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Will somebody give that poor dog a hot dog? Please

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do it right now, I've never seen a sadurface. I

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want nothing. I want to pet that dog.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that dog is not a liar? Like

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every dog? I feel like I feel like that dog

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definitely had a hot dog gaming before.

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Speaker 2: Most privileged dog. He was at a ballgame.

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Speaker 3: By the way he was.

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Speaker 2: He was at a ballgame like.

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Speaker 3: This because I wasn't at a game.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't at the I can't afford the game. He

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can afford the game. He just couldn't get the hot dog.

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He probably ate like seven hot dogs before. But dude,

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hat tip to UH to mL hat tip to the

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Marlins for embracing everybody that was like, you know, this

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is what I love the Internet and da da da

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great meme worthy stuff, but also embracing. They put him

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on a wanted poster and they want to treat him to.

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Speaker 3: A whole dog day.

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Speaker 2: It's great advertisement. I mean, probably more dogs in that

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ballpark than people, most advertisement that ballpark's and a kid

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in the positive advertising than anything. But I'm I'm I

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don't like I saw something that said they found him,

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and then I've just i feel like I've seen nothing,

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but like everybody is still searching for him. So I

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don't really understand what's happening, but we need to get

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that dog all the hot dogs that he's ever wanted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like they'll find the dog,

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the dog will have a huge day at the ballpark,

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and it'll still be getting more baseball stuff than you

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and I get. So, but it was. It was a

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cool thing to see. So almost as cool as like,

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I feel like the internet has been pretty good last

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couple weeks, like with the World Cup being here and

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everybody enjoying America and realizing that not everyone here is

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crazy is pretty cool. So uh that just the internet

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has been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Sophie, it's the greatest meme maybe I've ever seen.

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You know what, I have not seen a single person

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miss on the Sophie Cunningham meme. The NBA player she's

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doing the pointing. She's great. The meme is great, every

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single one. It might be it might be the greatest

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meme of all time, Like everything works for it. You're right,

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there's been.

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Speaker 3: Uh to the menu when I can't pronounce what I want?

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Whatever you it could be Welsh pointing at piece of

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PA when piece of Pa says we told you so,

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Like whatever you want to do, like any of those,

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you can have the House of the Dragon memes the

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day before. We're really great. It is a really it's

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a good meme time right now, which means something horrible

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is about happened for sure. Wow, sure, yeah, you know,

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I think we've in Venezuela right right, we've covered a

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horrible bank.

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Speaker 3: Enough, right, I think it's time to start cashing some

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of those checks.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, get that dog a hot dog and

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then we're going to be talking. We're going to be

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for sure. I am I am fir.

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Speaker 3: That's when we know the Internet is fixed and the

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country when that dog gets its hot dog.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent you are right, Yeah, the world is

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turning when that poort not gas prices, yeah, not anything.

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It is that dog is eating a beautiful stinky glizzy.

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Speaker 3: That's my UFC two fifty.

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Speaker 2: So that dog dog versus hot dogs?

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Speaker 3: How many hot dog eating hot dogs over Joey Chestnut

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eating hot dogs?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that would be that, you know what, that would

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be the thing they should do, though, they should actually

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have Joey Chestnut come in. Well, that dog most dog.

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Here's the problem with that, Like, who can eat four

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hot dogs faster? But do you think that dog would

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ever stop? Like you'd probably know if you put.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying, Like it would kill the dog.

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That's why it has to be who can eat four

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hot dogs faster? That dog or Joey Chestnut. That's what

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the thing needs to be.

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Speaker 2: That dog is rap.

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Speaker 3: That's the rule, that's the goal. Now, this is what

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we do.

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Speaker 2: This is America, all right. So fun that was a

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fun thing. A lot of crazy stuff around baseball too.

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We're gonna be like I mentioned before, dog's got a

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good list of some trends looking at the different statistical

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trends of pitchers month over month and like, you know,

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some guys that have really popped. It will give us

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a good conversation piece. Lots of news out there today itself.

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By the way, games already going underway. We had an

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almost no hitter and then in the same game we

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ended up having a three homer shot. The Rays went

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to what was it, Bogs? Was it the ninth or

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the eight?

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Speaker 3: It was the ninth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a piggyback thing where and Seymour was

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the second on the piggyback. And then Craig Kimbrel came

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in in the ninth. They had a combined no hitter

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going on, and then he proceeds to give up two

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earned runs as you do as a Craig Kimberl would do.

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That's what he as you do, and he gave up

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that one home run. But in the same game the

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game was so out of tow. We were laughing about

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this because I picked Juter Kimerenero yesterday for our home

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run contest. He hit three today and one of them

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was off with Tyler Tolbert because the game was so

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out of hand. So Junior Cameronara with a three for five,

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six RBI, three homer day getting what was that up

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to his nineteenth home run, obliterating it. Dude. We keep

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getting so close to these combined no hitters. That's like

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two in the last week. We just can't finish it.

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Speaker 3: Or four homer game. We're a homer away from a

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four homer game. But yeah, almost your favorite thing in

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the world, to combine no hitter. Is it a shock

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that Craig Kimberl was the guy that gave up the

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two run over to blow it at the end. Not

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a shock at all to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he was actually just interviewed too,

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and he was just like.

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Speaker 3: An idio job available for him somewhere a booth, dude, somewhere, Dude.

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Speaker 2: Liam Hendrix is still going. You know, Liam Hendricks just

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got added to the Cubs like ACL roster out there

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like Kimberland. Hint, they're still just they're letting it rule.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Liam Hendricks had extenuating circumstances to why he's

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not playing.

