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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of

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the Poker Go Podcast. And my name is Donnie Peters.

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His name is Tim Duckworth. I promised you guys on

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the last episode that we would get to the twenty

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twenty six SIP schedule, and we are here to do

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just that. Tim and I are going to run through

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some of our thoughts on the schedule, which I'm sure

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many of our listeners out there have already had their

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eyes on, but if not, we'll go through some of

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the notable changes, the additions, the subtractions. We'll hit on

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some of the events that we think are good, some

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of the things we think might not be so good.

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We'll talk about what we would want to play, you know.

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All that sort of stuff is coming in this episode.

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It is Thursday, February nineteenth. It is two pm, a

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nice crispy afternoon. Here is it snowing by you? I

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heard it was snowing over.

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on a meeting today. It's stop now, It's more just rain.

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But yeah, we definitely have a little.

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And then also if you guys missed it, we did

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Both were wildly entertaining. They took place yesterday in the

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day before Tuesday and Wednesday that are available on demand

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on poker Go. First game had Antonio s Fondii Sam

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Keekey headlining second one. Those two guys are back. Nick

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Wright gets into the mix. Nick Wright, who has now

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been announced at as the new co host of No

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Gamble in the Future. So there's that little nugget. Also,

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Nick writing Sam Keikey kind of going at it a

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little bit. I mean, I don't know, I feel like

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Keiki couldn't handle the heat. And you know, Nick. Nick's

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a sports media personality. He talks for a living, he's

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got takes for a living. He's certainly a bold person,

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not one to hold back. He's also got that kind

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of attitude where he's gonna dish it out, He's gonna

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talk shit like it's kind of all in good fun, right,

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But I think it was pretty quickly apparent that Kiki

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couldn't handle it. I mean, he just he honestly couldn't

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handle it, and and I feel like Nick kind of

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sensed it and jumped on the opportunity even more to

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just give it to him, and eventually Kiki kind of

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just took his ball and went home. Now he did

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say he had a flight anyway, sure, so you know,

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but I mean, I don't know, it was it was,

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it was very it was very very entertaining. I'm sure

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you guys saw some of the clips on social media.

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If you didn't check those out on the Poker gro

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social media channels. If not, go watch the episodes, especially

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Wednesday's episode, because it got it got pretty, uh pretty

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hot in that in that studio room with those guys,

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with those guys battling, and of course Antonio asked Fundier,

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he's in the middle of them, he's like egging it on.

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So just just a lot of fun there overall. But

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it's also very nice to have have Nick Wright joining

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No Gamble of the Future, filling the seats, filling the

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void of Jeff Platt, who's now gone see you later, Jeff,

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you know, you know dead to us. It wasn't too

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happy by the way, Jeff Platt on your uh you're

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saying that he wasn't gonna get into the Poker Hall

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of Fame.

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Speaker 3: That was a may buddy, That was you. I led with,

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Speaker 1: I would say Jeff is at.

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Speaker 3: Least a step closer now, he's definitely a lot.

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he e asbid. He might be a favorite now I

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don't know just how wacky that thing is. Yeah, all right,

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let's get into the schedule here. The twenty twenty six

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BASITB schedule was announced earlier this week. One hundred gold

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Bracelet events of the live variety. We still don't know

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what's coming from the online variety. That always comes later.

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on it. Everything kicks off on May twenty sixth. Very

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similar dates is going to run May twenty sixth through

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Another couple of nuggets here from the official news announcement.

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A daily free stream is going to start on May

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twenty sixth and run until the main event. They pointed

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out an improved TV set that is going to be

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in Paris Las Vegas, which the set before was actually

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in the Horseshoe side of things takes place at Horseshoe

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and Paris, but everything was on Horseshoe. Now they're moving

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it over to the Paris side, which is going to

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be interesting. I think it'll be better, yes, but it'll

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just be interesting. You know, people come in there expecting

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it to be one place because it has been that

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place for a couple of years and now switched. And

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then the other thing is that the WAB main event

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final table is going to be delayed, although they didn't

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really give too many details about it, so we don't.

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that they're gonna set the final table the final nine

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on July thirteenth, and it was kind of just left

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like that's it, but come back at a later date.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if it'll be three days they say none.

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Speaker 1: I think they said play down to the final table, didn't.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, you know what, The August eighth has

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a nice little uh ring to it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's gonna still happen in July me

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personally not August. But you know, we can get we

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can get into that, so we'll hit on that topic

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as well. I guess let let's just start there, you know.

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come out of this, is that the main event, Final Table,

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is being quote unquote delayed. I'm doing quotation marks for

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those that are listening just because, yeah, because we don't

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have the information. My guess is it's gonna take place.

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Speaker 3: On July.

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Speaker 1: I need to pull up my calendar. Actually, July, where

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are we looking? Twenty fifth is my guess, although I

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think that's a bad day to start it. But and

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my reasoning is that, isn't there this weird circuit thing

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that's announce.

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Speaker 2: That which ends on July twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so then maybe it'll take place the next sixth

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day after.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is put in there to bridge

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the gap between the two. I don't really know what

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gap you're bridging. I guess just to keep poker fans

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around in Las Vegas. I personally think that the the

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November nine concept, and it doesn't necessarily have to be November,

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but that's the name we of course gave it when

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it was first announced. But just the concept of delaying

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the Final Table to a later date by more than

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just a day because they have had that day off, right,

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that's greater than a week is a good thing in

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theory and just needs to be executed better. The one

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part of the execution that I think worked when it

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was done is that you could you could relocate the

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stage to a larger theater and each Final Table member

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can have a large group of supporters there, which I

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thought that atmosphere was amazing when it happened, both being

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there in person for some of those and also I

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feel like that came through much better on the broadcast.

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I just felt like things were much more condensed when

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you were just keeping it on the stage. Not that

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the atmospheres weren't pretty electric, they just weren't as grand.

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I think bridging that gap in the time with additional

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media coverage is a very good thing. You just you

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really have to work at that. So let's see. Is

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it just going to be something where final table gets set,

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it gets announced, they say, okay, it's going to happen

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on this date, and then we don't hear much from

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these players, from media whatever. I mean. I remember when

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the member nine was first announced that we were floating

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around crazy ideas like we can get the chip leader

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on late night talk shows and like this, that and

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the other thing. And I don't think that. I think

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that that's, you know, too much of a of a

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pipe dream to ever happen. But you could do other things,

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you know, you could you could run them through the

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car washing in other ways, you know, and maybe you

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work with your broadcast partner to do that. I would

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love for that to happen. I think that that's ultimately

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going to be a good thing for poker, but it's

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going to take a lot of resources behind it. So

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I guess TBD on that front. But I like the

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fact that you do delay it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not going to matter how many

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days it is, right, if we're talking three or four days,

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we kind of do much in there. We're talking a

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week to ten days something like that. I think that's Okay,

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I'm assuming that what GG and WSP are doing with

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this is a like you said, probably, hey, we're going

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to fiddle with the set. We're going to make it

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bigger and grand and make it a really big TV production.

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lined up for these players, you know, you know, media

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days and other kind of events to highlight you know,

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the players leading into you know, the conclusion of the

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final table.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you know we're going to know the date.

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Speaker 2: I think we will have to know the day before

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the World Series starts, right, Obviously you have to do

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it before the main event. But I feel like, you know,

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GG ANDWSP dot com are probably starting online satellites soon.

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You probably want to have that day kind of locked

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in confirmed as quickly as you can, and then, you know,

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makes it a lot easier for people to say, hey,

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I'm going to play this satellite or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean I think it's not necessarily that big

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of a deal to announce that date. I mean, obviously

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sooner rather than later, yes, But I don't think it's

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a necessity to start it to announce it like in

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the next week or something. I would say you definitely

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just wanted out before the Doabasity starts and then or

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maybe you know, you kind of do an announcement during

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the first days of Dobysity.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's yeah, that would work to I'm interested with

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the new set relocating to Paris. I think you know,

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we spend a lot of time at the Horseshoe on

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those feature tables. We've spent a lot of time walking

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to Paris, and the big difference is Horseshoe gets very

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hot once you're add in all those LED lights.

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Speaker 3: It's a very warm venue. We've had players.

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Speaker 2: Asks for air conditioners and all kinds of things when

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you go to Paris. You know some of those spots,

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walk through sometimes freezing cold, like the tundra. You got

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people in blankets and hoodies and everything. So you know,

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moving the final table there. You know, this is probably

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not even part of the plan, but you know, these

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final tables that get super hot due to those early

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which is probably a good thing that they no one's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I mean I like at the colder, the

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better so yeah, you're a weirdo. I mean, listen, you

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can always bundle up. You can only take so many

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clothes off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. And the one other thing I

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want to kind of the language they touched on. You know,

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they say like daily freeze stream from May twenty sixth

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until the main event. So the two things I see

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with that is, Okay, what's happening with the main event broadcast?

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What are they planning there? Because I feel like they

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would have just said, you know, daily free stream entire

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world series. And also they don't really mention, you know,

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poker play. They say free stream, and we've heard all

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kinds of things about breakdosk shows and daily shows, so

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maybe you know, we're going to see you know, them

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being very selective with what they're streaming, or you know,

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maybe that was just the language they chose. They're going

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to be all in with multiple final tables every day,

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so a lot of that is still kind of TVD

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and it would be interesting to see kind of what

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they outline live stream wise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting. I didn't really read too much

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into that phrasing that you mentioned, but now that you

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pointed out, it is interesting because it does say a

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daily stream will be broadcast live on the official Diversity

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YouTube channel from May twenty six through to the start

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of the mean event. Yeah, that's so, that's that's an

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interesting way to phrase that. So what happens during the

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main event is, you know, it's likely and you're.

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Speaker 2: Going to assume that if they're going to do a delay,

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it's probably got to do a lot with you know,

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the production, the distribution, and they're probably all going to

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tie that, like you said, into one more big announcement,

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you know, keep that. You know, we obviously have WSP

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where you know they want to Obviously this month is

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going to be dominated by WSP talk. It's going to

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fade a little bit in March, pick back up in

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April and then May. Everyone's getting ready, so maybe they're

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planning the announcement you know, March. Keep it's like kind

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of the NFL, how they're literally the talk of the

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news cycle the whole year round. You know, it's very

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smart for WSP to try and do the same thing

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and really dominate the poker news landscape, and you know,

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this is one way they can do it. You know,

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that like how they teased everyone last week on Friday

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with the the announcement of the announcement, right, and then

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they have the announcement on Monday. Then they've oh, there's

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still more to go, maybe two more weeks. We hear, oh,

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next week, we're announcing when the final table is. So

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you kind of can keep wsp like kind of at

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the top of everybody's you know, timeline for as long as.

