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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had this conversation before and I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>remember the outcome of it. But so the portal closes

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<v Speaker 2>on April twenty second for college basketball and I think

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<v Speaker 2>and college football players. So with that, does that mean

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<v Speaker 2>at midnight tonight it's done. I've always thought.

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<v Speaker 3>That it meant that that day is the last day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, as the show started, I thought, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the guys that we're going to hit the

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<v Speaker 2>portal would have already done it, and it's probably, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over there won't be many names hit the portal by

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<v Speaker 2>the time you know it officially ends. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I was wrong. Brandon holy Hatfield, remember him, He's at

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<v Speaker 2>the portal. I'm not sure what kind of a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of school he's looking to get to, but he made

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<v Speaker 2>some good money here. I'm sure he made money at

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<v Speaker 2>inc State, And you know, to me, he was somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that I believed would have have been not not beneficial

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around like I think it made total sense

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<v Speaker 2>for a complete, complete overhaul here and that's really what

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<v Speaker 2>was needed to just kind of start fresh. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was the one guy, if there's one, that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like in the in the second season with Kenny Payne,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, the team was a mess and his

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<v Speaker 2>numbers probably mean his numbers meant very little because they

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<v Speaker 2>came against blowout and blowout losses. But you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>he had some skill to him, right he and I

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<v Speaker 2>really thought that in C State he would be good

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<v Speaker 2>for him. But man, talk about a bad I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he started his career at Tennessee as a freshman, played

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, then he transferred to Louisville where they

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<v Speaker 2>won four games, and then his second season at Louislle

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<v Speaker 2>they won eight games and they transferred NC State, and

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<v Speaker 2>I this is probably an exaggeration, but in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I truly felt like watching Louisville up forty or something

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<v Speaker 2>at Raleigh against Keats, I thought that NC State team

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<v Speaker 2>at times in that game was the closest thing I'd

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<v Speaker 2>seen from a Kenny Payne coach Louisville team just because

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<v Speaker 2>they were a mess in every way, but you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell they didn't have elite talent. They certainly didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>great talent, but like they should not have been nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as they were. So Huntley Hatfield Man, he

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<v Speaker 2>went from one disaster to another and ended up. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that coach has gone now and he's looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a new home.

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<v Speaker 3>So and this is what.

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<v Speaker 2>Interests me, that I be honest with you, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of knee deep into to look it into it during

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<v Speaker 2>the break to see what this whole thing is.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are two players.

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<v Speaker 2>From Clemson that have hit the portal, and you probably

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<v Speaker 2>recognize these names. Jaden Zachary, who is a guard who

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<v Speaker 2>started actually Boston College, transferred to Clemson that was there

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<v Speaker 2>with Brad Brownwell for the last few years. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the big fella, Ian Scheiflin, who does not at all

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<v Speaker 2>look like a player, but pretty effective, pretty good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two guys have hit the portal. And they are

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<v Speaker 2>two guys that do not have eligibility and yet they've

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<v Speaker 2>hit the portal, Like, how can you even do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like you should have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the process is to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, but like, shouldn't you have to put in

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<v Speaker 2>like your your social or something like that, and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>determine if you could enter the portal and if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have eligibility, then you can enter. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt the NSTAA has something that's sophisticated because they can't

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<v Speaker 2>do much of anything the way it should be done.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is from Pete Nacho's from mon three Sports,

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<v Speaker 2>who again earned a lot of a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to his reporting when he was the

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<v Speaker 2>one who actually had it right about Nico and Knoxville,

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<v Speaker 2>where his dad's saying that this report is untrue and

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<v Speaker 2>calling this reporter names. And yet this guy was absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>right and went against the guys, the player's dad and

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<v Speaker 2>ended up, you know, sticking to his guns and trusting

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<v Speaker 2>his sources, and he was right.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is what he reports.

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<v Speaker 2>Was told by a source that Clemson is letting Shiflin

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<v Speaker 2>and Jaden Zachary enter the portal despite the players not

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<v Speaker 2>having any eligibility remaining in case a lawsuit allows players

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<v Speaker 2>five years of eligibility. So this is where I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is kind of sad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame him, right, if you you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a chance, you know, why not take a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Just what do you have to lose if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>work out right, If you get an extra year, then

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<v Speaker 2>then hell yeah, I mean you probably a few of

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<v Speaker 2>these players you're thinking, yeah, my college career is over,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, why not at least enter the portal

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<v Speaker 2>and let things play out. And who knows, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>wake up one day and I realize I can play again,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no harm in that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just something that's become kind of odd about entering

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<v Speaker 2>the portal with no eligibility and no real case to

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<v Speaker 2>argue that you should get a waiver to get another year,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like one thing, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are appaying for a medical red shirt or you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>the JUCO thing. I don't think he has a I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he will or should win it. But the

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<v Speaker 2>big fellow from Charleston that is out of eligibility, he's lost.

