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Speaker 2: Welcome in our three of O TB. And right now
it's time to talk to one of our favorites. Guys
we're talking about every single Tuesday at nine am and
have for many years now, and that is Nick Underhill
of New Orleans dot Football. Uh. If you're not subscribed
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as anyone is, which is especially important uh at this
time with the draft right around the corner and hot
rumors flying all around. Nikki, what's up, man? How we
feeling today?
Speaker 4: Doing great? Doing great? How y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Uh? Doing quite well well? Actually, we ended up spending
almost the entire first hour talking about Shuldar Sanders and
I know, I know, And so here's where it's it's weird.
Yesterday we talked about it. Didn't pay it much mine.
I'm kind of like you know, I don't think it's
gonna happen. Saints haven't showed a lot of interest, but
there does seem to be, at least from outside voices,
increasing projections. Right, whether it's Schefter, Kuiper, whoever, there seems
to be a lot of Schuder being mocked to the
Saints at nine. How do I want to frame this question?
It appears that these Saints are doing their homework on
quarterback without a doubt. They keep working out guys, hosting guys. Uh,
it doesn't appear like they've done a lot with Schuld Sanders.
Is this because they don't want people to think that
he's interested, so nobody trades up? Or do you believe
that the New Orleans Saints are truly not interested Cheeter Sanders?
Speaker 4: Well, boy, that hasn't Marc. If that's the case, huh,
I know right, yes?
Speaker 2: To be fair, yes, Like if they've been trying to
say no, all of a sudden everybody thinks they.
Speaker 4: Are Yeah, I mean look, I mean this time here,
everybody has has their own information, and who am I
to say that somebody else has bad information and I
have good information? Or you know, I might be the
guy sitting on bad information.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So I feel like from my point of view, I
feel like a lot of people pointing to him. Coming
here is people from around the league connecting dots and
saying who needs a quarterback? And now that the Giants
are apparently out on him and Cleveland's apparently out on him, well,
where do you go? I mean, it's it's the team
with the lame duck quarterback who kind of very I
don't want to say publicly, but privately, but loudly let
it be known that he wanted out of this situation.
Then that's where you go. And from my point of view,
I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I think when we did the show on the Tuesday
morning of the combine, I told you guys, I would
be surprised if the Stains drafted Shoulder Sanders. As we
sit here today with today the sixth I have no
idea that, you know, ten days before the draft or
whatever it is, I will continue to say that I
would be surprised if they draft them with the ninth pick,
maybe later in the first maybe at forty sure with
the ninth pick, I would be extremely surprised, you know,
And I might hear something over the next two weeks
that changes my mind on that point of view. But
every year, you know, since twenty eighteen, I write one
story before the draft, and over the last what is it,
seven drafts, I've been able to publish it every single
time but one, and right now I am I have
no intention of writing a story about Sugar Sanders.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 6: This has nothing to do for me, at least for
Sanders as a player and like him being worthy of
the ninth overall pick. Nick, this is for me the
Saints right now, with where they're at with Derek Carr,
the contract situation and what they need at number nine.
That's why it didn't make sense to me, because you
can go get a true difference maker at nine, and
if you do want a quarterback, there's going to be options.
Speaker 5: At forty that aren't that much different.
Speaker 6: In my at least my breakdown, then, Shoulder Sanders that
if you took him at nine and Quinn you weres in,
say Jackson Dart fell to forty or Tyler Schuk from Louisville.
Speaker 5: So suck he was. I thought it was great as
a Senior Bowl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it wasn't going to be thirty at
the end of his rookie contract. You just watched it,
If you just watch the tape, I mean, man, he
can he can play football. Man, you got an arm,
he can run, he's big, he's physical. He just you know,
he was a professional college student for a long time.
But he's he's a really good player. But yeah, I mean, look,
I agree with you, and I don't want I've been
reluctant to talk about Shooter because like I like him
as a player, I just don't like him at nine.
And I mean I think that's I think that's okay.
