Speaker 1: I'm going Boston. Thank you, Dan. Final hour of Night
Speaker 1: Side has arrived. It's been a busy night and I've
Speaker 1: still got get up and go enough to do one
Speaker 1: more hour of show. And I'm on tomorrow night as well,
Speaker 1: my last night Side of the week. Tofa Ellis will
Speaker 1: be here with me tomorrow at eight o'clock. We'll be
Speaker 1: talking about our favorite breakfast cereals, and Matt Hannah, local musician,
Speaker 1: will be with me after we deal with Tofa and Breakfast,
Speaker 1: and Jack Hart will be here for two hours giving
Speaker 1: us a tour around Boston. So now that I've told
Speaker 1: you that this gentleman, I am proud to say is
Speaker 1: a friend. He used to be in charge of the
Speaker 1: City of Newton. As far as being a policeman, he
Speaker 1: was a lieutenant, and as I mentioned before, I took
Speaker 1: the break. Once you have achieved a rank a title
Speaker 1: that is yours for the rest of your life. He
Speaker 1: is retired from the City of Newton Police Department, but
Speaker 1: he is still a lieutenant in my eyes. Lieutenant Bruce Apothecar,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 2: To BZ Well Morgan, thank you for having me as always,
Speaker 2: and I want to say, hey, do your listeners and
Speaker 2: to all the officers are anybody in uniform tonight. I
Speaker 2: wish you were safe and a healthy night, and make
Speaker 2: sure you get home safe.
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you something, my son. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say the community. He moved down to
Speaker 1: the Carolinas. That'll keep it generic enough, but he's working
Speaker 1: as a spokesperson for one of the police departments down there.
Speaker 2: Really. Yes, I always enjoyed my interactions with him, always
Speaker 2: a true professional, and I was sorry to see him
Speaker 2: leave the area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's where he is now. And I told
Speaker 1: him if ever he needed guidance with a question dealing
Speaker 1: with the relations between the police department and the community,
Speaker 1: he should call you. And he said, Dad, you.
Speaker 2: That's say quite an honor coming from you.
Speaker 1: And I have written down five different areas where we
Speaker 1: can take our conversation for people to pay attention, to
Speaker 1: be careful out there, to quote Hill Street Blues, because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of dastardly people and all they
Speaker 1: want to do is take what is yours, and you
Speaker 1: don't want them to take what's yours because you've worked
Speaker 1: hard for everything that you have. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: start off with funerals, and there are of a roads
Speaker 1: dealing with funerals. When it's announced in the obituaries of
Speaker 1: a newspaper that Joe Smith died and the services are
Speaker 1: going to be on Friday at wherever, there are people
Speaker 1: that scan the papers and that gives them an indication
Speaker 1: of maybe a house that will be unoccupied, or they
Speaker 1: want to go to a certain cemetery. And you know
Speaker 1: of these dastardly people that prey on the vehicles that
Speaker 1: are there at a cemetery. Tell people about some of
Speaker 1: the the scams that happen when you are saying goodbye
Speaker 1: to a loved one and your car is now unguarded,
Speaker 1: unwatched for a period of time.
Speaker 2: Well, as we always say, for a crime to happen,
Speaker 2: two things need to be You need motive, an opportunity.
Speaker 2: And like you said, when there's a obituary posted and
Speaker 2: that someone passed away, a loved one and he gives
Speaker 2: out the information on the family, people would take advantage
Speaker 2: of that and maybe breaking someone's home, or like you said,
Speaker 2: they can go into a vehicle. You know, this is
Speaker 2: an old type of scheme that's been happening. I know,
Speaker 2: I remember the old Dragnet shows. I remember watching it
Speaker 2: that it was occurring on a dragnet show from the sixties.
Speaker 2: So it's something that's been out there, and I've actually
Speaker 2: worked a couple of details. I was hired by people
Speaker 2: over the years to watch their homes when they either
Speaker 2: went to awake or they were going to a funeral
Speaker 2: of a loved one. But it's something again that you
Speaker 2: want to just you know, it's the same thing when
Speaker 2: people go on vacation and they post on social media
Speaker 2: and they got their pictures that they're, you know, somewhere
Speaker 2: someplace tropical skiing for the weekend, and now they've just
Speaker 2: told everybody that they're not hold And this would make
Speaker 2: something that the opportunity would be there for someone who
Speaker 2: wanted to bring into.
Speaker 1: A house and from the activity at a cemetery ladies,
Speaker 1: and this works for everybody, but I'm specifically addressing women.
