Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to I don't
know what number this is episode. Because we're recording this
in the past, ladies and gentlemen, we're dropping our nine
No god damn a wake up dead Man Knives Out
story spoilers of you. I'm again the hairtech trast. Now
I'm joined by I'm still the Scooby Doo hit a Field. Yeah,
so obviously a couple of weeks ago, unless you watch
it on YouTube. A couple of weeks ago. We dropped
our nonsploors thoughts on Knives Out because we got to
see it a little bit earlier before as the Netflix
for a bunch of people to see, because, as we
talked about in that episode, not everybody gets to see it,
not playing it all theaters, so we did just a
smaller episode there. But this episode's all about that, so
you can go back for our initial thoughts. I guess
to give me give you a quick overall. Is I
enjoyed it. I still like it. I like the world
they create. I think it's a little less funny. I
think it's not a little funny. I mean, I guess
I should preference with I think it on purpose is
not being as comedic, much like Glass Anyone's on purpose
being very more comedic and as right now I have
it ranked last. I think there's some issues with the characters.
That's so much of characters, the issues of lack of
the characters, and I feel like we maybe made some
of the how we got to the found kill took
one too many twists and turns. But Taylor, give me
a quick thirty seconds of what we just talked about
in the past. But your thoughts, Okay, someone's just tuning
in for the spoilers of you. Just your thoughts on
knives out three here, even though I know it's not
called that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what it's lacking in character development. I think
it makes up for in being similar to that first
movie in regards to it's aesthetic, it's smaller scale and
the not excessive comedy. It just kind of has that nice,
perfect balance in my opinion, of just having the comedic
hits and also the serious moments too, and then also
getting into a little bit I don't want to say horror,
but just being a little bit more fucking cat just
scared the shit out of me. These fucking cats need
to just chill man.
Speaker 1: You sound like Josh O'Connor in this movie.
Speaker 2: My God, But yeah, it just they it does a
good job at just being tense and like just very
little little horror horror, not actual horror horror, but uh yeah,
it's it does a really good job at just kind
of like adding more to the universe and has a
lot of innocent, humorous beats. It's one of the reasons
I really like Blanc as a character, and this one
more than glass Onion, because glass Onion was just a
little bit too too much communic in my opinion, But
in this one, it's just it's nice because he's he's
very cute and like adorable, if that makes sense, and
so I really like and jib with how he's his
mannerisms are and how he acts with certain things in
these situations. So I think they do a great job
at putting him in here. It would have been nice
to have him a little bit more or as like
a focal point. Is it being his story instead of
the focus being retroactively or other main character who's just
kind of like recounting a situation and then things catch
up and then it's like, Okay, this is the narrative
moving forward, So I would like it if they kind
of kept Blanc a little bit more in there at
the start. But it's it's okay. I mean, he comes
in kind of feels like it feels like if don't
even in like the first act when we finally get
him in there, and we miss a lot of potential
time with him. But I get it because the story
needs to kind of establish itself a little bit before
we explore that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's about it. Yeah, well that's where
we can start too. Like you know, Kirklam's fair Play
start from the beginning, but I want to start there
because obviously, even when knives out, I watched it, and
it starts with all the characters, you know, we lose
a character and all them mer explain the story, and
ben Wan Blanc is just in the background sitting listening
right even Glassy Glass. I mean, he's actually in there
pretty quick, to be honest, But with this one, i'd
have to claw it. I'm gonna say twenty minutes. It
could be a little less, but it feels because you
get some credits everything. I feel like it's about twinmans
until we get to ben Well Blanc and maybe even longer.
