WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.960 L W Gary Jeff Walker on this Monday evening, Febuary 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:07.639 the tenth, twenty twenty five. And if I sound happy, 3 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:10.759 if it sounds like I've got a smile on my face, 4 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:18.719 it's because I'm acting. Yes, I am getting over my Chiefs, 5 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:25.320 not just loss but total annihilation by the Philadelphia Eagles 6 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:29.640 last night at Super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans. 7 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:34.759 But I can truly say I know exactly how Bingals 8 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.200 fans feel about losing in the Super Bowl, even though 9 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.520 Bingals fans have experienced it three times. All I can 10 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:49.719 tell you is the amount of I don't disdain. I 11 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:53.640 wouldn't call it outright hatred in most cases, but disdain 12 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.320 people had when they found out I was rooting for 13 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.520 the Kansas City Chiefs when no one in the world 14 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.320 was rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs save our select few. 15 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.879 But I can truly say, also, a loss is a loss. 16 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:08.519 I know. 17 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.079 I know it looked pretty bad, look pretty bad in 18 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.560 the first half, look pretty bad in the first quarter 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.879 for that matter. Last night, the Eagles defense obviously was 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:24.159 a star of the show. Jalen Hurtz gets the MVP nod, 21 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:29.640 although I believe that MVP should have been a team 22 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:34.439 Award for defense from Philadelphia because they were every Poor 23 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:39.079 Patty was on his butt six times via eagle sacks 24 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.799 two interceptions, didn't fare much better at connecting with his man, 25 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:48.560 Travis Kelcey. It was just a total domination. And being 26 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.879 a Chiefs fan, I'm the first to admit it. And 27 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.760 I wasn't in sackcloth and nashes. There was no nailing, 28 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.640 gnashing a wailing or gnashing of teeth or nailing or 29 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:02.560 wasashing of teeth either one, although you could always got 30 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.359 to use a good teeth swash whatever that is. So 31 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.520 on my part, I mean, I wasn't like depressed. I 32 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.599 didn't wake up this morning going, oh my god, the 33 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:18.240 world looks terrible the Chief's loss. No, I do not 34 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:24.120 live and die with wins or losses by the team 35 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:25.960 I have and to be rooting for, unlike a lot 36 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.080 of other people I know. I mean, there are people 37 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.800 I'm sure who were Chiefs fans, the few of us 38 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.319 that were left in America, who are even tonight, more 39 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:44.000 than twenty four hours later after the devastation, thinking to themselves, 40 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:48.039 I don't know how I'll ever go on. I can't 41 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.400 wait till next year. Maybe I'm not even looking forward 42 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.479 to next year. Maybe this is the end for Mahome's 43 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.319 magic and the Chiefs domination of the rest of the NFL. 44 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.400 And maybe it is, and if that's the case, I'll 45 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:04.479 live with it. It's all right. But it reminded me 46 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:09.360 so much of the Bears' domination of the New England 47 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.400 Patriots in the Super Bowl of nineteen eighty six, where 48 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:18.360 the Bears defense same kind of dominating defense led by 49 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:23.800 Ditka and the Boys, and they simply crushed the Patriots 50 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.840 like they were grapes. They were making wine out of 51 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:31.240 New England basically by halftime of that Super Bowl. So 52 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.560 it looked a lot like that. Forty to twenty two 53 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:36.240 is not far off from forty six to ten, and 54 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.840 forty to twenty two is really not a true indicator 55 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:45.280 of how the Eagles dominated my Chiefs last night. So 56 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.199 I old wild Man a dollar. We'll talk to him 57 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.120 about that a little bit later on the show. Before then, 58 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.960 it's it's quite an incredible nightcap that's ahead of you. 59 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:00.039 Between now and midnight, we'll have Joe Evermore, who he 60 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:05.199 was the father of two amazing mountain climbing kids. Another 61 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.759 record set for the youngest ever to reach the Matterhorn. 62 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.800 And there are some other peaks which we will document 63 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.800 in our conversation just a few moments away. Also excited 64 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.480 because I am a lifelong Blue Bloods fan. That's right, 65 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:25.480 the TV series that just can included last year as 66 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.920 they finally hung it up, Commissioner Reagan and the family 67 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.519 at the dinner table finally decided to go their separate 68 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:37.720 ways and not produce any more fantastic network television. We 69 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.120 have Kevin Wade, who was a show runner for Blue 70 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:48.600 Bloods for like eleven seasons and also is a screenwriter, 71 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:53.040 many many great credits to his name and his pen 72 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.639 and we'll be talking to Kevin Wade tonight. Kenneth Abramowt's 73 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:03.079 latest one international geopolitical stuff. Jim Reneesi, former Ohio Senate 74 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.040 and gubernatorial candidate. I'll ask him his thoughts about the 75 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.800 fact that Jim Tressel, that's right, Coach Tressel, as of 76 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.680 today named the new Lieutenant Governor of the Great State 77 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.399 of Ohio. I guess urban Meyer was busy with his 78 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:24.800 podcast Pastor Mark Builts on what is ahead for us 79 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:31.639 according to the Scriptures and also Al Risa Jeverasardi. Now 80 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.759 I've been practicing this name ever since I booked this 81 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:40.000 guest last week, Ali Reza, Jeff Farzada. He is an 82 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.959 expert on Iran, and Iran is at the top of 83 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:49.120 the ticket when you're talking about Gaza and the state 84 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.240 sponsored terrorism that Iran has been funding under the Biden 85 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:56.399 administration that may no longer be possible under a Trump administration, 86 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.600 the Trump effect, and what is changing in the country 87 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:04.839 of Iran right now as we talk tonight. Anyway, Joe 88 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.079 Evermore is coming up next, and I will not ask 89 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:11.000 him who he had in the super Bowl, because frankly, 90 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.040 I don't care. I don't care who you had in 91 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.040 the Super Bowl. Most of my friends and most of 92 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.959 the people I talked to were Eagles all the way 93 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:22.399 because they were just tired of KC. I get that, 94 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:28.639 and I'm not sad, So send no condolence cards. Wild 95 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.360 Man will get his dollar and we will begin in 96 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.959 earnest the Nightcap in just moments on seven hundred WLW. 97 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.879 And by the way, Bengals fans, I know how you feel. 98 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:40.720 I know how it feels to be a fan of 99 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:44.639 a team that lost to Super Bowl. Only I'm only 100 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.720 dealing with one as of right now. And that was 101 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:52.680 last night. I saw the ten year old and the 102 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:56.319 seven year old that are setting records for mountain climbing 103 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:59.560 at some of the world's tallest peaks and most challenging 104 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:06.319 climb and the pitchman was offering their father to come 105 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:08.959 and talk to me. I said, I got a chat 106 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.800 with this guy, and so as a result of that, 107 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.000 thank you for him allowing us some time out of 108 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.000 his very busy day. Obviously very busy all the time, 109 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.879 especially with two young, growing boys who like to climb mountains. 110 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.759 Joe evermore, joins us for a few minutes on the 111 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:31.399 nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Good evening, pleasure to be here. 112 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:37.560 So tell me about you. First, You've obviously always been 113 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.120 into mountain climbing, correct, Yeah. 114 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:41.199 Ever since I was a kid. 115 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:43.920 When I was a little kid, I would tell people 116 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:45.720 I want to be a mountain climber when I grow up, 117 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:47.759 and so I had no idea what that is, and 118 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.759 I get that's not what I do occupationally now, but 119 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:55.240 it's still a part of our DNA and we climb 120 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.519 climb big staff at our kids. It's really how. 121 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.720 We develop and grow them to be then Wow. 122 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.319 That's that's it's an incredible story, the challenges that come 123 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.560 and the cheating, death and all of that and being 124 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:13.120 as careful as you can. I noticed that just recently 125 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.839 you have a ten year old that you climbed the 126 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.560 Matterhorn with and the Swiss Alps back in the fall 127 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:25.560 or late summer, early fall, and now your seven year 128 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:32.639 old has also mounted some some pretty serious climbs. Let's 129 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.159 let's talk about the ten year old. First. Matt. Is 130 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:36.679 that his name Matt. 131 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.240 Sam sam Samuel Samuel Adventure, their oldest. 132 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:47.240 Play, Samuel Adventure. Yep, that's that's his that's his legal name. 133 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:49.919 Yes, his middle names Adventure. 134 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:57.440 That's Great Sam Adventure. Yeah. Tell me about the Matterhorn climb, Joe. 135 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.519 Yeah, So the matter of Its presents captivating mountain in 136 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.279 the world. It's definitely the most famous mountain in the world. 137 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:08.360 And it's in Switzerland, and we planned it out for 138 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:11.799 a year in advance, and there's a lot of logistics 139 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.720 to pull this off with a kid, and we got 140 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.080 within about twelve hundred feet of the summit and hit 141 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.000 a turnaround time cut off only by about five minutes. 142 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:23.039 But I made the. 143 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:26.360 Decision to turn around and even though the day was perfect, 144 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.600 we turned around and are actually hoping to go back and. 145 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:33.840 Try it again, but we didn't. 146 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.399 I wanted to teach Sand to respect the mountain first, 147 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:42.320 And it was sad, but a hard decision to, you know, 148 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:43.759 make it right at that time. 149 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.320 Yeah, because there was a rock fall or something that 150 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.000 was endangering him reaching the summit correct. 151 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.000 Well, well, not necessarily. It's just an arbitrary it's kind 152 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.840 of an arbitrary time. But if you if you hit 153 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.440 the summit of this mountain at like eleven o'clock in 154 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:01.799 the morning and you can hardly even fly a kite 155 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.759 because there's just no weather. But at three pm on 156 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:08.159 the average day, you could have one hundred mile a 157 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:11.159 mile an hour wind in a total white out, And 158 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.200 to just get caught in any of that and then 159 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.519 get off route on this particular mountain is like for 160 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.679 sure going to kill you. And so it's you know, 161 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:25.120 it's just trying to teach Sand respect the mountain and you. 162 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.720 Know, and to do the right thing. 163 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.639 And so we're gonna have to get up a few 164 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.360 minutes earlier on the next one and be a little 165 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.240 more prepared. I was just suffering from shingles, and so 166 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.240 I was I was actually kind of the one slow. 167 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:37.879 On the stand a little bit. 168 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:44.159 Gee, I can't imagine if you're in those in that climate, 169 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.320 you're in that environment, you're climbing a mountain, and you're 170 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.440 dealing with shingles. I just can't either. Yeah, I can't 171 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.000 even imagine dealing with shingles sitting here on the radio 172 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.799 right now. I just the pain and the itching and 173 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:57.639 the whole ball of wax. 174 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:58.639 That's what it was. 175 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:02.039 I didn't sleep one hour of the day before and 176 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:07.200 the night before and just just was just in total agony. 177 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.200 And yet that was the plan, like we you set 178 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.879 these things months in advance, and doesn't matter. 179 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:17.399 You know, I'm going for it with Joe. I may 180 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.720 have misread you have two sons or just Sam. 181 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:22.919 I actually have four sons, so i'll give you. I'll 182 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.240 run down the name. So I have Sam Adventure. He's 183 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.879 ten and he's also the youngest person to climb out 184 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:32.080 kept his hand. Then we have Sylvan light Year, who's 185 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.600 just turned eight this week at the Great Wolf Loge 186 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.159 with his birthday. That's what we've been talking about for 187 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:38.200 these newest. 188 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:39.679 Crazy things we've pulled off. 189 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:44.960 Then we have Joey Danger who's five and he's already 190 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.159 summoning some mountains. And lastly we got a brand new 191 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:53.799 one named Blaze Wilder, and he's definitely everybody's favorite. He's 192 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.360 just this little hand that we carry around and cuddle with, 193 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.519 and that's real cute. He's only a couple months old. 194 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.639 Wilder is a great radio name. I mean, I wish 195 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.440 I'd picked that for my disc jockey name. It's Blaze 196 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:07.720 Wilder right here. 197 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:12.399 Oh, so the five the five year old has summited 198 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.559 some mountains, she said, oh. 199 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:15.159 Yeah, yeah. 200 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.000 So we started out when they're five. And the first 201 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.159 mountain we do is Tingora in the circu of the 202 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.039 Towers in Wyoming, and it's a big deal. You have 203 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.240 to to hike about eleven miles just to get to 204 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.440 this mountain, so's the backpack trip. And then the mountain 205 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.679 is massive and it takes a full day of adventure. 206 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.919 And what was unique about this last summer is that 207 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.200 Sam led the pitches and so he was like the leader. He's, 208 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.840 you know, the ten year old leading, and then Sylvan 209 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.080 would climb alongside Joey. Sam sets the anchors and then 210 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.679 me and Ann set up another system to kind of 211 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.639 chaperon the whole thing. And you know it's because Sylvan 212 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.759 and Sam had already climbed ping Goora and so it 213 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.600 was like, now Joey's turn, and it I'll just kind 214 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:04.759 of came together and we did this epic thing. And 215 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.440 what was so hard about that was that my wife 216 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.720 was doing it five months pregnant, and so we've got 217 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.960 the whole family on top of this really really red mountain. 218 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:19.320 So your wife is five months pregnant, and then in 219 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.559 the case of the matter horn, you had the shingles. 220 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.159 Nothing stops you. People, This is amazing. Tell me a 221 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:29.480 little bit about Anne and your your wife, joe she is. 222 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.240 She's a special woman. She's like as good as it 223 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.759 gets when it comes to having a wife. Like she's 224 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.279 she's fun and always up for anything, okay. And we 225 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:44.000 really fell in love climbing a mountain in that same place, 226 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.000 in the circuit of the towers on this wall called 227 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.639 Wolf's Head, and the two of us and two of 228 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.799 the guys got stranded up on this mountain overnight, oh 229 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.000 and just shivered, s gibbered all night. And that's when 230 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.919 I realized, I said, Man, this is this girl's marriage material. 231 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:02.480 I think, I think you can keep up with this, 232 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:06.639 And soon after that that I was talking to her 233 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.639 dad about marrying her. 234 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.799 What was what was the first mountain you climbed. 235 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.879 Joe, That's a good question. I don't know. 236 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:21.320 I climbed the Grand Teton in my hiking boots when 237 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.960 I was in high school. I must have been in 238 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.759 like tenth grade, and I had a buddy who drove 239 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:32.080 out there with me and we climbed that. That's probably 240 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:33.639 the one that I most remember. 241 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:35.440 You know. 242 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.440 The thing that amazes me is that how you have 243 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:44.240 this inspiration when you're a kid. You just knew. When 244 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:46.679 I was seven years old, I was listening to the radio. 245 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.879 I said, you know, that's what I want to do, 246 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.960 and thankfully God has allowed me to do that since 247 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.480 I was nineteen as a job. All these years later, 248 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:02.039 I look back on it, and I guess know, most people, 249 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.799 most people when they're kids, if they have any imagination 250 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.360 at all or any ambition at all, have you know, 251 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.480 dreams that they want to pursue. And very few of 252 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:17.279 us get to pursue those dreams into our adult lives. 253 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:21.039 But you have. And it's just such an amazing story. 254 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:25.879 Four kids, a wife and plenty of mountains around to climb. 