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Speaker 1: Serenity Cox my guest tonight. You know exactly where you

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Speaker 2: Serenity. Is it a pleasure to meet you.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to meet you as well. Thanks for

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having me.

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Speaker 1: So I was driving in the car with my wife

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earlier and I was like, should I just hit her

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with some dumb fucking.

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Speaker 2: Joke right off the bat?

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Speaker 1: And I was going to say, did you think it

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was fate that you became a porn star with the

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last named Cox? And I was like, well, she'll definitely

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get it, but it's not funny. So I let me

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start and ask you, how did you initially get into

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the adult entertainment industry in whatever form that was, whether

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it was camming first or going right into scenes only fans,

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whatever you wanted to do. What was the thing that

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you jumped into where you crossed the line from vanilla

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to the world we live in.

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Speaker 4: It's so hard for me to answer that in a

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concise way. I tend to get really wordy because it

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was a very long journey with a lot of steps

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to it. It's a journey I took with my husband

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and it all started out with our exploring a hot

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wife dynamic in.

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Speaker 3: Our marriage, and then.

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Speaker 4: One thing led to another and eventually our content creation

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started was just sharing videos of our journey, and it

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started very low key. It started on the first flat

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platform we used was fet life, and then the second

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platform used was porn Hub. It was all just free

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stuff because we'd really we weren't in it to make money.

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We just wanted to share. We were so excited genuinely

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for our own like the shit that we were doing,

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we wanted other people to see it, so we were

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just like, this is great, let's put it out there.

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So it was just us having a blast and posting footage.

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Speaker 3: Of it on the internet.

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Speaker 4: And then a few years later it became actually like

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a conscious like kind of business. Still we're just filming

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our fucking around in our journey that we're having part

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of my language.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's how it started. It was just making

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videos of our journey.

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Speaker 1: So if this gets too personal, please stop me. Can

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I ask did you come into your marriage in a

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swinger open relationship type of situation. This is I've been

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interviewing so many performers who started as hot wife or

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swinger lifestyle, and I find it so fascinating because I've

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been with my wife for almost twenty years now.

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Speaker 2: We met when we were like nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight, so i have no concept of, like,

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you know, spreading out. I've never even, like, you know,

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been one of those Oh yeah, I went around fucking college.

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Now I've been with my wife the whole time. Was

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it something you went into your relationship with knowing this

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was the idea? Was it something that came up later

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where it was almost like we need to spice this

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up in a positive or negative way? What was the

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turn for you guys?

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Speaker 4: Again, it was just very like we went into our

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relationship totally regular monogamous.

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Speaker 3: I would say regular.

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Speaker 4: We were always very maybe adventurous in our sex life,

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but we were monogamous.

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Speaker 3: It was just the two of us.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't until later in our relationship that we decided

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to take a path into non monogamy and trying out

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new things.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I tried to Probably every interview I've done

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it has a different timeline.

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Speaker 3: They're like years, I thought I have this.

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Speaker 4: After seven I don't even remember, but there was a

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like it was a gradual change where our you know,

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are just between the two of us sex life started

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involving a lot of like worldplay about involving other people

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and a lot of fantasy talking about.

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Speaker 3: Involving other people.

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Speaker 4: And it became very apparent that, like my husband had

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these strong turn ons with involving me and other men,

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which I thought was really cool. I'd never even heard

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of that kind of thing before my relationship with him,

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and I don't even think he really knew until we

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did our you know, research together that there was a

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term for it, hot wife. So we kind of just

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explored these themes that both of us found exciting just

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in our it's just in our you know, solo bedroom time.

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Speaker 3: We started exploring them.

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Speaker 4: Together, and you know, over the years, like it was

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years and years, and then over the years we just

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kind of got a little bit more bold and more

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confident in our own relationship and thought, let's just do this,

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like there's nothing to lose here.

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Speaker 3: We're both you know.

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Speaker 4: So well connected and so confident and in our relationship

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that you know, let's just go for it.

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Speaker 3: So we just did.

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Speaker 1: Let me Okay, there was one thing you said in

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there that that got me interested. And let me say,

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first off, you don't have to tell me his actual

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job is your husband the general manager of a baseball team?

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Because I'm just wondering. You have the coolest layout I've

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ever had on this show. As my camera goes blurry,

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don't worry, my face isn't on this. What is what

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is going on there?

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Speaker 2: Can I ask that?

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Speaker 4: Well, in another hour or so, the Blue Jays are playing,

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so we booked one of the hotel rooms that.

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Speaker 3: Overlook the field.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, the game isn't on yet, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's an incredible thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you said something in there you were like,

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fuck it, what do we have to lose? I have

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read a few interviews with you where your husband is

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blurred in it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Was there any concern about jobs or anything like? Because

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the fun thing to say is there's nothing to lose

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as I put all of my body parts on the

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internet for people to see, and then the other reality

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of it, potentially there's things to lose over here.

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Speaker 2: Was there any like concern or fear about that?

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Speaker 3: I think I said I meant that about our relationship.

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Nothing to lose in content. We started with our lifestyle,

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so there was nothing.

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Speaker 4: We didn't feel there was anything to lose in our

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relationship because we were just so happy and it was

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a together thing. There definitely was some concern when we

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started posting online, and we took probably we were a

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bit naive in the beginning. We took some precautions like

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early early content, and those people who've been following me

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for a while know that I used to wear masks

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and or have like our faces not in it, and

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it was very like nobody knew we were doing this,

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but it was like the time and the genre, like

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it just became really popular really quickly, and then we

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made a conscious decision that I was going to show

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my face. And so at first when I started doing that,

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we like GEO blocked our province and like we you know,

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we're still a bit cautious about it. We weren't sure

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how people would react. But over time, like people did

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find out, and we made the decision to just lean

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into it because really we were just two happy people

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who who.

