WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:11.599 It's nice. I'm we're talking about Donald Trump's tariffs. Heuh. 2 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.119 He announced a lot of terriffs this afternoon, spoke for 3 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:18.079 about an hour. It was much more of a campaign 4 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:23.440 rally than it was anything else. And I'm getting your reaction. 5 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:27.600 It's as simple as that, these are gonna have big impacts. 6 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:31.719 If I look at the doll futures for tomorrow morning, 7 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:35.679 don't make you sick. It's as simple as that. But 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.560 he says he's in it for the long game. We 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.000 will see. Let's keep rolling here, see what other people 10 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.920 have to say. I'm gonna go next to Pete in 11 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.840 South Carolina. Pete, what's the mood in South Carolina? Tonight? 12 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.119 Beautiful day. You could have played golf with just a 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:54.640 knife shirt on. Anyway, Are those. 14 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:56.320 Fires finally out down there? Pete? 15 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:59.960 By the way, Oh yeah, yeah, they're gone. They're gone, thankfult. 16 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.719 And we had some good rain up there. The Good 17 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:06.760 Lord took care of it too, along with the first responders. Okay, 18 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.319 I have two things that I don't understand. Number One, 19 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.719 the terriffs don't apply to Like, if let's say I 20 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.959 want to go out and buy a used or a 21 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:26.239 pre owner certified whatever word you want to use. Yeah, Mercedes, Right, Okay, 22 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:32.760 that's a foreign car. But it's already you know, did 23 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.359 it get past the terriff or is there a tariff on. 24 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.200 A pre oh well with the car? No, when the 25 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:43.120 cars imported and was if the car's coming in from Germany? Uh, 26 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.480 and it's it's I don't know. Let's say it's a 27 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.079 it's a fifty thousand dollars or whatever. I don't know 28 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.480 what the price of a Mercedes is, but let's assume 29 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:56.280 it's a fifty dollars Mercedes. You you hit it with 30 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.519 a twenty five percent tariff. Now it's going to be 31 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.680 sixty two thousand dollars. That that's going to increase the 32 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:06.519 price of sixty two. Now if somebody sells that car, 33 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:12.080 and now's this on the used car market or you know, 34 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.759 it's a secondary car. There's no tariffs on something that 35 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:15.800 is sold internally. 36 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.759 No, that's what I thought. Okay. Number two. If you 37 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.120 ever go to Charleston, South Carolina, and you take the 38 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.919 trolley tour, yeah, and they take you down by the 39 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:34.400 Port of Charleston. The biggest exporter of goods going out 40 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:39.159 of Charleston are the BMWs that they make here in 41 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:43.039 South Carolina and they go back to Germany to get 42 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.080 finished and then they can come back into the United 43 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.240 States as an imported car. 44 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.639 How those would be tighted, I don't know, because if 45 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.159 they're coming back into the United States as a final product, 46 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.080 why would they not finish them here? Maybe they would 47 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:03.120 be incentive now now for the manufacturers to say finished. 48 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:06.599 I mean, what are they doing putting like some hold 49 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:06.919 on them? 50 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.800 It's on over there, And I don't know. That's just 51 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.039 you know what we've heard a number of times when 52 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.599 we've had friends come in and we go up and 53 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.560 they want to see Charleston because it's a beautiful, historic town. 54 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:26.280 But the tour guide as all those traders that are 55 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.719 going over to Germany have BMW's in them, that they're 56 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.360 coming back once they're finished. 57 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.479 Yeah, that's interesting to me. Why why they would build 58 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.120 BMW's here then send them. I don't have an answer 59 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.919 to that, but I think we'll think six months from. 60 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.240 Now we'll we all know the answer, Yeah we will. 61 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.719 But anyway, again, a great show. You keep me listening 62 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.639 all night tonight now because I want to hear what's 63 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:50.120 going on. 64 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.960 I think everyone a little bit including myself. Tonight, I'm 65 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.039 looking forward to hearing from people who are in other 66 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.599 businesses and how it's going to affect them. Pete is 67 00:03:57.680 --> 00:03:58.680 always appreciated. 