1 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to me. 2 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:20,359 Speaker 2: Surely you can't be serious podcast. We are continuing with 3 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:23,879 our series on the summer of nineteen eighty four, and 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,480 I was just thinking about something interesting. In addition to 5 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:28,559 all of those incredible movies that we talked about last 6 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:30,760 episode and all those incredible songs that we talked about 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,960 last episode, there was also a big event going on 8 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:37,920 involving the president of the United States. It was the 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,159 election year where Ronald Reagan was running against Walter Mondel. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 11 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:44,679 Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, I remember it well. Yeah, And 12 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:46,600 even though I was eight or nine years old, it 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,759 was fascinating to me. And mister Reagan was one of 14 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:53,439 those guys who completely misunderstood the lyrics to the first 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,560 song that we're going to talk about. 16 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:56,479 Speaker 1: I know, I can't wait to dive into that story. 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: He's famous for talking about this pageotism and George will 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,439 has this kind of famous quote that's also a misunderstanding 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,400 of it. And then Walter Mondale after Bruce was like 20 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:09,760 he's missed the point here. He was like, oh, so 21 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:13,920 Bruce supports me, and Bruce say, whoa tiger? Yeah, I'm 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,200 not back in either one of you. 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, for me, just on the summer 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 of nineteen eighty four. YEA, one of the big things, 25 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:30,040 the Olympics in La in summer of eighty four. We're huge, 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,319 Mary lou Reddin. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: Wearing the star spangled banner on her tights, right, yeah, yeah. 28 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: And you had what you had Bart Connor, and you 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,599 had Mitch Gaylord who shows up later in the movie 30 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:44,599 American Anthem. Yeah, you have Carl Lewis, Edwin, Moses, Mary 31 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:47,599 Decker who tripped and fell. She was like the favorite 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,040 in the American race. And she she and Zola Bud 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,920 I think is her name, they got their feet tangled 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 and she fell, and just the heartbreaking images of her. 35 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:56,959 Speaker 2: Like it, you know. 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So the Olympics in La. 37 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:02,799 Speaker 2: That that was an amazing year. 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four is an amazing year in the eighties. 39 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:07,159 Speaker 2: And you know what, an amazing album of that year 40 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:08,960 was born in the USA. 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,759 Speaker 1: Let's get into it track by track. 42 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Before we get going, I just want to point something out. 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,479 We have been talking to each other now for a 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,919 couple of years, face to face, and one of the 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,879 reasons that I can do that is because you don't 46 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:25,960 have nose hair. 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Whack it perfect, all right. 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,479 Speaker 1: So the first song on the album is the title track, 79 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:11,280 Born in the USA. 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,599 Speaker 2: Listen to this drum beat, I'm telling you, Max Weinberg, Baby, 81 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:18,040 you've got Bruce who's been this, you know, sort of 82 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,639 folks sort of rock guy, and you've got a quick 83 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:23,439 piano followed by synthesizer. 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,079 Speaker 2: That was another big thing in nineteen eighty four. 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,319 Speaker 1: A repeating yeah synthesizer. 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So this song was everywhere and you sent me 88 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:43,319 something that're like, hey, is this song hard to play? 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,000 And so I sat down, I'm like ding dong ding, 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,279 I'm like, okay, two chords, whole song, two chord and 91 00:04:50,319 --> 00:04:52,720 then I played the melody. I'm like three notes. So 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,560 two chords, three note melody, and you have one of 93 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,480 the biggest hits of the decade. 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: They got a hook and and they wrote it all 95 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:02,199 the way for four minutes. 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: You better like that. 97 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:06,519 Speaker 1: Hook if you're going to like the song. Yeah, iconic song, yeah, 98 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,920 fist pumper, Yes, patriotic. 99 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean so, let me tell this story. 100 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:16,800 So you're born to run and you get born in 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,800 the USA. I always know, you know Jason Bourne in 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,279 the future. Now, anyway, he's got born to Run, which 103 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:28,240 is not a flattering song for New Jersey, right, yeah, 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,000 I mean this town will rip the skin from your back. 105 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:34,240 I mean it's not good right right back anyway, And 106 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:37,600 New Jersey completely misunderstanding the song, was like, hey, we 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,399 should make that like our state song. Dude, No, that's 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,519 this is not a flattering song. They're trying to get 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,240 out of this town, right, We've got to get out 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,759 of town. 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,639 Speaker 1: So the US says New Jersey, hold my beer. 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Right, So, if you think that this song is a 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,079 patriotic song, let's just listen to the lyrics real quick, Okay. 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Born down in a dead man's town. The first kick 115 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,720 I took was when I hit the ground. You end 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,680 up like a dog that's been beat down too much 117 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,480 till you spend half your life just covering up. That's 118 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:14,680 not flattering, yeah yeah, but it's this amazing thing where 119 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:20,399 he takes these grueling lyrics in the verse and then 120 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:25,120 puts them against this very patriotic sounding chorus. 121 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: It's a fist bumper. 122 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:29,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a total fist bumper, which is interesting 123 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,600 because as the song goes on, this is a song 124 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:34,319 about a Vietnam Vet, right, I mean, he grew up poor, 125 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:37,439 he had to join the army in order to get 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,759 out of going to prison. They send him off to 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 a foreign land to kill the Yellow Man. His brother 128 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:47,000 gets killed, he's all gone, and he's back and everybody's 129 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:49,759 kind of spitting on him like he's gotten nowhere to run, 130 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,519 nowhere to go. 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: This is like the plot of First Blood. 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,879 Speaker 2: Yes, out by the gas fires of the refinery, I'm 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,240 ten years burning down the road, nowhere to run to 134 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,800 ain't got nowhere to go. And so the idea of 135 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,120 what was happening with the Vets at this time, that 136 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:08,480 you know, they had gone and fought in the name 137 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:11,240 of the USA, and they come back and they're the 138 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:14,839 people who are waving the flag, and all patriotic are 139 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 kind of forgetting about the vets. They're treating them like crap. 140 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:19,639 That's the same thing that happens in the song. The 141 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:24,199 chorus is so loud and powerful you completely lose the 142 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,519 message of the song. My first kick was when I 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,439 hit the ground. 