Speaker 1: You've created everything. What's put a powerful being? You are.
Speaker 2: You did these things, but now you're in a human body.
Speaker 3: You forget the power you have.
Speaker 4: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 4: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 4: something the whole universe is doing, in the same way
Speaker 4: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 3: You're doing doing whatation.
Speaker 2: Welcome to metamistics.
Speaker 3: My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean.
Speaker 2: And today is wonder wisday baby? It is that time.
Speaker 2: Welcome all the one in on this conversation. This is
Speaker 2: going to be a really really fun conversation, I think.
Speaker 2: But we have a guest, and it's somebody that I've
Speaker 2: been following a lot on on social media and everything
Speaker 2: and just cannot wait to hear your perspective on all
Speaker 2: of this stuff. Welcome to the show, Rupert.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: Man, So now you I followed you on social media.
Speaker 2: You have a your handle is orb Trek.
Speaker 1: I believe orb Trek on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And I can't get I could just
Speaker 2: watch that stuff all day, mainly because we've all had
Speaker 2: experiences with the orbs, you know, personally introduced by none
Speaker 2: other than electro Nick at first, and uh, that's just Nick.
Speaker 2: We call him electro Nick because it's awesome and and
Speaker 2: and then we each had our own individual experiences as
Speaker 2: well as far as seeing the orbs out there. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't We definitely weren't going to the extent that
Speaker 2: you were. But if you could, could you kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, tell us about what you're doing and how
Speaker 2: are you getting these orbs and essentially come out of
Speaker 2: the ether.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I spend a good portion of my life
Speaker 1: traveling around the US and sometimes other countries, trying to
Speaker 1: promote the idea of universal peace, universal love, universal well being,
Speaker 1: and to me, universal means all species, all conscious life
Speaker 1: forms throughout the universe. And a big part of what
Speaker 1: I do when I travel is I host contact events
Speaker 1: so people can come and gather, and I will guide
Speaker 1: people through meditations. We will astrally project out and we
Speaker 1: will attempt to communicate with any beings who are out there. Now.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for quite a long time, and
Speaker 1: I've become quite successful, and I now have various beings
Speaker 1: who come around with me who associate with me and
Speaker 1: that probably helps in what I do. But while I
Speaker 1: was touring around, I heard that Bradshaw Runch in Sodona
Speaker 1: was a central hot spot for paranormal alien activity, and
Speaker 1: even though I was sort of in between two events,
Speaker 1: I had to go as I was passing through the
Speaker 1: area to Sodona to Bradshaw Runch, and so I turned
Speaker 1: up there. It was about I think twelve thirty one
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning something like that. With my night
Speaker 1: vision camera and as I'm scanning around, I've only been
Speaker 1: there for about thirty seconds. I'm scanning around and as
Speaker 1: I turn around to face the entrance to the ranch,
Speaker 1: right there in front of me, hovering in front of me,
Speaker 1: there is this blue orb and I was videoing it
Speaker 1: very clearly. Now. At first I'm thinking, okay, is that
Speaker 1: a lens flare? Is that a piece of fluff or
Speaker 1: something floating around? And so I wasn't quite sure. But
Speaker 1: then I started to talk to it and I said hello,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I had said hello, it responded
Speaker 1: and came down to me. And then I had about
Speaker 1: a minute of conversation with this orb and it seemed
Speaker 1: to be sort of moving towards me, moving away from me,
Speaker 1: almost like in a yes no way to my questions.
Speaker 1: And then when I finally said, okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: come a little closer to you, it flew right past
Speaker 1: my head.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, all right, so there's definitely some sort of
Speaker 3: intelligence going on there.
Speaker 1: Then it's it seems to me, you know, I'm actually
Speaker 1: my backgrounds as a space scientist, and so I can
Speaker 1: analyze things in a relatively scientific way, and it you know,
Speaker 1: there there were moths, They were insects that I captured
Speaker 1: on the video camera, some near, some far, but they
Speaker 1: were all perfectly or not perfectly, but almost in focus.
Speaker 1: But this orb maintained a diffuse volume of something, whether
Speaker 1: it's gaseous or plasmic, throughout the whole thing, whether it
Speaker 1: was near or far to me, And so I have
Speaker 1: to deduce that this was some kind of a unknown
Speaker 1: to me, conscious entity, conscious life on.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: That is awesome.
Speaker 3: How far away would you say that this orb was?
Speaker 1: Initially it was probably about ten feet away when I
Speaker 1: first started videoing it, and then it came right past
Speaker 1: my head, only maybe a foot away from me.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is close. Do you feel like
Speaker 2: there was any kind of maybe energy field that it
Speaker 2: was putting off. Did it affect you physically at all
Speaker 2: getting close to it?
Speaker 1: Well, when beings come close to me, I typically will
Speaker 1: have physiological symptoms like changes in air pressure. I will
Speaker 1: feel like the air pressure suddenly changes, or high pitched
Speaker 1: tones ringing in my ears. Sometimes my muscles start twitching
Speaker 1: in odd places, like my eyebrow will start twitching. Things
Speaker 1: like that. And when I was I had to walk
Speaker 1: to Bradshaw Ranch because the road in is a dirt track,
Speaker 1: really really hard to get to, even with a four
Speaker 1: wheel drive, and so my vehicle couldn't handle it. I
Speaker 1: was walking in. I got to about maybe a third
Speaker 1: of a mile away, and I started to feel the
Speaker 1: presence of something, some consciousness, some paranormal entity or extra
Speaker 1: dimensional entity. And when I was when I arrived, I
Speaker 1: was feeling that too. So I was definitely feeling like
Speaker 1: I was in the presence of something unusual. I definitely
Speaker 1: felt like they knew I was there. But when I
Speaker 1: was directly interacting with it, I can't say that I Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling something around me right now, I can't say
Speaker 1: that in the moment I felt the presence of the orb.
Speaker 1: I was just feeling a general presence of something there.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is intense, so awesome too. So just
Speaker 2: out of curiosity, do you label you know what kind
Speaker 2: of beings these could be? You know, some people call
Speaker 2: on the Pleadians, on the tall Whites, on the andromedins,
Speaker 2: in all the different flavors. What are your thoughts or
Speaker 2: is it all of them?
Speaker 1: It's a good number of them. I know the tall Whites,
Speaker 1: I know some by name. I've been invited out there
Speaker 1: into the desert north west of Las Vegas to camp
Speaker 1: with them. I've done that. I videoed craft the Pleadeans.
Speaker 1: They do show their support to what I'm doing. Usually
Speaker 1: I have like shards of light show up a male
Speaker 1: and a female Pleadean. But I've never really had conversations
Speaker 1: with them in the same way that I do with
Speaker 1: other beings. Ebans, I know some ebons, mantis, beings, reptilians even,
Speaker 1: and the ones that are pay pay particular attention to me.
Speaker 1: I call tall silvers. Tall silvers are often seen behind me,
Speaker 1: usually three really tall looking silver gray beings. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I have a lot of different entities that
Speaker 1: I interact.
Speaker 2: With that is awesome. How are you able to distinguish
Speaker 2: between them? I mean, are you seeing I mean is
Speaker 2: it some kind of like a teleopathic telepathic kind of communication.
Speaker 2: Are you able to see their physical form? Are they
Speaker 2: can you hear them?
Speaker 3: Like? How?
Speaker 5: How does that transfer happen?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a good question because you know, it's easy
Speaker 1: to imagine stuff and sometimes you just can't tell if
Speaker 1: somebody who is who claims to be in contact with beings,
Speaker 1: if they really are, or if it's imagination. And I
Speaker 1: go back to me being a scientist, I need proof
Speaker 1: of things before I will accept them as a being true.
Speaker 1: So what I found is that if I experience something
Speaker 1: just by myself, I've learnt to trust my own feelings
Speaker 1: to maybe about eighty percent. But I can't get proof
Speaker 1: of anything unless it's a shared experience with others. So
Speaker 1: I will host meetings two or three times a week,
Speaker 1: just like you're doing, like zoom meetings with maybe fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty people, in which I will guide people through
Speaker 1: astral projections and remote communication with different beings, and then
Speaker 1: afterwards we will talk about what did we all perceive,
Speaker 1: And very often there are several people in the Zoom
Speaker 1: meeting who experience or witness the same thing, Like we
Speaker 1: just saw an extraterrestrial entity that was like vortex shape,
Speaker 1: semi transparent with baby vortex is around it. And when
Speaker 1: I asked, what is your name, it said tuk tuk.
Speaker 1: When you have five or six people all having all
Speaker 1: of those shared experiences, you know you've got logical proof
Speaker 1: that you're having a real shared experience. So I'm very
Speaker 1: cautious about what I claim to know, but I do
Speaker 1: know a lot.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that people can have shared experiences like that,
Speaker 2: and that's something that even the earliest like remote viewers
Speaker 2: would say that, you know, there's a wild story. And
Speaker 2: I can never remember their names, but the earliest remote
Speaker 2: viewers in the CIA program, they were it was just
Speaker 2: two of them. They went into two separate rooms. They
Speaker 2: were trying to see if their visions essentially would be
Speaker 2: able to be like a shared experience. And they didn't hear,
Speaker 2: you know, one another at all. They were they were
Speaker 2: able to say, yeah, like we saw the same thing.
Speaker 2: We talked together on this remote planet. They described the
Speaker 2: same exact type of being, the same language that was
Speaker 2: coming off, and it's like it's it goes beyond the
Speaker 2: mind and beyond the realm of understanding how this can
Speaker 2: be possible. But I think in this day and age,
Speaker 2: it's it probably used to be considered crazy, right, Like
Speaker 2: for the majority of people, it probably seem like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're communicating with aliens in your mind, all right. You
Speaker 2: used to be you had to go into a padded
Speaker 2: room for that kind of conversation. But nowadays, people I
Speaker 2: feel like, are a lot more open to these kind
Speaker 2: of experiences, and especially with just your everyday people are
Speaker 2: that are able to go outside and have some kind
Speaker 2: of contact with the orbs. And it's it's hard to
Speaker 2: just explain away because you know, whenever you look up
Speaker 2: in the sky, that's not an airplane, that's not a satellite,
Speaker 2: that's not SpaceX, you know what I mean, Like, it's
Speaker 2: not anything that would be human made, because it's just
Speaker 2: acting very strange. And I had a wild experience, like
Speaker 2: a few months ago, we went camping, Me and the
Speaker 2: kids all went camping, and I wasn't seeing anything, but
Speaker 2: I was like, I just asked a question. Were I
Speaker 2: was sitting out by the fire and I just asked
Speaker 2: a question. I was like, man, it would be really
Speaker 2: cool if the kids would if the kids could experience this,
Speaker 2: you know, could you just show me that that would
Speaker 2: be really awesome. And when you know what, we saw
Speaker 2: twenty one orbs in the span of like an hour.
Speaker 2: It was it was like crazy traffic going on up there.
Speaker 2: How was like, how is this happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really strange. And the kids where
Speaker 2: they loved it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I was like, they were saying, oh, is that aliens?
Speaker 2: And I was like, it ain't humans. So I don't
Speaker 2: call that whatever you want. But how did you first
Speaker 2: get involved in on this? By the way, Like you
Speaker 2: said that you're a space scientist, what got you into
Speaker 2: this in the first place? Did you have a personal
Speaker 2: experience that that really teeded it off.
Speaker 1: I think all of this started really out of me
Speaker 1: being very empathic. I realized as a child that I
Speaker 1: cared to a very high level about other people, other animals.
Speaker 1: If I would see a fly hurt, it would make
Speaker 1: me cry. And so I set out trying to solve
Speaker 1: all of the world's problems when I was just a
Speaker 1: little kid, and I realized, well, how can you solve
Speaker 1: the world's problems if you don't understand the problems? So
Speaker 1: the first step is understanding reality. And in order to
Speaker 1: understand reality, not only was I going out researching ghosts
Speaker 1: and the Lockless Monster and spirits and orbs and healing,
Speaker 1: but I went into science because with science you can
Speaker 1: actually prove and verify things in ways that sometimes you
Speaker 1: can't with the paranormal. That's how I got into all
Speaker 1: of this. So I've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 1: And what I personally have found is that the more
Speaker 1: you apply logical scientific methodologies to the paranormal, to anything spiritual,
Speaker 1: to anything alien, the more you start to see the
Speaker 1: patterns of reality. And those patterns of reality do like
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzles, fit together to form a coherent picture. And
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like. You know, I don't know everything,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I've now got a fairly coherent
Speaker 1: picture about reality.
Speaker 2: Well, reality is stranger than fiction, you know, and that's
Speaker 2: where we're discovering.
Speaker 3: Going to find out. Man. You know, when I was
Speaker 3: when I was younger, you know, I would say, even
Speaker 3: maybe within the last five years, you know, before we
Speaker 3: even started looking really researching all of this stuff, I
Speaker 3: would go outside, and you know, back when I used
Speaker 3: to smoke cigarette still, and I would look up in
Speaker 3: the sky, and I would never see any orb or
Speaker 3: anything that that I couldn't explain. It was always an airplane.
Speaker 3: It was always something that was not alien. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, we're doing this show
Speaker 3: and then Electro Nick, you know, he comes out and
Speaker 3: he shows me one and I'm like, oh, wow, like
Speaker 3: I've never seen this before in my life, and ever
Speaker 3: since now it's just a thing that I that I'm
Speaker 3: able to observe an experience. Is that something that is
Speaker 3: pretty common with what you're you've been doing as far
Speaker 3: as once someone sees something, now that it's more more frequent, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think you can you kind of build up
Speaker 1: a personal relationship with non human entities. They realize, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is interested. Sometimes they realize, oh, not only
Speaker 1: is this person interested, but they're they're spreading the word
Speaker 1: about their experiences. And the fact that you're here now
Speaker 1: telling the public about your experiences that might have interested
Speaker 1: them and assisted in that community in that communication.
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: If we don't live in some kind of magical realm
Speaker 2: or matrix, Like, who would have ever thought that one
Speaker 2: day you'd be able to look up in the sky
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, there's extraterrestrials from other planets and all
Speaker 2: you have to do is just like spiritually connect to
Speaker 2: them and then all of a sudden, like they're homeboys.
Speaker 2: Like that sounds crazy out loud, right, but like the
Speaker 2: world we live in, but that's what's going on. And
Speaker 2: and the people out there that will say, oh, that's
Speaker 2: just government tech that they don't want us knowing about,
Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I mean, I'm sure that government
Speaker 2: has their own reverse engineered stuff with Boeing and all
Speaker 2: that other stuff, right, but these things seem to be
Speaker 2: able to communicate with your thoughts. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if the government has that kind of tech.
Speaker 3: Yet, you know, I hope not.
Speaker 2: I mean from from such a far away distance. So
Speaker 2: I mean you were talking about you can essentially, like
Speaker 2: you know, maybe convince them to move a little bit closer,
Speaker 2: a little bit farther away. Yeah, that is that is impressive.
Speaker 3: So, just out of.
Speaker 2: Curiosity, what were I mean, what are like some of
Speaker 2: the messages that you've received from I mean, are the
Speaker 2: messages different from from each species?