I don't want to be the guy like screaming against
the quarterback or the pick, like you know, in generally speaking,
if you take him at nine, that, yeah, I see
a scenario where he could end up being a very,
very good NFL quarterback. But as I look at him
right now, I just you know, he's a little bit shorter,
there's not a lot of juice in the league. He
doesn't have an elite arm. I mean, I just you know,
I feel like in a different class you aren't even
considering him here. And the other thing that kind of
scares me a little bit about him. And again, this
is probably a BS way to evaluate it. But if
we're talking about Cleveland passing on him and the Giants
passing on him, and that if the Saints pass on him,
we're looking at twenty one Like that's like no one, no,
Like the whole league isn't going to be clamoring to
move up to get the number two quarterback in the
draft if he gets out of the top ten, Like
that's the scenarios. Like I was listening to the Chefter's
podcast yesterday and that was like the scenarios. Isn't that?
Isn't that a little bit telling that that's the conversation
around him, Like when other what other time the second quarterback?
Would the Browns pass on him? With the Giants pass
on them with with Russell Wilson and and who's Cleveland's
planet court? Can you pick it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I think the Browns are just I think
they're having a crisis of confidence when it comes to
that position. I think they're terrified. I'm trying to think quarterback.
But but your point, your point is a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't believe for sure that he's getting
past three. Like I still find that hard to believe
that they're desperate for a quarterback and those guys are
desperate to keep their jobs. I still think that's in play, Like,
I still think that's possible, But I don't know. This
thing's all over the place and and it's very I
don't know, it's just it's just wild, like the variance
on quarterback two in a draft can be that wide.
But yeah, I mean, look, I would just I would
be surprised by I like them. If you could get
them at the end of the first round, I would
feel much better about it because I feel like you
can you can miss on a pick there maybe, or
you know, just have an okay quarterback at that point
and you're okay with it, you know. But I feel
like everyone other than cam Ward at nine feels like
a significant reach, and you know, Dart would feel like
a bigger reach to me than Standards at nine. So like,
if you're going to take one, I hope they're taking
Standards at nine. But like, I would much rather see them.
If they're going to take a swing at a quarterback,
take it at forty or package forty in one of
those thirds, move back up in the first and get
it at the end of the first round. But at nine,
it just all feels way too rich to me. It's
just it's just not a good it's just not a
good QB draft. It just isn't. And the worst thing
I think you can do is force a pick. You know,
I'm of the belief of swinging at a quarterback, but
I don't think you just swing to swing. I think
you got to swing at the right guys and at
the right value. And missing on a on a quarterback
that's if he at nine well, also passing up on
a player that could help your depleted team. It just
feels way way too rich for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, last one on shoulder here and you can be
quick here. But like in your evaluation, because what we
kind of boiled it down to is to whether or
not you like Shooter as a prospect for us, the
biggest thing is how long he holds onto the ball
in your film evaluation. Do you think he was holding
on the ball just because he knew he could and
he could take sex but he could still try to
extend into he wanted to make plays or is it
a lack of processing, Because that's the biggest red flag
to me and the question becomes was it a choice
to hold onto that ball along or was it just
a processing deficiency?
Speaker 4: He looks like some of the me in the NFL,
like he's gonna have to figure out a way to
win from the pocket consistently. And I just don't know
if that's how you play in the NFL anymore, is it.
I mean, like twenty of the best quarterbacks in the
league off, I'll have the ability to move. They got
a little bit of juice in their legs. And offense
lines are getting worse and worse, and I think the
quality of player coming into the NFL is just going
to keep getting worse. And you can't practice anymore like
the way he used to. So you know, I think
quarterbacks have to be able to protect themselves a little bit.
And that's just how the game has changed. You know,
you got to have like a truly truly elite offensive
line to be able to win with with Jared Goff
type quarterback. And you know, I just don't I don't
see that juice in his legs. You know, I just
don't like when he takes off, it isn't it isn't
really there. So yeah, I mean that that's that's a
concern for me if I'm taking a guy top ten,
like I got to see a little bit of that,
and I don't know that I see it, you know.
I think as far as like, you know, I think
he I think he played played a you know, a
style of football there because he knew he could a
little bit. I think that stuff could could speed up,
for sure. I think he I think he's an incredibly
smart player, Like he knows where he should go with
the ball most of the time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think he'll pick up an offense really really fast.
