Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big
Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, DJ Leaves.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, we are live on this Thursday evening
stream time.
Speaker 1: It is still Thursday.
Speaker 2: Afternoon out in Vegas for the Canelo Crawford upcoming humongous fight.
Speaker 1: I am merely a somewhat capable host. TJ. Reeves.
Speaker 2: Hello to our insider, Big Dan Rayfield. Good afternoon. Where
you are as the anticipation builds for this undisputed super
middleweight title fight.
Speaker 1: You are there.
Speaker 2: You are there among them and have been around it
and have been a busy guy. Good to be with you,
live here exclusively to start off on our Big Fight
Weekend YouTube page. My friend, good to be back with you.
Speaker 3: Good to be with you. It's gonna be uh. I've
been here, Holy, I've been here like twenty four hours.
I feel like I've been here for a week.
Speaker 1: It has been a bit of a grind.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like a good It is a good thing.
Speaker 2: He's hit the ground running with his track shoes. He's
making like Carl Lewis. There's a reference to the eighties again.
If you are finding us live, thank you on the
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later on the audio podcast. Obviously, we did this live
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in the evening. Thank you for finding us, however you
have found us. For those of you that are watching live,
feel free to get some comments in as we go along.
We're gonna be previewing, obviously the main event with Canello
defending the four super middleweight titles against a two division
super two division undisputed.
Speaker 1: Champion himself in Terrence Crawford.
Speaker 2: We should say upfront, you interviewed Canelo Alvarez on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: They can see the video.
Speaker 2: The YouTube audience that's watching us, they can see that
video on this page. For the podcast audience that's hearing us.
I'm gonna keep all this straight. You'll hear it here
in a little bit that you interviewed can.
Speaker 1: But Dan, let's begin right there.
Speaker 2: You spoke with him, as the build up is is
well underway here. What about getting a chance to chat
with Canelo? And I thought it was very interesting revealing
on a couple of fronts. What about going one on
one with Canelo as you did on Wednesday?
Speaker 3: Well, to me, anyway, it's not a Canelo fight U
till I do my interview with him. I've probably done
a one on one interview with Canelo. I mean before
I couldn't even count. I mean it's probably ten or
fifteen fights in a row. I mean something along those lines.
It's kind of like I used to do interviews when
Vladimir Klitchko was the heavyweight champion. He used to joke
with me we would have an interview, not I mean,
I did my interview with Canelo during fight week on
the Wednesday. With Ladimir would be a couple of weeks
before the fight. He didn't feel like he was getting
ready for a fight unless he did the interview with me,
and I got the feeling. It's kind of like that
with Canelo because it's been so many times, through so
many years, through so many big fights. But it was
good to talk to me, you know. I'm always interested
to see, like what this sort of feeling, sort of
like the bodylane, which how he sounds like his enthusiasm
level for the event. I can tell you one thing,
he's way more excited to do this fight than he
was when I spoke to him before the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on that point, way way yeah, on that point.
He said that to you in one of his comments,
almost in passing, and I know he's doing much better
with the English and with whatever he said, I didn't
really want to fight, meaning I think because of Saudi
Arabia early in the morning. I thought that was honesty,
and it was interesting honesty.
Speaker 3: Follow up on that, it was more than just that.
I don't think it was anything against Saudi Arabia or
anything like that, but the timing was messed up, But
it was more because he did the fight at six
or six thirty in the morning to accommodate his audience
in the United States and Mexico. But I think it
was more because of the way that the way that
that skull fought him, where it was very obvious that
he was not there to fight and just to survive.
And you know, canel obeyed the point that at some
point in that fight, it's no longer about making a
good fight, It's about I need to win because I
got bigger business to attend to. With Crawford, it was
ringside and everybody knew that when the fight was over,
as long as he had his hand raised, that they
would face off in the ring and Turkey, Ali Chic
would announce the fights, and that's exactly what happened. So
you know, some people will say, Okay, that's maybe an excuse.
Others might say canelos washed. Whatever it is, we'll find
out what the real deal is on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I suppose absolutely Again for those that are just joining us,
and a lot of live audiences joining us along the way.
Speaker 1: We are live on this.
Speaker 2: Thursday night here on YouTube previewing the Canelo Alvarez Terence
Crawford upcoming undisputed super middleweight battle that will take place
Saturday night in Las Vegas, and we'll be you'll be
able to see it with your Netflix subscription.
Speaker 1: That's another big part of this. I thought one more point.
Speaker 2: When Canelo was talking to you, you said, you know, hey,
is this the biggest that you've had? You fought Floyd Mayweather,
you fought Codo, you fought Glovekin three times, the first
two which were tremendous with huge interest in them. And
he said this may be the biggest ultimately because of Crawford,
because of the Netflix audience. He said, this may be
biggest in terms of audience. So I wonder what do
you think of all that?
Speaker 3: Well, the reason I asked him that TJ was because
when he did his grand arrivals on Tuesday, I wasn't here.
I didn't get here until Wednesday. But I watched back
when he stopped and did like a little scrum and
such with some of the press guys, and so when
that happened, I heard him say that he felt like
this was the biggest fight of his career, and that
sort of like took me back, because, yeah, this is
a huge fight. I'm not in any way, shape or
form downplaying you downplaying this fight at all. But when
you said you fought Triple G, you fought Floyd, you
fought Codo, you fought Covilev, you fought you know, undisputed fights,
you fought you know, the Billy Joe Saunders fight, a
record crowd for United States indoor attendance, had a lot
of huge fights. He walked it back a little, Yeah,
this is one of the biggest, but still it's a
huge fight because in his mind he knows how good
Crawford is and maybe not tested as a super middleweight,
but certainly as the other way classes that he has
been involved in. And also because as he mentioned, it
is netflix so the audience in terms of the eyeballs
on this fight has the potential to be the biggest fight.
It probably will be the biggest fight he's ever had,
because as big as those fights were against TRIPLEG and
all the other guys I mentioned, they were on pay
per view, and then he had, you know, a couple
of fights that were on regular to zone when he
first got there. But the zone is only in a
few hundred thousand sub you know, subscribers in the United
States anyway, and you mentioned Netflix three hundred million or
so worldwide subscribers, about ninety million here in the United
States alone. So from that standpoint, it's massive because everybody
can see it for free if they have a subscription,
which you know most people do. And they're doing the
fight not at one of the traditional arenas like the
T Mobile Arena or the MGM Grand or Thomas and
Knack Center where they've had so many fights here in
this city. They're doing it at the Allegian Stadium, which
is a relatively new stadium, and so they're expecting a
crowd of about sixty sixty five thousand people. And if
it draws that kind of crowd, and it can get
past sixty three thousand, let's say, which is the record
that stood for many years of an indoor fight attendance
for Ali's spanks number two that was in the New
Orleans super Dome in nineteen seventy eight. That was the
long established record. Canelo's fight with Billy Joe Saunders did
seventy two thousand and change and broke that. But this
fight has a really likely opportunity to become to become
the number two in terms of an indoor American boxing event.
