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Speaker 1: What is up, fellow Siko's I am Dana Valley coming

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at you with the first solo podcast in quite some time.

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But we've had some delays and trying to pin down

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the final three twenty five NBA season look Aheads rest ashore.

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They will be up by opening night as of now,

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at least that's how it's scheduled. But since it's been

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like four or five days since we put up a

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full episode, I figured that it would make some sense

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to just do a reaction here. So we're gonna go

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through a Bleacher Report article by Andy Bailey where he

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listed one ambitious trade target for every team. Interesting time

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of year to do this, pretty shocking too. We're never

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asked to really write trade stuff at bleacher Report, so

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that's a nice little departure from the typical content requests

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that we have the right to refuse, of course, so

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we're gonna go through it. I have not looked at it,

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some very interested to see who he listed for which teams,

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and I think with that, the only thing that I

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can remind you is go check out all our season

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If you're new around these parts, you've made it through

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the first ninety seconds. Let's get to me reacting to

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one ambitious trade target for every NBA team entering the

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twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five regular season. Okay,

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here we are, so as a reminder, I've not gone

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through these in advance. I did see the cover though,

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and it had Rob Polinka and JJ Reddick on it,

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So I assume this is bold that the Lakers are

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going to be on this list of every NBA team.

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A little bit surprised, but I guess that's how it's

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just going to shake out. We begin alphabetically, that's onto

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the Atlanta Hawks. Michael Porter Junior. This is interesting right

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out of the gate, I see the fit. Someone with

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size who's gonna space the floor. And aside from they

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have Trey Young, they have Bogies, so they have some

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capslock shooters. But when you look at the front court,

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Jalen Johnson a little bit of a shaky shooter, they're bigs.

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I mean Yakakungu's dabbled in it, Clin Copella not really,

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Larry Dance Junior, kind of lower volume. I could see

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it them wanting him his skill set in terms of

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ambitious He's owed three years and one hundred plus million

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left on his deal. I find it hard to believe

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that the Hawks would pay him and Jalen Johnson with

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his extension coming up, and Trey Young, who has I

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think two more three years left on his deal, two

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of which will come before his player option. I don't

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I mean, what does the package look like at that point?

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Denver might want to shed that payroll, and I'm sure

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they'd be interested in something built around I guess DeAndre

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Hunter and Bogdanovich. Is that a trade that makes the

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Hawks better? Though, don't hate the fit, just find it

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implausible when you're looking at the finances of it all.

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The Boston Celtics, Kevin Love. Anyone's kind of ambitious for

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the Celtics their second apron team, So for I don't

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want to get too into the weeds with it, but

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they just can't take back more money than they receive

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and they can't aggregate players, and so basically anyone is

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going to be a inambitious trade Tarker for them. I

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like Kevin Love's fit, like he preserves the five out.

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And if you're worried that Chris hops Persings isn't gonna

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be healthy, you can use Jayden Springer's salary. I think

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we'll match up with his fairly nicely. But at that

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point it's sort of like, oh so you just don't

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I guess, KP. Do you think he's gonna miss more time?

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As Al Horford regrets at the age of thirty eight,

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I think I'd rather see them if they're going to

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trade for anyone, and if it's just gonna cost you

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Jayden Springer, Yeah, you don't care, But is this then

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an indictment of how you feel about name he is

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Kada or Lou Cornett, Xavier Tillman. You just have all

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those guys on the roster already. I'd probably rather see

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you go with like a secondary playmaker off the bench,

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or just another type of wing if you're going to

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do anything at all. But again, any target for the

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Celtics is pretty You can use Peyton Pritchard, I guess,

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to get Love as well. But who else is Miami

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sending back in that deal? They have their own Apron

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concerns too, so that makes it like this would have

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to be a three team scenario, most likely just to

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get Kevin Loved to Boston. So definitely ambitious. The Brooklyn

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Nets Fred van Fleet. Okay, okay, all right, what is

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going on? What's the logic here? So he's making a

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bunch of money, He's basically an expiring contracts because of

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his team options, so I don't necessarily think Houston would

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be looking to move him, even if they believe in

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Aman Thompson and Sheng Goon and Reed Shepherd as the

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drivers of their offense. Jellen Green there, of course, I

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don't see the logic for Brooklyn to get someone this

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good when they've opened a two year window in which

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they should be really bad. You have Ben Simmons' expiring salary,

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you have some other money you can include in there.

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you might not need to, they probably come pretty close.

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I just I mean, as a long term value play

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for Brooklyn, if you don't believe he's going to ruin

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your tank and chance at having one of those top

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four top four lottery odds ones, sure, just have that

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asset preserved. But like, what are you giving Houston like

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back for this? I mean, do they have I don't know,

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and they don't have an They don't care now if

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you're good, because they gave up your first round pick.

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So there is that. But they have these grand cap

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space plans in twenty twenty five and as of right now,

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unless you really believe that, and Thompson reed, Shepherd and

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Shangoon are kind of the faces of the offense moving forward,

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they might prefer to have the option of bringing van

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Fleet back or getting off his numbers that they can

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have a ton of flexibility over the summer. Again, NETS

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can send back the requisite number of expiring contracts if

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Houston wants. I just don't. I don't love the fit there,

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very interesting though, I like the I like the boldness

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of that. Charlotte Hornet's Jared Allen so we're just out

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of the Mark Williams business at that point. From Cleveland's perspective,

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you could see a situation where they break up the

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Mobley Allen pairing his extension that he signed will allow

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him to be traded January thirty first, so he could

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be moved a package. What does that package look like? Though?

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I guess we're talking Miles Bridges as a starter, and

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I mean like that could just be like that's the

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basis of the package. Or giving up Mark Williams in

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that scenario and Cleveland's doing him as a backup to

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Evan Mobley, That's something that could potentially work. I don't

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know why, Charlotte, if it's really only gonna cost you,

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If it I'll frame it this way. If it's gonna

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cost you Miles Bridges, I might just consider it because

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I would believe that Jared Allen could be more of

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a mainstay alongside Brandon Miller and LaMelo Ball moving forward,

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and even t Jon Salon then Miles Bridges. But if

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it's going to cost you first round equity, I don't know.

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If I get Queasy's. If it's Miles Bridges and Mark Williams,

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I might do it. If I'm Charlotte. But it's also

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it would be a weird move if they're not hell

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bent on winning this season. But again, Allen's under contract,

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and he's young enough that you could view him as Okay,

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he comes in, We're still not going to be great.

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and bren and Miller really get things humming. I like

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this one. I just it's all about cost, as it

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is with everybody else. The Bulls, Ruey Hachimora, I don't

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I mean, I don't know what the Bulls are doing. Sure?

