Speaker 1: L W Gary Jeff Walker on this Monday evening, Febuary
Speaker 1: the tenth, twenty twenty five. And if I sound happy,
Speaker 1: if it sounds like I've got a smile on my face,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm acting. Yes, I am getting over my Chiefs,
Speaker 1: not just loss but total annihilation by the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: last night at Super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: But I can truly say I know exactly how Bingals
Speaker 1: fans feel about losing in the Super Bowl, even though
Speaker 1: Bingals fans have experienced it three times. All I can
Speaker 1: tell you is the amount of I don't disdain. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it outright hatred in most cases, but disdain
Speaker 1: people had when they found out I was rooting for
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs when no one in the world
Speaker 1: was rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs save our select few.
Speaker 1: But I can truly say, also, a loss is a loss.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know it looked pretty bad, look pretty bad in
Speaker 1: the first half, look pretty bad in the first quarter
Speaker 1: for that matter. Last night, the Eagles defense obviously was
Speaker 1: a star of the show. Jalen Hurtz gets the MVP nod,
Speaker 1: although I believe that MVP should have been a team
Speaker 1: Award for defense from Philadelphia because they were every Poor
Speaker 1: Patty was on his butt six times via eagle sacks
Speaker 1: two interceptions, didn't fare much better at connecting with his man,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. It was just a total domination. And being
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan, I'm the first to admit it. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't in sackcloth and nashes. There was no nailing,
Speaker 1: gnashing a wailing or gnashing of teeth or nailing or
Speaker 1: wasashing of teeth either one, although you could always got
Speaker 1: to use a good teeth swash whatever that is. So
Speaker 1: on my part, I mean, I wasn't like depressed. I
Speaker 1: didn't wake up this morning going, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: world looks terrible the Chief's loss. No, I do not
Speaker 1: live and die with wins or losses by the team
Speaker 1: I have and to be rooting for, unlike a lot
Speaker 1: of other people I know. I mean, there are people
Speaker 1: I'm sure who were Chiefs fans, the few of us
Speaker 1: that were left in America, who are even tonight, more
Speaker 1: than twenty four hours later after the devastation, thinking to themselves,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'll ever go on. I can't
Speaker 1: wait till next year. Maybe I'm not even looking forward
Speaker 1: to next year. Maybe this is the end for Mahome's
Speaker 1: magic and the Chiefs domination of the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 1: And maybe it is, and if that's the case, I'll
Speaker 1: live with it. It's all right. But it reminded me
Speaker 1: so much of the Bears' domination of the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots in the Super Bowl of nineteen eighty six, where
Speaker 1: the Bears defense same kind of dominating defense led by
Speaker 1: Ditka and the Boys, and they simply crushed the Patriots
Speaker 1: like they were grapes. They were making wine out of
Speaker 1: New England basically by halftime of that Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: it looked a lot like that. Forty to twenty two
Speaker 1: is not far off from forty six to ten, and
Speaker 1: forty to twenty two is really not a true indicator
Speaker 1: of how the Eagles dominated my Chiefs last night. So
Speaker 1: I old wild Man a dollar. We'll talk to him
Speaker 1: about that a little bit later on the show. Before then,
Speaker 1: it's it's quite an incredible nightcap that's ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Between now and midnight, we'll have Joe Evermore, who he
Speaker 1: was the father of two amazing mountain climbing kids. Another
Speaker 1: record set for the youngest ever to reach the Matterhorn.
Speaker 1: And there are some other peaks which we will document
Speaker 1: in our conversation just a few moments away. Also excited
Speaker 1: because I am a lifelong Blue Bloods fan. That's right,
Speaker 1: the TV series that just can included last year as
Speaker 1: they finally hung it up, Commissioner Reagan and the family
Speaker 1: at the dinner table finally decided to go their separate
Speaker 1: ways and not produce any more fantastic network television. We
Speaker 1: have Kevin Wade, who was a show runner for Blue
Speaker 1: Bloods for like eleven seasons and also is a screenwriter,
Speaker 1: many many great credits to his name and his pen
Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to Kevin Wade tonight. Kenneth Abramowt's
Speaker 1: latest one international geopolitical stuff. Jim Reneesi, former Ohio Senate
Speaker 1: and gubernatorial candidate. I'll ask him his thoughts about the
Speaker 1: fact that Jim Tressel, that's right, Coach Tressel, as of
Speaker 1: today named the new Lieutenant Governor of the Great State
Speaker 1: of Ohio. I guess urban Meyer was busy with his
Speaker 1: podcast Pastor Mark Builts on what is ahead for us
Speaker 1: according to the Scriptures and also Al Risa Jeverasardi. Now
Speaker 1: I've been practicing this name ever since I booked this
Speaker 1: guest last week, Ali Reza, Jeff Farzada. He is an
Speaker 1: expert on Iran, and Iran is at the top of
Speaker 1: the ticket when you're talking about Gaza and the state
Speaker 1: sponsored terrorism that Iran has been funding under the Biden
Speaker 1: administration that may no longer be possible under a Trump administration,
Speaker 1: the Trump effect, and what is changing in the country
Speaker 1: of Iran right now as we talk tonight. Anyway, Joe
Speaker 1: Evermore is coming up next, and I will not ask
Speaker 1: him who he had in the super Bowl, because frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care who you had in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Most of my friends and most of
Speaker 1: the people I talked to were Eagles all the way
Speaker 1: because they were just tired of KC. I get that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sad, So send no condolence cards. Wild
Speaker 1: Man will get his dollar and we will begin in
Speaker 1: earnest the Nightcap in just moments on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Bengals fans, I know how you feel.
Speaker 1: I know how it feels to be a fan of
Speaker 1: a team that lost to Super Bowl. Only I'm only
Speaker 1: dealing with one as of right now. And that was
Speaker 1: last night. I saw the ten year old and the
Speaker 1: seven year old that are setting records for mountain climbing
Speaker 1: at some of the world's tallest peaks and most challenging
Speaker 1: climb and the pitchman was offering their father to come
Speaker 1: and talk to me. I said, I got a chat
Speaker 1: with this guy, and so as a result of that,
Speaker 1: thank you for him allowing us some time out of
Speaker 1: his very busy day. Obviously very busy all the time,
Speaker 1: especially with two young, growing boys who like to climb mountains.
Speaker 1: Joe evermore, joins us for a few minutes on the
Speaker 1: nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Good evening, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1: So tell me about you. First, You've obviously always been
Speaker 1: into mountain climbing, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ever since I was a kid.
Speaker 4: When I was a little kid, I would tell people
Speaker 4: I want to be a mountain climber when I grow up,
Speaker 4: and so I had no idea what that is, and
Speaker 4: I get that's not what I do occupationally now, but
Speaker 4: it's still a part of our DNA and we climb
Speaker 4: climb big staff at our kids. It's really how.
Speaker 3: We develop and grow them to be then Wow.
Speaker 1: That's that's it's an incredible story, the challenges that come
Speaker 1: and the cheating, death and all of that and being
Speaker 1: as careful as you can. I noticed that just recently
Speaker 1: you have a ten year old that you climbed the
Speaker 1: Matterhorn with and the Swiss Alps back in the fall
Speaker 1: or late summer, early fall, and now your seven year
Speaker 1: old has also mounted some some pretty serious climbs. Let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about the ten year old. First. Matt. Is
Speaker 1: that his name Matt.
Speaker 4: Sam sam Samuel Samuel Adventure, their oldest.
Speaker 1: Play, Samuel Adventure. Yep, that's that's his that's his legal name.
Speaker 3: Yes, his middle names Adventure.
Speaker 1: That's Great Sam Adventure. Yeah. Tell me about the Matterhorn climb, Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the matter of Its presents captivating mountain in
Speaker 4: the world. It's definitely the most famous mountain in the world.
Speaker 4: And it's in Switzerland, and we planned it out for
Speaker 4: a year in advance, and there's a lot of logistics
Speaker 4: to pull this off with a kid, and we got
Speaker 4: within about twelve hundred feet of the summit and hit
Speaker 4: a turnaround time cut off only by about five minutes.
Speaker 3: But I made the.
Speaker 4: Decision to turn around and even though the day was perfect,
Speaker 4: we turned around and are actually hoping to go back and.
Speaker 3: Try it again, but we didn't.
Speaker 4: I wanted to teach Sand to respect the mountain first,
Speaker 4: And it was sad, but a hard decision to, you know,
Speaker 4: make it right at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was a rock fall or something that
Speaker 1: was endangering him reaching the summit correct.
Speaker 4: Well, well, not necessarily. It's just an arbitrary it's kind
Speaker 4: of an arbitrary time. But if you if you hit
Speaker 4: the summit of this mountain at like eleven o'clock in
Speaker 4: the morning and you can hardly even fly a kite
Speaker 4: because there's just no weather. But at three pm on
Speaker 4: the average day, you could have one hundred mile a
Speaker 4: mile an hour wind in a total white out, And
Speaker 4: to just get caught in any of that and then
Speaker 4: get off route on this particular mountain is like for
Speaker 4: sure going to kill you. And so it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's just trying to teach Sand respect the mountain and you.
Speaker 3: Know, and to do the right thing.
Speaker 4: And so we're gonna have to get up a few
Speaker 4: minutes earlier on the next one and be a little
Speaker 4: more prepared. I was just suffering from shingles, and so
Speaker 4: I was I was actually kind of the one slow.
Speaker 3: On the stand a little bit.
Speaker 1: Gee, I can't imagine if you're in those in that climate,
Speaker 1: you're in that environment, you're climbing a mountain, and you're
Speaker 1: dealing with shingles. I just can't either. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine dealing with shingles sitting here on the radio
Speaker 1: right now. I just the pain and the itching and
Speaker 1: the whole ball of wax.
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
Speaker 3: I didn't sleep one hour of the day before and
Speaker 3: the night before and just just was just in total agony.
Speaker 4: And yet that was the plan, like we you set
Speaker 4: these things months in advance, and doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going for it with Joe. I may
Speaker 1: have misread you have two sons or just Sam.
Speaker 4: I actually have four sons, so i'll give you. I'll
Speaker 4: run down the name. So I have Sam Adventure. He's
Speaker 4: ten and he's also the youngest person to climb out
Speaker 4: kept his hand. Then we have Sylvan light Year, who's
Speaker 4: just turned eight this week at the Great Wolf Loge
Speaker 4: with his birthday. That's what we've been talking about for
Speaker 4: these newest.
Speaker 3: Crazy things we've pulled off.
Speaker 4: Then we have Joey Danger who's five and he's already
Speaker 4: summoning some mountains. And lastly we got a brand new
Speaker 4: one named Blaze Wilder, and he's definitely everybody's favorite. He's
Speaker 4: just this little hand that we carry around and cuddle with,
Speaker 4: and that's real cute. He's only a couple months old.
Speaker 4: Wilder is a great radio name. I mean, I wish
Speaker 4: I'd picked that for my disc jockey name. It's Blaze
Speaker 4: Wilder right here.
Speaker 1: Oh, so the five the five year old has summited
Speaker 1: some mountains, she said, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So we started out when they're five. And the first
Speaker 4: mountain we do is Tingora in the circu of the
Speaker 4: Towers in Wyoming, and it's a big deal. You have
Speaker 4: to to hike about eleven miles just to get to
Speaker 4: this mountain, so's the backpack trip. And then the mountain
Speaker 4: is massive and it takes a full day of adventure.
Speaker 4: And what was unique about this last summer is that
Speaker 4: Sam led the pitches and so he was like the leader. He's,
Speaker 4: you know, the ten year old leading, and then Sylvan
Speaker 4: would climb alongside Joey. Sam sets the anchors and then
Speaker 4: me and Ann set up another system to kind of
Speaker 4: chaperon the whole thing. And you know it's because Sylvan
Speaker 4: and Sam had already climbed ping Goora and so it
Speaker 4: was like, now Joey's turn, and it I'll just kind
Speaker 4: of came together and we did this epic thing. And
Speaker 4: what was so hard about that was that my wife
Speaker 4: was doing it five months pregnant, and so we've got
Speaker 4: the whole family on top of this really really red mountain.
Speaker 1: So your wife is five months pregnant, and then in
Speaker 1: the case of the matter horn, you had the shingles.
Speaker 1: Nothing stops you. People, This is amazing. Tell me a
Speaker 1: little bit about Anne and your your wife, joe she is.
Speaker 4: She's a special woman. She's like as good as it
Speaker 4: gets when it comes to having a wife. Like she's
Speaker 4: she's fun and always up for anything, okay. And we
Speaker 4: really fell in love climbing a mountain in that same place,
Speaker 4: in the circuit of the towers on this wall called
Speaker 4: Wolf's Head, and the two of us and two of
Speaker 4: the guys got stranded up on this mountain overnight, oh
Speaker 4: and just shivered, s gibbered all night. And that's when
Speaker 4: I realized, I said, Man, this is this girl's marriage material.
Speaker 4: I think, I think you can keep up with this,
Speaker 4: And soon after that that I was talking to her
Speaker 4: dad about marrying her.
Speaker 1: What was what was the first mountain you climbed.
Speaker 3: Joe, That's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I climbed the Grand Teton in my hiking boots when
Speaker 4: I was in high school. I must have been in
Speaker 4: like tenth grade, and I had a buddy who drove
Speaker 4: out there with me and we climbed that. That's probably
Speaker 4: the one that I most remember.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The thing that amazes me is that how you have
Speaker 1: this inspiration when you're a kid. You just knew. When
Speaker 1: I was seven years old, I was listening to the radio.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, that's what I want to do,
Speaker 1: and thankfully God has allowed me to do that since
Speaker 1: I was nineteen as a job. All these years later,
Speaker 1: I look back on it, and I guess know, most people,
Speaker 1: most people when they're kids, if they have any imagination
Speaker 1: at all or any ambition at all, have you know,
Speaker 1: dreams that they want to pursue. And very few of
Speaker 1: us get to pursue those dreams into our adult lives.
Speaker 1: But you have. And it's just such an amazing story.
