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Speaker 2: Serenity. Is it a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to meet you as well. Thanks for
Speaker 3: having me.
Speaker 1: So I was driving in the car with my wife
Speaker 1: earlier and I was like, should I just hit her
Speaker 1: with some dumb fucking.
Speaker 2: Joke right off the bat?
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, did you think it
Speaker 1: was fate that you became a porn star with the
Speaker 1: last named Cox? And I was like, well, she'll definitely
Speaker 1: get it, but it's not funny. So I let me
Speaker 1: start and ask you, how did you initially get into
Speaker 1: the adult entertainment industry in whatever form that was, whether
Speaker 1: it was camming first or going right into scenes only fans,
Speaker 1: whatever you wanted to do. What was the thing that
Speaker 1: you jumped into where you crossed the line from vanilla
Speaker 1: to the world we live in.
Speaker 4: It's so hard for me to answer that in a
Speaker 4: concise way. I tend to get really wordy because it
Speaker 4: was a very long journey with a lot of steps
Speaker 4: to it. It's a journey I took with my husband
Speaker 4: and it all started out with our exploring a hot
Speaker 4: wife dynamic in.
Speaker 3: Our marriage, and then.
Speaker 4: One thing led to another and eventually our content creation
Speaker 4: started was just sharing videos of our journey, and it
Speaker 4: started very low key. It started on the first flat
Speaker 4: platform we used was fet life, and then the second
Speaker 4: platform used was porn Hub. It was all just free
Speaker 4: stuff because we'd really we weren't in it to make money.
Speaker 4: We just wanted to share. We were so excited genuinely
Speaker 4: for our own like the shit that we were doing,
Speaker 4: we wanted other people to see it, so we were
Speaker 4: just like, this is great, let's put it out there.
Speaker 4: So it was just us having a blast and posting footage.
Speaker 3: Of it on the internet.
Speaker 4: And then a few years later it became actually like
Speaker 4: a conscious like kind of business. Still we're just filming
Speaker 4: our fucking around in our journey that we're having part
Speaker 4: of my language.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's how it started. It was just making
Speaker 3: videos of our journey.
Speaker 1: So if this gets too personal, please stop me. Can
Speaker 1: I ask did you come into your marriage in a
Speaker 1: swinger open relationship type of situation. This is I've been
Speaker 1: interviewing so many performers who started as hot wife or
Speaker 1: swinger lifestyle, and I find it so fascinating because I've
Speaker 1: been with my wife for almost twenty years now.
Speaker 2: We met when we were like nineteen.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight, so i have no concept of, like,
Speaker 1: you know, spreading out. I've never even, like, you know,
Speaker 1: been one of those Oh yeah, I went around fucking college.
Speaker 1: Now I've been with my wife the whole time. Was
Speaker 1: it something you went into your relationship with knowing this
Speaker 1: was the idea? Was it something that came up later
Speaker 1: where it was almost like we need to spice this
Speaker 1: up in a positive or negative way? What was the
Speaker 1: turn for you guys?
Speaker 4: Again, it was just very like we went into our
Speaker 4: relationship totally regular monogamous.
Speaker 3: I would say regular.
Speaker 4: We were always very maybe adventurous in our sex life,
Speaker 4: but we were monogamous.
Speaker 3: It was just the two of us.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until later in our relationship that we decided
Speaker 4: to take a path into non monogamy and trying out
Speaker 4: new things.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I tried to Probably every interview I've done
Speaker 4: it has a different timeline.
Speaker 3: They're like years, I thought I have this.
Speaker 4: After seven I don't even remember, but there was a
Speaker 4: like it was a gradual change where our you know,
Speaker 4: are just between the two of us sex life started
Speaker 4: involving a lot of like worldplay about involving other people
Speaker 4: and a lot of fantasy talking about.
Speaker 3: Involving other people.
Speaker 4: And it became very apparent that, like my husband had
Speaker 4: these strong turn ons with involving me and other men,
Speaker 4: which I thought was really cool. I'd never even heard
Speaker 4: of that kind of thing before my relationship with him,
Speaker 4: and I don't even think he really knew until we
Speaker 4: did our you know, research together that there was a
Speaker 4: term for it, hot wife. So we kind of just
Speaker 4: explored these themes that both of us found exciting just
Speaker 4: in our it's just in our you know, solo bedroom time.
Speaker 3: We started exploring them.
Speaker 4: Together, and you know, over the years, like it was
Speaker 4: years and years, and then over the years we just
Speaker 4: kind of got a little bit more bold and more
Speaker 4: confident in our own relationship and thought, let's just do this,
Speaker 4: like there's nothing to lose here.
Speaker 3: We're both you know.
Speaker 4: So well connected and so confident and in our relationship
Speaker 4: that you know, let's just go for it.
Speaker 3: So we just did.
Speaker 1: Let me Okay, there was one thing you said in
Speaker 1: there that that got me interested. And let me say,
Speaker 1: first off, you don't have to tell me his actual
Speaker 1: job is your husband the general manager of a baseball team?
Speaker 1: Because I'm just wondering. You have the coolest layout I've
Speaker 1: ever had on this show. As my camera goes blurry,
Speaker 1: don't worry, my face isn't on this. What is what
Speaker 1: is going on there?
Speaker 2: Can I ask that?
Speaker 4: Well, in another hour or so, the Blue Jays are playing,
Speaker 4: so we booked one of the hotel rooms that.
Speaker 3: Overlook the field.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, the game isn't on yet, but.
Speaker 2: I mean that's an incredible thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you said something in there you were like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, what do we have to lose? I have
Speaker 1: read a few interviews with you where your husband is
Speaker 1: blurred in it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Was there any concern about jobs or anything like? Because
Speaker 1: the fun thing to say is there's nothing to lose
Speaker 1: as I put all of my body parts on the
Speaker 1: internet for people to see, and then the other reality
Speaker 1: of it, potentially there's things to lose over here.
Speaker 2: Was there any like concern or fear about that?
