WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:05.160 How are you dog doll? 2 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:19.239 Line four? There got eight up damn doll? Are you ye? 3 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:22.440 Dog doll? 4 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:28.399 Line four? There got eight up damn dolls? 5 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.280 Are she? 6 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.240 Are you laugh? 7 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:45.560 Not at old land? 8 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:54.320 He's stip in the map set little forty. 9 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:56.920 S arg she. 10 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:07.799 Like at an't land bast don't ass and stream where. 11 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:10.719 The kenny got up? 12 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:12.640 How are you be s. 13 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:15.280 A? 14 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.680 Are you best looking to listen to the lens? 15 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:20.879 Alright? 16 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:27.879 Fine height? Lazy stustom? Are you letting be come you clips? 17 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:37.439 How are you don't don't sit? How are you fine? 18 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:39.159 Lazy stustom? 19 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.879 Let it be color on the clips? 20 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:49.120 Are your stream? Where the kenny got up? How are you? 21 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:57.120 Are you white? And shin't so sweet? Are you? 22 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.799 How are you sure work all? 23 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:10.560 Will it become a clashed at pension pastors? Like eighty 24 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.680 eight to the optic nerve is now boarding gate seventeen 25 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:16.599 scheduled to the park at nine thirty am. 26 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.360 Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got a 27 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.439 bunch of us with us tonight talking about mercury symbolism. 28 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:31.400 I got myself, obviously the nick from the Occult Rejects. 29 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.520 I got Lisa, the mad scientist cult reject I got 30 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.800 my man Jin the Ninja what is going on? And 31 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.080 I got Ethan Indi Indigo, I got Tej, I got 32 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.840 Headless Giant, and I got the O g himself, Robbie Marx. 33 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.080 All of their links are in the bottom to find 34 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.240 all of their amazing work, which I highly suggest to 35 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.080 please go check out. You may like hearing them on 36 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.199 this show. I highly suggest to go listen to their 37 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.080 own words on their own shows and all this stuff. 38 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.000 It's something to listen to or I highly suggest it. 39 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.960 And tonight we got again as usual, we got the 40 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:11.039 Tarot Man himself and somebody I just love learning with 41 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.800 or learning from, somebody I will definitely have to say 42 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:18.800 has probably impacted my magical journey in some way, believe 43 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.080 it or not. So I appreciate it, Mario, and I 44 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:25.039 appreciate you constantly coming back and working with us. Please 45 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.719 let everybody know, in case there's new listeners, what the 46 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:29.240 deal is with you and what's up? 47 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:31.319 Yeah, for sure, what's up? 48 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:31.520 Man? 49 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.199 No, thanks for the invite, And I really appreciate the 50 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.199 crew you've put together here. I really do get a 51 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.240 lot out of everyone's insights and stuff. And you know, 52 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:43.280 even when I'm not on the show, I listen and 53 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.719 check out what's going on and stuff like that. But 54 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.360 Symbolic Studies is my project. Symbolic Studies dot com. People 55 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.759 can find all of my offerings there. I'm on YouTube 56 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.360 and Patreon and Instagram and things like that, so I 57 00:03:56.439 --> 00:04:00.800 do offer terrat readings and other services too, But my 58 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:01.680 foundation is. 59 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:02.520 Really the tarot. 60 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.800 And from there, you know, I got really into astrology 61 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:10.439 and just uncovering the symbolic nature of every sign. So 62 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.639 I put out content based on the signs during each 63 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:19.720 sign itself, following the Tropical you know, the Tropical calendar basically, 64 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.439 So yeah, that's my deal. And Mercury, man, it is 65 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.720 really a heavy hitter with the planets, you know, A 66 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:31.720 favorite character for sure, right, I mean, it's one of 67 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.680 these things actually where if there's like a planet that's 68 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:39.439 worthy of many multiple episodes, it would be Mercury. And 69 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.639 to be mercurial is to change, right, change and changing often, 70 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:50.240 And so when I first got into mercurial symbolism, it 71 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.720 was hard for me to actually kind of like figure 72 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:56.079 out sort of the nature of Mercury in a way 73 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.680 because it was associated with so many different things. And 74 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.759 even when I go through the astrological year, and I'm 75 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.399 putting out content on each sign. I'm always like, man, 76 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.439 there's a lot of mercurial symbolism with Aris. Yeah, there's 77 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.279 a lot of mercurial symbolism with Taurus and Gemini, and 78 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:14.839 it just goes on and on and on and on 79 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.839 and including the cards that correspond with the signs and 80 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:21.279 stuff like that. And so you know, just to kind 81 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.639 of get into it with mercury, I think that a 82 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.879 lot of cultures and a lot of systems, it's not 83 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.319 uncommon to have like a catch all phrase or a 84 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.959 catch all term that kind of encompasses maybe like spirit 85 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.480 or ether, like in totality, right. I know, there's even 86 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.319 people who kind of use like Satan as an example 87 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.319 as like that kind of catch all sort of thing. 88 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.639 Voodoo can kind of be that. The force you know 89 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.160 in Star Wars is almost kind of similar to this. 90 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.120 Mercury has also been this too, right. Mercury is almost 91 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.720 kind of like has been used as like a other 92 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:01.639 term for like ether and spirit and mercy as a traveler, right, So, 93 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.160 like a lot of the mercurial figures are messengers or travelers, 94 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.399 and so they're always going to and fro they're always, 95 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:15.000 you know, delivering these messages and whatever. So you know, Mercury, Hermes, Thoth. 96 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:21.680 I'll be probably using these interchangeably synonymously basically, but Hermes 97 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.319 Mercury is known for being like a psychopomp. So he 98 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:28.560 goes between realms, and I have a very sort of 99 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.000 like specific way in which I sort of imagine how 100 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:36.519 he goes between realms, which will unpack at a certain point. 101 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:40.560 And so he oftentimes is carrying like a bag or 102 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:44.120 a satchel delivering these messages, right, being the messenger of 103 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:48.480 the gods. And when you look at statues and artwork 104 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:53.519 with Mercury or Hermes, he has like winged you know, 105 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.800 a winged cap. He has like wings on his sandals 106 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.600 or his feet, and he's always too. One of the 107 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.439 things that I find really interesting, he's always on one foot. 108 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.079 That's like a classic sort of thing with Mercury Hermes, Right, 109 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:07.920 so it's like he's about to go or he just 110 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:11.639 kind of landed or something along these lines. He associates 111 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.879 with the Magician card. You know, Mercury corresponds with the 112 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.000 Magician card. So there's a lot to unpack just with 113 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.199 the Magician card and how it relates to mercury, you know. 114 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.079 But I think one of the things actually right, just 115 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.120 to kind of get into that, is the Magician card 116 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.160 is the first card of the major arcana. There's the Fool, 117 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.759 which I think has a lot of mercurial symbolism too, 118 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.319 because the Fool is the only card traditionally that is 119 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:37.319 shown actually traveling. 120 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:39.399 Even the Chariot card. 121 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.600 Traditionally the Cherriot is actually stationary and all of the 122 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:47.199 other figures are either standing or they're throned or something 123 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.959 along these lines. But the Fool is actually walking, right, 124 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.720 And the Fool has a poll with him, and the 125 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.560 first two cards in the major arcana pull wand symbolism 126 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.680 is really like on display for sure. And so the 127 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.279 Magician is holding that wand he's holding it up to 128 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.959 the heavens right. To me, this is really interesting because 129 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.639 he's holding it up and then he has one hand 130 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.680 pointed to the ground. So this is the classic as 131 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.000 above so below axiom right, And I think what he's 132 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:21.040 basically saying is I connect heaven and earth, you know, 133 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.519 I connect heaven and earth. And I think in some 134 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.759 ways he's saying, I am the central pillar in the 135 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:30.120 House of God, because that card corresponds with Beth, which 136 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:33.080 means house, but you know, on a sort of like 137 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:34.919 grander scale, it's the house. 138 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:35.639 Of God basically. 139 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.320 And so this would be the world axis in my opinion, right, 140 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.919 sort of the central pole that symbolically separates heaven and Earth, 141 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:47.799 but then also binds heaven and Earth as well. This 142 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.840 relationship has been referred to as the Great Triad, that 143 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.519 there's a triune relationship between Heaven, Earth, and man. And 144 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.120 so he is acting as that sort of central pillar 145 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.919 or that symbolic bridge between the above and the This 146 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.919 is actually how I think he gets between realms is 147 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.759 through the world axis basically, right, the axis Mondy, and 148 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.639 so the axis Moundy. You know, there's so many symbols 149 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.639 that relate to it, but the world tree or the 150 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:17.120 tree is one classic axis Mondy world axis symbol. And 151 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.039 so when you see a serpent going up a tree 152 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.480 like in the Garden of Eden, that's very very mercurial 153 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:27.320 and it's not unlike the dollar sign in my opinion, right, 154 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.240 kind of like the s with the vertical line, right, 155 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.279 and so to me, that is almost basically mercury ascending 156 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.279 to other realms, right, going to other planes of existence. 157 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.399 And so that's also mirrored in one of the symbols 158 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.720 that closely relates to mercury Hermes, which is the cadusius. Right, 159 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.240 So you have the twin serpents going up that wand 160 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:51.720 basically that's not unlike the Kundalini serpents going up your spine. Right, 161 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.399 it's the same symbolism pretty much. And so even the 162 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.279 number thirty three has been tied to mercury too, amongst 163 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:00.519 other you know, sort of deities and stuff like that. 164 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.360 But we have thirty three vertebrae in our. 165 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:07.399 Spines, so to me, ascension symbolism and sort of something 166 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:10.720 going upward, whether it's like a serpent or what have you. 167 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.279 To me, that's like incredibly mercurial because he goes to 168 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.840 these other planes, right, So he takes people. 169 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:19.000 He's the guide of souls. 170 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:25.679 And so I think a lot of figures actually start 171 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.919 off or a lot of like solar deities, when you 172 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:31.559 look into their origin story, it's heavily mercurial. 173 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.159 I think Christ is a good example of this. 174 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:35.879 I think Christ, you know, when he has like a 175 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.240 wand and he's doing magical things or whatever, he's basically 176 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.679 mercury pretty much I think what's kind of happened with 177 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.200 Christ is that he started off as being more mercurial, 178 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.279 and then he actually became solarized over time, so he 179 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.279 became more closely tied to the Sun. But I think 180 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.440 you can make the case that actually mercury was like 181 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.480 his original sort of like influencer planet or something along 182 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.480 these lines. Kind of relate to that, go ahead. 183 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.919 The first depictions of Jesus was with him holding a wand. 184 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:06.120 So. 185 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.759 Exactly yeah, he did have a wand there's old depictions 186 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.279 of him touching whoever he brought back with a wand 187 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.799 when he turns water wine they show I've seen depictions 188 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:20.360 of him having a wand in his hand when he's 189 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.879 touching that and making a change, exactly right. 190 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.879 The Bible of course refers to Jesus as the Shepherd 191 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:35.600 of men, right, and but before that Poimandra is Pomander. 192 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:35.600 From the. 193 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:44.639 Thank You he is described as the shepherd another another 194 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.440 biblical kind of descendant. 195 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:51.000 Right, yeah, no, exactly right. And so the wand in 196 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.360 and of itself is another world access symbol. In my opinion, 197 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.000 the want symbolically represents energy being sent forth, not unlike 198 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.919 the phallus and mercury has been heavily tied to phallic symbolism, 199 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.559 So anything sort of phallic, I think the wand the 200 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:10.720 tree definitely, what was I just gonna say? Or like 201 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.000 the pillar as well. Uh, there are some classic illustrations 202 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.039 of Hermi's mercury, like in between pillars. In many ways 203 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.639 he kind of represents the central pillar. He represents the 204 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:21.919 middle pillar, the middle path. 205 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:22.480 Right. 206 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.679 So even questioned like the hermit with the staff too, 207 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:27.799 I mean the same thing. 208 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.320 Oh yeah, the hermit card is rolled by Virgo, which 209 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.559 is rolled by mercury. And actually what hermit means is 210 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.279 means little Hermes, right. 211 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:41.279 I was gonna say that when you're getting into the 212 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:47.519 staff with the two serpents, it's more a method of exchange. 213 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.360 It also relates to barter and trade, whereas the staff 214 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.919 of the Sclapius is more along the lines of healing. 215 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.000 So with mercury, you specifically have in the Roman period 216 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.360 the murkers that would actually pile up goods at crossroads, 217 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:10.039 and they were worshiping mercury because he was the god 218 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.159 of mercantilism as well. 219 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:17.159 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Even the flow of currency is so mercurial, right, 220 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.320 you know, and you look at how we print our 221 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.279 cash here, right, Just that green, green is the color 222 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:25.799 of mercury in so many ways. There's a lot of 223 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.240 symbolism actually with the green man or the wild man 224 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.480 that completely corresponds with mercury in my opinion too, And 225 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.440 like there's a lot of like symbolism that overlaps there. 226 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.080 And so actually, I just pulled from my altar. I 227 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:42.200 have some mercury right here. It's you know, it's just 228 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.279 a little vial of mercury or whatever. But the element 229 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.600 of mercury is a liquid and a metal, right, and 230 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:53.679 so it's it's both, and so mercury is very androgynous, right, 231 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.879 and so that plays a huge, huge part in just 232 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:04.440 the symbolism of mercury being you know, basically knowing your 233 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.399 own light and your own dark. You're feminine, you're masculine, 234 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.000 things like that. This is why I think one of 235 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:13.080 the main reasons why I think magicians and mystics and 236 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.399 things like that have a reverence for mercury. To me, 237 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.039 it reminds me of magnetism having the positive and the 238 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.600 negative end of the poll or something along these lines. 239 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:27.879 And then even magnetism m ag magician, right, Magi right, 240 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.559 there's all these things kind of related to that, and 241 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.919 I think kind of the magician in a way almost 242 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.960 they learn how to sort of attract, you know, and repel. Right, 243 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:42.080 It's like what they sort of want in their life 244 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.799 or what they're trying to accomplish or whatever. So the 245 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:48.360 magnetic sort of thing is definitely like part of mercurial 246 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:49.559 symbolism for sure. 247 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.320 I definitely sort of like duality thing. Go ahead, I 248 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:55.000 definitely think you like, I'm glad you brought up the 249 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.399 magnetic thing. Even with that, you have even mentioned, you know, 250 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:00.320 when you get into the pollstar in Polarity, the old 251 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.279 magnetic too, you know, you can change that with magnets. 252 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.360 I've even now, I know I've brought up to you 253 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.080 and I've mentioned it on the show. But even like 254 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.399 the whole situation when I'm wucking with my pineal gland, 255 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.600 there's something that happens where for me, pushing all of 256 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.200 a sudden equals a slap in the face and I 257 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.320 don't understand. 258 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.440 That, you know, no, yeah, you've explained that to me before. 259 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.399 Yeah, yeah, And you know what I ended up coming 260 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.960 across a picture of David Bowie acting like the Archer 261 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.960 shooting himself in the head, So I'm not the only 262 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.200 one who obviously thought of that. 263 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.200 The things I wanted to point out, Mario, is that 264 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:40.279 you're talking about this duality. Isn't mercury often found with cinebar, 265 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.679 and so you have mercury as this manly, warlike type 266 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:52.480 and then cinnabar is a red vermillion type color, which 267 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:55.720 I guess the scarlet scarlet woman or anything like that. 268 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.360 So it almost reminds me of that that duality. 269 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.879 Yeah, no, that that's awesome. What has been said? 270 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.639 You know, in today's world, a lot of people say 271 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:09.480 men are from Mars, women are from Venus. My understanding 272 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.559 is that that actually like that became more popular in 273 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.159 like the sixties or seventies. There's a specific author that 274 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:20.679 kind of popularized that that phrase. And esterically, what I've 275 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:25.000 heard is that men are from Mercury, women are from Venus. 