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: They're actually fairly consistent the messages. They're fairly supportive the
Speaker 1: ones that I connect with of of positive human development.
Speaker 1: And there are three main messages that they tend to give,
Speaker 1: not just to me, but they've been given they've been
Speaker 1: giving to humanity for many decades. There's one of the
Speaker 1: first messages, nuclear weapons not so great.
Speaker 3: Agreed.
Speaker 1: The second message is environmental. All around the planet, people
Speaker 1: has shown images of a future in which there is
Speaker 1: environmental devastation. It's very, very common. I've had maybe ten
Speaker 1: different beings give me basically the same message, showing us
Speaker 1: visions and it's been going on from school children to
Speaker 1: grown you know, adults for seventy years at least. That's
Speaker 1: the second message. The third message is just be nice
Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah, Unfortunately, humanity doesn't listen to any
Speaker 1: of the messages.
Speaker 2: And I think the being nice to each other is
Speaker 2: probably the hardest one for humanity to swallow.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the hardest one for humanity to swallow when
Speaker 3: they lack empathy or they lack the motivation to try
Speaker 3: to at least understand and other people. I think that's
Speaker 3: a hard thing for people to try to do. You know,
Speaker 3: if somebody believes really hardcore and something that you totally
Speaker 3: don't believe in, then you can see why. I guess
Speaker 3: that would be a hard thing. But you know, you
Speaker 3: don't have to believe in what other people believe in.
Speaker 3: I think you just need to just have some type
Speaker 3: of understanding and empathy for that, you know, and move on.
Speaker 5: Just stay open minded at least.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So just I have a crazy question. Have
Speaker 2: you ever asked if maybe that's what you were before
Speaker 2: you incarnated it as a human?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I've explored all possibilities and what I've
Speaker 1: pieced together for myself personally, is I was born human.
Speaker 1: I'm fairly convinced of that. I've done the ancestry, I've
Speaker 1: done the DNA testing. Was I started off human. But
Speaker 1: the the more I interacted with these beings and they
Speaker 1: liked what I was doing, the more interested they became
Speaker 1: in me, and they started to I call it enhance me.
Speaker 1: And people would see psychic people would see around me,
Speaker 1: beings and they'd start putting their hands on my forehead.
Speaker 1: And this is many different psychic people who don't know
Speaker 1: each other, in different times, in different locations, saying, Rupert,
Speaker 1: there's a being that's doing this to your forehead. What's
Speaker 1: going on and when we asked what is happening to
Speaker 1: different beings? We asked the different beings what is happening?
Speaker 1: They said, We're strengthening you, We're supporting you, we're enhancing you.
Speaker 1: And often in my meetings they will ask us, is
Speaker 1: that okay if we do some more enhancement. So what
Speaker 1: is happening to me is my spirit is being altered.
Speaker 1: I am no longer spiritually completely human. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: a hybrid spirit now. And it's gonna sound crazy, but
Speaker 1: after after this biological body dies, I'm going to come
Speaker 1: back into another body, and either either the next time
Speaker 1: or the time after that, the body that I go
Speaker 1: into is going to be my my hybrid child, ah
Speaker 1: that I have with a tall silver female whom I've
Speaker 1: already met, because she's traveled back from the future to
Speaker 1: meet me and she's keeping she's supporting me and protecting
Speaker 1: me to enable this to happen in the future.
Speaker 2: My god, that's that's only something we can all hope.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: There's there's like some crazy extraterrestrial like space wife that
Speaker 2: we have out there that is just like waiting in
Speaker 2: the wings for for us to I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: she's just guiding us or something like that.
Speaker 5: Did you happen to catch her name?
Speaker 1: No, we haven't got the name. She sometimes comes in
Speaker 1: and she's really really tall, like nine or ten feet tall,
Speaker 1: and she often hovers at an angle above me like this,
Speaker 1: and she will put a protective field around me, some
Speaker 1: kind of force field. And people whom I've known for many,
Speaker 1: many years who are psychic sometimes I've got a good
Speaker 1: friend in close to Kansas City who when I do
Speaker 1: contact events with her in the group, she will feel
Speaker 1: the energy of the group and she'll come and position
Speaker 1: herself in a sort of a fung shway type of
Speaker 1: energy balancing way to maximize the effectiveness of our contact.
Speaker 1: And when this you know, wife from the future shows
Speaker 1: up and puts her protective feels around me, she loses
Speaker 1: that connection. She can't sense me at all. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not a negative thing, it's a protective thing. But
Speaker 1: but people feel it and people see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is oh man, my boy wizard said, does
Speaker 3: she have a sister?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she doesn't look human, so I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't say that I'm ready to propose yet, shall
Speaker 1: we say?
Speaker 3: Hey, I give your time in Russian in these things
Speaker 3: you would you be able to.
Speaker 2: Before I ask this question, is this is this comparable
Speaker 2: to or is it a CE five kind of event
Speaker 2: that's going on that you're doing out there whenever you
Speaker 2: gather in groups.
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, CE five has become quite controversial. Jacques Valet
Speaker 1: was the first person to introduce a close encounter of
Speaker 1: the fifth kind and his version of what CE five
Speaker 1: is completely different to other people's. And so Moufon likes
Speaker 1: his close Encounters of the fifth kind definition, and they
Speaker 1: go with his definition. And I find that if people
Speaker 1: ever say, oh, you're doing C five and I say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not following the same protocols that you're following, they say, oh,
Speaker 1: well you're not doing CT five. So I no longer
Speaker 1: use that terminology. But essentially it is comparable because it
Speaker 1: is using our conscious minds to reach out to connect
Speaker 1: psychically or consciously with other other different beings that are
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and just out of curiosity for anybody
Speaker 2: that is unaware of what CE five is, like, what
Speaker 2: is your process? So you get a group together, you
Speaker 2: all meet a specific spot. What's the first thing you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, it can be in person or in a
Speaker 1: zoom meeting like this. The first stage is to relax,
Speaker 1: So in meditation we relax. There's nothing magical about that.
Speaker 1: It's just letting go of tensions. But then it goes deeper,
Speaker 1: it goes into the mind. It is relaxing our mind.
Speaker 1: I personally like to then try and expel dark feelings,
Speaker 1: dark thoughts. So if you've got any hatred towards anybody,
Speaker 1: we ascend above that. We push out the darknesses. I
Speaker 1: also like to connect. We then tune into our spiritual bodies,
Speaker 1: our spiritual beings or our ultra dimensional bodies. And then
Speaker 1: everything I do is sort of peace and love based.
Speaker 1: So we feel the love within us, we extend it
Speaker 1: to the other people in the group, and to the
Speaker 1: extent that is possible for human beings. We become a collective.
Speaker 1: We connect in a non discriminatory way, and we fall
Speaker 1: a friendly, connected environment that is welcoming to whoever we're
Speaker 1: going to invite in. And then you know, at that stage,
Speaker 1: often they're already with me because they know me. But
Speaker 1: that's but then I guide people to take pull their
Speaker 1: consciousnesses to whichever beings we want to connect with. We
Speaker 1: sort of pull ourselves in astral projection type way to them,
Speaker 1: and we walk up to them respectfully, and then we
Speaker 1: initiate a conversation with them. And sometimes we just have
Speaker 1: a conversation remotely, like when I go to their galactic council,
Speaker 1: we go into their space craft, we have a seat
Speaker 1: on at their table. That's all remote. It happens in
Speaker 1: their craft. But sometimes we then invite them to come
Speaker 1: back physically and then we might start seeing things in
Speaker 1: the sky or feeling beings around us.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I want to do something like this so bad. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it would just be the funnest thing, the
Speaker 3: most awesome thing to do for the bunch of us.
Speaker 2: Dude to see that the galactic table. I mean, what
Speaker 2: goes on at that table? Is it like, like, what
Speaker 2: kind of conversations are being had? I mean, is it
Speaker 2: sticking with the main three things that are always talked
Speaker 2: about or is it more.
Speaker 5: Of like a in depth kind of plan.
Speaker 3: Is there no communication?
Speaker 5: What is that like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's an interesting backstory. Two or three years ago,
Speaker 1: I had several people in my groups contact me independently
Speaker 1: and say, Hey, Rupert, I don't know who that What's
Speaker 1: quite what's going on. Some aliens calling themselves the Galactic
Speaker 1: Council said that I have a seat at the Galactic
Speaker 1: Council table and that I should get in touch with them.
Speaker 1: So we all remote, we all astley projected there together
Speaker 1: and we got in touch with them, and they said, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is true, this is real. We like
Speaker 1: what you're doing, we support what you're doing. You can
Speaker 1: come here whenever you like. So we go there about
Speaker 1: once a week in a group, and it can be
Speaker 1: anything anything. It can be getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: We look around, we learn about the different species. I'm
Speaker 1: going to them tomorrow evening, and what we're going to
Speaker 1: be doing tomorrow evening is we're trying to set up
Speaker 1: in person meetings in coffee shops with hybrids and human
Speaker 1: human looking non non humans tomorrow evening. So we're asking
Speaker 1: for the Galactic Council's assistance with that. But it really
Speaker 1: can be anything. We go there, we meditate with them,
Speaker 1: we ask for personal messages, we ask for guidance on
Speaker 1: certain issues like nuclear weapons, for example, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: could be anything, anything that I feel like doing on
Speaker 1: that particular day. They're very accommodating.
Speaker 2: Oh that is so awesome, and it makes you wonder,
Speaker 2: just like, you know, do you believe that is it
Speaker 2: governments or having seats at these tables? I mean, are
Speaker 2: there any politicians or anything like that involved, or is
Speaker 2: it more of like a person a person's spirit to
Speaker 2: spirit kind of thing. It doesn't necessarily matter what your
Speaker 2: title or your level of importance on a world realm is.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. A lot of the success that
Speaker 1: I have, the connections that I've been able to make,
Speaker 1: I put down to my motivations for doing what I
Speaker 1: do and what I want. What I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: is to make friends with them, to bridge a peaceful
Speaker 1: gap between us so that we can move forwards in
Speaker 1: a peaceful, constructive, positive way. But when you listen to
Speaker 1: people in the government who claim to have connections with
Speaker 1: these beings, and I'm sure that a lot of them do,
Speaker 1: that's not there. Gender, that's not that's not on the
Speaker 1: list of why people are openly saying we want disclosure.
Speaker 1: A lot of people want their technology. That's not a
Speaker 1: good way to enter into a friendship with somebody. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'd like to be friends with you because you've got
Speaker 1: something I want.
Speaker 6: M M.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some people go to them and say we we need
Speaker 1: we need them to solve our energy crisis and problems. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm a scientist, and I know that we've had all
Speaker 1: of the energy generating technology, very simple energy technology, generating
Speaker 1: technology that we need in order to solve our energy problem.
Speaker 1: That's not why we've got an energy problem. So you
Speaker 1: know when we go and ask them, hey, can you
Speaker 1: save us from ourselves? It's like they're like, how can
Speaker 1: we do that? If we were to try and save
Speaker 1: you from yourselves, we'd have to change you. And you're
Speaker 1: not going to let that happen, aren't you?
Speaker 3: You have so right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's you know.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is a few weeks ago, I have another
Speaker 2: podcast called The Cult of Conspiracy, and we did an
Speaker 2: episode on this thing called the Griata Treaty that was
Speaker 2: back in I think nineteen fifty seven if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: or forties or fifties. I'm terrible, terrible with years. But
Speaker 2: either way, there was a Griada Treaty supposedly back whenever
Speaker 2: Dwight Eisenhower was president, and there was I guess a
Speaker 2: group of aliens. I believe he was calling them the
Speaker 2: Nordics or the Tall Whites, something along those lines, and
Speaker 2: which it was the Nordics, I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the Nordics proposed a plan to go into some
Speaker 2: kind of agreement with our government, and I guess Eisenhower
Speaker 2: turned it down. But the one that he did accept
Speaker 2: was the agreement with the Little Grays.
Speaker 5: And that was mainly.
Speaker 2: The agreement as far as like technology goes, that if
Speaker 2: if the Grays were able to abduct a couple of
Speaker 2: humans every so often, take some cows every so often,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna hurt the humans, even though that can
Speaker 2: be debated. A lot of abductions aren't always great, right,
Speaker 2: and uh and and and so they said that, you know,
Speaker 2: as long as they could take some humans and some
Speaker 2: cows and livestock and stuff like that, then we'll give
Speaker 2: you over some technology. Well, from what I understand is
Speaker 2: is that the Little Grays went kind of above their means.
Speaker 2: Because these are just humans. What are we going to
Speaker 2: make a fair deal with them or something. I don't
Speaker 2: know what your opinion is on the Little Grays. I've
Speaker 2: heard very differing ideas about what they are, what they
Speaker 2: could be. Maybe they're kind of like they're biological entities,
Speaker 2: but almost robot like. Maybe they're kind of like drone
Speaker 2: entities for another species. Maybe they're you know what some
Speaker 2: people might refer to as demons. Uh, what are your
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on grays and have you had
Speaker 2: any you know, run ins with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, another good question. You know. Out of the main
Speaker 1: I would say probably the five main species that have
Speaker 1: a physical biological presence that are commonly seen around our planet,
Speaker 1: Grays are the only ones that don't actively welcome contact
Speaker 1: with me. So when I when I move myself to
Speaker 1: them and say, hey, listen, I'm I'm here on behalf
Speaker 1: of a friend of mine, who's who's whom you're taking
Speaker 1: onto your craft doing abductions, they will sort of turn
Speaker 1: around and look at me and it's like, we don't
Speaker 1: want to talk to you, and they you know that
Speaker 1: they're not violent or anything, but they back away or
Speaker 1: they push us away, so you know they're there are
Speaker 1: the short grays, but then they are the taller masters,
Speaker 1: and there's a variety of different taller master's, taller Grays,
Speaker 1: tall pinks, and we do occasionally go and connect with
Speaker 1: them and talk to the taller ones. They're the ones
Speaker 1: that are in charge and When we do that, they
Speaker 1: do listen to us, and we say, hey, listen, can
Speaker 1: we have a peaceful conversation with you? And we tell them, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we've got like twenty people in our group who would
Speaker 1: love to be abducted, who would love to help you out,
Speaker 1: but voluntarily and retaining our memories, that to us is
Speaker 1: a more moral way, a more acceptable way of contributing
Speaker 1: to to your reproductive programs. And we try and explain
Speaker 1: to them that being taken against our will without our
Speaker 1: consent is not okay to us. And they listen. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're making much progress with them,
Speaker 1: but that's one of the things we try to do.
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, you know, all you can do is really
Speaker 2: just make an effort, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is all just so wild.
Speaker 2: I mean, is there do you have a favorite that
Speaker 2: you come in contact with?
Speaker 3: Is it ever? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, is there somebody that you're like, you know, the
Speaker 2: mantis being right, you know, but you know, the the
Speaker 2: any other kind that you would prefer or are they
Speaker 2: all just pretty cool?
Speaker 1: I think I might get in trouble if I if
Speaker 1: I openly talk about having a favorite. I welcome all
Speaker 1: contact with all of these beings, there is an extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: that we connect with, because you know the ones the
Speaker 1: humanoids are, it's debatable whether you can call them extraterrestrial.