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<v Speaker 2>His lawsuit claims that the NCABLEA should not tell him

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<v Speaker 2>he's no longer eligible when he's got a million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on the table to go play somewhere because they're counting

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<v Speaker 2>his eligibility when when he was at D two again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how you would even win that, because

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<v Speaker 2>the JUCO rule is different, because the ju Juco is

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<v Speaker 2>not a part of the nstable at all, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>taking years of eligibility from you that you did not

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<v Speaker 2>use under in one of their member institutions. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So D two, it's still in stuble A. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it should still count. So there's really no harm, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, just seeing what happens, right, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>playing the lottery when you buy a ticket for a buck,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, that's all you lost is a dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>If you win, change your life, Like why not do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, it just seems kind of I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe as I talk through it here, it's not sad

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<v Speaker 2>because again, I'm sure these guys, most of them are aware.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what would make it sad is if they

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<v Speaker 2>truly don't know what to do with their life at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like just living in complete delusion and denial

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<v Speaker 2>that their college career after six or seven years is

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<v Speaker 2>finally over. That's where it would be sad. But I

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<v Speaker 2>highly doubt that that's the situation for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. But Jeff Goodman reports there are six players

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal from the ACC that are seeking another year,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no justification as to why they would get

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<v Speaker 2>another year other than hoping that the NCAA just decides

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna give players five years of eligibility just to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I mean, that's isn't that kind of sad? Again,

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<v Speaker 2>the naas never seen more beatable in court, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like right now you can go do anything

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<v Speaker 2>and you just hold you know, you dare him to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of challenge you, and if they do, you hire

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<v Speaker 2>a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>They lose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been pretty routine when it comes to the NCAA's

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<v Speaker 2>battles as of late. But these are guys like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>ft and Reed is a big man from wake Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played four seasons, one year at LSU one a

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzaga to a wake Forest, played in one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen games. My man, your run is over, your eligibility

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<v Speaker 2>is done. I mean it's time to go be a doctor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>refresh that LinkedIn bio brother, Like, come on now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you got your degree. Although I did see something

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not saying this guy didn't have a degree,

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<v Speaker 2>But this is one of the downsides of the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can still you know, it's worth doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you bounce around from school to school, not

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<v Speaker 2>everything's going to transfer to where you may be eligible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a really low bar to be eligible play.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Obtaining you know, your degree as far as keeping yourself

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<v Speaker 2>on track, like if you're changing mid if you're changing

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<v Speaker 2>majors and all that, and certain things transfer and others don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You could play four years of college basketball at three

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<v Speaker 2>different schools and still be two years away from actually

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<v Speaker 2>getting your degree. Again, it's probably is still worth it

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<v Speaker 2>because again, you're making a lot of money. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume a lot of these guys who are transferring

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<v Speaker 2>the reason they're doing it is because they're making money.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, in four seasons, f Fton Reed played

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<v Speaker 2>in an average of twenty nine and a half games.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucas Taylor is Syracuse. Don't even know who this guy is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played five seasons, two at Wake, one at Georgia State,

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<v Speaker 2>one at Syracuse. Now he's only played ninety one career games.

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie Lampkin Junior, this guy's been everywhere. I remember him

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<v Speaker 2>six to eleven, big guy who played at Syracuse last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Five seasons, one hundred and thirty seven career games, three

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<v Speaker 2>at TCU, one at Colorado, won at Syracuse. My man,

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<v Speaker 2>it is over. The run has come to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had a hell of a career. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>not legendary, but I mean you got to experience awful Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 2>But before that, you know, you were out in beautiful Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>teammates with the one and only Javon Hadley, and then

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<v Speaker 2>at TCU played for Jamie Dixon. And I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>had you know, had a good time there. But it's over. Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>starts your life. Ben Middlebrooks n C State, oh four seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>two of them were at NC State most recently, and

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<v Speaker 2>then two at Clemson. Played one hundred and thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>career games, went to a final four, like you you

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<v Speaker 2>should have just walked then.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Blackman, I remember this guy, by the way, four seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and nine career games. He played at Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Canyon for a year, played at Stetson for two, and

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<v Speaker 2>then went at Miami last year. Christian Tucker, he's transferring

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<v Speaker 2>out of Cal. One hundred and twenty career games in

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<v Speaker 2>four seasons, played three at UTSA and then this last

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<v Speaker 2>season at CAL.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're probably gonna get told no. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the question is this, if you realize in your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>why not do it? The NCAA has been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just giving out waivers like crazy lately. Why not try

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<v Speaker 2>this again? There's no harm in that. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a plan post basketball, and you can put that