Speaker 1: You leave your pocket book in the car, but you
Speaker 1: leave the car unlocked, or you think you're protecting the
Speaker 1: pocketbook and you put it in the trunk out of sight,
Speaker 1: out of mind, but the car is unlocked, and there's
Speaker 1: a little switch either by the seat or in the
Speaker 1: glove compartment that releases the lock on the truck. And
Speaker 1: the bad guys know this, and the bad guys take
Speaker 1: advantage of it, and more often than not, you only
Speaker 1: attend a funeral a handful of times in your life.
Speaker 1: Be aware. Lock the car. If you want to leave
Speaker 1: belongings in the car, fine, but lock the car and
Speaker 1: take your keys with you. That way, they can't get
Speaker 1: into the car, flip the latch to open the trunk.
Speaker 1: Am I right, Bruce?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And you know this not only goes with you know,
Speaker 2: if someone loved one pass away, if you're attending a funeral,
Speaker 2: but it also, you know, is dependent upon you doing
Speaker 2: this every night when you get home. You know, for
Speaker 2: many years, when I used to do all the media,
Speaker 2: I can't say how many times a year we would
Speaker 2: put out something either in the news, who's on social
Speaker 2: media and reminding people to lock the doors of their
Speaker 2: vehicles and remove all valuables, you know, because like you said,
Speaker 2: you know, nowadays, with these new vehicles, you push a button,
Speaker 2: the trunk's gonna open, so it's really removing your valuables
Speaker 2: out of your vehicle. And I can, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: I think it was somewhere around ninety seven percent of
Speaker 2: all car breakings we had years ago. Was all because
Speaker 2: of an unlocked door. Yeah, and if the only time
Speaker 2: that they probably would break a window if the door
Speaker 2: was locked is if they saw something of value in
Speaker 2: that vehicle. So, no matter what you do, every time
Speaker 2: you make it happen of it. You take all your vehicle,
Speaker 2: your valuables, you'll remove them for your vehicle. And if
Speaker 2: you lock your door, what's gonna happen? If they're gonna
Speaker 2: move on down they see your car, there's nothing near
Speaker 2: the doors are locked, and they'll move on to your
Speaker 2: neighbor's cards.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this. You drive through Dunkin Donuts,
Speaker 1: you buy your coffee, you give them a five dollar bill,
Speaker 1: you get back, you know, a couple of bills and change,
Speaker 1: and you leave it there in the coin cup space
Speaker 1: in the car, and you forget about it. That's now
Speaker 1: visible and you're thinking, Oh, who is going to break
Speaker 1: into my car to take a dollar in change? Twelve thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 1: fifteen year old kids, that's who. And they know that
Speaker 1: they can go from vehicle to vehicle to vehicle look
Speaker 1: in and see that, and they know that if they
Speaker 1: break into enough vehicles, they've got the money that they need.
Speaker 1: For what have you, whether it's drugs or the ability
Speaker 1: to go to a movie, you are giving them temptation.
Speaker 1: Remove the temptation. I've got to take my break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, I've got three or four more areas
Speaker 1: to cover with Lieutenant Bruce of Pothaka, formerly of the
Speaker 1: City of Newton. You noticed how I emphasized that Bruce
Speaker 1: the city. I hear them, So if you want to
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Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
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Speaker 1: Morgan, I'm here with my buddy, Lieutenant Bruce Apothecer. We're
Speaker 1: talking about, especially during the summer, things from which you
Speaker 1: should be aware, and I'm going to talk about crowds.
Speaker 1: There was a football game today, Patriots one. From what
Speaker 1: I hear, seventeen to three. And if you're in a
Speaker 1: crowd waiting to get in and thousands of people around you.
Speaker 1: Femway Park, Foxborough at the beach. That is ripe pickings
Speaker 1: for you to be pickpocketed. These pickpockets either work alone
Speaker 1: or in teams. And that casual little bump as somebody's
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze by you, that impact of their body
Speaker 1: coming into contact with you. They've learned the time that
Speaker 1: bump so well that their hand goes for your wallet
Speaker 1: and you don't even know that they've lifted your wallet.
Speaker 1: And Lieutenant Bruce, you want to speak to that police.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you raise a good issue here more and
Speaker 2: same time, you're in sort of a crowded situation, whether
Speaker 2: you're in a you know, a stadium, at a subway,
Speaker 2: you're walking through downtown somewhere, and you know the people
Speaker 2: are getting close to here. You know what you want
Speaker 2: to do is you know they have these different the
Speaker 2: old fanny packs. They know some people would keep them
Speaker 2: in front of them. They keep their arm over it.
