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just get into the scoreboard update. Ohio State falls to
the big twelve ibuit TCU in that eight nine matchup
in the East Region, first round of sixty four game.
We just had a big upset of five twelve ups
at high Point who's been on a tear to end
their season. They put up eighty three versus Wiskanson and
knockoff the number five seed Wisconsin Badgers. They send them
back in eighty three to eighty two. The last bucket,
the game winning bucket beautiful knocked off South Florida eighty
three seventy nine McNeice and Vanderbilt currently with about one
forty five left in the first half, thirty three to
thirty five. Vandy up to right now in Duke is
down eleven at halftime to see one sixteen. I mean,
I think the last time this happened was when Virginia
was a one seed and got knocked off and it
has happened very few times in NC DOUBLEA bracketology history.
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By the way, Ronald three minute Weaver, he's out, but
he will be joining goes later on to the show
from Shytown. Let's welcome in, Brett always bringing the hammer
Hamton show. Has the madness begun enough for you? Hasn't
been crazy enough for him?
Speaker 5: I love March man like.
Speaker 6: There's there's no other superlative, There's no other adjective like
the word hughes. I love Mars watching high point goal
shot for shot at the end of that game, watching
Sienna like look fairly competent against Duke. My brackets aren't
even busted, by the way.
Speaker 7: But you know what, there are no users in March
because we no matter how bad your bracket is, you
get to watch the tournament. And honestly, I could care
less if my bracket does well, as long as the
games are good, and four or five games in so
far the games are good, Ben.
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Speaker 3: Salt Lake, Ben, I am doing absolutely fantastic. The weather
is incredible, and.
Speaker 5: Cinderella is alive.
Speaker 3: Despite what some talking heads over at the Big Company say,
Cinderella is alive. Just let me just throw this at you,
just to tell you how alive Cinderella is. Chase Johnston
was the player who hit the game winner for High
Point just a few minutes ago. That was his first
bucket of the year. That's incredible, absurd, that is incredible.
Speaker 7: You cannot script this, Like if you wrote a movie
like that, they'd be like, hey, we can't make the
guy who's never made a shot in the season. We
can't make him make it because like why would he
be in at the end of the game in March madness?
Speaker 5: Like, you cannot script this.
Speaker 2: It was this like a special play that they had
dialed up, like you know in Proud No.
Speaker 7: So what happened was Wisconsin, Wisconsin's up one. I think
it was like there was like thirty five seconds, so
there was gonna be like ten seconds left on the clock.
Speaker 5: Once show.
Speaker 7: That may be the case, but even still, I don't
know why. I don't know what happened. Wisconsin goes for
a shot, it gets blocked. He just be lines to
the other end of the floor and made cherry pick
to him and he scores.
Speaker 5: And the cool note.
Speaker 7: Is on the back of his shoes is a reference
to the parable of Jesus talking about finding the one
and he has the do you know guess what number
he is? He's ninety nine, and so the ratnessler's on
the call and he's like, and he just got the one.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was really cool.
Speaker 7: And then he got the post game and uh, dude,
it was incredible. The funny thing was a High Points
head coach was like, they didn't want to play us
in the regular season. He's like, all these big teams,
they don't want to play us in the regular season.
Speaker 5: They didn't want to play Miami Ohio.
Speaker 7: Well guess what you get to the tournament, you better
play us because you have to play us. And looked
what happened. I mean, he was so fired up. Those
kids were so happy, like you could tell that this
means the world to them and it means the world
to us and we're not even there, like this is
this is the the cream of the crop of like
what's so great about sports, and High Point is a
perfect example of that.
Speaker 5: The madness is here.
Speaker 2: It started, and uh, everyone's bracket is officially busted, most
of it, I want to give.
Speaker 5: I do have two perfect brackets left.
Speaker 2: You have two?
Speaker 5: Yeah, how did you make?
Speaker 3: I made six?
Speaker 5: Seven?
Speaker 7: Okay, I mean that's not bad because I know some
people who do like the full limit and they go
twenty five.
Speaker 5: I only make one, but I can respect such. I
made a.
Speaker 3: Different one for every group that I was invited to
be in. Plus I did one where b Yu wins
and I didn't have the curse to put that in
any group. Yeah, that one is actually oh for like,
I have zero points in that bracket right now, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. So you mean like that was
the one where you're like picking all the upsets.
Speaker 3: That was the one where I was just picking, like whatever,
and BYU is gonna win it all?
Speaker 1: I love it. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you guys are enjoying March Madness. Appreciate all
the Cougar fans and Cougar Country. Tune it in. We're
gonna prep you for that BYU Texas matchup. We got
some insider knowledge getting into the previews, et cetera. Check
got the rest of our ESPN the fan starting lineup,
though Kevin Young I had some media availabilities. Sound We're
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get excited to be prognostications. Get his scatting report on
the Texas Longhorns. We'll welcome in breaking day CEO of
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tuned in the three o'clock hour. A lot of basketball
this first hour, uh and uh, and then we'll get
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Ronald of the three Man Weaver will give us a
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basketball at three forty five. Evan Johnson interview with Ronald
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profile at four thirty and then a little sports court
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So the number eleven Texas longharn Longhorns battling the number
six b way Cougars in this first round matchup in
the West re Regional of the NCAA Tournament. It's gonna
be Thursday night, right five, twenty five tip off, Mountain Time,
and BYU a slight favorite in the in this game.
But Texas did win its playing game in a very
thrilling fashion. Came down to the wire at least the
last three to four minutes, sixty eight to sixty six
against that NC State Wolfpack team that can shoot the three,
a top ten three point shooting team in in college basketball,
so I wouldn't say the three point shot failed them.
