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<v Speaker 1>She is the chief kitten herder of the Colorado Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Bretta Horne, welcome back to the show, having me Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Okay, so since last week spoke Bretta, so much

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<v Speaker 1>has happened now. I talked about the fact that a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago Saturday, I'm minding my own beeswax, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going through my day, and all of a sudden, my

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<v Speaker 1>phone starts lighting up with text messages from people saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I just came from the State Assembly.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what happened. I think we opted out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure. I have no idea. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you to tell my listeners what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in that meeting, and then we'll get to the Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of State's office in just a second. So what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in that meeting?

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<v Speaker 2>Britta?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had a meeting and it was the five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and you know, three people. It's the State Central Committee,

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<v Speaker 4>which is from the sixty four counties, three people from

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<v Speaker 4>each one on the chair of the vice the secretary,

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<v Speaker 4>and then bonus members based on whether or not the

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<v Speaker 4>population of that of that county. So it's five hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>a handful of people, and we all got together to

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<v Speaker 4>go over just really the opt out vote, whether we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to vote on or not. We had a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of items laid over because they were table from the

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<v Speaker 4>meeting before, and it just like we went in there

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<v Speaker 4>with the understanding that we have to have this vote

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<v Speaker 4>per law, and we had had it between it was

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<v Speaker 4>August fifteenth and October first, So we picked the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seventh in so September and we decided, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to have this vote, and by law you need

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<v Speaker 4>to have seventy five percent to want to do it

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<v Speaker 4>of that body to opt out of the primary, and

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<v Speaker 4>opting out means that there would be no paper ballots

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<v Speaker 4>to anybody, and that just these five hundred people and

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<v Speaker 4>then PCPs precinct chair people, that's a whole other rabbit

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<v Speaker 4>trail would go to have assemblies or conventions next spring

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<v Speaker 4>and only vote for one person for each seat within

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<v Speaker 4>that district, that community, that county, that and then and

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<v Speaker 4>then we'd have to have a big one for the

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<v Speaker 4>whole the state seats, no petitioning on, no paper blots

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<v Speaker 4>going to any of the nine hundred thousand plus Republicans,

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously the independence in Colorado, nothing going.

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<v Speaker 3>Over to.

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<v Speaker 4>Military overseas, nothing, It would just be decided by that

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<v Speaker 4>small percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me just I'm gonna I want to drive

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<v Speaker 1>this point home because there is a big, old, fat

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<v Speaker 1>misconception that if the Republican Party opted out of the primary,

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<v Speaker 1>the open primary, that they would somehow be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hold another primary and let all of the nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand plus Republicans that are registered here vote on our candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>And I keep telling people to your point what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, all this would do if we opt out

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<v Speaker 1>of the primaries, it would put the power of choosing

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<v Speaker 1>the general election candidates in the hands of a very

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<v Speaker 1>small group of people. So would essentially disenfranchise about nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five thousand Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>It would take away our ability to.

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<v Speaker 1>Choose our candidate, and in doing so, it's very reminiscent

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<v Speaker 1>of the way Kamala Harris became the candidate for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party because I said, I said the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we still don't know who decided that. At

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<v Speaker 1>least we'd know the people that were choosing our candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I'll let you continue. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate that point. We would not have a primary. We

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<v Speaker 1>would have a small group of party insiders who work

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<v Speaker 1>very hard for the party. I don't want to in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form, you know, denigrate the work.

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<v Speaker 2>That they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to concede my primary vote to

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred people in change or six hundred, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>number is. So go ahead and tell me what happened next.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had we had to go.

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<v Speaker 4>We had it as our first item, after all the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the minutes, We kept the rules of the

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<v Speaker 4>last time, you know, we do all the things, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was next, and then there was just that's when

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<v Speaker 4>it started that they wanted to have these things that

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<v Speaker 4>we were laying over first and not this vote and

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<v Speaker 4>put that second.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to go through all those pieces and.

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<v Speaker 4>It just was It was very rowdy, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>very loud, and people were acting as they would and

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<v Speaker 4>so it just took a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot of confusion, a lot of chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>It was clumsy.

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<v Speaker 4>We got through it to the point where we had

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<v Speaker 4>to leave the building because we only had it for

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<v Speaker 4>X number of hours and our security of the Captain

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<v Speaker 4>of the police force it like it's time to go.