255 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:27.600 Go ahead and talk talk to that if you will. 256 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.120 Well, I was just gonna say with what you're saying 257 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.279 is so true, and I think it's our role as 258 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.200 the father, my role as my as the father, I 259 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.679 say it. I'm always trying to find that superpower in 260 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:40.879 each of my boys and really kind of figure it 261 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.720 out and then help them, like, you know, develop it 262 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.320 and you know, because it's like there's potential there, but 263 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.279 we've got to develop that thing and build that thing. 264 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.039 And that's one of my favorite parts of being of 265 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.080 dad is, you know, having those conversations with Ann trying 266 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.559 to figure out what is each boy superpower? How can 267 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:03.159 we develop them toward that kind of rock climbing is 268 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.440 kind of a prerequisite though it. 269 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.919 Isn't it isn't necessarily what. 270 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.559 They have to do in life, but it's just part 271 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.919 of our family. But but but yeah, I'm trying to 272 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.240 figure that out for each boy. 273 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.039 Well that's great, that's great. I mean, what's the uh, 274 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:19.559 what's the next goal? 275 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:21.279 Oh? 276 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.360 Well, so first of all, we do one massive Massagi 277 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.039 goal for each person or our family each year, and 278 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.159 so it's like we always have it, and so to 279 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:34.279 be one of our goals, there's three rules. One, it's 280 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.639 got to be really visual, so like we can imagine 281 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:39.279 it being on our wall. 282 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.039 Which we literally put these on our wall. It's like 283 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:42.080 our house is full of them. 284 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:42.279 Now. 285 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:45.960 Number two, it's it's got to be hard enough that 286 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.759 you have to train and work towards your goal a 287 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.639 little bit every single day, because if it's not almost impossible, 288 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:54.759 then you're not really going to work at it every day. 289 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.480 And then three, well, number three is really important. 290 00:16:57.840 --> 00:16:58.000 Uh. 291 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.559 It's that you can't die. And so we have to 292 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.240 have the right training, the right preparation, the right team, 293 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:09.000 and the right plan you know, at the right time 294 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.920 of year, uh, and the right weather to pull it off. 295 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.319 And so we got to line all that up and 296 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.359 not die on the uh on these mountains? 297 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:18.480 Who do? So? 298 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.319 How can people find out more about and learn about 299 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.839 your story? This is just an amazing story. 300 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:29.400 Yeah, I mean best in follow Sam his follow follow 301 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:34.480 him on Instagram at Samuel Adventure. All of those boys' names. 302 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.680 I gave him Instagram accounts and so you can follow 303 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:39.880 any of them. They're also on Facebook and you can 304 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.079 also follow me at just the Evermores all right. 305 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:45.000 What's your middle name, Joe? 306 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.839 Yeah, my middle name is Emmett. Uh. 307 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.720 My parents didn't have as much vision for naming as 308 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:52.599 the God's given me. 309 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:58.920 Your parents weren't as creative when it came to middle names. Well, yeah, 310 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.720 it's a blast to talking to you. And again, give 311 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.440 me Sam's Instagram. What is it? 312 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:03.599 Just? 313 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:08.759 Sam Adventure, Samuel Adventure, Yamuel. If you put in Sam's Venture, 314 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:09.480 you'll find them. 315 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:11.640 What part of the country do you live in, Joe? 316 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.799 We live in Colorado. This is like Colorado Springs. We 317 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:17.160 think it's like the Holy Land here. 318 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.720 Great, perfect for mountain climbers. 319 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.279 Yep, that's why where are you at? 320 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:28.319 We're in We're in Cincinnati, Ohio, live just south of 321 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.680 downtown on the Kentucky side. 322 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.519 And it's well, I got I got some vrbos out 323 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:35.440 here if you want to come out to Colorado sometimes. 324 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:39.240 Oh man, that sounds fun, but I'm probably not going 325 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:40.960 to climb a mountain if I've got shingles. 326 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.279 Okay, oh man, Well when you don't have it, I'll 327 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:45.039 take you, all. 328 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.960 Right, Joe Evermore and Sam Adventure and uh, the other 329 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:54.680 kid's names, Sam Adventure, Ye, Sylvan light Year. 330 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:59.079 Joey Danger, Joey Danger, the Blaze Wilder and that's their name. 331 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.480 Their names can be for a whole other program sometimes. 332 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:06.000 Okay, thanks so much, man, this is interesting stuff. Great, 333 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.000 great to talk with you. That's Joe Evermore his mountain 334 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:15.000 climbing family out in Colorado. On the Nightcap, back after 335 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.480 News with Kevin Wade, who was a show runner for 336 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.519 Blue Bloods for the entire run of that television series, 337 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.519 one of my favorites. Next on seven hundred WLW if 338 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.640 long from the beginning of the show. Fan and devotee 339 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.759 of Blue Bloods, the television show it just concluded this fall, 340 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:39.319 and I heard that this guy, along with being a 341 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.319 screenwriter and the writer of the new book which we 342 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.880 will discuss, Johnny Careless, he was a show runner for 343 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:51.039 Blue Bloods for what eleven seasons. Kevin Wade joins us 344 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.680 on the Nightcap. Kevin, it's a pleasure to talk to you. 345 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.960 And you know, I have all kinds of questions about 346 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:02.480 Tom Selleck and and Aaron and Danny and all of 347 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.559 the rest of the crew, which I know that you 348 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.519 came into contact with you had to over eleven years. 349 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:08.359 Is the show right? 350 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.960 Yeah, Well, I'll take all of them. Man. I joined 351 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.400 Blue Bloods in its first season as a writer, and 352 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.440 by the second season, Leonard Goldberg, the creator of the show, 353 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.400 asked me to take over as showrunner, which is a 354 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.200 nebulous term that I'll explain to your audience. 355 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:28.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Please tell me what a show runner is. 356 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:34.240 A showrunner is the head writer and the head diplomat 357 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.880 between the writers and the cast, and then his other 358 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.279 duties are completely dependent on the tone of the show, 359 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.079 the network that it's on, or the streaming service and 360 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.400 everything else. So I was sort of chief cook, bottle washer, 361 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.359 ed writer, and backseat driver. 362 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.640 You had a whole lot of titles, wear a lot 363 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.440 of hats when you're a showrunner. I get it. Yeah, 364 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:03.119 So tell me a little bit about the dynamics of 365 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.440 that cast, because they always appeared to be very close knit. 366 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:11.039 I don't know if it was the Sunday dinners where 367 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:14.519 they would sit at the table and apparently listen to 368 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.960 some of the cast members eat for hours or at 369 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:22.599 least pretend to eat for hours. Was it a close 370 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.759 knit group? They really? They came through that. 371 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:31.480 Way, that's true, and they were, and you know, it 372 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:33.559 becomes when you run that long. We were on for 373 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.240 fourteen seasons at around twenty twenty one episodes. This season 374 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.480 it was almost three hundred episodes. And when you're playing that, 375 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:43.559 whether it's in a stage play or in a series 376 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:47.240 of motion pictures, or certainly on a fourteen year run, 377 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:55.519 you inhabit your role and their roles were brother, sister, father, grandfather, nephew, 378 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:58.319 so you tended to do that. 379 00:21:58.759 --> 00:21:59.720 Everybody there was. 380 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.440 A talented actor who I think felt very blessed to 381 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.319 be on that long running train. So it engendered a 382 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:10.119 very nice, very collegiate place to work. 383 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.400 You also worked as a noted screenwriter. I mean, amongst 384 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.960 your credits made in Manhattan, Working Girl, Meet Joe Black, 385 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:20.720 Mister Baseball, True Colors. 386 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:22.160 Yep. 387 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.200 You decided to write a book when the Hollywood writers 388 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.880 strike kind of took you off the field. There put 389 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.720 you on and everybody everybody off the field, and you 390 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.839 had a pandemic. So you had some extra time and decided, 391 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:44.680 I'm going to write a book, Johnny Careless. 392 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.559 Yes, I was. We were two months into a six 393 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.160 month writers and Actors strike in twenty twenty three, and 394 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.960 I was so used to being on a network broadcast 395 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:57.000 television schedule, that being, you know, a six and a 396 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:02.960 half day, sixty hour week that I found I was 397 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.839 at odds. I didn't know what to do, so I 398 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.160 said down, I always wanted to write a book. I 399 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.440 will try writing a book, and god knows I had 400 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:14.680 the time. So I finished it pretty quickly. And now 401 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.400 it's now I'm on your wonderful radio show talking about 402 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:17.880 a little bit. 403 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.119 So tell me about Johnny Careless. Johnny Chambless. 404 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.440 Johnny Chambless is a good guy, but kind of a 405 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.799 ne'er do well, way over privileged. He sort of rebel 406 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:34.319 without a clue whose best friend or one of his 407 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.519 best friends? Growing up as the son of a cop 408 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.599 from an adjacent town, and the story is told in 409 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.480 the present day and going back in the past. So 410 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:49.079 we watched these two grow up together in comradeship and 411 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.039 in conflict. But on page two of the book, Johnny 412 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.799 Chambliss aka Johnny Careless washes up dead on the beach 413 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:00.640 where Jeep Mulane, the hero of the story, where he 414 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:01.680 lives and works. 415 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.640 Wow, so's you kill off the main character on page two? 416 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:08.400 I love it. Character. 417 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:12.119 Yes, yes, the title character is dead on page two. 418 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.599 And it's all about the inner workings of how he 419 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:17.759 got that way. I would imagine. 420 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.440 It is and it takes place, and you know, like 421 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.960 Carl Hyas in writing about Florida, or Dennis Lahane about Boston, 422 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:31.240 or Michael Connolly about Los Angeles, it's very much the 423 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.880 setting is one of the characters. The north Shore of 424 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.599 Long Island is an old and moneyed and class conscious 425 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:43.759 area of metropolitan New York and so for a guy 426 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.400 like Jeep Mulane, who grew up the son of a 427 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:51.559 cop in a lower middle class neighborhood, mixing with these 428 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.640 folks became an exercise in kind of straddling the fence 429 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.759 when he was growing up. And now he's bounced back 430 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:02.000 after being in ny D cop to being a local 431 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.039 police chief. So it's as much the story of a 432 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:07.880 guy with his nose pressed to the glass looking in, 433 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:11.599 and yet at the same time he's also the authority. 434 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:16.680 So it's kind of goes back and forth across those divisions. 435 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:20.160 It's a very interesting dynamic. Talking to Kevin Wade, the 436 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:24.200 author of Johnny Careless and showrunner as I mentioned, for 437 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:29.000 Blue Bloods ever since their first season, and a screenwriter, 438 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:34.319 did you have any particularly favorite I mean, I guess 439 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.000 they're all your babies when you're writing something and creating 440 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.519 something for the screen. Do you have a favorite of 441 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.720 the ones that I mentioned that Joe Black The Working Girl. 442 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.160 Well that's a great you know. I think Working Girl 443 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.119 because it was it was the first screenplay I wrote, 444 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.279 and I was, I think thirty two, and all of 445 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:58.480 a sudden, Mike Nichols was directing it, and Harrison Ford 446 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.160 and Sigourney Weaburn and me Any Griffith were in it, 447 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.960 and I kind of went from zero to sixty in 448 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.319 a way that was head spinning, but certainly in the 449 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:12.480 rear view mirror, a wonderful time in my life. I 450 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:17.160 loved working on Blue Bloods all those years. Oh it's 451 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.839 a cliche and show business that you become a family, 452 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.519 but if you're fourteen years with the same crew and cast, 453 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:27.160 you really kind of do. There's marriages and divorces and 454 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.000 babies and deaths and all of it. So I would 455 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.480 say that those were those were the highlights. 456 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:42.200 You think Bridget moynihan was jealous of Tom Brady's success. 457 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:50.960 I will be right back after this and no, I 458 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.000 can answer that very easily. Absolutely not. I think she 459 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.640 was happy for Tom Brady's success, and she is very 460 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.480 happy for her own success and the wonderful the success 461 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.079 of the wonderful sun Jack that they have together. 462 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.480 That's why I love that. Will be right back, I 463 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.480 tell you what. That's a cue for me because I 464 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.279 need to take a quick break and we will come 465 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:16.759 back and I've got some more very intense questions about 466 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:21.920 Blue Bloods, and we'll cover how you got started doing 467 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.839 this in the first place. I know that you said 468 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:28.759 that The Working Girl was your first screenplay, but we'll 469 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.920 figure out what the genesis of you writing screenplays was 470 00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.039 when we return with Kevin Wade on the night Cap 471 00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:39.559 on seven hundred WLW. We're back talking with Kevin Wade 472 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:43.720 on seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff And like I said 473 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:45.920 at the top, I've been looking forward to this interview 474 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.359 for a long time as a and I'm still watching 475 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.000 the darn reruns, Kevin, I can't even you know. Ion 476 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.480 runs a full day a marathon of Blue Bloods every Wednesday, 477 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.440 and if I'm home on a Wednesday, I know what 478 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:01.640 I'm going to be watched on TV if I'm watching 479 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.880 TV at all. So I've got to ask you what 480 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.720 was what was the thing that got you into screenwriting 481 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.240 in the first place? What had your background been? But 482 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.680 what have you been doing before that? You were thirty two, 483 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.359 you told me when Working Girl came out and you 484 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.319 wrote the screenplay for that. What had Kevin Wade been 485 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:22.119 doing before that? 486 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:26.799 I dropped out of college when I was nineteen and 487 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.680 moved to New York to become an actor. New York 488 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.079 mostly cast me as a bartender, so by the time 489 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.279 I was twenty five, I could not quite figure out 490 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.839 a path. But I knew that I'd been in a 491 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.160 lot of pretty bad plays and it looked like the 492 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.759 playwright was having a good time. So I wrote a 493 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.839 play called Key Exchange, which is in I think nineteen 494 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.160 eighty one. Audiences liked it and critics liked it, so 495 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.160 I kind of had a career as a playwright before 496 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.839 I got into screenwriting. I had three plays done in 497 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:02.640 New York that had some success, and then Hollywood knocked 498 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.839 in the form of a guy named Doug Wick who 499 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.640 produced a bunch of movies, including Gladiators one and two. 500 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:14.920 Gladiator two was just out, and I did Working Girl, 501 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.039 and then I had about fifteen years of writing screenplays 502 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.519 and then one day the movie phone stopped ringing. As 503 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.519 it does, they just don't tell you in advance, and 504 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:32.680 I looked around for another job, and there was television 505 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.480 and a lot of my friends were working there, and 506 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.400 I'd worked with Leonard Goldberg and Tom Selleck. So when 507 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.839 they were in New York just beginning to film Blue Bloods, 508 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.440 I went in to say hi and meet them and 509 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.160 kind of started as a writer on that pretty much 510 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:49.799 the next day. 511 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:55.039 Amazing's funny the parallels, even though I've not written any 512 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.319 hit TV shows or big movies. I dropped out of 513 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.279 college at night team to become a disc jockey, and 514 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.920 today I do talk and I'm a bartender as well. 515 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.039 Not playing a bartender. I actually play a bartender in 516 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:10.640 real life. 517 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.880 So you know what, it's my second favorite job. Do 518 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:15.960 you enjoy doing it? 519 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:22.319 I do? I enjoy. Let me put it this way. 520 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.359 I think the perfect job is the one where you 521 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:30.039 enjoy going to work and you enjoy leaving work. You 522 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.759 know what I mean, when the job is done, you're 523 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.799 ready to after eight hours. I'm not hanging out at 524 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.960 the bar. I'm not taking I'm not taking that free 525 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:39.960 shot or two from the customers who want to buy 526 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.759 me one. I'm like, I'm headed home. I've had eight 527 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.799 hours here, I'm done. Yeah, And in this job, I 528 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.480 love coming to do radio and when it's done, I 529 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.279 love going home. And the only reason I don't, I 530 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.039 don't totally leave it behind, is because when I'm off, 531 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.559 I'm booking this show, because I booked my own shows. 