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:27,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 145 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,079 Speaker 2: Usa. 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,319 Speaker 1: So here's a part of Ronald Reagan's speech, right, ron 147 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:34,279 O'reagan his son. I heard him son talking about this. 148 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:37,360 Ronald Reagan had no idea who Bruce Springstein was right, 149 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:41,160 So he says in his speech, he said, America's future 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,199 rests in the thousand dreams inside your hearts. It rests 151 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:46,759 in the message of hope in songs. So many young 152 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:50,680 Americans admire New Jersey's own Bruce Springsteen, and helping you 153 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,480 make those dreams come true is what this job of 154 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:56,480 mine is all about. Somebody asked him, what's your favorite 155 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Bruce Springsteen song? Yes, and an aide stepped forward and 156 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:00,680 said his favorite. 157 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:01,319 Speaker 2: Song is Born to Run. 158 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: And Johnny Carson said, if you believe that I got 159 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:07,879 a couple of tickets to the mondel Ferraro inaugural ball, 160 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,160 I might sell it. I thought that was funny. Yeah, 161 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:15,920 So Born in the USA is released October thirtieth of 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,759 nineteen eighty four, so the song reaches number nine on 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,399 the Billboard Hot one hundred and like we've done before, 164 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:24,160 I wanted to know what are the eight songs that 165 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,839 are better than Born in the USA at this time 166 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:30,240 in nineteen eighty four with all this cool stuff happening. Sure, okay, 167 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:34,120 so here they are. I was less than impressed. Like 168 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,600 a virgin Iconic Ages song number one, Yes All I 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Need by Jack Wagner Cheesy Crap Okay, You're the Inspiration 170 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,440 by Chicago. It's on the make Out List of nineteen 171 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,799 eighty four. I Want to Know What Love Is by Foreigner. Okay, 172 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,000 it's on the make Out List of nineteen eighty four. 173 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Easy Lover by Philip Bailey and Phil Collins. I like it, 174 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,240 but Iconic Eighties. I mean, you know it's a catchy, 175 00:08:59,279 --> 00:08:59,759 you know, I like. 176 00:08:59,799 --> 00:09:01,399 Speaker 2: It, like oh I remember those songs? 177 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Yes, but What Run to You by Brian Adams, great 178 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,360 song off the Reckless album. 179 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my favorite song yet. Yeah. Yeah. 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Wild Boys by Duran Duran. 181 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean it's a good. 182 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Duran Duran song. We Belong by Pat Benattar there you go. 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,879 That's where we are. 184 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 185 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,039 Speaker 1: I mean they're all good songs, but are they better than. 186 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: Born in the USA? Right? 187 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to talk about the creation 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:23,960 of this song. 189 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: Let's go okay to it. 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,279 Speaker 1: This is a nugget that blew me away. 191 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,799 Speaker 2: I love it, Okay. Yeah. 192 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: So this song was written in nineteen eighty one as 193 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:34,679 the title for a film by Paul Schrader, and he 194 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,720 sent him the script for this movie that he wants 195 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,720 to make with Bruce Springsteen called Born in the USA. 196 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,320 So Bruce Springsteen makes this song, writes this song, and 197 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 then the movie kind of flounders, and then by the 198 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,480 time that they're ready to make the movie, the song 199 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:51,120 has already lived its life and so he can't call 200 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:53,320 it Born in the USA anymore. And so they changed 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,759 the title and they changed the actors. This movie is 202 00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:58,279 called Light of Day and it stars Michael J. Fox 203 00:09:58,399 --> 00:09:59,080 and Joan Jett. 204 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: Right. I think I watched some of that movie just 205 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,879 because it had Michael J. Fox in it back in 206 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:06,720 the mid eighties. Yeah, and couldn't finish it. 207 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I watched it like a year ago. 208 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: This is depressing me. 209 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,399 Speaker 1: This is pressing. 210 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: It's not a happy movie now, okay, so yes, that 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,200 is the creation of the song. And for a long 212 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,000 time this was just an acoustic song. It was just 213 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,840 him with an acoustic guitar singing. But it changes in 214 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,200 this amazing organic way. So they've been in the studio 215 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 recording ruling session, all of the members are worn out, 216 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:31,480 and they all go into the booth and then at 217 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:33,960 some point one of the band members goes back out. 218 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,720 I think it was Bruce, and he starts just playing 219 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:39,720 just the riff on the guitar, and then at that 220 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,399 point Max Weinberg is like, I think I got a 221 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,919 different idea here, and he walks out and he hits 222 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:49,679 that hard snare, hard snare, and like, okay, this is 223 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 making it sound a little different. And one by one 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,080 each of the members of the band come back into 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,039 the recording studio and they play it in a completely 226 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:01,720 different way where it's more like an anthem than like 227 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:05,159 this sad guitari folks song. And when they get done, 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,000 they're like, I think we just found some. 229 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,159 Speaker 1: And yeah, no doubt. 230 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:09,919 Speaker 2: They played it one more time to see if they 231 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,399 still had it. Then they played it one more time 232 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,879 and that's what's on the record. 233 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:14,799 Speaker 1: That's incredible. 234 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 235 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,039 Speaker 1: I love stories like this where the song is just 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,960 kind of birthed and it takes on a life of 237 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,080 its own aim becomes this rock eighties anthem. 238 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 239 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:25,799 Speaker 1: Wow, I got a couple little nuggets for you. 240 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 241 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Patty LaBelle covered this song in nineteen eighty five. 242 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,279 Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. 243 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:36,919 Speaker 1: Also, you may remember Cheach marinstill. 244 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:36,159 Speaker 4: Man was. 245 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're born in East la Well, let's see 246 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,720 your green card. Huh green card? 247 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm from East laurelll and who's president had a parody 248 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,799 of the song called Born in the East La. 249 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:58,879 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. That's awesome. Made it into a movie. Yeah, Yeah, 250 00:11:58,879 --> 00:11:59,440 it's funny. 