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Speaker 1: P All right, let's get into some of the additions

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and subtractions that happened on this year's schedule. Once again,

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one hundred Live Gold Bracelet events have been announced. So

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the events that are new this year for twenty twenty six,

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we have the five hundred and fifty dollars Mystery Many

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Mystery Millions with a mystery bounty top prize, a top

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bounty prize of one million dollars. So and that's actually

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going to kick off the series, whereas last year kicking

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off the series in terms of like your Big Field

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Open event was the one thousand dollars Buying Mystery Millions tournament.

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That tournament is still on the schedule, it's just shifted

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to a later time period, right, And then they have

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this five hundred and fifty mini mystery millions to kick

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things off many. To me, I don't agree that it's many.

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If it's only half, I think you need to go

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three hundred or lower. But you know whatever, it's gonna

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be interesting to see how big that one gets. I mean,

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a five hundred and fifty dollars buy in is just

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I mean, that's going to track to everyone, right, So

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let's see how big this one gets. Obviously, dangling a nice,

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big fat carrot in front of everyone with that one

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million dollar guaranteed top bounty prize. I'm personally not a

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fan of playing mystery bounties. It's just me, you know.

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I don't like to I don't like to have a

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large portion of the prize pool taken out and basically

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thrown into this lottery over here. But I understand their

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place in poker, and I do agree that operators should

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certainly have them on their schedule because the masses love

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these damn things, absolutely love them. So I would expect

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this thing to be freaking enormous, and if there's an

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event on the schedule, it has a chance of, you know,

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setting a record in terms of largest ever live poker tournament.

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It's this one. I don't know if it will, but

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you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's definitely, you know, it definitely has a

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shot to kind of flirt with becoming the biggest you know,

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live field. I think where it was at twenty twenty nineteen,

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the five hundred, big fifty twenty eight thousand players in that.

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So you know, it's not can't rule it out, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course you can't rule it out. So

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I mean, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Guess what is the closest, Like I guess the closest

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thing recently would be probably, you know, with the one

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K Mistery millions in twenty.

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Speaker 3: It's a pattern you're talking about size.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying in twenty twenty four the ONEK mistry millions,

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the you know, had eighteen thousand. Last year it had

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nineteen thousand and change. Obviously, so you're going to have

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to buy in still big prizes, you know, I think

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we I think we can probably safely say over twenty thousand, right, yeah,

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I would say five six starting flights.

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Speaker 1: I would say this one gets over twenty thousand. I mean,

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I feel like it's hard not to right.

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Speaker 2: I feel like with you know, the six starting flights.

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Kicking off the World Series with this, I think we

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break that record.

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Speaker 1: Do you think to break the record? Yeah, I mean

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that's hot. Take that seems insane to break the record.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight three hundred and seventy one is the record.

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That's from the Big fifty. I don't I don't know

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if we'll get that, man, I don't know that. That's

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just slot.

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Speaker 2: The largest flight, okay for a five hundred dollar buying

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the World Series had was twenty nineteen. Okay, we had

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a nine thousand and a seven thousand for a five

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hundred buying. I've got six flights of these. All we

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need is, you know, three of those and two extra flights.

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Speaker 1: What's the re entry rules on this this thing?

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Speaker 2: The big question is also when is the do you

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get paid on that day? If you get paid on

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that day, that will definitely make it more likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: Two re entries per flight.

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Speaker 3: What do you play down to?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're making me look up structures now.

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought you had it up.

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Speaker 1: No, I had the main schedule page up, but I

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have the thing up now.

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Speaker 2: Because if you can cash and cash and then buying

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the next day.

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Speaker 3: It's a luck. Twenty eight thousands a luck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, standard payouts start on day one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they probably play down a five percent, so

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you know, anywhere between seven and a half and well,

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it just.

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Speaker 1: Just says no, it actually says day one is play

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twenty two levels.

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Speaker 3: So it's similar to what they did last year, where.

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Speaker 1: You'll get to the fifteen thousand and thirty thousand level.

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Speaker 2: So normally I think you're in the money for a

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couple of levels, which will help the chance of us,

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you know, heating that twenty eight thousand numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean this is you know, it's

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going to be crazy to start things off, of course,

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you know, but I mean this is the way you

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should kick off the World Series. Every year, was there

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sort of a massive field tournament? Shout out massive all right.

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We also have the ten k GG millions. Nolan would

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hold them high Roller as event number eleven on the schedule.

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Ten thousand dollars buy in there. Two starting flights.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna notice that this is a theme for

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some of these events. Additional starting flights, notably in a

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in a handful of these high rollers, where they went

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to two starting flights. Event number sixteen is the seventeen

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dollars US Circuit Championship, which is a tournament that I'm

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not sure I understand. Like, so I first see this

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and I see, okay, it's called DOWSIP event number sixteen,

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seventeen dollars Nolan maan HoldEm USSIP Circuit Championship. If it's

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an official divisipy event with a number, then that tells

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me it's a bracelet event.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, that's what I'm assuming.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But it's called the Circuit Championship. So is it

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also give a ring? Is it part of the circuit?

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Like what what is the relationship between this event and

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the circuit? Also weird buy in? But but this is

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the buying that's used on in circuit events. Yes, also

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US is the world not allowed?

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Speaker 3: It's Americans only?

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Speaker 1: This is how this works. Like, I'm just kind of

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confused here. It's just kind of interesting that it's all

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like that. I'm assuming it's just it's just a divisipy event.

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It's a seven hundred dollars buying nolanman holdam divisipy event. Like,

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I don't, you know, I don't the name is the name, but.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're trying to basically, you know, connect the

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WSP with you know, their little brother WSP circuit. This

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is kind of a way to put it more in

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front of people. They did this a WSP paradise for

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people qualifying.

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Speaker 1: How does this how does this make that connection other

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than the name, like like how like what does it.

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Speaker 3: Actually buy in in the name.

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Speaker 2: I really think that might might just be it, you know,

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I don't think there's much more kind of outside of

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that to be.

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Speaker 1: Like, I feel like, if you're really going to connect it,

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you need to like qualify people. You start with the name,

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and like every person that cash is gets a ticket

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to play a circuit event or like like you know,

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like actually like connect the dots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's maybe they have more future plans where

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they you know, they couldn't roll in. Maybe the plan

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is that is to award packages, et cetera. But you

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know that's something they could really do on this short notice.

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But maybe that's the plan for you know, the twenty

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twenty seven well was there's Poko bet I.

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Speaker 1: Already know after this podcast, we're going to get several

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messages from our friend Jeff Plat. Jeff, forgive us for

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all the nonsense we're about to say, but you will

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correct us afterwards. Happy to have you on at any point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, idiots, but.

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Speaker 1: You're still not getting into the Hall of Fame. I'm sorry.

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But other than that, other than that, all good. So yeah,

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So nove number sixteen, the seventeen hundred dollars US Circuit

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Championship us ws AP Circuit Chance. That's a whole freaking mouthful.

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Event Number fifty three the fifteen hundred dollars five card

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PLO event that should do very well. I would guess

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the even number ninety one another PLO. This one's pick

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your PLO. It's a dealer's choice PLO format where you

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can pick PLO PLO, eight, five card PLO or big O.

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So four games in the rotation.

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Speaker 2: I'm similar to what we did a couple of years ago.

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I'm surprised they didn't put double board. Yeah, I think

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you could put double board in there. I also think

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you could put six card PLO. I guess I'm pretty

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Six card.

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Speaker 1: PLO is available on dobs ap dot com.

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Speaker 3: How many handed do you play?

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Speaker 2: Sixto can only play No, you can't play nine handed,

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so you can only play eight So that's probably maybe

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an issue.

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Speaker 1: Well, then make the tournament eight hand I mean, how

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many people are going to be playing this tournament that

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you can't make it eight handed?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and then I know it's I don't

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think it's this doesn't count as bracelets right this next correct,

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But we're putting it on here just to talk about

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as you know, new events as part of THESP Extravaganza

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throughout the summer. Is that July fourteenth through twenty fifth

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is the Summer Circuit Series. So maybe that's like, you know,

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maybe in this Circuit Championship you win some sort of

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ticket to play in the Summer Circuit Series like something

473
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960
like that. I think that's like the tie or somehow.

474
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,519
Speaker 2: And they do that schedule at that's eighteen events. There's

475
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:05,240
a five K hyroller, there's a three K hiroller, there's

476
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,119
a two k hiroller, and obviously the seventeen hundred main event.

477
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720
But yeah, it's very much a very typical circuit stop.

478
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:15,240
You know, they've got the four hundred dollars mini main event,

479
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,839
they got six hundred dollars buy ins Nightlely, Deep Stacks Satellite,

480
00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:23,079
It's Monster Stacks Plo Ladies events. So it's very very

481
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,359
much a circuit event, and and you know, the buy

482
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200
ins outside of obviously there's hirollers are kind of what

483
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,759
you would expect for any kind of US based circuit stop.

484
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: So those are the new events, plus that that new

485
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,880
series that's going to take place all during the summer.

486
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,000
And then we have, of course some events that are

487
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,480
no longer with us. Rip rip to the nineteen seventy

488
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:50,480
nine Poker Hall of Fame Bounty, Goodbye. I hate this event.

489
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,720
I'm happy it's gone. See you later. The seven hundred

490
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,440
and seventy dollars Lucky Sevens event is no more, which

491
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,839
also awarded a first place priorly of seven hundred and

492
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,319
seventy seven seven and seventy seven dollars, So that's gone.

493
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,079
This one might strike a chord with some people. The

494
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,720
three thousand dollars Limit Hold Them is gone? Are we

495
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:14,480
just trying to kill limit hold Them?

496
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:16,519
Speaker 3: You should?

497
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: Who changed one of our horse events to tours which

498
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,319
has also been which also happened last year at the

499
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,759
would be the three K Horse became the three K Tors.

500
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:26,799
Correct that that happened.

501
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:29,079
Speaker 3: People are just.

502
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,039
Speaker 1: Trying to kill limit hold them instead kill it.

503
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: Look, they still have two other limit hold them events.

504
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440
They've only always had like the last few years.

505
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: Three So what are the they have fifteen hundred and

506
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,519
ten k's that.

507
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: Ten and ten K they used to have this three K.

508
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,400
I think they may have done a limit shootout before too.

509
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a that that's a wild for

510
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,119
level years three K one, it's three K six max.

511
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,839
Speaker 3: It's the six max.

