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Speaker 1: Made destange o pay is sunny sund on, I haddasion.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: So what's up? Everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud.

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I know it sounds a little bit different. Did it

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sound different, Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: Well, it sounds different that you're opening the show.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is it jarring? Is it?

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Speaker 2: It's a little jarring?

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Speaker 3: You feel upset?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: It's okay. Everything's going to be okay because guess what.

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Lynette is not here today because remember last week when

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Sonny when she was talking about how Sonny hurt his

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ankle and he was going to have to be home.

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Well it turns out it's fractured. Poor kid fractured his ankle.

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Now she has to do a walk in with an

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orthopedist with him because he's leaving town on Wednesday to

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go to New York with Adam. So she had to

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get this done today and she couldn't come in. But

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guess who could come in? My husband John Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Oh the excitement you can just you can hear

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people going, You can hear this size going. Oh hell no, everybody's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be excited. You haven't been on the show

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in like a couple years. I think a couple of years, right.

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Speaker 2: No, he was on recently, Yeah, recently last year? Yeah,

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I think I think this year? Was it this year?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Was I on last week? I might have been on

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last week?

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Speaker 3: Maybe he did? He did come in? Didn't he did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But you know what, well, actually no, I came

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in last year, but I wasn't. I just came in

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to pick you up when your foot was broken.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you did? Do you did guest on

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the show?

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Speaker 2: It's possible, Yeah, no, you did.

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Speaker 1: I have no memory. I mean I come from a

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family of Alzheimer's, so I'm not reliable.

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Speaker 3: Oh now you had to bring it there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's true.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say hello

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to our people first. That's what we do. You know

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how it goes. We got Dick Frolicker, Kelly Laddie do

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Katie's rolling on e Nikki come on, call your girls.

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Elizabeth Williamson has a lot of kids, and Rita roxaman

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or Bassinette, Polly we love your pancakes, and Valerie hits

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it out of the park. Katerina make sure you check

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your molar. John knows he gets it. You've seen me

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lose a lot of molars.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell, yep.

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Speaker 3: Gabby and Missy they had an interesting weekend. We should

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have them call in. Tell us what went sideways. Let's

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see Ishan Vashpe so cute. Rebecca Lubinju really cute. Kelly

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Brant She's not your amp, but she'll take you to

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hip hop class. Alicia Ascalante from the city of Alvante.

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Leslie is still coughing. Sarah Stefano, she's our Paisano. Aaron,

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you know you know what you are. Jennifer, get up.

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Sandra's not easy being green and Jacob, we love you

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you and your growley self.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. Everybody here. Everybody had had a weekend,

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had a weekend. Caitlin, I say, we start with you,

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all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had to push all my pond work onto Saturday.

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I love working on weekends because Friday night was like

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a Christmas event at the kids' school. I never know

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what these things are.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 2: Amy just says, hey, we're working this event. It's a

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Christmas thing. I go, all right, fine, So we get

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there and I'm like like Okay, so I've done I've

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done two events there. The first one was like a

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big carnival the whole parking lot. They had games, they

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had uh you know, slides, jump houses, food, big barbecue.

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trigger treating, but they decked out the backs of trunk

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trunk what do they call it trunk retreat something like that. Yeah,

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they had all the cars decorated, this big thing and

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this one. I get there and we get there twenty

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minutes early and they're still like hanging the lights.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: And there's three games and then just food and I'm

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like Amy, what what is this? And she's like, Oh,

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it's just meant for the kids to come and hang out.

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Speaker 3: Kids are notoriously not good hanger outers. Yeah right, they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: That's why we invented the iPhone. You just go on

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their screen and not be disappointed.

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Speaker 3: There should be a little screen center where they could

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sit down and like check out an iPad and just

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do their own thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be a big Christmas event,

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Christmas thing, right. No, there was like three games.

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Speaker 3: There was like a band, a fire truck.

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Speaker 1: Is everything carnival based, because shouldn't there be like a

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Christmas pageant or a holiday pageant?

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Speaker 2: Would think? So, oh, I thought, that's what this is

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gonna be. It's gonna be a big Christmas party like

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Speaker 1: You can't have three carnivals in three months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: You can exhaust the carnies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like your school shot their wide on Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did. And I don't know, there's just there

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wasn't really anything to do here. Like I said, there's

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three games. There's like a cookie making station, it food,

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but whatever. I'm there just to volunteer to get my

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hours in. So they at first she's like, oh, you're

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just gonna be a floater if I need anybody. I

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was like, great, I can just sit down.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then finally she goes, no, the person for the

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ring toss game didn't show up, so you go do

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the ring toss game. And so it's these like it's

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kind of like you know, like a like a pool

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floaty like that material but like harder, but it's that

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kind of material, and it's you know those are the rings,

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and there are these crappy like reindeer antlers, and you

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got to throw them onto the first off. These rings

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are so cheap that within the first ten minutes they

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just start breaking. Kids are throwing them, they land on

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the ground, they just breaking half. I go, oh shit, okay,

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and yeah, about twenty minutes into my shift, a guy

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walks over. He goes, hey, I'm here to I'm here

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to help another parent like me, Like, I don't know

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what to do. I'm like, I don't really have anything

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for you to do. Just stand there.

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Speaker 3: He's like, hey, I'm ring tusk guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like they've stuck me over here to help. And

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I go okay, And so I'm running the thing and

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he's just standing there the whole time doing nothing, which

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is fine. There's nothing for him to do. So I go.

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you gotta go, you gotta go tell them to get

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some other ones. So, yeah, for an hour and a half,

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Speaker 3: And just don't leave me hanging. Did he go and

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get more rings?

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Speaker 1: He did?

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Speaker 3: Or did he just wander off? And yeah, he get

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stuck at like an eggnog station.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just.

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Speaker 1: Go to the habit and get onion rings and that'll.

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Speaker 2: It took him like twenty minutes, but eventually a lady

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came back with some duct tape and it was like, here,

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let's just tape them back together. Oh Jesus, they just

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yet duct taped them back together. And uh I was like, yeah,

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I was one of three games. There's a little little

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punch card that you give the kids. I was like,

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You get on this far one, it's two points. But

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you know me, at these events, I'm just handing out

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the punches. I don't give a fuck whether you get

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on the antlers or not on the antlers, I'm gonna

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punch the shit out of your card. I'm giving you

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extra ring tosses. And I think a lot of the

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kids caught on too. They knew that I was just

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giving out the punches because they just kept coming back

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and coming back. The love you yeah, oh yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: See you volunteering at an event, they make a b

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live kal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and so uh yeah, I was very freely handing

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Speaker 1: Well you're veried delete how many hours did you.

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Speaker 2: Get hour and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's not a.

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Speaker 3: Lot like fakes dead.

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Speaker 1: What's the quote was?

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Speaker 2: Amy was doing an hour and a half too, So

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we got three hours total.

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Speaker 3: How many did you need for the year? Fifty?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it was two hours. I think it's two hours.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I think it's like thirty. What's thirty

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or forty per family? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of teeth did they put it in?

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or shamed or something?

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Speaker 2: Now you oh, you have to pay money. Oh and

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by the way, I already paid money, so I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, pay the money and you don't

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have the fundraise. Oh, but you still have to volunteer.

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Speaker 3: How much can I ask how much it is to

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not have to volunteer?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember, but it's it's not a small it's

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not a small amount. It's enough to go, like, all right,

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let's do volunteering. Like it's like at least a thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Probably paid four hundred. Yeah, i'd pay four hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand, No, I'd probably show up at some events.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. That's like work Ring Toss in the twelve hundreds.