I could be wrong, but the opening of this movie
is Josh O'Connor writing a story of how they got
to this point, right, and it's not just which I
do appreciate because that's the thing, right when you're Ryan
Johnson and you're it's not like it's okay, we're doing
the Knives Out franchise and each one it's a new
director like a Star Wars. Right, it's it's him doing
all these So he's probably trying to find, Kay, how
can I do this differently? How I can start, how
could end it? How could I pace it? So I
do applaud this idea of it's not just oh, murder happens,
and then we get to it, it's okay, this character's
gonna sit down and literally talk about his life to
get not his whole life, but you know the last
I'd say year or so, because I think they say
he was on this island for nine months. I think
at one point Josh Brolin said to him, so let's
just you know, wrap it up into both that he's
explaining a whole year of his life to Ben one
Blanc in a letter, which, again, because we're in spoilers. Now,
you would think that, oh, he has this letter, he's
sending it off, can I get your help? That letter
isn't actually written n til like further in the movie,
like an hour hour and a half, Like it's doing
the kind of pulp fiction thing where you see multiple
things that happen at very different times, so you think, oh,
that's the setup, and no, it's it's not. Because at first,
when he's in the church and he's praying and Daniel
Craig walks up to him, I was like, Okay, if
you wrote a letter to Ben one Blanc, who they've
established in these movies is somewhat famous, right, not like
uber famous, but like enough that people like, oh you
saw this, or you solve that, or like they said
on this one, you've been on the View, or you've
been on Oprah, that type of stuff, right, So I'd go, Okay,
he wrote him a letter and he sent it to him,
but he's annoying to who this guy is. I already
was ready to ding it. I was like, what is this, Like,
this is illogical. You would hire this guy and you
don't even know what he looks like. But it's played
later on and that's the thing that he I think
comes in at a great moment, has like a great
entrance if he just makes him loud, like yell or
yawn or something. I don't know how he enters, but
it's just great. And it's great right way too. They
establish he doesn't even try to hear him out or
play along. He just right away establishes like I'm not
a man of cloth, I don't follow any Christian values,
like I hate being here. But he's also not hateful,
which is like pretty much when people want to like
I am hateful to people that push their religion on
people in certain groups that are hate groups, yes, but
for the concept of religion or faith, I'm very much
like been on a bloc where say, hey, you're not
gonna like none of this is for me, You're not
gonna convince me, but I'm happy you got it. So
I like that kind of jovial and even Josha Connor
picks up on that. Be Okay, this guy, like, I mean,
I try and tell him why we do these things,
but he's not really digging what I'm putting down. But yeah,
the whole opening of this movie is explaining where he is,
how he gets this island. Even the time with Josh
Josh Brolin, it's like, oh he dies, we learn him
on after, we learn a lot about him before he
even dies. Right, So they play with it in quite
a different way and even last sunning and they did
that as well too. But that's what I was gonna
say is in the previous I wasn't sure if they
showed him. I was happy to see Jeffrey Wright at
the beginning. We talked about this and nonspoils. There's a
scene with Josh O'Connor because he punched a deacon because
he was an asshole, and he's kind of telling these
other priests or whatever the rankings are about, like how
can I kind of make good right in the ideas
you're gonna go this isle and help this community. This
scene that's where these windows that they're SINEMI did not
look real. I could be wrong, right, If they are real,
then I take it back. And it just was shot
in a weird way. But it didn't look right. But
I didn't hear if they did an as Jeffrey Wright
was in this, I completely missed it. I always like
seeing Jeffrey Wright. But what I found was funny was
they've done this last movie too, I'd only have Knives out.
But obviously Daniel Craig was in the Bond series because
Jeffrey Wright was in those as well. He was Felix,
and then Andrew Scott, the writer. In this movie, like
the novel Skuy, he was inspector. And then in the
last movie Batista was in that with Danil Craig inspector.
So he's bumping into these like other Bond actors that
he shared time, especially at the end when they were
standing beside each other Craig and Jeffrey Right is like,
oh my god, because I was like, okay, different rights
in this movie, buta he's not gonna have any screen
time with Daniel Craig, and they was seen together. I'm like,
oh my god, you're putting the band back together. But yeah,
what did you think about the opening how we met
brol in the church. Everything is kind of set up
of fars and and I think this was way more
like Knives as far as meeting the characters of the
last time you met them in a different way, kind
of one by one, where this was one by one meeting.
I felt like Craig would get closer to characters or
you get more reviews where Knives Out felt like they
got sat down because they were being interviewed and you're
literally learning about everybody at the same time, where this
kind of felt like that as well too, where O'Connor
was telling us, but this time he was the one
leading it, so he, i mean.
Speaker 2: Was leading it, and it just was an act of
like you're trying to pick up the story beats and
everything from Blanc's point of view, but it just feels
like the whole time Bloc is just keeping the main
character out of jail, out of Preston. That's it. As
he's just trying to keep him out, Like you don't
really get him interviewing or pushing all the other people, right,
It's just like that's another downside. It's like, oh, here's
a video of just everything that happened, and he watches
a video and you get to see everything going on
with everyone talking and whatnot, and it's like, well that
was it was a comedic relief, but it takes away
from our development with our characters.