Speaker 1: Four kids, a wife and plenty of mountains around to climb.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and talk talk to that if you will.
Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna say with what you're saying
Speaker 4: is so true, and I think it's our role as
Speaker 4: the father, my role as my as the father, I
Speaker 4: say it. I'm always trying to find that superpower in
Speaker 4: each of my boys and really kind of figure it
Speaker 4: out and then help them, like, you know, develop it
Speaker 4: and you know, because it's like there's potential there, but
Speaker 4: we've got to develop that thing and build that thing.
Speaker 4: And that's one of my favorite parts of being of
Speaker 4: dad is, you know, having those conversations with Ann trying
Speaker 4: to figure out what is each boy superpower? How can
Speaker 4: we develop them toward that kind of rock climbing is
Speaker 4: kind of a prerequisite though it.
Speaker 3: Isn't it isn't necessarily what.
Speaker 4: They have to do in life, but it's just part
Speaker 4: of our family. But but but yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 4: figure that out for each boy.
Speaker 1: Well that's great, that's great. I mean, what's the uh,
Speaker 1: what's the next goal?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, so first of all, we do one massive Massagi
Speaker 4: goal for each person or our family each year, and
Speaker 4: so it's like we always have it, and so to
Speaker 4: be one of our goals, there's three rules. One, it's
Speaker 4: got to be really visual, so like we can imagine
Speaker 4: it being on our wall.
Speaker 3: Which we literally put these on our wall. It's like
Speaker 3: our house is full of them.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Number two, it's it's got to be hard enough that
Speaker 4: you have to train and work towards your goal a
Speaker 4: little bit every single day, because if it's not almost impossible,
Speaker 4: then you're not really going to work at it every day.
Speaker 4: And then three, well, number three is really important.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's that you can't die. And so we have to
Speaker 4: have the right training, the right preparation, the right team,
Speaker 4: and the right plan you know, at the right time
Speaker 4: of year, uh, and the right weather to pull it off.
Speaker 4: And so we got to line all that up and
Speaker 4: not die on the uh on these mountains?
Speaker 2: Who do? So?
Speaker 1: How can people find out more about and learn about
Speaker 1: your story? This is just an amazing story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean best in follow Sam his follow follow
Speaker 4: him on Instagram at Samuel Adventure. All of those boys' names.
Speaker 4: I gave him Instagram accounts and so you can follow
Speaker 4: any of them. They're also on Facebook and you can
Speaker 4: also follow me at just the Evermores all right.
Speaker 1: What's your middle name, Joe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my middle name is Emmett. Uh.
Speaker 4: My parents didn't have as much vision for naming as
Speaker 4: the God's given me.
Speaker 1: Your parents weren't as creative when it came to middle names. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a blast to talking to you. And again, give
Speaker 1: me Sam's Instagram. What is it?
Speaker 2: Just?
Speaker 4: Sam Adventure, Samuel Adventure, Yamuel. If you put in Sam's Venture,
Speaker 4: you'll find them.
Speaker 1: What part of the country do you live in, Joe?
Speaker 3: We live in Colorado. This is like Colorado Springs. We
Speaker 3: think it's like the Holy Land here.
Speaker 1: Great, perfect for mountain climbers.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's why where are you at?
Speaker 1: We're in We're in Cincinnati, Ohio, live just south of
Speaker 1: downtown on the Kentucky side.
Speaker 4: And it's well, I got I got some vrbos out
Speaker 4: here if you want to come out to Colorado sometimes.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that sounds fun, but I'm probably not going
Speaker 1: to climb a mountain if I've got shingles.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh man, Well when you don't have it, I'll
Speaker 3: take you, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Joe Evermore and Sam Adventure and uh, the other
Speaker 1: kid's names, Sam Adventure, Ye, Sylvan light Year.
Speaker 4: Joey Danger, Joey Danger, the Blaze Wilder and that's their name.
Speaker 4: Their names can be for a whole other program sometimes.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks so much, man, this is interesting stuff. Great,
Speaker 1: great to talk with you. That's Joe Evermore his mountain
Speaker 1: climbing family out in Colorado. On the Nightcap, back after
Speaker 1: News with Kevin Wade, who was a show runner for
Speaker 1: Blue Bloods for the entire run of that television series,
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Next on seven hundred WLW if
Speaker 1: long from the beginning of the show. Fan and devotee
Speaker 1: of Blue Bloods, the television show it just concluded this fall,
Speaker 1: and I heard that this guy, along with being a
Speaker 1: screenwriter and the writer of the new book which we
Speaker 1: will discuss, Johnny Careless, he was a show runner for
Speaker 1: Blue Bloods for what eleven seasons. Kevin Wade joins us
Speaker 1: on the Nightcap. Kevin, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have all kinds of questions about
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck and and Aaron and Danny and all of
Speaker 1: the rest of the crew, which I know that you
Speaker 1: came into contact with you had to over eleven years.
Speaker 3: Is the show right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'll take all of them. Man. I joined
Speaker 2: Blue Bloods in its first season as a writer, and
Speaker 2: by the second season, Leonard Goldberg, the creator of the show,
Speaker 2: asked me to take over as showrunner, which is a
Speaker 2: nebulous term that I'll explain to your audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Please tell me what a show runner is.
Speaker 2: A showrunner is the head writer and the head diplomat
Speaker 2: between the writers and the cast, and then his other
Speaker 2: duties are completely dependent on the tone of the show,
Speaker 2: the network that it's on, or the streaming service and
Speaker 2: everything else. So I was sort of chief cook, bottle washer,
Speaker 2: ed writer, and backseat driver.
Speaker 1: You had a whole lot of titles, wear a lot
Speaker 1: of hats when you're a showrunner. I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about the dynamics of
Speaker 1: that cast, because they always appeared to be very close knit.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the Sunday dinners where
Speaker 1: they would sit at the table and apparently listen to
Speaker 1: some of the cast members eat for hours or at
Speaker 1: least pretend to eat for hours. Was it a close
Speaker 1: knit group? They really? They came through that.
Speaker 2: Way, that's true, and they were, and you know, it
Speaker 2: becomes when you run that long. We were on for
Speaker 2: fourteen seasons at around twenty twenty one episodes. This season
Speaker 2: it was almost three hundred episodes. And when you're playing that,
Speaker 2: whether it's in a stage play or in a series
Speaker 2: of motion pictures, or certainly on a fourteen year run,
Speaker 2: you inhabit your role and their roles were brother, sister, father, grandfather, nephew,
Speaker 2: so you tended to do that.
Speaker 1: Everybody there was.
Speaker 2: A talented actor who I think felt very blessed to
Speaker 2: be on that long running train. So it engendered a
Speaker 2: very nice, very collegiate place to work.
Speaker 1: You also worked as a noted screenwriter. I mean, amongst
Speaker 1: your credits made in Manhattan, Working Girl, Meet Joe Black,
Speaker 1: Mister Baseball, True Colors.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: You decided to write a book when the Hollywood writers
Speaker 1: strike kind of took you off the field. There put
Speaker 1: you on and everybody everybody off the field, and you
Speaker 1: had a pandemic. So you had some extra time and decided,
Speaker 1: I'm going to write a book, Johnny Careless.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was. We were two months into a six
Speaker 2: month writers and Actors strike in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: I was so used to being on a network broadcast
Speaker 2: television schedule, that being, you know, a six and a
Speaker 2: half day, sixty hour week that I found I was
Speaker 2: at odds. I didn't know what to do, so I
Speaker 2: said down, I always wanted to write a book. I
Speaker 2: will try writing a book, and god knows I had
Speaker 2: the time. So I finished it pretty quickly. And now
Speaker 2: it's now I'm on your wonderful radio show talking about
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: So tell me about Johnny Careless. Johnny Chambless.
Speaker 2: Johnny Chambless is a good guy, but kind of a
Speaker 2: ne'er do well, way over privileged. He sort of rebel
Speaker 2: without a clue whose best friend or one of his
Speaker 2: best friends? Growing up as the son of a cop
Speaker 2: from an adjacent town, and the story is told in
Speaker 2: the present day and going back in the past. So
Speaker 2: we watched these two grow up together in comradeship and
Speaker 2: in conflict. But on page two of the book, Johnny
Speaker 2: Chambliss aka Johnny Careless washes up dead on the beach
Speaker 2: where Jeep Mulane, the hero of the story, where he
Speaker 2: lives and works.
Speaker 1: Wow, so's you kill off the main character on page two?
Speaker 2: I love it. Character.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the title character is dead on page two.
Speaker 1: And it's all about the inner workings of how he
Speaker 1: got that way. I would imagine.
Speaker 2: It is and it takes place, and you know, like
Speaker 2: Carl Hyas in writing about Florida, or Dennis Lahane about Boston,
Speaker 2: or Michael Connolly about Los Angeles, it's very much the
Speaker 2: setting is one of the characters. The north Shore of
Speaker 2: Long Island is an old and moneyed and class conscious
Speaker 2: area of metropolitan New York and so for a guy
Speaker 2: like Jeep Mulane, who grew up the son of a
Speaker 2: cop in a lower middle class neighborhood, mixing with these
Speaker 2: folks became an exercise in kind of straddling the fence
Speaker 2: when he was growing up. And now he's bounced back
Speaker 2: after being in ny D cop to being a local
Speaker 2: police chief. So it's as much the story of a
Speaker 2: guy with his nose pressed to the glass looking in,
Speaker 2: and yet at the same time he's also the authority.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of goes back and forth across those divisions.
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting dynamic. Talking to Kevin Wade, the
Speaker 1: author of Johnny Careless and showrunner as I mentioned, for
Speaker 1: Blue Bloods ever since their first season, and a screenwriter,
Speaker 1: did you have any particularly favorite I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: they're all your babies when you're writing something and creating
Speaker 1: something for the screen. Do you have a favorite of
Speaker 1: the ones that I mentioned that Joe Black The Working Girl.
Speaker 2: Well that's a great you know. I think Working Girl
Speaker 2: because it was it was the first screenplay I wrote,
Speaker 2: and I was, I think thirty two, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Mike Nichols was directing it, and Harrison Ford
Speaker 2: and Sigourney Weaburn and me Any Griffith were in it,
Speaker 2: and I kind of went from zero to sixty in
Speaker 2: a way that was head spinning, but certainly in the
Speaker 2: rear view mirror, a wonderful time in my life. I
Speaker 2: loved working on Blue Bloods all those years. Oh it's
Speaker 2: a cliche and show business that you become a family,
Speaker 2: but if you're fourteen years with the same crew and cast,
Speaker 2: you really kind of do. There's marriages and divorces and
Speaker 2: babies and deaths and all of it. So I would
Speaker 2: say that those were those were the highlights.
Speaker 1: You think Bridget moynihan was jealous of Tom Brady's success.
Speaker 2: I will be right back after this and no, I
Speaker 2: can answer that very easily. Absolutely not. I think she
Speaker 2: was happy for Tom Brady's success, and she is very
Speaker 2: happy for her own success and the wonderful the success
Speaker 2: of the wonderful sun Jack that they have together.
Speaker 1: That's why I love that. Will be right back, I
Speaker 1: tell you what. That's a cue for me because I
Speaker 1: need to take a quick break and we will come
Speaker 1: back and I've got some more very intense questions about
Speaker 1: Blue Bloods, and we'll cover how you got started doing
Speaker 1: this in the first place. I know that you said
Speaker 1: that The Working Girl was your first screenplay, but we'll
Speaker 1: figure out what the genesis of you writing screenplays was
Speaker 1: when we return with Kevin Wade on the night Cap
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. We're back talking with Kevin Wade
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff And like I said
Speaker 1: at the top, I've been looking forward to this interview
Speaker 1: for a long time as a and I'm still watching
Speaker 1: the darn reruns, Kevin, I can't even you know. Ion
Speaker 1: runs a full day a marathon of Blue Bloods every Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and if I'm home on a Wednesday, I know what
Speaker 1: I'm going to be watched on TV if I'm watching
Speaker 1: TV at all. So I've got to ask you what
Speaker 1: was what was the thing that got you into screenwriting
Speaker 1: in the first place? What had your background been? But
Speaker 1: what have you been doing before that? You were thirty two,
Speaker 1: you told me when Working Girl came out and you
Speaker 1: wrote the screenplay for that. What had Kevin Wade been
Speaker 1: doing before that?
Speaker 2: I dropped out of college when I was nineteen and
Speaker 2: moved to New York to become an actor. New York
Speaker 2: mostly cast me as a bartender, so by the time
Speaker 2: I was twenty five, I could not quite figure out
Speaker 2: a path. But I knew that I'd been in a
Speaker 2: lot of pretty bad plays and it looked like the
Speaker 2: playwright was having a good time. So I wrote a
Speaker 2: play called Key Exchange, which is in I think nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty one. Audiences liked it and critics liked it, so
Speaker 2: I kind of had a career as a playwright before
Speaker 2: I got into screenwriting. I had three plays done in
Speaker 2: New York that had some success, and then Hollywood knocked
Speaker 2: in the form of a guy named Doug Wick who
Speaker 2: produced a bunch of movies, including Gladiators one and two.
Speaker 2: Gladiator two was just out, and I did Working Girl,
Speaker 2: and then I had about fifteen years of writing screenplays
Speaker 2: and then one day the movie phone stopped ringing. As
Speaker 2: it does, they just don't tell you in advance, and
Speaker 2: I looked around for another job, and there was television
Speaker 2: and a lot of my friends were working there, and
Speaker 2: I'd worked with Leonard Goldberg and Tom Selleck. So when
Speaker 2: they were in New York just beginning to film Blue Bloods,
Speaker 2: I went in to say hi and meet them and
Speaker 2: kind of started as a writer on that pretty much
Speaker 2: the next day.
Speaker 1: Amazing's funny the parallels, even though I've not written any
Speaker 1: hit TV shows or big movies. I dropped out of
Speaker 1: college at night team to become a disc jockey, and
Speaker 1: today I do talk and I'm a bartender as well.
