. It's 959 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.880 a female, the captain of the craft, a female ebon. 960 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.800 And we say, what is your name? And I'm going 961 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.119 to cut a long, long story short. There's a few, 962 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.840 you know, a few more elements to this, but cutting 963 00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.719 a long story short. She says Deanna. And I say 964 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.119 to her, how did you get that name, Dianna? She said, 965 01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:02.599 Jean Luke gave it to me. 966 01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:05.599 Oh my god. 967 01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:10.360 And then she said, and our names are connected to 968 01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:14.679 each other. And then I'm like, counselor Deanna Troy. 969 01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:21.039 Holy shit, dude, Wow, this psychic didn't know anything about. 970 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:26.320 This, right, No, this is logical verification. They're giving us proof. 971 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.599 What are the statistical odds? 972 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.880 You know? Do you know what's funny? I was going 973 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.920 to try to play Devil's advocate, you know, and be 974 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.960 skeptical angle, Well, maybe the psychic is just reading your 975 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.480 mind and because you were, and that's the skeptical angle, 976 01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.800 like the psychic is still picking up on your thoughts. 977 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.840 At that point, it's like yeah, you know what I mean, 978 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.159 Like wow, and. 979 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.320 I love Star Trek and I wasn't the first person 980 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:53.039 to make the connection, but I'll tell you. In our 981 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.679 communications with Dianna, I asked her, what can we do 982 01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.960 for you? Because too much of the problem with humans 983 01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:03.840 is it's all about us. Help us, help us. I 984 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.159 asked her what can we do for you? And then 985 01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:09.920 everything changed. She showed us a vision of in the 986 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:14.199 distant past. I'm not quite sure when, but in the past, 987 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:17.920 one of their crash, one of their craft crashed and 988 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.920 the survivors, the Ebn survivors of the crash got out 989 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.119 and sought shelter in a cave, and human beings at 990 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:29.000 the time, they found them in the cave, and they 991 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:33.119 were bad to them. They cut them up, they mutilated them, 992 01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:36.599 they killed them, and at the time they left at 993 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.960 least some of their remains in the cave. And she 994 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:44.159 told us that there's two reasons why she's telling us. 995 01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:44.360 This. 996 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.559 One is so that we can understand what that meant 997 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:52.800 to them, because they're telepathic, they're empathic, they're psychically connected 998 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.840 to each other. They were collective, and so the pain 999 01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:00.440 of the Ebans in that cave was felt by their 1000 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:06.519 whole entire species. Simultaneously, and she said, that's why we 1001 01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.639 are weary of human beings. But then what she did 1002 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.480 was she said, you know you've asked us, is there 1003 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:18.000 anything you can do to help us? And we said, yeah, yeah, 1004 01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:22.159 please tell us. And she said, well, that situation is 1005 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:26.679 not resolved because there still remains in that cave, and 1006 01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:33.800 I'm working with them to try to I won't go 1007 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.280 into too too much specific detail here for my own safety, 1008 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.440 but I'm trying to resolve that situation with them. We're 1009 01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:41.519 trying to find that cave. 1010 01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:46.239 Wow, you imagine you find that cave and there's actual 1011 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:50.519 remains in there. Dude, this is like, it's just big 1012 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:51.239 stuff right here. 1013 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.320 Because this kind of stuff you almost feel like you 1014 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:55.360 have to take in on a bit of faith. You know, 1015 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.079 even though you know you are getting clarification from everybody else, 1016 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:02.039 you can't see them, you're not hearing them, you know 1017 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:04.000 what I mean, Like you almost have. 1018 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:04.360 To just. 1019 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.320 It probably feels like you're pretending at first, right, Like 1020 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.280 is it something like that or is it a little 1021 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.559 bit I'm sure it's a little bit more than just pretending, 1022 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.079 But like I'm sure there's a little bit of learning 1023 01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:19.559 to trust your own intuition a little bit more. But 1024 01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.159 is it almost like a fake it till you make 1025 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:21.800 it kind of thing. 1026 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:29.000 Well, absolutely, yes, one hundred percent. But one of the 1027 01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:35.239 messages they're giving to us is that to just accept 1028 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:39.000 something as being true without proof is logically invalid, is 1029 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.599 intellectually invalid. And if you look at the history of humanity, 1030 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.840 when humanity accepts things as being true without proof, we 1031 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:48.679 often get it wrong. I mean, look at the eighteen 1032 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:54.760 thousand gods. Yeah, you can't all have been right, But 1033 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.360 then we're so faithful and devout in our beliefs that 1034 01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:04.119 then we go and people over it. So one of 1035 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:06.639 the things that they're encouraging, and what I'm the way 1036 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.960 I'm trying to live my life is to really know 1037 01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.079 what I know because it's been logically proved, but also 1038 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.239 know that everything else is just you know, in terms 1039 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.239 of probability, it's probably true, if it might not be true, 1040 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:27.119 and I am I remain open to the possibility that 1041 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:31.360 some of the things that I'm perceiving are not are 1042 01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:35.960 not literally what I'm interpreting them as being, either because 1043 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:41.079 they're deceiving me or because I don't yet have the 1044 01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:46.840 intellectual capacity to grasp who they really are, and so 1045 01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.719 having that ability to say, I don't know, and I'm 1046 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.800 open to all possibilities. That's the only way that we're 1047 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.400 going to advance our knowledge, and that's the only way 1048 01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.559 they're going to feel comfortable coming in and telling us 1049 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:02.719 new stuff and educating us properly. 1050 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:06.079 Well as a wise philosopher, one said, you don't know 1051 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:07.119 what you don't know? 1052 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.760 You know, we're doing something right at least sounds like. 1053 01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.039 You know What's interesting though, you mentioned about how they 1054 01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:17.400 kind of feel things as a collective, and I, I, 1055 01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:20.320 you know, we've we've kind of we just recently did 1056 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.320 a show kind of based upon that that essentially that 1057 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:27.920 maybe we're all one giant collective as well, and we've 1058 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.679 kind of just fallen from grace or we've become too individualistic, 1059 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.840 or whatever the case may be. But I almost wonder, 1060 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.559 you know, is that something do you believe that? Is 1061 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:41.400 that something that maybe one day humanity will reach some 1062 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.559 kind of collective status to where we can almost act 1063 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.079 in accordance with each other, like these entities are. 1064 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:56.559 No. Humanity isn't wise. Humanity is not wise enough. We're 1065 01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:01.519 not evolved enough. We we the simplest to the simplest 1066 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:05.719 of problems to understand, are becoming so big on our 1067 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:13.480 planet that they're destroying us. So so humanity isn't going 1068 01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:17.920 to make it. But what we evolve into, our next 1069 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:23.000 evolutionary step absolutely is moving in that direction. And that's 1070 01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:27.440 really that's the power in we're what we're doing, or 1071 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:30.000 what we can do on this planet, and that is 1072 01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:35.199 to position ourselves so that we are ready for that 1073 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:36.559 next evolutionary step. 1074 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.079 You know what, It's funny because Sean and I were 1075 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.320 just having this conversation earlier on the phone, and I 1076 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:47.599 was like, you know, I do care about humanity. Obviously, 1077 01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:49.639 I'm a human. There's a lot of humans that I love. 1078 01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:53.199 But whenever it comes to like even the soul's progression, 1079 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:55.840 you know, humanity, I feel like is almost just a 1080 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.440 stepping stone on the soul's progression, right. 1081 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.920 Would you agree with that? Is that silly? 1082 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:08.920 There's a lot of probably beliefs involved in you know, 1083 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.880 soul progression, and I'm not sure that I fully accept, 1084 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:19.360 you know, the the beliefs behind that. But I think 1085 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:26.440 I think biologically and spiritually there are different ways that 1086 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:34.159 our consciousnesses can progress into the future, and with technology, 1087 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:43.400 a form of reincarnation is possible, and we can go 1088 01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:51.079 into bodies that are more intelligent and wiser and more ascended. 1089 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:56.199 And so I may just be quibbling with words here, 1090 01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:59.280 I guess what I'm saying is comparable to what you're saying. 1091 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.519 But I think I think that's the really big that's 1092 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.800 the that's the deep lesson here. How how do we 1093 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:11.559 evolve to the next step? What what is involved in ascension? 1094 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:17.319 Is that something that we ourselves can presently as human beings, 1095 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:23.880 get our heads around. The answer is yes, and I 1096 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.279 think so, and that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. 1097 01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.600 But that that there's a sequence of very hard lessons 1098 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.199 that have to be learned in order to ascend, in 1099 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:38.159 order to be on the next arc metaphorically speaking, to 1100 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.079 survive what is to come into the future, to be 1101 01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.079 to have to position yourself so that you can become 1102 01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.520 part of those more utopian collectives. 1103 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:54.520 Okay, all right, that's an interesting answer. No, I get it, 1104 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:56.920 And I guess I I kind of just look at 1105 01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:02.319 consciousness as not strictly only us being Like, whenever I 1106 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.920 think about consciousness, you know, and I'm somebody I do 1107 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:08.399 past life regressions. I'm hypnotist for past life regressions. 1108 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:09.720 Some people think that's silly. 1109 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.199 I have done, you know, hundreds of them at this point, 1110 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.479 and they all seem to be pretty damn profound. A 1111 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.640 lot of people talk about having past lives or parallel 1112 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:25.119 lives or future lives as an extraterrestrial entity of sorts. 