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Speaker 3: Liked sharing what we were doing on the internet.

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Speaker 4: And luckily it didn't you know, like I know, not

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every story is like the fairy tale that we had

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before us, Like we never had.

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Speaker 3: Any any issues.

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Speaker 4: There's a bit of like drama at my workplace when

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people first found out. There was a bit of a shock,

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but it's moved over fairly quickly, and you know, at

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the end of the day, I was it didn't change

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who I was at work with my friends and my family.

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you know, as a person, and you know, has had

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some interesting discussions with a lot of people who I

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normally wouldn't have those discussions with.

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Speaker 3: But it was kind of it was just a way

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of kind of like.

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Speaker 4: So part of what we were doing was even though yeah,

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it was just for a turn on for us and

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an exhibitionist thing, it was also I really liked the

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idea of normalizing relationships that were sort of outside the

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box or the society's norms.

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Speaker 3: So if we.

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Speaker 4: Were confident enough to do that in videos, I thought

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we should be confident enough to explain ourselves and talk

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about our passions with the people in our lives. So

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we did that, and we took that opportunity, which is

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a lot harder than putting it out there for faceless

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people on the internet.

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Speaker 3: But in the end, like it was, it was very healthy.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, that is that's a big jump for

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me personally. The thought of that is, you know, terrifying.

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Here show all of your miniscule parts to everybody in

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the world. The one thing you said, there was drama

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there at your other job. I'm only asking this because

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you have talked about that other job before, and it

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kind of leads into another part of the discussion. What

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was that other job? Do you still discuss just what

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it was, not where it was or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, I was a a nurse for most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was.

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Speaker 4: I was an immersed a nurse in the emergency department

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and yeah, just until last year.

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Speaker 1: That's so creat My wife and I are in the

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middle of an er watch for the first time and

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I the show.

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Speaker 2: We are ever CEO the show? We are yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: We're not just standing outside of the hospital like watching

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the people go in.

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Speaker 2: But it looks fucking insane. We watched the pit too.

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What is that on HBO? That one's really good too.

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Have you seen that?

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Speaker 1: Oh it's real good. HBO Max throw that on, but

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it looks fucking hectic and insane. So that leads me

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into my next question. They I've seen a bunch of

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articles recently and again I understand this is not the

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same concept. I'll show you how I'm going to tie

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it together. I read an article recently about how, like

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the number one profession where there's cheating going on is

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now nursing. It used to be like cops and firemen,

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and now it's nursing. What is it about nursing that

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maybe doesn't work with monogamy?

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Or no?

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? Did you get hit on by

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guys before you were in this open relationship?

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Speaker 4: In my experience, I didn't. I didn't find that was

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to be true in my in my really okay, I

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never I never cheated on my husband.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I without consent. Sure, not without him

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encouraging you to do it.

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Speaker 4: I also never mixed my my lifestyle and hobby of

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what my husband and I did with my workplace. And

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that was just the kind of person I was. It

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may have been happening, but I.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't aware of it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, Like none of my friends in

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the nursing profession, were you know, having affairs and cheating that.

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But I mean there's there's a lot of there's a

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lot of nurses out there, so true.

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Speaker 1: Sure, well let's I mean, let's let's play around with

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the psychology of it, maybe a little bit. You're seeing

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really tragic things all day, you can see, I mean,

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you're seeing positive things as well, somebody getting better at life,

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being saved, this and that. But you're watching people who

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pass away or a kid who comes in with an injury,

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and this and that, and then maybe mister hot doctor

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over there is the shoulder for you to really like

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kind of let it go on, and then you know,

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maybe he looks like he's got okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: That sense, I will say because with my colleagues, I've

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formed some very strong bonds, and a lot of it

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is around the you know, like trauma bonding. It's like

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around the things you see that other people in your

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life don't necessarily see or or don't quite get the

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same way. So there is a sense I've made strong

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friendships around that and had some really intense moments around that,

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but in a non sexual way. So I can see

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how others would sure bring that together in a in

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asexual way as well.

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Speaker 3: Like it that makes sense. You have a point.

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Speaker 1: There are two people I cannot make laugh in the world.

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There's a lot of other people, but there's two specific

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groups of people, and it's dominatrixes and nurses. I just

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bomb every time. I don't know why. You guys are

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too serious, too smart to deal with my stupidity. I

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respect that. I understand the world needs those people. So

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thank you for being a nurse for all of those

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years and saving lives. I have some swinger questions for you, right,

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and they might seem silly, but I'm coming at this

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from the street level person. I have, like I said,

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no understanding, and I really want to relay to people

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like it's maybe there are misconceptions here or there. Can

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I ask, are there any major misconceptions about the hot

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wife lifestyle? And how does hot wifing differ from any

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other type of swing? Are there different types of swinger lifestyles.

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Speaker 3: I'll start by saying I'm not an.

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Speaker 1: Expert in well, we'll do it all in your experience,

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experience perfect.

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Speaker 4: I will say that in my experience, I've met many

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couples who have various types of open relationships and consensual,

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non monogamous relationships, And it seems to me that each

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relationship is it may have.

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Speaker 3: Similar dynamics, but nobody's exactly the same.

