WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.320 What is up, fellasicos. I am Dan Favalley coming at 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:09.160 you with our annual buy or Sell the biggest Takeaways 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:13.439 from NBA Summer League. Coming at You delayed this year 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.880 for two good reasons. One, I have a guest on 5 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:19.719 who's not grant first time. Yes, Stephen Gillespie of no 6 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.760 draft No, my god, no drafts, no ceilings NBA always 7 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.679 do that. Follow them on the Twitter machine at no Ceiling, 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.120 No Ceilings NBA. And you can follow Steven on Twitter 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:34.200 at steven g hoops. That's at s T E P 10 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:38.359 h E n G h O O p S. Thank 11 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:40.799 you so much Steven for coming on. This is also 12 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.159 delayed though, because Lebron just doesn't care about our Summer 13 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.719 League takeaways schedule. 14 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.359 Yeah yeah, First off, shout out Lebron James for keeping 15 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.399 the whole basketball community hostage. Hopefully this is the last 16 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.320 time we ever have to worry about anything like that. 17 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:56.880 But Dan, thanks for having me. 18 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.359 You know, I see it on your shirt and you 19 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.439 introduced you know that we're doing this for the sickos. 20 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.879 It's it's so fitting that you're having me on because 21 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.599 over at No Ceilings, my co host Jam and I 22 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.719 we do a podcast and we are known as the 23 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:12.760 draft sickos, So this just felt like it was kind 24 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.319 of meant to be that we were going to be 25 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:16.439 doing a show together. Man. But happy to be here, 26 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.920 happy to talk summer League, and glad that we're starting this, 27 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:22.760 you know, basketball relationship between the two of us. 28 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:22.959 Man. 29 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:24.719 I can't wait to see how the show goes and 30 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.200 what the future holds for just us two kind of 31 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.400 draft renegades here, but. 32 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.120 I have enough of don't call me a draft run again. 33 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:33.719 I chop her in for like a couple months a 34 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.879 year on the guys who really gets to the NBA. 35 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.680 But yes, I've been following no ceilings for a while, 36 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.239 of course, and then you and Iron locked on knicks 37 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.439 together and you were kind of to come on, let 38 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.760 me pick your brain about rookies and sophomores, and you're 39 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.920 gonna play buy or sell with me. I'm always I 40 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.599 love when people are down to do that. So are 41 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:54.640 you ready to get started? 42 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.640 I could not be more ready, Dan, And I know 43 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.519 I told you this on the side. I'd be remiss 44 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.439 if I didn't mention it here on the pod while 45 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:04.560 we're recording, But you sent me the outline for the show, 46 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.240 and I was looking at this and I got super jealous. Man, 47 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.280 I'm like, how in the world did we never think 48 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:14.400 to do something like this? Like I responded back to you, 49 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.280 and I was like, Dan, I'm so excited to be 50 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.000 on the show because this might be my most favorite 51 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.199 line of questioning that I've ever been asked as a 52 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:23.599 guest on somebody else's show. 53 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:24.840 So I'm ready to go. 54 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.080 Dude, your Venmo's on the way. Thank you so much 55 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:27.280 for that. 56 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.520 Okay, good, Yeah, if you need me to, you know, 57 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.800 spell the characters out so you can send that my way. 58 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.080 Whatever you need to talk about it after. 59 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.199 Well, you were much too conder, especially because the outline 60 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.120 came late because again Lebron James. But we're gonna start 61 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:43.719 with some of the top picks, and I'm interested. I 62 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.360 just I would love to know your general thoughts on 63 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.240 any of these guys. If you have ones that you 64 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.520 don't think people have noticed or deviate from consensus, you 65 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.879 could feel free to say that the buyer sell is 66 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:55.280 stupid too. I always appreciate those as well. We will 67 00:02:55.319 --> 00:03:00.719 begin with the first overall pick in the draft. AJ 68 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.560 debantsa my buyer cell. I have two buyer sells for 69 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.199 him obviously because of who he is. My first buyer, 70 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.280 cell is, do you buy, buy or sell that he 71 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.719 will be more of a defensive playmaker in the NBA 72 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.400 than he was in college, because that was one of 73 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.599 my biggest concerns again during the minimal prep I did 74 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.560 before the draft, and then it felt like he was 75 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.479 just making coming up with more of those stocks for 76 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.719 sure in general during during his brief summer lea extint, 77 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.599 but also just more active defensively in general. Do you 78 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:36.199 see that being a realistic equilibrium for him to strike 79 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:37.680 at the NBA level. 80 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:42.080 Dan, I'm buying it because listen when Jam and I 81 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.039 when we do we do like these segmented like previews 82 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:48.719 for the season where we talk about you know, incoming freshmen, returners, 83 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.639 different position groups and all those things. When we were 84 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.639 doing our freshman preview for this you know, this past year, 85 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.439 I picked aj Debantsa to be one of the best 86 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.800 perimeter defenders in all of college basketball. Now, it didn't 87 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.199 work out that way for him at BYU, and that's 88 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.400 for a number of different reasons. But if you watch 89 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.240 the high school tape, and a lot of NBA teams 90 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:10.759 will tell you that the. 91 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.120 High school film does matter. 92 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.919 It's not just the one season sample size at their school, 93 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.439 you know, their collegiate school that they went to that 94 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.160 dictates the future of these players. 95 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:22.439 High school still matters. 96 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.879 And when you watched when Aj was engaged, or when 97 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.199 you watch him in like USA film or FIABA film 98 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:32.160 or whatever, he would be locked in on the defensive 99 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.199 end and his size. If he is locked in like 100 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.000 he can be, I think that he can generate those 101 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.600 stocks that we did see at Summer League. And I'm 102 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.199 sure we're going to talk about this, you know, with 103 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.600 the team construct and who else Washington has on this roster. 104 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.279 The fact that AJ's not going to have to like 105 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:53.519 shoulder the creative load at Washington like he had to 106 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.240 do at BYU with Richie Saunders getting hurt in the 107 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.000 other cast of characters that he kind of had to 108 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.839 to kind of like during along if you will over 109 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.920 at BYU. I think he's gonna have the latitude to 110 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:06.800 be able to sell out a little bit more on 111 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:08.839 the defensive end, and I think that's going to make 112 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.680 it more impactful on that side of the floor. 113 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.560 You mentioned him not having to be the primary creator, 114 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.480 which I think leads into my next buy or sell 115 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.879 with him, which is buy or sell him being a 116 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:24.000 league average three point shooter out of the gate one 117 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.879 of my biggest questions, and I just I'm a big 118 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.000 believer in if you're a young team or you've a 119 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:33.040 top prospect, there's value in streamlining, simplifying their role by 120 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.480 having maybe someone who can handle the primary workload and 121 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.800 they can do a lot of the secondary stuff. Trey 122 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.839 Young feels like he might veer too far in towards 123 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.879 the ball dominant direction, but I'm just curious how you feel. 124 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.240 I guess about what ag is going to look like 125 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.000 offensively on the Wizards in general, knowing he probably won't 126 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.279 have the ball nearly as much as he did at 127 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:54.680 BYU or even in Summer League, but also what you 128 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.720 make of the three point accuracy overall, because that was 129 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.560 one of the things that probably came away one of 130 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.079 the only things I came away disappointed from based on 131 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:04.720 what I had seen from him in summer league. 132 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.000 There's a lot of different things that you could look 133 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.519 at as to how much we should hold on to 134 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:18.759 one season of college basketball determining, like how effective a 135 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.519 player is going to be as a three point shooter 136 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.959 once they get to the NBA. I actually did during 137 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:27.040 Steph Castle's draft year because he was my number one 138 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.959 prospect when he came out of his draft class. I 139 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.519 actually did a piece on how much the shoot this 140 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.360 three point shooting matter for the development of number one picks. 141 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.879 And I went through and did a lot of data digging. 142 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.439 I made charts and grafts for people who love those 143 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.079 visual representations of how players improve over time. 144 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.800 And dude, so you're saying Kevin Durant did not read it? 145 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.160 What you're saying, Kevin Durant did not read well, maybe 146 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.519 he did. I don't know. You know, I would never 147 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.040 sell out whatever he does on the internet like some 148 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.519 other people have to do over time. You know, Okadi, 149 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.480 your seekers are safe with me. But people just get 150 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.639 better at shooting over time in the NBA, Like these 151 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.800 dudes are like top top tier athletes. And if you look, 152 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.120 I even wrote a piece over at No Silings NBA 153 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.920 dot com about Ajdavans and how far along, how much 154 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:22.439 further ahead he is at his player type, you know. 155 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.160 And I did research with Jimmy Butler, you know, Jalen Brown, 156 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.480 like a whole bunch of these like power wings and 157 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:32.279 forwards that kind of fit that ajdadvanced archetype. And he's 158 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.720 so far ahead of where those dudes were in their 159 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:38.120 draft year Dan that I just kind of hit I'm 160 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.000 hitting the I believe button that he's gonna get better 161 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.720 because we do see touch indicators in the mid range, 162 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.399 the level of difficulty in which he can hit those shots, 163 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.279 free throw percentage, the willingness to take three point shots 164 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.759 actually is a good indicator of like how good these 165 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.079 guys are going to be moving forward as well. So 166 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:57.879 I'm buying that he's going to be a better three 167 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.040 point shooter than whatever those numbers were be YU this year. 168 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.519 Yeah, I think he was at like thirty three percent 169 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.000 or whatever. And like the role difficulty I think is 170 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:09.079 a big one. And he even as like the what 171 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.519 will he land in Washington's pecking order, maybe two or three, 172 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.000 he'll probably still average like eight free throws p thirty 173 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.160 six minutes. That's the other people did not undersell his 174 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.639 ability to get to the pre throw line at will. 175 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.160 He's just like he goes through guys, He goes around guys. 176 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:26.839 It's it's insane. And he's listed at six', eight six' nine. 177 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.800 Sixty nine he could still, be growing. 178 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:32.639 Right he look he looks like he might be. Seven 179 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.919 foot he's one of those guys that came, with whoa 180 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.600 he's way BIGGER that. I thought, he was just way 181 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:40.320 bigger than. He listed when then. He's listed, Excuse, Me. 182 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.000 YEAH and i think that there's something. 183 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.120 To that, you know if you do what, we do 184 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:49.240 eventually you do see clips of players on social media, 185 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:53.080 and STUFF and aj kind of, funnily enough he admitted that, 186 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.159 he flops, you know like it is a is a 187 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.039 necessary part OF. Today's nba if you're going to be 188 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.000 an offensive engine and if you're going to show her a, 189 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.759 scoring load it's a. Learned skill like every even your, 190 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.320 favorite player your favorite best player IN, the nba they. 191 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:09.679 Do it you KNOW what. I mean it's a. 192 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.000 Necessary Evil. 193 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:17.120 Darren peterson speaking, OF people I said aj looked bigger 194 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:19.399 than he. Was Listed, DARREN peterson i came away think 195 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.240 he looks a little smaller than. He's, listed okay. My 196 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:24.240 question he was one of the people and you had also. 197 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.759 Mentioned this we're saying high school. Tape MATTERS when i 198 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.440 was talking about him or thinking, about him a lot 199 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.200 of smart draft people said you need to watch the high, 200 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.279 school tape so very minimum OF it i, could see 201 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.240 like the athletic pop, ON ball i FEEL like i didn't, 202 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:37.919 see it as he could do a lot of things. 203 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:39.879 On ball in, summer league it did like A ton 204 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.679 he was a better PASSER than i was. Expecting to 205 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.399 i'm Still just i'm not SURE where i land on 206 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.879 the on ball athleticism or thrust. With him And so 207 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:49.519 i'm going to ask you to buy or sell the 208 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.080 Idea That darren peterson's on, ball athleticism ability to create 209 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.639 separation or whatever. Is OVERRATED am i jumping the? 210 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.080 Shark here i'm going to respectfully sell To WHERE and 211 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.159 i know where we're going with the next part of. 212 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.240 This TOO so i do think it is kind of 213 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.799 like threading a needle here. TO where i do think 214 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.639 that he does give you good on, ball juice. YOU 215 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.879 know i think that there is a good portion of 216 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:17.240 him that where you can trust him on the ball 217 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:20.200 to blow pass players and stuff. Like that if you 218 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.399 get him on these like, stampede actions, you know running 219 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.759 off of screens away from, the ball you can trust 220 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.159 him to do a bunch of. Different things and watching 221 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.159 him at summer league, you know he did do some 222 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.759 some very good you know on ball creation and. 223 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:35.279 That respect now with that. 224 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.559 Being said i'm not gonna sit here and tell you 225 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.559 that he should be like a lead lead guard or anything. 