Speaker 1: Made destange o pay is sunny sund on, I haddasion.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: So what's up? Everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud.
I know it sounds a little bit different. Did it
sound different, Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds different that you're opening the show.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is it jarring? Is it?
Speaker 2: It's a little jarring?
Speaker 3: You feel upset?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It's okay. Everything's going to be okay because guess what.
Lynette is not here today because remember last week when
Sonny when she was talking about how Sonny hurt his
ankle and he was going to have to be home.
Well it turns out it's fractured. Poor kid fractured his ankle.
Now she has to do a walk in with an
orthopedist with him because he's leaving town on Wednesday to
go to New York with Adam. So she had to
get this done today and she couldn't come in. But
guess who could come in? My husband John Taylor.
Speaker 1: Hello, Oh the excitement you can just you can hear
people going, You can hear this size going. Oh hell no, everybody's.
Speaker 3: Going to be excited. You haven't been on the show
in like a couple years. I think a couple of years, right.
Speaker 2: No, he was on recently, Yeah, recently last year? Yeah,
I think I think this year? Was it this year?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Was I on last week? I might have been on
last week?
Speaker 3: Maybe he did? He did come in? Didn't he did?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But you know what, well, actually no, I came
in last year, but I wasn't. I just came in
to pick you up when your foot was broken.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you did? Do you did guest on
the show?
Speaker 2: It's possible, Yeah, no, you did.
Speaker 1: I have no memory. I mean I come from a
family of Alzheimer's, so I'm not reliable.
Speaker 3: Oh now you had to bring it there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's true.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say hello
to our people first. That's what we do. You know
how it goes. We got Dick Frolicker, Kelly Laddie do
Katie's rolling on e Nikki come on, call your girls.
Elizabeth Williamson has a lot of kids, and Rita roxaman
or Bassinette, Polly we love your pancakes, and Valerie hits
it out of the park. Katerina make sure you check
your molar. John knows he gets it. You've seen me
lose a lot of molars.
Speaker 1: Oh hell, yep.
Speaker 3: Gabby and Missy they had an interesting weekend. We should
have them call in. Tell us what went sideways. Let's
see Ishan Vashpe so cute. Rebecca Lubinju really cute. Kelly
Brant She's not your amp, but she'll take you to
hip hop class. Alicia Ascalante from the city of Alvante.
Leslie is still coughing. Sarah Stefano, she's our Paisano. Aaron,
you know you know what you are. Jennifer, get up.
Sandra's not easy being green and Jacob, we love you
you and your growley self.
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. Everybody here. Everybody had had a weekend,
had a weekend. Caitlin, I say, we start with you,
all right.
Speaker 2: Well, I had to push all my pond work onto Saturday.
I love working on weekends because Friday night was like
a Christmas event at the kids' school. I never know
what these things are.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: Amy just says, hey, we're working this event. It's a
Christmas thing. I go, all right, fine, So we get
there and I'm like like Okay, so I've done I've
done two events there. The first one was like a
big carnival the whole parking lot. They had games, they
had uh you know, slides, jump houses, food, big barbecue.
And then the next one was a Halloween one like
trigger treating, but they decked out the backs of trunk
trunk what do they call it trunk retreat something like that. Yeah,
they had all the cars decorated, this big thing and
this one. I get there and we get there twenty
minutes early and they're still like hanging the lights.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: And there's three games and then just food and I'm
like Amy, what what is this? And she's like, Oh,
it's just meant for the kids to come and hang out.
But there's like nothing to do here.
Speaker 3: Kids are notoriously not good hanger outers. Yeah right, they
need activities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: That's why we invented the iPhone. You just go on
their screen and not be disappointed.
Speaker 3: There should be a little screen center where they could
sit down and like check out an iPad and just
do their own thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be a big Christmas event,
Christmas thing, right. No, there was like three games.
Speaker 3: There was like a band, a fire truck.
Speaker 1: Is everything carnival based, because shouldn't there be like a
Christmas pageant or a holiday pageant?
Speaker 2: Would think? So, oh, I thought, that's what this is
gonna be. It's gonna be a big Christmas party like
the carnival was.
Speaker 1: You can't have three carnivals in three months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: You can exhaust the carnies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 3: It sounds like your school shot their wide on Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. And I don't know, there's just there
wasn't really anything to do here. Like I said, there's
three games. There's like a cookie making station, it food,
but whatever. I'm there just to volunteer to get my
hours in. So they at first she's like, oh, you're
just gonna be a floater if I need anybody. I
was like, great, I can just sit down.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then finally she goes, no, the person for the
ring toss game didn't show up, so you go do
the ring toss game. And so it's these like it's
kind of like you know, like a like a pool
floaty like that material but like harder, but it's that
kind of material, and it's you know those are the rings,
and there are these crappy like reindeer antlers, and you
got to throw them onto the first off. These rings
are so cheap that within the first ten minutes they
just start breaking. Kids are throwing them, they land on
the ground, they just breaking half. I go, oh shit, okay,
and yeah, about twenty minutes into my shift, a guy
walks over. He goes, hey, I'm here to I'm here
to help another parent like me, Like, I don't know
what to do. I'm like, I don't really have anything
for you to do. Just stand there.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, I'm ring tusk guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they've stuck me over here to help. And
I go okay, And so I'm running the thing and
he's just standing there the whole time doing nothing, which
is fine. There's nothing for him to do. So I go.
At one point, the all these rings start breaking. I go,
you gotta go, you gotta go tell them to get
some other ones. So, yeah, for an hour and a half,
I stood there.
Speaker 3: And just don't leave me hanging. Did he go and
get more rings?
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 3: Or did he just wander off? And yeah, he get
stuck at like an eggnog station.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just.
