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basketball BYU basketball season is right around the corner. They
tipped off essentially their exhibition season at Nebraska. They fell short,
but it's just practice. We're talking about practice here. Despite
a late surge from its newcomers, Number eight b YU
fell short in a ninety to eighty nine exhibition loss
to Nebraska at Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Speaker 2: The cool thing was.
Speaker 3: After this loss, they had a high high power jet
that got them to Provo right before kickoff, and aj
De Bonds and the basketball players were first row of
the rock, rising and shouting as the Cougar football team
beat up on the utes. But let's talk basketball with
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in the six foot eight two and twenty pounder out
of Brasil. Let's welcome in the uh the one, the
only Jonathan Tabinari for three JT Jonathan Tabernari.
Speaker 2: How the heck are you, buddy?
Speaker 4: I keep getting taller, I keep getting leaner, and I
haven't worked out even yet.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine when I actually get started working out
with Kyle Collins, work man, I'm gonna be six one ninety.
My goodness, what.
Speaker 3: Did you guys, finalize on. I said, I'd throw in money.
I don't know how much, I'll know whatever, right, But uh,
but what did you guys finalize on for this weight
loss challenge?
Speaker 4: So the reason why, the reason why Kyle said I'm
gonna give him a thousand dollars is because I'm like, look, man,
basketball is now my job anymore.
Speaker 5: You know, I run tech companies for a living out
ben you know. And then I have talked about.
Speaker 4: Sales, and uh, I'm busy, man, you know, I work
on startups.
Speaker 5: I speak you know, four or five languages, and I'm busy.
And so the last.
Speaker 4: Thing on my mind is you know, stinging shape because
in my mind, I don't need to be healthy. Well,
I don't need to be in shape for me to
you know, close deals.
Speaker 5: I mean in front of my computer. I'm working out
of you know, on a road.
Speaker 4: And so Kyle's like, well, let me throw some money
for me to see if that's going to incentivize.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, Kyle, a thousand bucks then you know, like,
let's just at least let's make that well, you know.
And I told him, I said, hey, look, let's do this.
Speaker 4: Let's do something for the giving machines like, I think
it's pretty cool. And so on Thursday, I'm on a
road right now, I'm in North Carolina.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm on the DO campus for some business.
Speaker 4: And on on Thursday, he and I are getting together
doing an official weight in and see where the thing goes.
Speaker 3: I love it, man, well, I support you and your
quest to lose some lbs, but also to do something
good with the money raised, which you always do. I
love and appreciate your brother and willing to support you
anyway that I can. But this bou basketball team, you know,
some people you know got eyes on this team nationally locally.
Speaker 2: What did you make of it? What did your eye see?
Speaker 3: The good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly in this
exhibition game versus Nebraska?
Speaker 4: All So, I remember how you know, when we did
the show, a lot of times you go, let's go
with the nitty, greedy, you know, and then you said
you know you would didn't do also the good, the.
Speaker 5: Bad, and the ugly. Let's start with the good.
Speaker 4: Y aj debansa an absolutely terror, a nightmare.
Speaker 5: For opposing defenses. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Then, just like Aaron Rodericks said, that bear running the
ball the way he did against Arizona's unsustainable? Is aj
getting to the line ten times the game sustainable?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have a hard time imagining that anybody can take
that level off counting right, Michael Jordan did it, Kobe
did it, but there's not a ton of players you
know that actually did it, you know once the adjusted
the rules. James Harden, you know, kind of disappear, right, Shay?
Now you know Shy Goody is s GA Alexander? You know,
is he going to disappear?
Speaker 5: And so to be determined?
Speaker 4: Right, what I can tell you is that he is
not your typical freshman. And you know, I think Bhim
asked me, asked me last week is he going to
live up to the hype? And my brother in Christ,
I can tell you he will live up to the
hype because if he did that on a on a
I don't want to say, you know, half a because
he was going full speed and you could tell. But
can you imagine when you know the popcorn actually has
the extra butter on it, and you know the tickets
are actually sold and all of this stuff, My goodness gracious,
And so I would say that that band is the good,
the bad what I.