So there's a lot of stuff there. It's the biggest
indoor fight ever in Nevada history obviously already. So you know,
Canello has said a thousand times DJ that one of
the things he likes about what he's done in his
career is making history, and those little bits are just
other things to add on top of all the other
things he has done.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that, again, that's the Raiders Stadium. It's at
the south end of the strip. I'm assuming they've not
let the media or anybody else get in to see
the setup as of yet on Thursday, right, you've not
been there. I don't know that they're letting anybody in
there to see the setup. Maybe at least until tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's nobody's going to be at the
staium and tell.
Speaker 1: The fight day there you go until fight day.
Speaker 2: But Canelo, to your point, has been in this environment
in the Cowboys Stadium before, the Astros Baseball Stadium in Houston,
at Minute Made Park, Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
Speaker 1: He's been in the.
Speaker 2: Big bullfighting ring before. He was in the Guadalajara Stadium
when he fought John Ryder. He's been in those atmospheres before.
So maybe that's a little bit of an advantage, maybe.
Speaker 3: Because he's fought at AT and T Stadium and you know
a few time as a matter of fact, right, I mean,
he's got the more experience in terms of that. But
Crawford is not a guy that's going to be unnerved
by anything. Crawford's got you know, uh ice in his veins.
He's not gonna worry about that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, again, thank you for finding us. As
we go over this, we're gonna go over the undercard.
We also have other action this weekend as part of
this live preview here on YouTube this evening. I always
love doing this with you. Give us an idea here
of as Wednesday has become Thursday, has there begun to
be some buzz or is it still too early yet?
Speaker 1: We got to get to and Friday night.
Speaker 3: What you said, there's definitely buzz, There's no doubt about it.
I Mean, one thing I find interesting about this is,
you know, I've covered, you know, a ton of fights
in Las Vegas, and I've covered fights in various places,
and I've been at many hotels that have served as
the host, but primarily it's been the MGM Grand and
then at some point, you know a lot of fights
at places like Mandalay Day. This fight. The host hotel
is the Font and Blue, which is all the way
down downtown, the opposite end of the strip from where
Mandeliday is and from where the MGM Grand is. But again,
they're doing a great job at you walk into this hotel,
you know there's a big event that they're hosting because
there's they got the you know, similar to like the MGM.
They got the big ring right there in the lobby
with the signage. They have the you know, I was
walking through the casino last night and all the blackjack
tables have the table felts are of the fight. They've
got some pop up shops where they're selling merchandise, you know,
T shirts and baseball hats and some of the things
like ring magazine related gear. But with the fight on it,
you know, because obviously Turkey owns the ring and he's
on site doing things, and they're involved heavily with this
whole event, and you know, you just know there's a
big event. I mean, and that's it's nice to see
and this is bigger than your average big event.
Speaker 1: Let's say understood on that.
Speaker 2: All right, So you and I, by the way, we
are reviving for this week the bet US Boxing Show.
We're going to handicap this fight live at one eastern
ten Pacific on the bet Us platforms different from our platform.
You don't have to go on the record right now,
but size up what intrigues you. Size this up here
in terms of the matchup. We know obviously Crawford moving
way up in wait Traditionally one hundred and forty seven
pound fighter has fought one fight at one point fifty four.
Now he's moving up two more weight classes. Size up
the matchup, Give me a thought or two place.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've seen guys go up and wait before.
Some have been successful, Roy Jones as an example, Bernard
Hopkins for example. You know we've seen it plenty of
times for the years. Nanny pack is a great example
of Rose and Rose and Rose and Rose and other guys.
When they do it, they fall flat and they can't
get over that hump. And there's plenty of historical examples
of that. You know, we talk about like Ray Robinson,
I mean, the greatest all time town for pound fighter.
You know, he was the greatest at welterweight middleweight, and
when he went to light heavyweight, it didn't work out
so well for him. So there are people who wonder
is he able to handle that size jump, because yes,
he's going up two weight classes because his last fight
was at one hundred and fifty four pounds. But reality
is he's a welterweight because he fought in the welterweight
division for several years, became the undisputed champion, and took
a year off and came back and had one fight
at one fifty four and won a belt where he
didn't look particularly that good even though he won the fight,
And that was going up two more weight divisions to
take on Canelo, who's been very comfortable and been in
the super middleweight division for many years at this point,
has has even fought as high as one seventy five
and won a world title and that fight and you
know lost obviously the Bivol, but still fought, you know,
such an elite fighter in him and and you know
lost the decision. So people question can he handle the weight?
I think, based on the way he looks and just
his ring intelligence, that yeah, he can the question Kenny
do enough to actually win the fight. And that's the
thing now, I think it's fair to say when you
think about will Crawford win, that part of the equation
is how much do you think Canelo has faded because
he looks so terrible in the Skull fight? And then
you have to determine that he look terrible in the
Skull fight because of the things we talked about, because
of the atmosphere, because of the opponent being such a stinker,
because of just him wanting to get to win and
get out of there so he get the Crawford fight
or is he watched. I don't know the answer. I mean,
we're going to find out, and I think we're gonna
know real early in that fight, what the deal is,
and so all those factors for me anyway, make it
where absolutely Terrence Crawford can win that fight. Remember another
thing also, now, I know Terrence Crawford hasn't fought sixty
eight pounders in real fights, but certainly through the course
of his career he's shown a good chin. Never been
down officially one time against Kabalawskis that wasn't officially ruled,
which wasn't knockdown. But even if that's the case, that's
one time in forty plus fights in two hundred and
forty something rounds. If you take a look at Canelo
and Crawford together, they have more than one hundred professional fights.
They have almost eight hundred professional rounds between them. Never
an official knockdown for either guy getting dropped. That's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1: It is remarkable.
Speaker 2: The one thing that I will say too is Crawford
is what thirty six pushing thirty seven, and he's basically
had three fights in the last three and a half
almost four years. He has not been active. He had
one fight obviously a year ago at one hundred and
fifty four pounds and didn't look great in it. I
think there's every bit the question mark of how washed
is he? He was great the night against Errol Spence,
but Dan, that was twenty five months ago, you and
I were there, I don't know how sharp he's gonna be,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: If this is a contest about who's more washed, if
you believe they're washed, it's definitely Canelo that's more washed
than Crawford.
Speaker 2: In a contest with you and me, who's more washed?
I would like to think I'm a pretty clean guy,
But you're also big on the showerhead pressure.
Speaker 1: On the hotel water flow there on that I don't
know who's.
