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Speaker 5: And welcome to this week's edition of Where Did the
Speaker 5: Road Go? All Right Tonight, we're airing the third part
Speaker 5: of three of the interview with Chad at Alta Dillard,
Speaker 5: and they definitely have some very unusual stories. They classify
Speaker 5: them as high strangeness. I think that's appropriate. Whether you
Speaker 5: believe them or not, well, that's up to you.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I've had a lot of weird experiences myself, and I'm
Speaker 5: not always sure I believe my own experiences. I guess
Speaker 5: John Wood's kind of said it best. We don't know
Speaker 5: because we weren't there, And in the end, you've got
Speaker 5: to choose whether or not to believe the person telling
Speaker 5: you the story, and whether or not you feel their
Speaker 5: perceptions are accurate. I don't believe that Chad and Alta
Speaker 5: are lying. I don't believe they're making this stuff up.
Speaker 5: What the experiences truly consist of, Well, who knows. There's
Speaker 5: so much weird stuff out there. It's really hard to tell.
Speaker 5: Talking to them off air, they seem very grounded, very
Speaker 5: down to earth, despite the strangeness around them. So it's
Speaker 5: up to you to make up your own mind. They're
Speaker 5: just telling their story and I'm giving them a platform
Speaker 5: to do that now. Next week they have something special
Speaker 5: going on. Next week in studio, We're gonna have Rich
Speaker 5: Doland and Peter Robbins and we're just gonna be talking
Speaker 5: probably all things UFOs obviously with the two of them,
Speaker 5: but also they are going to be on what's called
Speaker 5: the Dealer's Choice Show here on WVBR. So that is
Speaker 5: Saturday the thirteenth, and if you want to check that out,
Speaker 5: you can check it out on WVBR dot com. It
Speaker 5: airs at three pm Eastern to five pm, and the
Speaker 5: two of them are going to be here picking their
Speaker 5: favorite music and talking about well really whatever they want
Speaker 5: to talk about. I'll be hosting it, and it's two
Speaker 5: hours of Rich Dolan and Peter Robbins and a lot
Speaker 5: of music and a lot of them outside the normal
Speaker 5: constraints of the UFO talk they're normally on the radio for.
Speaker 5: And then a few hours later of course they'll do
Speaker 5: where the Road Go. In two weeks we have the
Speaker 5: return of Mike Lelland and Aaron Gullias as we do
Speaker 5: Part four of UFO History. Already six Killer is after that.
Speaker 5: This month of June tends to be very UFO heavy.
Speaker 5: It wasn't planned that way, it's just how it worked out.
Speaker 5: I think we're going to do a listeners story episode
Speaker 5: on Live fourth, So if you have any stories you'd
Speaker 5: like to tell, get a hold of me. You can
Speaker 5: do so at the website where didthroadgo dot com. If
Speaker 5: I have too many to run in one show, I'll
Speaker 5: do the I'll do a second part is a midweek podcast.
Speaker 5: After that, we have Rick Strassman in a two part
Speaker 5: interview in July, and then I have a whole host
Speaker 5: of great stuff coming up for the rest of the summer,
Speaker 5: which we will get to when we get to it.
Speaker 5: So for now, Chad and Alta finish telling their story
Speaker 5: of high Strangeness, and yeah, here it is. All right.
Speaker 5: Then we're back again with Chad and Alta, and we're
Speaker 5: gonna start this segment off by letting Luke ask you
Speaker 5: some questions that were on his mind.
Speaker 7: Right Well, I want to ask because I was reading
Speaker 7: through your website and I see that alter you offer
Speaker 7: spiritual guidance and almost as a professional medium, and I
Speaker 7: was wondering, how long have you considered yourself in a medium,
Speaker 7: and then how long have you provided these services.
Speaker 8: As far as dividing the services that began in ninety five,
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety five, after that first encounter that craft that
Speaker 8: China and I tried real hard not to see that
Speaker 8: we couldn't ignore. We left the area of Hammond that
Speaker 8: was a small university town hour or so outside of
Speaker 8: the French Quarter. All of a sudden, Chad and I
Speaker 8: are guided to move to the French Quarter after that encounter.
Speaker 8: And I literally had no intention of ever doing this professionally, ever,
Speaker 8: because the first half of my life, you know, at
Speaker 8: the point we moved to the French Quarter, I'm probably
Speaker 8: in my late thirties by then, thirty six, thirty seven,
Speaker 8: something like that. The abilities, if you will, my mom
Speaker 8: claims I've had all my life, that I was horribly
Speaker 8: embarrassed by it and never saw it as being gifted
Speaker 8: or anything of that nature. My mom would always make
Speaker 8: claims about me that just were very embarrassing for me,
Speaker 8: using words of being a healer and all the common
Speaker 8: language now, and so that again just was never comfortable
Speaker 8: for me to be public about any of that. When
Speaker 8: we moved to the French Quarter, I walked into a
Speaker 8: shop one day just for a job. I was interested
Speaker 8: in selling this man's trinkets and things that he had
Speaker 8: in his shop and he provided he offered readings to
Speaker 8: the public, and literally the minute he met me it
Speaker 8: was again like where's the camera. He seemed to know
Speaker 8: instantly that I don't know how to explain these things
Speaker 8: to you other than just express how it happened to me.
Speaker 8: He literally seemed to know that I had these abilities.
Speaker 8: A woman walked into his shop before he hired me
Speaker 8: to get a reading and asked if anybody was there
Speaker 8: to do so. And this man looked at me and said,
Speaker 8: she's right here, pointed at me, and sent me in
Speaker 8: this room with this woman. I mean, I got picked
Speaker 8: up and thrown in head first, and I could not
Speaker 8: believe the things that I was able to detect and
Speaker 8: what I was able to do with this woman. And
Speaker 8: I tried to fight it for a while, for weeks,
Speaker 8: if you will. I was really struggling with the idea
Speaker 8: of doing anything like this professionally, and yet I realized
Speaker 8: I'm in the city of you know, New Orleans, French
Speaker 8: Quarter in particular. As they said, the people I went
Speaker 8: to work for started their business in nineteen twenty nine,
Speaker 8: So not only were they well established, but they worked
Speaker 8: with every caliber of celebrity sports phenom around the world.
Speaker 8: People came from all over the world to these shops,
Speaker 8: to this reading and so I seemed to be in
Speaker 8: the best of company. I felt that it was the
Speaker 8: safest and it was represented so well that it took
Speaker 8: the embarrassment out of it. And then it became my lifestyle,
Speaker 8: it became my income. I did happen to be the
Speaker 8: only reader that was selected in New Orleans to be
Speaker 8: put in a book about New Orleans by a woman
Speaker 8: that was a journalist with the Washington Post, And so
Speaker 8: I started to reach a state of a little bit
Speaker 8: of celebrity I never asked for, and that started to
Speaker 8: convince me, you know, maybe I was doing something right
Speaker 8: and have just continued since.
Speaker 5: I got you.