Speaker 5: Would say is probably the fact that.
Speaker 4: Kevin Young is going to have a hard time with
the rotations. And I don't think it's going to be
an early situation like it was, you know, him figuring
out the Foo situation, like if you remember last year.
But I said this all along, he had a really
clear path to figuring it out how to get foos
and how to get Keva in the game. And he
got their rotation down pretty quick, and and he figured
that out and it was a smooth one.
Speaker 5: The problem is this year.
Speaker 4: I you know, how is he going to play Xavion?
Because Davion is going to be a love threatch but
I don't think that for right now where he is
in his career, he's going to be much more than that.
And so how do you then play Kadeen and how
do you play Dominique? Which I was, you know, incredibly
impressed by their physique, their body, They look like NBA players,
They look like they along already right still whise they're
still developing and so but to me, the main question becomes,
how are they going to be able to do that
and develop quick? Because you know it's it's going to
be interesting when Keva comes out, who's the inside presence,
who is going to protect the paint?
Speaker 5: Who is going to cause the teams to collapse? And uh,
you know and.
Speaker 4: Create the space, which kind of brings me a little
bit to the ugly, which is I personally was expecting
more out of Richie Saunders. Now I'm not saying Richie
played bad, you know, like you know all you know
that lightning and thunder will strike me right now, I
don't mean that, but Richie was the very help me
out here with the word then he was almost like nonchalant,
like he was waiting for, you know, the ball.
Speaker 5: To come to him. And I don't think that this
is going to be a team.
Speaker 4: For now that it's going to have a ton of
bulk movement like it was last year.
Speaker 5: Aj needs the ball in his hands.
Speaker 4: To the effect if we saw that, you know at
the game, how many times.
Speaker 5: Did you have a chance to watch the game, then by.
Speaker 3: Way, yeah I was capable of watching it. And look,
look what type of offense do you want? Do you
want a pro style offense or do you want a
collegiate offense? And and well if age is going to
be when when Rob's out and agent is going to
be your primary ball handler. I think you're gonna get
a lot of ISO. That's just the nature of this
game right now.
Speaker 4: And and and I don't disagree with you, which is
why I said that that to me was the bad.
Speaker 5: Figuring out the rotations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the one with with Xavion, to me is just
a tip of this here.
Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. Robert right can go like he
can go.
Speaker 4: Go right, And and we saw in the first five
seven minutes he made some move that like he felt
like it felt like he was a like a senior
in high school playing against seventh graders. Like he looked
like they he made people look stupid. And that's fine.
The problem is you need to have you need to
have either AJ or Robert or Richie on the court
at all times. Now, when Robert and AJ are on
the court at all times, you can have more of
a pro style offense where it's more isolation. When Richie
is on the court by himself, you need to have
a Letsay there.
Speaker 6: You need to have you know, potentially Kadeen and Dominique
and Canar Dave is there because the ball needs to
move and Richie is a system player in terms of
the ball needs to move and needs to rotate so
he can catch.
Speaker 5: It on the go and go.
Speaker 4: Richie is not a giving the ball and I'm going
to create a shot that's not his game.
Speaker 5: And so that to me was the.
Speaker 4: Ugly is you know, in terms of I, you know,
Richie an incredible season last year, right, and we've all
due respect to a J right, And I don't mean
to put it down, and we're talking about the number
one recruit in the country, but like, Richie has been
there and done that, and I expected, I probably would
say I expected a little bit more out of Richie
in terms of his impact, but he felt like he
was a little bit hesitant because he was giving a
lot of room to AJ to operate. But I don't
think that it's necessarily only Richie's fault, right, I think
that this is one of those things that Kevin Young
and the staff is going to have to adjust the
rhythm off the game, you know, and then if I
can just throw one last seam, there is just you know,
the three point shooting, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, Mihilo's supposed to be a shooter.
Speaker 4: Ale Say is supposed to be a shooter, but we
actually saw AJ be more of a shooter than anybody else.
Speaker 5: And so again props to AJ.