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Speaker 4: Everyone has different rules, everyone has different comfort levels, everyone

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has slightly different dynamics.

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Speaker 3: And there's a whole spectrum.

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Speaker 4: Of swinging couples and hot wife couples and what they

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do or don't do.

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Speaker 3: So what was the question?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I asked too many questions at once. I made a

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nurse's life. I ask too many questions at once, and

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they just stack up. Essentially, are there any misconceptions from

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what you've seen? Like have you ever told anybody that?

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And they're almost like, oh my god, that's disgusting. You

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just let yourself get gang bang by fifty guys every night,

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And you're like, well, no, it's not quite like that.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely misconceptions the person people see when they watch

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my content. For example, people only see me in these

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scenarios and just assume that it's like every single day

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when really it's I mean, it's actually quite frequent, but

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but it's not, you know, it's not like ninety percent

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of my life is being a hot wife, that's just

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you know, a pastime, like some people you know, play

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hockey and.

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Speaker 3: I do this.

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Speaker 4: A misconception also, one misconception that a lot of just

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people in my personal life might have had when they

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first found out this what we're doing, is that it's

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it goes both ways. Some people think, you know, it's

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one person pressuring the other person to do something. So

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like my husband, you know, is you know, pushing me

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to have sex with other men, you know, for his enjoyment,

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And other people think that it's me, my poor husband,

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I'm out, you know, sleeping with all these men, when

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really it's like for us anyway, it was years and

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years of just like talking and growing together and making

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decisions about what we were going to do and what

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you know excited us, and we did this together.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's a little bit tricky with all life

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because it's kind of one.

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Speaker 4: Sided from an outside perspective because the woman is going

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and having all these experiences and the husband isn't.

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Speaker 3: So it does appear a little bit one sided. So

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there can be a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of misconceptions about that when really, you know, my enjoyment

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is coming from the experiences and his enjoyment is coming from,

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you know, seeing me having these experiences or bringing the

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stories home to him, and then the moments.

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Speaker 3: That we have afterwards.

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Speaker 4: So there is a lot of misconceptions about the drive

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behind those.

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Speaker 1: Kind of relationships, you know, and it's tough for people

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to see from the outside. But the relationships, the ones

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you described in the middle there that are not yours,

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the dominant woman telling the guy I'm gonna go get fucked,

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or the guy being like, you have to go do this,

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but they don't last unless they're like crazy, abusive and

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codependent and all this. And but those aren't like real

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lasting relationships. You're not going to find a couple who

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are ten years into the swinger lifestyle and the chicks like,

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I don't really like this that much ever, it just

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I don't. That is a misconception, Like it seems like

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if you were in this and everyone's happy, then this

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is maybe how you were supposed to be, Like, I

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don't understand why anyone comments on anybody else's happiness.

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Speaker 2: That's just me going off on a rant there. So

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I apologize.

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Speaker 4: Every beautiful thing about human beings is where you know,

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even though we're all the same species, we're also very

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different and we all, you know, we're allowed to have

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different types of relationships and what works for one person

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it doesn't have to work for somebody else. As long

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as we're happy and you found that person who has

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the same you know, path to happiness as you do.

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Speaker 3: It's it's fun. We can all have our different you

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know paths and sure sure.

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Speaker 1: Two last questions about swinger lifestyle. Number one, do you

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guys have rules set up or is it just a

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constant communication like is there something you know not to

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bring to him because he doesn't he's not into this.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and yes, so we do have some rules for example,

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like there's certain things that we're not into. Some hot

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wife couples are into get us thrill out of a

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little bit of degradation or cooking my personal relationship, or

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we're not into that. I don't you know, make a

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big scene about like how much better another guy is

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than my husband and or like deny my husband. And

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some people are like that and they both really love

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it and get off on it, and that's cool, but

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that's just for us.

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Speaker 3: We don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Another thing is we're not polyamorous. So as many guys

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as I you know, can go out and see or

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even befriend, it doesn't turn into a romantic thing. And

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I don't have like a romantic relationship with other guys

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who are not my husband. It's more just like a fun,

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free and sexual kind of relationship.

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Speaker 3: Those all these things across that kind of line. That's

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obviously a hard rule that we have.

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Speaker 1: That just brought up another question. So two more questions

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about the swinger lifestyle. This one here is have you

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had to push people away after the fact, either men

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or women or anything in this life? And I apologize,

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Is your husband allowed to do you guys go both ways?

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Is it just about the enjoyment he has watching you

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not go both ways? And you know what I meant, like,

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is he allowed to be with women as well?

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Speaker 4: For sure he is. He hasn't gone out and had

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sex with other women. He's like, we've been in group

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situations where he's like had you know, like low jobs

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or like sexy contact with other women, but he hasn't

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actually like like gone out way I do it and

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like had sex with another woman. I would be totally

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cool with it if he did, but we just haven't.

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And maybe it will in the future, but at this point.

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It just hasn't been something that we've jud.

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Speaker 1: Sure that makes almost this last question a little bit moot,

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But I always love asking this to people in the lifestyle.

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Has any one of you ever it would be better

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if he was also engaging with women? But have either

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of you ever taken a bullet for the other one?

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I love the concept of a swinger couple meeting a

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couple and the guy in that other couple is like gorgeous,

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and the girls like and the wife's like, look, you're

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gonna have to You're gonna have to do that, okay,

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or vice versa. You know, maybe the guy is looks

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like me and the woman there is like this, yuck,

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I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: Has anyone ever had to take a bullet?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been like, like, I'm not saying it

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would go you would be you know, I don't want

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to do that. But has he been like, yeoh, you

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should be with that guy and you've been a little

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bit like, eh, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't say that you've had situation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, but no, it doesn't really

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apply to us.