226 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.320 LIKE that i think it's great that he's going to 227 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.919 a Team Where keyontae george is going to be able 228 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.919 to kind of like assist in. That nature but the 229 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.600 other Aspects Of darren peterson's game are just flat. Out 230 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.200 special he was my number one prospect on my BOARD 231 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.720 because i do think that he does have, creation ability 232 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.279 but he has such an easy shot, as well, you 233 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.759 know like the thing is just butter as he's. Shooting 234 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:06.000 IT and i like his defensive tools. As well and 235 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:10.200 for all the, you know extracurricular conversations that happened with him. 236 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:14.120 This year Dan if if this Year, at kansas which 237 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.759 was not a, great ecosystem he was one of only 238 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.919 two players on the team that shot over thirty five 239 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.600 percent from deep, this year and his coach didn't have 240 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.480 his back like throughout most of. The season to put, 241 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:31.200 it nicely, if shooting if scoring twenty points per game 242 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:34.519 on forty forty eighty is like a bad year, for 243 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:38.039 him then there's a lot of goodness to look Forward To. 244 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.799 WITH peterson i have no notes on the shooting or the. 245 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.559 Floater specifically he's able to get those things. Off quickly 246 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.440 my other buyer sell. WITH him i don't have two. 247 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.440 FOR everybody, i, promise well you KNOW that i take 248 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.360 you to the outline try or sell him being a 249 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.000 better table Setter Than donovan mitchell as his. Career outcome 250 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:57.440 i'm going to. 251 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:59.879 Push that you know you SAID that i can kind 252 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:02.320 of of teeter. Between that i'm gonna cheat a little 253 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.519 bit here as the first Time guess i'm. GONNA push 254 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.759 i think that he can be, as good which for 255 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.440 what he can do as, A score i think. IS 256 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.559 awesome i think you picked an excellent like over under 257 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:17.720 in terms of you of how you want to classify 258 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.879 him as. A playmaker if you would have did like 259 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.960 just a half, step down it's an. Easy Buy But 260 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.600 donovan mitchell is known as a score first guy with 261 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.799 good on, ball, Juice RIGHT but I just i think 262 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:33.039 that he's more wired as a as. A score so 263 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.919 if he is able to read and understand like the 264 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.039 pressure that he can apply and how much attention that's 265 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.679 going to attract from away from the defender of. HIS 266 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:45.799 teammates i think that he can be just as effective 267 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:51.720 on the ball in every in every aspect as as 268 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:54.360 who are we? Talking about who We're Talking? Donovan, mitchell, 269 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.399 thanks yeah sorry. ABOUT that I completely i completely. 270 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.559 Blink there, it's late total. 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For 293 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.240 me and so the worst buy or sell on him 294 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:04.600 is buy or sell him being able to play or 295 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.840 provide more defensive pressure on the perimeter or even be 296 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.000 used as a day facto three than most. People THINK 297 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.399 and i understand that's probably like a vague way of, 298 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.879 putting IT but i think a lot, of people, myself 299 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:19.600 included initially where he's just this one, position guy especially 300 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:21.240 on the, defensive end where he might even be like 301 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:23.919 a half positioned guy. Or something and seeing Him In 302 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.360 summer league Where the grizzlies did do a lot of 303 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.960 pressing and everyone's gonna remember the pick six he Had 304 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.600 On caleb wilson in, THAT game i was, just like 305 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.120 what ELSE am i just gonna learn about this GUY that, 306 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:37.720 i like we're Gonna have my opinion of Completely flipped. 307 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:41.919 I'm gonna and this may not shock some people if 308 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.919 they listen to ANYTHING that i do the, Draft coverage 309 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.200 i'm gonna. SELL it i still am skeptical of the 310 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.639 perimeter defense With. Cam, Booser now i'll tell You that 311 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.840 i'm gonna buy the offensive use that he has on, 312 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.720 the BALL and i feel much more comfortable than what 313 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.919 my projection of him was Coming Into summer league on. 314 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.799 That end but on the, DEFENSIVE end i still think 315 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:09.080 that against the elite wings that he's going to have 316 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.120 to go up against on a, night in night out 317 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.720 basis IN, THE nba i think that he's still going 318 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.440 to have so much room to grow on, that END 319 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.639 where i feel much more comfortable with him being a 320 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.440 four on both ends of. The, floor now can he 321 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:27.039 like show and recover and, you, know scramble recover all these? Different, 322 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.759 Things sure but in terms of like going and guarding 323 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.720 the best players IN, the nba which typically do play that, 324 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.600 Three position i'm still a little bit more skeptical. 325 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:37.159 Of that. 326 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.679 What would you need just around him with To try 327 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.879 campbooser at? The five like who would have to be 328 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.200 his ideal front? Court Partner Does aaron Gordon Healthy aaron 329 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.200 gordon Or og ananobi even do it or does it 330 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:48.559 need to be. 331 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.759 SOMEONE else i think you have to have like both of. 332 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.679 THOSE guys i think that it's GONNA and. 333 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.200 I mean this would love. YOU know i, Never like 334 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.039 i'm never one of the people who are. 335 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:01.639 Like this guy's like wash the bomb. 336 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:04.559 Or WHATEVER but i think that you have to have 337 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:09.279 a team just completely complimented with. SWITCHABLE people, i think, 338 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.000 you know Like A columbary Boils for toronto would be. 339 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.519 The ideal oh sort of a player that you would 340 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.679 want to put next to him to where they. Can 341 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.360 swap and there's the ATHLETICISM that cnb Has that i'm 342 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.879 not Quite sure cam is going to have that like 343 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:25.639 vertical pop to. His game that's going to be required 344 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.919 for him to contest the significantly larger people that he. 345 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:30.279 Has to go. 346 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:32.759 Up against and he looks like he lost weight too For, 347 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.639 summer league which is great for him to do more, 348 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.360 Perimeter stuff but if you're asking him to play full, TIME 349 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:39.120 five i think that he went in the wrong direction 350 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:39.960 in terms of The weight. 351 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:42.879 I'm gonna i've not been giving my own opinion. ON 352 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.200 it I think i might buy the. DEFENSE part i 353 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.360 DON'T think i don't want him to be, a THREE 354 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.279 but i think he might be able to provide more 355 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.360 pressure up. Top consistently summer league. Pilled though they say 356 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:55.279 don't read too much in the, summer league and HERE 357 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:56.080 here i am doing. 358 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.519 Just that you're only supposed to do it if it 359 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.559 supports whatever agenda that you have correct the. 360 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.080 Player's, PERFORMANCE right i. 361 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.839 Need to start coming up with stats and statistical models 362 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.799 that only prove, my AGENDAS because i feel like that's 363 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.200 that's also a BIG key. 364 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.079 I whatever we need to do to make that. Happen 365 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:14.839 again we'll name it. 366 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.000 Boozer too they're all named, after players, now right name. 367 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:19.960 It boozer just got to come up with an acronym. For. 368 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.200 IT yeah i love the ones that are named After, 369 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.319 Like darko, like, yeah like why is there a stat named. 370 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.440 After dark THAT'S how i. Feel like that's how you 371 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:31.000 know it's probably like as accurate as a catchup can 372 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.200 be is if it's named after a forget About the 373 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:36.079 lebron all the. People drink, these stats by, the way, 374 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:39.839 are great but Forget about Lebron or raptor Or there's, Draymond, 375 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.559 right uh There was. Carmelo too at ONE point i 376 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.000 think that fell by, The way but there Was a carmelo. 377 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.799 We need Like a gimmer or At the beat or. 378 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:53.319 Something something, it's like the name is so great that 379 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.039 you know you can. 380 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:55.400 Trust it what. 381 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.720 Would a hoizonia stat be since he's coming back TO, 382 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:01.079 the nba what would? That, MEASURE yeah. 383 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.240 I, don't know maybe on offs from INTERNATIONAL, To, nba, 384 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:06.799 like yeah how that translates the? 385 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.640 WINS losses i think there's. 386 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.119 Something there do you buy or sell the idea That 387 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.480 camp boozer should Be the rookie Of the year favorite 388 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.920 heading into. THIS season i didn't look at the betting 389 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.000 ODDS before i wrote. THIS down i would ASSUME that 390 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:24.400 aj is. The favorite that'd be. My GUESS but i 391 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.440 think my pick right now Would be boozer when trying 392 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.319 to factor in who's going to have the longest runway 393 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.920 and even just the opportunity and usage on the. OFFENSIVE 394 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:33.559 end i. 395 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:35.440 Haven't looked at the. 396 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.559 ODDS either i Would pick darren JUST because i think 397 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:41.119 IN the i think that SO many i think so, 398 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.119 many STATS and i know that you pay attention, to 399 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.799 this like as someone who covers the. League nationally so 400 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:50.839 much of the voting now is based on, WINS that 401 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:54.039 i Think that utah has a really good shot OF 402 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.839 being i know that they've been losing on, purpose forever 403 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.759 but if you look at the roster construction for, YOU 404 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:02.680 to i think that they probably have the best shot 405 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:07.599 of winning out of, You, Know, Washington, chicago Memphis and 406 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.039 utah with everyone else on. THAT team i think that 407 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:12.960 if he looks good on this team and they're like 408 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.799 a ten or a nine seed coming out Of, THE 409 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.079 west i think that He's probably rookie Of the. 410 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.599 Year FAVORITE what i find INTERESTING is i would almost 411 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.240 view it like in, the opposite through the opposite lens, 412 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.960 of saying if He wins rookie Of, the year there's 413 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.319 been no. In between it's not a nine. Or ten 414 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:32.839 it's either they won fifty plus games and he was 415 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.160 a huge part, of it or they just ended up 416 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.839 being bad and so he got way bigger of. An 417 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.400 opportunity because RIGHT now i feel as if he plays 418 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.880 alongside everyone on that team is very complimentary of one 419 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:48.559 another and plug. And play but in theory he is 420 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.200 even if you view him as your secondary Ballhander Like 421 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:54.920 lowry Market And Jaron jackson Junior And keyante george are 422 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:56.599 all ahead of him in the. PECKING water i also 423 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:59.200 am curious as to what we see more because of 424 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.640 how maybe not maybe deep is the wrong Word, for 425 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.880 Utah Like ace bailey is there, as well and they 426 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.359 are they not Gonna Give darren peterson as long. Over 427 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.200 runway early on in the season when looking at, crunch time, 428 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.160 you know you had to ask me who plays more 429 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:15.799 crunch time minutes? This season and is Is It cam 430 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.519 Boozer Or? DARREN peterson i might Still pick boozer even 431 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.000 Though the grizzlies in theory should be worse Than, the 432 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:22.599 jazz but they have a LOT of nba guys on. 433 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:25.200 Their roster he Would be i'm trying to think who 434 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:27.079 The last rookie Of the year that came from a 435 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.359 really good. Team was It's Probably. SCOTTIE barnes i Think 436 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.559 those raptors won did His his rookie of? The year 437 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.200 they won? Forty eight I'm making. 438 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:40.160 I'm, thinking like what did What did brogden look like 439 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:41.359 in the year that he? 440 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:41.960 Won it On? 441 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:42.119 The? 442 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:44.599 Bucks? Too like is that too? 443 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.599 Far back So the raptors did win forty eight During the, 444 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.839 brogden Year the bucks won. Forty, two Sorry the bucks 445 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.079 won forty two During the. Brockden Year the raptors won 446 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:57.720 forty eight During The staddy. Barnes YEAR so i don't 447 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:58.200 think THAT. 448 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.279 It's i don't think it's out of the Question that 449 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:02.440 utah could win. That too and if you talk about like. 450 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:06.319 What, He Brings jaren laurie like so much of that 451 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.839 front court kind of. Feels duplicative it's almost like they 452 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.079 Need what darren can bring to the table and, He 453 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:14.880 had like to, your point they're so complimentary of each 454 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.480 other where you just need a guy who can come 455 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:17.799 in and. 456 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:18.920 Eat twenty points on. 457 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.680 High EFFICIENCY and i think That's what darren can, do 458 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:25.759 there and if It helps utah go from being laughing 459 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:28.200 stock of the league the past couple of seasons and 460 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:31.079 we trust and we actually kind of secretly like the coach, 461 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.440 there too even though he hasn't been given license to. 462 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:34.400 Win yet is it even? 463 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.480 A secret i think everybody, LIKE well i thought he 464 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.680 would get fired at one point because they would win 465 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:40.920 too many games, under him. 466 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.440 Winning too, Many GAMES but i think they have like 467 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.759 the they're kind of like the wolves and sheeps closing if. 468 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.440 You WILL and i just think that winning Is if 469 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.759 utah can go back to their winning ways and this 470 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.119 is like such a historically winning franchise that if they 471 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.440 can go back to That and darren is putting up, 472 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:01.839 you know primaries scoring numbers on the team that has 473 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:03.920 like A defensive player Of the year candidate To most 474 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.519 improved Candidate, and kyante they got floor spacing that's going 475 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:08.759 to open up the driving lanes. 476 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.200 For, HIM like i just think that. 477 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:13.359 The path for him, is easier Where, like boozer sure 478 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.799 like he could go on that team and and put, 479 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.039 Up NUMBERS but i think that those two to me 480 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.079 are like the one and. THE two i don't Know 481 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.279 how AJ's gonna look with Eighty and trey being on 482 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:28.279 the team and like how much he's going to be allowed, 483 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:29.640 to do and then. 484 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.279 They might NOT have nba Spacing and washington, quite frankly 485 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:33.200 depending on the lineups. 486 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.599 They're running and speaking OF no, NBA spacing, i Mean, 487 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.559 hello chicago you know, they slap, They should they, Sure 488 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.200 SLAP but i. 489 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.200 Don't Know josh getty is like one of their two. 490 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.359 Best shooters that's never really a great spot to. 491 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:45.680 Be in what? 492 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.559 A segue you're a, professional podcaster h could you seguate 493 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:52.279 us To The Bulls. CALEB wilson i have to do. 494 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.799 This one this is the low, hanging fruit but historically 495 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:01.480 three point volume, is among if not the Absolute stickiest 496 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.039 summer league stat as they like to. Call, it so 497 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:08.359 are you buying or selling thirty one attempts During? Summer 498 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.319 league what do you play like just one hundred and 499 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.039 Whatever minute it wasn't even like one hundred and twenty 500 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:14.279 minutes or whatever it ended. Up being do you buy 501 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.680 or sell the three point Volume From. 502 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.039 Caleb wilson i'm, buying. It Dude and i've been A 503 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:24.519 Faithful caleb wilson follower all. Season long, you know when 504 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:28.240 people were commenting on his defense, being laughable or when 505 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.599 people were talking about well he, doesn't shoot or the 506 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.839 injuries or whatever the case. Might be i'm looking at 507 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:39.519 a GUY who i compare to as like This Generation 508 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:42.880 zamari stodomer and with the potential to be a better 509 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.480 defender because of the length that, he has the timing that. 510 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:47.519 He has, you know. 511 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:48.000 He's got the. 512 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.440 Right mindset the, thing that more so than Anything about 513 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.640 CALEB that i buy moving forward is just him as 514 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.599 a person and the work ethic that he's shown over 515 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:02.559 the past several, seasons motivated, you know has stuff staved 516 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:05.279 on his background to motivate him, before games like this 517 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:06.960 Is Some michael Jordan Stuff chicago. 