Speaker 6: Do you and or Chad consider yourselves religious or spiritual?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 9: Yes, I mean I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church,
Speaker 9: but I had always known that there was, you know,
Speaker 9: more to it than just I don't know what to say, yeah,
Speaker 9: the dogma, you know, and I just found that as
Speaker 9: far as a box church, there was more to it.
Speaker 9: There was more that not in the box. So, you know,
Speaker 9: once we started on our journey, and then of course,
Speaker 9: you know, with our experience, you know, it just kind
Speaker 9: of so I've always yes, I'm very spiritual as far
Speaker 9: as you know, joy, peace and love is my religion.
Speaker 8: And in my case, I'm raised. I was raised by
Speaker 8: a mother who I believe cor world started off in
Speaker 8: the Catholic religion, and I was supposed to that when
Speaker 8: I'm little. I don't have memory of that, but this is,
Speaker 8: of course, you know, what she has told me. And
Speaker 8: then as my memories, as I start to have memory,
Speaker 8: I started exploring different all religions. Basically, I was very
Speaker 8: interested in all religions, and I've spent a great deal
Speaker 8: of my time studying and experiencing and what have you
Speaker 8: to this day. Now, though I have to be quite honest,
Speaker 8: because that's the whole point of coming forward, I don't
Speaker 8: consider myself one who has any longer a belief system. Period.
Speaker 8: I am so open. I feel that I've been so expanded,
Speaker 8: either by my own doing or an outside force, that
Speaker 8: I don't even know how to answer questions like that
Speaker 8: any longer. I feel it's so much bigger than meets
Speaker 8: the eye.
Speaker 6: And as I know, we haven't finished talking about your experiences,
Speaker 6: but I mean, have your experiences with high strangeness affected
Speaker 6: your spirituality or how you look at life with the universe.
Speaker 8: In my case, in particular, as I said, I'm so expanded.
Speaker 8: My brain felt like it exploded time after time after
Speaker 8: time again, and anything I ever thought I knew went
Speaker 8: right out the window. I truly chat and I say
Speaker 8: this often in our twenty five years together. We know nothing,
Speaker 8: and it just feels like that's getting bigger and bigger
Speaker 8: of an understanding is that we know nothing in terms
Speaker 8: of as I said, I don't have a belief system
Speaker 8: any longer. I'm just I truly feel the essence of love.
Speaker 8: To me, love is and it's the most difficult thing
Speaker 8: to put your finger on as you're living in a
Speaker 8: human body experiencing this is what I think is a movie.
Speaker 8: To me, this is all a big movie, and I
Speaker 8: just feel that it's just so much bigger than anybody
Speaker 8: can truly comprehend. It's hard.
Speaker 5: I often feel that the more you truly learned about stuff,
Speaker 5: the more you realize how little you know.
Speaker 8: Absolutely. We just we've made it our mantra constantly. We're
Speaker 8: constantly reminding each other we know nothing.
Speaker 5: Now, do you have anything else for the moment, Luke?
Speaker 6: Not for the moment?
Speaker 5: No, okay, well let's go back to Alabama. Then, well
Speaker 5: we left off last last time, No Alabama.
Speaker 9: So another incident we're having. We'd just gone to bed
Speaker 9: and you know, we had a we had a you know,
Speaker 9: window right on the wall, all right beside our bed,
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, there was this green explosion
Speaker 9: of light, lime green. It was kind of a lime
Speaker 9: kneon green. Now the only thing out that window of wood.
Speaker 9: I mean, there's no houses back there, very rural. Yeah,
Speaker 9: this was clumpy, and we're like, what the heck. So
Speaker 9: we both jump out of bed, you know, because I mean,
Speaker 9: it lit up the room. It was so bright, and
Speaker 9: we run out the out, you know, run out of
Speaker 9: the bedroom and out the back door to see if
Speaker 9: we could see anything. Nothing there, no lights, no people,
Speaker 9: you know, there's you know, nothing in the woods. Just crazy,
Speaker 9: just crazy green flask of light. And I mean it
Speaker 9: was bright.
Speaker 8: We lit up our room and it lit up our
Speaker 8: or it was as Shed's described it, exactly the way
Speaker 8: he described it. And again to this day, no answers
Speaker 8: at all to what in the world that was, So
Speaker 8: it wasn't probably it feels like it was all within
Speaker 8: that same time frame. It happens to be my birthday,
Speaker 8: and I'd like to also mention that we had woods
Speaker 8: behind us. Now years later, some of those woods were
Speaker 8: being taken out and people were moving in back there,
Speaker 8: but while it's still woods. Chad and I had it
Speaker 8: we were buying a split level duplex where the house
Speaker 8: downstairs was almost underground somewhat, and then the house upstairs
Speaker 8: had a big deck built on the back of it.
Speaker 8: So I used to go and sit up on that
Speaker 8: deck during the daytime while Chad was off at work
Speaker 8: and I worked out of the home, and I'd sit
Speaker 8: up on that deck and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 8: started hearing what I call a hoop barker. It was
Speaker 8: an owl or owls that would forget how to owl,
Speaker 8: how to hoot, and turn into bark like dog barking.
Speaker 8: So I'm talking to a girlfriend long distance on the
Speaker 8: phone and she can hear this. I've got the phone
Speaker 8: out saying, can you hear this hoop barker? What in
Speaker 8: you know? What in God's name hoot barker in my
Speaker 8: tricking backyard? And I'm thinking, you know, I thought Alabama
Speaker 8: was different, But that's just going beyond thinking, because this
Speaker 8: hoop barking became an inside joke, but truly started scaring
Speaker 8: the stuff out of me because I knew what I
Speaker 8: was hearing, and I knew that my girlfriends that were
Speaker 8: talking to me on the phone were hearing this. It
Speaker 8: was as if I always needed a witness, and I've
Speaker 8: always had witnesses to these events, these occasions that would
Speaker 8: happen to us. So it's around my birthday in May,
Speaker 8: Jacqueline flew in from out of state from one direction,
Speaker 8: and another girlfriend that we had met in the French
Speaker 8: Quarter that I had worked with even prior to meeting Jacqueline,
Speaker 8: her name Alison. She was living in New York City
Speaker 8: at the time. She flew in from that direction to
Speaker 8: come celebrate my birthday. So Chad gets a boat for
Speaker 8: the day from a guy that he worked with. They
Speaker 8: all blew all friends. They wanted to take us out
Speaker 8: on the lake and spend my birthday out on the
Speaker 8: lake having a birthday party. So we spend all day long, playing,
Speaker 8: eating and drinking and just being merry and having a
Speaker 8: joyous day. Jacqueline. I had never seen Jacqueline drunk. I've
Speaker 8: never seen her not in control. She's not a drama
Speaker 8: clean of any kind. But on this particular day, we'd
Speaker 8: had a lot of fun in the sun, and she
Speaker 8: needed to when we finally got home, she needed to
Speaker 8: lay down and just go to sleep. But I swear
Speaker 8: to you it's felt more to me, almost like she
Speaker 8: was being knocked out. Chad needed to go to bed.
Speaker 8: He didn't drink at all. He was just exhausted from
Speaker 8: putting up at the girls all day long out on
Speaker 8: the lake, and he had a lot of fun too
Speaker 8: that he was exhausted. So Chad goes off into the bedroom.