Speaker 3: Watching that's he did that, All the things that we've
just been talking about, like whether they're not as good
as they were, can he handle the weight? How good
is Canelo? What do we think about what happened in
the last fight for both of these guys, The magnitude
of the history that can be made, especially if Terrence
Crawford is the winner. There's so many things that make
it an intriguing fight that you gotta watch. And again,
I'm going to reiterate this for like the thousand times
since the fight was made. It's not going to cost
ninety dollars. I mean, there's no way around that. It's
it's a wonderful thing. But to me, what intrigues me,
and you know, you know me as a historian type,
the types of things that Crawford can add to his
legacy with a victory. And we spoke about it a
little bit in the interview that I did with him
that's on the on the on the YouTube page, and
what we've played on the podcast is very extraordinary. I mean,
let's just think about that. If Canelo wins, it's a
great win over a pound for pound, superstar caliber, Hall
of Fame, four division champion, you know, but I don't
wouldn't consider it his biggest win. It's a great win,
but it's not bigger than I don't think then even
if he when he you know, even if it was
questionable the triple G win or you know, some of
the other great victories he had against Arislondi Lara or
Miguel Coto or or any of you know, any of
the guys he's beaten through the years, becoming undisputed against Plant.
But for Crawford, he can become a five division world champion,
which is still hard to do. Very rare. Only a
handful of guys have done it. He can become a
three division undisputed champion, which has never happened in the
multi belt era. We're not talking four belt era like
we often do. We're talking two, three, and four. The
last time there was a fighter who was acknowledges undisputed
when there was only one title, you have to go
all the way in three weight classes. You have to
go all the way back to nineteen thirty eight, almost
one hundred fucking years ago, and that was Henry Armstrong,
who in nineteen thirty eight simultaneously held the featherweight, lightweight
and welterweight title. So that's the kind of.
Speaker 4: Company neighborhood didn't lasts, right, And on top of that,
and this is one of the things that we did
speak about on the interview, and he was very you know,
excited about the prospect with the victory that he would
become only the third fighter ever to be a four
division lineal champion, five division champion and yes, but four
division lineal, meaning he's the guy who beat the guy who.
Speaker 3: Beat the guy, et cetera. The only other two guys
are Manny pack Alwin Floyd Miyler. So I just named
you like four different things that are massive things that
go on his resume, on his legacy, on his Hall
of Fame credential list. If he is the winner, now
it's a big if because obviously he's the underdog and it's.
Speaker 1: A huge amount of work. It's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he does it, it's huge.
Speaker 2: I just look, it's basically a fifty to fifty fight
right now on the betting odds. I mean, Canelo is
like a minus one fifty and literally Crawford's like a
plus one sixty. So that's fascinating to me when Canelo
is the bigger guy, and usually the bigger guy should
be more favored. And there's a real outstanding question on
whether Crawford's punch will have the same effect at one
hundred and sixty eight pounds, and he can say all
day long that it will, but he doesn't know till
he gets in there.
Speaker 3: I've never looked at this fight where whatever a power
he has or doesn't have is going to be the
difference in the fight. This is not about Tarro. Listen,
anything can happen. You know that it's boxing. But to me, anyway,
the chances of Crawford getting a knockout or like Slim
and Nunn and Nuns on the way out of town.
But can he out box Canelo Aavarez? Does he have
the speed advantage? Does he have at least as good
of an intelligence, maybe more so? I mean, do he
have experience the way you know they all have experience,
They've been in the ring with big fights before. Crawford's
gonna have to box. He's not going I don't think
he's gonna go in there looking to knock the guy out.
You're talking about it's never been down.
Speaker 1: That I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2: But he's got to be able to stop him in
his tracks, get his attention. Do those kinds not necessarily
knock him down? And we don't know how that translates.
So as much as we want to talk about what
he accomplished at one seven that ain't helping him at
one sixty eight, will find out what helps him at
one sixty eight or what has helped him in his
training and leading.
Speaker 1: Up to it.
Speaker 2: Again, we're doing this live here on the YouTube page.
Thank you for joining us. A lot of live audience
has joined us. Let me look at the comments for
just a second. Here and then we're gonna get to
the undercard and then move on. We got a couple
of other world title fights as well in Ireland for
the IBF Welterweight Championship, the Crocker A Donovan rematch, and
then the Monster. Oh, by the way, is an action
on Sunday. I need my up update from Rayfield. Can
we see the fight in the United States? That's a
that's a tease. Don't tell them yet. That's a tease
that we can see the Monster fight.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: It happened during the podcast.
Speaker 1: It happened while we're doing the live show.
Speaker 3: I got one of my text messages popped up while
we're doing the show.
Speaker 1: Let's see uh.
Speaker 2: Viewer questions Aaron Dan, do you agree with Max Kellerman
saying the fight will get more views than Mayweather Pacquiao
since it's on Netflix. Put it in perspective with the
Maye they're packing out pay per view buys.
Speaker 3: I think, well, here's the thing. Mayweather in many packet
was the all time record in terms of number of
pay per view. When I say that it's in the
United States, Okay, we're doing apples to apples. It did
four point six million pay per view buys in America.
It destroyed the previous record before that was like two
point two million or something like that, like a two
point four million I think was Mayweather against Oscar. It
was either Floyd against Canelo. But it destroyed the record.
It blew the record away. Like in their wildest dreams,
the television executives and the boxers, nobody involved never would
have thought that it was going to do that many buys,
and so they always do as a formula that if
the four point six million people bought the pay per view,
it's not four point six million people buying it and
they're watching it by themselves. There's us like they do
like it's four people per home or whatever the numbers,
if you do the math like that, And then of
course there's obviously lots of people are watching out of home.
They're at closed circuit locations, are at bars and restaurants
that have bought the event for a closed circuit. You know,
it gets up there. But because the fight's on Netflix
and it's in thirty ninety million American homes, yeah, probably,
I do kind of agree with Max that from the
standpoint of the people that will watch it Live. It
might have a chance to do better than pay Mayweather
packet because Mayweather Pacat was the first time they ever
charged one hundred dollars for a pay per view. It
still did four point six million. But this one doesn't
cost but a monthly subscription.
Speaker 2: Then why didn't you tell me that they made off
the pay per view, off the four million plus pay
per view buys? Didn't they make over a couple hundred million?
Speaker 1: Whatever? The math was?
Speaker 3: The total the total gross for that fight in all
revenue stream is pay per view, the gate, the merchandise,
the foreign sales, you know, you name it, the sponsors
that they had. It total about six hundred and fifty
million dollars.
Speaker 2: I mean, good good luck with what the Netflix will doing.
You gotta love the savages, all right. The savages are
all over the place.
Speaker 1: Nico our man.
Speaker 2: Nico says, just got to Vegas today playing in a
poker tournament while listening multi tasking, Nico, thank you good luck,
and let us know if you win with like aces high?
Speaker 1: Is that a poker term? I made that up?
Speaker 2: Maybe he just won with that kind of a poker hand.
Martin says, last four fights on Netflix, where can we
see the rest of the Prelams love the live broadcast.
All right, explain again to the audience. We're going to
talk about the undercard coming up and explain the broadcast.
