Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Koston's video.
Speaker 2: A tough night for the Bruins. They were ahead when nothing.
Speaker 2: Now they're behind three to one, sort of like the season.
Speaker 2: They started off pretty well and ever since January first
Speaker 2: has been not been great. Well, anyway, it wasn't great
Speaker 2: yesterday in Canton. I don't know how many of you
Speaker 2: heard about this story, but I got some questions about it.
Speaker 2: The story that we're talking about is a story that
Speaker 2: we've heard before. Okay, there's a vehicle in this case. Yesterday,
Speaker 2: it was a tractor trailer truck that was stuck on
Speaker 2: a railroad crossing, and there was an MBTA train, a
Speaker 2: commuter rail train, that ran into the tractor trailer truck
Speaker 2: tractor trailer and pushed it down the track. On Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Thank god, there was well, there was only an injury
Speaker 2: of one passenger. Sure power lines were knocked out, but
Speaker 2: it was quite a mess. Those of you who live
Speaker 2: in that neck of the woods or maybe were impacted
Speaker 2: by this. Had happened yesterday afternoon about one at a
Speaker 2: crossing on Pine Street. According to Canton Police, the truck
Speaker 2: was traveling. I'm reading here from a Globe article which
Speaker 2: was posted late yesterday afternoon by Nick Stoiko and Sarah
Speaker 2: Mesheidian Globe staff and Globe correspondent. The truck driver escaped
Speaker 2: just before impact was not injured. A train passenger complained
Speaker 2: of neck and back pain, taken to a local hospital
Speaker 2: with minor injuries. Some power lines were knocked down, and
Speaker 2: the fire chief said luckily no major injuries could have
Speaker 2: been worse. Crashes under investigation by the MBTA Transit Police.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they get federal authorities involved in
Speaker 2: this at this point, but maybe they're going to get
Speaker 2: involved as well, according to Transit Police Superintendent Richard Sullivan.
Speaker 2: He responded an email, we're investigating the facts and circumstances
Speaker 2: surrounding the incident, and this is what is interesting. It
Speaker 2: says all proper safety warnings were functioning and operating as expected.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to come back to that sentence, Okay,
Speaker 2: how the tractor trailer truck was on the tracks and
Speaker 2: the gates in front of the gate or the gate
Speaker 2: came down in front of it and behind it. We'll
Speaker 2: get to that. In a moment. I looked at the
Speaker 2: video of the crash. Someone was they were in another
Speaker 2: vehicle and they were rollings in videotape and you could
Speaker 2: see this train just was barrel and I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk about that as well. Images posted online by police
Speaker 2: showed a heavily damn imaged something a Ross Express truck.
Speaker 2: I have no idea perpendicular to the train. I'll bet
Speaker 2: it was. It appeared the train that pushed the truck
Speaker 2: down the track away from the crossing were to appear
Speaker 2: at the gates were at least partially drawn down and
Speaker 2: were damagedols of course runs the MBTA Computer Train Company
Speaker 2: System said, the company that said in a statement that
Speaker 2: the crossing gates at lights were operating as intended. So
Speaker 2: that's from Keolas and the Transit Police. Superintendent Sullivan said
Speaker 2: the proper safety warnings were functioning and operating as expected,
Speaker 2: which would basically I think from Keola's and the MPTA
Speaker 2: point somewhat of an accusation against the driver. I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in doing that, but that's okay. The company had
Speaker 2: no comment. The trucking company is based in New England,
Speaker 2: with its main office up in New Hampshire and office
Speaker 2: delivery service across New England, Delaware, Maryland, in New Jersey
Speaker 2: as well as parts of New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and
Speaker 2: West Virginia. According to its website, shuttle busses took passages
Speaker 2: between Stote and Canton. The MVTA police this is a
Speaker 2: piece from yesterday set on social media that the Stoke
Speaker 2: Line trains would terminate and originate at Canton Center. Crash
Speaker 2: happened at the same crossing where a train crashed into
Speaker 2: a car on February twenty seventh, so that's less than
Speaker 2: two months ago, about six weeks ago. The driver of
Speaker 2: that car, forty nine year old woman, was taken to
Speaker 2: the hospital with minor injuries. So here's my question. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of questions here, and some of you,
Speaker 2: probably I hope, have more knowledge of this than maybe
Speaker 2: I do. Why can't there be a system created which
Speaker 2: would tell trains that you know a mile away that
Speaker 2: there's a truck that is on a crossing. Now, there
Speaker 2: could be lots of reasons a truck could be on
Speaker 2: a crossing, could be I guess, and maybe it's a
Speaker 2: one in a ten thousand shot that the truck is
Speaker 2: going across the crossing and at that very moment the
Speaker 2: truck stalls or whatever, not likely. Okay, Maybe here the
Speaker 2: driver attempted to cross the crossing, didn't realize how close
Speaker 2: the train was, and all of a sudden, down comes
Speaker 2: the gate in front of him and at the same
Speaker 2: time the gate behind him. So the truck is in
Speaker 2: the crossing. Now, if it was someone's car, they could
Speaker 2: probably swing around the gate. But my question is this,
Speaker 2: if the truck was operational, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was okay, but if the truck was operational, why
Speaker 2: would the truck driver or anyone if you were in
Speaker 2: that situation and your car was somehow trapped between these
Speaker 2: two gates and all it is is just in arms
Speaker 2: comes down. That's a piece of wood or a piece
Speaker 2: of metal that comes down in front of you and
Speaker 2: behind you, why would you not at that point say
Speaker 2: to yourself, well, I can't get around this. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and allow my car on my truck
Speaker 2: to be demolished by this train. And of course you're
Speaker 2: not going through it the way I'm going through it. Now,
Speaker 2: it's like an instantaneous decision. I'm gunning it through the gate.
