WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:06.519 A cast classics. Sweet Bobby investigates Karata and Bobby, who 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.919 have an unusual relationship. The romance might play it online, 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.439 but in many ways it's a traditional love story until 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.800 Kirat discovers the disturbing truth. 5 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:21.839 That kind of reinforce the fact that I was right 6 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:24.000 at court him retounded. 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:27.359 To find out more about Sweet Bobby and other ACAST classics, 8 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.320 head to acast dot com Forward Slash Classics. 9 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.679 This is Where Did the Road Go? 10 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:40.960 Our aim is. 11 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:45.359 To explore the fringe to be true, skeptics in question openly, 12 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.039 to investigate the paranormal, bring light to the dark corners 13 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.679 of history, and give a voice to the shun of science. 14 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:58.119 We deal in mysteries and the important questions that these 15 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:03.159 subjects bring to light. What is reality? Who are we? 16 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:08.120 And why are we here? Join us on the web 17 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.040 at where didthroad goo. 18 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:14.159 Dot com for a full show archive, links to all 19 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:20.040 our social media, upcoming schedule, and much much more. Now 20 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:24.400 join your host Sayah on this week's edition of Where 21 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.200 Did the Road Go? 22 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:29.840 And welcome to this week's edition of Where Did the 23 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.000 Road Go? All Right Tonight, we're airing the third part 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.879 of three of the interview with Chad at Alta Dillard, 25 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.640 and they definitely have some very unusual stories. They classify 26 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.200 them as high strangeness. I think that's appropriate. Whether you 27 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.159 believe them or not, well, that's up to you. 28 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:49.400 You know. 29 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:51.640 I've had a lot of weird experiences myself, and I'm 30 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.519 not always sure I believe my own experiences. I guess 31 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.480 John Wood's kind of said it best. We don't know 32 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.760 because we weren't there, And in the end, you've got 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.280 to choose whether or not to believe the person telling 34 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.000 you the story, and whether or not you feel their 35 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:10.840 perceptions are accurate. I don't believe that Chad and Alta 36 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.479 are lying. I don't believe they're making this stuff up. 37 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:21.400 What the experiences truly consist of, Well, who knows. There's 38 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.159 so much weird stuff out there. It's really hard to tell. 39 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.840 Talking to them off air, they seem very grounded, very 40 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.800 down to earth, despite the strangeness around them. So it's 41 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.960 up to you to make up your own mind. They're 42 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.000 just telling their story and I'm giving them a platform 43 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:43.080 to do that now. Next week they have something special 44 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.280 going on. Next week in studio, We're gonna have Rich 45 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:49.360 Doland and Peter Robbins and we're just gonna be talking 46 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.759 probably all things UFOs obviously with the two of them, 47 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.120 but also they are going to be on what's called 48 00:02:56.159 --> 00:03:00.360 the Dealer's Choice Show here on WVBR. So that is 49 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:05.680 Saturday the thirteenth, and if you want to check that out, 50 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.159 you can check it out on WVBR dot com. It 51 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:14.360 airs at three pm Eastern to five pm, and the 52 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:16.520 two of them are going to be here picking their 53 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.080 favorite music and talking about well really whatever they want 54 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.560 to talk about. I'll be hosting it, and it's two 55 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.680 hours of Rich Dolan and Peter Robbins and a lot 56 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.360 of music and a lot of them outside the normal 57 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:37.400 constraints of the UFO talk they're normally on the radio for. 58 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:39.800 And then a few hours later of course they'll do 59 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:43.280 where the Road Go. In two weeks we have the 60 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.919 return of Mike Lelland and Aaron Gullias as we do 61 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.960 Part four of UFO History. Already six Killer is after that. 62 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.840 This month of June tends to be very UFO heavy. 63 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.639 It wasn't planned that way, it's just how it worked out. 64 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.680 I think we're going to do a listeners story episode 65 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.000 on Live fourth, So if you have any stories you'd 66 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.560 like to tell, get a hold of me. You can 67 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:08.639 do so at the website where didthroadgo dot com. If 68 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:10.759 I have too many to run in one show, I'll 69 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.400 do the I'll do a second part is a midweek podcast. 