Speaker 1: Go to the habit and get onion rings and that'll.
Speaker 2: It took him like twenty minutes, but eventually a lady
came back with some duct tape and it was like, here,
let's just tape them back together. Oh Jesus, they just
yet duct taped them back together. And uh I was like, yeah,
I was one of three games. There's a little little
punch card that you give the kids. I was like,
O hey, you get on this first one, that's one point.
You get on this far one, it's two points. But
you know me, at these events, I'm just handing out
the punches. I don't give a fuck whether you get
on the antlers or not on the antlers, I'm gonna
punch the shit out of your card. I'm giving you
extra ring tosses. And I think a lot of the
kids caught on too. They knew that I was just
giving out the punches because they just kept coming back
and coming back. The love you yeah, oh yeah, they.
Speaker 3: See you volunteering at an event, they make a b
live kal.
Speaker 2: Yeah and so uh yeah, I was very freely handing
out all the all the.
Speaker 1: Well you're veried delete how many hours did you.
Speaker 2: Get hour and a half.
Speaker 1: That's not a.
Speaker 3: Lot like fakes dead.
Speaker 1: What's the quote was?
Speaker 2: Amy was doing an hour and a half too, So
we got three hours total.
Speaker 3: How many did you need for the year? Fifty?
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was two hours. I think it's two hours.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I think it's like thirty. What's thirty
or forty per family? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of teeth did they put it in?
If you don't make that, does your kid get expelled
or shamed or something?
Speaker 2: Now you oh, you have to pay money. Oh and
by the way, I already paid money, so I wouldn't
have to do any fundraising.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, pay the money and you don't
have the fundraise. Oh, but you still have to volunteer.
So unless I want to pay the volunteer, not volunteers, like, okay,
well volunteer, that's fine.
Speaker 3: How much can I ask how much it is to
not have to volunteer?
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but it's it's not a small it's
not a small amount. It's enough to go, like, all right,
let's do volunteering. Like it's like at least a thousand dollars.
I think, Wow, I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was picturing four hundred. I was like,
what would it take for me to like it was
four hundred? I feel like, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Probably paid four hundred. Yeah, i'd pay four hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand, No, I'd probably show up at some events.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. That's like work Ring Toss in the twelve hundreds.
If you were like really rich, you could go and
you could pay the church for your sins, so you
wouldn't have to atone. It's kind of just simplified version
of that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there is a church at the school,
so I'm kind of see it's all it's still paying
the church with my time.
Speaker 1: It's still it's it's on the operating system from eight
hundred years ago. Yeah, it doesn't change.
Speaker 3: Weigh in on this, like, do you feel because we
don't have that anymore. Although I do a lot of volunteering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a guilt volunteer. You volunteer for everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I do. But in elementary school it was required. Yeah,
although we didn't get charged if you didn't do it,
so it was kind of it was kind of the
honor system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get that side eye.
Speaker 3: Yes, do you remember any volunteering that you did do.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember a lot of ourlunteering that you did.
I did. I did campus clean up A bunch of
not a bunch. I did probably three times. I went
for campus clean up days on the weekend because that
was easier. And you didn't I mean it was it
was manual labor, but you didn't have you didn't have
like a very upset kid who you had to the
happiness of their day didn't depend on me doing the
right thing. I'm like, I'll just you know, rake a
bed out. No kid's going to be upset because I didn't,
you know, do the ring toss replace the rings.
Speaker 3: Also, he couldn't volunteer on like regular school days because
you know, he couldn't pass a live scan. But that's
that's a story.
Speaker 1: That is hurtful. That's defamation, calling my lawyer.
Speaker 3: So then it was over. Did the kids have fun there?
Speaker 2: They did? They had they had fun. And the best
part too, was you know, I was in charge of
the whole punchers. So I just got a card, punched
all ten holes and gave it to Island Blake. Here
you go go get a toy. Is that yeah, it's
just you know, hey, the guy that knows what's up.
Speaker 1: They're in the system. Kids. Yeah, have you shown them
Good Fellas yet?
Speaker 2: No? That's uh, that's next.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good little lessons, and particularly
in the first.
Speaker 2: Half of that, they're starting to get old enough now
to where they can watch, like, you know, real live
action movies. So it's actually kind of a bummer because
it's Christmas and I want to show them Christmas movies.
I want to show them like Home Alone and stuff,
and all they want to watch is Bluey and this
show called Tots, which are not Christmas themed at all.
It's the only shows they'll watch. I'm like, hey, let's
watch Christmas. No Blue, we want blue Christmas. Let's watch Christmas.
Speaker 1: And the kids shows have changed, haven't they.
Speaker 2: Blue is a big one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See that makes me sad.
Speaker 3: There's one called what's that one that uh, I asked
you about like a couple of years ago, because all.
Speaker 2: The Coco melon Coca.
Speaker 3: Melon is but we we were too late for Coco melan.
Speaker 1: We were late on that. But it's now that defunding
PBS is is nigh is where you know, the probably
PBS will be defunded, So now everybody's like, Okay, your
kid will never grow up having any alternative to cocoa melon,
So welcome to the impact of society.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pokemon is the worst, but that's for Yeah, that's
for like little kids like one to three. Yeah, like
Blake might still get a kick out of it, but they're,
like I said, they're moving on to like live action movies.
Speaker 3: There's this what about Elf? Are they too young for Elf?
Speaker 2: I hope not. I would love to show them Mouf
that's like one, It's my favorite Christmas movie. But I
have a feeling that they might be a little bit
young for Elf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a lot of I mean, Elf is
ostensibly a you know, a kid's movie, but it's got
a lot of sort of dark undertones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the kids don't They're not going to get
any double there. But and Will Ferrell's like a big goofy.