Speaker 3: I think I said I meant that about our relationship.
Speaker 3: Nothing to lose in content. We started with our lifestyle,
Speaker 3: so there was nothing.
Speaker 4: We didn't feel there was anything to lose in our
Speaker 4: relationship because we were just so happy and it was
Speaker 4: a together thing. There definitely was some concern when we
Speaker 4: started posting online, and we took probably we were a
Speaker 4: bit naive in the beginning. We took some precautions like
Speaker 4: early early content, and those people who've been following me
Speaker 4: for a while know that I used to wear masks
Speaker 4: and or have like our faces not in it, and
Speaker 4: it was very like nobody knew we were doing this,
Speaker 4: but it was like the time and the genre, like
Speaker 4: it just became really popular really quickly, and then we
Speaker 4: made a conscious decision that I was going to show
Speaker 4: my face. And so at first when I started doing that,
Speaker 4: we like GEO blocked our province and like we you know,
Speaker 4: we're still a bit cautious about it. We weren't sure
Speaker 4: how people would react. But over time, like people did
Speaker 4: find out, and we made the decision to just lean
Speaker 4: into it because really we were just two happy people
Speaker 4: who who.
Speaker 3: Liked sharing what we were doing on the internet.
Speaker 4: And luckily it didn't you know, like I know, not
Speaker 4: every story is like the fairy tale that we had
Speaker 4: before us, Like we never had.
Speaker 3: Any any issues.
Speaker 4: There's a bit of like drama at my workplace when
Speaker 4: people first found out. There was a bit of a shock,
Speaker 4: but it's moved over fairly quickly, and you know, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I was it didn't change
Speaker 4: who I was at work with my friends and my family.
Speaker 4: It's not like it didn't change who I was as
Speaker 4: you know, as a person, and you know, has had
Speaker 4: some interesting discussions with a lot of people who I
Speaker 4: normally wouldn't have those discussions with.
Speaker 3: But it was kind of it was just a way
Speaker 3: of kind of like.
Speaker 4: So part of what we were doing was even though yeah,
Speaker 4: it was just for a turn on for us and
Speaker 4: an exhibitionist thing, it was also I really liked the
Speaker 4: idea of normalizing relationships that were sort of outside the
Speaker 4: box or the society's norms.
Speaker 3: So if we.
Speaker 4: Were confident enough to do that in videos, I thought
Speaker 4: we should be confident enough to explain ourselves and talk
Speaker 4: about our passions with the people in our lives. So
Speaker 4: we did that, and we took that opportunity, which is
Speaker 4: a lot harder than putting it out there for faceless
Speaker 4: people on the internet.
Speaker 3: But in the end, like it was, it was very healthy.
Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, that is that's a big jump for
Speaker 1: me personally. The thought of that is, you know, terrifying.
Speaker 1: Here show all of your miniscule parts to everybody in
Speaker 1: the world. The one thing you said, there was drama
Speaker 1: there at your other job. I'm only asking this because
Speaker 1: you have talked about that other job before, and it
Speaker 1: kind of leads into another part of the discussion. What
Speaker 1: was that other job? Do you still discuss just what
Speaker 1: it was, not where it was or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, I was a a nurse for most
Speaker 4: most of my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 4: I was an immersed a nurse in the emergency department
Speaker 4: and yeah, just until last year.
Speaker 1: That's so creat My wife and I are in the
Speaker 1: middle of an er watch for the first time and
Speaker 1: I the show.
Speaker 2: We are ever CEO the show? We are yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: We're not just standing outside of the hospital like watching
Speaker 1: the people go in.
Speaker 2: But it looks fucking insane. We watched the pit too.
Speaker 2: What is that on HBO? That one's really good too.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?
Speaker 1: Oh it's real good. HBO Max throw that on, but
Speaker 1: it looks fucking hectic and insane. So that leads me
Speaker 1: into my next question. They I've seen a bunch of
Speaker 1: articles recently and again I understand this is not the
Speaker 1: same concept. I'll show you how I'm going to tie
Speaker 1: it together. I read an article recently about how, like
Speaker 1: the number one profession where there's cheating going on is
Speaker 1: now nursing. It used to be like cops and firemen,
Speaker 1: and now it's nursing. What is it about nursing that
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't work with monogamy?
Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Or no?
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Did you get hit on by
Speaker 1: guys before you were in this open relationship?
Speaker 4: In my experience, I didn't. I didn't find that was
Speaker 4: to be true in my in my really okay, I
Speaker 4: never I never cheated on my husband.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I without consent. Sure, not without him
Speaker 2: encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 4: I also never mixed my my lifestyle and hobby of
Speaker 4: what my husband and I did with my workplace. And
Speaker 4: that was just the kind of person I was. It
Speaker 4: may have been happening, but I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't aware of it.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Like none of my friends in
Speaker 4: the nursing profession, were you know, having affairs and cheating that.
Speaker 4: But I mean there's there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 4: lot of nurses out there, so true.
Speaker 1: Sure, well let's I mean, let's let's play around with
Speaker 1: the psychology of it, maybe a little bit. You're seeing
Speaker 1: really tragic things all day, you can see, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're seeing positive things as well, somebody getting better at life,
Speaker 1: being saved, this and that. But you're watching people who
Speaker 1: pass away or a kid who comes in with an injury,
Speaker 1: and this and that, and then maybe mister hot doctor
Speaker 1: over there is the shoulder for you to really like
Speaker 1: kind of let it go on, and then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he looks like he's got okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: That sense, I will say because with my colleagues, I've
Speaker 4: formed some very strong bonds, and a lot of it
Speaker 4: is around the you know, like trauma bonding. It's like
Speaker 4: around the things you see that other people in your
Speaker 4: life don't necessarily see or or don't quite get the
Speaker 4: same way. So there is a sense I've made strong
Speaker 4: friendships around that and had some really intense moments around that,
Speaker 4: but in a non sexual way. So I can see
Speaker 4: how others would sure bring that together in a in
Speaker 4: asexual way as well.