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<v Speaker 2>plan on hold if you get another year again, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no real harm. However, I mean, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing to these guys. Maybe maybe I'm an a hole

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<v Speaker 2>for thinking this is something they should be embarrassed about.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they shouldn't be embarrassed at all. But like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the more this, the more this is talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>allowed like people will really like this is sad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more sad stuff going on in the

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<v Speaker 2>back to being Clemson basketball of old. All right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>All right. We've talked about the NFL Draft today and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll continue to do that throughout the week because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just a few days away from the draft. And

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Tyler Shuck, he continues to be

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what it comes down to is that, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe this is smoke screen that like, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's not at all on the radar. He's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of a strategy here to put it

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<v Speaker 2>this is a little bit of I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>But like I bet there's been guys in the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>Like, we don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>What everybody loves about this guy, but man, everybody's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about him, and here he is available for us in

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<v Speaker 2>the third round.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to take him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I bet that's happened, because that's how Caddy and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, paranoid and really, I guess competitive the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>to hear Adam Schefter report today that he's talked to

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<v Speaker 2>people who actually believe that Chuck is the best quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in this draft, that's crazy. Now, I don't think that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think anybody's claiming he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>But what if he was. I mean, he won't be,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it'd be crazy. So I think just just

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<v Speaker 2>guessing here, that's what we're all doing. I would I

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<v Speaker 2>think that a first round pick is probably not likely

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, but I think the scenario is this.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a team in the later rounds that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't need a quarterback right now, but they know they

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<v Speaker 2>will soon, and they like him enough to where they're thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to let this guy passes by. We

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<v Speaker 2>think he's the best quarterback in this draft. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we never thought he'd be here, but this will keep

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<v Speaker 2>hope for a much better quarterback class next year in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. So again, I can't remember the last time

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<v Speaker 2>just wanting to see what happens with with the Louisville player. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>with Lamar a little different because you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. I mean he's He's Lamar And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but clearly that that worked out well for him. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So back to basketball here, A couple people have asked

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<v Speaker 2>who is Louisville Like, who are they going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to finish out their roster with? And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>But for those that you know, I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>have Casein. And again, he hasn't put anything out that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that says like he's entering the portal or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>back at Louisville, because again, he hasn't even hit the

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<v Speaker 2>portal yet to be recruited by their schools. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume right now, whatever it is they're doing behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes to try to finish out this roster, Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey and his staff are doing that with case and

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<v Speaker 2>what they should be doing. But as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the best players available, you're looking at PJ. Haggerty,

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<v Speaker 3>Guard duties like that, that's had a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>of Jeff Goobman reported that a lot of the big

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<v Speaker 2>time schools have already kind of pulled out and and

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard much about really anything as far as where

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<v Speaker 2>he may end up. But yeah, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys that are you know, highly

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that Louisville's next pieces from the portal will probably

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<v Speaker 2>not be guys that are you know, viewed as like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody wants, because again, their roster's pretty much set.

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<v Speaker 3>Like at guard.

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell them he can compete, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity, but they're gonna know that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>they got this freshman binom coming in, Michael Brown Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've added three guards in the portal that clearly

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<v Speaker 2>they prioritize more so than me. So these names, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else. But those end up being really difficult to get,

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<v Speaker 2>stands right now, Louisville still looks like they've got a

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<v Speaker 2>roster that should be considered you know, they should be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top ten teams in the country next year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exciting to say. We'll see if it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about it in April doesn't mean it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>play out that way, but a good position to be

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<v Speaker 2>in and who knows. Maybe if they add more players,

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<v Speaker 2>which they certainly will, maybe if it's certain guys, they

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<v Speaker 3>All let's do this. Let's get to a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll try to keep this thing on track to where

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<v Speaker 3>So stick with us.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we get closer to the NFL Draft, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>continue to hear people referencing some of the biggest bus

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<v Speaker 2>that have taken place over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Different opinion than a lot of people when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to what makes a draft bust, because, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people will mention Greg Odin And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised by that. But he got hurt. He didn't plan,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't pan out to be terrible, He had career

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<v Speaker 2>ending injuries and it ruined his career and he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't play anymore. Yeah, technically, I guess you know your

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<v Speaker 2>injuries were the reason he didn't play. It wasn't if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't as if you evaluated a guy and you

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<v Speaker 2>were wrong about his talent. Now, I guess you were

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<v Speaker 3>But I just feel like that's so obviously a different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess I'm in the minority because I don't

422
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<v Speaker 2>think other people see it that way. Like, let me

423
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<v Speaker 2>give you another example actually before we do that, when

424
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the biggest NBA draft bust of all time,

425
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<v Speaker 2>I I don't. I think this guy is so forgettable

426
00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and had such a little and I mean little impact

427
00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.160
<v Speaker 2>or even really involvement. Impact would be he didn't have

428
00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.200
<v Speaker 2>any impact in the NBA at all, but he had

429
00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.839
<v Speaker 2>very little involvement that he's so easy to forget. But

430
00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.559
<v Speaker 2>to me, he is without question the biggest draft bust

431
00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.799
<v Speaker 2>of any draft, any sport, any level, anytime.