Speaker 1: Well it's a trade off, well it is, but even
in that scene though, when he watched this video, it's
really just Carry Washington and Josh Brolin all the rest
of the characters. They say a few things, but they're
pretty much just sitting there listening. So it is that
trade off where it is you're doing it in a
different way, but you do feel like you know these
characters a lot less, you know, like kat like I said,
Katy Spainey. They set up this storyline that And that's
one thing I'll say about Knives Out. Maybe I've never
enjoyed them as much because of this. No, I won't
say it, but as much as other people in Knives Out,
I couldn't believe when people were like hailing the twist
because it's like I felt like it's Chris Evans and
I was right. And the second one, I was right
about Edward Norton because I said this, I think in
the review and Ian Washington Day, they do something and
Edward Norton does this like really shocked face, and I think,
I said the review like they should have done another
taken tone. They ask him like, can you tone down
my thirty percent? Because this face that he does just reveals, Oh,
this guy's a fucking killer. I'll say I got this
half right. I thought it was gonna be we'll get there.
It was gonna be Glenn Close in Kaylee Spainey, We'll
get to the reveal after. But I thought Kaylee Spainey
because they dropped a few things of you know, there's
a money subplot in this, and they talked about this
character is spending a bunch of money. They say she's
practically funding the church because the idea is she used
to be like a famous or very talented cellist, and
she has some sort of disease or some sort of
treatment that's happening with her body, that her body's kinda
breaking down on her right. So her idea is she's
you know, the Josh Brolin's character is not promise but
pretty much promise. Hey, you come to this church, you're
with me, God's gonna heal you. Right in this thing,
she's dumping sorts of money, So I thought, okay. And
at one point too, they say when they're interviewing Josh O'Connor,
Meelie Koon is like, oh yeah, you on this list.
You're the only guy that hates Josh Brolin, so you
know when sus But I thought, well, Katy spain he's
a clear like she's gonna hate him becase he's taking
all his money, right, But that really never went anywhere.
Even then at the end when they think he's back
and he's risen, she's just sitting in the chair like waiting.
It just kind of felt, Oh, there's a couple of
other actors I understood, like Tomas Saint Church, I understand
when he's not in a bunch, But Katy Spain's kind
of becoming like a bigger star. But that's where it's like,
I don't know much about her character, you know, I
don't know why she feels so sure this guy is
gonna heal her or the praying to God's gonna heal her. Right.
So that's where there's characters in that room that I
feel like we do kind of miss out on some more,
not even motivations, just getting to know him a bit better. So, oh,
I think Tay's gone. Now we got our answer. Earlier,
Taylor was like, oh, I'm coming back, I'm coming back.
I'm coming back. In He's coming back. The aar has
asked me, oh, mind the problem. He just looks very
seriously going back. There you go, Oh my goodness, there
your back.
Speaker 2: But I gotta get this, you know, it's it's funny
because the Wi Fi monum is like it's only like
ten feet it's an open space. I can see it
with my eyes. It's like right super close. But it's
not good enough. Yeah. Yeah, I lost my hard wire
because I went wireless. Now fucking her Anyways, what was
the last note you said there?
Speaker 1: Because I was so because you were talking about characters
we didn't get to know as much because of Ben
woll Bloc not interviewing them, And I was using Keille
Spainey's character asm thing because I would have liked to
know why. Because they didn't make her seem like a
complete dumb character. So I would believe you put this
character who's very naive or ignorant or just kind of childish,
you would believe, oh she's been tricked into hey I
can heal you. But they didn't play it off with her.
She just felt like a normal person that had some
money and had a disease. So that's where I felt.
She was a character that really suffered from not getting
to know more or just not having enough writing around her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, and I do feel too at the
same time that she's a she was definitely wronged because
everyone was just calling her the the what was her
term again, not the heretics, hectic wore or something like that.
Like everyone just hated her just because she just got pregnant. Right,
So it all seems to start with this.
Speaker 1: Father that was Josh Brolin's. That's not who killed Yeah,
that's not whokaya Kaylee Spainey pit played who I was
talking about? Or you just talk about the mom separately.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought she played the mom who Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the girl from Alien Ramins was the girl in
the wheelchair with the braying and like trying to get better.
Speaker 2: That was the same one. Oh I thought she was
the mom.
Speaker 1: No, and that I could understand because that's like, oh,
this is a fun quick cameo because I said, we'll
talking about Josh Brolin's mom and she's like this crazy
character for us, right, But no, that's I mean like
Alien ram like and you have seen her other stuff.
But or it's even Civil War, right, we just saw
her like last year in Civil War and she's great.