Speaker 2: You could have a front pocket. You keep your hands
Speaker 2: on your money inside your pockets, but you know it's
Speaker 2: probably not a good idea. Sometimes when you're around a
Speaker 2: lot of people, you have some sort of wallet or
Speaker 2: something in your back pocket because these people are professionals
Speaker 2: and they can lift that wallet right out of your
Speaker 2: pocket without you even knowing it. So you always want
Speaker 2: to have control over something, whether it's in your front pockets,
Speaker 2: with your hands in your pockets, to just hold on
Speaker 2: to that I have some sort of money belt that
Speaker 2: they have. You know, these are things that we're having
Speaker 2: these conversations tonight to tell people that it's common sense.
Speaker 2: We know, you know these things exist, that's happened in
Speaker 2: the past, and so you're just being aware of, you know,
Speaker 2: these type of things. When you leave the house, you
Speaker 2: know where you're going. You're gonna go to the grocery store.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times we used to
Speaker 2: take reports at one of the grocery stores in Newton
Speaker 2: that people would get to the register and the wallet
Speaker 2: wanted to be in the poker book. And then you know,
Speaker 2: as they uh go over the story with us with
Speaker 2: taking the reports, you know, we find out that they
Speaker 2: left their Parker books and the carriage right and then
Speaker 2: you know they went over to uh look at the
Speaker 2: fruit or they're you know, looking at the apples, they're
Speaker 2: putting something in a bag, and that's when somebody's opening
Speaker 2: up that pocket book and removing that wallet. So always
Speaker 2: have eyes on your money, and you know, never leave
Speaker 2: anything in a carriage, especially if you're not going to
Speaker 2: have your eyes on it all the time. And you know,
Speaker 2: one thing, just you know you mentioned Duncan Donuts before
Speaker 2: with the change and things like that. I can't tell
Speaker 2: you how many times over the years, you know, somebody will,
Speaker 2: especially now with the mobile orders. It's a hot day,
Speaker 2: it's a cold day, they run in, they keep the
Speaker 2: car running, and you know these it's right for someone
Speaker 2: you know, getting into your vehicle stealing things right out
Speaker 2: of your vehicle as you're inside. Those who are actually
Speaker 2: stealing your vehicle yep. And so again, first of all,
Speaker 2: if it's someone fracting to your motor vehicle running, you know,
Speaker 2: we do not in the vehicle, so you could, you know,
Speaker 2: you're subject to getting a ticket. And you know if
Speaker 2: your kai gets solen, you know that's something that your
Speaker 2: insurance company actually might say, well listen, you know you
Speaker 2: didn't have the car secured. You actually kept it running,
Speaker 2: and so it's just something that common sense always prevails.
Speaker 2: You know, we're still in August, so hot weather, you know,
Speaker 2: Thank god. I haven't seen any reports of any children,
Speaker 2: you know, recently being listening of vehicle. I saw was
Speaker 2: a port the other day about two dogs up and
Speaker 2: at them that had been left out on the heat.
Speaker 2: But you know what, you gotta make sure your parent,
Speaker 2: your grandparents, if you're dropping some kids off for someone
Speaker 2: you know, you leave that vehicle on a hot day,
Speaker 2: you got to always look make sure that you know
Speaker 2: those children are not left on the vehicle alone, because
Speaker 2: as we know, within seconds on a hot day that
Speaker 2: God tempers you can go over one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: very easily.
Speaker 1: And that goes for pets. I had a person on
Speaker 1: last night talking about just that, how quickly a seventy
Speaker 1: degree day becomes one hundred and ten to twenty. In
Speaker 1: the car if the windows wound up, there's no way
Speaker 1: of conditioning. And whether you're talking about your collie or
Speaker 1: your four or five six year old son daughter.
Speaker 2: Yep, do that.
Speaker 1: Home or take them with you, or if you have
Speaker 1: to leave a kid in the car, leave the windows
Speaker 1: down as a last resort. That's better than winding up
Speaker 1: the windows and leaving the kid in for the quick
Speaker 1: ten minutes that you're running into the store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, two of the pets. You know,
Speaker 2: we've seen it over the years. We've had many officers
Speaker 2: responsor to those type of calls over the years where
Speaker 2: a person left the pad inside the vehicle. Again, we're
Speaker 2: talking about these things, and I'm glad you know we
Speaker 2: are that simple things that sometimes people forget about, but
Speaker 2: these are the things that make the headlines when someone's
Speaker 2: not thinking and something tragically happens.