Speaker 3: So the top four fights on the card, which are
obviously a Canelo versus Crawford, Callum Wallash versus Fernando Vargas
Junior Christian and Billy versus Lester Martinez, and the prospect
from Saudi Arabia Mohammed Alcal against Travis Kent Crawford no
relation to Terrence Crawford. Those fights are the main Netflix broadcast.
The remainder of the card, which includes fighters like Sorry
Boachug against Brandon Adams and as you know, the young
Mexican Olympian that's with Eddie renosom or Verde, and you
know other fights on the show. Those are going to
be on I believe it's on the UFC YouTube channel
and other social channels, maybe the ring channel Netflix. You'll
be able to find that easily on the social media channels,
particularly on YouTube, and those are free for everybody to watch.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see a lot of people still weighing in here.
Julio wants to know how is the vibe for this
fight compared to other super fights. You kind of answered
that already, but for the live audience joining us another
quick recap.
Speaker 3: It's good, but I'd be less than honest if I
said it even came close to like the Wednesday of
like Mayweather Canelo, or the Wednesday of Mayweather against Oscar
those were ridiculous, or like when Ricky Hatton fought Floyd
and half of England was in the lobby of the NGN.
I mean, it's not it's in no way is it
a negative about Canelo and Crawford. But I'm just being real.
I was at those fights, and I was at those
fight weeks, and they were extraordinary compared to what we
see for not only this fight, for a lot of
recent fights where it's just not that same vibe. There's
not like a there's not a crazy group of passionate
fans that have traveled. I'm Surelle will have lots of
Mexicans from both coming from Mexico as well as Mexican
Americans who will come into town for the fight. I
haven't seen them yet, all right, but it's this hotel's
popping though.
Speaker 2: There you go, and it's not Friday night it's not Faddy,
it's not Fridday night yet moon Man wants to know, Yo, Dan,
what's the possibility that Bud gets a KO?
Speaker 1: Where would you gauge?
Speaker 2: You just said a couple of minutes ago, you think
highly unlikely? Is that a way to phrase it?
Speaker 3: I would say less than ten percent chance. It's just
I mean, yay, look, anything can happen, But as I've
used the phrase before, the preponderance of the evidence would
say that's virtually not happening that it would. Now, could
Canelo get an injury or suffer a cut that may
be cause it? What would go down officially as a TKO? Yeah,
of course. But and you're talking about like where he's
teeing off on him and the referee jumps in and
stops the fight right where he puts him on his
back for ten seconds. I just don't think that's likely.
I mean, the guy has not had a moment in
fight other than if you go back to when he
fought Jose Miguel Coto on an undercard at the MGM
fifteen years ago, whatever it was, in the first round,
he was badly hurt. I've never seen him visibly really
hurt since then so no, he's and Crawford is not.
I don't think he's training for a knockout. He's too
smart for that. You think that him and his team,
Brian mcintyren and all the guys. They look at Canelo's record,
they see the guys got close to seventy pro fights
and never forgett about getting stopped. Guy's ever been down,
real quick, He's never been He's never really been close
to being down, even.
Speaker 1: Though he had not significantly hurt.
Speaker 3: Got a great he didn't go down.
Speaker 1: Got a great chin adam real quick.
Speaker 2: I understand that Kanelo has a great chan, but Crawford
is a legit is a legitimate KO artist, seventy five
percent KO ratio, having KO ten of his last eleven opponents.
Speaker 3: I again, he KO to eleven guys in a row
in the welterweight and junior welter with the vision.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 3: And then the first time he went to one hundred
and fifty four he went to this it was.
Speaker 1: Not on a knockout, That's correct.
Speaker 3: That's what I was.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going with that. And we have
talked about that.
Speaker 2: Uh and one more while we go through the comments
our buddy, Alaska Bow is watching, and Alaska Bow wants
to know if Crawford and in a way are successful
this weekend, where would you rank them pound for pound?
I wonder does he mean currently? You got to put
them all time as well? But currently who would you
put ahead if they both have won?
Speaker 3: I would never even say that ahead of time because
to me, it depends on how the fight goes. You know,
if Crawford were to get like a controversial decision, but
in a way goes in there and destroys Zach Mndellia, right,
and you're gonna prop me rank Acmdelia, I mean, uh,
in a way ahead of him. If if if Bud
goes in there and boxes circles around Canelo, Oliverson looks
absolutely fantastic and becomes young disputed champion, you know, moving
up a couple of weight classes, and you have in
a way getting knocked on his ass again like he
did against Cardenas, then you're probably gonna go with Crawford,
so he can't stay till the fight's over all.
Speaker 2: Right, fair enough, real quick? A little more on the undercard,
Callum Walsh. Antonio Vargas helped me. Fernando Vargas My Bad
is the co feature Christian Mobili also on the Netflix card.
Speaker 1: Just touch on the undercard again real.
Speaker 3: Quick, yeah, Well. Walsh and Fernando Vargus are two undefeated
up and coming fighters. Fernando Vargus Junior, of course, is
the son of Fernando Vargas, the former junior middleweight world
champion and Olympian who was in a lot of great fights.
I had the privilege to cover some of them. His
younger brother, Emiliano was the red hot junior Walterway prospect
that's with top rank. They have a brother in the
middle who was also an up and coming fighter named Amato.
But this is Fernando Vargus Junior's biggest test. He's taken
on kalum As, who was an undefeated Irish fighter who
based in southern California, now trains with Freddie Roach. He's
gotten a lot of attention for his fights on UFC
Fight Pass. Tom Loeffler, his promoter, is very close to
Dana White. Dana White has given them basically a series
of three sixty Promotions cards that are on UFC Fight Pass,
and Callum has been fighting on there for the last
several fights and you know, they're both good prospects. I
think Walsh is probably a little bit of a better
prospect than my mind. But at least it's they're not
superstar fights. I mean, it's a big spot to be
in the co feature obviously of a fight like this,
but at least it looks like on paper a competitive
fight between two guys who are on the upswing, who
are in their twenties, who still have you know, they're
trying to still make their bones, so to speak.
Speaker 2: We should point this out also when those two get
to the ring, Walsh and Vargas, most of the crowd.
I'm just saying this, most of the crowd will be
filing in or in their seats, and those two have
never fought in front of forty to fifty sixty thousand
whatever the crowd is filling in to be.
Speaker 3: In front of probably ten thousands exactly, So this is.
Speaker 2: Going to be a moment for them because we can't
we can't speak to two fights earlier. How full it's
going to be an allegiate stadium, But you would think
during the fight before.
Speaker 3: The main event, not even just about the amount of
people that are there, it's just when you walk to
the ring. And I've covered plenty of stadium fights. I've
covered fights that you know, Houston Mini made the Yankee Stadium,
eighteen Stadium, the soccer stadium in Cardiff, I mean in
in Carson, California, I covered it. You know, fights at
Wembley Stadium. You know, it's not even about the crowd.
Your ring walk is like three times as long. Yeah,
walk to a ring and like a small ballroom or
on a casino. You know you walk to the ring.