Speaker 1: Not playing a bartender. I actually play a bartender in
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 2: So you know what, it's my second favorite job. Do
Speaker 2: you enjoy doing it?
Speaker 1: I do? I enjoy. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 1: I think the perfect job is the one where you
Speaker 1: enjoy going to work and you enjoy leaving work. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when the job is done, you're
Speaker 1: ready to after eight hours. I'm not hanging out at
Speaker 1: the bar. I'm not taking I'm not taking that free
Speaker 1: shot or two from the customers who want to buy
Speaker 1: me one. I'm like, I'm headed home. I've had eight
Speaker 1: hours here, I'm done. Yeah, And in this job, I
Speaker 1: love coming to do radio and when it's done, I
Speaker 1: love going home. And the only reason I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't totally leave it behind, is because when I'm off,
Speaker 1: I'm booking this show, because I booked my own shows.
Speaker 2: So anyway, well, you got a full day every day, man,
Speaker 2: But I hear you and listen. Going Blue Bloods was
Speaker 2: a sixty hour week and a lot of time on
Speaker 2: sentence up. But I felt the same way I was
Speaker 2: with everybody. I had a great time and I'll see
Speaker 2: you all Monday.
Speaker 1: Were Jamie and Eddie all was supposed to be a couple.
Speaker 1: From the very inception of putting them together as partners.
Speaker 1: Did that enter the minds of people immediately and they
Speaker 1: just waited for the characters to develop, and finally, you know,
Speaker 1: here they are. They're married.
Speaker 2: And it's a great question, but it was kind of
Speaker 2: the opposite. We never it's kind of a frowned upon,
Speaker 2: shall we say, for partner, you know, ride along partners
Speaker 2: in a radio car to become personally involved. It was
Speaker 2: the chemistry between those two actors Vanessa Ray and will
Speaker 2: Esti's and when watched it grow over the seasons and
Speaker 2: thought we'd be leaving so much gold on the table
Speaker 2: if we don't take this down that run. So it
Speaker 2: was a very it was a fun and satisfying part
Speaker 2: of the arc of the show.
Speaker 1: You can say this about a lot of television crime
Speaker 1: dramas or police dramas, But we had a Fraternal Order
Speaker 1: Police president.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I asked him one time, I said, what do you
Speaker 1: think of blue Bloods? And he said, I like blue Bloods,
Speaker 1: Only Danny shoots too many people. He said, like, because
Speaker 1: most cops, you know, they'll tend ninety percent of police
Speaker 1: officers never draw their weapon in like a thirty year career.
Speaker 1: I've talked to cop after cop about this, and I
Speaker 1: guess just for the sake of keeping the viewer riveted
Speaker 1: to this and there's danger around every corner, and Danny,
Speaker 1: Danny likes to he likes to pull out his weapon
Speaker 1: and use it, and it's fun for me to watch.
Speaker 2: You're one hundred right on that factoid. It is it's
Speaker 2: an even higher percentage that never once draw their weapons
Speaker 2: in their entire career. The thing about television or movies
Speaker 2: is it's just not quite as compelling to watch a
Speaker 2: cop not draw his weapon. So we aired on that
Speaker 2: side of making it hopefully compelling and you know, tense
Speaker 2: entertainment rather than a documentary. That way.
Speaker 1: The character of Henry Reagan, played by Lenn Carew just
Speaker 1: an incredible actor, and the fact that he was able
Speaker 1: to sustain at his age, the ability were there special
Speaker 1: things they had to do for Lenn, just because I'm
Speaker 1: getting up an age and I noticed that as the
Speaker 1: show progressed too, there were more and more scenes with
Speaker 1: Tom sitting down and not being real active walking in anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of concessions do you have to
Speaker 1: make for older actors when you're writing and and blocking
Speaker 1: a scene and all of that.
Speaker 2: Well, really, for I'll answer the first part first, lend
Speaker 2: zero concessions. He is to this day a very spry
Speaker 2: guy who many times during our run was moonlighting at
Speaker 2: night doing a one or two man show off Broadway.
Speaker 2: So he's an indomitable kind of force of nature and
Speaker 2: a national treasure and certainly a treasure in the New
Speaker 2: York theater for Tom. Listen, it's a long day. You're
Speaker 2: moving locations, you're moving around you're walking a lot, and
Speaker 2: by the nature of the police commissioner in real life,
Speaker 2: he is not running down alleys with a gun out,
Speaker 2: He is not chasing bad guys. He is a CEO
Speaker 2: of thirty five thousand cops and most of the time
Speaker 2: and you see a CEO's either standing before some microphones
Speaker 2: or sitting for some form of a CNBC interview. So
Speaker 2: that was just we were just stating we didn't make
Speaker 2: concessions for either of them. Both. I think lenn Is
Speaker 2: eighty four, eighty five. Tom just turned eighty a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. So these guys are in phenomenal shape
Speaker 2: and phenomenal professionals, don't. You don't need to do anything
Speaker 2: for them. They just bring it.
Speaker 1: Kevin, you mentioned earlier six and a half days a week,
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week, and people don't get that. You know,
Speaker 1: we see it in its edited forms. There's an hour
Speaker 1: of network television, probably forty four minutes without commercials, and
Speaker 1: we think that, you know, they're cutting this, and it's
Speaker 1: just you know, it's it's it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: no problem. But it's a really a lot, really a
Speaker 1: lot of hard work goes into a television production like it.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of hard work. As David Linderman used
Speaker 2: to say, though it's indoor work with no heavy lifting,
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's a great job, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's hard work, long hours, and part of the hard
Speaker 2: work is making sure that the audience just sees the
Speaker 2: entertainment and not the sausages being made behind the scene.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the book is Johnny Careless, the author is Kevin Wade.
Speaker 1: It has been my extreme pleasure to have this opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk about one of my favorite television shows of
Speaker 1: all time, which you were a huge part of from
Speaker 1: the beginning, and I just wish you great success with
Speaker 1: Johnny Careless.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, man, it's been great to be
Speaker 2: with your great talking to you all right.
Speaker 1: Same here it's Kevin Wade on the Nightcap on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW is still a whole lot more ahead after
Speaker 1: this if we're an international flair tonight on the show,
Speaker 1: because this guest is from the National Council of Resistance
Speaker 1: of Iran. As we all know, Iran has been at
Speaker 1: the center of state sponsored terrorism in the Middle East
Speaker 1: and around the globe four decades. Ever since the Molas
Speaker 1: and the Iatolas took control of that country in the
Speaker 1: coup of nineteen seventy nine and took over our American
Speaker 1: embassy and imprisoned American citizens as hostages for four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four days before being released at the inauguration
Speaker 1: basically of President Ronald Reagan in the early nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1: But Iran never went away as a threat not only
Speaker 1: to the world but to its own people. To address
Speaker 1: that for the next few minutes tonight, Alisa Jeffizada, who
Speaker 1: is with the National Council of Resistance of Iran, and
Speaker 1: there are changes of foot and maybe Al Risa will
Speaker 1: be able to help us fill in the blanks here
Speaker 1: what those changes have been, even recently within the last
Speaker 1: week or so, with protests in other countries like Paris,
Speaker 1: where there are a lot of Iranian refugees that have
Speaker 1: fled down regime and other people who have been severely
Speaker 1: influenced negatively by the actions of the Iranian government. Alarisa Jeffersarda,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Nightcap. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much a great introduction. I think you
Speaker 3: put things into contexts. Let me start with the last
Speaker 3: part that you said that there was a huge rally
Speaker 3: of thousands, perhaps as many as twenty thousand Iranians, mostly
Speaker 3: in Paris, who actually showed up on the anniversary of
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventy nine genuine revolution that was stolen by
Speaker 3: the clerics and the protesters in Paris. They demanded another revolution,
Speaker 3: which would this time get rid of the clerics who
Speaker 3: stole the first solution. And they said rejecting the dictatorship
Speaker 3: of the shot, rejecting which was the single party rule
Speaker 3: and had.
Speaker 5: The secret police Sabak that went put intellectuals in jail
Speaker 5: and killed them, but also rejecting the current theocracy that
Speaker 5: is not only repressive against its own people, but it's
Speaker 5: actually the head of.
Speaker 3: The snake of war and terror in the whole region.
Speaker 3: And they have been like that for over four decades.
Speaker 3: And they said the future of Iran belongs to the
Speaker 3: people of Iran. Who want a free Iran, a democratic von,
Speaker 3: a republic form of government where the vote of the
Speaker 3: people counts. They want separation of religion and state. Whatever
Speaker 3: your religion is that has to be separate from governance.
Speaker 3: They want freedom of religion, gender equality. They enter the
Speaker 3: killings in Iran. They want peace in the Middle East,
Speaker 3: the free market economy, and and non nuclear republic Iran.
Speaker 3: And that rally highlighted the leadership of the movement for
Speaker 3: this change that is actually headed by a woman, missus
Speaker 3: Madiam Rajavi. She's a Muslim leader who is viminely opposed
Speaker 3: to the Islamic fundamentalist mentality of the Molas that has
Speaker 3: turned everything in the wrong direction. And she has introduced
Speaker 3: a ten point plan based on some of the points
Speaker 3: that I just mentioned that has gained a tremendous support
Speaker 3: in Europe, about four thousand parliamentarians from various countries in Europe,
Speaker 3: but also the majority of the House and the Senate
Speaker 3: here in the United States. That's the kind of future
Speaker 3: that we like to see, and that's the kind of
Speaker 3: future that would impact in a positive way the whole region,
Speaker 3: but also Western nations, whether it's Europe or the United States.
Speaker 1: Ally, Resa, can you tell me a little bit about yourself,
Speaker 1: your background, your family, and your connection to all of
Speaker 1: this go back?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, you know, I was born and raised in Iran,
Speaker 3: and I went to college there, but then I came
Speaker 3: to the United States to continue my education, to get
Speaker 3: my you know, bachelors and the Masters and all of that,
Speaker 3: majoring in engineering. But soon after I found out that
Speaker 3: just about all of my close friends, including my best
Speaker 3: best friend in high school and other colleagues that I
Speaker 3: knew at college, they were murdered by the Iran regime.
Speaker 3: One one close friend that we just you know, walked
Speaker 3: together to school, sat next to each other in high
Speaker 3: school all the time. His name was Addi Ali Kafuri.
Speaker 3: He was killed by the regime along with his wife,
Speaker 3: who was pregnant at the time of murder execution, and
Speaker 3: their one year old dog. There all four of them actually,
Speaker 3: one onborn baby, one little one year old old baby,
Speaker 3: and the you know, he and his wife. And that
Speaker 3: really impacted me because he was the best person I do.
Speaker 3: I knew how committed he was to freedom, and that
Speaker 3: changed my life in thinking, like, you know, nothing is
Speaker 3: going to really go in the right direction unless we
Speaker 3: get rid of the iatolas. And that got me involved
Speaker 3: in the political activities here, trying to raise awareness and
Speaker 3: focusing on not only the situation inside the country, but
Speaker 3: also the terrorism pursued by the regime their nuclear weapons program.
Speaker 3: And you know, I was involved in exposing you know,
Speaker 3: major nuclear sites of Iran that it was our revelation
Speaker 3: in August of two thousand and two about the major
Speaker 3: nuclear side that no one knew about it that got
Speaker 3: the fur for the first time the UN Nuclear watchdog
Speaker 3: known as the IAEA to start inspecting the Iranian nuclear sites.
Speaker 3: That led to eventually to six UNS Security Council resolutions
Speaker 3: against the regime. And so that's really my story. My
Speaker 3: story is really very small and compared to all of
Speaker 3: the people who really have been in the forefront of
Speaker 3: the opposition to dietology. You know, as many as thirty
Speaker 3: thousand political prisoners, most of them belonging to this movement,
Speaker 3: just in the summer of nineteen eighty eight were massacred
Speaker 3: by the then Supreme Leader Romani, who ordered them all
Speaker 3: killed because their way of thinking, their ideology, their mentality
Speaker 3: was exactly the opposite of the Islamic extremists. They believed
Speaker 3: in democracy and freedom. And as many as one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty thousand who have been killed since eighty one,
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one for their political briefs. So but the
Speaker 3: good thing, the good news is that the general public
Speaker 3: in Iran, especially the younger generation, have totally rejected this regime.
Speaker 3: In its entirety. There have been nine rounds of major
Speaker 3: uprisings in Iran since twenty eighteen, people asking and demanding
Speaker 3: for change in Iran, and that's definitely going to happen
Speaker 3: because no dictator has ever been able to stay there
Speaker 3: and the same power by just killing people or terrorizing
Speaker 3: the region. And now is the opportunity and the time
Speaker 3: for the United States, for Europe and other nations to
Speaker 3: stand on the side of people inside the Brandon people
Speaker 3: as they bring about change.
Speaker 1: Alarisa jeffer Zada and I'm still working on the name.
Speaker 1: I will get it right by the end of the interview.
Speaker 1: Alersa Alarsa, I promise. But it was so wild to
Speaker 1: see the pro Hamas demonstrations in our country at the
Speaker 1: college campus level. And then there were all these other
Speaker 1: groups who were out during these pro Hamas protests, which
Speaker 1: course Hamas funded by Iran. We know this as well
Speaker 1: as Hezbollah and the Huti rebels and all the rest
Speaker 1: of the trouble causers and the death merchants in the
Speaker 1: Middle East. The money flows from Iran for the most part.
Speaker 1: To see gays for Hamas, what would happen to an
Speaker 1: outwardly gay person in your home country of Iran, Alarisa.
Speaker 3: Well to understand what would happen to you know, some
Speaker 3: minorities or people who are not deemed appropriate by the
Speaker 3: Iran regime. Just look at the people who are straight,
Speaker 3: look at the people who actually must them. They don't have,
Speaker 3: you know, just because of their political beliefs, just because
Speaker 3: they are opposed to the Iran regime. They get murdered
Speaker 3: and executed every day. So you know, this is a
Speaker 3: regime that doesn't represent the people of Iran, doesn't represent
Speaker 3: you know, any any items under the You and Human
Speaker 3: Rights Charter, none of that. And it needs to uh
Speaker 3: to be to be overthrown by the by the people
Speaker 3: of Iran. And so for for that purpose, remember I mentioned,
Speaker 3: you know, the head of the snake of war and
Speaker 3: terror lives in Tehran. And it's not a new phenomena.
