Speaker 1: Let's go. We're back with another episode of Conspiracy Chaos.
Speaker 1: My name is rg B.
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Speaker 2: Guys. We're going to be joined by the one and
Speaker 2: only Doc Brown Prometheus Lanes. Doc.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you jumping on and taking the time to hang
Speaker 1: out with the crew.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the inviot.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: I'm always looking to meet new people, have some more
Speaker 7: great conversations.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: That's why we do this, man.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it man.
Speaker 2: So for people who don't know, why do you tell
Speaker 2: listeners listeners a little bit about yourself and how you
Speaker 2: got into the conspiracy world.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, my name is Justin Brown. I kind of
Speaker 7: got the nickname Doc through this. I think it's a
Speaker 7: I tell people it's a oxy moron. I believe I'm
Speaker 7: a Southern man if you couldn't tell by the accent.
Speaker 7: But you know, we were infamous for our oxy morons.
Speaker 7: We'll take a seven foot tall guy and named him Tiny.
Speaker 7: So this big dumb redneck call him Doc. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. But I'm just a normal Joe man,
Speaker 7: nine to five knuckle dragger. My entire life grew up
Speaker 7: in the Bible Belt, was raised a you know, Christian
Speaker 7: in the Southern Baptist spears, and was always fascinated by
Speaker 7: the Bible in history. Those were my two fascinations. And
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, it's just two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 6: I think it was.
Speaker 7: I was just doom strolling one day and run across
Speaker 7: this guy named Tray Smith from God in a Nutshell,
Speaker 7: and he was talking about angels coming down, breading with
Speaker 7: the daughters of men and making nephelom giants and just
Speaker 7: all this weird, you know, fringy stuff, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: this dude's full shit. I've been to church my whole life.
Speaker 7: I know this book, well, he's just making stuff up.
Speaker 7: So then I got to looking through the Bible, man,
Speaker 7: and sure enough, all that stuff he was talking about
Speaker 7: was right there. It's just I relied too heavily on
Speaker 7: people telling me what was in there and didn't read
Speaker 7: it for myself, and it just kind of sparked off
Speaker 7: from there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: It was just the I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 7: the what was it the gateway drug?
Speaker 6: Some people say that. So giants was my gateway drug.
Speaker 7: And it kind of just spun me off into this
Speaker 7: this sphere man, And next thing, you know, I realized
Speaker 7: that you could have podcasts and talk to authors and
Speaker 7: researchers of all the stuff that I was reading and
Speaker 7: getting into. So it was a very selfish grab for
Speaker 7: myself and it just wound up being here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: So I've been doing this.
Speaker 7: I've been having conversations on internet since I think twenty two,
Speaker 7: but it was two years ago I started this show
Speaker 7: and kind of really you know, deep diving into this
Speaker 7: stuff and wrote my first book this year at the
Speaker 7: Epic of esau Verse right and seed War, and it's
Speaker 7: just a journey man we're all on this this hero's journey. Man,
Speaker 7: and mine's just like everybody else's. I'm figuring it out
Speaker 7: as I go.
Speaker 1: That's it, man, and it is. It's a it's a journey.
Speaker 2: But it's funny because the anaky and the Watchers, fallen angels,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to reference some of as. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of people start into into the conspiracy journey, especially
Speaker 2: from the Biblical side of things.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, yep, yep. Now I love compared to mythology.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm that type of person that when I see
Speaker 7: the same story throughout time, throughout culture, throughout the continents. Uh,
Speaker 7: it's just there has to be something to it. And
Speaker 7: I think it all stems from like an ancient source.
Speaker 7: So I love looking at all the ancient myths around
Speaker 7: the world and see how they all rhyme and match up.
Speaker 7: And uh. And some Christians are or I'm sorry, some
Speaker 7: non believers will we'll see these similar stories and used
Speaker 7: as ammunition to you know, try to debunk your your faith.
Speaker 7: But me, I'm just that person that it strengthens my
Speaker 7: faith personally, it reassures my.
Speaker 6: Faith, uh, because I tell people.
Speaker 7: Uh, the creator of the universe, Uh, for us to
Speaker 7: say that he remained silent to his creation and didn't
Speaker 7: speak to anybody except a small handful of people in
Speaker 7: the Levant, I think is pretty pompous. I think he
Speaker 7: showed himself and gave hints of himself throughout the world
Speaker 7: that way, you know, like preconditionings that way. When he
Speaker 7: did show up, everybody was familiar with the with the story.
Speaker 3: So I love that stuff, didn't they say in the Bible?
Speaker 3: Like you know, I grew up a Catholic, and I
Speaker 3: know in the Bible it says, you know, the water below,
Speaker 3: the water above, and the water below, and that there's
Speaker 3: a we're basically under a dome. I mean, what is
Speaker 3: your belief on the flat earth in that whole theory.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious with how you grew up as a Christian.
Speaker 7: Well, I grew up complete normy. You know, I didn't
Speaker 7: even know about the Genesis six fallen angels coming down
Speaker 7: and breeding with men. I was always taught that that
Speaker 7: was basically the good line of Seth were the sons
Speaker 7: of God, and they bred with the daughters of Cain,
Speaker 7: which were wicked, and that union made spiritually wicked people.
Speaker 6: So that's how Genesis six was explained to me.
Speaker 7: So I grew up real you know, quote unquote normy,
Speaker 7: real vanilla in my theology, but I got exposed to
Speaker 7: all this stuff though me personally, I think flat Earth
Speaker 7: they raised a lot of good, you know, questions and
Speaker 7: point to some things that are kind of ambiguous and
Speaker 7: don't really have a good answer for. But I'm just
Speaker 7: not sold on it yet. Yeah, but I tell people
Speaker 7: it is definitely a biblical theme. That is how they
Speaker 7: describe it in the Bible, and that's what they believed.
Speaker 7: And I just tell people that's because some people get
Speaker 7: really worked up and they're like, you're not a Christian
Speaker 7: if you don't believe in flat Earth because it says
Speaker 7: it the Bible and you're choosing a science book over
Speaker 7: your Bible. And I try to tell people I'm like
Speaker 7: me personally. I use the example of you as a
Speaker 7: kid asking your parents about where the babies come from.
Speaker 7: When you're a baby, you're not ready for that kind
Speaker 7: of information. So they tell you, oh, when a man
Speaker 7: loves a woman, they kiss, and a bump appears, or
Speaker 7: a stork drops it off at your door. You know,
Speaker 7: you get all these g rated stories that your little
Speaker 7: mind can understand, And I think God's the same way
Speaker 7: that he meets you where you're at.
Speaker 6: And those people that was their worldview.
Speaker 7: They thought it was flat and that you could sell
Speaker 7: off the end and fall off into the abyss. And
Speaker 7: he just kind of, you know, he just spoke to
Speaker 7: him in language in terms that they already understood, because
Speaker 7: our minds are so small we couldn't grasp.
Speaker 3: But anyway, Yeah, no, I mean, I think I think
Speaker 3: there could be a firmament of some sort, but I
Speaker 3: think it would be surrounding the whole earth type, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean in a way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I've even a canopy theory.
Speaker 7: If you've talked to or heard doctor Kent Hovin, he
Speaker 7: talks about it, and he thinks that it was once
Speaker 7: like a pressureized system and that when the windows of
Speaker 7: heaven burst forth, that that firmament broke and that water
Speaker 7: canopy broke, and that's where all that water comes from
Speaker 7: coming down.
Speaker 6: Then the water from the byst burst and forth.
Speaker 7: But the scientists have recreated what they thought would be
Speaker 7: the ideal conditions of that, and they pressureized like this
Speaker 7: aquarium and they put plants in it and lizards and
Speaker 7: all these different things and the research showed that the
Speaker 7: oxygen levels were highly concentrated and rich, and that the
Speaker 7: animals and plants inside that pressure eye system grew exponentially
Speaker 7: compared to their counterparts. It kind of goes with the
Speaker 7: Bible backing up. You know that there were giants on
Speaker 7: the Earth in those days, and that they lived almost
Speaker 7: a thousand years and all this kind of you know, Narnia,
Speaker 7: Lord of the Ring stuff, because this pressureized system sustained
Speaker 7: that kind of life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan of the theory. Like I
Speaker 2: always think, I don't necessarily if it's the firmament, but
Speaker 2: we're in Like I guess I always think of like
Speaker 2: an old school like hockey table, like an air hockey
Speaker 2: table with a little a little dome above it. I
Speaker 2: guess that's kind of how I picture it. But now
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think like outer space. I've seen some
Speaker 2: some theories, and outer space is just like outside of
Speaker 2: what we can't get to, Like we're in the inner
Speaker 2: circle and like there's no actual outer space, outer spaces
Speaker 2: out of the space we're not allowed to go.
Speaker 3: Basically, well, I mean I don't know if I mean,
Speaker 3: there's rovers on Mars and everything I know, supposedly, but like,
Speaker 3: I mean, it isn't like they're like the radiation belt,
Speaker 3: Like really when you when you try to go through
Speaker 3: that thing, like you basically anything explodes. They say, like
Speaker 3: what fan Van, That's what I'm talking about. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's really tough to actually get into outer space. All
Speaker 3: the pictures you see, they're actually like in our orbit,
Speaker 3: you know, the pictures you see from NASA. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, the firmament is is an interesting Uh
Speaker 3: is interesting to think about for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean everything does curve, right, like all the rockets curve.
Speaker 4: The rainbow curves.
Speaker 3: The rainbow is an interesting Yeah. When you look at
Speaker 3: a rainbow, it looks like it follows follows the dome
Speaker 3: like it really does. Like the reflection kind of uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: That was one of the interesting things that kind of
Speaker 7: got me, you know, wrist or scratching my head because
Speaker 7: they talk about how, uh, when light shines through a prism,
Speaker 7: that that light coming through takes on the shape of
Speaker 7: the of the prism that it is coming through. So
Speaker 7: they you know, they took like a like a domed
Speaker 7: you know, prism and shined a light through it. And
Speaker 7: sure enough it you know, the the light coming through
Speaker 7: was was arc like a rainbow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like the water too, like you ever
Speaker 3: see them do the experiment with like the cup of
Speaker 3: water and then like the light and then like the
Speaker 3: the glass which would be the dome, and they make
Speaker 3: they make the rain right exactly like the rainbow swirls,
Speaker 3: which I mean is actually like what they say is
Speaker 3: water is on the outside of the firmament. If that's
Speaker 3: what they say. Look up at the.