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Speaker 1: The experiences that we've had okay, all right, fair enough,

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fair enough, let me get into some of your content.

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Speaker 2: Here. You are, I believe, still a Vixen girl.

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Speaker 1: Damn yes, what is I interviewed someone the other day

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who her first entrance into this She goes to Brassers

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contact at me, and I'm just thinking of all the

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performers out there who try and put together they're only

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fans and this and that, and this beautiful girl over here.

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Brasers just gives her a call and goes, hey, do

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you want to like do real big time stuff. So

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as I'm looking at your list of things you've done,

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which I do a little game called stat check, we'll

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go to that in a little bit. I mean it's

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all Vixen sites. That was your jump into the mainstream, right,

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Like I assume you produced a lot of your own

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content for a while and then the jump into mainstream or.

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Speaker 4: No, So I my main my main content is still

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my own content.

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Speaker 3: Sure, very Vixen. I love you, Vixen.

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Speaker 4: I'm still I'm under contract with Vixen as well, and

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that's my professional my professional work. But you know, there's

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the two branches of the adult industry. There's the amateur

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or you know, independent content creators and there, and there's

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the professional studio house uh big time productions, right, I

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do both. So my main thing that I do on

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a day to day basis is my only fans, my

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port and hub, my my husband and I making our

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own content, ruing around with friends, just having a good time,

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going to ball games, you know, making content out of it,

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and like that's like, that's that's our joy, that's what

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we do. Vixen came Uplong I guess two years ago now,

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and I had no idea because I didn't really I

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didn't know anything about porn. I just knew that like

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our you know, our own stuff that we do, and

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like I didn't know mainstream porn. And Vixen comes along

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and says like, hey, we have this new channel it's

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called Milfie and would you be interested in in like

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doing like production porn. And at first I was just like, like,

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who who's Vixen? When really like they're like.

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Speaker 2: Like, who's bank Bros. I've never heard of these brothers before. Yeah, okay, yes,

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ye yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they came because I obviously it makes sense for

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them to seek it because independent OnlyFans, amateur stuff is

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so big, right, now and a lot of these girls

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have such big followings. It makes sense for these you know,

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mainstream companies to get those girls so they can get

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their audiences, right. So I'm sure like they were looking

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to see who's doing what, and anyway, I guess they

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came across me, reached out, and then several months later, I,

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you know, I gave them a shot. I had no

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interest in doing you know, professional porn because I was like,

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I don't do acting like I want. I'm showing my

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real life. I'm showing you know what I do. I'm

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not an actor. But they were so sweet. They were

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so absolutely sweet, and they made this hot white scene

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for me to do, and like Kingen Cross wrote this

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scrip and directed it and it was just very simple,

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but it was something that I was familiar with, something

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that I was comfortable with, and so I went out

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to LA and I shot this like twenty twenty three

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and it was so much fun. And then after that,

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like you know, I did a few more and then

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they signed me and now I do you know, ten

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scenes a year or something, and we kind of incorporated

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that into our own hot Wife dynamic because it was

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the first time that I that I.

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Speaker 3: Was doing something without my husband.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've had, you know, pressure, but it was

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the first time I've done something you know, content or

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video related without him, because he films everything, edits everything,

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like we worked.

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00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,079
Speaker 3: Together as a team, and so I was.

481
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure how that would work, but he was like,

482
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:09,000
this is actually really exciting because you know, we can

483
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:10,519
think about it, like I go on these dates and

484
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,319
I come home and I tell him all about it,

485
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,640
and he's like, it's like, you're going on these dates,

486
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,960
but only you're going out to like these fantasy scenarios

487
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,519
that Vixen can write for you and having these experiences

488
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:24,640
that you wouldn't necessarily have, you know, with guys you

489
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240
know here in Toronto.

490
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,599
Speaker 3: I look, but you know, it was it's just like

491
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,319
these things.

492
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: And then I, you know, I come back to him

493
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,839
and I tell them all about my experiences on set

494
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960
and that feeds into our dynamic that we love. So

495
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,240
I do that, but I still also do my my

496
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,559
independent stuff at the same time.

497
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,559
Speaker 1: Not that I think you're going to like the bad

498
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,680
part of town to film scenes, but there's also it's safer.

499
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,599
I would think for the most part, you hear some

500
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,400
bad stories about mainstream sets. But for the most part,

501
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:58,039
it's also safer. It's like you're going into an environment

502
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:00,720
with a professional. If you were my wife, I'm into

503
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,519
this and I'm sending you out, I go, oh, this

504
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,680
is the best way for her not to be killed

505
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,519
in a hotel room or something like that.

506
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: So exactly, like some of these scenarios that I've been

507
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,160
able to like act out or like you know, do

508
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:14,400
on a Vixen set are things.

509
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: That you know. It's because sometimes you have a fantasy

510
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:17,400
but it doesn't.

511
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 4: Really make sense in reality because a, yeah, it's not

512
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,440
safe or it's not you know, something that you can

513
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
make happen in a way that makes sense. But you know,

514
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,440
in a set you can and you can live out

515
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359
these fantasies and then bring it home in.

516
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:31,599
Speaker 3: A controlled and safe way.

517
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,519
Speaker 4: And Vixen were just That's the thing I learned was

518
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,400
like they're so wonderful to their performers, Like.