Speaker 1: All right, let's switch to vacations. And there are so
Speaker 1: many different specifics that I'm going to have Ruth speak
Speaker 1: to on the subject of taking vacation. You're going away
Speaker 1: for a week, your mail, your newspaper, the delivery from
Speaker 1: the milkman, if you are lucky enough to still have
Speaker 1: that luxury. A lot of people don't do that anymore,
Speaker 1: but Bruce speak to that issue and tell people how
Speaker 1: they should be careful around those issues. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, we've talked about this in the past where
Speaker 2: you know, you mentioned a few things or anything that
Speaker 2: you should do. If you haven't trust the neighbor, you
Speaker 2: want them to watch your house. You always want to
Speaker 2: make it look like your house has lived in And
Speaker 2: I know you over the years have talked about. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe you have some toys or something. You know, your
Speaker 2: kids may be a little bit older, but you have
Speaker 2: some toys outside that you don't mind. The you know, uh,
Speaker 2: the right if you don't mind, have a couple of
Speaker 2: those gets stolen our you know, the weather blows it
Speaker 2: away as them. But you know, you want to make
Speaker 2: you want people to believe that you're inside that house
Speaker 2: and that there's activity going in there. I always recommend
Speaker 2: you can get yourself a radio, a battery operated radio,
Speaker 2: and you want to maybe put that radio on at
Speaker 2: a sound that if somebody comes to your back door
Speaker 2: somewhere near your house, they can hear this. You don't
Speaker 2: want to make it too loud because if too loud,
Speaker 2: you know, someone might right. Not only that, but someone
Speaker 2: might say, hey, listen, this is just a ruse to
Speaker 2: h you know, for to believe that someone's actually staying
Speaker 2: in there. So you want to make it believable and
Speaker 2: plausible enough that if somebody comes to your door, rings
Speaker 2: the belt to see if someone's home, or they just
Speaker 2: walk up to that back door, they hear something and
Speaker 2: then they assume that someone's inside the house. There's always
Speaker 2: the motion detective lights inside the houses where actually on
Speaker 2: the outside of the houses, but they have the timers
Speaker 2: on the inside where you can have certain lights turn
Speaker 2: on at a certain time. Again, why are you doing that?
Speaker 2: You want to make sure that someone's coming to your
Speaker 2: house believes that someone's in there. And if they're there
Speaker 2: to break into your house, they're not going to because
Speaker 2: they're assuming that someone is inside that house and they
Speaker 2: move on to the next house.
Speaker 1: What I'm about to say may sound inconsiderate, but you've
Speaker 1: got four houses in a row. House one, house two,
Speaker 1: House three, House four. There are bad guys out there
Speaker 1: looking to pill for yep. If house number one looks unhospitable,
Speaker 1: the bad guys are going to go to house number two,
Speaker 1: which is what you want. If your house number one,
Speaker 1: you want the bad guys to look at your house
Speaker 1: and say, no, something's fishy. I don't think I can
Speaker 1: get away with what I've planned. Let me look at
Speaker 1: your house number two. You want the bad guys to
Speaker 1: move away from your property and look towards the next property.
Speaker 1: You're not wishing bad luck happen to your next door neighbor,
Speaker 1: but you're wishing that bad luck doesn't happen to you
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know the other thing is and going on
Speaker 2: that piggybacking on that you want to get to know
Speaker 2: your neighbors. You want to have that comfortable relationship with
Speaker 2: them that if you're going to leave your house and
Speaker 2: you do have trust in them, and you know, you
Speaker 2: can tell them to watch your house if there's anything there.
Speaker 2: Like packages. Nowadays we you know, every Amazon comes to
Speaker 2: everybody's house, fad X ups the mail. Everybody's getting these
Speaker 2: packages dropped off. Not so many people are ordering things online.
Speaker 2: And you'll have people that will come up and they
Speaker 2: see a bunch of packages right there. They know that
Speaker 2: probably nobody's home, you know, starting to pile up outside
Speaker 2: your door. Only will they steal those packages, but now
Speaker 2: they know there's nobody at home. So again you might
Speaker 2: want to what the whether it's Amazon or one of
Speaker 2: those companies, you might want to let them know maybe
Speaker 2: to deliver it come or else, maybe to one of
Speaker 2: your neighbor's homes. You would tell them that this way
Speaker 2: it wouldn't actually you won't have to bother them by
Speaker 2: having them come over your house and take all the packages.
