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ranked junior middleweight and sir hey, Bulletchuck.
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Speaker 2: All right, So we didn't have anything to really recap
off last weekend, but we got some fights for this weekend.
Speaker 1: What do you say we get into it?
Speaker 2: Talk to me, Talk to me about Sugar Noon Yaz
at Waro Sugar Noon Yez and the IBF Junior Lightweight
title defense. He will make with Christopher Diaz. This is
coming on Saturday night in the Matchroom main Events in Mexico.
And if you have not seen him, he's an entertaining
He's an entertaining fighter. There is no doubt about that.
With what I would say and many would say, is
has got a lot of potential here. What about Sugar
Noon yez this defense and whether Christopher Diaz is much
of a threat.
Speaker 1: What do we think?
Speaker 3: Well, just to start off, this is one of the
show like Mattroom has their different tiers of shows. Off
you well, they do their British based next gen shows
that are essentially their version of Showbox. If you will
prospects then of course we know about the bigger shows
they do with major world titles, whether it's in Britain
or in the United Sis. Then they do a handful
of shows every year in Mexico with their partner at
box Stars Promotions, and they put on fights locally interesting,
usually there's a title fight whatever. I find those to
be on a punch by punch basis as entertaining as
anything I see in in streamed or televised boxing today.
They're always good shows, even if you don't know the
fighters necessarily in the preliminaries, so this is the main
event of one of those shows. Sugar Nunyas is a
very exciting, highly entertaining fighter, big time puncher. He's coming
off having won this title. Actually one of the rare
times he went to distance, so only it was actually
got He's twenty eight and one with twenty seven knockouts,
so it's the first time he went the distance in
his one defeat. But he also went the distance and
a win for the first time when he won this
belt in Japan back in May and he defeated Massnori Rikishi.
It was a vacant IBF title and so now he's
coming home the fights in Los Mochis, Mexico, a city
in Mexico that has produced any number of top quality fighters,
including all the areas RSA fighters that have been in
the sport for so many years. So he's defending the
title for the first time. You know, there'll be a
raucous crowd there welcoming him home. And he's taken on
Christopher Diaz, so of course Christopher Diaz. You know, if
you want to rev up the first defense, what do
you do with TJ. You put him in with a
Puerto Rican fighter you make in Mexico versus Puerto Rico.
Christopher Diaz is Puerto Rican by his heritage. He's from Orlando, Florida.
I think if you follow boxing for the last several years,
you're aware of him. He spent many years fighting for
top rank. He has had opportunities. He lost, for example,
in a featherweight championship fight back in twenty twenty one
against Emmanuel Navarette stopped him in the twelfth round. He's
fought other guys. He lost a decision close to Isaac
Dogbay when dog Bay was still really good. He also
had the misfortune in a regional title fight of coming
up against a young ten and oh Sha Course Stevenson
and got ployed with in a one sided loss. He
also lost a shot for a one hundred and thirty
pound title back in twenty eighteen against Macca Massive yuki
Eto good fight. So Di has has had his opportunities.
He's not getting any younger. Most people would look and
say he's certainly past his best days. He was served
up as a as an opponent for a prospect in
Henley Lebron back in December. But look, he's got an opportunity,
that's all. What's the old thing? You know, you gotta
be in it to win it. I was in it
to win it. By the way, I did not win
the powerball jackpot, which is why we were doing the show.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up, but I figured
that it was a given that since you're here and
dealing with me, still.
Speaker 1: You did not win the what half? What? What was it?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: It was? Point two billion and the buyout the half
buyo Texas.
Speaker 2: The immediate lump sum was like half a billion dollars.
Speaker 3: It was one point four on the on the jackpot.
If he took the lump sum, I believe it was
five hundred and twenty five million. My sister texting me
to let me know that she didn't win either didn't win.
Speaker 1: I can confess I don't play the power ball. I
did not win it. That's three of us. Did they
declare where the.
Speaker 3: Winning ticket was and sell one? So it's back we're.
Speaker 1: Got the money they didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, needless to say, these fighters will not be making
that kind of money.
Speaker 1: But again to Sugar.
Speaker 2: Nunyaz, this is a fight that leads to another fight
of probably much more significance.
Speaker 1: Tell me, well.
Speaker 3: We'll see about that. First, he's got to get through Diaz.
I mean, Diaz is a competent fighter. Uh, it should
be a good fight while last, but I you know, listen,
being honest, Uh, Christie is a little bit long in
the tooth at this stage of the game. Even if
he was at his best, went like he was a
few years ago, I'd still have a hard time seeing
Nunya is doing anything other than you know, giving him
the business so to speak, you know, and uh and
punched them out. But uh, there'll be a good crowd.
I'm excited to watch this. Just like I said, I
like these Mexican shows that Matchroom puts on. I find
has to be very entertaining. H he's now got a
world title, and you know, now it's off to the races.
You know, obviously it's the This is the classic example
of let's take the champion home. Uh, not gonna get
him like an easy fight. Necessarily get competent professional, but
they're not exactly matching him with the number one contender.
And if he wins, you know, we'll see what else happens.
The other champions in the weight class are Oshaki Foster,
Emmanuel Navarete, Nouniez has the IBF title. There's Lamont Roach,
who I don't expect is going to fight in that
weight class anymore, which means that James Dickens at some
point will become the full title holder of the WBA.
So I'm not sure if any of those fights are
out there, but let's see him get through Christy as
make it exciting and I'll move on to the next.
Speaker 2: I like that, all right, Speaking of moving on to
the next, but staying in the same country. In Nogales, Mexico,
Oscar Valdez will meet Ricky Medina. Valdez, the former two
time world champs, is a zandfor Promotions card ESPN Deportes
will have it in the United States. Ten round non
title fight here for Valdez, who very much wants to
try to stay relevant in and around lightweight at the moment.
Give me a little more on this in the preview mode.
