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<v Speaker 1>Caalarogus, Shark Media Boom. Johnny Mack with your Daily Comedy News.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jeffries rejects the suggestion that he hates women. Jim says,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I'm a misogynist. No, but that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably what a misogynist would say. I'd rather this

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<v Speaker 1>be part of an interview. This was with Rolling Stone Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand, when people could actually hear me talk then

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<v Speaker 1>read what I'm saying, or have some idiot in a

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<v Speaker 1>basement recording a podcast read the words from a transcript

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<v Speaker 1>from what Jim actually said. Why would we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's dumb, Jim says, But look, you never watched a

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<v Speaker 1>female comic go on stage about some guy they had

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<v Speaker 1>sex with, who had a little member who didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>them finish. I've cleaned that sentence up three times and thought,

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<v Speaker 1>how dare she? Right now? If I were to make

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<v Speaker 1>a joke about some women's general tillia being too large

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<v Speaker 1>and me not finishing, I'm the worst man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Right There's no difference between those two jokes. There just isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you believe that that woman when she makes

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<v Speaker 1>the joke hates men. No, you don't think that she

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<v Speaker 1>hates men like you know, I don't. Women are half

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<v Speaker 1>the population. I'm gonna make jokes about them. I do

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<v Speaker 1>self deprecating comedy all the time where I make jokes

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<v Speaker 1>about myself. Oh, I guess you could make an argument

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<v Speaker 1>that I hate myself. He discusses his mother. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a hard person to grow up with. She was physically

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<v Speaker 1>very abusive and verbally a very abusive person. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine I've had a chip on my shoulder about women,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably been unfair for much of my life

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<v Speaker 1>because my abuser was a three hundred pound woman growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So that's where this might

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<v Speaker 1>come from. Now, if you were here a female comic

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview say their father was abusive and belittled

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<v Speaker 1>them and was physically abusive and all this type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they said something about how men are, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't begrudge them. You can see where that's coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, there's no gray are with this

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't see where I'm coming from? Or why

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<v Speaker 1>is this the one subject where you don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joking? Jim are there any jokes you do regret,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. One in his twenty sixteen Netflix special Freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>he took aim at Jenny McCarthy and her son, Prison

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<v Speaker 1>made a joke about whether or not the son was

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<v Speaker 1>autistic or just Jenny McCarthy's son. Jim says, I was

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<v Speaker 1>more doing it because she was an anti vax person

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought which she was doing is very detrimental

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<v Speaker 1>to the world, and I felt like she was a

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<v Speaker 1>person who was more of a hindrance on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>than anything. So I made a joke about her child

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<v Speaker 1>as a parent. Now I'm deeply sorry I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have done that. Maria Bamford has a book out.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her husband, the artist Scott Marvel Cassidy, have

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<v Speaker 1>collaborated on Hodge Book and Laser Eyes, a graphic novel.

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<v Speaker 1>It describes their relationship from the perspective of their dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Bamford told The Express News, it's a beautiful sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a memorial to all the dogs that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of our relationship and how they supported us.

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<v Speaker 1>Max was a marine and then he got into private

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<v Speaker 1>detective work and that's why he did the perimeter of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever room he was in. He'd go around the perimeter

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure everything was safe. Then there were Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>and Betty. They were a bonded bear and they were

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<v Speaker 1>just completely in love with each other. Maria says they've

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<v Speaker 1>typically taken in older dogs, even though it's a setup

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<v Speaker 1>for heartbreak. She says, you know they're going to pass away,

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<v Speaker 1>But I prefer an older dog because I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I am. I like to sit down, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to eat. Sarah Silverman spoke to NPR about her early career.