Speaker 8: Those dogs we spoke about earlier, the big black Great
Speaker 8: Dane and the Roddy Dough they had beds just outside
Speaker 8: of our bedroom door, or so, they're all, it's everybody's
Speaker 8: in bed, but Alison and I. Now, Alison and I
Speaker 8: are sober. I just again feel the need to preface
Speaker 8: that because we had drank that day, but we were
Speaker 8: we've gone out to suffer after, you know, the day
Speaker 8: out on the boat. We'd had a big dinner, so
Speaker 8: every Alison and I were clearly in our heads knew
Speaker 8: exactly what was happening to us. We decided this is
Speaker 8: so out of character. I don't ever remember doing it
Speaker 8: before this, nor do I necessarily remember doing it after this.
Speaker 8: We look at each other and decide we're going to
Speaker 8: go upstairs on the deck and go stargaze, and again,
Speaker 8: very out of character, that's just what we did. We
Speaker 8: trotted upstairs and went through the upstairs house and went
Speaker 8: out on that deck. Before we could get our chairs placed, literally,
Speaker 8: Alison let out a like a joyous glee kind of yelp.
Speaker 8: And I got my attention instantly because it scared me.
Speaker 8: And I look up at her direction. What she's looking
Speaker 8: up in the sky and we saw something moving zigzaggy
Speaker 8: in the sky.
Speaker 9: It looked like a star.
Speaker 8: Doing a dance like zigzagging, you know, and they don't
Speaker 8: do that right, And well, it clearly was not a satellite.
Speaker 8: It happened instantly, but we both saw it. And by
Speaker 8: this time now I turned back around kind of more
Speaker 8: to my right to place my chair and again my
Speaker 8: head is up in the sky and I saw it
Speaker 8: happen as well. It happened a second time. Now, this
Speaker 8: is pretty instantaneous. It lasted a flash. Now if that's
Speaker 8: not strange enough. We look at each other, we hugg
Speaker 8: each other, and we decide, well, that's enough, We're going
Speaker 8: to go to bed now. And I'm thinking as I'm
Speaker 8: repeating this to you. How weird all of this sounds,
Speaker 8: but that's just what happened to us. So rather than
Speaker 8: come back down the stairs through the house like we'd
Speaker 8: gone up originally, we decided to go down the steps
Speaker 8: outside the deck and come back through the backyard. The
Speaker 8: way the house was set up, we had glass doors,
Speaker 8: French doors out into the backyard. In the downstairs house.
Speaker 8: Jacqueline has laid down on a couch that's just a
Speaker 8: few feet away from those doors. Those big dogs I
Speaker 8: speak about are only, if I don't know, twenty feet
Speaker 8: away from Jacqueline and Chad is just around the corner
Speaker 8: in our bedroom with a big window pict your window,
Speaker 8: right next to our bed. Before Jack, before Alison and
Speaker 8: I can get to those French doors, as we're coming
Speaker 8: through the back yome, as I said to you before,
Speaker 8: we've got woods back there with that groupwarker. Literally. Now
Speaker 8: this is where people start to really roll their eyes
Speaker 8: at me. If all the other stuff hasn't sounded strange enough.
Speaker 8: And this is very difficult for me to repeat, but
Speaker 8: this is my absolute truth. Before Alison and I could
Speaker 8: reach those French doors, we start to hear what sounds
Speaker 8: like I call them Sasquatcheese, I call them ghosties. I've
Speaker 8: tried really hard throughout my life to take that scary
Speaker 8: out of what is so scary that it's been hard
Speaker 8: to live with throughout our lives. As we're coming through
Speaker 8: that yard, we hear what sound like what people call
Speaker 8: bigfoot sasquatch whatever, screams, hollers coming out of the woods,
Speaker 8: and it sounds like so many of them. I've always
Speaker 8: sounded like I've exaggerated this story, but I heard thousands
Speaker 8: of collars and screams all at the same time in
Speaker 8: my head. But this sound was palatable, and it was mortifying.
Speaker 8: It penetrated to the core of my being, and it
Speaker 8: was invisible, and it came up out of those woods
Speaker 8: towards us, like a invisible rolling sound that is so
Speaker 8: difficult to describe. Now we're beyond fear. We're beyond fear.
Speaker 8: We're very close to those doors. I'm to the left,
Speaker 8: I'm to the left of Allison, and she's got she's
Speaker 8: reaching for the door handle of those French doors. That
Speaker 8: sound rolled up on us, And as it rolled up
Speaker 8: on us, this thought went off in my head incidantly,
Speaker 8: we're dead and at that very moment, I don't turn.
Speaker 8: I just can see Alison and she is like a
Speaker 8: deer in headlights. And in that very moment, she's not
Speaker 8: going to even take the time to open up the door.
Speaker 8: She is about to bolt through those French glass doors. Something, something,
Speaker 8: or someone commanded me to command her. Now I used
Speaker 8: words that are not my words, but it was my voice,
Speaker 8: and the voice the language was you will stand in it.
Speaker 8: And in that very moment of that insanity coming out
Speaker 8: of my mouth, she was paralyzed. She never moved. It
Speaker 8: was as if she was absolutely paralyzed. And in that
Speaker 8: very in the same breath as I said to you,
Speaker 8: I've got this thought inside of me saying we're dead,
Speaker 8: because I knew there was no way to survive whatever
Speaker 8: this was. And in that very moment, it was as
Speaker 8: if there was an invisible hand above my head had
Speaker 8: turned off a switch and it just stopped. Now, those
Speaker 8: dogs never moved, Chad never heard a thing, and there
Speaker 8: was no way that this small community could not have
Speaker 8: heard what was roaring at us, and yet Jacqueline absolutely
Speaker 8: never moved. It was as if everybody was knocked out
Speaker 8: or Alixon and I were absolutely insane in that very
Speaker 8: moment we created that. Now, if it were not for
Speaker 8: the fact of what Chad's father and his adult brother
Speaker 8: told Chad about, I probably would never have ever told
Speaker 8: anybody about this account because I have never seen that
Speaker 8: I made it from Arizona and Sasquatch didfoot the hairy man,
Speaker 8: whatever one calls that is something that's part of the
Speaker 8: native lore. I've never questioned it, but I never gave
Speaker 8: it a second thought. I just accept that it's part
Speaker 8: of the native lore. I've never seen them. I had
Speaker 8: never encountered them before that I knew of. So again,
Speaker 8: I would have never come forward this part of the
Speaker 8: story if it were not that Alison experienced it with me,
Speaker 8: and then Chad's father and brother admitted what had happened
Speaker 8: to them in that same area. And if you are interested,
Speaker 8: I'll have Chad share that with you now, yeah.
Speaker 5: Please do.
Speaker 9: This was this happened before we had moved there. So
Speaker 9: this was around two thousand, the year two thousand and
Speaker 9: we're we're kind of in between. We're a couple of
Speaker 9: hours from Atlanta. So and Dad did a lot of
Speaker 9: flying out, you know, for business and all. So he
Speaker 9: instead of leaving Birmingham where he would have to take
Speaker 9: three or four planes he would he go to Atlanta.
