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<v Speaker 1>Happy Monday, everybody. It's the world famous Ben and Skin show.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get going here, did you guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>good weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, No, no, now that I look back on it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a pretty average weekend. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of free time. I haven't had free

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<v Speaker 1>time in a long time. So I had some free

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<v Speaker 1>time Friday night. Okay, after driving back from Oklahoma?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what'd you do? I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I do, I do we I had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of beers, and I watched the Lakers and the Clippers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that game too, Katie. You're not able to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Laker games, are you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a recreational activity for me. It is for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the most non MAVs games I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, I don't. I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I ca oh, look, the Bucks are playing the Hornet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll sit down and watch this for three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do find myself following Luca out to the

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast, and I love watching him and Lebron play. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're a fun team to watch because they've

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<v Speaker 1>got my other guy, Austin Reeves, who is a baldon.

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<v Speaker 2>This bit. Have y'all know you've seen him play?

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<v Speaker 1>Austin is actually really cool. You've watched him play the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. He's it's like, is uh is your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on the MAHLF channel making him do this?

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<v Speaker 2>No? This is okay, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I'm so I watch a lot. I'm not breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news to anybody. I watch a lot of NBA. I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy watching Austin Reeds.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But your talented mister ripley bit it. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you guys seen that?

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<v Speaker 1>How did we not get him in that trade? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been nice. We could have had him

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he's not a throw in?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they and and actually, I mean, honestly, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look. For the last two years, teams

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<v Speaker 1>have been trying to get Austin Reeve from the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not coming off. There was still room for

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<v Speaker 1>them to throw him in. There was room for them

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a lot of things in. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so much I would feel so much better. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I ended up watching another Laker. I watched that

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<v Speaker 1>game and then I went back and watched it again.

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<v Speaker 1>They played the Clippers again. Right, so last night, I

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<v Speaker 1>think last night, So I got up and watched that

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<v Speaker 1>this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, we getting a shot back. He looks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got him listed at two thirty. Now. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's lost forty pounds, but he's looking slim.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks good. He looks really good. You know, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it takes it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time they get to the playoffs, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>his team, but it just takes a while, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just come in and go all right, Lebron, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my team.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming off an injury, but that'll happen naturally over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple weeks. And then by the time and

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<v Speaker 1>they're the number two seed.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like an accepting eighties dad of homosexuality when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to other people watching the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand it, but it doesn't bother me that you do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't understand how you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, let's talk through it, dad.

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<v Speaker 1>So I fell in love with Luca, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>love Luca the player.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if Luca had demanded a trade, I would hate him,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did not. He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He lost one hundred and ten million dollars in that trade.

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<v Speaker 1>He never wanted to leave it. He was sad for

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<v Speaker 1>about three weeks. And so I'm like, dude, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Luca fan. I can't just turn it off all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden because he's wearing a different jersey. Okay, do

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what's happening here? The whole Luca It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Luca's choice. Is the whole thing with the dad in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties saying I guess God made him that way, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and by the way, you're not the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few other people in my life who were

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<v Speaker 3>that way, and I've I've just it's almost like you're

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<v Speaker 3>like driving and peering into Luca's house when he's with

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<v Speaker 3>his new love.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's another guy out by the tree, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watching it. And what do you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing on television? Happen is this like? And what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of love is it? Because I'm confused by your comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you peeking in on gay love?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>If Luca and the MAVs are simultaneously, I'm switching back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. That's I'm going back. I love them both.

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<v Speaker 1>I love It's to me, it's two Christmases. Mam and

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<v Speaker 1>dad got a divorce again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not judging you. I just don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I couldn't you couldn't enjoy Luca the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Okay, it's a big because, big problem because of

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the Lakers, or because history of Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the Lebron thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude at forty or whoever old he is playing as

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<v Speaker 1>good a basketball as he did and maybe better than

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<v Speaker 1>his last MVP or whatever in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if those last one I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>those two years compared his numbers are.

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<v Speaker 2>Better at forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't let me just let me just go on

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<v Speaker 1>record here. I don't understand Lebron hate. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>all have things that we hate for whatever reason we

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. But I'm like, all right, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>step back and look at the entirety of what this

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<v Speaker 1>human has done. He is probably, for sure in basketball

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<v Speaker 1>until Wemby, the most hyped athlete of all time. He

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<v Speaker 1>was on the cover of Sports Illustrated at seventeen, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the chosen one.