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What is like? Are we just assuming will come at

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from this perspective? And I don't know what he wrote

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to justify it that they want to get rid of

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Zack Lavine, And so it's what's the best return you

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can get for Zack Lavine? In that case, I probably

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list like a Lakers, like distant first round pick, the

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you know, the ones far out that they could trade,

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or maybe I'd want expiring money. But Ruy, sure, I

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mean you would have him and Patrick Williams on the roster,

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maybe have some nice size on on the perimeter. I

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don't hate it if this is more about just hey,

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let's get off of Zack Lavine's money, and we have

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more needs to fill in kind of the three four

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five area than the one and two right now. I

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totally completely get that not inspiring, but the polls direction

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is not inspired. I understand the logic here. I like

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this one too. That's a really good suggestion. The woo

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the Calves, Trey Murphy, shit Pelkin's hands are gonna be

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pissed if they haven't seen this already. Yes for the Calves, Yes,

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who do you want? I might even if if we're

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talking do you want Darius Garland? You wouldn't if you're

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New Orleans because you have de Jonta Murray. I assume

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this is kind of a Jared Allen centric proposal, where

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it's what other money are you taking back? Though from

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New Orleans? That gets weird because New Orleans, when you're

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talking about throwing money, they only have basically mega deals

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like Trey Murphy and Jordan Hawkins. Is not going to

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get you to the money necessary to bring back Jared Allen.

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You have to include one of CJ. McCullum or Brandon

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Ingram in that. The idea of them giving up now

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and if you're gonna trade Trey Murphy for a big

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My assumption would then be because Allen's relatively effective moving

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forward thirty million dollars a year, but again it's relatively

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cap going up. Not a bad deal at all. If

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you're going to trade Trey Murphy for Jared Allen, who

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is more important to you moving forward? Is it CJ McCollum,

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or is it brandon Ingram just the youth and the

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overall upside. Youth, but just the age and the overall upside.

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It's probably brandon Ingram, but you're losing CJ. McCollum, who

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at this point is probably your second highest volume three

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point shooter behind Murphy. So there has to be a

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bunch of moving parts to this deal where I think

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you would have to look at Jared Allen. I'm off

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cuff right now. It'd have to be Jared Allen max

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Struss for Trey Murphy plus big salary X. And I

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don't know that Cleveland's gonna want I don't even know

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if they would want brandon Ingram if we're being honest,

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And then you still run into the problem of paying

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Murphy and brandon Ingram, which is the problem that New

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Orleans is currently grappling with that's tough. I mean, if

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you're the Calves and you can trade a I mean,

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you're probably the team that we need to give up.

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I don't know. But if it's Jared Allen and Struce

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is kind of the basis, and then you're you probably

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have to throw some filler salary in there. Maybe is

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there Jalen tight Like does Jalen Tyson need to go

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out to New Orleans in this? But if the basis

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of the packages you have Trey Murphy and Brandon Ingram,

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because I honestly, how else are you getting there? Like

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New Orleans isn't just gonna trade Trey Murphy for a

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pick and Jalen Tyson. So if you're bringing back Murphy

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and Ingram because I don't see why the Cavs would

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want McCollum when you have Garland and Mitchell, that's a tough.

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I love Trey Murphy's fit in Cleveland. I just struggle.

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I can't even come with a package to get him there.

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It'd be Jared Allen centric, but even fleshing that out

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becomes a little difficult. The Dallas Mavericks Ken Rich Williams

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build the statue outside of OKC for Kenrich Williams. This

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one's interesting too. I like it a lot. It's fairly

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ambitious in the sense that the MAVs don't have a

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ton of stuff with which they could trade. But Williams

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probably is not as important to OKAC. He was banged

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up last year, not as big a part of the rotation.

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But if you're the MAVs, you're kind I'm just looking

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to add that, you know, continue with the versatile front

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court element, and to have him and PJ. Washington and

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Naji Marshall in the same front court together. If you

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want to downsize, like play without a big, without Gafford,

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without Lively, without a Kliba, that's a look you could

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go to. Williams can also be moved around the positional

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spectrum some four, some three stuff. I liked that. For

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the Mavericks, that's a good one. I'd be curious see

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what the packages. But okase he might be willing to

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move him now more than ever, just given the makeup

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of its roster. The Denver Nuggets have Cody Martin. Anyone

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who listens to this podcast knows I've been trying to

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get Cody Martin one healthy and I haven't been doing

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a very good job of that apparently, and two onto

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a really good team. I will settle for him just

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playing a crap ton of minutes for the Charlotte Hornets.

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that before there was the Caleb Martin, there was Cody Martin,

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and it's the reason that Caleb Martin was the one

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that ended up outside of Charlotte. So I still value

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Cody Martin as a potential gap filler if there are

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questions with the shooting, but the connective passing moving up

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and down, like the positional spectrum on defense, and he

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can handle some really tough assignments there do some things

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inside the arc as well. When he's healthy, and he

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hasn't really been healthy in two or three years. How

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do we get him to Denver because that is a

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fantastic fit man him alongside Nikola Jokich. Holy crap, it

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would have to be with Zeke Naji's salary, basically. I mean,

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you could get into some bigger numbers if you were

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gonna move one of your core players, but you're not

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doing that to get Cody Martin. The Nuggets have no

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second round picks, though, and you're not, like, are you

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gonna attach your twenty thirty one first to NAJ to

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get Cody Martin? No? So would you do if you're

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Denver a hunter? Like a hunter Tyson and NAJ for

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Cody Martin. Does Charlotte have interest in Jaye and Pickett

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when Trey Mann is there? I don't know. Is there

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something you could fold in there with Trey Mann coming

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back to Denver two and maybe that's where they give

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up their first That seems a little steep. I might

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consider it if it's a Tyson or Picket plus nausey

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for Martin. I probably do it for Denver. But Cody

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Martin needs to be healthy, and that's a that's a

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big flippant. If at this point the Detroit Pistons brandon

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Ingram we solved how to get to Trey Murphy to Cleveland,

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is that we just rope in uh the Pistons. I

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was looking at it as strictly a two team scenario

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and it didn't need to be that. I understand the

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logic here, but I'm not giving up Asar Thompson for

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brandon Ingram. Maybe I would give up Ron Holland if

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brandon Ingram's coming back, But are you really gonna give

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up another a top five pick for the right to

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pay brandon Ingram. Probably not. The Pelicans don't have a

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need for Jade and Ivy. This is a tough fit.

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just say there's a bunch of moving parts, a bunch

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of different teams here involved three or four teams, you're

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probably bringing brandon Ingram in. You're gonna have to pay

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him after paying Cake Cunningham. And I would say at

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least two of Asar Thompson, Ron Holland and Jade and

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Ivy are still in town. And that's not kind of

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the best functional fit. That's a lot of guys who

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prefer to operate on the ball. I trust to star

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Thompson knew the right things off the ball, just because

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we saw enough of him last year. So that's a

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guy you prioritize keeping. But I would weirdly think that

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even if you're gonna rope in other teams, So are

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you just not giving up any of your young players

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at this point? Is it kind of just like Okay,

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Isaiah Stewart's headed to New Orleans and we're gonna build

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out the package that way. Is that how low New

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Orleans is on paying Brandon Ingram moving them coward? Perhaps

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it gets to that point. I'm not giving up any

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first round picks as Detroit, that's for sure, especially for

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brandon Ingram. But in general, I don't love this one.