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Speaker 2: No, I understand that, but I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 3: Like it. I guess it's not surprising that Liam Hendrix,

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who a lot like Craig Kimbrel seems to clearly not

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have it anymore, is still trying where Craig Kimberl hasn't

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had it since the Alec Thomas bomb.

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Speaker 2: I mean to do my thing that I've done, I'm

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just obsessed with. Is Is Craig Kimberl a Hall of Famer?

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Is that like a lock? He won Rookie of the Year,

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nine time All Star?

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna give him any free world series like

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we did with Bryce Harper? I can't remember if that

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was you or man. I don't know if that was

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you or me either, I'm pretty sure, and I apologize

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I was incorrect. For whatever reason, I was getting Bryce

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Harper and Wan Soto mixed up because they're both super

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young when they came up with the Nationals. So I

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don't know, I'm just stupid.

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Speaker 2: I know I said MVP. I just don't know if

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I said it right or wrong. He went NLCS MVP.

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We got that wrong. But Craig Kimbell did win a

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World Series, and I don't know what role age relief.

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I guess that's Reliever of the Year.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's like the I mean, that is the

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relievers young.

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Speaker 2: Will you do this for me real quick? Will you

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pull up Billy Wagner? Yeah, okay, because let's put up

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let's pull up a Hall of Fame relief pitcher, and

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let's do some comparisons because we all get kind of lost.

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Sometimes I get lost when I think about guy's careers,

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especially when it kind of fades. Craig Kimberl obviously was

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an absolutely dominant guy. But the problem is is like

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for the last like six years, it's been pretty rough.

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Let's go through real quick and do some comparisons. How

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many years did Billy Wagner play.

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Speaker 3: It looks like fifteen sixteen seasons.

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Speaker 2: Okay, seventeen for Kimberl? Does it? Looking there? Can you

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see his war just as I'm just curious right next

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to under years if you go to the bottom and

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you see, I'm on Baseball Reference, I don't know. Twenty

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four okay, twenty two point six? What was Billy Wagner's

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career era?

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Speaker 3: His career ra was two three one.

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Speaker 2: Two six four? How many games?

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Speaker 3: Uh, eight hundred and fifty three, eight.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and seventy for Kimberl Now now the big one.

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How many saves for Billy Wagner?

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Speaker 3: Four hundred and twenty two four forty?

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Speaker 2: So that's the Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe everybody knew that immediately, Like I knew he

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was in that rank.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't.

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Speaker 2: I knew he was close part that, that's a no

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doubt if But what is you're.

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Speaker 3: You're right there? What's his era been over the last

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three seasons? Okay? Because I'm sure it was bad for

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Billy at the end too.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four was five point it was five point

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three two point twenty five last year, very very only

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fourteen games this year it's five point two to one.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, Billy Wagner had an era over

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two point eight five once ever in his career. So

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what do you at point one eight?

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Speaker 2: What do you think Kimberll's going for? Still, like when

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I mean out instead of getting your paychecks, it's nice

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to keep rolling out there. But like I I think

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you just I don't know if there's a record you're

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going for. It's a very storied career, Like it's a

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little different than like probably what Liam Hendrick just belonged

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to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll and I'll you know, we don't understand

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this either because we haven't been in it since we

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were you know five, Right, It's what it's the thing

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that you have done since you were a kid, is

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played baseball. So I'm sure it's hard to give up

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not only the career and the money and the fame

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that comes along with it, but just your everyday routine,

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what you do, uh with your teammates and all that stuff,

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Like you are your life is completely changing. Uh So

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I understand the trepidation for some of these guys to

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leave that have been in the league for sixteen seventeen years.

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Remember Billy Wagner was Billy Wagner was crying when he retired.

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He did not want to retire. He was just hurt.

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So I get it. But dude, like your career has

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been so good, I feel like the last couple of

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seasons you're kind of sullying it. He's still going to

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be a Hall of Famer. It just looks terrible.

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Speaker 2: But I guess I guess my main point to looking

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at that was like, he didn't stain. You're not going

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to stain.

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Speaker 3: Your Yeah he's not. He's not.

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Speaker 2: No matter what he does here, you can get blown up.

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I don't think you're getting over three era, But yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've a hit today.

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Speaker 2: My obsession this year has just been like the current

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players of like are they all Hall of It? Because

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I just don't pay attention to a lot of that

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stuff because I kind of don't care sometimes about about

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some of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also the you know, the Baseball Hall of

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Fame is a bunch of hard ohs saying no one

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can go in on first ballot and blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Blah, oh yeah, ECHI road not being unanimous and bonds

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because of whatever, Like those two things. I just it's

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like I just don't take it that serious.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I used to really care about the Hall.

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I do not care. I could care less.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't take it. That's I'm just curious when

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players like the Kimberl's and the Goldschmiths, I look and

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I'm like, are these players currently trajectory type of Hall

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of Famers that are still going on?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Goldie, you sure played like one two homers off of

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Schooble and VP and VP. Did you see car designated? No? Well, yeah,

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well dude, they designated Carlos Santana for assignment, so he's gone.

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And they didn't want to pay two more million dollars

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for Goldie. And look at the level of Santana. The

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biggest waste of two Now it's too million dollars, but

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the biggest waste of money they could have had Goldie.

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Speaker 3: Hazen said they never even talked to Goldie, though.