They still ended up shooting thirty eight percent in that game.
But Texas's defense, which has which had been exposed all
season long from the three point line. They're like ranked
three hundredth in college basketball defending the three. Somehow they
stymied the wolf Pack. So the BYU Cougars are twenty
three and eleven. Most recently they lost to the Houston Cougars.
Many are picking the Houston Cougars to at least get
to at worst get to an Elite eight at best,
and become the national champions. So I feel like after
watching that BYU Houston game, bau fans are a little
bit more in watching BAU in the Big Twelve tournament,
they're much more optimistic about bau's chances. By the way,
the Longhords have lost three of the last five games,
while the Cougars have won three of their last five games.
On the inverse side of that, so Portland, Oregon, it
means a lot of Boa fans are going to be
showing up showing out. And BA holds a five to
two all time series lead over Texas. Last time these
two played was in Provo, Utah, where BAU took down
Texas eighty four, seventy two and twenty twenty four. That
was the last year the Longhorns were in the Big Twelve.
And I think BAU now is a two and a
half point favorite prior to tip off, and I think
the score total is projected the over under at one
fifty seven point five, so it could very well be
a high flying, high scoring type of game for the
Longhorns in the coops. Now, reflecting on that twenty twenty
four game, remember the student section did the Horns down
and Mark Pope said, this is not who we are,
this is not good sportsmanship.
Speaker 7: Some other people it also at Yu whose names I
won't Mention also had that same thought.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit over the top in my opinion,
but I get it. We're staying we want to be
on brand. We gotta be kind, we gotta be christ like.
Speaker 5: I was doing horns down any different than doing the
you down.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 5: That's a legitimate argument, I think.
Speaker 2: Because Utah is the rival Texas and the rest of
the Big twelve, we're trying to ingratiate ourselves and we're
not trying to like be the thorn in everybody's side
and have like a bunch of good plays that are
being thrown at us. We're trying to remember we were
stiff armed for almost a century from the power structure,
decades upon decades of stiff arming, and some would say
religious bigotry or even institutional bigotry. Institutions if ire learned,
didn't want anything to do with BYU. The only individuals
that wanted anything to do with BOU were the athletic departments. Uh,
and they said, hey, the eighties were like, yeah, we
want them to come here because we're going to sell tickets.
That's it. So that being said, that's where we stand
in this game. A little preview. Let's get into some
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Complete Circuit Electric UTAH dot com Kevin Young were These
were his opening remarks in preparation for this first round
matchup versus the Longhorns.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just excited to be back in this tournament. And
I've been pretty vocal about how much I enjoyed this
tournament just the way it captivates, UH, the whole country,
and feel fortunate to be here. Portland's been great to
us so far, just as a host city. I know
our guys are excited. You know, how had a you know,
a long night obviously after figuring out who we were
going to play, but feel good about our preparation and
excited for the game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Sounds excited, is he is? He just going stock with
us here? Like you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Mellow, mellow bro right melos not even a melos, Probably
higher than what.
Speaker 2: He felt like in that right, excited, very excited. You've
talked about how you're on this third iteration of this
BYU team with all the increase of sustained What do
the players hang on to in order to get to
this third iteration and find success.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about it before, but I think
just uh, you know, I'm big. I'm big this time
of year on you can't just make stuff up. You
have to rely on the things that you've done through
the throughout the course.
Speaker 2: Of the season.
Speaker 1: With our team right now, you know, it's that that
season's been short just in terms of who the iteration
of this team that we're playing. And so I think
the things that they've sunk in their teeth into are
are things that allow you to win a post season,
which is you know, defense, which is rebounding, you know,
which is playing together offensively. That's what this group's found
some success with. And so those are the things that
we're trying to carry over into.
Speaker 2: The tournament, trying to you know, you have to build
up confidence through experience, and experience is is earned right.
They've earned, I think the right to be in the
NCAA tournament. They've earned the you know, the great thing
about the steaming is like they had a tremendous amount
of success early on, and then they had significant adversity,
and now they're back on kind of the success training.
I think they're probably very grateful for what they've gone through.
And I think there's a renewed sense of urgency. We
saw that in the Big twelve tournament.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that's a really intelligent question by
whoever asked it, Like, this is not the same team
that we watched four months ago, This is not the
same team that we watched.
Speaker 5: Three weeks ago. Yeah, this is a a new iteration
of that team.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 2: You know, like.
Speaker 5: You never know what you're gonna be, what who you
are going into the tournament.
Speaker 7: Like if you cover and I think you don't get
that privilege if you cover college basketball at a national level.
Speaker 5: It's really hard to track an identity of a team.
But when you track a team like we do.
Speaker 7: Like it's really easy to see the very small incremental
ups and downs and new identity and changing And obviously
it's easy to track that when you have a team
who loses key players and things like that. But it's
not about who were you in December? Who you in November?
Like who are you in March? Where are you trending?
Are you hot right now? And this is I think,
oddly enough, this might be the best version of BYU
we've gotten all season.
Speaker 5: And I mean no disrespect to Richie or Dawson Baker.
Speaker 7: Had those guys played the full season, like, I think
they would be really good right now. But without those
guys they struggled. But sometimes through the struggle you find
out who you are. Right Sometimes through adversity you're forced
to do things you never would have done when things
were easy. And Ag kind of says that later in
the media Availabilities we'll listen to. He was like, dude,
high school was easy for me. It's like I didn't
really I could get away with a lot of things
because that was bigger, faster, and stronger than everybody else.
And with BYU, it was like ky in your non
Con you were better than pretty much every when you
played outside of Yukon.
