Speaker 1: I was talking to my much younger colleagues the other day,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to describe something offensive.
Speaker 2: When you have to refer to younger people as your colleagues.
Speaker 1: Isn't it much younger?
Speaker 2: I will not call them my.
Speaker 1: Peers, aha, my co workers, people who also work in
Speaker 1: the building where I work. And I was trying to describe, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not And then I was like, like, the word
Speaker 1: I was looking for was something like entry level, like
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not I'm not starting out like I'm
Speaker 1: in my career. I'm in the middle of it. So
Speaker 1: I was trying to get to that point, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't quite think of the word that I wanted, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm not. Oh what's the word?
Speaker 1: And then they all tried to quote unquote helpful. Oh no,
Speaker 1: fill in the blanks. And here are some of the
Speaker 1: things that my colleagues shouted in my face. Yuppy? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Am I a yuppy? They think I'm poor?
Speaker 1: Or do they think I'm a yuppie? What both ways
Speaker 1: is bad? I don't like either one of those. Then
Speaker 1: someone else shouted picky, and like, what is Like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm not picky, am I am? I in the public
Speaker 2: square for a stoning, and.
Speaker 1: Then the worst one. I cannot this fucking gen Zer
Speaker 1: looked me right in the face and went spring Chicken.
Speaker 2: No no, and I burned the building down, as you
Speaker 2: should have. That's why you sent me that text for Kerosene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I'm glad, you know what. I'm glad I was
Speaker 2: there for you.
Speaker 1: Chicken.
Speaker 2: You should have taken Tillie's face and shoved it right
Speaker 2: into her desk. You should have made her eat those words.
Speaker 2: You should have written spring Chicken on a post it
Speaker 2: one letter per posted in every single one down the gullet.
Speaker 1: It was a guy.
Speaker 2: Now he needs to be fired.
Speaker 1: Hey, Paul, America, and this is that aged well, yesterday's
Speaker 1: pop culture today you got through it. You're trying too hard.
Speaker 3: You're trying.
Speaker 2: I put a hand gesture on it.
Speaker 1: It was like the more you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, the more you age, Erica. It's January. It's
Speaker 2: the end of January. We're doing nighttime soap operas.
Speaker 1: Because it's the shortest days of the year, so it's
Speaker 1: time to celebrate the night. It was good. Thank you
Speaker 1: got off the top of the head. Off the old
Speaker 1: nuggin y good you see you're not.
Speaker 2: You you are spring Chicken. Before we get to today's soap, though,
Speaker 2: we do have some five star Apple podcast reviews.
Speaker 1: Shall I read the first? Sure? All right?
Speaker 2: So this is from Chrissy Mack and Christy Max says,
Speaker 2: don't tempt me with a good time.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love they right. I thought about withholding this review
Speaker 2: until we got an animated robin Hood episode, but here
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like I like being like threatened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, and also that animated robin Hood episode. Oh,
Speaker 2: I better rested the day before. We can only record
Speaker 2: one episode that day because I'm going to be spent
Speaker 2: rested and hydrated exactly.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I was home last weekend and my animated robin Hood
Speaker 2: came up and my mother out of clear blue sky,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you mean how Paul knew he
Speaker 2: was gay?
Speaker 1: And Grandma's like, you're gay? Just kidding his Grandma's dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 2: Christy Mack goes on, I can't remember how I found
Speaker 2: this podcast, but I'm so glad I did. It makes
Speaker 2: me laugh and think and I love both of those activities. Cute,
Speaker 2: very nice, Thank you Chrissy mac Chrissy Mack, you are
Speaker 2: a gentlewoman and a scholarress.
Speaker 1: Our second review comes from Misty Dawn forty five. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I'm that just evokes that name
Speaker 1: evokes like an eighties hair rock, like heart Barracuda. We're
Speaker 1: all wearing chiffon.
Speaker 2: I all see the leg warmers and the high part leotar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're Laura Brannigan. We're singing that song. I'm into
Speaker 1: this name. Misty down forty five rights amazing that Aged
Speaker 1: Well is the best podcast you will ever listen to.
Speaker 2: No Lies Detected.
Speaker 1: Paul and Erica are wildly entertaining, and we'll have you
Speaker 1: laughing and sometimes crying the entire time.
Speaker 2: Someone listened to Drop Dead Friends literally like.
Speaker 1: A drop dead bread. With each episode, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with my besties having the best time.
Speaker 1: They are just what the doctor ordered. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you that is the perfect review to read for this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just what the doctor ordered for your mental health.
Speaker 2: Oh that's very nice, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Misty don forty four. Now go find your magic man.
Speaker 2: Try to understand, mama, Try to understand. He's a magic
Speaker 2: He's a magic man. He's got magic hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't that seriously? Misty Down? Oh yeah
Speaker 1: that she is playing an electric guitar on top of
Speaker 1: the roof of a classic car. Yeah. She's dressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's head to toe in black chiffon making it work. Yes,
Speaker 1: the hair is huge, Yes, but the best huge?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely absolutely all right, Chrissy Mack Misty Down forty five,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for those reviews. If you would
Speaker 2: like you're that age, well, tope bag. All you need
Speaker 2: to do is claim it. Let us know this is you.
Speaker 2: I will send it off for you. Erica, what nighttime
Speaker 2: soap are we talking about? On this the grand finale
Speaker 2: of our January twenty twenty five Excursion.
Speaker 1: Today's show is the medical soap opera.
Speaker 2: Er Er was requested by Kay by Sojoe, by Miggi,
Speaker 2: by Kelly, by Shannon, by Teresa and by our patrons Erica.
Speaker 2: We pulled Er against Ali McBeal.
Speaker 1: Yes, doctors versus lawyer, doctors versus lawyers?
Speaker 2: What do you want to hear? And this was fun
Speaker 2: to watch. Let me tell you something. First Ali was ahead,
Speaker 2: then George Cloning Company were ahead, then it switched back.
Speaker 2: Ultimately er one fifty three percent to forty seven percent. Wow,
Speaker 2: is a real squeaker, mister em a squeaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have guessed Ali McBeal would when I
Speaker 1: would not have guessed ER.
Speaker 2: I thought Allan mcbeil was gonna take it in a walk, honestly,
Speaker 2: not that R isn't. I mean, I spoiler alert. I
Speaker 2: didn't really watch R, but like it. It seemed like
Speaker 2: Ali mcbeil was going to be sillier, which I feel
Speaker 2: like the patrons usually go for, but they went for R.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so here we are if which is this
Speaker 1: one's a little silly.
Speaker 2: I suspect a lot of R is a little silly.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll just talk about it now. There
Speaker 1: are some episodes where so it's like Gray's Anatomy but
Speaker 1: before Grey's Anatomy, where like just so much happens in
Speaker 1: an episode you're like, oh my god, this hospital is
Speaker 1: gonna get like raided by pirates. Like I'm just waiting
Speaker 1: for the episode when like someone bursts through on.
Speaker 2: A jet pack, someone kool aid Man's.
Speaker 1: Through steals a baby and then flies off into space
Speaker 1: with it. Like there's too much happening at this fucking Er.
Speaker 2: All right, so Er was created by Michael Crichton. Ever
Speaker 2: heard of him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's funny. I would not. I guess he
Speaker 1: would be annoyed at us calling this is soap. Probably
Speaker 1: would be my guest. Yeah uh.
Speaker 2: Er aired on NBC from nineteen ninety four to two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. We will be discussing specifically season three
Speaker 2: episode fifteen, The Long Way Around, which was written by
Speaker 2: Lydia Woodward. Er stars Anthony Edwards, George Clooney, Noah Wiley,
Speaker 2: Juliana Margulize, Gloria Rubin, Laura Ennis, and Eric Lasal, most
Speaker 2: of whom will not be appearing in this episode.
Speaker 1: But you know who is, Ewen fucking McGregor.
Speaker 2: Ewan McGregor is appearing in this episode.
Speaker 1: Case you're wondering why we picked this episode, I saw
Speaker 1: the words Ewan McGregor and went that one.
Speaker 2: It starts with a you and it ends with one McGregor.
Speaker 1: Hah. Er was nominated for ae hundred and twenty four
Speaker 1: Emmy Awards over the course of its run. It won
Speaker 1: twenty three of those, including Outstanding Supporting Actress in a
Speaker 1: Drama for Juliana Marghalese. In nineteen ninety five and Outstanding
Speaker 1: Drama in nineteen ninety six. She is so good. This
Speaker 1: is basically a Juliana Margolize episode, and she's very good.
Speaker 1: She's very very good.
Speaker 2: Started as a screenplay in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: Four, Holy Moly.
Speaker 2: After producers showed no interest, Crichton moved on. He wrote
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park, and after filming that movie A one, Steven
Speaker 2: Spielberg brought the original script to Ambulant Entertainment and eventually
Speaker 2: got it produced as a two hour pilot on NBC.
Speaker 1: I kind of remember that. I kind of remember like
Speaker 1: the buzz around Steven Spielberg's gonna dip his toe into television.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal er. Also, I'm trying to imagine
Speaker 1: what an er would have looked like in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: four versus like when they actually made it in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, where they were like, oh no, we have
Speaker 1: a multiple gunshot run victim. I guess just you know,
Speaker 1: rub this, rub this crystal over him if it heals him.
Speaker 1: What was medicine back then?
Speaker 2: I think it was just leeches.
Speaker 1: Er. Season one has an eighty three percent critical rating
Speaker 1: on Rotten Tomatoes, and season two has a one hundred
Speaker 1: percent critical rating. Yeah, some of those critics came correct.
Speaker 1: That's right after season one. The show as a whole
Speaker 1: has an eighty five percent audience score. I think that's fair,
Speaker 1: But I think all those fair. I even think the
Speaker 1: one hundred percent critical reading is fair. I remember when
Speaker 1: this came out. It was audacious. It was trying new things.
Speaker 1: They were trying really wacky things, Like they had a
Speaker 1: whole episode that was live, like filmed live, and then
Speaker 1: they did two versions, one of the East Coast and
Speaker 1: one of the West coast, and like this episode that
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: They brought in a movie star to do this like
Speaker 1: bottle episode basically with one of the characters on the show.
Speaker 1: They filmed it in what actually looks like Chicago and
Speaker 1: not like a set in Los Angeles. They just did
Speaker 1: a lot on this show. I think it was pretty cool,
Speaker 1: like the amount of shit they tried absolutely and made.
Speaker 2: Work all right, Erica, when did you first see er I.
Speaker 1: Watched it from the beginning. I did not watch the
Speaker 1: whole show. I had no idea it ran this long
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Fifteen years, that's bunkers. Yeah, I remember watching
Speaker 1: the first I don't know, two seasons, and then I
Speaker 1: probably crapped out after that. Because it's also a time
Speaker 1: in my life when like I didn't care about watching
Speaker 1: TV the way I do now where I have to
Speaker 1: watch every episode of a show that I like I
Speaker 1: could dip in and out. Well. Yeah, also, like I
Speaker 1: didn't care, I didn't record things back then, so it's
Speaker 1: like if you missed an episode, you missed an episode,
Speaker 1: big deal.
Speaker 2: I also think like back then, because of the different
Speaker 2: model for TV, the writers knew you might miss an episode,
Speaker 2: like it was it wasn't expected that you would watch
Speaker 2: every single one. Probably they knew like if we get
Speaker 2: them fifteen out of twenty two episodes, they should be
Speaker 2: able to basically get the story.
Speaker 1: Especially a show like this where which is like basically
Speaker 1: every episode revolves around some medical disaster and there's a
Speaker 1: few running threads throughout the show, like today's episode has
Speaker 1: a running thread. But I didn't feel like I missed anything,
Speaker 1: Like they gave me. They gave me the backstory in
Speaker 1: the beginning, and I'm like done, got it, got all
Speaker 1: the information I need? Yeah, Paul, when did you first seer?
Speaker 2: Never have I seen this show?