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If you were like really rich, you could go and

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you could pay the church for your sins, so you

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wouldn't have to atone. It's kind of just simplified version

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of that, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there is a church at the school,

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so I'm kind of see it's all it's still paying

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the church with my time.

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Speaker 1: It's still it's it's on the operating system from eight

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hundred years ago. Yeah, it doesn't change.

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Speaker 3: Weigh in on this, like, do you feel because we

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don't have that anymore. Although I do a lot of volunteering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a guilt volunteer. You volunteer for everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I do. But in elementary school it was required. Yeah,

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although we didn't get charged if you didn't do it,

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honor system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get that side eye.

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Speaker 3: Yes, do you remember any volunteering that you did do.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember a lot of ourlunteering that you did.

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I did. I did campus clean up A bunch of

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for campus clean up days on the weekend because that

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was easier. And you didn't I mean it was it

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was manual labor, but you didn't have you didn't have

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like a very upset kid who you had to the

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happiness of their day didn't depend on me doing the

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right thing. I'm like, I'll just you know, rake a

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bed out. No kid's going to be upset because I didn't,

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you know, do the ring toss replace the rings.

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Speaker 3: Also, he couldn't volunteer on like regular school days because

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you know, he couldn't pass a live scan. But that's

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that's a story.

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Speaker 1: That is hurtful. That's defamation, calling my lawyer.

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Speaker 3: So then it was over. Did the kids have fun there?

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part too, was you know, I was in charge of

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the whole punchers. So I just got a card, punched

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all ten holes and gave it to Island Blake. Here

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you go go get a toy. Is that yeah, it's

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just you know, hey, the guy that knows what's up.

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Speaker 1: They're in the system. Kids. Yeah, have you shown them

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Good Fellas yet?

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Speaker 2: No? That's uh, that's next.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of good little lessons, and particularly

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Speaker 2: Half of that, they're starting to get old enough now

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to where they can watch, like, you know, real live

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action movies. So it's actually kind of a bummer because

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it's Christmas and I want to show them Christmas movies.

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I want to show them like Home Alone and stuff,

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and all they want to watch is Bluey and this

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show called Tots, which are not Christmas themed at all.

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It's the only shows they'll watch. I'm like, hey, let's

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watch Christmas. No Blue, we want blue Christmas. Let's watch Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And the kids shows have changed, haven't they.

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Speaker 2: Blue is a big one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See that makes me sad.

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Speaker 3: There's one called what's that one that uh, I asked

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you about like a couple of years ago, because all.

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Speaker 2: The Coco melon Coca.

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Speaker 3: Melon is but we we were too late for Coco melan.

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Speaker 1: We were late on that. But it's now that defunding

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PBS is is nigh is where you know, the probably

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PBS will be defunded, So now everybody's like, Okay, your

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kid will never grow up having any alternative to cocoa melon,

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So welcome to the impact of society.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pokemon is the worst, but that's for Yeah, that's

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for like little kids like one to three. Yeah, like

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Blake might still get a kick out of it, but they're,

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like I said, they're moving on to like live action movies.

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Speaker 3: There's this what about Elf? Are they too young for Elf?

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Speaker 2: I hope not. I would love to show them Mouf

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that's like one, It's my favorite Christmas movie. But I

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have a feeling that they might be a little bit

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young for Elf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a lot of I mean, Elf is

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ostensibly a you know, a kid's movie, but it's got

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a lot of sort of dark undertones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the kids don't They're not going to get

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any double there. But and Will Ferrell's like a big goofy.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Like they might like that, but I can't even

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get them to watch anything other than their cartoons.

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Speaker 1: Like, but I mean I know a lot of the kids,

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I mean, do they still have does Nick Junior still broadcast?

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't even have, Like we just got rid

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of our cable and so we have we have YouTube

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TV now. Oh I think Nick Nickelodeon is on there.

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Speaker 1: But they've got I mean, so many cable channels are

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just going out of business in the streaming implosion.

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Speaker 2: And they pretty much just exclusively run SpongeBob on it.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think when I had when I had cable, I

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would flip by it and it seemed like it was

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always SpongeBob and like Blue, they played blueye on ye

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like Nick.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's an MTV network, and I know for the

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last five years, MTV has played ridiculousness probably you know,

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twenty hours a day, every day.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean they've just you know, pretty much given

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up on live programming.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how MTV works anymore, because yes,

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they only play ridiculousness. But I've come to realize, and

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I haven't looked into it, that MTV is somehow producing

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all of the Taylor Sheridan shows. Wow, you know, like

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the Yellowstones, the that's crazy, like all those tailor I

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always see, like MTV Entertainment. At the end of it,

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I go, how did MTV get into like Paramount and working.

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Speaker 1: With well, Paramount owned the MTV Networks, which is why,

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you know, they've been kind of defunding them for years.

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But I mean I worked for VH one for a

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couple of years, right around the turn of the turn

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of the century where I'm old, but around around the

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two thousand and two thousand and one. I mean, if

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they just had you know, four buildings chock full of

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people in edit bays going day and night, and then

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just to see it just gone, I mean, I don't

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even know if this is VH one even in existence.

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I've looked.

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Speaker 2: I don't know cables.

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Speaker 1: I'm old.

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Speaker 3: Remember when I was doing perenal Discretion, Nick Junior was

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still kind of a big thing, and that's why there

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was a huge outcry that at the end of the

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day it was cool. Well, the problem was is it

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was supposed to turn into a mom's network after dark.

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So it was supposed to be like Nick at night,

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but so it was supposed to be like after ten

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pm would be like edgy mom shows. But the problem

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was in some time zones it wasted like seven pm

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well first of all, and some Yeah, so you had

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people that were like, all of a sudden, here's this

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lady talking about penis, penis, penis, vagina, like sex with.

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Speaker 1: Your hands, like my little Dakota heard the word vagina.

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And then the letters started flying.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, and then people went nuts, and then

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there were news stories and then remember I accidentally responded

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to a guy and oh yeah, I got in trouble

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with the network because some guy had gone on like

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the new Oh no, some guy was complaining to me

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wrote me this message. So I wrote him back and

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he was like, it's disgusting what you're doing. And I

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was like, hey, I totally get it, but like I didn't.

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We didn't. I don't. I was not aware that we

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were going to be airing at seven pm or whatever.

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I responded. He went to the news with that, and

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then they ran a news story saying that the one

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of the hosts of the show responded and oh, Nickelodeon

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was not happy with me. I got a call from

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the network basically saying, please don't do that. They do

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not respond a.

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Speaker 1: PR department, Please don't freelance, particularly Reverend Billy Jack from Arkansas.

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He he's got a bone to pick. Let's let the

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professionals deal with it.

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Speaker 3: That was like ten years ago. People love them some

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Nick Junior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I was a big Nickelodeon kid growing up.

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That was pretty much what I watched exclusively. There's a

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little Cartoon network shows, but yeah, a lot of Nickelodeon.

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Speaker 1: Grown up You probably are, I mean you're probably at

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the beginning of the generation that ended with our kids.

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I mean, what what what were you? What were you watching?

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Speaker 2: SpongeBob was okay, yeah, that came about. That came. I

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was there right at the beginning of SpongeBob, so that

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was that was a big one. There was, oh, some

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of the old shows. There was cat Dog that shew.