432
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<v Speaker 3>And that's Anthony Bennett. I mean Anthony Bennett.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I remember was at UNLV and played one season, went

434
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<v Speaker 2>number one overall to the Calves, and I mean he

435
00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.079
<v Speaker 2>was out of the NBA all together.

436
00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Within two years.

437
00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's crazy, right, And it wasn't like he

438
00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.400
<v Speaker 2>was getting in trouble. It wasn't as if like he

439
00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>was a you know some guys. It's both like JaMarcus

440
00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Russell wasn't nearly as good as anybody thought he was

441
00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:52.279
<v Speaker 2>going to be, but he also did stupid stuff like

442
00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.680
<v Speaker 2>not reading the playbook. This guy just wasn't good enough

443
00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.279
<v Speaker 2>to play in the NBA at all, and the Calves

444
00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>drafted him number one overall, and then Braun wanted to

445
00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:04.599
<v Speaker 2>come back. Therefore it turned into where, you know, quickly,

446
00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.599
<v Speaker 2>you just forget he existed. But to me, that is

447
00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the biggest bust, because he was taken as the number

448
00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.559
<v Speaker 2>one pick overall and he could not play at.

449
00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:15.799
<v Speaker 3>All in the league. Taken as a reach too.

450
00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.279
<v Speaker 2>He was the first guy I can ever remember being

451
00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>taken early in the draft and not being able to

452
00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:24.680
<v Speaker 2>hide how shocked he was that he got drafted, you

453
00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like it was. I mean, he

454
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:27.480
<v Speaker 2>was there in attendance and he walked up and that

455
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.359
<v Speaker 2>was a really bad draft, by the way. And here's

456
00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.759
<v Speaker 2>here's another thing that like that that I don't think

457
00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.640
<v Speaker 2>is fair for certain guys to be listed as as

458
00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:40.319
<v Speaker 2>a as busts. So like Jadavian Clowney, he was the

459
00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.359
<v Speaker 2>number one pick overall, and I would say that he

460
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.359
<v Speaker 2>has not been as good as people thought he was

461
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.400
<v Speaker 2>based off the hype that he had because he had.

462
00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 3>A ton of hype. Yeah, that tackle.

463
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's still he's still in the NFL at

464
00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:54.640
<v Speaker 2>least he was as of last year with the Panthers.

465
00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:58.119
<v Speaker 2>But he's he's made Pro Bowls three he made he's

466
00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:02.519
<v Speaker 2>actually a three time Pro Bowl guy. He's second team

467
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.880
<v Speaker 2>All NFL in twenty sixteen. I mean he's been a

468
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.599
<v Speaker 2>very I mean, he's been a good NFL player.

469
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, i'd say so. He's been only ten years.

470
00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:13.759
<v Speaker 2>So like, I don't you know, if you can be

471
00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:17.880
<v Speaker 2>an All Pro and you've played over a decade, you're

472
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<v Speaker 2>not a bust. You you maybe didn't live up to

473
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.079
<v Speaker 2>what the hype was. But that that's a different conversation

474
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<v Speaker 2>than being a bust.

475
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<v Speaker 1>You agree.

476
00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.839
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't Lawrence Taylor or anything, but he was a

477
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.200
<v Speaker 4>serviceable guy when you needed an ed drusher y.

478
00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he's he's a guy that I just

479
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.240
<v Speaker 2>don't understand how people put him in the bust category,

480
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and yet and yet they do. And here's another here's

481
00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:37.599
<v Speaker 2>why they do that, and it's another reason why. I

482
00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.119
<v Speaker 2>just you know, to me, it's just my opinion and

483
00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.720
<v Speaker 2>clearly doesn't mean much of anything because I'm in the minority.

484
00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:44.119
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people view this differently. But if you

485
00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.880
<v Speaker 2>look at the twenty fourteen NFL draft, yeah, there's better

486
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>players that came after him because he was number one.

487
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that wasn't a great draft, but you had

488
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<v Speaker 2>Khalil mack co number five, Mike Evans went number seven.

489
00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean Odell Beckham number twelve, twelve, Aaron

490
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Donald number thirteen, which is kind of crazy. So look,

491
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.799
<v Speaker 2>those guys are better, without question. I've had better careers,

492
00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.839
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't make him a bust. Somebody going after

493
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:12.680
<v Speaker 2>you and being really good doesn't mean in any way

494
00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that you are a bust. I mean, at least in

495
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:15.640
<v Speaker 2>my opinion.

