WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:03.399 All right, welcome everybody. Today. I have with me the 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.000 one and only Nick Bryant. He is of course published 3 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:08.880 at the same publisher as myself as Sotary College with 4 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:10.359 three by the way, we'll be out in the next 5 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.240 few weeks, so get your signed copies at the shop. 6 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.320 You can also get Nick's books as well in the 7 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:19.039 trin Day shop. Nick, how you. 8 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:20.519 Doing, I'm doing good. 9 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:21.359 Jay, How you doing? 10 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:27.519 I'm doing well. It's you know, it's a massive Trump failure. Unfortunately, 11 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.399 not that I don't have a problem criticizing Trump, but 12 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.280 I was hoping for better. So today we're going to 13 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:35.960 be talking about an area that Nick is an expert in, 14 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:40.439 which is the whole domain of Jeff's nine mceffrey or 15 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:44.240 Jeffrey Epstein, if we're now using his full name, Nick, 16 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:46.000 how do you want to kick this off? And you 17 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:48.679 are somewhat of an expert in this, So how did 18 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:50.640 you get involved, first of all in studying Epstein? Then 19 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:52.479 we'll get into the case and where it's gone. Now. 20 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.679 I wrote a book which is published by Trying Day 21 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.399 called The Franklin Scanalist Story of Brokers How to Be 22 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:07.159 Some Betrayal, And in that book I was I worked 23 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.319 on for seven years, and it was about a huge 24 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.879 child trafficking network. In some ways, Epstein is kind of 25 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.519 a carbon copy of the Franklin scandal. And it was 26 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.280 published in two thousand and nine, two thousand and can 27 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:27.480 and we couldn't get anybody to touch it. I live 28 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.560 in New York City, I live in the mecca of publishing, 29 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.760 and I couldn't get And I had a lot of 30 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:38.879 buddies that in media, and one helped me, but it 31 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:45.359 didn't His help was somewhat ineffectual, and no editors, no 32 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.280 publishers wanted to touch it because I thought I could 33 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.560 get some attention on it, but accusing the government of 34 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.319 basically covering up a child traving. 35 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.000 Network in the very least, people didn't want to hear that. 36 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.239 And so the book published two thousand and nine, twenty ten, 37 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.639 and I really I put all the money I had 38 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.520 on it. I'm kind of a gambler. Not you won't 39 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.919 find me in casinos. But I moved to New York 40 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.360 City in nineteen ninety five. I'd been an academic for 41 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.240 five years and I moved to New York City in 42 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.879 nineteen ninety five to start a freelance writing career, and 43 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.319 I didn't get a I said to myself, well, should 44 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:28.680 I get a. 45 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:30.639 Like a part time job or something like that. 46 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.960 And I said, no, I'm going to dedicate every day 47 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.759 to getty writing gigs, and if I end up in 48 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.680 the park, I end up in the park. Well that time, 49 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.199 I did not end up in the park. Actually I 50 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:44.599 ended up in a pretty nice apartment. So in two 51 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.439 thousand and nine, twenty ten, I had about a year's 52 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.159 worth of money and I just said, I'm going to 53 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.840 focus on trying to sell the Franklin schedule. And then 54 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.240 I couldn't find anybody to touch it. And I worked 55 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.719 and worked and worked, and I had friends that were 56 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.520 that had their own columns and newspapers, guys that I'd 57 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:07.759 known I'm from Minneapolis, Guys that I'd known back in Minneapolis, 58 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.039 and they still wouldn't touch it. And actually, you know, 59 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.159 I knew that most of my friends were going to 60 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.000 be spineless, and most of the people in the media 61 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.639 were going to be spineless, but I didn't think all 62 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.599 of them were going to be spineless. And only one 63 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:24.199 of them has apologized to me, which and I think 64 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.159 that that's really cool, and we're good friends today. But 65 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.639 you know, he said, I could have helped you more, Nick, 66 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:34.319 and I'm sorry I didn't. Anyway, I started seeing these 67 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:38.520 articles about Epstein and it was very obvious that he 68 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.400 had a voracious appetite for underage girls. And then I 69 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:49.639 looked at the grand jury that found that he wasn't well. 70 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:51.639 I knew that there was a grand jury that found 71 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.840 that he hadn't abused a single child. So that gun 72 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.439 on my radar really quickly of something that I needed 73 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:03.879 to investigate. And point I had some extra money, and 74 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:08.199 I flew down to Florida, and this was two thousand 75 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:09.719 and two, and then I got his. 76 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.759 Black Book, and not early in two thousand and two, Yeah, 77 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:14.319 I got the. 78 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:19.120 Black Book, and then I started calling and the Black 79 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.439 Book has well over one hundred Epstein victims too, so 80 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:27.120 I victims, and they were telling me that they were 81 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.079 being flown around, and they were also telling me about 82 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.600 an island. And at that point point I was, I 83 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.639 think the only journalist to know that Epsteam was running. 