Speaker 2: Guy, Like they might like that, but I can't even
get them to watch anything other than their cartoons.
Speaker 1: Like, but I mean I know a lot of the kids,
I mean, do they still have does Nick Junior still broadcast?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't even have, Like we just got rid
of our cable and so we have we have YouTube
TV now. Oh I think Nick Nickelodeon is on there.
Speaker 1: But they've got I mean, so many cable channels are
just going out of business in the streaming implosion.
Speaker 2: And they pretty much just exclusively run SpongeBob on it.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think when I had when I had cable, I
would flip by it and it seemed like it was
always SpongeBob and like Blue, they played blueye on ye
like Nick.
Speaker 1: Well, it's an MTV network, and I know for the
last five years, MTV has played ridiculousness probably you know,
twenty hours a day, every day.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: So, I mean they've just you know, pretty much given
up on live programming.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how MTV works anymore, because yes,
they only play ridiculousness. But I've come to realize, and
I haven't looked into it, that MTV is somehow producing
all of the Taylor Sheridan shows. Wow, you know, like
the Yellowstones, the that's crazy, like all those tailor I
always see, like MTV Entertainment. At the end of it,
I go, how did MTV get into like Paramount and working.
Speaker 1: With well, Paramount owned the MTV Networks, which is why,
you know, they've been kind of defunding them for years.
But I mean I worked for VH one for a
couple of years, right around the turn of the turn
of the century where I'm old, but around around the
two thousand and two thousand and one. I mean, if
they just had you know, four buildings chock full of
people in edit bays going day and night, and then
just to see it just gone, I mean, I don't
even know if this is VH one even in existence.
I've looked.
Speaker 2: I don't know cables.
Speaker 1: I'm old.
Speaker 3: Remember when I was doing perenal Discretion, Nick Junior was
still kind of a big thing, and that's why there
was a huge outcry that at the end of the
day it was cool. Well, the problem was is it
was supposed to turn into a mom's network after dark.
So it was supposed to be like Nick at night,
but so it was supposed to be like after ten
pm would be like edgy mom shows. But the problem
was in some time zones it wasted like seven pm
well first of all, and some Yeah, so you had
people that were like, all of a sudden, here's this
lady talking about penis, penis, penis, vagina, like sex with.
Speaker 1: Your hands, like my little Dakota heard the word vagina.
And then the letters started flying.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and then people went nuts, and then
there were news stories and then remember I accidentally responded
to a guy and oh yeah, I got in trouble
with the network because some guy had gone on like
the new Oh no, some guy was complaining to me
wrote me this message. So I wrote him back and
he was like, it's disgusting what you're doing. And I
was like, hey, I totally get it, but like I didn't.
We didn't. I don't. I was not aware that we
were going to be airing at seven pm or whatever.
I responded. He went to the news with that, and
then they ran a news story saying that the one
of the hosts of the show responded and oh, Nickelodeon
was not happy with me. I got a call from
the network basically saying, please don't do that. They do
not respond a.
Speaker 1: PR department, Please don't freelance, particularly Reverend Billy Jack from Arkansas.
He he's got a bone to pick. Let's let the
professionals deal with it.
Speaker 3: That was like ten years ago. People love them some
Nick Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I was a big Nickelodeon kid growing up.
That was pretty much what I watched exclusively. There's a
little Cartoon network shows, but yeah, a lot of Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1: Grown up You probably are, I mean you're probably at
the beginning of the generation that ended with our kids.
I mean, what what what were you? What were you watching?
Speaker 2: SpongeBob was okay, yeah, that came about. That came. I
was there right at the beginning of SpongeBob, so that
was that was a big one. There was, oh, some
of the old shows. There was cat Dog that shew.
It was like half of it was a dog and
the other half was a cow.
Speaker 1: Jesus, they could get away with just God, why didn't
I pitch that? Oh? Every I mean I remember when
they when Xander and and Sadie really got into a
lot of those shows, and I mean it was just
like everybody who was in animation with you know, I
mean they had to be doing massive amounts of acid
because it was like, what was the one that had
it was like breadmakers or something, and it was just
completely nonlinear and they were just there was no logic
that and you know, they'd changed shape and there was
no narrative story and it was just like are my
kids just dosing and lovingness? Or I was so confused
and they loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean I
I remember going over to someone's house was when our
kids were like six, the younger ones, and her kid
was watching some show that was what was the one
with the hand? Remember was it Ubie?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one that was just a hand that would like
talk to you.
Speaker 1: But that was like, yeah, okay, I can understand that.
I mean, I remember.
Speaker 3: Watching I know what you're talking about. The bread.
Speaker 1: I can't it. It was. It was awful, but I
mean I just I would look at it and be
like and they are laughing their heads off, and then
they'd be, you know, repeating catchphrases later in the day
and I'm just like, do you can you tell me
what that was about. They're like no, I'm like, okay, well,
I mean back in the old day, you'd have like
a nice little we'd watch Chuck Jones or you know,
Loony Tunes. It's like, okay, here's the conceit. You know,
the coyote just really wants to get that road runner,
and you know you had a hook, and they're just like, Okay,
you've got something that looks like a bird and something
looks like a you know, a squirrel worm hybrid and
they drive around in a sports car and yell at people.
It's like, I don't understand, but the kids loved it,
and I guess you know, yep, they're gonna be repercussions
for that.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. So John, you took the kids to
go do something on your own on Friday night?
Speaker 1: Phrase that on your own? I gave you sedatives in
the night off. No, we we actually went to the
first the kids first real I mean, they've they've been
to a lot of local concerts with bands that were,
you know, staffed by friends and older brothers of friends.
