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Speaker 1: You want to be there. Big Fight Weekend YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we didn't have anything to really recap

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off last weekend, but we got some fights for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: What do you say we get into it?

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Speaker 2: Talk to me, Talk to me about Sugar Noon Yaz

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at Waro Sugar Noon Yez and the IBF Junior Lightweight

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title defense. He will make with Christopher Diaz. This is

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coming on Saturday night in the Matchroom main Events in Mexico.

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And if you have not seen him, he's an entertaining

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He's an entertaining fighter. There is no doubt about that.

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With what I would say and many would say, is

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has got a lot of potential here. What about Sugar

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Noon yez this defense and whether Christopher Diaz is much

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of a threat.

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Speaker 1: What do we think?

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Speaker 3: Well, just to start off, this is one of the

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show like Mattroom has their different tiers of shows. Off

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you well, they do their British based next gen shows

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that are essentially their version of Showbox. If you will

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prospects then of course we know about the bigger shows

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they do with major world titles, whether it's in Britain

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or in the United Sis. Then they do a handful

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of shows every year in Mexico with their partner at

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box Stars Promotions, and they put on fights locally interesting,

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usually there's a title fight whatever. I find those to

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be on a punch by punch basis as entertaining as

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anything I see in in streamed or televised boxing today.

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They're always good shows, even if you don't know the

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fighters necessarily in the preliminaries, so this is the main

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event of one of those shows. Sugar Nunyas is a

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very exciting, highly entertaining fighter, big time puncher. He's coming

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off having won this title. Actually one of the rare

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times he went to distance, so only it was actually

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got He's twenty eight and one with twenty seven knockouts,

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so it's the first time he went the distance in

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his one defeat. But he also went the distance and

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a win for the first time when he won this

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belt in Japan back in May and he defeated Massnori Rikishi.

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It was a vacant IBF title and so now he's

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coming home the fights in Los Mochis, Mexico, a city

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in Mexico that has produced any number of top quality fighters,

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including all the areas RSA fighters that have been in

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the sport for so many years. So he's defending the

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title for the first time. You know, there'll be a

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raucous crowd there welcoming him home. And he's taken on

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Christopher Diaz, so of course Christopher Diaz. You know, if

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you want to rev up the first defense, what do

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you do with TJ. You put him in with a

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Puerto Rican fighter you make in Mexico versus Puerto Rico.

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Christopher Diaz is Puerto Rican by his heritage. He's from Orlando, Florida.

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I think if you follow boxing for the last several years,

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you're aware of him. He spent many years fighting for

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top rank. He has had opportunities. He lost, for example,

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in a featherweight championship fight back in twenty twenty one

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against Emmanuel Navarette stopped him in the twelfth round. He's

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fought other guys. He lost a decision close to Isaac

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had the misfortune in a regional title fight of coming

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up against a young ten and oh Sha Course Stevenson

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and got ployed with in a one sided loss. He

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also lost a shot for a one hundred and thirty

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pound title back in twenty eighteen against Macca Massive yuki

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Eto good fight. So Di has has had his opportunities.

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He's not getting any younger. Most people would look and

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say he's certainly past his best days. He was served

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up as a as an opponent for a prospect in

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Henley Lebron back in December. But look, he's got an opportunity,

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that's all. What's the old thing? You know, you gotta

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be in it to win it. I was in it

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to win it. By the way, I did not win

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the powerball jackpot, which is why we were doing the show.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up, but I figured

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that it was a given that since you're here and

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dealing with me, still.

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Speaker 1: You did not win the what half? What? What was it?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: It was? Point two billion and the buyout the half

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buyo Texas.

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Speaker 2: The immediate lump sum was like half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: It was one point four on the on the jackpot.

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If he took the lump sum, I believe it was

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five hundred and twenty five million. My sister texting me

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to let me know that she didn't win either didn't win.

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Speaker 1: I can confess I don't play the power ball. I

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did not win it. That's three of us. Did they

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declare where the.

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Speaker 3: Winning ticket was and sell one? So it's back we're.

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Speaker 1: Got the money they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, needless to say, these fighters will not be making

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that kind of money.

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Speaker 1: But again to Sugar.

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Speaker 2: Nunyaz, this is a fight that leads to another fight

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of probably much more significance.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, well.

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Speaker 3: We'll see about that. First, he's got to get through Diaz.

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I mean, Diaz is a competent fighter. Uh, it should

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be a good fight while last, but I you know, listen,

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being honest, Uh, Christie is a little bit long in

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the tooth at this stage of the game. Even if

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he was at his best, went like he was a

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few years ago, I'd still have a hard time seeing

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Nunya is doing anything other than you know, giving him

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the business so to speak, you know, and uh and

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punched them out. But uh, there'll be a good crowd.

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I'm excited to watch this. Just like I said, I

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like these Mexican shows that Matchroom puts on. I find

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has to be very entertaining. H he's now got a

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world title, and you know, now it's off to the races.

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You know, obviously it's the This is the classic example

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of let's take the champion home. Uh, not gonna get

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him like an easy fight. Necessarily get competent professional, but

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they're not exactly matching him with the number one contender.

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And if he wins, you know, we'll see what else happens.

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The other champions in the weight class are Oshaki Foster,

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Emmanuel Navarete, Nouniez has the IBF title. There's Lamont Roach,

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who I don't expect is going to fight in that

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weight class anymore, which means that James Dickens at some

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point will become the full title holder of the WBA.

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So I'm not sure if any of those fights are

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out there, but let's see him get through Christy as

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make it exciting and I'll move on to the next.

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Speaker 2: I like that, all right, Speaking of moving on to

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the next, but staying in the same country. In Nogales, Mexico,

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Oscar Valdez will meet Ricky Medina. Valdez, the former two

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time world champs, is a zandfor Promotions card ESPN Deportes

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will have it in the United States. Ten round non

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title fight here for Valdez, who very much wants to

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try to stay relevant in and around lightweight at the moment.

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Give me a little more on this in the preview mode.

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Speaker 1: If you would.

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Speaker 3: Well, he plans to fight at one hundred and thirty pounds.

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But given this is not a title fight, you mentioned

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its ten round non title belt. I was a text.

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I knew this originally and I was just texting with

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his manager, Frank Espinoza yesterday just to double check. It

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is in fact contracted at one hundred and thirty two pounds,

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so just a couple pounds over, no need to suck

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down to one thirty. The interesting thing about this a

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couple of things. In terms of the broadcast you mentioned

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it's on ESPN to port days on a zanfrakard. Obviously,

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with Top Rank on a multitude of fighters through the years,

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including Eric Morales and Jore Arsa and Oscar Beldez to

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some degree on this fight and others through the years.

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the way that some of the other Latin American and

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since the experts on the Top Rank deal. But those

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who want to see Oscar Beldez. It is on live

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on ESPN Deportees. He's going home to Negallas, Mexico. Now.

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Oscar Valdez, who's a two time world champion in the

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featherweight division, also won a title in the junior lightweight division.