519
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,039
Speaker 3: They'll play me out there, they take care of me.

520
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: They'll like take me out to dinner and ask me

521
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,799
to make sure that you know the debrief afterwards, make

522
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:45,519
sure that I'm comfortable and I'm okay.

523
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:46,599
Speaker 3: And it just.

524
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: Felt so you know nice, and I had no idea

525
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,240
before before I met them.

526
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,559
Speaker 3: And then when I talk to other people the like

527
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:54,880
you know.

528
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,799
Speaker 4: Most people, they do a lot of other stuff and

529
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,400
then they get to the you know, companies like Vixen.

530
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Don't know you literally, I mean you literally.

531
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,279
Speaker 1: This starts out at I think Vixen shoots the most

532
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,440
beautiful stuff. Now that's not everybody's preference, that's not even

533
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,640
necessarily my preference. But you can't say the color isn't beautiful,

534
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,880
the quality isn't beautiful, the camera, I mean everything works.

535
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,279
Speaker 4: Me.

536
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm a gritty, dirty scumbag. I like the middle of

537
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,720
the road stuff. But yeah, I mean you can't start

538
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,680
on like a better company than that. So congratulations on that.

539
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,319
That is awesome. That is hard work, and you're right.

540
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,000
I never knew this until I started doing this show.

541
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,880
But I also do another kind of side show called

542
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,920
Brand New Faces, where I bring on new girls who

543
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,839
are trying to get into the industry and kind of

544
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720
tell them what I know, get their story, see if

545
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:52,160
they're really like into this. And through doing this, I

546
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
have learned that there is a whole nother tier that

547
00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,000
is equally as big as the mainstream in the independent girls.

548
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,160
Like I would see a girl and someone would say

549
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,160
that girl does only fans and would go, oh, I

550
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,119
can try and get her on go on, and she

551
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,839
has a million followers. Where the fuck did these come from? Like,

552
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,240
I mean, this is this is my ignorance. This is

553
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:14,119
just some independent girl quote unquote.

554
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: You know.

555
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,599
Speaker 1: So it's really nice that there's a crossover. Now, what's

556
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,720
really cool about it is I feel like it puts

557
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,720
more power in your hands being able, because you are

558
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,039
the one that can turn down Vixen. You're not a

559
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,519
woman emailing Vixen going I need to be on your

560
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,119
site please, blah blah blah. How much creative control did

561
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,039
you have over those scenes or did you step back

562
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,680
and go I'm going to experience this from the other side.

563
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,279
Speaker 4: They're actually really I haven't taken too much creative control

564
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:46,119
at this point, but they are very open to Like

565
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,839
they've told me numerous times. We're just like, let's know

566
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,119
what you want to do. If there's anything you want, like,

567
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,839
tell us and we'll make it happen. So maybe we're

568
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,119
discussing my next year of contracts, so you know, maybe

569
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,359
I'll get a little more creative. But for right now

570
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,640
I just kind of of, you know, I give some

571
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,160
ideas and they'd make it happen. There's something I can't

572
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,920
talk about it yet. There's something coming out that I

573
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,000
really wanted to do, and they've you know, made it happen.

574
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,319
Speaker 3: Uh So later this summer it's gonna.

575
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: It's going to be out there and the other thing

576
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:21,680
that like creative control. Yeah. But also there was one

577
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,880
scene I did where I kept thinking back to one

578
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,839
part of it where I wasn't sure. There was some

579
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,519
things I said in like the dirty Chalk. I was like,

580
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,720
I was kind of cringing trying to remember what I

581
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,640
had said, and I was like, I wanted, like, I'm

582
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,200
not sure if I if I felt like that was

583
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,480
totally me what I said, And they let me completely

584
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,160
review the scene before it was out and go through

585
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,559
it and let them know if they hadn't ship I

586
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,079
was it was just me overthinking.

587
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,319
Speaker 3: When I watched it back, it was beautiful, It was fine.

588
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: Everything I said was totally respectful and like, you know,

589
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,759
it was it was all.

590
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:51,799
Speaker 3: It was all great.

591
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,759
Speaker 4: But the fact that they, you know, gave me like

592
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,319
a file of a meet that's not been out yet

593
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:01,000
and let me review and they said they would change

594
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,519
it if I was not okay with it, Like that

595
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,400
was like, that was I thought pretty big professional.

596
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 1: It's it's not you know, there's this perception of porn

597
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:12,079
from the outside. It's like, oh, Serenity comes on, she

598
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,400
gets fucked, and then she goes. They don't account for

599
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,279
the other ninety five percent of your work that's social media, editing,

600
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,200
this that, blah blah blah, And they also don't account

601
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640
for like you know, in the moment, can I ask

602
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,519
this so you said offensive?

603
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 4: Was it?

604
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me what it was. Was

605
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,640
it offensive or was it? Did you find it corny

606
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:34,960
what you had said when you thought back, like were

607
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,519
you like, ooh, you got the biggest fucking muscles and

608
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,799
the guy's like that's not really dirty talk, Ooh your

609
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,559
fucking hairline is wonderful. It's like, well, Serenity, that's not

610
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,839
getting Dick's hard. Was it it was just something? Or

611
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,720
was it overly aggressive, like come on, bitch and you're like, well, look,

612
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:57,759
you're supposed to be more sub in this scene. It was.

613
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:02,559
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.

614
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, there's something.

615
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: Belled a little bit out of out of character, but but.

616
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: No, it was okay. I don't know in my mind,

617
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,519
like sometimes you just like say a lot of things.