They even go down to the Whiskey in Hollywood for
pay to play nights. But they'd never really been to
a real name show, and we had tried. We tried
to go see Food Fighters and sadly Taylor Hawkins died
and they canceled the show, and we tried to go again,
and tickets were like fourteen hundred bucks a seat. Right, Yeah,
So my attempt to make good is they actually they've
got the twins have I mean, they kind of have
a similar music taste to me. I don't think I
forced it on them, but they just have borrowed a
lot of my music. But anyway, long story short, we
went to see Dinosaur Junior, which was their.
Speaker 3: First real do you know about band Kaln I do not.
Speaker 1: They were big in the nineties, like so many bands,
but they're a big alternative band. They used to tour
with The Cure a lot, to the degree that they
now close with just like having a metal version of
just like Hevin. They's sort of a post punk alternative band,
not really metal, but they're led by a guy named
Jay Mascus who's like a brilliant, weird guitar player. But
we got tickets about three months ago and it was
a place called the bell Weather, which is kind of
new that's downtown, but it was their their first show,
so it was very exciting and we went and it
was general admission, so I think that was kind of
new to them, which and you know, I'm from you know,
hundreds of shows. I've got my own general admission strategy.
But it was kind of interesting because I had never
Sadie is five foot flat and and that's a different
It's a little different when you go to a show
and you've got to and you've got all of these
you know, forty year old dads and flannel and they're
all six feet and then you've got your five foot
daughter who you're trying to find a visionality for.
Speaker 3: But right, and it's a weird age because it's she's
too old and too heavy to like put on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: I tried. At one point, I tried to lift her
up and I got the dirt. Just look. Xander tried
to lift her up and she turned around and almost
punched him. And then I'm like, well, maybe she'll let
me lift her up, and she just I wanted to see.
Speaker 3: So I thought you met you got dirty looks from
other people.
Speaker 1: Oh no, from her, she was like don't you. I mean,
Sadie's very you know, she doesn't want anybody to draw
any attention. And she was just so. But Xander actually
was great. Xander was like, okay, I'm gonna be a big
brother here, and he kind of after a couple of songs,
he just started to lead block. He saw a couple
of kind of drunk bros push in front of her
and and he was like, all right, that's and so
he pushed back and went around them and kind of,
you know, I thought you know, I'll be the dad,
and I'm you know, I'm the show benner. And but
Xander's like, all right, we've had enough, and he sort
of plowed his way to the middle. And after that
it was great. But you know, it was it was
it was a lot of fun. I mean, they loved
the show. They you know, sort of teach him, how okay,
we're this close to the amps, put in your ear
plugs if you ever want to hear again. So of course, I,
being you know, now worried dad, I took a pocket
full of your plugs. It's something I never thought i'd do.
But anyhow, so that was in you know, it was
one of these shows where it started out it was
it was a little slow at the beginning. They were
redoing an album that was thirty released thirty years ago,
and it was, you know, it was okay, and then
suddenly it just got great. They brought out Kim Gordon,
who's kind of a famous punk rock star from the
seventies and eighties. She founded Sonic Youth, and she came
out and did iggy pop and it was just suddenly,
from that point on it was fantastic and the kids
were having a great time, and they were buzzing, and
because it was their first show, you know, I plunked
down and bought the merch at the merch table at
a show, which.
Speaker 3: Is I know, but I love it. But they were
so excited, Yeah they.
Speaker 1: Were, they were high coming back. It was great. But yeah,
I want to tell you, a T shirt, even a
even an indie show, it's going to be forty bucks apiece.
But it was fun. You got to get a shirt
from your first Yeah, you a shirt?
Speaker 3: I mean, should you have secretly bought the shirt and
then we could have wrapped it and given it to
them for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Yes, that's too much thinking, That's.
Speaker 3: What my brain was.
Speaker 1: But Xander needed to wear it for the next night anyway.
Speaker 3: Yes, well that so it was fun. I came home,
like really in a great mood.
Speaker 1: Well was bought before the show, but.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, it's their first show show.
Speaker 1: What am I going to deny them?
Speaker 3: I feel like I've taken them to some stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've taken them to yacht like yacht rock cover bands,
not the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Xander's got a couple of times to Queen.
Speaker 1: Not real, Queen Queen Nation, Queen Nation, Thanks.
Speaker 3: So similar to the real band.
Speaker 1: He's also been to a Foo Fighter's cover band in thousand.
Oh true, that was that was funny. I've got pictures
from that. Most It's like most of the crowd there,
I think were probably in a militia. They were not young,
They're not Foo Fighters fans. They had a lot of
you know, anti government tattoos. It was a kind of
a unique little.
Speaker 3: Slice of life centers.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: It was definitely a lot of three percenters there, but
and a little pod of like sixty eight year old groupies.
It was amazing. I mean they had bubba wings and
they were fighting for the band and it was it
was quite a slice of life.
Speaker 3: It's really sad, now, Kaitlin, this is you don't have
to listen to this. This is not your life yet.
But I'll go to a band that I'm super excited
about that you know that I feel like it's still
nineteen eighty four, you know, I'll go I would go
to see I don't know who did I go to see?
Speaker 1: Did you go?
Speaker 3: Stario Speedwag Ario Speedwagon Sticks and lover Boy? Yeah, best
concert of my life. But you go to something like
that and you look around and You're like, what are
all these like literal senior citizens doing here? And then
you talk to somebody and they're like, oh, yeah, I
was born in like sixty eight or whatever, and you're like,
oh shit, I'm they're looking at me the same way.
They're like, look, who's that old lady.
Speaker 1: Most of the shows I go to are I mean,
it's it's all and I mean it's one layer, but
beyond that it's old. It's it's forty late forties to
late fifties dudes. But also just like me, sort of
not quite coping with their age. They're all in Chuck
Taylor's flannel shirts concert tees from other concerts you don't
want to wear.