Speaker 2: I might damage my vehicle a little bit, I might
Speaker 2: damage the gate that has come down a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it's a lot better that those little damages be done.
Speaker 2: Whether it was the fault again of the driver in
Speaker 2: this case or in any case. I'm not looking to
Speaker 2: blame the driver here. I have no idea who was
Speaker 2: at fault here. But what I'm saying is you're there,
Speaker 2: you're on the crossing, you see a quarter of a
Speaker 2: mile away or whatever, or you hear the train coming,
Speaker 2: get off the track. You'll you obviously, if for some
Speaker 2: reason your car has been can't move, well, you got
Speaker 2: to get out of the car. Okay. I analogize this too.
Speaker 2: How many times have you been in traffic on a
Speaker 2: road like Route nine. I'm not talking about one four
Speaker 2: ninety five, but how long? How many times you've been
Speaker 2: out there on a road on Route nine and you
Speaker 2: hear the the ambulance siren behind you, you know, five
Speaker 2: hundred yards or a quarter of a mile or less
Speaker 2: than a quarter of a mile, or a fire truck
Speaker 2: or a police car, and you're in a red light
Speaker 2: and you're maybe the third car on the left hand side.
Speaker 2: You have nowhere to go. You've got two cars in
Speaker 2: front of you, you got a person to your right, and
Speaker 2: you got you can you can't go anywhere, and nobody moves.
Speaker 2: Nobody moves even though there's an ambulance coming, and their
Speaker 2: mother could be in the back of that ambulance, or
Speaker 2: their sister, or their brother or their father, but they
Speaker 2: don't move. They freeze. And it's like maybe they don't
Speaker 2: hear the siren. Maybe I guess, maybe they have the
Speaker 2: radio on too loud. But the simple thing to do
Speaker 2: is to safely get through the red light and pull
Speaker 2: over or take a right at the red light wherever
Speaker 2: you are, just drive down the road and get out
Speaker 2: of the way. We don't I've sat there so many
Speaker 2: times where you're blasting somebody on a horn. So my
Speaker 2: question is, here's the question. Do people not think? Do
Speaker 2: they freeze in terror because they don't know what to do?
Speaker 2: Or have they never even thought about this? Well, what
Speaker 2: would I do if I was that first car and
Speaker 2: the right side? What would I do? Would I sit
Speaker 2: there and make it difficult for the ambulance driver or
Speaker 2: the fire truck or the police car to get through?
Speaker 2: What I just freeze? So I want to know from you,
Speaker 2: do you think people don't think, or do you think
Speaker 2: people freeze in terror? Or do you think they've never
Speaker 2: thought in advance. Well, if I'm driving sometime, what am
Speaker 2: I gonna do if there's an ambulance coming up behind me?
Speaker 2: Am I gonna race as fast as I can beat
Speaker 2: the ambulance. I don't think you should do that, Okay,
Speaker 2: am I gonna pull over and get out of the
Speaker 2: ambulance's way as safely as I can. I think that's
Speaker 2: a good idea. So I'm coming back now to the
Speaker 2: train accident of yesterday. Let's assume you were stuck between
Speaker 2: these two gates. You're on the train track, you see
Speaker 2: the train coming. I'm blowing through that train. I'm blowing
Speaker 2: through that system. Okay, I'm taking that gate with me,
Speaker 2: all right, I am getting the hell out of the way.
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing the same thing. I want to
Speaker 2: hear from you. Have you ever been in that situation?
Speaker 2: And what did you do? Have you ever been in
Speaker 2: a situation where you're sitting there and you've got an
Speaker 2: ambulance twenty cars behind you, and you you don't want
Speaker 2: to move because the lights were in I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: wait here till the light turns them. When the light
Speaker 2: turns green, I'll be able to go ahead. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. Someone's in that ambulance dying and you
Speaker 2: are preventing them from getting to a hospital. Use your head.