84 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.000 In a network and he had an island. 85 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.759 And so I came back to New York City and 86 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.680 I was pitching the Black Book and no one wanted 87 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.959 to touch it. I mean, nobody wanted to touch it. 88 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:54.240 And it was the same cognitive dissonance that I experienced 89 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.439 when I was pitching Franklin. I would talk to these 90 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.279 editors and I would talk to these publis, and they 91 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.079 would say I could just see him thinking, you know, 92 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.480 this is a really horrible story. I need to help 93 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:11.959 Nick brian or I can take door B, which is 94 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.120 I can write Nick brian Off is crazy, and I 95 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.319 can have a nice dinner with my family tonight. 96 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:20.959 And they altered Door B. And then finally I met. 97 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.480 John Cook, who was the editor in chief of Gonker 98 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.399 at that point and which has since been suited into oblivion, 99 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:31.439 and he was willing to do it, and I said, 100 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:36.079 we need to redact the people's numbers, and we also 101 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:40.000 need to redact the victim's last names and their numbers, 102 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.720 and he was cool with that. So we published a 103 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:44.839 Black Book. And then at that point I had flight 104 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.279 logs too. I was the first guy to release flight logs. 105 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.519 And I wrote an article about the flight logs and 106 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:54.480 the Black Book, and we put them both up and. 107 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.560 Then now here's what's kind of interesting. 108 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.920 So once the Black Book was the floodgates opened on 109 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.759 the Black Book and every major media started to talk 110 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.759 about the Black Book, and one guy, I think it 111 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.959 was Mother Jones, called every name in the Black Book, 112 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.399 and of course everybody said, I don't know, I don't have. 113 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:18.199 Anything about Epstein. 114 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:26.360 But anyway, only two mainstream media outlets even acknowledged that 115 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.439 it was me that I shared the Black Book to 116 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:34.240 the Internet. And I don't know, maybe you get accused 117 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:40.000 of this, but on public media or social media, people say, well, 118 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.920 you know, Nick Bryant's just in here to control the narrative, 119 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:50.319 and he's obviously a limited hangout. And I put the 120 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.600 Black Book on the Internet and I didn't reenact anybody's names, 121 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.639 and two publications even acknowledged that it was me. So 122 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.040 I didn't do a very good job of controlling the 123 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:07.199 narrative on the Black Book. And then I just started 124 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:11.480 and at that point i'd or a little bit. 125 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:11.800 Down the road. 126 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.439 I met some Epstein victims and then I started talking 127 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.680 to them, and what they were telling me was very 128 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:21.720 in a lot of ways. 129 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:23.839 It was similar to the Franklin Network. 130 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:31.600 And I couldn't believe that the government was covering this 131 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:34.800 up again in broad daylight, in front of everybody, and 132 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.519 like it's trying to do now. And at that point 133 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.000 I started a protest. 134 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.560 I put together a demonstration against this. 135 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:49.759 Is during Delaine Maxwell's trial, which was really perfidious. There 136 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.160 were only four victims that were called, and those four 137 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:59.079 victims had been exclusively molested by Epstein and Maxwell, and 138 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:06.240 the US attorney overseen that trial, also oversaw the Diddy 139 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:11.240 grand jury. So again we see people getting recycled. Donald 140 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:15.079 Barr covered up the Franklin scandal when he was the 141 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.120 attorney general under Bush two, under Bush one, and then 142 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.000 he covered up the Franklin's. 143 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.399 Yeah, and he of course makes an appearance right away 144 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:26.079 in Whitney Webb's book and volume two, and you know 145 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:29.480 she notes that he was his dad was oss right 146 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:34.159 Bar senior. So we have from the very beginning the 147 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:39.080 connections to the intelligence agencies. And this I think applies 148 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.360 to Epstein as well. Right, we have Epstein being basically 149 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.840 an owner of multiple passports. We have people from you know, 150 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.919 Acosta says years ago, I was told not to touch 151 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.000 this guy. He's intelligence that plays a huge factor in this. 152 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.679 I'm sure, right, yes. 153 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:57.879 And. 154 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:02.080 I'm going to put you on something crazy real quick. 