Speaker 1: But there's a true extraterrestrial and I mentioned her before.
Speaker 1: We call her Tuk Tuk, and she lives on a
Speaker 1: far off, distant ocean world and she's just loving, caring
Speaker 1: and pathic and healing. So we go to her quite
Speaker 1: often as a group and also as individuals and connect
Speaker 1: with this being who Who. When we are meditating and
Speaker 1: focusing on our own healings, she will come in and
Speaker 1: put her healing energies on us. Her colleagues are trained
Speaker 1: healers as well, and her children like to join in
Speaker 1: and we get healing from her. She's very loving and
Speaker 1: very warm, and so that's a special relationship.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Tuk Tuk, Yeah, shout out, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is really awesome. I mean, are you are you
Speaker 2: of the belief that these beings are on planets within
Speaker 2: the universe that we live in? Are they from another dimension?
Speaker 2: Is it another dream or something like that? Like where
Speaker 2: do you think they are actually from?
Speaker 1: Yeah? A good question, you know. To answer that question,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to agree on what are we
Speaker 1: meaning by like words like universe. Like if you if
Speaker 1: your definition of universe is one of everything, then everything's
Speaker 1: in the same universe. What I will say is that
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't get dimensions. A dimension is
Speaker 1: a direction, not a place. Forwards and backwards, that's a direction.
Speaker 1: That's a dimension, left and right, that's that's that's a dimension,
Speaker 1: a direction. So your first two dimensions are x and y.
Speaker 1: Your third dimension would be z x y Z. These
Speaker 1: are dimensions, not places. So when we talk about ultra
Speaker 1: dimensional spaces, we're we're not going to a completely separate location.
Speaker 1: We're just going into an extension of our reality that
Speaker 1: has more dimensions, more spatial dimensions.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: And we ourselves are ultradimensional, we have more than three dimensions.
Speaker 1: Our spiritual bodies do extend outwards into ultradimensional spaces. And
Speaker 1: that's how you know, we can connect with the consciousness
Speaker 1: network in the universe, We can connect with each other.
Speaker 1: We can perceive things throughout ultradimensional space and in the universe,
Speaker 1: but also through time. So where do these beings come from?
Speaker 1: You know, all around the universe there are that there
Speaker 1: is the physical dimension and physical beings usually start off
Speaker 1: being rooted in the physical beings do evolve all around
Speaker 1: the universe. When they evolve, when they grow, when they develop,
Speaker 1: they're also growing the spiritual components of them as well.
Speaker 1: There's an interdimensional force between the spiritual and the physical.
Speaker 1: So like if we look at our if we look
Speaker 1: at the spirit of a dog that comes, you know, back,
Speaker 1: a psychic sees they see a dog looking spirit because
Speaker 1: that's that spirit was attached to the physical dog in
Speaker 1: that form. So all around the universe, you've got countless
Speaker 1: trillions of extraterrestrial beings that have physical bodies and spiritual bodies.
Speaker 1: Some of them develop the technology to move physically transdimensionally
Speaker 1: like and some of them gain the natural ability. Bigfoot
Speaker 1: probably is just doing that naturally, for example, into into
Speaker 1: transdimensional Yeah, but the aliens we see in spacecraft or
Speaker 1: some kind of craft that they're doing it technologically a
Speaker 1: lot of the time. The the beings that we see
Speaker 1: around us, the humanoids, their ancestry is complicated because they
Speaker 1: do have terrestrial DNA and we have when we analyze
Speaker 1: the mummified remains of these beings, we can analyze the
Speaker 1: DNA and we can see that. You know, they have
Speaker 1: terrestrial DNA, but it's not it doesn't fit. Their genomes
Speaker 1: don't fit on the natural evolutionary tree of life. They've
Speaker 1: been engineered. I mean, you can't get a reptilian, you
Speaker 1: can't get a like a human with reptile naturally interbreeding.
Speaker 1: That's a genetic engineering things. So amantis beings. So are
Speaker 1: most of these humanoids. And what happened was hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of years ago. You have some consciousnesses that created
Speaker 1: those genetic bodies as in ron suits, out of the
Speaker 1: existing DNA that's already adapted for this planet so that
Speaker 1: they can interact on this planet. The origin of those
Speaker 1: consciousnesses that I don't know exactly, but it's either through time,
Speaker 1: travelers through time, or it's travelers through space extraterrestrials, or
Speaker 1: it's natural evolution. And that could very well be what
Speaker 1: happened before they started genetic engineering. And I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. It's
Speaker 2: almost like one of my favorite quotes, I believe doctor
Speaker 2: Stephen Greer said it, where he said, it's not about
Speaker 2: where they're coming from, it's when they're coming from. And
Speaker 2: that has been always something that is stuck with me,
Speaker 2: because we do have very limited capabilities as far as
Speaker 2: our senses go, right, I mean, of course your sixth sense,
Speaker 2: that's another thing. But as far as the five senses go,
Speaker 2: I mean, we can only see what is it, point
Speaker 2: zero zero three five percent of the light spectrum or
Speaker 2: it's so minute, right, And and obviously our other senses
Speaker 2: are really just designed to be able to kind of
Speaker 2: be able to survive in disreality real right, right, And
Speaker 2: so it would make sense that we would only be
Speaker 2: able to communicate with beings from other time, not other
Speaker 2: times another other wins I guess, or or just here
Speaker 2: or whatever. It would make sense that we would only
Speaker 2: be able to communicate with them through the spirit in
Speaker 2: that sense. And so the idea of going into a
Speaker 2: meditative state or psychedelic state.
Speaker 5: Or even in your sleep or or.
Speaker 2: Hypnotic state whatever, it does seem to check out at
Speaker 2: least from a you know, a five or six senses
Speaker 2: kind of type of deal, you know, absolutely, I think,
Speaker 2: so I do have a question them. So, all throughout
Speaker 2: human history, people have worshiped gods, gods, deities, you know,
Speaker 2: the old ones, the new ones, and everyone in between,
Speaker 2: do you believe, by any chance, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's a right or wrong answer with this, but
Speaker 2: just of your opinion, do you believe that the ancient
Speaker 2: people were possibly looking at these entities, these extraterrestrials as
Speaker 2: almost as gods.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I you know, it's been estimated that humans
Speaker 1: throughout excuse me, throughout history have worshiped over eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: different gods and deities, and I am certain that a
Speaker 1: lot of those gods and deities were aliens or extraterrestrials,
Speaker 1: non human entities that were visiting the planet or even
Speaker 1: living in on the planet, and they saw them. They
Speaker 1: back then didn't have a concept of what the universe was,
Speaker 1: and you know, this was a planet and there were
Speaker 1: other planets out there, and they interpreted these beings through
Speaker 1: their existing ideas and beliefs. And I'm certain that a
Speaker 1: lot of our I mean things like angels and demons,
Speaker 1: that's very probably pleaadians and grays, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I agree, Yeah, yeah, it makes most It makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense if you really think about it,
Speaker 2: because how is it that nobody talked about aliens up
Speaker 2: until like one hundred years ago or one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years ago or whatever it was. Yet almost everybody
Speaker 2: has talked about spirits from the other realm, gods from
Speaker 2: the other realm, angels, demons, gin whatever. Right, everybody has
Speaker 2: some kind of title that they can name and put
Speaker 2: into a box for an entity on the other side
Speaker 2: of which we can't really know the agenda or the communication,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And so it would make
Speaker 2: sense that you would put it into that kind of box,
Speaker 2: especially if it's a spiritual thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I've recently done a deep dive into elves,
Speaker 1: and if you look at old Germanic mythologies and going
Speaker 1: back to Norse mythologies, there were two types of elf.
Speaker 1: One were tall light elves that were basically good, and
Speaker 1: the others were short, dark elves that lived under the
Speaker 1: ground and were basically bad. And they were associated with
Speaker 1: elf disks and elf wheels, which scholars have interpreted as
Speaker 1: being the sun. But when you think about it, you
Speaker 1: know these these elves was the elves were said to
Speaker 1: move through the sky, and these elf wheels and elf
Speaker 1: discs are very likely flying sources. Same with ancient Egypt.
Speaker 1: You've got a discs behind the heads of a lot
Speaker 1: of those alien looking beings, and that's where halos, the
Speaker 1: idea of halos come from. The temples all have a
Speaker 1: winged disc in their entrances, a flying disc. These ancient
Speaker 1: egypt beings, like the Lyron looking beings, these are beings
Speaker 1: that are literally associated with flying sources.
Speaker 2: You know what, It's funny you mentioned that, because it
Speaker 2: used to be that would be all you would see
Speaker 2: in the sky. Whenever people would talk about UFOs, you
Speaker 2: would only hear about the flying discs, right, And now
Speaker 2: you don't really see him so much anymore. Are they
Speaker 2: evolving with the times like us or what is really
Speaker 2: going on with that.
Speaker 1: It's not safe for them in our atmosphere anymore. The government,
Speaker 1: the industrial military complex, they can track whatever comes into
Speaker 1: our space and they shoot it down unless they've made
Speaker 1: a deal with them that they can fly in and out.
Speaker 1: So we don't tend to see those discs as much.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the non disc looking craft, not
Speaker 1: all of them, but a lot of them are reverse
Speaker 1: engineered technology. We probably have as many human made reverse
Speaker 1: engineered a craft in the sky now that we see
Speaker 1: as UFOs as actual alien craft now.
Speaker 2: Right, whether they be Boeing or Lockheed Martin, stuff like
Speaker 2: that military industrial complex type things. Yeah, that is quite
Speaker 2: interesting and so well, it does make sense. You know,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to come in some kind of physical
Speaker 2: craft like that, But do you so, I guess that
Speaker 2: birth's the question.
Speaker 5: Then what exactly is an ORB?
Speaker 2: Is that just a protective kind of shield that they
Speaker 2: have around themselves? I mean, what is composed of an
Speaker 2: ORB that makes them so elusive? You know, because there
Speaker 2: was recently just a video electro Nick pointed out to
Speaker 2: us the other night of I guess there was some
Speaker 2: kind of military airplane that was shooting a missile at
Speaker 2: an ORB and the ORB split the missile in half
Speaker 2: like it was nothing, you know, And I was just
Speaker 2: flabbergasted whenever I saw that, because why are you shooting
Speaker 2: at an ORB?
Speaker 5: First of all?
Speaker 2: And secondly, how does the ORB have the capabilities to say, hey, missile,
Speaker 2: I'm going to cut you in two immediately?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: It was I mean, it was a boss move. But like,
Speaker 2: what do you think is going on with the orbs?
Speaker 2: Is this like an advanced version of their tech or
Speaker 2: spiritual tech whatever you'd call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think there's probably lots of different
Speaker 1: types of ORB. If we were to ask the question,
Speaker 1: what's a box, you know, well, a coffin is a box,
Speaker 1: a truck is a box.
Speaker 2: You know, box of cereal?
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, box of cereal. There you go. And
Speaker 1: I think it's probably the same with an ORB. And
Speaker 1: ORB is just something that appears roughly spherical to us
Speaker 1: in the sky that we don't understand. But I think
Speaker 1: that I think that some of the orbs, like the
Speaker 1: ORB that I encountered, they are entirely spiritual. They don't
Speaker 1: have a physical component, and they may well be so
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. I'm not going to claim
Speaker 1: like I know the answer, but they could well be
Speaker 1: the spirits of humans, animals. The larger orbs I suspect.
Speaker 1: I've actually been told by some of my alien friends
Speaker 1: that some of those larger spiritual looking orbs are them
Speaker 1: their spirits moving around. But also I think some of
Speaker 1: the orbs are technological. They probably have a physicality to them.
Speaker 1: I know that some craft are able to distort space
Speaker 1: time around them, and so when you look at distorted
Speaker 1: space time, you're getting plasmas forming, You're getting refraction effects
Speaker 1: going on that make them look like a glowing, spiritual
Speaker 1: orb but inside there's a technology. So I think I
Speaker 1: think there's a whole range of different things that the
Speaker 1: orbs can be. And that's a fascinating video that you
Speaker 1: talked about, and I don't know what that is, but
Speaker 1: I suspect I suspect it's probably reverse engineered human made
Speaker 1: technology that when when that missile came into that the
Speaker 1: plasma or the the interface between the two different regions
Speaker 1: of space time, it just blew up and then carried
Speaker 1: on traveling with it a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh no, It's like the matter that was in between
Speaker 3: just didn't know what to do, so it just had
Speaker 3: to because yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Just a kind of like existing in the void for
Speaker 2: a moment in time and then creating out of nothing.
Speaker 3: At that point, in that particular point in space time,
Speaker 3: it was like.
Speaker 5: Noah, right, So what are your thoughts on?
Speaker 2: Well, it was earlier this year, towards the end of
Speaker 2: last year up in New Jersey, people called them deorbags
Speaker 2: because ORBS was getting banned on TikTok for some reason,
Speaker 2: and you would see videos of seemingly and not just
Speaker 2: one or two, I mean by the thousands of these
Speaker 2: videos to where you would see an ORB and then
Speaker 2: it would like transform into a drone. It made no
Speaker 2: sense whatsoever, and almost like morphed into that and then
Speaker 2: vice versa. Some of the drones would morph into orbs.
Speaker 2: And do you think that that is government tech? Or
Speaker 2: is that because you saw it? It was almost like
Speaker 2: some of the videos that I was looking at, it
Speaker 2: almost looked like Star Wars was going on because some
Speaker 2: of them were battling against each other and shooting against
Speaker 2: each other. There was a video of a helicopter that
Speaker 2: was chasing an ORB and like it's like the ORB
Speaker 2: is just playing with it, you know, just toying with it.
Speaker 2: And what do you think of what was going on
Speaker 2: up in New Jersey with all the ORB activity?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll start off by telling you I
Speaker 1: don't know the answer, but I can tell you my
Speaker 1: best I can tell you my best guess. I think
Speaker 1: you had a mixture of different things going on. I
Speaker 1: think you had real non human craft and entities flying around.
Speaker 1: I think you had reverse engineered drones that were also
Speaker 1: getting involved. And I think you had regular commercial drones
Speaker 1: getting involved. And I know how easy because I've hosted
Speaker 1: thousands of outdoors contact events I know how easy it
Speaker 1: is to look up in the sky and miss mistake,
Speaker 1: you know, just regular aircraft for something anomalous. So I
Speaker 1: think you've got everything going on there.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I do think there was There was political manipulation going on,
Speaker 1: And when I by that, what I mean is I
Speaker 1: think that the people who are really in control of
Speaker 1: this planet were trying to manipulate politicians and political parties.
Speaker 1: They were creating a big, big, big situation. They were
Speaker 1: promoting a big, big problem which they had the ability
Speaker 1: to solve, and therefore manipulate either part of political parties
Speaker 1: that were in power or coming into power. There there's
Speaker 1: a lot of psychological manipulation going on, and they was
Speaker 1: a weird time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, specifically, you know when a new president was being elected.
Speaker 2: It was happening around that time. So yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this.