Speaker 2: And you know, these are things I think of also
Speaker 2: if you're going to be away from intended period of time,
Speaker 2: you could have the items that delivered to a family
Speaker 2: member's house doesn't have to come to your house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you work to five, but your uncle, your aunt,
Speaker 1: your grandpa is home during the day. Have it to
Speaker 1: say over the grandpa's house. Now, I've got a news
Speaker 1: hit to take. Lieutenant Bruster Poster and I have a
Speaker 1: few other points we're going to cover, and we're telling
Speaker 1: you these things hopefully so you will not become a statistic.
Speaker 1: We don't want you to have to fill out an
Speaker 1: insurance report. We don't want you to get bopped over
Speaker 1: the head because somebody wants to steal your wallet. We're
Speaker 1: trying to help you to be aware of some of
Speaker 1: these things that are commonly happening to everybody, and we
Speaker 1: don't want it to be you. Now, I'm about to
Speaker 1: take my news hit. If you want to call in
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Speaker 1: nine to nine, ten thirty. We've got a half hour
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Speaker 3: Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Lieutenant proofs of Parthecer formerly of the City of Newton
Speaker 1: Police Department and I Morgan White Junior having a primer primer,
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to pronounce that word. We're
Speaker 1: trying to teach you awareness things that you can do
Speaker 1: to protect you and your family from being a statistic.
Speaker 1: You go to a funeral, you need to know there
Speaker 1: are people who are watching the vehicles that are parked
Speaker 1: to pay respects to a loved one who's passed on,
Speaker 1: and they know your car is unlocked. Maybe you've left
Speaker 1: a pocketbook in the trunk. Easy to pop the trunk
Speaker 1: if the car's unlocked, to get inside the car and
Speaker 1: do it. And they do it in such a way
Speaker 1: it's a smoothest silk operation. It's done in fifteen to
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Done. They've got your wallet, they've got your
Speaker 1: credit cards or in crowds, how to protect it, especially
Speaker 1: ladies with a part pocket book. You'd be amazed how
Speaker 1: easy it is for some of these people to unsnap
Speaker 1: your purse, put the hand in there, feel for the
Speaker 1: wallet or cash or what have you, and it's over
Speaker 1: and done in ten seconds and you weren't even aware
Speaker 1: of it. We Lieutenant Bruce and I are trying to
Speaker 1: help you. Now we lift off on vacation issues. Did
Speaker 1: you cover everything you wanted to say?
Speaker 2: I think so Again, I you know, you want to
Speaker 2: maybe notify your local police department that you're going to
Speaker 2: have a closed house, and you know officers would ride by.
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna go up and check your doors, but they'll
Speaker 2: go to go by and they'll you know, check on
Speaker 2: the house to see if it works good, if there's
Speaker 2: any and you want to tell them what type of
Speaker 2: vehicles that you have, they'll.
Speaker 1: Be in the driveway.
Speaker 2: Again, trust the name a family member. Somebody could go
Speaker 2: buy your house and check on if you're going to
Speaker 2: be away for an extended period of time. And again,
Speaker 2: I think one of the big things is that we
Speaker 2: talked about it is what are you posting on social
Speaker 2: media to letting everybody know that you're not at home.
Speaker 2: So maybe you could wait until you come back before
Speaker 2: you post those nice vacation photos. But you're back in
Speaker 2: your home, You're living there, as opposed to being thousands
Speaker 2: of miles away, one hundreds of miles away, and everybody
Speaker 2: knows that your home is you know, nobody's there. It's
Speaker 2: unsecured in the sense.
Speaker 1: I went to San Francisco for the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Here are the photos. We're now in the second week
Speaker 1: of August. That's the smarter way of doing it.
Speaker 2: Again. It's common sense.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Years ago, I remember I was at a training and
Speaker 2: someone said, it really is no more common sense anymore,
Speaker 2: because what's common to you might not be common for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's so many things that we talk
Speaker 2: about for safety, and I think one thing is very
Speaker 2: important and that we never really talk about it is
Speaker 2: the Internet safety. And you know, so if parents are listening,
Speaker 2: you know, back in the nineteen eighties, there was a
Speaker 2: side this over protectiveness of children. People were afraid that
Speaker 2: the kids are going to get kidnapped. They want to
Speaker 2: let them walk to school. They were driving up the school.