Speaker 2: Got it because no one in non Con.
Speaker 7: Is gonna be really as good as the Big Twelve
unless you're playing a team like Yukon. And for the
beginning of Big Twelve play when you had Richie Sonders
and you guys could just drop one hundred points like
it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 5: You didn't have to learn how to play defense.
Speaker 7: Losing Richie Saunders, you're like, okay, man, now we got
to learn defense, and we have to find some leadership
on the team. As we'll hear from Kennard Davis later,
this is the best version of BYU that I think
we've see and all season because they were forced to
do things they never would have had to do otherwise.
Speaker 5: And that's what makes me feel confident about tonight.
Speaker 2: Love that breakdown from Brett always bringing the hammer hammer
time show coach. Twenty two years ago, you were playing
D two against Kannisas State in the Beach Belt Tournament.
Speaker 5: Your brother is a is the.
Speaker 2: Kennesaw sid and Kanasa, Kansas State's coach is an XBAU coach,
an interim coach. Fast forward, you're the You're the coach
at BAU, and your brother is now on your staff.
You end up and you end up with Kennesaw in
the same bracket as you in the NCAA tournament. Can
you speak to a kind of your career or all
of this kind of coming full circle?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean careers are especially in mind most of
them are. There's minds of Windy Road. I think many
of them are. There's no real straight lines to head
coaching roles. Yeah, so it is kind of for one,
I feel old that that was that long ago, But yeah,
just I mean, basketball is a such a cool sport
and and the things that you're able to do career wise,
Like I said, well, you're weaving over here, weaving over there,
and then to kind of have things. You know, just
when I was walking through the tunnel, I saw the
Kinnesas State you know name played up there. So you know,
it's just it's cool and you know, it's it's just
a lot of good memories. I think for me when
I think back to like my playing days and and
and seeing them now here and I'm here, it's just
kind of a nostalgia.
Speaker 2: Look this this is a basketball family. That's what stands
out to me about k Why And they've been bald
as life from the day they were probably born. That's
what's so crazy about it. Like, look I look at
my own family and like, you know, we're kind of diverse.
There was musicians, there was athletes, right, there was a
little bit of everything. We weren't like this like crital
brand of like this is who we this is who
we are, this is what we do. I don't know
about your family.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 7: That's how I got sisters in theater and you know,
played sports and my dad played the guitar, Like, so
I'm with you, Like I.
Speaker 2: Like really do it.
Speaker 7: Like we got percussionists. We're like on the love each other,
that's the brand. But outside of that, like we're all
very different each other. We're all we all support each other.
We're a village.
Speaker 2: We're our own little community anyway. But like the young
family is, basketball is is life. Ball is life, and
there's a lot of virtue in that, and that's how
you get to you know, that's how you get to
kind of elite status sometimes is when ball is live
and you're you're willing to Like I don't know if
they thought they were going to coach. I didn't know
if they thought that they were gonna be in the
s I d I didn't know if they you know,
they wanted to play ball. And his brother, Justin, he
was running tournaments recruiting and now he's the director of
recruiting over b YU. But like, I don't think they
they knew what they necessarily what path they were going
to go. They just wanted to be in the basketball world,
which is pretty cool.
Speaker 7: But isn't that kind of just the underlying theme of life,
Like your life never goes how you think it's going
to Like I'm sure, I'm sure if you told Kevin
Young four years ago, hey man, you're gonna be the
head coach at b YU and you're gonna be coaching
the number one player in America, You're gonna be the
NCBA tournament and be like, dude, I'm in the NBA
finals right now, Like why would I ever go to college?
Cause your life just goes and bob's and weaves in
ways that you never would have expected. Same with Justin Young,
Like if you told him twenty years ago, hey, you
and Kevin Young, he's gonna leave the NBA to come
to BYU and you're gonna come with him.
Speaker 5: And you guys gonna go grab the number one player
in America. Like it's just.
Speaker 7: It doesn't ever go. And it's not just for them,
Like that's for you, that's for me. Like life just
doesn't go how you think it goes. However, the successful
people in life are the ones who say, Okay, that's fine,
I can adjust. I'm not gonna be rigid and I
have to go straight. I'll weave if I have to weave,
or bob if I have to bob. And again you're
seeing that success with Justin and Kevin. They love basketball,
that's the underlying theme. However they have to do it
to be a part of success in basketball. They'll do
whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: I think it's cool that, like everyone's in the basketball world. Yeah,
really that's really intriguing to me. K Why what lessons
can you take from last year's tournament, the run to
the Sweet sixteen and this year?
Speaker 1: Man? Well, I mean even like similar even to the
NBA playoffs, Like you really just have to focus on
what's in front of you. If you can't, I think
that's the biggest and number one thing for me, just
focusing on, you know, the task at hand and not
worrying about you know what's to come. Uh that that
that that that cost me in my NBA life. I
think a playoff series or two where you're looking too
far down the road, and even even within the game itself,
you know, like that like the two games yesterday, you know,
both teams probably felt that had a lead, felt really
comfortable probably at one point, and then you know, you
blink and they're about to lose the game. And so
I think just a constant level of focus on the
task at hand is super important. And and then kind
of what I said earlier about you can't you can't
make stuff up this time of year. I think you
got to be really careful with that as a coach. Yeah,
sure you might see some things on film at all
if we did this that could take away their X,
Y or Z. I think you gotta be super careful
about doing that and just having the guys you know,
trust in and what's gotten you to the point that
you're at.
Speaker 2: Gotta trust what got you to the point where you're at.
He said that now multiple times.