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he struggled with ladies. Trying to make a comeback, see

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if he can kind of shake things up.

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Speaker 3: He's one and two in his last three, but the

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two losses were to Emmanuel Navarette most recently in December,

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a very harsh, sort of one sided knockout in the

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six run in their rematch. He had that very exciting

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victory against Liam Wilson Sandwich in between in an interim

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title fight. But the thing about Oscar bel does he's

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a two time Mexican Olympian, but he only fought two

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times previously in his home country in Mexico. He had

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his professional debut in Mexico and he had like his

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eighth professional fight in Mexico, and now he's going home

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to fight in it not only back in Mexico for

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the first time in many years, but in his hometown.

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So on the one hand, it's I'm kind of make

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a comeback, try to get myself back on course to

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see if I could put myself in a position to

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go for another title at some point. And in the

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other hand, you know, come back to where my roots

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are now. He's spent a lot of time obviously growing

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up in that area, but he also spent a lot

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of time in his childhood and growing up in Arizona,

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so he kind of claims both areas. But I'm sure

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they're going to be happy to have him back headlining

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a boxing event in Nogallas. So he's in with Ricky

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Medina from San Antonio. Sixteen and three, not a big

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name opponent or anything. He's three and three in his

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last six fights. Most known. I guess if you looked

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at his record, the guy you'd recognize as he lost

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fought up against Raymond Ford. This was before ray went

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on to win a world titleight featherweight in the WBA

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featherweight title. But nobody's expecting Valdez after that kind of loss.

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Not a big money fight, not a big platform necessarily.

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comeback and put himself in position. One thing about Oscar

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beldaes when he fights, man, you know this. I know

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you've watched his fights. You don't get cheated. He makes

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a good fight, right. He's a classical mech. He's a

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good boxer, but he just loves fight. He's also by

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the way, he has parted ways with his longtime trainer,

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Eddie Renoso. He's back his original trainer who had him

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for many years. That's Amaney Robliss, who's one of the

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top trainers in boxing also, so he's back training with him.

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I don't expect we're gonna learn a lot from their

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pairing in this fight, because this shouldn't be, you know,

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a massively strenuous fight. But sometimes because of the way

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Oscar fights, he makes fights tougher than they need to

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be because he likes to get it mixed up into

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a brawl. But we'll see. But Oscarvalda has been one

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of my favorite fighters to watch for a very long time.

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I've covered his career from day one. I've been to

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many of his fights. I like him a lot on

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a personal level. Really class at guy, like his team,

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like his dad. You know, the whole crew have always

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had a good relationship with the manager, Frank Espinoza, like

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they're just a good group over there. And you know,

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if Oscar can come back and put himself in position,

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as I said, if he gets another opportunity, he ain't

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gonna cheat anybody, because he comes to fight every time

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that bell rings.

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Speaker 2: And of course he scored that spectacular knockout of the year,

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was it the knockout of the year was certainly one

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of the candidates with Burchelt right, absolute left hand knockout.

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Speaker 1: That's been a while ago.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, some losses. That was twenty twenty one,

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he stopped them in round ten to win the WBC's

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one thirty title. Everybody was picking Burchelt. I'm on record.

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You can go back and find that I picked val

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this to win, and that was.

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Speaker 2: Count for the purposes of our preview podcast. I'm just

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saying doing it yet in twenty twenty one, but I'll take.

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Speaker 1: Your word for it.

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Speaker 3: If I'm sad, listen.

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Speaker 1: To listen, let's see it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if he gets back, we've had falling

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on hard times himself. He's also coming back in the

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next few weeks. He's got to fight coming up, So

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they're both going to.

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Speaker 2: You're back in my camp. They're never retired, no matter

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who they are, they're never retired. They're always got to

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come back, all right, So Valdez again, it's a separate

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card and it's ESPN Deportes.

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Speaker 1: Good luck finding it.

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Speaker 2: You'll probably see the highlights on social media, YouTube, et cetera.

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If you can't find it live. That's disappointing that it's

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not on ESPN Plus. My god, I pay enough as

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it is.

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Speaker 3: I asked Top Rank about that because the ESPN Knockout

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Show that they've done, where they brought in the Canazales

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title fight from Venezuela, they brought in another zan for

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card right recently with Rgi Cortes, the junior bantamweight contender,

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and those were simulcasts both live on ESPN Deportes and

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on ESPN Plus. They showed the simulcasts of the ESPN

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Knockout program. For whatever reason, this one is no.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's on Deportees, but no plus. I asked

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Top Rank, and I wasn't really given what I considered

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a clear answer, But there so that my method to.

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Speaker 2: The madness, ESPN Plus can have a few more channels

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of the US open out of court out of court

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matches that are all over my ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 3: I actually still have cable television, even though I watch

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a lot of stuff on Plus, so I have ESPN

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deport d's on my cable system, so I will watch

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it on cable. I've got the DVR ready to go,

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and I'll look forward to seeing it.

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Speaker 2: All right, we will see what happens uh with that?

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About all right?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: That leads us into again a conversation that you have

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had here in recent days with Sir Heey Bullachuk is

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the WBC Mandatory challenger at one hundred and fifty four pounds.

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He's fighting Brandon Adams, a fighter that he lost to

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previously in a rematch on the Canelo Crawford undercard in

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Las Vegas. Not this weekend, but obviously next weekend. But

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you don't have to wait for fight week. Let's get

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to Boatchuk, who was in the wild fight with Virgil

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Ortiz and much more dance.

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Speaker 1: Gonna talk to him about all of that right now

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on the pod.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is my pleasure to welcome to our podcast

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this week, it is the top junim middleweight contender, Sarah Boachuk. Sara,

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welcome to the show. Thank you very much for doing this.

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You got an important fight coming up. It's going to

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be a rematch to avenge a loss and it will

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take place against Brandon Adams. You're fighting him on a

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very big stage. It'll take place on the undercard of

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the Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford fight September thirteenth that Allegiance

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Stadium in Las Vegas. So I'm looking forward to talking

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to you about that fight. Thank you very much for

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doing this and welcome.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Look, big fight's coming up. I'm

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very excited that he is big, show is biggering. You know,

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it's very very big chance for me, show my skills

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for everyone, everybody, for me, it's it's a big chance.

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Speaker 4: I'm very happy. I'm very excited, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: So you'll be fighting him as a ten rounder. I'm

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told that the contract weight is one hundred and fifty

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six pounds, so just a little bit over then you

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know the division limit. It's not a championship fight at

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this point. So first of all, as I mentioned, you're

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fighting on this big card. You alluded to your excitement

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to be on this level of a big show. Just

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give me your thoughts about appearing on Canelo Crawford. It's

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arguably the biggest fight of the year. A lot of

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people think it's the biggest fight in boxing for the

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past several years. Now you're not on the main card,

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you're on the final preliminary card. But in some ways

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that's a great thing because it's going to be available

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to that even if you don't have a Netflix subscription,

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all over social media, YouTube places like that. So what

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are your thoughts on being on the big show.

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Speaker 4: Very big show coming up? Sis. No, I'm very very

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happy we'll be here in this show.