276 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.519 And it's interesting when you look at the glyph of 277 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.559 Venus and the glyph of Mercury, the only difference is horns, 278 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.679 which kind of is sort of there's a phallic connotation 279 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.559 with horns. There's a feminine aspect to horn symbolism too, 280 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.360 for sure, because it's like a chalice or a cop 281 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.600 or something. But when you look at Venus and Mercury, 282 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.320 just the glyphs side by side, I think that that 283 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.000 makes a lot of sense, like in so many ways. 284 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:47.440 Right. 285 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:54.159 There's also an ancient aspect to it too, because the 286 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.840 cinnabar was something that the Etruscans would cover themselves with, 287 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.919 and they think that Hermes was one of these borrowed 288 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:05.599 gods from the Etruscans because you know, they had this 289 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.680 relationship with the Greeks where they did share a lot 290 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:10.799 of these these deities, and you can see a lot 291 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.839 of these Hermes influences in the Etruscans. 292 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:16.000 Right, right. 293 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:21.440 Yeah, So I think the other thing too with this 294 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:26.039 like duality sort of thing with with Hermes, Mercury is 295 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:31.319 really seen in his rulership of Gemini, right, and the 296 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:35.119 Gemini Twins. So Mercury being the planet that rules Gemini. 297 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.079 And then with the Gemini twins, you have the Light 298 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.119 and the dark twin. Right, the dark twin always kills 299 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.960 the good twin, not always, but occasionally he kills the 300 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.319 good twin, and then they have this sort of thing 301 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.960 going on. So the fact that Mercury rules Gemini, I 302 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.400 think is really interesting there when you're looking at the 303 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:57.240 traditional planets, there's two planets that rule two different signs. 304 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:01.839 Mercury is one. It rules Gemini and it rules Virgo. 305 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.599 So there's an airy aspect to Mercury communication and this 306 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:10.720 traveling and the winged cap and everything else. And then 307 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.160 it rules Virgo, so that would be its earthy aspect, right, 308 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.920 It's more feminine sort of aspect, which, funny enough. The 309 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:23.039 other planet that basically does double duty like this is Venus. 310 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.920 So Venus rules Taurus, has that earthy aspect, but then 311 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.079 it also rules Libra, which would be its airy aspect. 312 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.720 So isn't that interesting this pair Mercury, Venus, they both 313 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:36.119 do sort of the same thing to different signs, right, 314 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:39.039 So I think that that's pretty fascinating too. 315 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:42.759 I do want to add just real quick, because you know, 316 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.880 you mentioned you know, Mercury and Venus. You know, for me, 317 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:47.480 just the way I look at the tree and I 318 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.079 look like you, I guess the way I end up saying, 319 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.279 you know, Cabala, you know, just whatever. From my studying, 320 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:57.319 I do feel like that Toth is like the beginning 321 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:01.119 of the of the hero's journey, you know. My opinion 322 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:03.319 I do think like his arc goes up the tree, 323 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:05.799 and even like I think when I mentioned the hermit card, 324 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.079 I think the hermit car would actually be possibly in 325 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.720 the path of going from from Mercury to Venus across 326 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.240 the tree. And I do think, like this is just 327 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.279 my opinion, I do think that when when that happens, 328 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.160 they both have to work together, I think to in 329 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:22.119 order to go up the tree. I think it's almost 330 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.680 like they're doing an untangling of themselves. And I do 331 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:28.319 think you need the male and the female to work together. 332 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:30.920 I even think when it comes down to if physiology 333 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:32.839 is really involved in this stuff, like I think it is, 334 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:34.519 I think one is the energy and the other one 335 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:36.279 is the form that it has to manipulate to go 336 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:38.240 the other way instead of what it used to do, 337 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.319 you know. So I even I do think it's very important, 338 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.400 even the feminine aspect, that it has to work with, 339 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:50.119 you know, to make things happen. And again, I know 340 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:54.160 it just probably an unpopular idea, but I do think 341 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.519 a lot of times, like again when I say the 342 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.599 hero's journey, it is again why I'm even like I'm 343 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:00.599 so happy we're covering this because I do think Mercury 344 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:03.759 again starts off the story. I think a lot of 345 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:05.880 other gods, like Horace, I would say it was probably 346 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.119 Tod but it just at a different time in his story, 347 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:10.759 you know. So I do think of like a lot 348 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.279 of the male gods were all still Toad, but just 349 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.000 at a different time in their in their story. 350 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.519 The same thing with Venus. Yeah, I was. 351 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.559 Gonna say, when you go back and you look at 352 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:25.359 the Egyptian stuff LinkedIn with the Persian stuff, there's a 353 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:30.519 lot of I mean with uh, with Thought, Hermes Mercury 354 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.000 being sort of a trickster god. He takes on the 355 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:38.839 same characteristics as Osiris, the same characteristics as Nimrod, Like 356 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.599 you see as far as establishing writing, you know, the 357 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:48.319 weights and measures, the geometry, the building of things, And 358 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:54.599 you almost have to think that maybe Thought wrote himself 359 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.960 into these different roles. I mean, you know, being there. 360 00:20:57.920 --> 00:20:58.920 Before the beginning. 361 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.160 There's in the Virgin of the World, there's talk of 362 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.640 Hermes being there when the soul was put into man 363 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:09.480 for the first time. You just you know, depend But 364 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:13.559 it's like almost like this one character kind of writes 365 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:17.559 himself into multiple roles through the various histories. 366 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:19.319 I love that man. 367 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.880 That's great because Thought was a was a scribe right 368 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.160 himself into different and. 369 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:33.319 Also Thought was the secretary to Isis when Osiris left 370 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.319 to civilize the world and teach building and the religions 371 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:43.200 and the temples, and Thought was the dark side of 372 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:47.720 the moon as the secret wisdom of Isis. That was 373 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:50.839 kind of behind the scenes as the moon moved through 374 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:55.680 the heavens. So there's all these intrinsic, kind of really esoteric, 375 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.400 kind of occult aspects of of you know, thought to 376 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:03.799 who he Mercury Hermes, you know from the beginning. 377 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:09.960 Well, one of the lesser known aspects of this Hermes 378 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:16.119 Aphrodite conjunction or this hermei Mercury Hermaphroditis, that's the one 379 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:20.440 that everybody knows. But also they had another child called Priapis, right, 380 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:24.559 and Priapis was a rustic god. If you're feeling really brave, 381 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.000 you should look him up and get an eye fall there, 382 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:34.599 because he had literally a baby's arm an apple. And 383 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:41.000 so this this god was known as having this massive donger, 384 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.880 and so Hermes also got associated with this massive dong 385 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.920 And now this goes right back to what you were 386 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:50.119 just saying about the pole of the heavens. So it's 387 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:56.359 not just this idea of that you know, he's moving 388 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.000 between the Earth and the heavens. It's that the spirit 389 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.480 of the Earth is basically raining down creating life on 390 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.920 this planet Earth from this northern polar symbolism, and that 391 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.559 polar symbolism gets then transferred into this masculine idea of 392 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:16.000 the masculine creating. Now, Priapis was kind of an unfortunate 393 00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:21.559 character because despite always having a rock hard sloan, he 394 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.440 he couldn't use it when the time came. So it's 395 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.640 like this idea that the spirit is weak but the 396 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:35.240 flesh is willing. So there there's this there's this kind 397 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:39.440 of a contrast there, and that that preapis angle really 398 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:42.839 does get transferred over into the everyday life of the 399 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.799 average Greek because they would have preapis stones in their gardens, 400 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.319 like closer to the house, and then they would have 401 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:57.960 hermstones sort of guarding or marking out the boundary between 402 00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:00.960 their territories. So you've got hermes to further out, and 403 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.000 then this priapist closer to home. But one of the 404 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.559 reasons why they had priapists closer to home was you 405 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.279 would rub his phallus for luck if you know, as 406 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:16.319 as the Greeks were mostly into this fertility ritual thing. 407 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:20.799 And also you could pull it out and use it 408 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.720 as a baseball bat if the people who didn't respect 409 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:27.720 your hermstones came onto your property. So you could actually 410 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:31.359 smack people around with this giant phallus. And there's nothing more, 411 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.839 you know, humiliating than being smacked around with the giant 412 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:35.880 phallus of this god. 413 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:39.960 So yeah, yeah, and you'll see priapis literally holding like 414 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.400 a Cadusie is basically right. 415 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:44.119 Yeah. 416 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.799 I was just going to add more onto the phallic 417 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:56.279 symbolism that both represents with his beak, with the ib beak, yeah, 418 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:01.400 of course that's very phallic. And it's also uh, which 419 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:07.160 is phallic pointing out things, which is another author kind 420 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.319 of trait in more modern times. The idea of Shakespeare, right, 421 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.799 he kind of shake the spear, Hey, the author and 422 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.400 writing a thought being kind of the writer is uh, 423 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.440 you know, kind of pierces the veil, pierces the realms, 424 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:32.680 transverses the different dimensions, as does the beak. 425 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:33.160 Right. 426 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.759 I think the idea of when the ibis or any 427 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:42.519 bird hunts into the water it goes into that other strata, right, 428 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.440 So maybe that's part of the symbolism of him being 429 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.359 able to move among dimensions. 430 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.799 Oh yeah, no, definitely, I'm inclined to think so for sure. 431 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.480 Something speaking of which and just the phallic thing real quick, 432 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.480 and this going to other dimensions or going to the 433 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.559 underworld or what have you. You know, this idea of 434 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.559 energy ascending, going up the world tree, going up the 435 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.400 world axis whatever. Which, By the way, there's a huge 436 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.319 thing with mercury, Hermes with spin too. I've seen multiple 437 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.920 statues where he's with like a wheel or a gear 438 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.839 or something along these lines. Even I've seen examples of 439 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.400 like the spin of the Earth kind of being related 440 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.559 to mercury. And my personal opinion is Earth is not spinning, 441 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:28.400 the heavens are spinning. I think that's been a huge 442 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.480 inversion over time basically, and so that that's kind of 443 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:37.920 my position personally. But the fallaist even literally ejaculation into 444 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.200 a woman, to me, that's symbolic of the exact same thing. 445 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:41.839 You know. 446 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.519 It's almost like your semen is going to the underworld, 447 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.799 it's going to another dimension. 448 00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:46.480 Basically. 449 00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.640 It's another sort of classic sort of example of what 450 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.160 I'm trying to explain here, So I think that that's 451 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:52.839 related as well. 452 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.200 And the exchange is the creation process that is manifesting 453 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.839 and bringing forth some sort of form out of the 454 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.559 meeting of those two spinning serpents, right right, right, Yeah. 455 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.599 It's really reflected in some of the early dirty poetry 456 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:14.359 about him, and what they're really trying to say there 457 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.799 is that this exchange of life, this creation of life, 458 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:24.400 has a lot to do with this conjunction of mercury 459 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:29.440 and aphrodite. The idea that you're transversing the only way 460 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:34.119 to continue life is to transverse boundaries. That is so 461 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:39.400 closely related. So when they're talking about Congress and you know, 462 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:44.640 places like Washington, that's sexual Congress on a different level. 463 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.319 And what they're hoping for is that they're transversing these 464 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.799 boundaries so that you know, you don't have to go 465 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.839 to war. Obviously it doesn't happen that way. But another 466 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:59.240 interesting angle is the Cadusius itself was sort of granted 467 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.960 two hermes, or you know, they call it the Angel 468 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:08.079 of Zeus because being a messenger, he was now untouchable. 469 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:13.000 So the ancient messengers or these these figures, they were 470 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.880 on battlefields, right, and they were untouchable because they had 471 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.599 these batons that had these ribbons from them. So everybody 472 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.400 on the battlefield would see that the messenger of the 473 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.599 king would have this baton with ribbons on them, and 474 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.160 hermies too. Originally before it was the snakes, he had 475 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:36.359 the baton with the two white again white. What are 476 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.319 they symbolizing there? The two white streamers coming down from it. 477 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:43.000 So this was like everybody knew not to touch these guys. 478 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.279 So you have to wonder where these uh battles really 479 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:52.519 all that, you know, all out there, if there were 480 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.319 people on the battlefield walking around kind of like at 481 00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:00.799 this larp being the judges judging your hits on each other, 482 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.599 there's that angle to it. It's like maybe the war 483 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.519 has never been authentic. Maybe it's always been sort of 484 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:13.480 this coached and kind of a sport type thing. 485 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:13.839 You know. 486 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.599 I've heard it described as a ritualistic. 487 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.160 I could see that, yeah for sure. 488 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:18.839 Yeah. 489 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.400 Something I did want to add before we go any father, 490 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.640 and I think I guess, like the phallic stuff, I 491 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.680 figured it was a way for me to segue into 492 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.359 this because it was something I wanted to get into. 493 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.680 I just didn't know how I was going to get 494 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.839 into it, you know, when it comes to mercury, even angels, 495 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.079 certain things I have been wondering, you know about like 496 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.440 them playing a role in physiology or in the body. 497 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.119 And I guess, like in order to guess, maybe preface 498 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.920 don't have to get through it real quick. Why even 499 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.720 think this way? Just from certain experiences in the OTO 500 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:50.680 during initiations, you know, there's there's a there's a point 501 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.640 where I do believe I'm being showed the optic nerve 502 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.720 in the maneuval, and you know, I'm standing in something 503 00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:58.359 in front of something and I'm being told the word 504 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.200 on my thumbs being pump twelve times, and your optic 505 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.160 nerve is one of your twelve cranial nerves. So I like, 506 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.400 just in my opinion, that's what I do think I'm seeing. 507 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.359 So I do think I'm seeing like nerves technically. You know, 508 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.559 then in Alista Crowley's and a WEX formula, you will 509 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:16.720 be grabbing your nipple as if a baby is sucking it, 510 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.920 and there is something going on through nerves through the 511 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.720 you know, the body, to the mother's neal gland and 512 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.759 then affects the child. So again you're seeing nerves. I 513 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.440 started thinking, well, that's how messages travel with inside your body. 514 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.680 And all these guys always called messages, and you're sending 515 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.440 messages throughout all these things. And your dick does have nerves, 516 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.400 you know what I'm saying, plenty of them. And nerves 517 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.640 are also very important for healing, and some of these 518 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.440 gods that are associated with mercury have healing aspects to them. 519 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.519 So I'm just wondering, like, is it something actually with 520 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.279 how they travel? Like I joke around saying, write the lightning, 521 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:53.880 but maybe you got to write it all the way 522 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:55.880 out of your body through your nerves, and not. 523 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:01.359 Yet to your point of the nerves. In the penis. 524 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.599 It also connects all the way to the S one 525 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.559 S four, t H one L one of the spinal column, 526 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.559 so it goes all the way back to the spinal column. 527 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:12.240 It's connected. 528 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.720 Even a spine is an anagram for penis. 529 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.160 Yes, yes, so, and hence. 530 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:24.200 We have the pen right there you go, you know. 531 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.759 And I believe in Egyptian culture they would often have 532 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:32.519 people and gods, and especially to Hoodie have the left 533 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.279 foot forward right not only him crossing dimensions, but it 534 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:43.839 was the way that we would appropriate ourselves most like 535 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:50.000 the sun, most like enlightenment. And I believe that is 536 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.279 can be kind of, you know, the root of the 537 00:31:54.480 --> 00:32:01.519 classic Freemason question that there's probably many more than this one, 538 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.400 but the idea of oh, so you're a traveling man 539 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.400 and the code is supposed to be, yeah, I'm a 540 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:11.440 traveling man. I'm heading east. Oh good. And so that's 541 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:16.079 the same idea that you're directing yourself as the Egyptian's 542 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.880 noted left foot direction that in relation to the Nile 543 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:26.480 was east, and of maybe interest in Taiji and so 544 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:32.680 forth and chigung, everything is left side first, left foot first, 545 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.039 and interesting correspondence. 546 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.559 That's awesome, dude. I love that for so many different reasons. 