Speaker 3: The right they know better, they know better that.
Speaker 1: But and you know, and it's just these guys all
think they're, you know, twenty eight and they're fifty eight,
and they're all in Nile and so am I and
we're all wearing Chuck Taylors and you know now and
then you'll pull them aside, go do you have urch
supports in those ideas? But it's the only I mean,
oh god, you can't. You can't wear Chuck Taylors and
you're in you're late middle age. Without an art support
of your back will kill you. But so you can't.
You can only be about three quarters into day.
Speaker 3: Kalen's like doing other things right now.
Speaker 1: Well, Kaylyn has sensible shoes on.
Speaker 3: Kaylann's wearing pajama bottoms. I gets it, he gets it.
Speaker 2: Christmas given up.
Speaker 1: There, Christmas. I was kind of bummed when I came in.
I told him, I said, I wanted to wear my
little flannel Jamie pants, but I figured it was a
little too casual, so I put on real pants.
Speaker 3: And too casual for what a comfortable You're all comfortable.
Speaker 1: I feel like I missed the memo. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I know. Lynette and I went through a phase where
we were like, we should work going to be on camera,
perhaps there's clips, we should dress up a little bit,
do our makeup, and then we were like that lasted
like yes, they're like, I'm tired.
Speaker 1: We should have a sketch artist.
Speaker 3: That's funny. Well, the thing is that you have given
our kids good taste in music. And speaking of that
last a couple of nights ago. So you know, Kaylan,
I look at Kaylan, but the audience doesn't know that look,
I bring Kaylen into our conversation. We had. You know
how our kids are in this music lab program. Yeah,
and they are. They're all divided into bands, and they
had one of their big shows. Now remember that. I'm
going to just tell a little bit about the fact
that we already had that fall thing where I complained
endlessly about the looking for items for gift baskets stressed
harvest fest. Yes, so this was just our it was
called it's called a club We don't say the name
of the school, but it was a club night and
it was so all the bands were performing and I
was in charge of it myself. So I just did
the baskets myself. And I got to say, when you're
not including other people, you'd think it would be harder,
it's easier. It's actually easier to just go like I
got it, let me just arrange, let me figure it out.
I didn't have nearly the amount of stress that I
had when there was a lot of in the kitchen,
you know, giving me items and suggestions and you know,
telling me who I had to think. It was like,
I got I got it, let me just do it,
And I did it. And thank you to Fern candle
the kit. I did a candle basket and it was
such a big, a big one. You should just know that, Kelsey.
Everybody wanted their their candle basket. Did the wax melter
and wax melts. You guys, this is an awesome carle.
Speaker 1: You have the basic basket.
Speaker 3: The basic basket. What do you mean if you.
Speaker 1: Like candles, you're sort of like the ultimate basic bitch, which.
Speaker 3: There are tons of basic bitches. There's a lot of
basic bitches that wanted that wanted the candle basket. A
guy won it, which was funny. Okay, So I had
gift cards that I had people donate some gift cards
and we had a bunch of gift cards. We had
a candle basket. We had it doesn't really matter. The
point is it was a really great night and it
was pretty low stress. The kids did great. And I
was going to say that it's funny because our kids
when they perform with their bands, they like a lot
of like retro music.
Speaker 1: Oh the whole that whole group does, which is I mean,
I was shocked. One group did the Dead Milkman, which
was you know, a real, very very niche band or
I'm sorry niche band from the eighties and nineties. Just
I mean and suddenly, yeah, what was the song they did?
Punk rock Girl?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, punk rock Girl? Do you know that song?
Speaker 1: No, it's you. If you didn't grow up between nineteen
eighty six and nineteen ninety two, you never would have
heard of them.
Speaker 2: I was born in ninety two.
Speaker 1: Here you go. Thank you for me. I feel even older.
I have sneakers that are six seven years older than
you that I still weary. But yeah, I mean I
went to see this band with one hundred and fifty
people and you know, nineteen eighty eight and suddenly they're
doing it was kind of shocking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really cool songs. And Xander's band did I Want
the Smith Smith's Yeah, And Sadie's band did the Cure Cure?
I mean, they were really like they have a lot
of eighties taste. I sometimes play the kids songs and
go like this could be a good song, and they'll
be like, yeah, heard it. The kids will sing along.
Just so many eighties songs because of how do you
know the I'm not just talking about yacht rock. Yes,
they've make a yacht rock because they know all the
words to Brandy or a fine girl. But they also
know like cool songs that I listened to in high school.
Speaker 1: No, they, I mean most kids these days. I mean
just because I don't know whether it's the algorithm throws
stuff at them or you know, Spotify and Apple Music.
But you can throw anything from the mid anything that's
sort of in anybody from twenty to seventies.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they know a lot of big band,
but they know anything from the Beatles to the current day.
You can just throw something on They're like, oh, I
know that. It's like, how do you know that? Where
does your friend reference come in to know the Raspberries from?
You know, nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy it's.
Speaker 1: The algorithm, but they all, I mean they all know
all the songs, not just our kids, any kids their
age do.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, it's al. That's what Lynette and I
call it. It's al.
Speaker 1: It's al yeah, rhythm, Yeah, AL.
Speaker 3: Who knows what we want for Christmas? Who knows what
we're thinking about? Who knows the exact kind of like
fuzzy sweatpants we want to buy for ourselves?
Speaker 1: I'm to being our future lord and master. Yes, Yes,
right now, it's the it's the fun face. But pretty
soon when you.
Speaker 3: Think something and you go think about.
Speaker 1: A song and it's on Amazon.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly, and Al's like, oh you want you want
more of that?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you. I think I
told Xander. But yesterday on my on my Facebook feed,
yes I'm old. I watched Facebook or look at Facebook.