Speaker 9: So my brother takes him to Atlanta Airport and so
Speaker 9: they had to leave real early. This was a very
Speaker 9: early flight. This was the sun was, you know, just rising,
Speaker 9: so they were just able to see a little bit.
Speaker 9: And they get through Talladega National Forest and they'd see
Speaker 9: what they thought.
Speaker 8: Which is just right next to where Chad and I
Speaker 8: lived at the time, right.
Speaker 9: They they see what they think is a guy, a hitchhiker,
Speaker 9: you know, with the backpack, standing on the side of
Speaker 9: the road.
Speaker 8: And on this side of the rail, yeah, the highway
Speaker 8: side of the rail.
Speaker 9: He They get a little closer and they said this
Speaker 9: u They said, it's about eight nine foot tall and hairy,
Speaker 9: completely covered in hair. They said, as they pass it,
Speaker 9: it kind of shifts, you know, kind of pivots to
Speaker 9: turn towards the woods and watches them, you know, kind
Speaker 9: of turns his head and looks at them right in
Speaker 9: the eye. He said that it takes three or four
Speaker 9: steps and is out of the off the median into
Speaker 9: the highway. Yeah, he said. They just kind of looked
Speaker 9: at each other and just kept going.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 9: And from what I hear that is, it's a pretty
Speaker 9: hot spot for seeing sasquatch or book bigfoot around that area.
Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like Alter's experience. However, it might have
Speaker 5: been in a slightly altered state of consciousness, potentially too.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, as I said, I'd never even have ever brought
Speaker 8: this story forward if I'd not learned about Chad's father
Speaker 8: and brother, because I worked so hard, I've worked so
Speaker 8: hard in the past to convince myself I'm crazy when
Speaker 8: I know I'm not. And you know, it's a survivability
Speaker 8: and whatever it takes. And I have no idea because
Speaker 8: I have reached out to many of the so called experts,
Speaker 8: whatever that means in any of these fields. But I'm
Speaker 8: particularly in the field of sasquatch, bigfoot, what have you,
Speaker 8: and they're just clue us as to how to respond
Speaker 8: to me. They don't so well.
Speaker 5: There seem to be two very segregated fields of bigfoot research,
Speaker 5: those who believe it's a flesh and blood monster and
Speaker 5: those who believe it's a paranormal apparition. So I would
Speaker 5: think the flesh and blood people would really not be
Speaker 5: interested in your story at all.
Speaker 8: You Actually, I haven't found too many people interested in
Speaker 8: that at all. And what I found interesting is what
Speaker 8: seems to get missed oftentimes in repeating this portion of
Speaker 8: what's happening to us is the fact that Allison and
Speaker 8: I clearly saw strangeness in the sky just prior to
Speaker 8: this happening. Right, It's only been recent in the last
Speaker 8: few years people were talking about UFOs and Bigfoot, and
Speaker 8: you know this again, even in that camp, I've never
Speaker 8: been able to get anybody to communicate with over any
Speaker 8: of this.
Speaker 5: Huh, Well, the Bigfoot UFO connection actually goes back quite
Speaker 5: a bit. It's just only become popular in the last
Speaker 5: a handful of years because John Keele wrote about it
Speaker 5: early on and such, Right, it just kind of got
Speaker 5: ignored for the most part.
Speaker 1: Right A Cast Classics Sweet Bobby investigates Karata and Bobby,
Speaker 1: who have an unusual relationship. The romance might play it online,
Speaker 1: but in many ways it's a traditional love story until
Speaker 1: Kirat discovers the disturbing truth.
Speaker 2: That kind of reinforced the fact that I was right.
Speaker 5: I'd court him.
Speaker 2: Returned.
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Speaker 5: So all right, so moving on from there. How long
Speaker 5: did you stay in Alabama?
Speaker 9: Well, we were there until in twenty twelve we decided
Speaker 9: that we've had enough of Alabama and we decided to
Speaker 9: sell the white picket fence and give up our worldly
Speaker 9: possessions and we bought us a motor home. And now
Speaker 9: we kind of travel around doing different types of shows, paranormal, metaphysical,
Speaker 9: part art craft shows with Alta's abilities and the shawls
Speaker 9: that we create. And when we decided to get the
Speaker 9: motor home, I kind of shopped around online and found
Speaker 9: a motor home and come to find out, I find one,
Speaker 9: and it's in Hammond, Louisiana, and it's a nineteen ninety
Speaker 9: five model. So it was just really crazy that, you know,
Speaker 9: it was in ham and that's where we saw our
Speaker 9: show our craft in ninety five, in ham in Louisiana.
Speaker 8: And if it's not strange enough. As his partner, why
Speaker 8: I never question him over this. I find myself just
Speaker 8: tagging along, kind of like he did with me when
Speaker 8: I'm dragging him off to New Mexico. Without question. We're
Speaker 8: driving leaving Alabama to go pick the home up in
Speaker 8: ham and Louisiana we've got to drive through Mississippi and
Speaker 8: it's I'll never forget this. Somewhere around two in the afternoon,
Speaker 8: and there's another craft ufhoe in broad daylight in the
Speaker 8: sky off to the left and above us. Now Chad
Speaker 8: has got to keep his eyes on the highway obvious,
Speaker 8: so he's driving on passenger. But unlike the account that
Speaker 8: we've given about when we saw that first craft that
Speaker 8: I didn't see in ninety five because I was in
Speaker 8: shock and turned my head, this time, I'm looking and
Speaker 8: I'm not blinking, and I'm absolutely studying what's up there.
Speaker 8: And what I saw was a two or three story
Speaker 8: shaped building hovering. I never saw it move. There was
Speaker 8: no sound. Obviously, this was quite a ways up in
Speaker 8: the sky, and it was in the shape of what
Speaker 8: looked like a two or three story building. It didn't
Speaker 8: lily away, it didn't just disappear. It was as if
Speaker 8: the sky folded in around it and then it wasn't
Speaker 8: there anymore.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's what I saw. I saw it fold
Speaker 9: in or wink out. You know, it was just like it.
Speaker 9: And you know, just like Alta said, the sky just
Speaker 9: kind of closed around it, or it just kind of
Speaker 9: and and that's what I saw. And you know, I
Speaker 9: wasn't gonna say anything. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 9: I noticed that Alta was looking at this. I'm like,
Speaker 9: did you see something like Jess, I've been watching it.
Speaker 8: I didn't.
Speaker 9: I just wasn't gonna say anything, you know, because I
Speaker 9: didn't look.
Speaker 8: I didn't want to run off the road. It was like, Oh, no,
Speaker 8: this isn't really happening. Oh my god, this is really happening.
Speaker 5: Like you didn't You didn't get a chance to try
Speaker 5: and take a picture, though, did you.
Speaker 9: No, We we had no camera anything like that. This
Speaker 9: was before my micphone. This was when I still had money, when.
Speaker 8: He had his little flip phone. But yeah, and we
Speaker 8: just never have been in the past camera people, even
Speaker 8: with all of these crazy encounters. I'm real sorry about
Speaker 8: it now, but.