Speaker 1: No way, that's I can't believe that's bonkers because it
Speaker 1: was so ubiquitous, and then it made George Clooney into
Speaker 1: a fucking stratospheric level star.
Speaker 2: I just remember immediately being like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: watch that, Like I had no interest in medical medical shows.
Speaker 1: The only medical show I've ever watched even a little.
Speaker 2: Bit as Grey's Anatomy, because when Grey's Anatomy came out,
Speaker 2: it was such a pop culture phenomenon, and I was
Speaker 2: a little older then.
Speaker 1: I think this was just as big a pop phenomenon,
Speaker 1: if not maybe more. It's just we were too young.
Speaker 1: We were too young. Yeah, yeah, but I really remember
Speaker 1: the whole Steven Spielberg thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when when Grey's Namy came out, I
Speaker 2: think I watched it for maybe like I'm gonna generously
Speaker 2: say three seasons, and then I was like, I'm done,
Speaker 2: and it remains airing to this day.
Speaker 1: It will be, it will it will be here afterward day.
Speaker 1: It sure will be. So you've never seen a medical
Speaker 1: should you ever watch Scrubs?
Speaker 2: I did watch. I should say I never saw a
Speaker 2: medical drama. I watched some Scrubs, but not religiously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch it religiously here, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I bet you've seen something you just don't remember.
Speaker 2: Yah, Scrubs or I watched I'm watching Saint Dennis Medical
Speaker 2: on NBC Now with Wendy Mclinton Covey and Alison Tolman, which.
Speaker 1: Is very cute.
Speaker 2: Medical stuff in the drama sense doesn't interest me. I'm
Speaker 2: very like, the world is harsh enough. I don't need
Speaker 2: to watch people cry over losing patients every four seconds.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, and I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: understand the human body is fragile. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see how fragile a makeup artists can make it look
Speaker 2: like I am good on all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Did you have any like like when this
Speaker 1: show was airing? Was it part of the I mean,
Speaker 1: do you like did you know who Noah Wyley was?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I knew who all the lead actors were.
Speaker 1: I only mentioned Wiley specifically because he was like, genuinely
Speaker 1: nobody before the show started. I think he was a
Speaker 1: theater guy, and he and George Clooney were the two
Speaker 1: hot ones. Well, Eric Lasoul would disagree, right, But then
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards stands are angry. No, genuinely, Eric Lasol is
Speaker 1: the hot one. Well yeah, clearly the hot one on
Speaker 1: the show. That's what I'm just curious, like if it
Speaker 1: pervaded the pop culture? Oh absolutely, you still knew who
Speaker 1: these actors were, got it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Erica. The tagline for er was there was
Speaker 2: no tagline. How happy does that make you?
Speaker 1: This show is too good for the tagline? And I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree with I concur? Do you concur? Doctor?
Speaker 2: Maybe the tagline should have.
Speaker 1: Been beepp Oh no, they got a back. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I almost interrupted you there. I'm no, No, he's
Speaker 1: going somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm picturing a tagline where it's like it's like whoever
Speaker 2: whenever however, but the er at each one is like
Speaker 2: R no matter, no matter what, no matter. When you
Speaker 2: need help whenever, the eer, the doctors at whatever this
Speaker 2: hospital is called.
Speaker 1: Chicago Hospital General probably will.
Speaker 2: Be there for you. Shall I read the iTunes synopsis?
Speaker 1: Sure? Okay?
Speaker 2: The iTunes synopsis is, although she is suspended from work,
Speaker 2: Carol experiences a busy day when she and a store
Speaker 2: full of customers are taken hostage. She helps the victims
Speaker 2: while the hostages are still there that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: That should be helps the victims while the burglars are
Speaker 2: still there. I'm checking myself.
Speaker 1: Hang on, Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back. I am not wrong.
Speaker 1: These people are wrong.
Speaker 2: She helps the victims while the hostages are still there
Speaker 2: is what it says on the iTunes synopsis. The victims
Speaker 2: are the hostages. Those are those are synonyms.
Speaker 1: Yes, she should say it should say she helps the
Speaker 1: victims while the burglars are still there. The perpetrators, the perpetrators,
Speaker 1: the robbers, the robbers, the Scottish rogues.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you've dipped into the romantic side of it.
Speaker 1: Ha ha.
Speaker 2: Okay, Erica, do you have an actual synopsis for this
Speaker 2: episode of er The.
Speaker 1: Actual sickness is Stockholm syndrome. Yes, yes, yes, I get yes,
Speaker 1: because that is that is what's gonna take Carol down.
Speaker 1: Why does she care? Why did she care so much
Speaker 1: much about this asshole?
Speaker 2: You want to know why? Because she also took an
Speaker 2: oath on nurses Outh, so dish, so.
Speaker 1: Dish, so fish reference. I love it, I love it.
Speaker 1: I did that Nurses House, Nurses South.
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Speaker 1: Previously on ER, Juliana Margulize gave someone the wrong blood.
Speaker 1: Gloria Rubin doesn't want a second date. Juliana Margley's is
Speaker 1: not looking for any special favors from you, Laura Innes.
Speaker 1: George Clooney has to intubate a patient, but Clia du
Speaker 1: valt Cla du Val, holy shit, I missed that says
Speaker 1: the patient doesn't want to be put on a machine.
Speaker 1: Juliana Margley should probably go to the Sun Times herself
Speaker 1: because she could potentially lose her job. Why I don't care.
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is wearing a turtleneck. No Wiley is gonna
Speaker 1: take very good care of a patient. And Jamie Gertz,
Speaker 1: you hurt me, Jamie fucking Gertz was on this show
Speaker 1: tells Anthony Edwards to snap a rubber band on his
Speaker 1: wrist anytime he has the urge date three women at once.
Speaker 2: I guess that puts a pin in what I was
Speaker 2: saying on who the hot one is, because apparently this
Speaker 2: is the stud.
Speaker 1: Apparently Anthony Edwards is getting all the pussy on this show.
Speaker 2: Real snatch Magnet.
Speaker 1: Real snatch Magnet that Anthony Edwards. Almost none of this
Speaker 1: has anything to do with what we're about to watch.
Speaker 1: My favorite television show of all time is the previously
Speaker 1: on yours. If you watch a super cut of them,
Speaker 1: they are the funniest thing really anyone has yet because
Speaker 1: they're all insane. They're all like like genuinely, they're all
Speaker 1: like pirates have taken over the er.
Speaker 2: They're all like the astronauts going to land on the roof.
Speaker 2: We have to get up there to get to intubate them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been four bombs put inside three puppies, but
Speaker 1: we have seven puppies. We don't know which ones have
Speaker 1: bombs in them. Just bonkers, honestly, though, the problem is
Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy has really upped the ante. Yeah, almost nothing
Speaker 1: they could put on ear could be as dumb as
Speaker 1: half the shit there.
Speaker 2: There actually was a man with a bomb in his
Speaker 2: chest on Gray's Natomy, Like that happened. They saved a
Speaker 2: deer ones like they've gone there, They've gone there. They
Speaker 2: just haven't thought of pirates yet. They have the actual answer.
Speaker 1: Yes, and er so hard.
Speaker 2: So we open on Carol Hathaway played by Juliana Margalize,
Speaker 2: as a phone call from her mother wakes her up
Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day. She is currently serving her suspension for
Speaker 2: accidentally transfusing the wrong blood into a patient, possibly causing
Speaker 2: his death. It is unclear, according to Wikipedia, if this
Speaker 2: was the actual cause or if he would have died regardless.
Speaker 1: Because of his injuries.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's what she is referring to in the
Speaker 2: opening when she's like, I should just go to the
Speaker 2: Sun Times and report myself because I don't want special treatment.
Speaker 2: I'm noble, I'm Carol, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Her apartment is depressing well again, right.
Speaker 2: Why don't they turn on the goddamn lights because.
Speaker 1: She's depressed, Paul, she's too depressed to buy milk, doesn't
Speaker 1: she hasn't left her bed in days, but also her
Speaker 1: apartment itself. I'm like, nurses, Look, they're not the best
Speaker 1: paid profession.
Speaker 2: They should be. They should they should be.
Speaker 1: Paid ten times whatever they're getting paid.
Speaker 2: It should be public school teachers, nurses, and then everyone else,
Speaker 2: and then everyone else.
Speaker 1: However, she does not make minimum wage. Girl, what are
Speaker 1: you doing with that apartment? That is the saddest apartment
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: So Carol wakes up because her mother calls her, and
Speaker 2: she starts going through her morning routine. She reaches she's
Speaker 2: talking to her mom, and mom was like, let's go
Speaker 2: to the mall, blah blah blah. She's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I have stuff to do. She reached into the refrigerator.
Speaker 2: She takes out it's a carton of milk. She can
Speaker 2: see through it, and she like dumps it out and
Speaker 2: there's almost nothing left. And then she looks like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, you knew there wasn't anything in there.
Speaker 1: You held it in your hand.
Speaker 2: And then she goes back and she takes out the
Speaker 2: orange juice, which now she can't see through it but
Speaker 2: you can feel it, and she opens it she dumps out.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, there's nothing in this either. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is happening.
Speaker 1: Did you were you worried she was gonna mix them?
Speaker 1: I thought she was gonna mix She didn't mix them. No, no,
Speaker 1: she put them in two different glasses.
Speaker 2: She absolutely did not. No, it was the same glass.
Speaker 1: I recall two glasses. I recall two glasses. Paul, Are
Speaker 1: we gonna have to go back to pause again? It's
Speaker 1: the second pause of this episode. We're pausing.
Speaker 3: Got a.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're back. We're back, Paul, Yes, what what what happened? Report?
Speaker 1: Report on what happened? Erica was right? There were two glasses? No, no, No,
Speaker 1: fast slower Paul, Say it's lower. It does happen rarely.
Speaker 1: We should pull this out, We should draw this out.
Speaker 1: Say it's slower? What what? What happened exactly during this?
Speaker 1: Erica was correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, glasses.
Speaker 1: You would one say that you were wrong?
Speaker 2: I was then wrong.
Speaker 1: You were wrong. That's the that's the that's what happens, right,
Speaker 1: That's the inverse of my being correct, is your being wrong? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's okay. I just wanted to point that out to
Speaker 1: everyone that Paul, who watched the same episode that I did,
Speaker 1: just decided he wanted to create his own version, his
Speaker 1: own narrative.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Carol pours the two things into separate glasses,
Speaker 2: drinks one one of them, yeah, remember.
Speaker 1: Which one the rest?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and goes about her day. She throws on some
Speaker 2: winter clothes. She heads outside. She greets her neighbor's kid, Robert,
Speaker 2: on the street, and then she walks over to the
Speaker 2: Novotny family market, where we meet a lot of characters
Speaker 2: that are going to be important, none of whom are famous,
Speaker 2: except one who's quasi famous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So missus Novatni played by Ruth Malichek. She's the proprietor
Speaker 2: of the store with her husband Javier, played by Hector
Speaker 2: Fabregas Fabregas.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He is the stock boy. We see him walking in.
Speaker 2: He heads right back into the storeroom. Mister Douzac played
Speaker 2: by Jan Rubis. Rubis is an old guy with maybe
Speaker 2: like a Polish or Eastern European Okay, check accent.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's looking for ulcer medication for his wife. And did
Speaker 2: you notice Carol walks in and she hears him asking
Speaker 2: questions and she so stonewalls him. Yes, what about your
Speaker 2: nurse's mouth?
Speaker 1: I thought about that, actually, I wrote down in my notes.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's too depressed to help this guy
Speaker 1: with his ulcer medication.
Speaker 2: We meet Lockhart, who is a delivery guy. He's played
Speaker 2: by Mark Moratini. And we meet Angie played by the
Speaker 2: other quasi favous person, Marisol Nichols.
Speaker 1: She is a young school teacher.
Speaker 2: Angie is who they were talking about when anyone ever
Speaker 2: said she's got a mouth on her.
Speaker 1: I love Angelo. I call her Red scarf Lety through
Speaker 1: all my notescause I don't know anyone's names, and I'm
Speaker 1: like Red scarf Lady can hang. I fucking love rear.