68 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:02.240 One more thing, you know, for me, as you know, 69 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.759 I mean year older than you to the day. Okay, 70 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.199 to me, it doesn't matter as much because I'm not 71 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.879 going to be the one who's going to be paying 72 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.959 all of this after stuff. You know, my grandkids are 73 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:22.360 going to get nailed with all of that, as as 74 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:26.079 is yours. All of the money that's being spent now 75 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.240 that has got to be made up somewhere somehow sometime. 76 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.759 Well there you're talking about I assume you're talking there 77 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.160 about the national debt. 78 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.160 Yeah, that's a different subject for a different night. So 79 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:41.079 on that night. 80 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:47.120 Thanks, good night, all right, I don't want to move 81 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:48.879 people through here. Let me go to Bill and Danvers. 82 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:50.600 BILLI your next night, Sega, right head Bill? 83 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.120 Yeah, Dan, I'm gonna probably next few months, I'm gonna 84 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:56.759 have to buy a new car. I get two hundred 85 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:02.000 and thirty two thousand on this just yeah, and I 86 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.199 had two fifty six on the other one. This is 87 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.839 the second fort edge, and I have a Mustang a 88 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.680 toy in storage and up by a Ford Explorer. So 89 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.879 this car was made up in the flat Rock plant 90 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.240 of Michigan. The Mustang was made there, and I assume 91 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.560 my other Fort Edge probably was, and the Explorers made 92 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:22.319 outside of Chicago. So I'm not overly concerned about it, 93 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.600 and I'm and to be honest with yet, if it's 94 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.480 a thousand to two thousand more or whatever, you know, 95 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.959 was built here, and for every one factory job out there, 96 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.879 there's four jobs that revolve around it, you know. I 97 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:37.040 mean being in certain areas of the country, we don't 98 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:39.959 particularly see it, but there's been areas of this country 99 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:43.759 decimated there. I mean, I've driven through it, and I 100 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.079 got friends in Michigan, and you know, we kind of 101 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.680 have a tendency to wall ourself off sometimes, you know, 102 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.319 certain areas of the country. You know, we go down 103 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:53.879 and the teaching. 104 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.959 You know, I know that you're you're you're a Trump supporter, 105 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.319 and you're not disappointed. 106 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.720 By this, no, because I'm looking at that shot today 107 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.319 and you know, yeah, he puts some tariffs on, but 108 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.120 it's not even close to what some of the other 109 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:12.199 guys are doing. And I think it, be honest with you, 110 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.639 you know, even the ones he put on the first administration, right, 111 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:19.600 Biden didn't take him off, and I think once if 112 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.079 he leaves them on and say another administration comes in. 113 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.120 We all know Washington loves money. So if this thing 114 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.120 comes in right and things on while we'll say the 115 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.560 economy or Trump really tanks and the Republicans get to blame. 116 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.680 Though the Democrats love the money, so I mean, they're 117 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.360 not going to say no and say no more tariffs, 118 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.399 you know what I'm saying. And the people that say 119 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.920 that this is a tax I almost laugh at. Like 120 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.800 Governor I hear in the speech talking about it. Her 121 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.199 budget proposal here in the state has she wants to 122 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.120 raise a sales tax, a candy tax. So all the 123 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:55.199 guys throwing rocks, especially the Blue states, are the biggest 124 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:58.199 taxes in the world. Text they don't like. 125 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:01.800 As I said, the only things that get taxed in 126 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.319 Massachusetts or things that move or things that don't move. 127 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:06.839 Everything else is tax free. 128 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.720 Yeah, and you know, you know it may be a 129 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:13.800 little short at first in some departments. Okay, when you 130 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.360 know you have a little weight on and you haven't exercised. 