70 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.920 After that, we have Rick Strassman in a two part 71 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.240 interview in July, and then I have a whole host 72 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.439 of great stuff coming up for the rest of the summer, 73 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:24.959 which we will get to when we get to it. 74 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.279 So for now, Chad and Alta finish telling their story 75 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:35.600 of high Strangeness, and yeah, here it is. All right. 76 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:40.199 Then we're back again with Chad and Alta, and we're 77 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.920 gonna start this segment off by letting Luke ask you 78 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.439 some questions that were on his mind. 79 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.040 Right Well, I want to ask because I was reading 80 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.720 through your website and I see that alter you offer 81 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:01.800 spiritual guidance and almost as a professional medium, and I 82 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:06.079 was wondering, how long have you considered yourself in a medium, 83 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.839 and then how long have you provided these services. 84 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:15.360 As far as dividing the services that began in ninety five, 85 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:21.319 nineteen ninety five, after that first encounter that craft that 86 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.040 China and I tried real hard not to see that 87 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:29.639 we couldn't ignore. We left the area of Hammond that 88 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.079 was a small university town hour or so outside of 89 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.399 the French Quarter. All of a sudden, Chad and I 90 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.519 are guided to move to the French Quarter after that encounter. 91 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:45.959 And I literally had no intention of ever doing this professionally, ever, 92 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.399 because the first half of my life, you know, at 93 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:50.399 the point we moved to the French Quarter, I'm probably 94 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.319 in my late thirties by then, thirty six, thirty seven, 95 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.959 something like that. The abilities, if you will, my mom 96 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.399 claims I've had all my life, that I was horribly 97 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.600 embarrassed by it and never saw it as being gifted 98 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:11.160 or anything of that nature. My mom would always make 99 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.759 claims about me that just were very embarrassing for me, 100 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.079 using words of being a healer and all the common 101 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.160 language now, and so that again just was never comfortable 102 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.879 for me to be public about any of that. When 103 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.959 we moved to the French Quarter, I walked into a 104 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.079 shop one day just for a job. I was interested 105 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.759 in selling this man's trinkets and things that he had 106 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.079 in his shop and he provided he offered readings to 107 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:45.319 the public, and literally the minute he met me it 108 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.879 was again like where's the camera. He seemed to know 109 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:53.000 instantly that I don't know how to explain these things 110 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.360 to you other than just express how it happened to me. 111 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.360 He literally seemed to know that I had these abilities. 112 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.800 A woman walked into his shop before he hired me 113 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.560 to get a reading and asked if anybody was there 114 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.959 to do so. And this man looked at me and said, 115 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.920 she's right here, pointed at me, and sent me in 116 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:16.839 this room with this woman. I mean, I got picked 117 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.959 up and thrown in head first, and I could not 118 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.920 believe the things that I was able to detect and 119 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:25.240 what I was able to do with this woman. And 120 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.680 I tried to fight it for a while, for weeks, 121 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.839 if you will. I was really struggling with the idea 122 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:37.720 of doing anything like this professionally, and yet I realized 123 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:41.000 I'm in the city of you know, New Orleans, French 124 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.680 Quarter in particular. As they said, the people I went 125 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.639 to work for started their business in nineteen twenty nine, 126 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.519 So not only were they well established, but they worked 127 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:56.319 with every caliber of celebrity sports phenom around the world. 128 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:58.720 People came from all over the world to these shops, 129 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.079 to this reading and so I seemed to be in 130 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.519 the best of company. I felt that it was the 131 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:13.040 safest and it was represented so well that it took 132 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.399 the embarrassment out of it. And then it became my lifestyle, 133 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.120 it became my income. I did happen to be the 134 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.360 only reader that was selected in New Orleans to be 135 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.399 put in a book about New Orleans by a woman 136 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.240 that was a journalist with the Washington Post, And so 137 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.759 I started to reach a state of a little bit 138 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:37.559 of celebrity I never asked for, and that started to 139 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.639 convince me, you know, maybe I was doing something right 140 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.320 and have just continued since. 