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Speaker 3: I wish it was unnecessary to have our next guest
Speaker 3: on Tim Rivers.
Speaker 2: Great guy. He's a retired IT engineer, Fortune one hundred
Speaker 2: executive and writer. In twenty twenty one and began writing
Speaker 2: letters of support to the January sixth prisoners and documenting
Speaker 2: their stories and their messages to to supporters and America.
Speaker 2: And he, along with Mary Goodwin, J six's mother and activist,
Speaker 2: created J six Patriot News, providing up the date information
Speaker 2: about the state and mistreatment of the patriots and how
Speaker 2: they can be helped. And he founded the American Gulog Chronicles.
Speaker 2: And last time he was on the program January of
Speaker 2: this year, we did talk about his book, The American
Speaker 2: Gulog Chronicles, Letters from Prison, and today he joins the
Speaker 2: program because sadly it was necessary to do a second book,
Speaker 2: The American Gulog Chronicles. I'm sorry. The art of confinement.
Speaker 2: I just look, I just my here we are. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm talking to Alexander Stolchinichen about the
Speaker 2: Soviet Union and the Gulag Archipelago that he wrote, and
Speaker 2: this is a comparable thing. Welcome back, Tim. I really
Speaker 2: wish it wasn't necessary to have you on. But here's
Speaker 2: another book, and there are still in prison and these
Speaker 2: trials are still going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of a disturbing, I
Speaker 1: would think to anybody who thinks that justice is available
Speaker 1: to them. I mean, I just got off the phone
Speaker 1: yesterday with one individual. He's a thirty year military veteran,
Speaker 1: three times Bronze Star, green Beret, never had a traffic
Speaker 1: ticket in his entire life. We're three years and nine
Speaker 1: months coming without trial, sitting in Dallas Fort with prison.
Speaker 1: These are things that I think Americans don't believe could
Speaker 1: happen to them, can't believe it happened in this country.
Speaker 1: That second book was necessary because this is a chronology,
Speaker 1: this is a story that has unfortunately not ended. There
Speaker 1: is actually a third book underway called Letters to Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump one hundred and twenty five Letters for Prisoners directly
Speaker 1: to DJT. Everything from trying to explain to him what
Speaker 1: happened and why they you know, why they are where
Speaker 1: they're at, and to please for you know, please pardon us.
Speaker 1: I think these are times that are disturbing to anybody
Speaker 1: who has an expectation of some stability in the function
Speaker 1: of justice and the function of law enforcement, in the
Speaker 1: rights of citizens. It's a it's a very disturbing thing
Speaker 1: to observe in a lifetime. I really wish I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen it, but I think that this is a time
Speaker 1: when Americans are being called to duty. I don't care
Speaker 1: what your age is, I don't care where you've been
Speaker 1: in your life, for what you've done. Your country needs
Speaker 1: you now. We are really in serious trouble. And I
Speaker 1: have children, I have grandchildren. I would hope that the
Speaker 1: grandchildren would have grandchildren one day. I would like them
Speaker 1: all to be free, all to be able to expect
Speaker 1: equal justice, all to be able to have the rights
Speaker 1: that our founding bothers gave us in blood.
Speaker 2: Well, many in my listening audience share your arguments, your belief,
Speaker 2: your perception of what January six was, which I routinely
Speaker 2: refer to as what looks like and what God of
Speaker 2: out of hand, drunken fraternity party, not something that truly
Speaker 2: represented a threat to our democracy, but that they have
Speaker 2: been so mistreated and over prosecuted, and you mentioned the
Speaker 2: someone who's been spending that much time in prison has
Speaker 2: yet to be even brought to court. Speak to the
Speaker 2: listeners and explain to them, if you can, please speak
Speaker 2: to those listeners who really think this is appropriate, that
Speaker 2: it was a threat to democracy and somehow the January
Speaker 2: sixth was, you know, the biggest threat that our nation
Speaker 2: has ever seen. And there are people out there that
Speaker 2: are die hard believers in that and think that everybody
Speaker 2: should be locked up and throw have the key thrown away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a very hard battle because the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna call them mainstream media, the fake
Speaker 1: media has been working so hard to misrepresent what happened
Speaker 1: and to present a biased political viewpoint of the current regime.