Speaker 4: But who's going to be the guys that are going
to spot up and catch and shoot and open up
the floor for everybody else.
Speaker 2: That's my an Now the game ban Yeah, I love that.
Let me give you a quote from Kevin Young.
Speaker 3: He said three things I wanted out of this game
was to see our starters together, rob out AJ Wood,
shooters around him, and our defensive group. I feel good
about learning more about our group based on those criteria
that I laid out, no matter who we had out there,
just being able to play a team like that who
is well coached. That's Fred Hoiberg is a really good coach. Offensively,
they run their stuff super hard. That was a good
thing for us to experience. On the defensive side of
the ball, do you feel like you know, I mean,
this is all repetition we're talking about here. They're going
to get better defensively as well. One cohesion having it
on the defensive end as.
Speaker 4: Well, Right, Yeah, I totally agree. I to be honest
with you, Ben and listen, people like to make fun
of me j T who couldn't guard anybody.
Speaker 5: Go look at the stacks.
Speaker 3: Now you bodied up, bodied up some dudes. Man, you
got out there.
Speaker 2: Great for it.
Speaker 4: But but if you actually look at but Ben I
was never a grade one on one player.
Speaker 5: I was a great team defender exactly. And if you
look and if you.
Speaker 4: Look at the metrics and the stats, I'm one of
the top five top seven defensive players in Duyu history
in terms of wind share. Because when you have a
system down and you have people with high basketball IQ,
which you know I would probably say I have, that
makes the game easier. And so defensively to me, obviously,
it's not a concern as I watched this Uyu team,
because they will figure it out.
Speaker 5: They had enough guys there, you know, with.
Speaker 4: Will and John and Chris Burgess and the whole staff,
they're gonna be okay defensively right offensively, you know, finding
a ridm on offense, it's a whole lot more difficult,
you know, because you know you can't you know, it's
difficult for you to change the DNA of certain players,
you know.
Speaker 5: And so how can how can to me?
Speaker 4: And I told you this from the again, John Rothstein
has said, well, how is BYU gonna deal with the subs?
Speaker 5: And the bench. That's not my number one concern for
the year.
Speaker 4: My number one thing this year is how soon can
Cavin Young figure out the dynamics between Rob Wright, Aj
and Richie because those are going to be his three
leaguing scores this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Aj de Bonco scored nineteen of his team high thirty
points in the first half is the freshman win. Ten
of nineteen from the field, two to four from the
three point line, eight of eight from the charity stripe.
He also had seven rebounds, three assists, three steals in
the block. That's a nice healthy stat line. Kadi Maboo
he recorded a double double as a retro freshman with
eleven of BYU's thirty nine rebounds. He also went four
to four from the field and four to four from
the charity stripe. Richie Saunders and Alecxi Coastick also reached
double figures, finishing with eleven points up piece and the
Cougar shot forty five point three percent from the field. Uh,
but thirty two point three from three point range. You
alluded to maybe three point shooting. You want to see
a little bit more efficiency maybe from the three point line.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think that when you look at when you
look at what made u i U success, what makes
UIU successful last year? Right, and we're saying last year
because that was Kevin Young's first year. The he was
absolutely three point shooting and facing Now this is a
completely different roster. You have a team. You start with
the point guard where you have a scouring first point
guard right in comparison to Yegua. And then you have
a two guard who is arguably the best two guard
that has ever played at Uyu. And so as you
make all of these things and all of these these
these these distinctions.
Speaker 5: You know, you have to figure out a way. You
have to figure out a way too, You have you
have to figure out a way.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm just trying to walk away from This's like
wherever growth, it gets you worse, but you have to
figure out a way to adapt. And so to me,
this year, the number one thing that becomes important is
how can you find more space for everybody to to operate?
Speaker 5: How can you find more space for a gagword to operate?
Speaker 4: How can you find more space for Richie to actually
catch him penetrate?
Speaker 5: And you know, we didn't see a ton of debt
in the game. We saw a lot of individual work
one on one, which, again.