I think he's done trained to be, you know, an
NFL quarterback. Yeah, probably since he was you know, a
very young young man, you know. So, so I don't
think it's the processing thing. I think he knew he
could get away with it, but you know, the the
just to kind of reframe that a little bit, Yeah,
I think I think he's somebody that has to win
from the pocket. And and I just think in general,
like it not, it's not a shutter standards day, it's
in general, like, I don't I don't think that's what
I'm targeting. If I'm if I'm spending significant capital to
to you know, rebuild my team. I can go get
you know, a pocket passer with an average arm and
free agency every year, and it's not going to cost
me the number nine pick. So it's just that that
that's that's the biggest that's the biggest hurdle for me.
I think anything else, you know, the the the lack
of you know, elite arm strength or anything like that,
I think that can be overcome if if you have
that plusibility in your legs. But like, I don't think
he has a plus to neither one, and it just
doesn't add up for me.
Speaker 2: Not So with that in mind, the kind of you're
talking about earlier, at forty, there could be multiple options available,
and we know the Saints have worked out and hosted
plenty of these guys. Who would be your dream quarterback
at forty? Would you take a quarterback at forty?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I would definitely take one of forty. I don't dream
as a stretch.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, like, who would you be? Like, Like,
let's say they're all available, Okay, which is unrealistic, but
let's just say that whoever you end up choosing, for
whatever reason, ended up falling like the other guys got
to like, who would out of your your ers, your Shuck,
your dart mill for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, Chucker Dart for sure. Yeah, Shucker Dart for sure.
I think I think, you know, I think those two
and look, Shuck's age is definitely a concern. But at forty,
if you can give me a league average quarterback on
a rookie contract for a while, like that's fine. And
and you know their their peaks are a little bit later.
You know, obviously, I don't think you're looking at that
guy is like your franchise quote unquote quarterback, but he
can be, you know, a very good placeholder as you
continue to look around. So that's probably where I go
on that. I think his upside is probably I don't know.
I mean I might predict today if I add to that,
he's gonna have a better NFL career than Dark. I mean,
I just get more excited watching him. You know, the
arm angles and you know he can make a play
drift into his left and you know, throwing across his
body around the defender, you know, from from a lowered platform,
like he just he just does everything. And if he
wasn't I you know, forty three years old or whatever,
he is like you would be really excited watching him
play football. But once you look back to that in
the injury history, yeah, I mean obviously, you know, I
think there's a lot of red flags there, but I
think because of that, you can get a little bit
more value out of that picket forty. You know, one
thing I'll say to the people, you know, listening and
wanting to decipher reporting. If there's a report on a
prospect and there are four NFL teams listed in one report,
that is not coming from a team, that is an aglayer.
So I mean, I think any story where where it's
like he he visited the Jets and now he's going
to meet with the Titans, Bengals and Bills and the
meeting was great. I mean, the team isn't putting out
information about somebody else. You know, they aren't saying, oh
he met with us, now he's headed to the Jets
like that isn't you know? That's somebody doing. Look, a
lot of reporting gets done off agents. They're they're great sources,
they're incredibly knowledgeable, but they also have an agenda. And
if you talk to any one of these agents for
one of these quarterbacks, nobody else's client is going in
the first round and they're gonna get everybody fired and
their client is the one that should go in the
first round and needs the savior of the organization. I mean,
that's just you.
Speaker 1: Know, that's their job.
Speaker 4: That's what they're doing, you know, And you got to
build up some hypes this time here. But yeah, I
mean I won't overreact to like, you know, stuff like that.
You know, it's because most of the time that stuff
is not like a team isn't gonna put out a
press release essentially, is what that is. When something gets reported,
they're gonna put out a press release that you know,
Milroe had a great meeting with the team, and then
you know all this other stuff. So I take that
with the granted. So but look, the thing to takes
from that is that they're around him and they're working
them out and they're interested in it, you know, at
least to some degree, and that they're continuing to do
the work on the quarterbacks, and you know, he could
be an option at some point if you know, they
took the time to go out there and work them out.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the biggest I think Milroe is still
kind of the biggest, like upside guy because he has
the closest thing to a superpower. He just doesn't seem
to have maybe some more of the traditional quarterbacking skill
set that would need to develop obviously. Uh, there's a
lot of in the chat nick like just trade back,
just trade back, but like people seem to forget. I
mean that takes somebody being willing to trade up. And yeah,
right now, maybe somebody wants to trade up to eight.