Speaker 5: You had included a couple of pictures that you sent
Speaker 5: me that were labeled white sands. Now what was that about?
Speaker 8: So that kind of goes back to this whole what
Speaker 8: I call high strengtheness is moving to New Mexico and
Speaker 8: having that bizarreness happened to us that area that we
Speaker 8: landed at, Madrid and Sirios and what have you felt
Speaker 8: extremely familiar to me from my childhood, and those pictures
Speaker 8: that you have are when I'm probably I think I'm
Speaker 8: fourteen with my best friend. At the time, we lived
Speaker 8: in Iowa. My stepfather was still alive. He passed when
Speaker 8: I was fifteen. He had cancer. His mother lived in Arizona,
Speaker 8: so they had him and my mother had decided to
Speaker 8: drive for summer vacation to drive to Arizona, you know,
Speaker 8: because he really knew he was in his last stages
Speaker 8: to go see his mom. So we invited my best
Speaker 8: friend to go along. And when we got to White Fans,
Speaker 8: she was a year younger than I am, we literally
Speaker 8: jumped out of the car and something told me to
Speaker 8: write our names in those dunes. And that's some of
Speaker 8: the pictures that we sent you, just because there was
Speaker 8: familiarity that forty years later, or thirty years later, thirty
Speaker 8: five years later, I find myself back up into that
Speaker 8: part of the world again that I had experienced when
Speaker 8: I was very young as a teenager.
Speaker 5: I see, okay, all right, now, did anything but between
Speaker 5: the Sasquatch encounter in Alabama and the Mississippi UFO siting,
Speaker 5: did anything else really stand out happen.
Speaker 8: So while we still have that home with that backyard
Speaker 8: and those hoot barkers in the woods. One night, lucky
Speaker 8: Me seems to be me instead of Chad. I'm taken
Speaker 8: out of bed. We've gone to bed, just like normal,
Speaker 8: watch television till we fall asleep. And next thing I know,
Speaker 8: you know, I clearly remember going to sleep, And the
Speaker 8: next thing I know, I'm now standing in my backyard
Speaker 8: and this is all lucid. I'm looking around my backyard saying,
Speaker 8: what the hell am I doing out here? I'm not
Speaker 8: a sleepwalker, never have been noted ever in my life
Speaker 8: as sleepwalk. As I'm trying to get my thoughts together,
Speaker 8: like what am I doing here? There's something short next
Speaker 8: to me. And when I say short, about the size
Speaker 8: of a cousin it If you know who I'm talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know Old Adam's family, So you can tell I'm
Speaker 8: telling my age. Before I can get foc upon what
Speaker 8: this cousin it shaped person being thing whatever this is
Speaker 8: standing next to me, my attention is immediately pulled up
Speaker 8: into the sky and my head, you know, like snaps
Speaker 8: back because up above me and somewhat to the left
Speaker 8: in the heavens is this female voice that is so
Speaker 8: beautiful that she's speaking. I have no idea what she's saying.
Speaker 8: And I have to tell you, I was just so
Speaker 8: amazed by this voice that I was kind of lost
Speaker 8: my thought about what am I doing back here in
Speaker 8: the same almost in the same moment of me falling
Speaker 8: into that voice. And that's the only way I know
Speaker 8: how to describe it.
Speaker 9: It was just so beautiful.
Speaker 8: It was plodding, and it was just beautiful above my
Speaker 8: head and to the right now is the opposite. It's
Speaker 8: a male voice, and he is booming angry, sounding at
Speaker 8: me like a like an angry father. And I remember
Speaker 8: my knee started knocking. It scared me so bad because
Speaker 8: I knew I was in trouble. And I again, there's
Speaker 8: no logic anything I'm saying to you, It's just how I'm.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 8: So this angry father, bobbing voice in just matter of
Speaker 8: fact language called me by name. He literally said my name,
Speaker 8: and his words were out to don't bother being afraid.
Speaker 8: Only it wasn't that polite. It was angry, founding. And
Speaker 8: in that very moment, as I'm hearing the last of
Speaker 8: that statement, my left wrist exploded in light. It was,
Speaker 8: as I've said before, like a light bomb went off
Speaker 8: in my wrist. And then the next thing I know,
Speaker 8: it's the next morning. I'm back in bed with Chad.
Speaker 8: I wake him up and I say, Chad, I have
Speaker 8: another object now in my wrist, and needless to say,
Speaker 8: I do. That was discovered by ultrasound, also in that
Speaker 8: same location again in the same timeframe. This would be
Speaker 8: like two thousand and three four. This is just prior
Speaker 8: to Katrina in two thousand and five. I'm once again
Speaker 8: Chad and I are together. It's morning time. It's a
Speaker 8: beautiful more. We had landscaped our backyard. We'd planted willow trees,
Speaker 8: and we used to have an alligator and she had
Speaker 8: a pet turtle, and so they had to have their
Speaker 8: own space. So Chad built a small little pond in
Speaker 8: our backyard. And we're sitting out there, well, he's actually
Speaker 8: sitting in a lawn chair right next to those crazy
Speaker 8: French doors I spoke about earlier. We're having coffee. I'm
Speaker 8: standing in those French doors, got the doors open, and
Speaker 8: I'm standing in the doorway and we're just so enjoying
Speaker 8: this morning. And next thing I know, or next thing.
Speaker 8: Chad knows. I let out a scream, a girls scream
Speaker 8: like I don't ever remember doing before. Something hurts so
Speaker 8: bad on my left foot that it made me scream.
Speaker 8: Chad flew up out of the chair. Coffee's flying. I'm
Speaker 8: expecting to see blood everywhere with the pain that I felt.
Speaker 8: Have that photo also, uh, literally, some invisible something excised
Speaker 8: a pyramid shape out of the top of my left foot.
Speaker 8: There was no blood, there was no We took that
Speaker 8: picture instantly. Now that's the one time we had a
Speaker 8: camera close enough and I said, Yad, start photographing, So
Speaker 8: he took that picture instantly, and you'll see there's no blood,
Speaker 8: there's no redness, there's no nothing. But I felt that
Speaker 8: pain of that being excised out of my foot.
Speaker 9: What that she had been strung by like a lot
Speaker 9: or something was you know, huh, I'm sorry. We had
Speaker 9: sent a lot of or some of the other pictures
Speaker 9: with little scratches and scrapes that those were happening around
Speaker 9: that same time too. And again no blood in the
Speaker 9: in the bed. You know, she would wake up with
Speaker 9: little dots and you know, little cut and you know
Speaker 9: it looked like they'd been one of those cuts.
Speaker 8: It looks like it had been cartiized on both ends,
Speaker 8: like you know, there should have been all kinds of
Speaker 8: blood whatever. And again there was never pain involved with
Speaker 8: any of that. No blood, no pain, no awareness of it.
Speaker 8: With the exception of that excised pyramid out of my foot.
Speaker 5: Huh okay, And there was there was nothing else going
Speaker 5: on around that time period, was there like when that
Speaker 5: that pyramid was excised out of your foot?