518 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.960 BULLS fans I. 519 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.359 Just i'm buying whatever this kid wants. To do i'm 520 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.039 not going to be the one to tell. Him no 521 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.640 and the fact that he went out there and attempted 522 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.200 and made more Threes In summer league than he did 523 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.279 in AN entire, unc season which to, be fair that 524 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.440 team was. Pretty limited they did make a coaching change 525 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.240 after he left and, was injured and it was pretty 526 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.400 apparent that he was the gum and paper clips holding that. 527 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:38.279 Team together i'm not selling him short. Of anything the 528 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.640 touch indicators, were there like he was hitting these like 529 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.359 reclining mid range fadeaway shots over multiple defenders. In college, 530 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.559 you know he's solid free. Throw shooter even the shots 531 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.720 that he, did take like the motion didn't. Look busted 532 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.799 he just had to do so much around the RIM 533 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.440 for unc comparatively to the other prospects that were on, 534 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.319 that roster and he showed good playmaking, touch too, you 535 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.039 know SO like i buy him being able to he 536 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.720 could be as good as he wants. To Be like 537 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:06.559 i'll put it to you, Like, That, dan like if 538 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.440 he wants to be a three, point shooter he's going 539 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.039 to be a three. Point shooter if he's going to 540 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.880 be a, point forward he he he'll. Do it, You 541 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.119 Know i'm I'm but i'm buying the shot to answer the, 542 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:16.400 Question here so. 543 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.279 You're buying the next. One too the idea of just 544 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:20.720 his on. Ball OFFENSE and i mean what you said 545 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.000 point foward is a great descriptor rather than Just like 546 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:24.640 i'm not even talking about just like the catch and 547 00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.359 fades on. The block i'm talking about like being able 548 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.440 to they set a ball screen at the top and 549 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.000 you want him to attack. That way you buy the 550 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.079 idea that he could do that. AS well. 551 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.839 I do i mean we saw that in college. Even too, 552 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.319 you know we saw it in. High school when he grabs, 553 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.119 a rebound he wants to be the one to push. 554 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.519 The brake, you know, he's long, he's athletic he covers 555 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.119 a lot. Of ground he's a heads up dribbler for his, 556 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:50.960 position too which speaks to how advance he is at. 557 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.079 His age we saw That At summer, league too where 558 00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.519 he was so perimeter ORIENTED that i, was, Like, hey 559 00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:58.759 caleb don't forget what got? 560 00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:58.839 You? 561 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:03.039 Here dude like you fantastic finisher around. The BASKET but 562 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.839 i also understand that he's trying to modernize his game 563 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:07.200 and show what he can do away from. 564 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.319 THE ball i think that he can, do that. 565 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:13.799 But it's it's all gonna be contextual On what chicago 566 00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:16.200 does with the spacing. Around him you know You Hopefully 567 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.440 matas rose is a three. Point shooter we just got 568 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.799 done Talking about giddy might be the best three point 569 00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.519 shooter on. The team he's gonna need some help to get. 570 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:27.160 It done but, YOU know i think if altering s, 571 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.200 break right he could be a really good on ball 572 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.160 creator IN the nba. 573 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:32.119 As, WELL yeah. 574 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:35.720 I did i was impressed with the handle On The 575 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.720 summer league FILM that i saw. From him i'm Looking 576 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.880 at chicago's roster right now because you said something About 577 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.720 like giddy and. The shooting if we wanted to Build 578 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.480 A caleb wilson plus, SHOOTING lineup i don't even think 579 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:51.359 we could Because There's norman Powell And josh giddy and 580 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:52.319 you would HAVE. 581 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.400 To i was gonna get, shots, UP right i. 582 00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.559 Guess so like they Do Have jalen Smith and Zach, 583 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.480 collins man that'd. BE rough I Like. Leonard miller it's 584 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:02.880 not a lot of shooting on, this Team so i'm 585 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.839 curious to see What his and Also with Giddy and 586 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.000 powell there and Even Just trey Jones and Rob dylling 587 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.319 hamiston on, this team curious to See What caleb wilson's 588 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.359 offensive role ends up. Being in there's no one who 589 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.680 should usurp him in the, pecking order but just by 590 00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:18.960 virtue of the talent that's, Around him i'm curious to 591 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.279 see how they deploy him in. 592 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.799 Year, One YEAH and i think that's a perfect way 593 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.599 to look at. It TOO and i think so we 594 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.119 get so wrapped up about like do it NOW that 595 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:31.880 i don't know how many people are gonna watch Her 596 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.920 One kleb wilson and, Just, think kad this is going 597 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.599 to be all that we can ever expect, of him 598 00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:39.640 because he's clearly shown from college to summer league, at 599 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.799 least that there's so much more to be unearthed within. 600 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.519 His game he's just going to have to be in 601 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.400 a good system that allows him to be able to. 602 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.880 DO it i would not have had him hitting even 603 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.680 if it was even if that was the only game 604 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.400 where play score thirty FIVE points i never would have 605 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.160 had him hitting these off the dribble threes would have 606 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.480 not been on My Summer league. Bengal, card no not. 607 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.680 AT all i mean in that set of key debut 608 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:01.880 record by, the way that thirty. 609 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.960 Five Points Just blake griffin used to, have, it right yep. 610 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.720 Mm, hmm yeah which good company to. 611 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.000 Be in that's not bad HE turned I Think blake 612 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:12.359 griffin turned out. All, right yeah he. 613 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.599 Was, fine yeah he eventually turned into a, Shooter too. 614 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.880 THAT'S right i think my favorite Version Of blake griffin 615 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.559 was like the one healthy season he Had in detroit. 616 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:20.960 Because he wasn't. 617 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:26.200 Doing, anything, yeah, Yep, absolutely okay no. 618 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.279 Pressure here this Is a this is One of dan's 619 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.279 draft darlings in so far as you could be a 620 00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.319 darling when you're in the conversation for a top, Seven 621 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:39.559 pick Mike Kel. Brown jr will be the best guard 622 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.559 prospect of that four guard glutt Looking At, Keaton WOGGLER. 623 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.559 Darius A, Cuff Junior, Kingston flemings buy? Or sell. 624 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.039 This is tricky and anyone who covered the draft or 625 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.960 paid attention to the draft even late into the cycle 626 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.480 knows that this, draft class yes the top four like 627 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.839 made a bu bunch, of headlines but the identity of 628 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.920 this draft class was defined by the freshman guards who 629 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.440 provided so much of this class's depth, This year so 630 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.960 it ultimately became super tribalistic in the terms, Of like 631 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.240 i'm a part Of Tribe mikel Brown or darius Acufb 632 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.000 Junior brandon BURRY'S and i don't believe anything that these 633 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.279 other guard tribes. Are saying it's really DIFFICULT because i 634 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.720 Really Like Mikel. BROWN jr i Said that my comp 635 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.599 for him all season long was This is LaMelo ball with. 636 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.880 Defensive UPSIDE and i mean it's just on. 637 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.079 The COURT that's i interrupt JUST because i did not 638 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.440 hear you. SAY that i Called him lamello ball with 639 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.559 a defensive conscience when we were, doing UH when i 640 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.119 did my draft pre draft Pod With. Jonathan wasserman so 641 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:49.559 just that to interrupt and throw that. 642 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.160 In there how serendipitous again that we are doing a 643 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:54.680 podcast are draft? 644 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.680 In engage see you know, you're proven. 645 00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.240 YOU'RE pasi i can come in and say things like 646 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:01.680 This where i'm like these are like you should not 647 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:03.720 as someone who is so deep into the draft like. 648 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.920 These are i'm so detached from covering. These guys that's 649 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.839 easy for me to throw out borderline. Inflammatory THINGS so. 650 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.039 I gotta step up. MY game i Gotta step. 651 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.279 You're doing this. Smart approach i'm the one who like 652 00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.200 sees these Guys In summer league and does filmwork before 653 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.400 the draft, Was Like Michil, BROWN junior i already know 654 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.119 he's gonna be the best of these. Four guards, I've decided, OH. 655 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.000 Yeah, I mean i'm not ruling. It out like there 656 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:28.680 are a lot of dudes That know silings who have 657 00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.039 HIM as, pg one and we're gonna talk about other 658 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:35.799 guards too throughout, this episode where like it's not gonna 659 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.000 surprise me if, he is but he's not my favorite to, 660 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.400 do IT so i don't know if that qualifies as, 661 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.799 a push but if you have him as your favorite 662 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.000 guard or the, top, Pick like i'm not gonna rule. 663 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.839 It out we saw It At summer, league too how 664 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.839 creative this. Guy is and he's SOMEONE who i CALLED 665 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.599 and i compared Him To kingston FLEMINGS and i kind 666 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.599 of Low balled flemings early on in the year to 667 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.440 WHERE as i looked At Mi keil BROWN and, i 668 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.359 said if you just look, at him move on. The 669 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.000 court he's like a joystick player out there on, the 670 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.279 COURT where i Called like flemings a, dpad player, you 671 00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:12.240 know for you gamers. Out there so mikel is just, 672 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:16.160 SO flexible bindi creative sees the floor like maps out 673 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.480 where everyone is going to be before he. 674 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:19.519 Hits these drives and. 675 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.680 He has he is not shy at, all about, you 676 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.200 know getting the flashiest pass. Off possible but he connects on. 677 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:31.359 Him too, he's athletic, he's bouncy he plays. Good defensively 678 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.480 this kid still might even be, Growing Too, DAN like 679 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.799 i think this guy is so skinny because he's constantly 680 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.559 he's been on a perennial growth spurt over the past like. 681 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.359 FOUR seasons i don't know if he's. Even done so. 682 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.920 Six going on, six seven six eight Is basically. 683 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.839 I'm, not lying like he could Be What sean livingston 684 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:51.559 was supposed. 685 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:52.720 To be, you know. 686 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.240 You Mentioned, kingston FLEMINGS who i was not a. FAN 687 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.680 of i would say, AFTER not i want to say 688 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.559 not a. FAN of I wish i want to be 689 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.359 wrong about Anyone who i'm not high on for. The 690 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.680 draft That's what i'll. ROOT for i came away From 691 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.400 something league a little bit more impressed, with him and 692 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.839 it had almost nothing to do with, his offense like 693 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:14.880 some of the passing was. Really THERE but i have 694 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.359 questions about his finishing on. THE rim a lot of 695 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.240 people have talked about his on ball juice and like it's, 696 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.000 clearly THERE but i was expecting MORE when i was 697 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.799 Seeing The derrick Rose And john, Morant COMPARISONS so i 698 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.480 have questions about. The finishing the defense might actually. Be, 699 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.759 insane though where are you At With? Kingston flemings and 700 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.400 do you buy or sell the idea that he will 701 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.079 become like a caps locked dangerous finisher IN. THE Nba 702 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:44.880 m i'm. 703 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.160 Gonna sell, the FINISHER but i don't think that that's 704 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:49.480 going to limit how good he, can be if that. 705 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.279 Makes SENSE like i think he's so good at the 706 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.920 everything else aspect of being a guard IN the nba 707 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.160 that even if he is just, like average then you're 708 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.279 still have a very. Dangerous player like how good of 709 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.519 a Finisher Is, Alex caruso like how good of a 710 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.880 Finisher Is? Cassan wallace, you know how good of a 711 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.160 finisher are those types of guards and doesn't matter compared 712 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.720 to like what they provide your team and SOMETHING that 713 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.880 i kind of had a Revelation With kingston flemings, Myself 714 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.240 too dan to where like all, season long, YOU know 715 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.880 i spoke about how tribalistic we got with the guards all, 716 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.559 season long like covering, the Draft and, i'm LIKE do 717 00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:27.400 i want. 718 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.759 This guy to be my on? 719 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.559 Ball Creator like i'm looking at him Compared to mike 720 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:35.720 the Aforementioned, Mikeel Brown, Darius Akuff, Keeping Wogger brandon burry's 721 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.279 like he's so much of his identity was wrapped up 722 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.880 in his two way ability That if i'm asking him 723 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.519 to be my sole source, of creation is he going 724 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.920 to be able to expend all that energy that makes 725 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.160 him so special on the. Defensive, end well then he 726 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.000 gets Drafted to atlanta AND then i do, you know 727 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.519 one of my favorite Exercises that i've ever done is 728 00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:01.160 you know my uh post draft like the environment adjusted 729 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.599 mont graft IS what i caught. 730 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.559 It incredible but that's an. Incredible concept by, THE way 731 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.039 i didn't mean to interrupt. YOU there i think that 732 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.400 that's you were mentioning it when we Did The Lockdown 733 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:12.880 nick show the, other week and that's that's just a 734 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.639 FANTASTIC because i think we, forget, so like even in 735 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.320 this in the Context Of summer, league rosters if you're 736 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.079 looking at Someone Like, kingston flemings who's responsible for driving, 737 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.480 the offense playing with guys he's not, familiar with most 738 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.000 of most of whom are not going to MAKE an. 739 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.239 Nba roster on the, flip side when we're talking, about 740 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.039 bigs which we, eventually will, it's well they're prodeed on 741 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.199 getting the ball out of the times and they're on 742 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.159 rosters that aren't geared towards, doing that like with the. 743 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.719 Most talentable so that's just that's a home run concept. 744 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.800 BY you, i plauded. NOT not I swear i'm not 745 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.559 even blowing smoke just because you're on. THE show i 746 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.079 thought when you, SAID it i was, just like that's. Fucking, COOL. 747 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.360 Well I appreciate i, appreciate THAT and. 748 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.199 I don't i'm not gonna sit here and Pretend like 749 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:54.719 i'm the FIRST one i ever thought. Of IT but 750 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.559 i went through and did, the exercise AND once i 751 00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.760 found Out That kingston flemings was gonna be, on it 752 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.079 and they're one of the few TEAMS and I think 753 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.639 toronto operates a lot like. This, too dan it's like 754 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.800 the team is the. Point guard so he's going on 755 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.400 a team where You, know DANIELS gnaw, Cj McCollum. JALEN 756 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.400 johnson i think combined they all average close to like 757 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.800 twenty assist, a game just like as. A collective so 758 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.480 if he's going to a team where the team is 759 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.360 the point guard and he can sell out on the 760 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.719 defensive end and he can be a nuisance in transition 761 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.800 and he can still alleviate some of that creation load 762 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.320 off of them, as well then he ended up being 763 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.719 fifth on my board JUST because i think that he 764 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.360 gets to be all the best parts of himself and 765 00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.400 he's so well insulated that it's going to allow him 766 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.400 to develop in those other areas. 