512
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this one should stay. This one should have stayed,

513
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,599
wasn't it. I mean we should have looked at the numbers,

514
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440
but like, was it well at ten? Did I feel

515
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,559
like this one was well attended?

516
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: It's limit hold them. It's not ever going to be

517
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:04,759
well attended.

518
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: But I feel like you should have had the fifteen hundred,

519
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,079
the three K six max limit hold them, and the

520
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,079
ten K limit hold them all in the same week.

521
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,839
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed.

522
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,559
Speaker 1: Another event that's gone, which I saw a fair amount

523
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,279
of chatter about people saying like they're kind of bummed

524
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,200
that this event is gone, the fifty hundred dollars no

525
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440
limit hold them shootout rip.

526
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, shootout.

527
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: They improved it last year by adding the day one

528
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,359
b option, Yeah, I think and everyone loved that and which.

529
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: That's weird to like make that improvement. Yeah, like you're

530
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,359
basically like you're kind of investing into the event more

531
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,200
and it did well and then now it's gone.

532
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a very popular event. Obviously, there's

533
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,480
you know, let's let's think of it from the operator side,

534
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,079
there's no re entries, I mean outside of that other flight.

535
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240
But you know, it's basically a freeze out. It does

536
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,599
take you know, you can't break tables. Your tables have

537
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,599
to finish out. So from a legacy, it's great money

538
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:02,680
maker for the WSP but I think it's a vital

539
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,240
part of you know, the WSV schedule.

540
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,759
Speaker 1: And then this event is is still there, but it's

541
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:11,960
just has a name change. The six hundred dollar Poker

542
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,880
News Deep Stack Championship has been renamed to the six

543
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,400
hundred dollars Deep Stack Championship, so just dropping Poker News

544
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,039
from that. So I'm curious there. I'm guessing Poker News

545
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:22,799
isn't going to have the same involvement with the Deep

546
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,680
Sacks as a whole as they did last year. They

547
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,279
did a whole bunch of coverage for it. They gave

548
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:30,359
out little medallions if you made fund labels, all that

549
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,079
sort of stuff. So I'm guessing that that part of

550
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,240
things might be going away as well, which you know,

551
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720
I don't think is like the biggest deal, but notable,

552
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:38,359
of course.

553
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,519
Speaker 2: It's it's notable, and I think it's you know, obviously

554
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,599
the deep stacks that Pokernese are doing extended coverage of.

555
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a smaller buying.

556
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: It appeals to a certain play a pool, and I

557
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,039
think it's still important to highlight that. So it is

558
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,559
a shame for you know, that playpool not to have

559
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,279
such a highlight on on those daily deep stacks. But yeah,

560
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,559
so yeah, that one's just a little bit of a rename,

561
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,640
but it's still there, still probably in a event that's

562
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,400
going to be worth playing. Good structure late in the series.

563
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Now, I think that there's one event or one format

564
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,279
of an event that they are missing. Actually I think

565
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:17,079
there's two or three, and I'll try and rank these

566
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,519
Mystery Bounty, oh my god, did you imagine a limit

567
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:22,200
hold of mystery?

568
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: Good Lord?

569
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I'll try and list these in terms of priority.

570
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,119
One is I think that they're missing a PKO. Now,

571
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,079
I know you and I have talked about this in

572
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,079
the past. I think we've talked about it on this podcast.

573
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,119
Maybe it was last summer or some other time. But

574
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,480
you know, logistically at the ws AP, when the fields

575
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,799
are just so much bigger than everywhere else, it's got

576
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:47,640
to be extremely difficult to operate a PKO. So my

577
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,720
solution there would be you do a PKO of a

578
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:53,839
very high buy in twenty five K, fifteen K, you know,

579
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,079
something just very very high, which I think a lot

580
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:01,400
of those players would love, absolutely love, and it's it's

581
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,839
a little bit more contained because it's a it's a smaller,

582
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920
more exclusive field. So I think like a twenty five

583
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:13,119
K p KO would be sick. So I think that's

584
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,400
something that I, you know, I would have wanted them

585
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,599
to add, And you know, I think it's a miss

586
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:24,279
to not have another one. Is I think your addition

587
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,160
to the mix series, the Big Bet Mix. They don't

588
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680
have one of those, do they they.

589
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:29,559
Speaker 3: Have a.

590
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,599
Speaker 2: No, I think they did, Yeah, twenty five hundred Big Mix.

591
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,119
Well they call it mixed Big Bet, Yes they did.

592
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,960
They've had that for a while.

593
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Games is it same same games we had in the

594
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:40,960
mix series.

595
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:46,599
Speaker 1: Okay, sweet, forgive me there, I'm an idiot for whatever reason,

596
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000
I didn't think that that included. I think five card

597
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,799
high is what I was thinking of, But that one,

598
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:54,519
I also think that.

599
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,519
Speaker 3: You could you could do a big buying of that.

600
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you could do a ten k

601
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200
like I could. I think I think I've always kind

602
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,839
of said this, but like, if you're gonna have one

603
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,000
one event of a variant, you just go for like

604
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,119
the twenty five hundred or the three k price point.

605
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:11,240
But then if you're gonna have two, you go fifteen

606
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,240
hundred and ten k, And I think they've kind of

607
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,880
always followed that plan, which I really liked. So like,

608
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480
I think you could go fifteen hundred and then I

609
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:20,640
think you could go ten k for this, Like that

610
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200
would be kind of cool. And the other one is

611
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,000
I still I'm still a sucker for the Triple Stud.

612
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,279
I'm just I'm gonna be forever a sucker for the

613
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:28,839
Triple Stud.

614
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:31,319
Speaker 2: So just you know, you know, you talk about like

615
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:33,319
putting the limit hold them together, you could definitely put

616
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,880
you know, the raz Stud side of high lower smaller

617
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,519
buyings within a wake. The next week, you do the

618
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,599
bigger buyings. You can definitely do that. There's definitely well

619
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,359
for a triple stud.

620
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: I love.

621
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 1: I would be curious if I don't really know how

622
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,599
you would test this, but I actually just doing it

623
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,480
and testing it and seeing the data, and I kind

624
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,440
of think that things will eventually move this way in

625
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,519
however many years. But that's that the ten K Championship,

626
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:03,920
seven Card STUAD events, so stud stud, high, low, and

627
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,319
ras are eventually gone and you just have a triple stud.

628
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,599
Speaker 3: Mm hmm in the ten K binds or all of them.

629
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,039
Speaker 1: Like, so instead of having one of each, you would

630
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:18,480
just have one event with all three and then that

631
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:21,440
basically opens the window for like two other events at

632
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,799
a time period. Now, I don't know what I'm saying,

633
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,039
Like I would want to test it this because like

634
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,079
I don't know what would do better numbers wise, but

635
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,720
like you know, I.

636
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 2: Think the individual ones would do better, to be honest, Yeah,

637
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:37,319
I mean there's there's definitely like stud specialists and specialists.

638
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I agree, but I think I lean your way right,

639
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:45,079
But I'm enough on the fence that I would probably

640
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:46,799
want to try and test it, although I don't really

641
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,839
know how to test it without actually just testing it

642
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,759
and you could ruin things.

643
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:50,519
Speaker 3: So it's kind of think.

644
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: I think the best way to test it, to be honest,

645
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,319
is you you know you do like looking at where

646
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,640
is it? You basically do your fifteen hundred horse. Then

647
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000
I would do a five K triple start, and then

648
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:07,119
you do the ten K horse. I think that is

649
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,640
a good I think you have to think of a

650
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,920
good schedule spot as well, but that's where I might

651
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200
do it. I don't think, actually, why.

652
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Would you do five k? Normally when they test things

653
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,279
like that, they do three k, like three k and

654
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:18,359
you know.

655
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. I think we need more five ks.

656
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Also, don't. I don't disagree with your point about how

657
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200
like you know you have like stud experts or stud

658
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
eight experts, et cetera. But if you were to get

659
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,359
rid of the three and make it all just one event,

660
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,079
don't those experts aren't they forced to play this?

661
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I think he may not get them to

662
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:41,240
play like I mean.

663
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I don't disagree, but also like I don't,

664
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400
I don't know because I feel like I feel like

665
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,519
when you have, for example, the twenty five K half

666
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,839
and half, like you get nolam at Holdham experts that

667
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,559
dive in, Like they won't play a twenty five K

668
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:58,240
PLO straight up, but they'll dive into the half and

669
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:59,200
half even.

670
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: So that's why That's why I also said five K

671
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,359
would be because like if your RAS game is not

672
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160
as proficient as your stud games, that you start high

673
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,320
and stuid high low, you know, instead of a custing

674
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,719
ten K, Like five K is a good prize point

675
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960
where the prize pool is going to be big. Now,

676
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,639
like you said, why does it to be five? It

677
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,440
could be three? Yeah, sure, I just like adding a

678
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
few more different buying numbers, That's all I mean.

679
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: I also want to point out that overall, I think

680
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,920
the schedule is is good. It's also funny because you

681
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,239
see it every year on social media and you know,

682
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,639
people ask you and they talk about it in various

683
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,639
poper circles. You know, when's the schedule coming out? When's

684
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,239
the schedule coming out? I mean it's it's pretty much

685
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,239
the same thing every year. Yeah, Like there's only like

686
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,440
a few small changes. Yet everyone thinks it's like this

687
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,760
monumental shift when it's just not.

688
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: I think people expect monumental shift.

689
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's it's it's just not at the

690
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,079
end of the day like you can pretty much map

691
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,360
out like exactly what the schedule is going to be,

692
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,400
and you.

693
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: Know the weekends are reserved for the big no limits

694
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,559
and then you're going to stagger. You know, they're going

695
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,079
to stagger events where there's where there's player overlapp. It's

696
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,679
just like a giant puzzle piece really, and it's always

697
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,199
going to be depending on the days of the week

698
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,320
and what events they want to add new. And then

699
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,800
you know last year they made one big change where

700
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,599
they kind of added they added extra flys to some

701
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,760
of these no limit events, so you know, these events

702
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
stretch out longer. Now that has a ripple effect for

703
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,679
every other event this year. We're going to touch on soon,

704
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,360
you know, with more starting flights in some events and

705
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,840
different ways they do Day two, there's a ripple effect

706
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,000
you know, post that event and into other similar you

707
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,400
know events with the buying and the game time.

708
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,079
Speaker 1: Something that also just popped into my head is because

709
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:49,760
the set, the main stage is moving to Paris, I

710
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000
would assume that they're going to flip how they do

711
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,320
like the big Field Day ones and stuff like, weren't

712
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,639
a lot of those in Paris, and then now they're

713
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,719
going to be in Horseshoe And my thinking is that

714
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,639
that Horseshoe Hallway is a quarter of the size of

715
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,679
the Paris so that that could be.