547 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.359 And this is what I'll say is that I'm always 548 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.839 thinking about rotation and spin in these circumambulation rituals, and 549 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.799 whether the totem is on the right or on the 550 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.400 left makes a big difference with what you're trying to 551 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.440 do right, and so if the totem is on the right, 552 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.720 that's more expansive. People have said that this is more 553 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.720 solar in nature. If the totem is on the left 554 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.079 and you going counterclockwise, that's actually more polar it's going 555 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.599 more within. And so there's something to be said about 556 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.519 like in Islam. When you go to Mecca and you 557 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.319 go around the Kabba cube, the Kaba cubes on the 558 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.759 left hand side, you're going counterclockwise. All of the fixed 559 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.839 stars go counterclockwise around polaris right. 560 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.680 And the Buddhists, sorry, sorry to build on your point. 561 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:29.319 The Buddhists circumambulate their structures. I forget what they're called 562 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:34.880 right now, not lingams, but when they circumambulate their gran 563 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.799 grain structures and celebration of life, I forget what they're called. 564 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:44.400 Excuse me, but they do a clockwise circulation, which is 565 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.839 the opposite of the rotation of Islam. And the Daoists 566 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:54.039 say the same thing about those rotations being clockwise being expansive, 567 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:59.240 counterclockwise being internal and condensing kind of thing. 568 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.680 There you go, yeah, And then I don't know if 569 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.519 you've come across this or whatever, but basically I'm inclined 570 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.239 to think that East, the direction of East, is actually 571 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.840 a metaphor, that it's actually beyond the east. And I 572 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.599 think that when people refer to the quest of the Orient, 573 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.400 that it's actually not literally an eastward sort of journey, 574 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.199 and it's not something that you can actually point out 575 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.360 on the map, but it's actually there's been many ways 576 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.719 it's been described, but it's actually more of a central 577 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.280 sort of location. It's like a mythical central sort of location, 578 00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.159 like a sacred center sort of ideas. So in that way, 579 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.239 I think of the center as like the pole, right, 580 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.119 like the north pole, the poll star. That's kind of like, 581 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.480 you know, how I tend to interpret things, and so 582 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.440 so I've heard that like when East is referenced in 583 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.800 some texts, they're not literally mean geographical East. And I 584 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.599 think that's kind of interesting too, because in some freemasonic 585 00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:00.400 tracing boards there's a clear ladder to the stairway, or 586 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.800 there's a clear stairway to Heaven to like the polestar 587 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.039 in my opinion, and oftentimes that is what's labeled east. Right, 588 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.760 So kind of like this mythical sort of other dimensional, centralized, 589 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.000 kind of polar sort of thing with how I tend 590 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.599 to look at things, which that's kind of another thing 591 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.320 with mercury, I'll say, is that there's a triune nature 592 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.960 to mercury, right, So it's almost like the one reflects 593 00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.760 upon itself, is aware of itself, which creates two, and 594 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.599 then the two creates a three sort of thing. There's 595 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.880 this natural unfolding, right, and so whenever there's two of anything, 596 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.880 there's a third thing. So with the Gemini twins, you 597 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.039 have the twins, but there's a third thing that's created. 598 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.159 Now there's like a passageway or like an opening or doorway, 599 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.480 just like the pillars, right, and. 600 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.039 So mercury maybe between two mirrors. 601 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.239 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 602 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.480 Father son, Holy spirit right behind you. 603 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.639 Yep, yep, yeah, totally. There's a triune trinity thing. Whenever 604 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.119 there's two of anything, there's always this hidden third. And 605 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.199 so what I how I break it down in Dakota, 606 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:08.039 is that mercury has symbolism, undeniable symbolism that is solar 607 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.559 in nature, undeniable symbolism that is lunar in nature, and 608 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.239 undeniable symbolism that is. 609 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.639 Polar in nature. That's the third thing, lunar, solar, and polar. 610 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:21.760 You know, that's how you even look at the three 611 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.920 pillars on the Cabbalistic tree of life, you know. And 612 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.280 so so I think polar is the most primordial though, 613 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.159 and again it relates to the pole, the pillar, the fallus, 614 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.199 this central sort of idea of the world axis, you know, 615 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.599 all this kind of stuff. So there's like a whole 616 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.480 entire breakdown that you can look at the polar, lunar 617 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.719 and solar symbolism of mercury, and it's all completely baked 618 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.239 into all of these different mercurial figures and stuff. 619 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.480 So I have something in regard to what you're saying there. 620 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:53.199 When you get into alchemy and Paracelsus, he has a 621 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.440 whole treaty on pulling mercury from every type of metal, 622 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.599 and he tells you how to lay it out into 623 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.679 these flatforms, put it in vinegar, purify it, and nonetheless, 624 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:10.000 he says, the spirit of mercury, which is only subjected 625 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.719 to spirit, to the spirits above, has no determination or 626 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:18.360 certain form itself. Hence it happens that it emits every metal, 627 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.440 just as wax or seves all seals of whatever form. 628 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.039 But it goes on to just basically say that, you know, 629 00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:30.760 within sal there's mercury, within Luna, there's mercury within all 630 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.639 of So mercury is the fixative and the flux of 631 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.360 all the different and you can pull mercury and put 632 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.760 it into all of the various metals, so very much 633 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.880 along the lines of exactly what you were saying there. 634 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.719 Well, when mining metals from out of the ground, what 635 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:55.239 you'll find is that it's usually coated in other less 636 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.440 pure metals. So you've got lead, and you've got mercury 637 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.960 that's usually in a mouth that's around things like copper, 638 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.480 and you know, big iron ore deposits and things like that. 639 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.920 You've got all these things that are basically surrounded by mercury, 640 00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.960 and you don't get a lot out of the mercury 641 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.639 that surrounds it, but you know, if you're minding enough metal, 642 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:18.199 you can get. 643 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:18.519 A lot. 644 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.920 Interesting. Yeah, no, thank you for sharing that, man, that's great. 645 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.880 Makes a lot of sense. One of the things I 646 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.800 was gonna add on to what Nick was saying about 647 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:33.519 the hero's journey being mercurial in nature basically essentially, right, dude, 648 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.760 I can't tell you. I went to film school, so 649 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.119 I mean, for what it's worth, it was just a 650 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.239 rinkyding film school in Portland. But you know, I'm always 651 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.920 decoding when I'm watching stuff, I'm sure, just like all 652 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.519 of you guys and whatever. But ever since I really 653 00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:53.760 got into mercurial symbolism. Man, Almost every single protagonist, maybe 654 00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.079 all of them, I have the exact same opinion, dude, 655 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.599 where I'm like, this is freaking mercury. If there's any 656 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.000 plan terry correspondence here or whatever, I'm like, this is mercury. 657 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.920 So I think that's actually the hidden correspondence essentially with 658 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.840 protagonists is that it is actually mercury, because what we 659 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:16.199 want to see the hero's journey is about change being mercurial, 660 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.440 right right, traveling, you know, and going through this journey, 661 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.119 you know, whatever it might be. 662 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:27.519 So there's some movies though that really really are highly. 663 00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.199 Aware of this dynamic in my opinion, and just because 664 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.599 it's a classic movie that like everyone is familiar with 665 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.119 and it does a pretty good job doing it esoterically. 666 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:41.079 The matrix, you know, Neo is basically a mercurial figure. Yeah, 667 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.679 he's writing the Chariot when he's got those twins Chason them. 668 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:45.599 Oh yeah, yeah. 669 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:45.840 Yeah. 670 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:47.840 There's some Chariot cards, by the way that I have 671 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:53.239 one in particular by this creator. Her name is Barbara Walker. 672 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.000 She's actually a really great symbologist. She has a few 673 00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.440 really awesome symbology books and she did her own deck, 674 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.280 so she is like really schooled on mythology and things 675 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.000 like that. She put the glyph of mercury on the 676 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.840 front of the chariot in the chariot card, which is 677 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.679 ruled by cancer, but she knows the symbolism, so she 678 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.480 put mercury right there. And I'm like, that is really awesome. 679 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:18.039 But at the end of the movie, Neo, and there's 680 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:19.840 so much green in the movie too, right, the color 681 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.239 of mercury, the heart chakra, right, the color of nature. 682 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:23.599 Right. 683 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:27.679 And so at the very end of the movie, he's 684 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.320 in a phone booth he does like the final call 685 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.239 or whatever. He walks outside he's at an intersection, aka 686 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.880 the crossroads. Right, Mercury has a lot of symbolism related 687 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:45.159 to crossroad symbolism. The crossroad is the point of ascension, 688 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.400 and it's a transcendental sort of thing. 689 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:47.719 Right. 690 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.639 I almost think if you look at a cross literally, 691 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.400 you have the four quadrants or the four arms, So 692 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.880 the number four relates to the cross but that center 693 00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.400 point where the vertical and horizontal meat that is the 694 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.519 fifth point point, So that's like the transcendental point. I'm 695 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.280 kind of inclined to think that the cross when it's 696 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.519 you see them in graveyards and stuff like that. Symbolically, 697 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.760 there is a thing about people crossing over, right with 698 00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:17.199 this cross and Neo walks out of the phone booth 699 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.480 at the crossroads, and then that's the first time you 700 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.119 see him fly basically, right, he like literally just takes 701 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.079 off like Superman or whatever. And so to me, I'm 702 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.199 just like that is all basically encoding some of the 703 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.280 things we're kind of talking about. 704 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.400 Right, Hey, what you're saying, you're. 705 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.480 In your transcendental with mercury, isn't it in Gene help 706 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.920 me out? I think, isn't the first Emperor of China 707 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.280 buried over the river of mercury? I do know that 708 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:49.840 with the feathered serpentzecaudalaal He, the temple itself has a 709 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:54.960 large deposit of mercury in it. And so when you 710 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.840 were talking about crossing over or having this transcendental moment, 711 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.760 it reminded me of those two things. 712 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.840 I was gonna mention when you you mentioned the red 713 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:14.480 uh Herb. The Chinese were both what wasn't Lisa, I 714 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.199 think was it the first? Yes? Yeah, the Chinese were 715 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:28.119 uh obsessed with cinnebar and in not only internally, but 716 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.280 I think ceremonially as well. Sorry about that, Maria. 717 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.159 Oh yeah, So I'll just add really quick like cinnabar 718 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:42.039 are still really popularly Houston t c M for skin formulations, 719 00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.639 and it is considered to be herb of Mars in particular. 720 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.480 But there's an interesting element and I wanted to bring 721 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.559 this up later when Nick had my slides, but I'll 722 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.719 just mention it now. Is the thing about quicksilver and 723 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.000 mercury mixed together. It's it's actually a treatment for nerves. 724 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.199 Like Lisa, you brought up the thing about the in 725 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:07.320 the penis is connection to the spine. Well, there's even 726 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.559 an idea in TNTRA there that the tip is green. 727 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.679 Like bringing up this green because most people don't associate 728 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.480 green with mercury all the time, even in cabala, Like 729 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.079 if you look at a hermetic tree, it's often orange, 730 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.079 but really in contra it's green. So it's but it's 731 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:30.800 emerald green. It's green with light passing through. So this 732 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.880 is the really important distinction from like venus or nuts. 733 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.079 So that's like a jade color or a copper color 734 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.519 that's been oxidized. But to bring it back to the 735 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.559 quicksilver and cinebar. It is said that quicksilver actually dissolves 736 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.920 the cinnabar to make it more less toxic. So when 737 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.000 you're using in a formula, it kind of corrodes, just 738 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.440 like it corrodes copper, So it corodes. 739 00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.239 Has the element to like Robbie was saying, the flux. 740 00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.599 It is the flux that kind of corrodes both cinnabar 741 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.519 and copper at the same time. So it's used in 742 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.719 nerve formulas when it is treated or processed a not 743 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:11.000 specific way, but often for scorpion bites, cinnebar, and any 744 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:12.639 kind of raised boils. 745 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.159 I know we brought up the scorpion thing last. 746 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.079 Time, but I have so much more notes, but I'll wait, 747 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.000 I'll wait till until you're done by Sorry. 748 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.400 Oh you're good man. This is awesome. 749 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.760 That patina color is just so perfect as the example 750 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.280 of mercury because it's the metal and it's also what 751 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.760 combines with venus or copper, so it's got it's got 752 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:37.960 all the symbols right in there. 753 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.719 Well yeah, copper as it patina as the patinas it 754 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:44.119 turns that green. 755 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. 756 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.320 And Jen, I'm glad you mentioned emeralds absolutely, and I'm 757 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.559 inclined to think that this is somewhat part of the 758 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.440 inspiration for Emerald City where in the Wizard of Oz, right, 759 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.400 and so Emerald City apparently when you read the source 760 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.760 material of the books, it's known that Emerald City is 761 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.400 in the middle of Oz, So they're actually going to 762 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.920 the center of Oz, essentially the sacred center, right, and 763 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.880 then that's where the wizard is, right, and so wizardry magic, 764 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.760 you know, all these different types of things heavily related 765 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:21.400 to mercury. 766 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:22.480 For sure. 767 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.000 I was going to say about the mercury under the ground. 768 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.360 So at Tao Tucon they found a scale model of 769 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.639 Tao Tuacan under the ground in front of the Temple 770 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.440 of the Sun, and that scale model had this river 771 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.039 of mercury flowing through it somehow. And what's interesting about 772 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.880 both Teo Tuacan and the sites in China with these 773 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.960 underground mercury rivers is that it's it's like there's constant 774 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:56.840 sightings around these areas of UFOs, but never over the areas. 775 00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.599 So if you want to keep the aliens away from you, 776 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.239 you need the subterranean river of mercury. 777 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.920 And then well, the problem heard that they took mercury 778 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:11.559 and filled up pools so that they could stand on 779 00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.119 top of the pyramids and look down. 780 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:15.320 To observe the stars. 781 00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.159 So you know, there's mercury. 782 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:19.159 Just you can go. 783 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:21.440 We can go for days and days and days. 784 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.760 Absolutely. Some people say that it's either mercury or red mercury, 785 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.119 which is a whole nother rabbit hole too. That's sort 786 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.599 of the secret for like levitation and for creating UFOs 787 00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:32.519 and things like that. 788 00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.920 And it was the Pyramid of the Vulture that they 789 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.599 found a chamber of red mercury in South America. 790 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.719 So yeah, yeah, nice, nice, that's awesome. 791 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.719 Yeah, maybe dude, you can share a couple of my 792 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.559 slides because there's a few points that I think looking 793 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.880 at some of this artwork visually would be helpful. So 794 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.920 I'm thinking of number five and then also number eight, 795 00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.119 but there's other things too that I think will kind of, 796 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.400 you know, take the conversation where it needs to go. 797 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:03.559 Here you go. 798 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.840 But basically, you know, when you look at some mercurial figures, 799 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.199 what I've noticed is that and you guys can help 800 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.119 me out with the right terminology here, they're either the 801 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.280 synthesis of the masculine and the feminine, or they operate 802 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.119 outside of the feminine and the masculine, something along these lines. 803 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:27.400 But I think that this is a good example of that, 804 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.800 where you have a clear mercurial figure in the middle, right, 805 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.760 his phallus is out in the open, he has mercury 806 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:37.239 on top of his head, he has two caduceiuses in 807 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.639 his hands. And then you have a figure on the 808 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.480 left more emblematic of the sun because the sun is 809 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.119 on the left hand side. He has a club, and 810 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:49.559 then on the right a figure that's more emblematic of 811 00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.960 the moon because the moon is on the right hand side. 812 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.679 And what I'm inclined to think is that a lot 813 00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:01.119 of teachers from the ancient world are associated with mercury basically, 814 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.480 and this relates to the wild man green man sort 815 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:08.760 of thing, that their wisdom comes from a previous age. 816 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.840 And I'm inclined to think that this is polar in nature. 