Speaker 3: The Iran a regime whoe has been a creator and
Speaker 3: funder and trainer of Hezbollah and and all the money
Speaker 3: and resources for them in Lebanon came from Tehran. Hassan Nasla,
Speaker 3: who is now dead, was the head of the HESBO Law.
Speaker 3: He said that everything we have, all the money and
Speaker 3: resources we have comes from Tehran. The same situation with
Speaker 3: the Huti if you just mentioned that who were targeting
Speaker 3: the shipping in the Red Sea. Uh, they they were
Speaker 3: all basically nurtured by the run regime. Look at the
Speaker 3: the SAD militias, how they were dominating their Iraq and
Speaker 3: the regime was doing all of those things not out
Speaker 3: of the point of strength. It was an actual act
Speaker 3: of desperation. They felt that unless they have these proxies,
Speaker 3: who would do the fighting for them or creating what
Speaker 3: they call strategic depths, meaning like pushing the problem to
Speaker 3: the region. So they have they give, they give money
Speaker 3: and resources for the their proxies to do the fighting
Speaker 3: on their behalf so they can stay safe in Iran.
Speaker 3: The reality is that all of that game is now over.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The regime's clouds in the region has been significantly diminished.
Speaker 3: They've lost, you know, much of their proxya power.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 3: Their their closest ally in the region, Bachelor Asset in Syria,
Speaker 3: which Tehrans spent at least fifty billion dollars if not
Speaker 3: more to keeping in power over the years, and by
Speaker 3: you know, by allocating about one hundred thousand of their
Speaker 3: proxy forces, including Hesba law to keep outside in power.
Speaker 3: In a matter of eleven days late last year, it
Speaker 3: was all gone and Basalt Basha acid is overthrown, so
Speaker 3: that cloud is gone. Inside Iran, the people are rejecting it.
Speaker 3: This organized resistance known that that they have what they
Speaker 3: call resistance units inside Iran that are mostly young people
Speaker 3: who are you know, who are courageous confronting the revolutionary
Speaker 3: guards in different sectors and burning the pictures of Hamony
Speaker 3: and Gostom so let Money and those terror masters, showing
Speaker 3: the Unian people that this regime is not ten feet tall.
Speaker 3: They have their own vulnerabilities and their weaknesses, that they
Speaker 3: only stay in power through sheer repression. All of that
Speaker 3: has created the situation that, you know, this regime has
Speaker 3: never been so weak, This regime has never been so vulnerable.
Speaker 3: And that's why when the United States and Europe and
Speaker 3: others tried to hold the regime accountable instead of rewarding
Speaker 3: them for their hostage taking, when you hold them accountable,
Speaker 3: you impose sanctions, You put maximum pressure policy in place
Speaker 3: that would significant release, shake the regime, create space for
Speaker 3: the organized opposition to do the job of overthrowing the regime,
Speaker 3: which is the sole responsibility of the people of Iran.
Speaker 3: There's no need for boots on the ground or appropriating money.
Speaker 3: The people of Iran will take care of it. They
Speaker 3: were confronted ilusion guards and that's where we need to
Speaker 3: really put the focus and inform the public about it well.
Speaker 1: Putting this maximum pressure on the government of Iran. And
Speaker 1: as you know Alarsa, President Trump just reinstated maximum pressure
Speaker 1: as far as sanctions on Iranian oil that was allowed
Speaker 1: to go on for four years under the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: which and you saw what that wrought. Iran had money,
Speaker 1: the government had money coming back in to fund the
Speaker 1: Mullas and Iatolas and their terrorism, and now that money
Speaker 1: has cut off. They were almost broke when Biden took office,
Speaker 1: and they were enabled to enrich themselves so they could
Speaker 1: continue this death and destruction throughout the region to solidify
Speaker 1: their power. What do you think the percentages are within
Speaker 1: Iran of people who go along with the Mullas and
Speaker 1: the Islamic jihad islamis terrorism and the rest of the citizenry.
Speaker 1: Is it like a ten ninety split or how is
Speaker 1: that split? You say there's growing resistance, how big is it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the percentage. In my view, I did
Speaker 3: a lot of indications out of even smaller than that.
Speaker 3: You only have. You know, Iran is a big country.
Speaker 3: We have now close to ninety million population, tremendous resources
Speaker 3: and everything. But it's really the regime is now limited
Speaker 3: only to.
Speaker 7: Its repressive forces and revolution guards and the besiege forces,
Speaker 7: the military that they have created and the band of
Speaker 7: clerics who rule the country and are backed by those
Speaker 7: revlution guards.
Speaker 3: Uh, that's not a large portion. But of course they
Speaker 3: had the control of the country. They have the the
Speaker 3: you know, the guns and everything, like all the dictators
Speaker 3: in the weapon exactly, and like all the dictators, you
Speaker 3: know that they seem invincible until the day they fall.
Speaker 3: And that's you know, look at Celia Basha Assad who
Speaker 3: thought in eleven days the whole thing is going to collapse.
Speaker 3: And Assad's army wasn't just like a pin prick. You
Speaker 3: know that they they had perhaps one of the most
Speaker 3: powerful army in the hot world, and yet it could
Speaker 3: it couldn't sustain when you have the waves going against you,
Speaker 3: the tsunami of the population, but also the whole thing
Speaker 3: that's been generated in the region against the Islamic extremists
Speaker 3: against the Iranan regime that would have its own impact.
Speaker 1: That's why the.
Speaker 3: Regime is in it's backfoot the revlution guards. No matter
Speaker 3: you know, how much money and resources and gun they have,
Speaker 3: they will not be able to sustain themselves as they
Speaker 3: the way they were doing before. The regime is relying
Speaker 3: heavily on developing nuclear weapons, hoping that by getting the bomb,
Speaker 3: the nuclear bomb, that would help them you know, dominate,
Speaker 3: but also most important, they help them stay in power.
Speaker 3: They're they're just you know, speeding up the process. That's
Speaker 3: why we had a lot of efforts and disregards in
Speaker 3: the past, but just this past month and January thirty first,
Speaker 3: actually we had a major press conference in washing and
Speaker 3: showing how the regime is actually speeding up developing nuclear warheads.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: So that's why it's so important that the outside world,
Speaker 3: whether it's the United States or Europe, understand that not
Speaker 3: only this regime must be held accountable, but the prospect
Speaker 3: for change has never been so great that there is
Speaker 3: tremendous potential for change, and there is an alternative contrary
Speaker 3: to what the regime wants to say. Oh, there's no alternative,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm in power. I'm in charge. Look, I've
Speaker 3: been in charge for the forty plus years. Nothing can
Speaker 3: shape me. Well, that's not the reality. The reality is
Speaker 3: that this regime is shaking. The people have been protesting
Speaker 3: against the regime. The organized this isn't so powerful. They
Speaker 3: just have this speak rally as I mentioned, and in Paris,
Speaker 3: you know, thousands of people showed up calling for change,
Speaker 3: urging the European capitals, urging the United States everywhere to
Speaker 3: stand firm against the regime. Don't give in, don't give
Speaker 3: the concessions to the Iran regime. That policy of appeasement
Speaker 3: over the years has been very destructive, not just against
Speaker 3: the people of Iran, but for the whole region because
Speaker 3: it actually enabled the regime to stay in power. That
Speaker 3: needs to end.
Speaker 1: Now, tell me about the organization real quickly and how
Speaker 1: people can find out more about the nc R.
Speaker 3: I yes, you know. The NCR is actually a coalition
Speaker 3: of various groups of personalities that was formed in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty one that it actually acts as the parliament in exile.
Speaker 3: It has some of the member organizations have network inside Iran.
Speaker 3: That's the same network that acts as the engine for
Speaker 3: change in Iran, that they're organizing protests that are exposing
Speaker 3: the nuclear size of Iran and their terror operations have
Speaker 3: gained tremendous momentum. And this parliament in exile has a
Speaker 3: ten point platform for the future of Iran. Now you
Speaker 3: can you know, we are the office of that parliament
Speaker 3: and XR here in Washington. People can visit our website
Speaker 3: or look at our social media tools and find ways
Speaker 3: to to help. Our website is U n c R
Speaker 3: I U S dot org and c r US dot
Speaker 3: org and all of our social media platforms have the
Speaker 3: handle including Twitter or x at n c R I
Speaker 3: U S. You can follow us, you can get update
Speaker 3: about that, and then when we have activities, they can
Speaker 3: you know, help participate. They can also reach out to
Speaker 3: their members of Congress asking members of Congress to support
Speaker 3: you know this, this movement to support the ten point
Speaker 3: plan of missus Rajavi support changing all.
Speaker 1: Right, ala Resa, thank you so much and uh I
Speaker 1: like your positive attitude. There is hope for Iran and
Speaker 1: for the world because of this movement, and thank you
Speaker 1: again for being on the show tonight. For us is
Speaker 1: the Gaza strip and President Trump, of course saying the
Speaker 1: Palestinians should leave Gaza and permanently. Oh, he wants them
Speaker 1: to actually be out permanently. But in other conversations he said, well,
Speaker 1: Palestinians could live there, Jews could live there, anybody could
Speaker 1: live there, and the US will take over the strip.
Speaker 1: Another big broad brush stroke by President Trump. He's famous
Speaker 1: for him. And again to discuss this for a few minutes,
Speaker 1: kenneth O. Bromo, which author of the Multi Front War
Speaker 1: Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife.
Speaker 1: Oh my, Ken, do you think this is a viable
Speaker 1: plan that Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: Has Well, I think he just threw this. It's like
Speaker 6: a hand grenade in the Middle Age. I think he
Speaker 6: just threw this out and I didn't do all the
Speaker 6: thinking behind it, because this hadn't been a known idea
Speaker 6: that was in the think tank circles and in the
Speaker 6: political circles.
Speaker 2: I think it's very bold.
Speaker 6: And creative on his part, and I think he's obviously
Speaker 6: trying to induce change. And they're basically saying, if you
Speaker 6: various parties can't get your act together, I'll get your
Speaker 6: act together for you.
Speaker 1: Right, And he's asked Egypt and Jordan, who have since
Speaker 1: rejected this call to let the Palestinians into their country
Speaker 1: while the Gaza is being rebuilt and you're got to
Speaker 1: clear away all the explosives. I mean, it's just a
Speaker 1: big pile of rubble now thanks to Hamas and their
Speaker 1: attack on Israel on October seventh, do you believe just
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to know hindsight's twenty twenty, but
Speaker 1: do you believe truly that this attack by Hamas into
Speaker 1: Israel would not have occurred if President Trump had been
Speaker 1: in office on October seventh of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: Yes, I would agree with them that wouldn't have happened
Speaker 6: because the bad guys were I would say.
Speaker 9: Half afraid of Trump.
Speaker 6: They were not afraid of Biden at all. But Trump
Speaker 6: is very unpredictable, and although Americans might criticize them for
Speaker 6: being unpredictable, being unpredictable actually is an asset relative to
Speaker 6: your enemies, because your enemy is never sure what he's
Speaker 6: going to do to you. And so I agree it
Speaker 6: wouldn't have happened. But under Biden it was clear sailing
Speaker 6: ahead for the enemies, and so Amas works for Iran
Speaker 6: and they saw a golden opportunity to create chaos.
Speaker 1: What's ironic about it? What's ironic to me about Egypt
Speaker 1: and Jordan rejecting these people. That's exactly where the quote
Speaker 1: unquote and I'm doing air quotes here Palestinians on the
Speaker 1: Gaza came from. They were refugees from those countries who
Speaker 1: did not want them in their country. They still do
Speaker 1: not want them in their country because they I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say they're an evil people by any means. They're human beings,
Speaker 1: but they make really really bad decisions for leadership, and
Speaker 1: they don't want that Islamist kind of lilt fomenting in
Speaker 1: their own countries. That's a genuine concern, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, the.
Speaker 6: So called Palestinians create problems wherever they are. But by
Speaker 6: the way, if you go back one hundred years ago,
Speaker 6: the so called Palestinians were actually Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrian and Jordanians, yeah,
Speaker 6: who moved into what we was called Palestine at the
Speaker 6: time we now call Israel.
Speaker 2: And because there.
Speaker 6: Were jobs, as the Jews moved back one hundred hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty years ago, that there were jobs, and so
Speaker 6: the Arabs moved in, so there was no such thing
Speaker 6: as Palestinians, and to the extent they were Palestinians, there
Speaker 6: was the Jews. Then in nineteen forty eight everyone stopped
Speaker 6: using the term Palestinian and.
Speaker 2: Used the term Asraeli.
Speaker 6: And in nineteen sixty four Russia with their KGB invented
Speaker 6: the word or reinvented the word Palestinian and applied it
Speaker 6: to the Arabs to create the illusion that they'd been
Speaker 6: there forever.
Speaker 1: There's no Palestinian language or culture. Necessarily, they're just Arab
Speaker 1: people who were called Palestinians, which was a name that
Speaker 1: Rome initially coined just to rub it in the eye
Speaker 1: of the Jews and anyone else in that region, because
Speaker 1: Palestine sounded a lot like the Philistines, which were natural
Speaker 1: enemies of the Jewish people. Am I good on that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 6: From the Roman point of view, it was a derogatory
Speaker 6: way of saying that Israel didn't exist, or the Jews
Speaker 6: didn't exist, and they were Palestine. And then it became
Speaker 6: a good name. In the last when the Jews started returning,
Speaker 6: they were called themselves Palestinians, and then it became a
Speaker 6: good name, so to speak. From eighteen fifty to nineteen
Speaker 6: forty eight, and after that one hundred year period when
Speaker 6: Israel was formed, then everyone changed the names of Palestine
Speaker 6: or Palestinians, and everyone said, well, now I'm in Israeli
Speaker 6: and everyone forgot about the term Palestinian until the KGB
Speaker 6: very smart medivil a group of people who resurrected the
Speaker 6: word Palestine and then applied it to the Arabs. And
Speaker 6: it was a basically identity theft, and that continues to
Speaker 6: the day.