Speaker 2: Stars, the stars look like the blurry like looking at
Speaker 2: it the light, the swimming pool s thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be interesting if outer space is
Speaker 3: actually like more of a liquid.
Speaker 2: I mean at this point though, like you know, we
Speaker 2: know everything we've been taught and growing up, grow up
Speaker 2: to be taught as you know, ninety it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Mum hum, you want us to know unfortunately, waste our time?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: First, sure, what if the part where they say like
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the deep waters have been undiscovered, what
Speaker 4: if they're talking about space?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I mean isn't that didn't we go didn't
Speaker 3: we say that before, like a long time ago, that
Speaker 3: NASA when they first started they were they were researching
Speaker 3: with the water. Yeah, right, and then they.
Speaker 1: To the sixties.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've seen a real uh oh here. It's
Speaker 7: it's been within the last year. But it was pretty
Speaker 7: funny and it made you think. But it showed these
Speaker 7: two guys like they're stoned and they're kind of, you know,
Speaker 7: philosophizing back and forth, you know, trying to have these
Speaker 7: deep conversations. And then I don't know how they got there,
Speaker 7: but they got on the subject of fish and they
Speaker 7: were talking about the fish and how you know, their
Speaker 7: ecosystem is made just for them. And he's like, well, man,
Speaker 7: do you think that the fish can see the water?
Speaker 7: And the other guy's like, no, probably not, you know,
Speaker 7: and all this kind of stuff. And he's like, well,
Speaker 7: you know, the Bible talks about a firmament and that
Speaker 7: you know, there was water above, and you know, he's like,
Speaker 7: what if we are just like the fish and we
Speaker 7: are in water, but we just don't see the water,
Speaker 7: and then up above is God or another race looking
Speaker 7: in our pond, asking if we see the water too.
Speaker 3: Right, No, I mean if you think about it too,
Speaker 3: and they're I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it's just like abducted right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an interesting theory.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to ask Travis Walton how he
Speaker 2: felt when you got snatched up. So, doc, Man, what
Speaker 2: made what inspired you to start writing the book?
Speaker 6: Honestly it was I had mentioned Tray Smith.
Speaker 7: He was the guy that kind of red peeled me,
Speaker 7: and I was fortunate enough to have him on my
Speaker 7: show and we were talking and hanging out, and he
Speaker 7: had mentioned, oh, well, you're from East Tennessee, that's bigfoot country.
Speaker 7: You know, next time I'm up that way, we'll go
Speaker 7: on a bigfoot hunt. And I was aware of bigfoot.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a big thing here in East Tennessee
Speaker 7: and the Appalachis. You know, every gas station, every country
Speaker 7: store has bigfoot t shirts and stickers and all that
Speaker 7: kind of stuff. But I was never what you would
Speaker 7: call a bigfoot enthusiast at all. I hadn't watched any documentaries,
Speaker 7: I hadn't listened to any podcasts on it. I just
Speaker 7: kind of knew the general view. And while we were talking, man,
Speaker 7: just out of nowhere, Genesis twenty five, twenty five popped
Speaker 7: into my head. And for those it's not familiar, it
Speaker 7: just says the first one came out red, covered in
Speaker 7: hair from head to toe like a Harry cloak.
Speaker 6: And I was like, Damn, that sounds pretty squatchy to me.
Speaker 3: That sounds like bigfoot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if we just let it say what it says,
Speaker 7: you know, he was covered in hair from head to
Speaker 7: toe like a cloak, and it was red hair. I mean,
Speaker 7: if we took that descriptor and told somebody we saw
Speaker 7: this out in the woods without hesitation, everybody'd say, you've
Speaker 7: seen a bigfoot or a sasquatch.
Speaker 6: So I asked Trey. I was like, Trey, what do
Speaker 6: you think.
Speaker 7: About Esau from the Bible? And he kind of looked confused,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, well, we're talking about Bigfoot. It says
Speaker 7: that he come out red, you know, covered in hair.
Speaker 7: Do you think maybe he might have been the first
Speaker 7: documented bigfoot anyway? And he kind of laughed and he's like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, he said, but he would definitely was
Speaker 7: a Harry. Dude, you might be onto something. And it
Speaker 7: was the next week I had Gary Wayne on and
Speaker 7: we were talking about the epic of Gilgamesh and I
Speaker 7: bumped into this guy named Inky Doo described just like Esau,
Speaker 7: covered in hair from head to.
Speaker 6: Toe, and he was known as a wild man.
Speaker 7: Just like Esau a Mighty. And I'm like, here's another
Speaker 7: freaking bigfoot in an ancient text, you know, And just
Speaker 7: one thing led to the other, and I just kept
Speaker 7: finding them, and so I was like, man, I got
Speaker 7: to search this thing out. So then that just sent
Speaker 7: me on almost two year deep guy reading all the
Speaker 7: extra biblical sources I could get my hands on. Lewis
Speaker 7: Ginsburg Legends of the Jews. That's a six book series
Speaker 7: that he went through and collected all of their legends,
Speaker 7: all their lore and mythology, and just combined them all
Speaker 7: into these six books. And I went through and read
Speaker 7: those two and honestly, I just kept finding pieces of
Speaker 7: this guy's story. The Bible just gives you a little
Speaker 7: blurb about him, but these other texts, man, they feel
Speaker 7: in the rest of the story. So it's kind of
Speaker 7: like somebody busted his story up and scattered it in
Speaker 7: all these other books. So it just kind of sent
Speaker 7: me on a treasure hunt trying to find and gather
Speaker 7: all the pieces.
Speaker 1: Man, Like they didn't want it to be told, honestly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Because even like when you get into the Bible,
Speaker 7: like where it talks about the Amalekites, and I can't
Speaker 7: remember the other race.
Speaker 6: But you know they say God says.
Speaker 7: That he will blot out their memory. You know, he
Speaker 7: don't want Tom remember, and he was going to, you know,
Speaker 7: try to blot their names out of the genealogies and
Speaker 7: the history books and things like that. And I think
Speaker 7: that's kind of what they did with this guy. And
Speaker 7: they left him really ambiguous because a lot of the
Speaker 7: ancient texts say he was a serpent seed. And when
Speaker 7: you read his story, there's a lot of things in
Speaker 7: there that don't make sense, like for me, the trading
Speaker 7: of the birthright. That's that famous story where he you know,
Speaker 7: he's the eldest son, he's supposed to inherit everything, but
Speaker 7: one day he says, he just comes in from the
Speaker 7: field exhausted and trades his birthright to his brother for
Speaker 7: a bowl of soup. But then when he trades it,
Speaker 7: he makes like this little caddy comment that's honestly just
Speaker 7: out of left field. Never made sense to me. And
Speaker 7: he says, what use is a birthright to me? When
Speaker 7: I am dead?
Speaker 6: Take it? And I'm like, well, that's pretty melodramatic for
Speaker 6: number one. If I was you.
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's firstborn son, and I'm about to inherit the
Speaker 7: millions of dollar billions of dollars and all the real
Speaker 7: estate and everything else. And I come in from trading
Speaker 7: stocks all day and I see my little brother sitting
Speaker 7: on a couch eating a bag of Doritos, and I'm like, hey, r,
Speaker 7: I'm hungry. Could I get some chips from you? And
Speaker 7: He's like, yeah, sure, sign over the company and everything you're.
Speaker 6: Going to inherit.
Speaker 7: And then I'm like, ay, sure, what uses all that
Speaker 7: stuff to me when I'm dead? Give me those gridos? Hell,
Speaker 7: no nobody ever do that. But all them stories though,
Speaker 7: when you give to reading these other books, they feel
Speaker 7: in the dots and it makes perfect sense, honestly.
Speaker 6: And then so to me.
Speaker 7: I tell people, I think these extra biblical books and
Speaker 7: scrolls and legends and things are extremely important because back
Speaker 7: then this is an ancient text. These ancient people were
Speaker 7: well aware of these other stories and legends and lore.
Speaker 7: So when they were writing this book, I think they
Speaker 7: just kind of hit the high notes because they didn't
Speaker 7: want to theoretically beat a dead horse. They were like, oh, hell,
Speaker 7: everybody knows about Esau because we got the Book of
Speaker 7: jash Or, we got this, this, and this. We don't
Speaker 7: need to rehash that. But you know, because they weren't
Speaker 7: thinking of us thousands of years later that some of
Speaker 7: these books and legends and stuff would be taken away
Speaker 7: from us.
Speaker 3: It was the one go ahead, right. Sorry.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, why do you think they
Speaker 2: framed them as like a villain though? Did they like
Speaker 2: frame them as like the bad guy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And I think that's what it is, because like when
Speaker 7: you get into those other books they come out which
Speaker 7: the Bible paints him as a bad guy, but then
Speaker 7: when you get into the other extra Biblical books and
Speaker 7: things like that, they also paint him as a bad guy,
Speaker 7: but they go a step further and say that he
Speaker 7: was of the devil, he was a serpent seed, and
Speaker 7: even the Bible even hints at that. You know, once
Speaker 7: I seen it, you know, it's kind of I tell
Speaker 7: people's kind of like that red Honda Civic. You never
Speaker 7: see the red Honda Civic till you buy the red
Speaker 7: on the SI then you see them everywhere. But in
Speaker 7: that story, if you guys, remember the Curse of the Garden. Okay,
Speaker 7: and back then these were scrolls, they didn't have chapters
Speaker 7: and all this kind of stuff. It was just one document.
Speaker 7: So in Genesis three point fifteen, that's the curse of
Speaker 7: Adam and even this serpent, and what does he say.
Speaker 7: He says, I will put enmity between her seed and
Speaker 7: thy seed, talking to the serpent, so it's saying outright,
Speaker 7: he's going to have a seed and she's going to
Speaker 7: have one, and they're going to be at war enmity
Speaker 7: with one another. And he says one will bruise one's head,
Speaker 7: but the other will bruise the other's heel. And so,
Speaker 7: like I said, there was no chapters. This is just
Speaker 7: a scroll. So you get just a couple verses down.