131 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.759 He is, and he decided to go on a little 132 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:20.920 bit of a diet and change your habit and go 133 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.480 to the gym. You're a little sore after the gym 134 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:27.040 and it eventually goes away. So you know, he's going 135 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.879 to move things around. They can't just be prosperity and 136 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.800 you know, sixty percent of the country and we just 137 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:35.879 waste the other forty percent, you know what I mean. 138 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.560 And you know, you know, you know, I look at 139 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.000 guys they were there today because I looked at some 140 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:44.399 of the stuff. And the guy got up from the 141 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.240 UAW and he said, his whole life, all he saw 142 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.279 was plants closed and decimation the towns. 143 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:50.920 You know. 144 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.519 Now it's not all going to come back, but if 145 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.639 a percentage of it comes back, and we you know, 146 00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:00.639 it's a national security issue too, I mean pharmaceuticals, I 147 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.639 mean we look, I mean, I guess we didn't learn 148 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.800 anything from the COVID thing. As far as you know, 149 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.959 we're not self sustaining in some departments. Yeah, you know, 150 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.519 and it's a big problem. So you get to look 151 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.519 at that also. You want to make at least the 152 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.480 essentials here if we need it, some basic pharmaceuticals. Steal cars, 153 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.319 you know, if we have to make tanks and whatever, 154 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.959 and we keep an industrial base to a degree. We're 155 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:25.680 not going to have what we had in the thirties, 156 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.680 forties and fifties. That's not coming back, but we got 157 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:30.160 to keep some basics, you know. 158 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.159 Okay, look, you're the first Trump supporter who seems to 159 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.399 be pleased with what was done today. 160 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:42.279 I'm not pleased, but I mean, you know, sometimes when 161 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:44.399 you do something and you get beat up on it 162 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.159 later on, you know, it comes out better in the wash. 163 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.200 But you had to lead, you know what I mean. 164 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.279 You know, Roosevelt took heat, you know, when he sent 165 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.440 stuff over and he's gonna maybe think about things, and 166 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:58.759 you know later on he was right. So there's a 167 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.200 lot of instances. Reagan's a lot of heat for a 168 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.759 lot of stuff he did early on. 169 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:03.440 You know. 170 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.559 So this is the thing. You know, sometimes you gotta 171 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:08.320 take your punches. 172 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:08.600 You know. 173 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:10.840 How do you think this is gonna affect your How 174 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:12.720 will this affect your business bill quickly? 175 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:14.759 Well? 176 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.240 I mean, you know it could be done if people 177 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.919 you know, I'm maybe doing as well in some departments 178 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.720 that you know, it could be a tailor off. I'm 179 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.440 fortunate there's a few new stores that have opened and 180 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.120 stuff that a little better. But I'm hoping that maybe 181 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.240 with gas and fuel coming down and hopefully by this 182 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.919 time next year it's down a little bit. That also 183 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.799 put everyone sent that gas goes down as a billion 184 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.840 dollars in the economy, so that may offset some of this. 185 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:45.799 So you know, you're gonna I'm just kind of playing 186 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.639 it by ear and I'll see what happens. But I mean, 187 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:50.679 I don't think we could keep going the way we 188 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.080 were going. You know, we've gotta shake it up a 189 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:53.440 little bit. 190 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.200 It certainly got shaken up today, Bill, Thank you much, 191 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:58.519 as always appreciate your call. 192 00:09:58.639 --> 00:09:58.879 Thank you. 193 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.679 I have a great got a quick break coming up 194 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.799 here in night's I got one line at six one seven, 195 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.879 two five four ten thirty. Got one line at six 196 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.600 one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Try to move 197 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.919 people as fast as I can. I want to sample 198 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.360 as many listeners as possible between now and midnight. And 199 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.919 this is a huge story. This is a story which 200 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:24.960 at a minimum, at a minimum, makes or breaks this administration. 201 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.039 If it works, it will be to his credit, to 202 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:35.919 his unending credit. If it works. If it fails, it 203 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:41.960 will be the end of his effective presidency. Within a 204 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.120 matter of months, so the stakes could not be higher. 