767 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:47.320 Of concern, So. 768 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.159 Yeah i'm in terms of like the, FINISHING stuff i, 769 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.719 don't KNOW but i don't think that it's gonna matter 770 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:55.519 as much based on where. 771 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:56.480 He landed. 772 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.440 So you don't think it like when it to his 773 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.079 just shot profile, in general where we know he's mid. 774 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.440 Range heavy but do you do you view him after 775 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.119 having watched him for so much then looking at him 776 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.360 in the context of this team as someone wh will 777 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.440 at least develop into a multi level score just because 778 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.920 even the three point volume in school and in summer league, 779 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.320 was higher but it wasn't. Astronomically high he's not known, 780 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.159 as that even though the percentages at school. 781 00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.719 WERE fine i think that he has every, opportunity to, 782 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.599 you Know on Yuko kong wu grews a three point 783 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.559 shooter this, Season too so when you have a four, 784 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.280 spacing five that changes the geometry on the court. So 785 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.840 much they BROUGHT. Back, cj McCollum who's a reliable. Knockdown 786 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.920 shooter naw really took off. This Year Nikhil alexander walker 787 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:41.519 took off. 788 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:42.079 On this team. 789 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.840 This Year dyson daniels is going to hold you back a. 790 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.679 Little Bit jalen johnson isn't the best three, point SHOOTER 791 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.440 but i think there is enough three point shooting on 792 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.519 this team that's gonna give him every opportunity that he 793 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.039 wants to improve as a finisher around. The RIM so, 794 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.400 I mean I guess I'm just IT'S like i would 795 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:04.719 sell IT if i like water gun to, MY head 796 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.039 i would. Sell IT but i don't feel great, about it, 797 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.280 you KNOW like i don't have like a strong, either 798 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.039 way it's probably a clean push. For Me. 799 00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.880 Darius acuff junior buy or sell him having the most 800 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.320 frustrating shot selection among rookies. Next year that's my way, 801 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.639 of SAYING as i put this in, THE notes i 802 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.159 don't have any idea what to think of HIM when 803 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.679 i watch him the aesthetics of. HIS game i want to, 804 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.440 love HIM but i come away thinking he's going to get. 805 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.079 SOMEONE fired i feel like he could also get someone 806 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.639 like hired or, to extension so there he feels like 807 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.079 a real boom or. BUST guy i just haven't seen 808 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.280 nearly as much of him as you And some i'm 809 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.800 curious where you land on The Whole darius acuff. Junior experience. 810 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.480 I'm conflicted with this one, because listen, you know people 811 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.679 probably can hear my accent and probably Guess that, i'm 812 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.920 from like Somewhere, around ARKANSAS which i am So big. 813 00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.000 Acuff supporter EVEN though i didn't really like him that much. 814 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.079 COMING in i had him ranked in the twenties in 815 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.400 my pre board coming into, THE cycle I just. 816 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:07.000 I didn't like. 817 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.559 The shots, IT'S funny i didn't like the shot selection 818 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.840 that he showed in, high school but then he Comes 819 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.920 to arkansas and he's a three. Level scorer and he's 820 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.519 also one of the best playmakers in this entire draft, 821 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.719 class too which was the biggest CONCERN that, i had, 822 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.760 was like what is this guy going too at look 823 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.840 like as a facilitator? For Others But man sacramento really 824 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.440 does a great job of making your most bold opinions 825 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.599 of a player a little bit more watered down than 826 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.039 you would like them, to be you KNOW what. I 827 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.000 MEAN LIKE i i don't know if they could have 828 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.280 drafted ANYBODY and i would have felt, great about, you 829 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.199 know like that the highest end upside potential of being 830 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.639 actualized on. That team to answer the question is as 831 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.000 painful as it is for me, To say i'm probably 832 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.239 buying that the shot selection is going to be not 833 00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.880 for the faint, of heart just because he's going to 834 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:03.360 be asked to do so much creation on this. Team 835 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.079 Too Like, MEET clifford i think his stock took a 836 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.119 little bit of, a hit as big of a Hit 837 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.519 As summer league can give you in, terms, of like, 838 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.039 you know ball handling duties. AND responsibilities i did not 839 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.519 LIKE what i saw From maxim reino like as a 840 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.159 facilitator from the big man Position At summer league. This 841 00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.960 YEAR either i just think there's gonna be so much 842 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.800 put on his shoulders and he's gonna be asked to 843 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.280 put up a lot of grenades and a lot of 844 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.320 bill out possessions and stuff like that for this team 845 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.679 that it's not going to. Be Pretty so i'm probably 846 00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.599 buying the frustration that's gonna come along with the shot 847 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:38.079 Chart WITH. 848 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:39.039 Darius a cuff. 849 00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.639 Junior, here yeah it'd be interesting if he had been 850 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.400 drafted by someone like one of these. Other teams had 851 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.599 had it Been, the clippers had it Been, the nets 852 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.519 had it Been. The hawks i'm curious If the king 853 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:53.519 stigma is coloring my impressions of his summer league and him. 854 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.320 In general that's a. Fascinating question The, Final well I'm 855 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.480 A braden, burry's guy so technically in the Fine But 856 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.119 keaton wabla like SOMEONE who i want to be the 857 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.239 best guard of anyone we're. Talking ABOUT but i wanted 858 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.719 to know buy or sell his ability to consistently puncture 859 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.000 the paint AT the nba LEVEL because i came Away 860 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.599 From summer league and feel like he was just getting 861 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.400 bumped off of course a ton and it was more 862 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.320 than just to me. At, least oh he needs to 863 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.039 and will get stronger and this will. 864 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:31.559 Resolve itself i'm selling the paint Puncturing For keaton wogler and. 865 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.679 So much of his success, last year which. 866 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.039 Was fantastic by, The way we're talking about a guy 867 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.800 who was ranked outside like the top one fifty among 868 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.519 a lot of reputable grassroots. Scouting services so this wasn't 869 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.239 like a campaign to keep him out or anything. Like 870 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.920 that just so many people either didn't see enough of 871 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.639 him or what they, did see he didn't blow, him 872 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.159 away even though we're talking About Like gatorade player Of 873 00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:58.280 the year coming out of the State, of kansas And 874 00:40:58.360 --> 00:40:59.920 somehow kansas didn't, recruit him by. 875 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.559 The, way Interesting But. 876 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:04.960 Keaton wogler, his season he played with a lot of 877 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.880 Upperclassmen at illinois who made his life easier and even 878 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.239 played Next To, colin boswell who's a, very strong powerfully 879 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:16.199 built fire hydrant of a, point guard and just a 880 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:20.679 lot of dudes with A Professional european european basketball experience 881 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.239 that he was put in a system to Where Coach 882 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.679 brad underwood does a great job of putting his guards 883 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.639 in the. Right position but he's to, your point he's 884 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.360 a little thin now he does clear this magical number 885 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.199 of one hundred and eighty pounds that he weighed in 886 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.679 at the combine to where you can for, WHATEVER reason 887 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:40.880 i don't know the science. Behind it it might be 888 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.599 a worthwhile thing to, Look, Into dan but for, whatever 889 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.519 reason if you hit one hundred and eighty pounds like 890 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.679 your your chances of survival IN the nba. Looked great 891 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.960 like one eighty was exactly What Shake gilgis alexander weighed 892 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.559 in AT his. Nba combine if he was one hundred 893 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.559 and seventy, nine pounds, who knows if we're talking about, A. 894 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.079 Champion i. 895 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.280 Don't Know but keaton, cleared it so he has a 896 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.800 good shot of being as good as he could possibly 897 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:07.079 be IN. 898 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.280 THE nba. 899 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.960 I didn't i still did, worry about like his contacted 900 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:13.039 version Playing. 901 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.400 At illinois but the thing. 902 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.400 That kept me In On keaton wogler as opposed to 903 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.960 completely selling out on the like his unwillingness to get 904 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:26.360 into the paint or dunk or Anything at illinois was 905 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.000 the fact that he is a lights out three. Point 906 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.679 shooter and we did see That At summer League right 907 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.840 like there was almost like the safety blanket, of, like 908 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.840 hey if, everything hits we might have the Next Shake 909 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.159 gilgus alexander Here With. Keith walker but worst, case scenario 910 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.280 we might also have the best three point shooter within 911 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.280 this draft at good size and could play both. 912 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:45.639 Guard, Positions Right so. 913 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.800 I'm selling the. Paint puncturing but he still showed that 914 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.360 he is every bit as dangerous from outside the three 915 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:53.239 point line as he was. 916 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.280 In, college yeah he remains my second favorite of. THE 917 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.920 four i don't know when we've band it, TO five 918 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.519 i don't know if he's still the second Favorite Because. 919 00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:07.119 BRAIDEN burry's i was intrigued by him going into, the 920 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.599 draft and then one of my questions was, just, like 921 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.840 well what would he look like if you were doing more? 922 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.280 On ballwork and so now we're on the opposite end 923 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.760 of the spectrum HERE where i need to ask you 924 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.159 to buy or sell his ability to provide on, ballroom 925 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.480 pressure which he did in spades During The. 926 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.960 Zummer league you could ask buy Or Sell braiden Burry's and. 927 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.440 I'm just gonna, say bye no matter what the rest. 928 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.599 Of it no matter what the rest of that, comment 929 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.000 is as long as, it's like do you believe that 930 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.760 he can? Do something the answer to that question is 931 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.760 always going to. Be yes actually, had him so in 932 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.039 terms of THE guards I Had, MIKE keel I HAD. 933 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:50.280 Darius A, CUFF. Junior, Mikel Brown braiden Burry's Than, keith, WOGGLER. 934 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.280 Right i wanted To put. 935 00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.000 Braiden higher but to, your point we just didn't see 936 00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.800 him do so much on. The Ball But braiden burry's 937 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.039 is gonna serve as like a like a tent pole 938 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.320 philosophy shift for me moving forward in terms, OF like 939 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.559 i don't care if we didn't see him do as 940 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:07.960 much on. 941 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.000 The BALL do i buy? 942 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.159 The? Physicality YES do i buy? 943 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:11.280 The? 944 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:12.880 Touch YES do i buy? 945 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.719 The? Defense yes is this? Dude does does he have 946 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:17.960 a screw loose in the best? 947 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:18.199 Way? 948 00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:22.280 Possible absolutely. You KNOW and i started doing like some 949 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.199 podcasts like as the draft was, Ramping up dan for 950 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.360 Like some arizona based, you know coverages for like the, 951 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.039 you Know the wildcasts Or The phoenix suns, or whatever 952 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.159 and so many people kept bringing up the story about 953 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:40.079 How coach Lloyd at arizona told him after a, few, games, 954 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.639 like dude what's? Going on you're Like mister, California. 955 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.119 Here you're one of the best scorers in. The class what's? 956 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.159 Going on he, Was like i'm Worried that i'm gonna 957 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.960 step on the toes of this like Very. Senior layden 958 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.840 there's like a great mix of Like, senior leyden, you 959 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.360 know contributors on this team returners with also a couple 960 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.280 of really high end freshman recruits. As well he, WAS 961 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.320 like i don't want to step on Toes And coach 962 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.639 floyd essentially, told him, you know riverdance on him if 963 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.039 they want to get out of, the way get out of. 964 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:08.679 The way and. 965 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.840 He, Did man and like so many people probably forgot 966 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:14.519 that he led the team, in scoring and he did 967 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.360 so by being differential to. Everybody else that when we 968 00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.280 saw him in summer League in milwaukee, was, like dude 969 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:25.719 cook he. Did that and the strength that we knew 970 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.559 coming into the Draft That brandon burry's had watch just 971 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.639 fresh off of watching playoff basketball to where you have 972 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.480 to Have what I'm because i'm not a, CREATIVE person 973 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.920 i call it, Shoulder game like can you create separation 974 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.280 by just use of your shoulders while you're driving to. 975 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:46.280 The basket that's such an invaluable skill or physical trait. 976 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.960 To have dan as, you know like watching the finals 977 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.039 that if you can, do that you have a leg 978 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.039 up on pretty much. EVERYBODY else i should have ranked 979 00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.159 him as high as my heart, wanted to but my 980 00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.800 heart's deceived. Me before so it's like this concept. PUSH 981 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.599 pool i wanted to have him as my, top Guard but, 982 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.519 I'M like i don't know if you can create to 983 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.800 the Level of Darius or Mike kel but he did 984 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.920 everything else that just as good or a higher level 985 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.599 in the everything else aspect of basketball compared to those 986 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.599 two to where, It's, LIKE god I wish i would 987 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:16.159 have just went with my. 988 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.280 Heart here so you're on the clock at number five 989 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.280 where they're redoing the draft, right now we're are even 990 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.679 we're a month removed. From it are You Taking braiden 991 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:26.760 burry's at? Number? Five? 992 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.920 Yes absolutely Like the clippers that if They keep kawi, 993 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.360 Like Whatever like i'm could you imagine like if They, 994 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.159 keep kawhi they Bring In braiden berry's and anyone else 995 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:42.639 they have on, This roster Like. 996 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.639 He kawi is like a that's a legit, like, one. Two, 997 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.400 three yeah. 998 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.039 He's an, Amplifier dude like he does everything else like 999 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.360 he he just makes people around him better because he is, 1000 00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.840 so good, you know like we saw That. At arizona 1001 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.760 He Made brandon burry or, excuse, me uh He Made 1002 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.960 jaden bradley a better facilitator because he was on. That 1003 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:11.559 team he took pressure off Of. Co opete He made Ivan, 1004 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:14.039 karl chenkov who could not shoot to save his life, 1005 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.199 this year playable from the perimeter because of how much 1006 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.599 gravity he had as a three. 