141 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:45.960 I got you. 142 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.840 Do you and or Chad consider yourselves religious or spiritual? 143 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:53.120 Okay? 144 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:59.240 Yes, I mean I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church, 145 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:03.120 but I had always known that there was, you know, 146 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:11.840 more to it than just I don't know what to say, yeah, 147 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:19.200 the dogma, you know, and I just found that as 148 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.080 far as a box church, there was more to it. 149 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:29.279 There was more that not in the box. So, you know, 150 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:34.000 once we started on our journey, and then of course, 151 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:38.200 you know, with our experience, you know, it just kind 152 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.559 of so I've always yes, I'm very spiritual as far 153 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:47.440 as you know, joy, peace and love is my religion. 154 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.720 And in my case, I'm raised. I was raised by 155 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:55.960 a mother who I believe cor world started off in 156 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.080 the Catholic religion, and I was supposed to that when 157 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.159 I'm little. I don't have memory of that, but this is, 158 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.159 of course, you know, what she has told me. And 159 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.480 then as my memories, as I start to have memory, 160 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:18.840 I started exploring different all religions. Basically, I was very 161 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:23.080 interested in all religions, and I've spent a great deal 162 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:28.039 of my time studying and experiencing and what have you 163 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.639 to this day. Now, though I have to be quite honest, 164 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.360 because that's the whole point of coming forward, I don't 165 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:41.679 consider myself one who has any longer a belief system. Period. 166 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:46.639 I am so open. I feel that I've been so expanded, 167 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:51.279 either by my own doing or an outside force, that 168 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.799 I don't even know how to answer questions like that 169 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:00.360 any longer. I feel it's so much bigger than meets 170 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:01.080 the eye. 171 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.799 And as I know, we haven't finished talking about your experiences, 172 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:10.559 but I mean, have your experiences with high strangeness affected 173 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:14.360 your spirituality or how you look at life with the universe. 174 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.200 In my case, in particular, as I said, I'm so expanded. 175 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.399 My brain felt like it exploded time after time after 176 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.799 time again, and anything I ever thought I knew went 177 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:31.360 right out the window. I truly chat and I say 178 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.320 this often in our twenty five years together. We know nothing, 179 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.279 and it just feels like that's getting bigger and bigger 180 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.080 of an understanding is that we know nothing in terms 181 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:45.799 of as I said, I don't have a belief system 182 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:51.159 any longer. I'm just I truly feel the essence of love. 183 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:55.080 To me, love is and it's the most difficult thing 184 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.639 to put your finger on as you're living in a 185 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:01.960 human body experiencing this is what I think is a movie. 186 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:06.559 To me, this is all a big movie, and I 187 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.559 just feel that it's just so much bigger than anybody 188 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.799 can truly comprehend. It's hard. 189 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.360 I often feel that the more you truly learned about stuff, 190 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.159 the more you realize how little you know. 191 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:27.519 Absolutely. We just we've made it our mantra constantly. We're 192 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.000 constantly reminding each other we know nothing. 193 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.320 Now, do you have anything else for the moment, Luke? 194 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:36.200 Not for the moment? 195 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.919 No, okay, well let's go back to Alabama. Then, well 196 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.440 we left off last last time, No Alabama. 