618
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,039
Speaker 2: Sure, and that's.

619
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: That beats too quiet though saying saying a lot of things.

620
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:21,279
Speaker 2: But you're right.

621
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,559
Speaker 1: I only recently got my wife into dirty talking because

622
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,279
we're just too cynical for it. We've always been. I'd

623
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,839
be like, do you want me to fuck you hard?

624
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,480
And she'd be like, I don't know, can you fuck

625
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,079
me hard? I guess, And it's like, well the mood

626
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,359
is killed now. Now I can't say another word. We

627
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,759
got to be silent, but I kind of expressed to her.

628
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,480
I was like, look what we're saying. I will never

629
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,200
judge you for this. I am like a big mouth

630
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,039
and I call people out and I joke and this

631
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,000
is now busballs here, but anything in here, this is

632
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:52,200
us And you're totally good. Whatever you say, I won't

633
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880
call you out for it. And that's been opening up

634
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,279
and that's a that's a nice thing. So if you

635
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,880
secretly want to slide in thing, you're going to be

636
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,599
shooting into this list. But let me ask you, what

637
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,279
are some types of scenes or niches or fetishes or

638
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,480
anything like that that you're looking forward to adding to

639
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,880
your portfolio in the next year or so, something where

640
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,799
you're like, man, I need to shoot that type of

641
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,279
scene because I don't have that in my repertoire. And

642
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,640
it can be multiple too, whenever you get so.

643
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: In my personal independent stuff we do, we do a

644
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,599
variety of everything. We do kind of fetishi stuff we

645
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680
do like it's mostly like two guys and a girl

646
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,160
stuff we do like bondage, we do soft, we do

647
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,759
hard like it's just so we do a little variety

648
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,920
of everything. But in the in the Vixen stuff, I

649
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,079
want to do more of their deeper channel, which I

650
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,039
did tell them and I did one scene with deeper,

651
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:50,200
but it was a hot wife scene.

652
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 3: It was really hot.

653
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: It was it was great, but I was like, you know,

654
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:57,200
that's cool, Like deeper is there like kink fetish, like

655
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,559
a little bit more out there channel.

656
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:03,799
Speaker 3: And we did hot wife, which was like cool because

657
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:04,599
I'm comfortable with it.

658
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: But I said, you know, next time, I want to

659
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,920
do it deeper with like lots of like shiny pretty

660
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,279
bondage or like something like a lot of like rope something.

661
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,839
Really you know, we do it in our private life,

662
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:17,559
but I want to do it in a way where they.

663
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,599
Speaker 3: Like make it look beautiful, you know what I mean.

664
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,039
Speaker 4: So I want that that vixen touch on the on

665
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,640
the you know, rope work or bondage or you know,

666
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:31,480
using like the highest end of a beautiful chink ware.

667
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just want to.

668
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Like know, that makes total sense to me. You want

669
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,160
to see the thing that you like doing occasionally or

670
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,960
often or whatever it is, you want to see it

671
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,720
in the highest scale, right, Like, do you watch back

672
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,359
your own stuff, not for like editing purposes or anything.

673
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Do you ever like you're with your husband, you're like, oh,

674
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:51,279
getting frisky and then you're like, oh, put one of

675
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:52,440
them really.

676
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: All the time?

677
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watch our own stuff. I don't

678
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:02,039
watch very much porn at all anymore. That sounds that

679
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,799
sounds kind of terrible, But no, because you know how

680
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,640
you were feeling in that moment, so we and we

681
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200
have so much content now, so yeah, we'll go back

682
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,839
through own stuff and watch it and you know, have

683
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,640
a good time with that.

684
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,079
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound terrible. It sounds like when you work

685
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,359
at Starbucks and after like six months, you're like, I

686
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,119
can't fucking smell coffee anymore.

687
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to lose my mind.

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I love coffee, but if you

689
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:26,839
work there long enough, you just kind of like, ah,

690
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920
I've seen it all. So is that why you don't

691
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,720
watch porn and you're like, eh, I know all that,

692
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,799
or you just don't really find a need for it.

693
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 3: Because I don't find a need for it. It's because

694
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,119
I like what we do.

695
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: The only time, you know, I do watch porn when

696
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,480
I want inspiration or like, for example, if we're if

697
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,039
we're playing around with like DP or something, that's like

698
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,400
you know, you finding the right angles to show it off.

699
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: And you know, we have limited people in our independent stuff.

700
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: We don't have a whole studio to get all like

701
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,039
the the right angles and everything. So you know, watching

702
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,160
it for seeing what other people do who are doing

703
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,440
you know, scenes that I want to do. So that's

704
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,519
kind of I don't really want you to get off.

705
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:12,119
I'll watch it to learn.

706
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to get off. We just watch our

707
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,599
own experiences.

708
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: Really, Oh my god, that is such confidence. Congratulations on

709
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,880
having that confidence. I couldn't imagine that I would be

710
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,599
so disgusted with myself. So your typical stuff is two

711
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,960
guys and a girl. You said, right, two guys in

712
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,360
you do you have like a constant guy you go

713
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,119
back to? Does that switch out? Like how do you

714
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,800
schedule and like plan your own personal stuff?

715
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,079
Speaker 3: So, sorry, it's getting louder here. I hope that's not.

716
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:47,559
Speaker 4: Now.

717
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: You're good, don't what are you gonna do? Shut it down?

718
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,320
You're good, You're fine. We'll work around it, Okay.