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<v Speaker 1>You may recall it Sarah did blackface at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah said, I think early on there was more character

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<v Speaker 1>in her early work and certainly was purposely racist and

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<v Speaker 1>all the ists because the character was an ignorant, arrogant person,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like the truth would come through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it worked. I can't imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>level of ways in which that special does not hold

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<v Speaker 1>up now. I think it would be hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>any clip that works. It's very hardcore and it does

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<v Speaker 1>not hold up in today's world. But that's also what

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<v Speaker 1>art is. You know, you watch it in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five, and it's a very different show than when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it in twenty twenty four because you've changed,

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<v Speaker 1>because the world has changed around us. I'm absolutely not

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<v Speaker 1>proud of a lot of things in it looking back

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<v Speaker 1>at it today, but I accept that that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>is to be an artist who's been around a long

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<v Speaker 1>time without the leeway of changing and growing. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>defined by our singular moments. The world was bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>it was way more ignorant. It's funny because the character

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<v Speaker 1>was this ignorant character that I could point to and go,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't understand, she says all these horrible things, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay because it's a character. And then really, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super liberal blah blah blah. And then the irony was

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<v Speaker 1>that the real meat behind that was ignorant. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to accept that because that's me. And in order

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<v Speaker 1>to grow, you have to accept that you can grow

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<v Speaker 1>and change me different than you were, and not to

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself by your most ignorant moments. Kevin neil And

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the Union about explaining his comedic delivery, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's kind of like describing how you look.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I hear, people would say that my stand

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<v Speaker 1>up is very absurd, and a lot of misdirection, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did to friends, tell me my comedy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sneaks up on you. When I'm onto the next little

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<v Speaker 1>hunk I'm talking about. The laughter is just coming to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very conversational. You know what makes me laugh? Or children?

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<v Speaker 1>Children are so naive and they do things that are

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<v Speaker 1>just funny. I also like to go on the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Dose on the Internet and they have videos of animals

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<v Speaker 1>or kids or anything. It's really funny. My laughter comes

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<v Speaker 1>from normal people doing silly things. Chicago Sun Times caught

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<v Speaker 1>up with Langston Kerman. He graduated during the Great Recession

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I ended up moving back to my mom's basement,

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<v Speaker 1>which I vowed I would never do length since now

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, it all felt dark to me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so antithetical to what I had envisioned in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to school, I got could grades and follow

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<v Speaker 1>the rules, and now I'm back in this life I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want. He decided to take a risk and pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a dream. He signed up to do a comedy set

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<v Speaker 1>at an open mic at Doc Ryan's. I went up

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<v Speaker 1>there and I bomb for five minutes. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>the great kind of bomb that a sick person like

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<v Speaker 1>me can somehow translate as you should go do this again.

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<v Speaker 1>She keep trying. So every week I'd go up to

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<v Speaker 1>that open mic and bomb, and every week I felt

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better about the idea of pursuing this.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a podcast called My Mamma Told Me, which

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<v Speaker 1>showcases black conspiracy theories. For example, did Bill Cosby attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to buy NBC? Does the Black Illuminati exist? Or aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>chemtrails infecting the public with chemical or biological agents. Kerman says,

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<v Speaker 1>we take a lot of pride in either of us

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<v Speaker 1>being scared of any conversation. I think conspiracy theory is

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<v Speaker 1>so important. I don't mean that we should all be

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorists, but I do think the conspiracy theory is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the adult version of imagining and whimsy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating me to unpack where these ideas come from.

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<v Speaker 1>It is netflix special. He relays a time when a

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<v Speaker 1>student made fun of his poetry, and Kerman said, I

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<v Speaker 1>deeply resent that child. She's not a child anymore as

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<v Speaker 1>got smoke for her. Felippia Sparza said, I had great

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<v Speaker 1>advice one time from Paul Rodriguez because I was worried,

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<v Speaker 1>how is my comedy going to cross over? How's it

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<v Speaker 1>going to transcend to other cultures, to other nationalities, And

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<v Speaker 1>he told me don't worry about any of that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're funny, the audience will cross over to you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not your job to cross over to them. Deadline caught

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<v Speaker 1>up with Matt Berry. Matt, what were you doing before

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<v Speaker 1>you were an actor? Berry says, I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>London Dungeon. That The London Dungeon is a lunch in

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<v Speaker 1>tourist attraction. It's across between a museum and a live

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<v Speaker 1>performance kind of thing. During the course of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be Jack the ripper in the morning, and then

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be doing something like twenty or thirty shows a

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<v Speaker 1>day and I loved it. It was fantastic fun, but the

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how Dark Place happened. I was doing a

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<v Speaker 1>gig and Matt Holness and Richard Aoide come up to

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<v Speaker 1>me and said, we're doing a TV version of their