251 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,759 Speaker 1: Born in These feeling. One more quick nugget. This video 252 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,480 was directed by a guy named John Sales. He's a 253 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:09,360 guy who wrote the Howling. He wrote Alligator was kind 254 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:11,840 of an eighties movie, and he directed eight min Out. 255 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,679 So he's a guy who's done some things. 256 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:16,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight min out. Yeah, okay, that does it for 257 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Born in the USA on the song number two cover 258 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:44,200 me So the beginning of the song blowing in sounds 259 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,519 like the fabulous Thunderbirds to me. 260 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could go with that. 261 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, once again. You've got another song about the guy 262 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:53,720 who's just been beaten down. Right, he has been beaten 263 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:56,159 down so much that all he's looking for is someplace 264 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,559 to hide where the person will cover him up. Yep. 265 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,799 Speaker 1: I need somebody to love me and cover me. 266 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 267 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:05,399 Speaker 1: This is the second single released July thirty first, nineteen 268 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:08,600 eighty four. This reached number seven on the Hot one Hunter. Okay, 269 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:10,279 we're still a little better than Born in the USA. 270 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,080 That's crazy, that's crazy now, I mean this is a 271 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,440 good song, better. 272 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:14,799 Speaker 2: Than Born in the U. 273 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: I know, I can't believe it. This song was written 274 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,200 for Donna Summer. 275 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: I know, right. Can you imagine a disco version of 276 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:22,919 the song? 277 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: No, No, Donna Summer is a great singer, but she 278 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,879 is a little bit more pop and definitely more disco, 279 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:30,399 you know. 280 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 281 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: But John Landau listened to it and thought, eh, this 282 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,840 sounds like a hit. We might want to hang onto 283 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,000 this one, so they gave her the song called Protection instead. 284 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,039 Speaker 2: This was one of the songs that was recorded at 285 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,000 the Hit Factory, Yes, which several of the songs were 286 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:49,879 recorded at. And it's simple. It's a more emotional song. 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, this song is a good song. I like it. 288 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,720 It's upbeat, even though the lyrics are kind of like depressing, 289 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,639 but this is a toe tapper. This is a great 290 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,480 content song. 291 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Again, listen to those drums, listen to how the music 292 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,840 plays against the meaning of the lyrics, and you've got 293 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,120 this magical combination on almost all of these songs. 294 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:11,799 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 295 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 296 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: No music video for this song. 297 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting, which is kind of weird. And it's 298 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,519 still made it to number seven. 299 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:24,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, great song like it? 300 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it all right. Song number three Darlington County. 301 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:36,720 All right, I got a FEVA and the only prescription 302 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:38,679 is book cow Bell. I know right. 303 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: That Cowboll is very prominent in this song. 304 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: I give it up Max. 305 00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: So the first time I heard this, I thought, and 306 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:48,639 that sounds a lot like Honckey Talk Woman by the 307 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Rolling Stones. 308 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very yeah, similar intro. 309 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,559 Speaker 1: Yes, And as I did my research, I found out 310 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:57,039 that in concerts he would play the first few bars 311 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:00,559 of Honckey Talk Woman and blends right into this song on. 312 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Nice and on the back, awesome way to go you, 313 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:03,759 thank you. 314 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: This could have easily been a single. 315 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:09,679 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorites on the album Great So 316 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:11,039 it great s. Yeah. 317 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,639 Speaker 1: Lyrically, this is about a guy driving to Darlington County to. 318 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,639 Speaker 2: People of Lucas. There you go look for work, Yeah, 319 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,799 I would say, looking to get laid. Okay, we're just 320 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:24,879 going down there to try to pick up some chicks. Man. 321 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Sometimes that's work. It's always work. 322 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,759 Speaker 1: Darlington County is in South Carolina. 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're going to go down and talk to 324 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,240 the girls about being these big New York City boys 325 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,679 even though they are just a couple of Pelucas, and 326 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,600 try to get them to, you know, come over here 327 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,159 and sit down, like get radio with me in my car. 328 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Sounds good to be. A guy named Jeff Stevens and 329 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:59,480 the Bullets took the cover version to number sixty nine 330 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:02,159 on the High Country Songs in nineteen eighty seven. 331 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: It's got a very country feel too, except that the 332 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,000 guys are talking about being from the city. 333 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, one more quick thing on this song before we 334 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,679 move on. Springsteen originally wrote this song in nineteen seventy 335 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 eight for the album Darkness on the Edge of Town. Okay, 336 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:17,600 it didn't make the cut, huh. He reworked it re 337 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,320 recorded in nineteen eighty two. Yeah, and here we have 338 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,360 it in nineteen eighty four. 339 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: Awesome, fantastic. 340 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, moving on to a song. 341 00:16:24,279 --> 00:16:26,039 Speaker 2: Called working on the Highway. 342 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: Not gonna press work. 343 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: Week Okay, this one is screaming bo deadly at me 344 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,919 once again. It's a guy who's screwed up his life. 345 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: More depressing lyrics. The music is so good, it's catchy. 346 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,919 Speaker 2: It's got that nineteen fifties early sixties absolutely pop rock 347 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,279 song sound about it. 348 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: But it sounds like summertime blues to me. 349 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And so you've got this guy, he's talking 350 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:03,200 about everybody's getting off of work, talking about getting hurt 351 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,079 on the weekend, and you know these you know, some 352 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:18,400 guys are going to go drink and some guys are 353 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,519 going to go look for a fight and all this stuff. 354 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:22,319 And then about what he's going to do. And he's 355 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,160 got this cause he's holding his flag working on the highway. 