They were there were two pictures like in within ten
hours of people wearing dinosaur junior shirts. There was a
picture of Rachel what's your name from Mean Girls and
Adams Rachel mccadams in a movie from ninety or from
two thousand and five, wearing a dinosaur junior shirt. And
then there was do you think.
Speaker 3: She was even wearing a dinosaur junior shirt or do
you think a I put a dinosaur junior shirt on her?
They because maybe somebody maybe you thought or talked about
Mean Girls and Dinosaur Junior and they're like, here you go.
Speaker 1: It could be I mean either way, but it's it was.
It was I'm just like, what the hell? But you know,
that's the world we live in now.
Speaker 3: It's the world we live in. A world just again,
stuff you want, just just you think something and it
appears they for sure our phones are listening to us.
Speaker 1: Oh without a doubt.
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I have a sleep gummy. It's it's kind of sad
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what was I going to say?
Speaker 2: Phones listening to you?
Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna say that, John and I true story.
We we we finally got new phones. Do you see,
look I upgraded. We've got new phones. Here's here's the
embarrassing part, Tom.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we update our kids' phones like every
two years, or with LB when one of her friends
throws her in a pool with her phone, like every year.
So our our iPhone budget is strictly aimed at our kids.
So that leaves on our part. We I think we've
been six years. I mean our iPhone still had a
crank on this.
Speaker 3: I think eight years. The guy told me my phone
was eight years old.
Speaker 1: I think he was kind of. I think it was
six or seven years.
Speaker 3: But well, I had an iPhone ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my phone's my iPhone still had a party line.
I'd be like, give me Madison six. But yeah, ours
were so old they couldn't even you couldn't even display
like a long if I wanted to read, like a
New York Times article would get halfway down. It would
be too much memory just to load an article. It
was sad. Yeah, pathetic.
Speaker 3: My battery was dying, like you know, i'd have two
hours later it would be like you're a twenty five percent.
I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: And have you ever confessed on air to your addiction
to bejeweled in threes?
Speaker 3: Yes? I have, right, Caitlin, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I mean she will literally, I mean we could
be watching the Most Taught documentary, or she could be
watching the super Bowl and she'll be you know, she'll
be doing threes and I'll be like, look look at that.
Look at No. She'll grudgingly put it aside for a
second more.
Speaker 2: But now I likes to look at her phone when
oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not much better. I mean, I but
I can watch a show and just watch the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he shows off what he's like, look
at me, like not looking at my phone. I'm watching
the show, Like if you have to congratulate yourself on that, and.
Speaker 1: Then look at me, I'm one screen. Yeah it's so sad.
Speaker 2: But that's like my barometer for how good what I'm
watching is. Yeah, so if I tend to go to
my phone, then whatever I'm watching, I'm like and this
isn't very good. See that I think that can keep
my attention through the whole thing. I'm like, Okay, this
is a good movie, this is a good show.
Speaker 1: Could you could put the best, most you know, engrossing
thing and she will still be on. I mean, she
can be watching a cult doc which is sort of
the top of the pyramid. In fact, you were You're
watching the Nexium doc last night. Yeah, and still you're
just like, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: You know how people will say like, oh, that meeting
could have been an email. My barometer is like, could
that TV show have been a podcast? Because if so,
if it's a podcast, then I can easily be doing
two things at once. Right then, I then it's fine
to be playing but Jeweled or threes on my phone
while I'm listening to a podcast. But suddenly you put
pictures on the screen, and now, oh, I gotta focus
on the screen and see what lure And a lot
of times it's just a person talking. So then my
brain goes like, do I need to John, get off
your phone? You're literally on a podcast right now?
Speaker 1: You know why because and I will here, Sadie just
texted me in the middle of.
Speaker 3: A college I know, I already know that Oh okay.
Speaker 1: Well, she's in the middle of a college session. She's like,
did either of you graduate from a four year college?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: So, I just she doesn't know that you went to
a four year college currently not.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: That is I should wear more. I've got right now
on my head. I've got a Syracuse hat, but it
only says cues, so I guess she can't extrapolate she.
Speaker 3: Knows that you went to Syracuse.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you know.
Speaker 3: Speaking of that, I would like to segue into a
topic of conversation, which I think is will be of interest.
People are probably wondering, did you guys fight a lot
about like the college thing with the kids? And uh,
did we even talk about this last time?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Did we discuss our how things, how tense things got
in our house? And when it comes to like the
whole college thing, considering the fact that I didn't go
to college. I don't know if anybody if I've ever
mentioned that I didn't go to college. Kaylin didn't either,
He went to community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I dropped out.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know Lynnette also dropped out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know a lot of people I know
dropped out of college and you know, are doing as
well or better than me. So I am certainly not
one to say there's one path.
Speaker 3: But tell everybody, tell us about like what college, the
whole college pressure in your house. We when we were
going into talking about college with our kids, working on
college with our kids, John really wanted to hire a
college counselor, which is a big thing these days. Not
and we're not talking about the time that costs like
forty thousand dollars we're talking about but it was a
few thousand dollars. But John's big goal with hiring a
college counselor was I don't want to pressure my kids
the way that I was pressured.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, my dad. You know, my
dad was overly focused on college when I was growing up.
And I mean my grandfather had been a college professor,
my aunt was a college professor. You know, my dad
went to Princeton. So we put like a big, you know,
a lot of freight on you know, getting into a
good school and you know, you've got your your worth
will be determined by what school you go to, and
so there was a lot of focus on it, and
you know, there and you know, he really I watched
my sister three years older than me, and I watched
my sister, who was you know, I fought back against
my dad a lot more. My sister was very quiet
and very you know, she was a very good kid,
and and my dad just leaned on her and she
got into a lot of very competitive schools.