You walked to a ring at Wembley Stadium. You know
you can stop and take a piss along the way.
That's how long it.
Speaker 2: Cos there's an image. It's not likely to happen though,
anything else on the undercard. Mabilly to me, this is
the future opponent for Canelo possibly. What about Mobilly's fight.
Speaker 3: And well, the winner, the winner of Mabilly versus Martinez
is going to be his mandatory in the WBC. Uh,
it's a Mobility's got the interim title. Uh this to me,
I mean Lester Martinez is not a well known fighter,
but he's looked good on his probox fights and Mobility
we've seen on his ESPN plus cards that uh that
his promoter's top rank and I the Tiger have done
over the last couple of years. They're both exciting fighters.
This should be a good fight. This to me, I mean,
I know they put the calum Washed Fernando Vargas fight
in the co feature spot because of their their efforts
to build up callum Wash. But for my money, the
fight of the night other than the main event is
this mobility fight against lest That should be an action
pack fight in my mind, and made the best man
win that one. This is going to be a punch
out in my mind.
Speaker 2: Love it all right, let's do this because we're savvy again,
we're serving two masters here. We're live on YouTube tonight.
You can see the Canelo video interview with Dan that
he did on Wednesday on this YouTube channel for our
podcast audience that obviously is only hearing us on the
normal podcast released Thursday night into Friday. We're now going
to play Dan's interview with Canelo, So live audience watching
us stand by for a second. You're not going to
see it or hear it. But podcast audience, here's Dan
one on one with Canelo prior to the Crawford fight
coming up on Saturday night.
Speaker 3: It's my pleasure to be joined today by the one
and only undisputed super MINOWA champ with the world, Canelo Alvarez.
We know why we're here, Canello, to talk about your
mega fight takes place Saturday on Netflix at the Allegiance
Stadium against Terrence Crawford. You're defending your title. And you
know what, this was a fight that when we talked
about in a while back before you had your fight
in May, when it being discussed, this was not a
fight that you were really that interested in. I'm wondering
what changed.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know when you guys asking about that fight I
never had in my mind before.
Speaker 3: I was a surprise for me.
Speaker 5: So that's why I say why I'm gonna you try,
you guys to fight me with terror scaffle, Right, But
if you see everything, you can see how big is
this fight. No, it's one of the biggest in the
boxing history. So that's why I accepted. Terre Scraffer is
one of the best fum for POEM out there. So
two of the best for PEM fighters fighting each other
is a big.
Speaker 3: Fight, absolutely, And I was going to ask you about
that because I saw the the interviews that you did
during your Grand Arrivals on Tuesday, and you said that
you thought this was the biggest fight of your career.
And it's a big one, I'll give you that, But
you've had so many, and I wonder why is it
that you think this is bigger than Triple G one
and two, Miguel Colo, Floyd Mayweather, Kayla Plant, Covid lev
you know you name it, Billy Joe Sauners with the
record crowd. Why is this one bigger than all of those?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: You see, everything is involved Netflix Threat season. Everything around
the fight is big. You can see how big. You
can see the energy, you can see different everything And
I've been there before and I know how big is
this fight. So that's why I call this fight one
of my biggest fights in my career.
Speaker 3: I thought you said it was the biggest.
Speaker 5: And it's one of the biggest. Okay, fair Maybe that's
gonna be the more watches, right, the most watch it
in in in time so on other things, maybe it's
gonna be the biggest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, First of all, congratulations, I know you and
your wife had a lovely baby girl. Last month. Saw
your your postings on your social media, So congratulations. It
is a wonderful thing. But I wonder you know how
much of a distraction was that to break camp and
and be with your family when when your baby came
and and has that sort of been been at all
a disruption to your training for this fight?
Speaker 5: Nothing was was a motivation for me. It was a
big motivation for me. And you know what, then, the
universe is great because it happened in the weekend. So
I finished my my, my, my workout, and my wife
called me, hey, it's coming. So I fly there for
two days and some day I was back to training camp.
Speaker 3: So you didn't really even miss any of your camp.
I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't miss any training and what's perfect and was
very motivation, a lot of motivation for me. I got
the discipline you know always, but discipline version with with
with that motivation is amazing.
Speaker 3: So I want to ask you just a little bit
about your fighting me, because you've seem very motivated and
very excited for this fight with Crawford. That one. Obviously
you won the fight. I thought you won basically every round,
but it certainly was not a crowd pleaser. A lot
of people were disappointed with the way Williams call fought
against you boring fight. But you also didn't really seem
to have the ability to cut the ring off, to
land a lot of punches, to do any kind of
hurt on him. And you just sort of tell me,
uh was it? What was your what was your reasons
for that sort of situation and why it wasn't as
good of a fight as Canel Alvarez fights usually are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know at that point with that situation, you
need to win the fight. It's all matters. Win the fight,
because a fight a fighter like him running and when
you try to to cot and and and try to
get in, he put the head in front of him.
So a lot of a lot of bees there know
to have a head in my in my face and
blows that guy. Don't don't really.
Speaker 3: Want to fight that night, understood, I want to just.
Speaker 5: And thus and those situations you need to be more
patient because if you go and try and everything, he
started touching you and winning the rounds. You know what
I mean? At that point, you need to find a
way how to win, because a win is a win.
Speaker 3: You know you're okay with one more question? Yeah, I know, Uh,
you know you're I look at this kind of like
you're in maybe a little bit of a no win situation.
I know, you always come prepare for your fights and
you want to win and you know, put the pot
on a great fight for the fans and all that business.
But here you are fighting a guy like you're coming
off from welterweight essentially. So if you if you win
the fight, a lot of folks will say, well, you know,
it's uh, you know, we love Canelo, buddy beat a welterweight.
If you lose the fight, you're like, oh my god,
Canelo lost to a welterweight. So it's sort of you're
damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
So do you, uh, do you look at it like
a no win situation? Do you care what those critics
might say at Dina the day done?
Speaker 5: Is their opinions. Its opinion, just opinions. For me and
my Mimi is opinions.
Speaker 3: I know what I need to do.
Speaker 5: I know I need to win the fight. I know
how big is for me, How I know what means
for me and for my team and for everybody. And
the people talk, they always talk, no matter what, you know,
what what does mean for you, Oh means a lot.
This fight two of the best fighters out there fighting,
and the stage, the magnitude of the fight, Mexico VERSUS America,
you know it is. It's big for me, means a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's big for everybody, big for the fans,
big for boxing, big for Netflix, big for Las Vegas.
Thank you very much. You know, I wish you the
best of luck Saturday. I look forward to being at
the fight watching you do your thing.
Speaker 5: Thank you that take care.
Speaker 2: Put a bow on it one more time. We're excited.
We're now within forty eight hours of the main event.
We're ready to move on to the other fights worldwide,
and we're ready to move on to the news.
Speaker 1: But Canello Crawford approaching Dan Rayhaield.