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Speaker 5: It's really big studium and it's a lot of fans,

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a lot of people and scam a lot of people, support,

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a lot of fans, new fans for me, you know,

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I can show more more people my skills.

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Speaker 3: Well, before we jump into all the things about the

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fight that you're going to have once cover thirteenths obviously

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this is a rematch, I want to hear a little

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bit from your perspective about the first fight you had

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with Brandon Adams. It took place in March twenty twenty one.

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You guys fought in Puerto Rico. Sir, hey, you were

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ahead by quite a bit on all three scorecards going

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into the eighth round. You were in control of the fight.

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You know, I just went back and I looked at

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it just to refresh my memory on how it ended.

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that round. You caught you with a good left hook.

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He knocked you down, and you did beat the count.

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You're a little unsteady reference.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know it's four years ago. It's I think

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I was young, and I make mistake.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're right.

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Speaker 5: I beat him every around, and I'm before this fight,

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I have record seventeen seventeen go and I can I

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think in for one MOC, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Go, and I go go go, and I won't go,

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and I'm I'll have cool and I lost cool.

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Speaker 5: You know it's it's a big mistake. You know, I

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make big mistake, and now in this show, I'm fixed

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this mistake.

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Speaker 3: Did you try to get a rematch with him immediately,

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because it's now it's been like four years obviously, I'm

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pretty sure and he didn't fight for a while after

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that fight, he took like three years off. So did

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you press for a rematch at that point? I mean,

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you have it now, But what was going on in

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the year since that fight that you didn't fight him again?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think he don't want this remind you know,

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I want to force someone because it's it's mistake.

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Speaker 4: It's a big mistake for me. I need it.

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Speaker 5: I need to fix this, and I'm very happy. I

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have no big chance, show big show show people. Was

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mistake and I need to fix this.

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Speaker 3: So, as I mentioned, sir, he took off three years

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after he follow you, even though he's coming off obviously

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at that time the biggest win still the biggest win

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of his career, he took the time off. He is

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won two out of his last three fights since he

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came back in twenty twenty four. He is coming off

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of a split decision loss. What are you expecting from

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him this time around?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean I'm back and before the

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first fight with the Adams, Yeah, I don't have experience

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for long crowns.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't have much in six or seven

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around fights, you know.

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Speaker 5: Now now I have too fights for twelve rounds now

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I have to to fight for decision. I know what

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is this?

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Speaker 4: Now? I know what the twelve rounds? You know? I

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know what this? What? What is more rounds? Before?

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Speaker 5: I don't know this and maybe I make this mistake

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before before I don't know what what?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: How many rounds? What? What rounds? I feeling eight round

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eight rounds or ten rounds? Now? I know what the

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twelve rounds? I have two times twelve rounds and I.

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Speaker 3: Know this is only the round fight though, sorry, not

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a twelve round fight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now I know what this rounds fights? You know?

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Now I have twelve rounds? Is mendoza? Now I have

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thrownds with or kiss and I now I know what

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this rounds? But I know what is more rounds? You know?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: And so do you feel like it's a matter of

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you just being able to pace yourself better? Were you

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a little tired maybe going into that round when you

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had your first fighting and you got stopped? I don't

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I said, do you feel like you know how to

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pace yourself better? In other words, when you fought him

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the first time and he defeated you, was it a

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matter that maybe you were just getting a little bit

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tired in the eighth round because you didn't have that

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experience going deep into fights.

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Speaker 4: You know, not tired.

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Speaker 5: I don't have experience, you know, I don't have experience

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for eight rounds, for ten rounds. You know.

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Speaker 4: I think he's tired, you know.

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Speaker 5: And he's very much his show. He's tired and very

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very wet and bunge it. He's very smart, you know,

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he's best. He's half with boxing experience.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you are the former WBC interim champion at one

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hundred and fifty four pounds. You're currently the WBC's number

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one can tender. You're also the mandatory challenger. And anytime

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somebody with that status, the mandatory position, you take a

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fight before you fight for the title, you risk that status.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering, like what was it about it? And said,

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you know what, I can't get the title fight right away.

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The champions Sebastian Fundora, he's got a fight coming up

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against Keith Thurman. Did you just say, you know what,

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I need to stay active.

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: And and whatever is going to happen is going to happen.

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Speaker 4: No, I want to give me a chance, give me

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a chance. Fights with the FDA.

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Speaker 5: I won this fight. Of course I want this fight

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I met in a long time last year. I'm one

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alminited fight.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You're you're risking that position.

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You have a guaranteed opportunity to fight the winner of

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Fendora and Irman, but you're risking that by fighting a

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guy that already defeated you one time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why, why why.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like it? You're risking your You're okay,

473
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,039
risking the status. Yes, of course, I'm okay, Okay, I'm

474
00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:09,640
just asking some guys aren't as brave as you. They

475
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,440
want to sit on there.

476
00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who, doesn't matter who. I need the title.

477
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,279
Speaker 5: I need the best buxters, I need the best busters

478
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,319
because I need the best boxers can show my skills,

479
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920
can show my my better version.

480
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people that have become fans of yours,

481
00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:32,240
I think have done so because they watch your great fight,

482
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:35,720
a twenty twenty four Fight of the Year contender that

483
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:39,519
you had against Virgil Ortiz. You know you lost the

484
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,200
Intern belt to him in that fight. It was a

485
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,319
very close fight, majority decision, You score two knockdowns. People

486
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,160
thought it was one of the greatest fights they've seen.

487
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,640
I'm wondering, you know, I know you think you won

488
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,359
the fight. Uh, do you still think about that? How

489
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440
disappointing was that to you to have the two knockdowns,

490
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,480
not get the decision, lose the belt?

491
00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 5: You know this fight, I'm not feeling if I lost

492
00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:08,200
this fight. I don't feel in this And a lot

493
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:11,400
of people say very much too much. I'm saying not

494
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,200
too much. I can't beat one more time him, and

495
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:19,119
this time I'm beat four knockdowns, knockouts and now I'm angry.

496
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing about it is, even though you

497
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
didn't get to win in that particular fight that was

498
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,279
about a year ago, thirteen months ago, you've stayed active.

499
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,880
You've had two fights since then. As you're prepared to

500
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,880
go into this fight with Brandon Adams. Uh, there's a

501
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,279
lot of fighters that don't have that kind of activity.

502
00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:39,000
How important was it for you and your team to say,

503
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:40,799
you know what, let's try to stay busy even if

504
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:43,400
we're not making huge money for every fight, and to

505
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,640
go in there and just stay sharp.

506
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:49,599
Speaker 5: You know I need it, Yes, you're I need it

507
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,039
to stay ready. I need it, stay stay active. I

508
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:58,440
needed everything fights, fights, fights, because when you a long

509
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:02,480
time don't have time, you the long band, don't have fight.

510
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,519
Speaker 2: You.

511
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 4: You're not good feeling. You know. For me, it's I

512
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:14,039
need ything. We'll be ready. I need everything is training.