356 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,920 He's got this girl on his mind. Right. So the 357 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,960 people that I've heard talk about this, they seem to 358 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,359 think like he's working on the highway, he meets up 359 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,839 with his underage girl, gets in trouble, ends up in 360 00:17:35,839 --> 00:17:39,359 the penitentiary, and is working on the highway for the penitentiary. Yeah, 361 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,279 I think it's already happened. Like I think at the 362 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:44,799 beginning of the song, Russ is throwing you off with 363 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:46,759 the lyrics about what the other guys are going to 364 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:49,799 do with their weekends. I think this guy is already 365 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,079 a penitentiary inmate because he did this, and that's why 366 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,920 the girl is on his mind, because he mentions it 367 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,880 in the first first But the idea of the song 368 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,279 either way is this guy decided to fall in love 369 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:04,599 with the girl who was too young. He talks to 370 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,359 her dad does an honorable thing, and her daddy says, 371 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,119 don't you know, she's just a girl, and then he 372 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,400 takes her down to Florida. You're all the right back 373 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,240 there for a second. He took hard left. 374 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:18,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 375 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, brothers show up with cops and 376 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:24,880 it's off to the penitentiary with him and he's just 377 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,480 working on that, working on the highway. Yeah. 378 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: This song was originally called child Bride. 379 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, working on the Highways A better time? 380 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:33,279 Speaker 1: Yes, how about that? 381 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because nobody it's hard to understand what Bruce says, right, 382 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,799 I know. And this, by the way, I listened to 383 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,640 several of the songs off of some of the other 384 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,559 albums and his very first album, The Greetings from Asbrey Park. 385 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:50,880 The first single off of that album was blinded by 386 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,960 the Light, and I was like, did he cover? He 387 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,119 do a cover as his very first sing No, Bruce 388 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,559 Springsteen was the guy who wrote blinded by the Light. 389 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,680 I had no idea. I thought Manford Man was the 390 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,960 original report. Yeah, yeah, No, I didn't come along until 391 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,400 seventy six. I was like, what, But this is the 392 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:10,759 rare circumstance where I can understand Bruce better than I 393 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,440 can understand what the Banford Man did. I mean, there 394 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,759 was all kinds of misunderstood lyrics whenever was listening to 395 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:20,799 the Manford Man. Deose was not deuce right, not wrapped 396 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,839 up like a doude. Not yes that's right, you got it? Okay. 397 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, working on the Highway catchy song, another fun song. 398 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, moving on song number five. 399 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: This song is called down Bound Train Dude. That's the 400 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,519 Rolling Stones, right though. 401 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,519 Speaker 2: Oh so strong? The Stones are strong with this one 402 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,400 and wait for it, here it is. Max Cummins comes 403 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,960 in with that snare I'm telling you, yeah, I'm telling 404 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,799 you Except for that. Now, this song, this song, the 405 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,759 music matches the sadness of the words and the song right, 406 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Oh my gosh, downbound train like the guy's like life 407 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,799 was pretty good. And then the factory shut down and 408 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:12,640 my wife left me. And then I had a dream 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 that she was calling me back, and I walked into 410 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,720 a dark, empty room. Okay, I'm gonna go kill myself. 411 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,200 What Bruce, come on, man, find some happy, find you happy, 412 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,680 plays Brown. 413 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: There's an author called Debbie Bull. She called the saddest 414 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:26,359 song ever written. 415 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: It is. Yes, he did not bring the happy, Happy, 416 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:38,960 go lucky music along with his sad song, So you 417 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:39,960 got sad music? 418 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Sad song at the end of the Nebraska Sessions. Yes, 419 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,440 it was recorded with Working on the Highway and they 420 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,519 called it the Electric Nebraska Sessions. 421 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,599 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, this one I still like. Uh, so 422 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,599 far we've we've gotten. I've liked every single song on 423 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:55,880 this song. 424 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: They're all good. 425 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:59,559 Speaker 2: I mean, even if it does make me suicidal, it's 426 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,440 still his. It hits a nerve that sometimes you got 427 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,079 to hit. Sometimes songs are supposed to make you feel sad. Yeah, 428 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:07,759 that's why they call it the blips, and that's why 429 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:09,440 they call it the No not that. 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,799 Speaker 1: Well John Right, John again. 431 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,839 Speaker 2: What he seems to do on this album to me 432 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:19,720 is put songs on each end of each side that 433 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,319 are like his tent pole songs like these are the 434 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:25,519 best songs on the album. Let's put them on each end, okay, 435 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:29,359 which brings us to song number six, I'm on Fire. 436 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,079 Speaker 1: This starts off. I like it right away. It's a hit. 437 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,319 You can hear it in my ears immediately. 438 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm all the way and this is beautiful, beautiful song. Yeah. 439 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: This was the fourth single released February sixth, nineteen eighty five. 440 00:21:54,160 --> 00:22:04,880 It reached number six. Wow, another top ten hit. 441 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,599 Speaker 2: Yeah four single, Yeah, so this song number one? When 442 00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:10,319 we get that, Hey, little girl, is your daddy home? 443 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,279 I really hope when he says daddy he means boyfriend, 444 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:15,720 because if he actually means daddy, this is super gross. 445 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,799 So I'm gonna assume boyfriend. But then, as I'm as 446 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:22,920 I'm listening to these lyrics, this is the song of 447 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,200 a crazy man, Like this is the song of someone 448 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,400 who is disturbed and has a fire that is not 449 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,599 an appropriate fire, right, Hey, little girl, is your daddy home? 450 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:34,759 Did he go and leave you all alone? I got 451 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,680 a bad desire? Oh, I'm on fire. He's struggling with 452 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,519 some demons here, right, and he brings that home with 453 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,759 the last part of the song, which I mean the 454 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,519 lyrics on this song I think may be the most poetic. 455 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:52,559 And we're talking about huge poetry on every single song here. 456 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,759 But sometimes it's like someone took a knife, Baby Edgy 457 00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:59,319 and Doll and cut a six inch valley through the 458 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:01,960 middle of my skull. At night, I wake up with 459 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,920 the sheets soaking wet and a freight train running through 460 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,000 the middle of my head. Only you can cool my desire. 