Speaker 7: That's where you get Genesis twenty five, twenty five in
Speaker 7: the Birth of Esau, and the angel goes to Rebecca
Speaker 7: and warns her. And what does he say. He says,
Speaker 7: two nations, two peoples are in your womb, and they
Speaker 7: battle together. There's enmity between the two. And he says,
Speaker 7: and then when he's born, first one come out red,
Speaker 7: covered in hair from head to toe. He comes out
Speaker 7: looking just like a fertility god. Of all the ancient
Speaker 7: beliefs in world systems that all the fertility gods were
Speaker 7: Harry Wildman, and so he comes out looking like this
Speaker 7: fertility god. That's strange, but he's a part of a
Speaker 7: set of twins. So his foot had to push on
Speaker 7: Jacob's head, bruising the head to exit the womb. And
Speaker 7: then it gives you this little detail. It says Jacob
Speaker 7: is clutching the hill, bruising the hill of Esau. So
Speaker 7: this is a polaroid picture of Genesis three point fifteen,
Speaker 7: and it would not have been lost on the ancient
Speaker 7: readers of the time.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, what are your thoughts on the Book of Enoch?
Speaker 3: I mean, going along with the stories of you know,
Speaker 3: the off of the Bible. You know, you know it was.
Speaker 7: To now me, I think the first book, the Book
Speaker 7: of the Watchers. I think it's legit. And even if
Speaker 7: you know they determine, oh it's only dated to this
Speaker 7: certain date. Well, that doesn't mean that that's the first
Speaker 7: writing or that was the first copy, you know. I
Speaker 7: think they had a scroll of Enochs circulating during the time.
Speaker 7: But even if they didn't, in the very least, I
Speaker 7: think this was a well established oral tradition that everybody
Speaker 7: was aware of. Because it does it goes perfectly in
Speaker 7: line with the Genesis six narrative and fills in all
Speaker 7: the gaps. And I think that's why once again in
Speaker 7: Genesis six, you just get this little burb and it says,
Speaker 7: uh uh the sons of God uh saw the dollars
Speaker 7: of men were fired and came down and took them
Speaker 7: wives and bred with them and made the Nephelom giants.
Speaker 7: And then they just move on and us we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 7: slow down, let's reverse this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: I want more details on this event. That seems like
Speaker 7: a pretty big deal. But like I said earlier, this
Speaker 7: was they already had scrolls circulating, They already had oral
Speaker 7: traditions and legends circulating. Everybody knew during that time. So
Speaker 7: that's why they was just so you know, brief with it,
Speaker 7: I believe.
Speaker 3: Uh. Because the.
Speaker 2: Ship that's a fun that's a fun one always to
Speaker 2: go down with the watchers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was the I guess we got in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Uh went real deep with the Yeah,
Speaker 3: my sir knows, but yeah, he blew my mind with
Speaker 3: the Aki really did.
Speaker 7: Yeah to me when I read that, I've had a
Speaker 7: lot of people tell me, you know, they throw that
Speaker 7: up and they're like, oh, well, that, you know, is
Speaker 7: very similar to the account in Genesis, and it's older,
Speaker 7: so therefore it's a copy that shows you that the
Speaker 7: Bible's fake. They stole from the Sumerians and reappropriated this story,
Speaker 7: so that shows you that your Bible is fake and
Speaker 7: no good. And then I try to tell people, I'm like,
Speaker 7: we'll hold up if you take the biblical narrative. It
Speaker 7: says that the sons of God came down brave with
Speaker 7: the dollars of men, and that for their rebellion, it
Speaker 7: says that God cast them out of heaven, and the
Speaker 7: Book of Jude even says, you know, they traded their
Speaker 7: first estate, you know, to come down here. And so
Speaker 7: I tell people, if we follow the biblical timeline, it
Speaker 7: says that they were kicked out of heaven and they
Speaker 7: were here first, and they gave them all the secrets
Speaker 7: of heaven, all the forbidden knowledge, and that they were
Speaker 7: worshiped as gods. And once it got so corrupted, that's
Speaker 7: when the flood came and the great reset came. So
Speaker 7: I tell them, I'm like, well, yeah, of course you're
Speaker 7: going to get the story of the Anunaki first, and
Speaker 7: they're going to paint these people that came from the
Speaker 7: heavens and gave all these gifts to humanity and done
Speaker 7: all this kind of stuff and paint them in such
Speaker 7: a good light because it's coming from them. Of course,
Speaker 7: they're going to spin themselves favorably, And of course you're
Speaker 7: going to get their story first because they were here first.
Speaker 7: Just because it's the first doesn't make it the truth.
Speaker 3: All right, story they want you to hear.
Speaker 5: Deception is always the play.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you always get two to three truths wrapped
Speaker 7: around a big fat lie to soften you up right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, just an everything, yeah, just everything
Speaker 2: you said, Just say, great reset. Do you think that
Speaker 2: we're eventually going to see a great reset with like
Speaker 2: a Project Bluebeam type scenario?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: I mean it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: The Bible talks about the He's going to return and
Speaker 7: judge the world with fire, and I tell people, and
Speaker 7: this is something that gets me in trouble sometimes because
Speaker 7: I get called a heretic and all this other kind
Speaker 7: of stuff. But I'm like, I think the Bible is important,
Speaker 7: but I don't worship a Bible. I think a lot
Speaker 7: of Christians today venerate and worship this book.
Speaker 6: And if the if the historical.
Speaker 7: Event or whatever is not in the Bible, then it's
Speaker 7: a lie. It's not true. And I'm not like that.
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, there's plenty of things that happened
Speaker 7: in ancient history that we know happened from archaeology and
Speaker 7: everything else, but the Bible doesn't even talk about it,
Speaker 7: you know. So, I mean, everything is not in this book.
Speaker 7: And we hear about to reset possibly three if you
Speaker 7: believe in a gap theory, but you have you know,
Speaker 7: judgment of water, and then it says the last is
Speaker 7: going to be with fire. So we only hear about
Speaker 7: two to three you know, resets. But when you go
Speaker 7: around to other countries and their mythology, like I said,
Speaker 7: I love looking at that stuff and seeing what rhymes,
Speaker 7: almost all of them talk about these multiple resets, you know.
Speaker 7: The Hindus they say we're in the fourth or fifth
Speaker 7: world and that the first few judgments was water, but
Speaker 7: the end is going to be with fire. You go
Speaker 7: down to de Maayas in South America, they say the
Speaker 7: same thing, we're in the fourth or fifth reset. The
Speaker 7: first few was water, but the last is going to
Speaker 7: be with fire, So I think there was you know,
Speaker 7: multiple resets, and this Earth is a lot older than
Speaker 7: a lot of you know, young Earth creationists want to
Speaker 7: say it's I think it's a lot older than ten,
Speaker 7: you know, the twelve thousand years old.
Speaker 6: I think it's a lot older.
Speaker 2: They also say, yeah, because there's a theory that we
Speaker 2: skipped a few thousand years in our timeline as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Little Season and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just we just got out of the Little season,
Speaker 2: twenty six out of the Little Season.
Speaker 1: And when they hear of the horse or something.
Speaker 6: M yeah, I'm not real familiar with that.
Speaker 7: I've got the thirty thousand foot view and I've had
Speaker 7: a couple of people on and talk about that too.
Speaker 6: I see that.
Speaker 7: Kind of like the flat Earth. I think they raised
Speaker 7: some you know, good questions and point to some really
Speaker 7: interesting things. But I'm just not personally there yet. But
Speaker 7: I love hearing about it. I love looking at it
Speaker 7: and talking about it, but just not there yet personally.
Speaker 3: I'm where you are with the flat Earth. Man, I'm
Speaker 3: not sold on it, but I'll tell you what, I
Speaker 3: love listening to it, and that they go deep. They
Speaker 3: they are passionate about it. The flat earths.
Speaker 2: They really are the ones who are all in, are
Speaker 2: all in the steading hill proudly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, the one thing that kind of held me from
Speaker 7: it though, honestly, the big thing was have you guys.
Speaker 6: Heard of doctor Walt Brown?
Speaker 1: Not sure?
Speaker 7: Yeah, he worked for NASA. He was an engineer, I think,
Speaker 7: but he was a Christian and he done a lot
Speaker 7: of research and wrote a book and I actually have
Speaker 7: a signed copy of his book over here, but it
Speaker 7: was called in the Beginning, and he has this theory
Speaker 7: that he calls hydro plate theory. Excuse me, and to me,
Speaker 7: that made so much sense, and it ties in everything
Speaker 7: with the biblical narrative, the fossil record, just so many things,
Speaker 7: and it makes perfect sense to me. But if we
Speaker 7: are on a flat stationery, you know, plane like, they
Speaker 7: say that theory would not work. And to me that
Speaker 7: that is the skeleton, key theory that answers everything, like
Speaker 7: for instance, the oceanic ridges. You know, if you look
Speaker 7: at those, these are fractures scar lines that run around
Speaker 7: the globe like a seam of a baseball.
Speaker 6: And if you take the theory.
Speaker 7: That you know it was once Pangaea, you know, just
Speaker 7: one big super continent and then this great cataclysm happened
Speaker 7: and it kind of pushed him apart, you know, and
Speaker 7: that's kind of what he believed in. But he talked
Speaker 7: about these oceanic ridges and he says, if you look
Speaker 7: at them, they run almost perfect with the outlines of
Speaker 7: the continents, and then every single major mountain range in
Speaker 7: the world, there's no exception. Everyone lines up perfectly parallel
Speaker 7: with these oceanic ridges. So he's saying that's whether it
Speaker 7: was an earthquake, a comet, something happened to trigger this
Speaker 7: global cataclysm. And he says that's the tectonic plates underneath
Speaker 7: had a fracture point, and that's where you get these
Speaker 7: oceanic ridges. And he says that it just started pushing
Speaker 7: them apart. And he said, just like a car when
Speaker 7: you hit a wall, he said, the hood rolls up right,
Speaker 7: and he said, that's what happens.