Speaker 3: Like it that makes sense. You have a point.
Speaker 1: There are two people I cannot make laugh in the world.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other people, but there's two specific
Speaker 1: groups of people, and it's dominatrixes and nurses. I just
Speaker 1: bomb every time. I don't know why. You guys are
Speaker 1: too serious, too smart to deal with my stupidity. I
Speaker 1: respect that. I understand the world needs those people. So
Speaker 1: thank you for being a nurse for all of those
Speaker 1: years and saving lives. I have some swinger questions for you, right,
Speaker 1: and they might seem silly, but I'm coming at this
Speaker 1: from the street level person. I have, like I said,
Speaker 1: no understanding, and I really want to relay to people
Speaker 1: like it's maybe there are misconceptions here or there. Can
Speaker 1: I ask, are there any major misconceptions about the hot
Speaker 1: wife lifestyle? And how does hot wifing differ from any
Speaker 1: other type of swing? Are there different types of swinger lifestyles.
Speaker 3: I'll start by saying I'm not an.
Speaker 1: Expert in well, we'll do it all in your experience,
Speaker 1: experience perfect.
Speaker 4: I will say that in my experience, I've met many
Speaker 4: couples who have various types of open relationships and consensual,
Speaker 4: non monogamous relationships, And it seems to me that each
Speaker 4: relationship is it may have.
Speaker 3: Similar dynamics, but nobody's exactly the same.
Speaker 4: Everyone has different rules, everyone has different comfort levels, everyone
Speaker 4: has slightly different dynamics.
Speaker 3: And there's a whole spectrum.
Speaker 4: Of swinging couples and hot wife couples and what they
Speaker 4: do or don't do.
Speaker 3: So what was the question?
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I asked too many questions at once. I made a
Speaker 1: nurse's life. I ask too many questions at once, and
Speaker 1: they just stack up. Essentially, are there any misconceptions from
Speaker 1: what you've seen? Like have you ever told anybody that?
Speaker 1: And they're almost like, oh my god, that's disgusting. You
Speaker 1: just let yourself get gang bang by fifty guys every night,
Speaker 1: And you're like, well, no, it's not quite like that.
Speaker 4: There's definitely misconceptions the person people see when they watch
Speaker 4: my content. For example, people only see me in these
Speaker 4: scenarios and just assume that it's like every single day
Speaker 4: when really it's I mean, it's actually quite frequent, but
Speaker 4: but it's not, you know, it's not like ninety percent
Speaker 4: of my life is being a hot wife, that's just
Speaker 4: you know, a pastime, like some people you know, play
Speaker 4: hockey and.
Speaker 3: I do this.
Speaker 4: A misconception also, one misconception that a lot of just
Speaker 4: people in my personal life might have had when they
Speaker 4: first found out this what we're doing, is that it's
Speaker 4: it goes both ways. Some people think, you know, it's
Speaker 4: one person pressuring the other person to do something. So
Speaker 4: like my husband, you know, is you know, pushing me
Speaker 4: to have sex with other men, you know, for his enjoyment,
Speaker 4: And other people think that it's me, my poor husband,
Speaker 4: I'm out, you know, sleeping with all these men, when
Speaker 4: really it's like for us anyway, it was years and
Speaker 4: years of just like talking and growing together and making
Speaker 4: decisions about what we were going to do and what
Speaker 4: you know excited us, and we did this together.
Speaker 3: And it's it's a little bit tricky with all life
Speaker 3: because it's kind of one.
Speaker 4: Sided from an outside perspective because the woman is going
Speaker 4: and having all these experiences and the husband isn't.
Speaker 3: So it does appear a little bit one sided. So
Speaker 3: there can be a lot.
Speaker 4: Of misconceptions about that when really, you know, my enjoyment
Speaker 4: is coming from the experiences and his enjoyment is coming from,
Speaker 4: you know, seeing me having these experiences or bringing the
Speaker 4: stories home to him, and then the moments.
Speaker 3: That we have afterwards.
Speaker 4: So there is a lot of misconceptions about the drive
Speaker 4: behind those.
Speaker 1: Kind of relationships, you know, and it's tough for people
Speaker 1: to see from the outside. But the relationships, the ones
Speaker 1: you described in the middle there that are not yours,
Speaker 1: the dominant woman telling the guy I'm gonna go get fucked,
Speaker 1: or the guy being like, you have to go do this,
Speaker 1: but they don't last unless they're like crazy, abusive and
Speaker 1: codependent and all this. And but those aren't like real
Speaker 1: lasting relationships. You're not going to find a couple who
Speaker 1: are ten years into the swinger lifestyle and the chicks like,
Speaker 1: I don't really like this that much ever, it just
Speaker 1: I don't. That is a misconception, Like it seems like
Speaker 1: if you were in this and everyone's happy, then this
Speaker 1: is maybe how you were supposed to be, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why anyone comments on anybody else's happiness.
Speaker 2: That's just me going off on a rant there. So
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 4: Every beautiful thing about human beings is where you know,
Speaker 4: even though we're all the same species, we're also very
Speaker 4: different and we all, you know, we're allowed to have
Speaker 4: different types of relationships and what works for one person
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to work for somebody else. As long
Speaker 4: as we're happy and you found that person who has
Speaker 4: the same you know, path to happiness as you do.
Speaker 3: It's it's fun. We can all have our different you
Speaker 3: know paths and sure sure.
Speaker 1: Two last questions about swinger lifestyle. Number one, do you
Speaker 1: guys have rules set up or is it just a
Speaker 1: constant communication like is there something you know not to
Speaker 1: bring to him because he doesn't he's not into this.