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But when you're looking at teams that maybe could talk

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themselves into getting Brendan Ingram and could feasibly have the

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flexibility to help New Orleans out there, Detroit certainly pops

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up on that list. The Golden State Warriors. Jimmy Butler,

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sign me up. Him and Draymond might kill each other.

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That's fine, I'd watch it. That's pretty cool. How do

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you get him there? I guess we're building a package

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like this is what's tough when you're dealing with these

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teams is that there's probably gonna need to be a

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third team in there, because Miami can't take back more

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money than it is sending out as of right now.

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So but if you're gonna build something around picks, are

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you sending out Jonathan Kaminga in this deal? I guess

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that depends on whether he signs an extension. If but

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Jimmy Butler has a player option. He's thirty five. What

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type of value does it take to get him out

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of Miami? Is this just a okay, it's a first

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round pick, or it's Moses Moody and Salary. I like

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the fit, though, I don't know what the package looks like.

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But the Warriors need a second best offensive player that

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is in line with other second best offensive players on contenders.

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Maybe Jonathan Kaminga or Brandon Pajemski gets there in time.

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I struggle to see them doing it in time enough

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for Steph's current window, let alone this season. Jimmy Butler

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certainly does that. He does, however, complicate your spacing, and

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your spacing's already it's not super complicated. You have Buddy Healed,

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the Anthony Melton can hit threes, Brandon Pajenski can hit threes,

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but you're gonna want more vue from him. You're gonna

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want more volume from Jonathan Kaminga and better efficiency as well.

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So you throw Jimmy Butler into that equation. You do

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it anyway for the talent play, but you almost invariably

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are gonna lose shooting in this deal. Because I'm assuming

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weird to say this about Andrew Wiggins, but he is.

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He could be an off ball spacer. Defense probably don't

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care too much about leaving him open anymore. But he

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can knock down those shots and he will take them.

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I would still do it. I want to make that clear.

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But you're then you know, between Buddy Heal and Steph

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and who's remaining what does that requisite spacing look like?

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The sheer talent though, I mean, if you're if you're

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the Warriors, you're probably I don't think the Heat would

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necessarily want Kaminga. If they're trading Butler, I'm sure they

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would take him, and maybe they would push for pods.

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They have to pay Kaminga after this year. So if

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you're keeping Kaminga Draymond and Steph and you have Butler,

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and then you're keeping pods as I mean, you just

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do it for this sheer talent play and Jimmy can

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create his own shot and when he gets downhill that

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room pressure, it will open up threes that are so

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wide open. Draymond Green would hit them. Cavon Looney Canna

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hit We're shooting threes now. Apparently I favor it. I

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like Jimmy Butler on Golden State. I really just want

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to see STEP's title with Hope. Oh, Kevin Durant to Houston.

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I favor this one as well. They have at me

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a dooka, who's a coach. We know Katie's always wanted

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to play for. I do think Wode sort of tipped

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his hand over the summer when he mentioned when the

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Rockets were acquiring Phoenix picks, they had their eye on

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Durant and he sprinkles in Devin Booker, I oddly don't.

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I mean for the Suns. If you can get back

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some of your own draft picks into the future from Phoenix,

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Hell yeah, you do it. I don't know if I

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love this for Houston, Like how good? How good does

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Houston have to be to have a thirty five, thirty

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six year old Kevin Durant on their roster. He's gonna

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come up on a new deal soon. He fits anywhere.

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I want to make that clear. But are you going

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to be contender worthy after that? Is that how you

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want to cash in all of your chips? I mean

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maybe if it's just two of the fiel let's just

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say it's two Phoenix picks, and who are you sending

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out what type of money. That gets calm implicated because

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the Rockets aren't sitting on a ton of these mega salaries.

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They're gonna have to step ladder their way to get

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to Kevin Durant. I guess if you want to use

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I mean, Phoenix doesn't need another guard. So you have

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Dylan Brooks who can qualify as a wing and you

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send him out with other salaries Jalen Green a part

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of that, and then pick so you could probably get

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there using two or three players, so that's not ridiculous.

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I just don't know if I'm Houston, if this is

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the guy I want to go all in on. Katie

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is one of the fifteen best players in NBA history,

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if not better than that, still in credit, still a

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top ten player for sure, someone who will pop up

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on MVP ballots if he's healthy. That's tough. It's ambitious

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for sure, though I think it depends on how many

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picks you have to include for me, because if it's

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just the two firsts and kind of the salaries I named,

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you do have people to pick up Dylan Brooks's slack,

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so I don't hate it, but if you have to

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give up more than two first round picks for him,

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and I'm Houston. I don't know that I would do it.

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I'd want someone more in line with my timeline, under

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contract for longer, but mostly the age thing. Indiana, Jeremy

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Grant done, favorit. Do this. I don't know how you

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do it? Though? Is like this is the void that

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Indy has. They have a path to a couple of

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lineups that could be really good defensively, but they still

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need that capslock wing defender. No one on the roster

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profiles as that certainly not Jaris Walker at the moment.

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Getting to Jeremy Grant's money is tough. Would they be

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willing to take him on too? When they just paid

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Siakam Sarry's Haliburton's on a max deal. Miles Turner's contract

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is going to be up after the season. You just

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extended nemhard that'll kick in next year. I do it

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and figure it out later. Getting to the money's a

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little bit complicated. You'd have to use toppin Do you

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have to use Naysmith in there? I'm assuming one of

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Jaris Walker. Ben mcmatherns included, I'm trying to keep Naysmith

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to be clear, at all costs, because you would still

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he's still valuable to that team. I would do it though,

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if they're willing to pay and you can make the

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contracts work, that's an excellent fit the Clippers. Zach Lavine.

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Here we are in with Dome is open and James

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Harden is the only healthy star on the Clippers. Paul

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George is gone, Kwhi Leonard is injured. Who could have

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predicted this? Maybe you could have predicted Paul George and

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Kwhi Leonard not being healthy enough, but James Harden being

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on the roster for this and one of those other

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two not eighteen months ago. I don't think anyone would

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have predicted that. Zack Lavine on the Clippers. I think

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at this point you're getting into they're just sending out

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money for him. I'm not giving up. They can trade

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a first round pick. I'm not giving up a first

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round pick if I'm the Clippers, just because of how

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shaky the future is. I'd probably do it though, because

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the offense could be a little rickety. You still have

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James Harden, he's thirty five, Kuhi is injured. Zack Levine

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can do more on the ball than Norman Powell getting

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the math to work. You have Norman Powell salary of PJ.

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Tucker's expiring contract that could certainly help. You have to

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you can't take back more money than you're sending out,

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but that shouldn't be too much of an issue. They

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could get there. I'd probably do it as long as

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there's no first round pick involved, And if I'm the Clippers,

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I'm probably doing this. Los Angeles Lakers Trey Young. This

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has been a name that doesn't really surprise me. Been

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floating on the Lakers lore for a while. This is

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tough because the basis of the Lakers' best package. I'm

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saying they give up all this, but it would be

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Dalton Connect, Bronni James, just kidding, Dalton Connect, two first

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round picks, three first round swaps, and Austin Reeves. You

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flesh out the money from there. If I'm getting Trey Young,

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I'm still trying to hold on to Austin Reeves. I

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think even if you believe they're redundant, I'd rather look

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at sending out the other salary filler types. D'Angelo Russell

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for sure, maybe even Ruy Hachima. Can you make it work?