513
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:14,880
It's good for me.

514
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 5: I'm feeling great. I'm everything, training and everything. You can

515
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,680
call me and it'll go fight and yes, let's go.

516
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm always ready.

517
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,319
Speaker 3: Well, you fight in one of the best divisions in boxing.

518
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,279
I think that the junior middleweight division might be the

519
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,880
best division in boxing. You're right there in the middle

520
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,079
of all the top contenders to be in any of

521
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,759
the bigger fights in the way class I mentioned. You

522
00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:39,440
are in the position to fight. If you win against Brandon,

523
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,680
you're the mandatory for the winner of Sebastian Fandora against

524
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,079
Keith Thurman. They're fighting on October twenty fifth, and since

525
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,720
you're going to get the winner of that fight as

526
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:51,200
long as you prevail September thirteenth, I wonder what do

527
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,599
you think of that fight? Who do you like to

528
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,079
win between Fandora and Keith Thurman? And I know how

529
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,359
much you want the winner that fight.

530
00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm going to for my next fight.

531
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: If I win, when I'm in this fight and I

532
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:09,119
won't find Sonora, I won't find I think Fundora a

533
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,039
bit Turment, bit Truman, and next I wanna fight.

534
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,039
Speaker 4: Give me a chance, give me the title, so you

535
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:18,559
you have.

536
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: That in the in the future if you when you'll

537
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,519
get that title opportunity. Whoever is the winner of that fight.

538
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,400
But is there any part of you that says, you

539
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,160
know what I really I want to fight virtual Artis again.

540
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,359
Also because we had such a great fight, you feel

541
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,039
like you want.

542
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, look you before, You're right, it's my very division.

543
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:42,200
It's very very strong now. I think it's my very division.

544
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,319
Supervelitor right now. The best fight division really a lot

545
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,079
of interexty boxers. And I can I can show one

546
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,720
more fights with Ortiz, good fight. I can show with

547
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,160
this Fundora a good fight. I know I have good experience.

548
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,680
I have a lot of spying with him. I can

549
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,880
show Goose fights is from Doura. I can show his

550
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,319
good fights with everything. You know, who is now number ten?

551
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: You know a great division? He's fighting or T'ses fighting Lubin,

552
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:14,640
there's x Anders has the WBO title, or taz Alaev

553
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,400
has the IB title. There's a boss Burrew who just

554
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,680
showed himself to the world in a recent victory against Hayes.

555
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

556
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: How exciting is it to know that that if one

557
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,680
guy says no to fighting you, there's five or six

558
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:31,279
other really good fighters in the division that might be

559
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:32,160
willing to say yes.

560
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: You know, I hope.

561
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: Very soon promotes to make fights with from Laura because

562
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:41,920
now I'm one from tender and number one w b

563
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,279
C and push him. It's I'm wanna fights with him.

564
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,640
Another title might be no no Good Writings and w

565
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,119
b C and number one.

566
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:52,799
Speaker 4: Chance.

567
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 3: Before you get to that, you obviously got to take

568
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,279
care of Brandon Adams. I'm wondering when you think about

569
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,960
how the fight will go, how he stopped you the

570
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,920
first time, even though you were winning pretty handily before that.

571
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

572
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: I know the win is the most important thing, but

573
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,119
how how satisfying would it be to not only avenge

574
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,200
the loss, but to do so by getting a knockout

575
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,440
of the guy that stopped you.

576
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:15,519
Speaker 4: Time?

577
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,559
Speaker 3: And I know it would be very satisfying to defeat

578
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,839
Brandon Adams, but how much more satisfying would it be

579
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
to do so by a knockout? Since he did stop

580
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:26,759
you the first.

581
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: Time, you know, and first time it's.

582
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,079
Speaker 5: You know what when I'm back in gym, what man

583
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,240
in Robus, my coach man, and Robus told me. He

584
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,200
told me it's not lost, it's learning. It's it's not losing,

585
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,799
it's learning and and and the forward straight, you know.

586
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,799
Speaker 3: But it would knockout satisfying than I am very.

587
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 4: Very very thank you.

588
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,319
Speaker 5: Brandon Adams, because he's teaching me. You know, before fights

589
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,759
with him, I thinking.

590
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 4: Like my iron.

591
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: Gin, you know, my like my chin iron know I'm

592
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,400
lost a lot of I'm punch it, lost punch it, lost,

593
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,319
lost love and have to fight with him. I'm learning

594
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
I can't lost minch. I need it more and more moving,

595
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,640
more and more different, you know. And now he's learning

596
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,359
me for the first time, and now I'm different. Hitl

597
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:31,279
in interview, I'm saying, no, I know, I'm saying four

598
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,240
years ago, I was young, I was a little bit stupid.

599
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,839
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Well, whatever happens, however it goes. I wish

600
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
you the best of luck in the rematch, and if

601
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,960
you get the victory, I'm gonna look very much looking

602
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,240
forward to seeing you get the title shot.

603
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,599
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, all right, just to finish up there

604
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,359
again the one fifty four where the kids say it's popping, Well,

605
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,599
one fifty four division is popping. We're gonna talk more

606
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:58,039
about Fondorra and Thurman's press conference. We've got a lot

607
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,640
of interesting names there. This guy is definitely in position

608
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,039
here to get a title shot in the in the WBC.

609
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,039
Give me one final follow up on boatchuk here before

610
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:09,319
he fights on the Canelo undercard.

611
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:13,559
Speaker 3: Well, besides the opportunity to avenge a loss against Adams

612
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,039
in a fight he was winning handily back a few

613
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,960
years ago and got stopped, he's also gambling his mandatory

614
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,599
position because he is the mandatory at the moment for

615
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Sebastian Fundor, but that fight is not due yet. In Fendora,

616
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,759
of course is fighting Keith Thurman. So he's staying active

617
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,839
and they've they've given him a chance to avenge it.

618
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,759
It's on a big, huge card like Canelo. Now he's

619
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,079
not on the he's not on the main Netflix portion

620
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,559
of the show. He's the final preliminary. But from one

621
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:42,160
standpoint of exposure, that's not terrible because that fights, all

622
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,759
those fights are going to be available all over the

623
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,119
place on social media and on YouTube, so people can

624
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,960
certainly see that. But he's in an interesting matchup that

625
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:50,960
the fact that that's not on the main cart actually

626
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,319
kind of surprised me. So I'm actually of all the

627
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,440
i mean, other than the main event, of course, and

628
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,839
I'm always happy to watch Christian and Billy. That's probably

629
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,640
like the next most interesting fight on the card to me,

630
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,440
even though it's not part of the main card. So

631
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,200
understood the boatchuk wuins, you know, you know at some

632
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,200
point you got to fez to get that mandatory shot.

633
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,720
And uh and like you said, like the kids say,

634
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:09,799
one fifty four is popping.

635
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,119
Speaker 2: It does appear to be okay. Some news here, as

636
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,039
I said in the t's when is a positive test?