Speaker 4: Yes, and yes, so we do have some rules for example,
Speaker 4: like there's certain things that we're not into. Some hot
Speaker 4: wife couples are into get us thrill out of a
Speaker 4: little bit of degradation or cooking my personal relationship, or
Speaker 4: we're not into that. I don't you know, make a
Speaker 4: big scene about like how much better another guy is
Speaker 4: than my husband and or like deny my husband. And
Speaker 4: some people are like that and they both really love
Speaker 4: it and get off on it, and that's cool, but
Speaker 4: that's just for us.
Speaker 3: We don't do that.
Speaker 4: Another thing is we're not polyamorous. So as many guys
Speaker 4: as I you know, can go out and see or
Speaker 4: even befriend, it doesn't turn into a romantic thing. And
Speaker 4: I don't have like a romantic relationship with other guys
Speaker 4: who are not my husband. It's more just like a fun,
Speaker 4: free and sexual kind of relationship.
Speaker 3: Those all these things across that kind of line. That's
Speaker 3: obviously a hard rule that we have.
Speaker 1: That just brought up another question. So two more questions
Speaker 1: about the swinger lifestyle. This one here is have you
Speaker 1: had to push people away after the fact, either men
Speaker 1: or women or anything in this life? And I apologize,
Speaker 1: Is your husband allowed to do you guys go both ways?
Speaker 1: Is it just about the enjoyment he has watching you
Speaker 1: not go both ways? And you know what I meant, like,
Speaker 1: is he allowed to be with women as well?
Speaker 4: For sure he is. He hasn't gone out and had
Speaker 4: sex with other women. He's like, we've been in group
Speaker 4: situations where he's like had you know, like low jobs
Speaker 4: or like sexy contact with other women, but he hasn't
Speaker 4: actually like like gone out way I do it and
Speaker 4: like had sex with another woman. I would be totally
Speaker 4: cool with it if he did, but we just haven't.
Speaker 4: And maybe it will in the future, but at this point.
Speaker 4: It just hasn't been something that we've jud.
Speaker 1: Sure that makes almost this last question a little bit moot,
Speaker 1: But I always love asking this to people in the lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Has any one of you ever it would be better
Speaker 1: if he was also engaging with women? But have either
Speaker 1: of you ever taken a bullet for the other one?
Speaker 1: I love the concept of a swinger couple meeting a
Speaker 1: couple and the guy in that other couple is like gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and the girls like and the wife's like, look, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to You're gonna have to do that, okay,
Speaker 1: or vice versa. You know, maybe the guy is looks
Speaker 1: like me and the woman there is like this, yuck,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever had to take a bullet?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been like, like, I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: would go you would be you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. But has he been like, yeoh, you
Speaker 1: should be with that guy and you've been a little
Speaker 1: bit like, eh, okay, all right.
Speaker 3: No, I can't say that you've had situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, but no, it doesn't really
Speaker 3: apply to us.
Speaker 1: The experiences that we've had okay, all right, fair enough,
Speaker 1: fair enough, let me get into some of your content.
Speaker 2: Here. You are, I believe, still a Vixen girl.
Speaker 1: Damn yes, what is I interviewed someone the other day
Speaker 1: who her first entrance into this She goes to Brassers
Speaker 1: contact at me, and I'm just thinking of all the
Speaker 1: performers out there who try and put together they're only
Speaker 1: fans and this and that, and this beautiful girl over here.
Speaker 1: Brasers just gives her a call and goes, hey, do
Speaker 1: you want to like do real big time stuff. So
Speaker 1: as I'm looking at your list of things you've done,
Speaker 1: which I do a little game called stat check, we'll
Speaker 1: go to that in a little bit. I mean it's
Speaker 1: all Vixen sites. That was your jump into the mainstream, right,
Speaker 1: Like I assume you produced a lot of your own
Speaker 1: content for a while and then the jump into mainstream or.
Speaker 4: No, So I my main my main content is still
Speaker 4: my own content.
Speaker 3: Sure, very Vixen. I love you, Vixen.
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm under contract with Vixen as well, and
Speaker 4: that's my professional my professional work. But you know, there's
Speaker 4: the two branches of the adult industry. There's the amateur
Speaker 4: or you know, independent content creators and there, and there's
Speaker 4: the professional studio house uh big time productions, right, I
Speaker 4: do both. So my main thing that I do on
Speaker 4: a day to day basis is my only fans, my
Speaker 4: port and hub, my my husband and I making our
Speaker 4: own content, ruing around with friends, just having a good time,
Speaker 4: going to ball games, you know, making content out of it,
Speaker 4: and like that's like, that's that's our joy, that's what
Speaker 4: we do. Vixen came Uplong I guess two years ago now,
Speaker 4: and I had no idea because I didn't really I
Speaker 4: didn't know anything about porn. I just knew that like
Speaker 4: our you know, our own stuff that we do, and
Speaker 4: like I didn't know mainstream porn. And Vixen comes along
Speaker 4: and says like, hey, we have this new channel it's
Speaker 4: called Milfie and would you be interested in in like
Speaker 4: doing like production porn. And at first I was just like, like,
Speaker 4: who who's Vixen? When really like they're like.
Speaker 2: Like, who's bank Bros. I've never heard of these brothers before. Yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: ye yeah.
Speaker 4: So they came because I obviously it makes sense for
Speaker 4: them to seek it because independent OnlyFans, amateur stuff is
Speaker 4: so big, right, now and a lot of these girls
Speaker 4: have such big followings. It makes sense for these you know,
Speaker 4: mainstream companies to get those girls so they can get
Speaker 4: their audiences, right. So I'm sure like they were looking
Speaker 4: to see who's doing what, and anyway, I guess they
Speaker 4: came across me, reached out, and then several months later, I,
Speaker 4: you know, I gave them a shot. I had no
Speaker 4: interest in doing you know, professional porn because I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't do acting like I want. I'm showing my
Speaker 4: real life. I'm showing you know what I do. I'm
Speaker 4: not an actor. But they were so sweet. They were
Speaker 4: so absolutely sweet, and they made this hot white scene
Speaker 4: for me to do, and like Kingen Cross wrote this
Speaker 4: scrip and directed it and it was just very simple,
Speaker 4: but it was something that I was familiar with, something
Speaker 4: that I was comfortable with, and so I went out
Speaker 4: to LA and I shot this like twenty twenty three
Speaker 4: and it was so much fun. And then after that,
Speaker 4: like you know, I did a few more and then
Speaker 4: they signed me and now I do you know, ten
Speaker 4: scenes a year or something, and we kind of incorporated
Speaker 4: that into our own hot Wife dynamic because it was
Speaker 4: the first time that I that I.