719
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: So for our own stuff, we do have one very

720
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,159
good friend who's bless his heart, He's like he's always

721
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:06,159
down to film something and that's been such a like

722
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,480
he's such a good time. So a lot of our

723
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,880
content is with one of our good friends. But we

724
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,840
do switch it up like I'll have you know, I

725
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,599
still I still go out on the dating apps and

726
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,679
like find guys and you know, I do this segment

727
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:21,480
and my only fans.

728
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: Called a date Diary.

729
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: Where I'll go out and on a date with a

730
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,920
new guy and like stuff there's so and then I'll

731
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,519
you know, hook up with other content.

732
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,199
Speaker 3: Creator gentlemen, and you know, we do we do that.

733
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: But like for our we have a very small group

734
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,159
of our regular folks that we do content with, or

735
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:46,199
we don't always do content, like we still have threesomes

736
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:48,559
outside of filming, just for our own fun.

737
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:54,039
Speaker 1: Really okay, all right, nice? So where do we see

738
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,760
this going? It sounds like you got in for the

739
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,159
purest reason. It feels like where you were like, this

740
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,840
is fun, this is I enjoy doing this. My first uh,

741
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,039
my first podcast was a comedy show and we had listeners,

742
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,320
but we didn't have as many listeners as this does.

743
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,559
Speaker 2: But it was just fun. You would just jump on.

744
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,079
Speaker 1: I would talk to my friend every week for an hour,

745
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,159
cut it up, post it.

746
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,119
Speaker 2: It was great. So you got into this for the

747
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:18,760
right reasons.

748
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: I speak to a lot of performers who are like,

749
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,280
I'm trying to get to this and I'm out. I

750
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,039
have no interest in this. Do you have any like

751
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,000
major goal or milestone that you were looking to hit?

752
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,599
Is it retirement? Is it you want to film the

753
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,519
world's biggest gang bang and you're done? Do you want

754
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,480
to start keep doing like guilf porn at seventy five

755
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:39,039
years old?

756
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: Like, where do you see your road going?

757
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,679
Speaker 4: For us, it's when it's all being fun. We're done

758
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,719
right now. It's still really fun and we are lucky.

759
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,719
I say we because you know it's not just Sarinity Cox,

760
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,440
like my husband is a partner in it. Like we're

761
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:03,719
lucky because both of us have professions that we can

762
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,360
fall back on.

763
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,519
Speaker 3: We don't need to be doing this.

764
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 4: We're doing this because it's an absolute blast, and luckily

765
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,119
we've both taken breaks from our other professions because this,

766
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,760
I like, supports some much better than our other professions did.

767
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,360
And we're just so fortunate to be able to do this.

768
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,159
So we're just rolling with it. And when and if this,

769
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,639
you know, isn't doing it for us anymore, then you know,

770
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,039
we'll stop. We have things that we can fall back on,

771
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,840
and we'll still be doing the lifestyle things. We'll still

772
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,400
be you know, screwing around with our friends and.

773
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,159
Speaker 3: Just having fun.

774
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:41,519
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

775
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll be set up financially from this so that

776
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,760
we won't have to go back to work. And that

777
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,360
is the goal.

778
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: That is That's always the goal. I ask this every time,

779
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:58,119
is there any kind of type of scene? I used

780
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,360
to call this game sack shit Animal and kids, I

781
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,079
would ask, is there a type of scene or something

782
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,119
you wouldn't want to shoot? And performers would be like, well,

783
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,280
I wouldn't fuck a kid, and I'd be like, yeah, no,

784
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,159
I got that. Those are off the table. We're not

785
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,159
talking about you know, like deprecation type stuff. Kids are animals,

786
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:18,599
all right out. So when I ask you this, let's

787
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,679
work within the realm of pornography you can find on

788
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,440
the internet, not the dark Web. Is there any type

789
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,920
of scene that you have no interest in pursuing that

790
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,960
they come to you the Vixen's you know the deal. Whatever,

791
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,519
a site comes to you and you're able to take

792
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,760
it potentially, and they go, we want you to shoot

793
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960
this type of scene, and you immediately just kind of go, Now,

794
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,159
it's not really me. Doesn't fit my brand, doesn't fit

795
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:47,199
my personality. Is there anything that's kind of out Not

796
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,719
a nurse?

797
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Okay? All right?

798
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,039
Speaker 1: Are you scared you're gonna get pigeonholed into the same

799
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,239
role every time? Oh, let's just get throundy.

800
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: She's a nurse. Yeah, go ahead, No, because it's so

801
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:01,639
to No.

802
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 4: It just bugs me because I feel like it's such

803
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,480
a sexualized profession. And whenever people find out that I'm

804
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:09,480
a nurse, they're like, oh, you should do nurse poor

805
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,440
and you should be the like slutty nurse. And I'm

806
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,639
like no, and I don't, like, I know a lot

807
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,239
of people do it. It's fine, Like it's it's fine.

808
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,519
Speaker 3: I'm not.

809
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm not that you know, hurt or offended by it.

810
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,679
But I just see how hard and there's a lot

811
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,679
of professions like this, how hard like women of work

812
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:33,199
to be taken seriously in specific professions, and I just

813
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
don't want to add to that, you know.

814
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Sexualization of those professions. So I don't do teacher porn.

815
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,880
I don't do nurse porn.

816
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: I don't do police officer or army chick or like

817
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,000
any of these things.

818
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 3: That like I feel, I just don't feel good about that.

819
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Totally understand. I that is such an interesting perspective. I've

820
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,159
never thought of that before. You respect how much goes

821
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,360
into that profession, So you don't want to do like

822
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,960
a characterization or a cartoon of it, almost right, is

823
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,599
that what it sounds like?