Speaker 5: That's really interesting.
Speaker 7: I wonder if there was a point either this season
or last season where they thought they saw weakness that
they felt like they could blow up and exploit and
it ended up backfiring on them because it wasn't necessarily
really an identity of who that team was.
Speaker 2: Because to your.
Speaker 7: Point, we heard him say this this time, and I
believe last media availability he was like, you can't, you
can't look too much into something, which I think partially
is just part of March right, Like, it doesn't matter
what your record is coming into the tournament. Everybody's playing
in a vacuum, everybody's starting, nobody has any wins until
you win. And so it's interesting that we've heard him
say that now a couple of times. I'd love to
know what the game was that made him say that,
and maybe he's always felt this way, maybe it was
an NBA game, But it is really interesting we've heard
that in back to back media availabilities from him. But
I think it's a key identity to this team, where,
like we heard him say before he started saying this,
we got to be simple defensively and kind of just
let him play ball. I think it works generally, and
it works for this team because when they were overdoing it,
which we heard him say, they were just stuck all
over the floor and they weren't necessarily assignment sound. So
I think what the tournament needs from you is what
this team is built for, which is don't focus so
much on the.
Speaker 5: Game plan that you forget about playing ball, like just
go out there and hoop.
Speaker 2: Which I think this team has that identity. I like
that breakdown from Bread always bringing the hammer. What is
the identity? I think we, as AJ stated, we know
what our identity is now, and we're all believers that
they know their identity. Any Big twelve can parisons, right,
now k why de texts anything that can prep you properly.
Speaker 1: I mean they're I think from a personnel standpoint, yes,
you know you can. You can kind of point to say, hey,
this guy plays like so and so. This guy plays
like so and so in our league, which we have.
I mean, the big fella, I mean might as well
be wearing an Arizona jersey in terms of how he plays.
And then the you know, the like Pope's a great
shooter off the dribble, and you know, he reminds me
a little bit of Anderson just in terms of his
shooting piece. And then and then Mark and Swain. I
mean there, I think Swain's a lot like Agent, to
be honest with you, just a big wing that can
do a little bit of everything. So I think we're
we're focusing it more. I think personnel, why style of play.
I mean they're you know, they they are what they
are in terms of posts of heavy ice, so heavy
trying to get to the foul line, that kind of thing.
So I don't know, stylistically I would compare him to
necessarily anyone in in our league, but in terms of
their personnel, you know, we've drawn those comparisons.
Speaker 2: So, Texas is a pretty good rebounding team, right, They're
on par with probably who byu is and rebounding maybe
slightly better depending on the game. But they're they're pretty similar.
They're pretty similar in like their ability to rebound. They
are long, they're athletic. I think the average you know,
about thirty eight rebounds per game or so, and they
do a really good job on the offensive glasses where
they win like they're they're tenacious on that. We talked
about that yesterday. So yeah, I think he's right. I
think you kind of pick and choose kind of like
certain players. But uh, you know what team that they
face this year as most akin to him? Like, which,
what's the worst three point defensive team that gets great
offensive boards and easy putbacks second chance points? You know,
would it be? I don't know, would it be Kansas?
Is Kansas the you know, the closest thing to him?
I don't know, because you don't have a big seven
putter either, Like it is a Hodgepodge, it's to Hodge.
I don't think there's any one team that really aligns
with what would Boa has faced thus far this season.
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like this is the game where you
wish you had fos Tria.
Speaker 7: Because remember last year when they played was it VCU
that had those two at like just I think they
were like seven too, like they were monsters. They weren't
necessarily super strong, but they were so long and we
were like, hey, how's Fu's gonna handle these guys.
Speaker 5: He's bigger, but they're longer, and Fus handled them. This
might be the game where like you're like, man, we
think Fus could body up vocatitis.
Speaker 2: You don't have that guy, so that we I we
have one back to the basket player on this team.
You know who it is?
Speaker 5: I honestly don't. It's Aj Okay, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's the only one that has a
bag with his back to the basket. That's it. Nobody else,
do you feel like nobody.
Speaker 7: I don't want to disrespect anybody because Hadeem Keba and
Abdul I'med are like good at what they're good at,
But I don't get the vibe that like any of
them can get their own shot, like they need.
Speaker 2: A putback, they need he can make his own shot
if he really wanted to a little step back, little
right right, Yeah, no, I'm just talking about the big guys. Yeah, no,
big yeah.
Speaker 7: No. So I think are gonna have to play a
lot of like AJ on the end and then kick
out and see how that goes. Yeah, is gonna be
a problem, which it would be really interesting to like,
like you could do that with AJ.
Speaker 2: You know who I should I should ask this to
Dave Rose. They used to post up Kyle Collinsworth all
the time, he's a point guard. But then they would
just post them up all of a sudden in their
half court sets, and he would do work, you know
what I mean, he would do work a lot of times.
AJ's taking the ball from the perimeter and then Kobe
like from the start, backing guys down from the extended
win and that's his back to the basket game and
he draws doubles, et cetera. He can do a lot
from there. I mean, he gets into the key there
the elbow and and and you know his pomps and
ball fakes and things that nature. He's just tremendous. But
AP were in my ear a little bit. Did you
want to chime in on this? Well?
Speaker 3: I was, I was just gonna say on the big
guys like I don't think any one of them can
get a shot.
Speaker 2: The most likely would be Headen, but.
Speaker 3: We just haven't seen anything from him. There no, because
the other two are just like Capa's CABA's mobile, but
he can only do things at the rim, like Fido
doesn't look mobile at all in my opinion. But but
in terms of this matchup, people forget like, like we've
heard the narrative that once you get to the to
the NCAA tournament, you don't have to deal with the
Big twelve physicality. It's like Texas was in the Big
twelve two years ago and they're not.