637
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:21,039
Apparently not a positive test. So the announcement has been

638
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,400
made that Haimi Mongee is not going to face any

639
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,480
disciplinary action from the positive drug test in Saudi Arabia

640
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,279
when he fought and beat Brunos Sirase in the rematch

641
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,960
on May the third. Rayphael, what's going on here? Because

642
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:41,039
usually usually usually if the A sample is positive, and

643
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,119
if I'm not mistaken, the B sample was positive, right,

644
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440
this is that means it's goodbye, but it doesn't mean

645
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,039
goodbye here.

646
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,799
Speaker 3: This is not so much about A and B. This

647
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,440
is about again, I'm not a scientist. I don't play

648
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,160
one on TV. I didn't stay at a holiday in

649
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,440
last night. But what I did is see what the

650
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,519
comments were. And just because they the one team says

651
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,440
that I wanted to just make so I actually checked

652
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,240
with others that were involved. I got a copy of

653
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:06,880
the letter from the British Boxing Board of Control that

654
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,359
was sent to Himian Muggy's attorney And the bottom line

655
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,799
is like it or not, I mean, and again we

656
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,759
don't have the proof. We're not the scientist, but they

657
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,240
both side the WBC's clean boxing program. They do what

658
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:22,359
they do. The u COD people, which is the British

659
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,119
Boxing Board, was the organization that regulated the event. But

660
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,799
they're drug testing. They turn over to u COD which

661
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,839
is the group that does testing for all sports in

662
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,519
the UK. So according to them, according to the WBC

663
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200
under their clean boxing program, which is run by Vada,

664
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,559
it was a Vada test. Bottom line is they are

665
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,680
all in agreement that this was in fact contamination within

666
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,359
a substance that is a legal, non banned substance that

667
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,920
presented a false positive according to what the statements were.

668
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,880
That's not me saying that. That's what they're saying, and

669
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:56,880
so therefore he will not face discipline. They will not

670
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,720
change the result to a no contest. The British Boxing

671
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,000
Board will not seek to have some type of hearing

672
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,759
to punish him. U Cot is good with things, the

673
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,160
WBC is good to say so.

674
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 2: He obviously had good scientists, good lawyers, good scientists that

675
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
could help him on his side. Fans are automatically going

676
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,119
to be skeptical about this.

677
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: And and what it all means.

678
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,319
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is he could be back in

679
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,000
the ring late this year early next year now because

680
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,480
what was looming was at least a one year suspension.

681
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Oh probably, I would think he'll I would be very

682
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,440
surprised if he's not well. I mean, given he probably

683
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,720
will be back in the ring before the end of

684
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,200
the year, whether it's a top rank event or a

685
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,799
zanfer event. They're working together with him. The main point

686
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,880
is this, though they say in their statements that not

687
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,279
only that it was they gave him their his supplements

688
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,720
to the Big Time Smart Lab, which is a WAT

689
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,559
of credit lab that does a ton of these tests

690
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,039
in the United States, they had his amb sample test

691
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,720
and for that stuff, they did hair filical testing. They

692
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,519
test his nails. They say they went through the whole

693
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,559
the whole business of an extra testing of all the

694
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,920
various things they could do that to take a look

695
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,119
at what was happening, and then they concluded that it

696
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,839
was this contamination. And wait, what can I tell you?

697
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,720
You and I I know this all that one thing

698
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,759
about this Most of the time, I don't believe these guys,

699
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:19,559
and I'm not sure I believe this either. I'm just saying,

700
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,880
though there are exceptions to every rule, this may be

701
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,400
one of them.

702
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: But you and I have gone all of this and

703
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,039
we don't know need to go for another five minutes.

704
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:32,000
That in Nevada, for example, they the strict liability. It

705
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,319
doesn't matter how it got in there. You tested positive

706
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,279
for it, and if you tested positive, the explanation doesn't matter.

707
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,640
So it's just an interesting distinction here that they're able

708
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
to make that argument because, for example, again we don't

709
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960
want to go for five more minutes. Ryan Garcia claimed

710
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,599
tainted supplements for his New York Ryan Garcia.

711
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:55,039
Speaker 3: Although Ryan Garcia sent open cans of supplement to the testing.

712
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:56,119
They weren't sealed.

713
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, give me and the other And the other

714
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:59,599
thing is that doesn't mean that he's not full of crap.

715
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,680
It's just that's what his claim was. He didn't have

716
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:06,559
the scientist, he didn't have the sealed supplements whatever. So

717
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,039
it's just different in different parts of the world. But

718
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,480
the bottom line is the British Boxing border Control U

719
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,000
Cod and company. They're not going to do anything to him,

720
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,800
so he's able to fight period.

721
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: This is like it never happened, basically, all right, say

722
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:19,719
it's based like a.

723
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: And Sirase ain't happy with that.

724
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: But guess what the wind goes in the column of

725
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Haimimongia in the rematch the unanimous decision win and we'll

726
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,320
see when Mangia is back in there.

727
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,199
Speaker 1: Speaking of.

728
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: The UK, Joseph Parker, I read my Dan Rayphield substack

729
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,719
while you and I were away on Labor Day weekend

730
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,719
and didn't do a recap pod that Joseph Parker and

731
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,599
Fabio Wardley in the works. Give the fans the update

732
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,639
on how soon we're gonna see this for the UH

733
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,960
for the interim WBO Championship that Parker.

734
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: Has, well, if they get it done. It's it's ticketed

735
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,840
for October twenty fifth. Uh most it'll be diz owned,

736
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:04,559
probably a pay per view. It'll be at the O

737
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,880
two Arena in London, a great arena. I've actually had

738
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,920
the privilege to cover a fight there before. H And

739
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:12,400
as you mentioned for a fab Worldy had Well, Parker's

740
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,840
the WBO's interim champion. He's sitting there as the mandatory

741
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,000
right now for the undisputed champion, Alexander Russak. But Usak

742
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,079
is not going to be fighting for a biddies dealing

743
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:23,599
with the back problem. The WBO is not going to

744
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,280
press the issue. They're going to let him have his extension.

745
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,159
And so in the meantime, Joseph Parker doesn't want to

746
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,480
just sit around and atrophy. He hasn't fought, you know,

747
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,440
in a while. They want, you know. And when he

748
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:35,920
did fight last time, he was only in there for

749
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000
two rounds, knocking out your boy Mark mccoley. So he

750
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,000
wants to get back in the get back in the ring.

751
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,000
And in the meantime he got Fabio Wardley, who's the

752
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,960
WBA's interim champion. But again the WBO rules are expressly

753
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:54,159
clear they do interim titles rarely. Usually they're injury related,

754
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,639
and if they have an interim champion, they want that

755
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,199
it's consolidated as soon as possible. And the other thing

756
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,920
about that is they don't allow you to unify with

757
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,239
some other title, whether it's a full title or an

758
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,760
interim title. So while the WBA would probably do it,

759
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,119
you know, no, you know for you know, with no problem,

760
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:11,760
uh Worthy is probably gonna have to give up the

761
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,400
WBA interimpell title. For what you care about that the

762
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,679
most important thing is this a hell of a fight.