532 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:05.279 So anyway, well, you got a full day every day, man, 533 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:09.400 But I hear you and listen. Going Blue Bloods was 534 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:12.440 a sixty hour week and a lot of time on 535 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:14.559 sentence up. But I felt the same way I was 536 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.799 with everybody. I had a great time and I'll see 537 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:18.480 you all Monday. 538 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.000 Were Jamie and Eddie all was supposed to be a couple. 539 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.839 From the very inception of putting them together as partners. 540 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.519 Did that enter the minds of people immediately and they 541 00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.720 just waited for the characters to develop, and finally, you know, 542 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:32.960 here they are. They're married. 543 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.640 And it's a great question, but it was kind of 544 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.160 the opposite. We never it's kind of a frowned upon, 545 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:45.279 shall we say, for partner, you know, ride along partners 546 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.799 in a radio car to become personally involved. It was 547 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.680 the chemistry between those two actors Vanessa Ray and will 548 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.160 Esti's and when watched it grow over the seasons and 549 00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:58.119 thought we'd be leaving so much gold on the table 550 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.000 if we don't take this down that run. So it 551 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.359 was a very it was a fun and satisfying part 552 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:04.839 of the arc of the show. 553 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.519 You can say this about a lot of television crime 554 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:14.759 dramas or police dramas, But we had a Fraternal Order 555 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:15.880 Police president. 556 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:16.640 Well. 557 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.119 I asked him one time, I said, what do you 558 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.519 think of blue Bloods? And he said, I like blue Bloods, 559 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:27.319 Only Danny shoots too many people. He said, like, because 560 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.920 most cops, you know, they'll tend ninety percent of police 561 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.160 officers never draw their weapon in like a thirty year career. 562 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.799 I've talked to cop after cop about this, and I 563 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.160 guess just for the sake of keeping the viewer riveted 564 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:47.680 to this and there's danger around every corner, and Danny, 565 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.119 Danny likes to he likes to pull out his weapon 566 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.960 and use it, and it's fun for me to watch. 567 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.119 You're one hundred right on that factoid. It is it's 568 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.359 an even higher percentage that never once draw their weapons 569 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:08.680 in their entire career. The thing about television or movies 570 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.960 is it's just not quite as compelling to watch a 571 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:17.160 cop not draw his weapon. So we aired on that 572 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.359 side of making it hopefully compelling and you know, tense 573 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.839 entertainment rather than a documentary. That way. 574 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.119 The character of Henry Reagan, played by Lenn Carew just 575 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.079 an incredible actor, and the fact that he was able 576 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:39.680 to sustain at his age, the ability were there special 577 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.039 things they had to do for Lenn, just because I'm 578 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.640 getting up an age and I noticed that as the 579 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.680 show progressed too, there were more and more scenes with 580 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:55.319 Tom sitting down and not being real active walking in anything. 581 00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.640 I mean, what kind of concessions do you have to 582 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.240 make for older actors when you're writing and and blocking 583 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:02.440 a scene and all of that. 584 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.240 Well, really, for I'll answer the first part first, lend 585 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.760 zero concessions. He is to this day a very spry 586 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.079 guy who many times during our run was moonlighting at 587 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.679 night doing a one or two man show off Broadway. 588 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:24.719 So he's an indomitable kind of force of nature and 589 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.360 a national treasure and certainly a treasure in the New 590 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.800 York theater for Tom. Listen, it's a long day. You're 591 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.800 moving locations, you're moving around you're walking a lot, and 592 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.400 by the nature of the police commissioner in real life, 593 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.400 he is not running down alleys with a gun out, 594 00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:45.000 He is not chasing bad guys. He is a CEO 595 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.280 of thirty five thousand cops and most of the time 596 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.920 and you see a CEO's either standing before some microphones 597 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.880 or sitting for some form of a CNBC interview. So 598 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.320 that was just we were just stating we didn't make 599 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.840 concessions for either of them. Both. I think lenn Is 600 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:06.199 eighty four, eighty five. Tom just turned eighty a couple 601 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.199 of weeks ago. So these guys are in phenomenal shape 602 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.679 and phenomenal professionals, don't. You don't need to do anything 603 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:14.920 for them. They just bring it. 604 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.360 Kevin, you mentioned earlier six and a half days a week, 605 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.119 sixty hours a week, and people don't get that. You know, 606 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.960 we see it in its edited forms. There's an hour 607 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.880 of network television, probably forty four minutes without commercials, and 608 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.280 we think that, you know, they're cutting this, and it's 609 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.440 just you know, it's it's it's it's it's a it's 610 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.559 no problem. But it's a really a lot, really a 611 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.800 lot of hard work goes into a television production like it. 612 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.199 It's a lot of hard work. As David Linderman used 613 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.679 to say, though it's indoor work with no heavy lifting, 614 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:03.159 I mean it's it's it's a great job, but yeah, 615 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.559 it's hard work, long hours, and part of the hard 616 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.840 work is making sure that the audience just sees the 617 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:11.760 entertainment and not the sausages being made behind the scene. 618 00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.320 Absolutely, the book is Johnny Careless, the author is Kevin Wade. 619 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.280 It has been my extreme pleasure to have this opportunity 620 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.440 to talk about one of my favorite television shows of 621 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.840 all time, which you were a huge part of from 622 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.400 the beginning, and I just wish you great success with 623 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.440 Johnny Careless. 624 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:33.440 Thank you so much, man, it's been great to be 625 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:35.280 with your great talking to you all right. 626 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.880 Same here it's Kevin Wade on the Nightcap on seven 627 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.360 hundred WLW is still a whole lot more ahead after 628 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.719 this if we're an international flair tonight on the show, 629 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.559 because this guest is from the National Council of Resistance 630 00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.119 of Iran. As we all know, Iran has been at 631 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.639 the center of state sponsored terrorism in the Middle East 632 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.199 and around the globe four decades. Ever since the Molas 633 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.559 and the Iatolas took control of that country in the 634 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.679 coup of nineteen seventy nine and took over our American 635 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:17.320 embassy and imprisoned American citizens as hostages for four hundred 636 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.400 and forty four days before being released at the inauguration 637 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.800 basically of President Ronald Reagan in the early nineteen eighties. 638 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.000 But Iran never went away as a threat not only 639 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.159 to the world but to its own people. To address 640 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.599 that for the next few minutes tonight, Alisa Jeffizada, who 641 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.960 is with the National Council of Resistance of Iran, and 642 00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.000 there are changes of foot and maybe Al Risa will 643 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.840 be able to help us fill in the blanks here 644 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.639 what those changes have been, even recently within the last 645 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.239 week or so, with protests in other countries like Paris, 646 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.440 where there are a lot of Iranian refugees that have 647 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.960 fled down regime and other people who have been severely 648 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:13.239 influenced negatively by the actions of the Iranian government. Alarisa Jeffersarda, 649 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.440 Welcome to the Nightcap. How are you, sir? 650 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.800 Thank you so much a great introduction. I think you 651 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.719 put things into contexts. Let me start with the last 652 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.920 part that you said that there was a huge rally 653 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:35.400 of thousands, perhaps as many as twenty thousand Iranians, mostly 654 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:42.039 in Paris, who actually showed up on the anniversary of 655 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:47.239 the nineteen seventy nine genuine revolution that was stolen by 656 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:55.360 the clerics and the protesters in Paris. They demanded another revolution, 657 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.960 which would this time get rid of the clerics who 658 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.800 stole the first solution. And they said rejecting the dictatorship 659 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.719 of the shot, rejecting which was the single party rule 660 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:07.199 and had. 661 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:11.159 The secret police Sabak that went put intellectuals in jail 662 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:14.880 and killed them, but also rejecting the current theocracy that 663 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:18.360 is not only repressive against its own people, but it's 664 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.719 actually the head of. 665 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.880 The snake of war and terror in the whole region. 666 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.320 And they have been like that for over four decades. 667 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.199 And they said the future of Iran belongs to the 668 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.440 people of Iran. Who want a free Iran, a democratic von, 669 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.079 a republic form of government where the vote of the 670 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.880 people counts. They want separation of religion and state. Whatever 671 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.719 your religion is that has to be separate from governance. 672 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:55.360 They want freedom of religion, gender equality. They enter the 673 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.000 killings in Iran. They want peace in the Middle East, 674 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:03.199 the free market economy, and and non nuclear republic Iran. 675 00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:09.480 And that rally highlighted the leadership of the movement for 676 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:13.840 this change that is actually headed by a woman, missus 677 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.639 Madiam Rajavi. She's a Muslim leader who is viminely opposed 678 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:23.119 to the Islamic fundamentalist mentality of the Molas that has 679 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.400 turned everything in the wrong direction. And she has introduced 680 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.840 a ten point plan based on some of the points 681 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.599 that I just mentioned that has gained a tremendous support 682 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:39.239 in Europe, about four thousand parliamentarians from various countries in Europe, 683 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.840 but also the majority of the House and the Senate 684 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.719 here in the United States. That's the kind of future 685 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.159 that we like to see, and that's the kind of 686 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:53.400 future that would impact in a positive way the whole region, 687 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.639 but also Western nations, whether it's Europe or the United States. 688 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.400 Ally, Resa, can you tell me a little bit about yourself, 689 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.639 your background, your family, and your connection to all of 690 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.559 this go back? 691 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:06.920 Yes? 692 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:11.360 Well, yes, you know, I was born and raised in Iran, 693 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.280 and I went to college there, but then I came 694 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.039 to the United States to continue my education, to get 695 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.880 my you know, bachelors and the Masters and all of that, 696 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.320 majoring in engineering. But soon after I found out that 697 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.159 just about all of my close friends, including my best 698 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.079 best friend in high school and other colleagues that I 699 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.079 knew at college, they were murdered by the Iran regime. 700 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.880 One one close friend that we just you know, walked 701 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.280 together to school, sat next to each other in high 702 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.639 school all the time. His name was Addi Ali Kafuri. 703 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.280 He was killed by the regime along with his wife, 704 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.840 who was pregnant at the time of murder execution, and 705 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:03.039 their one year old dog. There all four of them actually, 706 00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.280 one onborn baby, one little one year old old baby, 707 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.039 and the you know, he and his wife. And that 708 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.679 really impacted me because he was the best person I do. 709 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.800 I knew how committed he was to freedom, and that 710 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.039 changed my life in thinking, like, you know, nothing is 711 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.280 going to really go in the right direction unless we 712 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.800 get rid of the iatolas. And that got me involved 713 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:33.320 in the political activities here, trying to raise awareness and 714 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:37.239 focusing on not only the situation inside the country, but 715 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:42.960 also the terrorism pursued by the regime their nuclear weapons program. 716 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.440 And you know, I was involved in exposing you know, 717 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.079 major nuclear sites of Iran that it was our revelation 718 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.920 in August of two thousand and two about the major 719 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.079 nuclear side that no one knew about it that got 720 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.159 the fur for the first time the UN Nuclear watchdog 721 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.760 known as the IAEA to start inspecting the Iranian nuclear sites. 722 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.000 That led to eventually to six UNS Security Council resolutions 723 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.000 against the regime. And so that's really my story. My 724 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.639 story is really very small and compared to all of 725 00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:21.920 the people who really have been in the forefront of 726 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.840 the opposition to dietology. You know, as many as thirty 727 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.519 thousand political prisoners, most of them belonging to this movement, 728 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.920 just in the summer of nineteen eighty eight were massacred 729 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.920 by the then Supreme Leader Romani, who ordered them all 730 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.239 killed because their way of thinking, their ideology, their mentality 731 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.559 was exactly the opposite of the Islamic extremists. They believed 732 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.360 in democracy and freedom. And as many as one hundred 733 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.079 and twenty thousand who have been killed since eighty one, 734 00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:58.000 nineteen eighty one for their political briefs. So but the 735 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.239 good thing, the good news is that the general public 736 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.599 in Iran, especially the younger generation, have totally rejected this regime. 737 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.599 In its entirety. There have been nine rounds of major 738 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.920 uprisings in Iran since twenty eighteen, people asking and demanding 739 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:18.960 for change in Iran, and that's definitely going to happen 740 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.039 because no dictator has ever been able to stay there 741 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.960 and the same power by just killing people or terrorizing 742 00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:30.800 the region. And now is the opportunity and the time 743 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.079 for the United States, for Europe and other nations to 744 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.639 stand on the side of people inside the Brandon people 745 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:40.360 as they bring about change. 746 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.079 Alarisa jeffer Zada and I'm still working on the name. 747 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.440 I will get it right by the end of the interview. 748 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:55.320 Alersa Alarsa, I promise. But it was so wild to 749 00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.760 see the pro Hamas demonstrations in our country at the 750 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.280 college campus level. And then there were all these other 751 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.559 groups who were out during these pro Hamas protests, which 752 00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.199 course Hamas funded by Iran. We know this as well 753 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.920 as Hezbollah and the Huti rebels and all the rest 754 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.519 of the trouble causers and the death merchants in the 755 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:23.159 Middle East. The money flows from Iran for the most part. 756 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:29.760 To see gays for Hamas, what would happen to an 757 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.400 outwardly gay person in your home country of Iran, Alarisa. 758 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.880 Well to understand what would happen to you know, some 759 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.320 minorities or people who are not deemed appropriate by the 760 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.760 Iran regime. Just look at the people who are straight, 761 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.360 look at the people who actually must them. They don't have, 762 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.239 you know, just because of their political beliefs, just because 763 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.639 they are opposed to the Iran regime. They get murdered 764 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.880 and executed every day. So you know, this is a 765 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:08.320 regime that doesn't represent the people of Iran, doesn't represent 766 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.800 you know, any any items under the You and Human 767 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.559 Rights Charter, none of that. And it needs to uh 768 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.000 to be to be overthrown by the by the people 769 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:26.599 of Iran. And so for for that purpose, remember I mentioned, 770 00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:28.360 you know, the head of the snake of war and 771 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.679 terror lives in Tehran. And it's not a new phenomena. 