Speaker 6: He said with the major mountain rages.
Speaker 7: He said, you had this fracture point, the oceanic ridges,
Speaker 7: and it was pushing them out, and all this water
Speaker 7: from the abyss was shooting forth, flooding from underneath and
Speaker 7: on top, and he said it met resistance and when
Speaker 7: it did, it buckled, and it pushed up the mountains
Speaker 7: and that's why they line up so perfectly with that ridge.
Speaker 7: And he said, all the plates move. And at the
Speaker 7: same time, it caused earthquakes. It costs soon armies.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: It caused all the volcanoes to erupt, he said, in
Speaker 7: all the soud and ash went up into the atmosphere
Speaker 7: and darkened the sun and lowered the temperatures on Earth.
Speaker 7: And that's why we have the ice age. It brought
Speaker 7: the first ice age, and possible you know, polar shift.
Speaker 7: Just all these things and I'm doing it poor justice.
Speaker 7: But he goes into great detail and talks about all
Speaker 7: that stuff. But his theory, man, it answers so many
Speaker 7: questions so perfectly in my opinion, But it only works
Speaker 7: on a globe. It doesn't work on a flat earth model.
Speaker 7: So that was my kind of thing that kept me
Speaker 7: from diving into the deep end of the pool with it.
Speaker 3: Well, what gets me is don't people sell I know not,
Speaker 3: I know, not north to south because that would be
Speaker 3: tough to do, But don't people sell across the globe
Speaker 3: from like California to China to like however it however
Speaker 3: it would go. I think people have sailed the whole globe,
Speaker 3: I believe. So if that's the case, then kind of.
Speaker 7: And there's a race. I don't know how often they
Speaker 7: do it, but yes, it goes around Antarctica. So a
Speaker 7: lot of people talk about how you know it's shut off,
Speaker 7: you can't go there, and it's actual ice rim wall,
Speaker 7: but it's a continent in the center that these people
Speaker 7: in these boats race around.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, yeah, I mean that's I heard about that
Speaker 3: race around the around Antarctica. But they try saying it's
Speaker 3: only flat Earth or I heard a flat Earth, or
Speaker 3: tried debunking that theory, saying it was only a part
Speaker 3: of Antarctica they race around. It's only like a piece
Speaker 3: of one of the islands, it's not the whole whole continent.
Speaker 3: So they try saying that, but yeah, I heard about
Speaker 3: the same race.
Speaker 7: On The thing is do they keep adjusting to their
Speaker 7: their theology and standpoints as things get proven wrong. It's
Speaker 7: like the goalpost keeps moving. Yeah, it's like they kept saying, oh, well, no,
Speaker 7: if they allow us up there, we would see that
Speaker 7: there is no twenty four hour sun, and that would
Speaker 7: totally bust the globe model.
Speaker 6: And it was just past.
Speaker 2: What year.
Speaker 6: Up there?
Speaker 7: And yeah shows it perfectly twenty four hours. And so
Speaker 7: then they start changing their stance. Oh well, there's many models.
Speaker 7: Our model is right, that other one was wrong, and
Speaker 7: our model there is a twenty four hour son right.
Speaker 3: Like we said, they're passionate, man, they're passionate.
Speaker 1: Well, it says here I'm reading when hydro plate the theory.
Speaker 2: I didn't know much about it, so I'm kind of
Speaker 2: looking up that there's water underground water chambers that might
Speaker 2: make sense a little bit to what we just recently
Speaker 2: had Matt Lane and Christine GILBERTI and talking about the
Speaker 2: Fountain Youth and the natural fresh the hydrogen hydrogen water
Speaker 2: they found. That could be a little possibility they might
Speaker 2: have popped into one of those chambers.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean because we dig today, you know,
Speaker 7: and dig whales, and we get water, you know, from
Speaker 7: underneath the earth all the time.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense.
Speaker 5: Okay, what was there over fifteen hundred feet?
Speaker 1: All right, so I'll want to say, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was dug by a free mason. Yeah, free
Speaker 3: Mason down down. You guys are down here.
Speaker 4: We're going to go take a trip down to Sarasota
Speaker 4: and check it out and see.
Speaker 3: If get some of that super water and get some
Speaker 3: of this water. Yeah, I'll try.
Speaker 7: Hey, there's some healing water in Tennessee. I don't know
Speaker 7: how far you guys are away, but it's kind of
Speaker 7: like a local thing.
Speaker 6: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 7: Uh what is the name of it. I could look
Speaker 7: it up and probably tell you, but it was.
Speaker 5: My girl the city, so she'll definitely go and check
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It's just a little town outside of Morristown. And they
Speaker 7: Houston Houston Minerals, that's what's called.
Speaker 6: And uh, the.
Speaker 7: Story goes is that this old man, mister Houston, was
Speaker 7: having like kidney problems and he was going to the
Speaker 7: doctor and they done all kinds of stuff for him.
Speaker 7: This is you know, back in the day, and they
Speaker 7: couldn't do nothing for him. They just said, you know,
Speaker 7: you're just going to live with it till it kills you. Well,
Speaker 7: there's nothing we could do. And he was a Christian
Speaker 7: man and he prayed to God, you know, for some
Speaker 7: healing and direction, and he says that he got a vision,
Speaker 7: a dream that an angel came to him, pulled him
Speaker 7: out of bed and took him out in his backyard
Speaker 7: out in his property and took him to this spot
Speaker 7: and said, uh, drill here, and don't quote me on
Speaker 7: the footage, but they said they give him a specific number,
Speaker 7: you know, they said, drill, you know, two thousand some
Speaker 7: odd foot and you'll hit water and there will be
Speaker 7: your uh.
Speaker 6: Your healing. Drink the water and you'll be healed.
Speaker 7: And so he go out and finds the spot that
Speaker 7: he had to dream about, calls some.
Speaker 6: Well diggers over.
Speaker 7: They dig the well and they ended up drilling like
Speaker 7: short of what the angel told and they hit water.
Speaker 6: Like, okay, we hit water, We're good.
Speaker 7: Let's start setting up the pumps and everything. He said, no,
Speaker 7: go down to this certain you know footage, and they did.
Speaker 7: They kept going well. Then they hit another well, another
Speaker 7: pocket of water, and that was the one that the
Speaker 7: angel told him about, and he started drinking the water
Speaker 7: and went for a checkup. Like a year later, he
Speaker 7: was completely healed of his ailments. And so he had
Speaker 7: the water scent and tested. It was rich in all
Speaker 7: these different minerals, and it was advertised everywhere as this,
Speaker 7: you know, wholly blessed by an angel water and he was.
Speaker 6: Charging people.
Speaker 7: I can't remember it was like five cents a gallon
Speaker 7: or something like that, and everybody came from everywhere to
Speaker 7: get this water, and he was actually shipping it across
Speaker 7: the United States, and then the FDA or whoever came
Speaker 7: in and told them, you know, you can't be selling
Speaker 7: miracle elixirs and stuff.
Speaker 6: That's illegal. So they had to stop that.
Speaker 7: But it's still open to this day, and it's on
Speaker 7: an honor system, and I think it's a quarter or
Speaker 7: fifty cents. It's something ridiculously cheap for a gallon, and
Speaker 7: it's an honor system. They just have a box and
Speaker 7: you walk up and drop your money into the box
Speaker 7: and go fill up your water jugs.
Speaker 6: And every time I've ever been there.
Speaker 7: Man, it's always a huge line, everybody stocking up on
Speaker 7: it and stuff. But they had some modern tests done
Speaker 7: on it, and it is it's like so rich and
Speaker 7: so many nutrients and stuff like that, and they said
Speaker 7: that some of the stuff in there was really good
Speaker 7: at busting up kidney stones and things like that, and
Speaker 7: that's what healed mister Houston.
Speaker 3: So Roger, you know that Saratoga Springs like the spring
Speaker 3: water and that the racetrack. Do you ever try that
Speaker 3: water that's supposed to be healing water as well. But
Speaker 3: I cannot drink that because it's a is it sulfurry?
Speaker 3: Is something something that's there's something that it like. It
Speaker 3: literally tastes like fucking rotten eggs. It's disgusting. But they
Speaker 3: say it's like they say, and it's got like almost
Speaker 3: like a fizz to it. It's not a fizz, but
Speaker 3: it's terrible. Sarahtoga Springs it's famous. No, it's it's right,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the bottled Sarahtoga
Speaker 3: water that I'm talking about at the racetrack. There's actually
Speaker 3: a you could it's been there forever. My dad always
Speaker 3: takes me over there. He's like, come take a sip.
Speaker 3: But man, it cleans you out. You fucking ship like
Speaker 3: a horse tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm like a bunch of.
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's it's it's Scotch just so much.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a super super, super healing water.
Speaker 3: It's world famous. You can look it up. That's where
Speaker 3: they got the name Saratoga Springs. Was that that spring? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: but I can't drink it as tough to get down.
Speaker 3: Is is that water like like I actually just like
Speaker 3: regular water, or does it have like a different taste to.
Speaker 6: It now it's clear water.
Speaker 7: But honestly, guys, I thought everybody was full of shit,
Speaker 7: you know, and I heard about it. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: I think that far away from me, I'll go just
Speaker 7: to try it and check it out. And honestly, dude,
Speaker 7: it's the only water I've ever drank in my life
Speaker 7: that didn't have a taste.
Speaker 6: I can't describe it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Most of the time there's an after taste or something
Speaker 7: in the palad of your mouth. This was tasteless, completely tasteless.
Speaker 3: Well, the way they were describing the water down in Florida,
Speaker 3: it was just like air, like they said, it just
Speaker 3: went down like air in your mouth. They said it
Speaker 3: was just like there was probably it tastes like it
Speaker 3: was probably very similar to what you're describing, just like
Speaker 3: the cleanest, cleanest tasting water that you'll ever get. But
Speaker 3: the government shut them down. They wouldn't that whole story
Speaker 3: as wild her husband.
Speaker 5: They threw her husband in jail.
Speaker 4: He went and saw the commissioners and the governor and
Speaker 4: all them and told him that he was an engineer
Speaker 4: and he could supply the entire state of Florida with
Speaker 4: free water.