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Jared Vanderbilt gave Vincent a lot of different options that

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you have to keep Anthony Davis and Lebron James in

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place and even Austin Reeves and kind of shuffle the

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pieces around them. I still think i'd probably want Ruey

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on the team after that, just because this the squad

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would still be barren of a real wing depth. But

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I would do it. I mean, if they're gonna if

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it's just the tube first and the swaps and then

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it's plus money and even Dalton connect, I'm doing it

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if I'm the Lakers. The question is is that enough

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for the Hawks to pull the trigger when they don't

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own or they don't control their next three first round picks.

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I don't know if that's enough. There's merit to just saying, well,

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if you think he's gonna leave, but he has two

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more years left on his deal before that player option,

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if he asks her out, maybe it's a different story.

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Is this what Trey Young's value is right now? Does

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he get as much does Michel Bridges got for Brooklyn

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from the Knicks? I don't know. I ultimately don't think

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the Lakers' best package. You throw Reeves in there. Let's

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say Reeves salary connect two first three swaps. Is that

469
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,759
enough for the Hawks to part with Trey Young? I

470
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000
probably do it if I'm a Lakers, because Trey Young

471
00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:38,440
is still really good. Does the resulting Los Angeles Lakers

472
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,880
product insulate him enough defensively? I don't really know. I

473
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,200
would do it, though that he elevates Lakers ceiling with

474
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,480
Lebron and Ad for sure, the Memphis Grizzlies Cam Johnson,

475
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,279
I don't. I don't hate it, but so we're viewing

476
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,480
him as their three? Or is he gonna play a

477
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,319
lot of four with Jared Jackson Junior at the five

478
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,680
with Zach e ede verret imagine not. I don't love that. Specifically,

479
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,400
do have the money without giving up one of their

480
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,119
core players to make it work? Maybe smart is involved there.

481
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960
You could step ladder your way with Lukenard and Brandon

482
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000
Clark of course in some draft equity. So just to

483
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:14,599
get some shooting, and like functional shooting, even if you're

484
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,920
not happy with Cam Johnson's percentages, He's a functional shooter,

485
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,680
can be moved around the court a little bit better

486
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,720
defensively than you think as well. I like this one.

487
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,720
I would prefer more of a wing, but Cam Johnson

488
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:28,880
at least comes close. He's to me have you him

489
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,799
is a combo forward, skewing more towards the four than

490
00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:34,440
someone who's kind of like a two three four positionally,

491
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:37,759
but that's not a He certainly helps Memphis, especially their

492
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:40,599
half court offense. Yes, some creation to him, but just

493
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000
the way he would open up the floor I think

494
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,200
would be a big deal for them. The Miami Heat

495
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,599
another Trey Young team, So I guess you're giving up

496
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000
in this. So if you have Jimmy Butler, Bamannebayo, and

497
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:57,039
Trey Young as your resulting corps done, But we run

498
00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:58,559
into the same issue we did with the Lakers. You

499
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,000
don't have a ton of first round picks to Trey.

500
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,839
I think they can give up to two and they

501
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,599
have some swaps and even if you can go up

502
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,680
to three, but I don't think they can. So you're

503
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,799
looking at that. Plus, what what's the salary you have?

504
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,319
Terry Rozier, Tyler hero Duncan Robinson is your primary matching tools.

505
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,559
If you get out of this deal without giving up,

506
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,200
how may Hawk is done? I won't. We don't even

507
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920
talk about it any further. For the Heat, I think

508
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,279
Trey Young. He's a good fit next to Jimmy Butler,

509
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,240
who can work off the ball, but they do compliment

510
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,480
each other nicely, and also just with Butler potentially aging out. However,

511
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,519
I just don't know if the Heat's best package is

512
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,920
enough for the Hawks to say, we have no real

513
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,759
incentive to get worse with our picks headed to San

514
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:39,519
Antonio over the next three years, but the Heater giving

515
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:41,440
us so much that we're gonna make this deal anyway.

516
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,279
If Imai Hawks is involved, it becomes a conversation, but

517
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,039
I don't know if it's one that the Hawks would

518
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:53,440
jump on board with Trey up to Miami does make

519
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:57,440
some sense, though. The Milwaukee Bucks Jordan Clarkson ambitious because

520
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,839
the Bucks are a second Apron team and they can't

521
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,559
send out more than one player, they can't aggregate salaries,

522
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,200
and they can't take back more money than they receive.

523
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240
So I don't even know, off rip, if Bobby Portis

524
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,519
makes more than Jordan Clarkson, he might, and if he does,

525
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,519
so you're looking at kind of a straight up deal there.

526
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:20,400
I don't know why Utah is doing that. You could

527
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,920
include some seconds, I suppose, but like really greasing the

528
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,279
wheels of this package becomes kind of a chore, which

529
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200
is to go through all those hoops just to wind

530
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:36,440
up with Jordan Clarkson. Probably he's so he's at thirteen

531
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,880
point four million this year, and Jordan Clarkson, I know

532
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,799
he's on that the declining contract. What is he actually

533
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,119
on though for this season? Fourteen point two? So that's

534
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,000
you can't even get him for Bobby Portis. Straight up,

535
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,680
you can't aggregate salaries unless you're going to wind up

536
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:58,000
below the apron. That's ambitious, because we're talking at that

537
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,079
point that you're gonna have to give a wait, No,

538
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,880
he's at fourteen point one, are we there? We're still

539
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,039
not there. Bobby Portis is at twelve point six with

540
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,039
a player, Yeah, no, So this is ambitious. So you're

541
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:14,119
gonna get Jordan Clarkson is kind of like a Brook

542
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,160
for compensation for Brook Lopez or Chris Middleton and part

543
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,519
of this bigger deal. I get what you're doing here

544
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:25,039
by giving the Bucks more shot creation. I probably the

545
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200
hoops they would have to jump through though to make

546
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,519
this work. I'm not I'm not doing it. I don't

547
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:32,079
I don't love it anymore. That easier path there last

548
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:38,400
season Timberwolves, Jeremy Grant. That's interesting Jeremy Grant as what

549
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,160
I'm assuming you're using Randall. But then again, you can't

550
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,519
aggregate salaries here, so who is the does Andy mention

551
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,119
who he would be sending out? That's okay, Randall's ball down.

552
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,559
It's a tricky fit, but you can't. That's not gonna

553
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,039
work straight up though, and the Timbers are still a

554
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,839
second apron team, so unless you're trading, you know, and

555
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,279
the Edwards or Rudy Gobert. At that point, I don't

556
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:07,359
see a path to making this work, specifically because Julius

557
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,720
Randall's a sub thirty million and Jeremy Grant's north of

558
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,559
thirty million, So just a straight up swap isn't gonna work.

559
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:20,039
So a little too ambitious here the fit overall, if

560
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,079
it was just instead of Julius Randall, Let's say Julius

561
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,160
still has He's a better passer by far, the better rebounder.