Speaker 1: If you would.
Speaker 3: Well, he plans to fight at one hundred and thirty pounds.
But given this is not a title fight, you mentioned
its ten round non title belt. I was a text.
I knew this originally and I was just texting with
his manager, Frank Espinoza yesterday just to double check. It
is in fact contracted at one hundred and thirty two pounds,
so just a couple pounds over, no need to suck
down to one thirty. The interesting thing about this a
couple of things. In terms of the broadcast you mentioned
it's on ESPN to port days on a zanfrakard. Obviously,
Valdez has spent his entire thirteen year career with Top Rank,
but they are without a broadcast deal at the moment.
So zanfer is a company that has worked for decades
with Top Rank on a multitude of fighters through the years,
including Eric Morales and Jore Arsa and Oscar Beldez to
some degree on this fight and others through the years.
In any event, they have their broadcast deal in Mexico
TVs Tech, et cetera, so they've got that set up.
So they were able to do a deal where ESPN
Deportes will pick it up. It's not on ESPN plus
the way that some of the other Latin American and
Mexican shows have been over the last couple of months
since the experts on the Top Rank deal. But those
who want to see Oscar Beldez. It is on live
on ESPN Deportees. He's going home to Negallas, Mexico. Now.
Oscar Valdez, who's a two time world champion in the
featherweight division, also won a title in the junior lightweight division.
He's fought some of the best guys out there, but
he struggled with ladies. Trying to make a comeback, see
if he can kind of shake things up.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 3: He's one and two in his last three, but the
two losses were to Emmanuel Navarette most recently in December,
a very harsh, sort of one sided knockout in the
six run in their rematch. He had that very exciting
victory against Liam Wilson Sandwich in between in an interim
title fight. But the thing about Oscar bel does he's
a two time Mexican Olympian, but he only fought two
times previously in his home country in Mexico. He had
his professional debut in Mexico and he had like his
eighth professional fight in Mexico, and now he's going home
to fight in it not only back in Mexico for
the first time in many years, but in his hometown.
So on the one hand, it's I'm kind of make
a comeback, try to get myself back on course to
see if I could put myself in a position to
go for another title at some point. And in the
other hand, you know, come back to where my roots
are now. He's spent a lot of time obviously growing
up in that area, but he also spent a lot
of time in his childhood and growing up in Arizona,
so he kind of claims both areas. But I'm sure
they're going to be happy to have him back headlining
a boxing event in Nogallas. So he's in with Ricky
Medina from San Antonio. Sixteen and three, not a big
name opponent or anything. He's three and three in his
last six fights. Most known. I guess if you looked
at his record, the guy you'd recognize as he lost
a pretty much of almost a near shutout when he
fought up against Raymond Ford. This was before ray went
on to win a world titleight featherweight in the WBA
featherweight title. But nobody's expecting Valdez after that kind of loss.
Not a big money fight, not a big platform necessarily.
They're just they're putting him back in against a solid pro,
just to see if he can make some kind of
comeback and put himself in position. One thing about Oscar
beldaes when he fights, man, you know this. I know
you've watched his fights. You don't get cheated. He makes
a good fight, right. He's a classical mech. He's a
good boxer, but he just loves fight. He's also by
the way, he has parted ways with his longtime trainer,
Eddie Renoso. He's back his original trainer who had him
for many years. That's Amaney Robliss, who's one of the
top trainers in boxing also, so he's back training with him.
I don't expect we're gonna learn a lot from their
pairing in this fight, because this shouldn't be, you know,
a massively strenuous fight. But sometimes because of the way
Oscar fights, he makes fights tougher than they need to
be because he likes to get it mixed up into
a brawl. But we'll see. But Oscarvalda has been one
of my favorite fighters to watch for a very long time.
I've covered his career from day one. I've been to
many of his fights. I like him a lot on
a personal level. Really class at guy, like his team,
like his dad. You know, the whole crew have always
had a good relationship with the manager, Frank Espinoza, like
they're just a good group over there. And you know,
if Oscar can come back and put himself in position,
as I said, if he gets another opportunity, he ain't
gonna cheat anybody, because he comes to fight every time
that bell rings.
Speaker 2: And of course he scored that spectacular knockout of the year,
was it the knockout of the year was certainly one
of the candidates with Burchelt right, absolute left hand knockout.
Speaker 1: That's been a while ago.
Speaker 3: And by the way, some losses. That was twenty twenty one,
he stopped them in round ten to win the WBC's
one thirty title. Everybody was picking Burchelt. I'm on record.
You can go back and find that I picked val
this to win, and that was.
Speaker 2: Count for the purposes of our preview podcast. I'm just
saying doing it yet in twenty twenty one, but I'll take.
Speaker 1: Your word for it.
Speaker 3: If I'm sad, listen.
Speaker 1: To listen, let's see it.
Speaker 3: By the way, if he gets back, we've had falling
on hard times himself. He's also coming back in the
next few weeks. He's got to fight coming up, So
they're both going to.
Speaker 2: You're back in my camp. They're never retired, no matter
who they are, they're never retired. They're always got to
come back, all right, So Valdez again, it's a separate
card and it's ESPN Deportes.
Speaker 1: Good luck finding it.
Speaker 2: You'll probably see the highlights on social media, YouTube, et cetera.
If you can't find it live. That's disappointing that it's
not on ESPN Plus. My god, I pay enough as
it is.
Speaker 3: I asked Top Rank about that because the ESPN Knockout
Show that they've done, where they brought in the Canazales
title fight from Venezuela, they brought in another zan for
card right recently with Rgi Cortes, the junior bantamweight contender,
and those were simulcasts both live on ESPN Deportes and
on ESPN Plus. They showed the simulcasts of the ESPN
Knockout program. For whatever reason, this one is no.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's on Deportees, but no plus. I asked
Top Rank, and I wasn't really given what I considered
a clear answer, But there so that my method to.