817 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:18.280 So once again, solar symbolism on the left, lunar symbolism 818 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.320 on the right, polar symbolism in the middle. That polar 819 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.239 symbolism is more primordial, right, And so I think that 820 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.599 this is what you see again in the Taro where 821 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.280 the fool is always carrying. 822 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.199 A pole with him. That's not a mistake. 823 00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.079 A lot of green men or a lot of wild 824 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.920 man sort of figures, they're always with a staff or 825 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.880 they're always with a pole. This relates to that tradition, 826 00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.760 which is also referred to as the mystic pole tradition basically, right, 827 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.840 And so I'm inclined to think that Mercury's origins basically 828 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.440 are with all of this polar sort of stuff. But 829 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.480 if you didn't know about any of that symbolism, I 830 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.599 think it'd be kind of harder to pick up. And 831 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.320 I think that if you go to the eighth slide, 832 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.960 number eight eight, you'll see Hermes Trismegistus, and basically it's 833 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.119 a different sort of layout, but I think it's communicating 834 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.920 some of the same symbolism in that you have he's 835 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.880 operating outside almost of the lunar solar paradigm or something 836 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.079 along these lines, right, he predates it, and so you 837 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.039 have the sun on the top and then you have 838 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.320 the moon on the bottom, and he's operating outside of that, 839 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.840 and he's holding what he's holding a pole, right, and 840 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.280 so that pole has a sphere on it, And to me, 841 00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:33.639 this is like a clear sort of acknowledgment of the 842 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.960 world axis, sort of this symbolic bridge to other planes, 843 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.119 the north pole or whatever you want to say. But 844 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.320 Hermie's trismagist is his wisdom. Their wisdom, mercurial figures. You know, 845 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.960 they know things that modern people don't know. So I 846 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.719 think sometimes, like in the last slide that we just 847 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:56.880 looked at, solar lunar people are trying to basically, you know, 848 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.719 hurt Mercury because he comes from a previous age. It's 849 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.960 almost symbolically kind of showing the passage of time in 850 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.400 a way. You know that the mercurial wisdom is something 851 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.679 that is ancient, so much so that I think that 852 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.880 modern people have a hard time either respecting it or 853 00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.360 understanding it or something along these lines. But what do 854 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:15.159 you guys think about this? 855 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.840 So please go ahead, Oh, I was gonna say. 856 00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.559 So, when you go back to the prediluvion stories of 857 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:27.639 the original pill the two pillars that were set up, 858 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.079 one was brick and one was lattice. One of those 859 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.519 pillars was said to be established by Hermes as a 860 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:39.280 pre Deluvian Hermes, and then it was a post alluvion 861 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.360 of different Hermes in the same line that basically found 862 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.480 that and deciphered it and as thought and gave it 863 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.920 to the priests and basically was seen in high regard. 864 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.679 So there is this sense of a post Alluvian or 865 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:59.000 prediluvian post Alluvian kind of information system that carries through 866 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.800 from and heading into the polestar and the changing of 867 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.280 the polestar potential Earth changes, et cetera, et cetera. 868 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.840 I was that's that's amazing. I was going to add 869 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.360 that the that you have the polarity of the sun 870 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.400 and the moon, which harken back to your concept of 871 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.920 the pillars, and then the third who's kind of you know, 872 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.199 in in concert with the two polarity systems there and 873 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.679 also that trinity that beckons to the trice great and 874 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:41.760 and I believe that kind of in in regards to surpassing. 875 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:48.400 It's also the sense of mastering these three worlds of high, Middle, 876 00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:54.519 Low or heaven, Earth and man or and sometimes referred 877 00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.440 to or could be demonstrated as the priestly, the king, 878 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.920 and the philosopher. Many times it's been regarded that way, 879 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.960 but you could also think of it as mastering psyche 880 00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:14.440 or politics excuse me, and politics, the political state systems 881 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:21.719 and the you know nature of a high place. So 882 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.719 there's that those trinities are are right there. And I 883 00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:30.639 feel like to your point of the crossroads too. In 884 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.039 Egyptian concept of life and death, which of course they're 885 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:40.719 obsessed with, there's the two main worlds maybe in that 886 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:46.840 crossroads idea of the living and the dead, and there's also, uh, 887 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.320 the realm of the gods, and they weren't really it 888 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.280 wasn't easy for them to just come to Earth like 889 00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:58.719 except for Hermes and both rather and there was also 890 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:03.679 the fourth day mentioned in that where sometimes if a 891 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:09.119 person was exceptional both of course there was a way 892 00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:15.400 to kind of visit the godly realm for a mortal, 893 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.920 but normally it was those main three and then this 894 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.920 other one that was like exceptional an exception. Thanks for 895 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:25.480 letting me soon. 896 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.000 Well, what is that to me is the auras around 897 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.760 the sun and the moon there, so you've got that 898 00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:37.239 kind of X shape between the two and around the 899 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.039 sun you get the rays coming off of the sun. 900 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:42.960 But then outside of that it sort of seems like 901 00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:47.039 you've got this implosion force. Right, So to me with 902 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.320 that sort of indicating is some kind of an ether, right, 903 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.000 So there's an etheric connection between both the Sun and 904 00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.039 the moon, and the way that they're depicting them like 905 00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:01.079 right over top of each other indicates I think a 906 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.360 kind of maybe a conjunction maybe talking about the eclipse 907 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.199 having that kind of like moving into that eclipse you 908 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.920 get a different change in the energy the ether around them. 909 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.800 Mm hmm. Yeah. 910 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:21.639 Interesting, you can see that's the separation on it. 911 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:23.760 When it comes to rays, one of the things I've 912 00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.280 picked up symbolically, I just think it's interesting and when 913 00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.679 I see stuff like this now, I definitely take it 914 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.159 into account. But when you see a the ray of 915 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:35.440 a sun and it's wavy, I've heard symbolically that's more 916 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:38.400 indicative of heat, and when you see it and it's 917 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.559 straight out, like spokes on a wheel, that that's more 918 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:42.519 indicative of light. 919 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.320 And so there's like probably both of that going on here. 920 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.400 It seems like right, the big fat sort of wavy 921 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.880 rays and then the straight ones behind it. 922 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.079 In some of the ancient plates, you see exactly that 923 00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.679 the wavy and the straight, and that's indicative of them 924 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.519 trying to emulate that it was both heat and light. 925 00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:03.960 Cha, gotcha. 926 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.599 Yeah, you know something I have wondered about. 927 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.320 And I don't know if this plays into anything worth 928 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.119 a you know, cult symbolism or mercury, but I mean 929 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:13.840 I do find it interesting. I mean, you just think 930 00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.119 as simple as a thermometer, I mean, if you add 931 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.199 heat to it, it's gonna like yeah, I mean technically, 932 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.400 I means it defined gravity. I don't know if whatever 933 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.039 that is, you know, gravity, but I mean you add 934 00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:26.559 heat to it, it's going to move in a different 935 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:27.400 direction that it's at. 936 00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:29.760 Well, I think it's just expanding. 937 00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:32.280 Yeah. 938 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:32.480 Yeah. 939 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.400 Well, what he's also showing though, is that as he's 940 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.400 pointing downward, you know, you've got the eyes above, so below. 941 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:45.760 He's putting the pole above or as a more spiritual 942 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.199 concept than the lower concept of both the sun and 943 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.719 the moon. So he's sort of saying this is a 944 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.239 reflection of somehow the polar symbolism. 945 00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.639 So maybe you guys can help me out here. Is 946 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.840 this a statement polarity precedes duality? 947 00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:10.920 Yeah, yeah, because condensation would cause the polarity to then 948 00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.679 form the duality, you know, because as they've sort of separated, 949 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.760 then you've got the two masses now being in contrast 950 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:19.320 to one another. 951 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:23.920 I didn't see it before. But as you're speaking of 952 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.639 the polarity, there's in the two worlds of the Sun 953 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:30.039 and the Moon, there's that eight, or there's essentially an 954 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.079 eight in that fiery formation there between. 955 00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:34.039 Oh that's excellent man. 956 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:34.400 Yeah. 957 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:39.880 So Mercury's cycle is eighty eight days for one vitation, right, 958 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.280 the fastest planet. So that actually makes it very tricky 959 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.639 to see in the night sky, so you actually have 960 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.280 to go out of your way to see Mercury. Essentially, 961 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:49.920 can I can. 962 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.440 I inject quick? Can we go back to the previous life? 963 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:55.000 Yeah? Sorry about that? 964 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.159 No, no, no, you're gold probably wants to move on, 965 00:56:58.280 --> 00:56:59.559 but I was like, I want to say something. 966 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:00.519 You're good. 967 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.800 So this image right here reminds me of something that 968 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:07.159 Nick and I had discussed. So we were talking about 969 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:12.559 retrograde and how the concept of retrograde is that you 970 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.320 mercury appears as it's going backwards, and so to me, 971 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:22.400 immediately I think mercury going forwards, mercury going backwards, And 972 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:27.440 you can only see mercury retrograde or mercury going backwards 973 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:31.159 if you are on planet Earth, so to speak, and 974 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:35.440 that it is the way that it circles around the Sun. 975 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:40.199 Itself to where you know, you're going whatever faster than 976 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.719 Mercury at some point, and then it looks like Mercury's 977 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:45.480 going backwards, kind of like with a car when you 978 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:47.960 pass up a car and the car kind of looks 979 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:49.920 like it's going backwards, but it's not. It's just the 980 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.400 way the optical illusion is. And so with Hermes, Hermes 981 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.239 is such a duel, right, there's a duality to him, 982 00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.920 and so you have the duality again sun and moon 983 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.400 and then you have the Earth. To me, that indicates 984 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.599 somewhat of maybe they could see the retrograde back then 985 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.239 and that they were trying to depict something like that. 986 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.000 But that's what that reminds me of. 987 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.800 Well, got the eighty eight day cycle too, that that 988 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.039 brings to mind the eighty eight keys of it of 989 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.880 a piano. And what Hermes is known for is being 990 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.800 the teacher of music to Apollo, and so that that 991 00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:29.440 teacher of music angle is is you know, firmly fixed 992 00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.159 in the idea of the piano and the cycle of 993 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:33.559 Hermei or Mercury. 994 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:36.920 Excellent man, Yeah, exactly right. So what I've learned is 995 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:41.320 that some teachers that are associated with this solar dynamic. 996 00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:44.880 Their teacher was more polar and their teacher was more 997 00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.960 mercurial basically, right, and so like like Saint John the 998 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:52.280 Baptist as an example, like he's a clear wild man 999 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.039 sort of figure, which relates him to the green Man too, 1000 00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.440 and he's always carrying a staff or a really long 1001 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:02.360 crucifix basically, and so to me, there's mercurial sort of 1002 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.159 signatures all over him and his storyline all day long. 1003 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.880 And then he's you know, he taught Jesus and stuff 1004 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.880 like that. If Jesus belonged to like a sector a school, 1005 00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.519 my understanding is that it would be of Saint John 1006 00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.239 the Baptist. So that's just kind of like another sort 1007 00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:21.440 of you know example there. Yeah, so who brought this 1008 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:21.800 one up? 1009 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:22.719 This image? 1010 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:27.320 This is Heinrich Kuhenroth's his things that he's got going 1011 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.920 on over here. And one thing that I did find 1012 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.119 this interesting, well, I mean, at least if you want, 1013 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.000 I mean it's your I think. 1014 00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.800 No, I mean just when we were doing coon Roth, 1015 00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:43.199 we were looking and I believe this is called the 1016 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:45.920 andrew gene. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and it's 1017 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:50.119 the atom androgen. And if you focus in on the 1018 00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:59.800 actual humanoid that is depicted here. You'll see that the 1019 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:05.119 arms have exactly the same writing as Baphomet does the 1020 01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.639 solvee and quadulile right, And when we stumbled upon it, 1021 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.440 there you go perfect. When we stumbled upon it, immediately 1022 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.719 I thought of the baph Met, right, I was like, 1023 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:18.960 what are the odds? Maybe I don't remember it correctly. 1024 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:23.239 So we went and we looked, and sure enough, Levi 1025 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:30.519 basically sites that his Baphamet illustration was inspired and a 1026 01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:36.320 direct I guess nod to konroths Adam Androgeny. But one 1027 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.320 of the interesting things is, so if you look at 1028 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:43.800 this humanoid that Kuonroth is depicting, you clearly see a 1029 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:48.320 distinction in faces like female male. You see a distinction 1030 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.519 in breast or pectoralis, and you see a distinction in 1031 01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:55.079 the arms. One is more muscular, one is a little 1032 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.800 bit more feminine. And then if you look at the abdomen, 1033 01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.400 the same thing. It's not as pronun else with the 1034 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.480 rib cage kind of coming out with the more masculine 1035 01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.599 one and then having that cut into the waist with 1036 01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.920 the feminine. And so if you look at the bapha Met, 1037 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.239 you do see clear distinctions in pectoralis as well as 1038 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.199 well as the arms corresponding to each and then you 1039 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.159 see that kind of cut in more so on the 1040 01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.679 Elephus Levi depiction, where it shows that that side is 1041 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:27.840 a little bit more feminine than the other one. So 1042 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.199 it was just something that we thought to mention. 1043 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:35.360 Oh no, yeah, that's completely relevant. I actually included Bapphamet 1044 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:40.159 the a leafis Levi illustration in the slides there, so 1045 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.960 if you wanted to go to the tenth slide, that's 1046 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:47.159 what we'll see. And when you look at the phallus 1047 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.719 of Bapphamet, the symbolic pallas, right, I mean it's a 1048 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.920 cadusius and so all a lot of the symbolism, this 1049 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:58.639 androgenous nature and everything completely relevant. And to me personally, 1050 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.960 when I look at that in his lap, I mean 1051 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.400 I just I once again see kind of a world 1052 01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.000 axis symbol and then that arc just reminds me of 1053 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.960 firmament symbolism, you know, So that's how I kind of 1054 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:12.400 perceive it. 1055 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.039 Well, that that Kuna plate looks so similar to the 1056 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.400 art card from Carly's Taro. 1057 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:24.639 Yeah, so exactly exactly, And actually that makes perfect sense too. 1058 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.840 The art card has a lot to do with alchemy, 1059 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:32.760 specifically what I've heard asof alchemy. And on top of 1060 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.519 the two heads there you can see in that bird, 1061 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.440 in the body of the bird, it says Azoth right there, 1062 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:38.519 and it's it's. 1063 01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:40.039 The Azoth for sure. 1064 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:40.559 You know. 1065 01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.480 The whole if you look at it closer, is that 1066 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.760 Azoth is formed from the Latin A and Z. But 1067 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.960 it also is a nod to the Greek A alpha alpha, 1068 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:55.760 and then the omega as well, and then their symbolism. 1069 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:57.760 And there with Hebrew you have the a leaf and 1070 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.000 the towel. So he was constantly doing this, you know, 1071 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.280 trinity type symbolism all throughout with with that, and then 1072 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.400 I think on the oh, you have the sun symbol 1073 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.519 in the center where it's as a's the o itself 1074 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.199 is the Sun's symbol. So you have, you know, a 1075 01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:19.360 nod to the sun gold or sun is the sun 1076 01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:25.519 so right, and it's adam, so the sun is the son. 1077 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:30.679 Excellent. Yeah, yeah, no, I was definitely gonna bring up 1078 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:33.119 baph Met for sure, because. 1079 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:34.159 It really ahead. 1080 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.199 Oh no, no, no, no, definitely, I'm going all over 1081 01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.559 the place, so I don't have like a set structure 1082 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:40.639 or anything like that. 1083 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:42.320 Mercury is all over the place. 1084 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.639 Yes, that's true, Yeah, exactly right. 1085 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:47.800 One thing I do want to add before we go forward. 1086 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:49.199 If anybody would like to be able to look at 1087 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.639 this image more, go check out a whole research institute 1088 01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:52.119 dot org. 1089 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:53.159 This is only. 1090 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:56.440 Just because yeah, there. 1091 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.559 You go, shame, shameless plug. Anything you look at online 1092 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:04.360 for the Adam and drogeny is not clear at all. 1093 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:07.719 But Nick went and took pictures of this at the library, 1094 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.360 and that's when we use for our episode because it 1095 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.000 was the clearest one on the internet. 