Speaker 1: If you had a guest, Ken, if the president continues
Speaker 1: to persist that this is a viable idea, if you
Speaker 1: had a guess, who do you think if anyone in
Speaker 1: the Middle East will step forward and assist with this
Speaker 1: rebuild of Gaza? Most likely.
Speaker 6: There's a two step process. First, there's a military issue.
Speaker 6: Who's going to clean out Gaza? Who's going to clean
Speaker 6: out Kamas? Well, there's only one country in the world
Speaker 6: capable of doing that and willing to do that, and
Speaker 6: that's Israel.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, hello, Ken, Well are you there? Ken? Ken? Hello?
Speaker 1: I think I think we've lost Ken.
Speaker 2: Ken.
Speaker 1: Are you there? I hear the noise? Hello, Ken, I'm here?
Speaker 1: Are you there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue then Israeli is the only one, the
Speaker 1: only country that has the resolve and the resources to
Speaker 1: root out Hamas of Gaza and finish, and they've got
Speaker 1: to be allowed to finish their job. And the previous
Speaker 1: administration wasn't helpful in Israel finishing this job. And I
Speaker 1: think that President Trump obviously is going to be very helpful.
Speaker 1: You saw the visit with Nettan Yahoo last week, and
Speaker 1: net and Yaoho really didn't blink when the President talked
Speaker 1: about the US buying and taking over the Gaza strip.
Speaker 1: He just sat there and listened, like the rest of us.
Speaker 6: Pleasantly surprised with this bold, creative idea. But it's sort
Speaker 6: of unwritten but implied is that Israel will get all
Speaker 6: the hostages that it can get until the negotiations break down,
Speaker 6: and those can break down any day because you're dealing
Speaker 6: with a criminal, terrible criminal. I call death celts comans
Speaker 6: death CLT, so you never know, but you get back
Speaker 6: as many hostages as humanly possible, and then sending the
Speaker 6: IDF soldiers to eliminate all the Kamas people walk, stock
Speaker 6: and barrel. They have to be eliminated, their death culped
Speaker 6: they are menaced They're menaced everybody, including, by the way,
Speaker 6: the Arabs who live in Gaza. The number one victim
Speaker 6: of Kamas is actually the Arabs who live in Gaza.
Speaker 1: Well, Donald Trump was successful in eliminating the ISIS caliphate
Speaker 1: in Syria and Iraq. Uh, So what what role will
Speaker 1: we play as Israel finishes the job there?
Speaker 6: Well, America supplies Israel with about two thirds of its weapons,
Speaker 6: so I would say thinking of it as the joint venture.
Speaker 6: America supplies the weapons in Israel. You the weapons, right,
Speaker 6: and drives out the bad guys uh, and has to
Speaker 6: drive them into unconditional surrender. The lesson we learned from
Speaker 6: World War Two is bad guys stop being bad guys
Speaker 6: after they unconditionally surrender.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard other people suggest that, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: there's no way to finish it. But what about a
Speaker 1: new generation that is seeing this in the Gaza and
Speaker 1: becomes radicalized after there's an unconditional surrender.
Speaker 2: Well, look what we.
Speaker 6: Did things in history, but look what we did in
Speaker 6: World War two a conditional surrender. We also took over
Speaker 6: their schools for about ten years and re educated the population.
Speaker 6: No one wants to think about that. Things like that anymore.
Speaker 6: But that's what we did, and that's what we would
Speaker 6: have to do this time too.
Speaker 1: I would think so well. Kenneth Abramowitz, thank you very
Speaker 1: much for your time today, and hopefully we'll we'll find
Speaker 1: a better phone line next time.
Speaker 3: But it's OK.
Speaker 1: It's been great to have you though. Thanks again.
Speaker 6: Yes, and everyone should listen to my website or watch
Speaker 6: my website Savethwest dot com if they want more information.
Speaker 1: Save the West dot com. Kenneth Abramowitz, thank you again, sir,
Speaker 1: have a wonderful ill you bet. It's the nightcap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW my ministries out in Washington State, which
Speaker 1: Washington State has been making news not good news, with
Speaker 1: trying to restrict parents from knowing what their kids are
Speaker 1: doing at school. That's a subject for an entirely different discussion.
Speaker 1: But tonight Pastor Bilts and I are talking about how
Speaker 1: this this hostage swap, or the release of the hostages
Speaker 1: in Gaza and the release of all of these criminal
Speaker 1: prisoners that Israel has been holding is just inviting another
Speaker 1: October seventh. Israel once released the mastermind of those attacks
Speaker 1: in their so called peace deal, and Pastor Bilts doesn't
Speaker 1: say this doesn't see that this looks like a peace fee,
Speaker 1: a peace deal, or a cease fire. It looks like
Speaker 1: more trouble ahead for Israel and the rest of the
Speaker 1: Middle East. So Pastor Bilts, welcome to the show, and
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. God bless you well, bless you.
Speaker 10: Thank you so much Gary for having me on.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: Pastor Bilts, if you are not familiar with him, or
Speaker 1: have not listened to the program for a while, correctly
Speaker 1: predicted there would be some terror attacks here in US
Speaker 1: soil before President Trump's inauguration. He made that prediction just
Speaker 1: days before the apparently homegrown radicalized terrorists from Texas drove
Speaker 1: his car through Bourbon Street, killing fourteen and injuring scores
Speaker 1: of others. And I was just astounded when I heard
Speaker 1: the report, woke up that morning and heard what had
Speaker 1: happened in the French Quarter, New Orleans the night before,
Speaker 1: like three o'clock in the morning. I've just my mouth
Speaker 1: dropped open because Mark and I had just had this
Speaker 1: discussion about these little many terror attacks that were going
Speaker 1: to be occurring, predicted through through you know, biblical prophecy,
Speaker 1: and then we had the Tesla fire in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: where the guy blew himself in the car up to
Speaker 1: make some kind of a demonstration. But I talked to
Speaker 1: Mark immediately after that, you may remember, and he said, well,
Speaker 1: there's plenty more happening and plenty more to come. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about plenty more to come now, Mark, if
Speaker 1: you don't mind, what what do you know from the
Speaker 1: signs in the sky and what the scriptures say?
Speaker 11: Well, I can tell you from the signs of the
Speaker 11: sky what the scriptures say. When you get on God's timeline,
Speaker 11: there's something that is so prophetically huge that's going to
Speaker 11: happen on June second. Everyone needs to mark their calendar
Speaker 11: June second through fourth, because that is when the United
Speaker 11: Nations is meeting to promote.
Speaker 10: A two state solution.
Speaker 11: You could go to the United Nations website and it
Speaker 11: talks about the peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine,
Speaker 11: and so the whole thing is about one thing for all,
Speaker 11: bringing peace in the Middle East. What's important about that day,
Speaker 11: and this is why you can understand the times.
Speaker 10: When you're on the biblical calendar.
Speaker 11: It is Savon six on the biblical calendar, Savan six
Speaker 11: was Pentecost.
Speaker 10: Most people don't know that.
Speaker 11: Jews kept Pentecost back when Moses climbed Mount Sinai and
Speaker 11: received the commandments and the promise for the Promised Land.
Speaker 3: It is on that very day that God married.
Speaker 10: Or went into covenant with Israel.
Speaker 11: And that's the day the UNNA is going to say
Speaker 11: Israel has no part. And so whether you like or
Speaker 11: don't like Trump, everything is going to come down to
Speaker 11: that day. I know a lot of his cabinet, they
Speaker 11: all opposed the two state solution. Prophetically, this is going
Speaker 11: to be the biggest event in prophetic history.
Speaker 10: Is what happens to you N this June second.
Speaker 1: Well, the u N, it's one of those organizations that
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, well u N is a right term
Speaker 1: because they are unnecessary and they are unhelpful.
Speaker 10: In all of the United United Nothing.
Speaker 1: United Nothing. Yeah, very very good. And you know it's
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of globalists who you know, are smack
Speaker 1: dab in the face of what God wants for his people.
Speaker 1: I believe is this global monopoly on power on people
Speaker 1: on the world. You know, this is this obviously sets
Speaker 1: up some kind of end time scenario according to biblical prophecy.
Speaker 1: Whether you're going by revelation or even even before in
Speaker 1: the book, and I mean, Donald Trump is talking about
Speaker 1: the US taking over the Gaza Strip, And I asked
Speaker 1: Kennethan Bromowitz about that, Pastor Bilts, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the possibility of the United States being in charge
Speaker 1: of taking control of that strip of land and helping
Speaker 1: Israel rebuild it for Israel.
Speaker 11: It all comes down to semantics and what I mean
Speaker 11: by that. If Trump wants to own it, like he
Speaker 11: wants to own Greenland or own Canada, it's not a
Speaker 11: good thing. But if we're going to administer it, it's
Speaker 11: a great thing. I think they're nothing better than to
Speaker 11: have the United States manage it under Israeli sovereignty.
Speaker 2: That's the key.
Speaker 11: It has to be under Israeli sovereignty. It can't be
Speaker 11: a two state solution that's the United States.
Speaker 10: And Israel versus Hamas in Israel.
Speaker 11: If it's that kind of situation, it's a bad deal prophetically.
Speaker 11: So that's why I'm interested to see how this folds.
Speaker 9: But I think that.
Speaker 10: The biggest problem that the UN is going to happen
Speaker 10: at this meeting.
Speaker 11: You can't make peace with someone who wants to kill you.
Speaker 2: It is so stupid.
Speaker 3: This is not a.
Speaker 11: Laand issue, it's a religious issue, and so the State
Speaker 11: Department is just clueless. But I'm glad Trump is also
Speaker 11: exposing all of the fraud and everything else going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no question with USAID and these other agencies
Speaker 1: that are not working on behalf of the American people,
Speaker 1: they're only lining someone else's pockets. I describe about ninety
Speaker 1: percent of foreign aid as nothing but money laundering, because
Speaker 1: I truly believe that's what that is. If you look
Speaker 1: at some of the expenses that have been doled out
Speaker 1: in the past, and hopefully there's a some way there's
Speaker 1: a stop to that, either legislatively or through the President's
Speaker 1: executive branch. But Pastor Bilts, what about these swaps ups
Speaker 1: that Israel is making with Hamas, with the Palestinian prisoners
Speaker 1: that are being let out. There are murderers, they are terrorists,
Speaker 1: mass murderers. Yeah yeah, tell me why this sets Israel
Speaker 1: up for another October seventh. It seems pretty obvious, But
Speaker 1: just explain a little bit further if you can.
Speaker 11: Sure because of this, you know, Sea, I definitely wouldn't
Speaker 11: call it a peace plant. But this cease fire, I've
Speaker 11: seen videos where hundreds and hundreds of trucks are now
Speaker 11: entering Gaza with humanitarian aid so called. Many of them
Speaker 11: are fuel trucks that Hamas is going to now have
Speaker 11: fuel to continue rockets and bombs and everything else. But
Speaker 11: what they're doing, they're coming during all the food trucks
Speaker 11: literally shooting any Gaza civilian who tries to get access
Speaker 11: that they controlled the food, they sell it to the
Speaker 11: Gauza citizens. But what's really horrible is they are literally
Speaker 11: telling the families you only get food if your son
Speaker 11: joins TOMAS, and so they're using it as a way
Speaker 11: to manipulate the people. And they've already had like sixteen
Speaker 11: oh no, about twenty thousand more terrorists.
Speaker 3: They lost twenty.
Speaker 10: They just gained twenty through this peace deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a piece deal at all. See you're saying
Speaker 1: that on June second or June second, of June fourth
Speaker 1: is going to be pivotal with how this plays out
Speaker 1: because of the UN's decision. We do have the right
Speaker 1: to revoke that decision, don't we as a country and
Speaker 1: as a voting member of the UN Security Council.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, right right, yeah, we can stop this two
Speaker 11: state solution. Push and prophetically in Zechariah one, Zakariyah is
Speaker 11: shown a vision and it has to do with the red.
Speaker 10: Horse, which means war in revelation. But when he sees
Speaker 10: a vision of these four horns, and Zachariah says, what
Speaker 10: are they?
Speaker 12: And God basically says, these are the four entities who's
Speaker 12: sole purpose is to divide the land of Israel. Well,
Speaker 12: I believe those four entities are the quartets that began
Speaker 12: in two thousand and one with the sole purpose of
Speaker 12: dividing the.
Speaker 10: Land of Israel, and that consists of the UN.
Speaker 3: The EU, the US.
Speaker 10: And Russia.
Speaker 11: And then comes these four craftsmen to cut off the
Speaker 11: four horns, and zachariss, what are these? And he says,
Speaker 11: these are for my minished expirit who is going to
Speaker 11: bring terror.
Speaker 9: To every one of these entities.
Speaker 10: That vote to divide my land.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope, I hope We're not one of those
Speaker 1: those four entities. That's for sure.
Speaker 11: I know, I know, and I'm so thrilled that all
Speaker 11: of Trump's appointees are against the.
Speaker 10: Two state solution.
Speaker 11: We just have to hope and see what happens is
Speaker 11: June second through fourth.
Speaker 1: It is just huge, Yeah, absolutely, well, I hope we'll
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to talk before then and then afterwards
Speaker 1: too and find out found out where we're at on
Speaker 1: the biblical timeline. Pastor Mark Builts Elshadai Ministries, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your time, as always, my friend, thank
Speaker 1: you all right, God bless We continue on the nightcap
Speaker 1: right after this senatorial candidate, former congressman from Ohio and
Speaker 1: a very successful businessman in his own right, Jim Rineesi
Speaker 1: once again on the show Jim Good Evening. We had
Speaker 1: the news today the Jim Trussell, former Ohio state head coach,
Speaker 1: has been named the new lieutenant governor under Mike DeWine.