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It was like half of it was a dog and

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the other half was a cow.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, they could get away with just God, why didn't

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I pitch that? Oh? Every I mean I remember when

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they when Xander and and Sadie really got into a

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lot of those shows, and I mean it was just

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like everybody who was in animation with you know, I

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mean they had to be doing massive amounts of acid

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because it was like, what was the one that had

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it was like breadmakers or something, and it was just

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completely nonlinear and they were just there was no logic

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that and you know, they'd changed shape and there was

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no narrative story and it was just like are my

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kids just dosing and lovingness? Or I was so confused

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and they loved it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean I

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I remember going over to someone's house was when our

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kids were like six, the younger ones, and her kid

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was watching some show that was what was the one

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with the hand? Remember was it Ubie?

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Speaker 1: Oh god?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one that was just a hand that would like

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talk to you.

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Speaker 1: But that was like, yeah, okay, I can understand that.

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I mean, I remember.

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Speaker 3: Watching I know what you're talking about. The bread.

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Speaker 1: I can't it. It was. It was awful, but I

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mean I just I would look at it and be

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like and they are laughing their heads off, and then

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they'd be, you know, repeating catchphrases later in the day

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and I'm just like, do you can you tell me

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what that was about. They're like no, I'm like, okay, well,

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I mean back in the old day, you'd have like

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a nice little we'd watch Chuck Jones or you know,

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Loony Tunes. It's like, okay, here's the conceit. You know,

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the coyote just really wants to get that road runner,

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and you know you had a hook, and they're just like, Okay,

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you've got something that looks like a bird and something

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looks like a you know, a squirrel worm hybrid and

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they drive around in a sports car and yell at people.

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It's like, I don't understand, but the kids loved it,

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and I guess you know, yep, they're gonna be repercussions

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for that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. So John, you took the kids to

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go do something on your own on Friday night?

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Speaker 1: Phrase that on your own? I gave you sedatives in

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the night off. No, we we actually went to the

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first the kids first real I mean, they've they've been

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to a lot of local concerts with bands that were,

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pay to play nights. But they'd never really been to

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a real name show, and we had tried. We tried

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to go see Food Fighters and sadly Taylor Hawkins died

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and tickets were like fourteen hundred bucks a seat. Right, Yeah,

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a similar music taste to me. I don't think I

471
00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,480
forced it on them, but they just have borrowed a

472
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960
lot of my music. But anyway, long story short, we

473
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,599
went to see Dinosaur Junior, which was their.

474
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,759
Speaker 3: First real do you know about band Kaln I do not.

475
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: They were big in the nineties, like so many bands,

476
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,920
but they're a big alternative band. They used to tour

477
00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,759
with The Cure a lot, to the degree that they

478
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,200
now close with just like having a metal version of

479
00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:58,319
just like Hevin. They's sort of a post punk alternative band,

480
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,279
not really metal, but they're led by a guy named

481
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,279
Jay Mascus who's like a brilliant, weird guitar player. But

482
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,359
we got tickets about three months ago and it was

483
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,839
a place called the bell Weather, which is kind of

484
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,119
new that's downtown, but it was their their first show,

485
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,319
so it was very exciting and we went and it

486
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,079
was general admission, so I think that was kind of

487
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,599
new to them, which and you know, I'm from you know,

488
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,519
hundreds of shows. I've got my own general admission strategy.

489
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:31,200
But it was kind of interesting because I had never

490
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,640
Sadie is five foot flat and and that's a different

491
00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:38,960
It's a little different when you go to a show

492
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:41,119
and you've got to and you've got all of these

493
00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:45,480
you know, forty year old dads and flannel and they're

494
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,880
all six feet and then you've got your five foot

495
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,839
daughter who you're trying to find a visionality for.

496
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: But right, and it's a weird age because it's she's

497
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,480
too old and too heavy to like put on your shoulders.

498
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: I tried. At one point, I tried to lift her

499
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,799
up and I got the dirt. Just look. Xander tried

500
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:03,680
to lift her up and she turned around and almost

501
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,480
punched him. And then I'm like, well, maybe she'll let

502
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,920
me lift her up, and she just I wanted to see.

503
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,599
Speaker 3: So I thought you met you got dirty looks from

504
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:10,079
other people.

505
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, from her, she was like don't you. I mean,

506
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,799
Sadie's very you know, she doesn't want anybody to draw

507
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:20,720
any attention. And she was just so. But Xander actually

508
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,880
was great. Xander was like, okay, I'm gonna be a big

509
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,839
brother here, and he kind of after a couple of songs,

510
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,359
he just started to lead block. He saw a couple

511
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720
of kind of drunk bros push in front of her

512
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:35,279
and and he was like, all right, that's and so

513
00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:38,279
he pushed back and went around them and kind of,

514
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,200
you know, I thought you know, I'll be the dad,

515
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960
and I'm you know, I'm the show benner. And but

516
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,319
Xander's like, all right, we've had enough, and he sort

517
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,440
of plowed his way to the middle. And after that

518
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,240
it was great. But you know, it was it was

519
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:51,880
it was a lot of fun. I mean, they loved

520
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,960
the show. They you know, sort of teach him, how okay,

521
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,680
we're this close to the amps, put in your ear

522
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,640
plugs if you ever want to hear again. So of course, I,

523
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:04,640
being you know, now worried dad, I took a pocket

524
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,279
full of your plugs. It's something I never thought i'd do.

525
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,759
But anyhow, so that was in you know, it was

526
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,519
one of these shows where it started out it was

527
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,799
it was a little slow at the beginning. They were

528
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:19,119
redoing an album that was thirty released thirty years ago,

529
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:20,759
and it was, you know, it was okay, and then

530
00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,279
suddenly it just got great. They brought out Kim Gordon,

531
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:27,680
who's kind of a famous punk rock star from the

532
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:31,000
seventies and eighties. She founded Sonic Youth, and she came

533
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,920
out and did iggy pop and it was just suddenly,

534
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,279
from that point on it was fantastic and the kids

535
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,920
were having a great time, and they were buzzing, and

536
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,240
because it was their first show, you know, I plunked

537
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960
down and bought the merch at the merch table at

538
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,920
a show, which.

539
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,319
Speaker 3: Is I know, but I love it. But they were

540
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,880
so excited, Yeah they.

541
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: Were, they were high coming back. It was great. But yeah,

542
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,319
I want to tell you, a T shirt, even a

543
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,720
even an indie show, it's going to be forty bucks apiece.

544
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,119
But it was fun. You got to get a shirt

545
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,640
from your first Yeah, you a shirt?

546
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean, should you have secretly bought the shirt and

547
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,200
then we could have wrapped it and given it to

548
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,359
them for Christmas?

549
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that's too much thinking, That's.

550
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: What my brain was.

551
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,519
Speaker 1: But Xander needed to wear it for the next night anyway.

552
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,799
Speaker 3: Yes, well that so it was fun. I came home,

553
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,799
like really in a great mood.

554
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,279
Speaker 1: Well was bought before the show, but.

555
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, it's their first show show.

556
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: What am I going to deny them?

557
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,799
Speaker 3: I feel like I've taken them to some stuff.

558
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've taken them to yacht like yacht rock cover bands,

559
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,640
not the same thing.

560
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Xander's got a couple of times to Queen.

561
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:47,759
Speaker 1: Not real, Queen Queen Nation, Queen Nation, Thanks.

562
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: So similar to the real band.

563
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: He's also been to a Foo Fighter's cover band in thousand.

564
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,680
Oh true, that was that was funny. I've got pictures

565
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200
from that. Most It's like most of the crowd there,

566
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,960
I think were probably in a militia. They were not young,

567
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,960
They're not Foo Fighters fans. They had a lot of

568
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,519
you know, anti government tattoos. It was a kind of

569
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,599
a unique little.

570
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: Slice of life centers.