763
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,239
Like if Joseph Parker is not.

764
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,199
Speaker 2: Risk, it's a risk for Parker in that he's sitting

765
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440
there waiting for Usik. And they believe because I saw

766
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Frank Warren's interviews as well as the release, they don't

767
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,519
believe the Usik fight would happen before the end of

768
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:31,920
the year.

769
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,559
Speaker 1: That's why they're doing this, right.

770
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: So they don't. He doesn't want to sit around, and

771
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,159
if Wardley is the winner, he'll win the WBO's interim

772
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,960
title and he'll be mandatory. And the WBO is not

773
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:46,239
about the person who's the mandatory. That organization is next

774
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,039
in the rotation. When you do a unified or on

775
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:52,960
un disputed champions. So the next heavyweight title defense of Usik,

776
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,559
as long as he doesn't vacate, is going to be

777
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,280
for the WBO mandatory. So whether that's Parker or it's Wordley,

778
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480
assuming they get match done, that's interesting. But in and

779
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,559
of itself, Joseph Parker against Fabia Wardley is a very

780
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:09,400
good matchup. Fabia Wardley. We saw what he can turn

781
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,280
out the lights with one punch, like he did against

782
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,719
Justice Cooney who was easily out boxing him in his

783
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,159
last fight. You have Joseph Parker who's been on a

784
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,760
tear fighting lots of good fighters. Has has quality victories

785
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,920
in recent times. Not only that February knockout of Bikoli

786
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,800
that I reference, he has in his previous fights before that.

787
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:29,760
He's scored a decision over Zilly Zang. He has to

788
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,800
win over Deontay Wilder. Yeah, and he was active before that,

789
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,480
you know, since he fought Joe Joyce and lost in

790
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,280
a great fight in a stoppage in the eleventh round.

791
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,280
You know, he's been quite active. He's got what seven, three,

792
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,400
four or five six wins in a row since then.

793
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,480
He's one of the more active edyweights. Yeah, I'd like

794
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,480
to get in a second fight in twenty twenty five.

795
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,559
So you know, Joseph Parker has never been once that

796
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,599
stuck anybody, So God bless him for taking on, you know,

797
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,480
for accepting a Wardley and for Wardley step up. Also,

798
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:03,440
it's it's a high it's a high risk, high reward fight.

799
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:05,480
They're going to be paid very well, I would imagine to.

800
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,000
I'm sure a very expensive fight to do, and they'll

801
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:11,239
and by the way, they'll sell that place out there.

802
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,519
Oh yeah, big time gate because that's it. You know,

803
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,039
Parker's well known in Britain, Worley's got a growing fan base. Uh,

804
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,559
it's just a good fight between two of the top contenders.

805
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: Stay tuned on in the official announcement of But it's

806
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,719
looking like late October for that in London. You were

807
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,719
mentioning when last we talked a week ago, the Tea

808
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,480
Fimo Lopez Shakur Stevenson being kicked around as a as

809
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:40,119
a possible move up for Chakour to fight Taya Fimo

810
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,800
for his WBO Junior welterweight title fight.

811
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Do we have an update on when this might happen and.

812
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: The lineal title by the way. Yeah, if it does happen,

813
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,800
it would be ticketed for a READ season card in January.

814
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,400
There's still work to be done, but there's no question

815
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,400
about it that they are negotiating this fight. They're trying

816
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,679
to work out the terms. I am told by various

817
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,519
folks that the two fighters are willing to take the fight. Shakor,

818
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,719
I know, is going to take the fight. I think

819
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,360
they're hashing over a few other things related to it.

820
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,360
I'm sure money is part of it, but it's a

821
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,679
fight that Turkey as Chika has shown interest in. It's

822
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,960
a fight that both sides are interested in, and we'll

823
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,840
see if they can get it done.

824
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,559
Speaker 1: Is we talked before?

825
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,519
Speaker 2: Is there no chance it would be in New York

826
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,199
like we talked last week, where it seems to make sense.

827
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,760
I realize what they're doing with the Read season, but

828
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,599
this would seem to make sense to stick it in

829
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,400
New York.

830
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:34,119
Speaker 3: Okay, right now they're making the sausage, so I would

831
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,599
assume I don't know this specifically, but among the things

832
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,679
that they're trying to work out is possibly location one

833
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,159
of them. You know, maybe I don't know this. I'm

834
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,679
just some hypothesizing. Maybe one of the guys or both

835
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:48,679
of them would rather fight in the United States and

836
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,159
not go to Saudi Arabia. But if you don't go

837
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,000
to Saudi Arabia, maybe your pay is less because they

838
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,000
want to bring the fights to Saudi Arabia for their reasons,

839
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,239
which is fine, and maybe they would rather do the

840
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,039
fight here because it's not like they don't do fights

841
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,639
in America. They did the Terrence Crawford fight, They've done

842
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:03,480
the Wembley Show in the UK.

843
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:08,519
Speaker 2: They're involved in the Ring The Ring, the Ring TV

844
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,960
debacle at Times Square. They did that card as well,

845
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,400
and then they then they had a much better car

846
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:14,840
with Shakour on it at the US Open Tennis.

847
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: So when I say that it's in the works, there's

848
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,800
it's when you when you put together a fight, especially

849
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,599
one of this magnitude, it's it's it's about a lot

850
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,559
of different things that need to get ironed out. It's

851
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,840
not just the hold the cold hard cash. There's a

852
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,000
lot of things about it. So the bottom line is,

853
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,400
right now, it's just a fluid situation and they're trying

854
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,760
to make the fight for January issue.

855
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,079
Speaker 2: All right, stay tuned on Shakour Lopez. Did we say

856
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,559
that one hundred and fifty four is Poppin' junior middle eight.

857
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,679
They held the press conference Wednesday afternoon in Los Angeles

858
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,599
for Sebastian Fondora and Keith one Time Therm and Clearwater,

859
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:50,920
Florida is Keith one time Therm and this is for

860
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,960
Fondora's title, the WBC belt and the undercar which has

861
00:40:56,039 --> 00:41:00,400
oh Shaky Foster Stephen Fulton. What did we glean from

862
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,960
the press conference, including Thurman's antics with uh with a

863
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,679
stepping stool?

864
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: Am I correct?

865
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,679
Speaker 3: Yes, sir so, I mean we all know the history

866
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,400
here that Keith Thurman was to post to fight Tim

867
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Zoo last year. He suffered the biceps injury, pulled out

868
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,880
and on like ten days notice, Fendora, who was on

869
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,840
the undercard, moved up to the main event. They had

870
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,920
the blood bath with Tim Zoo got the win, won

871
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,039
the title, won the vacant WBC dele took Tim's WBO title.