562
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,160
Two has more on bow, gravity, on drives, grants, more

563
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,640
plug and play. If you trust in Rob Dillingham, I

564
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,359
just don't know. If I like you have Jade McDaniels there,

565
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,079
I think you need someone with more ball skills, especially

566
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:40,200
if you're gonna pay him that number the Pelicans DeAndre eight.

567
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,839
I don't hate the premise. I reject the idea that

568
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,960
this is ambitious. I think Ayton's trade value has fallen

569
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,759
through the floor, and while he had a very strong

570
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:52,799
close to last season, and I think you could envision

571
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,599
him being better in New Orleans where he will have

572
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,480
better playmakers to tee things up for him in de

573
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:02,559
Jonte Murray, Zion william Since specifically, and then also I

574
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:04,599
don't know if I'll have more room to work. But

575
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,599
the fact that he doesn't provide a ton of rim

576
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,880
pressure for a big is not something that will hinder

577
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,079
the Pelicans as much because he's a good mid range

578
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:14,480
shooter and Zion Linson is going to get to the

579
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:17,720
basket anyway. So I think the fit is okay, but

580
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,559
I don't think it's ambitious. If anything, there needs to

581
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,599
be kind of a larger package here where. What else

582
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,279
are you getting from Portland if you're giving up brandon

583
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,640
ingram as part of this deal because you don't want

584
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,480
eight and to be the primary compensation there. Although a

585
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,960
lot of Pelicans fans have jumped aboard the let's trade

586
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,519
brandon Ingram for Walker Kessler, John Collins Bandwagon. So maybe

587
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,839
maybe this does do it for them, The New York

588
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,839
Knicks Marcus Smart. This is per report, This has been reported.

589
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Excuse me that they're interested. Someone told me yours truly,

590
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,640
that the interest is serious. I don't get it. I

591
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,680
am a Douce McBride optimist, and so I could simply say,

592
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
you have Marcus Smart at home as a better shooter,

593
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,480
not as talented as a passer, for a fifth of

594
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,640
the cost or whatever. We don't need to go in

595
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,680
that territory. I just what hole is he filling on

596
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,119
this team that I think needs secondary playmaking. They could

597
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,359
use some properly sized wings coming off the bench. Smart

598
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680
does defend like a wing slash big, so I understand

599
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:19,200
the thought process there. But to get him at that point,

600
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,480
you're gonna have to use now right now. You could

601
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:25,119
do Mitchell Robinson deuce and then all these other like

602
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,759
like you have Pocom Dottie you could throw in there

603
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680
so you can get there. But I'm assuming this is

604
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:35,279
post trade deadline precious Robinson and then a smaller salary

605
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:39,599
for Smart in a vacuum. That's not the worst, but

606
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,799
what are you doing to your big man situation? At

607
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,680
that point, you have Karl, Anthony Towns, and Jericho Simms left.

608
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,599
Are you getting back Santi Aldama? Can you work it

609
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,319
so that that pans out here? Maybe I like it

610
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,000
a little bit more. I still think i'd rather the Knicks.

611
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,920
If you're gonna trade Mitch and Precious in the same package,

612
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,720
you need to make sure that you're getting back a

613
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,200
big and I would prefer this. A lot of teams

614
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680
can say this probably more of a wing type and

615
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,160
someone who will not even improved, but perhaps not jeopardize

616
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,759
your spacing and smart will make more sense in five

617
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:15,279
out lineups if you're substituting him in for Josh Hart

618
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,440
because he gets those threes up there. But is he

619
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,160
as talented of a shooter as just Duce McBride. Let's

620
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,680
say you probably trust Duce McBride's jumper spot up jumper

621
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920
a little bit more. At this point, I get it,

622
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,319
and it's ambitious. I don't I don't love it, but

623
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,559
I don't necessarily have alternatives for the Knicks unless you

624
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,680
want to. You know, I'm a big Tomani Kamara guy,

625
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,599
and I'd like to see him go get him Oklahoma

626
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,960
City Thunder Trey Murphy again. Yeah, So Oklahoma City's potential

627
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,359
two weaknesses would be do they have enough shot creation

628
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,759
because they're shay and then you're still kind of waiting

629
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,119
on all right, we have Isaiah Hart and Stein adds

630
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:52,359
another dynamic there. We assume Chet and Jay will j

631
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Dubb excuse me, will improve and then you have Aaron

632
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,920
Wiggins off the bench can kind of do some of it,

633
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,599
but like that's like, that's not Alex Caruso's game either,

634
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440
or it would just be motion shooting to where it's

635
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,799
you have a guy like Isaiah Joe, and you have

636
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,759
guys who will get shots up. But Isaiah Joe's really

637
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,079
the only one on the team, especially now that Lindy

638
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,119
Waters is gone, will fly around and take those threes.

639
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,720
And I think he works on defense, like works hard,

640
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,799
but he could compromise your defense at points. Trey Murphy

641
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,960
won't necessarily do that. And there's the fact of the

642
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,880
matter is that Trey murf just is a higher ceiling

643
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,680
than a lot of the players I just mentioned. There's

644
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,480
also some on ball exploration that Oklahoma City could tap into,

645
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,319
and in their spacing environment, he might be filthy. I

646
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,640
just what are you overloading New Orleans with at that point?

647
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,359
Just picks in salary? Is the deal any bigger? Or

648
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,799
because he makes such a small salary, so you can

649
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,839
make it work like you have. You have Dylan Jones

650
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,440
that you like. You have these smaller salaries that you

651
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,319
could annown, plus a bunch of picks. But I think

652
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
New Orleans is going to be looking for bodies and

653
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:58,759
you don't have any cheap o bigs. I mean Kenrich

654
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:02,960
Williams Jay will actually consent those out. Is that moving

655
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
the needle for New Orleans? Are you expanding this to

656
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,720
when Isaiah hart and Stein is trade eligible and it's

657
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,079
hart and Stein for like CG. McCollum and Trey Murphy

658
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,480
and like picks are attached to there. I don't like

659
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,559
Oklahoma City's not gonna be a brandon Ingram team this to.

660
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,720
I love the fit, so it's right along, It's it's

661
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,440
on the ambitious spectrum properly. I just don't see a

662
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,839
pathway to it happening onto the Orlando Magic Darius Garland yep.

663
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,000
Right type of fit, right level of ambition. They need

664
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,519
to juice up their offense. I don't think KCP does

665
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,279
enough if you what they have right now is definitely

666
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,480
a vote of confidence in Suggs, in Paulo, in Franz Wagner.

667
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,960
I don't know if that's enough. Are you gonna count

668
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,039
Anthony Black to develop into kind of a floor general

669
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:48,559
type with some diverse shot making from the perimeter? Mate

670
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,559
like Jet Howard gives you some of the diverse shot

671
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,960
making if you're gonna play him, but not enough of

672
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,640
the creation or the passing. Darius Garland is potentially everything,

673
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,680
shaky finisher around the rim, not the best defender, but

674
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,599
Orlando as the personnel to insulate him. Just when you

675
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400
look at Cleveland and what they would want from Orlando,

676
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,640
what do you really get in? They might want KCP

677
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,119
once he's trade eligible. You could build packages with picks.