571
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 2: Oh.

572
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: It was definitely a lot of three percenters there, but

573
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,680
and a little pod of like sixty eight year old groupies.

574
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,920
It was amazing. I mean they had bubba wings and

575
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,079
they were fighting for the band and it was it

576
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,400
was quite a slice of life.

577
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: It's really sad, now, Kaitlin, this is you don't have

578
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,839
to listen to this. This is not your life yet.

579
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,759
But I'll go to a band that I'm super excited

580
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,200
about that you know that I feel like it's still

581
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,559
nineteen eighty four, you know, I'll go I would go

582
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,759
to see I don't know who did I go to see?

583
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Did you go?

584
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 3: Stario Speedwag Ario Speedwagon Sticks and lover Boy? Yeah, best

585
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,039
concert of my life. But you go to something like

586
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:55,839
that and you look around and You're like, what are

587
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,039
all these like literal senior citizens doing here? And then

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,440
you talk to somebody and they're like, oh, yeah, I

589
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,480
was born in like sixty eight or whatever, and you're like,

590
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,279
oh shit, I'm they're looking at me the same way.

591
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:08,880
They're like, look, who's that old lady.

592
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: Most of the shows I go to are I mean,

593
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,079
it's it's all and I mean it's one layer, but

594
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,640
beyond that it's old. It's it's forty late forties to

595
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:25,640
late fifties dudes. But also just like me, sort of

596
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880
not quite coping with their age. They're all in Chuck

597
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,000
Taylor's flannel shirts concert tees from other concerts you don't

598
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,519
want to wear.

599
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: The right they know better, they know better that.

600
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: But and you know, and it's just these guys all

601
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,400
think they're, you know, twenty eight and they're fifty eight,

602
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,440
and they're all in Nile and so am I and

603
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,640
we're all wearing Chuck Taylors and you know now and

604
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,240
then you'll pull them aside, go do you have urch

605
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,400
supports in those ideas? But it's the only I mean,

606
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000
oh god, you can't. You can't wear Chuck Taylors and

607
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,599
you're in you're late middle age. Without an art support

608
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,079
of your back will kill you. But so you can't.

609
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,799
You can only be about three quarters into day.

610
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,599
Speaker 3: Kalen's like doing other things right now.

611
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, Kaylyn has sensible shoes on.

612
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:13,839
Speaker 3: Kaylann's wearing pajama bottoms. I gets it, he gets it.

613
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,279
Speaker 2: Christmas given up.

614
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: There, Christmas. I was kind of bummed when I came in.

615
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,000
I told him, I said, I wanted to wear my

616
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,759
little flannel Jamie pants, but I figured it was a

617
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,799
little too casual, so I put on real pants.

618
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:28,839
Speaker 3: And too casual for what a comfortable You're all comfortable.

619
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I missed the memo. I'm sorry.

620
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: I know. Lynette and I went through a phase where

621
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,119
we were like, we should work going to be on camera,

622
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,519
perhaps there's clips, we should dress up a little bit,

623
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:39,720
do our makeup, and then we were like that lasted

624
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:43,400
like yes, they're like, I'm tired.

625
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: We should have a sketch artist.

626
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,119
Speaker 3: That's funny. Well, the thing is that you have given

627
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,359
our kids good taste in music. And speaking of that

628
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:01,680
last a couple of nights ago. So you know, Kaylan,

629
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,680
I look at Kaylan, but the audience doesn't know that look,

630
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,319
I bring Kaylen into our conversation. We had. You know

631
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,240
how our kids are in this music lab program. Yeah,

632
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,160
and they are. They're all divided into bands, and they

633
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,240
had one of their big shows. Now remember that. I'm

634
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,079
going to just tell a little bit about the fact

635
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:25,720
that we already had that fall thing where I complained

636
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,759
endlessly about the looking for items for gift baskets stressed

637
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,359
harvest fest. Yes, so this was just our it was

638
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000
called it's called a club We don't say the name

639
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,680
of the school, but it was a club night and

640
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,039
it was so all the bands were performing and I

641
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,119
was in charge of it myself. So I just did

642
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,319
the baskets myself. And I got to say, when you're

643
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:50,240
not including other people, you'd think it would be harder,

644
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,160
it's easier. It's actually easier to just go like I

645
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640
got it, let me just arrange, let me figure it out.

646
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,680
I didn't have nearly the amount of stress that I

647
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
had when there was a lot of in the kitchen,

648
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,799
you know, giving me items and suggestions and you know,

649
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,359
telling me who I had to think. It was like,

650
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,039
I got I got it, let me just do it,

651
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,880
And I did it. And thank you to Fern candle

652
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,799
the kit. I did a candle basket and it was

653
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,799
such a big, a big one. You should just know that, Kelsey.

654
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Everybody wanted their their candle basket. Did the wax melter

655
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,599
and wax melts. You guys, this is an awesome carle.

656
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: You have the basic basket.

657
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: The basic basket. What do you mean if you.

658
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: Like candles, you're sort of like the ultimate basic bitch, which.

659
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: There are tons of basic bitches. There's a lot of

660
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680
basic bitches that wanted that wanted the candle basket. A

661
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,319
guy won it, which was funny. Okay, So I had

662
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,759
gift cards that I had people donate some gift cards

663
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:49,319
and we had a bunch of gift cards. We had

664
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,359
a candle basket. We had it doesn't really matter. The

665
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,640
point is it was a really great night and it

666
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,359
was pretty low stress. The kids did great. And I

667
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,680
was going to say that it's funny because our kids

668
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480
when they perform with their bands, they like a lot

669
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:07,599
of like retro music.

670
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,039
Speaker 1: Oh the whole that whole group does, which is I mean,

671
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,599
I was shocked. One group did the Dead Milkman, which

672
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,759
was you know, a real, very very niche band or

673
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,319
I'm sorry niche band from the eighties and nineties. Just

674
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,319
I mean and suddenly, yeah, what was the song they did?

675
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:26,119
Punk rock Girl?

676
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, punk rock Girl? Do you know that song?

677
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: No, it's you. If you didn't grow up between nineteen

678
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,920
eighty six and nineteen ninety two, you never would have

679
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,440
heard of them.

680
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,559
Speaker 2: I was born in ninety two.

681
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,359
Speaker 1: Here you go. Thank you for me. I feel even older.

682
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,000
I have sneakers that are six seven years older than

683
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,799
you that I still weary. But yeah, I mean I

684
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,480
went to see this band with one hundred and fifty

685
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,480
people and you know, nineteen eighty eight and suddenly they're

686
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720
doing it was kind of shocking.

687
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, really cool songs. And Xander's band did I Want

688
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,599
the Smith Smith's Yeah, And Sadie's band did the Cure Cure?

689
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200
I mean, they were really like they have a lot

690
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,279
of eighties taste. I sometimes play the kids songs and

691
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:11,079
go like this could be a good song, and they'll

692
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,440
be like, yeah, heard it. The kids will sing along.

693
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Just so many eighties songs because of how do you

694
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,839
know the I'm not just talking about yacht rock. Yes,

695
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,039
they've make a yacht rock because they know all the

696
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,759
words to Brandy or a fine girl. But they also

697
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,599
know like cool songs that I listened to in high school.

698
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: No, they, I mean most kids these days. I mean

699
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,519
just because I don't know whether it's the algorithm throws

700
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:39,400
stuff at them or you know, Spotify and Apple Music.

701
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
But you can throw anything from the mid anything that's

702
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,839
sort of in anybody from twenty to seventies.

703
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:49,759
Speaker 3: You know.