Speaker 3: Listen, it's a huge fight, and in boxing, you're lucky
to get one of these a year, one of these
every couple of years. And I think it's fair to
say that this is I'm not as hype like the
promoters aren't say it's the biggest fight of the century,
that type of stuff, And I get you know, they're
trying to build it up. But it is a big
fight because it's not often where you have two automatic
Hall of famers who both won world titles and four
way classes who even if they haven't been at their
absolute best and their most recent fights are still on
the pound for pound list. And you know, only two
fights ago, Terence Crawford looked as spectacular as you can
look when he destroyed Erol Spence. And even though Canelo
maybe didn't look great against William Skull, guys still winning
his fights. Handle It's not like anybody thought it was
controversy against Berlanga or Mongia, you know, or even Skull,
et cetera. So you know, these are all time greats
and they're fighting in a huge stage on a big platform,
and boxing fans should be happy to see it. That's
the way I look at it, and I'm excited to
be I don't go to as many fights as I
once did, and that's my choice, but I come for
these types of fights.
Speaker 1: Sure, And here we go with this one in Vegas.
Speaker 2: All right, now, another continent away earlier in the day
in Ireland, let's talk Lewis Crocker Patty Donovan for the
IBF welterweight title. This is primetime in Ireland, Saturday afternoon,
in the United States early Saturday afternoon in Vegas in
the West, where Dan is again. This was a controversial
first fight in March Dan take us through that, a
DQ for Donovan, a win for Crocker, So take us
through this is they now fight for the full IBF
title that Terrence Crawford used to have for the Saturday
Ireland main event.
Speaker 3: It was Terrence had it when he became on disputed,
but after that it became Bouttennis's title, right. So what
happened was when Crocker and Donovan fought. They're both Irish,
one is from Northern Ireland, one is from Ireland, but
they're both Irish. Obviously they have those fan bases. So
they fought on March first, and at that time it
was a totally eliminator to become the Boots mandatory of
the IBF title. Obviously, as we know, Boots ended up
fighting Stanionis became the unified champion and eventually vacated the title.
But when the so he was still champion when the
March first fight happened. When that fight happened, Patty Donovan,
who has been considered for a number of years, is
a really good prospect he had originally done with top rank.
They weren't doing shows in Ireland. He got released. He
was now going to fight overseas, you know, in his
home area, and so he was the guy that was
sort of looked at as a guy that was gonna
be a future champion. But Crocker, i know, had a
good record and was undefeated, and you know, was also
coming along. So in that first fight, Patty Donovan was
whitewashing him. He was winning every round, he was totally dominating.
He was way ahead on the two score cards, a
little closer on the third score card. And then in
the eighth round, like as you mentioned, he knocked him down.
He heard him badly, and when the fight resumed, right
at the end of the round, he landed a monstrous
punch or right hook, and it knocked him out. But
the last punch was like a split second after the bell.
Now Crocker didn't hear it, Donovan didn't hear it. It's
very obvious that Donovan did not throw the punch on
purpose after the bell and try to commit a foul.
The referee did not hear it. The referee was reprimanded
by the IBF when they went through the appeal process
for not being in the right position. The referee, when
they know the round is coming to an end, supposed
to move closer to the two fighters so they can
be in position to break them when the bell rings,
and that referee, Marcus McDonald just was nowhere to be seen.
He was off like sunbathing in the other corner or whatever. Anyway,
in the end, because of that happening, he ended up
disqualifying Paddy Donovan. They appealed to the IBF seeking an
immediate rematch. They were granted that immediate rematch. Now while
this is happening, Bhutan has vacates the title, so now
instead of having the rematch be just another eliminator. Obviously
they were the two highest rated guys and we're going
to fight to fight for the title. So now the
two of them with the title vacant, we'll fight for
the vacant title. So that's elevated stakes in a fight
where you know, Crocker kind of got lucky, lean honest,
because the knockout pun was not with malice, it was us.
I think that he couldn't have held up anyway. I
think it was in the context of the bell ringing
and it was bang bang, but they did call the
DQ and you know, in the end at least the
result was that they were able to order the rematch.
And for bonus sake, it's for the title and it
is I guess I can't find another example to discount
what the promoters are saying, I believe and what they're
saying that this is the first time ever in the
history of boxing that two irishmen will fight for a
world title, a major world title.
Speaker 1: I believe that is correct.
Speaker 2: I was checking with our buddy David Payne, a great historian,
the boxing writer over in the UK, and he said,
there's not really another reference point of two Irish fighters
in a massive world title opportunity like this. They certainly
have had Ireland against England, Ireland against the United States
through another country, et cetera.
Speaker 3: So again that is on the il fighters that have
won titles.
Speaker 2: Of course, that is on the Zone on Saturday afternoon,
the Matchroom de Zone show from Belfast earlier in the afternoon,
so that kind of whets the appetite for what we're
doing on Saturday night with Canelo Crawford, and then that
gives way to Sunday morning in the United States Sunday
night in Japan, and that Naoya in a way defending
his undisputed junior featherweight four world titles against Murra John
or mj Akmadaliev. Dan give me a little more in
the preview mode about this one, because in a way
is certainly one of the greats in the sport right now.
But Akmadaliev could could give him a test, could he not?
Speaker 3: I think so, especially given that we've seen in a
way look like he does have you know, human blood
running through his veins in recent fights where he got
knocked down by Cardenas, found himself on the deck against
Luis Neary, came back in one, of course. But Akmadaliav
has been a former champion, a unified champion at that
he is now the mandatory tremendous amateur career. He's the
by far, in my opinion anyway, the best one hundred
and twenty two pounds that hasn't been in the ring
within a way yet. He Morgan deserves this opportunity. And
it's like me though, this is like the forgotten fight
the week because this is a I mean, it's not
a mega fight for the this part of the world.
And maybe in Japan, it's obviously a lot bigger, but
it's gotten zero attention, partly because of the fact that
you have Canello Crawford taking place in the previous evening.
Mattroom has done a good job, at least to the
United States media and fan base, marketing and promoting the
Crocker and Donovan fight and the other fights on you know,
early early in the morning both West Coast and you know,
East Coast, super early for the West Coast are a
little like six o'clock or whatever it'll be on the
East Coast. But the problem is Top Rank, which is
the co promoter for anyway, has done absolutely dick to
promote this fight. Nothing uh, and they didn't have a
broadcaster for the fight. They have the worldwide rights for
the fight other than in Japan.
Speaker 2: But however, however, we have breaking news on the live show.
Can we see this, Dan Rayfield.
Speaker 3: It's pathetic, but yes, we can see it. They announced
while we were doing the beginning of the show that
this fight will be live on the Top Rank Facebook page. Okay,
I don't even know why they're not even putting on
their YouTube channel. That's a lot better than a Facebook page.
Speaker 2: In my mind, maybe they have a YouTube restriction because
of what I'm just speculating, whatever's going on in Japan.