Speaker 2: The madness, ESPN Plus can have a few more channels
of the US open out of court out of court
matches that are all over my ESPN Plus.
Speaker 3: I actually still have cable television, even though I watch
a lot of stuff on Plus, so I have ESPN
deport d's on my cable system, so I will watch
it on cable. I've got the DVR ready to go,
and I'll look forward to seeing it.
Speaker 2: All right, we will see what happens uh with that?
About all right?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: That leads us into again a conversation that you have
had here in recent days with Sir Heey Bullachuk is
the WBC Mandatory challenger at one hundred and fifty four pounds.
He's fighting Brandon Adams, a fighter that he lost to
previously in a rematch on the Canelo Crawford undercard in
Las Vegas. Not this weekend, but obviously next weekend. But
you don't have to wait for fight week. Let's get
to Boatchuk, who was in the wild fight with Virgil
Ortiz and much more dance.
Speaker 1: Gonna talk to him about all of that right now
on the pod.
Speaker 3: Well, it is my pleasure to welcome to our podcast
this week, it is the top junim middleweight contender, Sarah Boachuk. Sara,
welcome to the show. Thank you very much for doing this.
You got an important fight coming up. It's going to
be a rematch to avenge a loss and it will
take place against Brandon Adams. You're fighting him on a
very big stage. It'll take place on the undercard of
the Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford fight September thirteenth that Allegiance
Stadium in Las Vegas. So I'm looking forward to talking
to you about that fight. Thank you very much for
doing this and welcome.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Look, big fight's coming up. I'm
very excited that he is big, show is biggering. You know,
it's very very big chance for me, show my skills
for everyone, everybody, for me, it's it's a big chance.
Speaker 4: I'm very happy. I'm very excited, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: So you'll be fighting him as a ten rounder. I'm
told that the contract weight is one hundred and fifty
six pounds, so just a little bit over then you
know the division limit. It's not a championship fight at
this point. So first of all, as I mentioned, you're
fighting on this big card. You alluded to your excitement
to be on this level of a big show. Just
give me your thoughts about appearing on Canelo Crawford. It's
arguably the biggest fight of the year. A lot of
people think it's the biggest fight in boxing for the
past several years. Now you're not on the main card,
you're on the final preliminary card. But in some ways
that's a great thing because it's going to be available
to that even if you don't have a Netflix subscription,
all over social media, YouTube places like that. So what
are your thoughts on being on the big show.
Speaker 4: Very big show coming up? Sis. No, I'm very very
happy we'll be here in this show.
Speaker 5: It's really big studium and it's a lot of fans,
a lot of people and scam a lot of people, support,
a lot of fans, new fans for me, you know,
I can show more more people my skills.
Speaker 3: Well, before we jump into all the things about the
fight that you're going to have once cover thirteenths obviously
this is a rematch, I want to hear a little
bit from your perspective about the first fight you had
with Brandon Adams. It took place in March twenty twenty one.
You guys fought in Puerto Rico. Sir, hey, you were
ahead by quite a bit on all three scorecards going
into the eighth round. You were in control of the fight.
You know, I just went back and I looked at
it just to refresh my memory on how it ended.
You know, there were just a few seconds left in
that round. You caught you with a good left hook.
He knocked you down, and you did beat the count.
You're a little unsteady reference.
Speaker 5: Now, you know it's four years ago. It's I think
I was young, and I make mistake.
Speaker 4: You know, you're right.
Speaker 5: I beat him every around, and I'm before this fight,
I have record seventeen seventeen go and I can I
think in for one MOC, I can't.
Speaker 4: Go, and I go go go, and I won't go,
and I'm I'll have cool and I lost cool.
Speaker 5: You know it's it's a big mistake. You know, I
make big mistake, and now in this show, I'm fixed
this mistake.
Speaker 3: Did you try to get a rematch with him immediately,
because it's now it's been like four years obviously, I'm
pretty sure and he didn't fight for a while after
that fight, he took like three years off. So did
you press for a rematch at that point? I mean,
you have it now, But what was going on in
the year since that fight that you didn't fight him again?
Speaker 5: You know, I think he don't want this remind you know,
I want to force someone because it's it's mistake.
Speaker 4: It's a big mistake for me. I need it.
Speaker 5: I need to fix this, and I'm very happy. I
have no big chance, show big show show people. Was
mistake and I need to fix this.
Speaker 3: So, as I mentioned, sir, he took off three years
after he follow you, even though he's coming off obviously
at that time the biggest win still the biggest win
of his career, he took the time off. He is
won two out of his last three fights since he
came back in twenty twenty four. He is coming off
of a split decision loss. What are you expecting from
him this time around?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean I'm back and before the
first fight with the Adams, Yeah, I don't have experience
for long crowns.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't have much in six or seven
around fights, you know.
Speaker 5: Now now I have too fights for twelve rounds now
I have to to fight for decision. I know what
is this?
Speaker 4: Now? I know what the twelve rounds? You know? I
know what this? What? What is more rounds? Before?
Speaker 5: I don't know this and maybe I make this mistake
before before I don't know what what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: How many rounds? What? What rounds? I feeling eight round
eight rounds or ten rounds? Now? I know what the
twelve rounds? I have two times twelve rounds and I.
Speaker 3: Know this is only the round fight though, sorry, not
a twelve round fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I know what this rounds fights? You know?
Now I have twelve rounds? Is mendoza? Now I have
thrownds with or kiss and I now I know what
this rounds? But I know what is more rounds? You know?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: And so do you feel like it's a matter of
you just being able to pace yourself better? Were you
a little tired maybe going into that round when you
had your first fighting and you got stopped? I don't
I said, do you feel like you know how to
pace yourself better? In other words, when you fought him
the first time and he defeated you, was it a
matter that maybe you were just getting a little bit
tired in the eighth round because you didn't have that
experience going deep into fights.