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Speaker 2: I think Goldie literally said he talked to the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hazen said today, they never even talked to him.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a load of garbage. Well, but

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you know what, even more embarrassing for yourselves. Yeah, even

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more embarrassing for yourself. That's worse than saying you talk

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to him and it didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah, if you knew you were going into

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this season with No Planet first and you didn't go

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get Goldie. I mean, really, if Carlos Santana was the

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babysitter for Kateel Marte number one, he was never needed. Obviously,

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Kattel has been doing fine outside of this boob nightingale

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bs that that happened, which everyone in the organization and

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his manager said is not true. But he wasn't needed

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at all, So it is ridiculous that they didn't even

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talk to Goldie. If that is I think that you're right.

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I think that is worse.

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. I think it's embarrassing. And the year that

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Goldie is putting up right now looks insane. Two ninety seven,

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fourteen homers, A three fifty five OBP. I just like,

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I just think this is gonna sustain. Like, I don't

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see why this is going to fall apart. He's weirdly

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not hitting righties this year, and he's hitting four hundred

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against lefties, which I just think those are going to

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balance themselves out. You know, He's gonna start hitting righties

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a little bit if the lefties come down. He's barreling.

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Is the best barrel rate he's had since twenty eighteen.

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He's getting the ball in the air, he's still hitting

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it hard, he's not striking out a ton more, he's

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pulling the ball more than he's ever done in his career,

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and he's in a super hitter friendly environment and Carless

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Dan not coming back anytime soon. Goldie has just been

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legit and he keeps rolling with it. I love to

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see it because I'm a you and I we had

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to do emergency podcast because we were so upset that the

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Diamondbacks traded Paul Goldschmith. We love him, but it just

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it's extra pissy when you look at the bar embarrassing

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failure at first base that Diamondbacks had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you say, is the worst first base

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in the history of baseball?

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Speaker 2: Like ops? Like Ope, it was like the worst OAP.

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Maybe it's changed, but it was like the worst OPS

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combined at first base since like nineteen twenty. That's what

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it was like. It's it's ridiculous, embarrassing, and goldiekids, I mean,

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I think I guess I'd have to look at it.

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I think I just adjusted some ranks. But Goldie easy,

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I know, like the second Yeah, That's what I'm trying

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to say, is like is he top ten? Is he

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top twelve? Is it? It's easy fifteen? But you got

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to consider I guess pinning your league is like CAGs

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qualify at first. That makes a little bit weird. But

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I don't know, dude, Like Goldie might be better than

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Devors at this point, and that's weird to say for.

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Speaker 3: The rest I mean it, it's just he's gonna have

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to maintain not this level, but he's gonna have to

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maintain being great for over a month and also, you know,

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stave off some of these guys coming back off the eel.

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That was my reasoning when I picked Christian Walker over

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him last week, obviously after the week that he's had.

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It's just insane. Two homers off the best pitcher in

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the game is crazy. So a lot of fun watching

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Goldie right now. One of my favorite parts of twenty

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twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on no, Like, do you like watching jazz

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rock another defmer diamondback?

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Speaker 3: Look, I'll I'll rant about Rafael Devers being a terrible

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teammate and all that stuff. Uh, and not wanting to

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be pintrun for and all that, I do not care.

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But because the funniest thing was booney. The next day

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when Joshchislm hit like h he drove in six or

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whatever he did and hit a bomb, he was like, yeah,

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he can have all the lollipops he wants. We don't care.

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Speaker 2: Well, so he coaxed it up as like a safety thing,

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and it's just like like, let's pick our.

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Speaker 3: Fight, Like I do. We have bubble gum out there,

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don't guys have mouthfuls of tobacco. What do we care

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about it?

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Speaker 2: They're all zend up and stuff like, I'm just I

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can't with it. I just put a sarcastic tweet out, shocker.

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I don't know if you saw this MLB put out.

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What I think is I it's.

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Speaker 3: The things you're allowed to have in your mouth while

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you play.

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Speaker 2: No, it's the first bit of like, don't propaganda this.

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To me, it was the biggest issue baseball fans want solved,

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the strengthen the game. And then they made a list

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and it was like free agency, qualifying offers, increasing minimum salary,

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And I wrote up one that was very directly about

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the MLB blackouts and then I deleted it and I

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was like, you know what, You're right. Everyone that'll listen

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to I totally talk about the number one issue is

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qualifying offers or ruining baseball. And I also can't get

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over how we don't have the Cornerstone player advantage program,

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which they put at the bottom of this, and I'm like,

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please keep blacking out every game possible. The propaganda stuff

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beyond that, it goes to my bigger issue. They say

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these are all the issues of fans. Now, these are

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the issues with owners that are not getting the proper

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amount of profit that they want. You know what the

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biggest issues the fans are is accessibility and also the

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game being fun. Like I mean, maybe not everybody cares

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about this, but you know what, let guys batflip more.

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Let me have cool crazy cleats, Let's have some pimped

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out bats, Let's have some cool gloves. They want to

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have an f and lollipop, like I don't care, Like,

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make the game fun. Separate yourself from the other sports

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a little bit more by being, oh, you know what,

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Baseball's the fun game. Football is the one that everyone consumes.