678
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Maybe Tristan da Silva is thrown in there, so you

679
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,039
could certainly get there. I don't know Cleveland would have

680
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,559
interest in Jonathan Isaac when Evan Mobley and Jared Allen

681
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,880
are there. I do think Cleveland's more likely to trade,

682
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,839
let's say, break up the Bigs than they are to

683
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,240
break up the Guards. But if Garland shake shakes loose,

684
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,200
Orlando should absolutely be one of the teams that are

685
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,000
first in mind to get him Philadelphia seventy six Yers,

686
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:37,200
Kevin Herder. I see this. They could use the capslock shooting.

687
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:40,880
Getting to his money would require multiple salaries once kJ

688
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,720
Martin is ready to be traded. I'm curious why Sacramento

689
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,039
would do this or are they gonna have an interest

690
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,839
in I don't think any team's gonna have an interest

691
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,079
in kJ Martin Junior specifically, but he's an expiring contract. Basically,

692
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680
who else are you throwing in there? I don't I'm

693
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,000
assume you're not giving up Caleb Martin you do have.

694
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:06,480
They're not gonna want Jared McCain. Kelly you Bridgejr. Has

695
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,960
the salary for sure at eight million, But do the

696
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:12,679
Kings need a Kelly Oubridger. They would be doing this

697
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
strictly for the picks, or it's a three team trade

698
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239
where it's picks are going somewhere and then someone else.

699
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,360
Maybe is DFS going to Sacramento. I don't know. And

700
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,559
if Dorrie Finny Smith is on the table, I probably

701
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,480
prefer him for Philly just because I think they need

702
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,800
more front court defensive help right now. They're very reliant

703
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,239
on Paul George and Joel Embiid, both of whom as

704
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,559
we talk right now, folks are injured. So I don't

705
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:40,920
think this is ambitious enough for Philly. The Sons, Kelly

706
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,559
Olynik get a stretch big in here. We're just saying

707
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,719
that we don't want bootenholes to have any kind of

708
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,599
a plus defenders on the front line get into his money.

709
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,880
Is Is he cheap enough for the Sons to use

710
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,280
their No, he's not cheap enough for the Sons to

711
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,760
use their Josha Kogi been trade exception. That's not gonna

712
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,480
be something that flies. It would have to be Grayson

713
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,960
Allen because he makes more than Royce O'Neil, does he not?

714
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,559
Kelly Linnock is making, like isn't he making? It's under

715
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,400
the mid level, So there's there's that, But I think

716
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,199
he's making like twelve or something like that. This year

717
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,480
He's at twelve point eight million, And so it has

718
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,800
to be a straight up swap, and that means that

719
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,280
you're sending out Grayson Allen or use of Nurkic, which

720
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,559
I would consider doing, but what is that doing to

721
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,920
your defense? Like honestly so? And which team wants Nurkic.

722
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,239
Do you then have to include picks on top of that.

723
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:41,480
That's tough. It's ambitious. Anyone for the Suns is ambitious,

724
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:43,920
But if you're gonna skew big, it needs to be

725
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,159
a defensive upgrade, not just someone who's gonna upgrade the

726
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,400
spacing here. So I kind of think at once this

727
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:52,400
is ambitious, but it's the wrong type. It's the wrong

728
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,239
target for the Suns to be ambitious with. We have

729
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Ruy hot Chimoor. Again for the Portland Trailblazers. I don't

730
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,639
necessarily know why this is ambitious for them. They have

731
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Denni Havia to Monti Kamara, they have Jeremy Grant. Still,

732
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,159
I guess we're assuming for this that they're going to

733
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,480
be trading Jeremy Grant to the Lakers, and so let's

734
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:13,440
target Ruey Hachimra and picks, and then another salary is compensation.

735
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:15,960
That's fine. I think I would probably just list the

736
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,760
Lakers first round picks in that equation. Then Ruy would work.

737
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,559
And I mean, he's cheaper than Jeremy Grant. How much

738
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,599
of Jeremy Grant does he replicate as a shot creator

739
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,639
not for others Before himself, maybe more than you think,

740
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:33,280
But like Jeremy Grant just has years of being on

741
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,639
a couple of bad teams, is proof that he can

742
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,639
generate from scratch. Maybe you don't want to see him

743
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,840
doing that too much there. I think you can argue

744
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,800
that ruy Hachimore's contract is just more valuable than Jeremy Grant,

745
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,920
and so if that's how you want to frame it fair,

746
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,639
Grant is the better player, though, So I'm definitely I

747
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,840
want Lakers first, at least one of them coming out

748
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,360
of that deal. And if you had to identify a

749
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,239
player as that specific package that you would want more

750
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,519
than Dalton connector even Austin, you have Shaydon Sharp and

751
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,800
Anthony Simon's and Scoot Henderson, I probably would pick Ruyacha Mora.

752
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,800
I just wonder is it ambitious enough? Can you go

753
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,480
to a Can we talk about a different team that

754
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:14,079
has maybe more of a like Jaris Walker from Indy?

755
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:16,800
Maybe I don't. You don't know. Again, you have Avdia,

756
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,719
you have Kamara, you have some other bigs that don't shoot,

757
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
but take the higher end swing on someone like a

758
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,360
Jaris Walker. If you're giving up a Jeremy Glarant I

759
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,639
think that's the proper amount of ambitious. The Sacramento Kings

760
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,559
with Marcus Smart, is that ambitious and is it a

761
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:33,880
good fit? Let's just say it's ambitious. He's making over

762
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,679
twenty million dollars. You have Kevin Herder as part of

763
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,519
the salary package, and Memphis could definitely talk itself into shooting.

764
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,239
They also need wing defense, though, are you giving up

765
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,119
Devin Carter, the injured Devin Carter for Smart? I wouldn't

766
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:48,840
are giving up a future first. I probably wouldn't either,

767
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,719
So you're kind of just step laddering salaries there if

768
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
that's all it takes, sure, because I think, look, you

769
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:58,119
have Kean Allison, Keegan Murray, if you had Marcus Smart,

770
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,679
that's a lot of perimeter defense of weaponry to insulate

771
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,199
around DeMar De Rosen and Sabonis. I still just the

772
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,039
King's offense should still be very high powered. But if

773
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:10,360
you're gonna get rid of her her who has not

774
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,280
been great, you know, dating back to the twenty twenty

775
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,079
twenty three playoffs, I understand that, But now we're starting

776
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,280
to get into you have all this offensive talent, do

777
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,360
you have enough bankuble spacing maybe between Ellis Murray and

778
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,039
Fox and then just the round Sabonis and de Rosen

779
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:27,639
and Smart does get the shots up. I I semi

780
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:29,880
like this one as long as you're not giving up

781
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
a first round pick or Devin Carter. That's where I

782
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:35,679
would land on it. The Spurs Jimmy Butler, this is

783
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,320
ambitious times five million, probably do I like the fit

784
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Jimmy Butler and Chris Paul on the same team. That's

785
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,199
a special type of mentality. Those are two that might

786
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,400
try to kill each other. What are you giving up?