Speaker 5: And he's been in jail for like seven to fifteen
Speaker 5: years now.
Speaker 3: No, he's captain sat for fifteen years. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: crazy it's a wild story man.
Speaker 4: Trying to get him out. But she invited us down there,
Speaker 4: so we'll let you know when.
Speaker 3: I want to try that water. I was saying, I'm
Speaker 3: all about it.
Speaker 6: They might be part of Bob a Vega's prophecies. One
Speaker 6: of the.
Speaker 7: Prophecies she gave, she said twenty twenty six, there's a
Speaker 7: lot of stuff will be popping off according to her.
Speaker 7: But one of the things she said that I thought
Speaker 7: was interesting was there would be a new clean energy
Speaker 7: source discovered in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: That would make sense if because what the World Health
Speaker 4: Organization or the is it them or the w World
Speaker 4: Economic Forum wants to buy the rights of water. That's
Speaker 4: like one of the things they want to do by
Speaker 4: like twenty thirty is they want to buy the.
Speaker 5: Rights to the water, so we can't so we can't have.
Speaker 3: It or we have to pay top dollar for it.
Speaker 4: If she's right, Yeah, if she If she is right,
Speaker 4: and water becomes very valuable and becomes a new source
Speaker 4: that would make sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the water powered.
Speaker 7: Cars, that would be the new gas that they could
Speaker 7: make money off of.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine. Yeah, they're gonna they have to come out.
Speaker 4: BW just made a hydrogen motor. I'm pretty sure it's BMW.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say they have to adventure.
Speaker 5: Yeah for a while that haven't been approved.
Speaker 7: But you don't have to have a water boy endorsement.
Speaker 7: I could commercial with him.
Speaker 6: Had some high quality. Yeah, yeah, it really, but.
Speaker 5: They don't want to.
Speaker 4: They don't want hydrogen engine though, because you would never
Speaker 4: have to fill it up. I don't think would you
Speaker 4: are just filling up with water. But I mean it
Speaker 4: costs a lot of people money with a hydrogen motor.
Speaker 4: Venezuela pointless if we had hydrogen motors.
Speaker 3: Right, mhm man.
Speaker 2: So do you plan on doing since you since you
Speaker 2: finished your first book, do you have a second book
Speaker 2: in your in your future? Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got to in my head that I want
Speaker 7: to write uh, and I got the time to do
Speaker 7: it now, so it's just a matter of when.
Speaker 6: But I would like to write a book on.
Speaker 7: Just the serpent seed, because that's something that I really
Speaker 7: focused in on with this other book, which this was
Speaker 7: a fifteen chapter book, but I only one chapter got
Speaker 7: into Serpent Seed, but that is a very deep well
Speaker 7: and I was thinking about writing a book on that
Speaker 7: and going back to the garden with the trees, so I,
Speaker 7: you know, thinking about maybe entitling it the story of
Speaker 7: the two trees, you know, and garden and the two
Speaker 7: seed lines and another one that I was thinking about.
Speaker 7: I actually had a listener of the show listened to
Speaker 7: one of the episodes I did on like astro theology
Speaker 7: and as above so below mirror images that you find
Speaker 7: in scripture, and I did like an hour hour and
Speaker 7: a half episode on that, and somebody had mentioned.
Speaker 6: It'd be interesting to.
Speaker 7: Read a book on that, and have you really just
Speaker 7: all that stuff apart in the book? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: that would be a pretty cool book. I've never even
Speaker 7: heard anybody writing a book, you know, with that type
Speaker 7: of you know, subject matter doesn't mean it's not out there,
Speaker 7: but I haven't heard of it yet.
Speaker 3: So did I see you were on Yeah, definitely that
Speaker 3: would be sweet. Did I see you were on Triple
Speaker 3: Shall at one point? Or do you got you got
Speaker 3: your book? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been on the same show twice.
Speaker 3: Awesome. I got to go back and find those ones, man,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the most recent one, it was the Seed War,
Speaker 7: and we actually talked about just the serpent seed. And
Speaker 7: then the first time I went on, we talked about
Speaker 7: the epic of Esau and the whole Bigfoot and how
Speaker 7: Esau married into Nephlim giant clans and uh bred with
Speaker 7: them and actually from his loins, and that you and
Speaker 7: him marrying into those giant clans burst the Amalekite race
Speaker 7: and like when you get into the etymology of their
Speaker 7: name that means the blood liquors.
Speaker 3: Roger turned Ronder really turned me on to uh tinfoil
Speaker 3: Hat and all basically all the conspiracy podcasts now that
Speaker 3: we're listening, I just really got into it. I'm the
Speaker 3: new guy at it, so uh yeah, it's one that
Speaker 3: and I'm on the computer looking at I'm like, this
Speaker 3: can't be no way, come on, And.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those guys who will let you figure
Speaker 2: it out on your own. And when me and Anthony
Speaker 2: first started hanging out, he really was just kind of
Speaker 2: like I would be argument with argumentative with me, like no,
Speaker 2: you're crazy, you're crazy. Then I show him something that
Speaker 2: kind of proves that I wasn't crazy. And then, you know,
Speaker 2: after so long, when you're batting over you know, eight hundred,
Speaker 2: it's hard to uh, it's hard to doubt it.
Speaker 1: So eventually figure it out.
Speaker 4: Event I mean even he and when when I first
Speaker 4: met Anthony and like we were getting to know each
Speaker 4: other during the tournament or whatever, he would like ask me,
Speaker 4: Oh my.
Speaker 5: Buddy Rogers told me this this, What do you think
Speaker 5: about this? I'm like, yay, He's right. Yeah, going right
Speaker 5: in the middle of a tournament.
Speaker 4: I mean, we were playing terrible, so we didn't really
Speaker 4: care at that point on last day, but yeah, we
Speaker 4: went down a couple of rabbit holes and stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you ever get into the Serpent mounts?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah? Uh.
Speaker 7: I actually filmed a documentary uh this past year that
Speaker 7: I need to put together. I got hours of footage,
Speaker 7: but I went to a serpent mound in Ohio. Uh,
Speaker 7: done a lot of filming there. I actually went off
Speaker 7: trail off that cliff and actually found that monolith stone
Speaker 7: that they threw off the cliff.
Speaker 6: Uh, and that was cool.
Speaker 7: I've done some filming and with it, I set up
Speaker 7: the tripod in the woods and showed it and talked
Speaker 7: about it and stuff.
Speaker 6: It was really cool and uh.
Speaker 7: After I got all my footage, then I launched my
Speaker 7: drone from there and they got signs everywhere, you know,
Speaker 7: no drones, no drones. But I was like, hell with it, man,
Speaker 7: I'd rather ask forgiveness and permission. And so I actually
Speaker 7: launched it inside of the park and got one fly
Speaker 7: by and then a caaren come running, hey.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 7: So I was asked to leave when I landed it,
Speaker 7: but I went there, and I went to eenon Maun, Miamisburg.
Speaker 7: I went to Pensing Mounds back in October. And so
Speaker 7: I just went to all these cool mound places and
Speaker 7: done a lot of filming and drone footage. I just
Speaker 7: have to piece them all together.
Speaker 3: What's your theory on what those are?
Speaker 7: I think it's remnants of the giants. If you go
Speaker 7: like La Marzouli and Fritz Zimmerman, they got a pretty
Speaker 7: good theory that I think spot on. But in the
Speaker 7: Bible talks about when they come out of Exodus and
Speaker 7: they were cleansing the Holy Land and all those tribes
Speaker 7: that they told them to, you know, kill every man,
Speaker 7: woman and child. You go through the genealogies. All of
Speaker 7: those tribes that were mentioned were known Nephlum giant clans.
Speaker 7: So they were cleansing the land of this hybrid race.
Speaker 7: And la and Fritz had said that the smart ones
Speaker 7: seen how they were wiping everybody out and moving north,
Speaker 7: and especially like the shoot Phoenicians. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 7: The Phoenicians, they were known, you know, seafaring people. He said,
Speaker 7: I think a lot of them ran. He said, they
Speaker 7: moved north. And he said probably the Phoenicians and some
Speaker 7: others got on ships and sailed west and made their
Speaker 7: way into the Americas. And he was talking about the
Speaker 7: water levels were higher back then, and he said a
Speaker 7: lot of people theorized that there was a channel like
Speaker 7: from New England going straight into the Great Lakes and
Speaker 7: in there, especially that island Royale or Royal Island, something
Speaker 7: like that. It's like in between Canada and the Michigan
Speaker 7: Lakes there. But it's one of the largest copper mines
Speaker 7: that they found, and they guestimated one hundred billion tons
Speaker 7: of coppers missing. It's just like this astronomical amount of
Speaker 7: copper that they say is missing, and it tests at
Speaker 7: ninety eight point eight percent pure, so it's the purest
Speaker 7: copper in the world too. And they find this copper
Speaker 7: in England, they find it in the Levant, they find
Speaker 7: it in China, they find.
Speaker 6: This copper everywhere.
Speaker 7: So it shows you that these giants, I think these
Speaker 7: Phoenicians were coming over mining this copper and then taking
Speaker 7: it out and distributing it across the world, fueling the
Speaker 7: Bronze Age. And they even found a huge monolith rock
Speaker 7: that has a Phoenician style ship carved into it, So
Speaker 7: I think these guys were doing that. They were going
Speaker 7: back and forth minding this copper, supplying the world during
Speaker 7: the Bronze Age with all these precious metals, and a
Speaker 7: bunch of them stayed behind and settled and they just
Speaker 7: started taking that Ohio River Valley down from there, and
Speaker 7: that's where you get all your man complexes and stuff.
Speaker 7: They're all along this Ohio River Valley, I think, because
Speaker 7: that's the path they took from the Great Lakes and
Speaker 7: they left their fingerprint as they went.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. It's definitely.
Speaker 2: There, absolutely, And that's why I like theory, where like
Speaker 2: the giants, like sometimes you see the mountains that have
Speaker 2: like a giant, you know, form like a giants hen
Speaker 2: or a foot or a face even sometimes.