Speaker 4: I get what you said about a pro style offense
versus the collegiate offense. But you know two, you know one,
you know your leading returnings for is not a individual
one oh one, create his.
Speaker 5: Own shot type of player.
Speaker 4: He's a system guy that needs the ball to rotate
for him to be successful.
Speaker 5: So how will Kevin Young adapt to that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm intrigued, no doubt about it. JT.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to rivalry talk. I know you love
to talk a little football. One of the debates I've
had with friends and foes, when BYU football beats the Utes,
is there more just happiness and Cougar Country than when
when BYU basketball beats the Utes on the hardwood? I
would say yes, that the collective fan base is happier
when we win on the grid ironers opposed to on
the hardwood.
Speaker 5: What say you? Oh?
Speaker 4: I would agree one thousand percent with that, and that's
because of their magnitude. One football game means way more
than two basketball games, right and right?
Speaker 2: I think from JT, who drives the ship, who's at
the helm?
Speaker 4: Hey, I've always said it, man, be you know, football
rides this show by all Mese, you know. So I
have always said that, you know, and I think because
of the impact of that one win, you know, not
necessarily not only because it's your rival, but it's because
it's a massive win against the component.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to Utah.
Speaker 4: It's your hater rival and with and I think you
know the successes of lates of Utah versus you know,
the constant failure that Utah basketball has been, you know
since pretty much under Bogut left town. It's you know,
it's a team sport when it comes to college ben basketball,
when it comes to college is that seems sport?
Speaker 5: Right? Very few people are like, oh, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Follow you know, this team, and I'm a I'm a
I'm a Utah State fan because of Jordan Love. Nobody
says that, right, They're not a Utah State fan. People
didn't become a UYU fan because of Gym. They were
YU fans before, right. People are not, Hey, I'm going
to be a YU fan because of aj No.
Speaker 5: People have been v YU fans.
Speaker 4: And so with football and the impact and and the
things that that are of consequence because of that win
become a magnitude and so I a thousand percent agree
with you. One BYU football win every year over Utah
means more.
Speaker 5: Than you know, all of the wins.
Speaker 4: Against Utah in basketball for the last ten years.
Speaker 2: JT.
Speaker 3: What did you make of the win over the Utes
this past weekend?
Speaker 2: How did you watch it? How'd you consume it? And
how'd you celebrate?
Speaker 4: I was at home, you know, my my boy, my
oldest boy, Xander is getting really into it and we're
watching it. He had friends over the house. You know,
I enjoy I don't enjoy going to the stadium. I
think the atmosphere and the experience is great. It's just
not my my favorite. And the reason why I say
that is because the reason why I that is because I,
you know, it's super loud, and I enjoy being able to.
Speaker 5: Mute the you know, the TV. I able to get
up and get some snacks, go to the bathroom. You know,
I'm just I don't know, but you know, from your.
Speaker 3: Own creature of convenience, that's what you are. You're a
creature of convenience, which is.
Speaker 4: Why i'm you know, which is probably one of the
reasons why it led me to gain you know, one
hundred and fifty pounds as I retire from playing basketball.
Speaker 2: And I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 4: Pace with who I am and with the choices that
I have made. It's true, you know what I mean,
and so but I am a creature of convenience and
you know, but again, right, what a fantastic win. And
watching the cut, Ben, you and I are very similar
of the way we feel about by U.
Speaker 5: And every time I watch the cut, I get emotional
like it.
Speaker 4: I get emotional because like I remember, and I know
you do too, because I mean, you even came from
me in scholars you know, from being a walk on to.
Speaker 5: Then earning playing time. I remember what it was like to.
Speaker 4: Work and work and work and work and work and
sacrifice and sacrifice to be able to earn and to
get victory, right, and to see other people going through that,
like it's emotional to me.
Speaker 5: And even more so you know at the end when
they sing the fight.
Speaker 4: Song and the things Kalan he say, and so you know,
what a great weekend for Kugarnation and a massive basketball
game here in about three days that I can wait
to see.
Speaker 5: How by does Let's go.