Speaker 1: We have worked really hard. The reason the books came
Speaker 1: out is because it wasn't enough to publish these things
Speaker 1: on telegram and x. We weren't reaching the audience of
Speaker 1: America that needed to hear the truth, so we put
Speaker 1: the books out there. The books have done okay, but
Speaker 1: you know what, it still wasn't enough. Some of the
Speaker 1: other people who are labored in this field of ridiculous
Speaker 1: sorrow with me for three years. Mister Davidson raw from
Speaker 1: Stop Paid and Camera Lee from actually from a number
Speaker 1: of different things. More notably, she has been a filmmaker
Speaker 1: and a publicist. And we formed a new company called
Speaker 1: Unredacted Media just for this purpose to begin to go
Speaker 1: a little bit further than the books to do film.
Speaker 1: In fact, we just held our first film festival in Greenville,
Speaker 1: Texas in the historic Texan Theater where Houdini and the
Speaker 1: March Brothers and Kate Smith and names that you would
Speaker 1: recognize and performed for over eighty years. And we put
Speaker 1: together twelve incredible documentary films that tells this story and
Speaker 1: not just about Januuary six, but we're going all the
Speaker 1: way back to the pandemic and we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: how did we arrive at the precipice which we stand upon.
Speaker 1: Now we've told it in twelve incredible documentary films. It's
Speaker 1: almost fourteen hours of video over three days, and now
Speaker 1: it's almost available for post production streaming. You can watch
Speaker 1: all the films, you can watch all of the additional
Speaker 1: data on them. And what we're doing is we're urging
Speaker 1: people to hold watch parties because the folks who are listening,
Speaker 1: who don't believe that if you watch these films, it's
Speaker 1: not propaganda, literally, and some of them have almost no commentary.
Speaker 1: It's video. It's raw, real video from that day and
Speaker 1: from the other occurrences, and we just ask America to
Speaker 1: watch and make up their own minds. We're not trying
Speaker 1: to convince anybody of anything. What we're trying to do
Speaker 1: is reveal truth. And so if you go to one
Speaker 1: afilmfest dot com, you can get a ticket for twenty
Speaker 1: five bucks, twelve and a half hours of movie, over
Speaker 1: fifteen hours of other content, filmmaker interviews, just really trying
Speaker 1: to reveal the truth of what has happened in America.
Speaker 1: I would think this would be our last step, but
Speaker 1: you know what, we keep feeling this hand upon our shoulder.
Speaker 1: This says we have not done enough, because America is
Speaker 1: still hurting. And so I guess we just keep fighting
Speaker 1: until we either find the solution to bring us back
Speaker 1: to some sanity, some reasonable expectation of the American values,
Speaker 1: or we expire in the process. And I'm okay, either
Speaker 1: way with it.
Speaker 2: At your age, you know, maybe a little bit like
Speaker 2: my mom who's eighty four and you know, thinks she's
Speaker 2: not gonna live long enough to see the collapse or say,
Speaker 2: for example, the Social Security system. Maybe there's a little
Speaker 2: bit of that going on in your mind there. She say,
Speaker 2: you'll take what comes, but I don't want to see
Speaker 2: that what comes like that, because like you, I have
Speaker 2: children as well, and hope some day they have grandchildren.
Speaker 2: My own Now does the money that you take and
Speaker 2: it's oneafilmfest dot com.
Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Yeah? She did the money
Speaker 1: from all it took to I guess you know again.
Speaker 1: We started this company because everything we've done has been nonprofit.
Speaker 1: All of our workers are volunteers. Nobody gets paid for
Speaker 1: what they've done. For almost four years now, all the
Speaker 1: money from the books goes to a nonprofit that goes
Speaker 1: right back into the January six support function. So if
Speaker 1: you buy one of these books, you've joined my Gulag
Speaker 1: army to help keep these men and women alive and
Speaker 1: keep their families afloat. But more importantly, the money from
Speaker 1: these movies is going right back into creating more films,
Speaker 1: to giving January six prisoners who have been released and
Speaker 1: in some cases are still in prison, the opportunity to
Speaker 1: write books, to be involved in filmmaking, to tell this
Speaker 1: story in a way that preserves it for the future,
Speaker 1: so other generations, unfortunately, do not make the same mistakes
Speaker 1: that we have made.
Speaker 2: Then your first book, Letters from Prison, the American Goola
Speaker 2: chronicles Letters from Prison. Again, we talked about that in January.
Speaker 2: These are letters from the actual incarcerated folks. Explain this,
Speaker 2: this nouve on the art of confinement. Get a little
Speaker 2: more detail about how this differs, if it does from
Speaker 2: the prior book.