Speaker 3: Like or even like a laid down jih. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like you see in the Mohana. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's possible, man, Like you said,
Speaker 7: a lot of them they do. They look like large
Speaker 7: human faces or a body laid down taking a nap
Speaker 7: and all this different kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean, it looks like it.
Speaker 7: And when you read like the Book of Enoch, it
Speaker 7: talks about these pre flood giants like they were you know,
Speaker 7: thousands of ales, and it said they were tall as
Speaker 7: cedar trees and uh, you got Devil's Tower and all
Speaker 7: these other things that they say are mountains or you know,
Speaker 7: rock formation trunks formed by flooding.
Speaker 6: They look like yeah, they look like big old tree trunks.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: And that's the thing is a lot of people even know.
Speaker 7: But this is a petrified piece of a tree and
Speaker 7: it looks just like it. You see the lions and
Speaker 7: it's a stone, it's a rock. It's a petrified piece
Speaker 7: of a treat and it looks exactly like Devil's Tower
Speaker 7: and some of these other places that they talk about.
Speaker 1: Them. That's crazy.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's cool. That's definitely awesome.
Speaker 4: Did you grab that before you get you get grab
Speaker 4: that where you got thrown out of flying the drone?
Speaker 7: Uh no, actually, but I bought that maybe two to
Speaker 7: three miles away from Serpent, ma'am, because there's this rock
Speaker 7: shop there that the locals told me about, uh that.
Speaker 7: The husband and wife are you know, fringy like us.
Speaker 7: They talk about giants and alternative history and things like
Speaker 7: that that I needed to go talk to them. So
Speaker 7: I went down there and met them, and they got
Speaker 7: this huge rock shop and they got fossils and old
Speaker 7: rocks and stones and all this kind of stuff. And
Speaker 7: so I've seen that and bought that while I was there,
Speaker 7: and I actually interviewed that guy Terry and talked about
Speaker 7: some of his theories and the giants on Serpent Man.
Speaker 7: So if you guys are in that area, you definitely
Speaker 7: want to go check out that that rock shop.
Speaker 6: That is really cool.
Speaker 3: I'd love to take a road trip over here. I'm
Speaker 3: looking at pictures right now off the Serpent Mountain. I
Speaker 3: always say it looks like kind of like a sweet,
Speaker 3: sweet golf course, like with undulation and in the mounds
Speaker 3: in the halls, I was like, that's me always going
Speaker 3: back to golf. Man, I'm just sick. Man.
Speaker 1: I would take a trip to the cold and those
Speaker 1: guys are all out there.
Speaker 3: It's not far dude. You got Buffalo is about five
Speaker 3: hours and once you get to Buffalo. I think Ohio
Speaker 3: is about seven. Oh it's it's more than halfway. Yeah, Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Like here, we could go to Buffalo, stay there for
Speaker 3: a night and then you know the rest of the
Speaker 3: way and you're there.
Speaker 6: Is that guy Terry.
Speaker 7: He told me a cool theory about the serpent moun
Speaker 7: that I had never heard before. And it makes perfect
Speaker 7: sense because he's married to I can't I don't remember
Speaker 7: her name now, but she's full blooded Native American and
Speaker 7: she practices, you know, still does the the rituals and
Speaker 7: the practices and all that kind of stuff too. But
Speaker 7: a lot of people theorize that this is a snake eating.
Speaker 6: An egg, and it does.
Speaker 7: It looks like it, and like people like La Marzouli,
Speaker 7: they've done films and stuff about these mounds and the
Speaker 7: Nephelem and he said that he thinks it's the serpent
Speaker 7: and the cash eating the egg, you know, trying to
Speaker 7: eat humanity. That kind of thing. But when I talked
Speaker 7: to him and his wife and they said, no, if
Speaker 7: you go back and you read that. I can't remember
Speaker 7: the explorer's name now, the one that found it. That
Speaker 7: they actually had to reconstruct to try to kind of
Speaker 7: restore what they thought it looked like. And he said
Speaker 7: that the Native Americans say that originally that egg, you know,
Speaker 7: it was a little bit more rounded, he said, But
Speaker 7: they flew a plane over to do what they call that,
Speaker 7: some kind of radar scanning to see, you know, what
Speaker 7: Earth has been moved or messed with and that kind
Speaker 7: of thing. Yeah, and they flew over a serpent mound,
Speaker 7: and you could see what looked like little legs coming
Speaker 7: off the back and then also into the front. And
Speaker 7: then also at the head of that egg, you have
Speaker 7: like this little triangle like many mound about the you know,
Speaker 7: the size of maybe a basketball or something. And so
Speaker 7: Terry said, so if you look at that, he said,
Speaker 7: you have this circle, legs in the front, legs in
Speaker 7: the back. You have this little triangle not at the
Speaker 7: very front of it, he said, the Native Americans believe
Speaker 7: that it was originally a turtle. And he said, in
Speaker 7: their mythology, and legends, he said, kind of tell the
Speaker 7: story of the migration of the Maya. He said, because
Speaker 7: the Mayans in South America, he said, they traveled north.
Speaker 7: He said their god was Quasi kettle, you know, the
Speaker 7: feathered plume serpent.
Speaker 6: And he said.
Speaker 7: Corn was not indigenous up here. He said, it came
Speaker 7: with the people from South America. They brought the corn
Speaker 7: with them, and they had these legends and lore about
Speaker 7: Quasi kettle, and the legends and lore told you how
Speaker 7: to plant the corn and get two seasons out of them.
Speaker 7: And he said, so the Native Americans they called North
Speaker 7: America Turtle Island. He said, so they believe that it's
Speaker 7: telling the story of the migration of the Mayans in
Speaker 7: South America, traveling north with their god, their serpent, and
Speaker 7: devouring Turtle Island. And I was like, now that makes.
Speaker 6: A lot more sense. And I'd never heard it before.
Speaker 6: It was the first time I ever heard that. Actually,
Speaker 6: I got a picture. Let me find it.
Speaker 2: Are interesting just because of where it's located to, like
Speaker 2: in Ohio, like that it's like just a random spot.
Speaker 1: But now his theory makes sense of like the path that.
Speaker 3: Eating it's eleven hours away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so halfway there when you get the Buffalo, I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was a little closer. I didn't realize I
Speaker 3: was left figh.
Speaker 1: Know where you're going in Ohio?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, there's a great conference.
Speaker 6: Uh, you guys should check out.
Speaker 7: It's They have it the last weekend of July every
Speaker 7: year and it is in Brooksville, Ohio. I've been there
Speaker 7: several times. It's a great conference.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 7: But uh, from where the conference is at, there's two
Speaker 7: of Ohio's largest mounds within a half an hour from
Speaker 7: where the conference is thirty minutes one way, they have
Speaker 7: the Miami's Burg Mound and it's like eighty something foot high, huge,
Speaker 7: and then another half hour the opposite direction, they have
Speaker 7: the Enon Mound and it's, you know, a little bit
Speaker 7: smaller than Miami's Burg, but it's still a huge mound.
Speaker 7: And it's actually in the center of a subdivision. And
Speaker 7: they have a roundabout that goes around the mound, and
Speaker 7: they have these houses around that roundabout, all facing toward
Speaker 7: that mound.
Speaker 6: And the history of it.
Speaker 7: Is that they used to have a horse racing track
Speaker 7: around that mound, and that even Joseph Smith was recorded
Speaker 7: visiting the mound and that he stood on top of
Speaker 7: it and proclaimed that this was the land of the neophytes,
Speaker 7: talking about the nephalom. A lot of cool history and
Speaker 7: stories in that area of it. So yeah, if you
Speaker 7: ever go to that, you can go to the conference
Speaker 7: and check out two really cool mounds. And I think
Speaker 7: Serpent Mount is just uh two or three hours south
Speaker 7: from Brooksville, so you could check out three really cool
Speaker 7: mounds while you're there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, thirteen hours thirteen and a half hour drive
Speaker 4: from me.
Speaker 2: So it's about halfway point. He's the mic support of
Speaker 2: We're in upstate New York.
Speaker 1: So a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, met in the metal.
Speaker 2: He saw being Bigfoot. See my Bigfoot theory, And I
Speaker 2: don't know if your your theory supports the start, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to think like Bigfoot's responsible and and he's interdimensional
Speaker 2: for like a lot of missing form one one and
Speaker 2: uh and ship like.
Speaker 1: That, like.
Speaker 2: Through portals and such or caves even but I know
Speaker 2: that the aliens have to be involved a little bit
Speaker 2: with that. But I'm starting to think that, you know,
Speaker 2: I always thought Bigfoot could constantly be an alien as well,
Speaker 2: just like a different dimension opposed to outer space type alien.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and what's cool is like when you get into
Speaker 7: the weeds, you know of Esau, So I tell people,
Speaker 7: you know, his description sounds like a bigfoot. And then
Speaker 7: when you have the blessing of his father, it says
Speaker 7: that Jacob, you know, kills a goat and wraps the
Speaker 7: fur around him like a blanket so that he could
Speaker 7: go in and pass himself off as Esau to his
Speaker 7: blind father. And so it says, the blind father reaches
Speaker 7: out and touches this goat's skin, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So it was poetic language or hyperbole. No, he was
Speaker 7: literally as hairy as a goat. And he makes this comment,
Speaker 7: he says, I hear my son Jacob, but I feel
Speaker 7: my son Esau. And he says, but you smell of
Speaker 7: the field, so therefore I know you are my son Esau.
Speaker 6: So it talks about.
Speaker 7: He's stunk, and you have all these stories about Bigfoot
Speaker 7: and these smells.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 7: And Esau marries into these Nephlim giant clans. He takes
Speaker 7: three wives. Two of the three are known Whoorites and HETEs,
Speaker 7: which were documented as Nephlum giant clans, and the Book
Speaker 7: of Genesis says one of his father in laws is
Speaker 7: named Sierra, and that he reigned from the land of
Speaker 7: Mount Sierra. And when you go to the etymology of
Speaker 7: that word, that means harry, Harry, rough and ruddy. So
Speaker 7: here we have this clan of giants, and they are
Speaker 7: described as Harry, rough and ruddy. So it's like they're
Speaker 7: describing a feral giant or maybe even a bigfoot. But
Speaker 7: then so then you have Esau, who's this harry wild man,
Speaker 7: marries into this clan, breeds with them and makes the
Speaker 7: Amalekite race, and whose name the etymology means the blood liquors,
Speaker 7: and all the historians talk about they were known as
Speaker 7: a clan of sorcerers and shape shifters. So I tell people,
Speaker 7: I'm like, if Esau was what we would call a bigfoot,
Speaker 7: he bred with these Nephelim giants made another hybrid race,
Speaker 7: maybe what we.