Speaker 2: Six one seven two five four ten thirty. That's the
Speaker 2: only lines that is available right now. The other one
Speaker 2: is all full. So six one seven two five four
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I'm not blaming the truck driver. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what is sort of a situation he or
Speaker 2: she found themselves in. But if that truck could have moved,
Speaker 2: why not just blow through the gate. Okay, you're going
Speaker 2: to owe the town a couple thousand dollars to fix
Speaker 2: the gate. That's no big deal. I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: kind of a part of doing business here as far
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. If you don't get out of the truck,
Speaker 2: you'll be killed. If you get out of the truck
Speaker 2: and the and the train is pushing the truck down,
Speaker 2: you might be killed. Come on, people, wake up. No
Speaker 2: criticism of the truck driving. Don't know the circumstances. But
Speaker 2: I just thought to myself, if I'm in a situation
Speaker 2: like that and there's a gate, there's a gate that
Speaker 2: is blocking me from going forward, and there's a train
Speaker 2: that's bearing down on me. I'm taking the gate out
Speaker 2: and guess what if they want to charge me, fine,
Speaker 2: I'll take the fine and I'll go in front of
Speaker 2: any judge where they have me up for destroying property
Speaker 2: of town property. We'll take a quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 2: If you think I'm crazy, tell me I'm crazy. If
Speaker 2: you agree with me, let's wake people up back on
Speaker 2: Nightside after.
Speaker 1: This Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone. It's gonna start off with
Speaker 2: Maureen and Winchester. Maureen, do you think I'm crazy on this?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 4: No, you're the voice of reason. You're never crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh I wish youd Rob we should make that into
Speaker 2: a promo piece. I don't think we do promo pieces anymore,
Speaker 2: but thank you very much. Worried.
Speaker 4: I think the problem is on the m bt A
Speaker 4: really I do, and I think they have a problem
Speaker 4: with the timing of the trains and the gates. Okay,
Speaker 4: when I've been hearing about this accident and other ones,
Speaker 4: I was almost missed meet this past h fall. Bye yep.
Speaker 4: By the uh my my heart is actually palpitating right now.
Speaker 2: And when I relax, don't have a heart attack.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what happened to me is I was driving
Speaker 4: on a street and the gates went down, A train
Speaker 4: went through the gates, then go up and the traffic
Speaker 4: is supposed to proceed right. I was proceeding, and my mother,
Speaker 4: who was raised on a farm in Iowa, said, always
Speaker 4: look to your left, to your right and your left,
Speaker 4: and don't gun it, and don't gun it over road,
Speaker 4: ruin the undercarriage. But also you never know somebody's hot
Speaker 4: dogging through a red light.
Speaker 5: Right, So I did.
Speaker 4: That, and I'm in the jeep starting in the gates.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, ding ding ding ding. The gates
Speaker 4: are coming down, and I thought they were going to
Speaker 4: go right through my windshield wiper. I could not. I
Speaker 4: thought my heart was going to break open the shock
Speaker 4: of that. And I hit the brakes because I like,
Speaker 4: something's not right. If I had gunned it, I would
Speaker 4: have been are driven normally, I would have been dead.
Speaker 4: I quickly hit the brakes. I thought, oh, good god,
Speaker 4: the gate's going to come through the windshield, shatter that.
Speaker 4: And I looked in behind me and there was a
Speaker 4: big school bus and they were driving very slowly, and
Speaker 4: I put it quickly in reverse. The gate went down
Speaker 4: and I was very shaken. Uh so I'll need several
Speaker 4: calls to the MBTA, to Keiolas and the response I
Speaker 4: got was that that is a timing if the gates,
Speaker 4: nobody tells you. I had a call probably six times
Speaker 4: to get different department. I requested to talk to the
Speaker 4: head of Keolis who was at South Station. I eventually
Speaker 4: kicked us up to the Governor's office and they put
Speaker 4: me in touch with Emma, who's there handles these consumer issues.
Speaker 4: And I did ask her for a call back, and
Speaker 4: that was in December. The last time I heard I
Speaker 4: got to run around from Keolas. What they here's basically
Speaker 4: what they say is once the gates go up, you
Speaker 4: floor it over the tracks. And I said, uh, that
Speaker 4: can ruin the undercarriage of the car. And he goes, well,
Speaker 4: we advise people to drive cautiously and drive fast when
Speaker 4: the gates go up. I said, well, I've had driven
Speaker 4: fast or normal, I would have been miss me. And
Speaker 4: that's why why do you think these turn these people
Speaker 4: are getting stuck on tracks. So what I got from
Speaker 4: another person when I called back at different levels, right,
Speaker 4: you get the operator, he gets the customer. Service and
Speaker 4: different departments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and plenty and they got plenty of people there,
Speaker 2: all of whom eventually just pass you from one to
Speaker 2: the other and they're all getting paid. I'm with you
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the gate is supposed to go go down, and
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be down for thirty seconds before a
Speaker 4: train comes through.
Speaker 2: Sure, then it's.
Speaker 4: Supposed to go up. I said that gate went down.