Speaker 4: You know, not tired.
Speaker 5: I don't have experience, you know, I don't have experience
for eight rounds, for ten rounds. You know.
Speaker 4: I think he's tired, you know.
Speaker 5: And he's very much his show. He's tired and very
very wet and bunge it. He's very smart, you know,
he's best. He's half with boxing experience.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Okay, you are the former WBC interim champion at one
hundred and fifty four pounds. You're currently the WBC's number
one can tender. You're also the mandatory challenger. And anytime
somebody with that status, the mandatory position, you take a
fight before you fight for the title, you risk that status.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I'm wondering, like what was it about it? And said,
you know what, I can't get the title fight right away.
The champions Sebastian Fundora, he's got a fight coming up
against Keith Thurman. Did you just say, you know what,
I need to stay active.
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: And and whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 4: No, I want to give me a chance, give me
a chance. Fights with the FDA.
Speaker 5: I won this fight. Of course I want this fight
I met in a long time last year. I'm one
alminited fight.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You're you're risking that position.
You have a guaranteed opportunity to fight the winner of
Fendora and Irman, but you're risking that by fighting a
guy that already defeated you one time.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why, why why.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it? You're risking your You're okay,
risking the status. Yes, of course, I'm okay, Okay, I'm
just asking some guys aren't as brave as you. They
want to sit on there.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who, doesn't matter who. I need the title.
Speaker 5: I need the best buxters, I need the best busters
because I need the best boxers can show my skills,
can show my my better version.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people that have become fans of yours,
I think have done so because they watch your great fight,
a twenty twenty four Fight of the Year contender that
you had against Virgil Ortiz. You know you lost the
Intern belt to him in that fight. It was a
very close fight, majority decision, You score two knockdowns. People
thought it was one of the greatest fights they've seen.
I'm wondering, you know, I know you think you won
the fight. Uh, do you still think about that? How
disappointing was that to you to have the two knockdowns,
not get the decision, lose the belt?
Speaker 5: You know this fight, I'm not feeling if I lost
this fight. I don't feel in this And a lot
of people say very much too much. I'm saying not
too much. I can't beat one more time him, and
this time I'm beat four knockdowns, knockouts and now I'm angry.
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing about it is, even though you
didn't get to win in that particular fight that was
about a year ago, thirteen months ago, you've stayed active.
You've had two fights since then. As you're prepared to
go into this fight with Brandon Adams. Uh, there's a
lot of fighters that don't have that kind of activity.
How important was it for you and your team to say,
you know what, let's try to stay busy even if
we're not making huge money for every fight, and to
go in there and just stay sharp.
Speaker 5: You know I need it, Yes, you're I need it
to stay ready. I need it, stay stay active. I
needed everything fights, fights, fights, because when you a long
time don't have time, you the long band, don't have fight.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: You're not good feeling. You know. For me, it's I
need ything. We'll be ready. I need everything is training.
It's good for me.
Speaker 5: I'm feeling great. I'm everything, training and everything. You can
call me and it'll go fight and yes, let's go.
Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm always ready.
Speaker 3: Well, you fight in one of the best divisions in boxing.
I think that the junior middleweight division might be the
best division in boxing. You're right there in the middle
of all the top contenders to be in any of
the bigger fights in the way class I mentioned. You
are in the position to fight. If you win against Brandon,
you're the mandatory for the winner of Sebastian Fandora against
Keith Thurman. They're fighting on October twenty fifth, and since
you're going to get the winner of that fight as
long as you prevail September thirteenth, I wonder what do
you think of that fight? Who do you like to
win between Fandora and Keith Thurman? And I know how
much you want the winner that fight.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm going to for my next fight.
Speaker 5: If I win, when I'm in this fight and I
won't find Sonora, I won't find I think Fundora a
bit Turment, bit Truman, and next I wanna fight.
Speaker 4: Give me a chance, give me the title, so you
you have.
Speaker 3: That in the in the future if you when you'll
get that title opportunity. Whoever is the winner of that fight.
But is there any part of you that says, you
know what I really I want to fight virtual Artis again.
Also because we had such a great fight, you feel
like you want.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look you before, You're right, it's my very division.
It's very very strong now. I think it's my very division.
Supervelitor right now. The best fight division really a lot
of interexty boxers. And I can I can show one
more fights with Ortiz, good fight. I can show with
this Fundora a good fight. I know I have good experience.
I have a lot of spying with him. I can
show Goose fights is from Doura. I can show his
good fights with everything. You know, who is now number ten?
Speaker 3: You know a great division? He's fighting or T'ses fighting Lubin,
there's x Anders has the WBO title, or taz Alaev
has the IB title. There's a boss Burrew who just
showed himself to the world in a recent victory against Hayes.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: How exciting is it to know that that if one
guy says no to fighting you, there's five or six
other really good fighters in the division that might be
willing to say yes.
Speaker 4: You know, I hope.
Speaker 5: Very soon promotes to make fights with from Laura because
now I'm one from tender and number one w b
C and push him. It's I'm wanna fights with him.
Another title might be no no Good Writings and w
b C and number one.
Speaker 4: Chance.
Speaker 3: Before you get to that, you obviously got to take
care of Brandon Adams. I'm wondering when you think about
how the fight will go, how he stopped you the
first time, even though you were winning pretty handily before that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I know the win is the most important thing, but
how how satisfying would it be to not only avenge
the loss, but to do so by getting a knockout
of the guy that stopped you.
Speaker 4: Time?
Speaker 3: And I know it would be very satisfying to defeat
Brandon Adams, but how much more satisfying would it be
to do so by a knockout? Since he did stop
you the first.
Speaker 4: Time, you know, and first time it's.
Speaker 5: You know what when I'm back in gym, what man
in Robus, my coach man, and Robus told me. He
told me it's not lost, it's learning. It's it's not losing,
it's learning and and and the forward straight, you know.