1113 01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:27.800 I myself has kind of had one of those experiences 1114 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:31.279 as well, pretty profound, and so I guess whenever I 1115 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:35.680 think about consciousness, it's not always directly tied to Oh, well, 1116 01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:37.560 you know, if we reincarnate, then you're just going to 1117 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.000 be another human again. What are your thoughts on that? 1118 01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.319 Do you think that if reincarnation is I don't know 1119 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:43.680 if you believe in reincarnation, do. 1120 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:50.279 You I have no beliefs. I'm going to suggest an 1121 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:57.039 alternate possibility for why people like yourself are able to 1122 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:03.000 connect with real past lives. I'm certain that when regressional 1123 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:10.520 hypnotherapists take people back, they're able to connect with real 1124 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:16.840 memories from real people in real lives. What I have 1125 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.880 not been convinced of yet is that they are the 1126 01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:26.920 lives of that person. What I think is happening is 1127 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:32.920 some kind of very powerful remote viewing. When when you 1128 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.720 remote view to somewhere, you meditate, you relax You reach 1129 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:39.239 out your mind to a pre to somewhere you want 1130 01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:41.640 to go, and then you start seeing what's there. You 1131 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.199 also start it's not just viewing, it's feeling, it's experiencing. 1132 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:50.600 And hypnosis is a form of you know, relaxation is 1133 01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.920 involved and consciously trying to take your mind to somewhere. 1134 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.720 And there's almost no difference between hypnosis and meditation for sure, 1135 01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:00.640 like the state that you're the state of mind that 1136 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.520 you're being put in, they are what and what? 1137 01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:08.720 Yeah, so we might be you know, it might not 1138 01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:13.520 seem like a very important thing, but the philosophy of 1139 01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:18.159 reincarnation often involves learning, learning in one life and then 1140 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:21.000 taking what you learn into the next life. But how 1141 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.479 can you learn if you don't remember. 1142 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.359 I can't remember the previous life. 1143 01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:30.119 Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting theory to that. Maybe that 1144 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.159 that's what's actually going on, that you're not not exactly 1145 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:36.880 experiencing a past life. That's you know, and I've postulated 1146 01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:39.319 that in the past, and I can't say that it's 1147 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:41.319 right or wrong in any sort of matter. And I 1148 01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.039 don't even Who am I to say that people are 1149 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:49.680 actually for sure like certified experiencing a past life that 1150 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000 they were, that they personally experienced. If you're just tapping 1151 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.479 into the field, if it is some kind of remote viewing, 1152 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.359 if it is some kind of collective consciousness that we're 1153 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:02.479 able to assayly tap into the acashak records, how can 1154 01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:04.279 we be so sure that we were the ones that 1155 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:06.760 were going through that exact exact experience. 1156 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.479 Yeah, we're just the observer you were experiencing it. But 1157 01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:12.720 that doesn't, like you said, doesn't necessarily mean that that 1158 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:13.079 was you. 1159 01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:18.359 Yeah, it can be the exact same experience that you're 1160 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:22.359 experiencing as the consciousness that experienced it. It can be 1161 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.159 you know, like a like a like copying a video 1162 01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:31.359 tape across everything is copied into you. You experience it 1163 01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:33.600 exactly as if you were that person. 1164 01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:36.359 You know, I actually think that I like that more. 1165 01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:42.640 I think because if it all is just one giant thing, 1166 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.359 you know, I don't know what your your thoughts are on. 1167 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.560 There's there's plenty of different thoughts out there that suggest 1168 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:52.319 that we are all one thing. It's just an illusion 1169 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:56.079 that we're all separate individuals and separate consciousnesses and separate 1170 01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:58.319 souls and all that kind of stuff. There's the idea 1171 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:01.359 of pantheism that just said, yeah, it's it's all one 1172 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:05.880 giant illusion. It's all one actually one thing. And the 1173 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:08.239 the intelligence for a lack of a better word, that 1174 01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:11.560 you come in contact with whenever you're in that meditative state, 1175 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.560 that subtle intelligence that you that you almost sense, and 1176 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:19.800 it's a bit of familiarity that you're whenever you're there, 1177 01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.840 because it does feel like you're there literally there as 1178 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:27.600 in like a location. That maybe that's what we are, 1179 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.319 you know, as one giant collective. Because I mean monks 1180 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:36.640 and yogi's and gurus and shamans and name your spiritual 1181 01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:40.000 hierarchy of type of person. They've all tried to, in 1182 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.520 my opinion, all tried to describe the same thing in 1183 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.319 different words, but it all kind of applies, you know, 1184 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:48.720 Like so I don't know, that's kind of what we've 1185 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.079 been diving into a little bit lately. So I actually 1186 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:53.680 I like it makes sense. 1187 01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:58.760 And you know, there's those inconveniences like if you go 1188 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:00.760 to a medium and you say can I talk to 1189 01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.880 my dad, great grandmother or somebody, you never get a 1190 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:08.479 response from the medium. In my experience, if they're a 1191 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.640 proper medium, Oh sorry, they're not in right now, They've 1192 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.479 already been reincarnated. You can always talk to them. 1193 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:15.880 Good point. 1194 01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.600 Yeah, yeah, and I've wondered about that too. We actually 1195 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:24.920 had a lady on the show like a year ago, 1196 01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:28.800 and she said that she was communicating with her her 1197 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:30.000 deceased grandmother. 1198 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:30.840 I believe it was. 1199 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.960 Through a Roku TV, which sounds kind of crazy on 1200 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.279 the surface, right, but she like there was some kind 1201 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:42.800 of like weird, esoteric, kind of you know, enlightened almost 1202 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.880 messages that were coming through on a Roku TV. Now 1203 01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:48.199 is that the modern day Ouiji board? I don't know, 1204 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:51.760 but the messages seemed to align with pretty much what 1205 01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:55.319 everybody else is tapping into, you know, whether you are 1206 01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.720 talking to extraterrestrials or spirits or God or your higher 1207 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.319 self for whatever, you know, it all seems to pretty much, 1208 01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:06.960 you know, match up in that sense, so really strange. 1209 01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:08.760 You know what I did want to ask you though, 1210 01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:13.920 because you brought up Star Trek and me being a 1211 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:19.479 past live progressionist obviously from Dolores Cannon with the quantum 1212 01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:26.199 healing hypnosis technique. She did so many interviews over her years, right, 1213 01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:28.359 and she wrote a lot of books, twenty some odd 1214 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:35.640 books about her experiences from hypnotizing individuals. And she said 1215 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:40.359 that she believed that this reality is almost like a holideck, 1216 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:45.239 you know that, essentially, like there could be reality stacked 1217 01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:47.560 up on top of realities, up on top of realities, 1218 01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:50.960 almost like the holodeck kind of hologram thing that's going 1219 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.199 on in Star Trek. What are your thoughts on that 1220 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:57.960 is that? I don't know a good synonym, I guess 1221 01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:01.479 for what it is for where the aliens could be existing? 1222 01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:03.720 Could could they just literally be right here? 1223 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.800 Yeah? I think that the way that we use words, 1224 01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:16.880 the way we define words is important here. I yeah, 1225 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:23.880 I live long and prosper to you to or as 1226 01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:30.720 I say, may tuktok be with you. Yeah. I don't 1227 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:35.560 see any evidence to suggest that our reality, at least 1228 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:37.840 I don't see any convincing evidence to suggest that the 1229 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.800 reality we live in isn't real. This, this is, this 1230 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.880 is as real as it as it gets. I think, however, 1231 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.479 we're not seeing all of reality. And when we talk 1232 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:55.039 about something like holograms or holographs, often we're talking about 1233 01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:58.640 a projection of something onto it, like a screen for example, 1234 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:02.680 or onto our vision, and from the perspective of we 1235 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:09.359 are ultra dimensional beings, and all we're really perceiving is 1236 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:15.479 almost like a thin film of ourselves and the physical world. 1237 01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:19.279 That's really all we're seeing. It's almost like, you know, 1238 01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:24.920 a projection of a small slice of everything that is 1239 01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:29.840 real that we're perceiving. So I'm sure that reality is 1240 01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:35.199 a lot bigger and more complicated than we understand. But 1241 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:38.359 I don't think like it's like in the Matrix movie. 1242 01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:43.279 I don't think we're all like brains in vats being controlled. 1243 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.239 You know. I think we do have these physical bodies, 1244 01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:51.680 but there's definitely I mean, we are being controlled, but 1245 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:55.159 you know, I think we're being controlled by humans, by humans, 1246 01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:56.359 unethical humans. 1247 01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:57.239 Yeah. 1248 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:01.239 Yeah, Well, now of course I have to ask you 1249 01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:06.159 what are have you ever, you know, dabbled into psychedelics, 1250 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.680 because that is something that a lot of people day, 1251 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.560 A lot of people say myself included to where a 1252 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:15.960 reality seems a bit, I don't want to say, distorted, 1253 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:21.000 especially if you've ever done like DMT anything like really 1254 01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.880 out there that it almost seems like you're literally being 1255 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.119 transported to another reality, and that this reality almost ceases 1256 01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:33.680 to exist within the moment. Have you ever touched upon psychedelics? 1257 01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:36.319 Is that your thing at all? 1258 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:41.319 I personally haven't. However, I don't see any reason to 1259 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:48.319 exclude the possibility, even the probability, that psychedelics or different 1260 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:55.119 kinds of medications or drugs might open up our perceptions 1261 01:18:55.199 --> 01:19:02.039 to higher dimensional spaces and facilitate interactions with other beings. 1262 01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:05.239 I think, based on what people have told me, I 1263 01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:07.800 think that's probably likely to be true. 1264 01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:09.279 Checks out. 1265 01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.600 Yeah, we did a whole series on the findings over 1266 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:17.319 at the Imperial College of London on the DMTX studies, 1267 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:20.359 mind blowing. If you ever get the opportunity go check 1268 01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:21.199 that out for sure. 1269 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:24.000 Yeah, we're talking about, you know, the fact that we're 1270 01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:26.399 only getting a small sliver. You know, it's not so 1271 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:28.319 much that we're in a simulation or it's not real, 1272 01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:31.159 but we only see part of it. And then you 1273 01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:35.399 have a substance that can allow your brain to connect 1274 01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:38.399 and way more ways than it usually does while you're awake, 1275 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.039 then maybe you're able to see more slivers filter. Yeah, 1276 01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:46.039 and I think that's kind of what's happening. There's definitely 1277 01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.000 times or you know experiences that I've had where you know, 1278 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.600 you look at things and it's like, oh, I feel 1279 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:54.159 like that's always there. It's like when you look at 1280 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.520 the stars at night, and I know you haven't tried it, 1281 01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:58.920 but if you look at the stars and you're experiencing that, 1282 01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.680 it's almost like you're se something that is always happening, 1283 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:07.760 but you just don't have that perception while not partaking, 1284 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.239 if you will. So, yeah, I don't know. It's very 1285 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:13.960 very interesting, and I'm actually i'd be curious to see 1286 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:15.439 what your experiences would be. 1287 01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.920 Like, Oh, man, please let me do it with you. 1288 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.439 He's not just at the table, dude, he's driving the ship, 1289 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:24.920 you know what I mean. And he meets his wife 1290 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.399 from the future. I'm almost convinced. 