Speaker 3: Uh can't wait to watch you can't wait to see
it JT. Always a pleasure, always a blessing talking ball
with you. We'll chat again next week as we were
recap hopefully another big win for BYU basketball and football.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, brother, Amen and always in forever.
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry it looks like I have, you know,
Elmer Fudd bouncing over here to get the.
Speaker 5: Bugs bunny, but always in forever gokus, my friend.
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It is time for my favorite segment, college football segment.
We're going to celebrate the win over Utah and I
want to ask this question in this segment, is that
Youtah team that is comprised of some very talented football
players NFL draft picks. You know, Kleb Lomu, Spencer Fonnad
both probably gonna be first round NFL draft picks. At tackle,
you have Smith Snowden, NFL defensive back Taylor Johnson. Like,
go down the list of high level football players for Utah.
It's a good football team and they have good coaches
as well, well resourced. Is that Youtah team that by
you just beat, the same Utah team that has been
winning in the Pac twelve for the last few decades.
The same type of team that wins ten plus games
and goes to bowl games every year and goes to
Rose Bowl games and then loses those games. You know,
is there on the cusp of elite to great greatness,
but struggles to get over that hump.
Speaker 2: And I would conclude that they are.
Speaker 3: They're just in a better conference now. But to talk
about it, to discuss it, it's gonna be. It's gonna
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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome in Jared Bledsoe of Utah Protective Films,
former BYU wide Receiver to discuss the topic of the day.
Speaker 2: Jared, how theck are you goodd really well and thanks
for having me.
Speaker 5: Ben.
Speaker 3: It's always great to to just celebrate the win over
the rival foe, the University of Utah.
Speaker 2: Break this down for me.
Speaker 3: What do you think is this this Utah football team
that BYU just beat on their home field?
Speaker 2: Is that the same team?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Is that the same type of team talent wise, coaching,
staff wise, resource wise that was dominating the PAC twelve
and BYU has just surpassed them.
Speaker 7: I think you're going down the right path on it.
You know, I think that they every year Utah has
some NFL quality guys, guys that get picked up, guys.
Speaker 2: They've been putting guys in the league for a long time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's what they needed in order to be
successful in the Pac twelve, I think, And if you
if you look at some of the BA Utah game
and you kind of analyze some of their their strengths,
their offensive line really good and in fact, I think
they played really well still against BYU. But what they
lacked is that our DB's outplayed their receivers. So you
got this number one offensive line in the nation, who's
who gave the quarterback way more time than he needed
on a ton of plays. I mean, we couldn't get
to him, and then when we did a side staff
move around a lot more time, but he couldn't find
anybody downfield open. So that's where I think they've got
some superstars in different areas, but they don't have enough
to fill those voids. Just like I don't think they
had a receiver that was dominant enough that they had
a go to guy that could get open every time,
or they would have hit that guy sure on a
lot of those plays. But I think you're down the
right path on it. I think you guys are always
going to be a very good team. They're always going
to have good players, good coaching. They have the means
to do it. But on the other hand, was the
Pac twelve what the Big twelve twelve is today?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Utah, the team that was the odds on favor to
win the Big twelve last year, didn't even go to
a bowl game, had the physical you know, smash in
the mouth that they did not expect getting into the
Big twelve. Pac twelve, they were the most physical team
in the conference more often than not. Even versus the
likes of Washington and Oregon and USC they typically got
out athleted in those games. Yeah, yeah, more so than
they did get out physical. So offensive and defensive line
trench warfare is what they want at they move up
to the Big twelve, not as dominant as they were
in the Pac twelve in my opinion, And look, they're
a good team this year. This is arguably a better team.
There's a reason why Kyle Whittingham came back an additional year.
Speaker 2: He did not retire after last year.
Speaker 3: He saw the talent on this football team returning like
they could compete and win in the Big Twelve, and
they have, but they've also lost a tough one on
the road to their rival, and they lost at home to.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: And there's parody in college football. We know that, But
I think they're the same team. And BYU has just
surpassed them, and it hasn't taken them that long to
surpass them since arriving.