That's what it's like. I just felt like when she
was cast, I was like, oh, I bet she's gonna
be one of the killers because you're getting this great
up and coming actress and we'll get to who the
killers are. But she is not one of them, and
she doesn't do much in this movie. You know, she's
just a victim of Josh Brolin.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, she's yeah, she is a victim. She's
just there present nothing really yeah, give him money, nothing
really crazy. So yeah, I mean she kind of gets
a happy story at the end, I guess, but she definitely, Yeah,
she definitely did not contribute to too much. She was
just serving as like I need to know if this
is real? Yeah, yeah, yeaha just kind of appearing there,
and I think she was. They throw in these extra
characters because they don't want you to just be able
to hone in and figure out who the bad guy's
going to be true, even though like I feel like
in one of my cons with a lot of who
done it is that, oh it was everyone. I think
that's I won't say that because that's a swell for
the Orient Express, but they but I think everyone and yeah,
all or in Express. It was literally fucking everyone that
was on that train was the murderer. And so I
don't like when they do group murder like that. But
in this case, like I liked, okay, this is it
was team, but it just went kind of fucking sideways
and greed kind of took over. And so with again
that was only like I'll say three three people either
like the nine or the eight or however any people
but her spent Kaylee being in there, like she didn't
feel like she had a lot of weight behind her
in being a possible contender for the murder suspect.
Speaker 1: Right. I only thought the money though, just because she
was spending so much money. At one point in the movie,
she says like, I've given you all my money, So
that's I thought, if that character finds out about this
jewel or these eight million dollars, like that would be
motivation to take this person out right and that and
especially too, they don't show her walk in the middle
of movie. She gets up and walk and it's a
comedic beat, but you can walk in some miracle now,
I can still walk. But I thought that was then
maybe tip in their hair, And that's why I said that.
I think could have been a good red airing because
that could have showed, oh, maybe she's not let on
as much as she can. But no, it wasn't her,
And that that's where you were about to talk about
the Josh Burl mother thing. They set up that there's
this there's a shadow of a not a shadow, but
there's a what have a stain where it cross would
have been? Is that what you would call it? So
big wall, big cross no longer there just the stain
of it. You tell this whole story about Josh Brown's
mother pretty much is just like a scarlet letter. She
had a chat at a wedlock. She's just like prostituting
stuff around the city. She's just kind of there. And
the only reason she's at the church is her dad said, Hey,
if you stay close, you stay here with your kid
that's or his grandson, you'll get the money or you'll
get whatever I have. And obviously they venture revealed that
the dad has nothing because he h swallowed this diamond.
I'll just say that. But and which I liked. I
liked the high idea they show at first that this
woman just would nut since she destroyed the church, but
really she was just looking for the diamond. That's so
what tipped me off to Glenn Close is the flashback
with the little girl, in the fact that she was
there for this vital stuff and that moment where she
whispered into and they didn't let us like see what
she said, and obviously she said something a lot worse
going on here, like a whore or something. But the
second they did that in the movie, I was like, Okay,
Glenn Close is at least a part of this. I
did not know it was gonna be three and like
I said, I thought it was Glenn Close and Killy Spainy.
So I was completely wrong on the the spaining part.
But I'm so happy knives that I still can usually
sus like, I just feel like Ryan John says little
little things he does in each movie that are very
consistent with who the killer is. But yeah, what did
you think about at least the setup of Brolin's family
and this church and everything going on there, because I
quite enjoyed. I liked the setup and I did like
the revelation of it later on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that was great. It's again, it's
just it's it comes down to, like, oh, your perspective
and what you're seeing in the scene and what on
what they're I guess what they're allowing you to see
and allowing you what to know at this point in
the story. I like that a lot, and it just
it fits with the girl being in the same mentality
as the dad of the guy who started all by
eating the diamond, which rough that thing was huge. That
would hurt like a mother trucker to swallow that thing.
But yeah, I think I do feel bad for the
daughter because she definitely got the short end of the
stick here and it kind of, you know, screwed her over.
I don't think she was really as bad as they
were probably kind of putting her out to be. I
think that's just, uh, this is just part of setting
up the old lady as a character and the father
priest guy as a character and all that. But yeah,
it's it was really really good and zany when they
get to see what happens after, because when she's screaming
and acting all demonic and then she like jumps on
top of the little girl starts punching her something, and
holy fuck, it was crazy. But I like how it
was legit logically explained afterwards.
Speaker 1: In the same sense and reveals for her parent and whatnot.