Speaker 3: But it would knockout satisfying than I am very.
Speaker 4: Very very thank you.
Speaker 5: Brandon Adams, because he's teaching me. You know, before fights
with him, I thinking.
Speaker 4: Like my iron.
Speaker 5: Gin, you know, my like my chin iron know I'm
lost a lot of I'm punch it, lost punch it, lost,
lost love and have to fight with him. I'm learning
I can't lost minch. I need it more and more moving,
more and more different, you know. And now he's learning
me for the first time, and now I'm different. Hitl
in interview, I'm saying, no, I know, I'm saying four
years ago, I was young, I was a little bit stupid.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Well, whatever happens, however it goes. I wish
you the best of luck in the rematch, and if
you get the victory, I'm gonna look very much looking
forward to seeing you get the title shot.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, all right, just to finish up there
again the one fifty four where the kids say it's popping, Well,
one fifty four division is popping. We're gonna talk more
about Fondorra and Thurman's press conference. We've got a lot
of interesting names there. This guy is definitely in position
here to get a title shot in the in the WBC.
Give me one final follow up on boatchuk here before
he fights on the Canelo undercard.
Speaker 3: Well, besides the opportunity to avenge a loss against Adams
in a fight he was winning handily back a few
years ago and got stopped, he's also gambling his mandatory
position because he is the mandatory at the moment for
Sebastian Fundor, but that fight is not due yet. In Fendora,
of course is fighting Keith Thurman. So he's staying active
and they've they've given him a chance to avenge it.
It's on a big, huge card like Canelo. Now he's
not on the he's not on the main Netflix portion
of the show. He's the final preliminary. But from one
standpoint of exposure, that's not terrible because that fights, all
those fights are going to be available all over the
place on social media and on YouTube, so people can
certainly see that. But he's in an interesting matchup that
the fact that that's not on the main cart actually
kind of surprised me. So I'm actually of all the
i mean, other than the main event, of course, and
I'm always happy to watch Christian and Billy. That's probably
like the next most interesting fight on the card to me,
even though it's not part of the main card. So
understood the boatchuk wuins, you know, you know at some
point you got to fez to get that mandatory shot.
And uh and like you said, like the kids say,
one fifty four is popping.
Speaker 2: It does appear to be okay. Some news here, as
I said in the t's when is a positive test?
Apparently not a positive test. So the announcement has been
made that Haimi Mongee is not going to face any
disciplinary action from the positive drug test in Saudi Arabia
when he fought and beat Brunos Sirase in the rematch
on May the third. Rayphael, what's going on here? Because
usually usually usually if the A sample is positive, and
if I'm not mistaken, the B sample was positive, right,
this is that means it's goodbye, but it doesn't mean
goodbye here.
Speaker 3: This is not so much about A and B. This
is about again, I'm not a scientist. I don't play
one on TV. I didn't stay at a holiday in
last night. But what I did is see what the
comments were. And just because they the one team says
that I wanted to just make so I actually checked
with others that were involved. I got a copy of
the letter from the British Boxing Board of Control that
was sent to Himian Muggy's attorney And the bottom line
is like it or not, I mean, and again we
don't have the proof. We're not the scientist, but they
both side the WBC's clean boxing program. They do what
they do. The u COD people, which is the British
Boxing Board, was the organization that regulated the event. But
they're drug testing. They turn over to u COD which
is the group that does testing for all sports in
the UK. So according to them, according to the WBC
under their clean boxing program, which is run by Vada,
it was a Vada test. Bottom line is they are
all in agreement that this was in fact contamination within
a substance that is a legal, non banned substance that
presented a false positive according to what the statements were.
That's not me saying that. That's what they're saying, and
so therefore he will not face discipline. They will not
change the result to a no contest. The British Boxing
Board will not seek to have some type of hearing
to punish him. U Cot is good with things, the
WBC is good to say so.
Speaker 2: He obviously had good scientists, good lawyers, good scientists that
could help him on his side. Fans are automatically going
to be skeptical about this.
Speaker 1: And and what it all means.
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is he could be back in
the ring late this year early next year now because
what was looming was at least a one year suspension.
Speaker 3: Oh probably, I would think he'll I would be very
surprised if he's not well. I mean, given he probably
will be back in the ring before the end of
the year, whether it's a top rank event or a
zanfer event. They're working together with him. The main point
is this, though they say in their statements that not
only that it was they gave him their his supplements
to the Big Time Smart Lab, which is a WAT
of credit lab that does a ton of these tests
in the United States, they had his amb sample test
and for that stuff, they did hair filical testing. They
test his nails. They say they went through the whole
the whole business of an extra testing of all the
various things they could do that to take a look
at what was happening, and then they concluded that it
was this contamination. And wait, what can I tell you?
You and I I know this all that one thing
about this Most of the time, I don't believe these guys,
and I'm not sure I believe this either. I'm just saying,
though there are exceptions to every rule, this may be
one of them.
Speaker 2: But you and I have gone all of this and
we don't know need to go for another five minutes.
That in Nevada, for example, they the strict liability. It
doesn't matter how it got in there. You tested positive
for it, and if you tested positive, the explanation doesn't matter.
So it's just an interesting distinction here that they're able
to make that argument because, for example, again we don't
want to go for five more minutes. Ryan Garcia claimed
tainted supplements for his New York Ryan Garcia.
Speaker 3: Although Ryan Garcia sent open cans of supplement to the testing.
They weren't sealed.
Speaker 2: I mean, give me and the other And the other
thing is that doesn't mean that he's not full of crap.
It's just that's what his claim was. He didn't have
the scientist, he didn't have the sealed supplements whatever. So
it's just different in different parts of the world. But
the bottom line is the British Boxing border Control U
Cod and company. They're not going to do anything to him,
so he's able to fight period.
Speaker 3: This is like it never happened, basically, all right, say
it's based like a.