824
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 4: And I know it's lighthearted and like, you know, we

825
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,000
know that it's just a fantasy when people are doing

826
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,679
it important, but just for me personally, I'm like, I

827
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,639
can't go there.

828
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,039
Speaker 1: I interviewed Gage, who was a major porn star in

829
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,519
the early two thousand. One of my favorites, you know,

830
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:24,199
right around the time I turned eighteen, definitely not fifteen

831
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,920
years old, so one of my favorites of all time.

832
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,719
And she told us, you know, in depth, I grew

833
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,800
up in Arkansas. It was very racist down there. It

834
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,280
was blah blah blah blah blah. So I had the question, like,

835
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,559
did you have any concerns or issues doing interracial porns?

836
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,880
She said interracial was totally fine. The stuff she wouldn't

837
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,400
do with stepbrother and stepsister because she said everyone back

838
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,559
in my town was doing that already, and I did

839
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,719
not want to get judged for that. And I was like,

840
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,360
you know what, respect, I totally get it. There's you

841
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,480
don't want to Yeah, I get that, sir Annie. So

842
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,079
I kind of asked it, a but what is the

843
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,159
future hold do we? What can I expect if I

844
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,079
go on your only fans right now? By the way,

845
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,480
folks at Serenity Cox links in the episode description, as

846
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:14,119
always as they always are, we support creators here. Am

847
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,719
I getting any nut that I want it?

848
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: But?

849
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Am I getting any polished stuff? Am I getting you?

850
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,159
And your daily life with your husband?

851
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,519
Speaker 2: Am I? I know you do no pay per view?

852
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:26,960
I believe I read that.

853
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: That's correct.

854
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, awesome. So what is the experience, the Serenity

855
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Cox experience if I sign up for your of today?

856
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so the Serenity Cox experience if you never pronosi

857
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:39,000
this is great.

858
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,159
Speaker 3: So my only fans is uh, subscription only, no pay

859
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:44,519
per view.

860
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

861
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: It is just two videos a week of me and

862
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:54,400
my lifestyle doing what we do. Generally, it's my husband

863
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,760
filming me with a gentleman, sometimes with a lady and

864
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,199
sometimes other two videos a week, plus little updates in

865
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,239
between photos and that. But I get asked a lot.

866
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,880
I don't do any of the paid custom stuff. I

867
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,639
don't see any of the pay per view stuff. It's

868
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,280
just what I want to post and I'm just thankful

869
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,280
when people want to tune in and watch that. And

870
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,360
I also do a monthly live stream, which is always

871
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,480
my most fun time of the month. Is just an

872
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,800
hour of intimate uh on well people on one with.

873
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Sure, I have to say, and I'm not just blown

874
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,000
smoke care. I really respect that you are in this.

875
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,800
It seems like for the right reasons. And I think

876
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360
your message is awesome. I think your message on fucking

877
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,119
nursing is awesome and I've never considered that before. I

878
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:52,320
have read you are very tied in with sexual health,

879
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,159
and you promote that right really hard.

880
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,199
Speaker 3: And do you like to promote sexual health?

881
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

882
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: Sure, I just kind of let it go.

883
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: Should all be promoting sexual health in this industry?

884
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're qualified to do it.

885
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: If I stand on a corner handing out condoms, I

886
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,159
look like a real fucking weirdo.

887
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: You're a nurse.

888
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,119
Speaker 1: You're able to talk about sexual If I start doing

889
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,159
listen biologically, people go, you're an idiot.

890
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: Don't speak to me.

891
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,199
Speaker 1: So we need more qualified people like you speaking about

892
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,719
important issues in the world.

893
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you for that.

894
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: It's only people.

895
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:26,639
Speaker 4: Actually, a lot of people do ask in my in

896
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:30,119
my private messages on only Fans. One thing I do

897
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:31,480
like people and know is that I do answer all

898
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,760
my messages on OnlyFans myself. I don't use that platform

899
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,760
for for sexting. I use it for communicating, and a

900
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,880
lot of people do ask me like really great questions

901
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,159
about sexual health and about relationships and about you know,

902
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,400
what I'm doing, and like it's have some great conversations

903
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,960
in my only messaging and I love that, But I

904
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,800
don't sext and a lot of people don't like that,

905
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,159
but that's.

906
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,079
Speaker 2: All right, they'll get over it.

907
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: They can enjoy the two videos a week and everything

908
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920
else and then head on over to Vixen and see

909
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,000
all your scenes. But most importantly where they can head

910
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,039
is the episode descriptions, so they can make sure they

911
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:09,960
follow you across all social media.

912
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,639
Speaker 2: Folks.

913
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,039
Speaker 1: It's free, so at least if you have no money,

914
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,519
you're broke. You can't sign up for the of follow

915
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:20,880
her on social media, and most importantly, if you do

916
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,880
have that, right there you go and hey on follow,

917
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,440
follow all the Vixen accounts, and then when they post

918
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,519
a clip of her scene, go, oh my god, I

919
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:31,480
heard Serenity before.

920
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,159
Speaker 2: She's so great.

921
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: You should have her on more and also pay her

922
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,639
more money anyway, and give her more creative control. Type

923
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:42,599
that out literally word for word, Serenity Cox. We can

924
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,000
find you at Serenity Cox. And thank you so much

925
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,079
for coming on with me tonight.

926
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for shotting with me. I'm going to watch a

927
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,679
ballgame now,