772 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.039 The Iran a regime whoe has been a creator and 773 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.480 funder and trainer of Hezbollah and and all the money 774 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.119 and resources for them in Lebanon came from Tehran. Hassan Nasla, 775 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.480 who is now dead, was the head of the HESBO Law. 776 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.679 He said that everything we have, all the money and 777 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.760 resources we have comes from Tehran. The same situation with 778 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.880 the Huti if you just mentioned that who were targeting 779 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.280 the shipping in the Red Sea. Uh, they they were 780 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.400 all basically nurtured by the run regime. Look at the 781 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.599 the SAD militias, how they were dominating their Iraq and 782 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.519 the regime was doing all of those things not out 783 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.079 of the point of strength. It was an actual act 784 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.760 of desperation. They felt that unless they have these proxies, 785 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.920 who would do the fighting for them or creating what 786 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.199 they call strategic depths, meaning like pushing the problem to 787 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.519 the region. So they have they give, they give money 788 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.760 and resources for the their proxies to do the fighting 789 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.960 on their behalf so they can stay safe in Iran. 790 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.559 The reality is that all of that game is now over. 791 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:44.360 Uh. 792 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.079 The regime's clouds in the region has been significantly diminished. 793 00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:52.800 They've lost, you know, much of their proxya power. 794 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:53.559 UH. 795 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.920 Their their closest ally in the region, Bachelor Asset in Syria, 796 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.639 which Tehrans spent at least fifty billion dollars if not 797 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.280 more to keeping in power over the years, and by 798 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:10.199 you know, by allocating about one hundred thousand of their 799 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.719 proxy forces, including Hesba law to keep outside in power. 800 00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.159 In a matter of eleven days late last year, it 801 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.679 was all gone and Basalt Basha acid is overthrown, so 802 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.679 that cloud is gone. Inside Iran, the people are rejecting it. 803 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.440 This organized resistance known that that they have what they 804 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:33.360 call resistance units inside Iran that are mostly young people 805 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:38.039 who are you know, who are courageous confronting the revolutionary 806 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.239 guards in different sectors and burning the pictures of Hamony 807 00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.760 and Gostom so let Money and those terror masters, showing 808 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.840 the Unian people that this regime is not ten feet tall. 809 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.840 They have their own vulnerabilities and their weaknesses, that they 810 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.480 only stay in power through sheer repression. All of that 811 00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.559 has created the situation that, you know, this regime has 812 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.559 never been so weak, This regime has never been so vulnerable. 813 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.960 And that's why when the United States and Europe and 814 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.760 others tried to hold the regime accountable instead of rewarding 815 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.320 them for their hostage taking, when you hold them accountable, 816 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.400 you impose sanctions, You put maximum pressure policy in place 817 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:25.079 that would significant release, shake the regime, create space for 818 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.880 the organized opposition to do the job of overthrowing the regime, 819 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.480 which is the sole responsibility of the people of Iran. 820 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.519 There's no need for boots on the ground or appropriating money. 821 00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.239 The people of Iran will take care of it. They 822 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.119 were confronted ilusion guards and that's where we need to 823 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:46.039 really put the focus and inform the public about it well. 824 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.199 Putting this maximum pressure on the government of Iran. And 825 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:55.519 as you know Alarsa, President Trump just reinstated maximum pressure 826 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.880 as far as sanctions on Iranian oil that was allowed 827 00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.719 to go on for four years under the Biden administration, 828 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:07.719 which and you saw what that wrought. Iran had money, 829 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.320 the government had money coming back in to fund the 830 00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:16.000 Mullas and Iatolas and their terrorism, and now that money 831 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.920 has cut off. They were almost broke when Biden took office, 832 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:24.599 and they were enabled to enrich themselves so they could 833 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.920 continue this death and destruction throughout the region to solidify 834 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.480 their power. What do you think the percentages are within 835 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:40.760 Iran of people who go along with the Mullas and 836 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:46.840 the Islamic jihad islamis terrorism and the rest of the citizenry. 837 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.599 Is it like a ten ninety split or how is 838 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.039 that split? You say there's growing resistance, how big is it? 839 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:54.760 Right? 840 00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.559 Well, you know, the percentage. In my view, I did 841 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.199 a lot of indications out of even smaller than that. 842 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.920 You only have. You know, Iran is a big country. 843 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:09.239 We have now close to ninety million population, tremendous resources 844 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.119 and everything. But it's really the regime is now limited 845 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:13.679 only to. 846 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:18.119 Its repressive forces and revolution guards and the besiege forces, 847 00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:22.679 the military that they have created and the band of 848 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.320 clerics who rule the country and are backed by those 849 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:27.320 revlution guards. 850 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.119 Uh, that's not a large portion. But of course they 851 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.079 had the control of the country. They have the the 852 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:38.239 you know, the guns and everything, like all the dictators 853 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:43.119 in the weapon exactly, and like all the dictators, you 854 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.199 know that they seem invincible until the day they fall. 855 00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.440 And that's you know, look at Celia Basha Assad who 856 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.400 thought in eleven days the whole thing is going to collapse. 857 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.960 And Assad's army wasn't just like a pin prick. You 858 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.440 know that they they had perhaps one of the most 859 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.760 powerful army in the hot world, and yet it could 860 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.159 it couldn't sustain when you have the waves going against you, 861 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.719 the tsunami of the population, but also the whole thing 862 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.960 that's been generated in the region against the Islamic extremists 863 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.760 against the Iranan regime that would have its own impact. 864 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.239 That's why the. 865 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:25.519 Regime is in it's backfoot the revlution guards. No matter 866 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:28.079 you know, how much money and resources and gun they have, 867 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.679 they will not be able to sustain themselves as they 868 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.800 the way they were doing before. The regime is relying 869 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.639 heavily on developing nuclear weapons, hoping that by getting the bomb, 870 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:43.400 the nuclear bomb, that would help them you know, dominate, 871 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.400 but also most important, they help them stay in power. 872 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.440 They're they're just you know, speeding up the process. That's 873 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.719 why we had a lot of efforts and disregards in 874 00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.719 the past, but just this past month and January thirty first, 875 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.199 actually we had a major press conference in washing and 876 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:05.519 showing how the regime is actually speeding up developing nuclear warheads. 877 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:06.239 You know. 878 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:10.000 So that's why it's so important that the outside world, 879 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:14.239 whether it's the United States or Europe, understand that not 880 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:18.639 only this regime must be held accountable, but the prospect 881 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:22.960 for change has never been so great that there is 882 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:28.119 tremendous potential for change, and there is an alternative contrary 883 00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.880 to what the regime wants to say. Oh, there's no alternative, 884 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:33.480 you know, I'm in power. I'm in charge. Look, I've 885 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:37.119 been in charge for the forty plus years. Nothing can 886 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.599 shape me. Well, that's not the reality. The reality is 887 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.920 that this regime is shaking. The people have been protesting 888 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.119 against the regime. The organized this isn't so powerful. They 889 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.039 just have this speak rally as I mentioned, and in Paris, 890 00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.039 you know, thousands of people showed up calling for change, 891 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:59.559 urging the European capitals, urging the United States everywhere to 892 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.000 stand firm against the regime. Don't give in, don't give 893 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.400 the concessions to the Iran regime. That policy of appeasement 894 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:10.480 over the years has been very destructive, not just against 895 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.880 the people of Iran, but for the whole region because 896 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.519 it actually enabled the regime to stay in power. That 897 00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:17.400 needs to end. 898 00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.719 Now, tell me about the organization real quickly and how 899 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:25.079 people can find out more about the nc R. 900 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.760 I yes, you know. The NCR is actually a coalition 901 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.480 of various groups of personalities that was formed in nineteen 902 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.000 eighty one that it actually acts as the parliament in exile. 903 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:44.719 It has some of the member organizations have network inside Iran. 904 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.039 That's the same network that acts as the engine for 905 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:51.719 change in Iran, that they're organizing protests that are exposing 906 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.400 the nuclear size of Iran and their terror operations have 907 00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.800 gained tremendous momentum. And this parliament in exile has a 908 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:03.440 ten point platform for the future of Iran. Now you 909 00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.119 can you know, we are the office of that parliament 910 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.719 and XR here in Washington. People can visit our website 911 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:14.159 or look at our social media tools and find ways 912 00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:18.559 to to help. Our website is U n c R 913 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.679 I U S dot org and c r US dot 914 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.239 org and all of our social media platforms have the 915 00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:29.840 handle including Twitter or x at n c R I 916 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.960 U S. You can follow us, you can get update 917 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.639 about that, and then when we have activities, they can 918 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.360 you know, help participate. They can also reach out to 919 00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.159 their members of Congress asking members of Congress to support 920 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.280 you know this, this movement to support the ten point 921 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:49.480 plan of missus Rajavi support changing all. 922 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.400 Right, ala Resa, thank you so much and uh I 923 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.679 like your positive attitude. There is hope for Iran and 924 00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.719 for the world because of this movement, and thank you 925 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.599 again for being on the show tonight. For us is 926 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.519 the Gaza strip and President Trump, of course saying the 927 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:12.480 Palestinians should leave Gaza and permanently. Oh, he wants them 928 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:17.800 to actually be out permanently. But in other conversations he said, well, 929 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.840 Palestinians could live there, Jews could live there, anybody could 930 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:24.159 live there, and the US will take over the strip. 931 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:29.360 Another big broad brush stroke by President Trump. He's famous 932 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.000 for him. And again to discuss this for a few minutes, 933 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.760 kenneth O. Bromo, which author of the Multi Front War 934 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:39.360 Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife. 935 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.599 Oh my, Ken, do you think this is a viable 936 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:47.239 plan that Donald Trump. 937 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:52.519 Has Well, I think he just threw this. It's like 938 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.079 a hand grenade in the Middle Age. I think he 939 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.719 just threw this out and I didn't do all the 940 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:04.920 thinking behind it, because this hadn't been a known idea 941 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.119 that was in the think tank circles and in the 942 00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:09.199 political circles. 943 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:10.840 I think it's very bold. 944 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:13.760 And creative on his part, and I think he's obviously 945 00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.559 trying to induce change. And they're basically saying, if you 946 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.239 various parties can't get your act together, I'll get your 947 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:21.199 act together for you. 948 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.480 Right, And he's asked Egypt and Jordan, who have since 949 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.079 rejected this call to let the Palestinians into their country 950 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:33.119 while the Gaza is being rebuilt and you're got to 951 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.320 clear away all the explosives. I mean, it's just a 952 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.079 big pile of rubble now thanks to Hamas and their 953 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:43.960 attack on Israel on October seventh, do you believe just 954 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.519 I mean, it's hard to know hindsight's twenty twenty, but 955 00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:51.800 do you believe truly that this attack by Hamas into 956 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:54.519 Israel would not have occurred if President Trump had been 957 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.440 in office on October seventh of twenty twenty three. 958 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:04.039 Yes, I would agree with them that wouldn't have happened 959 00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.400 because the bad guys were I would say. 960 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:09.559 Half afraid of Trump. 961 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:12.519 They were not afraid of Biden at all. But Trump 962 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:16.639 is very unpredictable, and although Americans might criticize them for 963 00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:21.199 being unpredictable, being unpredictable actually is an asset relative to 964 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.840 your enemies, because your enemy is never sure what he's 965 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.039 going to do to you. And so I agree it 966 00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.519 wouldn't have happened. But under Biden it was clear sailing 967 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:37.920 ahead for the enemies, and so Amas works for Iran 968 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:43.239 and they saw a golden opportunity to create chaos. 969 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.239 What's ironic about it? What's ironic to me about Egypt 970 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:52.960 and Jordan rejecting these people. That's exactly where the quote 971 00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.360 unquote and I'm doing air quotes here Palestinians on the 972 00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.599 Gaza came from. They were refugees from those countries who 973 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.199 did not want them in their country. They still do 974 00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:07.119 not want them in their country because they I wouldn't 975 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:11.480 say they're an evil people by any means. They're human beings, 976 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:16.199 but they make really really bad decisions for leadership, and 977 00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:21.320 they don't want that Islamist kind of lilt fomenting in 978 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.920 their own countries. That's a genuine concern, isn't it. 979 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:27.519 Yes, Yes, the. 980 00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:31.679 So called Palestinians create problems wherever they are. But by 981 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:33.760 the way, if you go back one hundred years ago, 982 00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:42.039 the so called Palestinians were actually Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrian and Jordanians, yeah, 983 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.800 who moved into what we was called Palestine at the 984 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:48.559 time we now call Israel. 985 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:49.480 And because there. 986 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.760 Were jobs, as the Jews moved back one hundred hundred 987 00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.880 and fifty years ago, that there were jobs, and so 988 00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:58.519 the Arabs moved in, so there was no such thing 989 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.199 as Palestinians, and to the extent they were Palestinians, there 990 01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:07.119 was the Jews. Then in nineteen forty eight everyone stopped 991 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:08.960 using the term Palestinian and. 992 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:10.000 Used the term Asraeli. 993 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:17.199 And in nineteen sixty four Russia with their KGB invented 994 01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:20.719 the word or reinvented the word Palestinian and applied it 995 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.599 to the Arabs to create the illusion that they'd been 996 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:24.159 there forever. 997 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:29.840 There's no Palestinian language or culture. Necessarily, they're just Arab 998 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.559 people who were called Palestinians, which was a name that 999 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.320 Rome initially coined just to rub it in the eye 1000 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.519 of the Jews and anyone else in that region, because 1001 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:46.119 Palestine sounded a lot like the Philistines, which were natural 1002 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.920 enemies of the Jewish people. Am I good on that. 1003 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:51.280 Yes, yes, yes. 1004 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.760 From the Roman point of view, it was a derogatory 1005 01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.719 way of saying that Israel didn't exist, or the Jews 1006 01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.519 didn't exist, and they were Palestine. And then it became 1007 01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.159 a good name. In the last when the Jews started returning, 1008 01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.559 they were called themselves Palestinians, and then it became a 1009 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.360 good name, so to speak. From eighteen fifty to nineteen 1010 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.039 forty eight, and after that one hundred year period when 1011 01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.239 Israel was formed, then everyone changed the names of Palestine 1012 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.400 or Palestinians, and everyone said, well, now I'm in Israeli 1013 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:28.000 and everyone forgot about the term Palestinian until the KGB 1014 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:34.360 very smart medivil a group of people who resurrected the 1015 01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.639 word Palestine and then applied it to the Arabs. And 1016 01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:41.280 it was a basically identity theft, and that continues to 1017 01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:41.679 the day. 1018 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:47.559 If you had a guest, Ken, if the president continues 1019 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.840 to persist that this is a viable idea, if you 1020 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.679 had a guess, who do you think if anyone in 1021 01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:56.760 the Middle East will step forward and assist with this 1022 01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.719 rebuild of Gaza? Most likely. 