Speaker 3: But she did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she got but she I mean, she didn't
want to go to I mean, my dad wanted one
of us to go to Princeton. It was like it
was sort of like all right, and so there was
just and again I think it wasn't It wasn't I
will say in my dad's defense, it had nothing to
do with status or socially, just convinced that, you know,
you will only get as far in life as you know,
your college will vault you. And he was really and
uh and I think he was just because of that.
He just and he really didn't moderate the way he
dealt with us. It was just kind of like, either
you're going to be a success and get into the
schools you want, or you're going to be a failure
living on the street. I might as well give you
a syringe right now. So and you know, I just
have a lot of memories of my sister being you know,
in tears for two years going up to that. And
I mean, so I and.
Speaker 3: You didn't do that well in high school?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I went to I went to a really
I went to a private school. It was really competitive,
and a couple of classes I just was and I was,
I was, you know, I was kind of a happy kid.
And I drank a little too much in my teens,
and I had some undiagnosed depression. So I just you know,
I my grades were all over the place. I had
really good SATs, which saved my saved my life because
back in those days you could get into some schools
just onessats and I had Syracuse mostly on my SATs.
Speaker 3: But what did you do you remember?
Speaker 1: Your score was fourteen twenty or fourteen forty.
Speaker 3: Okay, according to like paying for college though on the
Facebook group, that's not very competitive.
Speaker 1: Yeh, it's okay, that's back.
Speaker 3: Retake it.
Speaker 2: That's back when it was out of sixteen hundred though, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sixteen it was it was a different that's.
Speaker 3: Isn't it still it's still out of sixteen hundred.
Speaker 2: It's gone twenty four hundred.
Speaker 1: It's gone up and down and up and down. But
back in sixteen hundred was perfect, and you needed to
get into.
Speaker 3: Harvard's still out of sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1: You needed to get like a fourteen.
Speaker 2: They used to say, was out of twenty four hundred.
That's for sure. Yeah, because I got I got like
a fourteen fifty two. It went I was out of
twenty four hundred.
Speaker 1: It went up and back down.
Speaker 3: People talk about like, oh, my kid got a fifteen sixty.
If they take it again, could they get like to
fifteen eighty, they're it's out of sixteen.
Speaker 1: And I mean it was again. It's gotten even more competitive.
I mean because you know, I doubt with just I
mean with my with my grades and my SATs, I
couldn't have even gotten into Syracuse.
Speaker 3: Oh I got in. I had a two point three GPA,
as i've and I got into U mass with eleven
ninety SAT. They were like, yep, come on in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I just I mean, I had I
got a I think I got a d er and
I screwed up and.
Speaker 2: It went to twenty four hundred from twenty five to
twenty sixteen. And then I went back to sixteen hundred Againah,
oh okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I got a couple of very
bad grades junior year, but my dad still made me
go to Princeton for the interview. And you know, I
still remember sitting down.
Speaker 3: So how did you get the interview in the first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to sound you know, just
one of my dad was friends with, I mean my
dad again still in the early eighties, and I mean
it wasn't fair and I digency legacy, legacy, he knew
the director of admissions at Princeton, I mean, and it
was just, you know, it was so you know, overly
precious that the guy was a nice guy, but we
both knew that I didn't belong there. So and it
was interesting because the week before my interview, Brook Shields
had said that she wanted to go to Princeton. She
was a year behind me, and just because there was
no way I was getting into Princeton, and I think
we both knew it. I had a really nice conversation
with the director of missions of how in the wake
of Jodie Foster and John Hinckley, you know, stalking her
around Yale And at this point Brook Shields was really
really famous. I was like, are you guys ready for
brook Shields to be you know, And we just had
a nice talk about that. And I never ended up
applying to Princeton because it would have been.
Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't even apply. Your dad didn't make you.
Speaker 1: He wanted me to. But I just, I mean, if
I there is no way I could have gotten in legitimately,
And if I had gotten in, it would have been bogus.
And if I had gotten in, I also would have
been I would have failed out within a year because
I was so immature. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3: So you know, I just so knowing all that, though,
you still went into with the kids and you still
have this attitude of like they need they kind of
need to go to college, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got that's on my main circuit. But I don't.
Speaker 3: It's just you try to fight against it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be I don't want to
be like my dad. My dad put so much in. Again,
he didn't mean too. It wasn't meant to be mean
or malicious. It was just he couldn't control himself. He's like,
this is your entire future will be determined.
Speaker 3: And the next was kind of mad that you didn't
get that you just went to Syracuse, right.
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean he was he accepted it.
Speaker 3: He remember that you also that you wanted to go
to Northwestern, right.
Speaker 1: And I didn't get my my application in un time.
But but no, I mean my dad he didn't take
any chip shots afterward because I think he figured that
I was cast there one way or the other. But
in when it was still, you know, to be decided,
he was just, you're gonna be if you don't do this,
you're gonna be a failure. You're gonna you know, you
just you're you're going to be a disaster. And so
he was just a lot of pressure for the last
two three years. And and my sister was a very
good student, but that didn't she got a lot of
pressure too. And so anyway, all of that's to say
I was really scared that that was in me and
I would do that with our kids. So I overcompensated
to really sort of trying to stay out of the
college conversations, which created a vacuum that you had to fill.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I did end up having to be the
heavy about the college stuff. I thought it was just
maybe an inch point that like, because Lynette and I
talk a lot about you know, Lynette had a really
challenging childhood with her mom and uh, you know, her
mom had mental illness and was just like really hard
on her and really strict. And I think she and
I both compensate for our childhoods by not wanting tension
with our kids and wanting to be our kids friends
and what I've always found kind of interesting, but it
works for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we lucked out.