Speaker 3: They can't put it on Brocket the whole world they have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, all right, So on the Top
Rank Boxing Facebook page.
Speaker 1: You can see this fighting streaming listen.
Speaker 3: That's al fucking travesty, and that shows you where Top
Rank is right now in their in their business that
they can't get it on the best fighter in the
world not named Terrence Crawford or Alexander Usik, no better
than Canelo. Canello is not number three, and anybody's pounds
for poundless anymore. It's Usik, it's Crawford, and it's in
a way in whatever order you choose. But the point
I'm making is that for that fighter of that magnitude
a fight against such a top notch opponent, he's not
fighting some drec opponent, and they don't have any place
to put the fucking fight anywhere in the United States.
And when they finally do, it's a fucking Facebook page
and they don't even announce the ship until Thursday of
fight week. Now, I was told a few days ago
it was probably gonna be ESPN plus on like a
one off basis. Obviously that did not take place. That's
a fucking crime. Yeah, you have to watch this fight
on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Well, good for Mark Zuckerberg. There'll be some audience. There
will be some audience, either live or on demand later
in the morning.
Speaker 3: I'm much annoyed with everything about this fucking fight. One
realistic not the fight, but.
Speaker 2: But what kind of realistic chance do you give akhmadaliav
Here he's going into the Lions Dan figuratively in Japan.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I give him a chance? But I mean I still
think in a way, as he may not be at
his absolute apex anymore, I think that's past. He's on
the slow decline like like that just happens naturally. And
he's been around a long time. He's moved up several
weight classes. But I think he's still a top notch
A plus a week. And although Acmadelli it has my respect.
He's a tremendous fighter himself. To me anyway, you know,
in a way gets the job done. But let me
tell you something, don't don't sleep on Acmadad. He can
crack to a degree. Uh, and you know he has
experienced he may not have a ton of professional fights.
You look at the record, I forget what it is.
I want to say he's like thirteen in one or
something like that. That's very misleading. He had a ton
of amateur experience and he's fought good fighters as a
professional and he takes it really seriously. He comes in shape. Yeah,
he absolutely gives some problems to Tony in a way.
There's no question about it.
Speaker 2: All Right, latest fight news before we're going here, let's
spend a few moments on that. Some more people are commenting.
We'll try to get to a couple more comments on
the live YouTube show as we do this. But give
me some fight news that includes Adam Azeem has re
signed with a boxer. Correct that that was a speculation
he might go somewhere else, the junior welterway, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was announced on Thursday. I mean Adam Azeem
has been for the last couple of years one of
the most promising British fighters, exciting, has a big time
fan based. It been growing undefeated that had gotten to
the point where he won the European title. He's gotten
his best two wins in his last two fights against
you know, his last fight. He had a victory against
a former world title holder, Sergei Lipinitz. You know, he's
done what he's supposed to do. But there was a
lot of speculation that with the contract coming up, and
with Boxer no longer being with Sky Sports, which is
what his fights were always televised on, that they thought
he might leave. Now, Boxer announced just a couple of
weeks ago that they had done a deal with BBC.
But most people look at that deal and say, Okay,
it's great that you can have some guys on on
the terrestrial television instead of like a cable channel the
way Sky Sports is, but that the money that they're
getting for those fights is not nearly as much as
what they were getting from Sky and that as he
might look at other places like a match room like
a Queensberry or wherever that do fights in the UK
as well. But in the end, Adam Azem, who was
twenty three years old, has been with boxer since he
was one to zero. And you know, some guys they
like the comfort of where they are. I'm sure they
have a good deal in place for him, or you know,
hopefully his team did a good deal for him, and
you know, he'll get to stay there and hopefully they
can continue to bring him along and get him to
the point where he can fight big time names.
Speaker 1: And he's he's got talent, he's on the rise. Interesting.
Speaker 2: While we continue to roll call through the fight news,
Oscar Valdez won last weekend in Mexico, former two division
world champ in a non title fight. But he's got
an injury now, updats real quick.
Speaker 3: Well, he got the win against Ricky Medina. That was
the Nogallas, Mexico homecoming fight. He was coming off the
lost in Navarete by knockout, and it was sort of like,
let's see what Oscar Valdez has left in the homecoming now.
He said in the post fight interview after he got
the victory in a ten rounder, he won a clear decision,
but he didn't look very good that he said he
had hurt his left shoulder in the first round of
the fight. As it turns out, they made an announcement
a couple of days ago that he actually had suffered
a shoulder injury about two weeks before the fight. But
he didn't want to pull out. He didn't want to
disappoint the hometown fans. He felt they could still get
through it, and obviously he did and he won, even
if he didn't look so great. But they also announced
that he had suffered like a of ruptures to portions
of his uh his shoulder, and he's gonna ouch and
be out for a while. And they didn't say if
he's gonna have to have surgery, but they did an
MRI and he's got some issues there. So they're gonna
see what the next thing is in terms of his
medical how they're gonna work on that, if it's going
to be rehab, if it's going to be a surgery.
But he's certainly gonna be out for a bit. And uh,
you know, I think at this point because of that injury,
he's had other injuries before. You know, I'm not one
to tell him he's your retire. He did get to win. Uh,
it wasn't you know, particularly difficult overall. In my mind,
what a great way if he were to walk away though.
The guy won two world titles. He fought a lot
of top names, he won some super exciting fights, he
beat some good quality opponents. He made you know, good money,
millions of dollars. Not like he's gonna have you know,
one hundred million dollars in the bank, but he made
several many millions of dollars through the course of his career.
Two time Olympian, and you go home and you have
your first ever fight in your hometown as a professional,
only the third time and he ever fought in Mexico
in a long career as a professional. What a great
way to walk away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won these guys.
Speaker 2: These guys don't seem to be able to walk away guys,
or who knows if he will real quick. Gabriella Fundora,
who were interested in the women's undisputed flyweight champion, obviously
the sister of Sebastian Fundora, spectacular fight on her own, right,
She's got a new opponent tell us more Dan for
her fight coming up next weekend.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, it's kind of six and one half a
dozen of the other because well, Gabriella Fondora is the
one that people know and is kind of growing fan
base herself. She's one of the more exciting female boxers
out there, and you can certainly hold your head high
if you put her on your female pound for poundless.
She's a really good fighter, obviously, comes like you mentioned
the boxing family. So she's on this Golden Boy card
September twentieth, that's in Indio, California. The main event is
the unified strawweight Champion, Oscar Colaso. I kind of like
the fact that Goldenway was putting the unified strawway champ
and the undisputed women's flyweight champ. So two unified champions,
who are you know, top up and coming champions if
you will, on the same card. So she was on
that undercart in the co feature. So her original opponent
I got to get here. She was supposed to fight
a fighter named Alien Granadino who was from Argentina and
her WBA manager she could not get a visa to
come to the United States. So in the last couple
of days, Old Boy had got a new opponent. So
now she'll fight another fighter named Alexis Kubiki. But most
I guarantee you ninety nine percent of people who are
watching us never heard of either one of them, So
for the most people, it's irrelevant that they switched. But
it's notable that Fundora still has a fight coming up
and will still defend the undisputed crowd.