704
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:51,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they know a lot of big band,

705
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,079
but they know anything from the Beatles to the current day.

706
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:56,799
You can just throw something on They're like, oh, I

707
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,440
know that. It's like, how do you know that? Where

708
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,240
does your friend reference come in to know the Raspberries from?

709
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,759
You know, nineteen seventy eight.

710
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,519
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy it's.

711
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,119
Speaker 1: The algorithm, but they all, I mean they all know

712
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,400
all the songs, not just our kids, any kids their

713
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,679
age do.

714
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: So you're saying, it's al. That's what Lynette and I

715
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,280
call it. It's al.

716
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: It's al yeah, rhythm, Yeah, AL.

717
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,119
Speaker 3: Who knows what we want for Christmas? Who knows what

718
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,760
we're thinking about? Who knows the exact kind of like

719
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,400
fuzzy sweatpants we want to buy for ourselves?

720
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,199
Speaker 1: I'm to being our future lord and master. Yes, Yes,

721
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,039
right now, it's the it's the fun face. But pretty

722
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:34,880
soon when you.

723
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: Think something and you go think about.

724
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,599
Speaker 1: A song and it's on Amazon.

725
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: Yes exactly, and Al's like, oh you want you want

726
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,760
more of that?

727
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,159
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you. I think I

728
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:50,000
told Xander. But yesterday on my on my Facebook feed,

729
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,320
yes I'm old. I watched Facebook or look at Facebook.

730
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,159
They were there were two pictures like in within ten

731
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:01,360
hours of people wearing dinosaur junior shirts. There was a

732
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,079
picture of Rachel what's your name from Mean Girls and

733
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Adams Rachel mccadams in a movie from ninety or from

734
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,639
two thousand and five, wearing a dinosaur junior shirt. And

735
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:12,599
then there was do you think.

736
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: She was even wearing a dinosaur junior shirt or do

737
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,599
you think a I put a dinosaur junior shirt on her?

738
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,199
They because maybe somebody maybe you thought or talked about

739
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Mean Girls and Dinosaur Junior and they're like, here you go.

740
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: It could be I mean either way, but it's it was.

741
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,280
It was I'm just like, what the hell? But you know,

742
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,519
that's the world we live in now.

743
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,199
Speaker 3: It's the world we live in. A world just again,

744
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320
stuff you want, just just you think something and it

745
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,440
appears they for sure our phones are listening to us.

746
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Oh without a doubt.

747
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of phone, you know what, let's

748
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,079
let me tell you before before we move on. I'm

749
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,559
going to talk about something. You're gonna be excited about

750
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,760
this that we're that you're here on a day we're

751
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,000
doing an ad for one of your favorite things, which

752
00:35:59,039 --> 00:35:59,480
is via.

753
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.

754
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,559
Speaker 3: Yes, so okay, I almost don't even need the paper

755
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:04,880
for this.

756
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: We tell them, oh, this is legitimate. I get too legitimate,

757
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,639
I have to say. I mean, I just this morning

758
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,440
you heard a psy come out of me because I

759
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:21,480
finished the Revive gummies, which you know, I was like, Okay,

760
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,360
I'm coming on the podcast. I want to be relaxed.

761
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,800
I'll take a Revive before coffee and Revive they'll kind

762
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,199
of fight with each other, but yeah, I literally will eat.

763
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,159
I have different gummies for different parts of the day.

764
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,440
I have a sleep gummy. It's it's kind of sad

765
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:39,159
because I know that, you know, I'm very predictable and

766
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,679
basic that way, but I love them.

767
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,599
Speaker 3: So I take the ones that are CBD only and

768
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,920
I use the ones for sleep. I like the zen

769
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,760
and tell back me up. On this. It really changed.

770
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,480
I was going I went through a phase where I

771
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,079
was not sleeping through yeah, and then I would just

772
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,880
be wide awake. The Zen Gummies changed the game for me,

773
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,239
and I was sleeping through the night. And then and

774
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,280
I've re ordered a few times again it's seven.

775
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: You'd be sawing logs yeah, true.

776
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And then you'd have been taking lately the

777
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,119
ones that have a little thch, a smaller dose of

778
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,559
THHC and really finding that it's not making you too high.

779
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,280
It'sh no, a small jose.

780
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: It puts me to sleep in forty five minutes. I'm not,

781
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,559
you know, lying awake looking at my phone until one

782
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,280
in the morning, and it puts me to sleep in

783
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,400
about half an hour. And I wake up. I don't

784
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,280
wake up at five or six. I wake up at

785
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,519
seven thirty or eight. It's a it's a guy.

786
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,559
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787
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788
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789
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790
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791
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792
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your every day with Via and that was good. I was, Oh,

793
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,679
what was I going to say?

794
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Phones listening to you?

795
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,199
Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna say that, John and I true story.

796
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,159
We we we finally got new phones. Do you see,

797
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,079
look I upgraded. We've got new phones. Here's here's the

798
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,159
embarrassing part, Tom.

799
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we update our kids' phones like every

800
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,400
two years, or with LB when one of her friends

801
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,639
throws her in a pool with her phone, like every year.

802
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,840
So our our iPhone budget is strictly aimed at our kids.

803
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,199
So that leaves on our part. We I think we've

804
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,760
been six years. I mean our iPhone still had a

805
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,239
crank on this.

806
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: I think eight years. The guy told me my phone

807
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,920
was eight years old.

808
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,679
Speaker 1: I think he was kind of. I think it was

809
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,800
six or seven years.

810
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: But well, I had an iPhone ten.

811
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my phone's my iPhone still had a party line.

812
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,599
I'd be like, give me Madison six. But yeah, ours

813
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,719
were so old they couldn't even you couldn't even display

814
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,280
like a long if I wanted to read, like a

815
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960
New York Times article would get halfway down. It would

816
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,800
be too much memory just to load an article. It

817
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,079
was sad. Yeah, pathetic.

818
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,079
Speaker 3: My battery was dying, like you know, i'd have two

819
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,800
hours later it would be like you're a twenty five percent.

820
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,159
I was like, what is happening?

821
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: And have you ever confessed on air to your addiction

822
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,360
to bejeweled in threes?

823
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 3: Yes? I have, right, Caitlin, Yeah.

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: Because I mean she will literally, I mean we could

825
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,280
be watching the Most Taught documentary, or she could be

826
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,960
watching the super Bowl and she'll be you know, she'll

827
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,079
be doing threes and I'll be like, look look at that.

828
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,559
Look at No. She'll grudgingly put it aside for a

829
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:29,000
second more.

830
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,519
Speaker 2: But now I likes to look at her phone when

831
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,440
oh yeah, oh.

832
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not much better. I mean, I but

833
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,400
I can watch a show and just watch the show.

834
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he shows off what he's like, look

835
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,599
at me, like not looking at my phone. I'm watching

836
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:47,400
the show, Like if you have to congratulate yourself on that, and.

837
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,599
Speaker 1: Then look at me, I'm one screen. Yeah it's so sad.

838
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:55,079
Speaker 2: But that's like my barometer for how good what I'm

839
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,880
watching is. Yeah, so if I tend to go to

840
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480
my phone, then whatever I'm watching, I'm like and this

841
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,920
isn't very good. See that I think that can keep

842
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,840
my attention through the whole thing. I'm like, Okay, this

843
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,159
is a good movie, this is a good show.

844
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 1: Could you could put the best, most you know, engrossing

845
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,880
thing and she will still be on. I mean, she

846
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,840
can be watching a cult doc which is sort of

847
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,119
the top of the pyramid. In fact, you were You're

848
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,320
watching the Nexium doc last night. Yeah, and still you're

849
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,800
just like, well, here's the thing.