461 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,039 Oh oh, I'm on fire. Wow. It's so powerful and 462 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,599 so creepy and so beautiful and haunting, an amazing and 463 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,400 two minutes and thirty seconds long, all right. 464 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: This video was filmed in March of nineteen eighty five, okay, 465 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,640 which is the same month that Huey listened the news 466 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,880 filmed Bad Is Bad? 467 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, were the film in the same place, Both 468 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,480 in New York, one. 469 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: In La one in San Francisco. 470 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: It's a long ways apart. By the way, twos Oklahoma 471 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000 boys are like oh right next door. Both the gelph 472 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,319 like a seven hour. 473 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:41,839 Speaker 1: Directed again by John Sales. 474 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,559 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 475 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,599 Speaker 1: This video won the MTV Video Music Award for Best 476 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,759 Male Video. Yeah, okay, so the video is Bruce is 477 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,279 a mechanic and this fantasy woman comes in. We never 478 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:53,559 see her face. 479 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: Turned nails as he gave is at them, stroking the 480 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,720 side of the car he's working on. 481 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's implying if she is she 482 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,319 a real person or is he just like fantasizing about 483 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,240 her or what? Is she just unattainable? But it's kind 484 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,000 of like the dark version of Billy Joel's Uptown Girl 485 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,720 video Hang on hand On, I Got something for you 486 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:13,960 on this? 487 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: Okay? 488 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: You ready for this? 489 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: Yes? 490 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,279 Speaker 1: The B side to the single I'm On Fire Yes, 491 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,160 is a song called Johnny Bye Bye written by It's 492 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,759 like fused from Chuck Berry. A Chuck Berry song. Okay, okay, 493 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,319 so he had written parts of it and Springsteen took 494 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:31,960 those parts and kind of made a song out of it. 495 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:32,559 Speaker 2: But this was. 496 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Written just before Chuck Berry went to jail for three 497 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,039 years for violating the Man Act of nineteen sixty two. 498 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,799 Speaker 2: That's ironic, how about that? Given my interpretation? 499 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Seriously? 500 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, and for those who don't know what the Man 501 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,440 Act of nineteen sixty two is, that is transporting women 502 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:52,759 across side state lines for immoral purposes. 503 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,599 Speaker 2: Wow, whoa, he's on fire. Yeah, let's see what Johnny 504 00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:58,559 Byebox sounds. 505 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:04,519 Speaker 3: Like with the song's the party and nine down on 506 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,680 them this time. I'll be going down if you need 507 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:12,000 a d The mane on the radio s. 508 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: All right, So just one little tidbit on this song. Yes, okay, 509 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,359 Bruce Springsteen and his pianist Roy Baton and his drummer 510 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,039 Max Weinberg are sitting around the first version of this 511 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,359 song was just the three of them because everybody else 512 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,039 was taking a leak or on break or whatever. 513 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:33,039 Speaker 2: Right, smoke him if you got that's right, that's it. 514 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,519 Speaker 1: That's it. 515 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay. So Roy Baton has come up before. Do you 516 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,279 remember his nickname is the Professor. Yeah, he was one 517 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,400 of the handful of guys that bon Jovi got to 518 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:49,200 help him record run Away. So go check out our 519 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,160 bon Jovi. Yes, there you go. 520 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: It's the part one of the slipperwin wet New Jersey 521 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,079 Battle of bon Jovi. 522 00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: All right, time to hit stop on you tape player, 523 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,279 kick it out and flip it over side too. 524 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:24,079 Speaker 1: First song, no Surrender, kicking it. 525 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:28,079 Speaker 2: Off strong piano sounded like the old fifties song you 526 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,359 got the harmonies coming in here. I'm already loving it. 527 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,440 I'm telling you about temp pole on each side. This 528 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:34,279 is a great song. 529 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this is a feel good song. 530 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah what wait? What a positive I know, a positive 531 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,440 sounding and positive lyrics song. What is it doing on 532 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:45,880 this album? 533 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,039 Speaker 1: I know, I know. This is a great song. This 534 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:50,400 reminds me kind of a bon Jovie. I mean it's 535 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,920 a feel good working man camaraderie. 536 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in this together and we're not giving up. 537 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:09,519 Speaker 1: See it through being on a prayer. 538 00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:13,839 Speaker 2: Okay. I really feel like this is something that probably 539 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,359 he had with his bandmates where he was like that 540 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,759 they had to say to themselves because I mean, just 541 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,279 keep keep in mind, his first album came out in 542 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,960 seventy three. This is eleven years later. Born to Run. 543 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,799 Had so much hope and he's built up all of 544 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,519 this fan base, but he's not really had a commercial success, 545 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:33,319 and so he has to rally the troops. Right. Yeah, yeah, guys, 546 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,119 we were in this together. No Retreat, No Surrender. 547 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:37,799 Speaker 1: This song almost didn't make the album. 548 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 549 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: This was the last song in Wow. It was only 550 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,279 at the insistence of Stephen Van Zane. He had left 551 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:46,319 the band, but it was still friends with everybody. Yeah, 552 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,920 he was pursuing his solo career yep. And when he listened, 553 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,319 he's like, guys, we got it. I mean, this is 554 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,960 a great song. You got to include this one. This 555 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,920 song was originally titled Brothers under the Bridges. 556 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 557 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: And quickly. Have you ever seen the young Claude van 558 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,599 Dam movie called No Retreat, No Surrender? 559 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,599 Speaker 2: I have never No, I have not seen that. 560 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay, not a great movie. He's the bad guy, but 561 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,519 the movie title comes from this song. 562 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: Okay, is it about a band whose blood brothers? Underneath 563 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,400 the stormy night? 