Speaker 2: In the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: And we're only at a half share right now. By
we're not even at that full share yet or revenue distribution.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 7: But do you hear Aaron roddicks that he was on
the coordinator's corner, right, and yeah, and he had met
they were talking about the quality of our recruiting and
how we were always a little bit behind Utah back
during that streak when Utah won nine in row.
Speaker 2: We they had better talent, right.
Speaker 7: His comment was, we have better talent now, yeah, you know,
and and and we're recruiting better talent and we're starting
to see you know, it's it's not uncommon to flip
through Instagram and you come across one of those top
top ten, top thirty recruits and there's Alabama, aubur and
all these different schools, and then there's BYU over in
the left corner, you know, as one of the visits.
Speaker 2: And you didn't see that before.
Speaker 7: You didn't see these big time recruits with their Alabama's
and their SEC schools to visit, and then BYU. You know,
So I think it is it is proving the formula
that that Kilani and his coaches are putting together is
proving to be successful and it's just going to get better.
Speaker 3: So then what do you attribute the increase in recruiting to?
What do you attribute you know, the the turning of
the tides. So that's what we're talking about here. We're
talking about the turning of the tides and the rivalry.
Three in a row, now, okay, that's that's a streak baby.
And look, I know Utah had nine in row, but
they also had we had unequal footing. We did not,
We did not have the same resources, We didn't have
the power for affiliation.
Speaker 2: They have never had an honor code.
Speaker 3: The student athletes of the University of Utah, from what
I've been told, their academic riggers are not nearly as
stringent as the academic riggers of YU. All those things
can lead to better recruiting.
Speaker 2: So what do you see.
Speaker 7: Well, BYU, I think where we turned the corner, obviously
is when we got a conference, When we got into
the Big twelve. It changed the prospects outlook on what's
possible at BYU. It before that when we were independent. Yeah,
we got to pick our schedule a little bit and
we kind of got to bounce around. But you had
to win out almost to get a chance to play
in any kind of a playoff or any kind of
a big bowl game. And so it was like one
loss and it was now where are we at? You know,
Liberty Bowl Holiday? Well, you know what, those maybe better
balls now, but you know, maybe you look back at it, it.
Speaker 2: Was it's different. So you've got players that are coming in.
Speaker 7: You know, I was in the stands and I spent
some time with some of the players parents during the game. Utah,
and uh, you know, and I asked those questions, you know, what,
what what brought your son here?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: And and uh, what's keeping him here? Yeah? And that
was it's you need both. You need the acquisition and
then you need the right nowadays, yeah, you have to
keep them, keep them to develop them in your system.
Speaker 7: The mom that I spoke with, I will keep the
players out of it, but she she said, the atmosphere
here what klone brings, and just.
Speaker 2: You have to try to get in trouble in provo.
Speaker 7: You know, it doesn't just come to you just hang
out at the wrong proactively seeking trouble, you know, to
get it. And so as at parents, I think are
seeing more and more of that. I think they see
that this team, the team stays together in the office,
you always are going to lose some there's just no
way around it in this day and age with the
nil and and the transfer portal. But we retain a
lot of players year to year that have opportunities to
potentially make more money outside, but they come back and
I think that gets noticed, and not just the players,
but but from the parents as well, and then just
a feeling of being.
Speaker 2: Here and playing for Klonie.
Speaker 7: I think Colonie has done a great job in building
that that network, and I think we're going to continue
to see a lot of higher profile guys coming out.
I was talking with Justin Anderson on Saturday before the game,
and you know, they had seventy recruits and families at
the ba.
Speaker 2: Utah Gay Wow yeah, I was that is. I was like, man,
you got a huge load to deal with today.
Speaker 7: Seventy recruits with all their families, I mean, and this
was all the biggest recruits were there for this game.
Speaker 2: And what an atmosphere, you know, and think about it.
Speaker 7: How many stadiums out there are full to the end
of the game, no matter what.
Speaker 2: You know. You look at some of the games that
we've played this year.