1291 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:34.119 Right, Yeah, I mean it's been proved to me countless 1292 01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:38.560 times that these higher dimensional spaces and these higher dimensional 1293 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:44.119 beings are there and so, and I'm sure that there's 1294 01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:48.359 several different ways of being able to perceive them. I 1295 01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:51.600 think part of it is genetic. I think it can 1296 01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:54.800 run through family lines. I think a lot of the 1297 01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:57.720 time when people have had nearly died or been really 1298 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.680 ill or had near death experiences, it's somehow weakens the link, 1299 01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.319 you know, the anchor to our physical reality, and people 1300 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:11.359 can see out more personally. Right now, I'm I'm happy 1301 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:13.039 being anchored to the physical realm. 1302 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:18.680 But yeah, interesting, I mean when you're having experiences like 1303 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.239 yourself without any assistance, I mean. 1304 01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:21.680 I don't think. 1305 01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:25.119 Yeah, I mean, why even take that next step? You're 1306 01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:27.960 already there, you know, don't fix it if it ain't broken. 1307 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:30.239 I mean, I'll die one day and then I'll get there. 1308 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.000 So right, yeah, you're going to have that blast off 1309 01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:37.920 one day. Just out of curiosity. Have you ever looked 1310 01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:42.359 into Chris Bledsoe at all? 1311 01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:44.960 You know? I did. I watched a Ross Cooled Heart 1312 01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:49.079 interview with him a couple of months ago because I 1313 01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:52.479 was curious and a lot of people were talking about him, 1314 01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:56.760 and he seemed like a really nice guy. He seemed 1315 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.239 he I mean, I don't know, but he's seemed to 1316 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:02.720 be having real paranormal experiences. 1317 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.600 Seems genuine. 1318 01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:11.159 He see, he seems genuine. I have a friends, a 1319 01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.239 lot of friends who are in high places, I guess 1320 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:18.840 you could say, in the in the spiritual UFO paranormal communities, 1321 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:22.560 and some of them have have said that you know, 1322 01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:26.960 he some of the things that he's seeing and saying 1323 01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:32.479 those are orbs, that they're definitely aircraft. But at the 1324 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:36.439 same time, it does seem to be the case that 1325 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:41.640 a lot of what he's seeing is also genuine. And 1326 01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:49.319 I liked that he he wasn't really rigid about his interpretations. 1327 01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:53.279 I liked that he, you know, he had interpretations of 1328 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.359 the beings he was seeing, and he had he has 1329 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:59.680 a you know, a belief system, but he he was 1330 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.520 opinently not tied to that. 1331 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.119 Kind of loose, loose interpretation. 1332 01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:10.239 Yeah, it's really important, you know, to to maintain that 1333 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:13.079 discernment of you know, just going all the way to 1334 01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.039 one side. You know. I feel like you have to 1335 01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:17.680 have at least a little bit of that skepticism to 1336 01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:19.800 you and and really try to you know what I mean, 1337 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.279 you don't want to just go, you know, too far 1338 01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.479 one way, you know. So I think that that's a 1339 01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:25.800 that's probably a good thing to have. 1340 01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:27.880 I think, yeah, no doubt. 1341 01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:32.279 Well, of course we have to ask you what are 1342 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.520 your thoughts on Bashar? And I guess really the only 1343 01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:38.159 reason I'm trying to ask these because I feel like 1344 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:40.000 a lot of people are saying a lot of things, 1345 01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:43.359 and I want to see if the stories can possibly corroborate, 1346 01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.159 or you know, is there some some turds in the 1347 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:49.279 punch bowl kind of thing? 1348 01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:50.079 You know what I mean? 1349 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.640 Not saying that either any of these individuals would be 1350 01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:57.079 said turds in the punch bowl, but just you know, hypothetically, 1351 01:23:57.399 --> 01:23:58.760 not hypothetically. 1352 01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:00.760 I just want to know what your opinion is of Bashar. 1353 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:08.159 Yeah, I'm going to answer this in a slightly circuitous manner. 1354 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.079 I know a lot of people who can channel and 1355 01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:15.920 who claim to be able to channel, and a lot 1356 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:20.600 of those people really can channel. Some of them think 1357 01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:25.800 they can, but they can't. Out of the ones that 1358 01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:31.279 are genuine, that are really connecting with some kind of 1359 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:39.399 being that is non human. There are challenges two channeling 1360 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:44.319 with one hundred percent accuracy, and one of those challenges 1361 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:50.199 is you can't say anything that you don't already have 1362 01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:58.520 the vocabulary for and the intellectual, conceptual grasp of. And 1363 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.159 so what I have found when I am working with 1364 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:06.840 any channelers or mediums is that if I'm leading the session, 1365 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:10.359 if I'm asking questions through a channeler or through a 1366 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.000 medium to these beings, and then I'm getting an answer 1367 01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:18.560 through the medium, that medium or that challenger. There is 1368 01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:19.640 filtering going on. 1369 01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:21.319 There has to be. 1370 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.000 There has to be. It's unavoidable, and I'm not faulting 1371 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.920 the medium or the challenge the channeler, but there is filtering. 1372 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:37.520 And I have seen often that the channeler will listen 1373 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:42.159 to my question, and even listening to my question, they 1374 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:46.119 don't They don't channel that question to the higher dimensional 1375 01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:52.199 being without filtering. They filter my question into the vocabulary 1376 01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:55.439 and the concepts that they already know and understand. And 1377 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:59.720 sometimes I when I'm working with channelers, I realize the 1378 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:06.039 ultimately the channeler's beliefs are what I'm talking to, and 1379 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:08.960 that I'm really only talking to a person, even if 1380 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.920 an alien is present, I'm really only talking to a person. 1381 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:15.560 One example of this is and I won't name names 1382 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:20.960 because I don't like to criticize people publicly, but some 1383 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:27.079 well known channeler of Pleadeans, in one of their channel 1384 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.640 channeling sessions said something along the lines of the biggest 1385 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:34.880 problem in the Earth is having right now is five 1386 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.640 G and that the solution is we all need to 1387 01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:41.840 paint our walls with lead paint. Now, as a scientist 1388 01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.479 who understands the dangers and the toxicity of lead. I 1389 01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:50.239 would say that's a really bad idea, and I do 1390 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:52.720 not believe that a Pleaadian would just give that piece 1391 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:54.800 of advice. In every way, I find that piece of 1392 01:26:54.840 --> 01:27:00.920 advice to be wrong. And so with any panel, I 1393 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.680 would say it never hurts to listen to them, but 1394 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:10.520 always be open to looking for inconsistencies in what they're saying, 1395 01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:17.600 and look and see whether the personality of the person 1396 01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:22.039 of the human is coming through in the answers, the 1397 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:25.600 personality in the beliefs of the human. If they are, 1398 01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:31.079 it's probably not as reliable as people who have learnt 1399 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:36.079 to not be attached to beliefs or expectations. 1400 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.960 Yeah, that's interesting because now I mean, if you are 1401 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.119 if there is a channel happening, there's an interpretation going 1402 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.399 from you first to even form the question, then to 1403 01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.000 the channeler, then the channeler to the alien, then back 1404 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:51.000 to you. And by the time you get the information back, 1405 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:53.279 you have your own filter that it goes through and 1406 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.520 you're interpreting it in that way. And so by the 1407 01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.159 time you get the message, it's like who knows, really, 1408 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:00.760 it's like a game hotel phone at this point. 1409 01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:03.600 Yeah, and so what I try and do when I 1410 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:05.960 work with channelers or mediums, is I try to word 1411 01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:08.880 questions that they don't that the channels and mediums are 1412 01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.840 not gonna filter the question out. For example, on TikTok's homeworld, 1413 01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:16.239 I could say what is the molecular composition of the ocean? 1414 01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:19.119 If I say what is the ocean made out of 1415 01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:22.880 to the channeler, they'll probably say water, okay. But if 1416 01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:26.640 I ask the channeler how many atoms are in the 1417 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:31.720 molecules that the ocean is made out of, I've immediately 1418 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:35.119 lost most channels. I've gone above most channels scientific ability, 1419 01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:39.800 and all they're really listening for is a number. So 1420 01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:45.279 that helps the message to be put, you know, channeled 1421 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:47.720 one way and then channeled the other way with as 1422 01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:49.119 little filtering as possible. 1423 01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:54.039 Do you have any like great channelers that you'd be 1424 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:55.199 able to give a shout out to? 1425 01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:56.119 Possibly? 1426 01:28:57.039 --> 01:28:58.840 I mean, we're not going to call it the bad ones, obviously, 1427 01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.239 but like, are there there are a couple of really 1428 01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.319 good ones that we can kind of keep an eye. 1429 01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:05.640 Out for that come to mind. 1430 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.760 Not right now, some of the names. 1431 01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:15.840 I apologize, I would I would want to get that 1432 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:19.239 permission to be saying their name on a podcast before 1433 01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:21.680 before sayingstand. 1434 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.960 Very well, but I do work with some Yeah, okay, No, 1435 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:26.720 that's okay. 1436 01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:29.560 And I do have another question the uh. 1437 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:34.000 I don't know if you've looked into to the Stars 1438 01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:37.840 Academy with damn it, what is his name? The drummer 1439 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:39.720 or the singer or whatever. 