850
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,079
Speaker 3: You know how people will say like, oh, that meeting

851
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:29,639
could have been an email. My barometer is like, could

852
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,119
that TV show have been a podcast? Because if so,

853
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,480
if it's a podcast, then I can easily be doing

854
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,800
two things at once. Right then, I then it's fine

855
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,920
to be playing but Jeweled or threes on my phone

856
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,519
while I'm listening to a podcast. But suddenly you put

857
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,840
pictures on the screen, and now, oh, I gotta focus

858
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440
on the screen and see what lure And a lot

859
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:52,039
of times it's just a person talking. So then my

860
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,199
brain goes like, do I need to John, get off

861
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,519
your phone? You're literally on a podcast right now?

862
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,199
Speaker 1: You know why because and I will here, Sadie just

863
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,840
texted me in the middle of.

864
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,199
Speaker 3: A college I know, I already know that Oh okay.

865
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Well, she's in the middle of a college session. She's like,

866
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,960
did either of you graduate from a four year college?

867
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

868
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: So, I just she doesn't know that you went to

869
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,280
a four year college currently not.

870
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Wow, that's wow, that's interesting.

871
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: That is I should wear more. I've got right now

872
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,880
on my head. I've got a Syracuse hat, but it

873
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,639
only says cues, so I guess she can't extrapolate she.

874
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: Knows that you went to Syracuse.

875
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: It's okay, you know.

876
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:37,159
Speaker 3: Speaking of that, I would like to segue into a

877
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,440
topic of conversation, which I think is will be of interest.

878
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,559
People are probably wondering, did you guys fight a lot

879
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,400
about like the college thing with the kids? And uh,

880
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:50,280
did we even talk about this last time?

881
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:51,199
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

882
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: Did we discuss our how things, how tense things got

883
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,760
in our house? And when it comes to like the

884
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,599
whole college thing, considering the fact that I didn't go

885
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:04,800
to college. I don't know if anybody if I've ever

886
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,639
mentioned that I didn't go to college. Kaylin didn't either,

887
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,719
He went to community.

888
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I dropped out.

889
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,559
Speaker 3: Hey, you know Lynnette also dropped out.

890
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know a lot of people I know

891
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,199
dropped out of college and you know, are doing as

892
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,360
well or better than me. So I am certainly not

893
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,760
one to say there's one path.

894
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: But tell everybody, tell us about like what college, the

895
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,679
whole college pressure in your house. We when we were

896
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,000
going into talking about college with our kids, working on

897
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,880
college with our kids, John really wanted to hire a

898
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,480
college counselor, which is a big thing these days. Not

899
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:41,719
and we're not talking about the time that costs like

900
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,559
forty thousand dollars we're talking about but it was a

901
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,960
few thousand dollars. But John's big goal with hiring a

902
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,679
college counselor was I don't want to pressure my kids

903
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,960
the way that I was pressured.

904
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, my dad. You know, my

905
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,639
dad was overly focused on college when I was growing up.

906
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,920
And I mean my grandfather had been a college professor,

907
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,840
my aunt was a college professor. You know, my dad

908
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,639
went to Princeton. So we put like a big, you know,

909
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,280
a lot of freight on you know, getting into a

910
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,519
good school and you know, you've got your your worth

911
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:19,880
will be determined by what school you go to, and

912
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440
so there was a lot of focus on it, and

913
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,679
you know, there and you know, he really I watched

914
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,079
my sister three years older than me, and I watched

915
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:32,880
my sister, who was you know, I fought back against

916
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,840
my dad a lot more. My sister was very quiet

917
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,320
and very you know, she was a very good kid,

918
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,400
and and my dad just leaned on her and she

919
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,239
got into a lot of very competitive schools.

920
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: But she did.

921
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she got but she I mean, she didn't

922
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,280
want to go to I mean, my dad wanted one

923
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,960
of us to go to Princeton. It was like it

924
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:57,239
was sort of like all right, and so there was

925
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,639
just and again I think it wasn't It wasn't I

926
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:04,280
will say in my dad's defense, it had nothing to

927
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,280
do with status or socially, just convinced that, you know,

928
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
you will only get as far in life as you know,

929
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:16,840
your college will vault you. And he was really and

930
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,239
uh and I think he was just because of that.

931
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,320
He just and he really didn't moderate the way he

932
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,559
dealt with us. It was just kind of like, either

933
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,360
you're going to be a success and get into the

934
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,480
schools you want, or you're going to be a failure

935
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:32,119
living on the street. I might as well give you

936
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:35,400
a syringe right now. So and you know, I just

937
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
have a lot of memories of my sister being you know,

938
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:40,599
in tears for two years going up to that. And

939
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,199
I mean, so I and.

940
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,679
Speaker 3: You didn't do that well in high school?

941
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Right?

942
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: No?

943
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I went to I went to a really

944
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,840
I went to a private school. It was really competitive,

945
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,599
and a couple of classes I just was and I was,

946
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,320
I was, you know, I was kind of a happy kid.

947
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,239
And I drank a little too much in my teens,

948
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,400
and I had some undiagnosed depression. So I just you know,

949
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,599
I my grades were all over the place. I had

950
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:11,199
really good SATs, which saved my saved my life because

951
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,239
back in those days you could get into some schools

952
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,880
just onessats and I had Syracuse mostly on my SATs.

953
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: But what did you do you remember?

954
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Your score was fourteen twenty or fourteen forty.

955
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:30,559
Speaker 3: Okay, according to like paying for college though on the

956
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,039
Facebook group, that's not very competitive.

957
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeh, it's okay, that's back.

958
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:35,159
Speaker 3: Retake it.

959
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,159
Speaker 2: That's back when it was out of sixteen hundred though, right.

960
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sixteen it was it was a different that's.

961
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: Isn't it still it's still out of sixteen hundred.

962
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,039
Speaker 2: It's gone twenty four hundred.

963
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: It's gone up and down and up and down. But

964
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,920
back in sixteen hundred was perfect, and you needed to

965
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,559
get into.

966
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,079
Speaker 3: Harvard's still out of sixteen hundred.

967
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:54,519
Speaker 1: You needed to get like a fourteen.

968
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: They used to say, was out of twenty four hundred.

969
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:58,559
That's for sure. Yeah, because I got I got like

970
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,880
a fourteen fifty two. It went I was out of

971
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,679
twenty four hundred.

972
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,119
Speaker 1: It went up and back down.

973
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:06,599
Speaker 3: People talk about like, oh, my kid got a fifteen sixty.

974
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,519
If they take it again, could they get like to

975
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:11,480
fifteen eighty, they're it's out of sixteen.

976
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: And I mean it was again. It's gotten even more competitive.

977
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:18,039
I mean because you know, I doubt with just I

978
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,559
mean with my with my grades and my SATs, I

979
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:22,159
couldn't have even gotten into Syracuse.

980
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: Oh I got in. I had a two point three GPA,

981
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,920
as i've and I got into U mass with eleven

982
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,000
ninety SAT. They were like, yep, come on in.

983
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I just I mean, I had I

984
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,679
got a I think I got a d er and

985
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,039
I screwed up and.

986
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,079
Speaker 2: It went to twenty four hundred from twenty five to

987
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,760
twenty sixteen. And then I went back to sixteen hundred Againah,

988
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,599
oh okay.

989
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I got a couple of very

990
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,559
bad grades junior year, but my dad still made me

991
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:56,639
go to Princeton for the interview. And you know, I

992
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:57,920
still remember sitting down.