564 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 6: No, it's karate, Oh, okay, Okay, song number I don't know, 565 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:24,799 Number two on side two. 566 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Number two on side two. This is called Bobby Jean. 567 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: So this song is about the loss. I can't tell 568 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,319 if it's a friend or a lover or a friend 569 00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:52,799 that he wanted to be a lover right, like they 570 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:57,119 were obviously close growing up. And she leaves without notice. Yeah, 571 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,480 and he's just hoping that maybe somewhere there she'll hear 572 00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:03,599 this song on the radio and know it's better. 573 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's a sheet. 574 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: It could be he. Yeah, that's true. I mean true. 575 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Jean could be a male or female. True, And 576 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,079 it's never really specified in the song. Some people think 577 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,640 it's it's like, you know, Steven van Zant leaving the 578 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,400 band and oh man, good luck to you, will miss you, that. 579 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,519 Speaker 2: Type of thing. It's Billy Jean's sister. 580 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:25,759 Speaker 1: I don't think it's Billy Jean's sister. This song was 581 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:27,480 not released as a single, but it did make it 582 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:29,599 to number thirty six on the mainstream rock charts. 583 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,599 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, good song. 584 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: It don't get me real fired up? 585 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: No, this is I would say, probably my least favorite 586 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,920 song on the album. I won't call it a skipper. 587 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,680 I would just say, if you get to lose one 588 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,400 on the album, this one's probably it. Yeah. 589 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen the live performance when Eddie Vedder from 590 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,799 Pearl Jam comes on stage and they sing this together? 591 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,279 Speaker 2: No, but I must there you go. Wow, that will 592 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:52,079 be fantastic. 593 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,839 Speaker 1: Done with Bobby Jean, We're now moving on to the 594 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,519 sixth single, released August twenty seventh, nineteen eighty five. This 595 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:21,880 song is called I'm Going Down. 596 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,839 Speaker 2: I want that nasty guitar? All right, bring it. 597 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 6: In, Max? 598 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Yes? 599 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: Why I can't feel it dot com, I go look. 600 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: Ye give me your look. 601 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,319 Speaker 3: I'm way, I'm you let out, wanna your board side 602 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,759 where kaw? I'm looking to yours. 603 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm going. 604 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: I love this song. 605 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: This is a guy who's had enough of her crap. 606 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Amen bro, tired of your crown, used to love on me, 607 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,319 and now. 608 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: You just beat me down like a dollar. 609 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,359 Speaker 1: This song reached number nine on the US Hot one hundred. 610 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,160 Another top ten hit. 611 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,559 Speaker 2: So how many is that? 612 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,799 Speaker 1: That's the fifth one that we've talked about. That's five 613 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,400 top ten hits and we haven't even gotten a few songs. 614 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,119 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, a little repetitive this song. I 615 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,119 love it, but a little bit repetitive for me. 616 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,759 Speaker 1: It's catchy. It's I Yeah, it's it's it's andy. 617 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: It is a good it's a good song. 618 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm done with this one. 619 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:39,079 Speaker 2: Moving on to song number ten on the album, possibly 620 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,400 my favorite song on the album. 621 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:43,279 Speaker 1: This song is called Glory Days. 622 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: Where and. 623 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:16,599 Speaker 3: Scene a song. 624 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:19,839 Speaker 2: I love the crunch, I love the guitar. I want 625 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,319 to go. I want to go get a board and 626 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640 a baseball glove, and I want to go pitch a 627 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480 little bit on the mound. And I was never a 628 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:27,480 pitcher in high school. 629 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: Let's go get a bucket of balls and some pine 630 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:31,680 tire and let's get out there. 631 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,279 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this one is it's kind it is amazing. 632 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to go down to. 633 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:47,799 Speaker 1: Me. 634 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: If you say, Bruce Springsteen, this is where my head 635 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:51,519 goes immediately. 636 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm totally with you. 637 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,039 Speaker 2: I understand every word he says in the song. BELI yes, 638 00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,720 and it's it's a it is a feeling that I 639 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,039 can understand as well, you know, like I mean this 640 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,279 where we're here, right, nostalgia Like these people unfortunately, it's 641 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,559 kind of that idea that the best days that they 642 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,039 ever had were their high school days, right, and they're 643 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,559 stuck there, right, they're just stuck in trying to relive 644 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,519 those days. But you know what, that's okay, that's kind 645 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:16,079 of what we're doing. 646 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,359 Speaker 1: Hey, well that's we are having a blast talking about I. 647 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,599 Speaker 2: Love talking about the glory a little of the glory. 648 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,799 So that's right. 649 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,519 Speaker 1: So this song was the fifth single released May thirty, 650 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,519 nineteen eighty five. So this reached number five. Yeah, and 651 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:34,119 the just hot one hundred. Yeah, I'm spiking the football. 652 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:47,640 This is my favorite Bruce Springsteen song of all Times, Welcome. 653 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,079 Speaker 2: Yes, love it, Yeah, I mean I have no I 654 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,039 won't fault you. This is probably up until we did 655 00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:56,960 this podcast, this was my number one. 656 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,319 Speaker 1: So this was actually based on a true story. Bruce 657 00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:02,519 Springsteen and the guy named Joe Depew were classmates and 658 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,400 teammates like little league teammates, right, And this guy, Joe 659 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,519 Apeugh was a really good player. And one day he's 660 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:12,440 walking into a bar. Joe Depeugh is walking out and 661 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,559 he says, hey, Joe, how's it going, man? And they 662 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,719 turn back around, they go back in, they sit down 663 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,320 and have a big, long conversation about the glorious right, 664 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,000 which I thought was really cool. And this is his 665 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,559 quote on this right. He said, the first verse actually happened, 666 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,440 the second verse mostly happened, and the third verse, of course, 667 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,280 is happening. Right, beautiful, right, nice, fantastic. Here's the cool 668 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,679 thing about this. I ran the sound system for the 669 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,320 baseball team this year at my son's high school baseball games. 670 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: Played it. 671 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: It's still killed nice. 672 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,639 Speaker 2: People are loving it. I mean so good. 673 00:34:44,840 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so good. Here's the interesting thing the video. 