How did you feel about Josh brolin sigh being related,
because I think that was in there just for red hairing,
because I feel like it didn't really go much places.
I thought if he was in all the mystery helping
him die, et cetera. Sure, but I think that was
just throw red hairing at all. Maybe his now illegitimate
son that he hasn't known for thirty years could be
a part of it, but I feel like after the fact,
now I feel like it's just kind of all right.
I don't know if I added much to the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't add much. It's just you know, just
the sense that, Okay, he wants money, and it's just
kind of full circle, I guess, right, just the the
I don't know if it's supposed to echo what the
daughter was like as a character, I guess, and how
it's just but I think it was just supposed to
come back to just greed and just this evil diamond
that everyone highly cuvets, I guess. But yeah, he was
an interesting character and I feel like that they added
a lot of layers to him where he was the
illegitimate's illegitimate son of well I can't remember her name,
but her her father and it was just kind of
a sibling. But it turns out no they're not even siblings.
This guy just was going coots with Max. I think
his name is Max, right monsignor Max for Josh Brolin's character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, but I'll get that confirm there.
It was. No, it was not Max. It was Jefferson Wicks.
Speaker 2: Wix, That's what I meant. Yeah, it was a three
leader name.
Speaker 1: I don't see any Max on here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was just kind of it was
nuts with him passing off his illegitimate son to this
other guy. And I guess he didn't know it would
have been the woman that did that, and then they
kind of rekindled and found out after the fact.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so how did this work?
Speaker 2: So the son and Wicks were forming a plan to
go and get the diamond and.
Speaker 1: Then oh, he didn't even know because at that point
because Wicks just won, Well he didn't, but he was
told right because the lady, the old lady, Yeah, what
was supposed to have the confession, but.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I had confession with the wrong priest and
so told Wicks and Wicks is I thought we was
gonna go and make a move to get it, and
so she made a move first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm happy because At one point, I thought
they were trying to make it look like he did
do this big, elaborate faking of the death thing to
get the diamond, especially at one point when they show
him in the morgue and they flipped the body over.
It's very comedian, but they flipped the body over and
everything to me, I was showing he is dead. So
I was really hoping there was because they were trying
to They showed some drug and I was like, oh, no,
is that me trying to say, like he just took
the classic slow your heart right down, so people thought
you were dead. So I was really happy they didn't
go that route. It just sounded like at the end
of the Eastern Mass he was just gonna go and
like get the diamond, like break down the thing and
then leave with the sun or help with Son, do whatever. Right,
So I don't think they had a full plan. I
think it was just kind of the the inklings of
the start of a plan. So and uh yeah, and
that's where we're not gonna get in all the Sadario
because there's ton they throw a lot out there. At
one point, they're trying to make you think that Josh
O'Connor is a killer, because's like, I gotta tell the
police I killed him. This is where I did not.
I felt they're kind of being too cheeky in the
way where I feel like it's like, okay, you're kind
of fucking with us the viewers. They had O'Connor multiple
times saying that he killed somebody, but then they later
reveal that it's SAMs and that he thinks he killed right.
But they're making us think that he's because they have
this one where millicun is, which is a great scene
earlier on where Daniel Craig talks about the Hallowman the
book The Hall Man. He's like, oh, for the trap
there's something like a secret trap door. There's three ways
where you can do it, and he lied there's actually
four ways. And she reads this and they kind of
reveal that. Okay, and it's fake obviously, but Josh O'Connor
is the killer, and Dani with Craig is like, yeah,
I figured that out before, which I thought was very
very risky of him. He does a few things like
later on when Glenn Close is dying and he's like, oh,
I knew by the loog o of her lips and
Melacuna is like, go check the van, we might have
a med kid. I was like, man, imagine if they
did find a med kid and Daniel Craig just let
this fucking woman die like I know she's going to prison.
It's just like that's where there's a couple of times
where it's like he's playing like God. It's funny where
it is like he's not a religious guy, but it
feels like he's just like playing with these people lives
and that that's a moment. Also they didn't like too
where he he's his whole speech and he sits down
and he pretends that he didn't figure out the mystery
for Glenn close to come forward and tell him like
her and you know, do a confession like Church. That's
me felt way too much like you don't know this person,
you know his character. All you know is that she
could have been murdering people. It's like, and you're gonna
put faith and again that's what the movie is about.
I just feel like it came off very cheesy that
and very batman God to your motive, just he would
know he knew that Glenn Coast, even though got away
of everything, was gonna come back in admitt it all.