They really believe the Saints are going to quarterback. But
what do you see a scenario in which the Saints
could somehow incentivize finding a partner, Like what would be
the leverage for them to be able to find a
partner's moved back?
Speaker 4: It probably should or I mean, like if they don't
want him and he's sitting there, I mean I think.
Speaker 2: Nobody behinds him really needs him.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean that's the problem. Yeah, and it's
a weak draft, you know overall. And I like the
idea of trading back, like if you're talking about Tyler
Warren at nine, or if you can drop back to
I don't know what Seattle eighteen whatever like and you
can drop back and you can you can maybe get
Lovelim plus you know, a cornerback, you know, because you're
picking up another yeah, another second round or fifty something
like that. Like it feels like it feels pretty flat,
you know, from a certain point nine until whenever you're
doing one of these mock drafts, there's like twenty guys
that you feel good about, like because they're all in
the same range. And yeah, I think you can move
back and get a very similar player and pick up
another pick. I mean, that's my favorite scenario right now.
If you aren't in love with, you know, the quarterback,
you know, otherwise you're you're sitting and picking and you know,
war might be there maybe you know, maybe Gente, maybe
maybe Banks. You know, some of those guys. I would
feel good about any of them at that spot, but
I feel better about about you know, coupling up and
dropping back, you know, nine ten picks and getting another one.
But yeah, the problem is is is if everybody sees
the draft the same way, you got to find somebody
that has to have somebody that thinks the person like
right behind you is going to take them. And you know,
I think everybody's probably seeing the draft the same way.
Speaker 5: Niko.
Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking about quarterback position here a ton
because you know the Saint's history and not drafting first
round quarterbacks and it's exciting and all that. But if
if you had to right now pick the most important
position where the Saints had to get it right in
this upcoming draft, where would you go?
Speaker 4: That's interesting, that's a really good question. If like, if
they're going to take like the guy like the position
I feel like and everyone I'm sure the chat's gonna
be pissed about the Like if you could get a
game changing tackle and you get them and you take
them right there, I would love to pick and then
you're solidified. You have your bookend tackles, you got, you
got Fuaga, you got whoever. On the other side, Trevor
Penning is in the last year if it's contract, and
then you can just kind of start building it out
from there. The other one, obviously, like if you're taking
a quarterback at nine, Like if you miss on that pick,
that that might be that might be it Like that
might that might thank you. You know, that's that's a
tough one to overcome. That's a tough one to start
your tenure out on. Is you know, the the rookie
head coach because you're gonna tie yourself to that for
at least probably two years before you're willing to Andy
daltonhum and you know then then where you're going from there,
so you know that that's the thing. It's not just
like yeah take it, who care? No, Like if you
take the quarterback at nine and you missed like your
submarining damn near everything, and I just don't think that's
a place where you can afford to haven't missed out
early in the draft. But for me, like I would
really really like to see him take a tackle at nine.
I think it would be a great pick. I think
you're investing in it every time you hear more talk.
It's about building the trenches. You know, if you get
those really good, really solid, and you have your two
book und tackles, I feel like playing football in general
over the next five years is gonna be a whole
lot easier.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So uh Nick Unhreill is currently texting us videos of
Tyler shuck. But he's so old. He's so old, Jake,
it's two.
Speaker 6: So he'll be twenty six in September this upcoming year.
That's crazy, I mean, I get it. But also, let's
say he plays eight years in the NFL at a
high level, semi high level, he'll be thirty four.
Speaker 5: Who cares?
Speaker 2: Like, who cares?
Speaker 6: If he plays ten years, he'll be thirty six. Think
that's okay, It is okay. Gino Smith just got a
new deal. He's thirty four years old. Dak Prescott's thirty one,
Baker's thirty, Jared Goff's thirty. I don't think that's that
big of a deal, not like to not draft somebody
because he If you get one contract, solid contract out
of a.
Speaker 2: Guy, you feel good about it. If you get two,
you feel great about it.
Speaker 6: So like, if he got two contracts, let's say, let's
put it at nine years and let's use his age
in September twenty six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty five, Okay, got nine years out of the guy.
Speaker 2: I guess the fear is that it takes four or
five years to but to learn, but I guess it does.
Speaker 5: But that has been.