496
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, again, a.

497
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Bust is a guy like man because bust is extreme being.

498
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>There's no good way to be called a bust, and

499
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.960
<v Speaker 2>it just gets thrown around loosely. And it also gets

500
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>thrown around because of like Jannisante Tokupo was the best

501
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>player in the twenty and thirteen draft that we just referenced. Well, like,

502
00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 2>if that's the case, everybody was a bust who going

503
00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>ahead of him? Now again clearly the number one picking

504
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 2>that draft, Bennett we just discussed.

505
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.200
<v Speaker 3>That's that's big time bust.

506
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And since we're talking about all time bust, another name

507
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.519
<v Speaker 2>that comes in the conversation Purvis Ellison. I'll defend him.

508
00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>He was the number one pick in the draft. And obviously,

509
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, he didn't ever play like a guy that

510
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>you looked like that you know, that looked like somebody

511
00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 2>worthy of being the number one player taken. But he

512
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:05.319
<v Speaker 2>also played in the NBA for well over a decade

513
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and was you know, productive up until you know, his

514
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>last few years. And he had a season in nineteen

515
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 2>ninety two where he averaged twenty points in twelve rebounds.

516
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was most improved player in ninety two. Again,

517
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 2>he played over ten years, So yeah, he didn't necessarily

518
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.759
<v Speaker 2>play like a guy that you know, you would have

519
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>ever thought would be worthy of being taken as the

520
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 2>number one pick in the draft. But like, if you

521
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.319
<v Speaker 2>play a decade in the NBA, I just think it's

522
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>insanity to say that that person is a bust. You know,

523
00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 2>hardest to play in the NBA, you know, hard itest

524
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 2>to do for ten years.

525
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Like that's crazy.

526
00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, there's other players that went after him that

527
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.799
<v Speaker 2>that you know ended up having better careers, but you

528
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 2>know not. I mean, I'm looking here at the nineteen

529
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine draft when Purvis went number one, Danny Ferry

530
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>went number two, Shawn Elliott number three, Glenn Rice number four, Jr.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Reid number five, Like all these guys good players, trust me,

532
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I know that, but I don't. I mean, and again,

533
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys that is referenced were better

534
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:11.279
<v Speaker 2>than purpose, but not really by that much. I mean,

535
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 2>they had better careers, more memorable. And it's unfortunate because

536
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>when you go number one, even if you play ten years.

537
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>In fact, the longer you stick around, the more people

538
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 2>are reminded that you were the number one pick and

539
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 2>that you're a bust. Like it's just that'll probably never change.

540
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>That's just what comes with being the number one pick

541
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 2>in a draft. But if you think about it, the

542
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 2>standard is so high for NBA and NFL draft picks.

543
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 2>They go number one, how many do we sit back

544
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and say, yeah, that guy he was worthy of the

545
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.039
<v Speaker 2>number one pick. Like sometimes you got guys, they go

546
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>number one based off of a specific team's need, and

547
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the team would probably tell you behind closed doors, Yeah,

548
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>if we didn't, you know, we needed this position, the

549
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 2>next seven picks don't. Therefore, yeah, we get it. He

550
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>probably would go number eight, but we need him and

551
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>we need it bad. We need somebody to you know,

552
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>protect our quarterback on the offensive line, that kind of stuff.

553
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to worst NFL draft picks of

554
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>all time that went, you know, I mean you're gonna

555
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>hear names that obviously, like JaMarcus Russell is certainly up there.

556
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Who well, let me see if I Yeah, so here's

557
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 3>some name like Ryan Leaf.

558
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a big one obviously, and it's because obviously he

559
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 2>went before Peyton Manning, didn't he.

560
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had a caller that referenced Tim Couch right

561
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.079
<v Speaker 4>now as a bust.

562
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, again, I get it, but I think going back

563
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 2>to a conversation we had earlier, Austin he was set

564
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.839
<v Speaker 2>up for failure in Cleveland like he would he would

565
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>have been, And I mean, who will never know, right,

566
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it's the ultimate unknown. But like I don't know what

567
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:41.079
<v Speaker 2>quarterback could have gone into Cleveland when Tim Couch did,

568
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>that would have made them much better.

569
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll defend him on that. Yeah, I mean that's

570
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>just that, and that's so obvious.

571
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Yet it just doesn't get Maybe it's just the jealousy

572
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of people like you know, average Joe's

573
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 2>like myself that like.

574
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh I got stunk.