1440 01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:44.399 The drummer I remember, kill me on this one. 1441 01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:49.159 I just I know who you're talking about along. 1442 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:53.760 Yes, thank you, and I think that he He recently 1443 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.840 went on to Joe Rogan's show and he was talking 1444 01:29:56.840 --> 01:30:01.600 about how he believes that the the ancient civilization of 1445 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:08.720 Atlantis was actually the He believes that that the Atlanteans 1446 01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:13.520 are who we refer to as the Greek gods, and 1447 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.199 I thought, wow, that is the first time I ever 1448 01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:18.840 heard it. I don't know if that's crazy or not, 1449 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.159 but man, if that's the real thing, I mean, have 1450 01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:23.439 you ever heard anything like that. 1451 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.920 Yeah, I've heard lots of theories like that, and I 1452 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.479 think I'm fascinated by them all. I'm fascinated by James 1453 01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:37.279 Cameron's pursuit of Atlantis. He funds a lot of expeditions 1454 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:42.000 to try and figure out where it is. Now. I'm 1455 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:48.680 fascinated by the connection between old stories, old mythologies, and 1456 01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:53.640 aliens and non human entities. I don't have a strong 1457 01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:58.199 opinion because I haven't researched it enough, so I can't 1458 01:30:58.199 --> 01:30:59.720 really tell you that I know anything. 1459 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:01.119 No, that's okay. 1460 01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:03.520 I mean the only reason I ask is earlier we 1461 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:08.079 were talking about, uh, you know, are is it is 1462 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.199 it possible that the aliens are what we would refer 1463 01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:14.800 to as gods? And you know, I'm sure statistically that's 1464 01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:19.000 probably a possibility, right, But as far as that goes, 1465 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:22.159 I mean, are there any Is that ever a question 1466 01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.720 that you've ever asked the ets, like were you ever 1467 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:26.960 referred to as a god? 1468 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:29.239 And who worshiped you? Or anything like that? 1469 01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:36.279 Yeah, you know, I'm sure that there are beings. I'm 1470 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:39.359 sure that most of the beings that were connecting with 1471 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:43.159 non human intelligences have in the past been perceived as 1472 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:49.600 being either gods or messengers of gods specifics, you know, 1473 01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:53.720 I don't know. I mean, maybe Egyptian gods would, I 1474 01:31:53.760 --> 01:32:01.720 would think. But the word the word god is a 1475 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:07.600 tricky thing because people ascribe to the word god so 1476 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:12.560 many different attributes. Creator of the universe, creator of the Earth, 1477 01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:18.680 creator of human beings. Some people. You know, ancient people 1478 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:23.479 used to think that the gods were were vengeful and 1479 01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:26.119 vicious and you had to be careful of them, you know, 1480 01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:29.520 you had god fearing. But the more more modern take 1481 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:34.479 is that there that God is, you know, theorized or 1482 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:41.079 believed to be supreme, supreme, supremely moral. So what I 1483 01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:44.560 like to try and do when I'm when I'm thinking 1484 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:48.680 about God's at all is try and break it down 1485 01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:54.840 into a specific claim. For example, for example, did God 1486 01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.359 create human beings? Was there was there was there a 1487 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:03.079 consciousness that created hum human beings. I'm going to be 1488 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:07.680 a scientist, you know, evolution, natural selection. I learned that 1489 01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:13.880 that's that science. So for me, being able to prove 1490 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:17.000 something that is contrary to the idea of a creator 1491 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:20.000 being just sort of pulling us out of the dirt 1492 01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:24.560 kind of thing, that disproves there being a God who 1493 01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:28.359 created us. For me, I know that's incredibly controversial and 1494 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:30.319 I lose a lot of you know, you know, support 1495 01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:38.600 because of it. But there are aspects of of the 1496 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:44.680 phenomena that people describe as God or label God that 1497 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:50.520 I'm sure are real. If you pray out there to 1498 01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:54.960 the universe, I'm sure that there are consciousness is higher consciousnesses. 1499 01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:58.880 You might say, who can come in and answer your prayers, 1500 01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:05.359 And indeed, I've known that happen. The idea of collective 1501 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:11.239 consciousnesses is an important one because it is you know, 1502 01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:14.439 it's maybe not going to happen very effectively for human beings, 1503 01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:19.439 but all around the universe there are collective consciousnesses where 1504 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:23.399 the beings do gain a telepathic psychic connection and link 1505 01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:27.720 to each other, and then their evolution progresses along the 1506 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:33.720 line of the collective strengthening. So sometimes I actively make 1507 01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:39.079 contact not with just individual aliens, but with collectives. And 1508 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:43.319 when we collect, when we communicate with collectives, it's kind 1509 01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:46.640 of like talking to God. That's what it feels like. 1510 01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:50.720 And I know that some people sometimes have felt like 1511 01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:53.880 they're in the presence of something like God. Well that's 1512 01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:59.680 an interpretation, but I think probably what's happening is they're 1513 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:04.239 connect acting with a collective. And I apologize if I've 1514 01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:08.279 offended anybody I know or a controversial subject. 1515 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:11.000 I think we're all we're all open here, man, Yeah, 1516 01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:12.520 we're all trying to figure out the truth. 1517 01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.640 So, and one of my favorite quotes is from Aristotle, 1518 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.319 who said it is the mark of an educated mind 1519 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.159 to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. 1520 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:24.840 So you know, we can. You don't have to agree 1521 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.000 to listen to somebody. You know, this is not an 1522 01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:30.319 echo chamber by any means. Everybody's entitled to their own 1523 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:32.960 opinions and experiences and stuff like that. I would never 1524 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.840 tell another person that what you believe is stupid or wrong, 1525 01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:38.640 you know, because a lot of it is based upon 1526 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:40.359 individual experiences, you know. 1527 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.199 Thank you. And the biggest message that these beings are 1528 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.439 giving to me is put peace above everything else, which 1529 01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:50.520 means that we should be putting peace above our beliefs, 1530 01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:54.279 above our politics, above any of our opinions or any 1531 01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:58.039 of our differences. And honestly, if a god existed who 1532 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:03.119 who put piece first, I'd be on board with aligning 1533 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:03.560 with him. 1534 01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:07.119 Agreed, Yeah, don't seem don't seem to be too many 1535 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:12.680 of those. So there was somebody in the chat that asked, 1536 01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:17.319 could it possibly be that they are old gods or Nephelom, 1537 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.560 maybe an Anaki, or are these. 1538 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:24.399 What are you? What are your beliefs on that? He 1539 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:25.800 has no beliefs. 1540 01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:30.039 Saying that, but what are your thoughts on that? 1541 01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:31.159 There we go? 1542 01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:35.920 So I don't know the answer. I'm thinking Nephelim. It 1543 01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:39.640 just takes me to the show Supernatural, and you know 1544 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:45.920 that's an awesome show. Well, isn't a Nephelim supposed to 1545 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.479 be an angel? Human? 1546 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:50.600 Hybrid? 1547 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:53.840 Angels came women? 1548 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:57.800 Yeah? If, And that's pretty much the story of some 1549 01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:02.720 of these alien species highybrid beings. And I think I 1550 01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:05.800 know that hybrids exist. We communicate with some of them, 1551 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:11.279 and so from that perspective, yeah, if you equate some 1552 01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:16.079 of these alien beings with angels, then yeah, nephelim. Real. 1553 01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:20.159 Oh shit, did God send the flood because of that? 1554 01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:20.479 Though? 1555 01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:27.399 I don't think so, but I don't know. 1556 01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:34.560 Yeah, yeah, DC said it might sound silly, but I 1557 01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.920 once saw three lights look like they were falling like 1558 01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.600 leaves side to side, then like a flash shot out 1559 01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:44.319 over the houses, over the water tower. I was not 1560 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:46.720 the only one who saw it. Man, people are having 1561 01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:49.520 a lot of wild experiences and it seems to be 1562 01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:53.319 ramping up a lot. Do you think that are they are? 1563 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.720 Is this kind of activity ramping up? Or has there 1564 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:01.600 been kind of a rise in consciousness that allows us 1565 01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:03.640 to be able to tap into that a little bit more? 1566 01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:06.239 What do you think is actually going on, because it 1567 01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:08.279 does seem to be happening a lot more now than 1568 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:11.640 you know then it was documented, say, thirty years ago. 1569 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:17.840 Yeah, I think it. I think it. I would find 1570 01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:20.199 it hard to prove it one way or the other, 1571 01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:23.760 because there's there's more people on the planet now than 1572 01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:29.720 there ever was before, and we have recording technologies like 1573 01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:33.000 we didn't in the past, and I think to some 1574 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:38.920 extent people understand space more. That's weird. I did just 1575 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.680 see a flashing weird object outside of my window. 1576 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.600 To go outside. 1577 01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:50.119 So I don't know the answer to that question, but 1578 01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:55.039 I will tell you that there's an acceleration towards something 1579 01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:55.960 big happening. 1580 01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:57.760 It seems that way. 1581 01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:08.720 Yeah, talking from a scientific proving kind of perspective, you know, 1582 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:13.840 we are we have been putting both carbon dioxide and 1583 01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:17.039 methane into the atmosphere like this for a good number 1584 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:21.760 of years. That is absolutely provable and verifiable to any scientist. 1585 01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:27.039 And the temperatures have been going like this, and those 1586 01:39:27.079 --> 01:39:31.720 temperatures and those gass it's all accelerating. It's not turning around. 1587 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:34.800 People can say, oh, technology is going to save us 1588 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:37.880 or aliens are going to save us. Nope, Nope, No, 1589 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:43.840 we're heading towards catastrophe and that is being shown to 1590 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.840 us in visions. They're trying to help us avoid it. 1591 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:51.680 We're not because we can't. Humanity as a species can't 1592 01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:55.520 see the reality of what's happening clearly enough in order 1593 01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:01.600 to stop it from happening. So what's going to happen 1594 01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:06.039 is the Earth is becoming hotter and less habitable and 1595 01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:10.960 we are moving into a climate catastrophe where the population 1596 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:14.119 of the planet is going to crash from billions back 1597 01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:19.199 down to probably millions. It's basically another flood. Is God 1598 01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:25.119 causing it? Well, if humans created God, then yes, you 1599 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:32.479 know it's caused by humanity, and it can be compared 1600 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:37.680 to a biblical flood. Whereby there's going to be a 1601 01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:43.239 metaphorical arc that will allow some people to move through 1602 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.760 into the future, to survive into the future, to then 1603 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:50.399 become the next stage in evolution, and it's not going 1604 01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.720 to be humans. It's going to be hybridized. It's going 1605 01:40:52.720 --> 01:41:00.439 to be genetically engineered. And what I'm trying to help 1606 01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:03.439 people to to do, like the big picture here, I'm 1607 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:07.600 trying to help people to get on that arc. And 1608 01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.279 but you're only going to be able to get on 1609 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:14.439 the arc if you can live peacefully with the other animals. 