Speaker 8: No, it was a beautiful other than the hoop barker
Speaker 8: in the you know woods, I mean normally there was.
Speaker 8: It was just a perfect morning I think, as normal
Speaker 8: as whatever normal means we were having when that happened.
Speaker 8: It's like it's not allowed for us.
Speaker 5: Anything. You want to ask, Luke, have any.
Speaker 6: Of your experiences been reoccurring.
Speaker 8: In I'm sorry in what regards Luke?
Speaker 6: I mean, are you sure thought that you have some
Speaker 6: of the same or similar experiences, or that some of
Speaker 6: your experiences have connections to other experiences you have.
Speaker 8: Well, again, I've got two very distinct objects in my
Speaker 8: arm that happened in two separate occasions. You know. This
Speaker 8: first object, as I said, would not allow X ray
Speaker 8: until I begged for something out there to help me,
Speaker 8: and it allowed the picture. The second object in my
Speaker 8: risk refuses an X ray completely that was only detected
Speaker 8: by ultrasound. I had a personal friend who had just
Speaker 8: graduated from ultrasound school and she had a portal machine
Speaker 8: and she was in my neighborhood and called me up
Speaker 8: just out of the clear blue. I mean she lived
Speaker 8: in Huntsville, which was a couple hours away, so it
Speaker 8: was just weird that she was in my area. She
Speaker 8: called up and said, you know, We're just going to
Speaker 8: take a look out. And I felt inside myself that
Speaker 8: she just thought I was a lack of dude, and
Speaker 8: she was, you know, some see for herself. Nobody's ever
Speaker 8: had the nerve to call us liars to our face,
Speaker 8: and so that was my senses is that she just
Speaker 8: needed to check me out for herself, and she never
Speaker 8: expected what she discovered. When she got to my house,
Speaker 8: she just pretty much ordered me to lay down on
Speaker 8: the couch and give me her give her my wrist.
Speaker 8: She began to alter sound my wrist and I heard her.
Speaker 8: I wasn't looking because I'm like, I know what I'm
Speaker 8: going through, and she kind of gasped, and you just
Speaker 8: don't ever want to hear that when you're having one
Speaker 8: experience out there another. And she set outa I couldn't
Speaker 8: write a report for this if I wanted to for
Speaker 8: a doctor, she said, whatever or whoever placed it there
Speaker 8: it she said, they placed it where it's there because
Speaker 8: I can see it, but it won't cast a shadow.
Speaker 8: That's impossible. And I'm like, well, welcome to my world.
Speaker 5: But have you ever had like a second experience, like
Speaker 5: with the Sasquatch or another black eyed adult or anything,
Speaker 5: or these experiences very different from each other as they occur.
Speaker 8: So the Sasquatch, Chad and I both experienced together. I'll
Speaker 8: have Chad share with you what happened to us in
Speaker 8: regards to that.
Speaker 9: This is again when we first go out on our
Speaker 9: adventure in our in our.
Speaker 8: Our little hot speed end that we call our love Shock,
Speaker 8: our little motor home.
Speaker 9: And this was I guess twenty thirteen by this time.
Speaker 9: And we sign up to do a ghost festival festival
Speaker 9: and it's.
Speaker 8: In small town, Ohio, Longtown.
Speaker 9: Ohio, right around Port Smith or something. Anyway I find this.
Speaker 9: I find there's a place that's, you know, pretty close
Speaker 9: to our venue.
Speaker 8: And to park.
Speaker 9: The motorhome and we start going up this mountain and
Speaker 9: we're like, and I'm new at diving this thing, you know,
Speaker 9: and I were pulling our little jeep behind it. So
Speaker 9: we make it up there and get set up and everything,
Speaker 9: and of course we've got new dogs now, so I
Speaker 9: get the dogs out, and you know, it's starting to
Speaker 9: get dark at just by this time.
Speaker 8: It's a small, privately owned, little motor home park, very small,
Speaker 8: surrounded in woods at the top of this mountain.
Speaker 9: Yeah, lots of woods. So I get the girls down
Speaker 9: the leash, and you know, we walk up the dirt road,
Speaker 9: you know, a half a mile or so. And as
Speaker 9: we walked back we get I get, you know, ten
Speaker 9: foot from our motor coach and hear this what I
Speaker 9: call a grunt snort and I mean it and I
Speaker 9: was like, and I mean the dogs stopped, their ears
Speaker 9: went up, and you know, we all the dogs looked
Speaker 9: at me, and we're like, okay, you know, and we
Speaker 9: got you know, but we get in and we're and
Speaker 9: Chad's a.
Speaker 8: Country boy, he knows, he knows country critters ever.
Speaker 9: Got a beer. This was not a fair. This was
Speaker 9: you know, this was something else different, you know, something
Speaker 9: I'd never heard, and I mean dogs, I didn't even
Speaker 9: want to look and see what it was.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: We running the house, and I get him off their
Speaker 9: lease and I'm like, out, something gets punts.
Speaker 8: In order to us, you know, scared, and the dogs
Speaker 8: are scared.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 9: She's like, big, it's sasquatchy.
Speaker 8: It's sasquatchy.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, whatever it was, it grint storted at it,
Speaker 9: you know. So, and we we had just cooked hot
Speaker 9: dogs and reccaroni and cheese, you know, her little food
Speaker 9: and stuff. So she's like, oh, we got to make
Speaker 9: him a plate. We got to make him a plate.
Speaker 8: We've got to do an offering.
Speaker 9: We got to do an off you know. So she
Speaker 9: makes him a hot dog and some cheetos and recory
Speaker 9: and cheese, loaded the plate up. Yeah, and we've got
Speaker 9: these little cinnamon jelly with the sugar on it, you know,
Speaker 9: and puts it on the plate. So I take it
Speaker 9: outside on a thin paper plate, thin paper plate. Death.
Speaker 9: And so I was like, okay, now go put it
Speaker 9: outside the I'm like what so anyway, I you know,
Speaker 9: may be marin, you know. I go out and there's
Speaker 9: this log or this old tree that had fallen right out.
Speaker 8: I mean it was like right out of our bedroom ten.
Speaker 9: Foot you know, this was ten foot out out of
Speaker 9: our bedroom window, you know, right out back behind. So
Speaker 9: I go and I said it, And I said it
Speaker 9: when you know, if something you know, came up that
Speaker 9: it would fall very easily, you know, if it wasn't intelligent.
Speaker 9: So I get in and you know, I was like
Speaker 9: should Yeah, I said it. But before I could even
Speaker 9: open my eyes the next morning, before I could turn
Speaker 9: the coffee pot on. Before, like I said, before I
Speaker 9: could even open my eyes next morning, I was just like,
Speaker 9: go check the plate, Go check the plane. Okay, okay.
Speaker 9: So I get out and I go out, and this
Speaker 9: plate is still sitting on that log, balance on that
Speaker 9: round log. Everything is off that plate except those little
Speaker 9: cinnamon jellies. There is no scratches, there's no straight there's
Speaker 9: there's no prominence, there's no perumb scattered. You know, if
Speaker 9: it was a dog or a coon or something like that,
Speaker 9: you know, it would the plate would be on the ground.