Speaker 4: The outgoing train from Cambridge out went out, the gates
Speaker 4: went up. I was a patient driver. I'm going across
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden the gates almost trap me
Speaker 4: on the tracks, and so I was able to break
Speaker 4: it up and go back, and then the train went through.
Speaker 4: The gates for not are supposed to be down thirty
Speaker 4: seconds before the train then coming from the Burbs going
Speaker 4: into Cambridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what they shouldn't do is they shouldn't have
Speaker 2: the trains that close together. So in other words, you know,
Speaker 2: if the train that's right, Yeah, if the train has
Speaker 2: to slow down, and it's like it's like a regular
Speaker 2: stop sign. You know, if you come to a four
Speaker 2: full way stop and you have a green light or
Speaker 2: it turns yellow, you stop and you sit there for
Speaker 2: thirty seconds or a minute or whatever it is. And
Speaker 2: then when it turns green, you should have you know,
Speaker 2: an equivalent amount of time to proceed through the intersection
Speaker 2: with in a car. You shouldn't like turn green and
Speaker 2: then go yellow right away and be red in two seconds.
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like the as you said, the gate
Speaker 2: came down, you stopped, the train went through, the gate
Speaker 2: went up, You start to go across, and the gate's
Speaker 2: coming back down in a matter of a few seconds.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: And they told me that, Well, what somebody told me
Speaker 4: is that is probably timing. If we have a train
Speaker 4: that's earlier or later, that throws everything off. I said, well,
Speaker 4: then that's what people are getting killed on your tracks
Speaker 4: and injured. And I said that needs to be investigated.
Speaker 4: And you know, they say, how could an old couple
Speaker 4: get stuck on a track? Do they have to mention no.
Speaker 2: Well the other one. Well the other thing too. That's
Speaker 2: like saying to air traffic control is well, we had
Speaker 2: a plane crash because the two planes collided, one ran
Speaker 2: into the other. Wait a second, you tell one of
Speaker 2: the planes go around and yeah, like, oh this is crazy.
Speaker 2: What have you ever been in traffic when there's an
Speaker 2: ambulance coming and nobody behind them knows what no one,
Speaker 2: no one knows what to do.
Speaker 4: Yes, I I actually that happened to me just the
Speaker 4: other day, and and you know, you know what I
Speaker 4: was actually in. I had to go to Boston today
Speaker 4: and the other day. You know, it's like heart palpitations.
Speaker 6: But uh well I get.
Speaker 2: Heart palpitations going into Boston just from going to Boston.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. That's very normal, all right. I
Speaker 2: hate Marien, I love you called, but I got to
Speaker 2: run because I met my news breaking.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's really aggravating some people. Actually, I
Speaker 4: saw a cargo right in front of an ambulance. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what a ding What a ding bat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 2: dingbats out there. They all weren't married to Archie Bunker. Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks Marie. Let you run.
Speaker 4: He needs to take responsibility for this. They need a
Speaker 4: step up. And I'm going to call the Governor's office
Speaker 4: again tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Good luck with that. Thanks, Thanks Mariy, love your call.
Speaker 2: Call again. Thanks you're a Greg Baller. Thanks talk to
Speaker 2: you later. Only line six. Here comes the news at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. Let's get this going, and
Speaker 2: let's make people think that's what we're trying to do
Speaker 2: here Tonight at Nightside, it's night.
Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: I to go to Bernie in New Hampshire. Bernie your
Speaker 2: next on Nightside, Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 7: Dan.
Speaker 6: How are you doing tonight, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Bernie. I guess you can relate to
Speaker 2: what we're talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am in my job capacity.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of different tasks.
Speaker 6: What I do.
Speaker 5: I have a CDL and I at times drive a
Speaker 5: hazmat vehicle. And I would never pretend to try to
Speaker 5: imagine what happened to this driver today because I wouldn't
Speaker 5: want people second guests to me.
Speaker 2: And by the way, let me make it clear, I'm
Speaker 2: not second guessing this guy. I'm just talking about if
Speaker 2: you found yourself between a couple of gates, and probably
Speaker 2: it's not your fault, what the hell are you do?
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing with a CDO vehicle. You can't
Speaker 6: shift going across train tracks. So you run for a dime,
Speaker 6: you run for a dollar, you hit the train tracks,
Speaker 6: you keep going there. You can't ship.
Speaker 5: That's against the lock. So how did he come to
Speaker 5: a stop on the train tracks.
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying to Bernie, Bernie, my question is this.
Speaker 2: Let's assume he starts across the train tracks and the
Speaker 2: gate comes down and he stops, and you know, it
Speaker 2: could be that the gate malfunction and twenty seconds later
Speaker 2: the go gate goes back up, No harm, no foul.
Speaker 2: But if the gate comes down and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he hears that there's a train a quarter of
Speaker 2: a mile away, he done it.
Speaker 6: To the gate, right, Well, yeah, if he's going through it,
Speaker 6: If he's going across the train tracks and the gates
Speaker 6: come down and he goes through that gate and knocks
Speaker 6: it down, he did what he was supposed to do.