Speaker 2: I love Red scarf Lady in every situation except the
Speaker 2: one in which we meet Red Scarf Lady, except the.
Speaker 1: Hostage situation where she gets real liippy. It's like, bitch,
Speaker 1: shut up. They have guns. As Carol walks to the
Speaker 1: back of the shop, is too depressed to help even
Speaker 1: anyone with their medication questions because the old man's like
Speaker 1: asking about ulcer medication to the guy who delivers the
Speaker 1: like bread and man, I deliver bread. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: a pharmacist. We see two men enter the shop and
Speaker 1: they start a stick up. They are James played by
Speaker 1: Kyrie Graham, and his Scottish cousin by international superstar Ewan McGregor.
Speaker 1: That's right, duncan dunk right.
Speaker 2: You called him a movie star before, and he definitely
Speaker 2: he had done trains ponding.
Speaker 1: By this point. He was a movie star by.
Speaker 2: Now, I did. I don't think he was a he
Speaker 2: was a movie actor. Like I'm just thinking about like
Speaker 2: how high his star has risen. All I mean to
Speaker 2: say is he was on the ascent.
Speaker 1: He was. I don't think he had peaked by any
Speaker 1: stretch of the I still don't think he's peaked, frankly, frankly,
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I disagree with that. I remember
Speaker 1: when this episode came out. I remember it was a
Speaker 1: big fucking deal that Ewan McGregor were on American television.
Speaker 1: I think he was a pretty big star. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: not like a huge star the way like a Tom
Speaker 1: Cruise or whatever, but he was a pretty big star
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I difficulty believing it only because of his haircut, which
Speaker 2: this is the.
Speaker 1: Same haircut he has in A Lifeless Ordinary, which makes
Speaker 1: me think he is filming the film A Lifeless Ordinary.
Speaker 2: During this it looks like a monkey cut his hair
Speaker 2: or a weed whacker. It is the I've never been
Speaker 2: less attracted to you and McGregor.
Speaker 1: It answers the question would I fuck the mad Hatter
Speaker 1: if he came out of the book and into real life,
Speaker 1: And the answer is a yes. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: about myself until I watched this. Do you know what? Fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Actually you know when I found that out. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the Emma that he's in. It's the one
Speaker 1: with Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: He's not the love interest Jeremy northm is, but he
Speaker 1: plays another like semi love interest in that film, and
Speaker 1: he genuinely looks like the mad Hatter and that like
Speaker 1: they gave him the worst wig ever.
Speaker 2: Now, does the mad Hatter need to have a Scottish
Speaker 2: progue for you to fuck him? He?
Speaker 1: Uh no, because he's British in that one, and I
Speaker 1: would absolutely fuck him in that one as well. But
Speaker 1: like I'm not exaggerating, he must have had the shaved
Speaker 1: head from Trainspotting still and so they had to give
Speaker 1: him a wig to play this role and he looks awful.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. So uh you and McGregor with his
Speaker 1: still fuckable haircut, I don't care I don't care, absolutely would.
Speaker 2: Do this haircut is the glasses that Rachel Lee Cook
Speaker 2: wore and she's all.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, just remove it, and suddenly he's hot, No,
Speaker 1: still hot. The situation escalates quickly. James grabs the money
Speaker 1: and Duncan waves his pistol around and shouts at everyone
Speaker 1: to get down. But it's Scottish, so they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what'd you say? You say?
Speaker 2: Get down?
Speaker 1: Get down? Like I'm sorry, we don't understand you with
Speaker 1: your big accent. What's happening. Just as they're about to leave,
Speaker 1: mister Novotny, the old man who owns the store, appears
Speaker 1: with a shotgun. Bro, just let them go. There's a
Speaker 1: brief standoff when another employee enters. Mister Navotany shouts at
Speaker 1: him to leave, and he flees right so oh oh,
Speaker 1: and James fires a shot at him in vain, and
Speaker 1: mister Nvotany shoots James, right, that's the American one. In retaliation,
Speaker 1: Duncan shoots mister Nevotane in the chest and then fires
Speaker 1: off a few more bullets, one of which breaks the
Speaker 1: hot coffee pot and it spills hot coffee and like
Speaker 1: glass yards all over Angie the school teacher's hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the lippy school teacher, the lyppy school teacher. Duncan heads
Speaker 1: to the door. He sees the employee who escaped already
Speaker 1: talking to the police, like literally ran down the street,
Speaker 1: was cops over there. There's a gunman in there also
Speaker 1: presumably everyone heard gunshots, right.
Speaker 2: Duncan and James try to go out the back, but
Speaker 2: the door is locked with a padlock. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: another door later. I don't know where this door leads
Speaker 2: if the other door, like, there can't be it's not
Speaker 2: that big of a market.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a door. It's locked with the padlock. Moving on,
Speaker 2: they head back in to try to find the keys
Speaker 2: on mister Novotny, who is dying actively as Missus Nevotney
Speaker 2: wails over him. It is important to point out that
Speaker 2: I'm not going to keep bringing it up, but like,
Speaker 2: for the next five to ten minutes of this of
Speaker 2: the show is probably five minutes, not a full ten minutes.
Speaker 2: The poor actress playing Missus Nevotney has to wail in
Speaker 2: the background over her husband's body. Just constant background siren
Speaker 2: of this woman like screaming for help.
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's really hard. I don't give enough credit
Speaker 1: to actors who come in to do these one like
Speaker 1: one and done the things, and like they're asked to
Speaker 1: do a lot because like what we see is three
Speaker 1: minutes or five minutes, and crying is like three days.
Speaker 1: Three days. Yeah, of crying and crying to.
Speaker 2: Get everyone coverage and yeah, yep, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: James nearly collapses from the gunshot wound and he says
Speaker 2: he needs help. He's like, oh, this gunshot wound because
Speaker 2: remember mister ravotany shot the American burglar, the non ewent
Speaker 2: McGregor burglar.
Speaker 1: Good shot, So fuck that guy, am I right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Carol, who's kind of crouching in the back, notices
Speaker 2: Robert that's her neighbor's kid, maybe like ten years old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's hiding under a pinball machine in the back of
Speaker 2: the market. And Duncan shouts that he wants everyone wants
Speaker 2: to stay where they are, and we roll credits.
Speaker 1: Was that Irish or Scottich?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's a stab at Scrooge McDuck. We come
Speaker 1: back to missus Nevotney's whales that her husband needs a doctor,
Speaker 1: and Duncan and James shout and wave their guns around.
Speaker 1: They're all freaked out, like this wasn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: Carol tries to tell Robert the little boy to hide
Speaker 1: under the crates, like keep stay hidden, stay hidden, don't
Speaker 1: let anyone like see you. But this only exposes him
Speaker 1: to Duncan.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This actually like was almost a little bit of a
Speaker 1: jump scar because it's the camera's tight on Juliana Margalli's
Speaker 1: and she's like, co go under the crates, and then
Speaker 1: you and McGregor's head just pops into frame and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: so what do we have here? Another hostage, and like shit,
Speaker 1: Duncan demands that the boy comes out from under his
Speaker 1: hiding place. The kid is obviously like just too afraid
Speaker 1: to move. He's paralyzed with fear. Eventually, Carol tells Robert
Speaker 1: to stay behind her, like come and stand behind me
Speaker 1: and you'll be okay, You'll be okay, and she coaxes
Speaker 1: the kid out. She's like the voice of calm in
Speaker 1: an otherwise deeply escalating situation. Meanwhile, the cops are surrounding
Speaker 1: the shop and like this this is getting.
Speaker 2: Worse and worse, So mister Nevotny and James continue to bleed.
Speaker 2: Carol stands up and she says, I took an oath
Speaker 2: a nurse his outh.
Speaker 1: I'm a nurse. Maybe I can help.
Speaker 2: She wants to help mister Nevotney, but the burglars demand
Speaker 2: that she cared for James first, even though mister Nevotney
Speaker 2: is clearly worse off, being quite a bit older and
Speaker 2: also shot in the chest and lying on the ground,
Speaker 2: whereas James still standing up and talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, James a shot kind of in the side, threw
Speaker 1: his ribs. Yeah, so that hurts like a bitch, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in better shape.
Speaker 2: So Carol goes to care for James and Duncan yells
Speaker 2: at her, take the kid with you, and she's like, well, no,
Speaker 2: he shouldn't see it, like there's obviously violence. Like he's like, no,
Speaker 2: he has to go to So I think the producers
Speaker 2: and the writers of the show are really relying on
Speaker 2: Ewan McGregor's inherent Ewan McGregor likableness to carry a lot
Speaker 2: of the plot on this show. And look, he does
Speaker 2: his level best, which is better than essentially anyone else
Speaker 2: on the planet could do like, I don't know who
Speaker 2: could do it better.
Speaker 1: I don't like duncan oh no me either. To be fair,
Speaker 1: it goes aways like honestly, like it goes a little
Speaker 1: bit of because there are moments when this show softens
Speaker 1: him a touch, but like not enough. We've seen this
Speaker 1: trope before, the inept gunman who's not really a bad guy,
Speaker 1: he just got caught up and blah blah blah. But like,
Speaker 1: this guy sucks. He's awful. He's really awful, and he's like,
Speaker 1: when given the chance to do the right thing, he
Speaker 1: will constantly do the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I and I keep look, this would have
Speaker 2: been a much simpler episode, but I expected them to
Speaker 2: have James, his American cousin will find out be the
Speaker 2: shitty one, be the shitty one, and he's the one
Speaker 2: who didn't really want to do it and he kind
Speaker 2: of got dragged along and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's not where it goes. They're both pretty in on this.
Speaker 2: They had differing plans, but neither one of them is
Speaker 2: like feeling super bad about everything that's going on, you know, yeah, which.
Speaker 1: Makes it a more interesting character.
Speaker 2: It just I think the balance got off because I
Speaker 2: don't think the end of the episode really lands for
Speaker 2: me emotionally.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when we'll get there. I have
Speaker 1: so many thoughts on that, unlike Carol's journey in this episode,
Speaker 1: because it's it's not that I think the audience is
Speaker 1: supposed to care about Duncan per se, but Carol does
Speaker 1: yes in a way that feels so unearned.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, yeah, why.
Speaker 1: Does she care if this guy lives or fucking dies?
Speaker 1: He waved a gun in her face for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, as Carol is caring for James, Duncan threatens Angie,
Speaker 2: that's sassy, Angie, lippy Angie, huh for moving, and she
Speaker 2: snaps back at him, I can't go anywhere. Why are
Speaker 2: you even bothering with me? And I'm like, girl, I will,
Speaker 2: I will shove a Maxi pad in your mouth myself.
Speaker 2: Don't anger the crazy person with the gun.
Speaker 1: She's carrying very hard, right, very hard. She's gonna ask
Speaker 1: Duncan to see his manager. As Carol assesses James, the
Speaker 1: phone starts to ring incessantly, right, and Duncan discovers that
Speaker 1: mister Doozak, the check guy, has also hurt his wrist,
Speaker 1: and he threatens Lockhart. The delivery guy did not get
Speaker 1: any ideas about being a hero and like the actors
Speaker 1: are really good. He's like, I'm just sitting here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like relax, I'm not gonna do anything. Carol assesses James
Speaker 1: and she says, look, he actually does really need to
Speaker 1: see a doctor sooner. He's gonna bleed to death. Like,
Speaker 1: I've done the best I can to patch this up.
Speaker 1: But he was shot with a shotgun. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: is deeply, deeply wounded. James is like, shut up and
Speaker 1: stop the bleeding, and she gathers as many supple lies
Speaker 1: from the stories she can to like start to dress
Speaker 1: the wound. Yeah right, she, as Paul writes here, she
Speaker 1: mcguiver's wound dressing with Maxi pads and tape.
Speaker 2: Yep, she does as good a job as I could do. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I'll say that right now better even yeah, and
Speaker 2: would say yeah. So Duncan demands that Lockhart help him
Speaker 2: barricade the door while shouting about how in America everyone
Speaker 2: has a job.