197 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:53.440 So another incident we're having. We'd just gone to bed 198 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.919 and you know, we had a we had a you know, 199 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.200 window right on the wall, all right beside our bed, 200 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.960 and all of a sudden, there was this green explosion 201 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.759 of light, lime green. It was kind of a lime 202 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:17.840 kneon green. Now the only thing out that window of wood. 203 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.559 I mean, there's no houses back there, very rural. Yeah, 204 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.000 this was clumpy, and we're like, what the heck. So 205 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.840 we both jump out of bed, you know, because I mean, 206 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:34.639 it lit up the room. It was so bright, and 207 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.440 we run out the out, you know, run out of 208 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.759 the bedroom and out the back door to see if 209 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:45.559 we could see anything. Nothing there, no lights, no people, 210 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:51.279 you know, there's you know, nothing in the woods. Just crazy, 211 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:56.559 just crazy green flask of light. And I mean it 212 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:57.120 was bright. 213 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:59.759 We lit up our room and it lit up our 214 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:04.639 or it was as Shed's described it, exactly the way 215 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:08.159 he described it. And again to this day, no answers 216 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:13.720 at all to what in the world that was, So 217 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.759 it wasn't probably it feels like it was all within 218 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:22.039 that same time frame. It happens to be my birthday, 219 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:27.960 and I'd like to also mention that we had woods 220 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.639 behind us. Now years later, some of those woods were 221 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.840 being taken out and people were moving in back there, 222 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:40.519 but while it's still woods. Chad and I had it 223 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:45.919 we were buying a split level duplex where the house 224 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:51.279 downstairs was almost underground somewhat, and then the house upstairs 225 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.679 had a big deck built on the back of it. 226 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.879 So I used to go and sit up on that 227 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.919 deck during the daytime while Chad was off at work 228 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.840 and I worked out of the home, and I'd sit 229 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:11.320 up on that deck and all of a sudden, I 230 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:15.360 started hearing what I call a hoop barker. It was 231 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.000 an owl or owls that would forget how to owl, 232 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.799 how to hoot, and turn into bark like dog barking. 233 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:29.399 So I'm talking to a girlfriend long distance on the 234 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.639 phone and she can hear this. I've got the phone 235 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:36.159 out saying, can you hear this hoop barker? What in 236 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.799 you know? What in God's name hoot barker in my 237 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:45.080 tricking backyard? And I'm thinking, you know, I thought Alabama 238 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:52.279 was different, But that's just going beyond thinking, because this 239 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:58.679 hoop barking became an inside joke, but truly started scaring 240 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.480 the stuff out of me because I knew what I 241 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.200 was hearing, and I knew that my girlfriends that were 242 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.039 talking to me on the phone were hearing this. It 243 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.320 was as if I always needed a witness, and I've 244 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:15.840 always had witnesses to these events, these occasions that would 245 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:20.879 happen to us. So it's around my birthday in May, 246 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:29.840 Jacqueline flew in from out of state from one direction, 247 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.519 and another girlfriend that we had met in the French 248 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.679 Quarter that I had worked with even prior to meeting Jacqueline, 249 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.480 her name Alison. She was living in New York City 250 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:43.159 at the time. She flew in from that direction to 251 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:50.919 come celebrate my birthday. So Chad gets a boat for 252 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.960 the day from a guy that he worked with. They 253 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.279 all blew all friends. They wanted to take us out 254 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.720 on the lake and spend my birthday out on the 255 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:05.119 lake having a birthday party. So we spend all day long, playing, 256 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.519 eating and drinking and just being merry and having a 257 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:15.079 joyous day. Jacqueline. I had never seen Jacqueline drunk. I've 258 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.839 never seen her not in control. She's not a drama 259 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.440 clean of any kind. But on this particular day, we'd 260 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.440 had a lot of fun in the sun, and she 261 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.920 needed to when we finally got home, she needed to 262 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.359 lay down and just go to sleep. But I swear 263 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.440 to you it's felt more to me, almost like she 264 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:39.720 was being knocked out. Chad needed to go to bed. 265 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.079 He didn't drink at all. He was just exhausted from 266 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.119 putting up at the girls all day long out on 267 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:46.960 the lake, and he had a lot of fun too 268 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.880 that he was exhausted. So Chad goes off into the bedroom. 