1007 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:19.639 Point shooter, you. 1008 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.880 Know like he, play made he play make for, others 1009 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.760 too even though he was just the. Leading scorer there 1010 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.159 was just so many good things about him this year 1011 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.480 that in a redraft outside the, top four the top 1012 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.840 Guy that i'm going, right NOW and i know he 1013 00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:37.360 hasn't seen A real nba minute, or whatever but, God 1014 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.559 BLESS like i was Skeptical, of milwaukee and He's almost 1015 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.079 milwaukee proof even though they just moved off of. Y honest, 1016 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.440 you know like there's so much reasons to. Be, optimistic 1017 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.679 yeah like Him And ryan, rawlins, together dude that's gonna 1018 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:49.920 be so. 1019 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.159 Much fun like they're gonna be a. 1020 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.760 G League pass they're gonna be a League past darling 1021 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:55.320 with the backcourt that. 1022 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.519 They, have, yeah especially there's like might even be the 1023 00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:59.719 car crash theory of Like having nata meant there and 1024 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.199 what is he gonna do on a game to? Game basis, 1025 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:09.960 So UH Jaxell, MVP lindebergh i am trying not to 1026 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:13.119 get too excited about him because He hadn't he really 1027 00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.039 did have an excellent summer league where he just. DID 1028 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.280 everything i had questions about what he would able to 1029 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.280 be able to do defensively at, this LEVEL and i 1030 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.519 still going back and watching some of the summer, league 1031 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.039 stuff especially Against, the lakers it kind of felt like 1032 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:27.920 some of the blocks that, he had it just felt 1033 00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.079 like teams were giving them, to him just like the 1034 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.239 releases were slow where they were so low was just 1035 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.480 but he WAS so i thought he was really. Good 1036 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.960 defensively do you buy or sell the idea that he 1037 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.639 can consistently defend twos threes even do some point of. 1038 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.960 Attack work and the Only reason i'm actually asking this 1039 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.599 IS because i think that it's his clearest path to 1040 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.119 immediate playing Time In. Golden state you look at the 1041 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.800 injuries they're dealing With To jimmy Butler And. Moses moody 1042 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.719 i'm assuming they Get deanthy. Melton back now that The 1043 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.199 whole lebron stuff is settled and he's their instant best 1044 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.000 point of like. Perimeter defender but, after THAT it's, I 1045 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.840 know draymond Is, still draymond but he's not like a. 1046 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:11.480 Lockdown perimeter do they need like a combo? Forward Defender 1047 00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.360 And jaxa lundenberg right now is the, YOU know i 1048 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.280 don't mean to Disparage Like gui santos, or anybody but 1049 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.239 he feels like just their. Only, option yeah. 1050 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.679 They do we Know that draymond's even coming Back To golden, 1051 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:25.400 state too by, The. 1052 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.119 Way like you think he'll be the one to Go, 1053 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.159 to cleveland. 1054 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.639 He might be the one To follow Lebron. To philly, 1055 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.519 who knows, you know to give You some? Joel insurance 1056 00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.320 could You imagine minnesota needs? 1057 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.280 A four do you think Him And rudy gobert would 1058 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.039 be willing to? Play together or IS that i. 1059 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.840 Don't KNOW that's i would pay to WATCH reality tv 1060 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.400 show Him and LaMelo and ant together like just. 1061 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.480 Hanging out could you imagine? Those, THREE no. 1062 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:50.880 I couldn't and especially you throw Like The rudy gobert 1063 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.199 wild guard, INTO there. I wouldn't i wouldn't be able to. 1064 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.800 Picture it it would Be, like seinfeld but reverse right 1065 00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.239 to where like those three would Be, Like elane George. 1066 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.679 And jerry and then here it comes in like a straight, 1067 00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.000 laced creamer, just, like hey that's what's, going on, You 1068 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:08.760 know and they're like hanging from the ceiling fan, or 1069 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.559 whatever you KNOW what, I mean like they're just doing. 1070 00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:11.760 Crazy stuff who do. 1071 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.960 You think so let's Throw The rudy Gobert like draymond's 1072 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.719 history equation out. Of it who do you think would 1073 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.320 have been able to handle the dina or would fit 1074 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.039 better into the locker Room dynamic Lebron or draymond and 1075 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.880 Just hype. MINNESOTA hypothetically i feel Like, it's lebron even though. 1076 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.440 He's, older yeah it's Gotta. BE lebron I mean i 1077 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.599 think that he could fit in pretty much any locker, 1078 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.079 room too by, the WAY but i just feel like 1079 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.599 they would be hanging on his, coat tail just like 1080 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.239 please tell us like all the stuff that, you know 1081 00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.079 Except maybe aunt might challenge him a, little bit and 1082 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:43.639 it sounds like. 1083 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.360 He did there was a pit like come here and don't. 1084 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:51.360 COME here i don't care Very very Kobe recruiting dwight 1085 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.719 were THE vibes i got off they said it, was 1086 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.280 PLAYFUL so i don't think it was longla but, very, like, yeah, 1087 00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:58.480 whatever man you, come here don't. COME here i. 1088 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.719 Don't, care yeah apparently there was A report i saw 1089 00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:03.719 and it Was, on twitter so lord knows if it 1090 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.840 was real, or not but there was like apparently a 1091 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:11.440 part of the Conversation was Lebron, telling, aunt, like hey 1092 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:12.960 LET'S say i don't. 1093 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:14.639 Go there what do you think happens with. 1094 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.480 The team, he's, Like then i'll just bust your head 1095 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.440 whenever we play Against each other's, like whatever like you 1096 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.320 come here, Or not i'm going to be. 1097 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.119 Great REGARDLESS so i. 1098 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.000 Don't KNOW but, i mean he was about to go 1099 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.639 Play With, jaylen brown who just insulted his son's ability 1100 00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.960 to play INTO. The nba so, who knows, YOU know 1101 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.119 I think lebron could make. 1102 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.199 It, Happen Yeah joelle embiid is like a ten year 1103 00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.119 old tweet or something. HE said i can't remember what 1104 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.559 he said About. About Lebron SO i'm i have A 1105 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:40.000 feeling i'll get. Over it. 1106 00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:46.199 I'm, With you i'm. With you, BUT ye i. 1107 00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.360 Don't KNOW how i took us To The minnesota Timberwolves 1108 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:49.199 and lebron, Off this. 1109 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.599 I'll blame ME because i would LIKE to i give 1110 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.599 an answer with something that has nothing to do with 1111 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.960 the question. That's asking try to REMEMBER what i was 1112 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:58.480 SAYING when i tie it. ALL together i like to. 1113 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:04.199 Challenge MYSELF but, i, think yaxl this is TOUGH because 1114 00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:06.719 i don't know if he's going to consistently be able 1115 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.800 to do it like night in, night out like be 1116 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.679 the guy who's guarding, two guards point guards and stuff. 1117 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.559 LIKE that i think that you give him looks, For 1118 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.519 sure but if, you're, saying, like consistently night in, night 1119 00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.639 out he's gonna guard the best player on the, OTHER 1120 00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.159 team i would. 1121 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:24.960 You know i'll buy it just based out. 1122 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.280 OF necessity i don't think that is probably the best 1123 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.480 thing in, the WORLD and i think it speaks to 1124 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.559 the state Of The Golden. STATE warriors i think that, 1125 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.079 he will but, also like this is a guy that 1126 00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:36.760 you can't. 1127 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:37.519 Roll out to do. 1128 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.239 Anything like his developmental path is one of the more 1129 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.639 unique in this entire. DRAFT class, i mean this guy 1130 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.400 almost didn't play high school basketball because he didn't take it. 1131 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:49.239 Seriously enough his mom pretty much cried him into playing 1132 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.599 basketball and then Goes to juco dominates goes to You, 1133 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.440 ab dominates then goes To. The combine, he's, LIKE hey 1134 00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.400 i want to BE an. Nba player, they're, like okay 1135 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.280 go do X. Y z not only not only does, 1136 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.000 he go does he go and do x, y z 1137 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.480 but he Transfers to michigan Plays For dusty may in 1138 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.519 a front court that wasn't supposed, to work, you, know, like. 1139 00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:13.079 Yeah they were like giving up FROM what, i know 1140 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.400 they were just gigantoids and no spacing. 1141 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:20.000 Right exactly LIKE, at uab because, you know with these 1142 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:24.280 mid low major schools, like them if you have any size, 1143 00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.280 at all you're going to play minutes at. The five 1144 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.440 and you saw you actual play the five a LOT. 1145 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:30.840 At uab. 1146 00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.039 Then we saw More as johnson like not really get 1147 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.000 a whole heck of a lot of playing Time, at 1148 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:41.559 illinois and he is like at arms reach on offense 1149 00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.119 coming Out. Of illinois so he's playing at. The five 1150 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:47.079 and then they bring in this like failed PROJECT from 1151 00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:52.519 Ucla and ademara and they all, you know ostensibly play. 1152 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.559 The five, so like How Does dusty may make? This, 1153 00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.239 happen well you actually had to play the three for 1154 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.320 like the first time, ever consistently and he he was 1155 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.679 the best player in college basketball and win a national 1156 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:06.159 championship doing, It RIGHT so i, don't KNOW like i 1157 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.880 don't feel great about him, Doing it but kind of 1158 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.320 LIKE what i said with Kayleb Will or, wilson earlier, 1159 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.480 It's like i'm also not going to be the one 1160 00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.079 To Tell yaxel linnenburg that he can't, do something because 1161 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.320 he's going to and then he's going to clown you about. 1162 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:20.079 It afterwards. 1163 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.960 You KNOW so, i guess based just on what, you're 1164 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.760 saying you would pfer see more looks of kp at 1165 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:28.719 the Five and yaxles at, the four or even in 1166 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:31.719 some lineups Where maybe draymond's the Five and yaxle's. 1167 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:31.800 The. 1168 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.800 Four, correct yeah that's the ideal scenario For Me, WITH 1169 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.280 yaxel i think that he could be a dynamite four 1170 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:40.840 man IN. 1171 00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:41.679 The Nba. 1172 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:47.320 Janni steinbach SOMEONE who i was probably ambivalent to coming into, 1173 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:49.000 the process maybe just a little bit lower on him 1174 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.719 than let other people buy or sell his ability to 1175 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:56.400 play semi regular center minutes IN. 1176 00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.079 The nba this is TRICKY because i was not A 1177 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.960 huge steinbach guy coming into, the year and he didn't 1178 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.440 really do anything for me throughout the rest of the 1179 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.360 year to kind of like curb my concerns or CAUTIONS 1180 00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.960 that i had within. HIS game i get that he's 1181 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.599 arguably the best rebounder in, the game but rebounding is 1182 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.400 a very. Translatable skill by, The, Way dan i'm sure that, you, 1183 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.920 know right like to the best players IN the nba at, 1184 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.840 their position like regardless, of position like relative to, their 1185 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:35.039 position they're, great rebounders, You know so rebounding is usually a, 1186 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.239 good indicator but you kind of have to bring something 1187 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.199 else to. The game and That's where i'm kind of 1188 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:44.480 Concerned with steinbach because if he is, a five big 1189 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:45.199 men are asked. 1190 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:46.400 To do more today than. 1191 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.079 Ever, before dan like we TALKED about i think we 1192 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:53.159 talked about this unlocked on with. Big men you have 1193 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.280 the traditional big men things that they're asked, to do, 1194 00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.320 Right rebounding steinbach, can do, RINT protection i don't Know 1195 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:03.119 if steinbock do finishing around the rim over other giant. 1196 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.280 BIG men i don't know if he's going to be 1197 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.119 able to. Do that but then passing is such a 1198 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.719 big part about big men and like how long they're 1199 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:15.119 able to be on, you know a starting rotation on, 1200 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.880 the FLOOR and i don't EVERYTHING that i saw this 1201 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.960 year and NOTHING that i Saw At summer league kind of. 1202 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:25.119 Like ease my concerns with That is steinbach is not 1203 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:29.039 a very, connective passer, you know so now you're kind 1204 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.719 of looking, at him in, my opinion as like an 1205 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:36.920 undersized FIVE who i don't know how he finishes over 1206 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.159 the best of the best IN, the NBA and i 1207 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:41.760 don't know how he protects the rim at the five IN. 1208 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:46.440 The nba so But admittedly i'm one of the lower people. 1209 00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:48.760 On him, you know he does move well on, The 1210 00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.400 FLOOR so i think the hope is that you're looking 1211 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.239 at some sort Of Like alprin shane goon domas the. 1212 00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:59.880 Bonus disciple but those guys pass the ball and. He 1213 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.039 doesn't so now you're looking at Is a yaka partle 1214 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:07.800 but not as, Good defensively like it's a weird it's 1215 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.880 A weird vinn diagram, for me like scouting wise as 1216 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.559 to like how Good can? Steinbach BE like i get 1217 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.039 that he, could rebound it as a very important skill 1218 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.000 to have IN, the nba but what else is he 1219 00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.400 going to do on a team that just lost their, 1220 00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.000 offensive engine like and really sole source of? Rim, pressure 1221 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.400 like how is he going to work on? This? 1222 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:33.280 Team now. 1223 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.000 Buy? Or sell throwing out concern dispensing with the Concern 1224 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.760 For bennett's starts And a diemarra which, some people a 1225 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:44.320 lot of people are talking about coming Out Of. 1226 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:49.239 Summer league i'm buying IT because i did like the 1227 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.920 two men CHEMISTRY that i did See between Starts. AND 1228 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:58.679 mara i get the concerns for both. Of them maara 1229 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:03.239 didn't really quell any concerns about, the physicality the leverage 1230 00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:06.199 issue with him as being, a rebounder people people being 1231 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.760 able to essentially dig him out of whatever position that 1232 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.880 he's trying. TO establish i just Think And, bennett sertch by, 1233 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.360 the way is like one of the best basketball minds 1234 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.480 within this, class too and ridiculous three point shooting range 1235 00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:21.000 that we did See In summer league. 