205 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.320 Your point of view is welcome coming back with night Side. 206 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.759 You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's 207 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:55.440 news radio. 208 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.519 The White House is just released, as you would expect 209 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.919 the White House to do, a lot of statements from 210 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:07.679 groups and politicians who are supporting this. Again, some of 211 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.679 these groups groups that I really don't know, but just 212 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.080 to pick a couple one, the National Cattleman's Beef Association 213 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:21.240 is all for this. The senior vice president of Government 214 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.600 Affairs said, for too long, America's family farmers and ranches 215 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.320 have been mistreated by certain trading partners around the world. 216 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.519 President Trump is taking action to address numerous trade barriers 217 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:36.759 that prevent consumers overseas from enjoying high quality, wholesome American beef. Okay, 218 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:40.440 so they're they're in favor. At least that group says 219 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:44.000 they're in favor of it. Who else we got here? 220 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:49.120 Steel Manufacturers Association President Philip Bell. President Trump is a 221 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.600 champion of the domestic steel industry, so there's some support there. 222 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.600 Alliance for American Manufacturing President Scott Paul. Today's trade action 223 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.360 prioritizes domestic manufacturers and America's workers. These hard working men 224 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.519 and women been unfair trade cut the ground from beneath 225 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:10.200 their feet for decades. They deserve a fighting chance. So 226 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:14.360 on and on and on. Then it gets into House 227 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:18.360 Speaker Mike Johnson. As you would expect, President Trump is 228 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.600 sending a clear message with Liberation Day, America will not 229 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.360 be exploited by unfair trade practices anymore. These tariffs to 230 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.200 a fair and reciprocal trade and level the playing field 231 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.679 for American workers and innovators. The President understands the free 232 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.399 trade only works when it's fair. Okay, So some significant 233 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:40.919 support there, but again you would kind of expect that. 234 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.879 Let's go next to Jay is in New Hampshire have 235 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.200 followed closely. Next up will be Joe and early to 236 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:46.639 go ahead. 237 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:51.159 Jay, Good evening, Dan, thank you for taking the call. 238 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.759 Right ahead, Thank you. 239 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.080 No, I just actually that last call Bill was great. 240 00:12:58.240 --> 00:12:58.720 He made. 241 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.759 Excellent points that I was going to touch on as well. 242 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.039 So he stole my thunder a little bit. But from 243 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.320 the big support of what the President's doing, I think 244 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:17.919 that what he has in mind and he says it, 245 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.000 but you know, for some reason people kind of don't 246 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.120 hear it. But he's saying this is for national security. 247 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.399 And you know, people, you know, I mean, I get it. 248 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:31.120 You know money. 249 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.960 Money is important, It's important to me. 250 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:33.840 We all need it. 251 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:39.519 But you know, we're so blinded by the almighty dollar. 252 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.120 And I say that with the lower case a almighty. 253 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:47.799 We forget that, you know, if we hit another national 254 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:53.320 emergency of war and this is something that Bill said that, 255 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:58.679 you know, we're susceptible. I mean, we're so vulnerable. We 256 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.960 have no ways, no means of production here in this 257 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.000 country for a lot of things right now and still 258 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.559 and this is after what we supposedly learned from COVID, 259 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.279 but we didn't. You can hear it. You can hear people, 260 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.279 you can hear it. You can hear people in the 261 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.320 negativity about this. You know, they're just they're just concerned 262 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.440 about the dollars and cents of this, but you know, 263 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.840 they're still not seeing the big picture in my mind, 264 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.440 you know, they did not really consider in the long 265 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:32.279 term health of the nation along with their own personal 266 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:34.720 financial situation. You know, it's going to be a little 267 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:35.759 bit of a balance there. 