Speaker 1: Weird line, Okay, weird line.
Speaker 2: I was literally like, was there something happening in Scotland
Speaker 2: in whenever it's nineteen ninety seven. I guess in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six where they were going through some kind of.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. This didn't air in Scotland, is aired here, right,
Speaker 1: and it just still doesn't make any fucking sense.
Speaker 2: It's cool, well, because I think later they want it
Speaker 2: to be his motivating thing that he thinks Americans are
Speaker 2: all fat cats and like you know everyone it's it's
Speaker 2: the land where everyone gets everything they want or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so nothing else. He doesn't really hammer
Speaker 1: that home in any other part of the episode, though,
Speaker 1: does well.
Speaker 2: He talks about losing his job in Scotland, Like he
Speaker 2: talks a lot about employment and how he wound up here,
Speaker 2: and like I think they're trying to talk about like
Speaker 2: to be clear, I agree this is a gossamer, thin
Speaker 2: web I'm trying to spend, but I'm trying to come
Speaker 2: up with some like why did they put this line in?
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause it's so it's it's.
Speaker 2: Highlighted and it's very clear. And he like he has
Speaker 2: a longer little rant that ends with in America, everyone
Speaker 2: has a job because like, oh that the lippy AND's
Speaker 2: a school teacher. Oh everyone has a job, and it's
Speaker 2: it made me think there was some historical context that
Speaker 2: I was missing.
Speaker 1: Maybe not. Also, you know what now that you say it,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. He moved here
Speaker 1: to get a job, couldn't get a job, ends up
Speaker 1: doing this shit instead, Like that that all makes that
Speaker 1: actually all tracks. But also I don't think there you
Speaker 1: need to have historical context. It's just America's whole line, right,
Speaker 1: Our whole line is like land of opportunity, land of
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So that's that's what he's making fun of.
Speaker 1: I suppose, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Carol has done MAXI patting James's chest, so
Speaker 2: decide I should say not chest, and she moves on
Speaker 2: to help mister Navotne.
Speaker 1: She starts CPR.
Speaker 2: She tells Duncan that she needs help, he needs a doctor,
Speaker 2: like this guy is in really bad shape, and she says,
Speaker 2: you don't want mister Novotny to die. You shot him,
Speaker 2: and the cops are gonna get even angrier than they
Speaker 2: already are if this guy dies, because then you'll have
Speaker 2: killed him. So Duncan tells the other hostages to help
Speaker 2: Carol try to save this guy's life.
Speaker 1: M H cool.
Speaker 2: Cool, Well, if I'm gonna get in trouble, then yes,
Speaker 2: you can help her save his life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We jump slightly forward in time. Angie and missus Novotny
Speaker 1: are performing CPR while Carol gathers supplies for like a
Speaker 1: makeshift tracheotomy.
Speaker 2: Okay, why have I seen this so many times?
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I thought the same thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, why I have seen this? I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a thing that writers go to a
Speaker 1: lot because it's it's visually like you can see what's happening.
Speaker 2: And it's also incredibly chilling to think about as a
Speaker 2: person who's conscious and not in need of this life
Speaker 2: saving procedure. If I never see another tracheotomy makeshift or
Speaker 2: otherwise for the rest of my life, it will be
Speaker 2: too soon.
Speaker 1: Well, now, if I need a trachyonomy, I need to
Speaker 1: know you know how to perform one. I also had
Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, he was shot in
Speaker 1: the chest, what does he need a trichyonomy? I just
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna assume like there's medical things that
Speaker 1: I'm just not unaware of what's happening. So the phone
Speaker 1: is continuing to ring while the cops ask questions on
Speaker 1: a bullhorn outside, like how many hostages? What are your demands?
Speaker 1: All the normal cop questions. Carol manages to hear a
Speaker 1: pulse on mister Novotney, while Duncan snaps at James and
Speaker 1: it was his idea to rob the store, you idiot,
Speaker 1: James like, well I got mine, didn't I been shot?
Speaker 2: Duncan's like I said we should have come here when
Speaker 2: there weren't other people around him, Like, well the owner
Speaker 2: was the one who fucking shot you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like yeah, Gi Joe over there is someone who
Speaker 1: shot you. Carol continues to work on mister Novotney. She
Speaker 1: attempts to insert like a chest tube through his ribs.
Speaker 1: This is actually super interesting because you like, I close
Speaker 1: my eyes, so please tell me about it if you
Speaker 1: like her doing the job. The work of like counting
Speaker 1: the ribs from outside of his like shirt to be
Speaker 1: like five four Okay. Here in between these two she's
Speaker 1: saying it out loud. There's a small subplot that kind
Speaker 1: of gets introduced in this episode that Carol, a top
Speaker 1: of being suspended, is also she's she's trying to be
Speaker 1: a doctor, so she's studying for medical school. So she's
Speaker 1: deeply qualified to be doing some of this stuff right,
Speaker 1: much more than your your average jes.
Speaker 2: She's better than I would be. Let's I'll say.
Speaker 1: That right barely though, don't you know what, don't sell
Speaker 1: yourself short. I have seen you. I've seen you do
Speaker 1: a lot of tracheotomies. You've seen me chop up a
Speaker 1: piece of gar like, yeah, I've seen I've seen you.
Speaker 1: I've seen you attempt to insert a chest tube on
Speaker 1: many people, and you've almost never killed anyone, and.
Speaker 2: They never consent.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mostly I'm just a sleep. Man's cutting
Speaker 1: into my rib cage. So unfortunately, Carol does everything she can.
Speaker 1: It's a heroic effort, but it's too late. Mister Nevotney
Speaker 1: dies on the floor.
Speaker 2: Yep, so Duncan has Lockhart. That's the that's the delivery guy,
Speaker 2: the big delivery guy, the worried about because he's big drag.
Speaker 2: Mister Navotney's body the back room, which I gotta say,
Speaker 2: if I was that guy, like.
Speaker 1: Dragon yourself like, Carol.
Speaker 2: Accompanies them and while they're going back, Robert, that's the kid, Robert,
Speaker 2: it says, oh my god, I think I'm gonna be sick.
Speaker 1: Gonna be sick.
Speaker 2: So he gets permission to go to the bathroom. So
Speaker 2: he runs to the back into the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Here's a great line here where he's like, I'm gonna vomit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vomit, and like they're like, so vomit. And
Speaker 1: the teacher who teaches the elementary school is like, trust me,
Speaker 1: you don't want him vomiting here, and she says it
Speaker 1: with his haunted look in her eyes, like I've seen
Speaker 1: some shit.
Speaker 2: There was a story there. A good job, Maricel Nichols.
Speaker 2: I agree that was a great line reading. So in
Speaker 2: the back room, Carol again tries to reason with Duncan.
Speaker 2: She insists they have to get James to a hospital,
Speaker 2: and she's like, look, they'll go easy on you. You've never
Speaker 2: killed anyone before, and he demands, no, how do you
Speaker 2: know I haven't killed anybody? And she just looks at
Speaker 2: me and she says, you haven't, have you because she's
Speaker 2: recognizing his reaction to having killed mister Nevatney. Yep, they're
Speaker 2: inserting a lot of these shots of you and McGregor
Speaker 2: when he's not screaming and waving gun around, looking a
Speaker 2: little like shocked and horrified and horrified and like so
Speaker 2: like they I don't want to discount what the episode does.
Speaker 2: They do, show you the human underneath they do. It's
Speaker 2: just we'll get to the end, and we get to
Speaker 2: the end. But you're right, it's her reaction that is
Speaker 2: like really out of it's.
Speaker 1: A little over the top. Yeah, but these two actors
Speaker 1: were killing it. Oh lately, you're doing a This is
Speaker 1: a really good to hander for both of them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Duncan brings Lockhart the delivery guy back into the
Speaker 2: main area while Carol covers mister Navatni with the blanket,
Speaker 2: and as she goes to return to the store, Javier,
Speaker 2: the stock boy from the beginning, remember we said he
Speaker 2: walked right back into the storeroom, whispers to her from
Speaker 2: behind some shelves, and he tells her there's another door
Speaker 2: behind him, but it's locked. He can't get out through it,
Speaker 2: and he has a baseball bat and he wants to
Speaker 2: be a hero, and Carol's like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: fucking stay there. I'm going to try to get the
Speaker 2: keys and then at the very least you can get out.
Speaker 1: So outside in the store, in the main store, Duncan
Speaker 1: and James are now disagreeing over what they should demand
Speaker 1: from the cops. James wants an escape car and Duncan
Speaker 1: wants medical supplies to help James and like fix up
Speaker 1: everything that's going on. James starts to panic and he
Speaker 1: demands that Duncan restrain Lockhart with tape. There's a moment
Speaker 1: I'm missing something here, didn't Duncan. Didn't Lockhart try to
Speaker 1: do something like he was holding onto something. No, they
Speaker 1: just picking on the guy because he's big. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I remember them doing this, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember why. James is angry about Carol moving
Speaker 1: through the store. So James, who's like kind of like
Speaker 1: quickly losing blood and losing his like consciousness, is yelling
Speaker 1: and micromanaging Duncan. He's like, you are not handling this well.
Speaker 1: I need you to get your shit together and get
Speaker 1: these people under control. Tape the hands of the big
Speaker 1: guy so he doesn't try anything, and get that fucking
Speaker 1: lady to stop moving around the store and stop giving
Speaker 1: her all this free access to the space. As a manager,
Speaker 1: I have to say, James is doing a good job.
Speaker 1: He's not wrong. He's not wrong Duncan's like, she's just
Speaker 1: trying to help man.
Speaker 2: She's bringing like a frozen bag of peace or corn
Speaker 2: or whatever to Angie's hand because Angie was burned by
Speaker 2: the coffee pot and she's putting it on Angie's hand.
Speaker 2: Angie looks over and she's like, Yo, this wouldn't be
Speaker 2: necessary if you hadn't shot the coffee pot. And Carol's like, Angie.
Speaker 1: Angie, girl, baby girl, shut up, stfu, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Duncan seems to finally be chilling, ever so slightly. Could
Speaker 1: you not antagonize him further, please? I'm also angry at him.
Speaker 1: Put a lid on it. So Duncan and James start
Speaker 1: arguing again, and it becomes clear what Paul was saying earlier.
Speaker 1: Duncan wanted to knock over the store when there weren't
Speaker 1: any customers inside, and James insisted, now's the time, now's
Speaker 1: the time. Honestly, James was wrong. There's fucking the store's
Speaker 1: probably open till two am. Yeah, like rob it at
Speaker 1: one fifty eight p like, am what are you doing?
Speaker 1: While they spar Carol quietly asks missus Navotani where the
Speaker 1: keys to the back door are and missus n Botany
Speaker 1: tells her they're behind the counter. So now we have
Speaker 1: Chekhov's keys. We know where they are. Now we just
Speaker 1: have to wait for the moment this is Novai does try.
Speaker 1: She gets up, She's like, I need to get some
Speaker 1: aspirin for this man's wrist, and Duncan's like, it's on
Speaker 1: the shelf over there, don't go behind, Like he's directing
Speaker 1: her to where she should be going instead of where
Speaker 1: the keys are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Angie tells Duncan not to shoot the aspirin. This
Speaker 2: is such a weird it's such a weird thing that
Speaker 2: this is clearly the moment in the episode where the
Speaker 2: writers need something to happen and they so Angie is like, hey,
Speaker 2: why don't you try not to shoot the aspirin, your
Speaker 2: Scottish asshole.
Speaker 1: Should she be a teacher? I don't think she might be.
Speaker 1: Maybe she should be an insult comic. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining her being like you colored outside the lines,
Speaker 1: you dumb fuck her to some poor little kid.
Speaker 2: So this sends James into a kind of weird fugue state.
Speaker 1: Because he's losing blood, losing blood.