575
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, do you know many other Like there's

576
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>certain dudes who, Yes, there are certain dudes whose careers

577
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>have literally been defined by timing and they went to

578
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 2>a team that no matter, like no matter you could

579
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 2>you could take. This is something Again, I just wish

580
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 2>more people would consider this. There are teams out there

581
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>right now that are awful, that are you know, that

582
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>are gonna draft a quarterback maybe or you know, in

583
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a previous year's draft they're terrible and.

584
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 3>They know they got to go pick a quarterback.

585
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 2>You could take a quarterback that's believed to be maybe

586
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>one of the top twelve thirteen in the league. In

587
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that range, you put that quarterback that's played in the league,

588
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.559
<v Speaker 2>that's got a starting spot, that clearly is having some

589
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 2>success because they're continuing. They're believed to be a top

590
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>fifteen quarterback. You put that guy in the same spot

591
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>that you're putting a rookie quarterback. I bet there's not

592
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that much of a difference because some of these franchises

593
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and ownership they're inept, like it's not the player, it's

594
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>the system. It's it's And that's not to say these

595
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>guys would be elite had they gone elsewhere, but like,

596
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>good luck making it work if you're drafted by the Jaguars, right, like,

597
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, it's how it is. Or the Jets, yeah,

598
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, or the Browns like that. And again it's

599
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>not like a one off. It's been like routine. You

600
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.319
<v Speaker 2>go to certain places at quarterback, you're gonna be screwed,

601
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>like the Browns. I mean, if the Browns ever successfully

602
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 2>got it right at quarterback on draft night. No, in fact,

603
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the one time they did, they they ended

604
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>up letting a diva receiver come in and create a

605
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>toxic situation and that let Baker Mayfield kind of get

606
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>a fresh start. And Baker's not elite, but he's better

607
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 2>than any quarterback they've had in a long time.

608
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Quarterback, Yeah, you could win with him. He's a winner.

609
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, they brought in beck Odell Beckham

610
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and he starts, you know, complaining about Baker and not

611
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>getting touches, and yeah, created a toxic situation, so they

612
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>decided to part ways with him. And you know, in

613
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>all aspects, Breaker Mayfield, that's some of the best, you know,

614
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.799
<v Speaker 2>his story overall, from from beginning to now. I mean

615
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>he could in now and he would have I think,

616
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>something you'd see in a movie. I mean maybe not

617
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 2>because of like you know, he hadn't had that big

618
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 2>ultimate NFL moment, but I mean him getting a fresh

619
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>start and winning and getting Tampa to the playoffs both

620
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>years of as their starter after being you know, basically

621
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>written off. I mean, that's a good story. So same

622
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 2>thing with Sam Donald and Geno Smith, Like you get

623
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 2>drafted to the Jets, Please Sam Donald, save our franchise,

624
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Please Geno Smith, save our franchise, and just get thrown

625
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>out their day one and and and they're they're set

626
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>up for failure.

627
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 4>But now they just go to different organizations. It's going

628
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 4>to be able to pamper to them and they actually

629
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 4>have winning cultures. Like I know, the Vikings have never

630
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 4>won a Super Bowl, but they're far, far, far from

631
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>a dumpster fire. Team Seahawks have obviously been to Super

632
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Bowl one one, and they're just structurally more contained than

633
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 4>any of the other ones that we just previously mentioned.

634
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 4>So you could put a quarterback like there that was

635
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 4>once a part of the land of the Dying quarterbacks.

636
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think the next one is people are looking

637
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 4>at is the Max Wilson kid, because he's on free

638
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 4>agency right now. Wilson, Zach Wilson, I say, Max Wilson, Yeah,

639
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 4>Sach Wilson, Yeah.

640
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's somebody that Again it's the Jets, right,

641
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, So I just put it so the

642
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 2>worst quarterback's biggest busts, I should say as far as

643
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>guy's taken really early, I mean to Marcus Russell's is

644
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>going to always be number one hit, eighteen touchdowns, twenty

645
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>three interceptions. I mean, he was out of the league

646
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 2>in three seasons. Couch I did forget this. He had

647
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 2>injuries as well. That was a big factor. But again

648
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>with even when healthy, and here's what's crazy, maybe he's

649
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 2>somebody also that we throw in there as Okay, yeah

650
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a bust, but man, he was injuries.

651
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>He so listen to this.

652
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Again, these are not impressive numbers. He was drafted by

653
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the Browns in nineteen ninety nine. He went twenty three

654
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and thirty seven as a starter, never played again after

655
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three. I mean, there's no way to

656
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 2>say that that's good and that's a good, you know,

657
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 2>rundown of his career. But like the Browns were expansion

658
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>at the time and they were brand new. Yeah, and

659
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just feel like if you look at

660
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>him overall, nobody would say, yeah, thek I was a

661
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>good quarterback, but you have to consider where he like

662
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the situation. Yeah, more than just that he wasn't good?