268 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.840 So how concerned are you with the reaction of the 269 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.840 stock market tonight? And what I think is going to 270 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.039 be the reaction of the stock market tomorrow. I mean 271 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.159 there's everyone gets affected by that because either they are 272 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.480 someone who has an IRA or someone who has got 273 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:58.039 a small stock portfolio, or maybe the the pension for 274 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.960 your union is invested in the stock wort. 275 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.080 Yeah, I mean, you know, the stock market goes up, 276 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:08.200 the stark market goes down. You can't live and die 277 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.919 by the stock market every day. You know, there's gonna 278 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:14.440 there's gonna be They're gonna be rises and falls. 279 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:15.960 You know. 280 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:21.320 Again, short term pain for long term gain. That's that's 281 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:22.879 really that's a message. 282 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:23.080 Yet. 283 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.519 But I think as Americans, we have to be honest 284 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:27.639 with you. I think it's a very sad situation. I 285 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:33.080 think this country and it's people, even amongst conservatives, just 286 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.039 very very weak now. I mean we're we're a d 287 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.000 D to the max. I mean, we can't handle any 288 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.840 any kind of stuff for a sacrifice. I mean of 289 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.600 a bid. We have to fight a serious war again, 290 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.679 and I'm talking like on a on a large scale 291 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.000 like like we used to, and that could happen. I 292 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.799 mean there's a lot going on. I mean this country 293 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.840 is just not ready. And you can hear, you can 294 00:15:57.919 --> 00:15:58.200 hear it. 295 00:15:58.440 --> 00:15:59.399 You can hear it tonight. 296 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.120 You can see it in the negativity. I mean, I 297 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:05.919 find it's it's a little bit discourage him. But by 298 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.440 the grace of God, we got a strong president for once, 299 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.679 and I think that's a shock to the system. 300 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:13.679 I think, I think our. 301 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:17.679 People are not used to strong leadership anymore. They can't 302 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.320 even recognize it for what it is and they don't 303 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.840 appreciate it. And that's what he's doing. You know, how 304 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.000 it's going to turn out, I don't know, but you 305 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.000 know what, you know, something has to be done because 306 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.480 that this country is on the ropes, even with with 307 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.759 President Trump's election. I mean, he's making some emergency moves. 308 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:38.559 You know, it's a lot a lot of it's just 309 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.120 temporary bandits. He's doing what he's what he can, you know. 310 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.159 Fair enough, but you got you got it all in 311 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.159 by the way of just looking here, some of the 312 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:53.480 Asian stock market has has dumped overnight, so I suspect 313 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:55.120 it's going to be a rough day in the stock 314 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.960 market tomorrow. And look, he follows the stock market like anyone. 315 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.039 So we'll say, you know, as I say, I think 316 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.079 this is a moment in time where if this works, 317 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.440 and the long run for him is like six months 318 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.000 to a year, because if it doesn't work, within a year, 319 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.039 his numbers will be in the tank and the Republican 320 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.079 Party will have a really rough mid term election in 321 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:25.039 twenty twenty six, and at that point, you know, the 322 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.000 Democrats will be poised to take the White House back 323 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:32.319 in twenty twenty eight because we have a very short 324 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.480 attention span in America and he's I think expects we're 325 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.319 going to have a longer attention span. And I don't 326 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.000 think attention span is going to work on this one. 327 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:44.440 I think America is going to want to look at 328 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.599 some results pretty quickly, so we'll see. I don't disagree 329 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:50.759 with what you said, by the way, I think there's 330 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:52.200 a lot of wisdom in what you had to say. 331 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.039 Thank you, Dan, appreciate the time. 332 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:57.599 Please keep calling the show. I need points of view. 333 00:17:57.839 --> 00:17:59.799 We've had some excellent callers tonight, so I want to 334 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.079 thank everyone, including Jay in New Hampshire. Thanks Jake. We're 335 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.400 gonna take a quick break. We have a newscast coming up. 336 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:07.400 We'll keep you posted throughout the night. The only line 337 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.599 that is open is the one that Jay Jeff just left, 338 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.039 which is six one seven back on night Side after this. 339 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:22.079 Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's news radio. 