1023 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:05.880 There's a two step process. First, there's a military issue. 1024 01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:08.480 Who's going to clean out Gaza? Who's going to clean 1025 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.920 out Kamas? Well, there's only one country in the world 1026 01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.320 capable of doing that and willing to do that, and 1027 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:16.079 that's Israel. 1028 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:30.159 Yes, I mean, hello, Ken, Well are you there? Ken? Ken? Hello? 1029 01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.719 I think I think we've lost Ken. 1030 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:36.079 Ken. 1031 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:42.239 Are you there? I hear the noise? Hello, Ken, I'm here? 1032 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:43.039 Are you there? 1033 01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:43.960 Yeah? 1034 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:48.840 Okay, let's continue then Israeli is the only one, the 1035 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.440 only country that has the resolve and the resources to 1036 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:56.119 root out Hamas of Gaza and finish, and they've got 1037 01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.519 to be allowed to finish their job. And the previous 1038 01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:06.519 administration wasn't helpful in Israel finishing this job. And I 1039 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.960 think that President Trump obviously is going to be very helpful. 1040 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.559 You saw the visit with Nettan Yahoo last week, and 1041 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.760 net and Yaoho really didn't blink when the President talked 1042 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.000 about the US buying and taking over the Gaza strip. 1043 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:23.679 He just sat there and listened, like the rest of us. 1044 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:30.880 Pleasantly surprised with this bold, creative idea. But it's sort 1045 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.159 of unwritten but implied is that Israel will get all 1046 01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:39.119 the hostages that it can get until the negotiations break down, 1047 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.559 and those can break down any day because you're dealing 1048 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:47.239 with a criminal, terrible criminal. I call death celts comans 1049 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:49.880 death CLT, so you never know, but you get back 1050 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:53.480 as many hostages as humanly possible, and then sending the 1051 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:59.159 IDF soldiers to eliminate all the Kamas people walk, stock 1052 01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:03.039 and barrel. They have to be eliminated, their death culped 1053 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.599 they are menaced They're menaced everybody, including, by the way, 1054 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:09.559 the Arabs who live in Gaza. The number one victim 1055 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.480 of Kamas is actually the Arabs who live in Gaza. 1056 01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.880 Well, Donald Trump was successful in eliminating the ISIS caliphate 1057 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:22.639 in Syria and Iraq. Uh, So what what role will 1058 01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:26.320 we play as Israel finishes the job there? 1059 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.280 Well, America supplies Israel with about two thirds of its weapons, 1060 01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.880 so I would say thinking of it as the joint venture. 1061 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.400 America supplies the weapons in Israel. You the weapons, right, 1062 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.920 and drives out the bad guys uh, and has to 1063 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.480 drive them into unconditional surrender. The lesson we learned from 1064 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.440 World War Two is bad guys stop being bad guys 1065 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:52.480 after they unconditionally surrender. 1066 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:53.880 Right. 1067 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.239 You know, I've heard other people suggest that, you know, uh, 1068 01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.320 there's no way to finish it. But what about a 1069 01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:05.400 new generation that is seeing this in the Gaza and 1070 01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:09.960 becomes radicalized after there's an unconditional surrender. 1071 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:12.239 Well, look what we. 1072 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.840 Did things in history, but look what we did in 1073 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.719 World War two a conditional surrender. We also took over 1074 01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:23.039 their schools for about ten years and re educated the population. 1075 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.760 No one wants to think about that. Things like that anymore. 1076 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.480 But that's what we did, and that's what we would 1077 01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:29.760 have to do this time too. 1078 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.800 I would think so well. Kenneth Abramowitz, thank you very 1079 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.679 much for your time today, and hopefully we'll we'll find 1080 01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.440 a better phone line next time. 1081 01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:39.960 But it's OK. 1082 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.360 It's been great to have you though. Thanks again. 1083 01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.760 Yes, and everyone should listen to my website or watch 1084 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.039 my website Savethwest dot com if they want more information. 1085 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:54.280 Save the West dot com. Kenneth Abramowitz, thank you again, sir, 1086 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.159 have a wonderful ill you bet. It's the nightcap on 1087 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:03.360 seven hundred WLW my ministries out in Washington State, which 1088 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.960 Washington State has been making news not good news, with 1089 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:12.000 trying to restrict parents from knowing what their kids are 1090 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:16.440 doing at school. That's a subject for an entirely different discussion. 1091 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:21.800 But tonight Pastor Bilts and I are talking about how 1092 01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:26.920 this this hostage swap, or the release of the hostages 1093 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.239 in Gaza and the release of all of these criminal 1094 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.039 prisoners that Israel has been holding is just inviting another 1095 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:42.119 October seventh. Israel once released the mastermind of those attacks 1096 01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.360 in their so called peace deal, and Pastor Bilts doesn't 1097 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:52.320 say this doesn't see that this looks like a peace fee, 1098 01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:55.360 a peace deal, or a cease fire. It looks like 1099 01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.280 more trouble ahead for Israel and the rest of the 1100 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.679 Middle East. So Pastor Bilts, welcome to the show, and 1101 01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:04.639 thank you for coming on. God bless you well, bless you. 1102 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:06.400 Thank you so much Gary for having me on. 1103 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:07.079 Now. 1104 01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.719 Pastor Bilts, if you are not familiar with him, or 1105 01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:14.400 have not listened to the program for a while, correctly 1106 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:19.400 predicted there would be some terror attacks here in US 1107 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:23.840 soil before President Trump's inauguration. He made that prediction just 1108 01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:33.800 days before the apparently homegrown radicalized terrorists from Texas drove 1109 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:38.320 his car through Bourbon Street, killing fourteen and injuring scores 1110 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.960 of others. And I was just astounded when I heard 1111 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.840 the report, woke up that morning and heard what had 1112 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.280 happened in the French Quarter, New Orleans the night before, 1113 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:50.519 like three o'clock in the morning. I've just my mouth 1114 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:52.719 dropped open because Mark and I had just had this 1115 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:59.079 discussion about these little many terror attacks that were going 1116 01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:04.039 to be occurring, predicted through through you know, biblical prophecy, 1117 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:08.920 and then we had the Tesla fire in Las Vegas 1118 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.320 where the guy blew himself in the car up to 1119 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.719 make some kind of a demonstration. But I talked to 1120 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:20.359 Mark immediately after that, you may remember, and he said, well, 1121 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.119 there's plenty more happening and plenty more to come. So 1122 01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:25.720 let's talk about plenty more to come now, Mark, if 1123 01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:29.000 you don't mind, what what do you know from the 1124 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.920 signs in the sky and what the scriptures say? 1125 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.560 Well, I can tell you from the signs of the 1126 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.520 sky what the scriptures say. When you get on God's timeline, 1127 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:43.560 there's something that is so prophetically huge that's going to 1128 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.720 happen on June second. Everyone needs to mark their calendar 1129 01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:51.119 June second through fourth, because that is when the United 1130 01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.159 Nations is meeting to promote. 1131 01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:56.479 A two state solution. 1132 01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.479 You could go to the United Nations website and it 1133 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.600 talks about the peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine, 1134 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:08.479 and so the whole thing is about one thing for all, 1135 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.319 bringing peace in the Middle East. What's important about that day, 1136 01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.920 and this is why you can understand the times. 1137 01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:17.760 When you're on the biblical calendar. 1138 01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:24.960 It is Savon six on the biblical calendar, Savan six 1139 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:27.319 was Pentecost. 1140 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:29.079 Most people don't know that. 1141 01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:34.439 Jews kept Pentecost back when Moses climbed Mount Sinai and 1142 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.479 received the commandments and the promise for the Promised Land. 1143 01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:41.479 It is on that very day that God married. 1144 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:42.880 Or went into covenant with Israel. 1145 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.399 And that's the day the UNNA is going to say 1146 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:50.119 Israel has no part. And so whether you like or 1147 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:54.039 don't like Trump, everything is going to come down to 1148 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.159 that day. I know a lot of his cabinet, they 1149 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:01.520 all opposed the two state solution. Prophetically, this is going 1150 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.520 to be the biggest event in prophetic history. 1151 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.680 Is what happens to you N this June second. 1152 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.760 Well, the u N, it's one of those organizations that 1153 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.079 I said, yeah, well u N is a right term 1154 01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:20.880 because they are unnecessary and they are unhelpful. 1155 01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:24.720 In all of the United United Nothing. 1156 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.399 United Nothing. Yeah, very very good. And you know it's 1157 01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:33.359 it's a bunch of globalists who you know, are smack 1158 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:37.600 dab in the face of what God wants for his people. 1159 01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:44.680 I believe is this global monopoly on power on people 1160 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.920 on the world. You know, this is this obviously sets 1161 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:54.199 up some kind of end time scenario according to biblical prophecy. 1162 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:58.359 Whether you're going by revelation or even even before in 1163 01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:03.119 the book, and I mean, Donald Trump is talking about 1164 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:05.920 the US taking over the Gaza Strip, And I asked 1165 01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:09.680 Kennethan Bromowitz about that, Pastor Bilts, what are your thoughts 1166 01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.479 on the possibility of the United States being in charge 1167 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.840 of taking control of that strip of land and helping 1168 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:18.840 Israel rebuild it for Israel. 1169 01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:24.079 It all comes down to semantics and what I mean 1170 01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:26.920 by that. If Trump wants to own it, like he 1171 01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.760 wants to own Greenland or own Canada, it's not a 1172 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.640 good thing. But if we're going to administer it, it's 1173 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.600 a great thing. I think they're nothing better than to 1174 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.640 have the United States manage it under Israeli sovereignty. 1175 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:42.399 That's the key. 1176 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.840 It has to be under Israeli sovereignty. It can't be 1177 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.359 a two state solution that's the United States. 1178 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.319 And Israel versus Hamas in Israel. 1179 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.359 If it's that kind of situation, it's a bad deal prophetically. 1180 01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:00.119 So that's why I'm interested to see how this folds. 1181 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:01.920 But I think that. 1182 01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:04.279 The biggest problem that the UN is going to happen 1183 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:04.920 at this meeting. 1184 01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:09.800 You can't make peace with someone who wants to kill you. 1185 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:10.960 It is so stupid. 1186 01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:12.159 This is not a. 1187 01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.960 Laand issue, it's a religious issue, and so the State 1188 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.600 Department is just clueless. But I'm glad Trump is also 1189 01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:21.960 exposing all of the fraud and everything else going on. 1190 01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:27.119 Yeah yeah, no question with USAID and these other agencies 1191 01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:30.800 that are not working on behalf of the American people, 1192 01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:34.520 they're only lining someone else's pockets. I describe about ninety 1193 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:39.840 percent of foreign aid as nothing but money laundering, because 1194 01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:43.960 I truly believe that's what that is. If you look 1195 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.279 at some of the expenses that have been doled out 1196 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.920 in the past, and hopefully there's a some way there's 1197 01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:55.399 a stop to that, either legislatively or through the President's 1198 01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.279 executive branch. But Pastor Bilts, what about these swaps ups 1199 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:08.239 that Israel is making with Hamas, with the Palestinian prisoners 1200 01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:11.239 that are being let out. There are murderers, they are terrorists, 1201 01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:15.800 mass murderers. Yeah yeah, tell me why this sets Israel 1202 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.600 up for another October seventh. It seems pretty obvious, But 1203 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.079 just explain a little bit further if you can. 1204 01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:25.119 Sure because of this, you know, Sea, I definitely wouldn't 1205 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.279 call it a peace plant. But this cease fire, I've 1206 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:32.319 seen videos where hundreds and hundreds of trucks are now 1207 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.680 entering Gaza with humanitarian aid so called. Many of them 1208 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.079 are fuel trucks that Hamas is going to now have 1209 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.520 fuel to continue rockets and bombs and everything else. But 1210 01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.560 what they're doing, they're coming during all the food trucks 1211 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.960 literally shooting any Gaza civilian who tries to get access 1212 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.640 that they controlled the food, they sell it to the 1213 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:58.680 Gauza citizens. But what's really horrible is they are literally 1214 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.680 telling the families you only get food if your son 1215 01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:07.000 joins TOMAS, and so they're using it as a way 1216 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.800 to manipulate the people. And they've already had like sixteen 1217 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:12.640 oh no, about twenty thousand more terrorists. 1218 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:13.840 They lost twenty. 1219 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.000 They just gained twenty through this peace deal. 1220 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.680 Yeah, not a piece deal at all. See you're saying 1221 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.119 that on June second or June second, of June fourth 1222 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.600 is going to be pivotal with how this plays out 1223 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.319 because of the UN's decision. We do have the right 1224 01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:33.960 to revoke that decision, don't we as a country and 1225 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.159 as a voting member of the UN Security Council. 1226 01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:39.479 Yeah, yeah, right right, yeah, we can stop this two 1227 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:45.920 state solution. Push and prophetically in Zechariah one, Zakariyah is 1228 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.279 shown a vision and it has to do with the red. 1229 01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.199 Horse, which means war in revelation. But when he sees 1230 01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.520 a vision of these four horns, and Zachariah says, what 1231 01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:55.000 are they? 1232 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:59.279 And God basically says, these are the four entities who's 1233 01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:02.640 sole purpose is to divide the land of Israel. Well, 1234 01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:07.079 I believe those four entities are the quartets that began 1235 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:09.960 in two thousand and one with the sole purpose of 1236 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:10.560 dividing the. 1237 01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.800 Land of Israel, and that consists of the UN. 1238 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.920 The EU, the US. 1239 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:17.319 And Russia. 1240 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:20.880 And then comes these four craftsmen to cut off the 1241 01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:24.680 four horns, and zachariss, what are these? And he says, 1242 01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.520 these are for my minished expirit who is going to 1243 01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:28.600 bring terror. 1244 01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:30.920 To every one of these entities. 1245 01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:32.439 That vote to divide my land. 1246 01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:37.000 Well, I hope, I hope We're not one of those 1247 01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:39.000 those four entities. That's for sure. 1248 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.680 I know, I know, and I'm so thrilled that all 1249 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.880 of Trump's appointees are against the. 1250 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.760 Two state solution. 1251 01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:52.720 We just have to hope and see what happens is 1252 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:54.199 June second through fourth. 1253 01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:58.640 It is just huge, Yeah, absolutely, well, I hope we'll 1254 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:03.800 have the opportunity to talk before then and then afterwards 1255 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:07.039 too and find out found out where we're at on 1256 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:12.039 the biblical timeline. Pastor Mark Builts Elshadai Ministries, thank you 1257 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.600 so much for your time, as always, my friend, thank 1258 01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.640 you all right, God bless We continue on the nightcap 1259 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:25.840 right after this senatorial candidate, former congressman from Ohio and 1260 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.960 a very successful businessman in his own right, Jim Rineesi 1261 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.760 once again on the show Jim Good Evening. We had 1262 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:38.880 the news today the Jim Trussell, former Ohio state head coach, 1263 01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:42.800 has been named the new lieutenant governor under Mike DeWine. 1264 01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:47.680 And just get your thoughts on that real quickly. 