Speaker 6: You're not supposed to ship on a train track. You know,
Speaker 6: it's supposed to come to a stop.
Speaker 5: So he can I mean, at the end of the
Speaker 5: day he tells his this back to Hey, I was
Speaker 5: going across the tracks. You know legally, I cannot shift.
Speaker 5: I cannot stop. I went through the gate.
Speaker 2: What's the word you use? Wait, you said I cannot
Speaker 2: I cannot legally did you say shift like down shift?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't shift, but you know you can't shift
Speaker 6: crossing frame tracks with a CD.
Speaker 2: Correct. Right, But but Bernie, I'm not a CDO guy,
Speaker 2: so I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: You're really saying you can't stop. You got to keep going.
Speaker 2: Correct in layman's language, you're saying you can't shift means
Speaker 2: you can't you know, shift down and stop, slow down.
Speaker 2: You got to keep going. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 6: You gotta keep going. Yeah, yeah, And he's well with
Speaker 6: his rights. And then your cause damage that you know,
Speaker 6: that's between theolis and the.
Speaker 5: And the company.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, All right, Well that explains that one.
Speaker 6: But one other things.
Speaker 5: And I was coming through Weymouth Landing today and a
Speaker 5: pickup and I see an ambulance coming up behind me,
Speaker 5: and people in the waymouth limb and land and seem
Speaker 5: to be shot on common sense or are common curtsy.
Speaker 5: And I see an ambulance, So I pull out two lanes.
Speaker 5: I pulled it up right, and there's someone an escalade
Speaker 5: behind me, pulls around me, keeps throwing and everyone out
Speaker 5: behind me pulled over to and he just started the
Speaker 5: right lane and kept going, and the ambulance got in
Speaker 5: the west lane and kept going.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, yeah, I mean Uh, you've been in situations
Speaker 2: where nobody moves and it's so frustrating you. You know,
Speaker 2: you hear the siren. I'm blasting my horn and people
Speaker 2: just they freeze, they panic.
Speaker 5: They don't know what happened to me yesterday on eighteen
Speaker 5: by the south Shore Hospital when I put them into
Speaker 5: the level lane, the left hand lane, which was the
Speaker 5: oncoming traffic lane, to let the ambulance get through. I
Speaker 5: don't maybe the wrong decision, but the everyone's got through.
Speaker 2: You gotta do what you got to do under those circumstances, says.
Speaker 2: It could be it could be your your child, it
Speaker 2: could be your family member, it could be a neighbor,
Speaker 2: whoever it is. It doesn't matter whether you know the
Speaker 2: person or not. That ambulance is trying to get someone
Speaker 2: to a hospital for medical attention, and that that has
Speaker 2: to be the priority. Bernie, thank you much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Call. Thank you Tobe.
Speaker 2: He thanks much. Six one seven, got two lines at
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Dave and wear them wear him.
Speaker 6: Hey Dave, how are you good evening? Dan?
Speaker 2: How are you doing great?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: What do you think about this dilemma that I have
Speaker 2: presented to you and the rest of my audience tonight.
Speaker 6: Well, common sense, you know, that's what we got to
Speaker 6: have it. Come on, I mean you're going to that's
Speaker 6: only a wood barrier that comes down in front of you,
Speaker 6: you know, that's what I look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care if it's a wood barrier. I
Speaker 2: don't care if it's metal or steel. I'm going through.
Speaker 7: It looks wouldn't to me.
Speaker 6: And if you have pretty lights sometimes on it. But
Speaker 6: believe me, there's a train coming. If you're not crashing
Speaker 6: through it, you ain't even know. I ain't driving with you,
Speaker 6: don't We'll have that straight all of my life if
Speaker 6: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: So, how do you think that? So? So, Dave, how
Speaker 2: do you think that happened yesterday? I mean, I can
Speaker 2: see that the truck driver is on the tracks and
Speaker 2: both of the gates come down. But you hear the
Speaker 2: train whistle or you know you're on a train track.
Speaker 2: You look, you must see something get off?
Speaker 6: You know anything about that driver himself?
Speaker 2: No? No, And I don't want it in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form, calling to question his judgment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, but we're all, well, this is it. You
Speaker 6: heard what I said, and that's me, you know, come on.
Speaker 2: What about what about the Yeah, what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: people freeze. I'm not saying the guy froze or anything.
Speaker 2: Who knows what happened. I wasn't there, But I have
Speaker 2: been in situations where you're on you know, a two
Speaker 2: lane road like a Route nine or I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know the VFW Parkway one of those roads where
Speaker 2: where it's heavily trafficked, and you hear an ambulance in
Speaker 2: behind you, you know, two hundred yards and you look
Speaker 2: at all the cars. Nobody moves. Somebody sitting at a
Speaker 2: red light, It's like they cantle through a red light.
Speaker 2: What are they think they're going to do? Get written
Speaker 2: up by a cop? Pull over, get out of the way,
Speaker 2: let the ambulance through.
Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you the truth, Dan, I goes.
Speaker 6: I drive a lot, you know, living and whatnot.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Run into that six to eight times a year. That's
Speaker 6: how many times I run under that. And what do
Speaker 6: you think I do.
Speaker 3: Through the light?
Speaker 6: I see, of course, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 6: then I and I look him back, give me to
Speaker 6: see what's going on, and then I'm gone. I'm going
Speaker 6: through it.
Speaker 9: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, you want to, you want to make sure
Speaker 2: that you're not going to t bone somebody going through
Speaker 2: the light. But if if the traffic is if the
Speaker 2: traffic's too heavy, the traffic's too heavy, and and you're
Speaker 2: in a light, hook a right, you know, get get
Speaker 2: out of the way. If you've got to go up
Speaker 2: and turn around. You know, we all have GPS. Now
Speaker 2: you get back on the main road, it won't be
Speaker 2: that difficult. But I just see people freeze. I think
Speaker 2: some people got a headset on. They're listening to music
Speaker 2: and they're rocking out and they don't know what's going on.
Speaker 6: You know, you got Dave's permission. Away here, go through
Speaker 6: the damn light. Get the hell out of the way,
Speaker 6: no matter what the cost.
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more, Dave, You're you're my sort
Speaker 2: of guy. You're my sort of guy. Hey, thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us, keep it keep it going here, you
Speaker 2: call it again? Okay. I really enjoyed the call. I
Speaker 2: love your sense of humor. Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 6: Wait, yeah, yeah, good night.
Speaker 2: Six one seven two one six one seven two five
Speaker 2: four ten thirty or six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Look, all of us have seen it. I'd
Speaker 2: like to hear from you. Tell me what you would do.
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's anyone out there who's going to
Speaker 2: say to me, well, there's a red light, I'm going
Speaker 2: to stop and wait till the red light turns. You're in.
Speaker 2: You're a jerk, okay, so call him, call me up
Speaker 2: and I'll call you a jerk to your face. Get
Speaker 2: out of the way. If it's an ambulance, it's a
Speaker 2: fire truck, it could be your house on fire, simple
Speaker 2: as that. And I want to come back to the
Speaker 2: to the to the crash. First of all, I think
Speaker 2: that the trains. There better be a better system out
Speaker 2: there for the trains. It's as simple as that. Let
Speaker 2: me get one more in here before the break. Going
Speaker 2: to go to John in Middleborough. Hey John, you're next
Speaker 2: one nightside. Welcome night Dan. Thanks, let me be here absolutely,
Speaker 2: So what's your thought on both of these dilemmas that
Speaker 2: I have that I've talked about? One the vehicle on
Speaker 2: the track, do you do you smash through the gate?
Speaker 2: I smashed through the gate.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, drive through them. In many cases they're made to break.
Speaker 6: I got it. I work for am tracked about fifteen
Speaker 6: and a half years now. Okay, and information on the
Speaker 6: crossing gate. Yes, the mechanism that control does not pull
Speaker 6: them down.
Speaker 9: It allows them.
Speaker 6: To fall by grabbing. When they're down, they can easily
Speaker 6: be lifted by hand and traffic control through or escape train.
Speaker 2: Sure, but if you don't have time, I mean, if
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you see a train a couple
Speaker 2: hundred yards away, don't try to get out of the
Speaker 2: car and quietly walk over, you know, get through the
Speaker 2: get off the track.
Speaker 6: Through the gate if you can, assuming that's not traffic
Speaker 6: right on the other side of the gate.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 6: But although if you get the spctor on a cropping,
Speaker 6: well whatever. We virtually every great crossing in the United
Speaker 6: States has at least one blue signs with white letter
Speaker 6: has a poultry numbers called it dispector or trains on
Speaker 6: that line.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, the name of.
Speaker 6: The crossing and the number of the crossing. So they
Speaker 6: called the fact there's a problem stop any approaching credits.
Speaker 2: That's great information. I did not know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, take a look next time we go over acrossing.
Speaker 2: I will, I will, you know, I'll bettion. There'd be
Speaker 2: some some people who'll be going over crossing tomorrow thinking
Speaker 2: about John from Middleborough. Great advice, John. That's what I
Speaker 2: love about my audience. There's always smarter people in my
Speaker 2: audience than me, who knows more about a specific subject.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. That's very helpful,
Speaker 2: very helpful.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Mek you soon, Thanks John, Thank you much.
Speaker 2: Got to take a break. One line at six one
Speaker 2: seven two four ten thirty. Got one line at six
Speaker 2: one seven ninety. We're coming right back if you want
Speaker 2: to get in dial now because we have a guest
Speaker 2: coming up at ten. I'm not carrying this over. This
Speaker 2: has been a great topic. Let's keep it rolling. Coming
Speaker 2: right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Nights Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Back. We got great calls, Let's keep rolling. Going to
Speaker 2: try to get them all in Ron and Stoat and
Speaker 2: run next on nights.