Speaker 6: Proven wrong a little bit because of and Taysaey was
talking about it during the break with Jaden Daniels, with
Bo Nicks, with some of these quarterbacks that have all
this experience in college because they got the extra year,
the learning curve wasn't as great because they had played
so many games in college. Yeah, they had seen so
many different situations in college. They kind of went through
some of their growing pains in college, and they're ready
to play sooner right now, more than they've ever been before,
and so you know, I don't know that his age
would really keep me away from him, knowing that if
he played a decade in the NFL, he would still be,
you know, thirty six years old, which you know, Matthew
Stafford's thirty six, Russell Wilson's thirty six.
Speaker 5: As I said, Geno Smith's thirty.
Speaker 2: Four, something good, Chuck at forty seems unexciting, but maybe
that's more of a byproduct of he just wasn't as
exciting as the college all these as these other guys. Well,
it's mm hmm, it's a little bit of it's a
little bit of some of the bubble of playing at Louisville.
Like Louisville is a really good team this year, Yeah,
they were. They were good. They had really good moments.
I mean, they beat the hell up out of Clemson,
but they also didn't have looked really good. They also
have some inexplicable losses, Like how did like they they
they still ended up what nine and four? I think,
I think so, And that's with like beating Clemson, I
don't so, I h but so did all miss you know,
to be fair with Jackson dart uh Colorado, Colorado a
ton of games. Definitely a lot of people they were
going to win, including the Bowl game where they had
all their players playing.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 2: I mean the guy that went and won a national championship,
Will Howard, We're not even talking about him in the
first three rounds. And again, nobody played it in the
national championship. Riley Leonard, nobody's talking about in the first
six rounds. I love Ryan Leonard. You want to talk
about leaving to beaver. Jeez, what a wholesome kid, great
human being. Yeah, he just looks like a he just
looks like a little super nice and responsible, little twelve
year old eagle scout. He's been stretched to six', five.
Speaker 5: Yeah because he's he's a large humans. Giant, yeah nobody really.
Speaker 2: You don't think that when you watch it gives off like,
young precocious kid.
Speaker 6: Energy and also something that That nick was talking about
about the quarterback position and having to be able to
have a little bit of an ability to at least.
Speaker 5: Sap the pocket definitely is that.
Speaker 6: You don't have to be a four or, five four
six even four seven guy because pocket movement and being
athletic and pocket movement is a skill as.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah to be able to find the.
Speaker 6: Window and, again LIKE i played with two that were
never going to beat anybody in a foot. Race, yeah
and but they were so good in the pocket and
the fear is so, quick and they found the windows
to be able to get the throw off and it
wasn't they didn't have to leave the.
Speaker 5: Pocket it is a true.
Speaker 6: SCOUT i Think garrettusmeyer is really good at this, too
Because Garrett utsmeyer is not a.
Speaker 5: Runner hell we were Begging garrett to run sometimes last.
Speaker 6: Year but within the, pocket he is super, athletic and
there's some really athletic quarterbacks that don't have that skill.
Set so there is a difference in. That and, so
like you, know To nick's, POINT i don't Think sure
has either one of those things right. Now but you
can be very athletic in the pocket and be a
five flat.
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Speaker 1: Eight welcome in to the best morning Sports this show
around off The bench With hester and T.
Speaker 2: Bob what's? That and y'all welcome back to otb. This
maybe it's a, concern Amea. Chuck he has only had
one good year of stats in, college but it was
his most recent, year so there is something to be
said for. That somebody who got better as as the
years went. On, Anyway, uh let's start with a QUICK
tata in the Organ Dire WOLVES Tata story of The Day, Day.
Speaker 1: It's time For TAITE'S Nfl story of The Day, day
your daily dose OF nfl news From Taylor sharp.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 7: Bob The saints may have not signed a new tight
end in the, offseason but their division rival has The
Carolina panthers are Signing Colin granger From Coastal. Carolina who
Is Colin? Granger, well he's a six to nine power
that comes From Coastal. Carolina seven point two points a,
game four and a half rebounds per, game and, look
we're gonna see what he's. Got they were bringing him.
In The cowboys did this not too long ago With Rico.
Gathers you've seen, it, Obviously Antonio gates is probably the
most famous one to do. This But Colin granger gonna
get a shot with The Carolina. Panthers that tight end A.