Speaker 1: And Sirase ain't happy with that.
Speaker 2: But guess what the wind goes in the column of
Haimimongia in the rematch the unanimous decision win and we'll
see when Mangia is back in there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of.
Speaker 2: The UK, Joseph Parker, I read my Dan Rayphield substack
while you and I were away on Labor Day weekend
and didn't do a recap pod that Joseph Parker and
Fabio Wardley in the works. Give the fans the update
on how soon we're gonna see this for the UH
for the interim WBO Championship that Parker.
Speaker 3: Has, well, if they get it done. It's it's ticketed
for October twenty fifth. Uh most it'll be diz owned,
probably a pay per view. It'll be at the O
two Arena in London, a great arena. I've actually had
the privilege to cover a fight there before. H And
as you mentioned for a fab Worldy had Well, Parker's
the WBO's interim champion. He's sitting there as the mandatory
right now for the undisputed champion, Alexander Russak. But Usak
is not going to be fighting for a biddies dealing
with the back problem. The WBO is not going to
press the issue. They're going to let him have his extension.
And so in the meantime, Joseph Parker doesn't want to
just sit around and atrophy. He hasn't fought, you know,
in a while. They want, you know. And when he
did fight last time, he was only in there for
two rounds, knocking out your boy Mark mccoley. So he
wants to get back in the get back in the ring.
And in the meantime he got Fabio Wardley, who's the
WBA's interim champion. But again the WBO rules are expressly
clear they do interim titles rarely. Usually they're injury related,
and if they have an interim champion, they want that
it's consolidated as soon as possible. And the other thing
about that is they don't allow you to unify with
some other title, whether it's a full title or an
interim title. So while the WBA would probably do it,
you know, no, you know for you know, with no problem,
uh Worthy is probably gonna have to give up the
WBA interimpell title. For what you care about that the
most important thing is this a hell of a fight.
Like if Joseph Parker is not.
Speaker 2: Risk, it's a risk for Parker in that he's sitting
there waiting for Usik. And they believe because I saw
Frank Warren's interviews as well as the release, they don't
believe the Usik fight would happen before the end of
the year.
Speaker 1: That's why they're doing this, right.
Speaker 3: So they don't. He doesn't want to sit around, and
if Wardley is the winner, he'll win the WBO's interim
title and he'll be mandatory. And the WBO is not
about the person who's the mandatory. That organization is next
in the rotation. When you do a unified or on
un disputed champions. So the next heavyweight title defense of Usik,
as long as he doesn't vacate, is going to be
for the WBO mandatory. So whether that's Parker or it's Wordley,
assuming they get match done, that's interesting. But in and
of itself, Joseph Parker against Fabia Wardley is a very
good matchup. Fabia Wardley. We saw what he can turn
out the lights with one punch, like he did against
Justice Cooney who was easily out boxing him in his
last fight. You have Joseph Parker who's been on a
tear fighting lots of good fighters. Has has quality victories
in recent times. Not only that February knockout of Bikoli
that I reference, he has in his previous fights before that.
He's scored a decision over Zilly Zang. He has to
win over Deontay Wilder. Yeah, and he was active before that,
you know, since he fought Joe Joyce and lost in
a great fight in a stoppage in the eleventh round.
You know, he's been quite active. He's got what seven, three,
four or five six wins in a row since then.
He's one of the more active edyweights. Yeah, I'd like
to get in a second fight in twenty twenty five.
So you know, Joseph Parker has never been once that
stuck anybody, So God bless him for taking on, you know,
for accepting a Wardley and for Wardley step up. Also,
it's it's a high it's a high risk, high reward fight.
They're going to be paid very well, I would imagine to.
I'm sure a very expensive fight to do, and they'll
and by the way, they'll sell that place out there.
Oh yeah, big time gate because that's it. You know,
Parker's well known in Britain, Worley's got a growing fan base. Uh,
it's just a good fight between two of the top contenders.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned on in the official announcement of But it's
looking like late October for that in London. You were
mentioning when last we talked a week ago, the Tea
Fimo Lopez Shakur Stevenson being kicked around as a as
a possible move up for Chakour to fight Taya Fimo
for his WBO Junior welterweight title fight.
Speaker 1: Do we have an update on when this might happen and.
Speaker 3: The lineal title by the way. Yeah, if it does happen,
it would be ticketed for a READ season card in January.
There's still work to be done, but there's no question
about it that they are negotiating this fight. They're trying
to work out the terms. I am told by various
folks that the two fighters are willing to take the fight. Shakor,
I know, is going to take the fight. I think
they're hashing over a few other things related to it.
I'm sure money is part of it, but it's a
fight that Turkey as Chika has shown interest in. It's
a fight that both sides are interested in, and we'll
see if they can get it done.
Speaker 1: Is we talked before?
Speaker 2: Is there no chance it would be in New York
like we talked last week, where it seems to make sense.
I realize what they're doing with the Read season, but
this would seem to make sense to stick it in
New York.
Speaker 3: Okay, right now they're making the sausage, so I would
assume I don't know this specifically, but among the things
that they're trying to work out is possibly location one
of them. You know, maybe I don't know this. I'm
just some hypothesizing. Maybe one of the guys or both
of them would rather fight in the United States and
not go to Saudi Arabia. But if you don't go
to Saudi Arabia, maybe your pay is less because they
want to bring the fights to Saudi Arabia for their reasons,
which is fine, and maybe they would rather do the
fight here because it's not like they don't do fights
in America. They did the Terrence Crawford fight, They've done
the Wembley Show in the UK.
Speaker 2: They're involved in the Ring The Ring, the Ring TV
debacle at Times Square. They did that card as well,
and then they then they had a much better car
with Shakour on it at the US Open Tennis.