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<v Speaker 2>He has exceeded.

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<v Speaker 1>All reasonable expectations for being the most hyped play ever ever.

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<v Speaker 2>He smashed him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's setting every record, and he's one of the ten

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<v Speaker 1>best players in the league in his forties, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>turned himself into a billionaire. He's never been involved in

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<v Speaker 1>a scandal, at least one that he's been caught for.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, I don't who's hating him? Oh man, I

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<v Speaker 1>get people all the time, like I just can't stand

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<v Speaker 1>that Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of it, and I see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Could could it be Dwayne Wade hate that spilled over

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<v Speaker 1>because of the coughing incident?

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<v Speaker 2>Or could it be the I'm taking my talents?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's aware, you know, the whole I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the face the NBA, but I'll take Jordan's number.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And but even that, like that whole thing becoming about

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<v Speaker 1>Steven A. Smith is nauseating. Yeah, Like Steven A. Smith

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<v Speaker 1>made that about him and it's just gross. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, it's where it sucks. I Mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>try so hard not to watch wrestling, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>finds me.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, wrestling had a big weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Seena turned heel man. I can't believe I've been begging

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<v Speaker 4>someone to bring this up this whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Skinning the platform is yours. How

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<v Speaker 2>is this effecting?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it was a huge night, John Cena.

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<v Speaker 4>People have been wanting this for twenty years, had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea was actually gonna happen. And the Rock, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys have to watch it. The Rock was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain this because Mark Followell called its absolute cinema.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say I didn't realize what I was watching

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<v Speaker 4>while I was watching it, but Mike kind of freaked out,

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<v Speaker 4>and I saw Twitter freaking out. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>so this was a much bigger deal than I realized.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's him versus the Rock or what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's on the Rock side now, so the Rock, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the Rock has been bad. He was going to Cody

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<v Speaker 4>Roads trying to get Cody Roads to come to his side,

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<v Speaker 4>and John Cena was pretending to be on Cody Roads side.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes in for a hug for Cody Roads, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I got you, man, and he sees the Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>They look at each other.

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<v Speaker 4>The Rock does a slice the throat thing and Johnsona

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<v Speaker 4>punches him and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Skinny john c fake punch the Rock.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but because the Rock was in the shadows telling

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<v Speaker 3>him now's the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing fantasy world because I didn't realize the

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<v Speaker 1>Rock was a bad guy. And I'm sitting here going

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<v Speaker 1>so wait, the wrestling world accepts the guy that makes

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<v Speaker 1>all the cute movies with Kevin Hard is a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you separate it? You separate the artist from the art.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a play. It's not real. It's not real.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a play. They should they should have w W

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<v Speaker 2>E be nominated for Tony Awards, right would it's fun?

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are missing out.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, fun, it's fun. Do they ever break out

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<v Speaker 2>in the song? They should? Would be great?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be wrestling musical guitar out playing. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>real American speaking of music. It reminds me of the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>To start Time movies. Right now, you're right, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>right time to do one poor time quick effan with

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<v Speaker 2>I show You're gonna ruling it if you except with

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<v Speaker 2>a similar sweet pursuing it, hold out shaw shank through

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<v Speaker 2>the sewer. Kid now what chilling at the eagle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing it. Three o'clock on the dock. Got a

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<v Speaker 2>habit for my house, a goot status, Howard starting to

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<v Speaker 2>get craddic shows that up multiplied like a rabbit to

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<v Speaker 2>then zone out, crank it up, beat the habit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on everything out with the friends, rocking on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>My home's head talking on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh baby by all the radio, all right. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>As I was getting ready to, uh, you know, rolling

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, I was riding up in the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>looking at social media, and I saw that Jimmy Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>is retiring from Fox Sports after thirty one years. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy is leaving out. Have we confirmed that he's gone

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<v Speaker 1>as of now? Like he will not be there for

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<v Speaker 1>this next season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it looks like. That's what the press release

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made it seem like, Oh, there's a press

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<v Speaker 2>release for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they press release, okay, because all I saw was

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<v Speaker 1>just a story of him being on Cowered and the

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<v Speaker 1>quotes I read it made it sound like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't see anything official.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, announcing your retirement on Colin Cowhard is like celebrating

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<v Speaker 3>your birthday party at the landfill. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 2>That experienced last Friday, Scar or do you have no No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great time. Okay, no, I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud of myself. Oh it was wonderful. Well and good

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<v Speaker 2>work landfill turner. Great, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the name of the new Taylor Sheridan show. I

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<v Speaker 1>land Hill Landfill. Man, it's just Kevin standing out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the Melissa landfill looking strong out their world.