1236 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:22.400 AS well i. 1237 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.559 Just think that when we think about how these guys 1238 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.639 In The summer league are going to translate to the 1239 00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.400 to the big club IN, THE nba i think their 1240 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:33.760 jobs are going to. 1241 00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:33.760 Be so. 1242 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.920 Like very apparent as to like you are going to 1243 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:40.760 DO a B and c when you're on. The court 1244 00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.719 even if if at all we get to eight OR 1245 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.119 to b and c on, That List like Bennett s 1246 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:48.280 ertch you might just be a. Floor Spacer, at amar 1247 00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.039 you might just be a. Rim protector but they each 1248 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.840 have like these other great qualities to. Their game dan 1249 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.800 to where, You Know bennett SERTs can play make with 1250 00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:58.280 the best. Of them he's going to be able to 1251 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.480 operate a pick, and roll and he's got good size 1252 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.599 as a, point guard and he can. 1253 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.880 Be disruptor he can be a pass on the. 1254 00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.719 Defensive end and we All know adaymar like at seven, 1255 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.800 foot three like he was arguably the best Quarterback in michigan, 1256 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.480 last year and he. Played basketball you know with the 1257 00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:17.440 full court passing that he HAS the dho capability within. 1258 00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:19.519 His game he flashed a lot of that At summer. 1259 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.880 League too EVERYTHING that i Said About, hannes steinbach can 1260 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.519 he do all the big man things AT the? Nba 1261 00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:29.480 level significantly fewer concerns in my opinion With the DeMar 1262 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.400 being able to score at, the rim protect, the, rim 1263 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:34.239 rebound and pass. 1264 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:39.280 The, basketball yeah he threw some really nifty passes At. 1265 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.360 SUMMER league i was kind of hoping he'd be a little. 1266 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:43.880 Bit more, AND again i don't know how much of 1267 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:48.360 this you talk about, your environment. Big board okayse summer 1268 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:52.719 league environment wasn't necessarily conducive to him being or being 1269 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.599 in the best situations to be more aggressive as, a 1270 00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.239 scorer and they almost needed. His PASSING but i found him, 1271 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.800 overly deferential and that was THE thing i clocked the most. 1272 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.039 With him And so i'm curious what JUST because i 1273 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:04.639 don't even know what type of lineups he'll be playing with, 1274 01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:06.920 AN okase i guess they have the benefit of not 1275 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.320 needing him when You have hartenstein And, Chet Holmgren jay 1276 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:14.000 will and also You Know thomas sorber's. Healthy Now so 1277 01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.400 I'm just i'm very curious to see when he, does 1278 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.159 play what, he does what he does look, like offensively 1279 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.639 the passing. IS great I just i was hoping for 1280 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.800 more as a or just. GENERAL physicality i was hoping 1281 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.920 for more of that or just more as a SCORE. 1282 01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.280 And I and i totally understand. Those concerns but to, 1283 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.760 your point whenever he gets To The oklahoma, city proper, 1284 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.320 you know whenever he gets to the to the thunder, 1285 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.440 ACTUAL club i think a lot of his life is 1286 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:44.760 going to be just made so much more simple to 1287 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.599 where he can rely on his, you know just him 1288 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:50.400 being seven foot three with almost ten foot, Standing reach 1289 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.119 like you can't teach. THAT stuff i think that you 1290 01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.239 can play Him and. CHET together i think you could 1291 01:00:55.239 --> 01:01:01.000 play Him in. Hartenstein together jay will obviously Super Versatile 1292 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:06.320 jalen Williams The Arkansas, jaalen Williams. Not JDUBB but i 1293 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.159 think that he's super versatile as well to where you 1294 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.800 can get real Creative And oklahoma city can run a 1295 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:17.239 two big lineup essentially whenever they. Want NOW and i 1296 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.599 think too in terms of like the environment adjusted aspect 1297 01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.440 people were, concerned about like the minute load that he 1298 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.440 would be able to Handle At, oklahoma city don't even 1299 01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:29.119 really got to worry. ABOUT it i think that it's 1300 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.119 pretty much just copy paste what we Saw. From michigan 1301 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.599 that's the hope for here is that funnel things. To 1302 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.559 him he's going to be able to get his hand, 1303 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:39.360 on shots he's going to be able to finish at, 1304 01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.039 the basket and he's going to be able to attract 1305 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.199 attention and reliably kick the ball out to whoever it 1306 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:45.920 is that's open. 1307 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:46.880 From Deep. 1308 01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:53.400 Malie thomas knew nothing about him Coming Into summer league and, 1309 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.079 WATCHING him i feel like you could put him in 1310 01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:01.519 some Type of american gladiator, obstacle course and whatever route 1311 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.239 he needs to take to get to, the whop he'll 1312 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.480 just figure it out. To SCORE and i also came, 1313 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.079 away thinking when you look at scoring Champions In, summer 1314 01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.159 league it's we're conditioned to take those guys with a grain, 1315 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:17.599 of salt specifically buy or sell his scoring ability being 1316 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.960 more translatable TO the nba than The average summer league score. 1317 01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.280 Success Story so i'm gonna preface this again WITH that 1318 01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:29.679 i Am, from, arkansas RIGHT so i understand that people 1319 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.079 are gonna take whatever it IS that i say next 1320 01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:33.880 and they're gonna skew It because i'm gonna. 1321 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:38.239 Have this, You know i'm gonna support. My people for 1322 01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.519 lack of a, better, Expression here i'm. 1323 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:44.639 BUYING it i said it coming coming into the draft 1324 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:50.079 that people might Not, remember Dan But malik Thomas AND. 1325 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.480 Darius A cuff junior were both recruited out of high 1326 01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.760 school at the exact. Same position both were recruited out 1327 01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:00.239 of high school as. Point, Guard OBVIOUSLY. Darius a cup 1328 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.000 being the higher, ranked guy he was the one that 1329 01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:06.480 you prioritize the structure of the, offensive round which meant, 1330 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:10.559 That maliite thomas had to learn how to do ant 1331 01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:14.719 sillary things and it wasn't an easy immediate translation. For 1332 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:18.480 him he actually got benched by Coach kyl pari early 1333 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.960 on in the process because defensively he. Was unplayable he. 1334 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.679 Didn't rebound the decision making, was solid but it wasn't 1335 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:27.400 as great as it would it end up being throughout 1336 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.079 the rest of, the year but he was still put 1337 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.280 in positions to where he could build his confidence, that 1338 01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.960 way when he was inserted back into the, starting lineup 1339 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.079 we got To See malik thomas be a really solid 1340 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:42.199 defender AT the, sec level which some might argue is 1341 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.559 the most athletic conference in, college basketball so we got 1342 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.679 to see elite take on those athletic assignments on the. 1343 01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:51.480 Defensive end his rebounding, got better and then if you 1344 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.639 look at Just as sister turnover ratio in college he 1345 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:56.880 was as high as some of the best people within. 1346 01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:01.079 This class and that's with him sacrificing the mode potent 1347 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:05.679 aspect of. His game and then you start, thinking, about 1348 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.320 like is there the Coach cal pari effect here where 1349 01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:11.239 like the second or third guard they typically have to 1350 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.840 sacrifice a lot whenever they play for coach cal for 1351 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.599 the greater good of. The program so is there this 1352 01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:22.440 like unearthed on ball Potential With maliite thomas that we 1353 01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.000 didn't get to see because he played with the people 1354 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.119 who he. PLAYED with i thought that coming out of 1355 01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.679 his lone Season in ARKANSAS and i had HIM ranked 1356 01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.280 i think like twenty second or. Twenty third and that's. 1357 01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:34.960 Me being high. 1358 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.599 On him, you know in a class that, you know 1359 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.320 typically you're not gonna see more than you know twenty 1360 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.519 two to twenty five players survive a. Draft Class so, 1361 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.400 I'M like i still believe in, this GUY but i 1362 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.960 still have. My doubts but to see him come Out 1363 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.239 for cleveland and drop thirty balls like, it's nothing and 1364 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.119 not even just, the numbers but it's the manner in 1365 01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.719 which he's. Doing, it dan the fact that he's driving 1366 01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:58.119 and dunking on people, is like. 1367 01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.199 Where in the heck we're in the heck is? 1368 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:05.920 This MAN but i genuinely think that him learning how 1369 01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.599 to do that everything else at a high level and 1370 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:13.599 a very competitive conference in college basketball helped his development 1371 01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:16.280 to the point to where he knows what the number one. 1372 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:19.679 Guy needs but he still has that diet you know 1373 01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:22.920 that dynamism to his game to where you have to 1374 01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.079 pay attention to him as, a scorer and it just 1375 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.920 made him such a complete basketball player in his loan 1376 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.599 season in college to, Where yeah i'm buying there's probably 1377 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.719 some really good scoring potential here, with him and It's 1378 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.039 not he's not a one. Trick pony like we Just 1379 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.599 Saw isaiah evans come Out of duke and Play. For 1380 01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.679 minnesota he did not a lot of People Liked isaiah 1381 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.480 evans more So Than eliite thomas because the size and 1382 01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:52.440 whatever the case. Might be but we saw him Struggle. 1383 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.519 At minnesota he did not look anywhere near as Good As. 1384 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.119 Malik thomas and you, Might, say okay he did so 1385 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.159 good a, summer league now we can't trust him if 1386 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.159 you want to play. THAT game i totally. Understand IT 1387 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:06.400 but i believe that this could have been a possible 1388 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:07.639 outcome with him before we. 1389 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.239 Saw it, So. 1390 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.239 Yeah i'm Buying The malik thomas stock that there is 1391 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:12.800 more to him than what we got to See. 1392 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.559 At. ARKANSAS yeah i. 1393 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.880 MEAN also i mean six assists per one hundred to 1394 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.760 two turnovers basically per one hundred possessions for summer league. 1395 01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:26.159 Is insane like it's. JUST bonkers i do want. 1396 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.239 In keeping with his college, Numbers too like if you 1397 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:30.280 look at, his college if you go To bart torvik 1398 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:34.079 and look up, college stats his assister turnover Ratio at 1399 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:35.480 arkansas was at. 1400 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:40.679 That level is he someone who can like generate more 1401 01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.159 free throw attempts or is that not going to be 1402 01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:44.840 part of? His game do you think. 1403 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.199 That's Where i'll i'll put on the brakes a little 1404 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.079 bit to the to the Train that i'm. DRIVING here 1405 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:52.559 i don't know if he's going to be a natural. 1406 01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:56.079 DOWNHILL driver i think he's gonna need to. Get stronger but, 1407 01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.960 that frame super, squared off, upper body, long arms looks 1408 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.079 he's going to be able, to support, you know some 1409 01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:03.639 some developmental strength as he. 1410 01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:05.880 Gets better i'm. 1411 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.920 Not really it's NOT what i would be hanging my, 1412 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.440 hat on Like if i'm, Developing, HIM like i don't 1413 01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:14.760 think that it's gonna be a big part of. His 1414 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:16.760 GAME but i think it's gonna be something that he's 1415 01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.719 going to have to LEARN because i don't think he's 1416 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.480 been put in position to where that's like a natural 1417 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.320 aspect of. HIS game i think that's going to be 1418 01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:26.199 something that, You know cleveland is going to have to 1419 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.239 work with him on to get there because we just haven't. 1420 01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:30.280 SEEN it i. 1421 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.559 Don't know if he even needs to be like a 1422 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.920 downhill threat to get because some of the circular paths 1423 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.840 he took to, the BASKET as i would, describe HIM 1424 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.039 and i think IT was i want to say it 1425 01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.199 Was the. Miami game we're. Just stunning. To me we're 1426 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:45.639 just like it was just kind of bailouts for cutest 1427 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.760 pass to. The basket and so if he's going to 1428 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.559 be able to do that in addition to shoot the 1429 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.239 ball the way that he did and then not even, 1430 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.760 just passed but like just protecting possessions the way to make. 1431 01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.079 Great, decisions yeah. 1432 01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.159 It's like are we gonna sit here and say we 1433 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.559 did This With jalen tyson. Last year It's like cavs 1434 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.760 like might have kind of just mind this gem and 1435 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.599 it seems like they might have done. IT again i 1436 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:06.079 Really liked. 1437 01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.599 Tyson too you're Talking at maharshing's here with. 1438 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:11.079 The names they need. Him now he's that as we're. 1439 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.920 Recording this he's their best on ball wing defender at, 1440 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.520 the moment so they. Need, him UH before i ask 1441 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.439 you for some like quick hitting stuff on sophomores In. 1442 01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:22.800 Summer league were there any other rookies or any other 1443 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.239 just general takeaways and some of the first year players 1444 01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:26.600 that you saw that you wanted. 1445 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:30.000 To discuss I'll give coapte a shout out because he 1446 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:32.359 was the guy throughout the YEAR that i, was like 1447 01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:38.920 his production did not match the accolades that he had 1448 01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:41.359 coming into. The year dan like he was the only 1449 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:47.760 guy who Could Rival cam boozer in terms of high, school, accomplishments. Recognitions, 1450 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.439 accolades like however you want to, phrase that he was 1451 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:54.199 the only one who can rival That Of. Cam boozer 1452 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.199 his first Game against florida was a, fantastic game but 1453 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.239 it was a roller coaster. ALL season a lot and 1454 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.279 a lot has been made of his three point, shooting 1455 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:08.239 pre during and, post combine and it was just like 1456 01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:10.960 one of those things where he's got, the frame he's got. 1457 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.960 The athleticism he clearly is a, smart player because even 1458 01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.399 though he was a, disappointing year he was like A 1459 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.960 High may hawkes to this team to where he could 1460 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.439 like make good decisions with the ball and pass. People 1461 01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:27.279 OPEN and i, was like my comparison for him was 1462 01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.720 How may Hawks like i'm PRETTY sure i would draft 1463 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:33.680 him in the Same range hawkes. Was Taken but i'm 1464 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.880 also worried that he could have been This Year's. Peyton 1465 01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.239 watson BUT then i watched Him At, summer league and 1466 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.439 The Whole payton watson thing was highly, regarded recruit underperformed, 1467 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.960 in college still found a way to be productive and 1468 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.840 valuable IN. The nba we're seeing that now with, you 1469 01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:54.399 Know the hull contract projections with him for his free. 1470 01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:58.079 Agency NOW but i started THINKING when i was Watching 1471 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:01.479 Co o pete playing For the phoenix that maybe that 1472 01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:03.680 bar was. Too low maybe me saying that he could 1473 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.279 be this Class As peyton watson was too low because 1474 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:08.920 we saw him shoot the ball, With confidence we saw 1475 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.039 him attack, the paint we saw him head topping people 1476 01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.439 and dunking on people In In. Summer league we saw 1477 01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.319 him kind Of Taunt, nata mint who was drafted, significantly 1478 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.720 higher whenever he finished, over him hitting him with the 1479 01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:27.039 two small selly. On HIM so i just was so 1480 01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:31.399 impressed with the confidence and the productivity With co OPETE 1481 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.800 that I that i'm worried that we as a draft community. 