340 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.160 All right, let's keep rolling here, gonna go next to 341 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.559 who we got next up here? I want to be 342 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.079 as fair as I can ever. Ready, Joe is in Arlington. Joe, 343 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.279 you are next to our nightside. Appreciate your patience. Go 344 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:32.960 right ahead, Joe. 345 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:35.200 Oh hi, Dan. 346 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.839 Yeah, I'm an old international economist, so for me, this 347 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.119 is kind of an interesting sperm and to look at here. 348 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:43.440 Yeah, I love to get your perspective. Go ight ahead. 349 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:47.079 When you say an old international economist, does that mean 350 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.359 that this was the business you were in or is 351 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.799 this something that you have dabbled in as an outdation. 352 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:56.319 No, No, I've got to you know, a top tier 353 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.680 graduate degree from an international economics and finance and I 354 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:02.599 worked at the Federal Reserve for years, and. 355 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.759 Let's have it. Go right ahead. 356 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:11.880 Yeah. So there's basically just three or four points I 357 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.119 wanted to make and then I'll hang up. One is 358 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:20.200 I think, you know, with Mexico and China, I actually 359 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:23.599 agree with what he's doing, but for not for economic reasons. 360 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.240 I mean, any any international economists will tell you that 361 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.160 you're as you've heard that, you know this is suboptimal 362 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.720 and it's going to you know, screw up prices and 363 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:33.759 it's going to be bad for the economy. But from 364 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.319 a political point of view, I mean, you've got an 365 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.079 immigration illegual immigration problem and a Fentanyel problem with Mexico, 366 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.880 and with China. You've got the fact that you know, 367 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.720 the the Chinese to clear economic war on US two 368 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.559 decades ago, and it's about time they're finally waking up 369 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.200 to that fact. I have to give Trunk credit for really, 370 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.279 you know, smashing the maut over the Americans head and saying, 371 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:55.839 you know you're going to play harder. 372 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:56.319 Ball with China. 373 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.359 So I agree with him on that. And also you 374 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.680 getting a lot of fentanyl from China. Apparently they make 375 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:03.319 all them raw materials. 376 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.319 For fanastyes from Mexico. 377 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.720 So so slapping or using tariffs as a weapon against 378 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:13.000 those two countries for separate political reasons, not for economics, 379 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:16.200 but for political reasons, to help with the immigration issue, 380 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.240 to help with the Fennel issue, I'm all for, and 381 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.400 also to help in China, particularly to open up their economy, 382 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.559 to force them to open up their economy, to the 383 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.640 American expert, So I completely agree with him on that, 384 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:29.200 but not for economics. I don't know what he's doing 385 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.160 with Canada. I mean, Canada is not a problem like 386 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:35.119 you know with US, really, I mean, so to me, 387 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.640 that's just bizarre. I think it's just a personal animosity 388 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.240 he had with Trudeau there for a while. 389 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.519 But I will tell you this that the amount of 390 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.640 people who are coming across the border in recent months, 391 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.000 I believe from Canada or is that number has actually 392 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.200 been greater than Mexico. I saw a statistic on that today, 393 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.240 So it could be really he feels that that that 394 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.160 he needs to get the border tightened up in more 395 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.319 cooperation with Canada. I'm just speculating there, but I think 396 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.640 I saw that today that people have figured out and 397 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:10.480 maybe even drug importers have figured out that it's easier 398 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:14.079 to breach the Canadian US border now than it is 399 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.920 to breach the Mexican border. Just don't want to throw that. 400 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:21.319 Out there, Okay, Yeah, I mean, given you know, I'm 401 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.960