Speaker 5: Is just so far out there.
Speaker 3: I kind of just throw my hands up when it
Speaker 3: comes to like the whole drone thing. I actually just
Speaker 3: thought about it just like a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: and like, I don't even know, Like it's just a mess.
Speaker 3: It's just a muddy mess. Whenever I think about it, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what my opinion is on it.
Speaker 3: And as far as the videos that Jonathan was talking about,
Speaker 3: I wonder how many of those were even real, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just so muddy to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. It's a sticky situation. But I
Speaker 2: think that Rupert, you're over there, you're able to at
Speaker 2: least discern what is coming, you know, around you, and
Speaker 2: just out of curiosity. Whenever you are trying to make contact.
Speaker 2: Are you using a specific camera lens to be able to.
Speaker 3: Capture these these entities?
Speaker 2: Are you able to just capture capture them with any
Speaker 2: old filter.
Speaker 1: The most common camera that I use is a ionics
Speaker 1: Aurora Pro night vision monocular, and those are good because
Speaker 1: they have a fairly wide field of view and they
Speaker 1: increase the levels of both visible and near infrared light,
Speaker 1: so you can see a lot with them. And they're lightweight,
Speaker 1: so those are great. If if you want to probe
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper, you you could get a thermal
Speaker 1: imaging camera, something like a Flear. I've got a Hicic
Speaker 1: Micro which is a brand which is as good as
Speaker 1: Flear but less expensive. And sometimes when you have interdimensional
Speaker 1: beings coming in, there's a flow of energy in or out,
Speaker 1: and therefore you get hotter or colder things happening that
Speaker 1: are picked up on the thermal imaging camera. I've connected
Speaker 1: with beings before, and somebody's felt them touching their face
Speaker 1: and then we see on the thermal imaging camera their
Speaker 1: face getting cold. That sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Oh see, that's what I like to hear. I like
Speaker 3: to hear like stuff like that, like the tangible evidence
Speaker 3: that you can How do you disprove someone's face going
Speaker 3: cold like that so randomly?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You do you have any other like wild stories like
Speaker 2: that of people having strange experiences that I mean, I
Speaker 2: know that you have a bunch of video footage of it,
Speaker 2: but like any other like personal stories that were maybe
Speaker 2: sent to you.
Speaker 1: I mean I could talk for twenty four hours NonStop
Speaker 1: on all of the different stories. I'll tell you one
Speaker 1: that I'm involved with at the moment that's kind of interesting,
Speaker 1: I think, and that is to do with the Ebans.
Speaker 1: The Ebans are generally considered to be that they're small,
Speaker 1: they look a little bit like grays, but they're really friendly,
Speaker 1: they're really peaceful, that they've got a sense of humor,
Speaker 1: they've got you know, emotions are comparable to ours, and
Speaker 1: they they have that they're the ones that crashed in Roswell,
Speaker 1: almost certainly, and they have then been helping the government,
Speaker 1: and there's even claims that there's been like an exchange
Speaker 1: program to their planet Serpo. You know, things like this
Speaker 1: going on. Now. I don't know how you know if
Speaker 1: all of that is true, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: what I know to be true, because I've experienced it.
Speaker 1: In a zoom meeting very much like this one maybe
Speaker 1: two years ago, we were actually projecting to the Galactic
Speaker 1: Council and being stepped forwards in front of us psychically,
Speaker 1: and we asked this being, who are you, what's your name?
Speaker 1: And they said, we're an ebon. It's a male ebon,
Speaker 1: and they gave to us visions of the future, and
Speaker 1: it's not a very happy vision. But what they're doing
Speaker 1: is they're not trying to disturb us. They're trying to
Speaker 1: warn us and prepare us. And if the future is
Speaker 1: not set in stone, we can change it if we
Speaker 1: if we're wise enough, if we listen to them. And
Speaker 1: so we were given that that message, and we asked
Speaker 1: the being what is your name? And this being told us, well,
Speaker 1: we don't have names like you have. We're mostly telepathic,
Speaker 1: but for you, we're for for our interactions with humans,
Speaker 1: we've created name, you know, human type names for ourselves.
Speaker 1: And he said, my name is Jean Luke and I
Speaker 1: was like, Jean Luke, How on earth did you get
Speaker 1: that name? And he said, I like Captain Jean Luke
Speaker 1: Picard Star Treks And so that was crazy. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell that by itself. It's like, well, that's bizarre. Are
Speaker 1: we imagining this? Is this some kind of mass mass hallucination?
Speaker 1: But about three months later, I was hosting a completely
Speaker 1: different event, and in person event in Blue Springs, Missouri,
Speaker 1: with a bunch of my psychic friends because I do
Speaker 1: like paranormal conventions and things. And they all turned and
Speaker 1: saw an ebon craft land, at least a flying saucer
Speaker 1: land about thirty feet from us. They saw five beings
Speaker 1: get out. And these are these psychics and mediums. They're professionals,
Speaker 1: and what they do is they connect with human spirits.
Speaker 1: They've never seen aliens before. This was a new thing
Speaker 1: to them. So I'm like asking questions of the beings
Speaker 1: and I say what species are you? And they say
Speaker 1: Eban and the psychics are relaying this to me because
Speaker 1: I'm not myself hearing the ebons. But then I say, well,
Speaker 1: what is what is? One of them steps forward. It's
Speaker 1: a female, the captain of the craft, a female ebon.
Speaker 1: And we say, what is your name? And I'm going
Speaker 1: to cut a long, long story short. There's a few,
Speaker 1: you know, a few more elements to this, but cutting
Speaker 1: a long story short. She says Deanna. And I say
Speaker 1: to her, how did you get that name, Dianna? She said,
Speaker 1: Jean Luke gave it to me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then she said, and our names are connected to
Speaker 1: each other. And then I'm like, counselor Deanna Troy.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, dude, Wow, this psychic didn't know anything about.
Speaker 1: This, right, No, this is logical verification. They're giving us proof.
Speaker 5: What are the statistical odds?
Speaker 3: You know? Do you know what's funny? I was going
Speaker 3: to try to play Devil's advocate, you know, and be
Speaker 3: skeptical angle, Well, maybe the psychic is just reading your
Speaker 3: mind and because you were, and that's the skeptical angle,
Speaker 3: like the psychic is still picking up on your thoughts.
Speaker 3: At that point, it's like yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like wow, and.
Speaker 1: I love Star Trek and I wasn't the first person
Speaker 1: to make the connection, but I'll tell you. In our
Speaker 1: communications with Dianna, I asked her, what can we do
Speaker 1: for you? Because too much of the problem with humans
Speaker 1: is it's all about us. Help us, help us. I
Speaker 1: asked her what can we do for you? And then
Speaker 1: everything changed. She showed us a vision of in the
Speaker 1: distant past. I'm not quite sure when, but in the past,
Speaker 1: one of their crash, one of their craft crashed and
Speaker 1: the survivors, the Ebn survivors of the crash got out
Speaker 1: and sought shelter in a cave, and human beings at
Speaker 1: the time, they found them in the cave, and they
Speaker 1: were bad to them. They cut them up, they mutilated them,
Speaker 1: they killed them, and at the time they left at
Speaker 1: least some of their remains in the cave. And she
Speaker 1: told us that there's two reasons why she's telling us.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: One is so that we can understand what that meant
Speaker 1: to them, because they're telepathic, they're empathic, they're psychically connected
Speaker 1: to each other. They were collective, and so the pain
Speaker 1: of the Ebans in that cave was felt by their
Speaker 1: whole entire species. Simultaneously, and she said, that's why we
Speaker 1: are weary of human beings. But then what she did
Speaker 1: was she said, you know you've asked us, is there
Speaker 1: anything you can do to help us? And we said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: please tell us. And she said, well, that situation is
Speaker 1: not resolved because there still remains in that cave, and
Speaker 1: I'm working with them to try to I won't go
Speaker 1: into too too much specific detail here for my own safety,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to resolve that situation with them. We're
Speaker 1: trying to find that cave.
Speaker 3: Wow, you imagine you find that cave and there's actual
Speaker 3: remains in there. Dude, this is like, it's just big
Speaker 3: stuff right here.
Speaker 2: Because this kind of stuff you almost feel like you
Speaker 2: have to take in on a bit of faith. You know,
Speaker 2: even though you know you are getting clarification from everybody else,
Speaker 2: you can't see them, you're not hearing them, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you almost have.
Speaker 3: To just.
Speaker 2: It probably feels like you're pretending at first, right, Like
Speaker 2: is it something like that or is it a little
Speaker 2: bit I'm sure it's a little bit more than just pretending,
Speaker 2: But like I'm sure there's a little bit of learning
Speaker 2: to trust your own intuition a little bit more. But
Speaker 2: is it almost like a fake it till you make
Speaker 2: it kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, yes, one hundred percent. But one of the
Speaker 1: messages they're giving to us is that to just accept
Speaker 1: something as being true without proof is logically invalid, is
Speaker 1: intellectually invalid. And if you look at the history of humanity,
Speaker 1: when humanity accepts things as being true without proof, we
Speaker 1: often get it wrong. I mean, look at the eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand gods. Yeah, you can't all have been right, But
Speaker 1: then we're so faithful and devout in our beliefs that
Speaker 1: then we go and people over it. So one of
Speaker 1: the things that they're encouraging, and what I'm the way
Speaker 1: I'm trying to live my life is to really know
Speaker 1: what I know because it's been logically proved, but also
Speaker 1: know that everything else is just you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of probability, it's probably true, if it might not be true,
Speaker 1: and I am I remain open to the possibility that
Speaker 1: some of the things that I'm perceiving are not are
Speaker 1: not literally what I'm interpreting them as being, either because
Speaker 1: they're deceiving me or because I don't yet have the
Speaker 1: intellectual capacity to grasp who they really are, and so
Speaker 1: having that ability to say, I don't know, and I'm
Speaker 1: open to all possibilities. That's the only way that we're
Speaker 1: going to advance our knowledge, and that's the only way
Speaker 1: they're going to feel comfortable coming in and telling us
Speaker 1: new stuff and educating us properly.
Speaker 5: Well as a wise philosopher, one said, you don't know
Speaker 5: what you don't know?
Speaker 3: You know, we're doing something right at least sounds like.
Speaker 2: You know What's interesting though, you mentioned about how they
Speaker 2: kind of feel things as a collective, and I, I,
Speaker 2: you know, we've we've kind of we just recently did
Speaker 2: a show kind of based upon that that essentially that
Speaker 2: maybe we're all one giant collective as well, and we've
Speaker 2: kind of just fallen from grace or we've become too individualistic,
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. But I almost wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, is that something do you believe that? Is
Speaker 2: that something that maybe one day humanity will reach some
Speaker 2: kind of collective status to where we can almost act
Speaker 2: in accordance with each other, like these entities are.
Speaker 1: No. Humanity isn't wise. Humanity is not wise enough. We're
Speaker 1: not evolved enough. We we the simplest to the simplest
Speaker 1: of problems to understand, are becoming so big on our
Speaker 1: planet that they're destroying us. So so humanity isn't going
Speaker 1: to make it. But what we evolve into, our next
Speaker 1: evolutionary step absolutely is moving in that direction. And that's
Speaker 1: really that's the power in we're what we're doing, or
Speaker 1: what we can do on this planet, and that is
Speaker 1: to position ourselves so that we are ready for that
Speaker 1: next evolutionary step.
Speaker 2: You know what, It's funny because Sean and I were
Speaker 2: just having this conversation earlier on the phone, and I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I do care about humanity. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm a human. There's a lot of humans that I love.
Speaker 2: But whenever it comes to like even the soul's progression,
Speaker 2: you know, humanity, I feel like is almost just a
Speaker 2: stepping stone on the soul's progression, right.
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? Is that silly?
Speaker 1: There's a lot of probably beliefs involved in you know,
Speaker 1: soul progression, and I'm not sure that I fully accept,
Speaker 1: you know, the the beliefs behind that. But I think
Speaker 1: I think biologically and spiritually there are different ways that
Speaker 1: our consciousnesses can progress into the future, and with technology,
Speaker 1: a form of reincarnation is possible, and we can go
Speaker 1: into bodies that are more intelligent and wiser and more ascended.
Speaker 1: And so I may just be quibbling with words here,
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is comparable to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But I think I think that's the really big that's
Speaker 1: the that's the deep lesson here. How how do we
Speaker 1: evolve to the next step? What what is involved in ascension?
Speaker 1: Is that something that we ourselves can presently as human beings,
Speaker 1: get our heads around. The answer is yes, and I
Speaker 1: think so, and that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But that that there's a sequence of very hard lessons
Speaker 1: that have to be learned in order to ascend, in
Speaker 1: order to be on the next arc metaphorically speaking, to
Speaker 1: survive what is to come into the future, to be
Speaker 1: to have to position yourself so that you can become
Speaker 1: part of those more utopian collectives.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's an interesting answer. No, I get it,
Speaker 2: And I guess I I kind of just look at
Speaker 2: consciousness as not strictly only us being Like, whenever I
Speaker 2: think about consciousness, you know, and I'm somebody I do
Speaker 2: past life regressions. I'm hypnotist for past life regressions.
Speaker 3: Some people think that's silly.
Speaker 2: I have done, you know, hundreds of them at this point,
Speaker 2: and they all seem to be pretty damn profound. A
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about having past lives or parallel
Speaker 2: lives or future lives as an extraterrestrial entity of sorts.
Speaker 2: I myself has kind of had one of those experiences
Speaker 2: as well, pretty profound, and so I guess whenever I
Speaker 2: think about consciousness, it's not always directly tied to Oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, if we reincarnate, then you're just going to
Speaker 2: be another human again. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Do you think that if reincarnation is I don't know
Speaker 2: if you believe in reincarnation, do.
Speaker 1: You I have no beliefs. I'm going to suggest an
Speaker 1: alternate possibility for why people like yourself are able to
Speaker 1: connect with real past lives. I'm certain that when regressional
Speaker 1: hypnotherapists take people back, they're able to connect with real
Speaker 1: memories from real people in real lives. What I have
Speaker 1: not been convinced of yet is that they are the
Speaker 1: lives of that person. What I think is happening is
Speaker 1: some kind of very powerful remote viewing. When when you
Speaker 1: remote view to somewhere, you meditate, you relax You reach
Speaker 1: out your mind to a pre to somewhere you want
Speaker 1: to go, and then you start seeing what's there. You
Speaker 1: also start it's not just viewing, it's feeling, it's experiencing.
Speaker 1: And hypnosis is a form of you know, relaxation is
Speaker 1: involved and consciously trying to take your mind to somewhere.