Speaker 6: Would call bigfoots today.
Speaker 7: The Book of Enoch says that these hybrid beings when
Speaker 7: they died, their souls remained to torment mankind, So would
Speaker 7: they not want to choose a familiar form that they
Speaker 7: used to look like.
Speaker 6: And this was a race that was known as shape
Speaker 6: shifters and sorcerers.
Speaker 7: So I think when you have the people that have
Speaker 7: physical encounters with Bigfoot and you get you know, footprints
Speaker 7: and all this stuff, I think that, you know, that's physical.
Speaker 6: But then you have other people that.
Speaker 7: Have all these like spiritual experiences where they see it
Speaker 7: coming in and out of portals or footprints suddenly just stop,
Speaker 7: or the mind speak or the orbs and UFO phenomenon,
Speaker 7: all this kind of wu stuff attached to it.
Speaker 6: And I tell people, I'm like.
Speaker 7: Well, if what I'm saying is true, it makes perfect
Speaker 7: sense because these are the disembodied spirits of these feral
Speaker 7: giant clans that were known as sorcerers and shape shifters. So, uh,
Speaker 7: I think it's not out of the question that they
Speaker 7: would choose a familiar form and be doing this magical
Speaker 7: stuff because that's what they did while they were alive.
Speaker 5: That's that's hard to find.
Speaker 4: So when you you said you went on a you
Speaker 4: went on a a big fun hunt.
Speaker 5: Did you see any evidence.
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 6: And yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Me and a bunch of content creators got together and
Speaker 7: went camping, uh in the Smoky Mountains, and I didn't
Speaker 7: see anything, but I heard a lot of stuff, and
Speaker 7: I filmed the whole thing I'm working.
Speaker 6: That's another documentary I'm working. I'm putting together.
Speaker 7: But uh, I was actually recording, getting like first hand,
Speaker 7: you know, testimonies from some of the guys and Kevin
Speaker 7: from where the Weird Ones Are. I was actually I
Speaker 7: had my tripod set up by the campfire. He was
Speaker 7: setting in his chair and I was conducting an interview
Speaker 7: asking him, you know stuff, And while we're recording, Uh,
Speaker 7: you just hear this loud thump. You hear it on
Speaker 7: the recording, and Kevin and Riley and them kind of
Speaker 7: look around and then all of a sudden, you hear
Speaker 7: just this I don't know this screech howl, weird freaking sound.
Speaker 7: You know, I'd never heard nothing like it. And it
Speaker 7: happened like six or seven times in a row. And
Speaker 7: you could even see Kevin's face. He's like, you hear
Speaker 7: that and freaked everybody out, man. And you can even
Speaker 7: see it. When that happens. Behind Kevin, you see a
Speaker 7: bunch of the guys from CW Yachts go to the
Speaker 7: truck and start pulling out their r's and stuff, start
Speaker 7: going out in the woods to go find it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: And they said that while they were out there they
Speaker 7: kept hearing that sound but couldn't really pinpoint where it was.
Speaker 7: But there was three guys that went in there, and
Speaker 7: Drew was one of them. But he had said that
Speaker 7: they'd seen orbs and when they went out there to
Speaker 7: try to find where this sound was coming from, he's
Speaker 7: seen a set of orbs and that they followed the orbs,
Speaker 7: that they just kept moving away from them, but they
Speaker 7: had gotten like pretty deep back into the woods. And then, uh,
Speaker 7: one of the guys was like, Hey, we've been walking
Speaker 7: for a while. We're pretty far from camp. I think
Speaker 7: we should just stop turn around. But we had that
Speaker 7: and uh, some infra sound we had we set up bait,
Speaker 7: and the bait we had set up, we had three
Speaker 7: or four groups of three to five people, uh, spread
Speaker 7: out about sixty yards in like a perimeter, and we
Speaker 7: all had our lights off and Riley's group and and
Speaker 7: I want to go back and say this, a lot
Speaker 7: of these guys, you know our ex you know, military
Speaker 7: or police.
Speaker 6: Uh, these these are not you know, your average show people.
Speaker 6: You know, they're they're hard people.
Speaker 7: And we kept seeing Riley's group kept turning their lights
Speaker 7: on down there, and they turned it on for a
Speaker 7: while turned it off. They'd done it three or four times,
Speaker 7: and we finally come across the radio. I was like, guys,
Speaker 7: what's going on down there? And then they come across
Speaker 7: the radio and they said, guys, we're freaking the hell out.
Speaker 7: And they were the ones closest to the debate trap
Speaker 7: area and they were right the side of this creek
Speaker 7: and they said, we're hearing all kinds of sounds, man
Speaker 7: footsteps and all this kind of stuff. They said, we're
Speaker 7: freaking out. And it's not just one of us, it's
Speaker 7: the entire group, they said, And we just had a
Speaker 7: fear come across all of us, he said. It was
Speaker 7: like a heaviness, he said, come across all of us,
Speaker 7: he said, and we all were talking about it. He said,
Speaker 7: so sorry, guys, we're out. And they actually got their
Speaker 7: crap and went out of the woods. And it freaked
Speaker 7: Riley out. Now you know Riley, you know from Midwest Mythos.
Speaker 7: He's in our chat. You talk to him, and I
Speaker 7: actually got footage where I interviewed him. He was so
Speaker 7: scared and tore up. In my interview with him, he
Speaker 7: started crying, dude, and he would he refused to sleep
Speaker 7: outside in his tent. He locked himself in his car
Speaker 7: after that experience that.
Speaker 6: Night, and him and.
Speaker 7: Harley had seen something that was seven eight foot tall,
Speaker 7: they said walking around the bait trap with their thermal,
Speaker 7: and that they seen two of them and we were
Speaker 7: lights out. They had the thermal, we didn't, but we
Speaker 7: had radios and I had my camera out and I
Speaker 7: was recording. But it was just pitch black, so all
Speaker 7: you can get was just, you know, the sounds. And
Speaker 7: we had a little cam line on the cage that
Speaker 7: we had debate set up on, so it's just pitch black.
Speaker 7: You can hear everything, but all you see is this
Speaker 7: little light. And then all of a sudden, you hear
Speaker 7: Harley coming across the radio all excited.
Speaker 6: He's like, oh my god, oh my god, guys, there's two.
Speaker 6: There's fucking two.
Speaker 7: And we're like what what And then Riley's like, let
Speaker 7: me see, let me see, And Riley gets it. He's like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, yes, there's two. And as they're saying that, dude,
Speaker 7: that cam light goes off and then it comes back on.
Speaker 7: Then it goes off and comes back on like something
Speaker 7: was walking in front of.
Speaker 6: That cam light blocking into the view. Yeah, so it
Speaker 6: was wild.
Speaker 7: So none of us actually had like a you know,
Speaker 7: I mean a tangible like you know, Harry and Henderson
Speaker 7: seeing the thing, but had lots of experiences, lots of
Speaker 7: crazy feelings. And but Riley and Harley and I don't
Speaker 7: think they got any reason to lie because both of
Speaker 7: them had the same story that they've seen it with
Speaker 7: the thermal, and Riley had never seen a big butt.
Speaker 7: And like I said, that night, it freaked him out.
Speaker 7: He cried and locked himself up.
Speaker 6: I ain't making.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it freaked him out enough that he was
Speaker 7: teary eyed and boys cracking talking about it and refused
Speaker 7: to sleep in his tent that he set up, and
Speaker 7: he slipping his car with the doors locked.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I go. I want to
Speaker 2: go with Anthony on a bigfoot hunt because I know
Speaker 2: I can outrun him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you're running away from anything, you don't have
Speaker 7: to be the fastest guy. You just don't need to
Speaker 7: be the slowest.
Speaker 4: It's crazy to think too, Like you get all you
Speaker 4: get all excited, you get all your buddies together, you
Speaker 4: go on this trip to go hunt for something that
Speaker 4: you're super excited to see, and then they sing you
Speaker 4: know you're too garified, Like, yeah, I would say the
Speaker 4: full experience, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'll do a screen share with you, guys.
Speaker 7: I'll show you that trailer I'll put together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, set it up. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Let's see documentary.
Speaker 2: Trailer here close out the episode Operation Smoke.
Speaker 6: H Okay, here it is, so let me go to
Speaker 6: screen share.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're up in the upstate.
Speaker 2: Is near the Adurun next where David played is film
Speaker 2: that documentary The mist Form with the Tom Messic, So
Speaker 2: we're not far from that situation at all. We had
Speaker 2: a around deck Bigfoot on our podcast a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and he does a bunch of hunts up there. We're
Speaker 2: gonna probably take a trip up there one time with him.
Speaker 2: See if we can find him, See if we can
Speaker 2: find Bigfoot and company.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: Growing up in the Appalachian Mountains of East Tennessee as a.
Speaker 1: Kid, you would hear stories.
Speaker 7: From the old men about the beasts of the monsters
Speaker 7: that lie deep within those hollers and the hills.
Speaker 6: We always thought it was made up stories to keep us.
Speaker 7: From roaming too far from home and to make sure
Speaker 7: but that we were home by sundown. As kids, me
Speaker 7: and my friends would run bare feet through the woods, letting.
Speaker 6: Our imaginations run wild.
Speaker 7: Sticks would magically become guns, and we would hunt those
Speaker 7: monsters of the deep woods. I guess some things never change.
Speaker 8: One of the Smoke rule those in the Tennessee Fine
Speaker 8: in the moonlng crooked Lego, warning sun. It came for
Speaker 8: the truth of the tales of the jokes just racked
Speaker 8: that crew on Operation Smoke.
Speaker 6: There was Drew Ski leading from c W.
Speaker 1: H with a beard like a property and the eyes
Speaker 1: that don't stop.