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<v Speaker 4>So we never had the vote. So unbeknownst to what

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<v Speaker 4>people are trying to say and trying to trick everybody

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<v Speaker 4>and with their with their wordsmithing, it didn't happen. We

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have the vote. We had to vote over another

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<v Speaker 4>item that was laid over from the Assembly a year

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<v Speaker 4>and a half ago down Plublo, and they were trying

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<v Speaker 4>to change the minutia of that, trying to change that

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<v Speaker 4>into from a controversy and I know we're going down

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<v Speaker 4>the rabbit trail a controversy into a resolution and try

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<v Speaker 4>to get that to be the vote, and it can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have the vote there and seventy five percent,

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<v Speaker 4>So let's say vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk about what happened that year ago in Pueblo,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a vote opped out of the primary.

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<v Speaker 1>But the language, the statutory language in the Colorado bill

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<v Speaker 1>about open primaries says, do you have to have seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the state Central Committee? Right, not seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the people who are present. Seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the state Central Committee have to vote to

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<v Speaker 1>op out of the primary. Did that happen in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that wasn't and that was a state Assembly, not

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<v Speaker 4>the State Central Committee.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was thousands of people. I don't remember, three.

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<v Speaker 4>And a half, maybe four thousands, And it was a

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<v Speaker 4>controversy trying to turn into a resolution and having people

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<v Speaker 4>stand up and.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't even the people that should be voting.

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<v Speaker 4>And to turn that around into something else, and it

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<v Speaker 4>just was because it was an even year.

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<v Speaker 3>We can only do these.

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<v Speaker 4>Odd years during certain days. So we had to straight

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<v Speaker 4>up have that vote. That vote didn't happen, that other

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<v Speaker 4>one voted, you know, we voted on whether that was

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<v Speaker 4>true or not or we're going to apply for it.

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<v Speaker 4>And we did a role called vote and only forty

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<v Speaker 4>four percent of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Five hundred people total.

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<v Speaker 4>Pass what wanted it, So it didn't pass because you

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<v Speaker 4>need seventy five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So it again it was never there. There's no there there.

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<v Speaker 2>So they didn't follow this statue yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Rule of law, follow the rules, and they did the

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<v Speaker 4>seventy five percent of the those present and in proxy

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<v Speaker 4>that's how we got that five hundred number.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not vote at seventy five percent level.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what was given to the Secretary of State's

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<v Speaker 1>office after the meeting, because this is where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>really ridiculous and interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So there was one of those other pieces laid over

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<v Speaker 4>was that a person and myself, you know, does this

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<v Speaker 4>body want us to jointly go together and turn in

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<v Speaker 4>the results. Somebody went ahead and did that on their own.

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<v Speaker 3>C seed me.

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<v Speaker 4>Was not joint as I read it, read it or

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<v Speaker 4>my are you know the party read it? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the GOP State Central Committee, the whole group together of us,

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<v Speaker 4>the executive board, did not even executive just the electeds.

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<v Speaker 4>They swore that that that what happened and that nothing

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<v Speaker 4>could be further from the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had to they said that we affirmed they

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<v Speaker 1>opt out and this Britta, why this is also frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>And then you basically the same information. Look, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>opt out on anything to the secretary. And you're just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to hear from Jennick Grisweld's office now about what.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, we heard from him last week. Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we heard from him last week. The office. So the

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<v Speaker 3>chief of staffputy chief of staff.

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<v Speaker 4>And their legal counsel, senior league counsel. We managed to

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<v Speaker 4>get a phone call with them of the staff and

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<v Speaker 4>they said thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You very much for following rule of law. We agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's been put to bed. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that this, well, I mean in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been put to bed, but obviously that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>mind of some members of the Republican Party, which brings

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<v Speaker 1>me to my second point that I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about really quickly on the blog. Today, I have some

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting polling from.

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<v Speaker 2>From Forbes and Forbes. The headline on Forbes dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com is, well, maybe if I can get to the headline,

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<v Speaker 1>new polls show Bluesteak Colorado is in play for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that and I thought to myself, but are

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans going to be able to capitalize on it?