1096 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.280 So nice, nice. 1097 01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:15.559 Yeah, if you go to check out this guy's book 1098 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.280 on this website, you're not gonna see as much detail 1099 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.960 as you do anywhere else because I went in on 1100 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:21.920 multiple shots. 1101 01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:27.480 So this image here, these two figures, you know, what 1102 01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:30.280 it's reminding me of too, is just how hybrids are 1103 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.000 associated with mercurial symbolism as well. Right, So like murr 1104 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:39.000 made you know, and I even have a card here 1105 01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:41.440 where you see like a mermaid type figure. If you 1106 01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.599 want to go to slide zero zero three in the 1107 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.320 lower left, you'll see a mermaid. But the Murr and 1108 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:53.679 mercury are completely related to each other, and so even Sagittarius, 1109 01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.559 half human, half horse, the centaur. There's so much symbolism 1110 01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:02.119 with Sagittarius that I see as being very mercurial. In fact, 1111 01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:08.119 the glyph of Sagittarius is an arrow right for archery 1112 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:12.159 and crowley. In the Book of Thought right his deck 1113 01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:15.800 is also called the Thought deck. He says that the 1114 01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:20.559 arrow is the simplest glyph of mercury, that it represents mercury. 1115 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.000 And so he says that literally, the arrow of Sagittarius 1116 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.400 is mercurial in nature. So you see down in the 1117 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:31.559 lower left little mermaid sort of figure there. See, even 1118 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.000 in that hybrid creatures relate to mercury in some way. 1119 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.400 Even in that thinking, I would even say, now, I 1120 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.280 would say that the archer is still tooth. 1121 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.400 Yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I see that absolutely. 1122 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:47.119 I mean, what is the arrow? The arrow is another 1123 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.239 phallic in my opinion, phallic sort of world access symbol, 1124 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.880 and it travels right, and so it's a traveler. 1125 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:56.480 Also, I was gonna say, you brought up the murrh. 1126 01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:01.599 There are some of the ancient texts coming out of 1127 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:06.679 Ireland and around in that area where they talk about 1128 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:11.000 the mrr were the ones who built the stone circles. 1129 01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:17.039 Ah, excellent, Yeah, that reminds me too of one thing 1130 01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:21.840 I wanted to talk about the etymology of Mercury, just 1131 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.320 a little thing I personally pay attention to. I fully 1132 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.960 acknowledge this is more of my individual weave or whatever. 1133 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:29.880 So if other people don't find it that interesting, I 1134 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.760 totally get it. But I'm always interested in words that 1135 01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:35.960 begin with er or contain er. And when you look 1136 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.800 at er, there's like civilizations named her, there's games called er. 1137 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.519 There's even groups that have called themselves like er, something 1138 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.559 along these lines. And when you look at er, it 1139 01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:50.199 means like original or primordial or something along these lines, 1140 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.400 like very very ancient, like the beginning of a thing. 1141 01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.000 And so I first got on this tip because of 1142 01:06:56.239 --> 01:07:00.360 Ursa Major and Ursa minor, two northern constellations right that 1143 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.920 circumambulate the Pole Star. And I just think it's interesting 1144 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:09.760 that in Mercury you have two errs Mercury Mercury, right, 1145 01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.039 So it's like almost like this double origin sort of 1146 01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.800 dynamic with it or something along these heads. 1147 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.440 Well, and if you're connecting the Pole Star to the 1148 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:22.000 Earth and those two symbols spinning circularly around the Pole 1149 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:25.599 I mean that could essentially be the pole with the serpents. 1150 01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:27.320 No exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 1151 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:27.679 Yeah. 1152 01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:30.039 And Draco's up there too in the north right, So 1153 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.079 when Draco is going around the pole star, I kind 1154 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:37.639 of see similar symbolism. And then you said Earth Earth, right, 1155 01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:42.760 there's another example. So once you start paying attention to it, 1156 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.960 it really is all over the place. Maybe if you 1157 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.960 want to just go to number two, that's lie number two. 1158 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:55.559 It's the Crowley version of the magician card. And I 1159 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:59.079 just wanted to point out basically that very obvious poll 1160 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.559 behind him, which I think is you know, related to 1161 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:07.400 the world axis and everything else, which seemingly he's levitating 1162 01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.199 up it. It's almost like he's like kind of levitating 1163 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.480 going and you know, through this ascension sort of journey 1164 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:18.359 or whatever. And he was a stude enough too to 1165 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:24.239 do the one legged or one footed sort of thing 1166 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.199 with his foot there. And when I see one legged 1167 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:31.760 symbolism or a symbolism like this, or someone standing on 1168 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.039 a foot or they're acknowledging like their tippy toes not 1169 01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:37.720 in like a ballerina, I always think of spin. And 1170 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:40.840 there's a lot of myths that point out the one leg, 1171 01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:43.840 and to me, it's just another world access symbol. So 1172 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:46.359 the fact that he's in front of that poll, this 1173 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.199 is the first card again, just even literally the number one. 1174 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:52.680 You know how we draw the number one with just 1175 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.319 a straight vertical line. It's the same axis in my opinion, 1176 01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:01.439 But one legged symbolism implies axial sabolism again, kind of 1177 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:06.680 like a ballerina or something, or one leg. It's almost 1178 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:10.720 like there's deities that have had one leg, or they 1179 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.239 have one leg gets chopped off or something along these lines. 1180 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.279 To me, it's just like a poll pretty much. Instead 1181 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:17.880 of having two legs, you have the one leg, or 1182 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:19.399 at least you're alluding to it. And I think that 1183 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.800 that's kind of what he's alluding to here in some way. 1184 01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:26.359 But yeah, if other people want to share some slides, 1185 01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:27.159 they're more than welcome to. 1186 01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:28.720 Jen. I know you have a couple of things you 1187 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:29.439 want to share, right. 1188 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:34.479 Sure, So yeah, thanks guys, Nick, if you want to 1189 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:39.439 bring mine up. I appreciate that. Which one the second one? 1190 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:39.880 First? 1191 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:40.920 Thank you? 1192 01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:41.920 All right? 1193 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.520 I think this will be the second one. Is that correct? 1194 01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:47.119 That's the first one? 1195 01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.039 But why don't I just do that? Sorry, I'll do 1196 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.479 this all Yeah, don't don't worry, don't be sorry. So 1197 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:53.479 this is Ganash. 1198 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:57.079 Obviously everybody's familiar with Ganesh. But he is a mercurial 1199 01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.720 figure because he is the he is the and son 1200 01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:03.880 of what we would say is like Venus or nuts O. 1201 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:09.079 So she creates him out of her humoric powder that 1202 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.520 she wears on her skin and as well as semen 1203 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.680 from Shiva. So the quicksilver, that's how it's often described 1204 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.520 in tntras is the quicksilver, and she puts it in 1205 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:22.520 like a little clay figure or a flower figure. So 1206 01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.600 he's completely created. He's not created through intercourse, right, So, 1207 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:29.279 but he is of Shiva and of her. 1208 01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:30.239 But he's more of her. 1209 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:36.000 So that's and but he doesn't clear mercury in betic astrology, 1210 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.039 so this is a common misconception. Is like in Nash 1211 01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:42.239 will be prayed to to clear the astrological conditions that 1212 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:46.760 are negative in mercury, he actually clears ketu. So it's 1213 01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.279 something that even excuse me, Mario brought up and I 1214 01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:52.680 even texted this to Nick the other day. I also 1215 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:57.520 believe that hoade mercury has a triune expression. I believe 1216 01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:01.640 it's the princess, the princess, the prints and the dragon. 1217 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:06.239 But Kattu, the subtle body, the smoky body that it's 1218 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:10.840 it contains potential, but it's not uh, it's not aggregated. 1219 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.800 So you could say that Ganapati, who is the lord 1220 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:18.359 of hosts gun Us means posts. He is the one 1221 01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:22.279 who creates klipas or creates skandas, or creates like aggregation. 1222 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:25.520 He creates the path, the physical paths, and he also 1223 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:27.079 creates obstacles in front of it. 1224 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.520 But then he can also disaggregate obstacles. 1225 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.560 So it's kind of like how Lisa was saying, there, 1226 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.319 only when you're on Earth can you see the retrograde 1227 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:40.840 of mercury. Well, mercury and retrograde would really be understood 1228 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.159 in a Joe Tish way as being Kattus being that 1229 01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:51.239 southern node of the dragon, so you're seeing it turn 1230 01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:54.680 and then that's what he affixes in astrology. He kind 1231 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.720 of is that curve that like his like his trunk 1232 01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.000 is curved. And it's interesting because he has both up 1233 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.399 and down mudras, just like a kind of a Baphomet figure, 1234 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.520 and he's also depicted as writing his Vahamma is a rat. 1235 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:12.880 Well obviously, Nick is fond of this. But the rats 1236 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.439 and the stars, those are the same thing. But you 1237 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:20.479 could and then you can also say that he is atomized, 1238 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:24.680 like he's very small because rats are small. So he 1239 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.000 in and of himself, just like Lisa is also alluding to, 1240 01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.000 he is the Kingdom in and of himself because he's 1241 01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:35.159 all the parts come together. He's imperfect because he's not 1242 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:39.239 also of the Father. So I just think that that's 1243 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.960 really interesting. He is he's the god of outer wisdom. 1244 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:46.199 This is a more tentric idea, This is not a 1245 01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:49.439 more normative Hindu idea. But he's the god of outer 1246 01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:53.960 wisdom or outer knowledge. Even so, what he teaches is 1247 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:58.000 kind of worldly building. That's what he's often given a 1248 01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:01.600 compass and a globe. So obviously there's a kind of 1249 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.880 a reference there for the prince who squares the circle. 1250 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:10.560 We could say, but I think that that actually the next. 1251 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.479 Figure is much more interesting. Nick, if you help, I'm 1252 01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:14.239 bringing up my side. 1253 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:19.960 Can I help the real quick? So the first, the 1254 01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:26.159 first king of Athens was said to be Ericthonius, who 1255 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:32.479 was the product of the god of the Forge and Athena. 1256 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.800 He couldn't help himself. He you know, he was chasing 1257 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.600 her around because you know, she didn't want to get 1258 01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.640 with him, but you know, he was kind of deformed, 1259 01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:43.600 but he spewed his load on her and it hit 1260 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:46.479 her leg and then fell on the ground. And then Ericthonius, 1261 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.840 which was a snake legged sort of a demigod, was emerged, 1262 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.800 and she took pity on the snake leged demigod and 1263 01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:58.239 took him in, raised him, and he became the first 1264 01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.600 king of Athens. So I think there's a huge linkage 1265 01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.840 right there between the two of them and this god 1266 01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:10.680 of the forge, Hyphestus. His daughter is named Techne, and 1267 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:14.199 just like you were saying about the outer knowledge, you 1268 01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.479 have that idea of Techne being the ability to create 1269 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.720 technology or outer wisdom. 1270 01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:25.840 Well, that's interesting because the daughter who is right here, 1271 01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.000 so she is the daughter, she is the Dakini expression 1272 01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:32.439 of the greater mother. This is how it's understood in Shruvigia. 1273 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.920 So she is the full expression you could say of 1274 01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.680 Hode or Mercury. That is, she's not androgynists, but she. 1275 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:44.920 Has a solitary hero. She's an echa of Europe. 1276 01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.560 And like something Mario said that was very interesting was 1277 01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:52.319 the feat was you can see she's standing on the foot, 1278 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:55.439 and so that would maybe perhaps. 1279 01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:58.680 Match her to nets Ok. 1280 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.720 But then you could also say, if you're doing a 1281 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.880 special kind of visualization where you kind of dance with 1282 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:09.119 the dikini, then those legs become your legs, so she 1283 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.520 can also stand on Hode. 1284 01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:14.760 It's kind of interesting. And she obviously she wields a 1285 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:18.199 bow and arrow, and her arrow is a five tip. 1286 01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.479 It's often a lotus, but sometimes it's a marshmallow flower, 1287 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:22.880 or it could be a. 1288 01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:26.079 Wild rose as well. And she also holds a god. 1289 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.760 The goat is especially interesting because that's also associated with 1290 01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:34.680 Hode and also giverra, so she it's kind of like 1291 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.239 and it's an elephant's gode, so like her, you could 1292 01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:42.520 say her brother Ganapati, but it also clears the dragon. 1293 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.920 But unlike her brother, she actually doesn't clear Katsuo the 1294 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:52.319 Smoky Tale. She actually stands on the the it's called 1295 01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:55.520 the demons the Mara of Desire. But there's a kind 1296 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.680 of other way you can understand it, where she's standing 1297 01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:03.720 on a rahu, so the dragon who eclipses the moon. 1298 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.560 She could also say that it's the inherent connection that 1299 01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:12.479 code and Yesode or mercury and the moon have because 1300 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:17.119 those have an inherent sort of connection of rectification of 1301 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.960 the paths, like it happens at Yusodes, So there's something 1302 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:24.520 really interesting there. But she doesn't just stay at the moon. 1303 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.399 She actually sort of goes up. And her name is 1304 01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.960 Kura Kula, so you can hear there's like a double k. 1305 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:36.760 And there's also an interesting cabalistic association with her, with 1306 01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.359 her name in Tibetan which is Regemma, which is love 1307 01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.800 as the cause of knowledge. Well, there's also the twenty 1308 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.720 second path on the cobalistic tree, which is geburrah to 1309 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:52.119 tippery that is also associated with lamed meme delette, which 1310 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:53.880 means love is the cause of knowledge. 1311 01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:56.319 That I find that very interesting myself. 1312 01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:59.359 And so you have this kind of daughter who's dancing 1313 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:03.039 in the heatless that's how it's described, and she kind 1314 01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:06.840 of rectifies then sun with her arrow, which is set 1315 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:10.359 to treat all poisons. But then you can also understand 1316 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:13.600 this in a secret way where she is the rectification 1317 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.840 of quicksilver. So I know this was a little bit 1318 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.760 back when you guys first started, but that's what her 1319 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:25.760 primary function is. Intibt medical tantras is to rectify this 1320 01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:32.319 naturally occurring quicksilver for medicinal use. So there's actually three 1321 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:37.199 distinct ways to purify mercury. One is the natural method, 1322 01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:41.039 where you let the mercury drip through seven stages of Earth. 1323 01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:45.680 Another method is the alchemical method with like an iambic 1324 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:48.640 and you sort of process the mercury in seven stages. 1325 01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:52.279 And then the third way is a matric or an 1326 01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:57.439 alchemical magical way where you recite Dorani sutras and different 1327 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:01.520 spells and different visualizations oh for the mercury. And then 1328 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.600 which is also seven stages. And then there's a way 1329 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.560 that you can combine all three stages into one. So 1330 01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:10.840 it is sort of I think Mario brought this up, 1331 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.760 this kind of rectification of the three. In the one, 1332 01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:18.880 she's a very interesting and also corresponding idea in Christian Cabala. 1333 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.239 So in the green she has blue green eyes. 1334 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:27.600 This is really important because her eyes could be said 1335 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:32.680 to be a reflection of Hesse or Jupiter, because Hod, 1336 01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:37.399 the heart of Hoad, is really the expression of Mercy greater. 1337 01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:39.359 So it's like I think Nick was saying, it's like 1338 01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:42.199 that the arrow shoots and it kind of like bounces 1339 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:43.600 off the ocean, because you have to think of the 1340 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:47.199 arrow as like a particle of light, almost like a flower, 1341 01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:49.279 like a quicksilver flower, flower of. 1342 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:51.079 Quicksilver using out chemical terms. 1343 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:54.359 So it's sort of like a firework that explodes over 1344 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:59.840 the ocean, bounces back through and then moves up to 1345 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.760 treat like a zig zag. So you could also think of. 1346 01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:05.239 It like that. I think that's kind of interesting. 1347 01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:05.960 And then. 1348 01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:08.680 Sorry, guys, I do. 1349 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.680 Have notes, uh, something I wanted to add just real 1350 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.720 quick with like you know, the heatless fire and fire 1351 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:14.920 and this and that. If I was to light a 1352 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:16.840 candle in this room and turn off all of lights 1353 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.239 and went to all the way to the other end, 1354 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.199 the light coming off of it wouldn't hurt. As soon 1355 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:24.880 as I get closer to it, that's it's gonna burn. 1356 01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:28.159 So I mean, it really is kind of projective maybe 1357 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:29.880 if the heat anyway, m. 1358 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:35.960 I mean, just a general perspective, it looks like she's 1359 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:39.279 dancing in the patina of copper. You know, you've got 1360 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:41.600 all that orange and then she's got the green coming 1361 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.720 around her. It's it's really got that kind of middle 1362 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.119 ground of patina and copper still you know, right. 