Speaker 1: It does. It's still it's still letters, but it's the
Speaker 1: content of the letters has dramatically changed. They they have
Speaker 1: found the expectation of endurance is probably their best tool
Speaker 1: in getting through this. As Americans and hopefully people that
Speaker 1: are listening to this radio were allaving to try and
Speaker 1: reverse this injustice. But these folks have turned this type
Speaker 1: of incarceration, this type of persecution, the endurance of that.
Speaker 1: They've turned it into a damn art form. The different
Speaker 1: ways that they have found the cope. And I would
Speaker 1: just tell you immediately that most of these men were
Speaker 1: very staunch Christians when they went in. Those who were
Speaker 1: not have actually been converted and baptized in prison. They
Speaker 1: have found their faith in God, in Christ to be
Speaker 1: their most potent ballwork against what's happening to them. And
Speaker 1: they like me, I said, you know what comes comes.
Speaker 1: If this is where you sent me and this is
Speaker 1: where I stand now, then this is where I will work.
Speaker 1: And I think these people have come to that same
Speaker 1: conclusion that I'm here for a reason. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the big plan, but I do understand that there is
Speaker 1: always a plan, and I'll serve my part in it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the beautiful thing of believing in a higher power,
Speaker 2: because when the highest power that you're surrounded by is
Speaker 2: the state and the state has failed you, there at
Speaker 2: least some higher power you can turn to for well,
Speaker 2: peace of mind, maybe some hope. But also, like you said,
Speaker 2: and the whole the idea of the Lord works in
Speaker 2: mysterious ways. Maybe you are suffering so others can become
Speaker 2: aware of it thanks to folks like you, Tim Rivers,
Speaker 2: who get this information out about this mistreatment, about how
Speaker 2: the government is abusing its citizens, and so we all
Speaker 2: learn from their suffering. I mean there may be a
Speaker 2: reason why they're suffering. The Lord does work in mysterious ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid that the current regime would like to
Speaker 1: be our god. Oh yeah, to replace God with state.
Speaker 1: And that is the function of the socialist society. That
Speaker 1: is a methodology of introduction of communism into productive societies.
Speaker 1: We've seen it happen across the world over and over again.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that people don't recognize it. And that's why
Speaker 1: we thought these films were important, because we put them
Speaker 1: together in a manner that just tells the story of
Speaker 1: not only what has been happening, but how we have
Speaker 1: been so thoroughly and specifically manipulated into a belief of
Speaker 1: reality that does not match the actual reality of the world.
Speaker 1: And I think that sort. One of these films is
Speaker 1: called Into the Light, and it explores that topic in
Speaker 1: a way that I just, I mean, heck, I know
Speaker 1: these filmmakers, and I just fall off my chair watching
Speaker 1: these things. Because even I immersed in this as deeply
Speaker 1: as I am with the people who speak to me
Speaker 1: almost every day, I've ard things in these films that
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe, but I now know them
Speaker 1: to be true. And it helps illuminate if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a path to get into the fight, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for permission to become you know, somebody more than
Speaker 1: just Joe sitting on the couch watching TV. I'm giving
Speaker 1: it to you now because your nation's calling, and this
Speaker 1: is a time where you can't fight without being educated,
Speaker 1: because you don't even know what you're fighting against. So
Speaker 1: these movies, we put them together to form an armory
Speaker 1: of truth. I know that may sound militant, but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's an armory of truth. We want you to draw
Speaker 1: you weapons of knowledge, to find your shield of faith,
Speaker 1: and to find your sword of justice. And let's get
Speaker 1: in this game. Let's be sure. Not only do we vote,
Speaker 1: we take our neighbors to vote. We find our friends
Speaker 1: who never voted before. We go to our church and
Speaker 1: we find that thirty seven percent of Christians who aren't
Speaker 1: even registered, and we take them to the polls with us,
Speaker 1: and we start to rebuild this country. And I wasn't
Speaker 1: being facetious when I said I didn't think i'd see
Speaker 1: the end, because I think the rebuild will be decades
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure God will give me that much time.
Speaker 1: If he does. I'm okay with it. I'll keep fighting
Speaker 1: and working until you know, he calls me out. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, I think he's calling a lot of
Speaker 1: people and nobody's listening, and so I'm telling you tune down,
Speaker 1: turn off the radio, shut off the phone, forget some
Speaker 1: TV for just a few minutes. Even maybe the radio
Speaker 1: somebody who's important as Joe, turn it off for just
Speaker 1: a minute. Listen to the silence and see if you
Speaker 1: can hear the call.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. But I will encourage my listeners not to
Speaker 2: turn off the morning show because it's places like my
Speaker 2: venue where people like you can get the message out.