Speaker 3: We lucked out in the fact that our we don't
really have a great balance between us, but we want
to step up. No neither one of us ever wants
to be the heavy. We both want to be the
most liked by our kids and the gentlest. I think
you do. I mean because I think that when push
comes to shove, I don't have I didn't have the
college bad experience behind me, so it didn't bother me
as much mine came. Mine was more like, Okay, this
is just about parent your fear of being really heavy
about college. Like, we balance each other sometimes in certain
things that don't trigger each other, right, Like, I guess
what I'm trying to say is I was able to
come down on Elbe a bit when she was just
I felt like, I felt like Elb the first year
and the second year was being avoidant because she didn't
want to disappoint herself. She didn't the first year. It
was just hard for her to like buckle down and
write the essays, and she was allergic to the pressure
of like people talking about it and people she just
was like, oh, I can't deal with it. Yeah, So
we both felt like she kind of gave up on
herself a little bit while her friends remained competitive. Lbe
got burnt out by high school. So by the time
she was trying to apply for colleges, she wasn't like
in a lot of clubs.
Speaker 1: She wasn't doing that what she was I mean, and
I've always said, I mean, she, you know, like so
many kids COVID was COVID hit at the end of
her freshman year. In the duration of her sophomore year,
and she was She came out of middle school as
a hardcore go getter, straight a's, and she largely kept
up the academic rigger through COVID and after but a
lot of the academics, you know, she didn't want to
do theater anymore. She did. She was the captain of
the freshman basketball team. You know, we both choke. I mean,
we used to love to go to the games. And
by the middle of COVID she's like, yeah, I don't
think I want to do that. Like we were crushed,
and she was right, but she gave she'd sort of
decelerated the extra curriculars, which are she would.
Speaker 3: Try new things, but like there you get these kids
that are real go getters these days, that are like
go internships and this and that. In my own five
o three c I'm like, oh, do you want to
go do like some volunteer work. Eh, yeah, no, thanks,
you know she but whatever the point was is we
were like, well, if you're going to get into a
good school, it's going to be essays. It's going to
be like grades and essays. And so we had to
kind of anyway. And then she got obviously everybody knows
the story, she didn't get into any of the schools
she wanted, which we were kind of like, okay, but
that was a little bit expected. Like, I mean, we
were surprised, but she wasn't really as competitive as some
of her friends. So then when the second year rolled
around again, she was scared and not wanting to, Like
I ended up having to be the person to go like, no,
you're going to write these essays? How are we? So
I don't know what that that kind of is like
you have taken a step back.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean they're a couple of I mean,
yet that's very much true the way you're describing it.
But it's also you know, you and I have talked
about this too, which is going from you know, my
scattered background to your scattered background. I am. You know,
if I start to on the occasions that I have,
you know, become the heavy. It's also a little bit
triggering for you because you had a very you know,
very difficult stepfather who was and so I think even
when I'm just trying to in measure be sort of
you're not going to do. I mean when I step
up and you know, am the disciplinarian, I think to
a degree it it kind of activates a little thing
in you and also in me. I'm like, okay, I
can almost see you looking at me like I'm your
step father a little bit. So I'm like I'm like okay.
So it's almost like I need to, you know, prep
you for going. You know, I'm about to go, you know,
growl at LB. Don't get mad at me for this.
I need to do this.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that, and this is an interesting conversation,
but I I hear what you're saying and I can
see that. But I also think that you have your
own internal thing about your dad. Oh yeah, and so
I think that you refrain, refrain, refrain, and then all
of a sudden you can go from zero to sixty
and then suddenly you're mad. And I'm like, well, hey, hey,
slow your role, because if you just walk into Albie's
room mad like, she's not going to have seen any
lead up to it.
Speaker 1: Well, the tire iron. When I walk in with a
tire iron, it's just for show. I'm not swinging that thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I like to get mad at her, and then
get mad at her again and then get I like
to get in until by the time I'm yelling, or
by the time I'm like what the hell is going
on with you? It's she knows that's coming. Whereas I
get worried that you're going to just walk in there
and be really mad and she's going to be like,
what what did I do?
Speaker 1: It's possible I don't know, but I mean again and
our kids, know, I mean, our kids can play us
a little bit where jumps. I mean, look at what
happened at Thanksgiving, what happened our friend who is a
works for the community college, and he was very instrumental
and you know, being a cheerleader for LB and getting
her through that middle shout out to Jeff, but he
really was a booster of you know, if you come
to you know, community college, we are great at vaulting
you into wherever you want to go and keep your
chin up. And he was so Anyway, having had that
success with ELB, he pivoted to the Twins and he
was talking to Sadie and he was asking Sadie what
she wanted to do. And I overheard Sadie going, well,
you know, I think what I'm going to do is
be a professional musician. And so I listened sort of,
I had my ear cocked to that. I was, you know,
within just across the room, and I was listening to her.
He was like, well, you know, you could do it,
and are you interested in the music business. She's like, well,
maybe not the music business. I just you know, I
want to be a touring musician, and I'm hearing that,
I'm going, Okay, yeah, that's that's that going to work out.
So I circled in later on and I you know,
I said, say so, I said, I love that for you,
but you're gonna have you know, you're definitely going to
have another plan other than being a rock star. That
can't be plan A.
Speaker 3: And then elbe I mean, then Sadie came to me
and she was like, Dad's pressuring me about college exactly.
Speaker 1: And then you came to me and you're like, I
heard you heard your pressured Sadie about college. I'm like, no,
I just told her she had to have a planned beach.
She couldn't be a rock star.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, But all right, we have so much more
for you on our Friday episode, which John seems to
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All right, thanks everybody, Thanks Calin, you're a parent. Now
I forget it's
Speaker 2: Letting.