Speaker 2: Fast right, and he starts to laugh at the thought
Speaker 2: of Duncan shooting various things in the shop, like what
Speaker 2: if you shot the bread, what if you shot the magazines? Right,
Speaker 2: And he's laughing and Duncan tells him to shut up,
Speaker 2: and they start to go at each other. And then
Speaker 2: missus Navatni, who I think this actresses a really good job,
Speaker 2: Like she wails over her husband when she's trying to
Speaker 2: save him. Then he dies and she almost like just
Speaker 2: goes into like shock. Yeah, and then this happens and
Speaker 2: she stands up and she starts screaming at both of
Speaker 2: them that you killed my husband. He couldn't even speak,
Speaker 2: he couldn't say anything to me. He just died. I
Speaker 2: had to sit there, like she starts screaming at him.
Speaker 2: It's very well.
Speaker 1: Done, so affecting. Yeah, yeah, she's like, hey, could you
Speaker 1: two bosos acknowledged for a minute that you've ruined my life? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Duncan is upset because this old lady's yelling at him,
Speaker 1: which honestly fair.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't really have a response because she's uh,
Speaker 2: just checking, yeah, no lies detected.
Speaker 1: There, so correct. So he decides that Robert has had
Speaker 1: enough time to vomit in the bathroom. He's like, I
Speaker 1: got to change the subjects. Look over there, what's that
Speaker 1: kids fucking doing in the bathroom? And he goes to
Speaker 1: the back and he starts banging on the door. Get
Speaker 1: out of there right now, kid, you've had enough time
Speaker 1: to throw up. Which disagree. I've grown up. I've grown
Speaker 1: up fairly recently, and you need to take your time.
Speaker 2: Don't rush someone.
Speaker 1: Don't rush someone, because sometimes you think you're done, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not always done. Carol begs Duncan to calm down, like, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: stop escalating the situation. Robert hears Carol's voice and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh good, the voice of reason is out there, and
Speaker 1: he's he's like, you can come in, and so Carol
Speaker 1: is like, let me handle this. She goes into the
Speaker 1: bathroom and the kid is sitting on the floor with
Speaker 1: his shoes and socks off because his feet were hot.
Speaker 1: This is a really nice touch. I thought this was
Speaker 1: very sweet. And the kid, the kid is good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the kid is good. Also, did you think there was
Speaker 1: gonna be a window in the bathroom and the kid
Speaker 1: would have gotten out? That's what I thought was.
Speaker 2: I only knew there wasn't because he when he says
Speaker 2: he has to go to the bathroom. Someone, I think
Speaker 2: James tells Duncan just let him go. I know there's
Speaker 2: no there's no doorway. Yeah, they know there's no.
Speaker 1: Actually say so. Duncan just snaps at the kid come out,
Speaker 1: and then he leaves, and Carol manages to calm Robert
Speaker 1: down and tells him to put okay, put your shoes
Speaker 1: and socks on and come on out here and join
Speaker 1: the others. It's going to be fine. Yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: going to be fine.
Speaker 2: And it's a really good conversation because the kid's like, well,
Speaker 2: you don't know that we're gonna be fine. She's like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. You're right, but there's police outside. They're gonna
Speaker 2: come in and help us. And he's like, well what
Speaker 2: if Duncan and James shoot them, just like they shoot
Speaker 2: everyone else. And she's like the limb will duck. Like
Speaker 2: she doesn't lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very she's very mature with this kid. Yeah nice,
Speaker 1: she doesn't talk down to him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: As Carol is leaving and the kid is getting his
Speaker 2: shoes on, she notices Duncan's standing over mister Navotny and
Speaker 2: he says that she must see a lot of dead people,
Speaker 2: and she says, yeah, yeah, I do. And he asks
Speaker 2: if she ever got used to it, and she just
Speaker 2: says not really.
Speaker 1: More connection between these two.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Robert emerges, and I can't quite figure out
Speaker 2: this line reading. I think, I think you McGregor is
Speaker 2: playing that he's trying to be friendly. But like Robert
Speaker 2: comes out, Duncan notices him. He spins around, he grabs
Speaker 2: Robert's chin, and he like maybe not quite shouts, but
Speaker 2: like vocalizes fully, Hey there, buddy, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the kid's face.
Speaker 2: Robert panics and he flees into like the stock area
Speaker 2: behind the refrigerator.
Speaker 1: I do think that's what you were right. He's trying
Speaker 1: to like he's having a serious moment. It's too many feelings,
Speaker 1: too many emotions. So when the kid comes out, he's
Speaker 1: like deflect, deflect, deflect, and yeah, I think he's trying
Speaker 1: to be friendly, and it like comes off insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the kid does what a kid should do
Speaker 2: in this situation.
Speaker 1: The kid's like nope, nope, don't like this at all,
Speaker 1: and he flees. The phone starts ringing again. Robert tries
Speaker 1: to avoid Duncan grabbing him through the fridge, like, so
Speaker 1: he goes like I into the fridge and now like
Speaker 1: you and McGregor is like shoving like milk bottles and
Speaker 1: things out of the way to try to grab this
Speaker 1: kid from like behind the shelves that he's he's the
Speaker 1: only one small enough that this he could have potentially
Speaker 1: done this right. Duncan manages eventually to get a hold
Speaker 1: of Robert and he drags him like through the fridge
Speaker 1: across the shelves. Meanwhile, Carol screaming, don't don't hurt him,
Speaker 1: don't hurt him, don't hurt him, And he drags the
Speaker 1: kid out and he kind of like flings him off
Speaker 1: the off the fridge and into the pinball machine and
Speaker 1: he tells him, I want you to start playing pinball
Speaker 1: and if at any point I don't hear the game going,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn around and shoot. Yeah, that's terrifying. So
Speaker 1: now the kid is like standing there again, frozen in fear,
Speaker 1: and he's like, play the fucking game. Yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: say fuck because it's it's it's television.
Speaker 2: No one curses this entire episode because it's network TV.
Speaker 1: The amount of times you can see you and McGregor
Speaker 1: cursing and like it getting cut. It happens more than once.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, he got he cursed
Speaker 1: there and they had to cut around it because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of like freakin' freakin' I freaking fracking told
Speaker 1: you to freaking frack it. Shoot, I'm like, you said
Speaker 1: fuck and they had to cut around it for the
Speaker 1: fortieth time, and you're like, I'm so sorry, Let's do
Speaker 1: it again. Let's do it again.
Speaker 2: So Duncan finally answers the phone while Carol attends to James,
Speaker 2: who is now rapidly losing conscious. James is like on
Speaker 2: the floor now passing out. Yeah, Duncan decides to get
Speaker 2: cute with the police. He refuses a doctor. He says,
Speaker 2: Carol's got it. We've got our own nurse half theway here.
Speaker 2: She's got it. And then he says, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we all resent the implication that you're saying that she
Speaker 2: doesn't have it. We all believe in Carol. You don't
Speaker 2: believe in Carol.
Speaker 1: So he's kind of like that, It kind of thought
Speaker 1: that was funny.
Speaker 2: It is funny, but it's very like if you put
Speaker 2: yourself in the reality of the situations like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: But you're right, it's very like, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Like you know, I resent the implication that
Speaker 1: you don't think our nurse can handle this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At that moment, he suddenly realized he doesn't hear the
Speaker 2: pinball machine anymore, and he looks over and he sees
Speaker 2: like the bottom half of Robert climbing up into the ceiling.
Speaker 2: He rushes overs, screaming at him. He tries to grab
Speaker 2: the kid and pull the kid down. Robert manages to
Speaker 2: get up in the ceiling like the ducts into the Dutch.
Speaker 2: Duncan follows him, but his weight is too much. The
Speaker 2: ceiling collapses and he crashes down into the pinball machine,
Speaker 2: cutting himself up with broken glass.
Speaker 1: Is not Duncan's day.
Speaker 2: This day has been.
Speaker 1: He's had a bad day. Duncan, you know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna take an l on today. Everything is going wrong
Speaker 1: for Duncan. Things are not coming up roses for Duncan.
Speaker 1: We cut back to a few minutes later later, I suppose,
Speaker 1: and we see Carol picking glass out of Duncan's face
Speaker 1: and he's lamenting that. Oh. By now, Robert is already
Speaker 1: outside he's talking to the police, which again it's like,
Speaker 1: who cares. The police already have all the information they need,
Speaker 1: They already know there are two gunmen inside. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Carol reiterates that James needs a doctor. She's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you. This is dead serious.
Speaker 1: Your cousin is going to die if he does not
Speaker 1: get a doctor. Carol says she needs glue, and of
Speaker 1: course he's like, what do you need glue for? And
Speaker 1: she's like, unless you want me to stitch up your
Speaker 1: face with needle and thread, I'm gonna use glue, and
Speaker 1: he's like, got it, use the glue work. Glue is
Speaker 1: king here, and she goes, missus ne' botany where's the
Speaker 1: glue and Missus de' botany says it's behind the counter.
Speaker 1: To her credit, she actually the actress nails it. She
Speaker 1: doesn't do it in a way like everyone off. Carol
Speaker 1: heads back to get the glue and she manages to
Speaker 1: grab the keys. She puts them in her pocket. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: James is continuing to slip away into the abyss go
Speaker 1: towards the light, Joe towards the light. She reiterates Duncan,
Speaker 1: you have to give up or your cousin is going
Speaker 1: to die, and Duncan starts waxing poetic about various places
Speaker 1: in Scotland that he would like to go to that
Speaker 1: he wishes he had gone to. This is where you
Speaker 1: and McGregor works for me because this could this should
Speaker 1: be so irritating and this fucking man with the charm
Speaker 1: levels that he has, yeah, actually manages to make me
Speaker 1: feel bad for him for two seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impressive. It doesn't quite work for me.
Speaker 1: It is a mount Etna. This fucker is climbing to
Speaker 1: make this shit work.
Speaker 2: I don't believe anyone could have made it work for me, Like,
Speaker 2: is no no aspersion upon you and McGregor here. I'm
Speaker 2: just like, this is impossible.
Speaker 1: He gets soft, He gets really sweet. He starts talking
Speaker 1: about this like this like lock that he would want
Speaker 1: to go to. At one point I had to say
Speaker 1: check guy for the wind with funniest line of the episode,
Speaker 1: because the brother is like, the cousin is like, we
Speaker 1: should escape to Michigan and and go on a boat
Speaker 1: to Lake Michigan, and the check Guy's like the lake
Speaker 1: is probably frozen, Like yes, yes, check guy, Yes see
Speaker 1: Maricel Nichols, that's how you be sassy to do a
Speaker 1: guy with a gun. So Duncan, after waxing poetic, starts
Speaker 1: to like lose his mind a little bit. He gets
Speaker 1: really upset over everything that's happened. He's had a really
Speaker 1: bad day, you guys, a really bad He winds up
Speaker 1: like shouting, I killed a man. I killed a man.
Speaker 1: Does anyone know what that feels like? Carol just quietly goes,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Duncan stands up. He's looking at her, and Carol says,
Speaker 2: I gave him the wrong blood. And Duncan says, but
Speaker 2: you didn't mean to kill him? Oh sorry, I should
Speaker 2: do that, my perfect Scottish brogue.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely dead on accurate, perfect Scottish brogue.
Speaker 2: But they didn't mean to kill him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, yeah, my god.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like Scrooge McDuck himself is in there.
Speaker 2: Carol says, you didn't mean to kill mister Navotny. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: I get what she's doing.
Speaker 1: She's you know, I get what she's doing, but like
Speaker 1: there's the difference here. I don't think it's gonna hold
Speaker 1: up in court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one is actively trying to help and there was
Speaker 2: a horrible mistake made, and one is actively trying to
Speaker 2: harm and a horrible mistake was made. Duncan says he
Speaker 2: doesn't think the cops are gonna care about that fair.
Speaker 1: And Carol's like, ah, man, I'm just trying to be cool.
Speaker 2: Here outflanked by a Scottish burglar. Again, if I had
Speaker 2: a nickel verbally defeated by a Scottish idiot.
Speaker 1: Fucking logic, I don't know how to nurse my way
Speaker 1: out of logic.