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Basketball is the one that you don't care about the

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regular season until the playoffs. Let baseball be the super

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fun one where guys are celebrating and guys are they

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have unique looks on themselves with gloves and stuff like

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make baseball better in that respect, I don't need to

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be told about qualifying offer. That is not what me

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as a fan, so I got for. I don't usually

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get worked up any of that, but I saw that

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and I was like, listen, the proposed elimination of deferred

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compensation is something I don't care about. You millionaires and

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billionaires can go can go sid it because I don't

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want to hear anything about that. Actually talk about the

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stuff that we care about, and that is that you

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copyright strike anybody that plays two seconds of a baseball video,

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that you black out every game game that you want

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to make sure the game isn't fun.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it's relaxed. Yeah, look, there are about

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a million steps between a lollipop being on the field

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and the Savannah bananas, you know what I mean, Like,

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we're not going to start counting.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to burn our bats.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, back flips when when we're on routine fly balls,

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it's still the major leagues. Right, Yeah, so I understand

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respect the game and all that stuff, but also the

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game is fun. That's why kids play it, right, that's

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what they call it kids game is because it's supposed

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to be fun. Bat flips are fun, that stuff is fun,

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dancing and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you want to know it was fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that Savannah bananas are fine for you know,

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you go and you watch and it's a fun environment

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and all that, but I don't know that I would

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want to watch that every day. In a real dude petition.

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Speaker 2: I saw I don't know who it was with some

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radio person. It might have been Craig Carton or somebody.

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It was somebody very like not in touch with this.

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And their take was if Baseball black has a black out,

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you know, and it's like suspended or whatever. He's like,

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the Savannah bananas are going to become huge. No, they're

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not dead. No, people are not any more huge than

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they already. It's not either going to be what they are.

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It's it's it's you know what's fun though. Did you

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see Kendall George got hurt when he jumped over the

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dog like a month ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was back yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They were playing Diamondbacks, and you know what the dougout

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was doing. They were barking. They were barking the whole

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time is up. That's hilarious and that's fun. That's the

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type of stuff I need. I guess I don't have

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that type of respect for the game. I just I

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just think in this day and age like it be

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a separator. Let's get more people playing baseball. Let's be

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let's get more people watching so we don't have to

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have these labor arguments. Let's make the game fun and

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accessible as possible, not trying to shove this down our

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throats about your minimum salaries and your this and that

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and the profit margins of baseball. Like I I care

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less more than I've ever cared about that type of

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stuff because it is the truest billionaires fighting with millionaires

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while we're you know, sitting here struggling to I.

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Speaker 3: Can't watch the Rangers game because it didn't drive to

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Dallas to get do.

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to get to work this

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week with the gas, I gotta pay or pay paramount

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plus so I can watch the two games that they're

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gonna put on this service and then I also make

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sure I have to have the package. But you know what,

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I don't also have the package. I got to make

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sure I buy the team package for ninety nine dollars

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for the hole so I can watch. And it's just

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like get the get out of here, all right, soapbox stuff. Sorry,

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just like all that stuff was going on all right?

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Oh in funner news, did you see the turk scobl

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hit himself in the nuts when he was pitching and

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then like get over it? And they asked him after

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the game, could I've never seen a player you see

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them like kind of adjust themselves. He just turned around

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and he was like alright, alright, and then he said

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what you thought happened is what happened. He hit himself

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while pitching in the balls, and then it took him

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a little bit to catch his breath. Yeah. I mean,

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if you've ever been hitting the nuts, it sucked.

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Speaker 3: To literally take your breath away. You remember, we're playing

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softball and I was crouched down and my buddy went

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after a low one and you were this is what

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I remember is our buddy Joe was standing on third

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and he said he could see the ball stick in

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my groin and spin before I even got to it.

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Uh so yeah, yeah, it sucks, it'll take the wind

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right out of you. But I got hit.

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Speaker 2: I've never talked to myself and that was like that

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was oh yeah, it was. It was bad.

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Speaker 3: It was really How do you have kids? Is my question?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they don't have issues either. It's amazing.

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But Terrek'scooball Yeah, exactly, Derek Scuball in the in the nuts. Uh,

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no one is hotter in baseball than Jack Cagle owns

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six homers in six games, Absolutely ridiculous. I think that

472
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,440
kind of killed today though, as they almost got no hit.

473
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,400
Up to fourteen homers two sixty eight average. It's all

474
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,880
coming together. It's all happening, almost famous for sure. Who

475
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:03,039
would you rather rest of season? Jack kagleone or Vladimir

476
00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:03,799
Guerrero Junior?

477
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: Oh? Ummm is vlat Vlad is doing everything? But Homer

478
00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:14,279
still right.

479
00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: It's kind of a tati tatish routine a little bit.

480
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, he's still hitting two seventy seven.

481
00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: That is like ninero point nine point zero nine more

482
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,400
than Kagliana is hitting.

483
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: M hm, how many runs? How many runs does Caags have?

484
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:33,599
You have his numbers in front of you.

485
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: I can do that. Thirty nine. I think it's five

486
00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:41,599
four Yeah, RBI thirty two, thirty for CAGs six tole

487
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:49,079
bases three and four homers, fourteen homers? How many doubles? Uh,

488
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,079
twelve twelve also for CAGs.

489
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:58,279
Speaker 3: Uh give me CAGs right now. God, I probably won't

490
00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:00,599
believe that in a month, but I'll say right now,

491
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,279
is I mean no homers? Where is the power gone?

492
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,240
And is this going to be all year? Is this

493
00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:08,640
real life? I'm David after Dennis? Is is this real life?

494
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,839
Is this going to keep happening? He's gonna hit? Like so,

495
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,680
Vlad has four, and what do you think he's projected

496
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680
to hit for the rest of the year To add

497
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,119
on to this.

498
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,039
Speaker 2: Four probably like six, it's.

499
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: More than it's like thirteen, but that gives him this

500
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:29,359
seventeen or thirteen fourteen more like Steamer right now has

501
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,279
that's the most.

502
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: So he's gonna hit twenty oopsie.