Speaker 9: And I mean there was nothing like.
Speaker 8: It didn't lick clean, but the little cinnamon jelly except.
Speaker 9: Those cinnamon jelly, you know, everything.
Speaker 8: Is gone perfectly so I'm convinced they're here.
Speaker 9: They're here, and so then so we uh we go
Speaker 9: up and we start talking to the owners of the
Speaker 9: prod property and this country girl, I mean she she
Speaker 9: had been on that property all of her life. She's
Speaker 9: in her fifty her and her husband. Her husband's of
Speaker 9: UHUD Guard, you know, they you know, of the earth
Speaker 9: off to the earth, you know. So we go up
Speaker 9: there and tell them, you know, why we're there and
Speaker 9: all this, and they're like, well, you know, the uh
Speaker 9: Bigfoot hunters were here just last month, uh and they
Speaker 9: stocked in and with with the film crew and all.
Speaker 8: And we're like, no, we didn't know.
Speaker 9: And I'm like no, So we tell them, you know
Speaker 9: what we heard. She goes, you know, I've lived here
Speaker 9: all of my life. I'm not scared of nothing. I know.
Speaker 9: She's an Ohio mountain top girl. She said, you know,
Speaker 9: my husband had the ninth shift and one of my
Speaker 9: girlfriends came to stay with me. She said, we were
Speaker 9: out in the backyard, you know, and had our little
Speaker 9: campfire and we were just having our little martini or
Speaker 9: glass of wine, and she said, all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: we could hear something out of the woods. And I
Speaker 9: felt something watching us. She said, I'm not scared of nothing.
Speaker 9: She said that that creepd me. How she said, hide,
Speaker 9: got the willie and we went in the house. She said,
Speaker 9: so you know there's something up under up here.
Speaker 8: So then not long after this, Chad and I would
Speaker 8: walk the girls the dogs down this old paved road
Speaker 8: out of this little park again on top of this mountain,
Speaker 8: with woods flanking us on both sides. And I'm talking wood,
Speaker 8: but those woods. This was the time of year where
Speaker 8: it was pretty smart as far as buliage and whatever,
Speaker 8: and you could see somewhat in between trees. And as
Speaker 8: we're walking this particular day, it's daylight, and we walked
Speaker 8: longer than normal, we'd turn around and as we're coming back,
Speaker 8: we could actually hear chattered. Now that's the onely way
Speaker 8: to describe it. It sounded like female voices, but it
Speaker 8: was no language that could be understood, and it was.
Speaker 8: And then it also sounded like there was young with
Speaker 8: these older female sounding voices, like there was young with
Speaker 8: them as well, like children most but again invisible, moving
Speaker 8: along with us. And I would say, Ched, can you
Speaker 8: hear that?
Speaker 5: Do you hear that?
Speaker 8: And of course he would respond with yes, he could
Speaker 8: hear this, and this seemed to follow us as we're
Speaker 8: coming back into that part.
Speaker 9: So again the dogs would stop, their ears would go up.
Speaker 9: They were not barking or anything, you know like that.
Speaker 9: They were very.
Speaker 8: Tuned into it and staying very close to us. And
Speaker 8: we've you know, one of the dogs, one of them
Speaker 8: is the Australian Red Healer and the other one's Australian
Speaker 8: Shepherd mixed. So we're not talking little Pomeranians. These are
Speaker 8: dogs that they're just their reactions in itself told us Volumes.
Speaker 5: Hmm, So what's what What is the most recent thing
Speaker 5: that's happened to you.
Speaker 8: Besides some of the most unusual humans we're meeting out
Speaker 8: here on We traveled the Ohio Valley and it's quite
Speaker 8: interesting just the human aspect of being out on the
Speaker 8: road and this type of Chad has Chad's thought of some.
Speaker 9: Okay, so here's our most recent weird thing. We our
Speaker 9: last show last last fall early winter was November, end
Speaker 9: of November. Yes, and you know, like I said earlier,
Speaker 9: we do these shawls, so I'm out and we had
Speaker 9: this particular place park that we stay at in Cincinnati,
Speaker 9: Big State. Yeah, big beautiful park. And you know this
Speaker 9: is with our RV and Chad's the tailor.
Speaker 8: He's the sewer of these honor shaws that we create,
Speaker 8: and I do the fringing and the design. We do
Speaker 8: this together, but he actually does the cutting and the
Speaker 8: sewing of the fabric.
Speaker 9: So I take our my fabric and get it out
Speaker 9: on the picnic table and I'm, you know, just kind
Speaker 9: of and we're the only people there in the park.
Speaker 9: There's a few people up in the front for the
Speaker 9: night or two, but for the most part we are
Speaker 9: the only ones in the park.
Speaker 8: So we go and a blizzard.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that one of the nice days, you know,
Speaker 9: I'm out there on the picnic table and I'm straightening
Speaker 9: up the fabric and cutting the fabric and I would
Speaker 9: take the little remnants and put it over in the
Speaker 9: fire pit, thinking that, you know, one day we'll build
Speaker 9: a fire. One evening, we'll build a fire and it'll
Speaker 9: you know, we'll burn it away. Well, you know, blizzard hit.
Speaker 9: It's all that we didn't. We never built a fire.
Speaker 9: So we we're back in Cincinnati two.
Speaker 8: Weeks ago and been there since last November.
Speaker 9: I hadn't been back in flast November, I called and
Speaker 9: I requested that same spot because you know, it's kind
Speaker 9: of out of the ways, you know, back in the corner,
Speaker 9: so I wanted that same spot. Well, it wasn't available,
Speaker 9: so I said, okay, well, I think I've stayed in
Speaker 9: fifty seven. Let me have fifty seven. So I get
Speaker 9: over there.
Speaker 8: Which is a long way away from where our original
Speaker 8: spot was.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's like twenty four or something like that,
Speaker 9: you know, quite a way. So we get around and
Speaker 9: we back in, get set up, I go get the
Speaker 9: girls out, you know, to use the bathroom, and I
Speaker 9: walk over and there's a big lake right there in
Speaker 9: this park. And I walk over to the side of
Speaker 9: the lake and there those remnants from the fabric that
Speaker 9: i'd cut. Now this was just two weeks ago. I'd
Speaker 9: just I cut these remnants back in November, and they're
Speaker 9: in this spot.
Speaker 8: And put them in the fire pit, and something has
Speaker 8: removed them and they're they're not in the water, they're
Speaker 8: not wet. It didn't float there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were wrapped around the little bush back behind
Speaker 9: the spot that I just picked out of you know, well,
Speaker 9: I think we had stayed there, you.
Speaker 5: Know, huh, all right, that's definitely fitting I think before
Speaker 5: and any thoughts, Luke.
Speaker 6: Uh, just that I mean with all the random experiences. Again,
Speaker 6: you two seem to have never a dull moment. Maybe
Speaker 6: that's a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 5: Such God. Oh, I thought you were trying to say,
Speaker 5: saying chat, I'm sorry. So are you working on a
Speaker 5: book about these experiences?