Speaker 3: Was doing something without my husband.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've had, you know, pressure, but it was
Speaker 4: the first time I've done something you know, content or
Speaker 4: video related without him, because he films everything, edits everything,
Speaker 4: like we worked.
Speaker 3: Together as a team, and so I was.
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure how that would work, but he was like,
Speaker 4: this is actually really exciting because you know, we can
Speaker 4: think about it, like I go on these dates and
Speaker 4: I come home and I tell him all about it,
Speaker 4: and he's like, it's like, you're going on these dates,
Speaker 4: but only you're going out to like these fantasy scenarios
Speaker 4: that Vixen can write for you and having these experiences
Speaker 4: that you wouldn't necessarily have, you know, with guys you
Speaker 4: know here in Toronto.
Speaker 3: I look, but you know, it was it's just like
Speaker 3: these things.
Speaker 4: And then I, you know, I come back to him
Speaker 4: and I tell them all about my experiences on set
Speaker 4: and that feeds into our dynamic that we love. So
Speaker 4: I do that, but I still also do my my
Speaker 4: independent stuff at the same time.
Speaker 1: Not that I think you're going to like the bad
Speaker 1: part of town to film scenes, but there's also it's safer.
Speaker 1: I would think for the most part, you hear some
Speaker 1: bad stories about mainstream sets. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: it's also safer. It's like you're going into an environment
Speaker 1: with a professional. If you were my wife, I'm into
Speaker 1: this and I'm sending you out, I go, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the best way for her not to be killed
Speaker 1: in a hotel room or something like that.
Speaker 4: So exactly, like some of these scenarios that I've been
Speaker 4: able to like act out or like you know, do
Speaker 4: on a Vixen set are things.
Speaker 3: That you know. It's because sometimes you have a fantasy
Speaker 3: but it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Really make sense in reality because a, yeah, it's not
Speaker 4: safe or it's not you know, something that you can
Speaker 4: make happen in a way that makes sense. But you know,
Speaker 4: in a set you can and you can live out
Speaker 4: these fantasies and then bring it home in.
Speaker 3: A controlled and safe way.
Speaker 4: And Vixen were just That's the thing I learned was
Speaker 4: like they're so wonderful to their performers, Like.
Speaker 3: They'll play me out there, they take care of me.
Speaker 4: They'll like take me out to dinner and ask me
Speaker 4: to make sure that you know the debrief afterwards, make
Speaker 4: sure that I'm comfortable and I'm okay.
Speaker 3: And it just.
Speaker 4: Felt so you know nice, and I had no idea
Speaker 4: before before I met them.
Speaker 3: And then when I talk to other people the like
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Most people, they do a lot of other stuff and
Speaker 4: then they get to the you know, companies like Vixen.
Speaker 2: Don't know you literally, I mean you literally.
Speaker 1: This starts out at I think Vixen shoots the most
Speaker 1: beautiful stuff. Now that's not everybody's preference, that's not even
Speaker 1: necessarily my preference. But you can't say the color isn't beautiful,
Speaker 1: the quality isn't beautiful, the camera, I mean everything works.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 1: I'm a gritty, dirty scumbag. I like the middle of
Speaker 1: the road stuff. But yeah, I mean you can't start
Speaker 1: on like a better company than that. So congratulations on that.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. That is hard work, and you're right.
Speaker 1: I never knew this until I started doing this show.
Speaker 1: But I also do another kind of side show called
Speaker 1: Brand New Faces, where I bring on new girls who
Speaker 1: are trying to get into the industry and kind of
Speaker 1: tell them what I know, get their story, see if
Speaker 1: they're really like into this. And through doing this, I
Speaker 1: have learned that there is a whole nother tier that
Speaker 1: is equally as big as the mainstream in the independent girls.
Speaker 1: Like I would see a girl and someone would say
Speaker 1: that girl does only fans and would go, oh, I
Speaker 1: can try and get her on go on, and she
Speaker 1: has a million followers. Where the fuck did these come from? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is my ignorance. This is
Speaker 1: just some independent girl quote unquote.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So it's really nice that there's a crossover. Now, what's
Speaker 1: really cool about it is I feel like it puts
Speaker 1: more power in your hands being able, because you are
Speaker 1: the one that can turn down Vixen. You're not a
Speaker 1: woman emailing Vixen going I need to be on your
Speaker 1: site please, blah blah blah. How much creative control did
Speaker 1: you have over those scenes or did you step back
Speaker 1: and go I'm going to experience this from the other side.
Speaker 4: They're actually really I haven't taken too much creative control
Speaker 4: at this point, but they are very open to Like
Speaker 4: they've told me numerous times. We're just like, let's know
Speaker 4: what you want to do. If there's anything you want, like,
Speaker 4: tell us and we'll make it happen. So maybe we're
Speaker 4: discussing my next year of contracts, so you know, maybe
Speaker 4: I'll get a little more creative. But for right now
Speaker 4: I just kind of of, you know, I give some
Speaker 4: ideas and they'd make it happen. There's something I can't
Speaker 4: talk about it yet. There's something coming out that I
Speaker 4: really wanted to do, and they've you know, made it happen.
Speaker 3: Uh So later this summer it's gonna.