Speaker 1: She is a fun fighter, all right. We have one more.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't stella without fun.
Speaker 2: That is, you know that is well played by you,
even though you're a little punchy and a little grouchy.
Here tonight, we got one more thing that we need
to We need to share one more thing with the
audience on a Thursday night when we start talking fight news. Here,
wait a minute, I saw a social media picture on
Wednesday night into Thursday morning. That's my man Rayhael with Turkey.
Ala chic there Turkey doing the fists and in the
polls there, give me more.
Speaker 1: You were around the Royal Highness the Saudi prince there.
That's it's bank rolling.
Speaker 3: He's not a royal highness. He's not part of the
royal family.
Speaker 1: Not part of the royal family.
Speaker 3: They call him his excellency.
Speaker 1: As his excellency. Okay, we'll get ader of respect that,
yess okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I never met I had never met Turkey in
person before right for the last you know, a couple
of years. Turkey and I have exchanged voice mails, conversations
and and text messages and things like that for a
while about different things, on fights and all kinds of things.
But we had never met We were supposed to meet
when I was in Los Angeles last year at the
Terrence Beff fight, which was a read season card that
they put on in LA. I'm not sure what happened
when it didn't it didn't work out. I think he
might have got to town really late. Whatever it was,
we didn't. We didn't hook up that that week, but
for this one, he knew I was coming for this fight.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: We had discussed to fight a little bit on messaging,
and you know, I wanted to meet him and he
wanted to meet me. So it was an intermediary that
we're both acquainted with set up a meeting for us,
and we met. I sat with him at the fights.
They had some of the so called undercard that's supposed
to be on Saturday, but they did some free fights
here at the Font and Blue last night, and I
had the occasion to sit with him and talk to him,
and it was good to meet him in person. And
he have to say, I mean, I know everybody has
their opinion about him, how he's operating, what he's doing,
the fights, he's doing, their whole sort of plans for
what they're doing with boxing. One thing is for sure,
he is a knowledgeable boxing person if you want to
ask him about fighters. You know, he's a historian. He's
a collector guy, and we have sort of that weird
bond that we've collected stuff. But he is a true
die hard boxing fan. And you can tell by the
amount of money that they're spending and the kinds of
fights that they're making on such a regular basis. So
you know, to me, I, you know, that's a great thing.
He seems like they're in it for the long haul.
You know, I don't know how long that means, but
you know, the guy was there from the beginning of
the show, watching the undercard fights and stay till the end,
and you know, kind of like aeron that sense where
you see Bob show up at you know, the first
four rounder of the night, and and Turkey was there
to watch the guys in action. And so, like I said,
I had a chance to talk to him, to have
a nice conversation with him, and it was good. And
then we did take the obligatory photo and it was
funny because somebody took it with my camera, so I
texted him the photo. Right, so it was only later
like lately, I mean, actually been this morning. I didn't know.
I didn't post it on my social. He posted on
the social and I saw it. He didn't tag me
on it, but I saw it because I follow him
and I was like looking through my feet and I
was like, oh shit. He posted the photo of him
and I at the fights last night.
Speaker 2: You know, I got a lot of response on that,
but it was hanging out with Turkey Alishik. All right,
So the countdown does continue here a couple more comments
before we're gone, because we're serving the live audience, the savages,
the peeps, thank you all for watching live on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I know the pod audience is hearing it in its
normal routine.
Speaker 2: But from the live questions, Little Penny like my man
Penny Hardaway and Little Penny in the nineties says top
five best chins in the history of boxing Hagler one,
Ali two, Dempsey three, Canelo four, Triple G five. You
got a problem with that list, Rayfield.
Speaker 3: Those are all guys that are those are all worthy entrance.
But I'm sure if I sat and thought about it,
I might come up with some guys that belong to
it as well.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering who else might go on that. Yeah, certainly.
Certainly it was hard to knock some of those guys.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean Ali was down a couple of times in
his career and he fought all the big punches and
all the Marvin Hagler I think was down like once
and it was kind of a questionable knockdown. Right, Who
else did he mentioned Canell? We talked about who else
was over there? Might have been down maybe once, But
I mean the heart to argue with that list.
Speaker 1: Alaska Bowl, by the way, it brings.
Speaker 3: Up a great golf can also never never down.
Speaker 2: The lasta bow points out, it gets it's better to
watch in Away on Facebook better than paying forty nine
ninety five on KO Sports.
Speaker 1: That's true. You would save some money and go to
the Facebook page. That's true. Uh, let's see anything.
Speaker 3: The fact that one of those fighters at the caliber
of an Away is relegated to Facebook.
Speaker 1: In the United States, Well, it tells you what's going on,
all right. I believe that's it.
Speaker 3: That is it.
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are back handicapping the fights again. Canelo and Crawford is
virtually a fifty to fifty fight right now by the
odds makers. That's interesting. I thought Canelo would be like
to surprise you. Canelo's not like a two to one
or three to one favorite that.
Speaker 1: He's only like.
Speaker 3: Start off like that. But it's come down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's come down. There's some money coming on Crawfes.
Speaker 3: I've talked to a bunch of people in the business
and really knowledgeable boxing people since I've been here. As
i've been making the rounds and seeing old friends and
talking to people. A lot of people, I mean, certainly
a lot of people want you know, I think Canelo
wins the fight also, and they mainly based on the
on the on the disparity in terms of the weight
that they're used to fighting at. But there's a lot
of people that I respect their opinions quite a bit
who also give Crawford a one hell of a chance
to win this fight.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: It's got to move up three weight divisions. They all
got to keep that in perspective. You've been watching him.
I'm just saying, collected that you're not saying this. You've
been watching him fight David Evanessian and Israel Madramov. That's
two of his last three opponents in the last three
or four years.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: He ain't fighting those guys on Saturday, and I know
you're not saying that. All right, great stuff again, I'll
see you on the bet US show. We will attempt
to do a live show on this YouTube channel. I
say attempt because it could be chaos at Allegiance Stadium,
et cetera. We will attempt a live YouTube post fight show.
Stay tuned will be promoting that. If we can pull
that off, for certain, the podcast will be a recap
podcast whenever it comes off the weekend.
Speaker 1: For now, Dan has got a regroup.
Speaker 2: You're trying to go real quick to the fights tonight
at the Fontain Blue a late night Pacific time.
Speaker 1: Right in.
Speaker 3: The Canelo main event press conference. Isn't like it is
about an hour right, but you.
Speaker 2: Can hear Canelo again you heard him on the podcast,
or to just go to the YouTube page where you
are right now and going to the videos and you
can hear from Canelo with Dan from yesterday about this fight.
Speaker 1: Listen, great job here tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Let's regroup and I will see you on the bet
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