503
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,839
Speaker 3: At fifteen is the most he's projected to hit for

504
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,480
the rest of the year. And so add on that four,

505
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:42,359
that's nineteen. He doesn't get to twenty in any projection.

506
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: That's not their total. That that's the addition.

507
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,279
Speaker 3: No, it's eighty games left, so he'd play one hundred

508
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,720
and fifty six games you just add so, so that

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,839
would be nineteen homers though, and that's Tags has seventeen

510
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,359
right now.

511
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: No, he's fourteen fourteen right now.

512
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they predict him for the rest

513
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,480
of the season. What Caags already has. So I don't

514
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,440
know what is uh are you looking at fangrafts? Do

515
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,319
you know? Okay, so let me let me go to CAGs.

516
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is like, if you believe

517
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,240
CAGs can maintain a two sixty ish average, He's got

518
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,640
some bad swinging with stuff, but his XBA is higher

519
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,119
at two eighty four. If you believe that continues, it's

520
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,039
hard to say he's not. I mean, the worst case

521
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,119
the thing that people are crying about with CAGs was

522
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,720
kind of like what Vlad is. They're like, well, he's

523
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,119
in foreverage, but he's not hitting any homers and no RBIs,

524
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,079
Well guess what that's Vladimir Gerer Junr. The upside is there.

525
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,880
We just know vlad can be a three hundred plus

526
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,599
hitter and maybe the ball starts flying, but it hasn't been.

527
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Tags is also young. Like, the answer

528
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,279
is probably they're going to be fairly the same through

529
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,599
us way through because I'm looking at the rest of

530
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,279
tags projections is also it's pretty much the same. You know,

531
00:24:54,799 --> 00:25:00,400
it's fourteen homers and all that, so between four teen

532
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,880
and twelve so or fourteen and eleven so right around

533
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,359
the same. But he's already got fourteen so yeah. I mean,

534
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,359
like I said, at the end of the day, they're

535
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,640
probably Spider Man being pointing at each other when we

536
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,079
get to the finish line from this point forward. But

537
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,559
the numbers are way better for Tags right now. So

538
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:20,079
let's go with caags.

539
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: Interesting, wouldn't be curious where you guys are at? And

540
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:24,200
then Tatis he his third homer of the season.

541
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,519
Speaker 3: Let's go three bombs, tatis woo.

542
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:31,039
Speaker 2: How gonna over under? Does it get to ten? Does

543
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,039
it get to double Digi's.

544
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: I want to chicken this. We haven't chicken in a while. Yeah,

545
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:38,319
so let's chicken that.

546
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: I can get my number.

547
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,799
Speaker 3: Okay, and I'll tell you all right, I got my number.

548
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:48,519
His projection is anywhere between eleven on Zips and fifteen

549
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,319
on Oopsie as well for the rest of the year.

550
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,039
More to add on to his three. So, so do.

551
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,799
Speaker 2: You want to to lead off or you want to

552
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,599
go ahead and lead off? All right, he's at three,

553
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,839
I'm gonna say six.

554
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: I'll go to ten.

555
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Eleven.

556
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: You thought about that for a long time. Uh, I'll

557
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:22,240
say ten with thirteen fourteen, God, uh, fifteen, I'm.

558
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: Gonna sell it.

559
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm just selling it. Fifteen twelve more homers for the

560
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,200
rest of the year.

561
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he's got three. He can't get the

562
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:30,720
fall in the air like I think he can have

563
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:34,160
a surge. I just don't know if that's sir. I mean,

564
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720
to be fair, he's the type of guy that could

565
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,720
hit ten homers in a season for sure.

566
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,759
Speaker 3: I just team mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

567
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, in a month. I just don't know

568
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,359
if that's gonna happen to that degree. So it might

569
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,640
be selling a little bit short. Like thirteen fourteen that

570
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,839
seemed like the range, But I'm gonna sell that at fifteen.

571
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,279
I just don't think he can get there.

572
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Yikes, wow, okay, you I mean he's not on pace

573
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,039
for fifteen, so I completely understand.

574
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh my n uh. News around the baseball

575
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:09,240
is Bobby Witt has not played in five straight games now,

576
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,920
but said he is available off the bench yesterday, so

577
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,480
that's uh.

578
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: Now today they're saying that he's expected to be.

579
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,599
Speaker 2: Back Friday, but he wasn't in the game today.

580
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,799
Speaker 3: Uh you know what, I didn't even look. I just

581
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,359
tuned in when they said, uh, that was close to

582
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,880
a no hitter.

583
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's look here, I imagine.

584
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: But he must not have played today since they said

585
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960
he he said he's likely back tomorrow.

586
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: He did not. Yeah, yeah, he did not play, So

587
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:38,319
there's nothing there. Uh so hopefully, but that's good news.

588
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000
He's gonna be back. Also back it's Francisco Lindor. He

589
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,200
was activated. Uh but once Sota then left and didn't

590
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,880
play in the double and I believe Wansda went to

591
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,519
the iel. Actually, and I said this on leading off

592
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,400
a really funny troll account, was like the relationship has

593
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
gotten so bad they refuse to stay on the IL

594
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,559
together and they're switching off IL stints and it's really bad.

595
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,799
But Lindor was reactivating. Also, Ellie de la Cruz is back,

596
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,920
so that's a big positive. Kyle Tucker hasn't played since Monday,

597
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,039
not a big positive. Any thoughts Lindor Cruz Tucker or

598
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:08,480
any of that.