Speaker 3: How How are you Dan? Longtime, no talk to uh.
Speaker 3: I just want to say this about that accident yesterday.
Speaker 3: First of all, I did a lot of train safety
Speaker 3: programs at toy train shows. I'm a big train fanatic,
Speaker 3: and there's the one thing I've always said to people,
Speaker 3: especially kids, stop, look and listen I drive a truck,
Speaker 3: and I know when you stop. I saw the films
Speaker 3: on this. This guy went around the gates and he
Speaker 3: was cited for doing. If you watch the films, he
Speaker 3: deserves to be cited. He could have caused more than
Speaker 3: a major accident. You don't forget it takes a long
Speaker 3: time to stop a train, whether it's going thirty miles
Speaker 3: an hour or fifty miles an hour, whether it's passenger
Speaker 3: or a freight. He was wrong, and but we do
Speaker 3: need to have four way gates at all crossings. You know,
Speaker 3: he made a stupid decision. And like you said earlier,
Speaker 3: it's the same type of people that won't pull over
Speaker 3: for an ambulance or a fire engine or a police car.
Speaker 3: And people have to be more aware of what they're
Speaker 3: doing when they're driving.
Speaker 2: You bet you, you bet you. Safety for safety for
Speaker 2: yourself and safety for everyone else, and safety right person
Speaker 2: in the back of that ambulance because their life is
Speaker 2: in jeopardy.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's right, and also safety for the engineer of
Speaker 3: that train.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely absolutely, you know, run great points, great points.
Speaker 2: I got back lines trying to get right.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get my two cents for it then
Speaker 3: and it was.
Speaker 2: Something like you got more than two cents in call anytime. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Ron, thank you for talk again. Thanks much. Good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Paul and Weymouth. Paul you next
Speaker 2: one nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 9: Hey Dan, big fan, how are hey? Listen? That guy
Speaker 9: who that guy who called from Weymouth. He says, you
Speaker 9: can't shift on the track. Well, first of all, all
Speaker 9: the trucks are automatic now, so there's there's no shifting.
Speaker 9: I've been driving CDL forty five years and I've been
Speaker 9: driving automatic for three years and I still reach for
Speaker 9: the clutch.
Speaker 2: Old habits die hard. So what would have you done
Speaker 2: if you were that on that track?
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I saw it, I saw the video. I'd go through it,
Speaker 9: but I don't know. If it's I don't know, if
Speaker 9: I don't know, if he's stalled or what happened, I
Speaker 9: don't know. But as far as shifting, look, they said
Speaker 9: all the trucks are automatic, so there's only whatever. But
Speaker 9: to get to your point about people not stopped and
Speaker 9: the ambulances.
Speaker 6: You know that rule for.
Speaker 9: Slow down or pull over for a stalled vehicle on
Speaker 9: the highway, Yes, sure. So I'm in my eighteen wheeler.
Speaker 9: I pull over to the center lane to go buy
Speaker 9: an accident or break down or whatever it may be.
Speaker 9: And I go to pull I go to pull back
Speaker 9: into the right lane, and there's somebody passing me. It
Speaker 9: happened long. They just don't I don't know what they're thinking,
Speaker 9: you know, So.
Speaker 2: They're thinking this smarter than you are. And one thing
Speaker 2: I found out about long haul truck drivers is they
Speaker 2: know what they're doing. Okay, so give them plenty of room.
Speaker 9: Well that's that's all I want to tell you. Was
Speaker 9: like I go to pull over. When I go to
Speaker 9: pull back, somebody's passing me on the right. It's like,
Speaker 9: you got it, you got it.
Speaker 2: Everybody's looking at that little itch. Hey, Paul is always
Speaker 2: thanks so much for the call. Appreciated. We'll talk again.
Speaker 9: Okay, Thanks Jim, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Be safe. Steve is in Rockland. Steve, you're next night's
Speaker 2: IM gonna get you and at least a couple more
Speaker 2: in Go ahead, Steve d Yes, sir, Dan, can you
Speaker 2: hear me here? You perfectly go right ahead?
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 10: I just want to let you know here in Brockton.
Speaker 10: I don't know who designed it, who's responsible, but we
Speaker 10: have the train come to Brockton and we always have
Speaker 10: the the the the the English.
Speaker 9: The gate.
Speaker 10: We don't have any. All we have is bridges and tunnels.
Speaker 10: There are no gates in Brockton.
Speaker 2: You want to be safe, come on, good idea.
Speaker 10: Okay, I think they got to go around and everywhere
Speaker 10: there's a gate, they should put a bridge or a tunnel.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's gonna take a lot of work, but
Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea. It's certainly a lot
Speaker 2: safer if that's not bad idea. Do you pull over
Speaker 2: when an ambulance is coming up behind you're a fire
Speaker 2: truck or a police officer?