716
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: Why they do that.

717
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: You know, if people remember from last year they had

718
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,880
what was it, maybe twenty five percent of the Paris

719
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,199
room was dedicated to cash games. The only time they

720
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,920
opened that for tournaments was on the really really big

721
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,239
like Colossus Mystery Millions kind of days. So if they're

722
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,239
moving the set to Paris, that's obviously going to take

723
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,400
up say that entire area. Are they still going to

724
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,280
keep cash game a cash game section there because in

725
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,679
that limits, you know, the amount of tournament tables they

726
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:43,480
can have twenty four seven, I'd put the cash. Yeah,

727
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,480
no one cares about cash game. Let them go to

728
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,320
Blagio anywhere else. You just worry about bracelets.

729
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,199
Speaker 1: So if well, I mean the bottom line might tell

730
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,639
you to go f off there, buddy, Sure, yes, I

731
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,800
mean the cash always look like they're doing pretty well.

732
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, this day is we would will pass it

733
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,119
on days it was five tables going, and then there's

734
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,039
days where the whole thing was full. So it's obviously

735
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,400
you know, eaves and flows. But yeah, I would try

736
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,239
and have all tournament tables in there, and then you

737
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,400
know you can run some of the big no limits

738
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,159
stuff in there. You could also still have you know,

739
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,079
the high buying event in the corner, you know mat

740
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,360
with neither set or something. Then you have you know,

741
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,400
day one a miss.

742
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: My point that I was making last summer is that

743
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,000
like a one K bracelet every night, like one table,

744
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960
let's just go. I mean, what if we're driving revenue,

745
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,559
let's just drive the revenue to the freaking moon baby like.

746
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,119
Speaker 3: On you know.

747
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,079
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, I mean, you know, I'll hold it

748
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:41,199
until we kind of give our thoughts, but yes, there's

749
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,079
definitely a room for something similar to that.

750
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:47,199
Speaker 1: All right, So let's get into some of the event changes,

751
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,760
you know, stuff that's stuff that's on the event still

752
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,039
from on the schedule from past years, but you know

753
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,840
there might be some adjustments that are made. First thing

754
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,639
that stuck out to me this, this jumped out to

755
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,639
me immediately when I I opened the schedule. The twenty

756
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,599
five K Heads Up Championship is now two flights, and

757
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:06,960
I was like, wait, that wasn't two flights before? Right?

758
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,079
Speaker 3: No?

759
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: And then I looked. Of course it wasn't. So they

760
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400
are moving to two flights. Each flight is going to

761
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,119
be sixty four entries. Very interesting. I don't really know

762
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,199
how I feel about it. You can play both flights.

763
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920
If you play flight A and bust, you can play

764
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000
flight B. So you know, you could be in this

765
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,920
thing for fifty K as opposed to twenty five K initially,

766
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:33,840
and you know, I reserve the right to change my mind,

767
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,840
but initially I think not a good change. That's my

768
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,719
first thought. I like the fact that this was capped

769
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,000
at sixty four and if you missed it, you missed out.

770
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,960
That's on you. Yeah, me, like so yeah, I mean

771
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,079
I I yeah, And if you have I feel like,

772
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,239
if you have enough of an appetite, I would have

773
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,880
probably pushed to raise the buy in versus adding a

774
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,559
second flight first, like go to fifty K at sixty

775
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:07,639
four entries one flight, versus keep it at twenty five

776
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,519
K and add a second one. So yeah, I just

777
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:11,920
think that this is pretty interesting.

778
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? I hate it.

779
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,639
Speaker 2: I hate going to the one twenty eight for several reasons.

780
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,920
It's the biggest thing I'm going to say though. If

781
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,320
you go back look at like twenty sixteen, seventeen, it

782
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,960
used to be if you remember, a ten thousand dollars

783
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,719
buying heads up. In twenty nineteen we had one hundred

784
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,360
and twelve entrance, so we didn't make the full we'll

785
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,360
call it a double bracket. Twenty twenty one they upped

786
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,199
the buying at twenty five k. That was the first

787
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,639
year we went to twenty five, or not the first year,

788
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:42,079
but we went up to twenty five. Didn't hit the

789
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:46,199
sixty four. Obviously that was the year coming out of COVID,

790
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,599
so yep, okay, maybe that was the thing. And then

791
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:52,639
since then we've we've hit that max. Just going up

792
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,440
to one twenty eight it just allows just is a

793
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,119
bit of risk. I think the FOMO for this event

794
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440
is the best part. It's you know, when someone logs

795
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
in and deposits all their money into WSP plus app

796
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,880
and they want to play this. This is the first

797
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,639
one they're registering because they need to be part of

798
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,519
the sixty four. And the other issue is with the

799
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:14,480
two flights on a different days. I think it affects

800
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,719
the integrity of the tournament a little bit, you know.

801
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,000
And this was brought up on Twitter. This is not

802
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,280
my thought. This was you know, reading someone much more

803
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,880
intelligent than me. Is that you know, you can register

804
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
for one B and by the way, if you bust

805
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,400
one A, you can play one B. But you register

806
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:32,800
one B and then you can just look at the

807
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,199
updates you know, Twitter, Instagram, Poker News, Poka, dot Org,

808
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:41,320
WSP whoever, see who made it. And then your decision

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,159
to decide to oh, do I want to actually play

810
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:46,119
one B or do I want to unregister can be

811
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:49,159
swayed by who's kind of advanced. And now you can say, well,

812
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:50,880
it's going to be different sides of the brackets. Yes,

813
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,039
I would expect that to be different sides of the brackets,

814
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,760
but these guys are smart enough to calculate have their

815
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,440
ev changes whether you know this player makes it or

816
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,360
this player makes it.

817
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

818
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: It basically comes down to if you think that if

819
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,360
you were to win your first match and then get

820
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,199
thrown into that next group or whatever, that you know,

821
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960
win the matches to get into that next day whatever

822
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,920
that is, if that's gonna be much harder than you

823
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,920
originally thought, then you just on register and don't play.

824
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: So it's interesting.

825
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it goes. I think here,

826
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:32,440
I think with this event, you could explore an online portion.

827
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:35,039
Speaker 3: Yeah I say this every and.

828
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,599
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that starts at like five K or something,

829
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,239
and like at some point they get merged into the

830
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,920
field live, Like I think you could do that, and

831
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,719
then this event could be freaking massive.

832
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean I've said this every year, and follows me

833
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,599
on Twitter they would see my recent post talking about

834
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,960
a heads up series. But I think the World Series

835
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,360
is a perfect spot to run a five hundred dollars

836
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,039
buying heads up on WSP dot com where you play

837
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:03,920
down to say the final eight. You could do a

838
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,519
five K version and a ten K version all online

839
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:08,840
play down to the final eight or four whatever you

840
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,480
think it is. You come to Vegas, you know, maybe

841
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,440
it's the end of June. You finish that, and then

842
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,320
after that is the twenty five k. So ideally you

843
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,159
get some of those people that may have qualified for

844
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,840
five hundred bucks in one shit ton of money jump

845
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,719
in the twenty five K. I think I think police

846
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,639
players like heads up tournaments because they're so rare. There's

847
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,840
you know, one a year at the World Series. You know,

848
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,159
I don't think we see them at any other major stop.

849
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,800
You know, there are obviously at places like the Lodge

850
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,119
and stuff, but nothing like a major series will run

851
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,719
aheads up tournament, and I think a five hundred dollars

852
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,719
heads up tournament five K, ten K whatever it is

853
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,760
as well, would be incredibly well attended and you know,

854
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,320
do it online literally zero labor. So but yeah, I mean,

855
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,719
at the end of the day, one hundred and twenty eight,

856
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,719
one hundred and twenty four players, I think they'll I

857
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,599
think they'll get there, right.

858
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: You think they'll get there? I mean, well, actually, when

859
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,760
you consider the when you consider the.

860
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: The re entry entry aspect, if you're going to I

861
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:18,039
think every I think I think every loser will nearly

862
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,159
want to play. Like you know, who plays his heads up.

863
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,199
It's not what people like just taking their shot. It's

864
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,159
like heads up specialists. So I'm wondering how registration works.

865
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,960
Can I register one A and one B and then

866
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,880
if I make it through, I have to cancel my

867
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,199
one B. I would expect, you know, the Adria Mataos

868
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,480
and the Daniel and Grano's, et cetera, to all register

869
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:38,199
both flights.

870
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: What if you play Day one A and you bust

871
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,000
and Day one b is full. You don't care, you

872
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,360
know what I mean.

873
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: That's why I think people, you know, like you, people

874
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,960
are going to think about this straight away and they're

875
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,599
going to look in their app and be like, oh,

876
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,440
I can register both. I'll register both because I can

877
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,920
always I can always just say cancel it and get

878
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,199
all my money back so they don't miss out. That's

879
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:00,320
what I would expect happened.

880
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,119
Speaker 1: Some other notable changes in terms of flights for events,

881
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,559
the fifty Monster Stack and the fifteen dollars Millionaire Maker.

882
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,159
They are both taking the approach that we saw at

883
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,480
WSP Paradise for the Superman event.

884
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Correct.

885
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Yes, So basically what that means is you can play

886
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,679
a day one flight, then play a.

887
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,199
Speaker 3: Day two flights, yes, the next lost.

888
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: And then go back into a day one flight. Yes, right,

889
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,079
that's how this that's how this is outlined.

890
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:36,639
Speaker 3: Yep.

891
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, what are your thoughts there.

892
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: For the Millionaire Maker.

893
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't care as much for the Monster Stack, and

894
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,039
I think I see I've seen the most stuff online

895
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,639
relative was to the Monster Stack because.

896
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: And the Monsters Deck used to be well it was

897
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,719
it was freeze out per flight.

898
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think at one point it it was just

899
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,280
a freeze out. It was it was only a day one,

900
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,119
day two, day three. I'm talking like, you know, twenty sixteen.

901
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,960
Like the first year, it came out right and then

902
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,199
it evolved. Okay, they added another flight, and now it's

903
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,159
become this this event that's a bit more gimmicky when

904
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:16,760
I think a lot of people and I said, this

905
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,599
is the I'm directly quoting someone here, like this is

906
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,159
a lot of people's main event, you know, the Monster Stack,

907
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,559
good structure, deep structure. You know, basically it's a freeze

908
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,519
out for them. And you know, obviously now they have

909
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:34,760
the mini main event. But I think I wouldn't have

910
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,079
done this for the month Stack. I would I would

911
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:40,480
play around with the Millionaire Maker, the Colosses, the Mystery Millions.