Speaker 3: So when I say that it's in the works, there's
it's when you when you put together a fight, especially
one of this magnitude, it's it's it's about a lot
of different things that need to get ironed out. It's
not just the hold the cold hard cash. There's a
lot of things about it. So the bottom line is,
right now, it's just a fluid situation and they're trying
to make the fight for January issue.
Speaker 2: All right, stay tuned on Shakour Lopez. Did we say
that one hundred and fifty four is Poppin' junior middle eight.
They held the press conference Wednesday afternoon in Los Angeles
for Sebastian Fondora and Keith one Time Therm and Clearwater,
Florida is Keith one time Therm and this is for
Fondora's title, the WBC belt and the undercar which has
oh Shaky Foster Stephen Fulton. What did we glean from
the press conference, including Thurman's antics with uh with a
stepping stool?
Speaker 1: Am I correct?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir so, I mean we all know the history
here that Keith Thurman was to post to fight Tim
Zoo last year. He suffered the biceps injury, pulled out
and on like ten days notice, Fendora, who was on
the undercard, moved up to the main event. They had
the blood bath with Tim Zoo got the win, won
the title, won the vacant WBC dele took Tim's WBO title.
They ultimately had a rematch. It just took place in
July where Sebastian Ndora totally dominated and stopped and made
Zoo retire on the stool. He had vacated the WBO
belt by then because he decided to do the rematch
rather than do the mandatory against Xandersyas and he looked
really good in that fight. And so in the meantime, Thurman,
who was hoping to fight Tim Zoo because they both
fought in Australia, but it ended up that he did
the rematch with Fondora. But Thurman came that way from
his back his victory with the win and uninjured and
was still looking for another big time fight. So now
he's going to fight the guy that the guy that
he was replaced against. So you know, I know some
people look at it like woll You know, Thurman hasn't
really been around for a while. He's not that relevant,
blah blah blah. He moved up and wait, but I
can tell you one thing. One Keith Thurman's always in
good fights too. He looked good in his fight when
he came off a long layoff. Granted it wasn't against
a Fundora level opponent. Uh And and yes the division
has loaded, but a lot of the guys are doing
other things right now. You've got but what Chukes got
his fight coming up. Virgil Ortiz has got the fight
coming up against Lubin Martaz leev is negotiating his mandatory
with Josh Kelly, et cetera. So I'm down with this.
I think this is a fun fight now.
Speaker 1: Keith is selling this all the way, no doubt.
Speaker 3: So the best part of the press conference was, you know,
the whole thing about Fundor. We all know the guy's
a giant. He's like the jolly green Jinty's six ft
you know, he's six foot five and a half or so,
much taller than every opponent. So Keith Thurman, who's got
a great sense of humor and a lot of showmanship,
really made it stark. He faced off with him. You know,
he's looking up like in the sky, and then he
went he had his prop with me. He grabbed like
a step stool. He got up on the step so
you could hear one of the pr people go be careful,
be careful, so he doesn't fall off the thing. And
he got up and he's standing on the steps. So
looking down at Fondora, and Fondora, who was like unflappable,
was totally cool. He's like, at the one time, he's
looking down on him, and then when he gets on
this step stol, he's looking up at him and it
was just it was a really stark reminder about the
amazing size that Fondora has that I don't care if
you're fighting Keith Thurman or Tim Zu or anybody in
the weight class, that he's going to have a massive
physical advantage against anybody's size in terms of height, length,
in terms of his reach, and that's going to be
on display. But that's the headliner. They're fighting on October
twenty fifth at the MGM Grant. It's going to be
a prime video PBC pay per view card and that's
the main event. And you mentioned about the co feature
at Oshaki Foster, he'll defend his WBC one hundred and
thirty pound title against the featherweight title or Steven Fulton,
who's moving up in wait. Fulton has been a guy
willing to take on the best. He traveled to and
he lost in a way, but he had the stones
to go over there and do it and gave up
and lost his belts. Thought fought other good guys also,
uh and Foster's been looking for this kind of fight
for a while. Hopefully they'll come to fight and entertain.
They've not always been in the best fights. I'm hoping
their styles will find a way to mess together. And
they made also another fight on the undercard. We've talked
about him before. One of my one of my favorite
guys to watch this for the last few years been
Jesus Ramos junior.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's been fighting at junior middleweight where it's popping, as
you say, but he's now he's had a couple of
fights at middleweight. I believe his plans were to go
back to junior middleweight, but he got this opportunity on
this card, so he's taken on Sugar Shane Moseley Junior
Shane Mosey Junior Sugar Shane Mosey's son. Unfortunately, it's for
an interim title, which I can't stand. But that's besides
the point. They're fighting for the WBC interim title, which
is you know, it is what it is. Adamis is
the actual champion, but nonetheless it's a it's a solid matchup.
And then they don't have an opponent lined up one
hundred percent yet. But the other pay per viewfight will
be the the the junior middleweight Isaac Lucero. They're talking
about him maybe fighting against Tony Harrison, who's coming off
a win from a few weeks ago after a long lap.
We'll see if they get that don or they'll have
some other opponent. But that's your lineup. You got, you know,
a couple of uh, you know, the top two fights
are you know interesting? You got Ramos and Mosley, which
has got some interest on its own, and then Isaac
Lucero and then whatever else they put on the preliminary card.
But that they announced all that stuff and they had
the press commerce on Wednesday, and it'll be a fun
promotion and hopefully a good fight.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: One more note as well, as we've got some time
for that fundorra Thurman to get geared up at the
end of October, and that is that Suprio Mattias is
going to have his mandatory defense with Dalton Smith of England.
But there's now a twist involving the purse bid. Give
us the quick update here on that if you would.
Speaker 3: So you remember that when they had the fight the
Ring Magazine card that we referenced, which was the main
event that was shirt course Stevenson was on the card right.
The main event that night was Hamsa Shiraz in his
victory by knockout against Edgar Berlanga. And after this and
on the undercard, Sabril Mattias won the WBC one hundred
four TIWN title against Alberto Playo. And when the fight
was over, you had Turkey al Sheik in the ring.