1610 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:19.239 M interesting. Hopefully it's got a really good air conditioner, 1611 01:41:19.479 --> 01:41:20.119 you know what I mean? 1612 01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:25.359 I think I think it will it will have good 1613 01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:26.079 air conditioning. 1614 01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:31.760 Somebody said, what about seeing things in the ocean, because 1615 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.039 you've seen things in the spiritual realm? 1616 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:34.760 What are they? 1617 01:41:35.439 --> 01:41:37.199 Why are they saying the same thing? 1618 01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:41.159 Okay, so what are your thoughts about just you know, 1619 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:44.239 the craft that seems to be what is the term 1620 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:46.039 submersible objects? 1621 01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:47.880 Are they? 1622 01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:50.560 Are they living in the ocean? Are they just jumping 1623 01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:52.479 through a portal? What do you think is going on there? 1624 01:41:54.000 --> 01:42:00.560 Yeah? I think there's different aliens or non humanities that 1625 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:04.159 are living all around the planet in all different habitats. 1626 01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:06.840 They're living in mountains, they're living under the ground, they're 1627 01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:13.239 living throughout the oceans. But because their technologies enable them 1628 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:20.359 to be interdimensional, we often don't see them. We only 1629 01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.439 see them when they're just passing through our little little 1630 01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:27.000 thin film of reality. But yeah, they're all over and 1631 01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.279 we communicate with a lot of them I've talked to. 1632 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:34.399 I haven't been able to establish a strong connection with 1633 01:42:34.399 --> 01:42:37.600 with ocean dwelling beings. We have gone into some of 1634 01:42:37.640 --> 01:42:47.920 their underground facilities psychically and they are banking up genes, genomes. 1635 01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.239 There are extinct species down there that they're sort of 1636 01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:59.960 taken care of. We've connected with with beings in Lake 1637 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:05.159 I called them the Eyrians, but they they told us 1638 01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:11.920 about facing environmental problems there. We're connecting with being a 1639 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:14.920 type of being that I call goblins. They're kind of 1640 01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:19.159 goblin like, but they're friendly, they're nice, they're shy, they're small, 1641 01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:23.800 with bony kind of dinosaur or dragon type tales, that's 1642 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:30.600 how people describe them. And they're they're being negatively impacted 1643 01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:34.159 by environmental problems. They they showed up to one of 1644 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:39.880 our our meetings holding one of their babies that was 1645 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:43.399 either dead or dying, and they had one one word 1646 01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:46.479 that they communicated to us my group, and that was help. 1647 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:53.399 And so the the and I'm saying this with with 1648 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:58.239 knowledge at least I know, because we've seen these beings 1649 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:04.359 in multiple locations and multiple people have seen them and 1650 01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:10.880 they always have sort of the same common characteristics. So yeah, 1651 01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:14.640 we there's there's lots of beings that live around the planet. 1652 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:18.239 Well and well, I think Bigfoot would be one of 1653 01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:18.920 those as well. 1654 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.239 Right, absolutely, Yeah. 1655 01:44:21.039 --> 01:44:21.920 So I mean. 1656 01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:25.760 Bigfoots interdimensional, right. 1657 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:27.640 Big feet? 1658 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:32.600 Is that the most funny? I never know what to bigfoots. 1659 01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:36.079 I mean, hey, we have a toothbrush. I have more 1660 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:38.359 than one of those, you know, right, exactly. 1661 01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:40.640 Yeah. 1662 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:45.279 Also another question in the chat was what about the underground, 1663 01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:51.680 underground beings possibly lizard people. Well, that would be maybe reptilian, reptilian. 1664 01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:57.640 Yeah. Now, coincidentally, I watched a program on reptilians today, 1665 01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:04.720 a documentary well full of theories about reptilians, and pretty 1666 01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:06.720 much I was swearing all the way through because it 1667 01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:13.880 was a complete misrepresentation of the reality of reptilians. You 1668 01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:16.079 don't have to look far on this world to see 1669 01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:23.399 human beings doing bad things, right, And it's easy for 1670 01:45:24.079 --> 01:45:27.279 human beings to say, no, actually, human beings are good, 1671 01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:32.119 but we're being misled. I don't that's not what I 1672 01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:36.800 see evidence. For a few years ago, I hosted an 1673 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:40.399 event in Las Vegas because there are reptilians in Las Vegas, 1674 01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:46.800 and I've had psychic friends who have seen them and 1675 01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.720 be able to see through their disguise. They can see 1676 01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:54.640 that they're reptilian, and they've telepathically in their minds. My 1677 01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:58.520 friends have said, you're not quite human, are you? And 1678 01:45:58.600 --> 01:46:03.359 the rectilians have responded by dropping their disguise and showing 1679 01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:04.640 them their reptilian faces. 1680 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:06.840 My god, I'm going to go up to every person 1681 01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:07.880 now and ask them that. 1682 01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:11.319 Yeah, do it in your mind. If you're sitting in 1683 01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:14.640 a coffee shop, look across at each person. No, not 1684 01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:21.159 coffee shops, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, sprouts, look at each person. 1685 01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:21.920 They like the organics. 1686 01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:26.319 Huh they do. Say to them, in your mind, are 1687 01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.520 you human? And if they turn around and look at 1688 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:34.199 you or rush out quickly, they're probably reptilian or talk white. 1689 01:46:34.680 --> 01:46:37.760 Holy shit. Yeah. 1690 01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:41.279 So, so I realized a few years ago that people 1691 01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:44.199 were putting these reptilians down. But the friends that I 1692 01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:47.119 have who have had encounters with them were positive. Like 1693 01:46:47.159 --> 01:46:50.359 the one I just described, This reptilian showed the woman 1694 01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:54.279 what my friend what she wanted to see, which was, yeah, 1695 01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:58.319 I'm not human, I'm reptilian. There you go. And so 1696 01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:03.039 I hosted an event in Vegas entitled Reptilians Invited, and 1697 01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:06.479 I openly invited are there any reptilians out there? I'm 1698 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:09.319 actually doing the same thing like this week on Friday, 1699 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:14.079 we're doing the same thing. We opened it up reptilians invited, 1700 01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:18.960 and we invited reptilians in disguise to come along, and 1701 01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:21.680 we set up this meeting so that we could look 1702 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:25.439 individually into the eyes of each other and let each 1703 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:30.640 other see if we were at all reptilian. Now there 1704 01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:36.119 was one contender, but nothing, nothing provable. But what happened then? 1705 01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:38.520 About two weeks later, when I was hosting an event 1706 01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:42.000 in Texas, I suddenly felt the presence of a being coming, 1707 01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:44.960 coming in and connecting with me. And I turned to 1708 01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:49.079 the humans and I said, is anybody seeing anything next 1709 01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:52.279 to me? And one woman said, yep, a reptilian just 1710 01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:55.880 appeared next to you. And I turned to the reptilian 1711 01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:59.199 and I said, you're welcome here, Thank you very much 1712 01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:03.199 for being here. A couple of weeks ago, we reached 1713 01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:06.399 out to you in friendship and peace. We would like 1714 01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:10.600 to offer our friendship to you, and the reptilian said, yeah, 1715 01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:14.039 we know. That's why we're here. We've come to be 1716 01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:17.560 your friends and to protect you. And ever since then, 1717 01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:21.840 I've had reptilians come to my events and stand guard 1718 01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:26.560 in our events. We've even had one who was called Ichod, 1719 01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:32.079 who healed, an energy healer, a professional energy healer like 1720 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:35.680 demonologists and things like this. And she had been healing 1721 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.680 all day and she had taken on some dark energies 1722 01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.119 and this reptilian, this big male reptilian, suddenly appeared in 1723 01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:45.359 front of her at my event and like sniffing her 1724 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:48.720 and stuff. And she's like, hello, who are you? And 1725 01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:53.199 it said Ichod. It's like, well, hello, ICoD, And then 1726 01:48:53.239 --> 01:48:55.359 Iicod went around to her back and put her hands 1727 01:48:55.359 --> 01:49:00.199 on her back and slowly drew out like so looking 1728 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:03.520 out the poison from her wound. And she very quickly 1729 01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:08.199 felt completely cleansed. And ever since then she's she's had 1730 01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.039 a relationship with Ikard, and Ichord works with her to 1731 01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:16.560 help clear homes that are unclean. We work with two 1732 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:20.880 two reptilian sisters and Tushusha, who actually are on the 1733 01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:27.039 Galactic Council. So Reptilians in my mind, if you go up, 1734 01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:29.640 if you're mean to them, they'll be mean back. But 1735 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:32.119 if you're nice to them, they'll be your friends. 1736 01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:37.239 Oh my god, this world is so fascinating. 1737 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:42.439 I love it so crazy. God, I love talking about 1738 01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:46.319 this stuff. This is so much fun. Well, I look, 1739 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.279 we don't want to keep you all night, and thank 1740 01:49:48.319 --> 01:49:50.039 you so much for the time that you've given us. 1741 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:53.079 This was an absolute blast. I would love to be 1742 01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:55.479 able to do it again. Maybe we can attend a 1743 01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:57.960 conference or a get together at some time. 1744 01:49:58.000 --> 01:49:59.600 We would love to be involved with that. 1745 01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:02.279 Me and always talk about, you know, going out in 1746 01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:04.960 the desert and just getting real weird and trying to 1747 01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:07.199 I mean it is real weird, but going out in 1748 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:09.880 the desert and maybe trying to have some kind of contact, 1749 01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:13.920 because you know, that's something that it's it's not too 1750 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:17.159 far of a reach. It's absolutely believable. Like I believe 1751 01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:19.520 what what you were saying. I believe you know, in 1752 01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:25.159 the experiences that you're describing, and it's just so awesome 1753 01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.479 to be able to just connect like that. 1754 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:29.520 That is so interesting to get. 1755 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:31.800 To the level of knowing, you know, like you have 1756 01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:34.600 an experience like that, Like you know, Rupert was saying, 1757 01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:37.600 he doesn't have beliefs, you know, so everything he's he's experienced, 1758 01:50:37.640 --> 01:50:40.439 it's like he knows because he's he was there right, 1759 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.239 know what I mean, And so like I would love 1760 01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.000 to have an experience like that. 1761 01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:49.760 Yeah, dude, well you inviteed to my events. Absolutely awesome. 1762 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:51.720 Yes, it will be out there. 