Speaker 2: And this over protectiveness, believe it or not, took away
Speaker 2: resiliency from children. And what we find and all the
Speaker 2: research has shown, this is a great book out there
Speaker 2: called the Anxious Generation. They were have talks about it
Speaker 2: is the great rewiring of the brain. So this over
Speaker 2: protectiveness of the eighties and now like especially children bought
Speaker 2: after nineteen ninety eight Generation Z, there's really an underprote
Speaker 2: activeness that parents have about what are their kids doing
Speaker 2: on the internet. And so this is a troubling, you know,
Speaker 2: fact that they're seeing these kids' brains are actually being rewired,
Speaker 2: and no run and just just having kids go out
Speaker 2: and play in the streets, play in a playground. That's
Speaker 2: actually we had wanted, but you know, playing a playground
Speaker 2: or be with their friends, walk to school. We've got
Speaker 2: to get kids off of these smartphones. And it's just
Speaker 2: something that you know, we talk about things all the
Speaker 2: time about safety, but you know that internet safety. Parents
Speaker 2: aren't watching what the kids are doing online. And I
Speaker 2: can't say how many times I've seen parents walking with
Speaker 2: children while the parents looking at the cell phone and
Speaker 2: they're walking out into the middle of traffic, you know,
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, like the horn and they
Speaker 2: have to jump back. So, you know, you got to
Speaker 2: get to get your face out of those smartphones when
Speaker 2: you're walking your children. And you just said to actually
Speaker 2: pay attention to your children and see what I'll be
Speaker 2: doing online because there are so many things out there
Speaker 2: that kids are always trying to be, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: alured into something that from.
Speaker 1: Another perspective, everybody out there on the internet online is
Speaker 1: and I'll make it as generic as possible. Five foot six,
Speaker 1: blonde and beautiful. Right, necessarily you could be go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just say, if you listeners don't know me,
Speaker 2: you just describe me.
Speaker 1: I digress and they're all twenty six years old or
Speaker 1: they're all seventeen years old, and nothing could be further
Speaker 1: from the truth. The bad guy actually know how to lie.
Speaker 1: They know how to misrepresent themselves, their description, whether it's
Speaker 1: fudging with their age or their look, height, their resume
Speaker 1: lines about what they have done, what they do, how
Speaker 1: they earn their living, what they drive. They know how
Speaker 1: to lie. They know what to say that is casting
Speaker 1: their fishing line on the waters and hope to hook
Speaker 1: our kids, your kids. And if you have a teenage
Speaker 1: daughter and she's fifteen, sixteen years old and she's reading
Speaker 1: what she thinks is a description of a seventeen eighteen
Speaker 1: year old boy, that could be a forty five year
Speaker 1: old quote unquote, dirty old man. You need to make
Speaker 1: sure your kids have been given enough smarts to be
Speaker 1: able to sift through what they see and not fall
Speaker 1: for the traps that people lay out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, not only that, but you hit it right on
Speaker 2: the head. I couldn't have said that any better. And
Speaker 2: what's interesting is that the research is so clear now
Speaker 2: that between two fifteen, the rate of suicide among young
Speaker 2: girls even young boys have started up tremendously. The anxiety,
Speaker 2: the oppression, the hopelessness, the helplessness, the uselessness of these
Speaker 2: children that they're feeling is a disconnect. You know, there's
Speaker 2: something called a tune and this atonement. When you're a
Speaker 2: young child and you know, you you smile at your parents,
Speaker 2: you might be in the crib, your parent smiles back,
Speaker 2: and so it starts at a young age. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can learn facial expressions, you can you know, how to
Speaker 2: read people see and what the inson that's doing is
Speaker 2: excuse me, what the internet's doing? And this, uh, it's
Speaker 2: my phone. Use it's taken away that and so there
Speaker 2: is no more free play. There is no more you know,
Speaker 2: going out and you know, uh, going down the playground
Speaker 2: and you know, scraping on your knees because your parents
Speaker 2: are there making sure that you're not running too hot.
Speaker 2: And you know, so the research is right. You gotta
Speaker 2: what kids be kids. They've got to learn how to fail.
Speaker 2: They have to learn resiliency. And this is probably the
Speaker 2: greatest uh. I would say, not as an expert, but
Speaker 2: from what I've been reading and I've been trying to study, it,
Speaker 2: probably among the greatest threats right now to our children.
Speaker 2: All these they know that in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: when Facebook came up with a like button, well, that's
Speaker 2: stunted kids. You know, somebody will post a picture and
Speaker 2: you know, one of their friends may post a picture
Speaker 2: of a vacation and they'll get two hundred likes, and
Speaker 2: then somebody else will post one and they get three likes,
Speaker 2: and you know, this brings people into the depression. They
Speaker 2: are comparing themselves all the time right others, and it's
Speaker 2: a very bad and dangerous situation that you know. Years ago,
Speaker 2: you and I remember when there was cigarette commercials, but
Speaker 2: they banned those because they were dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
Speaker 2: I tell people all the time, would you drive a
Speaker 2: cod down a side street one hundred miles an hour?