1265 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.560 Gary, Gary, again, thanks for having me on. And it's 1266 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:53.079 an interesting turn of events. I mean, there have been 1267 01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.039 a lot of people as I travel the state that 1268 01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.640 have said they'd love to see Jim Trussell be the 1269 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:02.079 next governor. But I wasn't expecting this, and I'm sure 1270 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:04.239 a lot of your listeners weren't expecting it either. This 1271 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:07.760 actually moves him into a position that if he really 1272 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:09.520 did want to run for governor, he'd kind of be 1273 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.880 in the pole position in the sense of having a 1274 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.359 little on the job training for the next couple of years, 1275 01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.520 and at the same time getting to know the donors, 1276 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:21.800 a donor base and being able to get more acquainted 1277 01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:26.159 with that position in Ohio. So it's an interesting turn 1278 01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:32.279 of events and maybe what people wanted inside that Columbus beltwagh. 1279 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:35.720 It's a part of me, and I know that the 1280 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.079 ship sailed Jim, but part of me kind of as 1281 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.920 you mentioned, getting to know the donors in the donor base. 1282 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:48.119 American politics is so all about the money, even though 1283 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:52.159 Kamala Harris spent twice as much as Donald Trump and 1284 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:56.920 to no avail. You got to have the money obviously 1285 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:01.039 to make an impact and to make a successful run. 1286 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.199 But it's kind of sad. It's not the way I 1287 01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:08.159 envisioned or maybe the what the founders had in mind. 1288 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.600 Is there way too much money in our politics in 1289 01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:12.560 this country today. 1290 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.640 Well, I do believe there is. And it's sad because 1291 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.279 good people can't win. And I know they get mad 1292 01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:21.640 when I say this, because they'll say, oh, they'll pick 1293 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:24.479 one person here or one person there that's been able 1294 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:27.399 to win with you know, a shock or race, but 1295 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:29.840 they're few and far between. And let's face it, what 1296 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.800 you really need is name id, money and a message. 1297 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.239 And that's what Kamala Harris didn't have, believe it or not, 1298 01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:38.720 a lot of people didn't know who she was. They 1299 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.159 didn't know what her message was. She had some name id. 1300 01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:43.640 That really hurt her. 1301 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.039 Everybody knows who President Trump is, they know what his 1302 01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:50.880 message was, and he had the money, so it became apparent. 1303 01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:52.800 Those are the kind of things you need to win 1304 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:57.960 in politics. But it also stops that person who's probably 1305 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.279 in many cases, and I'm talking about President Trump when 1306 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:03.720 I say this, but in many cases that it's more 1307 01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:09.000 qualified than the person with money, message or name id 1308 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:11.199 from really getting in and winning. 1309 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:11.960 Well. 1310 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.840 When the Supreme Court ruled that corporations were people or 1311 01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:18.520 you know that the ruling that said that, you know, 1312 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:22.520 as far as campaign donations went. What I have a 1313 01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.800 hard time with as well, is the money that comes 1314 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.720 in for out of from out of state for a 1315 01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.199 state race. There is so much what they call dark 1316 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:37.159 money that you know, it's like the old fashioned carpet 1317 01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:41.079 bagging we had after the Civil War in this country, 1318 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.600 but we have so much money flooding in from outside 1319 01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.680 the sphere of influence where people are actually voting and 1320 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.520 what affects their lives, And I don't know if there's 1321 01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:53.600 any way to address that ultimately. 1322 01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:58.199 Well, and you're exactly right, and in many cases it's 1323 01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.600 coming from outside the And look, you can't compete anymore 1324 01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:05.880 in a Senate race unless you get money outside the state. 1325 01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:08.880 It's one of the reasons why we ended up having 1326 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:13.640 Bernie Marino and Sharon Brown spending a tremendous amount of money, 1327 01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:18.199 all coming from out of state trying to attempt to 1328 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:23.199 decide who the next Ohio Senator was versus the Ohio 1329 01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:26.359 money really was not enough, And in many cases, the 1330 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:31.039 Ohio money is not enough to actually win a governor's 1331 01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:33.439 race or a Senate race. You have to have influence 1332 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:36.319 from the outside because there is so much money coming 1333 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.479 in from the outside, and a lot of that does 1334 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:41.199 come down to the special interest and the money that's 1335 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.199 now allowed to be spent by corporations and outside interests. 1336 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.600 The question is, why do you need to spend all 1337 01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.680 that money on a campaign for a job that's only 1338 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:54.479 going to net you what one hundred and eighty thousand 1339 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.920 dollars a year or whatever the total is for a 1340 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:05.119 state rep or a US Senator. The salary is not 1341 01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:11.359 what makes these people wealthy beyond their current means. Where 1342 01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:12.800 does that money come from? 1343 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.239 Yeah, and it ends up being power. 1344 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.920 It's the power. It's the want for the power. It's 1345 01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:20.760 the want to be able to fly around and go 1346 01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.640 to the super Bowl as the US senator. Remember, every 1347 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.600 US Senator, every governor probably could have got an instant 1348 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.439 walk into this super Bowl. I was thinking about that 1349 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:34.319 last night. I was watching all these political people going 1350 01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:36.359 to the super Bowl, and I think those are the 1351 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:39.039 kind of things that are important to a lot of 1352 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:42.119 people that already have money, but they don't have that 1353 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:47.159 ability to just walk right into many places. And I 1354 01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:51.000 think that's what drives people in many cases to wanting 1355 01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:54.840 these jobs. It's it's not actually to serve. It's about 1356 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:56.880 the power that it comes with it. 1357 01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.239 And by the way, why do you need money. I'll 1358 01:21:59.239 --> 01:21:59.840 tell you an interest. 1359 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.680 When I ran against Sharon Brown in twenty eighteen, he 1360 01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:06.520 put out an advertisement that Jim Ornacy was flying around 1361 01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:08.760 in a corporate jet with a strip club owner, and 1362 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:12.119 I don't forget that an absolute lie. And I filed 1363 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:16.199 a case against him and I lost. And what the 1364 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.880 ruling came back was that because I'm a public figure, 1365 01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:22.520 anybody can say anything about me they want to say 1366 01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:25.439 about me. And my response to the judge in that. 1367 01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:28.000 Case was, are you kidding me? So how am I. 1368 01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:30.239 Supposed to defend against the lie? And I never forget 1369 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.119 The answer was, you need to have enough money to 1370 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:37.520 defend against the lie. And I think that's why money 1371 01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:40.079 becomes a significant issue in politics. 1372 01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.840 Well, I remember the claims made against Bernie Marino when 1373 01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:46.880 he was running against Shared Brown, and Marino was successful 1374 01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:51.000 in that race, as you know, for the Senate seat. 1375 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:56.960 But apparently Marino had enough money to fend off whatever 1376 01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.319 was being said about him, whether it was true or not. 1377 01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:06.560 And you noticed that Donald Trump is either winning these 1378 01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:12.000 defamation lawsuitcases against these media outlets or they are settling 1379 01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:16.520 quickly for things that were said that were untrue about 1380 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:20.520 the president. So I mean, you can battle that these 1381 01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.520 things even if you're a public person. Obviously, well of course. 1382 01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:27.720 But here's a response to that, because I remember talking 1383 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.600 to my attorney, you can lie, you just can't lie 1384 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:34.479 ball And what Donald Trump is doing is he's fighting 1385 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:39.319 off libel cases, not lies, which is very interesting and 1386 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:41.000 by the way. When it comes to Bernie, I got 1387 01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:43.439 to give him a lot of credit. He picked the 1388 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:46.119 right year because he did have a lot of money, 1389 01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.319 but he only won by three and a half points, 1390 01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.600 and Trump actually won by twelve. So it tells you 1391 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:56.279 that if you were a candidate that was running in 1392 01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:59.359 a year with Trump and you were a Trump person, 1393 01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:01.119 you were going to be carried by Trump in a 1394 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.319 lot of ways. And I give him credit for that. 1395 01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:07.720 He was successfully able to be able to do that. 1396 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:11.119 And many people even said that if Trump only one 1397 01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:12.920 by eight, Bernie would have been a little bit of 1398 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.760 trouble because Shared was spending a lot of money as 1399 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:17.399 well against Bernie Marino. 1400 01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:21.960 There's no question about that. But I also, through years 1401 01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:25.920 of just observation, noticed that it's you talked about the 1402 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.520 power that you have as a US senator or an 1403 01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:34.159 entrenched incumbent even in the House, but it is very 1404 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:39.760 difficult to unseat an incumbent senator. They're one of the 1405 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:46.279 most one hundred powerful people in our government. And it's 1406 01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.239 it's a trick to unseat an incumbent senator, is it not. 1407 01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:52.199 Well, I'll tell you one thing, and I used to 1408 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:55.319 say this, it's a it's very difficult to unseat unseat 1409 01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:59.279 any incumbany. In fact, ninety seven percent, that's how strong 1410 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:03.039 that statistics of incumbents, whether it's the governor, whether it's 1411 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:08.359 a congressional or incumbent, whether it's a senator, ninety seven 1412 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:12.039 percent win reelections. And they win reelections because they have 1413 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:15.000 name I D. Money and they have a staff, so 1414 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:20.359 they can upend anybody trying to run against them. Because remember, 1415 01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:25.319 you can travel around the state, whether you're a senator, governor, 1416 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.239 even a lieutenant governor. And I think that's one of 1417 01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.000 the things John houstaid was doing. You can travel around 1418 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:33.039 the state with a full staff and a full complement 1419 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:36.760 of people and talk about things where somebody running against 1420 01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:40.159 an incumbent has no staff, has to use their own money, 1421 01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:42.520 and has to travel on the street and build their 1422 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:46.039 own name ID. So it becomes extremely difficult. But it's 1423 01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:49.760 actually ninety seven percent of incumbents do get reelected. 1424 01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:53.159 Wow, if you will indulge me just for I'm going 1425 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:54.920 to take a quick break and come back and we're 1426 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:59.079 going to talk doge Okay, sounds good. Jim Ornacy with 1427 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.319 a son that I can back in just a moment 1428 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:05.479 about wasteful spending in every facet of our federal government, 1429 01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:09.359 with how that's going and what he thinks of the 1430 01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:14.079 whole plan with Elon Musk and the kid named Big 1431 01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:19.880 Balls in there forensically examinating the budgets of all these things, 1432 01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:23.920 not just USAID, but all levels of federal government. Department 1433 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:29.239 of Education, Jim Ornacy rejoins US now and Jim, when 1434 01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.159 you heard about this, did you think that it was 1435 01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.199 going to net any kind of positive results for the 1436 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:36.279 American taxpayer? 1437 01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:40.319 Number one, Well, here's what I would tell you. 1438 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:45.560 Past presidents, even President Reagan has said, we are wasting spending. 1439 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.119 We have a lot of spending that needs to be cut. 1440 01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.560 Even when I was in Congress for eight years, we 1441 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:55.800 talked about it, we vetted it, we listed it. The 1442 01:26:55.880 --> 01:27:00.319 problem was without a law for getting a tough and 1443 01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.920 without Congress passing a budget or their appropriations bills, it 1444 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.119 was almost impossible. Because you have these agencies. A lot 1445 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:11.119 of people don't understand these These agencies are independent, so 1446 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:15.680 they get so much money, and unless the House and 1447 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:19.039 the Senate passes a budget and passes appropriation bills, it 1448 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:21.479 says we're only going to give you so much money 1449 01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:23.239 and its only can only be spent for the X, 1450 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:27.199 Y and Z. They have full authority to spend on 1451 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:28.159 what they want to do. 1452 01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:29.760 So we knew about it. 1453 01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.720 I think President Trump knew about it in seventeen, eighteen, 1454 01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:37.600 nineteen and twenty his first term. But he also ran 1455 01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:43.520 into what we all ran into, which is the order 1456 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:47.680 that was passed many, many years ago, which said that 1457 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.560 it's called the Poundment Control Act, which basically said a 1458 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:58.000 president could not cut what Congress has authorized. And in 1459 01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:02.760 twenty seventeen, President Trump started down this path and he 1460 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:07.560 got stopped very quickly by the Government Accounting Office, who 1461 01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.720 said it violated the law. Now he didn't take it further. 1462 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.159 But I think one thing this president did, and I 1463 01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:14.800 applaud him for it, is he said, you know what, 1464 01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.840 if I get back in I'm not going to care. 1465 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:20.760 I'm going to do what's necessary. I'm going to cut 1466 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.720 the waste full spending. And that's what he's doing now. 1467 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:26.199 Whether it's lawful or not, I think it's going to 1468 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.159 take the test of time and probably the Supreme Court 1469 01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:34.399 to determine that. But that Empowerment Act was established so 1470 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.760 that presidents could not cut funding spent that was spent 1471 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.039 that was approved by Congress, and I think that's really 1472 01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.439 going to be the uphill battle for this president. 1473 01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:48.439 Well by pointing out the obvious waste in some of 1474 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:52.479 the ridiculousness that's been going on at these federal late 1475 01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:56.039 I saw a report over the weekend that an NGO 1476 01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:04.279 that was curated by Chelsea Clinton helping to feed poor people. 1477 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:06.960 This is US tax dollars that are going to this 1478 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:12.560 non governmental organization and NGO it was costing fourteen hundred 1479 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.359 dollars a plate to feed people. I know the Freestore 1480 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.279 Food Bank claims that with every dollar they can feed 1481 01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:22.560 three people, So I don't know what they were feeding 1482 01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:24.960 them for fourteen hundred dollars a plate. And you wonder 1483 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.159 where the rest of the money was going, don't you? 1484 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.039 Or do you even have to wonder? 1485 01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:33.560 No, absolutely, I do believe that this is what the 1486 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:36.079 President's going to do. He's going to waken up the 1487 01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:40.399 American taxpayer. But who he wakens up the American taxpayer? 1488 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:44.880 So they waken up their congress member and their senator 1489 01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:48.000 to say, we're not going to accept this anymore, and 1490 01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:50.479 if you continue to do this, we're going to throw 1491 01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:53.199 you out. Because that's the key. This is the job 1492 01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.119 of our House members and our Senate members. This is 1493 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:58.840 the job of Congress. And this is where Congress has 1494 01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:03.079 felled the last forty years. We haven't Congress hasn't passed 1495 01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.439 a budget or appropriation bills for over twenty five years. 1496 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.119 And that's how you cut out this wasteful spending. But 1497 01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.239 they just don't do their job. And I was frustrated them. 1498 01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:14.199 I was there, I was a member of the budget committee. 1499 01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:17.720 We could not get anything passed, and if we did, 1500 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.439 it would go over to the Senate. I'll never forget 1501 01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:23.239 we threw three hundred and sixty to four hundred bills 1502 01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:25.800 over to the Senate a year, only for them to 1503 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.560 die where the Senate wouldn't pick them up. 1504 01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:33.159 Amazing, amazing. But I mean, isn't there some pocket lining 1505 01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:35.960 going on somewhere with this stuff? You said it's all 1506 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:39.159 about power and having the power of the purse spring 1507 01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:42.680 and the like. But I think there's some cash that 1508 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:47.159 is slipping through the cracks somewhere. I don't think that 1509 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:52.600 all twenty million dollars that was earmarked by USAID to 1510 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:56.800 produce a Sesame street show in Iraq went to that project. 1511 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.600 Do you to me a lot of foreign A I 1512 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.840 think as much as ninety percent of foreign eight is 1513 01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:05.880 money laundering, but that's my own personal view. 1514 01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:09.279 Well, look, I do think that foreign aid needs to 1515 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:11.800 be looked at, but that's not Here's what I don't 1516 01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:13.319 want people, especially your. 1517 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:14.199 Listeners, understand. 