Speaker 5: Left because they were too soft, that's why.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying they're not far removed from the
Big twelve. It's not like we're getting a team that
can't be physical. And so I think Bay needs to
be in the same mindset that they were in the
Big Twelve, that you have to play through a lot
of contact and let the officials make the calls, don't
go foulbating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's get to a few more soundbites. Try
to wrap this up with k Y. Let's get to
number six. You guys have played in a lot of
showcase standalade games. How do those kinds of situation prepare
you for a high pressure moment like this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's just comfort in the known, you know.
I think that's part of the reason why we wanted
to play in those games, just to give the guys
the experience of playing in you know, NBA Arena is
a playing in in showcase type events where everybody's watching
and talking about you, So it's not something that you
have to you know, get used to already. I think
our guys have a have a comfort level, and that's
that's the beauty about guys like AJ and Rob. I
mean they obviously this is March Madness and it's a
it's a it's a it's a one of a kind event.
But those two guys in particular, they have been playing
in big events their whole life, you know, and so
I think they're accustomed to it.
Speaker 2: Like that. Yeah, I mean, I'd agree with that. We
don't have a we don't have a nervous team. The
only nervous person on this team is Alexi and maybe
a deem or not a deem, uh be? Do that
those are the two nervous.
Speaker 7: Nellies, right, Like I wouldn't call it nervous, But what
what adjective would you use to describe like the lack
of offensive efficiency.
Speaker 5: Early in games as a whole team.
Speaker 2: I think that's more. I think my opinion is that's
more on the coaching staff than it is on the player.
I put lack of offensive efficiency on the coaching staff
because their self scout was poor. That's my opinion. You're
not getting the looks that you've been practicing, like and
and look, when you're getting the looks that you've been practicing,
typically those those shots go down. Those shots go down
because you've been getting those looks. So I think it's
a self scout issue. That's where like last year, you
saw Ky elevate his game. So I'm intrigued to see
if it changes, if that first half is a little
bit different in this NCAA tournament, because there was a
big jump in offensive efficiency in the first half. Yegor
started hitting right like everybody was getting looks that that
that they liked and they felt comfortable with.
Speaker 5: He saved.
Speaker 7: I don't know if saved something the right way or
like he knew something that everybody else didn't.
Speaker 5: Don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know what phrasing to use, but like that
is kind of how it felt, and that's kind of
how it's felt the last few games.
Speaker 5: I could see that repeating itself this go around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, a little little holdback here
and there, trending when it matters most, Kevin, I was
we were walking around in the back. There were five
cameras around AJ. It feels like by was in a
bit of a documentary. And by the way, a J
hopped onto uh to Sports Center too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Rob Wright was also on ESPN. I mean AJ did
like ten podcasts over the last week. I swear no,
I'm telling you, like remember my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they want, they need, they want
Brigham to make a run. How do you make sure
someone like AJ, who was super famous, processes everything around
him without being in the spotlight or maybe being distracted
so much.
Speaker 1: That's a great question, And I know the feeling when
you're walking around with all the cameras everywhere. For me,
that was that's been a process of uh, just watching
him in that in that spotlight, so to speak. I
think he he's he handles it so well that I
don't worry about it. I mean, I had a conversation
with his dad, you know, before the season even started
about you know, how many how much noise was around
him and things of that nature. And you know, if
I felt like the cameras and this and that were
a distraction, you know, I would be a little bit
more hesitant to welcome some of that stuff around. I think,
like I said, I think he handles it all really well.
He's a mature kid, you know. And I don't even
call him a kid. He doesn't even seem like a kid.
He seems like a grown man, honestly, And so just
the way he handles himself, I think gives me a
lot of confidence that he's able to understand that that
comes with the territory in terms of like the cachet
that he has, but it never really affects his ability
to go out and perform in the game, and in
some ways, I think it helps him perform better.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, look, I think it's probably
a good thing that he is making the rounds, creating
some hype, creating some spotlight. I think b Way's about
to make a run. If they don't, I'll be severely
significantly disappointed. So I don't know how much of a
distraction some of this it really is for Aj and
his playmaking ability. I think for others, maybe for him,
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Speaker 2: Before we get into this segment, let's give you a
little scoreboard update. Duke is only down five with seven
fifty three left in the second half versus CNC that
has been up by double digits throughout most of the game,
so they can have started in. Duke is making their
way back, making this a game, So watch out for
that one sixteen seed that upset. It's only happened a
few times in BA or excuse me, in bracketology history,
so that could be one. I think Duke's gonna pull
this off. I think they're gonna.
Speaker 5: Figure it out.
Speaker 2: But something to watch. McNeice the twelve seed versus number
five seed Vanderbilt. McNeese is only down three with fourteen
fifty nine left in the second half. Forty five to
forty two. Michigan State up twelve to eight versus North
Dakota State. That's in the first half, thirteen thirty three
left in that first half. Arkansas skunk in the Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors right now, eleven to zero. That's still in
the first fifteen to fifty four left. TCU ended up
knocking off Ohio State sixty six sixty four in that
nine to eight matchup. Nebraska destroyed Troy in the four
to thirteen matchup seventy six forty seven. Louisville knocked off
South Florida in a six to eleven matchup eighty three
to seventy nine, and then high point with the bracket
busting twelve five upset eighty three eighty two. The three
Pointers were reigning and they they took the Badgers to
the wire. And ended up coming out victorious with a final,
last second cherry picking shot. It was glorious, It was beautiful.