663
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Are David Carr? He's easy to forget because he was

664
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>on the He was the guy drafted by the expansion Texans,

665
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So like that's just a blur of an arrow when

666
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>they started and the Texans launched.

667
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 3>But he was bad.

668
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

669
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 2>And then this is one that I remember in real

670
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>time thinking like, dude, this guy he kind of stinks,

671
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and yet he keeps getting opportunities and he keeps like

672
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>he's still living off the hype he had early on

673
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>in college with Sam Bradford.

674
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mean, he was taken. Was he number one? I

675
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 3>think he was. He was a Heisman winner.

676
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean he he was, and he obviously is the guy.

677
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Would I would attribute his to more injuries he for what?

678
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 4>For whatever reason? Was he ever good though?

679
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 3>In the NFL. I don't really remember him ever.

680
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Like he had a short step with the Vikings that

681
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 4>were undefeated for six and then it then then then

682
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 4>it kind of fell off. But they had drafted they

683
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 4>had traded their number one pick the Vikings. This was

684
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>when right after Teddy Bridgewater shredded his knee in practice,

685
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 4>literally two weeks before the season, and the Vikings felt

686
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 4>like they had a pretty decent roster go ahead and

687
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 4>compete because they were about to hand the keys of

688
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 4>the city over to Teddy Bridgewater.

689
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 3>But they needed a panic really bad.

690
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 4>So they went out and got Sam Bradford started six

691
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 4>and oh that year and thought that he did really

692
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 4>well and then it kind of fell off. Then the

693
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 4>very next year he has a best career. He has

694
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 4>the best game of his career Monday Night Football against

695
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 4>the Saints, absolutely torches him and then didn't play for

696
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 4>the next two weeks. Turns out that his knee was

697
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 4>shredded and that's where case Keenum came in and led

698
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 4>him through that magic.

699
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Carpet, right.

700
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong, but I don't think it was

701
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe because of him, but he's just the guy that

702
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>comes to mind for a lot of people, including myself,

703
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>that he got there. You know, those rookie contracts used

704
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>to have so much money on him to where like

705
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the NFL Players Association fought and they got it changed

706
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>where you can't have so much of the roster salary

707
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>cap allotted to a guy that's trapped it, you know

708
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like he's one of the I think

709
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>he's the last quarterback that got paid an insane amount

710
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of money based off his rookie deal and like he

711
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>never really did anything to like, you know, never did

712
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>anything with it.

713
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it never led up to the XBC because he

714
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 4>was throwing four or five hundred yards a game.

715
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I just remember watching him in the NFL multiple times

716
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 2>and realizing, like, all, all I haven't heard about this

717
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>guy is that he's he's the guy, he's the future,

718
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>he's this, you know, he's he's great. And I never

719
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>watched him and felt like he was average, Like I

720
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>thought he's stunk. But again, you know, I probably didn't

721
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 2>watch closely, and you know, maybe I maybe maybe maybe

722
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 2>it was.

723
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 3>More injury related.

724
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe if I remember right his his I think

725
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 4>he won the Heisman as junior season. Then there's tons

726
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 4>of hype around him that very next year, and I

727
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 4>think he I think he tore his kyler bone like

728
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 4>the first the first game of the season.

729
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>He may have been out the rest of the year.

730
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I think one that don't quote. Do you remember Josh Rosen.

731
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>He's got to be in a conversation right because he

732
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>taken over Lamar. He was taken with the tenth pick

733
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>in the twenty eighteen draft, and was he was. He

734
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>was one of the first guys I remember, like he

735
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 2>came right out of college, right out of high school,

736
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>I should say, at UCLA as a freshman and really

737
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>was just I mean, you could you know he was

738
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the California.

739
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Quarterback everybody was raving about. He had everything you need.

740
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>He had the size at you know, at six four,

741
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifteen pounds, great arm. Was just bred

742
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>to be a quarterback. His whole life showed signs of

743
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>that very much so in his freshman year at UCLA

744
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 2>and then it kind of went down from there, like

745
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>he it kind of feel like his best season might

746
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>have been his freshman season. But then he gets drafted,

747
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, maybe it's just because I was, you know,

748
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>it had been force fed into our minds that this

749
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 2>guy was the future. I thought he had a chance

750
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty good. He he played for the Cardinals

751
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 2>one season and started it looks like thirteen games. He

752
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>went three and ten as a quarterback. Then he ended

753
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>up at Miami and played in three games and or

754
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>started three games, lost all three of them, and then

755
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>he never played again.

756
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

757
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Well he only played two three season, so he only

758
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>really played one season. Yeah too, I guess because in

759
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Miami he did play nine games but only started three.