Speaker 2: Jessica Jones had her boots in the.
Speaker 1: Bun chasing down the then just through shadow End Blood
Speaker 1: Parley Owens part the land with the ice.
Speaker 8: Something out here has learned how to hide and ridly
Speaker 8: came down from the Midwestmith's till the howl in the
Speaker 8: dark turns calm in to go runts in the dark,
Speaker 8: screams in the trees, food Prince deep as the boots
Speaker 8: beneath me, fines playing tricks, heartbeats broke.
Speaker 3: Under the stars of Operation.
Speaker 8: Smoking, Skittles in hand, but the fear ain't face of
Speaker 8: the real big walking around that Lady Kevin in Risolve
Speaker 8: from where the weird ones are they low?
Speaker 6: And the brush whispering under the stars?
Speaker 5: Did you hear that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: Did you the froze mid bite, munch and skills?
Speaker 6: Well, something screamed in the night, Doc Brown from Prometheus.
Speaker 6: Lynn stood tall with a.
Speaker 8: Camera and hand, trying to catch it off.
Speaker 3: But the woods don't care for a steady frame.
Speaker 8: They'll ride of your soul in whispery on, grunts in
Speaker 8: the dark, screams in the trees, And was that ride
Speaker 8: on the mountain greens tracks like hammers, both of smoke
Speaker 8: signs from the deep in operation smoke, Brown folks giggling,
Speaker 8: but nerves still shake when something howls down by the lake.
Speaker 3: I love it? Did you make that song up with
Speaker 3: the what's the app there? We did? I love it?
Speaker 2: That's and this is that right there? Like people ask me, like,
Speaker 2: what do you watch on TV?
Speaker 3: This is that?
Speaker 1: I don't watch TV. I watch it like I watched
Speaker 1: it like that.
Speaker 2: I go on you know YouTube or you know sits
Speaker 2: like yours, and I watched stuff like that, like real
Speaker 2: true stuff, like real people. I don't watch I don't
Speaker 2: watch the bullshit. I watch real people like that. That
Speaker 2: was really well done.
Speaker 3: Many thanks.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: That was cool.
Speaker 1: The Cryptic Hunters.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get her on the podcast for
Speaker 2: a little while then too, I got to reach reach
Speaker 2: back out to.
Speaker 6: Her and Jessica Jones.
Speaker 1: Jones, who.
Speaker 6: Mike Jones, Who Mike Jones.
Speaker 1: Doc man, this is a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It would be nice to go on one. You want
Speaker 3: to go? You want to go, Mike, Yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 5: We do crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: Dude, I might poop my pants a little bit.
Speaker 2: Go down to the glades down there, that's what they
Speaker 2: call it down there.
Speaker 3: An't hotting the gators down there? Baby, A frog man.
Speaker 1: A frogman, that's.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So you know that was down in Mexico. That was
Speaker 1: the video.
Speaker 3: I seen a lot of the new Yeah, swamps, a
Speaker 3: lot of dead bodies in those swamps.
Speaker 5: That there is.
Speaker 7: A lot of vacuum sealed blocks of cocaine too. Airplanes
Speaker 7: and not picked up.
Speaker 2: Square grouper, the square grouper, and they're fucking getting the
Speaker 2: little energy boosts of the day.
Speaker 6: The ghost knock your stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably kicking it around.
Speaker 3: He's got Yeah, I moved around a little bit. We're good.
Speaker 4: He is Area fifty one an so he always is
Speaker 4: getting tested, so he might have a little side effects,
Speaker 4: a little caesure, side seizures.
Speaker 2: So well, now, doc, man, appreciate your time. Why do
Speaker 2: you plug your page one more time? Let them know
Speaker 2: where they can get your book.
Speaker 1: Let it rip.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, man, I appreciate you guys having me and Uh,
Speaker 7: I enjoyed this. It was just like laid back talking
Speaker 7: with someboddies up over the campfire.
Speaker 6: Man, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: But my show, uh, it's a Prometheus Lins podcast. You
Speaker 7: can find the website you got pulled up there Prometheus
Speaker 7: Lins podcast dot com. That's a one stop shop. You
Speaker 7: can find everything there. You can order my book there
Speaker 7: directly from me if you want to sign copy, and
Speaker 7: I always give out like a goodie bag. I hand
Speaker 7: out a handful of stickers and some custom bookmarks and
Speaker 7: things like that. If you buy directly from me, uh,
Speaker 7: then you can go to Amazon and they got it
Speaker 7: on all three formats on there, so you can get
Speaker 7: it a physical copy for twenty, a digital for ten,
Speaker 7: or audio book. You can have it read to you
Speaker 7: and it's me read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: That's huge, man, because then you know I feel that's
Speaker 2: like when an audio book wise like that, you're getting
Speaker 2: it on the personal level. And then it's someone you know,
Speaker 2: people who listen to your podcast, it's going to sound
Speaker 2: like another podcast episode.
Speaker 1: In the long scheme of things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well so that's that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time absolutely.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on getting the book out. Good luck with getting
Speaker 2: the other ones out. I mean, I know it's not
Speaker 2: an easy thing to do, and a family member who's
Speaker 2: an author, and it's a grind. It's a grind doing
Speaker 2: the research and putting all the work together, plus the
Speaker 2: videos and stuff. So put that content out, brother, you
Speaker 2: put that content.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that you're listen. You're good. I'm gonna tune
Speaker 3: into some of your podcasts because I enjoy I enjoy
Speaker 3: listening to that southern accent and you got that good
Speaker 3: radio voice so smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you were putting at the end here.
Speaker 1: I thought you were putting Anthony to sleep for a second.
Speaker 3: No, No, he just got to there's some people that
Speaker 3: there's some people out there that you know, like just
Speaker 3: you prefer to listen to more than others. They just
Speaker 3: got that voice.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Man, I'm gonna definitely tune into some of
Speaker 3: your some of your stuff.
Speaker 6: Bro nice man, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Sure back man, check them out for Meet the Lands.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break here and recap the episode.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 1: That was a fun one. Boys.
Speaker 2: We had our guy Doc Brown for meeth these Lands.
Speaker 2: Go check them out, real fun episode. He dies everywhere
Speaker 2: he talks about on a knock, he talks to Stargate,
Speaker 2: he dies in the Laurel King, which is an episode
Speaker 2: I want to get into at some point. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun stuff on his page or go check
Speaker 2: them out. A lot of fun, a lot of fun
Speaker 2: chopping him up with these other podcast there's the past
Speaker 2: couple of weeks man, and just getting into the different
Speaker 2: inspiracies we you know, we kept that one away from
Speaker 2: the political side of things, so just having fun with it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it is a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: And uh, I got a lot of books to buy man,
Speaker 4: you know, like in that trailer and then that after
Speaker 4: that trailer that was like a like a Netflix hit series,
Speaker 4: you know, that trailer.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect way to end it.
Speaker 5: Yeah that they was sick.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of a lot of bangers, a
Speaker 4: lot of bangers, a lot of people coming on. I
Speaker 4: hope people who listen are enjoying the education side of
Speaker 4: it from people who do real research and you know,
Speaker 4: read the books and have the proof to back it up.
Speaker 4: And I mean and at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: they're all theories. But when you get guys on like that,
Speaker 4: they have very strong backings. It's it's fun to listen to.
Speaker 4: So I hope everybody's enjoying it.
Speaker 2: It was a good, very nice comment from him. You know,
Speaker 2: I was just saying that was a fun kick back
Speaker 2: conversation with us. That's really what we're looking to do
Speaker 2: where we're not looking to have a you know, we
Speaker 2: want to take the deep dives and have the crazy,
Speaker 2: you know conversations, but we don't want to have the
Speaker 2: uncomfortable conversations where we're pushing back with people and their theories,
Speaker 2: Like I want to hear everybody's theory, everybody's you know,
Speaker 2: this isn't going to be a debate show kind of thing.
Speaker 2: This is going to be hopefully someone learns something more,
Speaker 2: you know, go and do your research, look it up
Speaker 2: all that. You know, there's a lot of yeah, you
Speaker 2: got to do.
Speaker 5: I want everybody else to to.
Speaker 1: You know, I take a ton of notes, like dude,
Speaker 1: for this podcast.
Speaker 2: I find myself watching movies or documentaries and like have
Speaker 2: a notebook next to me now to like write things down.
Speaker 2: Like when I watched a couple of weeks ago, when
Speaker 2: I watched eyes ware Shot, I was taking out, dude,
Speaker 2: I had a notebook next to me, sitting there smoking
Speaker 2: a dude writing notes. I'm like, like, look at this
Speaker 2: occult symbolism. Look at this. This the crazy little things
Speaker 2: that people just wouldn't pick up on. But now that
Speaker 2: I know what they are, you see them. But man,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna do fun episodes, and we're gonna do
Speaker 2: episodes like this. We're gonna take deep dives into you know,
Speaker 2: the crypt will do some Crypti stuff. Trying to line
Speaker 2: up some guests like the hollow Sky podcast. We might
Speaker 2: we might. Actually I think our best scenario with them,
Speaker 2: because scheduling situations, is maybe do like a crossover live episode.
Speaker 2: They do a night shift on Wednesday nights, so you
Speaker 2: jump over on their on their live stream or and
Speaker 2: have a dull live on our r end as well or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. So yeah, I'm done for that.
Speaker 2: See if we can figure something out to that extent,
Speaker 2: Me and Anthony might have a location change coming up,
Speaker 2: a little different visual coming up here in the future.
Speaker 3: So just for hearing for hearing there, I mean, we
Speaker 3: can still record from maybe one night, you know.
Speaker 2: Just change it out to see if the what the
Speaker 2: setups like, and even on the local side of things,
Speaker 2: be able to bring guests it and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm down to check it out.
Speaker 2: Situations like that. So but yeah, make sure you guys
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Speaker 2: we'll keep doing our r N. Don't know if you
Speaker 2: boys have anything before we close out.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's another banger each other's.
Speaker 5: Stop watching the news.
Speaker 2: Stop watching the news, watching conspiracy casts. What'll see you
Speaker 2: next week?
Speaker 3: Alright, guys, good night