It's like, what happened. If she didn't, she would just
died and then they would have to take Ben wa
Blanc's like word. So it just it felt to me
too much of a stretch for them to do that.
But that's what I was trying to get back to.
It is josh O'Connor multiple times says, so I gotta
admit that I killed them. I gotta turn myself in
the police. That was a super funny scene though, when
Mila Kunis is pissed off of Daniel Craig that she's
pretty much knows that he figured out that at this
point that they think josh O'Connor did it, and he's like,
you better if you find him, you better let me know.
He's like, oh, yeah, of course, I wish I knew
where he was. And josh O'Connor walks into the police
station and no one sees josh O'Connor. He's walking up
and Ben Block like runs over covers him, gets in
the car. So that was a funny scene. But then
when they get in that car, he's like, I gotta
go to the police that I gotta admit that I
killed Samson. This whole time, they're trying to make us
think that because Mila Kuna said, oh, he killed Josh Brolin,
and then he's saying I killed somebody, they're kind of
fool like it's an unreliable narrator. But it's not a
character that's crazy or lying. It's them kind of cutting
things out into me in a clever way, in a
way where it feels like, Okay, that's kind of cheap.
And the other thing I didn't like was I get it.
You could say maybe it's he was hallucinating the adrenaline.
At this point, they do this moment where I guess
I'm kind of putting the whole mystery here, but Glennon
Close reveals that and again this to me was a
big stretch, but they they used it as she's very
religious and want to do a big faith thing to
make people believe. So I can kind of believe that
because people that are very religious can do something pretty
crazy that Josh Broln is dead, but they're gonna have
Thomas Ain and Church pose as Josh Brolin to make
it look like he's alive again, like he's risen. Right,
So this happens and the plan goes to shit. Also,
you've seen the movie, you know, but they have this
moment where Thomas Sain in Church he punches joshuacnnor. So
that's why he thinks he killed them because he wakes
up Samson's dead. But when Josh O'Connor is back in
the woods and he's running around and it's like flashing,
he's going through it. I guess you can say adrenaline.
I guess you'd say he's concussed. But they're flashing lights
in the wood and they're literally showing you Josh Brolin's face.
There's no if and or, but it's not like a
because they do which I applaud with this one. They
day there might be dead. They they have the groundskeeper,
that's who Thomas ain and Church plays right. And there's
one time earlier in the movie where he's in a
rain jacket and he has the light and it's fully
covering his face. You can't see him, and then he
takes off his hood. He's like, hey, what you doing
and it's him, right, So multiple times throughout the movie
you see this person in a trench go and it's
Jeremy Render posing as him, but you see him and
you can't see his face, so you know, okay, they're
insinuating that's to Thomas Ain and Church, but it's likely
someone else. Right. But that's the thing where in this
conflict at the end, when Josh O'Connor's there, they're showing
you the groundskeeper, but you don't see his face the
entire time. You don't. It's just the hood and darkness, right,
So you go, okay, and to me that works because
it's it's us assuming it's us, be our own thoughts,
who could that be? Or you just even think it's
still Thomas Ain Church? Right? Where when you show Josh
Rolin's literal face in this like it's not a reveal,
but near the end, that's kind of like unfair to
the viewers, right, because you again you have to kind
of stretch and headcant yourself as far as Okay, he
has a concussion, he's going loopy, So I thought that
was a little dangerous. Again, I feel wonder I'm not
throwing a tailor. His WiFi has died, so that's why
this is a solo review until he gets back. But
I just thought it was kind of cheap to show
him off, like just like that. I would have loved
if you would have had the light flashes and you
see the silhouette of Josh Brolin because they made a
look like that. They gave him a beard similar haircut
the silhouette of Josh brol But then after the fact,
it's saw him saying Church and I bet maybe if
you slowed down, I bet you probably see some stuff
where hay in Church's face is kind of in there.
But it felt kind of a little cheap to me.
So that's where it didn't feel like the Revelations like well,
of course, like the other movies, it feels like, oh,
I couldn't get that because I've not seen the whole story.
I've not put together. But if I could have thought
of it, I could have got there, right. But the
second you see Josh Brown walking around, you go, Okay,
I guess he's back some now or he faked his death,
which I didn't want either, right, So maybe on a
second watch some of the stuff will play better for me.
But in the moment during that just didn't really work
for me. So, uh, let me see says he's just stuck.
So oh man, the poor, the poor wife. I don't
want