912
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:42,760
I would try and keep you know, a few more

913
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,960
of these kind of better structured events, you know, like

914
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,679
the Mini main event and the Monster Stack. So a

915
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,519
little bit disappointed in there, but I get it. Like

916
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:51,760
you know, I think at the end of the day,

917
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,639
the WSP always want to well, at the end of

918
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:56,119
the day, they always want to make money, so this

919
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:58,519
does help with that, but they always want to try

920
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:00,400
and have big numbers for all their events, and this

921
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:04,480
is a way to essentially get someone to play. They cash,

922
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,079
they jump back in, they cash, they jump back in.

923
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, you could cash four.

924
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,679
Speaker 2: Times in the Millionaire Maker, And I think you know,

925
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,920
if that's what if that if you can only come

926
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,599
out for four or five days and you've only got

927
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,159
a limited amount of money, you know, that's probably what

928
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,920
you're going to spend it on and just lost away

929
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,159
fifteen hundred dollars a time.

930
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Monster Stack this year. So the first flight,

931
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,840
flight A, will be on June third. Then then there's

932
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,159
a flight every single day June third, June fourth, June fifth,

933
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,480
June sixth. On June fourth, so the day after Flight A,

934
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,400
that's when the first Day two is, and then there's

935
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,760
a Day two on June fourth, June fifth, June sixth,

936
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,440
June seventh. So you advance from flight A immediately the

937
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,920
next day you hop into your Day two. If you

938
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,159
were to bust that, you could just hop right back

939
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,159
into flight B. So an original starting flight then you

940
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,920
can basically repeat that process ye, and you can re

941
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,039
enter once per flight. So there's gonna be a lot

942
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,800
of turnover in this event. A lot of people going

943
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,320
for it, I would say that that that sort of structure.

944
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,159
I have two things on the structure here. One is

945
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:17,320
I think it's going to lend itself to better players

946
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:22,840
performing better in the event, yes, which makes it harder

947
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,320
for not as good players to win, which I think

948
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,400
is a negative. I'm also just curious, is this a

949
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:36,800
slow introduction to the thing that we saw at WSIP

950
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,639
Paradise in the Super Main event starting to become more

951
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:43,880
than norm for the Dobasip on the whole. They're starting

952
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,400
it now with the Monster Stack and the Millionaire Maker, Like,

953
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,719
is it going to just start coming into more and

954
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,440
more events? Also, I think the Classus as well. Is

955
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:59,440
the Clausus also doing this just basically it's going to

956
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,400
be because the norm basically like eventually, It's not It's

957
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,519
not like they're gonna make all events like this immediately,

958
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,639
you know maybe, But is it like this year they

959
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,760
have a couple, next year they have a couple more,

960
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,440
and then it just builds and builds and builds. Is

961
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,719
this is this gonna be the new norm?

962
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: I think it might be for these so they're not

963
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,079
give me the events like Marquee lower buying events. I

964
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:23,480
think this could become the norm, except for like you know,

965
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,000
when we talk about the Mystery Millions or the Mini Mystery,

966
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,159
they won't have it for that.

967
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it could be.

968
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,559
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna have it for the Monster Stack,

969
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:33,519
the Colossus, and the Millionaire Maker.

970
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,519
Speaker 3: And I would expect it to stay that way going forward.

971
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,960
I mean, that's not necessarius.

972
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,119
Speaker 1: It's like it's just asking a lot of bank rules.

973
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,079
Speaker 2: It's it's an expensive world series for you know, I

974
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:49,039
think you and me kind of fit in that playpool

975
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,960
of like those kind of buyings. Whatever you thought you

976
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,599
were spending. You know, maybe you budgeted twenty five k

977
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,320
or thirty K last year, that number is going to

978
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,599
go up this year, or you're gonna have.

979
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,199
Speaker 3: To resume the events you want to play.

980
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: It's it's yeah, you have to kind of look at

981
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,480
it and be like, oh, well this this fifteen hundred

982
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,000
dollars months to stack really might be a twelvesand dollars tonament.

983
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,480
All right, So okay, should I just say that Should

984
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,440
I save that twelve k for the main event and

985
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,400
the Mini Maine? You know, like I think people are

986
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,760
going to have to make really conscious bankrow decisions with

987
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,800
that that playpool.

988
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the play a.

989
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,039
Speaker 2: Pool of those like Midstaks, guys that that maybe only

990
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,360
have the twenty k that they're going to allocate to

991
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,480
the WSP this year.

992
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be interesting to watch

993
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:35,760
it play out. I mean, I think it's also one

994
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,239
of those things where, you know, kind of talking similar

995
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,239
to what I talked about in the last podcast. Poker

996
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,400
as a whole, I think there's just going to be

997
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,679
a lag in seeing some stuff. So I think this

998
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,079
year will be fine, you know, but if it just

999
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,719
continues down this path, I mean, I don't know, there's

1000
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,719
only so much money.

1001
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,039
Speaker 3: That people have.

1002
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,559
Speaker 1: I feel like it's also point it's just going to

1003
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:57,719
come back to bite everyone.

1004
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,559
Speaker 2: It's also a tough year to do it with the

1005
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:02,280
you know, the tax stuff is still not you know.

1006
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, I mean, I personally think that that's

1007
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,039
just not going to come up this year. I think

1008
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,400
people are just still blasting because they're just blasting and

1009
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,400
then you know, if they get hit with the bigger

1010
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,519
tax bill where they can't write as much off, then

1011
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,559
they're going to realize, okay, I need to start pulling

1012
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,199
type of thing. The fifteen big o that added a

1013
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:23,679
second starting flight. You have the Seniors Championship added a

1014
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,039
day two, so they're doing the same thing. You know,

1015
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:30,000
you play flight day next day, you play your Day

1016
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,679
two while the other flight is playing. So I would

1017
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:36,719
imagine this seniors event, which always does freaking bonkers numbers

1018
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,519
every year, those numbers are going to go up. I

1019
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:43,000
would imagine. Yeah, you have the one K Mystery Millions

1020
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:49,960
added a nighttime turbo flight one each, Yeah, lasting that thing. Yeah, well,

1021
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
you have both the the one K Mini main event,

1022
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,159
which is freeze out per flight. It was previously two

1023
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400
starting flights, it's now three starting flights. And then you

1024
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,840
have the three K mid Stakes Championship. They also added

1025
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:09,960
a third starting flight there. So I think overall it's

1026
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,960
it seems like you're going to need a little bit

1027
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
more of a bank roll as you did in prior years.

1028
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
So you put the package together or something like that,

1029
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,800
you're gonna need, you know, a few extra bullets in

1030
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
the chamber to be able to get through the whole summer,

1031
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480
So you know, just be prepared in that regard. And

1032
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:28,559
then you also have on the higher buying side, we

1033
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,960
already talked about the new edition being that ten KGG

1034
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:34,320
Million's high Roller coming in with two starting flights. Well,

1035
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,599
the twenty five K Nola at Holdham high Roller, the

1036
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,400
eight handed one that's also going to have two starting flights,

1037
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,719
and the twenty five K PLO high Roller is also

1038
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,239
going to have two starting flights, which is interesting, right,

1039
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,880
So I think that that's particularly interesting as you and

1040
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,599
I know you know, you certainly know just US players

1041
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:59,000
at least have talked about scaling back at the higher

1042
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,440
buying specific due to the tax thing. I mean, we

1043
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,880
saw it with we saw it with Jeremy Osmas. He

1044
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,400
played one bullet in the twenty five K Mixed Games Championship,

1045
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,360
didn't reenter because he's scaling back on on stuff above

1046
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,480
ten k. So are you gonna like, is is this

1047
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,559
the right move at the right time type of thing?

1048
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:21,239
I mean, we'll see. I think you're still gonna get

1049
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,559
enough of the non US blasters to be pumping up

1050
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,719
the prize sbol here of course, but you know, and

1051
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,320
then yeah, it's it's gonna be hard for someone like

1052
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,440
I mean, I just use Jeremy Osmas as an example

1053
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,159
because he's been out there talking about it and we

1054
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,400
saw it firsthand when he didn't pull a second bullet

1055
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,039
in that event where it's just like, is he just

1056
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,519
gonna be like kind of forced to to play this

1057
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:44,920
because the field is like the field and the prize

1058
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,719
board just like, oh man, really you're really forces my

1059
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,960
hand here. I gotta get back in.

1060
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, well, you know, I think this

1061
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,159
this event, I'm gonna pull it up, try and pull

1062
00:52:54,199 --> 00:52:57,360
out right now. But this event previously was I believe

1063
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,119
two re entries.

1064
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,559
Speaker 3: Right, So.

1065
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: Is someone just gonna that may have allocated, like say,

1066
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,800
Jeremy allocated you know, seventy five K to play this.

1067
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,119
Is he going to just allocate it differently? As in

1068
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,199
he might just do you know one late on day

1069
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,039
one A and then two on the day one B.

1070
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: It's one re entry perfectly, okay, Yeah, So maybe like

1071
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,320
what they instead of them, you know, maybe they're going

1072
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,800
to approach it differently.

1073
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about players being on time and

1074
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,559
that helps the tournament's kick up, but they may just

1075
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:37,159
wait so they you know, maybe they want to put

1076
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,280
one bullet in on one A and then then they

1077
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,280
just do you know one on one B. So I

1078
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,840
would expect this event number like field wise to go up,

1079
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,719
but not in the way where.

1080
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:52,199
Speaker 3: You saw, you know, a second fight completely.

1081
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: How long? How long was this event last year?

1082
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: It's a street it was a street day.

1083
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: Ever, well, okay, because this year you have of Day

1084
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,199
one A on June third, Day one B on June fourth,

1085
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:09,519
then June fifth, June sixth, June seventh, and that's a

1086
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:10,159
long event.

1087
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that ain't like basically so if you.

1088
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,199
Speaker 1: Play Day one A and you go on to win,

1089
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,519
not that that matters so much for this player, but

1090
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,079
it takes away entries elsewhere, like you're not just like firing,

1091
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:26,119
firing and firing, like I mean, I guess it is

1092
00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:28,400
interesting because we've heard Sean Deep talk about this and

1093
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,880
he even like kind of said that he advised Phil

1094
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,920
Hellmuth that, like you remember, Sean Deep last year was like,

1095
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,840
I'm thinking about skipping the w's main event because if

1096
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,280
I get sucked into that event for six days and

1097
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,800
I'm chasing Player of the Year, I should really be

1098
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,639
going for volume, not for necessarily the highest ROI because

1099
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:47,920
what he's after is the player of the year stuff,

1100
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:49,559
and if that's what I want, and the same thing

1101
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,000
with Hellmut That's why Dee was trying to kind of

1102
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:55,159
convince Helmut down this path is that if Helmeut's goal

1103
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,239
is number of bracelets, then getting stuck in one tournament

1104
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,199
that w's be made a then being the biggest example

1105
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,280
of this because it has the most extended player friendly structure.