269 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:54.480 Those dogs we spoke about earlier, the big black Great 270 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:59.039 Dane and the Roddy Dough they had beds just outside 271 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:03.119 of our bedroom door, or so, they're all, it's everybody's 272 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.519 in bed, but Alison and I. Now, Alison and I 273 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.759 are sober. I just again feel the need to preface 274 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.960 that because we had drank that day, but we were 275 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.079 we've gone out to suffer after, you know, the day 276 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.559 out on the boat. We'd had a big dinner, so 277 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:23.000 every Alison and I were clearly in our heads knew 278 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:28.720 exactly what was happening to us. We decided this is 279 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.680 so out of character. I don't ever remember doing it 280 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.839 before this, nor do I necessarily remember doing it after this. 281 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:39.599 We look at each other and decide we're going to 282 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.960 go upstairs on the deck and go stargaze, and again, 283 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.200 very out of character, that's just what we did. We 284 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.079 trotted upstairs and went through the upstairs house and went 285 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:57.839 out on that deck. Before we could get our chairs placed, literally, 286 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:04.160 Alison let out a like a joyous glee kind of yelp. 287 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.319 And I got my attention instantly because it scared me. 288 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:10.880 And I look up at her direction. What she's looking 289 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:17.480 up in the sky and we saw something moving zigzaggy 290 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:18.559 in the sky. 291 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:20.319 It looked like a star. 292 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:25.480 Doing a dance like zigzagging, you know, and they don't 293 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.039 do that right, And well, it clearly was not a satellite. 294 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.839 It happened instantly, but we both saw it. And by 295 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.559 this time now I turned back around kind of more 296 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:43.480 to my right to place my chair and again my 297 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.480 head is up in the sky and I saw it 298 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.799 happen as well. It happened a second time. Now, this 299 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:56.039 is pretty instantaneous. It lasted a flash. Now if that's 300 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:59.880 not strange enough. We look at each other, we hugg 301 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.000 each other, and we decide, well, that's enough, We're going 302 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.960 to go to bed now. And I'm thinking as I'm 303 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:10.119 repeating this to you. How weird all of this sounds, 304 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.920 but that's just what happened to us. So rather than 305 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.640 come back down the stairs through the house like we'd 306 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:21.160 gone up originally, we decided to go down the steps 307 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:25.599 outside the deck and come back through the backyard. The 308 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.799 way the house was set up, we had glass doors, 309 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.920 French doors out into the backyard. In the downstairs house. 310 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.200 Jacqueline has laid down on a couch that's just a 311 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.880 few feet away from those doors. Those big dogs I 312 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.200 speak about are only, if I don't know, twenty feet 313 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.440 away from Jacqueline and Chad is just around the corner 314 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.559 in our bedroom with a big window pict your window, 315 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:52.720 right next to our bed. Before Jack, before Alison and 316 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.960 I can get to those French doors, as we're coming 317 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.240 through the back yome, as I said to you before, 318 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:04.480 we've got woods back there with that groupwarker. Literally. Now 319 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:08.079 this is where people start to really roll their eyes 320 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:10.880 at me. If all the other stuff hasn't sounded strange enough. 321 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.079 And this is very difficult for me to repeat, but 322 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.279 this is my absolute truth. Before Alison and I could 323 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.880 reach those French doors, we start to hear what sounds 324 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:29.160 like I call them Sasquatcheese, I call them ghosties. I've 325 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.880 tried really hard throughout my life to take that scary 326 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.079 out of what is so scary that it's been hard 327 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:38.440 to live with throughout our lives. As we're coming through 328 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.079 that yard, we hear what sound like what people call 329 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:52.119 bigfoot sasquatch whatever, screams, hollers coming out of the woods, 330 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:58.240 and it sounds like so many of them. I've always 331 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:04.279 sounded like I've exaggerated this story, but I heard thousands 332 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.359 of collars and screams all at the same time in 333 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:13.880 my head. But this sound was palatable, and it was mortifying. 