Speaker 2: And there's almost no difference between hypnosis and meditation for sure,
Speaker 2: like the state that you're the state of mind that
Speaker 2: you're being put in, they are what and what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we might be you know, it might not
Speaker 1: seem like a very important thing, but the philosophy of
Speaker 1: reincarnation often involves learning, learning in one life and then
Speaker 1: taking what you learn into the next life. But how
Speaker 1: can you learn if you don't remember.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the previous life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting theory to that. Maybe that
Speaker 2: that's what's actually going on, that you're not not exactly
Speaker 2: experiencing a past life. That's you know, and I've postulated
Speaker 2: that in the past, and I can't say that it's
Speaker 2: right or wrong in any sort of matter. And I
Speaker 2: don't even Who am I to say that people are
Speaker 2: actually for sure like certified experiencing a past life that
Speaker 2: they were, that they personally experienced. If you're just tapping
Speaker 2: into the field, if it is some kind of remote viewing,
Speaker 2: if it is some kind of collective consciousness that we're
Speaker 2: able to assayly tap into the acashak records, how can
Speaker 2: we be so sure that we were the ones that
Speaker 2: were going through that exact exact experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just the observer you were experiencing it. But
Speaker 3: that doesn't, like you said, doesn't necessarily mean that that
Speaker 3: was you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be the exact same experience that you're
Speaker 1: experiencing as the consciousness that experienced it. It can be
Speaker 1: you know, like a like a like copying a video
Speaker 1: tape across everything is copied into you. You experience it
Speaker 1: exactly as if you were that person.
Speaker 2: You know, I actually think that I like that more.
Speaker 2: I think because if it all is just one giant thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what your your thoughts are on.
Speaker 2: There's there's plenty of different thoughts out there that suggest
Speaker 2: that we are all one thing. It's just an illusion
Speaker 2: that we're all separate individuals and separate consciousnesses and separate
Speaker 2: souls and all that kind of stuff. There's the idea
Speaker 2: of pantheism that just said, yeah, it's it's all one
Speaker 2: giant illusion. It's all one actually one thing. And the
Speaker 2: the intelligence for a lack of a better word, that
Speaker 2: you come in contact with whenever you're in that meditative state,
Speaker 2: that subtle intelligence that you that you almost sense, and
Speaker 2: it's a bit of familiarity that you're whenever you're there,
Speaker 2: because it does feel like you're there literally there as
Speaker 2: in like a location. That maybe that's what we are,
Speaker 2: you know, as one giant collective. Because I mean monks
Speaker 2: and yogi's and gurus and shamans and name your spiritual
Speaker 2: hierarchy of type of person. They've all tried to, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, all tried to describe the same thing in
Speaker 2: different words, but it all kind of applies, you know,
Speaker 2: Like so I don't know, that's kind of what we've
Speaker 2: been diving into a little bit lately. So I actually
Speaker 2: I like it makes sense.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's those inconveniences like if you go
Speaker 1: to a medium and you say can I talk to
Speaker 1: my dad, great grandmother or somebody, you never get a
Speaker 1: response from the medium. In my experience, if they're a
Speaker 1: proper medium, Oh sorry, they're not in right now, They've
Speaker 1: already been reincarnated. You can always talk to them.
Speaker 3: Good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I've wondered about that too. We actually
Speaker 2: had a lady on the show like a year ago,
Speaker 2: and she said that she was communicating with her her
Speaker 2: deceased grandmother.
Speaker 5: I believe it was.
Speaker 2: Through a Roku TV, which sounds kind of crazy on
Speaker 2: the surface, right, but she like there was some kind
Speaker 2: of like weird, esoteric, kind of you know, enlightened almost
Speaker 2: messages that were coming through on a Roku TV. Now
Speaker 2: is that the modern day Ouiji board? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but the messages seemed to align with pretty much what
Speaker 2: everybody else is tapping into, you know, whether you are
Speaker 2: talking to extraterrestrials or spirits or God or your higher
Speaker 2: self for whatever, you know, it all seems to pretty much,
Speaker 2: you know, match up in that sense, so really strange.
Speaker 2: You know what I did want to ask you though,
Speaker 2: because you brought up Star Trek and me being a
Speaker 2: past live progressionist obviously from Dolores Cannon with the quantum
Speaker 2: healing hypnosis technique. She did so many interviews over her years, right,
Speaker 2: and she wrote a lot of books, twenty some odd
Speaker 2: books about her experiences from hypnotizing individuals. And she said
Speaker 2: that she believed that this reality is almost like a holideck,
Speaker 2: you know that, essentially, like there could be reality stacked
Speaker 2: up on top of realities, up on top of realities,
Speaker 2: almost like the holodeck kind of hologram thing that's going
Speaker 2: on in Star Trek. What are your thoughts on that
Speaker 2: is that? I don't know a good synonym, I guess
Speaker 2: for what it is for where the aliens could be existing?
Speaker 2: Could could they just literally be right here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that the way that we use words,
Speaker 1: the way we define words is important here. I yeah,
Speaker 1: I live long and prosper to you to or as
Speaker 1: I say, may tuktok be with you. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: see any evidence to suggest that our reality, at least
Speaker 1: I don't see any convincing evidence to suggest that the
Speaker 1: reality we live in isn't real. This, this is, this
Speaker 1: is as real as it as it gets. I think, however,
Speaker 1: we're not seeing all of reality. And when we talk
Speaker 1: about something like holograms or holographs, often we're talking about
Speaker 1: a projection of something onto it, like a screen for example,
Speaker 1: or onto our vision, and from the perspective of we
Speaker 1: are ultra dimensional beings, and all we're really perceiving is
Speaker 1: almost like a thin film of ourselves and the physical world.
Speaker 1: That's really all we're seeing. It's almost like, you know,
Speaker 1: a projection of a small slice of everything that is
Speaker 1: real that we're perceiving. So I'm sure that reality is
Speaker 1: a lot bigger and more complicated than we understand. But
Speaker 1: I don't think like it's like in the Matrix movie.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're all like brains in vats being controlled.
Speaker 1: You know. I think we do have these physical bodies,
Speaker 1: but there's definitely I mean, we are being controlled, but
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're being controlled by humans, by humans,
Speaker 1: unethical humans.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, now of course I have to ask you
Speaker 2: what are have you ever, you know, dabbled into psychedelics,
Speaker 2: because that is something that a lot of people day,
Speaker 2: A lot of people say myself included to where a
Speaker 2: reality seems a bit, I don't want to say, distorted,
Speaker 2: especially if you've ever done like DMT anything like really
Speaker 2: out there that it almost seems like you're literally being
Speaker 2: transported to another reality, and that this reality almost ceases
Speaker 2: to exist within the moment. Have you ever touched upon psychedelics?
Speaker 5: Is that your thing at all?
Speaker 1: I personally haven't. However, I don't see any reason to
Speaker 1: exclude the possibility, even the probability, that psychedelics or different
Speaker 1: kinds of medications or drugs might open up our perceptions
Speaker 1: to higher dimensional spaces and facilitate interactions with other beings.
Speaker 1: I think, based on what people have told me, I
Speaker 1: think that's probably likely to be true.
Speaker 3: Checks out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a whole series on the findings over
Speaker 2: at the Imperial College of London on the DMTX studies,
Speaker 2: mind blowing. If you ever get the opportunity go check
Speaker 2: that out for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about, you know, the fact that we're
Speaker 3: only getting a small sliver. You know, it's not so
Speaker 3: much that we're in a simulation or it's not real,
Speaker 3: but we only see part of it. And then you
Speaker 3: have a substance that can allow your brain to connect
Speaker 3: and way more ways than it usually does while you're awake,
Speaker 3: then maybe you're able to see more slivers filter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think that's kind of what's happening. There's definitely
Speaker 3: times or you know experiences that I've had where you know,
Speaker 3: you look at things and it's like, oh, I feel
Speaker 3: like that's always there. It's like when you look at
Speaker 3: the stars at night, and I know you haven't tried it,
Speaker 3: but if you look at the stars and you're experiencing that,
Speaker 3: it's almost like you're se something that is always happening,
Speaker 3: but you just don't have that perception while not partaking,
Speaker 3: if you will. So, yeah, I don't know. It's very
Speaker 3: very interesting, and I'm actually i'd be curious to see
Speaker 3: what your experiences would be.
Speaker 5: Like, Oh, man, please let me do it with you.
Speaker 3: He's not just at the table, dude, he's driving the ship,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And he meets his wife
Speaker 3: from the future. I'm almost convinced.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean it's been proved to me countless
Speaker 1: times that these higher dimensional spaces and these higher dimensional
Speaker 1: beings are there and so, and I'm sure that there's
Speaker 1: several different ways of being able to perceive them. I
Speaker 1: think part of it is genetic. I think it can
Speaker 1: run through family lines. I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: time when people have had nearly died or been really
Speaker 1: ill or had near death experiences, it's somehow weakens the link,
Speaker 1: you know, the anchor to our physical reality, and people
Speaker 1: can see out more personally. Right now, I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: being anchored to the physical realm.
Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting, I mean when you're having experiences like
Speaker 2: yourself without any assistance, I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why even take that next step? You're
Speaker 2: already there, you know, don't fix it if it ain't broken.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll die one day and then I'll get there.
Speaker 2: So right, yeah, you're going to have that blast off
Speaker 2: one day. Just out of curiosity. Have you ever looked
Speaker 2: into Chris Bledsoe at all?
Speaker 1: You know? I did. I watched a Ross Cooled Heart
Speaker 1: interview with him a couple of months ago because I
Speaker 1: was curious and a lot of people were talking about him,
Speaker 1: and he seemed like a really nice guy. He seemed
Speaker 1: he I mean, I don't know, but he's seemed to
Speaker 1: be having real paranormal experiences.
Speaker 5: Seems genuine.
Speaker 1: He see, he seems genuine. I have a friends, a
Speaker 1: lot of friends who are in high places, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say, in the in the spiritual UFO paranormal communities,
Speaker 1: and some of them have have said that you know,
Speaker 1: he some of the things that he's seeing and saying
Speaker 1: those are orbs, that they're definitely aircraft. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it does seem to be the case that
Speaker 1: a lot of what he's seeing is also genuine. And
Speaker 1: I liked that he he wasn't really rigid about his interpretations.
Speaker 1: I liked that he, you know, he had interpretations of
Speaker 1: the beings he was seeing, and he had he has
Speaker 1: a you know, a belief system, but he he was
Speaker 1: opinently not tied to that.
Speaker 5: Kind of loose, loose interpretation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really important, you know, to to maintain that
Speaker 3: discernment of you know, just going all the way to
Speaker 3: one side. You know. I feel like you have to
Speaker 3: have at least a little bit of that skepticism to
Speaker 3: you and and really try to you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: you don't want to just go, you know, too far
Speaker 3: one way, you know. So I think that that's a
Speaker 3: that's probably a good thing to have.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well, of course we have to ask you what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Bashar? And I guess really the only
Speaker 2: reason I'm trying to ask these because I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people are saying a lot of things,
Speaker 2: and I want to see if the stories can possibly corroborate,
Speaker 2: or you know, is there some some turds in the
Speaker 2: punch bowl kind of thing?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Not saying that either any of these individuals would be
Speaker 2: said turds in the punch bowl, but just you know, hypothetically,
Speaker 2: not hypothetically.
Speaker 5: I just want to know what your opinion is of Bashar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to answer this in a slightly circuitous manner.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who can channel and
Speaker 1: who claim to be able to channel, and a lot
Speaker 1: of those people really can channel. Some of them think
Speaker 1: they can, but they can't. Out of the ones that
Speaker 1: are genuine, that are really connecting with some kind of
Speaker 1: being that is non human. There are challenges two channeling
Speaker 1: with one hundred percent accuracy, and one of those challenges
Speaker 1: is you can't say anything that you don't already have
Speaker 1: the vocabulary for and the intellectual, conceptual grasp of. And
Speaker 1: so what I have found when I am working with
Speaker 1: any channelers or mediums is that if I'm leading the session,
Speaker 1: if I'm asking questions through a channeler or through a
Speaker 1: medium to these beings, and then I'm getting an answer
Speaker 1: through the medium, that medium or that challenger. There is
Speaker 1: filtering going on.
Speaker 3: There has to be.
Speaker 1: There has to be. It's unavoidable, and I'm not faulting
Speaker 1: the medium or the challenge the channeler, but there is filtering.
Speaker 1: And I have seen often that the channeler will listen
Speaker 1: to my question, and even listening to my question, they
Speaker 1: don't They don't channel that question to the higher dimensional
Speaker 1: being without filtering. They filter my question into the vocabulary
Speaker 1: and the concepts that they already know and understand. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I when I'm working with channelers, I realize the
Speaker 1: ultimately the channeler's beliefs are what I'm talking to, and
Speaker 1: that I'm really only talking to a person, even if
Speaker 1: an alien is present, I'm really only talking to a person.
Speaker 1: One example of this is and I won't name names
Speaker 1: because I don't like to criticize people publicly, but some
Speaker 1: well known channeler of Pleadeans, in one of their channel
Speaker 1: channeling sessions said something along the lines of the biggest
Speaker 1: problem in the Earth is having right now is five
Speaker 1: G and that the solution is we all need to
Speaker 1: paint our walls with lead paint. Now, as a scientist
Speaker 1: who understands the dangers and the toxicity of lead. I
Speaker 1: would say that's a really bad idea, and I do
Speaker 1: not believe that a Pleaadian would just give that piece
Speaker 1: of advice. In every way, I find that piece of
Speaker 1: advice to be wrong. And so with any panel, I
Speaker 1: would say it never hurts to listen to them, but
Speaker 1: always be open to looking for inconsistencies in what they're saying,
Speaker 1: and look and see whether the personality of the person
Speaker 1: of the human is coming through in the answers, the
Speaker 1: personality in the beliefs of the human. If they are,
Speaker 1: it's probably not as reliable as people who have learnt
Speaker 1: to not be attached to beliefs or expectations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting because now I mean, if you are
Speaker 3: if there is a channel happening, there's an interpretation going
Speaker 3: from you first to even form the question, then to
Speaker 3: the channeler, then the channeler to the alien, then back
Speaker 3: to you. And by the time you get the information back,
Speaker 3: you have your own filter that it goes through and
Speaker 3: you're interpreting it in that way. And so by the
Speaker 3: time you get the message, it's like who knows, really,
Speaker 3: it's like a game hotel phone at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so what I try and do when I
Speaker 1: work with channelers or mediums, is I try to word
Speaker 1: questions that they don't that the channels and mediums are
Speaker 1: not gonna filter the question out. For example, on TikTok's homeworld,
Speaker 1: I could say what is the molecular composition of the ocean?
Speaker 1: If I say what is the ocean made out of
Speaker 1: to the channeler, they'll probably say water, okay. But if
Speaker 1: I ask the channeler how many atoms are in the
Speaker 1: molecules that the ocean is made out of, I've immediately
Speaker 1: lost most channels. I've gone above most channels scientific ability,
Speaker 1: and all they're really listening for is a number. So
Speaker 1: that helps the message to be put, you know, channeled
Speaker 1: one way and then channeled the other way with as
Speaker 1: little filtering as possible.
Speaker 5: Do you have any like great channelers that you'd be
Speaker 5: able to give a shout out to?
Speaker 3: Possibly?
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not going to call it the bad ones, obviously,
Speaker 2: but like, are there there are a couple of really
Speaker 2: good ones that we can kind of keep an eye.
Speaker 3: Out for that come to mind.
Speaker 5: Not right now, some of the names.