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<v Speaker 2>You need help it on that table.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know everything in the world that I look at

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I look at through the Luca lens.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help it. Yeah, you gotta get off that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't help it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just still can't believe that we traded Luca, and

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<v Speaker 1>what to compare it to. Like initially, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that magnitude. So to me, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like Jerry getting rid of Tom Landry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we'd get rid of Jimmy was a

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's just that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you're right, it's just that it's been uh

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, that's a fair point to make. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think, is that a curse that we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>embark upon, you know what I mean? Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty year curse? Right, But that's unfair to look

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<v Speaker 1>at it through that lens now because.

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<v Speaker 2>This may end up working out. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting about your curse theory, yep, is if the

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks were to win a championship, it'd probably be in

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<v Speaker 1>the next two years, right, And they did win a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl with Switzer, that's right. Okay, So I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even enjoy that Super Bowl without Jimmy being there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hated it, but there's no fun having

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<v Speaker 1>that parade. That's irrational emotions speaking in me, like, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>we were not there yet. But I am looking Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're probably looking at a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So that do you how often do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the Luca trade way more often.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like, I'm wrestling. I'm watching wrestling now, Ben,

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<v Speaker 4>just to get my mind off of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what if Luca comes walking into the wrestling ring,

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<v Speaker 4>There have been sports guys just walking into the ring

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<v Speaker 4>doing things. So yeah, and I I try to watch Lakers.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Katie said earlier, he doesn't understand. And I'm kind

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<v Speaker 4>I will try to watch it because I love Luca.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to still watch him play. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to turn it off. Yeah, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that hard for me to watch these regular

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<v Speaker 1>season games. But as I'm watching them, I am thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks. And then I start developing rooting interests during

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<v Speaker 1>the any playoffs Baseball, NFL, as stories unfold, they become

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me. And so as I'm watching you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be really weird because I've never, for any reason, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>under any circumstance, rooted for the Lakers at any moment ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're in the playoffs, if I'm rooting for Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be ostensibly rooting for the Lakers. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting there watching these games thinking about going. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how I'm gonna feel when that's happening, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be what if they play each other? Oh yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if they play each other, then I'm simply sorry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to root for Luca to fail. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give an example, I love rooting for Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 2>And the style and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had any I'm not like some big Warriors fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but once those series get going, I find myself rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for him because Steph is just irresistible in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So for Jimmy, like he has lived a great life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a great career choice to go into television.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it's been thirty one years. All that

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<v Speaker 1>TV money. He doesn't have to work year round. He

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<v Speaker 1>flies in like he just flies in, flies out. He's

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<v Speaker 1>boat man god drinking Heinekens on a boat. He did

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<v Speaker 1>it right, Florida and fishes for marlins. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>what do you guys think he makes per year a

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<v Speaker 1>million or more? Oh, I was gonna say five or six.

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<v Speaker 3>He offers nothing. I mean, in the last five to

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<v Speaker 3>ten years, he's offered nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I agree, And I think honestly, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet the Fox people are pumping their fists because it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get rid of it. I mean, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of old guys sitting around making that show suck.

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<v Speaker 1>They may have squeezed him out too, they may have

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting to renegotiate. He's like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it for that, So that may have led to this.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's so many people nobody has time to make

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<v Speaker 2>Now. They got nine people out on the sets like what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the football.

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<v Speaker 1>The football takes it to a new level of ridiculousness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's six guys and they just drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Sucks, dude, Terry Branshaw. Seriously, man, good lord? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next, let's turn our attention to Hollywood. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Hollywood Shuffle where you going to take

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<v Speaker 3>Last night was the Oscars. We had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>odd stories, but the star of the show was your host.

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<v Speaker 2>That's next.