674 00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,480 Stephen van Zandt had left the band two years prior 675 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,960 to Yeah, but he's he's all over the video. He's 676 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,519 having a ball. 677 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's another qud up on the stage with 678 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,920 him as well. Let's talk about her. Okay, go ahead, 679 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:12,880 there is a qut. 680 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: Up on stage with him, all right. But here's the thing. 681 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,000 Julianne Phillips was Bruce Springstein's wife at the time. Okay, 682 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,679 if you say to yourself, Juliane Phillips, who is that? Yeah, 683 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,440 if you've ever seen the movie Skin Deep, of which 684 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,000 I'm a big fan, never seen it? Okay, Fletch Lives. 685 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:29,039 Seeing that Fletch Lives. She is the love interest in 686 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:29,679 Fletch Lips. 687 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,519 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Okay. 688 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: She was married to Bruce Springstein from nineteen eighty five 689 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,880 to nineteen eighty nine. 690 00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:36,679 Speaker 2: Okay, so when did this video come out? 691 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,039 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty five. She's actually in the video. Okay, so 692 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,800 they were married at the time of and she's actually yeah, 693 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,559 she's in the video. Okay, But apparently down the road 694 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,840 the other girl in the band, her name is Patty. 695 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,280 I think her name is Patti Siafa if I'm saying 696 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,519 that right, Okay. She and Bruce were kind of calm 697 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,280 out together and so Julianne Phillips said, I'm out of here. 698 00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,880 And now Bruce and Patty are now married and have 699 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,239 been married for a long time and have kids and 700 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,119 all that. Yeah, so here's here's something funny I think 701 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,719 about this song. Okay, So we've already established that Bruce 702 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,599 has never had a real job, even though he sings 703 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,159 about the working man all the time, right, and now 704 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,920 he's talking about his glory days, he said, like on 705 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,440 concert he's like, let me be clear, I hated high school, right, 706 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:24,079 so it doesn't have the fondest memories of high school. 707 00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:27,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. Still not a standout student, not cool enough even 708 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,840 to be the class clown. That's right. Yeah. 709 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,079 Speaker 1: Still great song. Hell yeah, best song on the album 710 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,199 for me, spiking the football all right. Moving on to 711 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,360 a song called Death and in the Dark. 712 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: Okay, The beginning sounds in the song are very similar 713 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,719 to the Born in the USA beginnings, Like you got 714 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,039 that same synthesizer that's going along. The beat is a 715 00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,000 little faster, a little more fun, and it's because it's 716 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,559 a dance beat, because dancing is in the name of 717 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,599 the song. Right. But as we talked about in our 718 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,199 last episode, this was the song that he wrote out 719 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,199 of frustration because John Lando said, you don't have a 720 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,159 hit yet. Boy was he wrong about that. No, he 721 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,199 was right, you don't have a hit. 722 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: You have six hits, yes, right, I'm a little worried 723 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,559 because the other songs only sound like you know, six 724 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,800 top ten hits, right. 725 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: So he they have their fight, land storms out. He's frustrated. 726 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,119 And this, I mean, his life up until that point 727 00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,440 was he starts working in the evening and they record 728 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,119 through the night, and he falls asleep in the morning. 729 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,760 So the idea that I get up in the evening 730 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,039 and I ain't got nothing to say, that is him. 731 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,079 That is I've been doing this. I've been spending all 732 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,599 night for months on end, and you're asking me for 733 00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:02,320 another song and I've got nothing left to say. I've 734 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,960 done this eighty times, I've used all my words. I'm done, 735 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,760 and then I come home in the morning, go to bed, 736 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,239 feel in the same way. So because to bed in 737 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,519 the morning, gets up in the evening. This is the 738 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,679 life of a musician, friends and followers, This is what 739 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,039 you hope for to become a rock star. But at 740 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,800 this point, after all of this, he's nothing but tired 741 00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:26,800 and just bored with himself. He could use just a 742 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,039 little help. I mean, the meaning means so much more 743 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:31,840 now that I know that it's the result of this 744 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,159 big fight that he has after killing himself and getting 745 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000 told you haven't done enough yet. Isn't that cool? Yeah? 746 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,480 This is why I love what we do. 747 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, the deep dive makes me appreciate these guys creations 748 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:56,960 even more. Yeah, I want to say something someway. 749 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:05,159 Speaker 2: Baby stop Stop. 750 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: This song was released May ninth of nineteen eighty four. 751 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,199 That was just a cold days ago, and it reached 752 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,280 number two on the US Hot one hundred. 753 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:28,599 Speaker 2: Wow. 754 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: All right, you want to know what's better than Dancing 755 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,599 the Dark? Yeah, it turns out there's two songs better. 756 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,639 It was blocked for two weeks by two different songs. 757 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,519 Speaker 2: Oh what okay? 758 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,639 Speaker 1: All right, so it was blocked by Deran Duran's The Reflex. 759 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,119 Speaker 2: Okay, that was a big one. 760 00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,039 Speaker 1: That's a big one, right, that's a huge one. 761 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 762 00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:47,119 Speaker 1: And then the week after when Doves Cry. 763 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 2: And another huge one, huge one. Yeah. Wow, Well that's unfortunate, 764 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,760 but this is. 765 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,599 Speaker 1: Still a fantastic It's still a fantastic song. 766 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,639 Speaker 2: Yep. So I think now now that I know the story. 767 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,480 I gotta say, Glory Days has to move down to 768 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,760 the number two spot for me, and this song is 769 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,920 not my favorite song on the album. 770 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: O heay, fantastic us. 771 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: Without this song, we might not have had Courtney Cox, 772 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,079 which means we might not have had a girlfriend on 773 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,880 Family Ties, which means we might not have had Monica 774 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,800 on Franks. Wow. How about that. Thank you John Landau 775 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,119 for being a little bit of a d and making 776 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:21,000 Bruce write just one more song. 777 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,559 Speaker 1: That's right, Thank you so much. You ready talk about 778 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,519 the music video? Yeah, because we're moving there right. 