Speaker 1: I apologize, I would I would want to get that
Speaker 1: permission to be saying their name on a podcast before
Speaker 1: before sayingstand.
Speaker 2: Very well, but I do work with some Yeah, okay, No,
Speaker 2: that's okay.
Speaker 5: And I do have another question the uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've looked into to the Stars
Speaker 2: Academy with damn it, what is his name? The drummer
Speaker 2: or the singer or whatever.
Speaker 3: The drummer I remember, kill me on this one.
Speaker 1: I just I know who you're talking about along.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, and I think that he He recently
Speaker 2: went on to Joe Rogan's show and he was talking
Speaker 2: about how he believes that the the ancient civilization of
Speaker 2: Atlantis was actually the He believes that that the Atlanteans
Speaker 2: are who we refer to as the Greek gods, and
Speaker 2: I thought, wow, that is the first time I ever
Speaker 2: heard it. I don't know if that's crazy or not,
Speaker 2: but man, if that's the real thing, I mean, have
Speaker 2: you ever heard anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard lots of theories like that, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm fascinated by them all. I'm fascinated by James
Speaker 1: Cameron's pursuit of Atlantis. He funds a lot of expeditions
Speaker 1: to try and figure out where it is. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated by the connection between old stories, old mythologies, and
Speaker 1: aliens and non human entities. I don't have a strong
Speaker 1: opinion because I haven't researched it enough, so I can't
Speaker 1: really tell you that I know anything.
Speaker 3: No, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean the only reason I ask is earlier we
Speaker 2: were talking about, uh, you know, are is it is
Speaker 2: it possible that the aliens are what we would refer
Speaker 2: to as gods? And you know, I'm sure statistically that's
Speaker 2: probably a possibility, right, But as far as that goes,
Speaker 2: I mean, are there any Is that ever a question
Speaker 2: that you've ever asked the ets, like were you ever
Speaker 2: referred to as a god?
Speaker 5: And who worshiped you? Or anything like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm sure that there are beings. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that most of the beings that were connecting with
Speaker 1: non human intelligences have in the past been perceived as
Speaker 1: being either gods or messengers of gods specifics, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe Egyptian gods would, I
Speaker 1: would think. But the word the word god is a
Speaker 1: tricky thing because people ascribe to the word god so
Speaker 1: many different attributes. Creator of the universe, creator of the Earth,
Speaker 1: creator of human beings. Some people. You know, ancient people
Speaker 1: used to think that the gods were were vengeful and
Speaker 1: vicious and you had to be careful of them, you know,
Speaker 1: you had god fearing. But the more more modern take
Speaker 1: is that there that God is, you know, theorized or
Speaker 1: believed to be supreme, supreme, supremely moral. So what I
Speaker 1: like to try and do when I'm when I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about God's at all is try and break it down
Speaker 1: into a specific claim. For example, for example, did God
Speaker 1: create human beings? Was there was there was there a
Speaker 1: consciousness that created hum human beings. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: a scientist, you know, evolution, natural selection. I learned that
Speaker 1: that's that science. So for me, being able to prove
Speaker 1: something that is contrary to the idea of a creator
Speaker 1: being just sort of pulling us out of the dirt
Speaker 1: kind of thing, that disproves there being a God who
Speaker 1: created us. For me, I know that's incredibly controversial and
Speaker 1: I lose a lot of you know, you know, support
Speaker 1: because of it. But there are aspects of of the
Speaker 1: phenomena that people describe as God or label God that
Speaker 1: I'm sure are real. If you pray out there to
Speaker 1: the universe, I'm sure that there are consciousness is higher consciousnesses.
Speaker 1: You might say, who can come in and answer your prayers,
Speaker 1: And indeed, I've known that happen. The idea of collective
Speaker 1: consciousnesses is an important one because it is you know,
Speaker 1: it's maybe not going to happen very effectively for human beings,
Speaker 1: but all around the universe there are collective consciousnesses where
Speaker 1: the beings do gain a telepathic psychic connection and link
Speaker 1: to each other, and then their evolution progresses along the
Speaker 1: line of the collective strengthening. So sometimes I actively make
Speaker 1: contact not with just individual aliens, but with collectives. And
Speaker 1: when we collect, when we communicate with collectives, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like talking to God. That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: And I know that some people sometimes have felt like
Speaker 1: they're in the presence of something like God. Well that's
Speaker 1: an interpretation, but I think probably what's happening is they're
Speaker 1: connect acting with a collective. And I apologize if I've
Speaker 1: offended anybody I know or a controversial subject.
Speaker 3: I think we're all we're all open here, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're all trying to figure out the truth.
Speaker 2: So, and one of my favorite quotes is from Aristotle,
Speaker 2: who said it is the mark of an educated mind
Speaker 2: to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Speaker 2: So you know, we can. You don't have to agree
Speaker 2: to listen to somebody. You know, this is not an
Speaker 2: echo chamber by any means. Everybody's entitled to their own
Speaker 2: opinions and experiences and stuff like that. I would never
Speaker 2: tell another person that what you believe is stupid or wrong,
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of it is based upon
Speaker 2: individual experiences, you know.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And the biggest message that these beings are
Speaker 1: giving to me is put peace above everything else, which
Speaker 1: means that we should be putting peace above our beliefs,
Speaker 1: above our politics, above any of our opinions or any
Speaker 1: of our differences. And honestly, if a god existed who
Speaker 1: who put piece first, I'd be on board with aligning
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, don't seem don't seem to be too many
Speaker 2: of those. So there was somebody in the chat that asked,
Speaker 2: could it possibly be that they are old gods or Nephelom,
Speaker 2: maybe an Anaki, or are these.
Speaker 3: What are you? What are your beliefs on that? He
Speaker 3: has no beliefs.
Speaker 2: Saying that, but what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: There we go?
Speaker 1: So I don't know the answer. I'm thinking Nephelim. It
Speaker 1: just takes me to the show Supernatural, and you know
Speaker 1: that's an awesome show. Well, isn't a Nephelim supposed to
Speaker 1: be an angel? Human?
Speaker 3: Hybrid?
Speaker 5: Angels came women?
Speaker 1: Yeah? If, And that's pretty much the story of some
Speaker 1: of these alien species highybrid beings. And I think I
Speaker 1: know that hybrids exist. We communicate with some of them,
Speaker 1: and so from that perspective, yeah, if you equate some
Speaker 1: of these alien beings with angels, then yeah, nephelim. Real.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, did God send the flood because of that?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, DC said it might sound silly, but I
Speaker 2: once saw three lights look like they were falling like
Speaker 2: leaves side to side, then like a flash shot out
Speaker 2: over the houses, over the water tower. I was not
Speaker 2: the only one who saw it. Man, people are having
Speaker 2: a lot of wild experiences and it seems to be
Speaker 2: ramping up a lot. Do you think that are they are?
Speaker 2: Is this kind of activity ramping up? Or has there
Speaker 2: been kind of a rise in consciousness that allows us
Speaker 2: to be able to tap into that a little bit more?
Speaker 2: What do you think is actually going on, because it
Speaker 2: does seem to be happening a lot more now than
Speaker 2: you know then it was documented, say, thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it. I think it. I would find
Speaker 1: it hard to prove it one way or the other,
Speaker 1: because there's there's more people on the planet now than
Speaker 1: there ever was before, and we have recording technologies like
Speaker 1: we didn't in the past, and I think to some
Speaker 1: extent people understand space more. That's weird. I did just
Speaker 1: see a flashing weird object outside of my window.
Speaker 3: To go outside.
Speaker 1: So I don't know the answer to that question, but
Speaker 1: I will tell you that there's an acceleration towards something
Speaker 1: big happening.
Speaker 5: It seems that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking from a scientific proving kind of perspective, you know,
Speaker 1: we are we have been putting both carbon dioxide and
Speaker 1: methane into the atmosphere like this for a good number
Speaker 1: of years. That is absolutely provable and verifiable to any scientist.
Speaker 1: And the temperatures have been going like this, and those
Speaker 1: temperatures and those gass it's all accelerating. It's not turning around.
Speaker 1: People can say, oh, technology is going to save us
Speaker 1: or aliens are going to save us. Nope, Nope, No,
Speaker 1: we're heading towards catastrophe and that is being shown to
Speaker 1: us in visions. They're trying to help us avoid it.
Speaker 1: We're not because we can't. Humanity as a species can't
Speaker 1: see the reality of what's happening clearly enough in order
Speaker 1: to stop it from happening. So what's going to happen
Speaker 1: is the Earth is becoming hotter and less habitable and
Speaker 1: we are moving into a climate catastrophe where the population
Speaker 1: of the planet is going to crash from billions back
Speaker 1: down to probably millions. It's basically another flood. Is God
Speaker 1: causing it? Well, if humans created God, then yes, you
Speaker 1: know it's caused by humanity, and it can be compared
Speaker 1: to a biblical flood. Whereby there's going to be a
Speaker 1: metaphorical arc that will allow some people to move through
Speaker 1: into the future, to survive into the future, to then
Speaker 1: become the next stage in evolution, and it's not going
Speaker 1: to be humans. It's going to be hybridized. It's going
Speaker 1: to be genetically engineered. And what I'm trying to help
Speaker 1: people to to do, like the big picture here, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to help people to get on that arc. And
Speaker 1: but you're only going to be able to get on
Speaker 1: the arc if you can live peacefully with the other animals.
Speaker 3: M interesting. Hopefully it's got a really good air conditioner,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think I think it will it will have good
Speaker 1: air conditioning.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, what about seeing things in the ocean, because
Speaker 2: you've seen things in the spiritual realm?
Speaker 3: What are they?
Speaker 5: Why are they saying the same thing?
Speaker 2: Okay, so what are your thoughts about just you know,
Speaker 2: the craft that seems to be what is the term
Speaker 2: submersible objects?
Speaker 3: Are they?
Speaker 2: Are they living in the ocean? Are they just jumping
Speaker 2: through a portal? What do you think is going on there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think there's different aliens or non humanities that
Speaker 1: are living all around the planet in all different habitats.
Speaker 1: They're living in mountains, they're living under the ground, they're
Speaker 1: living throughout the oceans. But because their technologies enable them
Speaker 1: to be interdimensional, we often don't see them. We only
Speaker 1: see them when they're just passing through our little little
Speaker 1: thin film of reality. But yeah, they're all over and
Speaker 1: we communicate with a lot of them I've talked to.
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to establish a strong connection with
Speaker 1: with ocean dwelling beings. We have gone into some of
Speaker 1: their underground facilities psychically and they are banking up genes, genomes.
Speaker 1: There are extinct species down there that they're sort of
Speaker 1: taken care of. We've connected with with beings in Lake
Speaker 1: I called them the Eyrians, but they they told us
Speaker 1: about facing environmental problems there. We're connecting with being a
Speaker 1: type of being that I call goblins. They're kind of
Speaker 1: goblin like, but they're friendly, they're nice, they're shy, they're small,
Speaker 1: with bony kind of dinosaur or dragon type tales, that's
Speaker 1: how people describe them. And they're they're being negatively impacted
Speaker 1: by environmental problems. They they showed up to one of
Speaker 1: our our meetings holding one of their babies that was
Speaker 1: either dead or dying, and they had one one word
Speaker 1: that they communicated to us my group, and that was help.
Speaker 1: And so the the and I'm saying this with with
Speaker 1: knowledge at least I know, because we've seen these beings
Speaker 1: in multiple locations and multiple people have seen them and
Speaker 1: they always have sort of the same common characteristics. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we there's there's lots of beings that live around the planet.
Speaker 2: Well and well, I think Bigfoot would be one of
Speaker 2: those as well.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I mean.
Speaker 5: Bigfoots interdimensional, right.
Speaker 3: Big feet?
Speaker 1: Is that the most funny? I never know what to bigfoots.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, we have a toothbrush. I have more
Speaker 2: than one of those, you know, right, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also another question in the chat was what about the underground,
Speaker 2: underground beings possibly lizard people. Well, that would be maybe reptilian, reptilian.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, coincidentally, I watched a program on reptilians today,
Speaker 1: a documentary well full of theories about reptilians, and pretty
Speaker 1: much I was swearing all the way through because it
Speaker 1: was a complete misrepresentation of the reality of reptilians. You
Speaker 1: don't have to look far on this world to see
Speaker 1: human beings doing bad things, right, And it's easy for
Speaker 1: human beings to say, no, actually, human beings are good,
Speaker 1: but we're being misled. I don't that's not what I
Speaker 1: see evidence. For a few years ago, I hosted an
Speaker 1: event in Las Vegas because there are reptilians in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: and I've had psychic friends who have seen them and
Speaker 1: be able to see through their disguise. They can see
Speaker 1: that they're reptilian, and they've telepathically in their minds. My
Speaker 1: friends have said, you're not quite human, are you? And
Speaker 1: the rectilians have responded by dropping their disguise and showing
Speaker 1: them their reptilian faces.
Speaker 5: My god, I'm going to go up to every person
Speaker 5: now and ask them that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it in your mind. If you're sitting in
Speaker 1: a coffee shop, look across at each person. No, not
Speaker 1: coffee shops, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, sprouts, look at each person.
Speaker 5: They like the organics.
Speaker 1: Huh they do. Say to them, in your mind, are
Speaker 1: you human? And if they turn around and look at
Speaker 1: you or rush out quickly, they're probably reptilian or talk white.
Speaker 3: Holy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, so I realized a few years ago that people
Speaker 1: were putting these reptilians down. But the friends that I
Speaker 1: have who have had encounters with them were positive. Like
Speaker 1: the one I just described, This reptilian showed the woman
Speaker 1: what my friend what she wanted to see, which was, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not human, I'm reptilian. There you go. And so
Speaker 1: I hosted an event in Vegas entitled Reptilians Invited, and
Speaker 1: I openly invited are there any reptilians out there? I'm
Speaker 1: actually doing the same thing like this week on Friday,
Speaker 1: we're doing the same thing. We opened it up reptilians invited,
Speaker 1: and we invited reptilians in disguise to come along, and
Speaker 1: we set up this meeting so that we could look
Speaker 1: individually into the eyes of each other and let each
Speaker 1: other see if we were at all reptilian. Now there
Speaker 1: was one contender, but nothing, nothing provable. But what happened then?