Speaker 2: So Duncan starts to starts to freak out again. He
Speaker 2: promises James he's gonna get them out of there. He
Speaker 2: starts casting about for a plan, and just then Javier
Speaker 2: sneaks out of the back room with his bat.
Speaker 1: Heavier man, Pavier, man, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why is everyone actively working against Carol? James notices him
Speaker 2: and warns Duncan, who spins around with his pistol, and
Speaker 2: Carol throws herself in front of Javier and he stops.
Speaker 2: Duncan stops, and she tells Duncan he already knows what
Speaker 2: it feels like to kill a man, only this time
Speaker 2: he'll mean it.
Speaker 1: This line reading is perfect. She is so good in
Speaker 1: this moment. I'm like, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: Duncan takes him on it and then he grabs Javier
Speaker 2: by the shirt and he starts screaming on him.
Speaker 1: Where were you? Where were you?
Speaker 2: And Javier finally says I was by the door back there,
Speaker 2: and Duncan starts screaming, there's a door there. He's like
Speaker 2: slamming Javier up against the wall and Carol remember got
Speaker 2: the keys, Like, just take the keys, take the keys
Speaker 2: and go, just go.
Speaker 1: Duncan asked missus Novotne, where does the door go? And
Speaker 1: she says, there's a fire escape. Let me do my
Speaker 1: perfect missus Novatne. Yeah, Polish accent. I'm guessing it's it's Chicago,
Speaker 1: so probably Polish. Right, there's a fire escape. No, no,
Speaker 1: hang on, I think you commit. I'm doing Scottish too,
Speaker 1: believe in you. That's my Scottish. Hang on, hang on,
Speaker 1: here we go. There's a fly escape. Nope, that's French.
Speaker 1: That's French. Hold on, I got a Polish, I got
Speaker 1: a Polish in me. Yeah, fire escape there it is.
Speaker 1: That was Polish. That's the perfect Polish. Duncan decides he's
Speaker 1: gonna Carol as his hostage because the show has to
Speaker 1: keep going. That's why it doesn't make any logical sense.
Speaker 1: But like the writer wrote themselves into a corner here,
Speaker 1: right because they're like, well, we have to keep following Carol.
Speaker 1: So he's like, you, you're coming with me, And then
Speaker 1: he tells James that he has to go right, like
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry James, like I'm leaving you here, and
Speaker 1: James is like we should have waited, yea, and Duncan's like, bitch, not.
Speaker 2: Now, too little, too late, James.
Speaker 1: Duncan assures him the doctors will take good care of you.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 1: It's not like you murdered anyone, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: And so Duncan, this is so weird and crucial to me.
Speaker 1: Duncan like walks out of the store and Carol follows him.
Speaker 1: It's not like he grabs Carrol and does like the
Speaker 1: hostage thing where he's he's holding like a gun to
Speaker 1: her head and he's like, you're coming with me, and
Speaker 1: like forces her into the alleyway with him. No, she
Speaker 1: he goes, He's like you, you're coming with me, and
Speaker 1: then he goes first and she just follows him. It's
Speaker 1: weird blocking.
Speaker 2: It's weird blocking. I would I can justify it in
Speaker 2: my head by being like Carol, who this whole time
Speaker 2: has just been like everybody de escalate, is like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to give him any excuse to be upset.
Speaker 2: I like, I've made some connections with him. I don't
Speaker 2: think he doesn't want I know he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: kill me. She took it oath Erica and nurses out,
Speaker 2: being like, did you no harm? I'm going to follow
Speaker 2: him to get him out, so when the police come in, like,
Speaker 2: there's not like sacrificing herself. But you're right, it's just
Speaker 2: we're blocking. Just have her go first.
Speaker 1: It's we're blocking because of what happens is it sets
Speaker 1: up the rest of this episode in which Carol, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna spoil it now, Carol becomes like Duncan's like
Speaker 1: like advocate for the rest of the episode, like like
Speaker 1: genuinely his advocate. And I'm like, but why, yeah, like why,
Speaker 1: Like I get it. I see him too, I see
Speaker 1: what he looks like, but like no, but you also
Speaker 1: see the haircut. But he's been a shitty person for
Speaker 1: the last thirty minutes. He does not deserve your help.
Speaker 1: So Duncan leads Carol up the fire escape through an
Speaker 1: apartment in the building and out onto the street. This
Speaker 1: is very cool camera work. That's another thing the show
Speaker 1: was famous for. It's like innovative camera work, like doing
Speaker 1: stuff that no one had really done on TV before.
Speaker 1: It was very cool. And he stops and he kind
Speaker 1: of jokingly tells her this is called Taking the Long
Speaker 1: Way Around title.
Speaker 2: Of the art of the episode, because they needed a title.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Long Way Around really makes any
Speaker 2: sense as a title, but.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean, couldn't the title of the.
Speaker 2: Episode been like mcguiver, MAXI pads.
Speaker 1: And the ten thousands emergency tracheotomy. You're gonna see this
Speaker 1: here on television. They start to walk, attempting to appear
Speaker 1: like a normal like two people just walking down the street.
Speaker 1: Nothing weird to see here, and Carol's like, okay, at
Speaker 1: the end of the alley, you're gonna let me go.
Speaker 1: She's not asking, she's telling, and he goes sure, and
Speaker 1: then he's like kind of looks at her like affectionately
Speaker 1: and says, I wouldn't want you to slow me down, right,
Speaker 1: Like he's thinking her in his way for like her
Speaker 1: assistance through all of this. So they're having a moment,
Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet moment here. Unfortunately, the police pull up
Speaker 1: and Duncan fucking panics as he should. Yeah, he starts
Speaker 1: to run. He just flees down the alley the other
Speaker 1: way to the alley, and she's like, don't run, Duncan, stop,
Speaker 1: what are you doing there? These are American cops. I
Speaker 1: don't think I have to tell you how this is
Speaker 1: going to end. The police starts shooting, and they shoot
Speaker 1: him three times in the back. Carol immediately runs over
Speaker 1: to Duncan and she starts to try to save his life.
Speaker 1: She's like, ambulance, get an ambulance. And the reaction is
Speaker 1: such that you really would think that the cops just
Speaker 1: shot her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cop goes past her, the cop shoots Duncan,
Speaker 2: the cop starts running. She Florence Griffith joiners past the
Speaker 2: cop and gets to Duncan. First point of order. No
Speaker 2: bullet holes in that jacket when she rolls him over,
Speaker 2: and it was absolutely shot three times in the back.
Speaker 2: But whatever. We cut to Chicago General Hospital. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the name of the hospital.
Speaker 1: We're now back in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carol rides in on top of Duncan, living out
Speaker 2: the dream of every theater girl in her teens. At
Speaker 2: that moment, she's still doing CPR as doctor Doug Ross
Speaker 2: played by George Clooney and doctor Kerry Weaver played by
Speaker 2: Laura Innes tell her that they've got it from here. Remember,
Speaker 2: Carol is suspended. She is not currently an active employee
Speaker 2: at this hospital.
Speaker 1: Also, okay, this is a small thing. It's not actually
Speaker 1: that small of a thing. But she's come in from outside,
Speaker 1: she's come in from the street. These other doctors have
Speaker 1: scrubbed in. Yeah, and they're like they're wearing gloves, they're
Speaker 1: wearing protection here, and like none of them are wearing masks,
Speaker 1: which now I notice it, but like back then, who
Speaker 1: would have noticed that? And of course you can't have
Speaker 1: them wearing masks all the time because you can't cover
Speaker 1: George Clooney's face. That's right, that's a crime against humanity.
Speaker 1: But like they're just she just keeps going, like with
Speaker 1: the CPR and with like she has blood all over
Speaker 1: her hands and stuff. She keeps touching the patients and
Speaker 1: like their wounds.
Speaker 2: And she keeps running back and forth in between the
Speaker 2: two because James is in one room and Duncans in
Speaker 2: the other. Yeah, she just keeps running back and forth,
Speaker 2: like getting.
Speaker 1: Her bloody hands all over everything. She gets blood on
Speaker 1: the wall, blood on the doors, blood on herself. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, yeah, you are not scrubbed in. You
Speaker 1: are making this war. You're gonna give everyone tetanus. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 2: So an enormous amount of medical jargon happens, and as
Speaker 2: we were describing, Carol cannot seem to allow her colleagues
Speaker 2: just fucking do their jobs. Both Ross and Weaver are
Speaker 2: basically like, we've got this go away.
Speaker 1: Carol like, yeah, She actually has this moment where she
Speaker 1: kind of tries to go in over Ross's head because
Speaker 1: he's not a surgeon. He's a doctor, but not a
Speaker 1: surgeon the ways like Eric Lasall's character is. And so
Speaker 1: she's like, can we get that guy in here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that guy needs to be here, not you. You're not qualified.
Speaker 1: It's the implication. She doesn't actively say that, but I
Speaker 1: was like, oh damn, because I know a little bit
Speaker 1: of backstory and if you've noticed, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this, but these two are dating in the show. Ah,
Speaker 1: so she's George Clooney's girlfriend. I didn't really not in
Speaker 1: real life like in the show.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that because I didn't know that Ross
Speaker 2: wasn't a surgeon. I actually didn't quite understand what was
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's not He's a doctor, but not a surgeon.
Speaker 1: He and Anthony Edwards. I think this is so I'm
Speaker 1: literally remembering this from thirty years ago, so I could
Speaker 1: be getting this wrong. Are doctors, and then Eric Lasel,
Speaker 1: Noah Wiley and I think maybe Laura Innes are all
Speaker 1: the surgeons, okay, or maybe that's Gloria Ruben's doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The whole point is she is basically telling her boyfriend
Speaker 1: to not touch her new boyfriend. That is the weirdness
Speaker 1: that I'm getting from this moment. Gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Finally she's pushed aside and she watches as her
Speaker 2: colleagues take over.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We cut to later and we hear from some
Speaker 1: of the hospital staff that James is likely to survive
Speaker 1: his injuries, believe it or not, even though James was
Speaker 1: shot with a shotgun, He's actually probably gonna make it. Duncan,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, died on the operating table because
Speaker 1: doctor George Clooney didn't know what he was doing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Carol walks out of the operating room. She finds Angie
Speaker 1: getting her burns treated. Angie starts to cry upon seeing Carol. Angie,
Speaker 1: the whole episode has been real like tough cookie, yeahright,
Speaker 1: like lippy lippy not taking any shit from these from
Speaker 1: asshole burglars. But suddenly, like the trauma of what has
Speaker 1: happened hits her and she does an amazing job in
Speaker 1: the scene. It's a beautiful scene. Carsele Nichols is great.
Speaker 1: She's so good and she's like, whoa, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I got so upset, and Carol's like, well, you've been
Speaker 1: through a lot today. She manages to report that everyone
Speaker 1: else is okay. She tells she fills Carol in like
Speaker 1: others were taken to other hospitals. Everyone's fine, including Robert
Speaker 1: who was hiding in the ceiling until the police arrived
Speaker 1: and then they got him out of the ceiling and
Speaker 1: he's totally fine. Yep. She also thanks Carol for saving
Speaker 1: everyone's lives back there, right, and she's like, no, thanks
Speaker 1: to you, lippy Lippy McGee.
Speaker 2: Working actively against me. Carol walks to get a drink
Speaker 2: of water, and at the water fountain she finds doctor
Speaker 2: Ross her BOFE.
Speaker 1: George Clooney. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Doctor Ross asks how she is. She says she's fine.
Speaker 2: She apologizes for her behavior in the operating room. He
Speaker 2: says it's fine to worry about it. He is walking
Speaker 2: with a cane at this point. Show there's backstory, there,
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 1: I want to say he was shot in the leg
Speaker 1: at some point when I kind of remember this, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Uh.
Speaker 2: He says that's okay, and he walks away, and she
Speaker 2: turns to see Duncan's body on the operating table, very exposed.