599
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I would like to see Lindor get back

600
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,519
real quick and normal. Kyle Tucker I think needs to

601
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:19,920
go on the IL. I think this. I think we

602
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,119
kind of talked about that in the last episode, where

603
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,359
it looks like this has been an injury that's probably

604
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,480
been bothering him for a big chunk of the year.

605
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Also a lot of pressure when you're making that much

606
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640
money and you sign a big deal and everybody hates

607
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,680
you because of it. So could be a little bit

608
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,559
of that in there. But and then Ellie, Ellie seems

609
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,559
like he might be a freaking nature dude to come

610
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:44,559
back from a hamstring strain that fast, and then for

611
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,599
all of his markers to be moved up, like his

612
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,160
MRI and all that stuff. That was just really nice

613
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,279
to see about Ellie.

614
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,759
Speaker 2: Not nice to see Roman Anthony has not made any

615
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:58,000
substantive progress. That is the quote during the Red Sox

616
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,960
road trip he is now we were doing a kind

617
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,200
of a guessing game. Can you guess? Do you know

618
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,920
when last time.

619
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: He played Roman Anthony? Yeah, wasn't it like right at

620
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,799
the beginning of.

621
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,839
Speaker 2: April May fourth? Maye Okay, with you, he has not

622
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,079
played in almost two months and there is no progress

623
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,400
being happened. You got to write it at this point,

624
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:23,319
he gotta be done, and.

625
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: Right off that, I mean, I think like if he's

626
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,880
not back after the All Star break, I think at

627
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,279
that point, then you're like, well, he's just done. I

628
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,079
mean it was not good before he went on the

629
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,240
IL anyway, He's hitting two twenty nine. I only had

630
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:39,519
one homer and two solen bases in thirty games. Like,

631
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,119
none of the numbers look good anyway, but you would

632
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920
like after the You've missed three months after the All

633
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,000
Star Game, right all of May, June, half of July,

634
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
six weeks at least eight weeks at least, so you

635
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,640
need to be I think he's back after the All

636
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Star break or he's probably not back.

637
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of in the same. I also don't

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,079
know if I care. I don't know if I care

639
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,279
to hold around anymore. Like if you said no substantive progress,

640
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,319
like he's still got to start a hitting program, then

641
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:11,640
he's going to start a rehab program. I assume maybe

642
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,480
I'm over playing.

643
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,039
Speaker 3: Try to ramp those up a couple times and been

644
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:16,000
shut down each time.

645
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: I have to assume that is close to a month

646
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,680
process of ramping up some live sessions, getting games. Maybe

647
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,039
it's a little bit less, but if you're almost in July,

648
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,359
that's I mean, you might be looking to September. I

649
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,599
just don't I don't have any good feelings about it.

650
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,599
Speaker 3: And it's just a lost year for the Red Sox too.

651
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: Exactly no reason. I mean, I think you want, like

652
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,759
there's no reason to push him. I don't think they

653
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:39,519
have to shut it down for the season. They just

654
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,960
like let it go as light as possible.

655
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,599
Speaker 3: And then, uh, and what what is it to like

656
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:51,319
because the MRI is showing no damage, so what is it?

657
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,279
Is it still something going on with his finger?

658
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: I guess I have no idea.

659
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Really weird because like we saw Trade, didn't Trade Turner

660
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,759
play with a broken finger and he just kept the

661
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:05,720
finger off of the bat for like two months. It's

662
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:06,480
kind of crazy.

663
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is crazy. Also, Cole Reagan's likely done for

664
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,599
the year. He's gonna undergo surgery for an elbow impingement.

665
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,640
I think they said, like, you know, there's a possibility

666
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,039
he could come back. Just write it off. I'm at

667
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:19,839
that point, like you hate to write off super super

668
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,039
talented players, but I don't have anything left to hold

669
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:25,720
on to Anthony or Reagan's at this point. So if

670
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,200
you're in any type of pinch, I just.

671
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,119
Speaker 3: What what about like moving forward? Because I know, like

672
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,079
Roman Anthony, it's a finger injury. So wrist injury, you

673
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,200
come back next year, you look good and spring you're fine? Right, Yeah, sure,

674
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,599
Cole Reagan's now has to be injury prone label correct,

675
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,559
Like yeah, I think so.

676
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: We were kind of we did a little bit of

677
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200
this on leading off of like where does he go?

678
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,440
I kind of think he's in the like later twenties,

679
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:49,920
he's going to be in. I just don't think he

680
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,440
can go that much further down, especially if like it

681
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,440
takes a year to recover. You get some positive words,

682
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,160
you know, he's good, looks like he'd be good for

683
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,839
spring training and all that. Like I think people will

684
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,559
just kind of let it go and then it's like

685
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,160
he's closer like the Michael King range, you know, or

686
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,480
I don't know where, Like I know obviously like Parker

687
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,759
Mesic and Jurrassemus and are having really great seasons, but

688
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,599
like where will they end up being? They might be

689
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960
pushed back a little bit like as the season goes on,

690
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,599
like I think he'll be in that range instead of

691
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,279
being this guy who's like a top ten or top fifteen.

692
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: Or yeah, that's done. Yeah, that's the way done.

693
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,079
Speaker 2: Michael Garcia placed on the IEL with a muscle strain

694
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,400
in his hands at Geloff, also stepped on by Matt Chapman,

695
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,839
which is pretty both on the IEL. Some interesting performances

696
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,759
and some other just things that are floating out there.

697
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,519
Hunter Green four innings, three strikeouts, and a triple A

698
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:37,960
start topped out at ninety five. He went over sixty

699
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,319
four pitches, folks. That's probably one more triple A start

700
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:44,039
where they push him to seventy or so. Maybe they

701
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:46,160
do two because of the time missed, but I think

702
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400
they can go to seventy to seventy five and then

703
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,880
I think he's in the majors and then you can.