334 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:19.400 It penetrated to the core of my being, and it 335 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.279 was invisible, and it came up out of those woods 336 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:31.599 towards us, like a invisible rolling sound that is so 337 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:38.440 difficult to describe. Now we're beyond fear. We're beyond fear. 338 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:43.200 We're very close to those doors. I'm to the left, 339 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:48.680 I'm to the left of Allison, and she's got she's 340 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.680 reaching for the door handle of those French doors. That 341 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:56.640 sound rolled up on us, And as it rolled up 342 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:00.559 on us, this thought went off in my head incidantly, 343 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:05.920 we're dead and at that very moment, I don't turn. 344 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:11.000 I just can see Alison and she is like a 345 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.319 deer in headlights. And in that very moment, she's not 346 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.000 going to even take the time to open up the door. 347 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:26.960 She is about to bolt through those French glass doors. Something, something, 348 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:33.400 or someone commanded me to command her. Now I used 349 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.559 words that are not my words, but it was my voice, 350 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:43.319 and the voice the language was you will stand in it. 351 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.319 And in that very moment of that insanity coming out 352 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:53.680 of my mouth, she was paralyzed. She never moved. It 353 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.400 was as if she was absolutely paralyzed. And in that 354 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:02.160 very in the same breath as I said to you, 355 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.599 I've got this thought inside of me saying we're dead, 356 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.880 because I knew there was no way to survive whatever 357 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.599 this was. And in that very moment, it was as 358 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.640 if there was an invisible hand above my head had 359 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:21.839 turned off a switch and it just stopped. Now, those 360 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:28.000 dogs never moved, Chad never heard a thing, and there 361 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.680 was no way that this small community could not have 362 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:38.720 heard what was roaring at us, and yet Jacqueline absolutely 363 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:44.640 never moved. It was as if everybody was knocked out 364 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.440 or Alixon and I were absolutely insane in that very 365 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:55.519 moment we created that. Now, if it were not for 366 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.480 the fact of what Chad's father and his adult brother 367 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:04.920 told Chad about, I probably would never have ever told 368 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.519 anybody about this account because I have never seen that 369 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:18.000 I made it from Arizona and Sasquatch didfoot the hairy man, 370 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.160 whatever one calls that is something that's part of the 371 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.359 native lore. I've never questioned it, but I never gave 372 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.519 it a second thought. I just accept that it's part 373 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.400 of the native lore. I've never seen them. I had 374 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:38.319 never encountered them before that I knew of. So again, 375 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:40.720 I would have never come forward this part of the 376 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:44.519 story if it were not that Alison experienced it with me, 377 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.960 and then Chad's father and brother admitted what had happened 378 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.599 to them in that same area. And if you are interested, 379 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.640 I'll have Chad share that with you now, yeah. 380 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:55.039 Please do. 381 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.799 This was this happened before we had moved there. So 382 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:04.519 this was around two thousand, the year two thousand and 383 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.599 we're we're kind of in between. We're a couple of 384 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:16.279 hours from Atlanta. So and Dad did a lot of 385 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.480 flying out, you know, for business and all. So he 386 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.240 instead of leaving Birmingham where he would have to take 387 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.920 three or four planes he would he go to Atlanta. 388 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:32.039 So my brother takes him to Atlanta Airport and so 389 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.240 they had to leave real early. This was a very 390 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:40.480 early flight. This was the sun was, you know, just rising, 391 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:42.680 so they were just able to see a little bit. 392 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:49.519 And they get through Talladega National Forest and they'd see 393 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:50.640 what they thought. 394 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.720 Which is just right next to where Chad and I 395 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.039 lived at the time, right. 396 00:26:54.799 --> 00:27:01.799 They they see what they think is a guy, a hitchhiker, 397 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.279 you know, with the backpack, standing on the side of 398 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:05.920 the road. 399 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.200 And on this side of the rail, yeah, the highway 400 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.079 side of the rail. 401 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.000