Speaker 2: Not that I disagree with your message, generally speaking, it's
Speaker 2: just simply a question of where information is gathered, and
Speaker 2: you can gather great information from Tim Rivers books American
Speaker 2: Gulaw chronicles the art of confinement, the most recent one
Speaker 2: preceded by Letters from Prison, and of course volume three coming,
Speaker 2: and I really wish there was I hope we can
Speaker 2: come to a day when there won't be a need
Speaker 2: for this anymore, and justice will be served for these
Speaker 2: folks really quickly before we part company here, Tim, just
Speaker 2: by way of illustration, now I'd be the first person
Speaker 2: to have made if you walked on into the Capitol
Speaker 2: building and you picked up, say something and clubbed a
Speaker 2: police officer or somebody over the head with it, that
Speaker 2: you are guilty or responsible for your damages. You committed
Speaker 2: a crime. You should be held accountable for that fine.
Speaker 2: There has been an actual tortue, even if a civil
Speaker 2: you want to put a civil thing on it. There
Speaker 2: was something that was done. Harm was done, but for
Speaker 2: someone merely walking around the building. They were invited in
Speaker 2: in many cases by Capitol police and other figures and authority.
Speaker 2: How they can be incarcerated for that simple action is
Speaker 2: beyond my understanding. But give my listeners like one illustration
Speaker 2: of a severe injustice that someone is dealing with right now,
Speaker 2: just to put a little exclamation point on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll just point back to Jeff McKellop, the
Speaker 1: individual I just spoke about is is almost four years
Speaker 1: without trial, and now they've set his trial for February,
Speaker 1: so that will be well four years and changed. He
Speaker 1: was standing outside behind a barrier, very peacefully. He was
Speaker 1: there to actually provide protection for some of the speakers
Speaker 1: that day, but everything just kind of fell apart when
Speaker 1: over millions of people showed instead of the expected five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. He observed a police officer knock a lady
Speaker 1: who was standing peacefully down apply to steps concrete. She
Speaker 1: was in her sixties and seventies. He got up and
Speaker 1: tried to reapproach it, and he'd done that, same officers
Speaker 1: sprayed her in the face with bear mason at literally
Speaker 1: point blank range, and then struck her again. And mister McKellop,
Speaker 1: who was a Green Beret and who has been trained
Speaker 1: to come to the aid of those who cannot protect themselves,
Speaker 1: did what any good American would do, and he tried
Speaker 1: to protect that lady. I approved in video that he
Speaker 1: never contacted the officer that he was. He tripped and
Speaker 1: fell forward, but he was recovered. He never even touched
Speaker 1: the man. He never struck a blow, He never heard anybody.
Speaker 1: And yet he's been charged with like a half dozen
Speaker 1: violent donies because of who he is, because he's a
Speaker 1: uniformed retired uniformed officer of special forces and he stood
Speaker 1: against the government because they were doing something wrong the government,
Speaker 1: which is to make people like him, people like Green
Speaker 1: Beret Jeremy Brown, people like Captain Gabe Garcia. I could
Speaker 1: go on and on. These are veterans, decorated veterans who
Speaker 1: have been singled out by the government for this ty
Speaker 1: with behavior because they dared to stand against tyranny stands.
Speaker 1: Please go to J six Patriotnews dot com and read
Speaker 1: these stories for yourself. That's all I mean. I could.
Speaker 1: I could go on for hours, Joe, but I know
Speaker 1: you don't have that time for I'm Brian.
Speaker 2: Joe Strecker is the producer of the program. That's okay,
Speaker 2: J six Patriot News. That's all right. It happens all
Speaker 2: the time. I am a mere facilitator to get information out.
Speaker 2: I don't care if anybody remembers my name or not,
Speaker 2: as long as they remember the information that you're passing along.
Speaker 2: And get a copy of the American Goolt Chronicles Volumes
Speaker 2: one and two. Jostrecker will put them up on my
Speaker 2: blog page fifty five cars dot com, and I'll also
Speaker 2: ask that the add J six Patriotnews dot com and
Speaker 2: one afilmfest dot com for my listeners who can't write
Speaker 2: it down because they're in the car or away from something,
Speaker 2: to jot it down fifty five cars dot com for
Speaker 2: all that and this discussion on podcasts. Tim Rivers, keep
Speaker 2: up the great work, my friend. I hope to have
Speaker 2: you back on the program with with some really good
Speaker 2: news at some point down the road.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. Brother, and everybody, don't do nothing.
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