Speaker 2: Like I get that this is just blocking and it
Speaker 2: has to be the way it is. But like she's
Speaker 2: at the water fountain, has this conversation. She literally turns
Speaker 2: around down a short hallway to a wide open operating
Speaker 2: room operating theater where Duncan's corpse is lying there. How
Speaker 2: angry do you think you and McGregor was that they
Speaker 2: insisted on shading his genitals because you know, there's nothing
Speaker 2: he likes more.
Speaker 1: I thought of that because they were like, yeah, they shady.
Speaker 2: But not even a shadow of the balls because the
Speaker 2: shot was straight up, straight up, straight up the alley.
Speaker 1: Straight up the alleyway. He had a towel covering his genitals,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm like, you know. He was like,
Speaker 1: come on, you guys, come on. How Vanilla is American television?
Speaker 2: I thought we were boundary pushing here.
Speaker 1: They show my genitals on Scottish TV for children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is the most popular. My cock and
Speaker 2: balls bouncing up and down in hypnotic way is the
Speaker 2: most popular children's.
Speaker 1: Television on Saturday morning in Scottish. It is I watch
Speaker 1: my absolutely every child in Scotland.
Speaker 2: So she sadly gathers her stuff and she heads out
Speaker 2: of the hospital.
Speaker 1: On her way out, doctor Weaver, Laura Innes's character, stops
Speaker 1: her and asks if she needs anything. Are you okay?
Speaker 1: And Carol says no, I'm fine. Again, She's like very stoic,
Speaker 1: there's no like hint of like, well, that was a
Speaker 1: shitty day I just had. And Weaver says, we miss
Speaker 1: you around here, and she smiles and she says I
Speaker 1: miss you as well. I missed this hospital. I love
Speaker 1: my job, I really love what I do, and Weaver says,
Speaker 1: I know, and Carol smiles and says I'm gonna go home,
Speaker 1: and she walks to the L train and her blood
Speaker 1: stained clothes and waits for the train.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine seeing next to this person being.
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, I think I have girl once. I am sure.
Speaker 1: I've sat next to a bloodsoaked person on the subway
Speaker 1: and been like, you know what, no questions.
Speaker 2: I did a show once where I at the end
Speaker 2: of it, I had blood on me and I didn't
Speaker 2: like I had like a little bit behind my ear,
Speaker 2: so when I washed my face, I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: I was odd way home and the person sitting next
Speaker 2: to me is like suddenly started staring at me and
Speaker 2: like and I was like what. Then she was like
Speaker 2: are you okay? And I was like, oh, it's I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's fake. I promise I'm not like bleeding out in
Speaker 2: front of you. I got home and looked and it
Speaker 2: was like a big like I understood why she read
Speaker 2: because I was like, that wasn't like a little streak.
Speaker 2: It was like I looked like I'm actively bleeding a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: So I was stabbed in the neck earlier. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Fine, I'm a New Yorker.
Speaker 1: I'm fine, bitch, mind your business. Did I talk to you?
Speaker 1: You had to take your earbuds out and you're like,
Speaker 1: what what?
Speaker 3: Rude?
Speaker 1: Rude?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Everyone? So that is Er season three, episode fifteen. I
Speaker 2: think that's right, the long way around.
Speaker 1: Stick around.
Speaker 2: We're going to play a couple of commercials here and
Speaker 2: we're gonna come back. We're gonna give you our random
Speaker 2: observations and final rankings.
Speaker 1: And we're back. Here's my perfect Polish accent. Are you
Speaker 1: ready for it? Yeah? Give us some random observations. Damn it,
Speaker 1: I think that was Irish.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was anything. You know, that was
Speaker 2: like old Norse.
Speaker 1: It was old Norse. I I think I just conjured
Speaker 1: up an old alien god. That was Thor. Hang on,
Speaker 1: here we go. Nope, got it? Polish accent? Really, I
Speaker 1: got it. I've spent a lot of time in Poland.
Speaker 1: I know how to do a Polish accent. Progy, see
Speaker 1: it perfect? I did it? Yeah, yeah, the selka. You're
Speaker 1: welcome boo. Yeah, all right, Paul, give us some random observations.
Speaker 2: There's just one moment in the beginning. The burglars have
Speaker 2: just entered. They're yelling at everyone to get down. Everything's
Speaker 2: just starting up, basically, and there's this moment with mister Douzak,
Speaker 2: the older check man, where he hasn't gone down to
Speaker 2: the ground, and the implication that he's just startled, like
Speaker 2: he hasn't moved because he's just scared to move, and
Speaker 2: Duncan goes right up to me. He's like, get down
Speaker 2: or one of them. I don't even know which one.
Speaker 1: Get down, get down, and the guy goes.
Speaker 2: And falls and look, I'm not I'm not saying it's
Speaker 2: bad acting or anything like that. Who knows how you
Speaker 2: would fucking react, And it's just it's funny because he's
Speaker 2: totally still and the guy shouts and it's like there
Speaker 2: was a jump scare for him and then he falls over.
Speaker 1: That's how he hurts his wrist. I just want to
Speaker 1: connect this episode to last week's episode seventh Heaven seventh even.
Speaker 1: I bet you can't think I can connect the two,
Speaker 1: but I can. The connective tissue is cushballs. Right bit
Speaker 1: of nineties ephemera and this one as well. There is
Speaker 1: a cushball like display on the counter of the store.
Speaker 1: Cushballs were unescapable.
Speaker 2: If that, if this, if this TV show had actually
Speaker 2: been true to itself. Those keys would have been on
Speaker 2: a cushball keychain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or she would have She would have staunched someone's
Speaker 1: blood by sticking cushballs into the wounds.
Speaker 2: Forget about the Maxi pads, Get the cushballs.
Speaker 1: A uh.
Speaker 2: There is a moment where we cut back Angie is
Speaker 2: doing the CPR and mister Nevotney where she's trying. It's
Speaker 2: when it's when she's counting the ribs for the chest
Speaker 2: whatever thing. Again, I don't know what this is supposed
Speaker 2: to look like. I know nothing. This may be super accurate,
Speaker 2: but obviously they have Marisol Nichols. She's in frame and
Speaker 2: mister Nevotney is out of frame, and it just looks
Speaker 2: like she is pushing way too hard.
Speaker 1: I think of that a lot on television shows, where
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you gonna crack through that person?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've probably had a dummy under so she's probably
Speaker 2: going to town on it. And like, obviously you're you're
Speaker 2: your a worked up situation. So again I'm not this
Speaker 2: is not a criticism. It's just made me go, she's
Speaker 2: gonna break his ribs.
Speaker 1: I just love how everyone just believes Carol when she
Speaker 1: says she's fine. At the end, she comes in covered
Speaker 1: in blood from a hostage situation that she has just handled.
Speaker 1: She is actively trying to save the two men who
Speaker 1: held her gut at gunpoint, and then they're like are
Speaker 1: you okays like, I'm fine, yeah, and she just goes home.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go home.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are there no therapists back then? That? Did
Speaker 1: therapy not exist in the nineties? Was there not like
Speaker 1: a like a like a doctor someone who was like, hey, girl,
Speaker 1: let her come into my office and have a cup
Speaker 1: of tea and talk about the nonsense you just went through.
Speaker 2: Laura Innos didn't want to be like, hey, let me
Speaker 2: pay for your cab ride, don't take the l Let's
Speaker 2: just get you home.
Speaker 1: Don't take the l What the fuck? These people are
Speaker 1: hard as nails.
Speaker 2: Did you notice the sign on the bathroom door.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: The sign of the bathroom door in Navatni's market reads
Speaker 2: employees must wash hands before handling food products, but not otherwise.
Speaker 1: Otherwise fine, otherwise playball.
Speaker 2: If you're on the deli counter today, wash your hands.
Speaker 2: But if you're just stocking the shelves.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead. I don't care if you were asking,
Speaker 1: then touch all the cushballs, touch them all, get in there,
Speaker 1: real massage.
Speaker 2: Massage, give the cushballs a scout massage.
Speaker 1: All the aspirin. Yeah, in the store. I just have
Speaker 1: one more. And it's a weird thing. I didn't hit
Speaker 1: this enough, but like I cannot tell you enough how
Speaker 1: weird Carol's reaction to Duncan is at the end of
Speaker 1: the episode, and how much she's like, I have to
Speaker 1: save his life. I have to save his life. And
Speaker 1: I'm like you so don't, Yeah, like this a it's
Speaker 1: not your job. Be like, he's not your boyfriend. Don't
Speaker 1: feel bad for him. I know you had a moment
Speaker 1: where he was like in Scotland, there's a pretty place
Speaker 1: I wish I'd gone to instead of shooting up a
Speaker 1: store today. Great good, But like she's she way over
Speaker 1: pivots and so okay. When she's gathering her shit at
Speaker 1: the end of the scene, when she's like putting on
Speaker 1: her coat, putting on her blah blah blah, she picks
Speaker 1: up a sneaker. Did you notice that? Yeah, it's duncan sneaker,
Speaker 1: isn't it. No, it's the kids sneaker. It's the kid sneaker.
Speaker 1: It's Robert sneak. How the fuck did it get iscause.
Speaker 2: When he grabs him, he pulls off one.
Speaker 1: Of his shoes and he puts it in his pocket.
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure how it makes the trip from
Speaker 2: the store to.
Speaker 1: The to the r Yeah, but I'm because because the
Speaker 1: kid didn't go to that hospital, the kid went to
Speaker 1: another hospital.
Speaker 2: I'm ninety nine percent sure it's the kid sneaker.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes so much more sense because I thought
Speaker 1: she was like taking Duncan's.
Speaker 2: Shoes and that bron and I was like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? You're like, where are the police? You're
Speaker 1: not you can't just take evidence? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: There's a like many crimes have been committed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, last one another signage moment. Oh no, there's
Speaker 2: a sign on the wall of and look. I don't
Speaker 2: want to I don't want to begrudge anyone their dietary habits.
Speaker 2: The sign is advertising government inspected pork neck bones three
Speaker 2: for a dollar forty nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's that for? I mean you've had polish food?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for hamburgers.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: I think they use it in quite a few things.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I love Polish food. I think it's delicious.
Speaker 1: I do love a parogi. But but yeah, no, that
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. That's just like the most
Speaker 1: polish thing ever.
Speaker 2: Three for a dollar forty nine.
Speaker 1: That's a deal. It's a fucking deal.
Speaker 2: And it's not neck. It's not neck, it's neck bones.
Speaker 2: You're getting the bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna make soup. You're gonna make some delicious
Speaker 1: like old world soup from the from the from back
Speaker 1: in the old country. And it's gonna be delicious, all right, Paul,
Speaker 1: how should we rank this episode of er er is
Speaker 1: divined to er is human to her? Is divine to her?
Speaker 1: Is human to divine?
Speaker 2: One to ten times Erica was right?
Speaker 1: Oh hmm. I still feel good about that one. I've
Speaker 1: been feeling warm and cuddly, you know what. I don't care.
Speaker 1: It was such a good one. I don't care that
Speaker 1: it's Paul thirty five hundred Erica one that I got one.
Speaker 1: I got one.
Speaker 2: Remember when you didn't see this version of the notebook
Speaker 2: that had them die at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that one's not on me. That's what I
Speaker 1: was using. How about one to ten fuckable mad hatters?
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had that in me. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was a kink I had. But guess what,
Speaker 1: guess what, hop on.
Speaker 2: You're still learning and that's the most important part of
Speaker 2: staying young, you know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I may be middle aged, but I'm
Speaker 1: still learning about myself. I still find out every day
Speaker 1: more about myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's beautiful. Thank you, and you share it
Speaker 2: with us. We we are the lucky ones.
Speaker 1: I thank you. I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely one to ten mcguyverd tracheotomies, so many
Speaker 2: of that I never want to see again.
Speaker 1: I think I could do one. I'm pretty sure I could.
Speaker 1: Look you just you cut the hole open right like
Speaker 1: where the where the soft spot is. Yeah, stick a
Speaker 1: stry in. There's sometimes they make they show someone's sucking
Speaker 1: blood out.