704
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,039
Speaker 3: Put ninety nine and a halfn through sixty four pitches.

705
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:53,960
I'm putting him in for his next start.

706
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: I am too, but I just assuming that they might

707
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,480
do one more. Connor Griffin rehabs start two for two,

708
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,559
had a homer, three RBIs seven innings. That was on Wednesday.

709
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,480
I mean just cuts get them to the Major's.

710
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,079
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm not very old man about a lot of things,

711
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:12,400
but Mark Grace definitely has me on that, why are

712
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,640
we wasting our cuts?

713
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with it. Tay Oscar won for three

714
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,799
with a homer at Triple A Oklahoma. Corey Seger should

715
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,839
be activated soon. He took VP didn't hasn't cleared proto yet,

716
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:26,400
but I guess that's like a pseudo good sign. David Peterson.

717
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920
There's a weird trade by the way, as Edward Cabrera

718
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,680
had a hamstring injury was carted off if they said

719
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,359
it's a like a mid hamstring strain, which is not good,

720
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,519
and Ben Brown is placed on the IL. The team

721
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,960
went and acquired David Peterson, and they traded a do

722
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,119
some prospect in Cole Matthews as well. I'm assuming David

723
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Peterson's gonna get kind of thrown into the mix. They

724
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920
did get Matthew Boyd back and Javier Asad has actually

725
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680
been sneaky good one nine ERA over the last month,

726
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,160
So those are I would rather go with a SOD

727
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,599
than David Peterson, I think at this point absolutely yeah.

728
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,039
Speaker 3: David Peterson has been two up and down, but I

729
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,160
mean gets what he wants. He gets a starting spot here,

730
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,319
so that's nice.

731
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,839
Speaker 2: Yees Ury Perez was activated four and two thirds, one strikeout,

732
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,280
no walks against Texas. Kind of a weird start. We'll

733
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
have to monitor what that ends up looking like long term.

734
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,559
Shane Bieber, we had that conversation and the start happened.

735
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,719
He gave up four and runs and three and two thirds,

736
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,079
give up nine hits.

737
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,599
Speaker 3: I think he was give up three homers in a row.

738
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,119
It's only the eighth time the Ashes have ever done

739
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,760
it in franchise history. So I was watching that game,

740
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,760
I'm like, damn, Bieber's cruising. Maybe we were wrong about

741
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,159
starting him on this first start here. And then bang

742
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,960
bang bang in the third inning, all three homers in

743
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,360
a row.

744
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: So Mitch Bratt was called up by the Diamondbacks. He

745
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,159
went three innings, three strikeouts, a couple walks in there.

746
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,519
Really low pitch count is what they kind of threw

747
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:48,320
at him. He'd also come off of the injury. I

748
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
think he's going to be a long term option. Stuff

749
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,079
is interesting. It's not overpowering stuff. It's kind of weak

750
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,920
contact thing. It reminds me of like I said this

751
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960
is Merril Kelly Kelly type of picture. I think he's

752
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,800
going to be an option for a decent amount of

753
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,960
the year. Diamondbacks are kind of rough in general deeper leagues.

754
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,800
He's probably someone to take a look at. But he's

755
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,079
gonna have to build up, obviously the pitch count where

756
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,440
they're trusting it. And I think it's gonna be tough

757
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,960
for him to get to the fifth inning in the

758
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,840
next one. But if you want, yeah, you can do that.

759
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,519
Speaker 3: They said, or fifteen fifty pitches in this game was

760
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,760
kind of his limit. I think he threw fifty four

761
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,159
he ended up with, so it's probably gonna climb up

762
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,960
to sixty five. But just with all these pitchers getting

763
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,960
hurt for the d Backs and being not good for

764
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,440
the d Backs, that you got to find somebody somewhere.

765
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,559
So I think you're right. I think they're gonna They're

766
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:40,119
gonna work him longer and longer, and he'll eventually have

767
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:41,199
a spot in that rotation.

768
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: I think the Mets are moving Koda sang It to

769
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,800
the bullpen after he got blasted. Jiggled a little bit

770
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,480
against the Cubs three and two thirds seven and in runs,

771
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,280
and do you.

772
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,199
Speaker 3: See they asked him, like, what would you do if

773
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,119
they asked you to take a you know, a minor

774
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,280
league assignment, and he would say, I would remind them

775
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,960
that I signed him.

776
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: As I was saying that through an interpreter, Yeah, I

777
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,280
think so.

778
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,119
Speaker 3: I mean, I just saw the quote, so I didn't

779
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,679
see that's actual interview.

780
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: That's always interesting because like Murkami had minor league options.

781
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,599
I believe too when he signed, Like, you can do

782
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,679
those things. But I mean seinga you know, I'm along

783
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,360
on this team anymore, Like I think they need to

784
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,039
be done with him, but they're just there're you know,

785
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:21,559
a lot of injuries and I don't.

786
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what are the Mets playing for the

787
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,079
saddest thing ever was seeing the dans By Swanson Homer

788
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,400
and then then panting to the all of those Norwegians

789
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,800
doing a line Dance's hilarious. Actually, it was pretty funny

790
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,039
if you're not a Mets fan.

791
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,599
Speaker 2: Pretty freaking funny. And then a couple activations I mentioned

792
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,800
Matthew Boyd is activated today. Also Randy rose Arena is back.

793
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480
So that's kind of your world around baseball here. So

794
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,320
that is going to set the news. Let's take a break.