Speaker 2: Lonngers since we don't allow you to talk, sports would
you like to talk About COLLIN S? GRANGER i see
you in the chat say we don't allow you to
talk about. SPORTS i, mean so give me Your Colin.
Granger Take Colin.
Speaker 8: GRAINGER i think it'd be a great.
Speaker 5: Pick.
Speaker 2: TAKE i saw a picture of, Him, yeah and he
has a he had an intensity on his. Face. Uh
take THAT i thought was. Interesting the you, know the
only real take On granger is it's never been about
the size with basketball. Players it's the, mentality, like, yeah
he's six,' nine, He's huge he's a. Massive athlete but
basketball players aren't the dogs that football. Players are it's
Exactly What chris long talked about all those months ago
when they had this DISCUSSION about nba players IN the nfl.
And whatnot, so yeah to, your, point also like played
a sport you've never played to becoming. A, professional yeah
we're never gonna Hear From colin. Granger again went to.
Speaker 6: Three Different, Schools Ohio, western Carolina And. Coastal carolina averaged,
seven points, four boards and half of an assist.
Speaker 5: This year there.
Speaker 7: You, Go yeah gathers, Was okay like like to kewboys
tried to use him in some like goal.
Speaker 3: Line situations he.
Speaker 7: COULDN'T block i mean he got his ass beating the
run game like that's why he didn't last IN. The
nfl to your point about, the PHYSICALITY and i mean
he was what six seven, Six, eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah it is truly all about the mentality at that
position if you want to be a tight end Like.
Speaker 5: Even Gates like gates was a. Willing blocker was it
the best thing? He, did no. It wasn't but he
was a willing blocker and could do it. Well enough
and he was just a mismatch nightmare for.
Speaker 6: Any, Defense Uh jimmy graham kind of, Same situation like
we've seen it work, out before but more times. Than
not AND so, i, mean yeah six nine two thirty,
sounds great but two thirty is a little light in
the pants to be an elite.
Speaker 2: Tight, END yeah i mean the guys we're, talking about we're.
Two fifty so yesterday it was said that dire wolves.
Were reintroduced they were de extincted from The, planet earth
extinct different ten thousand. Years ago a laudry you have done?
The research is?
Speaker 8: This, TRUE yeah i mean it's like you, said earlier
it's kind. Of true like they just took their closest
relative and TOOK some dna from a thirteen thousand year
old tooth and a seventy two thousand year old.
Speaker 2: Skull of a. Dire wolf, oh yeah it's kind, of
tight and.
Speaker 8: They just kind of edited the genes from this closest
relative and now they kind of have. DIRE wolves i
don't really feel like it's fully A. Dire oh and
then they put like the they had like a surrogate,
carry it so.
Speaker 2: They put it in like a.
Speaker 8: Regular, wolf yeah that. Makes sense and then it carried
it and gave birth, to it but we were talking about.
It earlier it's like if it's kind of is it?
Speaker 2: Really BACK like i. Don't know so that's where it
is kind of, interesting though is how Has the internet
just desensitized us to any sense? Of wonder like is
it not crazy that we're out HERE editing dna and
genomes and everything like that is, still.
Speaker 8: Fattish insane the puppies are, super cute they are, Super
cut they're.
Speaker 3: LIKE adorable i don't.
Speaker 2: Think we'll be able TO fully i don't know if
we'll be able to fully say whether or not dire
wolves are back until these things. Are grown like if
this thing is like ten, feet long, you know just
a just a, giant something truly, Ancient something Game of,
throne style then it will feel like dire wolves.
Speaker 8: Are back so they're living in a two thousand acre
site out an undisclosed location and closed by ten foot.
Speaker 2: Tall fencing so maybe they get. SUPER giant i.
Speaker 8: Don't know two male dire wolf pups were Born in
october and a female was Born.
Speaker 3: In january they want to bring.
Speaker 8: Back mammoths, now Mammoths the dodo Bird and. Tasmanian tigers uh, carrys.
Speaker 2: Tiger sounds carries has many tiger looks. Pretty stupid what
about a saber tooth that'd, be cool?
Speaker 5: Sab cool why does it? Look stupid look?
Speaker 2: IT up i see if, you agree maybe maybe.
Speaker 5: You don't it's like a little coyotie wolf. Looking, tiger
bro you know it doesn't like.