Speaker 1: About two weeks later, when I was hosting an event
Speaker 1: in Texas, I suddenly felt the presence of a being coming,
Speaker 1: coming in and connecting with me. And I turned to
Speaker 1: the humans and I said, is anybody seeing anything next
Speaker 1: to me? And one woman said, yep, a reptilian just
Speaker 1: appeared next to you. And I turned to the reptilian
Speaker 1: and I said, you're welcome here, Thank you very much
Speaker 1: for being here. A couple of weeks ago, we reached
Speaker 1: out to you in friendship and peace. We would like
Speaker 1: to offer our friendship to you, and the reptilian said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know. That's why we're here. We've come to be
Speaker 1: your friends and to protect you. And ever since then,
Speaker 1: I've had reptilians come to my events and stand guard
Speaker 1: in our events. We've even had one who was called Ichod,
Speaker 1: who healed, an energy healer, a professional energy healer like
Speaker 1: demonologists and things like this. And she had been healing
Speaker 1: all day and she had taken on some dark energies
Speaker 1: and this reptilian, this big male reptilian, suddenly appeared in
Speaker 1: front of her at my event and like sniffing her
Speaker 1: and stuff. And she's like, hello, who are you? And
Speaker 1: it said Ichod. It's like, well, hello, ICoD, And then
Speaker 1: Iicod went around to her back and put her hands
Speaker 1: on her back and slowly drew out like so looking
Speaker 1: out the poison from her wound. And she very quickly
Speaker 1: felt completely cleansed. And ever since then she's she's had
Speaker 1: a relationship with Ikard, and Ichord works with her to
Speaker 1: help clear homes that are unclean. We work with two
Speaker 1: two reptilian sisters and Tushusha, who actually are on the
Speaker 1: Galactic Council. So Reptilians in my mind, if you go up,
Speaker 1: if you're mean to them, they'll be mean back. But
Speaker 1: if you're nice to them, they'll be your friends.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this world is so fascinating.
Speaker 2: I love it so crazy. God, I love talking about
Speaker 2: this stuff. This is so much fun. Well, I look,
Speaker 2: we don't want to keep you all night, and thank
Speaker 2: you so much for the time that you've given us.
Speaker 2: This was an absolute blast. I would love to be
Speaker 2: able to do it again. Maybe we can attend a
Speaker 2: conference or a get together at some time.
Speaker 5: We would love to be involved with that.
Speaker 2: Me and always talk about, you know, going out in
Speaker 2: the desert and just getting real weird and trying to
Speaker 2: I mean it is real weird, but going out in
Speaker 2: the desert and maybe trying to have some kind of contact,
Speaker 2: because you know, that's something that it's it's not too
Speaker 2: far of a reach. It's absolutely believable. Like I believe
Speaker 2: what what you were saying. I believe you know, in
Speaker 2: the experiences that you're describing, and it's just so awesome
Speaker 2: to be able to just connect like that.
Speaker 5: That is so interesting to get.
Speaker 3: To the level of knowing, you know, like you have
Speaker 3: an experience like that, Like you know, Rupert was saying,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have beliefs, you know, so everything he's he's experienced,
Speaker 3: it's like he knows because he's he was there right,
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And so like I would love
Speaker 3: to have an experience like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, well you inviteed to my events. Absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3: Yes, it will be out there.
Speaker 2: Do you have any coming up in Arizona over the
Speaker 2: next six or eight months.
Speaker 1: Not that I've put on my schedule yet, but almost
Speaker 1: certainly yes, because I'm going to go back to Arizona, definitely,
Speaker 1: to Sedona. I host events in Phoenix also, you know
Speaker 1: the Travis Walton area, Snowflake what's it called, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what it's called, but the Sitgreaves National Forest Area.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will definitely be coming to Arizona in
Speaker 1: the next few months.
Speaker 3: That'd be great. That'd be great. We'll be looking forward
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be looking out for that. DC said, how
Speaker 2: about Ontario?
Speaker 1: I have not been to Ontario yet? Wait, is that again?
Speaker 1: I have? That's is that on the northern shore of
Speaker 1: Lake Erie. My geography is terrible. I would love to
Speaker 1: get all around. And now that you've said Ontario, I
Speaker 1: will make note of that and go ahead and join
Speaker 1: my my group, follow me on TikTok all track, and
Speaker 1: I will certainly publish my tour schedules.
Speaker 2: Awesome, can't wait. Nick, Did you have anything that you
Speaker 2: wanted to ask specifically, sir? You know I was actually
Speaker 2: kind of hoping that you were going to tune in
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You must have been a little
Speaker 2: busy tonight with all of your experiences.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I was trying to finish up some work
Speaker 8: and listen at the same time. But honestly, no, I
Speaker 8: was just enjoying. I was just enjoying listening to all
Speaker 8: of his stories, to be honest, so much fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and I really appreciate the approach on all of
Speaker 3: your findings and the things that you're looking into as
Speaker 3: far as you know, remaining skeptical and using the scientific
Speaker 3: background that you have, and I think that's what we
Speaker 3: need as far as the spiritual, the scientific, everything kind
Speaker 3: of put together, you know, and really trying to discern
Speaker 3: the difference of the truth and the bull If you will.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: And for anybody that wants to be able to reach
Speaker 2: out and follow you that would Is it only TikTok
Speaker 2: at at orb trek or do you have other places
Speaker 2: that they can find you as well.
Speaker 1: The center of my activity is I have a Patreon
Speaker 1: group which is patreon dot com stroke ruput scroup no
Speaker 1: apostrophe ruputs group. There's a free membership option and if
Speaker 1: you sign up for that, you'll you'll get sent email
Speaker 1: notifications of all my upcoming events. I host a weekly
Speaker 1: usually on a Saturday. I host a weekly free event.
Speaker 1: But if you really like what I'm doing, I want
Speaker 1: to get involved, then join one of my tears.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: This was a great conversation. We'll definitely be keeping up
Speaker 2: with you, Rupert.
Speaker 3: This was this was awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming to hang out with
Speaker 2: us tonight, and we'll keep in touch with you and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, reach out if you ever want to come
Speaker 2: back on brother.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jonathan, thank you Sean, and thank you everybody
Speaker 1: that's here that has been listening. I've really enjoyed my conversations.
Speaker 3: With you, all right, I appreciate that braving man.
Speaker 2: That being said, Sean, we do have a tarot card, sir,
Speaker 2: that you would like to get to.
Speaker 3: Yes, we got the Ace of Swords this fine evening,
Speaker 3: which I think is appropriate.
Speaker 5: I feel like Ace of Swords.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me find that real quick. We just do
Speaker 3: a one card pool, you know, keep it simple, just
Speaker 3: to just to kind of see if it goes along
Speaker 3: with what we've been talking about on the show and
Speaker 3: if there's any kind of correlations. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 3: usually there there is, usually there's something that you can
Speaker 3: pull from it and go, oh, that's that's pretty fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh so the Ace of Swords. The Ace
Speaker 2: of Swords brings you the gift of a new beginning
Speaker 2: by offering clear insight and new ideas. On this card,
Speaker 2: we see the hand of the Divine emerging from a cloud,
Speaker 2: offering a single sword with a crown atop it. The
Speaker 2: crown is symbolic of consciousness and clear ideas that have
Speaker 2: been received and are ready to be put into action,
Speaker 2: as shown by the ferns that dangle from it, resembling
Speaker 2: a wreath of victory. Beneath the hand and sword is
Speaker 2: a mountain range, representing the ability of the higher self
Speaker 2: to see far above the ground to receive this divine insight.
Speaker 3: Itude, lifting up your consciousness to be able to receive
Speaker 3: said messages or interactions with said entities.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, perfect I love the message. All right, well,
Speaker 2: I think we will wrap it up right there. I
Speaker 2: think it perfectly correlated with the episode. So great conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for joining us. If you would like
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Speaker 3: Oh man, this was just a very fascinating. It's everything
Speaker 3: I wanted in this episode, you know. And to repeat
Speaker 3: what I was saying earlier as far as the whole
Speaker 3: scientific approach, I really that's I really appreciate that, man,
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Perfect all right, Well, everybody else hanged tight and we
Speaker 2: are going to get over to that meditation.
Speaker 3: But look, if.
Speaker 2: Rupert came here and he taught you anything.
Speaker 3: It's that you don't know what you don't know, so don't.
Speaker 2: Just get weird, stay weird. Wow that was that was otherworldly, bro,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't expect to have anything like really profound
Speaker 2: or anything like that happened because it took me a
Speaker 2: little minute, Like I think like it took me like
Speaker 2: five or six minutes to really get into that. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's because a lack of sleep or whatever. But whenever
Speaker 2: I finally did get into that super deep meditative state, dude,
Speaker 2: I was seeing shit.
Speaker 3: Like like.
Speaker 2: More so than most other times, you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: I mean, so at first I saw it was like this,
Speaker 2: so water is always level, right, it's always horizontal, but
Speaker 2: I was able to in this meditative vision. I guess
Speaker 2: it was like water was standing straight up, almost as
Speaker 2: if it was a divider between worlds that you know,
Speaker 2: our world has the air, the other world of the
Speaker 2: other realm or whatever, and it was divided by the
Speaker 2: sheath of water right standing vertically up. And and like
Speaker 2: there was this like amphibian looking alien and and she
Speaker 2: was like blue and green and like purple, and dude
Speaker 2: had like fins and shit, you know, like on on
Speaker 2: the back and on the arms and stuff, right, and
Speaker 2: you know, she was like just putting her hand up
Speaker 2: against like the water or something like that, and up
Speaker 2: against me. And I was like, wow, this I I'm
Speaker 2: not making this up, you know, like I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: think of something like this. And then it was like
Speaker 2: we were taken to like where like where we lived
Speaker 2: or something like that, and it was like this crazy
Speaker 2: sunset and we were like in the water. So that's
Speaker 2: why I think Amphibian like could be on land in
Speaker 2: water either way. Right, we were in this water and
Speaker 2: looking at this sunset. But it was like so fantastical
Speaker 2: the sunset was and we were just living, like just
Speaker 2: swimming and that's like what we did.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a, oh, we're gonna go to the
Speaker 2: pool today. No, It's like that's our life, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And and it was just so peaceful
Speaker 2: and the ambiance of the entire thing and all the
Speaker 2: the amazing colors, I mean colors that you don't see
Speaker 2: in reality, you know, the the oranges and the purples,
Speaker 2: and like the sky was like orange and purple. The
Speaker 2: water was like purpleish green, but very like mystical in
Speaker 2: a sense. And it just seemed like I went somewhere
Speaker 2: because why I've never even pictured anything like that in
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I don't know, somewhere. And
Speaker 5: then I got up out of that meditation. I was tearing.
Speaker 5: I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing, dude, that's amazing. I you know, It's
Speaker 3: funny because I've had experiences, you know, where I would
Speaker 3: see like a circle, you know, and it would kind
Speaker 3: of like fade away from me or whatever. And this
Speaker 3: is just this isn't of the imagination. This is like
Speaker 3: stuff happening just with you know, my eyes closed. And
Speaker 3: before I've had times where I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm staring into a ring light, you know, and maybe
Speaker 3: that there's a little bit to do with that, and
Speaker 3: it's playing into what it is that I'm seeing. But
Speaker 3: I don't have a ring light anymore, and so these
Speaker 3: are like little individual like led strips or whatever. So
Speaker 3: that circle thing came in and it was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, it's really strange. It'll pop in and then
Speaker 3: it just kind of as soon as I start to
Speaker 3: really notice it or pay attention to it. It just
Speaker 3: kind of fades away, you know. And this isn't in
Speaker 3: the in the third eye. This is like me staring
Speaker 3: into my my my eyes, your physical eyes, my physical eyelids.
Speaker 3: And sometimes there's things there are shapes and things that
Speaker 3: pop in and with my my intrigue, you know, when
Speaker 3: it comes to the subconscious and the symbols and different
Speaker 3: things that my subconscious may be trying to tell me
Speaker 3: that that's what I was looking for. I was looking
Speaker 3: for maybe some symbols or maybe and I just kept
Speaker 3: seeing like this, the circle, you know, that kept popping up,
Speaker 3: and it was it was almost like it had like
Speaker 3: little bits of detail somehow, not really super obviously, not
Speaker 3: super detailed, but just noticeable, you know. And and I
Speaker 3: don't know, that was the only thing that I really experienced,
Speaker 3: you know, But why why the circle? Why? You know,
Speaker 3: I have no idea. But then we're talking about orbs
Speaker 3: and we're talking about UFOs and we're talking so there's
Speaker 3: different things going on in the mind, I think. But
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's pretty much what I experienced. Man, Wow,
Speaker 3: too fantastical. I didn't get an awesome sunset or nothing,
Speaker 3: but still dude, was like, I felt good though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeh dude, what we need to do those more often?
Speaker 2: That was really good?
Speaker 3: Ilt it all the way to my fingertips, dude, you know,
Speaker 3: like all throughout.
Speaker 2: What a fire meditation shout out to them? Yeah, dude, honestly,
Speaker 2: it almost just reminded me of like an even more
Speaker 2: like a like a thousand times better version of Avatar,
Speaker 2: and Avatar is awesome, Like the visuals there are great,
Speaker 2: right and all in those movies. This was like that
Speaker 2: on ninety thousand steroids.
Speaker 3: It was just for Eco, right.
Speaker 2: It kind of reminded me of Yeah, And dude, I
Speaker 2: started to notice that, like as I was drifting deeper
Speaker 2: into that meditation that I almost felt like my energy
Speaker 2: body or whatever was trying to jump out.
Speaker 3: You were getting lighter, dude, you felt lighter.
Speaker 2: We need to mess with that a little bit more, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's next level.
Speaker 3: There was something I wanted to tell you that happened.
Speaker 3: Not wasn't this morning. I think it was yesterday morning.
Speaker 3: I will you know how you explained, Sometimes you'll wake
Speaker 3: up with a song in your head and and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I wish that would happen to me, that
Speaker 3: never really happens to me. And dude, yesterday morning, I
Speaker 3: woke up with this song. It was the one that goes,
Speaker 3: oh shit. It was in my head all day today.
Speaker 3: Now I can't fucking oh life could be a dream
Speaker 3: and that you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was in my head when I woke up, Like
Speaker 3: as soon as my eyes it was almost like I
Speaker 3: was hearing the song in my dream. Woke up and
Speaker 3: it was just in my head, and so, I don't know,
Speaker 3: it was pretty cool, pretty interesting, you know, coming off
Speaker 3: of the episode that we had just done and everything
Speaker 3: kind of being of you and what you perceive and
Speaker 3: just you know, I don't know, I just thought that
Speaker 3: was interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, that is awesome.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: It happened so often that I don't even like I'm
Speaker 2: almost like only subconsciously paying attention to it, you know that,
Speaker 2: Like it's playing in the background, but I'm not even
Speaker 2: almost consciously aware of it until I bring my conscious
Speaker 2: to it. It's like playing in the background every time
Speaker 2: I wake up.
Speaker 3: I feel like that there's there's something there that you
Speaker 3: could be utilizing, you know what I mean, Like if
Speaker 3: your subconscious mind is telling you something or hinting at
Speaker 3: something or noticed something that you didn't, which is what
Speaker 3: it's doing ultimately, you know, And so I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe pay attention to that. Maybe it's trying to let
Speaker 3: you know something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we've talked to people that said, you
Speaker 2: know what, you should go back and look at the
Speaker 2: lyrics and maybe there's something that sticks out, you know,
Speaker 2: in each one of those songs. Yeah, I need to
Speaker 2: start doing that because coming to the kind of understanding
Speaker 2: that we came to in the last episode, I almost
Speaker 2: need to look at that in a little bit different
Speaker 2: of a way, now, you know, because if that is,
Speaker 2: you know, let's just say, for a lack of a
Speaker 2: better term, the highest version of me that is sending
Speaker 2: me some kind of cryptic message of sorts'd be.