Speaker 4: It's going to be out there and the other thing
Speaker 4: that like creative control. Yeah. But also there was one
Speaker 4: scene I did where I kept thinking back to one
Speaker 4: part of it where I wasn't sure. There was some
Speaker 4: things I said in like the dirty Chalk. I was like,
Speaker 4: I was kind of cringing trying to remember what I
Speaker 4: had said, and I was like, I wanted, like, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure if I if I felt like that was
Speaker 4: totally me what I said, And they let me completely
Speaker 4: review the scene before it was out and go through
Speaker 4: it and let them know if they hadn't ship I
Speaker 4: was it was just me overthinking.
Speaker 3: When I watched it back, it was beautiful, It was fine.
Speaker 4: Everything I said was totally respectful and like, you know,
Speaker 4: it was it was all.
Speaker 3: It was all great.
Speaker 4: But the fact that they, you know, gave me like
Speaker 4: a file of a meet that's not been out yet
Speaker 4: and let me review and they said they would change
Speaker 4: it if I was not okay with it, Like that
Speaker 4: was like, that was I thought pretty big professional.
Speaker 1: It's it's not you know, there's this perception of porn
Speaker 1: from the outside. It's like, oh, Serenity comes on, she
Speaker 1: gets fucked, and then she goes. They don't account for
Speaker 1: the other ninety five percent of your work that's social media, editing,
Speaker 1: this that, blah blah blah, And they also don't account
Speaker 1: for like you know, in the moment, can I ask
Speaker 1: this so you said offensive?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me what it was. Was
Speaker 1: it offensive or was it? Did you find it corny
Speaker 1: what you had said when you thought back, like were
Speaker 1: you like, ooh, you got the biggest fucking muscles and
Speaker 1: the guy's like that's not really dirty talk, Ooh your
Speaker 1: fucking hairline is wonderful. It's like, well, Serenity, that's not
Speaker 1: getting Dick's hard. Was it it was just something? Or
Speaker 1: was it overly aggressive, like come on, bitch and you're like, well, look,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be more sub in this scene. It was.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, there's something.
Speaker 4: Belled a little bit out of out of character, but but.
Speaker 3: No, it was okay. I don't know in my mind,
Speaker 3: like sometimes you just like say a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Sure, and that's.
Speaker 1: That beats too quiet though saying saying a lot of things.
Speaker 2: But you're right.
Speaker 1: I only recently got my wife into dirty talking because
Speaker 1: we're just too cynical for it. We've always been. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, do you want me to fuck you hard?
Speaker 1: And she'd be like, I don't know, can you fuck
Speaker 1: me hard? I guess, And it's like, well the mood
Speaker 1: is killed now. Now I can't say another word. We
Speaker 1: got to be silent, but I kind of expressed to her.
Speaker 1: I was like, look what we're saying. I will never
Speaker 1: judge you for this. I am like a big mouth
Speaker 1: and I call people out and I joke and this
Speaker 1: is now busballs here, but anything in here, this is
Speaker 1: us And you're totally good. Whatever you say, I won't
Speaker 1: call you out for it. And that's been opening up
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a nice thing. So if you
Speaker 1: secretly want to slide in thing, you're going to be
Speaker 1: shooting into this list. But let me ask you, what
Speaker 1: are some types of scenes or niches or fetishes or
Speaker 1: anything like that that you're looking forward to adding to
Speaker 1: your portfolio in the next year or so, something where
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I need to shoot that type of
Speaker 1: scene because I don't have that in my repertoire. And
Speaker 1: it can be multiple too, whenever you get so.
Speaker 4: In my personal independent stuff we do, we do a
Speaker 4: variety of everything. We do kind of fetishi stuff we
Speaker 4: do like it's mostly like two guys and a girl
Speaker 4: stuff we do like bondage, we do soft, we do
Speaker 4: hard like it's just so we do a little variety
Speaker 4: of everything. But in the in the Vixen stuff, I
Speaker 4: want to do more of their deeper channel, which I
Speaker 4: did tell them and I did one scene with deeper,
Speaker 4: but it was a hot wife scene.
Speaker 3: It was really hot.
Speaker 4: It was it was great, but I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: that's cool, Like deeper is there like kink fetish, like
Speaker 4: a little bit more out there channel.
Speaker 3: And we did hot wife, which was like cool because
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with it.
Speaker 4: But I said, you know, next time, I want to
Speaker 4: do it deeper with like lots of like shiny pretty
Speaker 4: bondage or like something like a lot of like rope something.
Speaker 4: Really you know, we do it in our private life,
Speaker 4: but I want to do it in a way where they.
Speaker 3: Like make it look beautiful, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I want that that vixen touch on the on
Speaker 4: the you know, rope work or bondage or you know,
Speaker 4: using like the highest end of a beautiful chink ware.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just want to.
Speaker 1: Like know, that makes total sense to me. You want
Speaker 1: to see the thing that you like doing occasionally or
Speaker 1: often or whatever it is, you want to see it
Speaker 1: in the highest scale, right, Like, do you watch back
Speaker 1: your own stuff, not for like editing purposes or anything.
Speaker 1: Do you ever like you're with your husband, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: getting frisky and then you're like, oh, put one of
Speaker 1: them really.
Speaker 3: All the time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watch our own stuff. I don't
Speaker 4: watch very much porn at all anymore. That sounds that
Speaker 4: sounds kind of terrible, But no, because you know how
Speaker 4: you were feeling in that moment, so we and we
Speaker 4: have so much content now, so yeah, we'll go back
Speaker 4: through own stuff and watch it and you know, have
Speaker 4: a good time with that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound terrible. It sounds like when you work
Speaker 1: at Starbucks and after like six months, you're like, I
Speaker 1: can't fucking smell coffee anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm going to lose my mind.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I love coffee, but if you
Speaker 1: work there long enough, you just kind of like, ah,
Speaker 1: I've seen it all. So is that why you don't
Speaker 1: watch porn and you're like, eh, I know all that,
Speaker 1: or you just don't really find a need for it.
Speaker 3: Because I don't find a need for it. It's because
Speaker 3: I like what we do.