Speaker 7: And I know Arizona had a rain toe lay, but
it wasn't even close to full before the raindo lay,
you know, and then after it was even worse. And
then you look at these stands some of these games
as teams are getting blown out or they're blowing out
the other team, and their fans just leave, you know,
and all of a sudden, it's it's towards the middle
of the fourth corner and there's like fifteen hundred fans
like BAUS fans stay for the game, you know, and
and enjoy the game, and they're riled up for the
whole game. And what an atmosphere that is. And having
you know, been recruited or being a recruit now and
coming into that atmosphere and seeing that and hearing and
feeling it and then come out with the win and
just the whole atmosphere.
Speaker 2: There had to be some guys leading that weren't by you.
Speaker 7: Guys that that have have them in their top three now,
I really think so. I think they did a really
good job of bringing in the guys at the right time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there were Utah commits in the locker
room post game, yeah, celebrating with the BYU football team.
Speaker 2: So, I mean there's a few flops I'm waiting for.
Speaker 7: I think there's some coming that that the guys that
have signed with Utah that that and I'm not going
to say committed, have committed, yeah committed, Yeah, you haven't
signed yet committed to Utah who are going to look
at their opportunities at b YU.
Speaker 2: I think there's more to that than to come here
in the near future.
Speaker 8: Ap Andrew Peterson, Well, while we're talking about recruits, if
we're looking at this year's seniors for BYU, these are
the recruits BYU was getting as independents, right, yep. And
the recruiting classes are only getting better. We're starting to
get the big twelve guys and like fall Toss Taltsball,
he's a Big twelve recruit and he's showing up big time.
And so I hate to bring that up this question
for the sake of my Utah friends, but are we
going to see a talent gap going the other way it?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what it was before, even in
your era in the nineties, eighties and nineties, I mean
that's what it was. I mean, the talent, the best
LDS talent, the best Polynesian talent, and the best a
lot of the best quarterbacks that weren't getting recruited to
the Michigan's, the Ohio States, you know, the Miami's, the USC's,
you know at that time in that era, right like,
they were coming to BYU because they wanted to throw
the freaking football, right they wanted to throw it. And
so you got a lot of really good premiere obviously
NFL talent to come to Provo at that time. And
there was a significant talent gap until the nineties when
coach McBride took over and started stealing a few of
those guys and creating a.
Speaker 2: Great coach by the way, he created.
Speaker 3: A similar Lavelle kaloniulture there, and it was cool to
be at Utah and you'd have a chip on your shoulder,
and it begs the question, right, you're talking about Kilani
here and the brand and you listen to the postgame
press conferences of Kyle Whittingham and in Kilanie and they're
completely the opposite. And if you're a player, granted, when
you're winning, it's a whole lot easier to be But
there's a feeling nice from him all kind But who
does Who do you want to play for?
Speaker 2: Who do you want to play well?
Speaker 7: And I think there's there's a little limbo going on
with with Utah because when when is he going to retire?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be the end of this year?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: I I think he should have retired last year. You know.
Speaker 7: But that's a hard one to go out on. I
get it, you know. I hope they make a Bowl
game so that he can feel comfortable. Like I said,
he saw the talent. He's like, can win with this team? Yeah,
we can win with this team. But the drive, the
fire isn't there the fire that I've always seen with
with with coach, I.
Speaker 2: Don't see it.
Speaker 3: You know what what extinguished it? It's it's not even
just the rivalry game. I'm telling what it is. It's
it's nil, it's transfer portal, it's buy in from donors.
There's an aging donor population up at the U. And yeah,
they because you're a commuter school. When they're there, they're fans.
It's kind of an ASU feel sure, they're fans and
they'll show up and they're going to party, pregame and postgaming.
Like yeah, like the but I don't know if they
have robust buy in from their alumni base to sustain
nil competitive nature of the top twenty five, you know,
top thirty five.
Speaker 2: Programs of the country that ultimately.
Speaker 3: It necessitates to stay there because they've been there because
of X, Y and Z competing in the PAC twelve
having the resources that they've never had before with the
TV money. They're not there anymore though, Like now they're
on equal footing with a lot of these other programs
and they don't have the NIL to to keep them
in the top thirty five, Top forty year and in.