1106
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,480
You don't want to just get stuck in that tournament

1107
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:09,320
for a week and be unable to play everything else. Well,

1108
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,239
you could basically get stuck in that tournament for a

1109
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,880
week not win a bracelet, or in that same time frame,

1110
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,840
you might win two or three other bracelets.

1111
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for this twenty five K you added the day.

1112
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,440
You're right, it's also about a week. It's a week

1113
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,039
stretching the WSP. It's quite action packed for these high

1114
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,519
ROLLA players. You got that twenty five K, you got

1115
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:30,800
another twenty five K, six max, fifty K no limit,

1116
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,639
one hundred K no limit. Then they all they all

1117
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:36,559
start on basically day three of each other. The problem

1118
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:38,599
with the event we're talking about right now is that

1119
00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:41,559
it has added a day for and you're going to

1120
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,599
just the five people, six people that make that final

1121
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:46,719
day for the final table. They're not going to play

1122
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,639
the you know, the twenty five K six max at all.

1123
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:52,119
And also you have the day two registration, but it's

1124
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:52,840
going to be before that.

1125
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Still register on day two for this, which I feel

1126
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,679
like is antithetical to adding a starting fleet. I feel

1127
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,599
like if you had a starting play, you would make

1128
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,480
rid end on the day once.

1129
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree.

1130
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,079
Speaker 2: It's you know, with this, like we've said, this climber,

1131
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,239
with the taxes, I think you didn't need to add

1132
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,760
a flight to this. The GG millions, I think that's fine,

1133
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,519
that's a new event.

1134
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: Do whatever you want.

1135
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,639
Speaker 2: I think these high rollers have been pretty you know,

1136
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,159
these are pretty good at the World Series. You know,

1137
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,840
there's big numbers, there's a lot of people you know

1138
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,239
from overseas internationals playing, so Americans are going to play

1139
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,880
them anyway. But now this is just like I think

1140
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,320
it's asking a little too much, especially with you know,

1141
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,360
you look at this schedule. I got the twenty five

1142
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,519
o K, another twenty five K, fifty K, one hundred K.

1143
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,360
I got the two to fifty K later in the series.

1144
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,960
You know, it's very expensive, very quickly.

1145
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: You also put in our notes removed a day from

1146
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
the Omaha High Low Championship. Yeah, so does that mean

1147
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,920
that they also changed the structure. I haven't run, but

1148
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,199
it was always four days.

1149
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: So I put that note because you know, in previous years,

1150
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,280
I would lay out the schedule, you know, in a timeline,

1151
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,679
and then we kind of look at where we want

1152
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:09,360
to stream, and you know, that was always that's always

1153
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,599
gonna be a day for and you know last year

1154
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:15,079
it was it took four days. So I noticed that

1155
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:17,079
and I was like, oh, I'm wondering if they made

1156
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:20,440
you know, a structure changed to that event, as well

1157
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,239
as maybe other ten k split Pot Championship events. But

1158
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,000
you know, I didn't really need to go too deep

1159
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:29,679
since we're not, you know, predicting final tables and what

1160
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:32,119
we need to stream this year. I just thought it

1161
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,039
was an interesting note. That's always been pretty much a

1162
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:36,880
four day event, just like the ten k Horse, but yeah,

1163
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,360
they're chopping that down to three days.

1164
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,239
Speaker 1: So all in all, I think the schedule is pretty good,

1165
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,440
you know, I think it's it's basically just on par

1166
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,440
with with last year, which I thought was probably the

1167
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:53,880
best schedule that they've they've done maybe ever. You know,

1168
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,719
just I thought it all flowed pretty nicely. Just a

1169
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,840
couple of things here or there were kind of stuck out,

1170
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,800
and I think the player feedback is something that I'm

1171
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,880
going to lean on the most, which I know a

1172
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,760
lot of the players were pretty happy with last year's schedule,

1173
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,119
and I know Tim and I got into like the

1174
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:12,559
nitty gritty of this year's schedule because that's what we're

1175
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,679
trying to do here with this episode. But overall, it's

1176
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,599
it's very similar to last year, and it's still a

1177
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:20,599
very good schedule. I think numbers are going to be

1178
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:24,280
very good and very bullish on all the numbers across

1179
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,440
the Divasophy. Of course, adding some flights is going to

1180
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,639
boost everything up. Yes, but you know, I think that

1181
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:35,400
I think it's good. I like moving that Mystery millions

1182
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:39,719
to closer to the Dobasophy main event. I like that addition.

1183
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:44,599
Speaker 2: Do you think they add some main event seat bounties

1184
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:49,440
as prizes instead of like ten K cash?

1185
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1186
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: I would say I think they should.

1187
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, if you just my only thing

1188
00:58:56,119 --> 00:58:57,480
is like and this is like it's one of those

1189
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,199
things where it's a good problem to have, so you know,

1190
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,519
first world problem, but there's always a chance that somebody

1191
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:07,719
pulls one of those that can't play the main event. Yeah,

1192
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,599
like so is that just an extra hiccup and things?

1193
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:12,320
So would you rather just give them the ten k

1194
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,519
cash and just hope that they parlay it into the

1195
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:15,360
main event anyway?

1196
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: Like you know, No, I'd rather give them a seat

1197
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,239
and if they don't want to play, then I'll roll

1198
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,239
it to next year or something.

1199
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying it makes it easiest just to

1200
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,880
say here's ten k cash.

1201
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,639
Speaker 3: Like that's just easy, you know, sure, like, but like

1202
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:29,000
that's what.

1203
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:31,519
Speaker 2: Look, we wind up back two years to what WPT

1204
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:34,920
did and with the you know, the club WPT free role.

1205
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,519
I if you remember, I want a WPTC, but I

1206
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:41,639
immediately tried to cash it out like I wanted the cash.

1207
00:59:41,639 --> 00:59:43,960
I would have taken less than you're a knit. Yes,

1208
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,360
I would have taken less than market value. But yet

1209
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,320
you know, I was forced to play, and I played,

1210
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,440
I busted whatever. But you know, if they care about

1211
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:54,360
we want a really big main event number this year,

1212
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,320
I would be looking at you know, they've added an

1213
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,920
extra fly, so you would expect more money in the price.

1214
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,760
I would take some of those five K bounties, you know,

1215
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,320
and then chop them down to one ks. But also

1216
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,880
then make some of them ten K main events seats.

1217
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,199
You have to admit that, you know, I would say

1218
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:14,119
there's a good portion of that mystery millions Field is

1219
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:16,800
not probably playing the main event.

1220
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: You know, they're not.

1221
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: They're not They're not a lock to play the main event, right,

1222
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,360
So this is a way to get some of those

1223
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,599
fringe people in. I think it's worth doing that, especially

1224
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,079
with it being so close and he and there's there's

1225
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,679
obviously a way we can kind of add to that.

1226
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,079
It's like, you know, the main event starts two days later, right,

1227
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:38,679
do those people Okay, I want a main event seat,

1228
01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:41,039
I'll play one D But now, okay, I have to

1229
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:41,440
be here.

1230
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:42,639
Speaker 3: I was going to fly home.

1231
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to play the mini main event, and I'm

1232
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,679
going to play you know this three K or the

1233
01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:48,599
six hundred deep stag. I've got to get a couple

1234
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:50,679
more nights at the hotel at Paris, I got to

1235
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:54,480
spend more money and food. There's some obviously, like you know,

1236
01:00:54,639 --> 01:01:00,639
more ways WSP slash Caesars, slash GG, slash Horse. Who

1237
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:03,920
can make some money doing that, And I think it'd

1238
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,800
be a good way to do it.

1239
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Where are you at on dobisity main event numbers.

1240
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:13,599
Speaker 3: Overs name the number i'm.

1241
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,639
Speaker 1: Overs last year was nine thousand and three and thirty five.

1242
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: Excuse me, whatever the record is, I'm taking overs on

1243
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,400
the record. Really, I'm normally pretty pessimistic about this. I

1244
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,719
just think I think GG is going to be all in.

1245
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,800
You know, this is their first year where it's really

1246
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,360
all theirs, right, the production everything, and remember two years

1247
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,599
ago they made a really big effort to break the record.

1248
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,519
I think this year they're going to go even bigger.

1249
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,119
You know, with WSP online satellites, GG pokers satellites, twenty

1250
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:50,320
five seed scrambles, fifty seeds scrambles, you know they're going

1251
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,760
to they're delaying the final table. I think they're kind

1252
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,519
of all in on just like record breaking everything, and

1253
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,880
like you've seen it with the events, the added fights,

1254
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:02,480
the day twos, their numbers, the entrant numbers are going

1255
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:05,960
to be through the roof, right, you know, the unique

1256
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,239
numbers might be down, but that doesn't No one cares

1257
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,639
about that. They just care about total entrance. And I

1258
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:13,679
think they'll make an even bigger effort to make sure

1259
01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:18,320
the main event breaks the record. Yeah, I mean, look

1260
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,320
at that still aside, does any tax doesn't even mean generally.

1261
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:24,039
Speaker 1: Always I'm always bullish and little it is form event, okay, right,

1262
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:27,960
And I don't know exactly where I stand just yet,

1263
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:32,239
but what I will say is that I think you're

1264
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,199
kind of seeing a little bit of everything that you're

1265
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:38,320
getting at just with this promotion that's going to be

1266
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,360
running at the Horseshoe in Las Vegas, the Cash Game promotion, Yeah,

1267
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,559
where they're given out what is it, twenty five seats

1268
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:44,519
to the main event.

1269
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: Yes, and then assorted seats for other events. Yeah.

1270
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,039
Speaker 1: So basically, if you play at least one hundred hours

1271
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:53,480
at of cash over a certain timeframe, I forget the

1272
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,840
exact timeframe at Horseshoe, Las Vegas. So in the poker room,

1273
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,679
this is this is before the summer, you get into

1274
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,480
you can buy into like a twenty dollars tournament, and

1275
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,079
then if you get like if you play like one

1276
01:03:05,159 --> 01:03:06,760
hundred and fifty hours, you get more chips, and like

1277
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,360
two hundred hours you get more chips, and then like

1278
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,960
the top twenty five are going to get a seat

1279
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,039
into the WSPMIN event. So just when you're when you're

1280
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,719
putting out initiatives like that, like I would even say

1281
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,360
they should do that during the summer in the main

1282
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,760
poker room, you know, when they're running cash in the

1283
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,760
main poker but.