Speaker 4: The only time, you know, I do watch porn when
Speaker 4: I want inspiration or like, for example, if we're if
Speaker 4: we're playing around with like DP or something, that's like
Speaker 4: you know, you finding the right angles to show it off.
Speaker 3: And you know, we have limited people in our independent stuff.
Speaker 4: We don't have a whole studio to get all like
Speaker 4: the the right angles and everything. So you know, watching
Speaker 4: it for seeing what other people do who are doing
Speaker 4: you know, scenes that I want to do. So that's
Speaker 4: kind of I don't really want you to get off.
Speaker 4: I'll watch it to learn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to get off. We just watch our
Speaker 3: own experiences.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh my god, that is such confidence. Congratulations on
Speaker 1: having that confidence. I couldn't imagine that I would be
Speaker 1: so disgusted with myself. So your typical stuff is two
Speaker 1: guys and a girl. You said, right, two guys in
Speaker 1: you do you have like a constant guy you go
Speaker 1: back to? Does that switch out? Like how do you
Speaker 1: schedule and like plan your own personal stuff?
Speaker 3: So, sorry, it's getting louder here. I hope that's not.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: You're good, don't what are you gonna do? Shut it down?
Speaker 1: You're good, You're fine. We'll work around it, Okay.
Speaker 4: So for our own stuff, we do have one very
Speaker 4: good friend who's bless his heart, He's like he's always
Speaker 4: down to film something and that's been such a like
Speaker 4: he's such a good time. So a lot of our
Speaker 4: content is with one of our good friends. But we
Speaker 4: do switch it up like I'll have you know, I
Speaker 4: still I still go out on the dating apps and
Speaker 4: like find guys and you know, I do this segment
Speaker 4: and my only fans.
Speaker 3: Called a date Diary.
Speaker 4: Where I'll go out and on a date with a
Speaker 4: new guy and like stuff there's so and then I'll
Speaker 4: you know, hook up with other content.
Speaker 3: Creator gentlemen, and you know, we do we do that.
Speaker 4: But like for our we have a very small group
Speaker 4: of our regular folks that we do content with, or
Speaker 4: we don't always do content, like we still have threesomes
Speaker 4: outside of filming, just for our own fun.
Speaker 1: Really okay, all right, nice? So where do we see
Speaker 1: this going? It sounds like you got in for the
Speaker 1: purest reason. It feels like where you were like, this
Speaker 1: is fun, this is I enjoy doing this. My first uh,
Speaker 1: my first podcast was a comedy show and we had listeners,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have as many listeners as this does.
Speaker 2: But it was just fun. You would just jump on.
Speaker 1: I would talk to my friend every week for an hour,
Speaker 1: cut it up, post it.
Speaker 2: It was great. So you got into this for the
Speaker 2: right reasons.
Speaker 1: I speak to a lot of performers who are like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to this and I'm out. I
Speaker 1: have no interest in this. Do you have any like
Speaker 1: major goal or milestone that you were looking to hit?
Speaker 1: Is it retirement? Is it you want to film the
Speaker 1: world's biggest gang bang and you're done? Do you want
Speaker 1: to start keep doing like guilf porn at seventy five
Speaker 1: years old?
Speaker 2: Like, where do you see your road going?
Speaker 4: For us, it's when it's all being fun. We're done
Speaker 4: right now. It's still really fun and we are lucky.
Speaker 4: I say we because you know it's not just Sarinity Cox,
Speaker 4: like my husband is a partner in it. Like we're
Speaker 4: lucky because both of us have professions that we can
Speaker 4: fall back on.
Speaker 3: We don't need to be doing this.
Speaker 4: We're doing this because it's an absolute blast, and luckily
Speaker 4: we've both taken breaks from our other professions because this,
Speaker 4: I like, supports some much better than our other professions did.
Speaker 4: And we're just so fortunate to be able to do this.
Speaker 4: So we're just rolling with it. And when and if this,
Speaker 4: you know, isn't doing it for us anymore, then you know,
Speaker 4: we'll stop. We have things that we can fall back on,
Speaker 4: and we'll still be doing the lifestyle things. We'll still
Speaker 4: be you know, screwing around with our friends and.
Speaker 3: Just having fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll be set up financially from this so that
Speaker 3: we won't have to go back to work. And that
Speaker 3: is the goal.
Speaker 1: That is That's always the goal. I ask this every time,
Speaker 1: is there any kind of type of scene? I used
Speaker 1: to call this game sack shit Animal and kids, I
Speaker 1: would ask, is there a type of scene or something
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to shoot? And performers would be like, well,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fuck a kid, and I'd be like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I got that. Those are off the table. We're not
Speaker 1: talking about you know, like deprecation type stuff. Kids are animals,
Speaker 1: all right out. So when I ask you this, let's
Speaker 1: work within the realm of pornography you can find on
Speaker 1: the internet, not the dark Web. Is there any type
Speaker 1: of scene that you have no interest in pursuing that
Speaker 1: they come to you the Vixen's you know the deal. Whatever,
Speaker 1: a site comes to you and you're able to take
Speaker 1: it potentially, and they go, we want you to shoot
Speaker 1: this type of scene, and you immediately just kind of go, Now,
Speaker 1: it's not really me. Doesn't fit my brand, doesn't fit
Speaker 1: my personality. Is there anything that's kind of out Not
Speaker 1: a nurse?
Speaker 2: Okay? All right?
Speaker 1: Are you scared you're gonna get pigeonholed into the same
Speaker 1: role every time? Oh, let's just get throundy.
Speaker 2: She's a nurse. Yeah, go ahead, No, because it's so
Speaker 2: to No.
Speaker 4: It just bugs me because I feel like it's such
Speaker 4: a sexualized profession. And whenever people find out that I'm
Speaker 4: a nurse, they're like, oh, you should do nurse poor
Speaker 4: and you should be the like slutty nurse. And I'm
Speaker 4: like no, and I don't, like, I know a lot
Speaker 4: of people do it. It's fine, Like it's it's fine.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not that you know, hurt or offended by it.