Speaker 1: And just get your thoughts on that real quickly.
Speaker 8: Gary, Gary, again, thanks for having me on. And it's
Speaker 8: an interesting turn of events. I mean, there have been
Speaker 8: a lot of people as I travel the state that
Speaker 8: have said they'd love to see Jim Trussell be the
Speaker 8: next governor. But I wasn't expecting this, and I'm sure
Speaker 8: a lot of your listeners weren't expecting it either. This
Speaker 8: actually moves him into a position that if he really
Speaker 8: did want to run for governor, he'd kind of be
Speaker 8: in the pole position in the sense of having a
Speaker 8: little on the job training for the next couple of years,
Speaker 8: and at the same time getting to know the donors,
Speaker 8: a donor base and being able to get more acquainted
Speaker 8: with that position in Ohio. So it's an interesting turn
Speaker 8: of events and maybe what people wanted inside that Columbus beltwagh.
Speaker 1: It's a part of me, and I know that the
Speaker 1: ship sailed Jim, but part of me kind of as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, getting to know the donors in the donor base.
Speaker 1: American politics is so all about the money, even though
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris spent twice as much as Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: to no avail. You got to have the money obviously
Speaker 1: to make an impact and to make a successful run.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of sad. It's not the way I
Speaker 1: envisioned or maybe the what the founders had in mind.
Speaker 1: Is there way too much money in our politics in
Speaker 1: this country today.
Speaker 8: Well, I do believe there is. And it's sad because
Speaker 8: good people can't win. And I know they get mad
Speaker 8: when I say this, because they'll say, oh, they'll pick
Speaker 8: one person here or one person there that's been able
Speaker 8: to win with you know, a shock or race, but
Speaker 8: they're few and far between. And let's face it, what
Speaker 8: you really need is name id, money and a message.
Speaker 8: And that's what Kamala Harris didn't have, believe it or not,
Speaker 8: a lot of people didn't know who she was. They
Speaker 8: didn't know what her message was. She had some name id.
Speaker 2: That really hurt her.
Speaker 8: Everybody knows who President Trump is, they know what his
Speaker 8: message was, and he had the money, so it became apparent.
Speaker 8: Those are the kind of things you need to win
Speaker 8: in politics. But it also stops that person who's probably
Speaker 8: in many cases, and I'm talking about President Trump when
Speaker 8: I say this, but in many cases that it's more
Speaker 8: qualified than the person with money, message or name id
Speaker 8: from really getting in and winning.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 1: When the Supreme Court ruled that corporations were people or
Speaker 1: you know that the ruling that said that, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as campaign donations went. What I have a
Speaker 1: hard time with as well, is the money that comes
Speaker 1: in for out of from out of state for a
Speaker 1: state race. There is so much what they call dark
Speaker 1: money that you know, it's like the old fashioned carpet
Speaker 1: bagging we had after the Civil War in this country,
Speaker 1: but we have so much money flooding in from outside
Speaker 1: the sphere of influence where people are actually voting and
Speaker 1: what affects their lives, And I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: any way to address that ultimately.
Speaker 8: Well, and you're exactly right, and in many cases it's
Speaker 8: coming from outside the And look, you can't compete anymore
Speaker 8: in a Senate race unless you get money outside the state.
Speaker 8: It's one of the reasons why we ended up having
Speaker 8: Bernie Marino and Sharon Brown spending a tremendous amount of money,
Speaker 8: all coming from out of state trying to attempt to
Speaker 8: decide who the next Ohio Senator was versus the Ohio
Speaker 8: money really was not enough, And in many cases, the
Speaker 8: Ohio money is not enough to actually win a governor's
Speaker 8: race or a Senate race. You have to have influence
Speaker 8: from the outside because there is so much money coming
Speaker 8: in from the outside, and a lot of that does
Speaker 8: come down to the special interest and the money that's
Speaker 8: now allowed to be spent by corporations and outside interests.
Speaker 1: The question is, why do you need to spend all
Speaker 1: that money on a campaign for a job that's only
Speaker 1: going to net you what one hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year or whatever the total is for a
Speaker 1: state rep or a US Senator. The salary is not
Speaker 1: what makes these people wealthy beyond their current means. Where
Speaker 1: does that money come from?
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it ends up being power.
Speaker 8: It's the power. It's the want for the power. It's
Speaker 8: the want to be able to fly around and go
Speaker 8: to the super Bowl as the US senator. Remember, every
Speaker 8: US Senator, every governor probably could have got an instant
Speaker 8: walk into this super Bowl. I was thinking about that
Speaker 8: last night. I was watching all these political people going
Speaker 8: to the super Bowl, and I think those are the
Speaker 8: kind of things that are important to a lot of
Speaker 8: people that already have money, but they don't have that
Speaker 8: ability to just walk right into many places. And I
Speaker 8: think that's what drives people in many cases to wanting
Speaker 8: these jobs. It's it's not actually to serve. It's about
Speaker 8: the power that it comes with it.
Speaker 13: And by the way, why do you need money. I'll
Speaker 13: tell you an interest.
Speaker 8: When I ran against Sharon Brown in twenty eighteen, he
Speaker 8: put out an advertisement that Jim Ornacy was flying around
Speaker 8: in a corporate jet with a strip club owner, and
Speaker 8: I don't forget that an absolute lie. And I filed
Speaker 8: a case against him and I lost. And what the
Speaker 8: ruling came back was that because I'm a public figure,
Speaker 8: anybody can say anything about me they want to say
Speaker 8: about me. And my response to the judge in that.
Speaker 2: Case was, are you kidding me? So how am I.
Speaker 8: Supposed to defend against the lie? And I never forget
Speaker 8: The answer was, you need to have enough money to
Speaker 8: defend against the lie. And I think that's why money
Speaker 8: becomes a significant issue in politics.
Speaker 1: Well, I remember the claims made against Bernie Marino when
Speaker 1: he was running against Shared Brown, and Marino was successful
Speaker 1: in that race, as you know, for the Senate seat.
Speaker 1: But apparently Marino had enough money to fend off whatever
Speaker 1: was being said about him, whether it was true or not.
Speaker 1: And you noticed that Donald Trump is either winning these
Speaker 1: defamation lawsuitcases against these media outlets or they are settling
Speaker 1: quickly for things that were said that were untrue about
Speaker 1: the president. So I mean, you can battle that these
Speaker 1: things even if you're a public person. Obviously, well of course.
Speaker 8: But here's a response to that, because I remember talking
Speaker 8: to my attorney, you can lie, you just can't lie
Speaker 8: ball And what Donald Trump is doing is he's fighting
Speaker 8: off libel cases, not lies, which is very interesting and
Speaker 8: by the way. When it comes to Bernie, I got
Speaker 8: to give him a lot of credit. He picked the
Speaker 8: right year because he did have a lot of money,
Speaker 8: but he only won by three and a half points,
Speaker 8: and Trump actually won by twelve. So it tells you
Speaker 8: that if you were a candidate that was running in
Speaker 8: a year with Trump and you were a Trump person,
Speaker 8: you were going to be carried by Trump in a
Speaker 8: lot of ways. And I give him credit for that.
Speaker 8: He was successfully able to be able to do that.
Speaker 8: And many people even said that if Trump only one
Speaker 8: by eight, Bernie would have been a little bit of
Speaker 8: trouble because Shared was spending a lot of money as
Speaker 8: well against Bernie Marino.
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But I also, through years
Speaker 1: of just observation, noticed that it's you talked about the
Speaker 1: power that you have as a US senator or an
Speaker 1: entrenched incumbent even in the House, but it is very
Speaker 1: difficult to unseat an incumbent senator. They're one of the
Speaker 1: most one hundred powerful people in our government. And it's
Speaker 1: it's a trick to unseat an incumbent senator, is it not.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you one thing, and I used to
Speaker 8: say this, it's a it's very difficult to unseat unseat
Speaker 8: any incumbany. In fact, ninety seven percent, that's how strong
Speaker 8: that statistics of incumbents, whether it's the governor, whether it's
Speaker 8: a congressional or incumbent, whether it's a senator, ninety seven
Speaker 8: percent win reelections. And they win reelections because they have
Speaker 8: name I D. Money and they have a staff, so
Speaker 8: they can upend anybody trying to run against them. Because remember,
Speaker 8: you can travel around the state, whether you're a senator, governor,
Speaker 8: even a lieutenant governor. And I think that's one of
Speaker 8: the things John houstaid was doing. You can travel around
Speaker 8: the state with a full staff and a full complement
Speaker 8: of people and talk about things where somebody running against
Speaker 8: an incumbent has no staff, has to use their own money,
Speaker 8: and has to travel on the street and build their
Speaker 8: own name ID. So it becomes extremely difficult. But it's
Speaker 8: actually ninety seven percent of incumbents do get reelected.
Speaker 1: Wow, if you will indulge me just for I'm going
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and come back and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk doge Okay, sounds good. Jim Ornacy with
Speaker 1: a son that I can back in just a moment
Speaker 1: about wasteful spending in every facet of our federal government,
Speaker 1: with how that's going and what he thinks of the
Speaker 1: whole plan with Elon Musk and the kid named Big
Speaker 1: Balls in there forensically examinating the budgets of all these things,
Speaker 1: not just USAID, but all levels of federal government. Department
Speaker 1: of Education, Jim Ornacy rejoins US now and Jim, when
Speaker 1: you heard about this, did you think that it was
Speaker 1: going to net any kind of positive results for the
Speaker 1: American taxpayer?
Speaker 6: Number one, Well, here's what I would tell you.
Speaker 8: Past presidents, even President Reagan has said, we are wasting spending.
Speaker 8: We have a lot of spending that needs to be cut.
Speaker 8: Even when I was in Congress for eight years, we
Speaker 8: talked about it, we vetted it, we listed it. The
Speaker 8: problem was without a law for getting a tough and
Speaker 8: without Congress passing a budget or their appropriations bills, it
Speaker 8: was almost impossible. Because you have these agencies. A lot
Speaker 8: of people don't understand these These agencies are independent, so
Speaker 8: they get so much money, and unless the House and
Speaker 8: the Senate passes a budget and passes appropriation bills, it
Speaker 8: says we're only going to give you so much money
Speaker 8: and its only can only be spent for the X,
Speaker 8: Y and Z. They have full authority to spend on
Speaker 8: what they want to do.
Speaker 13: So we knew about it.
Speaker 8: I think President Trump knew about it in seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 8: nineteen and twenty his first term. But he also ran
Speaker 8: into what we all ran into, which is the order
Speaker 8: that was passed many, many years ago, which said that
Speaker 8: it's called the Poundment Control Act, which basically said a
Speaker 8: president could not cut what Congress has authorized. And in
Speaker 8: twenty seventeen, President Trump started down this path and he
Speaker 8: got stopped very quickly by the Government Accounting Office, who
Speaker 8: said it violated the law. Now he didn't take it further.
Speaker 8: But I think one thing this president did, and I
Speaker 8: applaud him for it, is he said, you know what,
Speaker 8: if I get back in I'm not going to care.
Speaker 8: I'm going to do what's necessary. I'm going to cut
Speaker 8: the waste full spending. And that's what he's doing now.
Speaker 8: Whether it's lawful or not, I think it's going to
Speaker 8: take the test of time and probably the Supreme Court
Speaker 8: to determine that. But that Empowerment Act was established so
Speaker 8: that presidents could not cut funding spent that was spent
Speaker 8: that was approved by Congress, and I think that's really
Speaker 8: going to be the uphill battle for this president.
Speaker 1: Well by pointing out the obvious waste in some of
Speaker 1: the ridiculousness that's been going on at these federal late
Speaker 1: I saw a report over the weekend that an NGO
Speaker 1: that was curated by Chelsea Clinton helping to feed poor people.
Speaker 1: This is US tax dollars that are going to this
Speaker 1: non governmental organization and NGO it was costing fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a plate to feed people. I know the Freestore
Speaker 1: Food Bank claims that with every dollar they can feed
Speaker 1: three people, So I don't know what they were feeding
Speaker 1: them for fourteen hundred dollars a plate. And you wonder
Speaker 1: where the rest of the money was going, don't you?
Speaker 1: Or do you even have to wonder?
Speaker 8: No, absolutely, I do believe that this is what the
Speaker 8: President's going to do. He's going to waken up the
Speaker 8: American taxpayer. But who he wakens up the American taxpayer?
Speaker 8: So they waken up their congress member and their senator
Speaker 8: to say, we're not going to accept this anymore, and
Speaker 8: if you continue to do this, we're going to throw
Speaker 8: you out. Because that's the key. This is the job
Speaker 8: of our House members and our Senate members. This is
Speaker 8: the job of Congress. And this is where Congress has
Speaker 8: felled the last forty years. We haven't Congress hasn't passed
Speaker 8: a budget or appropriation bills for over twenty five years.
Speaker 8: And that's how you cut out this wasteful spending. But
Speaker 8: they just don't do their job. And I was frustrated them.
Speaker 8: I was there, I was a member of the budget committee.
Speaker 8: We could not get anything passed, and if we did,
Speaker 8: it would go over to the Senate. I'll never forget
Speaker 8: we threw three hundred and sixty to four hundred bills
Speaker 8: over to the Senate a year, only for them to
Speaker 8: die where the Senate wouldn't pick them up.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing. But I mean, isn't there some pocket lining
Speaker 1: going on somewhere with this stuff? You said it's all
Speaker 1: about power and having the power of the purse spring
Speaker 1: and the like. But I think there's some cash that
Speaker 1: is slipping through the cracks somewhere. I don't think that
Speaker 1: all twenty million dollars that was earmarked by USAID to
Speaker 1: produce a Sesame street show in Iraq went to that project.
Speaker 1: Do you to me a lot of foreign A I
Speaker 1: think as much as ninety percent of foreign eight is
Speaker 1: money laundering, but that's my own personal view.