1763 01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:53.720 Do you have any coming up in Arizona over the 1764 01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:55.479 next six or eight months. 1765 01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:00.920 Not that I've put on my schedule yet, but almost 1766 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:05.279 certainly yes, because I'm going to go back to Arizona, definitely, 1767 01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:10.399 to Sedona. I host events in Phoenix also, you know 1768 01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:17.159 the Travis Walton area, Snowflake what's it called, I can't 1769 01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:20.520 remember what it's called, but the Sitgreaves National Forest Area. 1770 01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:23.920 So yeah, I will definitely be coming to Arizona in 1771 01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:24.840 the next few months. 1772 01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:27.800 That'd be great. That'd be great. We'll be looking forward 1773 01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:28.039 to it. 1774 01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:30.760 Yeah, we'll be looking out for that. DC said, how 1775 01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:31.600 about Ontario? 1776 01:51:33.399 --> 01:51:39.960 I have not been to Ontario yet? Wait, is that again? 1777 01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:43.000 I have? That's is that on the northern shore of 1778 01:51:43.239 --> 01:51:49.319 Lake Erie. My geography is terrible. I would love to 1779 01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:53.279 get all around. And now that you've said Ontario, I 1780 01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:56.600 will make note of that and go ahead and join 1781 01:51:56.680 --> 01:52:01.600 my my group, follow me on TikTok all track, and 1782 01:52:01.680 --> 01:52:04.439 I will certainly publish my tour schedules. 1783 01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:09.039 Awesome, can't wait. Nick, Did you have anything that you 1784 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.880 wanted to ask specifically, sir? You know I was actually 1785 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.680 kind of hoping that you were going to tune in 1786 01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:15.239 a little bit more. You must have been a little 1787 01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:17.760 busy tonight with all of your experiences. 1788 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:21.159 Yeah, no, I was trying to finish up some work 1789 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:23.479 and listen at the same time. But honestly, no, I 1790 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:27.760 was just enjoying. I was just enjoying listening to all 1791 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.920 of his stories, to be honest, so much fun. 1792 01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:32.239 Yeah. 1793 01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:36.000 Well, and I really appreciate the approach on all of 1794 01:52:36.039 --> 01:52:38.479 your findings and the things that you're looking into as 1795 01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:42.279 far as you know, remaining skeptical and using the scientific 1796 01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:44.319 background that you have, and I think that's what we 1797 01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:48.560 need as far as the spiritual, the scientific, everything kind 1798 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.319 of put together, you know, and really trying to discern 1799 01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:54.920 the difference of the truth and the bull If you will. 1800 01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:56.239 Thank you. 1801 01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:56.800 I love it. 1802 01:52:57.720 --> 01:52:59.840 And for anybody that wants to be able to reach 1803 01:52:59.880 --> 01:53:03.119 out and follow you that would Is it only TikTok 1804 01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.800 at at orb trek or do you have other places 1805 01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:07.760 that they can find you as well. 1806 01:53:08.039 --> 01:53:10.920 The center of my activity is I have a Patreon 1807 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:16.760 group which is patreon dot com stroke ruput scroup no 1808 01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:22.039 apostrophe ruputs group. There's a free membership option and if 1809 01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.840 you sign up for that, you'll you'll get sent email 1810 01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:28.680 notifications of all my upcoming events. I host a weekly 1811 01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.560 usually on a Saturday. I host a weekly free event. 1812 01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:34.840 But if you really like what I'm doing, I want 1813 01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:37.079 to get involved, then join one of my tears. 1814 01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:38.079 Awesome. 1815 01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.760 This was a great conversation. We'll definitely be keeping up 1816 01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:42.399 with you, Rupert. 1817 01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:43.680 This was this was awesome. 1818 01:53:43.720 --> 01:53:45.199 Thank you so much for coming to hang out with 1819 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.520 us tonight, and we'll keep in touch with you and uh, 1820 01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:50.399 you know, reach out if you ever want to come 1821 01:53:50.439 --> 01:53:51.119 back on brother. 1822 01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:54.600 Thank you Jonathan, thank you Sean, and thank you everybody 1823 01:53:54.600 --> 01:53:58.720 that's here that has been listening. I've really enjoyed my conversations. 1824 01:53:58.079 --> 01:54:00.920 With you, all right, I appreciate that braving man. 1825 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.960 That being said, Sean, we do have a tarot card, sir, 1826 01:54:08.239 --> 01:54:10.079 that you would like to get to. 1827 01:54:10.920 --> 01:54:14.680 Yes, we got the Ace of Swords this fine evening, 1828 01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:18.079 which I think is appropriate. 1829 01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:20.720 I feel like Ace of Swords. 1830 01:54:20.760 --> 01:54:23.760 Okay, let me find that real quick. We just do 1831 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.439 a one card pool, you know, keep it simple, just 1832 01:54:26.479 --> 01:54:28.680 to just to kind of see if it goes along 1833 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:30.600 with what we've been talking about on the show and 1834 01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:34.520 if there's any kind of correlations. Yeah, and you know, 1835 01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:36.960 usually there there is, usually there's something that you can 1836 01:54:37.039 --> 01:54:39.880 pull from it and go, oh, that's that's pretty fascinating. 1837 01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:44.600 Yeah, yeah, uh so the Ace of Swords. The Ace 1838 01:54:44.640 --> 01:54:46.880 of Swords brings you the gift of a new beginning 1839 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:50.199 by offering clear insight and new ideas. On this card, 1840 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:52.600 we see the hand of the Divine emerging from a cloud, 1841 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.319 offering a single sword with a crown atop it. The 1842 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:58.359 crown is symbolic of consciousness and clear ideas that have 1843 01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.640 been received and are ready to be put into action, 1844 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:03.359 as shown by the ferns that dangle from it, resembling 1845 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:06.560 a wreath of victory. Beneath the hand and sword is 1846 01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:09.520 a mountain range, representing the ability of the higher self 1847 01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:13.479 to see far above the ground to receive this divine insight. 1848 01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:19.960 Itude, lifting up your consciousness to be able to receive 1849 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:24.000 said messages or interactions with said entities. 1850 01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:28.560 Come on, now, perfect I love the message. All right, well, 1851 01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:31.039 I think we will wrap it up right there. I 1852 01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:35.520 think it perfectly correlated with the episode. So great conversation. 1853 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:38.159 Thank you everybody for joining us. If you would like 1854 01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:40.399 to be able to join us in the meditation. Just 1855 01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:43.239 hang tight. And also, if you want to be able 1856 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:47.279 to follow and support and come join us on these 1857 01:55:47.319 --> 01:55:51.960 Wednesday nights for the Metamistics Live show, come to patreon 1858 01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:54.439 dot com slash metamistics. That link is down the show 1859 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:56.640 notes below and sign up for the Wonder Wiz Day 1860 01:55:56.720 --> 01:55:59.119 Tier and over there you'll get access to all the 1861 01:55:59.159 --> 01:56:00.880 shows a few days in advance. You'd be able to 1862 01:56:00.880 --> 01:56:03.000 listen to the show's completely commercial free. You'll be able 1863 01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.760 to slide into our messages over there. Maybe you have 1864 01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:08.359 an idea for a show or something like that, or 1865 01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:10.560 maybe you just want to drop in and say hi. 1866 01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:12.399 That whatever you would like to do. 1867 01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:15.399 We are keeping up on those messages on the daily 1868 01:56:15.439 --> 01:56:18.159 and we appreciate everybody that has come and support us 1869 01:56:18.159 --> 01:56:22.039 in that way. But Shawn, any parting messages with you, sir. 1870 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:25.680 Oh man, this was just a very fascinating. It's everything 1871 01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:28.640 I wanted in this episode, you know. And to repeat 1872 01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:30.119 what I was saying earlier as far as the whole 1873 01:56:30.159 --> 01:56:33.800 scientific approach, I really that's I really appreciate that, man, 1874 01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:34.399 Thank you. 1875 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.600 Perfect all right, Well, everybody else hanged tight and we 1876 01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:40.119 are going to get over to that meditation. 1877 01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:41.119 But look, if. 1878 01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:44.319 Rupert came here and he taught you anything. 1879 01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:48.159 It's that you don't know what you don't know, so don't. 1880 01:56:48.119 --> 01:57:05.720 Just get weird, stay weird. Wow that was that was otherworldly, bro, 1881 01:57:06.119 --> 01:57:11.439 Like I didn't expect to have anything like really profound 1882 01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:13.920 or anything like that happened because it took me a 1883 01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:15.920 little minute, Like I think like it took me like 1884 01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:20.000 five or six minutes to really get into that. Maybe 1885 01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:23.760 it's because a lack of sleep or whatever. But whenever 1886 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:27.760 I finally did get into that super deep meditative state, dude, 1887 01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:28.840 I was seeing shit. 1888 01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:30.600 Like like. 1889 01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:35.560 More so than most other times, you know. And I'm 1890 01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:39.520 I mean, so at first I saw it was like this, 1891 01:57:41.159 --> 01:57:44.960 so water is always level, right, it's always horizontal, but 1892 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:49.079 I was able to in this meditative vision. I guess 1893 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.279 it was like water was standing straight up, almost as 1894 01:57:52.279 --> 01:57:55.760 if it was a divider between worlds that you know, 1895 01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:59.399 our world has the air, the other world of the 1896 01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:01.720 other realm or whatever, and it was divided by the 1897 01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:07.479 sheath of water right standing vertically up. And and like 1898 01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:13.560 there was this like amphibian looking alien and and she 1899 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:20.760 was like blue and green and like purple, and dude 1900 01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:25.680 had like fins and shit, you know, like on on 1901 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:29.000 the back and on the arms and stuff, right, and 1902 01:58:29.319 --> 01:58:31.199 you know, she was like just putting her hand up 1903 01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:34.239 against like the water or something like that, and up 1904 01:58:34.239 --> 01:58:37.119 against me. And I was like, wow, this I I'm 1905 01:58:37.159 --> 01:58:39.479 not making this up, you know, like I wouldn't even 1906 01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:43.439 think of something like this. And then it was like 1907 01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:49.439 we were taken to like where like where we lived 1908 01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:53.680 or something like that, and it was like this crazy 1909 01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:57.039 sunset and we were like in the water. So that's 1910 01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:00.279 why I think Amphibian like could be on land in 1911 01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.319 water either way. Right, we were in this water and 1912 01:59:03.399 --> 01:59:08.239 looking at this sunset. But it was like so fantastical 1913 01:59:08.439 --> 01:59:12.119 the sunset was and we were just living, like just 1914 01:59:12.159 --> 01:59:14.039 swimming and that's like what we did. 1915 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:14.600 You know. 1916 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:16.760 It wasn't like a, oh, we're gonna go to the 1917 01:59:16.760 --> 01:59:19.359 pool today. No, It's like that's our life, you know 1918 01:59:19.439 --> 01:59:23.199 what I'm saying. And and it was just so peaceful 1919 01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:26.119 and the ambiance of the entire thing and all the 1920 01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:29.920 the amazing colors, I mean colors that you don't see 1921 01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:33.760 in reality, you know, the the oranges and the purples, 1922 01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:37.359 and like the sky was like orange and purple. The 1923 01:59:37.399 --> 01:59:43.680 water was like purpleish green, but very like mystical in 1924 01:59:43.720 --> 01:59:46.560 a sense. And it just seemed like I went somewhere 1925 01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:50.239 because why I've never even pictured anything like that in 1926 01:59:50.279 --> 01:59:50.680 my mind. 1927 01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:55.760 You know what I'm saying, I don't know, somewhere. And 1928 01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:57.600 then I got up out of that meditation. I was tearing. 