Speaker 2: And they say no, it's dangerous, And I say, well
Speaker 2: you would you smoke cigarettes?
Speaker 1: No, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2: But yet these children are going on these smartphones and
Speaker 2: it's not a healthy situation when what they recommend is
Speaker 2: you know, some of the research. Don't give you a
Speaker 2: child a smartphone until at least they're fourteen years of age,
Speaker 2: and don't let them on old tell them sixteen.
Speaker 1: Right, let me take my last break of the hour.
Speaker 1: We've got a phone call, and we'll only have like
Speaker 1: ten minutes a show to go once we come back
Speaker 1: from this break. Time and temperature eleven forty five sixty
Speaker 1: four degrees.
Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 3: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: This is night Side. I am Morgan, that's my buddy,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Rusupotheca, and this is David calling oy all the
Speaker 1: way from San Francisco. David, welcome to our conversation.
Speaker 4: Oh thanks Morgan and your guest. He's bringing up some
Speaker 4: pretty good int issues. I've listened to his speeches by
Speaker 4: Ralph Nader talking about giving children cell phones and letting
Speaker 4: them look at television endlessly from the earliest ages, and
Speaker 4: it does very much distort their lives. They don't have
Speaker 4: the ability to just the ability for muscle movement or
Speaker 4: cognitive development, making mistakes without being public about it. But
Speaker 4: one of the advantages to things like cell phone technology
Speaker 4: or the Internet. It's definitely a double edged sword, because
Speaker 4: I've been hearing the cell towers are actually making eggs
Speaker 4: more fragile. So the birds are dying off because their
Speaker 4: eggs are becoming more fragile, and a lot of insects. Yeah,
Speaker 4: well that's been discussed for many years, twenty thirty years.
Speaker 4: But the idea I work with hazardous wastes, you know,
Speaker 4: nuclear waste clean up, things like that, and things like
Speaker 4: cell technology gives us the ability to see what's going
Speaker 4: on while not being in proximity to the radiation, and
Speaker 4: so their advantages, but they're definitely disadvantages. And when you
Speaker 4: just look at it as we're we're having children being
Speaker 4: born into a totally artificial world. They don't know the
Speaker 4: norms of of the old, of the established, you know,
Speaker 4: laws of nature, and they take for granted the laws
Speaker 4: of the fake world, the artificial world. And so if
Speaker 4: the fake world falls apart, if the electricity goes out, Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, are the kids prepared to look to putting
Speaker 4: together a garden or you know, foraging what foods to
Speaker 4: eat and what not to eat. Yeah, it's we're we're
Speaker 4: in a hell of a trap, and it's uh, the
Speaker 4: sooner we can allow the schools to teach. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm old enough to remember when HOMEC was taught, when
Speaker 4: Driver's ed was taught. A lot of schools, yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of schools don't teach these things anymore because of insurance.
Speaker 4: And so whole generations are being denied the standards of physics,
Speaker 4: and they're they're not able to have a developed future
Speaker 4: because they're so under equipped.
Speaker 2: Ruh, well again, you know this is more specific. You know, obviously,
Speaker 2: the uh, the smartphone, it's a computer in your hand.
Speaker 2: It's more powerful than the old computer rooms at M
Speaker 2: I T years ago, and it's a great tool. However,
Speaker 2: the kids, and again the research is so quite clear
Speaker 2: that Generation Z kids won after ninety eight. Now, you
Speaker 2: and I and the call. You know, we could we
Speaker 2: could go on and we could spend hours on social media.
Speaker 2: And because our brains have already been developed, we've already
Speaker 2: had our neuron and the synapsters of those neurons. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty well defined what we are. But these
Speaker 2: young kids, uh again, the the exponential growth of suicides
Speaker 2: among young girls young boys are starting to rise up again.
Speaker 2: The anxiety, the depression that hit this generation, the uselessness
Speaker 2: that they feel, the hopelessness, the helplessness. These are things
Speaker 2: that have been you know, through evidence based research that
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's it's reaching a zenus of concern, but
Speaker 2: no one's sounding the alarm. And there are a few
Speaker 2: people out there and they're looking at these things and
Speaker 2: that's why they're doing the research on it. But again,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of parents, what they'll do is
Speaker 2: they'll they'll give a youngster a smartphone or a tabletist
Speaker 2: and it's it's like a babysitter. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that they feel I don't think that you know, nobody's
Speaker 2: going to harm their child, obviously, and no one wants
Speaker 2: to harm their child. But sometimes this information, you know,
Speaker 2: has to be given up there. And I think you'll
Speaker 2: see at some point to be social scientists that will
Speaker 2: be talking about and you'll see congressional hearings about how
Speaker 2: are we gonna put wanting labels on these things? You know,
Speaker 2: don't kids use these things until certain ages. I know
Speaker 2: one of the things they're recommending is every school take
Speaker 2: take those smartphones with me the kids in the moment
Speaker 2: they walk in the door again fourteen years old, they
Speaker 2: would I.