Speaker 2: Year out, or at least they're teetering there.
Speaker 3: It's not a foregone conclusion that they're invested in. And
I think wis like, well, he's already declared it. It's
his thesis. Like the more you pay, the more you win.
He went on record in regards to Texas Technic. That's
his low hanging fruit. That's what he's saying, like, that's
all it takes. And and he's calling out his own
donor base. He's calling out his nil donor base there.
That's and he doesn't like it anyway. He doesn't like
the variables involved. Is the same reason why Nick Saban got.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I think I think this the older generation
of coaches are seeing the riding on the wall as
to the changes that are being made within and the NCAA.
And if you're not willing to change and just jump
into that cycle, now you can't survive you. And so
either you get out, you change, or you're you start
to fall back.
Speaker 2: And you know, you mentioned the fans.
Speaker 7: I don't know about you, but were you surprised at
how little red was in the stadium?
Speaker 2: Now? I get it. Tickets were expensive, right yeah, And.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, b Yu fans, they don't they're pretty strategic.
These are smart well, I shared fans that know that
when they sell their tickets, they do not put them
on the free market.
Speaker 2: So that Utah fans.
Speaker 7: Tickets on the free market so for me, for so,
from what you were saying is and and what when
we saw we expect like there were ten to twenty
percent of this fan base is in the cra that's
going to be from Utah. And when we were we're like,
you know, I think I think Portland State had almost
the same amount.
Speaker 2: They had a pretty.
Speaker 7: Good turnout in that same sliver corner of the north
end zone. And and so I was, yeah, I don't,
I don't know. You you may be onto something with
the fan base. Not they're not buy used fan base,
you know, but nobody travels like BAU, you know. And
and because we've got fans everywhere that are church related
and whatnot. And but you know, just to jump back
to the game real quick, something that I a couple
of things that I that stood out to me that
I hadn't really paid as much attention to. But one
one was the pocket presence of bear Bachmer one hundred
percent is improved. Oh yeah, I mean just his ability
to step up to make a move. But then the
decision making. I mean there were there were two specific plays.
One was a hand off to LJ where he had
shifted LG to one side, and then hurried and shifted
him right back and handed the ballun lg ran for
like thirteen yards and it was like he saw it,
changed the play and moved him over. And then the
one went with to Preston Rex. You know that that
it was that was the third read was president. If
you weren't paying attention to that, it looked like that
was the play call.
Speaker 2: And then you go watch it and he goes one
to two to three and throws.
Speaker 7: It and it Yeah, and I'm ready to see a
little bit more Preston, you know, get him in the
open field.
Speaker 2: He's finally healthy. You saw he's more.
Speaker 3: Accelerated, accelerative, he's he's more explosive.
Speaker 2: He's faster than what he was even a week ago.
Speaker 7: And I think a Rod's gonna find some ways to
get him the ball in open space.
Speaker 2: He's not the brute. He's not gonna you know, running
through the tackles in the guard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he get him on that outside and and yeah,
and LJ made a great block on that that run in.
But yeah, that was one day. And and then and
then our secondary, I mean our I was so impressed.
But he's guys playing man almost the entire game and
they could lock down to where Dan Pierre was having
such a hard time finding somebody open, and he had
plenty of time, you know, and and uh and then
you know he'd scramble and have to get laid out
and throw it away and take a pic here, and
you know.
Speaker 2: So I was just impressed by by those stats. I
was happy to see us get out of.
Speaker 7: There without any major injuries and and uh, you know,
no targeting calls, and yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was a fun game. It's fun to see.
Speaker 7: I don't feel like there's gonna be quite the letdown
that we had last year after the Utah game, because
the energy, even as a being at the stadium and
leaving after the energy, you didn't feel drained like last
year you're leaving you were like, wow, I don't even
know if I can get up tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was draining. So this year, I think we're gonna
be in a better state.
Speaker 7: And but we got a difficult, difficult battle ahead and
one game at a time, let's see where we go.
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