Speaker 2: That tight it looks stupid like there's a reason why.
Win extinct it's ending with the. Dodo bird uh?
Speaker 3: That thing it just looks. Very, scary, YEAH bro i
got a dog in my neighborhood looks just.
Speaker 2: Like that it's upsetting. Like that doesn't, like IT but
i guess, you know, then again maybe it's kind of like.
A hyena, YEAH yeah i mean. It's ugly it looks
like you got hit with the. Ugly stick it's definitely.
Not cute, no hell no alvosis as many tigers a cool.
STREAKING animal, i mean they don't. Look cool you know it,
is cool you know it. IS cool a, freaking platypus?
Speaker 8: IS it?
Speaker 2: I mean what a just weird mashup of. Different animals
aren't they like poisonous? As? Well randomly is it having
like a beaver tail and a duck beak and all
this other stuff. Wasn't enough i'm pretty sure they're also,
like poisonous or maybe like, komodo dragons they got like
bacterial bites.
Speaker 5: Or, something.
Speaker 2: Platypus now there's a stupid animal out. There life.
Speaker 6: I'm definitely thinking a saber tooth cat would be the
coolest thing to bring back outside of.
Speaker 5: The, wolf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, TERRIFYING um i think a.
Speaker 8: Wooly mammoth would be kind.
Speaker 3: Of scary.
Speaker 2: They're venomous platypus. Are venomous how about that cool platypus
glowed in. The dark is? That true you think a
woly mammoth would?
Speaker 8: Be?
Speaker 2: Scary yeah?
Speaker 3: Why so isn't it bigger than?
Speaker 8: AN elephant i, don't know to, BE fair i think, if,
something honestly elephants are.
Speaker 3: Pretty scary how about.
Speaker 2: This terrifying bring back? A, megalodon yeah, you know megalodons
are still around, to YOU but i actually think.
Speaker 6: So too but, oh really one Just Faught, jason state
and the only evidence people have, is like we haven't.
Speaker 3: Seen One and, i'm like you are kind of.
Speaker 2: DOING evidence, I know, i'm saying but you are doing
the exact flat earth logic that we were making fun,
of earlier like.
Speaker 3: You just did the exact. Same thing it's, not, FLAT
yeah i seem like satellite and stop all.
Speaker 2: Of it, BASICALLY say i, don't know we haven't. Showed
me show me where there's not a, you know we haven't.
Seen one that doesn't mean it's.
Speaker 8: NOT there i feel Like the earth, being yeah it's
more proven, than uh the megalodon because they say that sense.
Speaker 2: Of evidence it's a big ass fish to.
Speaker 7: Be high well we haven't, seen It but, i'm, like
yeah don't you, say that like ninety three percent of
the ocean yet even, Seen yet, like yeah we don't
know if you're just coming across.
Speaker 3: This thing or like we know more about space than
we know about, the.
Speaker 2: Ocean except like we know that a megalodon wasn't like
a super like deep dark ocean, faring, Fish right LIKE maybe, I.
Speaker 7: Agree and you're like and, they're, like okay well the
food chain evolved over time and they, Got extinct like
what if the fish evolved at the.
Speaker 5: SAME time i.
Speaker 2: Think you're Using flat earth logically maybe so maybe maybe
megalodons exist. Out There as, JAKE said, i mean.
Speaker 3: This is more of just me like wanting them to be.
Speaker 2: Out There yeah.
Speaker 8: I'm not i've actually was very clear Earlier that i'm
not a.
Speaker 2: Flat earther nobody's flatter earthers here except sure.
Speaker 3: He's Also A holocaust yeah just, you, know yeah.
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Played With, Slash, Watch, Punters kickers. Returners. Excluded Uh ron
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Speaker 5: OF those i.
Speaker 2: Don't know i'll just read what the idea behind? Why
megalodons and then this is why people say they're. Not,
alive you this is what you have.
Speaker 8: To argue yet tell me why they.
Speaker 2: Are, alive yeah That's what. I'm saying but this is
what you Have to this is what you're gonna have.
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would leave telltale bite marks on other large, green animals
and their teeth would continue literlying the ocean floors in
their tens, of thousands not to mention that as a warm,
Water species meglodon would not be able to survive in the.
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