Speaker 8: Well, look, I do think that foreign aid needs to
Speaker 8: be looked at, but that's not Here's what I don't
Speaker 8: want people, especially your.
Speaker 13: Listeners, understand.
Speaker 8: You can eliminate all the foreign aid, you still have
Speaker 8: a big deficit. I mean, until we look at the
Speaker 8: real drivers of the debt. Foreign aid represents about forty
Speaker 8: I think it's forty million dollars a year, which is
Speaker 8: a big number for a lot of people, don't get
Speaker 8: me wrong. But at the same time, it's not going
Speaker 8: to fix our debts and deficits. And we can't focus
Speaker 8: on this little shiny thing over here and say, wow,
Speaker 8: if we get rid of this, we're going to fix
Speaker 8: our government spending. We got to focus on the drivers
Speaker 8: of the debt, which is much more difficult and nobody
Speaker 8: really wants to talk about.
Speaker 1: Nobody really wants to talk about it or apparently do
Speaker 1: anything about it. And you know what, maybe you don't
Speaker 1: get to thirty six trillion in debt million a time,
Speaker 1: but every drop in the bucket will eventually fill up
Speaker 1: that bucket.
Speaker 8: Jim one hundred percent agree, one hundred percent agree. But remember,
Speaker 8: for your listeners, we have record money coming into the treasury,
Speaker 8: four point five trillion dollars coming in. We spend four
Speaker 8: point five trillion dollars on Medicare, Medicaid, SoC security, and interest.
Speaker 8: So we spend and then we have a then we
Speaker 8: have a trillion and a half left over. That's our deficit.
Speaker 8: Half of that goes to the military. So if you
Speaker 8: start looking at these numbers, yep, forty billion here might
Speaker 8: knock down a little bit. But in anything, we've got
Speaker 8: to look at what the drivers are, and a lot
Speaker 8: of it's waste fraud abuse. And by the way, some
Speaker 8: of that waste fraud abuses in Medicare, Medicaid.
Speaker 2: And SOCID security as well.
Speaker 8: We've got to start looking at those programs and digging
Speaker 8: out that waste fraud abuse as well well.
Speaker 1: President Trump is obviously pro military. Of recruitment has never
Speaker 1: been higher since the election because people are wanting to
Speaker 1: join our military again without all the d EI garbage
Speaker 1: getting in the way of defending the nation. But President
Speaker 1: Trump and Pete Haigseth, the new Secretary of Defense, they
Speaker 1: are more than willing to look at the abuse within
Speaker 1: our Defense department, which is a large chunk of our
Speaker 1: federal budget as well.
Speaker 8: So another little thing for your listeners. When I was there,
Speaker 8: it's one of the reasons why I left, to be
Speaker 8: honest with you, I was so frustrated. The Department of
Speaker 8: Defense has never been audited. Nope, never been audited. And
Speaker 8: when I would talk about that and say, if you
Speaker 8: don't audit, how do you know what you're spending, people
Speaker 8: would get mad at me. But it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 8: And I'm hoping the new Defense Secretary requires auditing because
Speaker 8: that would be important.
Speaker 1: Jim or Nacy, thank you so much for your time
Speaker 1: this evening, and I hope we will have a chance
Speaker 1: to talk again. Lots of good InFocus thank you as well,
Speaker 1: you bet you, thank you. It's the nightcap on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW And just for a good measure to close tonight,
Speaker 1: Dennis Wildman Walker joins us. Who has got one question
Speaker 1: for me or one demand of me? After the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl outcome that saw my Chiefs lose in a pitiful
Speaker 1: performance to the Philadelphia Eagles last night in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: What was the demand or question that you had, wild Man?
Speaker 1: I want my dollar, I want my dollar.
Speaker 13: And it wasn't a pittable performance.
Speaker 9: It was a and the words of Marty Brennaman on
Speaker 9: old fashioned butt webbing handed down by the Eagles.
Speaker 13: The game was over at halftime.
Speaker 1: At halftime, we'll get into all of that, sir, And
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. It was an old fashioned butt women.
Speaker 1: You know what, It reminded me of the Bear's victory
Speaker 1: over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, when they had that incredible defense Singletary and
Speaker 1: William Refrigerator, Perry, Jim McMahon at quarterback, Marshall yet Wilbur Marshall,
Speaker 1: Walter Payton. But that defense that they put on last
Speaker 1: night looked so much like that vaunted Bears defense. Don't
Speaker 1: you think that? Isn't that a good comparison? I like
Speaker 1: that comparison.
Speaker 9: Six sacks, three turnovers, uh picked six?
Speaker 13: I mean the Eagles. I felt right from the start
Speaker 13: in this matchup.
Speaker 9: You know, came to fruition that the Eagles had, you know,
Speaker 9: a person a better personnel across the board, and they
Speaker 9: proved it. And they proved it.
Speaker 13: I think they were the number one defensive team in football.
Speaker 1: I think that part of that too was Nick Soriani
Speaker 1: solving Andy Reid's Rubik's Cube, because a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of other great coaches in the NFL with good
Speaker 1: defenses haven't been able to solve the Andy Reid offense
Speaker 1: in Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes at the head. But
Speaker 1: it's like they knew what they were running every time
Speaker 1: they snapped the ball.
Speaker 9: Wild Man, it was amazing. Well, what can't you say?
Speaker 9: Forty to twenty two? The fly, eagles fly, and I
Speaker 9: want my dollar. Well, a couple of things here for you.
Speaker 9: We're not gonna spend it. Listen, listen, wild Man, You'll
Speaker 9: get your dollar. We're not gonna spend the entire eighteen
Speaker 9: nineteen twenty minutes whatever this is. You asking for a dollar,
Speaker 9: I understand You're gonna get your dollar. And it was
Speaker 9: a gentleman's bet, and a gentleman doesn't ask, he just
Speaker 9: expects it to come from another gentleman and it will,
Speaker 9: believe me, Go, So, what what else you got? Well?
Speaker 9: During the during the game, of course, I mean there's,
Speaker 9: like I said, the pick six that I can't recall.
Speaker 9: They recall a guy's name, but it was his birthday
Speaker 9: his birthday and he returns to pick six and the
Speaker 9: Super bowls here wash any better for that guy?
Speaker 1: Wild Man? It was Cooper de Gene. He's a rookie. Yeah, Cooper,
Speaker 1: it was twenty second birthday, gets the pick six out
Speaker 1: of my homes. Yeah. And it was Sekwan Barkley's birthday too,
Speaker 1: wasn't it that?
Speaker 13: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I heard. I heard before the game.
Speaker 1: Sekwan Barkley had a birthday too that coincided with this game.
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs were the Chiefs were screwed from the beginning,
Speaker 1: just from the birthday wish Aisle of the NFL.
Speaker 9: I think, oh, now you're reaching there. They got the screwed.
Speaker 1: They got out.
Speaker 9: Played totally, you know, in all three phases of the game.
Speaker 9: They got it played all three phases. How about how
Speaker 9: about one? Jake Elliott a former Bengals draft choice. The
Speaker 9: guy never played one down for the Cincinnati Bengals. He's
Speaker 9: not listed on the old time roster because I looked
Speaker 9: it up. He was drafted in the fifth round in
Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. He now has not one, but two Super
Speaker 9: Bowl rings with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 13: He had sixteen points in that game.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and he hadn't had a great season either
Speaker 1: kicking the ball. But last night he was on. Every
Speaker 1: time the day.
Speaker 13: Was on, he was on.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles here's this, here's this, wild man. The
Speaker 1: Eagles committed an offensive motion penalty on both of those
Speaker 1: two of the field goals that he kicked, and you
Speaker 1: know which, it can be almost as unnerving for a
Speaker 1: kicker as the other team called team calling a time
Speaker 1: out right before you kick, so it takes out of rhythm.
Speaker 1: And he was truer and longer with the follow up
Speaker 1: kick both times than he was with the original attempt.
Speaker 1: So I mean, maybe maybe the Eagles did him a
Speaker 1: favor by, you know, committing a motion penalty right before
Speaker 1: he was going to move him him back five years yards.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem to bother Jake Elliott at all last night.
Speaker 9: How did you watch the Did you watch the game
Speaker 9: in its entirety?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 1: I watched the game right up until it was it
Speaker 1: was forty to uh, it was forty to fourteen when
Speaker 1: I went to bed, and then the Kansas City got
Speaker 1: the excuse me touchdown, all.
Speaker 13: Right, So then you must have missed.
Speaker 9: You must have missed the most idiotic comment of the
Speaker 9: whole Super Bowl by one Tom Brady with eight minutes
Speaker 9: to go, quote, it ain't over till it's Ober with
Speaker 9: number fifteen on the field.
Speaker 1: What you know what I did? I said that I
Speaker 1: did see it. I did see it. I thought, well, Tom,
Speaker 1: you're really really trying to builk the listeners out of
Speaker 1: time that they could be spending otherwise, like reading their eyelids.
Speaker 1: And I think it was right after he said that
Speaker 1: that I turned the TV off and went to bed
Speaker 1: because there's no way you're coming back from forty to
Speaker 1: fourteen in the fourth quarter with eight minutes left, and.
Speaker 9: To throw out the Yogi comment. Oh my god, Tom,
Speaker 9: you know that's the best you got. I mean, I
Speaker 9: liked the guy a lot, but that was just that
Speaker 9: was the most idiotic comment of the night during the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl broadcast.
Speaker 1: It really was.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 13: I didn't watch any of the halftime show.
Speaker 1: I have no interest in that. Again, we are we're
Speaker 1: going to save that. We're going to save that for
Speaker 1: our second part of our conversation here. We got plenty
Speaker 1: of time to fill tonight. So sorry, i' again.
Speaker 9: I got a couple other things I got to get
Speaker 9: not off my chest, but I got to tell you so.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, but back to the MVP. You know, Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: he threw for two hundred and twenty one yards. I
Speaker 1: think that the MVP of that game was a Philadelphia defense,
Speaker 1: not not.
Speaker 9: For five super Bowl party that I went to agreed
Speaker 9: with me. But we all know that we're going to
Speaker 9: give it to the quarterback. We just knew it was
Speaker 9: gonna you know, had Barkley had a better game, he
Speaker 9: would have got it. But I agree to give.
Speaker 1: It to the defense.
Speaker 9: And there's only been one defensive player I believe, maybe
Speaker 9: maybe two. I think there's two maybe defensive players, and
Speaker 9: one one went to a losing team one year. Was
Speaker 9: the Chuck Howley of the Cowboys was the MVP and
Speaker 9: the losing effort. I want to say Jake Scott maybe
Speaker 9: of the Miami Dolphins was that MVP.
Speaker 13: But yeah, I knew they were going to give it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about sequon Barkley, because that's the one thing
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs did effectively was pretty much shut him
Speaker 1: down for most of the game. They did, they really did.
Speaker 1: He was not a factor in Philadelphia's scoring to the
Speaker 1: point as far as what he did individually, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they had to focus so much on shutting
Speaker 1: Seguan Barkley down. He's such a weapon. He was like
Speaker 1: a decoy for Philadelphia's offense. That opened up that passing
Speaker 1: game that allowed them, you know, to get those first
Speaker 1: downs and that chunk yardage that they were able to
Speaker 1: get through the air, which enabled Jaalen Hurts automatic, you know,
Speaker 1: eventually to be MVP of the game.
Speaker 9: But okay, the Chief coaching staff were, you know, seeing that,
Speaker 9: you know, the chief Steve Fens where they could be attacked.
Speaker 1: But everybody was talking about how, you know, Sequon Barkley
Speaker 1: if he ran rough shout, the Chiefs had no chance
Speaker 1: of winning the game. And it wasn't Sequon Barkley, Knight.
Speaker 1: It wasn't It was the defense. And uh and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever Philadelphia could muster is a passing game because Kansas
Speaker 1: City's defense did not play a bad game, really, but
Speaker 1: their offense was so overshattered and overpowered by that Eagles defense.
Speaker 1: There was literally no doubt daylight for Patrick Mahomes. And
Speaker 1: I don't blame Patrick Mahomes. You say they got outplayed,
Speaker 1: They just got out muscled on the front line and
Speaker 1: outworked and out coached. I thought that Nick Soreani ultimately
Speaker 1: out coached Andy Reid. And that's not an easy thing
Speaker 1: to do. If you watch the NFL, is it, well.
Speaker 9: When you get like two weeks to repair you'ren you
Speaker 9: can break down everything. And if the defense wins Super Bowls,
Speaker 9: I don't care what they say. Defense wins Super Bowls
Speaker 9: and that Eagles, like you said and I said, they
Speaker 9: should all jointly been given the MVP Award, no question,
Speaker 9: because the front the Chiefs front line had no answer
Speaker 9: for the pass rush.
Speaker 13: They had no answer at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mahomes was under pressure all.
Speaker 13: In all day. I mean again, six sacks.
Speaker 9: When's the last time you heard Mahomes get sacked six times?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was. He was on his butt
Speaker 1: more on the field than he was when he was
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench. Wild man. It was crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: And again for me as a Chiefs fan, I knew
Speaker 1: it was possible that it would happen, but I thought
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs would, you know, do what they'd done
Speaker 1: all season long and at the end of the game
Speaker 1: just be one or two points better than their opponents,
Speaker 1: not a chance of that happening when it was twenty
Speaker 1: four to nothing at halftime.
Speaker 9: Well, you know the guy who's probably the most upset
Speaker 9: about the Chiefs loss, not Andy Reid and not Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 9: not Travis Kelce. You know the guy's probably the most
Speaker 9: upset about Who's that pat Riley? Because he had made
Speaker 9: millions of dollars over the three peat thing. He'd have
Speaker 9: made millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: You're right, because he's got the trademark on that slogan.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he had already worked out a deal with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, poor Patty. I don't feel bad for pat
Speaker 1: Riley and tonight, I'm sorry, I just don't. I can't
Speaker 1: work myself up to it. We'll talk halftime show and
Speaker 1: some other things that wild Man says he's got to
Speaker 1: get off his chest, or he wants to say. Of course,
Speaker 1: today was day one of pitchers and catchers reporting in Goodyear,
Speaker 1: Arizona for this your Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 9: And I don't know if Francona was there first before
Speaker 9: any of them, waiting on him, waiting on him.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, we'll get to it. Wild Man on the Nightcap,
Speaker 1: Part two, coming up on seven hundred WLW number one
Speaker 1: the halftime show. I hadn't had any plans to watch it,
Speaker 1: nor did we watch it at home when it occurred.