872
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,119
They ultimately had a rematch. It just took place in

873
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:33,000
July where Sebastian Ndora totally dominated and stopped and made

874
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:35,840
Zoo retire on the stool. He had vacated the WBO

875
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,800
belt by then because he decided to do the rematch

876
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,519
rather than do the mandatory against Xandersyas and he looked

877
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:44,639
really good in that fight. And so in the meantime, Thurman,

878
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,679
who was hoping to fight Tim Zoo because they both

879
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000
fought in Australia, but it ended up that he did

880
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,679
the rematch with Fondora. But Thurman came that way from

881
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,800
his back his victory with the win and uninjured and

882
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
was still looking for another big time fight. So now

883
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,519
he's going to fight the guy that the guy that

884
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,679
he was replaced against. So you know, I know some

885
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,840
people look at it like woll You know, Thurman hasn't

886
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,960
really been around for a while. He's not that relevant,

887
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,920
blah blah blah. He moved up and wait, but I

888
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,159
can tell you one thing. One Keith Thurman's always in

889
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,679
good fights too. He looked good in his fight when

890
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,679
he came off a long layoff. Granted it wasn't against

891
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,559
a Fundora level opponent. Uh And and yes the division

892
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:22,280
has loaded, but a lot of the guys are doing

893
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,159
other things right now. You've got but what Chukes got

894
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:26,480
his fight coming up. Virgil Ortiz has got the fight

895
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:30,719
coming up against Lubin Martaz leev is negotiating his mandatory

896
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,000
with Josh Kelly, et cetera. So I'm down with this.

897
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,119
I think this is a fun fight now.

898
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: Keith is selling this all the way, no doubt.

899
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,119
Speaker 3: So the best part of the press conference was, you know,

900
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,199
the whole thing about Fundor. We all know the guy's

901
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,440
a giant. He's like the jolly green Jinty's six ft

902
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,639
you know, he's six foot five and a half or so,

903
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,199
much taller than every opponent. So Keith Thurman, who's got

904
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,719
a great sense of humor and a lot of showmanship,

905
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,719
really made it stark. He faced off with him. You know,

906
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,199
he's looking up like in the sky, and then he

907
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,920
went he had his prop with me. He grabbed like

908
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,159
a step stool. He got up on the step so

909
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,360
you could hear one of the pr people go be careful,

910
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880
be careful, so he doesn't fall off the thing. And

911
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,679
he got up and he's standing on the steps. So

912
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,039
looking down at Fondora, and Fondora, who was like unflappable,

913
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,239
was totally cool. He's like, at the one time, he's

914
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,719
looking down on him, and then when he gets on

915
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,400
this step stol, he's looking up at him and it

916
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,239
was just it was a really stark reminder about the

917
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,320
amazing size that Fondora has that I don't care if

918
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,599
you're fighting Keith Thurman or Tim Zu or anybody in

919
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,920
the weight class, that he's going to have a massive

920
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,440
physical advantage against anybody's size in terms of height, length,

921
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,719
in terms of his reach, and that's going to be

922
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,440
on display. But that's the headliner. They're fighting on October

923
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:43,519
twenty fifth at the MGM Grant. It's going to be

924
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:47,039
a prime video PBC pay per view card and that's

925
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,000
the main event. And you mentioned about the co feature

926
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,719
at Oshaki Foster, he'll defend his WBC one hundred and

927
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960
thirty pound title against the featherweight title or Steven Fulton,

928
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,880
who's moving up in wait. Fulton has been a guy

929
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,400
willing to take on the best. He traveled to and

930
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,440
he lost in a way, but he had the stones

931
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,639
to go over there and do it and gave up

932
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,559
and lost his belts. Thought fought other good guys also,

933
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,119
uh and Foster's been looking for this kind of fight

934
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,119
for a while. Hopefully they'll come to fight and entertain.

935
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,800
They've not always been in the best fights. I'm hoping

936
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,000
their styles will find a way to mess together. And

937
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,000
they made also another fight on the undercard. We've talked

938
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,760
about him before. One of my one of my favorite

939
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,320
guys to watch this for the last few years been

940
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,519
Jesus Ramos junior.

941
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:27,199
Speaker 4: Uh.

942
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,639
Speaker 3: He's been fighting at junior middleweight where it's popping, as

943
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,320
you say, but he's now he's had a couple of

944
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,920
fights at middleweight. I believe his plans were to go

945
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,400
back to junior middleweight, but he got this opportunity on

946
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,159
this card, so he's taken on Sugar Shane Moseley Junior

947
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,400
Shane Mosey Junior Sugar Shane Mosey's son. Unfortunately, it's for

948
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920
an interim title, which I can't stand. But that's besides

949
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,800
the point. They're fighting for the WBC interim title, which

950
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,519
is you know, it is what it is. Adamis is

951
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,400
the actual champion, but nonetheless it's a it's a solid matchup.

952
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,599
And then they don't have an opponent lined up one

953
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,840
hundred percent yet. But the other pay per viewfight will

954
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,400
be the the the junior middleweight Isaac Lucero. They're talking

955
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,119
about him maybe fighting against Tony Harrison, who's coming off

956
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:08,679
a win from a few weeks ago after a long lap.

957
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,400
We'll see if they get that don or they'll have

958
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:13,000
some other opponent. But that's your lineup. You got, you know,

959
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,280
a couple of uh, you know, the top two fights

960
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,000
are you know interesting? You got Ramos and Mosley, which

961
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,760
has got some interest on its own, and then Isaac

962
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Lucero and then whatever else they put on the preliminary card.

963
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,360
But that they announced all that stuff and they had

964
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,199
the press commerce on Wednesday, and it'll be a fun

965
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,599
promotion and hopefully a good fight.

966
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: All right.

967
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: One more note as well, as we've got some time

968
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,039
for that fundorra Thurman to get geared up at the

969
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:43,880
end of October, and that is that Suprio Mattias is

970
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,159
going to have his mandatory defense with Dalton Smith of England.

971
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,440
But there's now a twist involving the purse bid. Give

972
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,039
us the quick update here on that if you would.

973
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: So you remember that when they had the fight the

974
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,679
Ring Magazine card that we referenced, which was the main

975
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,639
event that was shirt course Stevenson was on the card right.

976
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,360
The main event that night was Hamsa Shiraz in his

977
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:09,320
victory by knockout against Edgar Berlanga. And after this and

978
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,920
on the undercard, Sabril Mattias won the WBC one hundred

979
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,920
four TIWN title against Alberto Playo. And when the fight

980
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:19,159
was over, you had Turkey al Sheik in the ring.

981
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
You had Alberto Playo in the ring, and Dalton Smith

982
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,400
from England was ring side watching the fight. He got

983
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,800
in the ring, they posed for pictures and Turkey al

984
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Sheik took the microphone and announced that he was adding

985
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,400
that fight to the big card that he's got, you

986
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,119
know coming up.

987
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: As he's prone to do pretty well.

988
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's Turkey's world and we live in it, right,

989
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,920
So he's got that big, humongous card on November twenty

990
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,400
second and read which is an awesome show. You know

991
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,639
Benavidez against Anthony Yard. You got Bam Rodriguez against Puma

992
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:48,079
Martinez to unify at one fifteen. You got Devin Haney

993
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:51,079
against you know, challenging Brian Norman. He got the young guys,

994
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,159
and that Mason against Sam Noakes. I mean it's a

995
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,760
great card. And then you add you say, I'm putting

996
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,280
Subril Mattias against Dalton Smith. Oh, I make it even better, right, Well,

997
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,199
it turns out he didn't actually have a deal done,

998
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,760
and so the fight was put up for a purspit.