1284
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,599
Speaker 3: They should do it at every seasons.

1285
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Sure, But even just just this is a step in

1286
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,519
the right direction in terms of like their qualification efforts.

1287
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:36,719
So I think this is if what you're saying ends

1288
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,320
up being correct, then you can look at this as

1289
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:42,480
like the starting point for all of the other stuff

1290
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,079
that's going to come, you know, in terms of qualifying

1291
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:48,199
more people in So that's that's cool to see. I

1292
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:50,480
personally wish I had that many hours to go sit

1293
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,920
there and play cash. I don't, but I would say

1294
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,920
I understand I can't do it. But I would also

1295
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,440
say that, you know, why couldn't you do this online?

1296
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:04,639
Oh yeah, X number of hands you know, and twenty

1297
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:07,039
thousand hands or something, right, like and just drive people

1298
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:08,719
to play cash on wsp dot com. You can do

1299
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,679
like every month. Yeah, I like that, you know, like

1300
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:15,360
that would be that would be cool, right, or like

1301
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,760
you know, every every five hundred hands you play or

1302
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,559
every hundred hands you play, you get a virtual rival

1303
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:21,519
ticket and then at the end of every month, it's

1304
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:24,679
thrown into this this barrel they do the drawing that

1305
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,239
they give out some main evans. It's like, I think

1306
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:29,800
that would be cool as well. Yeah, all right, WSB

1307
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,440
Player of the Year, which I think Tim and I

1308
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,559
talked about before, but as a reminder, we're going to

1309
01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:37,360
get into it. It starts with doubs AP Europe this

1310
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,239
year and WSP Europe starts soon, right is it?

1311
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: Is it marchers at April one of the others very

1312
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,039
end of March.

1313
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: Okay, w s AP is bringing one million dollars in

1314
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:52,639
leaderboard prizes for the was B Player of the Year.

1315
01:04:52,679 --> 01:04:56,760
First place gets one hundred k WSIP Paradise package plus

1316
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,639
the POI title. Second third also get one hundred k

1317
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,039
WSP Paradise Package. There's prizes for four through fifteenth, there's

1318
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:06,800
prizes through sixteenth through fiftieth, and then there's prizes for

1319
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,440
fifty first through one hundredth So the top one hundred

1320
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,440
players ranked on the WSP Player of the Year leaderboard,

1321
01:05:13,519 --> 01:05:16,119
which again starts with WSP Europe that is coming up.

1322
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:20,039
There is one million dollars in prizes up for grabs.

1323
01:05:20,119 --> 01:05:22,679
So for everyone that was constantly like, we want prizes,

1324
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:25,280
we want prizes, we want prizes. Here's your shot. The

1325
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,880
prizes are there, go for it. Tim has some notes

1326
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,039
here on media presence. Why don't you just get into

1327
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:35,000
these because you're the one.

1328
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I have more. It's more questions about,

1329
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:38,840
you know, how things are going to be this year.

1330
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,519
And we've heard rumors from different outlets. We've heard from

1331
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:45,440
our friends of pocones. You know, they're doing everything they're

1332
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,440
doing like normal. We obviously have people that work with

1333
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,000
us that are working for the WSP plus app, and

1334
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,320
you know, we all expect a bigger team, bigger hands

1335
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,599
on presence. You know, this kind of goes into everything

1336
01:05:56,599 --> 01:06:00,199
they're doing right with GG and and WSP just trying

1337
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:05,920
to basically make everything WSP centric and I we're going

1338
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,559
to assume a much bigger team there. And then I

1339
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:10,320
would say maybe for BOG at all, but they might

1340
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,519
be dialing it back a little bit.

1341
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're.

1342
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Going to see how, you know, how kind of GG

1343
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:20,519
WSP treat things. We saw a paradise it was kind

1344
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:23,639
of a free for all, so probably something very similar

1345
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:25,280
for the media outlets this year.

1346
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1347
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean I'm always interested in this sort of stuff,

1348
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,159
so I'm guess I'm just willing to see how it

1349
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,280
all kind of shakes out, and nor really have any

1350
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,719
like takes your thoughts right now? All right, let's get

1351
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:41,440
into some fun. Which events not including the main event?

1352
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:43,519
So I can't name the main event? Well, let me

1353
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:46,000
let me ask this to start. Are you playing the

1354
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:46,719
main event this year?

1355
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,719
Speaker 3: I would like to.

1356
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,559
Speaker 1: I still have you got to get a mass streak going, right.

1357
01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: I still have the buy in sitting in my safe

1358
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,360
ready to go, planning to unless something work wise would

1359
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,360
prevent me from playing.

1360
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:06,239
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so we're gonna talk about which events

1361
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,880
not including the main event do we want to play.

1362
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,280
I tentatively did like a little schedule, basically thinking like

1363
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,119
and I do this every single year going into the summer.

1364
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,880
Like if I were to play me personally a full

1365
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,800
schedule based on what I think, you know, one I

1366
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,519
could have a decent piece of the of all the events,

1367
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:31,239
I can sell some action, Like I'm not just being like, yeah,

1368
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:32,960
I'm gonna play every day and I'm gonna spend foreigner

1369
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,400
cam Byron's Like, I don't think that's even like feasible

1370
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,440
for me. I mean maybe I could do it, I

1371
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,239
don't I don't know, So I put a bunch of

1372
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:41,920
events down that I that I would I would target

1373
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:48,119
to play. So basically anything, no limit, hold them. That

1374
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,519
is twenty five hundred dollars in under is my answer.

1375
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,159
Speaker 3: It's a lot of events.

1376
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I, well, I didn't put the the Gladiators.

1377
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,599
I'm gonna try and avoid that with all costs. I

1378
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:04,440
would love to avoid the Colossus too, at all cost

1379
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:06,800
but I did put it down on the schedule, but

1380
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,360
I would love to avoid it. And my reasoning is that,

1381
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:13,599
you know, like every time I've played it, you're playing

1382
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:16,319
ten handed. It's just a freaking disaster, Like I just

1383
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:18,479
can't Like every time I play it, I'm like excited,

1384
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,079
and then ten minutes in, I'm like, why did I

1385
01:08:20,079 --> 01:08:24,000
do this to myself? So maybe I'll not do it,

1386
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,199
But I would say I would say the one that

1387
01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:31,479
I'm most looking forward to is, well, there's two, the

1388
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,119
Monster Stack and the Million Maker. I've never played the

1389
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:36,520
Monster Stack. I've talked about it how I've always wanted

1390
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,600
to play it, but it's one of those ones where

1391
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,800
it's just so long if you get stuck in it,

1392
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,399
like I just you know, could never take away from

1393
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,720
work and that sort of stuff. But it's also always

1394
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,840
one that I put on my schedule saying like if

1395
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,960
it works out with work and family and life and

1396
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,359
all that sort of stuff, then yeah, I would love

1397
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,000
to get in there in this sort of format. So

1398
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,079
so yeah, so I would put that on there. And

1399
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:02,319
then the Millionmaker. I think the Millionmaker as well has

1400
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:04,800
a really really good structure. Like I think the Monster

1401
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,840
Stack people assume is like the best structure, but I

1402
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,479
think the Millionmaker is an awesome structure. I think that

1403
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,279
that's great. And I was able to play The Millionmaker

1404
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:13,000
last year, didn't do anything in it, but still like

1405
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:16,720
I was excited to play knowing it's a pretty good structure. Overall,

1406
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,800
it's obviously going to get a massive price school shout

1407
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,760
out massive. So those two events for me are like

1408
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,560
right there at the top. So I'm pretty pumped about those.

1409
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,520
And then also I would love to play there's a

1410
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,760
fifteen hundred dollars freeze out, there's a twenty five hundred

1411
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,479
dollar freeze out, and there's a three K freeze out,

1412
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,039
Like I love that, right, you know, the twenty five

1413
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,000
hundred and three K are are of course, you know,

1414
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:40,359
a slight step up in price point, but because of

1415
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:43,119
their freezeouts, I think that that's great.

1416
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 2: One thing I I'll add to your the list is well,

1417
01:09:47,079 --> 01:09:48,800
we didn't we didn't touch on it, but Glad eight

1418
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,399
is a poke, a three hundred dollar buy and you

1419
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,880
know four flights that has a big shift this year

1420
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,039
to starting It's going to start day three of the

1421
01:09:57,079 --> 01:09:59,680
main event this year. So hopefully one reason why you're

1422
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,319
not playing it is because you're say in the main which, sorry,

1423
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,439
the Gladiator is a poker that's moved.

1424
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: So let me also say that. And I've talked about this.

1425
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:08,600
I don't know if I've talked about on the pod

1426
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,600
or if I've done it privately, but I am a

1427
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,159
play the main Event and that's it. I'm done. I

1428
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:17,399
can't fathom playing anything after the main Event. I just

1429
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,640
I feel like you build up to this whole thing,

1430
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,319
you put your all into it, and then I just

1431
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:28,199
can't imagine playing another poker tournament after you played that one,

1432
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,640
and I would probably just light money on fire. So

1433
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,000
I'm just not gonna. I'm gonna not put myself in

1434
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:37,439
that situation where I'll, you know, blow the money and

1435
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,680
I just I play the main event. And when I bust, like,

1436
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,800
that's my summer, right, and then and then you take

1437
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,600
some time off and you're like you take some time

1438
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,439
off from playing, and you're like, yeah, that's it. I

1439
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,000
obviously know there's a ton of events after the main event.

1440
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:50,800
You know, main event is number eighty two on a

1441
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:53,920
schedule of one hundred events, So there's a ton of

1442
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,199
stuff that's afterwards.

1443
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1444
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,279
Speaker 1: One of the ones, like if I were to play,

1445
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,640
is like that three K mid Stakes Championship that looks amazing,

1446
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,800
but you know, I'm just going to pass on it.

1447
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:05,239
On the stuff post main event, it's to me, it's

1448
01:11:05,239 --> 01:11:07,479
you build up to the main event, you put everything

1449
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,479
into the main event, and then you're.

1450
01:11:09,279 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: Just you're done well.