787
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,320
They have a bunch of first round picks, they have

788
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,639
salaries to make it work. I'm assuming Kelden Johnson would

789
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,840
be involved, so you're fleshing this out kind of with

790
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000
Keldon Johnson. I guess the Heat if they're the Heater,

791
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360
an't gonna want picks some asuming if they're trading Jimmy Butler,

792
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,760
because that it would signal that they're rebuilding. So you're

793
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,800
sending out his forty eight point eight million dollars salary,

794
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,280
that's a lot of that's a lot of ground to

795
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,320
make up. San Antonio does not there's flexibility for them

796
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,800
via trade, but they just used up the rest of

797
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,840
their cap. Space on bringing back Jalen McDaniels. You have

798
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,559
Harrison Barnes's money. If you want to match so Keldon Johnson,

799
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,000
Harrison Barnes, Zach Collins, you can get the money pretty easily. Actually,

800
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,679
now how many picks are you're including to make that

801
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,039
work then would be the question. And like, does Jeremy

802
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,280
Sohan does he have any value to Miami is kind

803
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,599
of a prospect. If he does, doesn't make the matching

804
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,760
any easier, but it does bode well for your your

805
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,000
trade package because you could go Keldon Johnson and Harrison

806
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,880
Barnes brings you to thirty seven plus, so hand like

807
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,280
that probably gets you there money wise, and then just

808
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,440
shower the heat with picks, maybe try and prioritize keep

809
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,159
it like giving up I think if I'm the Spurs,

810
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:57,960
I'm trying to give up my own picks in this

811
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,840
scenario rather than Atlanta's or Minnesota's. They have that Chicago

812
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,719
one too. I might give that up just because the

813
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,039
Bulls are projected to be so bad. But you ca

814
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,119
catch my drift of all the different kind of first

815
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,639
round picks that San Antonio owns. They have that Boston

816
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,880
distant swap too, I'm probably like I would give up

817
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,159
multiple Spurs picks plus Sohan, Keldon Johnson and Barnes for Butler.

818
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,639
Even that might be too steep, with Butler being thirty

819
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,199
five and headed towards a new contract. But if it's

820
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,880
two first protected first, I'm doing this. Don't necessarily love

821
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,159
the requisite spacing or the resulting spacing, but it could.

822
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,199
I mean, he makes them better. Uh, and but Wemby

823
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,800
plus Vasell plus Jimmy Butler the hell of a three

824
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,039
man combo and you still have I mean, would Stephan

825
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,119
Castle turn into in this scenario? My spicy take would be,

826
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,519
would you consider moving Stephan Castle for a man keeping

827
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:55,840
all these other picks? You probably wouldn't, So it's ambitious

828
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,519
and I don't hate the fit. I would like someone

829
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,480
who improves the spacing around Wemby a little bit more,

830
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,360
because we know Paul and Trey Jones aren't going to

831
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
take or make a ton of threes did over Jimmy Butler.

832
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,639
We're just having all that secondary creation around Wemby and

833
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,639
then just a healthy vasselle. I thought made some strides

834
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,280
defensively last year. Plus Butler plus Wemby, that's defensive hell fire.

835
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,960
It doesn't matter if so Han's there or not. Now

836
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,760
you also could say, if the heater WI want to

837
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,679
take back Zach Collins his money and you can keep

838
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Harrison Barnes that I like to trade a lot better.

839
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,719
You would have to probably include more, you know, if

840
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,000
it's so hand and two first, is that enough to

841
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,760
get them to take on Caldon Johnson and Zach Collins?

842
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,039
Would you include a third first or something smaller or

843
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,559
Malachi Brandnum or what have you to just sweeten the

844
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,360
package a little bit. But that's the route that makes

845
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,559
it more appealing, because I think that the Spurs would

846
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,880
still need some kind of offensive spacing there. Nearing the end, folks,

847
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,920
can you feel it? We're on to the Toronto Raptors.

848
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,679
Goko Batadz. This is the mark of a team that

849
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,159
has no idea which direction it's headed in. And I

850
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,960
think that the Raptors are rebuilding, but they're interesting in

851
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,719
the sense that they've already given out second contracts or

852
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,840
Scottie Barnes's case extension agreements, yaka Pearl's on his third contract. RJ.

853
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,760
Barrett's making a whole lot of money. So they're rebuilding,

854
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,719
but they're about to be an expensive rebuild, and it

855
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,320
feels like they are kind of constructed to react to

856
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,280
where Okay, if they're better than expected, they will stay

857
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,519
the course, maybe even go for upgrades like oh we

858
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,559
need some more center help and we're gonna go after

859
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:27,440
Gogo Pa Toadse or if they're bad, then they'll just

860
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,880
strip it down around Scottie Barnes. Everyone else can be

861
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,159
moved around. Maybe they view Grady Dick as part of

862
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:34,840
the core and you kind of start for more square one.

863
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,000
I don't know if I love, like, does that make

864
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,800
go Goo batadzey ambitious? I would say no, He's not

865
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,639
making a ton of money. If your goal is to

866
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,760
as the Raptors, just send out someone that has no

867
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,280
value and get go Goo Batadz or to get him

868
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,280
without giving up a pick. Okay, sure, but like what

869
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,480
is the like you're kind of looking at Gogoaa Toadzasa

870
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,280
and Davion Mitchell territory or you could use Kelly Olynik

871
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,360
slash Chris Bouchet as like starting points, but then you

872
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,719
might need to take back someone else from Orlando in

873
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,880
that scenario, because Gogo Patadz is at Gobata is at

874
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,119
nine million this year. How did I miss? I didn't

875
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,360
realize it was that much money. So yeah, you could

876
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,320
do Chris Bouchet or Kelly Olynik would the magic Well?

877
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,239
I mean, I love Chris Bouchet. He's a floors basing

878
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,199
rim protector at his heart, So sure. I don't know

879
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,800
if it's ambitious though, And I don't know that I

880
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,199
if you trust Patadze's defense and you're worried about Toronto's

881
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
rim protection because Yaka Pertle has slipped a little bit,

882
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,599
he can still be a deterrent. Sure. Uh, ambitious though,

883
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:38,000
I guess for their direction, I understand they're equivocating. It's

884
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,000
ambitious enough. I wouldn't say it's very inspiring, though. The

885
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:47,079
Jazz with Trey Young, whoo, that's ambitious. They have the

886
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,800
assets to get Inlanta to move him, that's for sure,

887
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,960
independent of where Atlanta's own draft picks are headed. Should

888
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,719
they be going that route? You have Larry Market in

889
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,679
an All Star, You've paid him, maybe, and like so

890
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,679
Trey Young, and is Colin Sexton going out in that deal?

891
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,559
I'm assuming maybe both Sexton and Clarkston. They're not gonna

892
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,440
take Colins back, so you need some kind of salary

893
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,880
matching tools. He here and Trey Young is one of

894
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,320
the like more difficult trade pieces to move because he's

895
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,400
making over forty million. He's at about forty three million.