993
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,199
Speaker 3: So how did you get the interview in the first place.

994
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:03,079
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to sound you know, just

995
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,000
one of my dad was friends with, I mean my

996
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,360
dad again still in the early eighties, and I mean

997
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,960
it wasn't fair and I digency legacy, legacy, he knew

998
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:18,400
the director of admissions at Princeton, I mean, and it

999
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,440
was just, you know, it was so you know, overly

1000
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,639
precious that the guy was a nice guy, but we

1001
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,440
both knew that I didn't belong there. So and it

1002
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:34,000
was interesting because the week before my interview, Brook Shields

1003
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:36,360
had said that she wanted to go to Princeton. She

1004
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,199
was a year behind me, and just because there was

1005
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,400
no way I was getting into Princeton, and I think

1006
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,800
we both knew it. I had a really nice conversation

1007
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,800
with the director of missions of how in the wake

1008
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,760
of Jodie Foster and John Hinckley, you know, stalking her

1009
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,760
around Yale And at this point Brook Shields was really

1010
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,360
really famous. I was like, are you guys ready for

1011
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,679
brook Shields to be you know, And we just had

1012
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,679
a nice talk about that. And I never ended up

1013
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,599
applying to Princeton because it would have been.

1014
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,559
Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't even apply. Your dad didn't make you.

1015
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,159
Speaker 1: He wanted me to. But I just, I mean, if

1016
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,280
I there is no way I could have gotten in legitimately,

1017
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,239
And if I had gotten in, it would have been bogus.

1018
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,440
And if I had gotten in, I also would have

1019
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,480
been I would have failed out within a year because

1020
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:21,679
I was so immature. It was ridiculous.

1021
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: So you know, I just so knowing all that, though,

1022
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,039
you still went into with the kids and you still

1023
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,760
have this attitude of like they need they kind of

1024
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,400
need to go to college, and.

1025
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got that's on my main circuit. But I don't.

1026
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: It's just you try to fight against it.

1027
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be I don't want to

1028
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:43,119
be like my dad. My dad put so much in. Again,

1029
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,840
he didn't mean too. It wasn't meant to be mean

1030
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719
or malicious. It was just he couldn't control himself. He's like,

1031
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,159
this is your entire future will be determined.

1032
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: And the next was kind of mad that you didn't

1033
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,679
get that you just went to Syracuse, right.

1034
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean he was he accepted it.

1035
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,159
Speaker 3: He remember that you also that you wanted to go

1036
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:00,840
to Northwestern, right.

1037
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,519
Speaker 1: And I didn't get my my application in un time.

1038
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,760
But but no, I mean my dad he didn't take

1039
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,320
any chip shots afterward because I think he figured that

1040
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
I was cast there one way or the other. But

1041
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,639
in when it was still, you know, to be decided,

1042
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,400
he was just, you're gonna be if you don't do this,

1043
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,320
you're gonna be a failure. You're gonna you know, you

1044
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,360
just you're you're going to be a disaster. And so

1045
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:29,480
he was just a lot of pressure for the last

1046
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:32,599
two three years. And and my sister was a very

1047
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,760
good student, but that didn't she got a lot of

1048
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,320
pressure too. And so anyway, all of that's to say

1049
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,400
I was really scared that that was in me and

1050
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,280
I would do that with our kids. So I overcompensated

1051
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,559
to really sort of trying to stay out of the

1052
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:51,079
college conversations, which created a vacuum that you had to fill.

1053
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I did end up having to be the

1054
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,239
heavy about the college stuff. I thought it was just

1055
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,559
maybe an inch point that like, because Lynette and I

1056
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,719
talk a lot about you know, Lynette had a really

1057
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,639
challenging childhood with her mom and uh, you know, her

1058
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,199
mom had mental illness and was just like really hard

1059
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,360
on her and really strict. And I think she and

1060
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,000
I both compensate for our childhoods by not wanting tension

1061
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,639
with our kids and wanting to be our kids friends

1062
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,559
and what I've always found kind of interesting, but it

1063
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:27,360
works for us.

1064
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we lucked out.

1065
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,079
Speaker 3: We lucked out in the fact that our we don't

1066
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:35,159
really have a great balance between us, but we want

1067
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,679
to step up. No neither one of us ever wants

1068
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,280
to be the heavy. We both want to be the

1069
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:45,079
most liked by our kids and the gentlest. I think

1070
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:48,239
you do. I mean because I think that when push

1071
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480
comes to shove, I don't have I didn't have the

1072
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:55,880
college bad experience behind me, so it didn't bother me

1073
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,880
as much mine came. Mine was more like, Okay, this

1074
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,519
is just about parent your fear of being really heavy

1075
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,280
about college. Like, we balance each other sometimes in certain

1076
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:13,719
things that don't trigger each other, right, Like, I guess

1077
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,559
what I'm trying to say is I was able to

1078
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,840
come down on Elbe a bit when she was just

1079
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:23,559
I felt like, I felt like Elb the first year

1080
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:26,400
and the second year was being avoidant because she didn't

1081
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,920
want to disappoint herself. She didn't the first year. It

1082
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440
was just hard for her to like buckle down and

1083
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,760
write the essays, and she was allergic to the pressure

1084
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,840
of like people talking about it and people she just

1085
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,079
was like, oh, I can't deal with it. Yeah, So

1086
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:43,199
we both felt like she kind of gave up on

1087
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,239
herself a little bit while her friends remained competitive. Lbe

1088
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,719
got burnt out by high school. So by the time

1089
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,440
she was trying to apply for colleges, she wasn't like

1090
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:53,480
in a lot of clubs.

1091
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:55,559
Speaker 1: She wasn't doing that what she was I mean, and

1092
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:58,760
I've always said, I mean, she, you know, like so

1093
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,960
many kids COVID was COVID hit at the end of

1094
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,280
her freshman year. In the duration of her sophomore year,

1095
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,039
and she was She came out of middle school as

1096
00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:13,519
a hardcore go getter, straight a's, and she largely kept

1097
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:17,519
up the academic rigger through COVID and after but a

1098
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:20,039
lot of the academics, you know, she didn't want to

1099
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,159
do theater anymore. She did. She was the captain of

1100
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,079
the freshman basketball team. You know, we both choke. I mean,

1101
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,800
we used to love to go to the games. And

1102
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
by the middle of COVID she's like, yeah, I don't

1103
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,480
think I want to do that. Like we were crushed,

1104
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
and she was right, but she gave she'd sort of

1105
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,239
decelerated the extra curriculars, which are she would.

1106
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,679
Speaker 3: Try new things, but like there you get these kids

1107
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:44,840
that are real go getters these days, that are like

1108
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,280
go internships and this and that. In my own five

1109
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,119
o three c I'm like, oh, do you want to

1110
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,639
go do like some volunteer work. Eh, yeah, no, thanks,

1111
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,280
you know she but whatever the point was is we

1112
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,920
were like, well, if you're going to get into a

1113
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,000
good school, it's going to be essays. It's going to

1114
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,360
be like grades and essays. And so we had to

1115
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,519
kind of anyway. And then she got obviously everybody knows

1116
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:12,679
the story, she didn't get into any of the schools

1117
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:16,199
she wanted, which we were kind of like, okay, but

1118
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,599
that was a little bit expected. Like, I mean, we

1119
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,960
were surprised, but she wasn't really as competitive as some

1120
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:26,079
of her friends. So then when the second year rolled

1121
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:31,480
around again, she was scared and not wanting to, Like

1122
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,679
I ended up having to be the person to go like, no,

1123
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,079
you're going to write these essays? How are we? So

1124
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,639
I don't know what that that kind of is like

1125
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,320
you have taken a step back.