1482 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:40.079 Undervalued him and there is always like there's it feels 1483 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.760 like almost every class has this guy who, was like 1484 01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.720 did not play up to, the expectations but we should 1485 01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:48.000 have seen it coming And, CO opede i feel like it's. 1486 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:48.680 That guy. 1487 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.319 I'm curious to see if he'll get Minutes in phoenix 1488 01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:55.880 just because the forward Now With miles, bridges there they 1489 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:57.880 have OsO in the front court to go with common 1490 01:10:57.880 --> 01:10:59.760 mile A Watch. Mark williams i'm curious if he'll be 1491 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:00.359 able to Get. 1492 01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.479 Sure fleming was pretty good Too In. SUMMER league i. 1493 01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.000 Thought he was gonna play or sounded. Like sheer fleming 1494 01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:07.800 was in line to get like thirty minutes a game 1495 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:10.279 next season Before The miles, bridges trade which is maybe 1496 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.880 why part of the reason you Make The miles. Bridges 1497 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.319 TRADE do i need to? Really QUICKLY do i need 1498 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.960 to sell my dawn swayin stock or is he simply 1499 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:22.920 not a? Point guard IS that i? 1500 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.279 WOULD say i would say. Sell IT and I Like 1501 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:26.439 dalan swain a. 1502 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:26.720 Good. 1503 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:34.359 Bit, yeah sometimes like people will, you know in what, 1504 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.680 we do people ask you questions on like what do You, 1505 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.840 Value dan like whenever you're looking at, you, know contracts team, 1506 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.840 construct whatever like what do you? 1507 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:44.640 Value MOST when i Was At. 1508 01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.279 SUMMER league i got asked that question a, few, times, Like, 1509 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:51.039 hey steven you know obviously like certain things or sticky 1510 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.640 to the question that you, asked earlier like certain things 1511 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.159 are more sticky. Than others what is it that you 1512 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.359 look for from a prospect Here At? Summer league, to 1513 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:02.479 me it's come, For ABILITY like i don't necessarily care 1514 01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:07.039 so much of the efficiency or you know how many 1515 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.399 touches you're getting, per se but how comfortable do you 1516 01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.199 look with the role and the opportunities that are giving. 1517 01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:17.520 To You dalen swain did not look comfortable out there on, 1518 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.399 the court, you KNOW. Like i he didn't look. Comfortable 1519 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:23.920 shooting he didn't look comfortable being. A playmaker there was 1520 01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:26.760 So Much noah essenay out there To where, i'm Like 1521 01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.800 if noah S and gay is kind of pushing you 1522 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:34.239 in terms of like role production stuff, like that it's 1523 01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:38.199 not a. Great SIGN and i just Think that chicago 1524 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.680 probably was one of the more kind of like downside 1525 01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.880 environments for him to LAND because i don't think that 1526 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.239 he he doesn't solve any of the problems that the, 1527 01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.319 roster HAS and i don't think that the strengths. 1528 01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:55.680 That he that he provides are more than what's. 1529 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.079 Already there if that, Makes SENSE so i think it's 1530 01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:00.640 a tough spot For him land. 1531 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:04.760 It makes sense and absolutely disembattles my soul at the, 1532 01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:06.560 same TIME so i hate. It. 1533 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.760 Too brother let's talk. 1534 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.720 Some sophomores let's see how many of these guys can 1535 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:13.319 get through before we NEED discadadle i. NEED to i 1536 01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.039 think the two that need to be talked about Start 1537 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:20.119 With yegor joeman Buy or sell his sudden improvement as 1538 01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:23.560 an inside the arc attacker And finisher ali hoop. 1539 01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:28.840 Finisher Too yeah i'm, Buying, Man yeah i'm. Buying it, 1540 01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.640 you know when we went to our team Dinner In 1541 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.000 caesar's Palace, in vegas we actually Walked pat we were 1542 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:40.279 like walking in Step with yegor And With mike hel 1543 01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:42.520 and a few other players for the For, the NETS 1544 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:44.439 and i just looked at HIM and i, Was, like 1545 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.760 gosh this dude, is huge and he's getting, like stronger 1546 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:50.319 like you can, see it and like the mass and, 1547 01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:54.439 the definition and he already blew the doors off of 1548 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.119 my expectations as a shooter in his rookie season For 1549 01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.560 the nets TO where i felt like that made the 1550 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:03.359 rest of his game that much more projectable and the 1551 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:07.399 developmental path for him a little with less resistance in 1552 01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:09.680 him getting to where he needs to. Get TO and 1553 01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:11.880 i think that what we saw him Do In summer 1554 01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.640 league is only just like a slight indication of like 1555 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.359 what the rest of the league kind of has to 1556 01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:21.199 look forward to because he's he's making that sophomore improvement 1557 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:23.960 in terms of like rounding out the entire offense. 1558 01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.000 For him he was one of the very FEW things 1559 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:28.880 i was right about with in the past year was 1560 01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:31.239 pumping the brakes on people saying That the nets completely 1561 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:39.079 fucked up their draft. LAST year, i thought. 1562 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.159 You gotta hammer the you gotta hammer. 1563 01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:39.760 The, victories dude you. 1564 01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:41.760 Were right the shooting, was like that WAS what i 1565 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.439 was told to be concerned about, Coming IN and i 1566 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.800 think one it makes for an easier fit Now Alongside Mikel. 1567 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.720 Brown jr and they Are Throwing julius randall into. The 1568 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:52.840 Mix The julius randall trade bums me out a little 1569 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:55.600 bit more NOW because i don't want it to monopolize 1570 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.479 Touches From jeglor Joeman Or Mikel. Brown JUNIOR but i 1571 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.239 think both of those Guys are everyone probably hates this 1572 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:03.920 word now but they're scalable enough to make, it work 1573 01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.239 like the Jeg or Joe And Michael. Brown junior even 1574 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:08.520 Just Having Michael porter, junior there whether he's a long 1575 01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:11.000 term piece, or not this team has the potential some 1576 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.840 really interesting things. On offense, and yeah talk about a 1577 01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.520 Sicko With jordi fernandez is your head? Coach, Too uh 1578 01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:20.079 they're gonna be a sneaky good league PASS watch i think. 1579 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.640 This season uh with you buy, Or sell i've got 1580 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:26.600 acually two, for him but buy or cell common, model 1581 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.079 watches three point touch or just viability is the pick 1582 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:31.359 and pop threat that he Was In. 1583 01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:36.039 Summer league i'm buying IT if i can. Sell anything it's. 1584 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.920 His nickname people are calling Him, man MAN and I 1585 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.880 hate oh They're not please tell Me, that no that's That's, 1586 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.680 that's oh it's. A thing it's it's, a THING and i. 1587 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.880 Hate IT but I we i feel LIKE if i, 1588 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:52.920 CARED enough i could help. Workshop something but to, the 1589 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.560 question the the one that, YOU asked i am buying 1590 01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.560 the three. Point shooting i'm in an Almost Like brydon 1591 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:01.800 burry's Territory with mam malowatch to where like you, can 1592 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.640 say can Come on malla watch dot dot dot do 1593 01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:06.039 you buy? 1594 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:07.279 Or sell i'm gonna. 1595 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:10.199 Buy IT and i was not a big mam mallow 1596 01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:15.159 watch guy coming into his draft because, YOU know i 1597 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:18.239 talked ABOUT how i value comfortability for. Big men if 1598 01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:20.439 there's ANYTHING that i want to see in a, big, 1599 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:22.079 MAN like i want them to kind of have. A 1600 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:24.279 problem i want them to be a little bit mean. 1601 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:26.680 AND nasty i want them to be. A bully And 1602 01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:33.680 man man. WAS not, I know i tried it ON 1603 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:35.760 and i. Hate it i'm returning it back to the 1604 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:42.439 nickname store. Right Now, at douke he was so DEFERENTIAL 1605 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:44.960 that i, WAS like i don't KNOW if i can buy. 1606 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.000 Into THIS like i get, THE potential i get that 1607 01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:49.920 he's late to, THE game i get, THE size i 1608 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:53.119 get the all. These things but he was so DIFFERENTIAL 1609 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:55.720 that i, WAS like i. Don't like mentality to me 1610 01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:57.520 is like one of those things that's like it's kind 1611 01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:01.439 of who, you are, You know so Like if i'm 1612 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:03.840 the guy that Misses on Kama, Male watch i'm gonna 1613 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.520 be the guy that misses. On him and we didn't 1614 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:09.199 see him play that much as, a rookie but watching 1615 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:11.920 Him In, summer league, It's, like oh this dude has 1616 01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.119 been working on literally every aspect of basketball to include 1617 01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:19.840 that three. Point shot i'm, Buying IT Like i i'll 1618 01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:23.000 wait until to the second by sell, with him But 1619 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.079 like i'm in dangerous territory Here With. 1620 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:25.439 Kama. 1621 01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:28.359 Mola watch so the second one is do you he 1622 01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.680 did still make me nervous in some of his catches on, 1623 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:33.079 The move so do you buy or sell that his, 1624 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.680 his hands that part of, his game the coordination is gonna. 1625 01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:38.920 Be okay i'm buying that it's gonna be okay just 1626 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.800 because of the literally the development of everything Else from 1627 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:42.239 you're one. 1628 01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.119 To, Two like i'm. 1629 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:47.720 BUYING it i think that the hands are gonna are gonna. 1630 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.159 BE there i just think the mentality shift for him 1631 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:55.600 to where, for me the question was as a rookie 1632 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.880 with him is like is he going to be like 1633 01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.159 a starting level center IN? The nba can he be 1634 01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:06.119 like a top twenty center IN? The nba, Like now, 1635 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:09.720 I'M like i might need some billsim and settled down, 1636 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.760 Juice Here but i'm starting to get to. The question 1637 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.640 i'm starting to. Get to the points is like can 1638 01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:16.800 this dude be like one of the best big men IN, 1639 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.359 the nba like upper echelon big men IN, the nba 1640 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.920 Like not Nikolaiokich or Joe, l embi, but like can 1641 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:29.560 he be like In that bam outa bio level of 1642 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.239 Big MEN like i don't think that's outside Of the romo. 1643 01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:35.119 Possibility anymore with his year one to year or. Two, 1644 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.159 improvements wow that's. 1645 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:38.920 THAT'S exciting i don't KNOW if i could get, The 1646 01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.800 offense i'm still kind of have question marks for but 1647 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.479 the defense is just and he looks stronger even. On 1648 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:47.239 offense the screens just feel like he's. Connecting more he 1649 01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:48.800 knows when to slip him or when to. Not to 1650 01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:51.479 now that's the final BUYER cell i have. For him, 1651 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:53.880 IN spoiler i, WOULD buy i said buy or Sell 1652 01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:57.720 common mala watch starting For the Suns by christmas and 1653 01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:59.800 that's a team that's trying. To Win and i'll Stick 1654 01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.720 with Christmas and i'll just. Take by at, THIS point 1655 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:04.880 i might Not, be oh he's The next bam like, 1656 01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:08.039 you're SAYING and i know you're not necessarily. Predicting, that 1657 01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:11.640 yeah just start, him now what are? WE doing i 1658 01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.199 know you Just Resign mark williams and you Have no 1659 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:15.279 just start, Him, now. 1660 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.199 Yeah this is clearly. 1661 01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:22.039 The future Like the suns sneakily have like one of 1662 01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:26.439 the more interesting collection of young talent on, this team 1663 01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:31.359 and it shouldn't be that way with how you know 1664 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.239 by this now you know kind of like f them, 1665 01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:38.800 picks mentality they should not have an exciting collection of, 1666 01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:42.279 young talent but, they do, you know like and it's 1667 01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:44.239 all in the, front court by, the way so they 1668 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:45.680 got to round. It out it's got to be a 1669 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.800 little bit more. Evenly DISTRIBUTED but i Still Like. Raser flemings, 1670 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:51.880 YOU know i said on our show that a smart 1671 01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:55.239 team should try to make this be like the Second To, 1672 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.239 Monty kamara like they have so much stuff at that, 1673 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:02.359 four Spot and rashier has looked good with every Opportunity 1674 01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.640 that phoenix has given him to, where Like if i'm a, 1675 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:05.399 smart teamer. 1676 01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.680 Trade doesn't like displace him from. 1677 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:13.199 The, rotation yeah the smart team should pluck him away from. 1678 01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.840 That situation like two second, round picks three second. Round picks, 1679 01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.439 you know it's gotten a lot better Talent Than rashier 1680 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.840 fleming TO where i think if you came To the 1681 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:25.319 suns with two second round picks and like a stash 1682 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:27.119 candidate like maybe you can sway. 1683 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:27.880 Them, Away. 1684 01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.920 Uh i'm trying to SEE what i. Get THROUGH so 1685 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.039 i want to Talk About yugo gonzales really quickly buy 1686 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:38.359 or sell the idea of him getting, i'll say noticeably 1687 01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:41.720 more on ball Responsibilities in boston because it'd probably be. 1688 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:43.840 Tough too when you're looking at the on ball action 1689 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:46.079 share of possession that he had, last year it'd be 1690 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:48.239 tough for him to like, go down there's really nowhere. 1691 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.439 To go but but, but yeah put the ball in 1692 01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:53.000 his hands a Lot In. Summer league he wasn't hyper 1693 01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.800 efficient as, a scorer but for a team that some 1694 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:57.920 of the passes, he threw he's running pick and rolls 1695 01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.600 some of the pass, HE threw, i thought we're just 1696 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:04.039 really spot on and they need another perimeter player who 1697 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:07.079 is comfortable After Trading, jalen brown because That's Not paul 1698 01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:10.000 pulters might be a better fit for assoula Ball Than, 1699 01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:11.560 jalen brown but he's not going to give you the 1700 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.439 on ball rim pressure from the wing. Spot anymore and, 1701 01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:16.680 You lo. Gonzales might and so if he, can pass 1702 01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.199 or if he can just take a ball screen and 1703 01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:21.840 kind of run the offense, That way i'm not really, 1704 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.359 predict IT but i might be prepared to buy this 1705 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:28.239 one in a WAY that i would not have been 1706 01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:28.920 like four to six. 1707 01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:30.880 Weeks ago i'll. 1708 01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:34.239 Give it a slide up arrow JUST because i think 1709 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:37.600 to the point that you Just made dan like there's 1710 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.039 like a vacuum that it's got to be filled in. 1711 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:43.319 The aggregate And if boston is looking to put him 1712 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:46.479 in the position that they Did In, summer league then 1713 01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:49.840 that tells me that that front office is thinking that 1714 01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:53.119 there could be something. To that But Even paul george 1715 01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:54.840 and like the role that he's, IN now i think 1716 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.439 that he's going to be asked to make. Good Decisions 1717 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:00.439 peyton pritchard is everyone is trying to make can be 1718 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:03.520 The New, jalen brunson, AND uh i don't know if 1719 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:05.479 that's going to be, a THING but i think that 1720 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:07.800 he's gonna ask to do a lot. Of CREATION and 1721 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.720 i don't want to forget too That Like baylor shireman 1722 01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:14.520 in every level of college that he played showed that 1723 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.079 he is like a very good like ball handler and. 1724 01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:20.960 Passer too LIKE if i had to buy anyone from 1725 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.680 like the lower portions of that rotation to take a 1726 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:27.319 step up and playmaking, and distribution it Would Be. Baylor 1727 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.479 SHIREMAN but i think you like in terms of like 1728 01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:33.840 where they were last year to, this Year can google 1729 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:37.159 could take? ON more i, think so just because it's 1730 01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:39.479 got to be one and, the aggregate But not i'm 1731 01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:41.920 not buying As much HUGO as I Am. 1732 01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.159 Baylor shireman the other THING with, i mean even both 1733 01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:47.800 those guys, is that Like, with ugo the Role In 1734 01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.960 summer league is not even to be kind of indicative 1735 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.920 of what he's doing on The. Actual CELTICS so i 1736 01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.199 might be getting a little bit too carried away. 1737 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:54.920 With that's the. 1738 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:57.720 Summer league as for though you're supposed to if you like, 1739 01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:00.960 the guy you're supposed to hammer the summer league showing that's. 1740 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.960 The, RULES well i can't tell if this is reckless anymore. 