1518 01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:16.560 You can eliminate all the foreign aid, you still have 1519 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:19.239 a big deficit. I mean, until we look at the 1520 01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:24.079 real drivers of the debt. Foreign aid represents about forty 1521 01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.520 I think it's forty million dollars a year, which is 1522 01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:29.560 a big number for a lot of people, don't get 1523 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:33.600 me wrong. But at the same time, it's not going 1524 01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.800 to fix our debts and deficits. And we can't focus 1525 01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:39.279 on this little shiny thing over here and say, wow, 1526 01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:41.199 if we get rid of this, we're going to fix 1527 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:44.079 our government spending. We got to focus on the drivers 1528 01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:47.039 of the debt, which is much more difficult and nobody 1529 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:48.359 really wants to talk about. 1530 01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.760 Nobody really wants to talk about it or apparently do 1531 01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:57.640 anything about it. And you know what, maybe you don't 1532 01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.840 get to thirty six trillion in debt million a time, 1533 01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.520 but every drop in the bucket will eventually fill up 1534 01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:04.039 that bucket. 1535 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:08.159 Jim one hundred percent agree, one hundred percent agree. But remember, 1536 01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:12.079 for your listeners, we have record money coming into the treasury, 1537 01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:16.039 four point five trillion dollars coming in. We spend four 1538 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:19.840 point five trillion dollars on Medicare, Medicaid, SoC security, and interest. 1539 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:23.680 So we spend and then we have a then we 1540 01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.359 have a trillion and a half left over. That's our deficit. 1541 01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:29.000 Half of that goes to the military. So if you 1542 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:33.399 start looking at these numbers, yep, forty billion here might 1543 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:36.720 knock down a little bit. But in anything, we've got 1544 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:38.359 to look at what the drivers are, and a lot 1545 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:40.920 of it's waste fraud abuse. And by the way, some 1546 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:43.760 of that waste fraud abuses in Medicare, Medicaid. 1547 01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:44.560 And SOCID security as well. 1548 01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:47.600 We've got to start looking at those programs and digging 1549 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:49.600 out that waste fraud abuse as well well. 1550 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.439 President Trump is obviously pro military. Of recruitment has never 1551 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:57.920 been higher since the election because people are wanting to 1552 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.119 join our military again without all the d EI garbage 1553 01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:05.279 getting in the way of defending the nation. But President 1554 01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:08.239 Trump and Pete Haigseth, the new Secretary of Defense, they 1555 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:11.199 are more than willing to look at the abuse within 1556 01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:15.439 our Defense department, which is a large chunk of our 1557 01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:16.920 federal budget as well. 1558 01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:21.359 So another little thing for your listeners. When I was there, 1559 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:22.840 it's one of the reasons why I left, to be 1560 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.760 honest with you, I was so frustrated. The Department of 1561 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:30.439 Defense has never been audited. Nope, never been audited. And 1562 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:32.479 when I would talk about that and say, if you 1563 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:35.199 don't audit, how do you know what you're spending, people 1564 01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:37.840 would get mad at me. But it'll be interesting to see. 1565 01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:43.159 And I'm hoping the new Defense Secretary requires auditing because 1566 01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:44.079 that would be important. 1567 01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:46.359 Jim or Nacy, thank you so much for your time 1568 01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:49.079 this evening, and I hope we will have a chance 1569 01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:51.920 to talk again. Lots of good InFocus thank you as well, 1570 01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:54.479 you bet you, thank you. It's the nightcap on seven 1571 01:33:54.600 --> 01:34:00.840 hundred WLW And just for a good measure to close tonight, 1572 01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:05.399 Dennis Wildman Walker joins us. Who has got one question 1573 01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:09.000 for me or one demand of me? After the Super 1574 01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:13.319 Bowl outcome that saw my Chiefs lose in a pitiful 1575 01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:18.479 performance to the Philadelphia Eagles last night in New Orleans. 1576 01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:21.720 What was the demand or question that you had, wild Man? 1577 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.000 I want my dollar, I want my dollar. 1578 01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:27.880 And it wasn't a pittable performance. 1579 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.399 It was a and the words of Marty Brennaman on 1580 01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.560 old fashioned butt webbing handed down by the Eagles. 1581 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.119 The game was over at halftime. 1582 01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:39.359 At halftime, we'll get into all of that, sir, And 1583 01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:42.840 you're not wrong. It was an old fashioned butt women. 1584 01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:46.800 You know what, It reminded me of the Bear's victory 1585 01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:50.039 over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl in nineteen 1586 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:54.880 eighty six, when they had that incredible defense Singletary and 1587 01:34:54.920 --> 01:35:00.000 William Refrigerator, Perry, Jim McMahon at quarterback, Marshall yet Wilbur Marshall, 1588 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:04.159 Walter Payton. But that defense that they put on last 1589 01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:08.920 night looked so much like that vaunted Bears defense. Don't 1590 01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:12.399 you think that? Isn't that a good comparison? I like 1591 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:13.239 that comparison. 1592 01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:16.800 Six sacks, three turnovers, uh picked six? 1593 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:20.199 I mean the Eagles. I felt right from the start 1594 01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:21.640 in this matchup. 1595 01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:25.479 You know, came to fruition that the Eagles had, you know, 1596 01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:28.479 a person a better personnel across the board, and they 1597 01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:29.680 proved it. And they proved it. 1598 01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.479 I think they were the number one defensive team in football. 1599 01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:35.479 I think that part of that too was Nick Soriani 1600 01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:40.720 solving Andy Reid's Rubik's Cube, because a lot of a 1601 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.359 lot of other great coaches in the NFL with good 1602 01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:46.720 defenses haven't been able to solve the Andy Reid offense 1603 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.479 in Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes at the head. But 1604 01:35:49.840 --> 01:35:53.399 it's like they knew what they were running every time 1605 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:54.439 they snapped the ball. 1606 01:35:54.520 --> 01:36:00.279 Wild Man, it was amazing. Well, what can't you say? 1607 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.880 Forty to twenty two? The fly, eagles fly, and I 1608 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.439 want my dollar. Well, a couple of things here for you. 1609 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:10.199 We're not gonna spend it. Listen, listen, wild Man, You'll 1610 01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:12.439 get your dollar. We're not gonna spend the entire eighteen 1611 01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.840 nineteen twenty minutes whatever this is. You asking for a dollar, 1612 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.840 I understand You're gonna get your dollar. And it was 1613 01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:21.840 a gentleman's bet, and a gentleman doesn't ask, he just 1614 01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:24.720 expects it to come from another gentleman and it will, 1615 01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:29.640 believe me, Go, So, what what else you got? Well? 1616 01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.319 During the during the game, of course, I mean there's, 1617 01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:34.840 like I said, the pick six that I can't recall. 1618 01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:37.560 They recall a guy's name, but it was his birthday 1619 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:40.880 his birthday and he returns to pick six and the 1620 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:43.319 Super bowls here wash any better for that guy? 1621 01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:46.680 Wild Man? It was Cooper de Gene. He's a rookie. Yeah, Cooper, 1622 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:51.239 it was twenty second birthday, gets the pick six out 1623 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:55.159 of my homes. Yeah. And it was Sekwan Barkley's birthday too, 1624 01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:57.119 wasn't it that? 1625 01:36:57.279 --> 01:36:58.560 I don't know. 1626 01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:00.920 I don't know that I heard. I heard before the game. 1627 01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:05.119 Sekwan Barkley had a birthday too that coincided with this game. 1628 01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:08.840 So the Chiefs were the Chiefs were screwed from the beginning, 1629 01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:12.760 just from the birthday wish Aisle of the NFL. 1630 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:16.960 I think, oh, now you're reaching there. They got the screwed. 1631 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:17.600 They got out. 1632 01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:19.800 Played totally, you know, in all three phases of the game. 1633 01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:22.039 They got it played all three phases. How about how 1634 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:26.159 about one? Jake Elliott a former Bengals draft choice. The 1635 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.880 guy never played one down for the Cincinnati Bengals. He's 1636 01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:32.079 not listed on the old time roster because I looked 1637 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:34.600 it up. He was drafted in the fifth round in 1638 01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:38.479 twenty seventeen. He now has not one, but two Super 1639 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:40.319 Bowl rings with the Philadelphia Eagles. 1640 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:42.880 He had sixteen points in that game. 1641 01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:47.840 Well yeah, and he hadn't had a great season either 1642 01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:51.720 kicking the ball. But last night he was on. Every 1643 01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:52.640 time the day. 1644 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:54.079 Was on, he was on. 1645 01:37:55.399 --> 01:37:59.680 And the Eagles here's this, here's this, wild man. The 1646 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:05.439 Eagles committed an offensive motion penalty on both of those 1647 01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:08.119 two of the field goals that he kicked, and you 1648 01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:11.359 know which, it can be almost as unnerving for a 1649 01:38:11.479 --> 01:38:15.079 kicker as the other team called team calling a time 1650 01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:18.199 out right before you kick, so it takes out of rhythm. 1651 01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:22.119 And he was truer and longer with the follow up 1652 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:26.439 kick both times than he was with the original attempt. 1653 01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:30.640 So I mean, maybe maybe the Eagles did him a 1654 01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:34.279 favor by, you know, committing a motion penalty right before 1655 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:36.880 he was going to move him him back five years yards. 1656 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:39.600 It didn't seem to bother Jake Elliott at all last night. 1657 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:42.640 How did you watch the Did you watch the game 1658 01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:43.560 in its entirety? 1659 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:43.800 Sir? 1660 01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:48.520 I watched the game right up until it was it 1661 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.520 was forty to uh, it was forty to fourteen when 1662 01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:54.000 I went to bed, and then the Kansas City got 1663 01:38:54.079 --> 01:38:55.960 the excuse me touchdown, all. 1664 01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.079 Right, So then you must have missed. 1665 01:38:57.119 --> 01:38:59.600 You must have missed the most idiotic comment of the 1666 01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:02.279 whole Super Bowl by one Tom Brady with eight minutes 1667 01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:05.640 to go, quote, it ain't over till it's Ober with 1668 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:07.199 number fifteen on the field. 1669 01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:12.479 What you know what I did? I said that I 1670 01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:15.319 did see it. I did see it. I thought, well, Tom, 1671 01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.720 you're really really trying to builk the listeners out of 1672 01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:23.039 time that they could be spending otherwise, like reading their eyelids. 1673 01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:25.439 And I think it was right after he said that 1674 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:28.039 that I turned the TV off and went to bed 1675 01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:31.199 because there's no way you're coming back from forty to 1676 01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.640 fourteen in the fourth quarter with eight minutes left, and. 1677 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.159 To throw out the Yogi comment. Oh my god, Tom, 1678 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:39.960 you know that's the best you got. I mean, I 1679 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:42.720 liked the guy a lot, but that was just that 1680 01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.960 was the most idiotic comment of the night during the 1681 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:47.239 Super Bowl broadcast. 1682 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:47.960 It really was. 1683 01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:48.199 No. 1684 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:50.600 I didn't watch any of the halftime show. 1685 01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:52.560 I have no interest in that. Again, we are we're 1686 01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:54.520 going to save that. We're going to save that for 1687 01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:57.520 our second part of our conversation here. We got plenty 1688 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.239 of time to fill tonight. So sorry, i' again. 1689 01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:01.720 I got a couple other things I got to get 1690 01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:03.359 not off my chest, but I got to tell you so. 1691 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:08.720 Okay, So, but back to the MVP. You know, Jalen Hurts, 1692 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.399 he threw for two hundred and twenty one yards. I 1693 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.039 think that the MVP of that game was a Philadelphia defense, 1694 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:15.840 not not. 1695 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.439 For five super Bowl party that I went to agreed 1696 01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:20.479 with me. But we all know that we're going to 1697 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:22.159 give it to the quarterback. We just knew it was 1698 01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:24.439 gonna you know, had Barkley had a better game, he 1699 01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:27.640 would have got it. But I agree to give. 1700 01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:28.159 It to the defense. 1701 01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.239 And there's only been one defensive player I believe, maybe 1702 01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:33.520 maybe two. I think there's two maybe defensive players, and 1703 01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:35.439 one one went to a losing team one year. Was 1704 01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:39.640 the Chuck Howley of the Cowboys was the MVP and 1705 01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:43.560 the losing effort. I want to say Jake Scott maybe 1706 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.119 of the Miami Dolphins was that MVP. 1707 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.239 But yeah, I knew they were going to give it. 1708 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:52.399 Let's talk about sequon Barkley, because that's the one thing 1709 01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:55.159 that the Chiefs did effectively was pretty much shut him 1710 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:57.920 down for most of the game. They did, they really did. 1711 01:40:58.439 --> 01:41:02.279 He was not a factor in Philadelphia's scoring to the 1712 01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:06.560 point as far as what he did individually, but the 1713 01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:09.880 fact that they had to focus so much on shutting 1714 01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:12.600 Seguan Barkley down. He's such a weapon. He was like 1715 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:16.520 a decoy for Philadelphia's offense. That opened up that passing 1716 01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.520 game that allowed them, you know, to get those first 1717 01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.279 downs and that chunk yardage that they were able to 1718 01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:26.680 get through the air, which enabled Jaalen Hurts automatic, you know, 1719 01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:30.680 eventually to be MVP of the game. 1720 01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:35.359 But okay, the Chief coaching staff were, you know, seeing that, 1721 01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:38.279 you know, the chief Steve Fens where they could be attacked. 1722 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:42.159 But everybody was talking about how, you know, Sequon Barkley 1723 01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:45.920 if he ran rough shout, the Chiefs had no chance 1724 01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.479 of winning the game. And it wasn't Sequon Barkley, Knight. 1725 01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:52.760 It wasn't It was the defense. And uh and you know, 1726 01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:55.840 whatever Philadelphia could muster is a passing game because Kansas 1727 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:58.840 City's defense did not play a bad game, really, but 1728 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:04.319 their offense was so overshattered and overpowered by that Eagles defense. 1729 01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:08.039 There was literally no doubt daylight for Patrick Mahomes. And 1730 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:11.279 I don't blame Patrick Mahomes. You say they got outplayed, 1731 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:14.000 They just got out muscled on the front line and 1732 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:20.439 outworked and out coached. I thought that Nick Soreani ultimately 1733 01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:23.319 out coached Andy Reid. And that's not an easy thing 1734 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:26.399 to do. If you watch the NFL, is it, well. 1735 01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.279 When you get like two weeks to repair you'ren you 1736 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:32.119 can break down everything. And if the defense wins Super Bowls, 1737 01:42:32.119 --> 01:42:34.800 I don't care what they say. Defense wins Super Bowls 1738 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:37.319 and that Eagles, like you said and I said, they 1739 01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:42.119 should all jointly been given the MVP Award, no question, 1740 01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.880 because the front the Chiefs front line had no answer 1741 01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:47.800 for the pass rush. 1742 01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:49.319 They had no answer at all. 1743 01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:51.680 I mean, Mahomes was under pressure all. 1744 01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:54.399 In all day. I mean again, six sacks. 1745 01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:57.680 When's the last time you heard Mahomes get sacked six times? 1746 01:42:58.000 --> 01:42:58.239 No? 1747 01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:01.560 I mean, and he was. He was on his butt 1748 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.319 more on the field than he was when he was 1749 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:07.039 sitting on the bench. Wild man. It was crazy, you know. 1750 01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:11.720 And again for me as a Chiefs fan, I knew 1751 01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:14.600 it was possible that it would happen, but I thought 1752 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.199 that the Chiefs would, you know, do what they'd done 1753 01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:19.520 all season long and at the end of the game 1754 01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.079 just be one or two points better than their opponents, 1755 01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:24.560 not a chance of that happening when it was twenty 1756 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:25.760 four to nothing at halftime. 1757 01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:29.359 Well, you know the guy who's probably the most upset 1758 01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:33.199 about the Chiefs loss, not Andy Reid and not Patrick Mahomes, 1759 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:34.880 not Travis Kelce. You know the guy's probably the most 1760 01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:38.840 upset about Who's that pat Riley? Because he had made 1761 01:43:38.840 --> 01:43:43.000 millions of dollars over the three peat thing. He'd have 1762 01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:44.279 made millions of dollars. 1763 01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:46.720 You're right, because he's got the trademark on that slogan. 1764 01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:49.239 Yeah, he had already worked out a deal with the Chiefs. 