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<v Speaker 1>friend show Dark Place, and would like you to play

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<v Speaker 1>the Spanish doctor. In my head, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking a risk there. Because I've never done any

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<v Speaker 1>TV or any company before. I haven't got a clue.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously I didn't say that to them. I was like, yes, yes, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had nothing to lose and absolutely nothing going

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<v Speaker 1>on at that point, so it was all to play for.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said yes to everything and turned up to rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>I told people, including my family, said I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on TV next month. It wasn't until the adverts

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<v Speaker 1>everybody realized it wasn't full of stuff. Deadline asked about

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of Toast of Lunch and which is a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic show if you've never seen it, Barry said, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to do it because I've been doing voiceovers

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<v Speaker 1>for years and years with older actors seeing how they

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<v Speaker 1>behave just finding it very, very funny. I knew there

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<v Speaker 1>was something there, so I wrote all ideas for it,

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<v Speaker 1>his name and everything, and then spoke to Arthur Matthews.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I wasn't successful enough for anyone to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's written this, let's make it a series. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>help in the form of Arthur. And Arthur's still the

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<v Speaker 1>best of what he does. The character Toast. He's pompous

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<v Speaker 1>and he thinks that better things should be happening to him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a never ending supply of things you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to put him back in his place each time. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just fantastic to play because it's not set in

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<v Speaker 1>any particular time and as a foot in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and in the modern day, so we're not limited to

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do. A bit like Shadows, those characters

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<v Speaker 1>are in their own world and they can do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Will there'd be more, he said, Well, I did Toast

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<v Speaker 1>of tinsel Down the fourth series where he went to Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>him at the end. I don't know. I'm happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did everything with it that I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Vulture as their list of the comedians you should know

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<v Speaker 1>and will know. One of those comedians is young Me Meyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Young Me, if you were immortalized as a cartoon character,

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<v Speaker 1>what we were outfit be? She said, I already wear a

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<v Speaker 1>I did a show at a Jewish retirement home in

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<v Speaker 1>I started off by saying, so I'm a single mom,

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<v Speaker 1>really remember anything after that. I just slowly walked off stage,

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<v Speaker 1>like what could I even do to recover from a

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<v Speaker 1>double thumbs down? Nothing? Writing process. I cannot write jokes

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<v Speaker 1>while sitting down at a computer at nine am with

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<v Speaker 1>a cup of coffee. No matter how hard I try.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, I would set aside writing jokes time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't write jokes in that way. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way I can write jokes is on stage. There was

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<v Speaker 1>literally a two year period where I just stopped doing

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<v Speaker 1>bits on stage when just riff By going up with

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<v Speaker 1>zero material was horrible. But now I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>can do bits and they're more dynamic and fluid. I

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<v Speaker 1>think joke telling has to be sort of spontaneous for me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about being pushed into a hairy situation that

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<v Speaker 1>the life of me, pre plan any financial hurdles. The

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<v Speaker 1>biggest financial hurdle since becoming a comedian is becoming a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so broke. OMG. I have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my friend who was a normal

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five job that she hates, and she's also broke.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have to get side whustles as uber drivers

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurants servers or anyway, so why not do our

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<v Speaker 1>dream jobs on the side too. Best comedy advice was

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<v Speaker 1>for my friend who told me just post anything I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was funny, and not to be too precious about

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<v Speaker 1>it or to think about it too much. He also

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<v Speaker 1>told me not to post or act on social media

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<v Speaker 1>in a way to game the system, and always keep

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<v Speaker 1>true to what I thought was funny. Worst comedy advice

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen was when some old stand up comedians

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<v Speaker 1>told me to focus only on standout, never get into

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<v Speaker 1>doing online content because it will kill my live performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I understand where he's coming from, truth is, in

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age, all comedians need to hone the

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<v Speaker 1>skill of making content. It's a separate language. You mean

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<v Speaker 1>good is it doesn't translate to the station, vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>All comedians need to learn both languages. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>your comedy needs for today. If you enjoy the program,

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<v Speaker 1>tell a friend about it. They might like it too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would like the program without commercial interruption, this

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<v Speaker 1>link of the show notes. Tell you how that works,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you tomorrow.