It was fantastic. So that's a little scoreboard update. We've
been breaking down the BYU Texas matchup as well. K
Why sound We're gonna get more into that. Give me
your scatting report on Texas. How do you think this
game plays out? Cougarnation. I'll put that out as a
question of the day here momentarily, But k Why. This
is what he had to say about about Sean Miller
and AJ couple last sound bites before we move on.
You won k Y two Big, You beat two Big
twelve champs. You went toe to toe with Houston as well.
What do you feel about this team's identity and how
it's grown since Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Texas Tech game at home, the
last game at the Marriott Center was a massive, you know,
jumping off point for our team. I thought the Iowa
State game was gonna be that, and we beat them,
and then we uh, you know, I've been I've talked
about how poorly we played after that, so we had
to find another moment. I thought the Texas Tech game
was that moment gave us a lot of confidence going
into the Big Twelve Tournament. So I think the thing
for me that I like the most about the Big
Twelve Tournament was on the first night, we broke the
Big Twelve record, Big twelve Tournament record for points in
a game, and then the next night we had our
best defensive performance of the season, and then the night
after that, you're in a three point game in crunch
time against a Final four contending team. So there was
a lot of things. I think they gave our guys confidence,
and that's that's kind of what I shared with them.
I mean, but I don't even really have to say it.
I think they I don't think, I know that they
feel it. They feel confident, they feel and they understand
why we were able to do those things, and so
it's easy to replicate when you know why and you're
confident and why your season's kind of turned around.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's so there's some insight from k
why about turning the season and anything. Stand up to you,
Hamper time show.
Speaker 11: I'm so grateful man that they did what they did
in the Big Tell Tournament, because if not, we're sitting
here going, hey, Man, wouldn't it be cool if by
you pulled off the upset and won a game, Like
I know they're six seed, but it wouldn't have been
the upset, but it would have felt like, b why
you getting the upset?
Speaker 5: Had they won that game.
Speaker 7: But again it comes down to what we've talked about,
like Kevin Young just seems to do his best coaching
when he gets to the end of the season. Now,
small sample size, obviously it's two years, but I think
in the NBA it's a lot different. Again, you have
more games. You also have greater continuity from year to year.
So maybe it's Kevin Young early and maybe it's this
is just how he is when he coaches college because
he just he doesn't have a full enough grasp of
who his.
Speaker 5: Team is because maybe that's just not something you can do.
Speaker 7: And once he gets a full grasp of who they are,
then he figures out how to get the best out
of them. Like, certainly in the moment that you needed
it against some of the best competition you were gonna
see all season. I think we probably feel like the
way they played Houston was probably I know that's they
lost that game, but they have very few wins against
like the top five ranked teams that they played this
season that I would argue was probably the best one.
Speaker 5: But either way, they're playing their best basketball right now.
Speaker 7: Here's here's what's interesting though, Texas and BYU in their
last five game or in their last ten games BYU
five and five, Texas five and five averaging seventy eight
point one points per game is BYU, Texas averaging seventy
eight point three points per game, BYU averaging thirty two rebounds,
Texas averaging thirty two rebounds, BYU.
Speaker 5: Eleven assists, Texas eleven assists. You get the picture.
Speaker 7: Like everything stat for stat in the last ten games
is identical. Not identical competition, mind you. However, they both
played in conference tournaments recently. It's gonna be really interesting
to see how this thing boils down. But I do
feel like we can be confident knowing BYU is going
to be playing their best basketball in March.
Speaker 2: Aj needs to go off, in my opinion, I was
looking at single season scoring records. He's about seven points
away from becoming the second all time single season score
in BYU basketball history, just passing Devin Durant. Do you
know what he'd have to do to catch Jim Er
for debt. A number that is not feasible would be
my guest, six games. He's got to get to the
National Championship game, and he's got to average thirty four
point eight points per game, so.
Speaker 7: He's probably gonna have a fifty piece in there in
order to get there.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the interesting thing, Like let's say somehow
someway by some sort of luck, destiny, help from the refs,
help from Deity, whatever, it may be sure that they
get to the Final four and they get to a
national championship game. The only way that you can surpass Jimmermania,
Because that's just to take a step back when when
when AJ committed to b YU, we were having debates
with like Jonathan Taverna. I remember show, and I was like, guys, nothing,
I was very adamant that, like I just don't see
it happening. It's going to be very difficult to surpass
anything that jim Ermania built and what they did, and
the virility and the pomp and circumstance that surrounded it
was viral before anything was actually viral, right, Like that's
what it was, the only way you surpassed. That is
to get to probably a Final four, right, and AJ's
going off for like thirty five points per game.
Speaker 5: But that tells you how ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Like that's kind of
how for me. I mean, it could be an Elite eight,
but like I think he'd have to get I think
I think you'd have to get to a Final four.
It could be an Elite eight though, But if you're
averaging like thirty five points per game and you knock
off Perdue, you know what I mean, you knock off Oh,
we're in the Elite eight for the second time ever,
Like you do something that's only been done twice and
be ay basketball history and you and you got passed
where jimmer and his squad did that was a little
bit shorthanded as well. That may just surpass Jimmerman because
everyone's gonna have eyes on AJ. Everyone's gonna be talking
about AJ. He's gonna be the number one overall pick.
He's gonna be on every show. We've already seen it,
Like you said it ten different podcasts to surpass jimmer Mania,
that's what you'd probably have to do. AJ would have
to do it. Can he do it? Is he up
to it like he's said, like he's internalized, He's like,
I need to help my team win. I me and
like he needs his teammates too. But I hope he
gets the whistles that we hope he is.