Speaker 1: Really, I really wish they would. And you want to
Speaker 1: know something, No One, three hundred and fifty million people
Speaker 1: in the United States, everybody that's above the age of six, seven,
Speaker 1: ten years old, no one thinks that a calamity is
Speaker 1: going to befall them. No one thinks that they're going
Speaker 1: to be bumped over the head and robbed. No one
Speaker 1: thinks that somebody is going to burst through their front
Speaker 1: door and hurt them. Until it happens, it does happen.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how to protect yourself and to be
Speaker 1: aware to keep these things from happening to you and
Speaker 1: your children. And I'm gonna give a weird example. When
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I believed in Santa Claus until
Speaker 1: the third grade. Why because I wasn't spoiled. I didn't
Speaker 1: have the pressure of the real world destroying my innocence
Speaker 1: to believe quote unquote in that fairy tale. But now
Speaker 1: kids that are in kindergarten necessarily aren't allowed to believe,
Speaker 1: and that says something about our society.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I follow you in some ways,
Speaker 4: you know your conversation is getting into absolutism as opposed
Speaker 4: to just you know, there there are advantages, but they're
Speaker 4: definitely disadvantages. And so it's you know, the as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: babysitting with a cell phone is is a real flaw.
Speaker 4: It used to be the kids just went out and
Speaker 4: danced in circles in the front yard, as opposed to
Speaker 4: you know, looking at nineteen murders a day on TV.
Speaker 4: So it's you know, getting to learn the real laws
Speaker 4: of physics as opposed to and getting the muscle strength
Speaker 4: to be able to perform the laws of physics like
Speaker 4: dancing in circles or something. Is you know, is what
Speaker 4: children are supposed to be doing at an early age,
Speaker 4: getting the muscle strength to be able to, you know,
Speaker 4: as their bodies get bigger, they have to they're growing
Speaker 4: at such a fast pace their muscles are They're big,
Speaker 4: double in size in a matter of a few years,
Speaker 4: and so they have to have this constant muscles development
Speaker 4: and cognitive development to be able to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fact look at the playgrounds, everybody, you
Speaker 1: got a playground in your neighborhood. Next time we drive
Speaker 1: by it, how occupied is it? Are there two three,
Speaker 1: four kids out there? Are there a dozen or so
Speaker 1: kids out there? The playgrounds where we used to send
Speaker 1: our kids to enjoy to exercise. Aren't as occupied as
Speaker 1: they used to be. Why the kids are inside playing
Speaker 1: on the computer, playing on the cell phone. And you know,
Speaker 1: as I look at the time, I am almost out
Speaker 1: of time. So David, we got to bring this conversation
Speaker 1: tun in. Thank you for calling. And Lieutenant Bruce, you
Speaker 1: know I appreciate every time I have you on.
Speaker 2: So you know I've never refuse you. Or you're listening
Speaker 2: as Morgan for people you're listening that don't know Morgan,
Speaker 2: he's the He's just a great guy as you all
Speaker 2: know as you listen to him, and we all love him,
Speaker 2: uh with everything he does, the King of Trivia.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, the master of.
Speaker 2: The radio wheelwaves.
Speaker 1: I'll have you on coming up in the fall, you
Speaker 1: know that. Thank you, Lieutenant. Good night, good night Allison
Speaker 1: and Krim, Thank you, Bill Dial, thank you, Susan Bragman,
Speaker 1: thank you. They were my guests tonight and Lieutenant Bruce
Speaker 1: a posseeker. I'm on tomorrow night toe for Ellis, Matt
Speaker 1: Hannah and Jack Cart will be my guests now that
Speaker 1: I've told you all that special thanks to my buddy.
Speaker 1: They're at Beezy Central Rob Brooks. He's the one who
Speaker 1: makes the show go And sitting next to me, Nancy,
Speaker 1: and lying on the floor is Gray. All of you
Speaker 1: who listened and or participated with the show, I thank
Speaker 1: you for sticking with me, specially filling in for Dan.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say, oh, dance, no on, I'm
Speaker 1: turning off the radio. So those of you who stayed
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And on that note, until tomorrow Night
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