779 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 780 00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: So you've got a young Courtney Cox as you mentioned. Yep, 781 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,159 if he doesn't pull her out of the crowd pull 782 00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,199 her up on stage. That is her with the short 783 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,320 hair in case you got by you there. Okay. This 784 00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,000 was filmed in Saint Paul, Minnesota. They played the song 785 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,679 twice so they could get all the footage they needed. 786 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,199 It was directed by Brian de Palma. 787 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,079 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I would not have picked that. 788 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,559 Speaker 1: Okay. Now, then here is the funny part about this song, 789 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,199 all right. The dance that Bruce is doing on stage 790 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,239 later became the Carlton from Fresh Prince Villair. 791 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 792 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: Okay, one little nugget I thought was hilarious when I 793 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,360 heard about this nugget about dancing the dark. 794 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: You're ready for this? Okay. 795 00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,639 Speaker 1: According to Rolling Stone, this is the only Springsteen song 796 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,000 that Bob Dylan ever covered. Okay, Okay, imagine Bob Dylan 797 00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:19,920 singing dancing in the dark. Okay, I have no trouble 798 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,119 with that. Yes, so when he did it so apparently 799 00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,400 this is January twelfth, nineteen ninety. Bob Dylan flubbed most 800 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,719 of the words and the performance was so bad people 801 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,880 didn't even realize what he was singing. They had no idea. 802 00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: That's that's awkward. They were like, what is this? What 803 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,880 is it? Dancing in the dark? 804 00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: What great song? Feel good song, poppy ear. 805 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: Candy yep, and a great story behind it? Everything I 806 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,000 need this. This is the new number one. 807 00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: This was voted the single of the year by Rolling 808 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,599 Stone listeners. 809 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, finishing strong with another tenth Pole song, 810 00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:59,599 and we've got three in a row here Glory Days, 811 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:06,039 Dancing of Dark, and then we have my hometown sal 812 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:24,519 running with din mind must man. Okay, this is not 813 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,360 a fist bumper, no, But after hearing this song. I 814 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000 don't know how many times in preparation for this I 815 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,119 still almost teared up because the imagery is so vivid 816 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,840 of this little kid running down the street, the diamond 817 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,679 his hand, get in a paper for his old man, 818 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,239 sit on his lap in that big old buick and 819 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000 steer as we drove through town, and he tossled my 820 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,880 hair and say, son, take a good look around. This 821 00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:53,400 is your hometown. And that warm, fuzzy memory, leading into 822 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,360 the racial tension that happens while he's in high school 823 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,800 and the slow spiral out of the town. By the 824 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,960 time that he's an adult and he's got his own 825 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,239 little boy, he's talking with his wife about getting the 826 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480 heck out of there, but then he's riding with his 827 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,599 son in his lap with the steering wheel, saying, son, 828 00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:15,800 this is your hometown. Ah. It is so emotional, so amazing. 829 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:18,800 A love love love the song nice So. 830 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: This song was released November twenty one of nineteen eighty five. 831 00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,760 It reached number six on the Hot one hundred. Ye Now, 832 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,960 for those of you keeping track at home, that's seven singles, 833 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,280 all of them top ten smashes. Now, just a little 834 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,840 addendum to that, this song reached number one on the 835 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,079 Adult Contemporary, which to date is his only number one hit. 836 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,639 Speaker 2: In any category. 837 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,519 Speaker 1: Yep, wow, how about that. 838 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 839 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,119 Speaker 1: I know that is crazy because this was released so 840 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,000 close to Thanksgiving. The B side to this is Santa 841 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,400 Claus Is Coming to Town, which I hear a lot 842 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:56,320 during the Christmas time. 843 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's fun, Bruce having fun for once in 844 00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,400 it's life. 845 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: Before we wrap up the album, I want to throw in. 846 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239 I want to talk about one song, just briefly. This 847 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,199 is a song that didn't make the cut. Pink Cadillac 848 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:33,800 Girls was supposed to be on Born in the USA. 849 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 850 00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: It didn't make the cut, but they later released it 851 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480 as kind of a B side and it reached number 852 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,039 twenty seven. I mean, that's the power of this album 853 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,480 that a song not even good enough to make the 854 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,599 album still was a top thirty hit. 855 00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: It's a great song. Yeah, I'm rotting in my pink. 856 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: Like Prince's little red Corvette. It's a it's a little 857 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:01,079 metaphor for a female. There you go, Pink Cadillac, take 858 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:02,559 a ride in You're pink Cadillac. 859 00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:03,039 Speaker 2: Awkward. 860 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: There you go? 861 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,599 Speaker 2: All right, So fantastic album, Yes, from beginning to end, 862 00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:13,840 maybe one song out of the bunch that I would 863 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,639 go it is okay. The rest of them are amazing, 864 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,159 amazing lyrics, great music, better in my opinion, than anything 865 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,920 he had done up until that point. And as we've 866 00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:29,880 said before, I'm a radio for friendly, big hits Bruce Sky, 867 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:31,920 so that's why I like this album better than his 868 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,519 other albums. But given the success of the album, this 869 00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,360 is obviously an opinion that's shared by many other people. 870 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,079 So that's the end of this part. Join us next 871 00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:52,800 week when we go into Huey Lewis and the News, 872 00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:55,760 the history of Huey Lewis, and then we go track 873 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,159 by track through the album Sports, which also was one 874 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,400 of the few number one albums of nineteen eighty four. 875 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,599 Tune in next week you can hear all about the 876 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,599 albums that reached number one in the year nineteen eighty 877 00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,119 four because there aren't very many and born in the 878 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,639 USA in Sports, where two of. 879 00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: Them come back to the final judgment next week. Hit subscribe, 880 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,199 follow us on Facebook, follow us on Patreon, interact with 881 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,760 us through Twitter. We'd love to hear from you all right, 882 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,159 See you 883 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 2: Guys next week.