999
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,800
They never made a deal in terms of the all

1000
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,119
the particulars that have to get done, and I kind

1001
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:11,760
of thought, well, they might make a deal by the

1002
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,519
time the perspit came around, or you know, whatever the

1003
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:16,639
case would be, or maybe Mattroom Boxing, which is the

1004
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,239
promoter of Dalton Smith, would win it. And obviously they've

1005
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,000
worked closely with Turkey that the fight would still land

1006
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,719
on that show. But as it turned out, the promoter

1007
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,880
for Suberillmatias won Orango from Fresh Productions in Puerto Rico,

1008
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,000
which is where he's from, won the persp at one

1009
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,880
point nine million dollars, beat the other offer, which was

1010
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,039
from Mattroom at one million, seven hundred and ten thousand dollars,

1011
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,639
and so now they've got the rights to do the fight. Now,

1012
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,480
then the WBC has said to me they don't have

1013
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,719
a specific date, but it does have to take place

1014
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,679
within a certain time frame. I believe it's ninety days.

1015
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,079
And they've told the WBC they're planning to do the

1016
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,039
fight in Puerto Rico, and so they're going to bring

1017
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,760
Dalton Smith to Puerto Rico and mount the fight on

1018
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,679
their own and so interesting, it won't be on that

1019
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,159
November card and it now you know, the question is

1020
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,239
I assume that Alton Smith will still take the fight

1021
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,360
and travel. I mean, you don't get to that position

1022
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,679
to just throw it away. And it's not like he's

1023
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,679
not getting paid a nice amount of money. I'm sure

1024
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,159
it's his biggest pers so with the winning bid that

1025
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,920
was put up one point nine million. Now, the way

1026
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,039
the WBC does things, I always find this very interesting.

1027
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: I like this.

1028
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: I wish the other organizations would do it as well.

1029
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:19,039
That they take ten percent of the winning bid and

1030
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,440
the organization holds it and they give it to the

1031
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,119
winner as a bonus. The remaining ninety percent of the bid,

1032
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,480
so the winner will get that one hundred whoever wins

1033
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:29,360
the fight gets an extra one to ninety one hundred

1034
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,599
and ninety thousand dollars as a win bonus. The other

1035
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,719
money that's besides that one ninety leaves one million, seven

1036
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,559
hundred and ten thousand dollars that is being split on

1037
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,480
the seventy thirty basis, seventy percent in favor of the

1038
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:45,519
champion subral Mattias thirty percent in favor, you know, for

1039
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:50,280
a Dalton Smith, so the guys get good perses. You

1040
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
got you got Dalton Smith as the challenger, who's never

1041
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,000
fought a fight of this caliber area and close to it.

1042
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,679
He gets five hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. That's good

1043
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,320
money for him in this fight. He got Mattias, who

1044
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,079
under the purse kid now he could have a side

1045
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:03,920
deal with this promoter for all we know, but under

1046
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,360
the terms of the bid, he would be entitled to

1047
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,280
one million, one hundred and ninety seven thousand dollars in

1048
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,480
like I said, whoever wins the fight, you know, throws

1049
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,480
in another almost two hundred grand on top of interesting.

1050
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:16,679
Speaker 2: They'll do that fight look for the same timeline, like

1051
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,480
November December, because that's the that's the mandate from the WBC.

1052
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: You got to have the fight by then.

1053
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,599
Speaker 2: And here's hoping that Mattias looks a whole lot better

1054
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,559
than the nerve Gas or whatever happened to him in

1055
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,760
the locker room before he fought Liam Paro and did

1056
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,519
absolutely nothing in his hometown and got beat.

1057
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: You know, you've bring that up a lot when you

1058
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,800
talk about Matias, but you forget the fact that he's

1059
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,519
had a few fights since then, and he's looked pretty good.

1060
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:38,440
He looked good against.

1061
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,159
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but that night for whatever reason, and then

1062
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:43,400
and you got to bring it up.

1063
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: Well, when we bring up the fact that Duran quit

1064
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,480
against Sugar Ray Leonard, every single time he.

1065
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,079
Speaker 1: Brings him brought you just brought it up again.

1066
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I don't could have brought up

1067
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,320
any but.

1068
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,159
Speaker 1: You proved the point.

1069
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,119
Speaker 2: You could have brought up anything with Erberto Durant, and

1070
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:56,360
the first thing you said was quit against Sugar Ray Leonard.

1071
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: So there you go. Thank you, all right, I got the.

1072
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,079
Speaker 4: With that.

1073
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,599
Speaker 2: I think we've given you a bunch with the news

1074
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,199
and with the interview with Boachuk, who's going to be

1075
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,280
fighting next week. You and I will recap off the weekend.

1076
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,840
Happy football. By the way, I've got to go to

1077
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,239
Atlanta with the Buccaneers playing the Atlanta Falcons and the

1078
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,679
NFC South opener, Big Dandy, four time defending champion NFC

1079
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,400
South Tampa Bay Buccaneers start their season. I'm on their

1080
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,039
radio broadcast, so I will be in Atlanta and then

1081
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:28,360
I will be back Sunday night in time to sit

1082
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,760
with you and talk about these two separate fight cards

1083
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,599
in Mexico again, Sugar Nunes with his IBF one and

1084
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,639
thirty pound title defense, and then Oscar Valdez back in

1085
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,320
a separate card also on Saturday night. The former two

1086
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,199
division world champ will recap those and who knows what

1087
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,840
what else we come up with before you head to

1088
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,840
Las Vegas, My friend, deal, are we good?

1089
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1090
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: We're good. So while you're off to your game on site,

1091
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,320
I'm going to head to my couch to watch the

1092
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,599
New York Football Giants Obagas against.

1093
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:59,679
Speaker 2: The Commanders Washington Commanders on the weekend all the NFL

1094
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,480
again underway.

1095
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: People make the mistake a lot because I live in

1096
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,679
the suburban Washington, DC area that I'm a fan of

1097
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,199
the Washington You.

1098
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: Got no, you got no, elgi.

1099
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: I'm a New York fan.

1100
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,599
Speaker 2: And you are confirming you are not in Brazil with

1101
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,760
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift. I mean for that

1102
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,440
after party after they play on Friday night of this

1103
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:19,880
weekend in Brazil against the Chargers.

1104
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: You are confirming here you're not part of that side show.

1105
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,679
Speaker 2: Uh? Are you invited to the wedding? We'll find out

1106
00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:27,960
at a later date and the invitations go out on

1107
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,960
the Kelsey Swift wedding. With that, we get ready for

1108
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:33,360
all that's going to happen this weekend. For Van Rayphel,

1109
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,519
I'm merely TJ Reeves. Thank you for being with us

1110
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:37,280
here on the Big Fight Weekend Preview