1741 01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:06.359 Or Not Because blackcool bali was one of my. Favorite 1742 01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:11.000 prospects buy Or Sell will riley being a better prospect 1743 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:13.960 Than Block cool bali, Right now i'm. 1744 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:15.359 Buying it, you know is it. 1745 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:17.159 Even the question at? This point is? 1746 01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:21.560 IT debatable i think some people, would, say well technically on, 1747 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.000 this team you know what Ball Cole a bali brings 1748 01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:26.840 as a perimeter defender, And like i'm sure you could 1749 01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:32.000 probably get real, you know you could get a lot of, you, 1750 01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:34.479 know scrutiny depending on what you value more in. 1751 01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:39.520 A Prospect But will riley was just, very much very 1752 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.479 apparent that he's ready to take on a larger, scoring 1753 01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:47.319 responsibility which again is interesting with the whole tree young and. 1754 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:51.239 Ad acquisitions and you Still Got keishaan george on this 1755 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:51.920 team too. 1756 01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:54.520 Before he got injured last. Year, too. 1757 01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:58.720 Yeah fantastic and then you Add aj debasa who inherently 1758 01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:00.520 is going to take on a lot of usage and 1759 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.079 a lot of playmaking and stuff, like THAT which i 1760 01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:07.319 think east away at the stuff That Ballall cola bally is. 1761 01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:09.359 Good at by, the way he's not a, floor Spacer 1762 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:14.560 And will riley just flat out phenomenal like as a 1763 01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.680 floor spacer now with, good size a good, decision maker 1764 01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:22.880 stronger than what his frame would. Otherwise indicate, Forgive me 1765 01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:25.279 i'm forgetting the player's NAME because i call him by 1766 01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.640 his awesome nickname. So much but Who is Kelly You. 1767 01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.039 BRAY jr i remember his NAME before i. EMBARRASS myself i. 1768 01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.920 Think, That's great that's that's a. 1769 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.119 Great Nickname will riley has got a Lot of tsunami 1770 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.199 poppy in his in, his GAME and i think we 1771 01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:47.119 saw a lot of That At summer, league too to 1772 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:51.319 where like he is so he's better at. 1773 01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:53.760 The fundamentals than like the like. 1774 01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.159 The flashy nature to his game like gives him, credit 1775 01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.479 for but he's so much fun to watch whenever he's on. 1776 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.000 A heater that's kind of like the ROLE that i 1777 01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:06.000 See Will will riley bringing To The washington wizards is 1778 01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:09.520 like this, heat check offensive engine guy who can do 1779 01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:11.680 a lot more of The anti larry things than he's 1780 01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:13.960 gonna get. Credit for but he's gonna be kind of 1781 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:18.479 like the fan Favorite Like. Bobblehead night, you know he's 1782 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:20.359 gonna be the guy that the fans are getting behind 1783 01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:23.079 and making cool chants for and stuff. LIKE that i 1784 01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.880 think it's easily in my Opinion That will riley is 1785 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:28.359 gonna usurp ballall Cool of bally. 1786 01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:30.720 That wing Rotation, in, washington man is. 1787 01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:36.199 It's, Legitesty YEAH can i ask question about oh about? 1788 01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:39.000 That team what do you Think about alex sar on 1789 01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.279 this team? Moving forward like he's the one guy to 1790 01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:44.399 WHERE like i don't know like what to expect from 1791 01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:47.199 him at all with the way that this roster is 1792 01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.039 kind of fleshed out. 1793 01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:52.880 As NICE i'm I think i was higher on him 1794 01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:55.760 before they Brought In. Anthony davis and obviously those two 1795 01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.880 have not played, together yet but it shows that, to me, 1796 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.159 AT least i telegraphs and then they go ahead and 1797 01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:03.680 trade for eight and that they want him to play 1798 01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:06.520 more of a. Four ROLE and i actually think when 1799 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:10.640 you're looking at the physicality and kind of, THE finishing i. 1800 01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.079 Get it but just the things that he can do, 1801 01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.399 ON offense i think the shooting is gonna be fine 1802 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:17.640 when he's putting the ball on. The floor even some 1803 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.279 of the things that he can do from, THE standstill 1804 01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:21.960 i think that's more of. A mismatch i don't even 1805 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:23.960 think we know that's more of a mismatch at, the 1806 01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.800 FIVE and i think that. He is they haven't had 1807 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:29.960 great with the Exception of Balakol, about, lee like they 1808 01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.239 haven't had great defensive talent. AROUND him i think that 1809 01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.880 that's someone who could, be inoperable like. Five Anchors so 1810 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:38.680 i'm still pretty High On. ALEX sar i don't like 1811 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:42.079 the IDEA of i don't want it to be their 1812 01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:43.960 default or their, Go to like if we get to 1813 01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.039 a point, where, Like Oh alex aar. IS closing i 1814 01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:48.640 know we're seeing more dual, big LINEUPS but. I don't 1815 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:50.399 i just feel like that puts him in a position 1816 01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:53.039 to where the three point shot needs to be a 1817 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.520 marquee element of, his GAME and i don't necessarily when 1818 01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:58.119 you look at his skill set and the things that he, 1819 01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:01.199 COULD do i thought getting Someone Like trey young in 1820 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:04.239 there was just enough because that WAS he i thought 1821 01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:06.119 he just needed someone to set him. UP more. I 1822 01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:08.439 didn't he needed that to me way more than. He, 1823 01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:10.600 NEEDED oh i need another big or two to. 1824 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:14.000 Insulate, Me yeah and that's kind of Like where i'm at. 1825 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.840 As well it's almost kind of it's like it's their 1826 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:20.520 Version Of Jaron jackson junior on a team that already 1827 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.760 had enough front court play on it, to like how 1828 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:26.399 is this gonna fit on? This team does he now play? 1829 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:28.640 The four is he is he still? A, Five like 1830 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:31.239 i'm just curious what his function and role on that 1831 01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.600 team is. GONNA be i think that they're gonna need 1832 01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.079 HIM to i think they're gonna need that three point 1833 01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:39.640 shooting to be to word that you, just said like 1834 01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.399 a marquee element with the floor spacing that this team is, 1835 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:46.960 gonna have at least in The immediate it's gonna be 1836 01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.720 interesting to see if they look to play Him and, 1837 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.640 davis together because defensively that could be. Really fun, but, 1838 01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:57.960 offensively like you're talking about two guys who aren't shot shooting, 1839 01:27:57.960 --> 01:27:59.800 from deep but they're not the most efficient from out. 1840 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:00.680 There either. 1841 01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:03.840 Can you buy? Or sell i'm gonna frame it, this 1842 01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:06.640 way buy. Or SELL if i set the over Under 1843 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:08.720 At trey johnson as a one and a half, level 1844 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:12.399 scorer you're going to buy or sell the over the under. 1845 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.199 On that how's that for a confusing? 1846 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.920 Frame, IT no i get exactly what, you're saying and 1847 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:20.800 it's almost to the playmaking portion of what we talked 1848 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:25.159 about Earlier With. DARREN peterson i think that's the like 1849 01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:28.560 you should be a bookie with the lines that. 1850 01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:29.359 You're selling. 1851 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:32.880 I'm probably gonna, sell IT and i don't feel great 1852 01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:35.399 about IT because i Really Love trey johnson coming Out 1853 01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:38.479 of texas within his, DRAFT too i think that he 1854 01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:41.439 is going to provide a scoring punch that is. Desperately 1855 01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:43.560 needed we talked just a second ago about the three 1856 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.680 point shooting woes that this team. Might Have trey johnson 1857 01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:48.399 has got to be the guy that opens the floor 1858 01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:48.800 up for so. 1859 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:49.960 MANY people. 1860 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:53.960 I think that he can be, a good kind of 1861 01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:55.600 like complimentary scorer to. 1862 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:56.279 The team you. 1863 01:28:56.359 --> 01:28:59.600 Obviously don't the, problem IS and i think that a 1864 01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.359 lot of people people would answer this in a similar 1865 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.000 way to where how good is the team going to 1866 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:08.000 Be If? Trey Johnson trey johnson is your number one 1867 01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:12.079 scorer on, your team because in, my opinion it's not 1868 01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:13.960 going to be as dynamic as it's going to be 1869 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:15.800 compared to the like the good teams IN. 1870 01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:17.119 The, Nba right so if. 1871 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.840 He's your, best score, to me that says a lot 1872 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:22.880 about where your team is and it's developmental stages and 1873 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:24.800 probably in the win loss column. 1874 01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:25.760 As well But. 1875 01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:30.000 If trey johnson is like, your second, you know score 1876 01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:32.720 offensively but still kind of like your third or fourth, 1877 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.039 best player then you have a really. 1878 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:35.279 Good. 1879 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:38.680 Team Right so i'm selling that he is the best 1880 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:41.960 scorer on this TEAM because i think this team is 1881 01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.199 starting to is going to want to start taking steps 1882 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:47.800 into improving their win loss column. This year. 1883 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.560 Liam McNeely fooled me once. Last year he might be 1884 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:54.560 fooling me Twice because i'm prepared to, buy this but 1885 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:58.159 buy Or sell liam McNeely being, more important playing a 1886 01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:00.319 more prominent role In the hornets. This season And Then 1887 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:06.279 grayson Allen And. Christian anderson oh that's a two For their. 1888 01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:09.159 That's interesting i'm not A Big christian, anderson GUY but 1889 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:11.000 i know a lot of people. Who Are And GRAYSON 1890 01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:12.920 allen i think is. Phasing out let me. BUY this 1891 01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:15.239 i think that this this should be. A, buy like 1892 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.760 if You're a, hornets fan you want to. Buy this 1893 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:21.680 this is enticing stock for you, right now especially with, 1894 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:25.640 You know ball being out of. The system now You 1895 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:29.520 Have konkin nipple who's probably gonna take a larger. CREATION 1896 01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:34.000 role i, would imagine, you know because you know rookie 1897 01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:36.119 of the year favorite for most of the season. LAST 1898 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:40.159 year i Like What brandon. Miller does he's not a 1899 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:44.359 big pressure point. Offensively either so if You want kawn 1900 01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:46.960 to be this on ball guy who is going to 1901 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:52.800 be taking some of the offensive. CREATION duties i Know 1902 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:57.000 that white is on. This team he's also not like 1903 01:30:57.399 --> 01:31:00.520 the most ideal table. Setter either he's more scored tilted 1904 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:04.039 then he. IS passing i Think if con is going 1905 01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:06.399 to be the guy who this team is going to 1906 01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:09.000 be looking to, to be, you know to kind of 1907 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:12.039 bear the burden of. Creation role you need a Guy 1908 01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.920 like liam McNeely to step up and be the Teammate 1909 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:19.399 To cooper flag that, he was And To derek queen 1910 01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:22.000 and all these other great talent and be that knockdown three, 1911 01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:25.600 point shooter this dynamic scorer who is going to work 1912 01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:29.000 well off of. ANOTHER creator i think you have to 1913 01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:31.920 buy this if You're a. HORNETS fan i still want. 1914 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:33.760 TO believe i still want to invest into the good 1915 01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:37.199 will that this team showed. Last, Season Dan so i'm 1916 01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:41.880 gonna Buy the liam McNeely being significantly Better Than grayson 1917 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:43.760 Allen And. CHRISTIAN anderson i. 1918 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:45.680 Wanna buy it to it really dig in my heels 1919 01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:48.119 after some of the RECKLESS things i said about him 1920 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:52.279 after Last Year's. Summer league are there any other sophomores 1921 01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:55.560 that you wanted to that you think that you'd like 1922 01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:58.520 To DISCUSS before i let, YOU skidattle i. 1923 01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:01.279 Would just give a this is you know For the 1924 01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:06.439 sickos we Talked about. Sikos Earlier cheney johnson For The, 1925 01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:10.520 BROOKLYN nets i think. WAS fantastic i think that he 1926 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:14.640 should be, hands down like ON an. Nba contract brooklyn 1927 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.119 didn't really front a lot of big men out there 1928 01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:19.479 and like no Offense To, danny wolf but he did 1929 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.640 not answer any of the concerns that we had. With 1930 01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:25.399 him outside of just being a floor spacing. Big Man 1931 01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:29.359 chaney johnson did so much of the dirty work For The. 1932 01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:32.359 Brooklyn nets we saw him dive on, the ball, rebound, 1933 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:36.159 pass defend like finish around. THE basket i just think 1934 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:38.239 in terms of LIKE a i, don't know like A 1935 01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.079 da quon PLoud and For The, sacramento kings who has 1936 01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:44.000 gone From the hawks To the kings SURVIVED to nba 1937 01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:47.279 teams ON real, NBA contracts i think that you can 1938 01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.520 look at a Guy Like cheney johnson and, be like 1939 01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:53.800 very okay with him being a part of your rotation 1940 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:57.159 if YOU'RE an, nba team because. He sacrifices he does 1941 01:32:57.199 --> 01:32:59.760 all the things that the cool players on the team 1942 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.880 don't want to do that they. STILL value I just 1943 01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:06.159 i was really IMPRESSED because i didn't have many thoughts 1944 01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:09.840 about him coming Out of auburn SURVIVING, the nba but 1945 01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:13.560 he very much so looks like a like hands down 1946 01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:16.760 should be ON an nba. Contract guaranteed moving forward for 1947 01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:18.119 the rest of his career type of. 1948 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:19.920 A player i. 1949 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:22.800 Felt a lot of the things you said ECHO how 1950 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:26.439 i Feel About javon Small, in memphis especially because sure 1951 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:28.319 now he's, on it they have too many players and 1952 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:30.079 so he's on his Two Way and i'm just he's 1953 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:31.960 A standard. NBA player i mean you look at things 1954 01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:33.680 he was doing defensively as, a passer as. 1955 01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:37.600 A finisher i'm, With, you yeah he's another guy who 1956 01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:40.000 hands down is LIKE an, Nba, player like what are 1957 01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:43.640 we doing other TWENTY nine nba teams who probably need 1958 01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:46.720 some point, guard depth, you know, like ye to, your 1959 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.920 point they have a bunch on they have an embarrassment 1960 01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:51.199 of point guard prospects on. 1961 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:56.600 That, Team, uh steven this was. Absolutely fantastic thank you 1962 01:33:56.680 --> 01:33:58.960 so much for giving me so much of. 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