Speaker 2: Oh I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: And then because you have to get the clot out,
Speaker 1: so you suck the clot out and then and then
Speaker 1: you put a little bit of tape over it and
Speaker 1: the person can breathe through their neck. It's I've seen
Speaker 1: it often enough. I'm pretty sure I could do one.
Speaker 2: You guys listeners, it's been a great journey, but the
Speaker 2: podcast is now over.
Speaker 1: I honestly thought up for a minute there. If you
Speaker 1: guys think those were fake, like wretched noises, they aren't.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: He was fighting the urge not to vomit while I
Speaker 1: was describing under a trinky out of me. Good lord,
Speaker 1: how about one to ten. I'll bring it back. I'll
Speaker 1: get it back for you, Paul ready, Yeah, one to
Speaker 1: ten Scottish children shows starring Ewan McGregor's Penis and Balls.
Speaker 2: That is, to date my favorite children's show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what is it? It's called McGregor's Genitals.
Speaker 2: Is Genital's play a farmer?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got the name wrong. My bad, My bad.
Speaker 1: I've seen so many episodes you think i'd know. The
Speaker 1: name is called Captain mcgrets genitals. Oh is he a
Speaker 1: ship captain? He's a ship captain Penis?
Speaker 2: I mean, of course the.
Speaker 1: Genitals are are a ship captain. It runs a very
Speaker 1: tight ship. He has a little sword and scabbard.
Speaker 2: And Alan Cummings Genitals play the first mate.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, Mattie, Yes, yes, yes, Matiem Accumming.
Speaker 2: Honestly, two actors that I truly believe will drop their
Speaker 2: drawers at a moment's notice.
Speaker 1: They will show children their genitals, if you ask, if.
Speaker 2: You ask, if you do it, unless they're not, they're
Speaker 2: not assaulters.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get They're just you have to sign some
Speaker 1: consent forms. And then I feel like we're gonna throw
Speaker 1: Tilda Swinton in there as well, an another Scottish. Great
Speaker 1: she will show you her labia if you ask nicely.
Speaker 2: And absolutely absolutely one to ten.
Speaker 1: Yes, that one. That yeah, because you know why, Paul,
Speaker 1: because I took a podcast or do you want to
Speaker 1: go first? Should I go first? I'll go first on
Speaker 1: this one. I think at ages very well. It does.
Speaker 1: It's I didn't realize it really at the time because
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to this stuff. But You Are
Speaker 1: is a pretty diverse show for especially for like nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six, so many shows back then were lily white.
Speaker 1: It takes place in Chicago. The show reflects what Chicago
Speaker 1: looks like in the main cast. This episode in particular
Speaker 1: doesn't have so much diversity, but the main cast is
Speaker 1: quite diverse. And then this episode has it has a
Speaker 1: Scottish person, It has a Scottish person, but also like
Speaker 1: there really is a lot of Eastern European people in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Like there's like a whole Polish neighborhood. So like it
Speaker 1: does make sense that there are so many Eastern Europeans
Speaker 1: in this store.
Speaker 2: And also like the Maricel Nichols is Latina, yes, and
Speaker 2: Javier is is al Latin man. And then I cut
Speaker 2: this out, but like her, she has this brief scene
Speaker 2: with like her postman or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, her male man black. It looks like Chicago.
Speaker 2: They're actively populating the show with multiple ethnicities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does look like Chicago, and so that's
Speaker 1: very very cool. The strong strong female character. Like the
Speaker 1: whole shit, This whole episode revolves around Julianna Margaalize's character.
Speaker 1: And even in memory of the show, again I have
Speaker 1: not I have not watched it in like thirty years,
Speaker 1: but like Laura Innes, I remember having quite a lot
Speaker 1: to do, and she's she's gay on the show. Oh
Speaker 1: I forgot that. Yeah, I totally forgot that. And we
Speaker 1: have a gay and again and a gay yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of strong female characters. Like there's another female doctor
Speaker 1: whose name I can't quite remember. I think she's played
Speaker 1: by Sherry Weaver, Serry Stringfield, Cherry Stringfield. I'm mixing actors
Speaker 1: names now, another like main character point how.
Speaker 2: Laura Ennes's character uses I'm not sure what the right
Speaker 2: word would be, but like a crutch. Oh, yes, on
Speaker 2: the show, so she is she is a disabled person. Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the PC term anymore, but
Speaker 2: like very casual representation, and I'm sure there are storylines
Speaker 2: around it.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, I don't even again I am remembering. If
Speaker 1: you've seen the show more recently, please let us know.
Speaker 1: But I actually have a very strong memory of like
Speaker 1: she appears she's she's using the crutch maybe one person,
Speaker 1: maybe like Noah Wiley's character. The pilot follows Noah Whiley's
Speaker 1: character on his first day at the hospital, so he's
Speaker 1: kind of the intro.
Speaker 2: Like and I don't think she's in the pilot, she
Speaker 2: joins later.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought she was in the pilot. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I think she is.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but anyway, I just don't remember
Speaker 1: them making a thing of it like at all. And
Speaker 1: it was she's she's obviously extraordinarily capable. She's probably the
Speaker 1: most capable doctor they have here, right, and like that's fantastic,
Speaker 1: so and again it all seemed very effortless and like
Speaker 1: no one called it out. No one was like, but
Speaker 1: I am the black doctor and therefore, like none of
Speaker 1: that shit I don't think happened in the show.
Speaker 2: You know what, this reminded me of a little bit
Speaker 2: now that we're talking about Fame, the way we talked
Speaker 2: about how Fame was just very casually.
Speaker 1: Just normal, just like, this is what Chicago looks like,
Speaker 1: This is what New York looks like, This is what
Speaker 1: like cities look like in America. Like just fucking be
Speaker 1: cool everyone. So yeah, I'm gonna say this age is
Speaker 1: extremely well. I also love you and McGregor. Sure, that's
Speaker 1: why we did this episode. I actually wish we'd picked
Speaker 1: a different episode because I liked this episode very much,
Speaker 1: but it was very like it's a bottle episode, and
Speaker 1: I kind of wish we'd done one that had more
Speaker 1: of the main cast and like more more hospital stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the episode with the puppies holding them hostage at gun point,
Speaker 1: but that's a nice either here nor there. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: picked the Youan McGregor one because it's Ian McGregor eight.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna no, I honestly, wait, what am I even
Speaker 1: taking points off for? I don't even know why I'm
Speaker 1: taking points off. Yeah, ten. Yeah, I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: a ten. I can't think of a of a reason
Speaker 1: to give this this show again. I'm gonna give the
Speaker 1: caveat that I haven't watched this show since the nineties,
Speaker 1: so there might be stuff that I am forgetting. Yeah
Speaker 1: that you're like, girl, don't you remember that plot line
Speaker 1: when all the doctors came in and had Jamaican accents,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, fuck, I don't remember. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it's probably aged extremely well as the
Speaker 1: show as the show's gone on, So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: this episode and sort of low key blanket e are
Speaker 1: a ten.
Speaker 2: How about you, Erica, It's a two, absolute monster. No,
Speaker 2: it ages really really well casual representation. I tried to
Speaker 2: look up how many gay characters there were in YAR,
Speaker 2: but everything just points you to Laura and it's his character,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, I give up. I don't care that much.
Speaker 2: But obviously there were gay people on AR, and I
Speaker 2: know there was a whole storyline about her coming out
Speaker 2: and everything like that. So honestly, if you didn't watch
Speaker 2: the whole thing, maybe she came out after you stopped
Speaker 2: watching it, because I think it was like season six
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: That if I yeah, I was already in college. I
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't watching the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really have any notes. It's it's obviously
Speaker 2: over the top, but it's a nighttime soap. We asked
Speaker 2: for nighttime soaps, like, what do you.
Speaker 1: Want y'all delivered?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want? A low key nighttime soap?
Speaker 2: What a snooze?
Speaker 1: Honestly, this was the most low key one we've done, yeah,
Speaker 1: this month, because the one that's like the most like
Speaker 1: a like a non soap, like a quote unquote normal TV, like.
Speaker 2: This is this is Deli's or markets get robbed? This
Speaker 2: happens like does it happen with the you know, like
Speaker 2: obviously it's a sequence of events that gets a little insane,
Speaker 2: but like it's basically.
Speaker 1: Does it get robbed by by gorgeous scotsman? No, not
Speaker 1: all the time, but you never know, guys, but you
Speaker 1: may get lucky, but.
Speaker 2: Erica gets plundered by them regularly. Yeah. I really don't
Speaker 2: have any notes on it. It's it's a perfect ages,
Speaker 2: perfectly well from what I can tell, I'll give it
Speaker 2: a ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: Nurses, nurses, oaths. I forgot to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have no notes.
Speaker 1: No, and everything we talk about, I'm not really going
Speaker 1: to give a palate cleanser on this one. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy US more fun to.
Speaker 2: Watch, Yeah, I'm not always.
Speaker 1: I feel like Grey's Anatomy has at least like a
Speaker 1: little more of a sense of humor than ER.
Speaker 2: I think it's sexier from what I can.
Speaker 1: Tell, And I believe ER took itself very seriously, which
Speaker 1: you know, as it should. It's about a fucking emergency room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I need to give a pilot cleanser.
Speaker 2: I don't feel need to give a power cleanser. This
Speaker 2: episode does pass the Bechdel test. But hypothetically speaking, if
Speaker 2: all of the named female characters, of which you would
Speaker 2: have like missus navatni uh, Carol obviously an Angie right.
Speaker 1: Well, and Laura Innes, isn't it as well?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, doctor weavers in right. So, But let's just
Speaker 2: this is purely a mental exercise in the shop. If
Speaker 2: they only talked about the burglars the whole time, is
Speaker 2: that acceptable because they I mean, they're not going to
Speaker 2: talk about like their day during.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, because they're not talking about the men in
Speaker 1: their lives are talking about the situation, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I thought too, Like it's they're not
Speaker 2: talking about romance or love.
Speaker 1: They're not like that guy's hot, the Scottish one.
Speaker 2: Although how they didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Imagine if there was like that guy, the Scottish one's
Speaker 1: kind of hot. He shot your husband, Well, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: single now my husband's dead.
Speaker 2: If Angie's like, if he cut his fucking hair, I
Speaker 2: would I will fuck us out of this.
Speaker 1: I would climb it like a tree. Yes, but no.
Speaker 1: There is also there's a conversation with Carol and her
Speaker 1: mother at the beginning, although her mother's not named, but
Speaker 1: and then there's a conversation with Carol and doctor Weaver
Speaker 1: at the end, and Carol and Angie.
Speaker 2: At the end, and I mean they talk about the
Speaker 2: keys with missus Navatni, Like that's not about a man,
Speaker 2: you know, So yeah, it totally does. I was just
Speaker 2: thinking about that. So, Erica, that's the end of our show.
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Speaker 1: Mercy the bus for Kenu forgot to look up what
Speaker 1: character he's playing before he started talking hard. That's hard.
Speaker 1: It could happen, could happen to any Keanu, not just
Speaker 1: that Kean, could happen to literally any Keanu. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know what I appreciate about Kanu? Is it Aragon?
Speaker 1: Is it Vladimir?
Speaker 2: He worked through it. He didn't let he didn't let
Speaker 2: it pull him off.
Speaker 1: His because he not only forgot which character he's playing
Speaker 1: and waiting for goodo, he forgot the names of the
Speaker 1: characters in Waiting for GOODO. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was a real moment. It was a real moment
Speaker 2: for an actor to come through. All right, Erica, any
Speaker 2: any final thoughts on er.
Speaker 1: I need five CC's of podcast stat that's very funny.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, actually happened to me. They said, Picky,
Speaker 1: yuppy spring Chicken it look stop helping. You're making it
Speaker 1: worse now.
Speaker 2: I'm not only forgetful, I'm offended.
Speaker 1: I'm old and decrepit and apparently not Picky. I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm Dusty, I get it. I'm a fucking loser. Shut up.