1451
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 2: For me, I really don't know what we're doing work wise,

1452
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,119
so it's always gonna be TVD. But last year I

1453
01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:21,840
only played a bullet in the in the the Colossus

1454
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,800
and then the main event, and we missed the Tag

1455
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,600
Team right last year. So the only event I definitely

1456
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,479
want to play again is the Tag Team, so make

1457
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:31,520
sure that's in your schedule.

1458
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: And then I.

1459
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 2: Do like these turbo flights that they did add for

1460
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,680
the Mystery Millions, So chance, I'll play that, So I'm

1461
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,279
on the hook for anywhere everte.

1462
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: You do realize in a mystery buying tournament, like you

1463
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:46,239
have to bust people like you.

1464
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: Know he's gonna make the.

1465
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: That has to like that's how you should play, right, Like.

1466
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm there for the mean cash. You know, I'll take the.

1467
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: Mid cash tournament when they take a person chunk of

1468
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:00,600
the buying out. What are you doing?

1469
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,119
Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm I'm not a big fan of

1470
01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:04,680
mister boundies either.

1471
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: If I was going to play one, I was going

1472
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,960
to play one to play.

1473
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I don't know what's going with

1474
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,720
work yet, but tag team is the real one I

1475
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,800
want to play. And then obviously hopefully the main event again,

1476
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:18,960
so much.

1477
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: Less from the main event of course, So yeah, we'll see,

1478
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,239
we'll see. We'll see players on a budget.

1479
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: What do you guys picked out a couple of weekends that.

1480
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 2: Or two weekends and a midweek thing that I think

1481
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,079
players that you know don't have too much money, but

1482
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:39,920
they want to taste get that taste of the WSP

1483
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,720
this year when they should come first. One May thirtieth

1484
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,239
to thirty first Saturday Sunday, you can play one e

1485
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,000
and there's also a one f the Turbo nine fight

1486
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:52,479
at the five fifty minstery millions.

1487
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: Day two's on the Sunday.

1488
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,239
Speaker 2: If you bust that or even if you cash, you

1489
01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:58,560
got a six hundred no limbit deep stack the next

1490
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,199
day on that Sunday. That's a two day event. So

1491
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:03,960
basically you book a trip for three days. You know,

1492
01:13:04,079 --> 01:13:06,680
you can spend anywhere and we'll call it fifteen hundred

1493
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,960
bucks on Torona bayens and I think those are two

1494
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,279
pretty good events. If you're looking a little bit later

1495
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,079
in the series, we're going to go down to June thirteenth,

1496
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:18,239
fourteenth weekend. You can get a fight end at the

1497
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:23,600
Colossus right day two d is on the Sunday. Then

1498
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,600
you can also play just like that last weekend, you

1499
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,159
got that eight hundred dollars deep sack. Now two days

1500
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:31,359
of that, so basically June thirteenth to fifteenth, you know

1501
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,399
you can get what are we going to call that,

1502
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,279
you know, eighteen hundred bucks maybe twenty three hundred dollars

1503
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:42,359
there to get your fix, and then another kind of

1504
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,039
three day period during the week so that's good for

1505
01:13:46,119 --> 01:13:49,720
hotel rates. June thirtieth to basically July second, you can

1506
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,119
play day one. See the mini main event Day two

1507
01:13:52,199 --> 01:13:55,239
is on July first. That doesn't go you, well, well

1508
01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:58,319
you've got that six hundred deep Sack Championship that's got

1509
01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:01,640
two starting flights on July first, July second.

1510
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:02,399
Speaker 1: Uh.

1511
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,279
Speaker 2: And also you know if those don't go to well,

1512
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:07,720
you've got that eight hundred dollars Summer celebration starting on

1513
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,680
July second. So I think that's a nice little stretch there.

1514
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,640
And look, you come out, maybe you play one of

1515
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,600
the the Vega satellites at night for the main event

1516
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,880
main events side July second, extend your trip a little bit.

1517
01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:22,279
So I think those are kind of three good spots

1518
01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:25,720
for people, you know, basically looking to spend basically you know,

1519
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,479
two thousand dollars or less on tournament buyings.

1520
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:32,079
Speaker 1: And then this is this is all speaking to this

1521
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:37,159
without knowing the win correct, Yes, yes, yes, Aurea resort,

1522
01:14:37,279 --> 01:14:40,119
like we don't know any of the schedules yet, you know,

1523
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:43,159
once once the DOSB schedule drops. I know a lot

1524
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,399
of those people or those a lot of those other operators,

1525
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:48,399
they have kind of tentative plans, you know, and now

1526
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:51,279
it's just moving all the puzzle pieces around. So I'm

1527
01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:54,760
assuming you're gonna get another big win Summer Classic or

1528
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,760
whatever they call it in the summer. I'm assuming you're

1529
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:02,199
gonna get another big series, which I think is actually

1530
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,319
on the Venetian website, like just in terms of like

1531
01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:08,800
dates already, and that might come with a WPT event

1532
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,000
like it has before. I know the WPT is at

1533
01:15:11,079 --> 01:15:12,800
Venetian right now, but maybe you also get a Summer

1534
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,479
one and then the Aria and you know, partnered with

1535
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,399
bet MGM. You know, they had a handful of those

1536
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,159
events as well. So you know, Resorts World usually throws

1537
01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:24,399
their hat in the ring, you know, so you're gonna

1538
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:26,199
get a lot of the other stuff around town. So

1539
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,319
in terms of like best bang for your buck in

1540
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:33,840
a smaller window of time, maybe that kind of changes

1541
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,880
based on what other people have offering, you know. But yeah,

1542
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:39,439
just kind of speaking right now to everything that's being

1543
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,439
offered at the WSOP.

1544
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,159
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I also picked out a kind of

1545
01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:46,199
a nice window if you've got a little bit more money.

1546
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:49,479
We'll call it six thousand bucks, you know, a month

1547
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,359
of work for some people, But basically June thirtieth to

1548
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,039
July eighth, you know, you're going to get one C

1549
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:57,119
of that mini main event. You're gonna get one A,

1550
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:00,199
one B of the six hundred deep Sack Championship. You've

1551
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:03,760
got that eight hundred dollars Summer Celebration, that's a two

1552
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,720
day event with two starting flights. That's going to be

1553
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,359
a bit of a kind of turbo event. You got

1554
01:16:08,399 --> 01:16:10,119
a one K no limit hold them. That's a two

1555
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,119
day event. And then you have Day one ABC of

1556
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:16,000
the Ultra Stack six hundred dollars Ultra Stack. So basically

1557
01:16:16,039 --> 01:16:19,800
that's fifteen hundred dollars in buy ins, you know, not

1558
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,079
accounting cashes or you know, lots of re entries, et cetera.

1559
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,640
And then obviously that's overlapping the first four days in

1560
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,119
the main event. So like I said previously, you know,

1561
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,439
you have the potential to play some five hundred or

1562
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,920
one thousand dollars satellites to try and to get in

1563
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,359
the main event. And we always see you know some

1564
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:42,000
big ten twenty you know seat guarantees running on property

1565
01:16:42,199 --> 01:16:44,560
over that you probably have a twenty five C scramble

1566
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,439
on WSP dot com somewhere there too. So yeah, that's

1567
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,039
another good, another little good stretch. You know, if you're

1568
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:53,920
spending you know about that six thousand dollars. But yeah,

1569
01:16:54,039 --> 01:16:56,760
like like you said, we'll have to wait till Venetian

1570
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,560
comes out and Aria and you know MGM grew Golden

1571
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,319
Nugget resorts at all these places are going to have

1572
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,600
a schedule that fits around this. So you know, if

1573
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,560
you want to not be at the WSP and you know,

1574
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,600
you can get your fix anywhere. I do a lot

1575
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,399
of single day stuff, a lot of mystery bounties. You know,

1576
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,039
Venetia are probably going to have their more multi day

1577
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:22,279
kind of lower buying events, and then Winners obviously going

1578
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:24,800
to stand out with a whole range of events, you know,

1579
01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:28,199
the most tables of both of those rooms, and you

1580
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:30,239
know you're gonna have everything from four hundred dollars all

1581
01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:33,119
the way up to probably twenty five k high rollers.

1582
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:36,199
So uh yeah, it's a waiting game. But if you're

1583
01:17:36,199 --> 01:17:39,000
looking just WSP specific, you want to chase that gold bracelet,

1584
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:40,840
then those are kind of some windows that we think

1585
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,119
will be pretty pretty good.

1586
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: As always, if you guys have any thoughts, questions, suggestions,

1587
01:17:49,239 --> 01:17:51,600
things we didn't hit on, think things you think were

1588
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,680
wrong on as it relates to the WSPY schedule. You

1589
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,640
guys can find us on Twitter Donnie Underscore, Peters as Mine,

1590
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,119
Tim Underscore Underscore, Duckworth is his. You can also email

1591
01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:06,600
the show podcast at pokergrow dot com. We will either

1592
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,720
touch on them, you know, here on the show, or

1593
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,880
we'll just get back to you privately. Either way, always

1594
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,000
good to hear from the fans out there, hear from

1595
01:18:15,079 --> 01:18:17,319
the listeners, hear from the players that are that are

1596
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:18,760
coming out and they're going to be gambling. You know,

1597
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
what weekends are you targeting? You know, what do you

1598
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,000
wish that they put on the schedule? What are you hating?

1599
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:25,600
Do we have any limit holding players out there that

1600
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960
are pissed if they dropped the three K you know,

1601
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:28,760
all that good stuff.

1602
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: I have some shootouts specialists.

1603
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, shootout specialists. I mean that event always was really

1604
01:18:33,079 --> 01:18:35,640
well attended, Like it's I I never really kind of

1605
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,359
cared for it, but just in terms of playing, but

1606
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,399
it certainly, you know, you can't not recognize the fact

1607
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,199
that it was a very popular event and a lot

1608
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:44,640
of people were like, yeah, I'm gonna play the shoot

1609
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,079
I'm gonna come pay the shootout. So I think people

1610
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:49,960
just like the idea that I don't know. It seems

1611
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:52,680
like a daunting task to go from let's say two

1612
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,000
thousand players down to one. But in a shootout you're like, oh,

1613
01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,720
I only have to win my table. Yeah, the table,

1614
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,359
and then I'm there, like you know, Like so that's

1615
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:03,960
what people were going at with that. All right, Well

1616
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,359
that's gonna do it for us for Tim Duckworth. My

1617
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,239
name is Donny Peters. Also shout out producer rich Ryan.

1618
01:19:09,359 --> 01:19:11,199
Thanks for all the help that you do on the

1619
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:14,039
backside of the editing and all that good stuff. And

1620
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:16,279
until next time. We'll talk to you guys later.

1621
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 3: So you've express