1363 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:52.800 Well there's Something interesting about that hedless is that she 1364 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:56.560 so the heat the fire around her is heatless. It's 1365 01:19:56.600 --> 01:20:01.720 called pristine wisdom fire. And then she she stands upon 1366 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.199 the lotus, and then you see she has two dikinis 1367 01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.880 at her feet, So if you will almost put her 1368 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.600 at your sead on the tree, you could think of 1369 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:15.640 it like that. So then there's coad and netsc beneath her, 1370 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:20.079 So she's rectifying the two paths beneath her oxidation. 1371 01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.640 Oxidation could be said to be heatless fire. 1372 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:30.079 Well, that's right, and so quicksilver, obviously, as we said, 1373 01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:36.039 oxidizes copper, So there is that element of the greening. 1374 01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:38.600 Of copper that happens at nutsock, right. 1375 01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.600 And then she's also wielding the emerald fire in her 1376 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.640 eyes if you think of it like having green eyes, 1377 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:48.680 but the fire is reflected in your eyes. But it's 1378 01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:52.880 also an expression of the higher sphere of mercy or 1379 01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:55.720 the ocean. It's like almost the reflection of the blue 1380 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.439 green ocean, and you're looking at it, you're perceiving it. 1381 01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:03.279 And so she has the mind of the father. That's 1382 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:04.479 just really interesting to me. 1383 01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:07.560 But she's also the rectification of the mother, because she's 1384 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:10.520 a virgin, So to bring up thing about virgo, I 1385 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:16.000 think that's also really interesting. Does even I think that's all? 1386 01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:16.600 I think that's all? 1387 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:16.840 I am? 1388 01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:17.239 Sorry? 1389 01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:17.840 Sorry, Nick? 1390 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:18.760 This even I don't know? 1391 01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:24.199 Is this even like kind of stretch but reminds me 1392 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.479 of empedically he is talking about aphrodity dancing as a 1393 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:27.640 flame in the back of our rival. 1394 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:30.279 Yeah, totally. 1395 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.119 Well, she's a daikini of love right. Oh, that's the 1396 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.680 other thing, magnetization. So she's a red Dakini in the 1397 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.600 Padma or Lotus family. Her primary function is magnetization. Now 1398 01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.159 what does this mean? This means personal power. This means 1399 01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:50.800 attracting things to you, attracting people to you. But it's 1400 01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:55.520 not because it's Buddhist magic rather than like sorcery, or 1401 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:56.960 you could say it's Buddhist sorcery. 1402 01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.119 Maybe is that the. 1403 01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:01.920 Idea is it's desireless desire to go with like the 1404 01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:03.199 idea of the heatless fire. 1405 01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:06.600 It's like she she's love, but it's it's not the 1406 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:07.600 vessel of love. 1407 01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:10.119 It's not the cleeper or the skanda of love, or 1408 01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:13.119 even the marara the poison of love. It's actually the 1409 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:16.640 rectification of it because it's just luminous and empty. She's 1410 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.720 there and she's not there. She's the primordial truth kind 1411 01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:22.239 of you could say, So I like dancing and sometimes 1412 01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:24.600 you see her at the moon and sometimes you don't, 1413 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.399 but doesn't negate the fact that she is there. That's 1414 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.159 what sort of like the metaphor, right, like, the truth 1415 01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:32.760 is the truth, regardless of we recognize it or not. 1416 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:34.239 I don't know. 1417 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.800 I think it's dupe, you. 1418 01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:38.239 Know, something something something with this. 1419 01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:40.680 Now you were saying you think that I guess whatever 1420 01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:42.640 that thing is that she's standing on that would be netsuck. 1421 01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:44.439 Is that what you were saying before? 1422 01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:45.960 I think no, I think it's. 1423 01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.039 Your son, because she's standing on a moon disk. If 1424 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.520 you read the text that goes with the image, it's 1425 01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:54.199 called the moon dist But there's other times where she 1426 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.079 can stand on a sun disc. And when she stands 1427 01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.920 on the sun disk, actually her leg is standing on 1428 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:01.960 the other foot. 1429 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:05.439 Yeah, well, I guess that Actually that actually works better 1430 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:07.880 with what I was thinking, because I just looking at 1431 01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:10.279 this out again and going with the dancing and the 1432 01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:11.000 way that she's bent. 1433 01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:13.239 You know, this is a stretch. 1434 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.199 Thinking about the hyloid canal, and if she was on 1435 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.279 top of the lens, that would determine which way, which 1436 01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:22.079 way the light's gonna go. You know, you're gonna be 1437 01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:24.119 sucking it in, you know, I don't know, I could 1438 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.039 see like switching a polarity in a sense. 1439 01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:29.439 Well that's what it is, right, because it's like, it's 1440 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:33.960 interesting because you can say that the daughter is like 1441 01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:37.680 the fifth, like there's the it's yadevab. But then if 1442 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:39.840 you add the dragon in, because if you're saying that 1443 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.039 hode is tripartite, there's three expressions. 1444 01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:47.439 But she also stands on rahu, there's two expressions right there. 1445 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:49.600 Right, she stood on both legs, she'd be straight, and 1446 01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:51.640 now she's on one and she's curved. So like it, 1447 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:54.640 I would see that as the hyloid canal being you know, 1448 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.520 extended all the way and the pupil being bigger. And 1449 01:23:57.560 --> 01:23:59.399 then when she's bent, it's because it's pulled back and 1450 01:23:59.439 --> 01:23:59.880 the pupils. 1451 01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:03.840 Yeah, and I agree with that. 1452 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:06.600 You know, maybe the arrow was even showing the tension 1453 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:08.319 of pulling up, pushing to I don't. 1454 01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:12.079 Know, yeah, pulling, pulling, because you're calling that's one of 1455 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:13.199 her powers. 1456 01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.359 I guess you could say it's the calling of names 1457 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.880 or the naming of things. So the arrow is like 1458 01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:21.319 the light or the color. 1459 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.079 You could say the name of the color or the 1460 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:27.560 name of the word that sort of names the things 1461 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.439 that we see. So I definitely think that there is 1462 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.119 like a relationship between like perception and the icon. 1463 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:39.800 Well, that does sort of the heatless fire because there's 1464 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:41.960 no way to stop it. There's no way to stop 1465 01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:45.600 any of the oxidation process. So as you're as you're 1466 01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.439 looking at it, there's no way of preventing it. There's 1467 01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:52.760 you know, you're not the one doing it. It's always happening, 1468 01:24:52.920 --> 01:24:55.079 and it's it's not something that can be stopped. 1469 01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:59.840 Well, in Buddhist ontology, we would say that desire is 1470 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:04.800 cause of the kind of negative aggregation of heat, so 1471 01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:08.760 she is desireless desire. It kind of rectifies that paradox. 1472 01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:10.840 That's how we would describe it. I'm not saying that 1473 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.399 people ought to believe that, but that is how we 1474 01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:17.039 would describe it. Is that she the oxygen day oxidization 1475 01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:20.199 is happening. But because she is literally flux like an 1476 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:25.079 aon in flux, she's dancing. She it doesn't matter because 1477 01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:28.319 we're not grasping. We're not like planet like the planetary 1478 01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:32.239 deities are the grass, the graspers, So we don't grasp 1479 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:34.800 for we're not supposed to anyway. Of course, we obviously do, 1480 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.760 but when we do that, we create aggregation like her brother, 1481 01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:41.840 like he creates the pass or the tunnels. 1482 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.880 You could even say between the stears. But she kind 1483 01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.039 of lets that go. Everything's kind of like free. You're 1484 01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.399 like kind of like okay, I'm not attached to it, 1485 01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:51.199 like I can. 1486 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.840 Let it go like it's okay because it's like love. 1487 01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:56.880 That's the whole idea is that she rectifies it through love. 1488 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:01.000 Yeah, dude, this is beautiful man, and I love everything 1489 01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:04.920 you're sharing. And it just reminds me of some of 1490 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:08.880 the symbolism related to Sagittarius, right, because he is the archer. 1491 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:12.560 But what I've heard, like with keyudo, which is like 1492 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.600 a martial art of archery in Japan, that the whole 1493 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:19.000 entire thing is that the hardest part to master is 1494 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:21.680 actually letting go of the arrow, and that you're not 1495 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:24.119 trying to hit the target, you allow the target to 1496 01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:25.600 be hit. So it just kind of reminds me of 1497 01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:28.880 some of what you're talking about with desire, right, not desiring, 1498 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.640 And then that also kind of reminds me too a 1499 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.880 little bit this heatless fire thing of Sagittarius too, because Sagittarius, 1500 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:39.199 if I'm not mistaken, is like the mutable fire sign, 1501 01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:41.800 and so if there ever is a sign that is 1502 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.239 like more symbolic of heatless fire, I think you can 1503 01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:47.079 kind of maybe say that Sagittarius is versus the other 1504 01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:50.960 fire signs. So just a few observations here. 1505 01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:54.640 It would be the ultimate flow state. 1506 01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:03.319 And looking at the outline of her encapsulation, it has 1507 01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:10.560 a kind of abstract face, with her head being a 1508 01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:17.000 kind of elongated third eye and her robes being her eyes, 1509 01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:21.800 and the robes very much remind me of snakes. 1510 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:24.439 Well, she's wearing thirteen Nagas. 1511 01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.560 Let me just say that she's wearing okay, so they 1512 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:32.199 are okay, Yeah, she wears the the no, don't be sorry, 1513 01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.359 she wears the thirteen Naga Kings, So the kings of 1514 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:38.560 the what it's the sort of the supernal ocean, or not, 1515 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:41.880 excuse me, the Blood Ocean, the Kings of the Blood Ocean. 1516 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.920 She's wearing that as her bridal jewelry. 1517 01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:47.920 So they are snakes, and they kind of look like 1518 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:51.479 eyes if you are looking at abstractly. I was gonna 1519 01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:58.000 say with Ganesha too, he like mercury is everywhere right 1520 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.920 like his there's this story with him. He and Vishnu 1521 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:06.800 are competing to see who can travel the world fastest, 1522 01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:11.920 and Vishnu is very fast and uh uh Ganesh has 1523 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:16.159 a rat to roll on. But everywhere he goes Mercury 1524 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:17.920 slash Ganesh is there. 1525 01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:25.800 Well, there's something interesting right like because is like he's 1526 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.359 the He's like the production of synthesis, Like he's like 1527 01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:33.159 the product of what happens when the mother is left 1528 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:37.079 to her own devices. So in a way, he's incomplete, 1529 01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:41.319 whereas Vishnu is the worldly hero in like how Nick said, 1530 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:42.199 like the hero's journey. 1531 01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:44.359 Vishnu can take off, he can. 1532 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:47.920 Fly on his garuda and travel the whole tree and 1533 01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.800 go up and become the what's called the lion king. 1534 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.159 We talked about this when we did Leo. It is 1535 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:55.960 like norm Simha. And then what happens. He eats heaven 1536 01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:59.119 because his desire grows, he starts to eat all the 1537 01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:00.199 people in the palace us. 1538 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:03.479 Whereas this is a this is more Buddhist. 1539 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:07.279 So Ghanapati is more of like a lesser figure, but 1540 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:12.119 he's often included in images with her because they share 1541 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:16.000 this like more paronic or more Indian connection, but they're 1542 01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:19.359 also in the same Buddha family, this lotus family. 1543 01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:20.680 So he's really a. 1544 01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.159 Subordinated deity in Buddhism to her, where she is like 1545 01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:29.800 a complete Buddha. But he he, he's an expression of 1546 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:31.800 a Buddha. He's like a form of Buddha can take. 1547 01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:33.920 That's how thought of. I know that's kind of weird, 1548 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:35.399 but it is. 1549 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:38.560 That's more how it's so she's more of the higher expression, 1550 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:42.520 just like she stands on ketu or not kato excuse me, rahu, 1551 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:44.600 and he stands on ketu, which is. 1552 01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.079 Kind of the lesser expression of the dragon or the 1553 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:49.479 lesser power, you could. 1554 01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:54.600 Say, because she's able to fully his His whole desire is, 1555 01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:57.680 at least in Buddhism, is that the dragon wants to 1556 01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.920 climb back up. It's like he's he feels unfairly. 1557 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:04.760 Knocked back down. He feels like the. 1558 01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:09.840 Middle tier deities haven't like given him a fair shot 1559 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:15.880 at ejection from the QB. But in Buddhism, he's it's saying, 1560 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:19.239 oh yeah, okay, team dragon, like let's go, let's move up, 1561 01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:22.520 like let's do the upward lightning strike and the downward 1562 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:24.600 lightning strike, like both of those things, are. 1563 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:29.159 You So another observation here, man, I mean this is 1564 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:34.640 pretty loaded. I really like looking at this. But so 1565 01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:42.319 sagittarius corresponds with the thighs, and thigh symbolism is closely 1566 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:45.760 related to leg symbolism. But the femur is like the 1567 01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:49.239 largest bone, strongest bone we have in our body, and 1568 01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:52.760 so it does have like a lot of significance to it. 1569 01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:55.720 And then I'm just kind of noticing a few things 1570 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.359 about her thigh. I don't know if her right foot 1571 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:02.359 is intended to kind of like bring our attention to 1572 01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.840 her thigh with the leg that she's standing on. And 1573 01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.279 then just the fact too that like the breath of 1574 01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:10.720 the figure she's standing on is like going towards the 1575 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.880 thigh as well, I think is kind of interesting. It 1576 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.039 just seems like there is like some attention kind of 1577 01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:21.399 being drawn towards that area. So I just had to 1578 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:22.520 mention that just briefly. 1579 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:26.399 Well, absolutely, I mean that's why her foot is protecting 1580 01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:30.119 her Yoni right, Like it is the sort of idea 1581 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.039 that it's up to her. 1582 01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:36.359 It's just it's totally her choice, Like her will, her choice, 1583 01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:40.239 no access. Yuess, this is what I'm trying to. 1584 01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:41.399 Say, Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 1585 01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:43.159 And then there's also. 1586 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:46.840 Something interesting about Ghana Patti as we call him, is 1587 01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:50.319 that he can be depicted as a bachelor deity, but 1588 01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.640 in Buddhism, when he's a contract. 1589 01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:56.800 Deity, he's actually has a he's lithopae like that as well. 1590 01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:00.840 He has a huge erection, say, and he is depicted 1591 01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:05.239 with his two wives, So there's something also interesting there, 1592 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.479 like he can he can be like chased, or he 1593 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:09.319 can be very. 1594 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:11.239 Sexual, very contrict sexual. 1595 01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.279 What I like to do, what I like to do 1596 01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.600 with the images that you show is to kind of 1597 01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:20.720 let my eyes blur a little bit and see if 1598 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:24.479 there are any other kind of esoteric images. And in 1599 01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:28.399 this case, what I see is the nagas that she's 1600 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.920 wearing kind of form these two eyes, and below that, 1601 01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:36.079 below what she's standing on is this kind of lotus mouth, 1602 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:41.119 and then the two dahities below her kind of start 1603 01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:45.560 to make a kind of DNA spiral just from the 1604 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.880 contrast to the colors. And if you if you think 1605 01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:52.520 about her third eye that would be right in the 1606 01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:56.359 yoni right there, that she's that she's covering and sort 1607 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:59.800 of like the crown chakra above that would be the 1608 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:03.359 the fire above that. Do you kind of see what 1609 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:03.960 I'm looking at? 1610 01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:08.840 Absolutely well, as you know, Haveless, we don't use the 1611 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.680 seven system in TNTRA. 1612 01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:14.800 We use five. But so you're right in that that 1613 01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.560 her where her third eye would be, where would be 1614 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:19.880 the crown chakra in the threaten system. 1615 01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:23.680 But it's not because as I was saying when Lisa 1616 01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.399 brought up the thing about the nerve, like how quicksilver 1617 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:29.800 treats nerve diseases or nerve pain. 1618 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.079 So it also causes nerve damage. 1619 01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:37.399 But interesting, but it because of the way that the 1620 01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:41.479 I guess you could say the lingam or the penis 1621 01:33:41.640 --> 01:33:44.479 is connected. There's the green light that's not the tip 1622 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:47.159 that's it's considered to be its own chakra. So what 1623 01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.920 you do in visualization is you you take the green 1624 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:54.920 light and you move it up all the way up, 1625 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:57.279 so there's an idea that you move it to your 1626 01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.279 throat and then you can move it to your upper 1627 01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:03.880 So when you do this emerald light, that is what 1628 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:07.840 her thing is. It's it's like it's this purified mercury 1629 01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:10.720 is really what it is. Or purified emerald. So it's 1630 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:13.960 like it's like a philosopher's stone kind of like it's 1631 01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:17.239 like it doesn't have any aggregation, doesn't have any lust, 1632 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:18.560 it doesn't have any desire. 1633 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:19.760 It's totally gone. 1634 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:22.560 It's just like it's just like love in this empty 1635 01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:26.079 which is luminous and massless way, it just like exists. 