Speaker 8: Thank you for asking. We are. In fact, we have
Speaker 8: a whole team lined up to assist us in getting
Speaker 8: the book ghost written and edited and even and a
Speaker 8: printer involved. It's just a matter of money, as they say.
Speaker 8: So we have discovered truth Funders, and I don't know
Speaker 8: if you're aware of who they are, but they are
Speaker 8: fairly new I understand. Mark Schwartz is the CEO of
Speaker 8: truth Funders, and they actually have a radio show as well.
Speaker 8: They had us on last night, they'll have us on
Speaker 8: again next Wednesday to present our project and a crowdfunding
Speaker 8: of sorts with the exception of this is specifically engaged
Speaker 8: and created for the purpose of paranormal and involving anybody
Speaker 8: interested in the world of paranormal who have projects, books, documentaries, movies,
Speaker 8: wearable art, come to things. So we finally submitted our request,
Speaker 8: and they have accepted our request and are working very
Speaker 8: hard to assist us and getting a project put together
Speaker 8: online where where we can I pray some days sooner
Speaker 8: than later finally get this book done. We never intended
Speaker 8: from the beginning to ever write a book about anything,
Speaker 8: and yet over the years that we've been doing radio interviews,
Speaker 8: because we've been interviewing now I think since about twenty eleven,
Speaker 8: I started off specifically just trying to get help, just
Speaker 8: trying to find help, and that just never seemed to
Speaker 8: pan out for Chad and I. And so finally, after
Speaker 8: doing a show a few years back, the host convinced
Speaker 8: us that it was a good idea to follow through
Speaker 8: with trying to get this recorded a book, and so
Speaker 8: it became it's become very important to Chad and I
Speaker 8: to try to get this acomplished, but again, a lot
Speaker 8: of money to get a book written.
Speaker 5: The thing about it is by sharing your experiences, anyone
Speaker 5: else having similar experiences at least might find your book
Speaker 5: and not feel so completely isolated by them.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, we discovered early on by coming forward and staying public,
Speaker 8: that we've had folks who have reached out to us.
Speaker 8: I've learned of suicides over this. I've learned of just
Speaker 8: horrendous happenings to folks out there that have nowhere to turn,
Speaker 8: or they're too afraid, or because of family pressure, so
Speaker 8: on and so forth. Jobs of course, Chad and I've
Speaker 8: never had children. It's just him and I. We've pretty
Speaker 8: much given up whatever a normal world is we've walked
Speaker 8: away from. We are so honored and privileged to have
Speaker 8: our opportunities such as what you're you know, affording us, Soriah.
Speaker 9: We're just so grateful.
Speaker 8: And so we can see now really the importance of
Speaker 8: the book. There's much, strangely enough, that we've still never
Speaker 8: spoke about publicly that we'll only be learned about with
Speaker 8: the book. And so there's a whole another section of
Speaker 8: our life that we've never been public about, and it's
Speaker 8: just more than time now for that all to be recorded.
Speaker 8: And we pray it's, you know, for the purpose, not
Speaker 8: only for our own benefit, for him and I, but
Speaker 8: for anybody out there who has nowhere to turn right right?
Speaker 5: Okay? Is there anything else people should know? Luke? Do
Speaker 5: you have any questions before we finish this?
Speaker 6: I don't think so?
Speaker 5: Okay, anything else people should know Chad Alter, well, you.
Speaker 9: Know, just that, you know, if anybody does want to
Speaker 9: reach out and touch us uh or talk to us,
Speaker 9: you can find us on me on Facebook after this
Speaker 9: not have Facebook, but Chad Dillard on Facebook. Alta's website
Speaker 9: is Readings with Alta dot Com. You can also find
Speaker 9: us under Unique Rabbit, Shawls and Gifts on Facebook. And
Speaker 9: that's spelled you dash in E E K rabbit r
Speaker 9: A B B I T is in the critters. No
Speaker 9: critters or no rabbits were harmed in the making of
Speaker 9: our shawls.
Speaker 8: Well we we we use no critters in the making
Speaker 8: of our shall right, you know, so we we we
Speaker 8: enjoy uh talking and sharing our experiences and we love
Speaker 8: to hear from folks if they're interested in as Chef said,
Speaker 8: reaching out again sorayah. We can't even begin to thank
Speaker 8: you enough. And Luke, thank you so much for even
Speaker 8: having interest in what happening with us.
Speaker 6: You're problem.
Speaker 5: It is very interesting, all right, Thank you, Chad, Thank
Speaker 5: you Alta, and we look forward to your book when
Speaker 5: it finally gets published.
Speaker 8: Absolutely you'll be one of the first to.
Speaker 5: Receive awesome all right. And that was the third of
Speaker 5: three interviews with Chad and Alta Dillard Louke. What did
Speaker 5: you think overall about these experiences?
Speaker 6: Well, I find that I mean, they are as random
Speaker 6: as they could be for them. As I said before,
Speaker 6: there doesn't seem to be a single theme or you know,
Speaker 6: some common characters or narrative that they're following. Yeah, situations
Speaker 6: just seem to happen to them and are part of
Speaker 6: their reality.
Speaker 5: And they seem very down to earth about it. They're
Speaker 5: not throwing out wild speculation. They're just kind of telling
Speaker 5: us what's going on, right, It's.
Speaker 6: Just what happens in their life, see on a daily basis.
Speaker 5: Damn close. I mean, I know I've had enough weird
Speaker 5: things myself where they also haven't repeated, but not to
Speaker 5: the degree that these people have had. Because a lot
Speaker 5: of times with UFO abduction type encounters, you see that
Speaker 5: pattern repeat over and over, and even if there's other
Speaker 5: stuff mixed in, which there usually is, it doesn't overshadow
Speaker 5: the recurrent abduction theme. In this case, that recurrence isn't there, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, they may have multiple encounters that involve a
Speaker 6: UFO of some kind, but unlike as you said, people
Speaker 6: who have abduction experiences. It's not a sense of the
Speaker 6: same thing happening over and over again over time, or
Speaker 6: that there's really any narrative to what's happening to them.
Speaker 6: I mean they're the opposite of skeptics, who has nothing
Speaker 6: happened to them. I mean they have every legend, myth
Speaker 6: and conspiracy theory mixed in during the same encounters, and
Speaker 6: it's very interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And aside from that that one encounter, they're not
Speaker 5: using hypnotic regression to recover these memories, and Alta remembered
Speaker 5: even that one. It was just Chad who used the
Speaker 5: regression for that first big encounter, so it can't be
Speaker 5: blamed on imaginative you know, imaginative type stuff happening during hypnosis.
Speaker 6: I mean, their experiences would probably be easier explained if
Speaker 6: they were.
Speaker 5: Drug Yes, that's they would. That would be an awful
Speaker 5: lot of drugs over the years. And honestly, I think
Speaker 5: most drugged experiences aren't as unique or interesting as the
Speaker 5: stuff they're talking about.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think it would be so all.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that is the end of that three set
Speaker 5: of interviews, and I thank you Luke for helping out
Speaker 5: with those, and we will be back next week as a.
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