155 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:06.279 Most of these zoomer Jimbros are consuming macro guzzling synthetic 156 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:09.960 dyes and synthetic sweeteners on the daily. They don't even 157 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:13.279 know it. Goofy af. There's nothing great about that. 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Do not buy if you 196 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:33.600 are a beta, we will refund your money. 197 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:37.679 Back to what you were saying about intelligence connections, what. 198 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:42.799 William Barr is definitely an intelligence he and as even 199 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.120 on his White Watch Borkipedia pages, he says that he 200 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.960 was in the CIA for a number of years. And 201 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.840 it's also interesting that his father hired Jeffrey Epstein. 202 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:54.320 Yeah, exactly, a. 203 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.960 Teja dollon school and Jeffrey Epstein was a college dropout 204 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:02.559 from a blue Colarge family. His dad was a gardener 205 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:07.799 for the City of New York. And after the demonstration, 206 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:12.840 I'd met Epstein victims during the demonstration and after the demonstration, 207 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:16.039 and then at that point I could see that the 208 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.080 government was going to cover this up, and I started 209 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:24.279 Epstein Justice, which were what we're trying to do is 210 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:30.519 get a Truth and Reconciliation Commission from Congress to actually 211 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:34.159 investigate Jeffrey Epstein. This is something that needs to be investigated. 212 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.480 And when we go back to his background, I think 213 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.279 this is really crucial because I did an interview with 214 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.240 a friend of mine who's a Cold War historian buff 215 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.080 and he went deep into even getting into like the 216 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:50.639 KGB archives in terms of some of the colonels in 217 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.120 the KGB files and information that they had on Epstein 218 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.840 that was only recently translated into English. And what's interesting 219 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.000 is that even the KGB knew that Max Sancuse, Maxwell 220 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.440 Senior Robert was the sort of odd international you know, 221 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:10.039 mega cutout you could say, for British intelligence, it seems like, 222 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:14.159 as well as other intelligence agencies MASSAD as well. So 223 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.679 there's sort of like this higher level game that sort 224 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.039 of plays above the dialectic of East and the West 225 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:20.960 and the Cold War. And I want to ask you 226 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:25.559 the question, do you think that probably what happened here 227 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.759 was that you had you know, Maxwell and just Lane 228 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.639 sort of running this operation that he had sort of 229 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.679 perfected in the Cold War, and then they recruited Jeffrey 230 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.039 into being kind of the newer, updated version of the 231 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.240 same blackmail operation. 232 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:45.639 That's an entirely plausible scenario. Ery Ben Minashi says, that 233 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:52.000 Maxwell hooked Episosode because he thought that they would be 234 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:57.480 sweethearts together. And then ultimately that Glaine was inundated with 235 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:03.519 Israeli intelligence or Massad. And not only that, do we 236 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.600 have Alexander Acosta. Well, Alexander Acosta, as you said, was 237 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.600 told he was a US attorney for Southern Florida and 238 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.240 he was told to stand down on Epstein because Epstein 239 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:17.480 was intelligence. Now, if you look at how our government functions, 240 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.519 there's only two people in our government that can tell 241 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.519 a US attorney to stand down. I went to a 242 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:24.639 number of legal scholars and I'm talking to them about this. 243 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:29.080 There's two people, the Attorney general and the president. And 244 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.200 the Attorney General at that time was Alberto Gonzalez, and 245 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:38.679 the president was George Bush too, so and Alberto Gonzalez 246 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:40.639 as an attorney genal he's not going to cover up 247 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:45.000 a nationwide pedophile network unless his boss tells him to. 248 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.679 I mean, that's he's not going to preemptively do that, 249 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.559 and his boss obviously told him to. 250 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.519 So in two thousand and seven, there. 251 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.519 Was you saw the Bush administration just completely quash this, 252 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:04.200 and then every administration after that has continued to cover it. 253 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:04.519 Up. 254 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:12.159 And when Epstein was arrested the second time and at 255 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:18.240 Teterborough Airport in twenty nineteen, this is where we started 256 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:23.519 getting end up problems with the Trump cover story. The 257 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:28.759 MBI opened up his safe the next day and they 258 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:32.360 took out a lot of discs. 