1636 01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:27.800 It's just like ephemeral. It's like pink. 1637 01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:31.119 And we even spoke about this several times, and I 1638 01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:34.000 know Tea's just spoken about this, but pink as a 1639 01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:37.239 spectral color, and that's really her color is like pink. 1640 01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:40.359 It's like a color that exists and doesn't exist. Our 1641 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:43.840 mind kind of projects it onto a crystal matrix. 1642 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.680 Well, I was thinking more along the lines of the 1643 01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:51.640 type of meditation that would get you over the abyss, 1644 01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:55.279 Like it's not something you can form, you know, it's 1645 01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:57.920 not something you can you know, push your way into it. 1646 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.880 If she's the one kind of blo balking the third 1647 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:04.640 eye from having any access to force, it would have 1648 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:07.880 to be on her terms or in that sort of 1649 01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:08.760 heatless fire. 1650 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:11.039 This is where I get into where I think you 1651 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:13.079 need the male and female to work hand in hand 1652 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:15.479 right make things happen. 1653 01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:19.960 That pink reminds me of Mauv and Kenneth Grant, you know, 1654 01:35:20.119 --> 01:35:23.359 wrote about going beyond the Mav Zone, and that's like 1655 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:25.159 a whole entire thing. I have not read that book, 1656 01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:27.000 but it kind of looks similar to MAV a little 1657 01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:27.279 bit too. 1658 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:30.199 Well, there is there is that idea, right like when 1659 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:34.399 it's that color, that mauve, like that darker purple color, 1660 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:40.319 that's a different expression of the female power or the force. 1661 01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:43.920 Like you brought up forest headless. Well, the female Dikinis 1662 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.920 are the force of the Buddhas. They are they are 1663 01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:51.640 like the kind of expression of you could say eminence 1664 01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:53.680 in the world. That's that's not a perfect way to 1665 01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:55.720 describe it, but that's one way to describe. It's like 1666 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:59.439 the breath flowing outwards and then it takes expression in light. 1667 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:05.680 So they so she isn't blocking she do is a 1668 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:09.840 you could say that she is existence appearance. 1669 01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:12.479 She's what appears in front of us, just like I said, 1670 01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:14.840 she's dancing at the moon. But what is also at 1671 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:17.159 ya seaud you sad is also the threshold to death. 1672 01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.560 It's one of them because there's also access from differ 1673 01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:22.199 but you can also access it through death. So it 1674 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.039 is crossing the abyss in a way, but it's it's 1675 01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:26.640 doing it without desire. 1676 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:27.960 It's kind of you've. 1677 01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:30.560 Traveled up already and then you're coming back down and 1678 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:34.159 you're saying, Okay, it's actually here, and I'm able to 1679 01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:34.720 access that. 1680 01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:38.239 At any time, and I will walk through. When I 1681 01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:38.800 walk through. 1682 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:42.119 Instead of graspment, you're kind of letting it go, Like 1683 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:44.560 Nick has talked about this, like when you go to 1684 01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:45.439 have magical. 1685 01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:48.000 Experiences, you kind of just let it flow. That's what 1686 01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:50.640 her whole idea is. She's dancing, she's flexible. 1687 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:53.239 As some would say, you can't lost the results. 1688 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:54.960 That's right. 1689 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:56.840 Mm hm, there you go. 1690 01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.800 When I find may interject, I think this image perfectly 1691 01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:04.399 describes mercury. And the reason that I believe that is 1692 01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:07.159 because so when you first find mercury, you find it 1693 01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:11.279 in cinemar or vermillion or whatever, and it's red inside 1694 01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:13.840 is mercury now. And I don't know if you said 1695 01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:18.760 this already, agent, but the only I guess element that 1696 01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:24.039 helps to separate all of the impurities away from gold, 1697 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.239 or the way that you get pure gold is through 1698 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.319 distilling it with mercury. And so when you look at 1699 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:33.319 this image. You know that mercury is inside and she's 1700 01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:35.239 sitting on top of a lotus, right, is that what 1701 01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:38.920 you said? And lotus is known to follow the sun 1702 01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:42.800 or to open with the sun, almost illuminating what is 1703 01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:45.680 inside with the sun. And so you were talking about 1704 01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:50.359 how she identifies and names things. She's giving illumination to 1705 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:54.720 what is and she's kind of uncovering or shining a 1706 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.800 light onto that because of the mercury that has helped 1707 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:03.920 to distill, that has helped to distill the pure gold. 1708 01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:08.039 And I think gold in Buddhism represents the sun, doesn't it? 1709 01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:09.399 Or am I wrong? 1710 01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:11.039 No, You're you're right. 1711 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.319 Because there's a secret meaning of red is that red 1712 01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:20.159 actually transformed in Tntra into gold rather than rather than 1713 01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:23.760 at rubido into cicernaitis. Robbie and I actually spoke about 1714 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.960 this too, is that there's a the order of transformations 1715 01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:31.520 is different, a little different in Tontra or the meanings 1716 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:36.439 that the little more articulated differently, not necessarily different, as 1717 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:38.279 in the meaning is different, but I think that the 1718 01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:40.600 maybe the process is slightly different. 1719 01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:45.000 Gotcha, okay, But I thought that was. 1720 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.319 Really beautiful that you said that Lisa, so thank you 1721 01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:49.119 so much, and I agree with you. I think she 1722 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:54.319 perfectly embodies from a secret knowledge perspective, because that's what 1723 01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:57.520 she is, the goddess of secret knowledge, rather than than 1724 01:38:57.600 --> 01:38:59.760 a Patti, who is the god of, like I said, 1725 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:03.840 exterior knowledge, or maybe even exterior wisdom. Because though the 1726 01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:07.000 female concerts are really wisdom. So that's also something interesting 1727 01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:12.039 about Ganesh that he can embody a kind of superficial wisdom, 1728 01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:15.720 like also the superficial wisdom at Tifferate. Sometimes that can 1729 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:21.760 be institutional knowledge, institutional wisdom. Institutional science is very tipperatic, 1730 01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:25.439 so that is, but it's super it's kind of like 1731 01:39:25.640 --> 01:39:28.800 it's shallow in a way. It's not inherently shallow, but 1732 01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:33.399 the way the public perceives that knowledge is shallow, not 1733 01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:34.560 understanding it fully. 1734 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:40.920 Well, I think you've also got the ideas of Gemini 1735 01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:44.920 perfectly encompass there too. You've got sort of the elevated Gemini, 1736 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:48.880 and then you've got the lower Gemini represented in the Tikinis. 1737 01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:50.600 And then the figures on top of her head. 1738 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:56.159 Well, it's not they're not above her. Like in Buddhism 1739 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:59.560 we would say that the figures above her are the 1740 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:04.520 hot are a different expression in a world of formlessness. 1741 01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:09.479 So she is formless, but she's also existence appearance, meaning 1742 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:12.640 just like Lisa said, like the sun's rays, like what 1743 01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:15.920 you see in the world, Maha maya, it's like the 1744 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.359 it's just the light illuminating the planets and the stars. 1745 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:22.439 It's just the illumination of the garden or the carnal ground. 1746 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:27.039 So that's that's what it is. But she's also rectifying 1747 01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:29.079 the sun. He's also there, as you can see in 1748 01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:33.119 the upward image. That's a that's a called havazra. So 1749 01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:37.560 it's a couple in in coitus. So her name, I'll 1750 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.560 just get it because we're looking on it. But her 1751 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:45.399 name is she without fixed self. And his means diamond, 1752 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:50.479 thunder breath or the Adamantine breath, so he when they're 1753 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:55.079 in union, it is his thought that gives expression that 1754 01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:57.880 she then takes form in the world as a dikini. 1755 01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:01.119 But it's not really it's not that they're distinct, is 1756 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.520 what I'm saying. That she's just an expression of that, 1757 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.640 but in herself, she's also the fullness. 1758 01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:13.000 That perfectly describes consumption, because when you think of the 1759 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.039 shape of sperm cell, it's almost time in light, and 1760 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:20.079 when you think of an o site or an ovum, 1761 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:23.520 it is formless, so to speak, and it doesn't begin 1762 01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:27.800 to take form until the diamond has penetrated into the 1763 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:33.399 ovum itself. And granted they color coat this stuff, but 1764 01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:38.560 at the moment of entry of the actual sermatozoa into 1765 01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:44.479 the ovum, you have about six thousand, six hundred thousand 1766 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.479 zinc ions explode, and so you almost have a glow 1767 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.359 around it, and it's like a zinc it's like a 1768 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.119 zinc bomb or something, but it has that green glow. 1769 01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.640 And I know that they put it under a bioluminescence, 1770 01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.039 but that's the color they chose. 1771 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:05.399 Calcium reaction, do what, It's the zinc calcium reaction. 1772 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:08.560 Yes, yes, but it has to do with zinc mainly 1773 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.439 because of the amount of zinc ions packed in within 1774 01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:15.279 the zone of pellucida of the ovum, and. 1775 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:19.600 Zinc would be the metal of Jupiter or you know, 1776 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:23.439 basically the father of mercury. And you know, gestation requires 1777 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:30.159 zero concentration, it requires absolutely no conscious effort on the 1778 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:33.119 part of the mother other than to feed herself and 1779 01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:37.239 you know everything else. It's it's perfectly sort of like 1780 01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:42.319 it does it all on its own, you know, no 1781 01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:43.439 desire necessary. 1782 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:45.479 Yeah, I mean you do have a lot of shutting 1783 01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:49.680 down of a lot of physiological processes by the fetus 1784 01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.840 to quiet the mother so that she doesn't reject the 1785 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:55.560 fetus because he is half he or she is half 1786 01:42:55.680 --> 01:43:00.560 foreign to her. So that's I mean, yeah, I mean much. 1787 01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:05.760 Great stuff. Jen, Dude, that was awesome. 1788 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:05.920 Man. 1789 01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:09.319 Well, thank you guys, and thank you Lisa, And I 1790 01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:11.560 just want to end on that. I know that Lisa's 1791 01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:15.079 talked about like a forty nine day cycle for just station. 1792 01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:16.960 And also there's also. 1793 01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.000 An idea maybe of her as Perth and the genesis maybe, 1794 01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:24.680 or the idea of like your sort of ancestral eggs, 1795 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:29.239 your ancestral ovums, like she like the matrilineal. 1796 01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:31.199 The mRNA you could even say, and that that's what 1797 01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:31.520 it is. 1798 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:33.560 I could see that too, And I think that there's 1799 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:37.920 room in Tantra for all of the expressions of like interpretation. 1800 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:39.439 So thank you guys. 1801 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:42.239 That's a that's a really interesting fun fact that I 1802 01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:47.319 think sometimes people don't realize. So like, for instance, the 1803 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:52.359 ovums that that I would carry were first generated or 1804 01:43:52.399 --> 01:43:55.800 synthesized in my great grandmother right and then passed on 1805 01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:59.760 and so you carry their at least females carry the 1806 01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:04.319 end ancestral lineage of their grandmother's ovums as they were 1807 01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:06.920 developed and so forth. And then yes, it is a 1808 01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:13.000 mitochondrial DNA that is only passed maternally to all you know, 1809 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:16.319 obviously male and female, but it's it's a natural line. 1810 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:21.159 Also interesting to note that we just passed Epiphany and 1811 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:26.159 Mary Magdalene is often celebrated in Epiphany with the production 1812 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.600 of the red eggs. So also something very interesting about 1813 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:33.279 that and like what we're talking about in ovum and 1814 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:34.680 like a daughter and red. 1815 01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:39.039 And yes, it's interesting because Nick and I have kind 1816 01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:40.800 of done some deep dives on that. 1817 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:43.800 Yeah, you know what I find interesting Homily thirty three 1818 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:45.600 is what determined she was a prostitute. 1819 01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:50.079 Mm hmmmm. 1820 01:44:53.079 --> 01:44:55.119 Uh TJ. These are your slides. I know you only 1821 01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:56.680 had two of them. I don't know if you wanted 1822 01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:58.960 to get it on these now of course let's getting 1823 01:44:58.960 --> 01:44:59.239 too late. 1824 01:44:59.279 --> 01:45:00.720 Well yeah, I even just I want to add with 1825 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:04.640 like the sperm entering the egg too, because I've had 1826 01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:09.119 very spiritual experiences where that's like happened to me, where 1827 01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:11.800 like I am the sperm and I have to navigate 1828 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.439 through the body into the and find the egg. 1829 01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:17.800 And yeah, it's not the first sperm that gets to 1830 01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:18.159 the egg. 1831 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:21.199 And you once you get to the egg, you have 1832 01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:24.560 to vibrationally align with that egg. You almost need a 1833 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:28.199 pass code as a messenger as well. So that's that's 1834 01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:31.359 even in like different kind of spiritual experiences, you get 1835 01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:33.399 to the door of the castle and they're like, what 1836 01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:36.720 does the magic word to get through? Or whatever it's 1837 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:38.880 it was that's the best way I can describe what 1838 01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:40.119 my experiences were like. 1839 01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:42.319 So I think that just adds to that and fits 1840 01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:43.600 with the messenger of it all. 1841 01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:46.720 Ask you about the way to swallows or some shit 1842 01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:47.239 when you get to. 1843 01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:50.880 Me. 1844 01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:53.960 That that is true in that the sperm and the 1845 01:45:54.039 --> 01:45:56.720 egg are basically calling to each other once the sperm 1846 01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.560 enters into the vaginal canal. And it's almost like cicadas 1847 01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:04.439 when they call to each other or mating mating birds 1848 01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:08.079 between each other. They identify each other's vibration within the 1849 01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:12.000 song or whatever, and they're calling to each other. Yeah, 1850 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:14.520 that's and that's true. It's not the fastest, it's not 1851 01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.960 the longest. It's which one vibrates the best with the 1852 01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:19.359 actual ocum. 1853 01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:23.520 Well with the with the Greek mythology, they say that 1854 01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:27.520 the very first born was this finest Protogonos, who erupts 1855 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:29.520 out of the orphic egg, which is the egg with 1856 01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:33.479 the snake wrapped around it. So you've got that egg 1857 01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:38.359 and sperm symbolism right there. And also Fahanes was this 1858 01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:42.560 burst of light going back to that zinc calcium reaction. 1859 01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:49.000 And also, uh, it looks so like the original uh 1860 01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:54.560 version of Fainest looks so much like that magician card 1861 01:46:55.119 --> 01:47:00.319 from from the thought Tarrow that it's really hard not 1862 01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:05.640 to draw the linkage between faunas and mercury as well. 1863 01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:10.920 And also that would really put a lot of weight 1864 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:16.359 behind mercury as being the central figure of everything because 1865 01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:20.159 of the fact that Protogonos means first born and this 1866 01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:23.000 is like the first born, and then from that everything 1867 01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:26.119 is burst out. So you've also got the idea of 1868 01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:30.760 the big bang sort of packed into this mercury symbolism. 1869 01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:39.640 Here we go, i'd back to here, and I know 1870 01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:43.000 we've been seeing how like the there, we've been associating 1871 01:47:43.039 --> 01:47:47.000 the color green, and you know, like there's also this 1872 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.880 side of the orange. One thing that's kind of cool 1873 01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:50.760 is that was a chef at a restaurant called the 1874 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:59.399 Green Door, and my dish guy's name was Ganesh. So 1875 01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:03.479 I just have this included. That there is a pat 1876 01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:07.319 tone color called Hermes Orange. There is a very famous 1877 01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:12.239 purse by the company Hermes in Paris, Hermes Paris pair 1878 01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:19.640 twins Gemini and the orange bag. Mercury oxide is like 1879 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:21.720 you can find it in batteries, you can find it 1880 01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:24.520 in makeup and all these kinds of things. And it 1881 01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:26.760 is a one way that we do get this orange 1882 01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:29.479 dye is with the mercury and oxygen. 1883 01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:31.960 Hgo, I'm pretty sure it is. 1884 01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:36.680 And that in Gemini season happens in May May backwards 1885 01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:40.520 as a yam. Yams are orange and it's may you may, 1886 01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.279 you may, like you have permission to like I think 1887 01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:46.039 that that fits a lot with mercury, that you have 1888 01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:50.079 permission to enter the other realms, you have permission to 1889 01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:53.600 pass through the doorway. So I just have that that 1890 01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:56.479 I do think that there is this undertone of or 1891 01:48:56.720 --> 01:48:59.600 not undertone, but just like this this orange that does exist. 1892 01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:01.840 And if we're talking about it as like a phallic sense, 1893 01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:06.319 the orange chakra is the sacral chakra, so that just 1894 01:49:06.399 --> 01:49:09.880 adds to that as well, and that's the creation, the creativity. 1895 01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:15.199 All of that tumeric, just like an ash nade of tumarc. 1896 01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:22.600 Excellent, Yeah, great, weaves man, and then uh we got 1897 01:49:22.680 --> 01:49:23.239 one more here. 1898 01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:26.840 Right, Yeah, it's just like some jamatria. There's two that 1899 01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:29.399 I don't include here on that would be on the 1900 01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:34.520 left that Jin mentioned, which was Princess and Daughters also 1901 01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:38.319 matches with mercury in the English ordinal, and then on 1902 01:49:38.399 --> 01:49:40.359 the left I have there with that six one eight 1903 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:42.319 is very relevant. 1904 01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:44.840 Because in the Golden ratio. 