1929 01:59:57.840 --> 01:59:59.039 I was like, what is going on? 1930 02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:03.800 Yeah, that's amazing, dude, that's amazing. I you know, It's 1931 02:00:03.800 --> 02:00:08.159 funny because I've had experiences, you know, where I would 1932 02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:10.600 see like a circle, you know, and it would kind 1933 02:00:10.600 --> 02:00:12.840 of like fade away from me or whatever. And this 1934 02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:16.119 is just this isn't of the imagination. This is like 1935 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:19.199 stuff happening just with you know, my eyes closed. And 1936 02:00:20.119 --> 02:00:22.159 before I've had times where I'm like, well, you know, 1937 02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:25.520 I'm staring into a ring light, you know, and maybe 1938 02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:27.239 that there's a little bit to do with that, and 1939 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:30.079 it's playing into what it is that I'm seeing. But 1940 02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:33.000 I don't have a ring light anymore, and so these 1941 02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:36.279 are like little individual like led strips or whatever. So 1942 02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:39.439 that circle thing came in and it was like, I 1943 02:00:39.439 --> 02:00:41.960 don't know, it's really strange. It'll pop in and then 1944 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:43.720 it just kind of as soon as I start to 1945 02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:46.079 really notice it or pay attention to it. It just 1946 02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:48.560 kind of fades away, you know. And this isn't in 1947 02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:51.800 the in the third eye. This is like me staring 1948 02:00:51.880 --> 02:00:56.239 into my my my eyes, your physical eyes, my physical eyelids. 1949 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:58.720 And sometimes there's things there are shapes and things that 1950 02:00:58.760 --> 02:01:02.680 pop in and with my my intrigue, you know, when 1951 02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:07.159 it comes to the subconscious and the symbols and different 1952 02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:10.760 things that my subconscious may be trying to tell me 1953 02:01:10.800 --> 02:01:12.439 that that's what I was looking for. I was looking 1954 02:01:12.439 --> 02:01:14.920 for maybe some symbols or maybe and I just kept 1955 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:18.439 seeing like this, the circle, you know, that kept popping up, 1956 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:20.720 and it was it was almost like it had like 1957 02:01:21.479 --> 02:01:26.039 little bits of detail somehow, not really super obviously, not 1958 02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:29.760 super detailed, but just noticeable, you know. And and I 1959 02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:31.960 don't know, that was the only thing that I really experienced, 1960 02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:35.359 you know, But why why the circle? Why? You know, 1961 02:01:35.479 --> 02:01:38.560 I have no idea. But then we're talking about orbs 1962 02:01:38.600 --> 02:01:40.880 and we're talking about UFOs and we're talking so there's 1963 02:01:40.920 --> 02:01:43.760 different things going on in the mind, I think. But 1964 02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:46.399 but yeah, that's pretty much what I experienced. Man, Wow, 1965 02:01:46.640 --> 02:01:50.439 too fantastical. I didn't get an awesome sunset or nothing, 1966 02:01:50.479 --> 02:01:53.039 but still dude, was like, I felt good though. 1967 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:57.399 Oh yeh dude, what we need to do those more often? 1968 02:01:57.640 --> 02:01:59.319 That was really good? 1969 02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:02.439 Ilt it all the way to my fingertips, dude, you know, 1970 02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:04.640 like all throughout. 1971 02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:10.760 What a fire meditation shout out to them? Yeah, dude, honestly, 1972 02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:13.760 it almost just reminded me of like an even more 1973 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:18.399 like a like a thousand times better version of Avatar, 1974 02:02:18.680 --> 02:02:21.560 and Avatar is awesome, Like the visuals there are great, 1975 02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:25.600 right and all in those movies. This was like that 1976 02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:28.159 on ninety thousand steroids. 1977 02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:30.359 It was just for Eco, right. 1978 02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:34.000 It kind of reminded me of Yeah, And dude, I 1979 02:02:34.319 --> 02:02:37.720 started to notice that, like as I was drifting deeper 1980 02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:42.560 into that meditation that I almost felt like my energy 1981 02:02:42.600 --> 02:02:44.640 body or whatever was trying to jump out. 1982 02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:47.760 You were getting lighter, dude, you felt lighter. 1983 02:02:48.479 --> 02:02:50.960 We need to mess with that a little bit more, dude. Yeah, 1984 02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:51.800 that's next level. 1985 02:02:52.520 --> 02:02:54.399 There was something I wanted to tell you that happened. 1986 02:02:54.760 --> 02:02:57.359 Not wasn't this morning. I think it was yesterday morning. 1987 02:02:57.920 --> 02:03:00.760 I will you know how you explained, Sometimes you'll wake 1988 02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:04.119 up with a song in your head and and I'm like, 1989 02:03:04.159 --> 02:03:05.640 you know, I wish that would happen to me, that 1990 02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:08.399 never really happens to me. And dude, yesterday morning, I 1991 02:03:08.439 --> 02:03:12.600 woke up with this song. It was the one that goes, 1992 02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:14.680 oh shit. It was in my head all day today. 1993 02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:18.079 Now I can't fucking oh life could be a dream 1994 02:03:18.640 --> 02:03:21.520 and that you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1995 02:03:21.560 --> 02:03:22.920 that was in my head when I woke up, Like 1996 02:03:22.920 --> 02:03:25.600 as soon as my eyes it was almost like I 1997 02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:28.000 was hearing the song in my dream. Woke up and 1998 02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:31.439 it was just in my head, and so, I don't know, 1999 02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:34.119 it was pretty cool, pretty interesting, you know, coming off 2000 02:03:34.159 --> 02:03:37.119 of the episode that we had just done and everything 2001 02:03:37.199 --> 02:03:40.520 kind of being of you and what you perceive and 2002 02:03:40.680 --> 02:03:42.720 just you know, I don't know, I just thought that 2003 02:03:42.800 --> 02:03:43.600 was interesting. 2004 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:45.319 Yeah, dude, that is awesome. 2005 02:03:45.359 --> 02:03:46.039 And I'll tell you what. 2006 02:03:46.119 --> 02:03:50.159 It happened so often that I don't even like I'm 2007 02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:54.039 almost like only subconsciously paying attention to it, you know that, 2008 02:03:54.359 --> 02:03:57.039 Like it's playing in the background, but I'm not even 2009 02:03:57.199 --> 02:04:00.520 almost consciously aware of it until I bring my conscious 2010 02:04:00.560 --> 02:04:03.199 to it. It's like playing in the background every time 2011 02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:03.760 I wake up. 2012 02:04:04.119 --> 02:04:06.760 I feel like that there's there's something there that you 2013 02:04:06.760 --> 02:04:09.359 could be utilizing, you know what I mean, Like if 2014 02:04:09.359 --> 02:04:12.199 your subconscious mind is telling you something or hinting at 2015 02:04:12.199 --> 02:04:15.279 something or noticed something that you didn't, which is what 2016 02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:19.039 it's doing ultimately, you know, And so I don't know, 2017 02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:21.960 maybe pay attention to that. Maybe it's trying to let 2018 02:04:21.960 --> 02:04:23.000 you know something. Yeah. 2019 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:25.079 Well, I mean we've talked to people that said, you 2020 02:04:25.079 --> 02:04:26.439 know what, you should go back and look at the 2021 02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:29.239 lyrics and maybe there's something that sticks out, you know, 2022 02:04:29.439 --> 02:04:32.640 in each one of those songs. Yeah, I need to 2023 02:04:32.680 --> 02:04:36.399 start doing that because coming to the kind of understanding 2024 02:04:36.399 --> 02:04:38.840 that we came to in the last episode, I almost 2025 02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:40.800 need to look at that in a little bit different 2026 02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:44.319 of a way, now, you know, because if that is, 2027 02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:46.239 you know, let's just say, for a lack of a 2028 02:04:46.279 --> 02:04:50.359 better term, the highest version of me that is sending 2029 02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:55.199 me some kind of cryptic message of sorts'd be. 2030 02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:57.359 Pretty cool to see what the hell that message is, 2031 02:04:57.399 --> 02:04:57.600 you know. 2032 02:04:57.680 --> 02:05:00.079 Yeah, dude, the version of you that's counting all of 2033 02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:04.279 your breaths, you know, that is observing all. You know 2034 02:05:04.279 --> 02:05:06.119 what I'm saying. I feel like that version of you 2035 02:05:06.640 --> 02:05:09.439 knows a little something and it's time to pay attention. 2036 02:05:10.159 --> 02:05:11.000 You know. Good stuff. 2037 02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:15.960 Yeah, anybody else have any awesome meditations? 2038 02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:18.079 Uh? 2039 02:05:18.239 --> 02:05:25.399 Nick? Nick. I thought Nick took off. Oh he didn't 2040 02:05:25.399 --> 02:05:25.840 take off. 2041 02:05:26.119 --> 02:05:26.600 Yeah. 2042 02:05:27.039 --> 02:05:28.279 If I say something, guys. 2043 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:30.520 Yeah, sure, what's your name by the way, it says iPhone. 2044 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:33.159 Oh well actually it's iPhone. 2045 02:05:34.520 --> 02:05:39.560 Yeah. My name is Brian by the way, Brian. Yeah, 2046 02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:42.880 it's a pleasure to meet you both. So what I 2047 02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:46.319 actually had was and I talked to him chat and 2048 02:05:46.520 --> 02:05:49.279 it's awesome than a new guy but new kid and town. 2049 02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:54.039 But with my meditation, what I had was absolutely amazing. 2050 02:05:56.079 --> 02:05:56.960 It's similar to. 2051 02:05:56.880 --> 02:06:00.439 What you said about the waterfalls. But what I saw 2052 02:06:01.039 --> 02:06:07.760 was actually a unicorn that was mixed with a kind 2053 02:06:07.760 --> 02:06:11.640 of like an alien princess in a way, if you 2054 02:06:11.680 --> 02:06:12.479 get what I'm saying. 2055 02:06:13.640 --> 02:06:17.119 So you know how the guest was talking about. 2056 02:06:16.920 --> 02:06:20.319 Alien princesses and that kind of stuff, but the princess 2057 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:23.239 was like Nordic in a way. 2058 02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:27.079 So that's what I felt that it was. 2059 02:06:27.119 --> 02:06:30.159 Actually it was like a waterfall with like flowing things, 2060 02:06:30.199 --> 02:06:33.039 and there was a city behind it and it was 2061 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:35.199 like a Dark Tower city. I don't know if your 2062 02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:38.119 guys are in the Stephen King novels or anything like that. 2063 02:06:38.319 --> 02:06:39.399 I'm a big fan. 2064 02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:41.880 I don't know. If you've read The Dark Tower, you 2065 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:48.720 should read it. Amazing novel, Yeah you should, great series, 2066 02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:58.439 But what I saw was basically, all right, my guy 2067 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:08.479 a new friend there, but. 2068 02:07:07.760 --> 02:07:08.800 Yeah, that guy. 2069 02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:13.479 But but pretty much what I experienced was that, and 2070 02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:18.760 then also a factor of gold actually empowered us being 2071 02:07:18.760 --> 02:07:23.680 personified towards Earth in a way. And you noticed I 2072 02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:26.840 was talking about an Anaki with the guests because he 2073 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:28.479 was talking about aliens. 2074 02:07:28.039 --> 02:07:28.800 And stuff like that. 2075 02:07:31.039 --> 02:07:33.479 I believe with the whole thing that's going on with 2076 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:36.640 society and right now. And call me a tinpoile, that 2077 02:07:36.760 --> 02:07:40.840 guy a conspiracy guy, but pretty much what I believe 2078 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:46.000 is it's a it's kind of like a cleaning of 2079 02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:52.239 us in this meditation, the cleaning of the negative spirits 2080 02:07:52.279 --> 02:07:54.840 that are actually around us and that are trying to 2081 02:07:55.399 --> 02:07:57.920 harm us, but are trying to make us better. And 2082 02:07:57.960 --> 02:08:01.079 that's why I think you guys saw the waterfall and 2083 02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:02.479 the flowing waterfalls on that. 2084 02:08:03.079 --> 02:08:04.039 That's just my opinion. 2085 02:08:04.880 --> 02:08:06.560 I love it, and I'm gonna be honest with you. 2086 02:08:06.600 --> 02:08:08.640 I feel like every time we meditate, there's a little 2087 02:08:08.680 --> 02:08:11.119 bit of that going on, whether we know it or not, 2088 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:13.960 or whether we see it symbolically or whether we really 2089 02:08:14.000 --> 02:08:16.920 feel it. I feel like that's always happening, you know 2090 02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:17.960 at some level. 2091 02:08:18.880 --> 02:08:21.920 Yeah, and it's it's beautiful as the first time with 2092 02:08:22.960 --> 02:08:24.399 my third eye opened as. 2093 02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:31.600 I say, you know, it's the Uh. 2094 02:08:32.720 --> 02:08:36.319 Well, you had mentioned something about the gold, that is, 2095 02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:38.439 what were you saying about that the gold is almost 2096 02:08:38.439 --> 02:08:39.279 like powering the. 2097 02:08:39.279 --> 02:08:41.640 Gold was actually yeah, it was like empowering. 2098 02:08:41.680 --> 02:08:44.239 It was like flowing down and actually making us new 2099 02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:45.840 in a way. 2100 02:08:46.079 --> 02:08:48.600 Let me out here for a second. 2101 02:08:49.000 --> 02:08:51.640 Okay, let me trip you out for a second, because 2102 02:08:51.800 --> 02:08:55.880 there's something that I recently heard, you know how in 2103 02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:57.119 uh what was it like? 2104 02:08:57.399 --> 02:08:58.560 Uh? 2105 02:08:58.800 --> 02:08:59.039 Fuck? 2106 02:08:59.199 --> 02:09:02.279 I think it's in rev Elation or something like that 2107 02:09:02.319 --> 02:09:05.279 in the Bible where it talks about Ezekiel's wheel, which 2108 02:09:05.319 --> 02:09:08.880 is essentially like the eyeball that's like, you know, it 2109 02:09:08.920 --> 02:09:10.520 has a bunch of rings around it and maybe it's 2110 02:09:10.520 --> 02:09:13.399 a bunch of eyeballs kind of thing. And somebody had 2111 02:09:13.399 --> 02:09:16.960 mentioned because allegedly there's a video that somebody took with 2112 02:09:17.000 --> 02:09:22.039 their telescope of that very thing and it looks every 2113 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:26.319 bit of a crazy and wild and almost scary. But 2114 02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:32.479 then somebody mentioned, well, there actually is a hypothesis. I 2115 02:09:32.479 --> 02:09:36.079 guess scientists came up with this idea that if you're 2116 02:09:36.359 --> 02:09:38.880 trying to almost like protect your planet. You know, in 2117 02:09:38.920 --> 02:09:41.560 the future, you're trying to protect your planet. You have 2118 02:09:41.600 --> 02:09:45.119 some kind of thing that would be bringing power into it, 2119 02:09:45.159 --> 02:09:47.960 maybe for a dying star. You know, if a planet 2120 02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:50.560 is on its way out, then you're and you're trying 2121 02:09:50.600 --> 02:09:53.920 to conserve it. Well, if you're technologically advanced enough, you 2122 02:09:53.920 --> 02:09:56.960 would create what is called a Dyson sphere. 2123 02:09:57.079 --> 02:09:57.800 Yeah. 2124 02:09:57.479 --> 02:09:59.000 Yeah, and. 2125 02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:04.119 Dude, I maybe I looked it up before, but I 2126 02:10:04.439 --> 02:10:09.000 was just holy shit. I mean that's kind of crazy looking. 2127 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:12.079 Right, I mean if you think about it, like with 2128 02:10:12.199 --> 02:10:14.560 the are you talking about the angels with all eyes? 2129 02:10:15.319 --> 02:10:18.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2130 02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:21.720 I've seen that before myself in the Revelation books as well, 2131 02:10:21.800 --> 02:10:27.520 because I've studied actually, you know, ancient religion and that 2132 02:10:27.560 --> 02:10:29.640 kind of stuff, which I hope to see you guys again, 2133 02:10:29.960 --> 02:10:32.680 and I'll talk more about that with you guys, you know, 2134 02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:37.800 like after the guest of course, but with the ancient angels, 2135 02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:42.600 like I feel that like we haven't discovered anything on 2136 02:10:43.159 --> 02:10:49.520 like what the True Texts has been telling us as 2137 02:10:49.560 --> 02:10:52.960 of recently. Because if you studying Enoch and all that stuff, 2138 02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:55.840 That's why I was asking about some Nephelim and all 2139 02:10:55.880 --> 02:10:56.600 that stuff, so that. 2140 02:10:56.600 --> 02:10:59.720 Shit is real. That shit is real. Well, that shit happens. 