259 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:32.879 And. 260 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.320 According to Business Insider, they took out hard drives too. 261 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.240 Yeah, that's those pictures we've seen where they're carrying out 262 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.120 right at these stacks, and you've got these CD wrongs right. 263 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:44.159 And. 264 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.080 The New York Times reported that there were hundreds, possibly 265 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.480 thousands of images of child abuse material. 266 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.919 So when that strange memo came out last week. 267 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.559 That no one signed, no one was willing to sign, 268 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.960 I did agree with some of the things. I do 269 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.720 believe that there were over three hundred gigabytes of child 270 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.600 abuse material taken out of Epstein's safe. 271 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:11.279 But here's the thing. 272 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.879 BONDI was going to release the quote unquote Epstein files 273 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.039 or Epstein list. It was on her desk, and then 274 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:24.960 she released a nothing sandwich, and I do get a kickout. 275 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.159 I released more incriminating information on Epstein in twenty fifteen 276 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.600 than she released in the Black Book. I saw a 277 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.320 copy of the Black Book that was released and everybody's 278 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:37.320 name was redacted. 279 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.840 Yeah, I remember finding a couple of years ago, and 280 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.519 it must have been the one that I think it 281 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:44.720 was from that Mother Jones thing, because it has to 282 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.120 be the one that you originally had put up and 283 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.720 it had all the names still there and the numbers 284 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.120 still there. So when everybody saw this, it was like, 285 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.200 what the hell is this? You know, this this folder 286 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.840 SYP photo show shoot that they did what a few 287 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.440 year ago, a few months ago? This you know, these 288 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:05.200 prepackaged binders that they gave out. That was so ridiculous with. 289 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:09.880 The influencers, and you none of those influencers have screamed 290 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:10.839 for any kind. 291 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:12.920 Of truth since then. I guess they know where their 292 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:13.680 bread is buttered. 293 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.759 But BONDI, her first live was that she wanted us 294 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.599 to believe that the FBI and whatever dark, malignant corner 295 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.000 of intelligence deploys people like Epstein hadn't looked at that 296 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.440 stuff that had been taken out of Epstein's safe. I 297 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:29.960 mean that they had to look at it all they'd 298 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.759 been looking at that. They were looking at it, they 299 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.759 took it out, they were looking at it. They probably 300 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.839 didn't even sleep because there were a number of people 301 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:43.559 that were looking at it, so that is a complete 302 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:49.200 fabrication on her part. And then she said, well, I 303 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:54.640 was bamboozled by the FBI, and so that either shows 304 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.680 that she's lying or a napt I mean, depending upon 305 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:00.960 how you want to look at And I would kind 306 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:04.160 of lean towards a neck. She kind of reminds me 307 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:09.680 of a step Fard Attorney General anyway, So with her, 308 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.400 and then she said, and then she got herself into 309 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:18.480 deeper water when she said, I will the only thing 310 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.079 that will be redacted is. 311 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.920 Things I could have a bearing on national security. 312 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.559 Now she has to explain to us what a bunch 313 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.319 of child molesters have. 314 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:31.759 With national security. 315 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:36.000 So she kept on begging herself deeper and deeper and deeper, 316 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:39.079 and then the memo came out. 317 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:40.039 That strange memo. 318 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:44.119 And I do agree that there was over three hundred 319 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:49.680 gigabytes of child abuse material taken out of Epstein's closet, 320 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.640 and I do agree that there were over one thousand 321 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:53.720 Ebstein victims. 322 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.079 I agree with those things. 