Speaker 1: I don't hate Kendrick Lamar. I barely know who he
Speaker 1: is other than he's got a long running feud with
Speaker 1: Drake and that's what he's built his career on and
Speaker 1: all those Grammy awards. Sizza, I'm told has an excellent voice,
Speaker 1: but I didn't tune in to hear Sizza or Kendrick
Speaker 1: at halftime. What about you?
Speaker 9: I might put it this way, everybody at the Super
Speaker 9: Bowl party I was at had their backs turn and
Speaker 9: and the and the sound down during the halftime show.
Speaker 9: Nobody had any interest in all of that.
Speaker 13: What is his name, Kendrick?
Speaker 1: You said it was name ken Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 9: He could walk in here right now in my house
Speaker 9: and I wouldn't know who he was. You know that
Speaker 9: that music is not that's not music.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I think he keeps trying to tell you that it is.
Speaker 13: It's not music. I don't listen to that kind of crap.
Speaker 9: I never have listened to that kind of stuff, But
Speaker 9: I have no interest in it whatsoever. I wish we
Speaker 9: would have seen the I heard somebody got one of
Speaker 9: the performers, you got on the field, it was part
Speaker 9: of the performers, and whipped out a stupid.
Speaker 1: Flag of the palace, Titian flag, Tennian flag.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what an idiot.
Speaker 1: Well, I would think that security would be tighter than
Speaker 1: that at a Super Bowl, especially in New Orleans, especially
Speaker 1: with what happened, you know on New Year's there.
Speaker 9: Well, we had a tucked up on her shirt.
Speaker 13: What they said, you know whatever on her shirt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're allowing someone on the field at
Speaker 1: halftime of the Super Bowl, you got to know and
Speaker 1: vet them and find out, you know, what they've got
Speaker 1: with them, because unless it's the costume that goes with
Speaker 1: the performance, then they shouldn't be out there at all. Period.
Speaker 9: I got to tell you this story. This goes back
Speaker 9: into like the early eighties when the Reds were floundering
Speaker 9: under the leadership of the Great and One general manager
Speaker 9: Dick Wagner, and they they used to have banner Day
Speaker 9: at the ballpark and people would parade on the field
Speaker 9: with banners and theyre saying go.
Speaker 13: Reds, blah blah blah.
Speaker 9: Well, these two guys are on the field of the
Speaker 9: banner and it said something about go Reds. But when
Speaker 9: they got right near home plate, they flipped it over
Speaker 9: and it said fire Wagner.
Speaker 13: Well it was all.
Speaker 9: It was great.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: Of course they didn't check the banners. You know, nobody
Speaker 9: did the check into the banner. You know, somebody got
Speaker 9: the axe on that. But when they flipped it over
Speaker 9: and it said fire Wagner, that stadium, the few people
Speaker 9: that were there, because they all hated Wagner place, that erupted.
Speaker 1: Believe me, the security at this Super Bowl surpassed probably
Speaker 1: secured at any super Bowl in the past, all fifty
Speaker 1: eight before him, because you know what number forty seven
Speaker 1: was there. President Trump was there, the first president, the
Speaker 1: first president to ever attend a Super Bowl game in person.
Speaker 1: And it was marvelous to see him and the family
Speaker 1: saluting during the national anthem. And you noticed during the
Speaker 1: national anthem, which people always cheer at the end, Land
Speaker 1: of the Free and Home of the Brave, the second
Speaker 1: they showed Trump on the big screen and that stadium
Speaker 1: in the super doom, the crowd just erupted with cheers
Speaker 1: at the site of President Trump.
Speaker 9: It was a good game and he was saluting. He
Speaker 9: was saluting the national Yes he was.
Speaker 1: It was a good night.
Speaker 9: Speaking of the celebrities, because I almost forgot about this.
Speaker 9: They showed a number of celebrities. I don't know if
Speaker 9: you know this or not, but they showed the number,
Speaker 9: and they showed Sir Paul McCartney.
Speaker 13: Okay, now, somebody been doing their homework.
Speaker 9: Carry Jeff. They would immediately said, Sir Paul McCartney. They
Speaker 9: would immediately would have said. Sixty two years ago to
Speaker 9: the day the Beatles played The Ed Sullivan Show for
Speaker 9: the first time. You're right, yeah, so somebody dropped.
Speaker 1: The ball there. February ninth, nineteen sixty four is when exactly,
Speaker 1: So it was sixty one years Yeah, this is two
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, So sixty one years exactly since the
Speaker 1: Beatles' first appearance on American television, when seventy seven million
Speaker 1: people tuned in, and I was surprised.
Speaker 9: Major crime was reported in New York City.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and it kind of harkened back.
Speaker 9: Somebody should have been on the ball, even after you know,
Speaker 9: ten seconds, fifteen seconds lay, they should have brought that up.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, not everybody are huge Beatles fans or
Speaker 1: even huge music fans. If you've got Kendrick Lamar doing
Speaker 1: the halftime show at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 13: I couldn't tell about the crowd that they showed by.
Speaker 9: They showed Paul Dussel for TeV.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You know what we watched instead of Kendrick Lamar at halftime?
Speaker 1: What ancient Aliens on the History Channel?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 9: I figured I thought you were gonna say Gomer Pyle
Speaker 9: or a Batman.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not you, but yeah, I found ancient Aliens
Speaker 1: on the History Channel and we watched that, and I
Speaker 1: just kept checking back and said, no, he's still doing
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's still He's still going on and
Speaker 1: on and on with something I don't care about. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't I don't complain
Speaker 1: about that. I just don't care about it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 13: I'm not with you.
Speaker 9: I don't care about it. They have to have some
Speaker 9: kind of halftime show, but I don't care about that
Speaker 9: for that kind of that kind of all that stupid
Speaker 9: dancing or.
Speaker 1: Whatever they're there. Now, do you think music does nothing
Speaker 1: for me? Wild wild man? Did you think that the
Speaker 1: Prince halftime show a few years back was great? I
Speaker 1: did everybody on.
Speaker 13: Talking to that either I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't. I never liked Prince music. I mean, but
Speaker 9: I've worked for a rock station. We didn't play that stuff.
Speaker 9: You know, the guy was a major talent. But I
Speaker 9: had no desire to watch that. I think some of
Speaker 9: the people at the super Bowl party that year did
Speaker 9: watch it, but I have no desire to watch it.
Speaker 13: I had no desire intro.
Speaker 1: And since you don't know, Prince was a little bit
Speaker 1: rock and roll wild man, he may may stop.
Speaker 9: W B never played Prince ever ever.
Speaker 1: Ever, that's sad. That's really not sad.
Speaker 9: He's not rock and roll.
Speaker 13: Come on, come on, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, play play play Stairway to Heaven by led Zeppelin
Speaker 1: one more time. All right, hold on, you said the.
Speaker 13: Song has to be banned.
Speaker 1: So here you have some other things you said you
Speaker 1: wanted to get to and talk about before we're done.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, you just when you mentioned it right before
Speaker 9: the break about you know, today the Reds Pictures and
Speaker 9: Catchers reported first workout I believe is Wednesday for the
Speaker 9: pitchers and then the uh, the regular show up I
Speaker 9: think on Friday, and they'll get the full work and
Speaker 9: get get rolling.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 9: Terry Francona was there, was there first to meet the
Speaker 9: pictures and the catchers. Today it was uh, it was
Speaker 9: announced early in the day from the Reds that they're
Speaker 9: going to honor the hit king Pete Rose with the
Speaker 9: number fourteen patch on their sleeve of their jerseys.
Speaker 13: Here's the problem with that.
Speaker 9: That's a big old dog because I knew they were
Speaker 9: going to do that. Everyboy actually like it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: But that was a big old due.
Speaker 9: You will not be able to buy a fourteen patch
Speaker 9: at the Red Store. A great American ballpark. You cannot
Speaker 9: buy a Pee Rose jersey at the Red Store. A
Speaker 9: great American ballpark.
Speaker 1: Is this part of the band by Major League gas Ball.
Speaker 9: That's League Baseball. When I allowed the Reds and so
Speaker 9: any p Rose items of any kind, anything buttons, anything, nothing, zero,
Speaker 9: you cannot buy anything Peter Rose related in the Red Store. Now,
Speaker 9: if you want a fourteen patch, you probably get it
Speaker 9: from Cooks because they carry everything. If you want a jersey,
Speaker 9: you go to Cooks, you go to Fanatics, or during
Speaker 9: game days you can buy jerseys and probably the fourteen
Speaker 9: patches from vendors on the street. That's just so petty,
Speaker 9: just so Petty And I've saw people on Facebook saying
Speaker 9: did Major League Baseball give the approval? I don't give
Speaker 9: a damn if they give you approval or not. Bob
Speaker 9: GASLNA told me to go pound salt for doing it.
Speaker 1: Any way, Yeah, that would be But see, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm confused by, wild Man. It was always a
Speaker 1: lifetime ban. Pete is no longer with us. The Reds
Speaker 1: players are gonna be wearing the patch on their uniforms.
Speaker 1: What's MLB saying about that?
Speaker 9: Well, I imagine they had to get permission, just the
Speaker 9: way that Major League Baseball works, but major because Major
Speaker 9: League Baseball approved for them to hold the ceremony down
Speaker 9: there for Pete for the funeral ceremony, they asked permission
Speaker 9: for that.
Speaker 1: Well, a lifetime ban, i'd say, would be over if
Speaker 1: you're no longer alive.
Speaker 9: I think if you took it to a higher court
Speaker 9: with some attorneys, yeah, you'd get.
Speaker 1: That ruling, you would, all right. Well, but like I.
Speaker 9: Said, the port the fourteen patch, you're not gonna be
Speaker 9: buying it at the ballpark, and you're not gonna you
Speaker 9: can't buy a Pete Rose jersey at the ballpark.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a Reds fan and you want to
Speaker 1: dress like a red You're gonna have to go get
Speaker 1: your fourteen patch somewhere.
Speaker 9: And I hope that the Cooks they got everything Coaks
Speaker 9: Fourth Street, they got it all.
Speaker 1: Are you getting money from Cooks for mentioning their name
Speaker 1: for time?
Speaker 9: Those guys for years? I've not those guys for years.
Speaker 9: You know, when the Bengals, when the Bengals needed, when
Speaker 9: the Reds need a jerky, like a player comes to town. Yeah,
Speaker 9: Cooks of Cooks are the ones that put they stitching
Speaker 9: on the jerseys.
Speaker 1: Oh how about that? I didn't I didn't know that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, so you learn something today.
Speaker 1: I was I was going to say Rally House, but
Speaker 1: apparently you're getting paid by Cooks to mention their name
Speaker 1: on my show.
Speaker 9: I've bought some stuff at rally House.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, Uh, anything else in our last minute?
Speaker 1: Any other closing thoughts that you have?
Speaker 9: Oh well, let's it's baseball season now, so let's get
Speaker 9: fired up for a baseball season. I mean, the NBA
Speaker 9: playoffs are not not far away. The NHL is doing
Speaker 9: a kind of a Nation's tournament getting ready to start,
Speaker 9: and instead of the All Star game. It's kind of
Speaker 9: like supposed to be an All Star game, but yeah,
Speaker 9: it's like a four nation tournament and the college basketball
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 1: We're we're heading into the hard and hom stretch, you know.
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean, is gonna have a hard time.
Speaker 9: I don't know what they they just played so bad
Speaker 9: the other night against Villanova. I think I'm hoping that
Speaker 9: the Bearcats as a team got together after that lost
Speaker 9: to West Virginia and said, you know what, we're gonna,
Speaker 9: We're gonna we're gonna start playing a little bit different here.
Speaker 13: And they really looked good the last two games.
Speaker 1: But they look they look great against the b YU
Speaker 1: on Saturday. They really, Yeah, but that's.
Speaker 9: Gonna it's gonna so much. Gonna take the Vine intervention
Speaker 9: for them.
Speaker 1: Oh here's one thing to leave you with, wild Man,
Speaker 1: since you are so hateful of Columbus in Ohio state,
Speaker 1: Jim Tressel is now the lieutenant governor of the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio. He's your lieutenant governor, wild Man. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that?
Speaker 9: You know what, And I'm not gonna believe this. I
Speaker 9: really like Jim Tressel because how he how he made
Speaker 9: it to the top. But here's the guy. Didn't he
Speaker 9: have some kind of big scandal there at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're a big scandal. I don't remember what
Speaker 1: it was, but yeah, there was some scandal on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but hey what that's uh, that's who the
Speaker 9: governor wants. He canna have it.
Speaker 1: I could care less, all right, wild man, thank you
Speaker 1: for your time. And as Willy would say, thank you
Speaker 1: for your love and your lust, wild man.
Speaker 9: And oh my lust always, and get those fourteen patches
Speaker 9: of cooks.
Speaker 13: And I want my dollar.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your damn dollar, all right, stop my dollar.
Speaker 1: Stop it yet, I'll nail it to you in pennies.
Speaker 9: Hey, don't make me set Roco with moos over to
Speaker 9: get my dollar.
Speaker 1: I got my own. I got my own Roco Costellano.
Speaker 1: He can, he can match up to your bodyguards any day.
Speaker 1: Your dollars on the way, I go, your your dollars
Speaker 1: on the way, wild man, Thank you, God bless Uh.
Speaker 1: That's it, and we conclude with our national anthem to
Speaker 1: honor America. The Star Spangled Banner plays again on seven
Speaker 1: hundred W LW