Speaker 5: Pretty cool to see what the hell that message is,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, the version of you that's counting all of
Speaker 3: your breaths, you know, that is observing all. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I feel like that version of you
Speaker 3: knows a little something and it's time to pay attention.
Speaker 3: You know. Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody else have any awesome meditations?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Nick? Nick. I thought Nick took off. Oh he didn't
Speaker 3: take off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: If I say something, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, what's your name by the way, it says iPhone.
Speaker 3: Oh well actually it's iPhone.
Speaker 7: Yeah. My name is Brian by the way, Brian. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's a pleasure to meet you both. So what I
Speaker 7: actually had was and I talked to him chat and
Speaker 7: it's awesome than a new guy but new kid and town.
Speaker 7: But with my meditation, what I had was absolutely amazing.
Speaker 6: It's similar to.
Speaker 7: What you said about the waterfalls. But what I saw
Speaker 7: was actually a unicorn that was mixed with a kind
Speaker 7: of like an alien princess in a way, if you
Speaker 7: get what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So you know how the guest was talking about.
Speaker 7: Alien princesses and that kind of stuff, but the princess
Speaker 7: was like Nordic in a way.
Speaker 6: So that's what I felt that it was.
Speaker 7: Actually it was like a waterfall with like flowing things,
Speaker 7: and there was a city behind it and it was
Speaker 7: like a Dark Tower city. I don't know if your
Speaker 7: guys are in the Stephen King novels or anything like that.
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan.
Speaker 7: I don't know. If you've read The Dark Tower, you
Speaker 7: should read it. Amazing novel, Yeah you should, great series,
Speaker 7: But what I saw was basically, all right, my guy
Speaker 7: a new friend there, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 7: But but pretty much what I experienced was that, and
Speaker 7: then also a factor of gold actually empowered us being
Speaker 7: personified towards Earth in a way. And you noticed I
Speaker 7: was talking about an Anaki with the guests because he
Speaker 7: was talking about aliens.
Speaker 3: And stuff like that.
Speaker 7: I believe with the whole thing that's going on with
Speaker 7: society and right now. And call me a tinpoile, that
Speaker 7: guy a conspiracy guy, but pretty much what I believe
Speaker 7: is it's a it's kind of like a cleaning of
Speaker 7: us in this meditation, the cleaning of the negative spirits
Speaker 7: that are actually around us and that are trying to
Speaker 7: harm us, but are trying to make us better. And
Speaker 7: that's why I think you guys saw the waterfall and
Speaker 7: the flowing waterfalls on that.
Speaker 6: That's just my opinion.
Speaker 3: I love it, and I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I feel like every time we meditate, there's a little
Speaker 3: bit of that going on, whether we know it or not,
Speaker 3: or whether we see it symbolically or whether we really
Speaker 3: feel it. I feel like that's always happening, you know
Speaker 3: at some level.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's it's beautiful as the first time with
Speaker 7: my third eye opened as.
Speaker 1: I say, you know, it's the Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, you had mentioned something about the gold, that is,
Speaker 2: what were you saying about that the gold is almost
Speaker 2: like powering the.
Speaker 6: Gold was actually yeah, it was like empowering.
Speaker 7: It was like flowing down and actually making us new
Speaker 7: in a way.
Speaker 5: Let me out here for a second.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me trip you out for a second, because
Speaker 2: there's something that I recently heard, you know how in
Speaker 2: uh what was it like?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Fuck?
Speaker 2: I think it's in rev Elation or something like that
Speaker 2: in the Bible where it talks about Ezekiel's wheel, which
Speaker 2: is essentially like the eyeball that's like, you know, it
Speaker 2: has a bunch of rings around it and maybe it's
Speaker 2: a bunch of eyeballs kind of thing. And somebody had
Speaker 2: mentioned because allegedly there's a video that somebody took with
Speaker 2: their telescope of that very thing and it looks every
Speaker 2: bit of a crazy and wild and almost scary. But
Speaker 2: then somebody mentioned, well, there actually is a hypothesis. I
Speaker 2: guess scientists came up with this idea that if you're
Speaker 2: trying to almost like protect your planet. You know, in
Speaker 2: the future, you're trying to protect your planet. You have
Speaker 2: some kind of thing that would be bringing power into it,
Speaker 2: maybe for a dying star. You know, if a planet
Speaker 2: is on its way out, then you're and you're trying
Speaker 2: to conserve it. Well, if you're technologically advanced enough, you
Speaker 2: would create what is called a Dyson sphere.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Dude, I maybe I looked it up before, but I
Speaker 2: was just holy shit. I mean that's kind of crazy looking.
Speaker 7: Right, I mean if you think about it, like with
Speaker 7: the are you talking about the angels with all eyes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I've seen that before myself in the Revelation books as well,
Speaker 7: because I've studied actually, you know, ancient religion and that
Speaker 7: kind of stuff, which I hope to see you guys again,
Speaker 7: and I'll talk more about that with you guys, you know,
Speaker 7: like after the guest of course, but with the ancient angels,
Speaker 7: like I feel that like we haven't discovered anything on
Speaker 7: like what the True Texts has been telling us as
Speaker 7: of recently. Because if you studying Enoch and all that stuff,
Speaker 7: That's why I was asking about some Nephelim and all
Speaker 7: that stuff, so that.
Speaker 6: Shit is real. That shit is real. Well, that shit happens.
Speaker 7: And thing is with the guests that I was talking about,
Speaker 7: you know, like with the ancient aliens. I mean, I'm
Speaker 7: sorry to interrupt, going.
Speaker 3: No, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but with the with the nephelm when he was
Speaker 7: why I asked about nephl is with the aliens that
Speaker 7: he was experienced with the the I guess the females
Speaker 7: that were trying to be with him. I mean it
Speaker 7: makes sense, right, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well in I got diddled by an alien one time.
Speaker 3: That was fun.
Speaker 2: M I was a little started, big spoon, but then
Speaker 2: she was like, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 3: I'll show you.
Speaker 6: Right, that's what d n T does, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was actually for Ago, well for Acho
Speaker 5: dm T. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm just due for a trip. But yeah, but honestly,
Speaker 2: this is a seraphim. I think it's called, right, Yeah, seraphim.
Speaker 7: That's what I was trying to ask about them. I
Speaker 7: don't know if you saw it in the comments. Yeah,
Speaker 7: with the surfer, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be like an eye with rings and
Speaker 2: then wings. Dude, you want to talk about one of
Speaker 2: the imagine looking at this while you're tripping.
Speaker 7: Balls O my god, Oh dude, I can imagine, Like
Speaker 7: what I saw on my first d MT trip was
Speaker 7: actually didn't in Huh, where you guys look at If
Speaker 7: you don't like what? Where did you try the GMT.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to tell you where you're located, but
Speaker 7: where we Where did you try the MT in the forest?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: I actually did it inside of an airbnb.
Speaker 7: Oh dude, you need to do anen force because if
Speaker 7: you do an in force you can see the moon,
Speaker 7: gods and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Oh well, actually, I mean I I went full on internal.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking out. I started out with my eyes open,
Speaker 2: and then our resonant shaman said close your eyes.
Speaker 5: You'll see a lot more.
Speaker 2: And so I closed my eyes and and and we
Speaker 2: I already kind of knew to do that anyway, just
Speaker 2: with all the different four Aco trips, because for Ego,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a great time with your eyes open.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, it's still a great time. But
Speaker 2: you close your eyes, dude, you are seeing something that
Speaker 2: your your mind breaks trying to comprehend what it is.
Speaker 7: Like with M It isn't possible to describe, but it
Speaker 7: doesn't break your mind, it actually mends it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the the the actual
Speaker 2: DMT that I did that one time. It was well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it mended my mind or just
Speaker 2: broke me, but.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, like, look at what you're doing right now, brother, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's been an absolute evolution of this show, like,
Speaker 2: and I attribute a lot of that to psychedelics. Honestly,
Speaker 2: like most of the stuff we look into, we're looking
Speaker 2: at it through the lens of our experiences with psychedelics.
Speaker 9: I've never done DMT. I've heard mix reactions and just
Speaker 9: hearing from you guys and other people, it's been uh
Speaker 9: like you literally mixed like fifty to fifty, you know.
Speaker 9: And I've done a lot of LSD and uh LSD.
Speaker 9: Every time i've done it, it's just been a farce,
Speaker 9: like a laugh. And shrooms are even better than that actually,
Speaker 9: so I wouldn't even recommend Yeah, shrooms are the ship, dude,
Speaker 9: I wouldn't even recommend LSD.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the yeah, shrims are the ship, you know what.
Speaker 6: Fucking Yeah.
Speaker 9: I smoke weed a lot too, the.
Speaker 2: Same here, but yeah, the mushrooms, I had really great
Speaker 2: experiences on mushrooms as well. I just can't stand that
Speaker 2: they last so damn long, dude. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: trip balls for eight hours, you know, yeah.
Speaker 9: Man, Yeah, you got to have a long weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I got I got dishes to wash
Speaker 5: and ship.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Do you work at fucking uh six? Uh? Seven? Man?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Ship?
Speaker 3: Six seven? Is that?
Speaker 2: I mean you've been hearing the six sevens.
Speaker 9: And I to five. It's a I work out a
Speaker 9: lot of hours, but here in Canada where it's torture, dude.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys have heard.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's comedy.
Speaker 3: Help us.
Speaker 5: I'll turn into comedies up there.
Speaker 3: But that mean somebody the conversion rate is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, DC. I have to ask, like, how do you
Speaker 6: on your meditation?
Speaker 1: Buddy?
Speaker 3: So which one? Specific?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: Sorry? What'd you say?
Speaker 6: What your your meditation? How did you feel?
Speaker 9: I felt kind of so I wasn't there for the
Speaker 9: whole thing, so I kept walking away. But I have
Speaker 9: like a short attention span, and that tends to happen.
Speaker 9: But the whole time I was there, it just every
Speaker 9: meditation I do it just I can't help. But the
Speaker 9: focus on like my family and stuff and like my
Speaker 9: friends around me and stuff less so like every meditation
Speaker 9: turns into what I actually know to be like a prayer,
Speaker 9: right like, and I can't help that. It's not like
Speaker 9: I'm trying to do that, but like, so one time
Speaker 9: I was hypnotized by this amateur hypnotist and he made
Speaker 9: me believe I had become a millionaire and or sorry
Speaker 9: multiple there was five of us. He he made us
Speaker 9: the group believe we became millionaires. And they were all
Speaker 9: like dancing and stuff, and I was panicking. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 9: where does money come from? Like this isn't my money,
Speaker 9: Like I was trying to ditch the money kind of thing.
Speaker 9: Like he was like, get this guy out of here.
Speaker 9: I'm like, did I do something wrong? Like you know,
Speaker 9: like that was my first experience with being hypnotized, and
Speaker 9: I guess I fucked up.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: He was like, yo, yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 2: It is a lot easier for people that that don't
Speaker 2: have any issue with meditating, and a lot of people
Speaker 2: they have a they have a real hard time of
Speaker 2: getting out of their own damn way and uh kind
Speaker 2: of associating themselves with their thoughts and you can get
Speaker 2: beyond that. You know, you don't have to be your thoughts,
Speaker 2: you can just observe it. And I was just thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, at a certain point, you know, I almost
Speaker 2: look at it like this.
Speaker 5: Now, it's like you're either the observer or the observed.
Speaker 2: And I think that if you're trying to get to
Speaker 2: that inner intellect or that inner higher power or whatever,
Speaker 2: and that you do get to within a meditation, if
Speaker 2: you get you know, pretty.
Speaker 5: Deep, you can be the observer. You know.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're just being observed and observed. You know, you
Speaker 2: might say, well, I'm being observed by God or I'm
Speaker 2: being observed by my ancient relatives or whatever, right, or aliens.
Speaker 3: If you're talking to our boy Rupert.
Speaker 2: But it's like, I think that what's really going on
Speaker 2: is that that there's both of those things are going
Speaker 2: on at the same time, and you can tap into
Speaker 2: either one of them.
Speaker 3: You know. It's good dude, Oh, he's definitely round.
Speaker 9: Also I'm the guy. Hey, yeah, Like I was talking
Speaker 9: to Ah like this is not recorded, right, I was
Speaker 9: talking to psychic sh like off air, like and how
Speaker 9: she was like hitting on shape with my family and
Speaker 9: stuff like I'm I'm DC Pilgrim, bro.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, awesome, No, it's really cool, Like it's crazy
Speaker 9: and I love that stuff. But like how I found
Speaker 9: you guys was not through wanting or like any kind
Speaker 9: of like ghostly encounter stuff like that. It was strictly
Speaker 9: through like weird lights in the sky and electro nick
Speaker 9: and literally it like brought me to you guys and stuff.
Speaker 9: So it's it's really cool, Like I really appreciate all
Speaker 9: that stuff too, and like that was that hit on
Speaker 9: some like real ship. And it sucks because I don't
Speaker 9: want to talk to her about it because like I
Speaker 9: moved away from all that, right.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, I don't actually live in Newfoundland anymore.
Speaker 3: And yeah, oh that's right. Yeah yeah I live in Ontario. No,
Speaker 3: not my choice.
Speaker 7: You know what you can do with DC with that
Speaker 7: is in my opinion because it's not recorded, and it's
Speaker 7: great and it's very champion that you actually like shared
Speaker 7: that with us.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have.
Speaker 7: I know, but I think you're actually a cool dude,
Speaker 7: and you know why you found these guys and us,
Speaker 7: It was serendipitous. It was not just because you had
Speaker 7: to pay somebody for it. It was because it was
Speaker 7: meant to happen.
Speaker 5: No, dude, have you ever seen that movie called Serendipity?
Speaker 3: I have not that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is an awesome movie. Yeah, it's just like
Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason. And dude, if you like
Speaker 2: that kind of shit. And it's an older movie. It's
Speaker 2: an old I think it came out like early two thousands,
Speaker 2: late nineties or something like that.
Speaker 6: It was like early two thousand.
Speaker 9: Buddy, I'm coming through on an old PC, like an
Speaker 9: old gaming computer, so I keep cutting out like.
Speaker 3: The whole time.
Speaker 9: I was like trying to be a part of this.
Speaker 9: I'm like flexing the whole time.
Speaker 3: Just ripped, dude.
Speaker 9: This is my whole workout.
Speaker 3: Is listening to you guys and be like, yeah, just
Speaker 3: Bruce Banner over there, dude, feels good.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think we'll wrap it up right there,
Speaker 2: and uh, thank you guys so much for joining us
Speaker 2: here tonight. It was a great time and very interesting.
Speaker 3: Guest. For sure.
Speaker 2: It's always fun getting the different perspectives like that, because
Speaker 2: I think that, honestly, dude, I think that everybody kind
Speaker 2: of lives in their own world. And I don't even
Speaker 2: mean that like in a discrediting type of way. I
Speaker 2: just think that we're all just having our own like
Speaker 2: trippy experience, and you know, all the world's eventually come together,
Speaker 2: and it's just fun hearing, you know, from other sides
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: It's fun, Yeah, dude. So yeah, we'll bust up out
Speaker 3: of here and we will see you guys on the
Speaker 3: flip side, I guess.