323 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.160 I adamantly disagree that Jeffrey Epstein molested all those girls 324 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:02.599 by himself, and I adamantly disagreed that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't 325 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.960 involved in black mail, and the Trump administration put a 326 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.039 white elephant in the living room by saying that they 327 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:15.519 were going to release the files and how much how 328 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:20.960 profuse those files were, and then they decided to kill 329 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.359 the white elephant. But the problem is the white elephant 330 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.079 might be dead, but it's still in the living room. 331 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.119 Yeah, this was such an optics nightmare. Idiot. It was 332 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:35.039 so stupid to do. I can't fathom. I mean, yeah, 333 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.440 I don't know if it's incompetence or just like just 334 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.759 if it's boomers who don't understand how media works now 335 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.440 that like they're not understanding that this isn't going to work, 336 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:47.240 and like I haven't seen anybody buying this except for 337 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.759 you know, Israel Firster's Ben Shapiro. I mean, it's not 338 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:53.960 only people that are buying this, is people like that. 339 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.039 So I don't know what they It's just a disaster 340 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.400 from every perspective. But maybe they're forced into it, right, 341 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:04.319 I mean, in other words, if it is a real 342 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.359 high power blackmail material, then it absolutely makes sense that 343 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.880 calls were made, threats were made, people were told you 344 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.279 better not release this. You know, who knows what all 345 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.000 is in there and who's implicated. But you know, we 346 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:23.319 have Ehud Barak visiting Epstein's residence in New York what 347 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.359 eight times or so according to the mainstream and Israeli media. 348 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.079 I mean, it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and 349 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.279 you being expert in the Franklin the scandal in this 350 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:32.680 one as well. I mean, I'm sure you see you 351 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:36.319 see all these parallels before we go onto the blackmail 352 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:38.960 stuff and what you're getting in with Bondie. I did 353 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.839 want to ask something that something that nobody's really bringing up, 354 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.759 which is in the first few chapters of Whitney's book, 355 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:51.519 which is the economics Wall Street area connection. Nobody's really 356 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:56.359 talking about how a lot of his early machinations comes 357 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:59.240 out of you know, Bear Stearns and these big Ponzi 358 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.519 scheme collapse, seeing entities on Wall Street back in the 359 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:07.200 eighties and nineties, and that you know, Maxwell was this 360 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:13.480 sort of a vulture capitalist takeover expert. Is there something 361 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:17.000 maybe in the economic Wall Street realm that's a big 362 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.720 part of this that people are just only fixating on, 363 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.039 you know, Bill Gates going to the island or something 364 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.960 like that. Is there something else, maybe that's a huge 365 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:30.920 angle to this that you think maybe people are missing. 366 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:40.480 Absolutely, when I initially got into this, and Les Wexner, 367 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.279 who's a billionaire head of L brands, gave Jeffrey Epstein 368 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.519 power of attorney I think it was in nineteen eighty 369 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.319 seven over his entire empire. He just basically gave Jeffrey 370 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:57.920 Epstein the keys to his kingdom. And I can't believe this. 371 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.960 I mean, the mainstream media has been so disingenuous about 372 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:06.200 this about Ebstein. But Vanity Fair, which one would think 373 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:11.799 of is a relatively sophisticated magazine, said that less Wexner, 374 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.200 I mean, and they said this, I mean, the difference 375 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.000 between truth and fiction is fiction has to make sense. 376 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:21.160 But Vanity Fair said, the reason why Les Wexner gave 377 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:24.720 Jeffrey Epstein power of attorney over his mast fortune is 378 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:31.359 because he was lonely. He was lonely. And then you've 379 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.480 got Leon Black, head of Apollo, who Jeffrey Epstein was 380 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.880 also pandering children too, and is just an all around scumbag. 381 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:43.519 He gave Jeffrey one hundred and sixteen million dollars and 382 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.960 now not There were a couple of media outlets that 383 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.039 report it on this, not just Vanity Fair. I mean 384 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.720 I don't know if Fanny Fair, but there were other 385 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:59.920 These media outlets reported that Leon Black gave Jeffrey Ebbs 386 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:04.880 seeing one hundred and sixty million dollars because Jeffrey Epstein 387 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.640 was helping him with his taxes. 388 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.920 Yeah right, Yeah, the cover stores are so ridiculous. 389 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.359 I mean, Leon Black probably has two or three floors 390 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:17.319 of accountants, so he doesn't have to pay a penny 391 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.359 more in taxes, which probably isn't very much. Probably you 392 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:26.480 and I paid more taxes than Leon Black, but I 393 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.240 and initially I thought this was all blackmail. I mean 394 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:34.400 that was my idea of it because I'd seen it 395 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:39.559 happen in the Franklin scandal. I'm actually thinking that Jeffrey 396 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:44.319 Epstein was cleaning money, that he was cleaning dirty money. 397 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.079 He was cleaning dirty money through Wexner, he was cleaning 398 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.799 dirty money through Leon Black, and god knows who else 399 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:55.119 he was cleaning dirty money through. So that is a 400 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.640 major component of this. Less Wesner didn't give him power 401 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:04.359