You had Alberto Playo in the ring, and Dalton Smith
from England was ring side watching the fight. He got
in the ring, they posed for pictures and Turkey al
Sheik took the microphone and announced that he was adding
that fight to the big card that he's got, you
know coming up.
Speaker 1: As he's prone to do pretty well.
Speaker 3: You know, it's Turkey's world and we live in it, right,
So he's got that big, humongous card on November twenty
second and read which is an awesome show. You know
Benavidez against Anthony Yard. You got Bam Rodriguez against Puma
Martinez to unify at one fifteen. You got Devin Haney
against you know, challenging Brian Norman. He got the young guys,
and that Mason against Sam Noakes. I mean it's a
great card. And then you add you say, I'm putting
Subril Mattias against Dalton Smith. Oh, I make it even better, right, Well,
it turns out he didn't actually have a deal done,
and so the fight was put up for a purspit.
They never made a deal in terms of the all
the particulars that have to get done, and I kind
of thought, well, they might make a deal by the
time the perspit came around, or you know, whatever the
case would be, or maybe Mattroom Boxing, which is the
promoter of Dalton Smith, would win it. And obviously they've
worked closely with Turkey that the fight would still land
on that show. But as it turned out, the promoter
for Suberillmatias won Orango from Fresh Productions in Puerto Rico,
which is where he's from, won the persp at one
point nine million dollars, beat the other offer, which was
from Mattroom at one million, seven hundred and ten thousand dollars,
and so now they've got the rights to do the fight. Now,
then the WBC has said to me they don't have
a specific date, but it does have to take place
within a certain time frame. I believe it's ninety days.
And they've told the WBC they're planning to do the
fight in Puerto Rico, and so they're going to bring
Dalton Smith to Puerto Rico and mount the fight on
their own and so interesting, it won't be on that
November card and it now you know, the question is
I assume that Alton Smith will still take the fight
and travel. I mean, you don't get to that position
to just throw it away. And it's not like he's
not getting paid a nice amount of money. I'm sure
it's his biggest pers so with the winning bid that
was put up one point nine million. Now, the way
the WBC does things, I always find this very interesting.
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 3: I wish the other organizations would do it as well.
That they take ten percent of the winning bid and
the organization holds it and they give it to the
winner as a bonus. The remaining ninety percent of the bid,
so the winner will get that one hundred whoever wins
the fight gets an extra one to ninety one hundred
and ninety thousand dollars as a win bonus. The other
money that's besides that one ninety leaves one million, seven
hundred and ten thousand dollars that is being split on
the seventy thirty basis, seventy percent in favor of the
champion subral Mattias thirty percent in favor, you know, for
a Dalton Smith, so the guys get good perses. You
got you got Dalton Smith as the challenger, who's never
fought a fight of this caliber area and close to it.
He gets five hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. That's good
money for him in this fight. He got Mattias, who
under the purse kid now he could have a side
deal with this promoter for all we know, but under
the terms of the bid, he would be entitled to
one million, one hundred and ninety seven thousand dollars in
like I said, whoever wins the fight, you know, throws
in another almost two hundred grand on top of interesting.
Speaker 2: They'll do that fight look for the same timeline, like
November December, because that's the that's the mandate from the WBC.
Speaker 1: You got to have the fight by then.
Speaker 2: And here's hoping that Mattias looks a whole lot better
than the nerve Gas or whatever happened to him in
the locker room before he fought Liam Paro and did
absolutely nothing in his hometown and got beat.
Speaker 3: You know, you've bring that up a lot when you
talk about Matias, but you forget the fact that he's
had a few fights since then, and he's looked pretty good.
He looked good against.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but that night for whatever reason, and then
and you got to bring it up.
Speaker 3: Well, when we bring up the fact that Duran quit
against Sugar Ray Leonard, every single time he.
Speaker 1: Brings him brought you just brought it up again.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I don't could have brought up
any but.
Speaker 1: You proved the point.
Speaker 2: You could have brought up anything with Erberto Durant, and
the first thing you said was quit against Sugar Ray Leonard.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Thank you, all right, I got the.
Speaker 4: With that.
Speaker 2: I think we've given you a bunch with the news
and with the interview with Boachuk, who's going to be
fighting next week. You and I will recap off the weekend.
Happy football. By the way, I've got to go to
Atlanta with the Buccaneers playing the Atlanta Falcons and the
NFC South opener, Big Dandy, four time defending champion NFC
South Tampa Bay Buccaneers start their season. I'm on their
radio broadcast, so I will be in Atlanta and then
I will be back Sunday night in time to sit
with you and talk about these two separate fight cards
in Mexico again, Sugar Nunes with his IBF one and
thirty pound title defense, and then Oscar Valdez back in
a separate card also on Saturday night. The former two
division world champ will recap those and who knows what
what else we come up with before you head to
Las Vegas, My friend, deal, are we good?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We're good. So while you're off to your game on site,
I'm going to head to my couch to watch the
New York Football Giants Obagas against.
Speaker 2: The Commanders Washington Commanders on the weekend all the NFL
again underway.
Speaker 3: People make the mistake a lot because I live in
the suburban Washington, DC area that I'm a fan of
the Washington You.
Speaker 1: Got no, you got no, elgi.
Speaker 3: I'm a New York fan.
Speaker 2: And you are confirming you are not in Brazil with
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift. I mean for that
after party after they play on Friday night of this
weekend in Brazil against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: You are confirming here you're not part of that side show.
Speaker 2: Uh? Are you invited to the wedding? We'll find out
at a later date and the invitations go out on
the Kelsey Swift wedding. With that, we get ready for
all that's going to happen this weekend. For Van Rayphel,
I'm merely TJ Reeves. Thank you for being with us
here on the Big Fight Weekend Preview