760
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 2>And then after that he was with the Niners briefly

761
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty didn't play, and then with the Falcons

762
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 2>he was there for four games in twenty twenty one,

763
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>but he never pl light. So, I mean, that's a

764
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>guy that's easy to forget. But you're talking about a

765
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 2>guy that was taken with the tenth pick. Who drafted him,

766
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>by the way, was it the Cardinals?

767
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

768
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Josh Rosen, Yeah, the Cardinals, And then it was very

769
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 4>the very next year drafted Kyler.

770
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, And that's that's something you didn't used

771
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 2>to see a team willing to just walk away from

772
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>a huge investment, and you know like that, Like, let

773
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>me give you an example, and I'm gonna tie to

774
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>my Colts. If the Colts came out and walked away

775
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>from Anthony Richardson, it would be big news.

776
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 3>It would be, you know, be a big piece of news.

777
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>But who would ultimately say that, Like they're like if

778
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>they traded up, and this isn't a good year to

779
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 2>do it, but like if there was, when's the last

780
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>time you think we had like all the quarterback that

781
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody felt like, there's no doubt this guy is not

782
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be great. I can't think of him the

783
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>last time we had one. Because nowadays, no matter how

784
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>highly regarded they are, there's a there's a part of

785
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>this process that they get torn down.

786
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I believe Burrow you put Let's say.

787
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's say Burrow is there and the Colts, after two

788
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>years of Richardson, they trade up to get Burrow and

789
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>either cut Richardson or trade him or whatever it may be,

790
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Like nobody'd be surprised, right, Like, this is what makes

791
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>me mad about the Colts is that they're they're living

792
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're living in La la land that this guy's

793
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna learn on the job and be successful. There's some

794
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 2>jobs you can you know, you can learn on the

795
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>go and pick it up. Not NFL quarterback. Yeah, guy's

796
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>never been a winner at any level as a quarterback.

797
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>He's all. He's only there because they're talking about. Oh

798
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>he's got this cannon for an arm, and he's so fast,

799
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>he's built like a mack truck. Can he throw the

800
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>football to his teammates and move the ball downfield? Can

801
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 2>he play without getting hurt? Can't do any of those things?

802
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Last that checked pretty important in that position. But I'm

803
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 2>just a sad Colts fan. All right, quick break, We'll

804
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>come back and wrap it up on the other side

805
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

806
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

807
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine day.

808
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<v Speaker 2>So finally, at least somebody's planning the situation. Ian Shaiflin

809
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 2>is one of the many guys that have hit the portal,

810
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>but no eligibility left, but just seeing what happens.

811
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 3>He can read the room.

812
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>He understands, you know, he has some ability to you know, again,

813
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>read the room like see what this looks like. Understand optics,

814
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>he says, while I'm putting my options, I said, while

815
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm pursuing options on the professional level, I've been advised

816
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>due to depending instead of a case is to enter

817
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>the portal on the very outside chance more.

818
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Eligibility is allowed. That's at least an explanation.

819
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, that makes sense, and I imagine

820
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what a lot of these guys are doing.

821
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 3>But and there's no harm in it.

822
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just it would be sad if they like are

823
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>doing it because they're just trying so desperately to avoid

824
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>starting life after, you know, basketball.

825
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 3>But anyways, let me.

826
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Tell you Littal Coo before we get out here about

827
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the Uvver Men's Clinic. You guys have heart me talk

828
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 2>about him for a long time now, and I don't

829
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 2>have any plans on stopping that because they've been very,

830
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>very impactful at helping me become happier and healthier. Didn't

831
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>even realize that what I thought was just getting older

832
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>was the fact that I had low testosterone and I

833
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>was educate aid by doctor Wood. As far as just

834
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that it is a thing that happens to many men

835
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>that are in their thirties, even some in the twenties

836
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 2>that you just start to not you no longer produce

837
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the same levels of testosterone to where your levels no

838
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>longer are in the range for your age. And that's why,

839
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, instead of feeling, you know, like a you

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<v Speaker 2>Say that's so fast, but you got any bets for tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, let's know what you cook up. I got.

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<v Speaker 4>I got Oganaobi twenty points and Josh Hart to have

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<v Speaker 4>ten rebounds.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think they came out the border one.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a big he's a big rebounding guard, that's for sure. Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I need it. I'm I want. I'm on a heater.

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<v Speaker 2>We need I mad tail just to have fun because

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<v Speaker 2>I need some action, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's it's a high scoring game, especially

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<v Speaker 4>like with those two teams right there, so it should

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<v Speaker 4>be it should it should be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's ride.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We're right here, you guys, enjoy your evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at it tomorrow, right here on Sports Talk seven

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