Speaker 10: I hope we haven't referred to as the intersection from
Speaker 10: hell right here and brogh when you give it from
Speaker 10: when you first get off. Yeah, just just just just yesterday,
Speaker 10: I heard the siren and there's thousands of cars. You
Speaker 10: cannot tell where it's coming from. This it's not you
Speaker 10: can't really blame the person in front of me, but
Speaker 10: I heard them and I know where they usually come
Speaker 10: down Pleasant Street.
Speaker 5: White pulled up to the right and.
Speaker 6: Nobody else did.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 10: So it has to do with your your ability, I
Speaker 10: think to perceive where the siren noise is actually coming from.
Speaker 10: I got your directional hearing.
Speaker 2: But still your instinct is to find a way to
Speaker 2: get out of it. You got to pull into a
Speaker 2: gas station, pull into a gas stage, if you got
Speaker 2: to pull into a parking lot, clear the road, let
Speaker 2: the let the emergency vehicle through.
Speaker 6: That should be the rule, idea.
Speaker 2: That's right. I got two more of you to thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Sandra in Carver. Sandra, I got
Speaker 2: one you and one more. Go ahead, Sandra, Okay.
Speaker 8: Real quick. I just want to say when I was
Speaker 8: a kid, they used manned men at the crosswalk. Every
Speaker 8: crossing there was a guy. Today it's all computerized and
Speaker 8: they're always sailing now. I was coming down Route fifty
Speaker 8: eight to go to Rochester one night to dog training.
Speaker 8: I usually look both ways. I don't know if I
Speaker 8: did that night, but when I went to cross there
Speaker 8: was no lights, no gate went down, total malfunction. I
Speaker 8: look and there was a train, so I just kept
Speaker 8: I just kept on moving, and when I got to
Speaker 8: a phone, I called it in. They said, oh, Yeah,
Speaker 8: we knew we have a problem there. Well, why wasn't
Speaker 8: there a cruiser or somebody there? Yeah, to control the situation?
Speaker 2: How much? How close was it that the train missed you? Obviously?
Speaker 3: How well?
Speaker 8: It was was night and all I could see was
Speaker 8: the great, big, huge light.
Speaker 7: You know. But I'm quit you had a.
Speaker 2: Guardian angel on your shoulder that night.
Speaker 8: Sandra, Right, Well, I think I do all the time anyway.
Speaker 8: And also just to say this, I worked as a
Speaker 8: nurse at night and for a while, for a three
Speaker 8: year period, I also did the ambulance for the town. Yes,
Speaker 8: I was an empty so I had some of that experience.
Speaker 8: But most times people do pull over for you. But
Speaker 8: I think lately, through whatever reason, everybody's getting cocky. They
Speaker 8: don't pull.
Speaker 3: Over like they use it.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people got the music on
Speaker 2: the radio or the ear or the earphones on. They
Speaker 2: don't hear it, or they're not paying attention, or they're
Speaker 2: just dumb. They're absolutely dumb. I can use a stronger word,
Speaker 2: but I'll just say dumb. And they think that that
Speaker 2: for them to get to wherever they're going is the
Speaker 2: most important thing in the world. Although somebody may be
Speaker 2: dying an ambulance ten cars behind them, simple as that.
Speaker 8: Right, well, but anyway that.
Speaker 2: Could be too absolutely, thanks Andrew, talk to you soon.
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you, bye.
Speaker 2: Well, I won more before ten. It's Robert and Wellesley. Robert,
Speaker 2: you're gonna wrap us up. I got about a minute,
Speaker 2: go ahead, Robert.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, stop, look lessen. A lot of people at
Speaker 7: the railroad crossing, A lot of people aren't aware of
Speaker 7: that role. Also as you as you know, also emergency
Speaker 7: lights on passenger cars tend to be underused. So to
Speaker 7: prevent being rear ended, if you stop, look and listen
Speaker 7: by the railroad track, I suggest putting on the emergency lights.
Speaker 10: Then.
Speaker 7: Also, if there's an emergency vehicle such as an ambulance approaching,
Speaker 7: you don't know where they're coming from. I also we
Speaker 7: suggest using emergency lights again, making people around you aware
Speaker 7: that you're aware of the siren approaching, and you're making
Speaker 7: to right.
Speaker 2: All great points. Robert. I used to tell my kids
Speaker 2: when they went back to school, we do we take
Speaker 2: a little walk a couple of days before going back
Speaker 2: to school when they were in elementary school and things
Speaker 2: like that, and I would say, look, listen and learn.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of the same thing you're saying in
Speaker 2: terms of driving.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Hey, Robert, thank you as always, I enjoy your calls.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, we'll talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: Thank you, good night, good night.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're done for this hour. That was a great hour.
Speaker 2: I want to thank everyone, Maureen, Brunie, Dave, John, Ron, Paul, Steve,
Speaker 2: Sandra and Robert. Great calls and thank you very much
Speaker 2: for agreeing with me, and hopefully some of you have
Speaker 2: heard what we said. Tonight when we come back, we're
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