Speaker 5: I hope he does.
Speaker 7: I hope he Like that's just how crazy Jimmer's record is,
like it is again, he would basically he only got
to sweet sixteen too, he'd have to have a couple.
And we feel like AJ has been above average when
it turns to scoring the basketball all season.
Speaker 2: You know he's met quota right when you say average,
I don't like to say anything average with AJ. Did
that mean he's.
Speaker 5: Above what I would have expected?
Speaker 2: You know? That's why I say quota, Like he's hit.
He's met expectations and probably to a certain degree even
like overachieved per expectations, right.
Speaker 7: And to me, that's like quota yeah yeah so, But
like either way, what he's done this season has been
nothing short of remarkable and even still as good as
it was with let's also contextualize you're scoring more points
in college on average than you were back when Jimmer
was doing it, and even still AJ would have to
go off for like thirty five points a game all
the way through the Natty to just have a shot
at breaking Jimmer's record, That's that's pretty absurd. And that's
why to me, like it is, it's it's not even
it's comparing apples to oranges.
Speaker 5: There's no world.
Speaker 7: To me, AJ would have to like have two one
hundred point games in the tournament for like him to
beat Jim Ermania. Because the other thing you have to
remember is like what Jimmer did was unexpected because nobody
knew who that kid was. Everybody knew who AJ was,
so when Jimmer did it was like, oh my gosh.
When AJ did it, it's like, yeah, that's what he's
supposed to do, even though it's incredibly impressive and I
love it in all of those things, So I don't
think it will ever pass your Romenia. However, I think
there is a world where AJ has an all time
March madness run that national media remembers and they could
see Perdue in that round and maybe move on, maybe
you get a rematch with Arizona.
Speaker 5: Who knows, But like I do think AJ is poised
for a big march.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask this question Polar that he's there a
pas for b Yu and aj in which twenty twenty
six surpasses the craziness, the the virility, the the the
the the eyeballs, and the pomp and circumstances surrounded Jimmer media.
Is there a path? You know what I mean? I'm
gonna ask that question. See what b what you fans
have to say about it.
Speaker 5: Let me, I want to ask you this question because
you remember much better than I do.
Speaker 7: But like, let's just take expectations at the beginning of
March Madness by us, expectations like the last week or so,
not not the beginning of the season, but like the
last week and a half two weeks compared to what
Jimmers was entering the tournament.
Speaker 2: I mean, like like every no, it's not even close,
Like everything that the momentum.
Speaker 7: Like who had higher ex who did you expect to
go further in the tournament? At the start of the tournament,
b Yu was a three seed.
Speaker 2: They were three seed, like they were going to the
Elite eight and Final four with that squad, and then
an honor code violation occurred, and then like you know,
and then we had to you know, go all pharisee
and Sadducee on everybody, you know what I mean, like
throw stones at people and and then force them to
sit on the bench as well. It's like, really that's
how we so stupid anyway, But anyway, it's neither here
nor there. But like, no, it doesn't even hold a candle.
Now if be like if bau Manage basketball was a
three seed right now or a two seed, maybe you
could compare. But Jimmermany is in it's a league of zone.
The only way you suled pass Jimmermany is by going
farther deeper in the tournament. In Aj is like this icon.
AJ and Rob become these icons for BYU and and look,
there's gonna be heroes along the way because you need
a supporting cast. There could be a dem hero. There
could be an Alexi hero, that could be a Dominique hero,
right like you know, you never know where these uh
these heroes will when they'll pop up. So AJ said,
part of his decision, this is one of the most
you know, interesting things right that came out of the
media availability. AJ said part of his decision to come
to BUA he was there was that the resources you
guys had to develop him into a NBA player, not
resources as his money. He said he had some bad habits.
What do you recall about those bad habits.
Speaker 1: I think the big thing with him that I've tried
to talk to him about a lot of it wasn't
even basketball related in terms of skill set stuff. It
was approach. It was demeanor, it was body language, it
was you know, no, like just a killer mentality where
it's like you're you're He's obviously super talented. Most times
he's the best player on the floor. And I think
sometimes early he would he would show too many reactions,
and I you know, I said, hey, man, every great
player I've been around, there is no reaction. They just
get the ball and they go get a bucket, that's
the reaction, or they get a stop.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: I think there was too much looking at the ref
or there was too much flailing and so forth. And
I think he's for the most part nipped that in
the bud. That's probably where I went with him straight away.
I think mid about halfway through the Big twelve slate,
I think he I think he either got tired, he
just kind of hit a little bit of a wall.
I said, brother, wait till you get to the NBA.
You haven't even played it fourth of your season yet,
so get used to it. So I think he's still learning,
you know, That's where his age does show, just in
terms of learning, like what it takes at the at
the highest of high levels. And then in terms of basketball,
I think, you know, just he's a very good decision maker.
I think sometimes he's had to learn how to do
it just a little bit a little bit more consistently.
And then kind of in that mid year slump, as
I call it, I thought his defensive energy there was
a lot more to be desired, so it should we
challenge him there and just taking the coaching a little
bit harder. Like I just one time I had to
pull him aside and I said, hey, man, like when
you get to the NBA, if an assistant coach tries
to correct something on defense, even if you think you're right,
and don't say anything, just say okay, coach some little
things like that. But he's so coachable, like he really is.
And that's the thing I probably love about on the
most is he's very very coachable. He wants you to
coach him hard, he allows you to coach him hard,
and he responds you know, to what you ask him
to go do.