Speaker 4: But I just see how hard and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of professions like this, how hard like women of work
Speaker 4: to be taken seriously in specific professions, and I just
Speaker 4: don't want to add to that, you know.
Speaker 3: Sexualization of those professions. So I don't do teacher porn.
Speaker 3: I don't do nurse porn.
Speaker 4: I don't do police officer or army chick or like
Speaker 4: any of these things.
Speaker 3: That like I feel, I just don't feel good about that.
Speaker 1: Totally understand. I that is such an interesting perspective. I've
Speaker 1: never thought of that before. You respect how much goes
Speaker 1: into that profession, So you don't want to do like
Speaker 1: a characterization or a cartoon of it, almost right, is
Speaker 1: that what it sounds like?
Speaker 4: And I know it's lighthearted and like, you know, we
Speaker 4: know that it's just a fantasy when people are doing
Speaker 4: it important, but just for me personally, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: can't go there.
Speaker 1: I interviewed Gage, who was a major porn star in
Speaker 1: the early two thousand. One of my favorites, you know,
Speaker 1: right around the time I turned eighteen, definitely not fifteen
Speaker 1: years old, so one of my favorites of all time.
Speaker 1: And she told us, you know, in depth, I grew
Speaker 1: up in Arkansas. It was very racist down there. It
Speaker 1: was blah blah blah blah blah. So I had the question, like,
Speaker 1: did you have any concerns or issues doing interracial porns?
Speaker 1: She said interracial was totally fine. The stuff she wouldn't
Speaker 1: do with stepbrother and stepsister because she said everyone back
Speaker 1: in my town was doing that already, and I did
Speaker 1: not want to get judged for that. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, respect, I totally get it. There's you
Speaker 1: don't want to Yeah, I get that, sir Annie. So
Speaker 1: I kind of asked it, a but what is the
Speaker 1: future hold do we? What can I expect if I
Speaker 1: go on your only fans right now? By the way,
Speaker 1: folks at Serenity Cox links in the episode description, as
Speaker 1: always as they always are, we support creators here. Am
Speaker 1: I getting any nut that I want it?
Speaker 4: But?
Speaker 1: Am I getting any polished stuff? Am I getting you?
Speaker 1: And your daily life with your husband?
Speaker 2: Am I? I know you do no pay per view?
Speaker 2: I believe I read that.
Speaker 3: That's correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, awesome. So what is the experience, the Serenity
Speaker 1: Cox experience if I sign up for your of today?
Speaker 4: Okay, so the Serenity Cox experience if you never pronosi
Speaker 4: this is great.
Speaker 3: So my only fans is uh, subscription only, no pay
Speaker 3: per view.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It is just two videos a week of me and
Speaker 4: my lifestyle doing what we do. Generally, it's my husband
Speaker 4: filming me with a gentleman, sometimes with a lady and
Speaker 4: sometimes other two videos a week, plus little updates in
Speaker 4: between photos and that. But I get asked a lot.
Speaker 4: I don't do any of the paid custom stuff. I
Speaker 4: don't see any of the pay per view stuff. It's
Speaker 4: just what I want to post and I'm just thankful
Speaker 4: when people want to tune in and watch that. And
Speaker 4: I also do a monthly live stream, which is always
Speaker 4: my most fun time of the month. Is just an
Speaker 4: hour of intimate uh on well people on one with.
Speaker 1: Sure, I have to say, and I'm not just blown
Speaker 1: smoke care. I really respect that you are in this.
Speaker 1: It seems like for the right reasons. And I think
Speaker 1: your message is awesome. I think your message on fucking
Speaker 1: nursing is awesome and I've never considered that before. I
Speaker 1: have read you are very tied in with sexual health,
Speaker 1: and you promote that right really hard.
Speaker 3: And do you like to promote sexual health?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, I just kind of let it go.
Speaker 3: Should all be promoting sexual health in this industry?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're qualified to do it.
Speaker 1: If I stand on a corner handing out condoms, I
Speaker 1: look like a real fucking weirdo.
Speaker 2: You're a nurse.
Speaker 1: You're able to talk about sexual If I start doing
Speaker 1: listen biologically, people go, you're an idiot.
Speaker 2: Don't speak to me.
Speaker 1: So we need more qualified people like you speaking about
Speaker 1: important issues in the world.
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 3: It's only people.
Speaker 4: Actually, a lot of people do ask in my in
Speaker 4: my private messages on only Fans. One thing I do
Speaker 4: like people and know is that I do answer all
Speaker 4: my messages on OnlyFans myself. I don't use that platform
Speaker 4: for for sexting. I use it for communicating, and a
Speaker 4: lot of people do ask me like really great questions
Speaker 4: about sexual health and about relationships and about you know,
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, and like it's have some great conversations
Speaker 4: in my only messaging and I love that, But I
Speaker 4: don't sext and a lot of people don't like that,
Speaker 4: but that's.
Speaker 2: All right, they'll get over it.
Speaker 1: They can enjoy the two videos a week and everything
Speaker 1: else and then head on over to Vixen and see
Speaker 1: all your scenes. But most importantly where they can head
Speaker 1: is the episode descriptions, so they can make sure they
Speaker 1: follow you across all social media.
Speaker 2: Folks.
Speaker 1: It's free, so at least if you have no money,
Speaker 1: you're broke. You can't sign up for the of follow
Speaker 1: her on social media, and most importantly, if you do
Speaker 1: have that, right there you go and hey on follow,
Speaker 1: follow all the Vixen accounts, and then when they post
Speaker 1: a clip of her scene, go, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: heard Serenity before.
Speaker 2: She's so great.
Speaker 1: You should have her on more and also pay her
Speaker 1: more money anyway, and give her more creative control. Type
Speaker 1: that out literally word for word, Serenity Cox. We can
Speaker 1: find you at Serenity Cox. And thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 3: Thanks for shotting with me. I'm going to watch a
Speaker 3: ballgame now,