896
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:26,199
And so if you're utah, the basis of just matching

897
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,400
up the money, I mean, it's pretty you get to

898
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Clarkson and Sexton, that's thirty two million right there, So

899
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:35,800
it's not that hard. So you're giving up both of them,

900
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,159
which young players? Then are you giving up Keyante George?

901
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:42,559
Is that what it takes plus picks? I don't. I

902
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:44,199
don't know if I hate it. I just you have

903
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,920
to believe that. Okay, you know you're not. I would

904
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,639
assume you have to keep Cody Williams as part of

905
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,159
this deal. That would They just don't have a ton

906
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,599
of defense on this team perimeter wise, to begin with.

907
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,320
You're keeping Walker Kessler because they have onyekakung Wu and

908
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Clin Capella, and again you want you need that baseline

909
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,079
rim protection. I'm probably fighting to keep Taylor Hendricks as well,

910
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,880
again just for the defense. So if you're telling me

911
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,360
that you have Walker Kessler, Taylor Hendrix, Cody Williams, and

912
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,440
Trey Young and Larry Marketing is kind of your base.

913
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,440
That's an interesting team, and you've probably cut you if

914
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,679
you want to. You could probably keep Keyante George too.

915
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,880
You have enough picks to make it happen. But I'm

916
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,800
assuming the basis of a package would be the Hawksters

917
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
loading up on guards that are making a ton of money.

918
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:28,840
Or there's maybe a three team scenario where John Collins

919
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,559
is headed out because he takes up a bulk of

920
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:34,800
the salary matching. But a lineup of Trey Young, Larry

921
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:42,679
market In, Cody Williams, Taylor Hendrix, and Walker Kessler. I mean, like,

922
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,280
that's a lot of size around Trey Young. But who

923
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,880
do you view as your two? I guess it's it's

924
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,559
Lowry in that instance, So maybe that's not a lineup

925
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:51,960
you're running out, But I don't hate it. You still

926
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:53,840
just feel a little light. Then when it comes to

927
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,679
perimeter players, you could probably work it so that you're

928
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,679
keeping Sextonner Clarkson. But do you want to play either

929
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,960
of them next to Trey Young. This is ambitious, not

930
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,679
in the sense it's it's oddly ambitious in the sense

931
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
not that they can't get him, and it'll take a

932
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,000
lot to get him. It will, but they just have

933
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so many assets it doesn't matter. It's ambitious in the

934
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sense of should the jazz fucking do it? I honestly,

935
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I'd like to see what happens after they do. But

936
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my my prerequisite for all of this, they're probably they won't.

937
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:25,679
They probably wouldn't do it. If you are going to

938
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do it, though, I need Taylor Hendrix, Walker Castler, and

939
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Cody Williams all still in a Utah uniform just for

940
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:34,440
the defensive optionality there. That's where I'm at. And those

941
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three plus marketing plus Young it's a nice little base there.

942
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I don't know if it's the skeleton of a future contender,

943
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:45,519
but ooh, the Wizards with Jay and Ivy. I don't

944
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think they need to go this route because you have

945
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bub Carrington, who I'm a big believer in. But you'll

946
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,280
probably want a number of guys to go do things

947
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on the ball. If we assume that Kyle Kuzma's not

948
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,199
long for Washington, that need will increase. Here's an interesting question.

949
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Not giving up any first round picks. Is Washington for

950
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
j and Ivy? It just doesn't make any sense. So

951
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,320
if you're Detroit, just as the basis of a package.

952
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,039
Are you considering you're not punting on Jay and Ivy

953
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,480
for Malcolm Brogden, are you? I'm assuming not if there's

954
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:18,199
first round picks involved, maybe so, I guess you're looking at.

955
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,199
Is Kyle Kuzma kind of like the outline of an offer?

956
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:26,360
Maybe there Washington's want to include Keshawn George. I wouldn't

957
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,760
if I were them. I kind of like him, had

958
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,719
Tim Matt Maderno for turning me on to him before

959
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,440
we recorded our Our look Ahead. But then there's more

960
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,480
moving parts that need to be involved. So, but you

961
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:38,039
have Kyle Kuzma at twenty three and a half. Don't know.

962
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,039
If I love his fit in Detroit, it could work,

963
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,159
But him and Tobias Harris is a little weird. I

964
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,400
don't think Washington has the juice, like it would have

965
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,960
to be something like Corey Kisbert for Jay and Ivy.

966
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,719
Basically that's the basis of an offer, and maybe you

967
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,400
include someone or something else in there. I do like

968
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,400
where the ambition is at here though, where it's we

969
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,800
want someone who projects as a long term floor general.

970
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,639
Maybe we don't believe that Bob Carrington is it. We

971
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
know Jordan Poole, is not it? Malcolm Brogden certainly, isn't it.

972
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,360
I'm just if you're moving Jay n Ivy as the Pistons,

973
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,320
that's the I'm assuming you would want a first or

974
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,480
a prospect equivalent of it is even worth that right now?

975
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,760
His just based off what he's done in the NBA.

976
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,679
Maybe it's not all his fault because he's playing for

977
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,400
Monnie Williams in Minnie Williams's doghouse last year. He has

978
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,880
one of the more complicated trade values in the NBA

979
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,239
right now. I don't know what I would give up

980
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,079
for it, because if you're telling me Washington needs to

981
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,480
give up a first, I'm not doing it because I

982
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:41,480
think that's too much. If it's a top twenty, if

983
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:45,000
it's that Warriors top twenty protected first, sure go ahead

984
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,199
have at it. But like beyond that, I don't. I don't.

985
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,519
If I'm would you give Corey Kisbert? I guess for

986
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,880
a flyer and kiss Bert's about to be paid, so

987
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,320
I would consider it, and he's certainly someone who could

988
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,199
work in Detroit. But it was a kiss Bert in

989
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,239
seconds and are you're just throwing in a hey, like

990
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,039
have a Jared Butler here or something. I don't know, Man,

991
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,559
that is fascinating. That is fascinating, though, I like I

992
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,840
think when we're looking at the ambitious scale, your head's

993
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,639
in the right place. Andy, I just don't see a

994
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,239
pathway for it. But that's kind of the point. These

995
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,400
are ambitious is supposed to make me think like this. Well, folks,

996
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,719
that was an incredibly interesting exercise, especially to do it

997
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,880
this time of year. Loved a lot of these suggestions.

998
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Wasn't crazy about all of them. Hope you enjoyed the content, though,

999
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we will have look ats continuing to roll out along

1000
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with our awards predictions. I've also set up just as

1001
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a spoiler alert, I've been asking all of our experts

1002
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,559
what their biggest storyline is for these teams. And I'm

1003
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gonna cobble those answers together and it'll be one big episode.

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And so if you've listened to all the episodes, it's

1005
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:48,480
not new content, But did you remember all their answers?

1006
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How do they kind of square away now that we're

1007
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weeks removed from some of those being recorded. I also

1008
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,480
have a lineups one that I've been asking them, so

1009
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it'll be about crunch time units and lineups they should try.

1010
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That'll be a fun one. And then Grant and I, well,

1011
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we'll hammer out sort of what the publishing schedule will

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