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<v Speaker 2>So, Britta, I am not fond it.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, when you go look at

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<v Speaker 1>my cartoon that I made for today that I put

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<v Speaker 1>on my social media to promote the blog, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>proud of it. And the likeness of you is just

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<v Speaker 1>a rough likeness. I didn't really drill down, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I captured the hair and all that. So well, we

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<v Speaker 1>have some people represented on that cartoon and they've created

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<v Speaker 1>a faction of the Republican Party that is very very

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<v Speaker 1>very persistent about opting out of the primaries. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>already have a lawsuit going on right now, correct about

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<v Speaker 1>opting out of the primaries, about changing the law, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what I think needs to happen, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, So that one is over Proposition one eight for

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, and that was already done two years ago

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<v Speaker 4>that they were going to do do it. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>group of people that are saying, and we believe this

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<v Speaker 4>as GOPS, that it's it's in our belief it's unconstitutional

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<v Speaker 4>for a certain group to get two ballots a Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>and Republican ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>So we figured that it's unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know anywhere in the world that gets to

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<v Speaker 4>do that that a certain group gets two ballots, it

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<v Speaker 4>has to turn in one that has a militia. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of other reasons why that's a I believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bad idea. We can talk about another time.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's supposed to be going to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 4>And so there's groups of people working on that with

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<v Speaker 4>Claremont Institute to take that to the Supreme Court, going

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<v Speaker 4>as this constitutional.

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<v Speaker 3>Are not constitutional because.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in twenty fifteen before I think we all remember it,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember it. If an independent wanted to be a

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<v Speaker 4>part of the primary process, they just had to do

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<v Speaker 4>what you can do in Colorado, same day, voteric younger

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<v Speaker 4>registration and get that ballot, decide and then change back.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, shenanigans have been going on for years of

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<v Speaker 4>that happening before eight. So that's where we are heavy

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<v Speaker 4>that lawsuit. I'm not we will not hear an answer

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<v Speaker 4>for the twenty sixth election.

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<v Speaker 3>Right this is the game that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have in front of us, and that's it, Britta.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to play the game that's in front of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Were the rules, Yeah, we can't take a football to

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<v Speaker 3>a tennis netch, No, we got tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to play the game as the rules are written.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, And know that this lawsuit is working its

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<v Speaker 1>realize it takes forever, and I realized that I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand all of those frustrations. But but what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>right now with this divisiveness in the Republican Party is

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to snatch defeat from potential jaws of victory.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we've just got to get We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to restore some balance to the legislature more than anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and we're not going to let this faction. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna let this small, the small part of the

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<v Speaker 3>greater picture to win the bigger picture. We're finding other

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<v Speaker 4>We're finding very conservative groups to work with, other organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>We're within the party. You still have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that want to win.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to win, and the only way to win

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only way. So we have to reach out

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<v Speaker 3>to them. And I'm just going to share with.

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<v Speaker 4>You what I've seen the best part of this job

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<v Speaker 4>right now. And I know there's a lot of good things,

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<v Speaker 4>and I love all of it, and I love getting

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<v Speaker 4>up in the morning and hitting the ground running and

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<v Speaker 4>let's go is sadly, Sadly the Republican nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 4>was nine ten when Charlie.

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<v Speaker 3>Kirk was murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Daily, we are getting people coming into the party. They're

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<v Speaker 4>coming through you know, reaching out to us through X you.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just getting people constantly coming in and I get

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<v Speaker 4>to take every one of those calls, call them, talk

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<v Speaker 4>to them, find where they want to be, what do

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<v Speaker 4>they want to do. It's people that are getting off

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<v Speaker 3>They're the gen z z's.

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<v Speaker 4>That are really happy to be around. I was even

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<v Speaker 4>talking to a high schooler yesterday and the high.

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<v Speaker 3>Schooler was going, what can I do? And I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna show his naghbors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he'll be sixteen this week and I'm like, go

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<v Speaker 4>to go do your pre registration to be sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna find you a can I help with with

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<v Speaker 4>you can work with high school you know, conservatives and

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<v Speaker 4>through turning.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, we're just gonna plug everybody in. That's how big.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's looking for community, everybody's looking for relationship and.

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<v Speaker 3>We all need to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Brenda Horne, chairman of the Colorado GOP. Chief Kitten Hurder

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<v Speaker 1>of the Colorado GOP. I do not enview you that

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<v Speaker 1>job at all. Thank you for making time for me today.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't forget to hit the donate button over at Colorado

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<v Speaker 4>gop dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good. Thanks, Brenda's that's what you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>are the actual chair of a political party.

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<v Speaker 2>You remind people to hit the donate button.