1126
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: But well, I mean they're a couple of I mean,

1127
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,840
yet that's very much true the way you're describing it.

1128
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,519
But it's also you know, you and I have talked

1129
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:53,639
about this too, which is going from you know, my

1130
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,599
scattered background to your scattered background. I am. You know,

1131
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,360
if I start to on the occasions that I have,

1132
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,840
you know, become the heavy. It's also a little bit

1133
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:10,760
triggering for you because you had a very you know,

1134
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,840
very difficult stepfather who was and so I think even

1135
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,599
when I'm just trying to in measure be sort of

1136
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,679
you're not going to do. I mean when I step

1137
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,599
up and you know, am the disciplinarian, I think to

1138
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,159
a degree it it kind of activates a little thing

1139
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:31,039
in you and also in me. I'm like, okay, I

1140
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:33,639
can almost see you looking at me like I'm your

1141
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,719
step father a little bit. So I'm like I'm like okay.

1142
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,320
So it's almost like I need to, you know, prep

1143
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,719
you for going. You know, I'm about to go, you know,

1144
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,559
growl at LB. Don't get mad at me for this.

1145
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:47,480
I need to do this.

1146
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 3: Well, I think that, and this is an interesting conversation,

1147
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,599
but I I hear what you're saying and I can

1148
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,760
see that. But I also think that you have your

1149
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,079
own internal thing about your dad. Oh yeah, and so

1150
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,800
I think that you refrain, refrain, refrain, and then all

1151
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,119
of a sudden you can go from zero to sixty

1152
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:10,840
and then suddenly you're mad. And I'm like, well, hey, hey,

1153
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,480
slow your role, because if you just walk into Albie's

1154
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,320
room mad like, she's not going to have seen any

1155
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,039
lead up to it.

1156
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: Well, the tire iron. When I walk in with a

1157
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,639
tire iron, it's just for show. I'm not swinging that thing.

1158
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Well, I like to get mad at her, and then

1159
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,559
get mad at her again and then get I like

1160
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:32,159
to get in until by the time I'm yelling, or

1161
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:34,840
by the time I'm like what the hell is going

1162
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,239
on with you? It's she knows that's coming. Whereas I

1163
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,199
get worried that you're going to just walk in there

1164
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,760
and be really mad and she's going to be like,

1165
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,440
what what did I do?

1166
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:47,079
Speaker 1: It's possible I don't know, but I mean again and

1167
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:49,480
our kids, know, I mean, our kids can play us

1168
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,880
a little bit where jumps. I mean, look at what

1169
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,039
happened at Thanksgiving, what happened our friend who is a

1170
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,840
works for the community college, and he was very instrumental

1171
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,119
and you know, being a cheerleader for LB and getting

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her through that middle shout out to Jeff, but he

1173
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really was a booster of you know, if you come

1174
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to you know, community college, we are great at vaulting

1175
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you into wherever you want to go and keep your

1176
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chin up. And he was so Anyway, having had that

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success with ELB, he pivoted to the Twins and he

1178
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,960
was talking to Sadie and he was asking Sadie what

1179
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she wanted to do. And I overheard Sadie going, well,

1180
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you know, I think what I'm going to do is

1181
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be a professional musician. And so I listened sort of,

1182
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I had my ear cocked to that. I was, you know,

1183
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within just across the room, and I was listening to her.

1184
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,719
He was like, well, you know, you could do it,

1185
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,719
and are you interested in the music business. She's like, well,

1186
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,199
maybe not the music business. I just you know, I

1187
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,599
want to be a touring musician, and I'm hearing that,

1188
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I'm going, Okay, yeah, that's that's that going to work out.

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So I circled in later on and I you know,

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I said, say so, I said, I love that for you,

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but you're gonna have you know, you're definitely going to

1192
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,400
have another plan other than being a rock star. That

1193
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:13,519
can't be plan A.

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Speaker 3: And then elbe I mean, then Sadie came to me

1195
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,760
and she was like, Dad's pressuring me about college exactly.

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Speaker 1: And then you came to me and you're like, I

1197
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:23,760
heard you heard your pressured Sadie about college. I'm like, no,

1198
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,960
I just told her she had to have a planned beach.

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She couldn't be a rock star.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, But all right, we have so much more

1201
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:35,079
for you on our Friday episode, which John seems to

1202
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:38,480
think is a Thursday episode. But before we go, let's

1203
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,000
give a shout out to our business partners. We've got

1204
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our friend of the show who has a medium dot

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com column and it's called Unbecoming Stories. Go check her

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out on Medium. See if there's any that you can

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read for free. But oh my god, it's going to

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change your life. She's so uber talented. Also, speaking of

1209
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,440
like a testing and SATs et cetera. About the how

1210
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,559
about the act? Our friend Laurie Bishop's sons business is

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the Better Test Prep ACT Guide. It's a self paced

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act prep guide designed by a student who got a

1213
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,639
super score of thirty five on the exam and now

1214
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he's here to help you. So go to bit dot

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l y slash Better Test Prep and the insta is

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better dot test dot Prep, so it go go check

1217
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it out and at least follow the account. Also, The

1218
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Family Skeptical is a podcast about raising kids without religion.

1219
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Pretty cool. So if you don't want to raise your

1220
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,639
kids with any kind of dogmatic belief system, you're not alone.

1221
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,280
Go check out The Family Skeptical. Also, our friend Christstroup

1222
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:53,079
is trying to raise awareness for her friend's foundation, which

1223
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:57,719
is called the Chase Haleyproject dot com. Chase Hailey h

1224
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a l E. Y project and she lost her son

1225
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,320
to suicide, so sad, and she wanted to break the

1226
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,119
stigma surrounding suicide and help fill the gaps in her

1227
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:11,880
community in Ohio. So go check that out. And then,

1228
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of course, as always, Womanfrida, we love that restaurant. If

1229
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,239
you're in Palm Springs or Palm Desert. Check them out.

1230
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,679
The food is a miss. Also, our friend Carrie Kibbler

1231
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:26,079
is here to tell you about the Trevor Project. With

1232
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,000
everything that's going on in the world today, we need

1233
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:33,599
some support for our LGBTQ plus youth and the Trevor

1234
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:36,599
Project provides that, so please go check them out Trevor

1235
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Project dot org. Also in time for the holidays, Basic

1236
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,920
Becky just Basicbecky dot com. That's where I've gotten. I

1237
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,320
got you your mousepad. Yeah, your mousepad which is blocked

1238
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,519
by Carrie Lake, blocked by Kerry Lake, uh huh, and

1239
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:54,360
mine which is blocked by Scott bo. So get a mousepad,

1240
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,480
get a T shirt, get a I don't know whatever,

1241
00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,440
a blanket, a mug. We love that. And and if

1242
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,320
you're on the island of Kawaii and Hawaii, Hawaii, go

1243
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,840
to Sugar Skull and check out this. It's a small

1244
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,239
bakery and gift shop. And they have a website now

1245
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:14,679
which is Sugar Skull eight O eight dot square dot site.

1246
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,360
And let's see, let's always talk about Adam Lerner. He's

1247
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,280
a car broker, right He got us in our car, got.

1248
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Our car from Adam that we drove here today.

1249
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: Yep, Adams got a car dot com and we already

1250
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,159
talked about Ferncandles, so check her out at ferncandle dot com.

1251
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:33,679
All right, thanks everybody, Thanks Calin, you're a parent. Now

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,199
I forget it's

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Speaker 2: Letting.