2141 02:10:59.760 --> 02:11:01.920 And thing is with the guests that I was talking about, 2142 02:11:01.960 --> 02:11:05.039 you know, like with the ancient aliens. I mean, I'm 2143 02:11:05.079 --> 02:11:07.039 sorry to interrupt, going. 2144 02:11:07.520 --> 02:11:08.159 No, go ahead. 2145 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:13.000 Yeah, but with the with the nephelm when he was 2146 02:11:13.720 --> 02:11:16.479 why I asked about nephl is with the aliens that 2147 02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:23.319 he was experienced with the the I guess the females 2148 02:11:23.439 --> 02:11:26.880 that were trying to be with him. I mean it 2149 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:29.039 makes sense, right, you know. 2150 02:11:29.159 --> 02:11:32.520 Yeah, Well in I got diddled by an alien one time. 2151 02:11:32.600 --> 02:11:33.159 That was fun. 2152 02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:38.640 M I was a little started, big spoon, but then 2153 02:11:38.680 --> 02:11:40.600 she was like, you're doing it wrong. 2154 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:41.159 I'll show you. 2155 02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:45.039 Right, that's what d n T does, doesn't it. 2156 02:11:46.119 --> 02:11:49.319 Yeah, yeah, that was actually for Ago, well for Acho 2157 02:11:49.359 --> 02:11:50.199 dm T. Yeah, but. 2158 02:11:51.800 --> 02:11:54.359 Man, I'm just due for a trip. But yeah, but honestly, 2159 02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.720 this is a seraphim. I think it's called, right, Yeah, seraphim. 2160 02:11:58.800 --> 02:12:00.720 That's what I was trying to ask about them. I 2161 02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:02.439 don't know if you saw it in the comments. Yeah, 2162 02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:03.800 with the surfer, Yeah. 2163 02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:06.600 It's supposed to be like an eye with rings and 2164 02:12:06.640 --> 02:12:10.079 then wings. Dude, you want to talk about one of 2165 02:12:10.119 --> 02:12:12.800 the imagine looking at this while you're tripping. 2166 02:12:12.520 --> 02:12:15.560 Balls O my god, Oh dude, I can imagine, Like 2167 02:12:15.920 --> 02:12:17.880 what I saw on my first d MT trip was 2168 02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:22.640 actually didn't in Huh, where you guys look at If 2169 02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:25.359 you don't like what? Where did you try the GMT. 2170 02:12:25.520 --> 02:12:27.119 I'm not going to tell you where you're located, but 2171 02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:29.359 where we Where did you try the MT in the forest? 2172 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:30.760 No? 2173 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:33.359 I actually did it inside of an airbnb. 2174 02:12:34.359 --> 02:12:37.000 Oh dude, you need to do anen force because if 2175 02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:38.600 you do an in force you can see the moon, 2176 02:12:38.640 --> 02:12:39.720 gods and all that stuff. 2177 02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:40.159 Dude. 2178 02:12:40.359 --> 02:12:43.920 Oh well, actually, I mean I I went full on internal. 2179 02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:46.840 I wasn't looking out. I started out with my eyes open, 2180 02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:51.600 and then our resonant shaman said close your eyes. 2181 02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:52.960 You'll see a lot more. 2182 02:12:53.159 --> 02:12:56.520 And so I closed my eyes and and and we 2183 02:12:56.720 --> 02:12:58.880 I already kind of knew to do that anyway, just 2184 02:12:58.920 --> 02:13:01.159 with all the different four Aco trips, because for Ego, 2185 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:04.039 you know, it's it's a great time with your eyes open. 2186 02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:06.279 Don't get me wrong, it's still a great time. But 2187 02:13:06.439 --> 02:13:09.399 you close your eyes, dude, you are seeing something that 2188 02:13:09.479 --> 02:13:13.239 your your mind breaks trying to comprehend what it is. 2189 02:13:15.880 --> 02:13:18.920 Like with M It isn't possible to describe, but it 2190 02:13:19.399 --> 02:13:22.880 doesn't break your mind, it actually mends it. 2191 02:13:24.279 --> 02:13:27.039 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the the the actual 2192 02:13:27.159 --> 02:13:30.479 DMT that I did that one time. It was well, 2193 02:13:31.119 --> 02:13:32.960 I don't know if it mended my mind or just 2194 02:13:33.000 --> 02:13:33.960 broke me, but. 2195 02:13:34.319 --> 02:13:37.600 Well, I mean, like, look at what you're doing right now, brother, Oh. 2196 02:13:37.560 --> 02:13:41.119 Yeah, I mean there's been an absolute evolution of this show, like, 2197 02:13:41.319 --> 02:13:45.800 and I attribute a lot of that to psychedelics. Honestly, 2198 02:13:46.079 --> 02:13:49.199 like most of the stuff we look into, we're looking 2199 02:13:49.279 --> 02:13:53.479 at it through the lens of our experiences with psychedelics. 2200 02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:58.960 I've never done DMT. I've heard mix reactions and just 2201 02:13:59.039 --> 02:14:03.439 hearing from you guys and other people, it's been uh 2202 02:14:04.479 --> 02:14:06.840 like you literally mixed like fifty to fifty, you know. 2203 02:14:06.920 --> 02:14:10.119 And I've done a lot of LSD and uh LSD. 2204 02:14:10.720 --> 02:14:12.920 Every time i've done it, it's just been a farce, 2205 02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:15.680 like a laugh. And shrooms are even better than that actually, 2206 02:14:15.760 --> 02:14:18.840 so I wouldn't even recommend Yeah, shrooms are the ship, dude, 2207 02:14:18.920 --> 02:14:20.520 I wouldn't even recommend LSD. 2208 02:14:21.720 --> 02:14:25.239 Yeah, yeah, the yeah, shrims are the ship, you know what. 2209 02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:28.359 Fucking Yeah. 2210 02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:31.239 I smoke weed a lot too, the. 2211 02:14:30.600 --> 02:14:34.079 Same here, but yeah, the mushrooms, I had really great 2212 02:14:34.119 --> 02:14:36.640 experiences on mushrooms as well. I just can't stand that 2213 02:14:36.640 --> 02:14:38.520 they last so damn long, dude. I'm not trying to 2214 02:14:38.560 --> 02:14:41.520 trip balls for eight hours, you know, yeah. 2215 02:14:41.319 --> 02:14:43.600 Man, Yeah, you got to have a long weekend. 2216 02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:47.199 Yeah, you know, I got I got dishes to wash 2217 02:14:47.199 --> 02:14:47.560 and ship. 2218 02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:48.359 You know what I'm saying. 2219 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:52.319 Do you work at fucking uh six? Uh? Seven? Man? 2220 02:14:53.119 --> 02:14:53.279 Oh? 2221 02:14:53.399 --> 02:14:53.640 Ship? 2222 02:14:55.199 --> 02:14:56.840 Six seven? Is that? 2223 02:14:56.880 --> 02:14:59.960 I mean you've been hearing the six sevens. 2224 02:14:59.720 --> 02:15:02.199 And I to five. It's a I work out a 2225 02:15:02.239 --> 02:15:06.279 lot of hours, but here in Canada where it's torture, dude. 2226 02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:08.039 I don't know if you guys have heard. 2227 02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:09.119 But yeah, it's comedy. 2228 02:15:09.640 --> 02:15:10.079 Help us. 2229 02:15:10.239 --> 02:15:11.680 I'll turn into comedies up there. 2230 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:15.960 But that mean somebody the conversion rate is. 2231 02:15:17.840 --> 02:15:20.039 Yeah, DC. I have to ask, like, how do you 2232 02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:21.640 on your meditation? 2233 02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:22.079 Buddy? 2234 02:15:24.520 --> 02:15:25.840 So which one? Specific? 2235 02:15:25.920 --> 02:15:26.000 So? 2236 02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:26.960 Sorry? What'd you say? 2237 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.720 What your your meditation? How did you feel? 2238 02:15:32.720 --> 02:15:40.279 I felt kind of so I wasn't there for the 2239 02:15:40.279 --> 02:15:43.479 whole thing, so I kept walking away. But I have 2240 02:15:43.640 --> 02:15:47.199 like a short attention span, and that tends to happen. 2241 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:51.640 But the whole time I was there, it just every 2242 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:54.880 meditation I do it just I can't help. But the 2243 02:15:54.960 --> 02:15:57.640 focus on like my family and stuff and like my 2244 02:15:57.720 --> 02:16:01.079 friends around me and stuff less so like every meditation 2245 02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:05.880 turns into what I actually know to be like a prayer, 2246 02:16:06.039 --> 02:16:09.479 right like, and I can't help that. It's not like 2247 02:16:09.520 --> 02:16:12.319 I'm trying to do that, but like, so one time 2248 02:16:12.359 --> 02:16:16.159 I was hypnotized by this amateur hypnotist and he made 2249 02:16:16.159 --> 02:16:21.479 me believe I had become a millionaire and or sorry 2250 02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:24.359 multiple there was five of us. He he made us 2251 02:16:24.680 --> 02:16:27.640 the group believe we became millionaires. And they were all 2252 02:16:27.640 --> 02:16:30.680 like dancing and stuff, and I was panicking. I'm like, yo, 2253 02:16:30.720 --> 02:16:33.200 where does money come from? Like this isn't my money, 2254 02:16:33.280 --> 02:16:35.040 Like I was trying to ditch the money kind of thing. 2255 02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:37.559 Like he was like, get this guy out of here. 2256 02:16:37.600 --> 02:16:41.159 I'm like, did I do something wrong? Like you know, 2257 02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:44.760 like that was my first experience with being hypnotized, and 2258 02:16:44.799 --> 02:16:46.040 I guess I fucked up. 2259 02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:46.479 I don't know. 2260 02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:48.799 He was like, yo, yeah, you gotta. 2261 02:16:49.440 --> 02:16:52.520 It is a lot easier for people that that don't 2262 02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:55.319 have any issue with meditating, and a lot of people 2263 02:16:55.319 --> 02:16:57.200 they have a they have a real hard time of 2264 02:16:57.200 --> 02:16:59.879 getting out of their own damn way and uh kind 2265 02:16:59.879 --> 02:17:03.280 of associating themselves with their thoughts and you can get 2266 02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:05.600 beyond that. You know, you don't have to be your thoughts, 2267 02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:07.920 you can just observe it. And I was just thinking, 2268 02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:10.840 you know, at a certain point, you know, I almost 2269 02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:11.639 look at it like this. 2270 02:17:11.760 --> 02:17:16.239 Now, it's like you're either the observer or the observed. 2271 02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:19.639 And I think that if you're trying to get to 2272 02:17:19.719 --> 02:17:23.239 that inner intellect or that inner higher power or whatever, 2273 02:17:24.040 --> 02:17:26.879 and that you do get to within a meditation, if 2274 02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:28.360 you get you know, pretty. 2275 02:17:28.040 --> 02:17:31.360 Deep, you can be the observer. You know. 2276 02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:35.600 Otherwise you're just being observed and observed. You know, you 2277 02:17:35.680 --> 02:17:37.799 might say, well, I'm being observed by God or I'm 2278 02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:44.120 being observed by my ancient relatives or whatever, right, or aliens. 2279 02:17:43.639 --> 02:17:46.120 If you're talking to our boy Rupert. 2280 02:17:46.319 --> 02:17:49.360 But it's like, I think that what's really going on 2281 02:17:49.600 --> 02:17:52.520 is that that there's both of those things are going 2282 02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:55.879 on at the same time, and you can tap into 2283 02:17:55.920 --> 02:17:56.600 either one of them. 2284 02:17:57.799 --> 02:18:02.200 You know. It's good dude, Oh, he's definitely round. 2285 02:18:02.920 --> 02:18:06.280 Also I'm the guy. Hey, yeah, Like I was talking 2286 02:18:06.319 --> 02:18:09.559 to Ah like this is not recorded, right, I was 2287 02:18:09.600 --> 02:18:13.840 talking to psychic sh like off air, like and how 2288 02:18:13.879 --> 02:18:15.719 she was like hitting on shape with my family and 2289 02:18:15.760 --> 02:18:17.959 stuff like I'm I'm DC Pilgrim, bro. 2290 02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:18.680 That's me. 2291 02:18:18.959 --> 02:18:27.040 Yeah, okay, awesome, No, it's really cool, Like it's crazy 2292 02:18:27.120 --> 02:18:31.239 and I love that stuff. But like how I found 2293 02:18:31.280 --> 02:18:34.559 you guys was not through wanting or like any kind 2294 02:18:34.559 --> 02:18:38.440 of like ghostly encounter stuff like that. It was strictly 2295 02:18:38.479 --> 02:18:43.760 through like weird lights in the sky and electro nick 2296 02:18:43.879 --> 02:18:47.559 and literally it like brought me to you guys and stuff. 2297 02:18:47.600 --> 02:18:50.760 So it's it's really cool, Like I really appreciate all 2298 02:18:50.760 --> 02:18:54.159 that stuff too, and like that was that hit on 2299 02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:59.520 some like real ship. And it sucks because I don't 2300 02:18:59.639 --> 02:19:02.280 want to talk to her about it because like I 2301 02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:04.200 moved away from all that, right. 2302 02:19:04.159 --> 02:19:04.399 So. 2303 02:19:06.360 --> 02:19:10.360 Yeah, okay, I don't actually live in Newfoundland anymore. 2304 02:19:10.399 --> 02:19:14.920 And yeah, oh that's right. Yeah yeah I live in Ontario. No, 2305 02:19:15.959 --> 02:19:16.680 not my choice. 2306 02:19:17.639 --> 02:19:19.959 You know what you can do with DC with that 2307 02:19:20.399 --> 02:19:25.319 is in my opinion because it's not recorded, and it's 2308 02:19:25.360 --> 02:19:28.920 great and it's very champion that you actually like shared 2309 02:19:28.920 --> 02:19:29.520 that with us. 2310 02:19:29.639 --> 02:19:30.639 You know, you didn't have. 2311 02:19:32.200 --> 02:19:36.520 I know, but I think you're actually a cool dude, 2312 02:19:36.760 --> 02:19:42.799 and you know why you found these guys and us, 2313 02:19:43.120 --> 02:19:46.040 It was serendipitous. It was not just because you had 2314 02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:48.040 to pay somebody for it. It was because it was 2315 02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:48.680 meant to happen. 2316 02:19:49.440 --> 02:19:53.600 No, dude, have you ever seen that movie called Serendipity? 2317 02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:55.360 I have not that. 2318 02:19:55.479 --> 02:20:02.120 Yes, that is an awesome movie. Yeah, it's just like 2319 02:20:02.440 --> 02:20:05.520 everything happens for a reason. And dude, if you like 2320 02:20:05.559 --> 02:20:10.000 that kind of shit. And it's an older movie. It's 2321 02:20:10.040 --> 02:20:11.920 an old I think it came out like early two thousands, 2322 02:20:12.000 --> 02:20:13.319 late nineties or something like that. 2323 02:20:13.479 --> 02:20:14.840 It was like early two thousand. 2324 02:20:14.959 --> 02:20:18.479 Buddy, I'm coming through on an old PC, like an 2325 02:20:18.520 --> 02:20:22.479 old gaming computer, so I keep cutting out like. 2326 02:20:22.760 --> 02:20:23.360 The whole time. 2327 02:20:23.399 --> 02:20:24.719 I was like trying to be a part of this. 2328 02:20:24.799 --> 02:20:29.760 I'm like flexing the whole time. 2329 02:20:30.079 --> 02:20:32.959 Just ripped, dude. 2330 02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:33.959 This is my whole workout. 2331 02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:37.920 Is listening to you guys and be like, yeah, just 2332 02:20:37.959 --> 02:20:41.120 Bruce Banner over there, dude, feels good. 2333 02:20:41.559 --> 02:20:43.680 All right, Well, I think we'll wrap it up right there, 2334 02:20:43.959 --> 02:20:46.600 and uh, thank you guys so much for joining us 2335 02:20:46.600 --> 02:20:49.280 here tonight. It was a great time and very interesting. 2336 02:20:49.719 --> 02:20:50.639 Guest. For sure. 2337 02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:54.840 It's always fun getting the different perspectives like that, because 2338 02:20:54.840 --> 02:20:57.719 I think that, honestly, dude, I think that everybody kind 2339 02:20:57.719 --> 02:20:59.600 of lives in their own world. And I don't even 2340 02:20:59.639 --> 02:21:02.479 mean that like in a discrediting type of way. I 2341 02:21:02.559 --> 02:21:05.959 just think that we're all just having our own like 2342 02:21:06.319 --> 02:21:10.799 trippy experience, and you know, all the world's eventually come together, 2343 02:21:10.959 --> 02:21:14.520 and it's just fun hearing, you know, from other sides 2344 02:21:14.600 --> 02:21:14.840 like that. 2345 02:21:14.920 --> 02:21:19.440 It's fun, Yeah, dude. So yeah, we'll bust up out 2346 02:21:19.440 --> 02:21:21.479 of here and we will see you guys on the 2347 02:21:21.479 --> 02:21:24.239 flip side, I guess.