Speaker 2: So AJ was looking for coaching, was looking for preparation,
was looking for development. Right, there was another SoundBite. I
sent it to you AP I do want to play
this as well in this segment before we move on
to the final final comment from ky I do want
to play this one just because it kind of coincides
with with this particular commentary. No one, not many believe
that AJ came to BYU to be developed.
Speaker 5: I think most people still don't because they just believe
what they want to believe.
Speaker 2: And AJ was asked a question about Nil right about
you know why he came to B and B B
YU And this was his comments from yesterday's media availability.
Speaker 9: It depends on the situation on the player. In my opinion,
a guy like me, you know, I came from a
great background, great parents. We always have money growing up.
So for me, my ausman goes to NBA. So I
picked BYU because they had the resources to development. So
I'm most NBA ready to get to the NBA. But
there's a lot of people. I'm just's a situation where
you know, parents might not be as you know, money
or you know, some of stuff like that. So other
people might, you know, choose the money. But if you're
talking for me personally, I choose BYU because of development
process and it wasn't really for the money.
Speaker 5: It depends on the situation.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is everyone thinks like a AJ admittedly, he's like,
we had money growing up. We didn't have We didn't.
We weren't. We weren't in we weren't destitute, we weren't
in poverty. We were we had money. Mam and Dad
are educated and you can see it, you can hear it,
you can see it in how AJ operates and how
he has operated. Does that make sense? Like, so he's like,
it wasn't I we had money? Now was it millions
upon millions of I was? We don't know, we don't
know what they're net worth?
Speaker 1: Is right?
Speaker 7: But I think the popular thing today is like everyone
wants to pretend like they came from nothing and that
they were hungry and.
Speaker 1: That they didn't have anything.
Speaker 5: And a lot of people that is the case.
Speaker 7: But there's a lot of people who it's like, hey, dude,
like your dad's making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
when you're a kid, like you're not poor. I realized
that you didn't have the PS five the day it
came out, But you're not poor. And so I really
respect AJ for saying that I'm with you. I don't
think he's saying, oh, yeah, my dad made millions of dollars,
because I believe, if if memory serves him right, I
believe Ace was a police officer for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I don't think they were like racking it in.
Speaker 7: But I think what AJ's saying is like, I didn't
grow up hungry all the time like we My parents
took good.
Speaker 5: Care of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so when he goes out of his way to
say this, and he says that I came to be
with you because I wanted MBA preparation. Should I want
to get coached up by NBA coaches? Right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: And then you hear, K, why's you know? His focus
has been do you want to be coachable in the NBA?
Don't talk back, change your body linings? Do you want
to be a goat? Like the greatest players? They don't
get emotional, they stay stoic, they don't throw their hands up.
Actually Lebron, Lebron does. Lebron's maybe not a good example,
but don't be like Lebron, be like J You know
what I mean.
Speaker 7: There's a whole question about this media availability about Lebron, right, Like,
I mean, yeah, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2: But I love the way Ky coaches and how he's
mentored AJ. And I think we've seen we've seen progress
from AJ in his body language throughout the season. Last
thing from Ky. Sean Miller was asked, uh, you know
who who? Maybe maybe AJ? Reminder as you said, he
really can't think of anyone, but he's kind of a
positionless player. He did mention though, Lebron James here, let's
get into it. Lebron James is what KA why had
to say? Piggybacking off to Sean Miller comments.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're going specific to Lebron, I mean, I
think Lebron. You know, I've had a several playoff series
against Lebron, and so when you go through a playoff series,
that's when you really get to know players because you're
all the preppar all the film you watch leading up
to the series, and then obviously in the series itself,
and when you do it multiple years in a row,
you feel like you know these guys, like to back
your hands. So, I mean, I think the thing that's
so impressive about Lebron that AJ could learn from is
just a decision making the passing. He's just so gifted
in that area. I think they're very similar in transition
as well. I mean, imagine AJ when he puts on
about twenty some pounds of muscle on him coming down
hill at you like Lebron as I can promise you
you don't want to be on the other end of that.
Haven't seen it in person, but I think those are
probably the two areas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a Lebron guy. I'm just not a
I'm a Lebron fan. I have a tremendous amount of
respect for arguably the best player to ever play the game. Uh,
but I'll take I'll take MJ and I'll take Shack.
I'll take them dogs over Lebron every day, every all day,
every day. But yeah, once he puts on twenty pounds,
AJ puts on twenty pounds and he gets downhill like Lebron.
I don't know if he'll ever be as thick as
Lebron because Lebron was never that spelt.
Speaker 5: Well, and Lebron also was a specimen of a human being.
Speaker 7: So it's like, it's not just easy to get a
body that looks like Lebron, and it's not easy just
to put twenty pounds on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to find how much aj Or Lebron
weighed when he was drafted.
Speaker 7: The remember they keep giving me is two forty to
two forty five, And I'm like, but they say that
now he weighs two fifty. There's no way he weighed
two hundred and forty pounds when he was drafted. You've
seen those those pictures. I know he wore a big
suit when he got drafted. He was still skins more
like two sixty five when now, Yeah, but how about you,
there's no way he was two forty when he got drafted.
Speaker 5: I think he was.
Speaker 2: I think he was like two thirty.
Speaker 7: Oh, you're saying he just weighs so much more now,
Like Shaq was listed at like two fifty.
Speaker 2: Like that dude's four hundred pound easy.
Speaker 5: There's three hundred men of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's three hundred and fifty coming into camp
and maybe gets down to three twenty during the season.
I don't think there's any way Lebron's two forty, right,
I feel like he's like to sixty five. Like that
man's he's massive. He's a massive human anyway. Uh, that's
Kate Wise commentary from media availability. We'll call that a segment.
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