1905 01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.760 The first three decimals, the first three numbers, it's one 1906 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:51.880 point six, one eight, so on, so forth. One oh 1907 01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:55.399 three is also a prime number. It's the twenty seventh 1908 01:49:55.560 --> 01:49:58.720 prime number. So you have twenty seven twenty seven club. 1909 01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:02.600 You also have it's a very ritualistic number, the number 1910 01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:08.640 twenty seven in the police code, like there's ten four 1911 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:10.800 they have like we got a ten twenty two, blah 1912 01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:11.319 blah blah. 1913 01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:11.760 They have all that. 1914 01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:16.439 Ten three means like shut up, which I think is 1915 01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:18.800 kind of clever with like a mercury kind of thing, 1916 01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:20.880 because like I don't know, you meet a Gemini, they 1917 01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:21.680 don't ever shut up. 1918 01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:22.840 That's like kind of what they're known for. 1919 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.720 It's like or like the mercury ruled kind of people 1920 01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:28.399 like seem to talk a lot kind of thing. So 1921 01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:31.359 like the if if over the radio you call it 1922 01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:34.479 ten three, it means like, keep the line clear because 1923 01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:39.039 important information is about to come through. We have September, 1924 01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:44.640 which Virgo seasons in September, you know, Like the trickster 1925 01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:48.199 kind of thing fits a BS. Matching with that is 1926 01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:53.119 very interesting lessons sorcery, you know, leprechaun, because now we 1927 01:50:53.199 --> 01:50:55.720 have the Irish, then we have the green and the orange, 1928 01:50:56.279 --> 01:51:01.039 you know, and then we have anointing, enlightenment, virtual counting. 1929 01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:03.039 The proof that. 1930 01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:05.039 I think it just fits with that kind of thing 1931 01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:05.479 as well. 1932 01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:07.720 What they also wanted to point out too, is that 1933 01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:11.199 the element the two letters for the element mercury or HG, 1934 01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:14.479 And if you're to like kind of decode that quickly, 1935 01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:17.520 H is the eighth letter, G is the seventh letter. 1936 01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:20.399 So if you were to take that into the numbers, 1937 01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:24.520 that would be mastering your reality to create inner harmony, 1938 01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:28.399 mastering your reality the eight and the H to create 1939 01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:31.159 the inner the G and the seven and then eight 1940 01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:34.159 plus seven equals fifteen to one plus five equals six 1941 01:51:34.279 --> 01:51:35.760 the harmony, so. 1942 01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:38.560 It's that's cool that that exists there. 1943 01:51:40.760 --> 01:51:45.880 Mercury matches with astrology, the drive there was kind of 1944 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:48.199 a lot. I think like Uber was like it's not 1945 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:51.159 mentioned there. I think Uber was showing up in the matches. 1946 01:51:51.239 --> 01:51:55.279 Humpty, like Humpty Dumpty, but Humpty matched it as one 1947 01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:57.279 O three as well. I just didn't have it there. 1948 01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:03.479 And then the six to six, so the agreipa key 1949 01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:05.640 as well. In the middle that's just your Latin or 1950 01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.880 your Jewish cipher. But the six' six the sixty sixth 1951 01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.319 prime is three hundred and, seventeen so mercury equals three 1952 01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:18.119 hundred and seventeen when you apply The fibonacci cipher to. 1953 01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:21.640 It but then that's very interesting Because saturn in the 1954 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:26.199 prime cipher equals three three, seventeen and three seventeen is 1955 01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:28.720 one of my favorite codes because you flip it, around 1956 01:52:29.199 --> 01:52:31.319 you flip it upside, down you get the word Lie 1957 01:52:31.880 --> 01:52:35.399 lie upside, down and it's the sixty six. Prime so 1958 01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:39.319 it's like what lies upside? Down butterflies. 1959 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:40.279 And. 1960 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:42.520 BATS i don't know what else lies upside, down but 1961 01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:48.439 those two specific things lie upside down humans humans and 1962 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.159 then even Bald eagle matching with that Because i've often, 1963 01:52:51.319 --> 01:52:53.760 said LIKE i don't know if it's, stretch But, america 1964 01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:58.640 you got That mayor in, There, mrkera like it's kind 1965 01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:00.600 of in there is like This mercury real kind of 1966 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:01.079 thing as. 1967 01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:05.239 Well eagle by itself equals thirty, one which is. 1968 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:13.560 Weird well in The mason's call the star of Serious, Merca. America, 1969 01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:16.319 yeah Like america exactly. 1970 01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.640 Sounds Like, burkin which is like The burkin Her maze, 1971 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:20.079 bag the. 1972 01:53:20.159 --> 01:53:21.520 Original oh there we. 1973 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:23.560 Go and then the fact that it's a bag. 1974 01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:26.479 Too it reminds me of just, uh you, Know hermes 1975 01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:28.920 being the messenger of the gods having a little satchel 1976 01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:29.760 or a container with. 1977 01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:30.960 Him, yeah to deliver. 1978 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:35.479 Things you're going to put a ba at the. End 1979 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:36.960 you Got, marcaba which is the. 1980 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.520 Idea, yeah there you, go, man that's a great. 1981 01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:45.359 One i'll just mention real quick Regarding, saturn there is 1982 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:50.520 a relationship Between mercury And, saturn and so sometimes they're 1983 01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:53.359 kind of considered to be almost like the two ends 1984 01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:56.840 of a, SPECTRUM i, guess, right between the young and the, 1985 01:53:56.960 --> 01:54:00.119 old and as we, Know saturn likes to pray on 1986 01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:02.760 the young and and feed on the young and things like. 1987 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:05.359 That and so there's old. 1988 01:54:05.159 --> 01:54:10.000 Alchemical illustrations where Basically saturn is cutting off the legs 1989 01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:14.840 of mercury, basically and some authors have kind of likened 1990 01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.640 that to how the older generations. 1991 01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:17.520 Prey on the. 1992 01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:21.640 Youth and you, know there's there's a lot kind of 1993 01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:24.840 going on there al chemically, basically but it's like he's, 1994 01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:30.600 stunting you, Know mercury's movement forward and, whatever Because saturnian 1995 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:33.199 figures don't want to get dethroned by the next. 1996 01:54:33.279 --> 01:54:39.800 Generation so also With saturn in alchemy and paracelsis another 1997 01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:45.359 they call, lead which is the metallic element Of. Saturn 1998 01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:48.479 they call it black mercury into. 1999 01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:51.560 Nice, yeah that's that's. Cool i've never heard that. 2000 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:54.680 Before, Yeah and then there was one more THING i 2001 01:54:54.720 --> 01:54:59.079 wanted to bring. Up the tea or the tau was 2002 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:01.880 called the instant and of. DEATH a lot of people 2003 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.720 say That christ was crucified on a tea or a. 2004 01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:09.720 Towel and it's also the emblem of The tyrannus or 2005 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:15.880 toth or tetuits or top Or hermes or The, buddha 2006 01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:22.319 and it's called the Crux hermes in The Old, hebrew the, 2007 01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:28.920 bastulon the Plus, gian The, Etruscan, coptic and the, punic 2008 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:31.000 and it was symbolized by the. 2009 01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:34.720 X either or the plus makes perfect. 2010 01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:36.600 Sense you got the plus sign at the bottom of 2011 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:39.720 The mercury glyphs that you have the crossroads some of 2012 01:55:39.760 --> 01:55:42.239 the cross stuff that we're talking about. Earlier AND i 2013 01:55:42.359 --> 01:55:46.960 know that there's other glyphs For mercury that basically include 2014 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:47.960 a cross pretty. 2015 01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:49.720 Much so, yeah that totly lines. 2016 01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:52.439 UP i got a weave for, You. Mario so you 2017 01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:59.880 know the globus, cruciger, yeah spear, right that's the inversion 2018 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:00.439 of THE. 2019 01:56:00.600 --> 01:56:04.560 Ak, yeah it's also the inversion of Like venus. 2020 01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:04.760 Too. 2021 01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:08.520 Well THE ak would be the idea of you, know 2022 01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:12.279 this this sort Of hermes, energy and then the Globist 2023 01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:16.159 cruciger would be kind of the antimony or the the 2024 01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:19.159 kind of more lead like, energy and so you've got, 2025 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:22.960 yeah so they're just sort of reversals of one. Another 2026 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.640 and we were dancing Around saturn all, night but it's 2027 01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:30.680 The hermes that goes across all boundaries and so this time. Angle, 2028 01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:34.920 uh if If saturn is, time Then hermes would be 2029 01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:35.720 the time. Traveler. 2030 01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:41.319 NICE i like. IT i, mean that makes perfect, sense. Dude, 2031 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:43.319 actually for a lot of, REASONS. 2032 01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:46.399 I was thinking about what you. Said go, Ahead, ethan you. 2033 01:56:46.479 --> 01:56:49.159 KNOW i HAVE i have two THINGS i wanted to. 2034 01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:53.039 SHARE i feel Like i've been foaming at the mouth 2035 01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:59.119 because they encapsulate and depict so much of your presentation 2036 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:05.800 and what everyone has built. On the teacher aspect of 2037 01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:12.079 The hermes is in, part of, course you, know as 2038 01:57:12.319 --> 01:57:15.960 simple as fishing and canal building and so. Forth but 2039 01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:20.520 one THING i find interesting is the relationship of eight 2040 01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:27.720 as as used and depicted by the kind of intuitive 2041 01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:33.520 teachers of the, planet or the at least the the 2042 01:57:33.640 --> 01:57:38.199 divination practices that we, are that we still have the 2043 01:57:38.439 --> 01:57:44.960 runes created By, odin who is a Total hermes, character in, 2044 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:51.000 part not not in. Total he brings the runes which 2045 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:55.880 are actually at first, sixteen which of course is two, 2046 01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:59.920 eights and then twenty, four which and it's not only 2047 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.720 described as twenty, four it's described as three sets of 2048 01:58:02.840 --> 01:58:04.319 eight twenty. 2049 01:58:04.359 --> 01:58:06.000 Four and. 2050 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:13.159 The both of course is kind of associated with the 2051 01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:17.800 originator or teacher of The, tarot and he's also called 2052 01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:22.640 the god of the. Needers one of his names and 2053 01:58:23.560 --> 01:58:27.399 that relates to the eight needers or the four pair 2054 01:58:28.399 --> 01:58:35.000 really more kind of more specifically of masculine and feminine The, 2055 01:58:35.119 --> 01:58:41.720 ogduad which are they're kind of these elemental. Aspects oh 2056 01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:47.079 And odin has the eight legged horse, too who is 2057 01:58:47.479 --> 01:58:52.039 His he stands on these control of these elements one 2058 01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:55.760 could kind of relate, to and he can then go 2059 01:58:56.039 --> 01:59:02.279 through these different dimensions and divinight possibly uh in kind 2060 01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:06.159 of the story, Anyway and so The obduad is the 2061 01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:11.359 eight elements of The egyptian kind of, cosmology which goes 2062 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:17.560 right to the Other eastern version Of hermes and both 2063 01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:24.960 H fuz And nuwah who are depicted as entangled snake 2064 01:59:25.560 --> 01:59:31.680 from their waist down masculine and feminine entities And fuzi 2065 01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:37.840 uh is Uh he brings all these basic instructions to, 2066 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:41.479 humanity including fishing and hunting and so on and so, 2067 01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:46.920 forth just Like, hermes and also brings the three and 2068 01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:50.359 the eight in the form of the. Trigrams the eight 2069 01:59:50.560 --> 01:59:57.439 trigrams made up by broken and unbroken lines three three 2070 01:59:57.680 --> 02:00:04.319 unbroken and unbroken line which unbroken and broken really Reflects 2071 02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:08.159 yin and yang, right is another kind of way for 2072 02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:13.000 The easterners to Say yin And yang broken Being Yin 2073 02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:18.159 yang being. Unbroken and so you have the eight elements 2074 02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:22.399 in the E ching, reading which is the, divination which 2075 02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:26.720 is maybe one of the oldest uh divination practices that 2076 02:00:26.840 --> 02:00:29.640 are still widely, used and certainly the E ching they, 2077 02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:32.920 say is one of the oldest books that are still widely. 2078 02:00:33.039 --> 02:00:38.880 Read so there's these magnificent aspects of eight elements leading 2079 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:45.720 into intuition and uh one other, thing a separate thing 2080 02:00:45.800 --> 02:00:52.039 which goes to the three uh tristm gristis and the 2081 02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:57.800 three trinity relationship of the two pillars and the initiate in, 2082 02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:03.600 between if you. Will there's one story of both being an, 2083 02:01:03.640 --> 02:01:06.319 assistant which he's, well what's this. 2084 02:01:08.560 --> 02:01:09.520 You're talking? About the two? 2085 02:01:09.600 --> 02:01:10.079 Snakes? 2086 02:01:10.800 --> 02:01:10.960 Oh? 2087 02:01:11.720 --> 02:01:21.000 Fine and and so the the Uh hi assists mot 2088 02:01:21.319 --> 02:01:23.920 in his in her judgment of the, dead and he 2089 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:28.199 assists everyone so many. Times and in one instance he 2090 02:01:28.399 --> 02:01:35.119 Assists raw to obtain his, eye who kind of was 2091 02:01:35.399 --> 02:01:38.600 who got sick of him and got embodied by his 2092 02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:42.359 wife and they took off because they are over his 2093 02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:50.079 temperament or temperamental frustration occasional occasional, bursts and he can't 2094 02:01:50.159 --> 02:01:53.479 get her to come back with his, eye and of 2095 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:58.600 course he gets both to assist, him and both has 2096 02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:03.680 to ask her to return to raw one thousand and 2097 02:02:03.920 --> 02:02:12.199 seventy seven, times which is three degrees short of three three, sixties, 2098 02:02:13.279 --> 02:02:17.079 which of course To hood he has mastery of the, 2099 02:02:17.199 --> 02:02:22.079 three so it's. Complete and ten eighty is also one 2100 02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:25.079 hundred and eight times ten and one hundred and, eight 2101 02:02:25.159 --> 02:02:30.720 of course spiritually valuable and metaphysically, related but even it 2102 02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:35.880 has some very neat mathematical attributes which might be you, 2103 02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:39.359 know what was happening in that story as. Well so 2104 02:02:39.640 --> 02:02:43.920 just the three sixt the three three sixties in that 2105 02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:45.359 numbers is. 2106 02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:51.560 Fascinating three times more times seven times, twelve one hundred and. 2107 02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:58.760 Eight it's the degrees of a pentagram or, pentagon one 2108 02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:00.319 hundred eight, degrees very. 2109 02:03:00.319 --> 02:03:05.279 Angle it's also the prime number In, buddhism. 2110 02:03:06.119 --> 02:03:11.680 And it's both being the master of the trist. Magistus 2111 02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:15.760 the master of. Three one hundred and eight also depicts 2112 02:03:16.279 --> 02:03:20.840 the trinity of, time the one for the, present the 2113 02:03:21.039 --> 02:03:24.159 zero for the, past and the eight for the infinite 2114 02:03:24.279 --> 02:03:25.640 potential of the. 2115 02:03:25.680 --> 02:03:28.920 Future NICE i was just gonna, say. 2116 02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:33.359 Good one point zero zero eight is the atomic weight of. 2117 02:03:33.439 --> 02:03:38.239 Hydrogen, ah that's, interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2118 02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:41.159 With all the stuff coming into form is one hundred 2119 02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:42.600 and eight one thousand and, eight. 2120 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:47.000 RIGHT i was just going to say Regarding odin right 2121 02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:49.239 getting the ruins as he was hanging from the world, 2122 02:03:49.319 --> 02:03:53.520 tree you, know AND i this whole. Conversation i've written 2123 02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:57.600 down tree having a relationship with, three WHICH i think 2124 02:03:57.640 --> 02:04:01.399 is there's something to that, Basically and then even you, 2125 02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:03.079 know it's been, SAID i think it was like A 2126 02:04:04.039 --> 02:04:06.880 pythagoras say, it everything could be divisible by, three divided 2127 02:04:06.880 --> 02:04:09.760 by three, beginning middle, end you know sort of thing or. 2128 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:13.319 Whatever so tree and three have like a correspondence to 2129 02:04:13.359 --> 02:04:16.239 each other in my. Opinion and then we're talking about 2130 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:18.760 the serpent going up the tree and everything. Else and 2131 02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:21.479 THEN i was reminded of this too With gnash holding the, 2132 02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:24.079 axe and it's, like what is the axe used for 2133 02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:26.800 you chop down a? Tree the tree is a symbol 2134 02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.560 of the world, axis, right and SO i think there 2135 02:04:29.640 --> 02:04:33.039 is a relationship with the axe the axis as. Well 2136 02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:35.560 and then the world access being an. 2137 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:36.000 Axel. 2138 02:04:36.279 --> 02:04:39.000 Right so there's all these sort of things swimming in my. 2139 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:41.439 Mind BUT i could talk to you guys. FOREVER i, mean, 2140 02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:44.479 seriously this is like a really powerful crew AND i 2141 02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:46.560 always learn a. Lot so thank you guys for. 2142 02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:51.720 Sharing yeah you, guys crops and respect to. Everyone this 2143 02:04:51.880 --> 02:04:56.319 is like a. CULT ai more THAN i could FROM. 2144 02:04:56.359 --> 02:05:01.880 Ai great, Great, OH i love it is everybody? Good 2145 02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:04.399 does anybody have anything else to? Say we can probably 2146 02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:04.760 rapid up. 2147 02:05:04.760 --> 02:05:07.439 Here THEN i just want to add one really quick. 2148 02:05:07.479 --> 02:05:10.720 Thing is t said the ten plus. Three well that's 2149 02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:13.600 really interesting because In, cabala the ten plus three of 2150 02:05:13.640 --> 02:05:17.239 the thirteen that is the number of hearing the hearer 2151 02:05:17.279 --> 02:05:19.439 of the. Perceiver so you were, saying like the police 2152 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:22.199 say that it's a shut up because you can't hear. 2153 02:05:22.319 --> 02:05:27.319 Anything you can't perceive anything if you're, speaking, Right so that's. 2154 02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:30.520 Really interesting in that number specifically. 2155 02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:35.439 And getting into all that the whole idea of the divine, 2156 02:05:35.640 --> 02:05:39.960 silence you, know is What hermes constantly talks. About and, 2157 02:05:40.079 --> 02:05:43.680 also you, know before we, go the idea of her you, 2158 02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:47.840 know taking all this you, know divine sacred information and 2159 02:05:48.039 --> 02:05:52.399 hermetically sealing it into you, know so you also have 2160 02:05:52.560 --> 02:05:57.279 that ideas of the hermetically ceiling you, know occulting information 2161 02:05:57.720 --> 02:05:59.880 essentially nice. 2162 02:06:01.479 --> 02:06:01.960 To build. 2163 02:06:02.039 --> 02:06:04.600 On jins just really. Quickly WHAT t said about ten 2164 02:06:05.479 --> 02:06:08.279 one zero. Three if you multiplied ten by, three you get. 2165 02:06:08.319 --> 02:06:12.640 Thirty and that's When jesus performed all his, miracles the last, 2166 02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:18.319 route the water to, wine the, lows all of. That 2167 02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:23.039 that was when he was, thirty or that's what is, written. 2168 02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:26.680 Because he comes into his full, understanding. 2169 02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:28.479 Right, yes and then dies at thirty, three. 2170 02:06:29.079 --> 02:06:33.359 Right SOMETHING i just wanted to add real, quick just 2171 02:06:33.439 --> 02:06:36.039 weird stuff that popped into my. Head robbie was talking 2172 02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:38.399 and just now and then we could wrap it. Up 2173 02:06:39.439 --> 02:06:40.640 you know when you were talking about. IT i think 2174 02:06:40.640 --> 02:06:42.359 it was a saturn and taking off his. 2175 02:06:42.560 --> 02:06:45.079 Legs you. 2176 02:06:45.159 --> 02:06:47.479 Know, AGAIN i have talked about how like When i'm 2177 02:06:47.479 --> 02:06:51.520 messing with, magic at some point it's like things like starts, 2178 02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:54.439 disappearing you, Know like at one POINT i, said like 2179 02:06:54.560 --> 02:06:57.319 it does feel like energy is rising up my body 2180 02:06:57.359 --> 02:06:59.359 and everything below it, disappears and it does at some 2181 02:06:59.399 --> 02:07:03.079 point feel like my legs are gone AND i do go. 2182 02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:06.520 Death and you're just talking about, silence so, RIGHT i 2183 02:07:06.560 --> 02:07:09.359 MEAN i have experience all of those, THINGS i, think 2184 02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:11.760 SO i just wanted to throw that in. There there 2185 02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:13.960 was other things, too but it's it's Been, YEAH i 2186 02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:14.239 have to. 2187 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:16.880 Mention the thirteenth card of the Major ocana is, death 2188 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:19.560 and in the early, days this is the only card 2189 02:07:19.600 --> 02:07:21.760 that did not actually have a name printed on the, 2190 02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:25.560 card because you didn't want to invoke death by saying 2191 02:07:25.600 --> 02:07:28.359 its name, basically so there's a whole thing with silence 2192 02:07:28.399 --> 02:07:29.880 with that, too so. 2193 02:07:30.039 --> 02:07:33.319 Interesting, Way, well thank you. All this, was you, know 2194 02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:35.199 better THAN i could have. Expected it was just as 2195 02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:38.000 good as all the other. ONES i really appreciate. It, 2196 02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:41.159 again we Had lisa The occult reject Man, scientists we 2197 02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:43.920 Had jin The, ninja we Had Ethan, indigo we HAD, 2198 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:46.159 tj we had The Headless, giant and we Had Robbie. 2199 02:07:46.199 --> 02:07:48.680 Marx all the links are in the. Bottom and thank 2200 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:52.199 you for the, Guest. Mario like, again it's a. Pleasure 2201 02:07:52.359 --> 02:07:55.560 it's always, great you, know learning with. You and look 2202 02:07:55.640 --> 02:07:57.720 forward to doing much much more work with. 2203 02:07:57.880 --> 02:08:00.079 You likewise, man oh. 2204 02:08:00.119 --> 02:08:02.479 Yeah and that is the end of Another Recult Rejects 2205 02:08:02.560 --> 02:08:05.239 and until the next, one everybody be well later