1765 01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:54.239 Oh Man, poor Patty. I don't feel bad for pat 1766 01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:58.079 Riley and tonight, I'm sorry, I just don't. I can't 1767 01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:00.960 work myself up to it. We'll talk halftime show and 1768 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.680 some other things that wild Man says he's got to 1769 01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:05.800 get off his chest, or he wants to say. Of course, 1770 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:11.079 today was day one of pitchers and catchers reporting in Goodyear, 1771 01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:13.439 Arizona for this your Cincinnati Reds. 1772 01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.199 And I don't know if Francona was there first before 1773 01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:18.239 any of them, waiting on him, waiting on him. 1774 01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:22.079 Hey, yeah, we'll get to it. Wild Man on the Nightcap, 1775 01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:26.520 Part two, coming up on seven hundred WLW number one 1776 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.840 the halftime show. I hadn't had any plans to watch it, 1777 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.560 nor did we watch it at home when it occurred. 1778 01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:36.279 I don't hate Kendrick Lamar. I barely know who he 1779 01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:38.880 is other than he's got a long running feud with 1780 01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:41.479 Drake and that's what he's built his career on and 1781 01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:46.720 all those Grammy awards. Sizza, I'm told has an excellent voice, 1782 01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:49.800 but I didn't tune in to hear Sizza or Kendrick 1783 01:44:49.880 --> 01:44:51.760 at halftime. What about you? 1784 01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:56.640 I might put it this way, everybody at the Super 1785 01:44:56.640 --> 01:45:00.079 Bowl party I was at had their backs turn and 1786 01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.359 and the and the sound down during the halftime show. 1787 01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:05.039 Nobody had any interest in all of that. 1788 01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:06.960 What is his name, Kendrick? 1789 01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.439 You said it was name ken Kendrick Lamar. 1790 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:12.199 He could walk in here right now in my house 1791 01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:13.840 and I wouldn't know who he was. You know that 1792 01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:15.800 that music is not that's not music. 1793 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:16.199 I don't know. 1794 01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:18.039 I think he keeps trying to tell you that it is. 1795 01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:20.600 It's not music. I don't listen to that kind of crap. 1796 01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:22.520 I never have listened to that kind of stuff, But 1797 01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:24.920 I have no interest in it whatsoever. I wish we 1798 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.600 would have seen the I heard somebody got one of 1799 01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.720 the performers, you got on the field, it was part 1800 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:33.840 of the performers, and whipped out a stupid. 1801 01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.920 Flag of the palace, Titian flag, Tennian flag. 1802 01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:38.680 Yeah, what an idiot. 1803 01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:42.079 Well, I would think that security would be tighter than 1804 01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:45.159 that at a Super Bowl, especially in New Orleans, especially 1805 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:49.479 with what happened, you know on New Year's there. 1806 01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:51.560 Well, we had a tucked up on her shirt. 1807 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:55.079 What they said, you know whatever on her shirt. Yeah. 1808 01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:58.439 You know, if you're allowing someone on the field at 1809 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:01.359 halftime of the Super Bowl, you got to know and 1810 01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:04.560 vet them and find out, you know, what they've got 1811 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.319 with them, because unless it's the costume that goes with 1812 01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:12.479 the performance, then they shouldn't be out there at all. Period. 1813 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:14.319 I got to tell you this story. This goes back 1814 01:46:14.359 --> 01:46:17.119 into like the early eighties when the Reds were floundering 1815 01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:20.840 under the leadership of the Great and One general manager 1816 01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:23.439 Dick Wagner, and they they used to have banner Day 1817 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:26.159 at the ballpark and people would parade on the field 1818 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:27.319 with banners and theyre saying go. 1819 01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:28.520 Reds, blah blah blah. 1820 01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.399 Well, these two guys are on the field of the 1821 01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:32.840 banner and it said something about go Reds. But when 1822 01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:34.720 they got right near home plate, they flipped it over 1823 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:36.399 and it said fire Wagner. 1824 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:39.119 Well it was all. 1825 01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:39.760 It was great. 1826 01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:40.000 You know. 1827 01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:42.880 Of course they didn't check the banners. You know, nobody 1828 01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:44.560 did the check into the banner. You know, somebody got 1829 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:46.479 the axe on that. But when they flipped it over 1830 01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:49.720 and it said fire Wagner, that stadium, the few people 1831 01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:52.880 that were there, because they all hated Wagner place, that erupted. 1832 01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:57.079 Believe me, the security at this Super Bowl surpassed probably 1833 01:46:57.079 --> 01:47:01.520 secured at any super Bowl in the past, all fifty 1834 01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:04.479 eight before him, because you know what number forty seven 1835 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:07.920 was there. President Trump was there, the first president, the 1836 01:47:07.960 --> 01:47:11.880 first president to ever attend a Super Bowl game in person. 1837 01:47:12.399 --> 01:47:15.159 And it was marvelous to see him and the family 1838 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:18.840 saluting during the national anthem. And you noticed during the 1839 01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:22.960 national anthem, which people always cheer at the end, Land 1840 01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:25.359 of the Free and Home of the Brave, the second 1841 01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:28.439 they showed Trump on the big screen and that stadium 1842 01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:32.199 in the super doom, the crowd just erupted with cheers 1843 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:33.880 at the site of President Trump. 1844 01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:36.680 It was a good game and he was saluting. He 1845 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:39.239 was saluting the national Yes he was. 1846 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:40.399 It was a good night. 1847 01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:43.840 Speaking of the celebrities, because I almost forgot about this. 1848 01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.680 They showed a number of celebrities. I don't know if 1849 01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:48.680 you know this or not, but they showed the number, 1850 01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:50.319 and they showed Sir Paul McCartney. 1851 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:52.720 Okay, now, somebody been doing their homework. 1852 01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:56.560 Carry Jeff. They would immediately said, Sir Paul McCartney. They 1853 01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.439 would immediately would have said. Sixty two years ago to 1854 01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:02.520 the day the Beatles played The Ed Sullivan Show for 1855 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:07.039 the first time. You're right, yeah, so somebody dropped. 1856 01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:12.359 The ball there. February ninth, nineteen sixty four is when exactly, 1857 01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:18.279 So it was sixty one years Yeah, this is two 1858 01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:22.560 twenty twenty five, So sixty one years exactly since the 1859 01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:26.760 Beatles' first appearance on American television, when seventy seven million 1860 01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:29.640 people tuned in, and I was surprised. 1861 01:48:29.319 --> 01:48:31.520 Major crime was reported in New York City. 1862 01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:35.520 I know, I know, and it kind of harkened back. 1863 01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:37.560 Somebody should have been on the ball, even after you know, 1864 01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:40.479 ten seconds, fifteen seconds lay, they should have brought that up. 1865 01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:44.960 Well, I mean, not everybody are huge Beatles fans or 1866 01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:49.279 even huge music fans. If you've got Kendrick Lamar doing 1867 01:48:49.319 --> 01:48:53.199 the halftime show at the Super Bowl. 1868 01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:53.920 I couldn't tell about the crowd that they showed by. 1869 01:48:53.960 --> 01:48:55.279 They showed Paul Dussel for TeV. 1870 01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:55.840 You know. 1871 01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:59.479 You know what we watched instead of Kendrick Lamar at halftime? 1872 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:03.439 What ancient Aliens on the History Channel? 1873 01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:03.800 Oh? 1874 01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:05.640 I figured I thought you were gonna say Gomer Pyle 1875 01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:06.720 or a Batman. 1876 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:10.760 No, I'm not you, but yeah, I found ancient Aliens 1877 01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:12.760 on the History Channel and we watched that, and I 1878 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.119 just kept checking back and said, no, he's still doing 1879 01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:17.640 Oh my god, he's still He's still going on and 1880 01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:20.199 on and on with something I don't care about. But 1881 01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:22.439 you know, I don't know. I don't I don't complain 1882 01:49:22.520 --> 01:49:24.800 about that. I just don't care about it, you know 1883 01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:25.199 what I mean. 1884 01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:26.159 I'm not with you. 1885 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:27.760 I don't care about it. They have to have some 1886 01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:30.119 kind of halftime show, but I don't care about that 1887 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:32.399 for that kind of that kind of all that stupid 1888 01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:33.119 dancing or. 1889 01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:36.479 Whatever they're there. Now, do you think music does nothing 1890 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:38.800 for me? Wild wild man? Did you think that the 1891 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:41.600 Prince halftime show a few years back was great? I 1892 01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:42.479 did everybody on. 1893 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:44.199 Talking to that either I don't. 1894 01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.159 I don't. I never liked Prince music. I mean, but 1895 01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:48.560 I've worked for a rock station. We didn't play that stuff. 1896 01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:51.960 You know, the guy was a major talent. But I 1897 01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:54.319 had no desire to watch that. I think some of 1898 01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:56.520 the people at the super Bowl party that year did 1899 01:49:56.600 --> 01:49:58.520 watch it, but I have no desire to watch it. 1900 01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:00.359 I had no desire intro. 1901 01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:02.720 And since you don't know, Prince was a little bit 1902 01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:07.600 rock and roll wild man, he may may stop. 1903 01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:11.520 W B never played Prince ever ever. 1904 01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.399 Ever, that's sad. That's really not sad. 1905 01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:17.039 He's not rock and roll. 1906 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:19.520 Come on, come on, man. 1907 01:50:19.479 --> 01:50:22.800 Yeah, play play play Stairway to Heaven by led Zeppelin 1908 01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:26.680 one more time. All right, hold on, you said the. 1909 01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:27.800 Song has to be banned. 1910 01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:30.720 So here you have some other things you said you 1911 01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:33.960 wanted to get to and talk about before we're done. 1912 01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:35.479 Well, yeah, you just when you mentioned it right before 1913 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:37.960 the break about you know, today the Reds Pictures and 1914 01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:41.159 Catchers reported first workout I believe is Wednesday for the 1915 01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:44.439 pitchers and then the uh, the regular show up I 1916 01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:46.199 think on Friday, and they'll get the full work and 1917 01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:47.039 get get rolling. 1918 01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:47.319 Here. 1919 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:50.560 Terry Francona was there, was there first to meet the 1920 01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:54.680 pictures and the catchers. Today it was uh, it was 1921 01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:57.279 announced early in the day from the Reds that they're 1922 01:50:57.279 --> 01:51:00.079 going to honor the hit king Pete Rose with the 1923 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:03.079 number fourteen patch on their sleeve of their jerseys. 1924 01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:04.840 Here's the problem with that. 1925 01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:06.520 That's a big old dog because I knew they were 1926 01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:08.119 going to do that. Everyboy actually like it's a big deal. 1927 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:09.279 But that was a big old due. 1928 01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:12.079 You will not be able to buy a fourteen patch 1929 01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:16.119 at the Red Store. A great American ballpark. You cannot 1930 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:19.560 buy a Pee Rose jersey at the Red Store. A 1931 01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:21.159 great American ballpark. 1932 01:51:22.279 --> 01:51:25.000 Is this part of the band by Major League gas Ball. 1933 01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:27.279 That's League Baseball. When I allowed the Reds and so 1934 01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:31.880 any p Rose items of any kind, anything buttons, anything, nothing, zero, 1935 01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:36.279 you cannot buy anything Peter Rose related in the Red Store. Now, 1936 01:51:36.279 --> 01:51:38.159 if you want a fourteen patch, you probably get it 1937 01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:40.800 from Cooks because they carry everything. If you want a jersey, 1938 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.479 you go to Cooks, you go to Fanatics, or during 1939 01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:45.760 game days you can buy jerseys and probably the fourteen 1940 01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:48.399 patches from vendors on the street. That's just so petty, 1941 01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:52.199 just so Petty And I've saw people on Facebook saying 1942 01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:54.840 did Major League Baseball give the approval? I don't give 1943 01:51:54.840 --> 01:51:57.640 a damn if they give you approval or not. Bob 1944 01:51:57.720 --> 01:51:59.760 GASLNA told me to go pound salt for doing it. 1945 01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:03.279 Any way, Yeah, that would be But see, this is 1946 01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:07.079 what I'm confused by, wild Man. It was always a 1947 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:11.640 lifetime ban. Pete is no longer with us. The Reds 1948 01:52:11.640 --> 01:52:14.760 players are gonna be wearing the patch on their uniforms. 1949 01:52:14.760 --> 01:52:16.600 What's MLB saying about that? 1950 01:52:18.239 --> 01:52:21.000 Well, I imagine they had to get permission, just the 1951 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.319 way that Major League Baseball works, but major because Major 1952 01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:28.399 League Baseball approved for them to hold the ceremony down 1953 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:31.920 there for Pete for the funeral ceremony, they asked permission 1954 01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:32.239 for that. 1955 01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:37.119 Well, a lifetime ban, i'd say, would be over if 1956 01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:38.560 you're no longer alive. 1957 01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:40.720 I think if you took it to a higher court 1958 01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:42.640 with some attorneys, yeah, you'd get. 1959 01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.800 That ruling, you would, all right. Well, but like I. 1960 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:48.279 Said, the port the fourteen patch, you're not gonna be 1961 01:52:48.279 --> 01:52:50.199 buying it at the ballpark, and you're not gonna you 1962 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.119 can't buy a Pete Rose jersey at the ballpark. 1963 01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:53.720 Well, if you're a Reds fan and you want to 1964 01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:55.720 dress like a red You're gonna have to go get 1965 01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:56.960 your fourteen patch somewhere. 1966 01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:59.840 And I hope that the Cooks they got everything Coaks 1967 01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.039 Fourth Street, they got it all. 1968 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:04.680 Are you getting money from Cooks for mentioning their name 1969 01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:05.279 for time? 1970 01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:07.680 Those guys for years? I've not those guys for years. 1971 01:53:07.960 --> 01:53:10.000 You know, when the Bengals, when the Bengals needed, when 1972 01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.960 the Reds need a jerky, like a player comes to town. Yeah, 1973 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.239 Cooks of Cooks are the ones that put they stitching 1974 01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:16.000 on the jerseys. 1975 01:53:16.159 --> 01:53:17.840 Oh how about that? I didn't I didn't know that. 1976 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:20.239 Yeah, well, so you learn something today. 1977 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:22.279 I was I was going to say Rally House, but 1978 01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:24.680 apparently you're getting paid by Cooks to mention their name 1979 01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:26.279 on my show. 1980 01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:27.920 I've bought some stuff at rally House. 1981 01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:32.199 So yeah, okay, Uh, anything else in our last minute? 1982 01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:34.600 Any other closing thoughts that you have? 1983 01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:37.920 Oh well, let's it's baseball season now, so let's get 1984 01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:40.880 fired up for a baseball season. I mean, the NBA 1985 01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:44.239 playoffs are not not far away. The NHL is doing 1986 01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:47.760 a kind of a Nation's tournament getting ready to start, 1987 01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:49.680 and instead of the All Star game. It's kind of 1988 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:51.479 like supposed to be an All Star game, but yeah, 1989 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:54.960 it's like a four nation tournament and the college basketball 1990 01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:56.119 you know. 1991 01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:01.199 We're we're heading into the hard and hom stretch, you know. 1992 01:54:01.439 --> 01:54:04.039 So yeah, I mean, is gonna have a hard time. 1993 01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:07.680 I don't know what they they just played so bad 1994 01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:11.640 the other night against Villanova. I think I'm hoping that 1995 01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:15.039 the Bearcats as a team got together after that lost 1996 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:17.680 to West Virginia and said, you know what, we're gonna, 1997 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:19.760 We're gonna we're gonna start playing a little bit different here. 1998 01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:21.720 And they really looked good the last two games. 1999 01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:26.239 But they look they look great against the b YU 2000 01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:28.560 on Saturday. They really, Yeah, but that's. 2001 01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:30.880 Gonna it's gonna so much. Gonna take the Vine intervention 2002 01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:31.239 for them. 2003 01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:33.880 Oh here's one thing to leave you with, wild Man, 2004 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:37.840 since you are so hateful of Columbus in Ohio state, 2005 01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.520 Jim Tressel is now the lieutenant governor of the state 2006 01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:44.279 of Ohio. He's your lieutenant governor, wild Man. What do 2007 01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:45.039 you think about that? 2008 01:54:46.199 --> 01:54:48.199 You know what, And I'm not gonna believe this. I 2009 01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:51.720 really like Jim Tressel because how he how he made 2010 01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:54.119 it to the top. But here's the guy. Didn't he 2011 01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:56.479 have some kind of big scandal there at Ohio State. 2012 01:54:56.680 --> 01:54:58.800 Yeah, well they're a big scandal. I don't remember what 2013 01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:00.840 it was, but yeah, there was some scandal on. 2014 01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:04.439 Yeah, yeah, but hey what that's uh, that's who the 2015 01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:05.640 governor wants. He canna have it. 2016 01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:08.800 I could care less, all right, wild man, thank you 2017 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.760 for your time. And as Willy would say, thank you 2018 01:55:11.800 --> 01:55:14.399 for your love and your lust, wild man. 2019 01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:17.319 And oh my lust always, and get those fourteen patches 2020 01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:17.760 of cooks. 2021 01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:18.680 And I want my dollar. 2022 01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:22.279 You're gonna get your damn dollar, all right, stop my dollar. 2023 01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:26.000 Stop it yet, I'll nail it to you in pennies. 2024 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.680 Hey, don't make me set Roco with moos over to 2025 01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:29.399 get my dollar. 2026 01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:33.239 I got my own. I got my own Roco Costellano. 2027 01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:35.960 He can, he can match up to your bodyguards any day. 2028 01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:39.239 Your dollars on the way, I go, your your dollars 2029 01:55:39.279 --> 01:55:43.119 on the way, wild man, Thank you, God bless Uh. 2030 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:46.239 That's it, and we conclude with our national anthem to 2031 01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:51.319 honor America. The Star Spangled Banner plays again on seven 2032 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:52.520 hundred W LW