795
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,920
When we come back, we're going to talk about pictures

796
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,880
who're trending up and down, and we'll do it on

797
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,199
end this league right after this.

798
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: What is this?

799
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: It's in this league? What how can we be expected

800
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,400
to teach Scott Bogwin and' Chris Well to learn how

801
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400
to read if they can't even fit inside the building?

802
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: In this league has to be at least three times

803
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,079
bigger than this Chris.

804
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Starting pitcher trends. We've got some guys that are trending up.

805
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,840
Taking ERA is kind of a semi helpful marker, but

806
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,559
it's not in all cases is just era. And then

807
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:24,079
we've got some certain statistical markers that are kind of

808
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,920
trending in positive directions, and we can determine on some

809
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,639
of these guys as well. On the ups, are all

810
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,599
of these you know, positive trends something that can correlate

811
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:35,719
long you know, like a long part of the season.

812
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,159
And then on the inverse, we've got some guys that

813
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:41,400
are trending down, some trends where we can decide how

814
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,960
worrisome are some of these. Sometimes I think there's one.

815
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,599
Sometimes there's a multitude of different things. So we'll be

816
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,599
talking about some of these pictures. You guys, let us know.

817
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,559
Bagman's starting in the trends up. One of the guys

818
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,760
that has been phenomenal this season. When we talk about

819
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,840
huge names, I think it's kind of tough to be like,

820
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,760
you know, but maybe it's a tier change. Drew Rasmussen

821
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,400
has been absolutely phenomenal this year. Started out with the

822
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,719
two six four ERA four to one three in May

823
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,280
and then has a one ERA in June. The biggest

824
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,079
up everything is like clearly you know better, Like there's

825
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,400
no doubt any better. Yes, yeah, he's given up less

826
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,239
homers per nine innings every single month.

827
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: You know, lowest walk rate of any month this yeah,

828
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,360
this month as well.

829
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,639
Speaker 2: But the two things that really stand out here are

830
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:33,079
his strikeout his K per nine has gone up to

831
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,679
eleven K per nine it was seven last month and

832
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,159
nine the month before. And his home run a fly

833
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,679
ball ratio of five percent. There's another correlative stat that

834
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,039
I think sometimes is kind of the luck factor eighty

835
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,920
nine percent almost ninety percent left on base percentage. Before

836
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239
that it was sitting around the seventies. So what I'm

837
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,480
getting at here is you've got two months of stuff

838
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,320
where the home run rates higher left on base percentage

839
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,599
is at least ten percent lower, if not more, are

840
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:07,039
those Is this new run sustainable? And then the caves

841
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,400
have really gone up, So it's just kind of a look.

842
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,480
He is obviously clearly trending up to what level? Are

843
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:14,840
you buying Drew rasp music. I think the case here

844
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,599
too is has he truly broken the plane of being like,

845
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,800
you know, a cool outside of the thirty sp Like,

846
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,920
do you think he belongs inside the top twenty fifteen conversation?

847
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Not just his production from this year, but the sustainability?

848
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I kind of feel like he does.

849
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,760
I'm apprehensive about putting new people up into that group

850
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,039
because Soriano was so good for like eight straight starts

851
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,719
and has sunk back. We'll talk about him in the

852
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,880
next group here, but I feel like ras Musen has

853
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,800
always kind of been on the cusp of being a

854
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
much better pitcher, and it seems like that is starting

855
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,840
to come to fruition now. You know, the left on

856
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360
base percentage is way higher this month as well. Do

857
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,599
I know that he's going to keep this eleven K nine,

858
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,079
you know, for the rest of the season. No, obviously,

859
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:06,920
I don't. His career what's his career Kate per nine

860
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:11,199
eight point five, So it is okay, yeah, he did

861
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,159
have in twenty twenty four, he had a ten point

862
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,079
nine to nine K per nine, but he only started

863
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:19,360
four games.

864
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: It's I don't really look at Kate per nine, but

865
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,400
I'm more of a cap percine.

866
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at that because that's improved so much

867
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,119
this you know, at this point, the home run to

868
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:30,679
fly ball ratio is the most important thing. Knocking that

869
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,519
down to five point three percent this month after being

870
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:39,719
twelve percent and up in April and May is outstanding.

871
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,440
So sustained, I want to say, sustained upper tiers, sustained

872
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,960
top twenty. I I don't know. I feel queasy about

873
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,599
putt him in there.

874
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,519
Speaker 2: I think in a better and So what I meant

875
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,920
when I said the like cap like Joe likes to

876
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,119
talk about Kate per nine, I don't, I think a

877
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:58,679
better representation. Even though they're the same, they're they're telling

878
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:03,239
a similar story. Thirty five percent K percentage in June,

879
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719
that's more the thing to focus like, so eleven k

880
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440
P nine it's a lot thirty five K percentage with

881
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,159
a three percent walk rate. That is a thirty two

882
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,239
point three percent K minus walk percentage, So not only

883
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,039
were the strikeouts greater, the walk rate went to the

884
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,199
lowest level, and on top of it, he had this

885
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,440
really high strand rate. So you know, like I look

886
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,000
at him, and I look at at a lot of

887
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,039
like what this this particular month is and how it's

888
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:33,119
kind of like wrung up, and I think this is

889
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:36,760
like an ever evolving, ever approving, improving picture that like, yeah,

890
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,599
I kind of buy some long term sustainability. Twenty seven

891
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:42,480
percent with a sub five percent walk rate and Eira's

892
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:46,039
great low contact and then you're having some things like

893
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,719
mentioned here that are working in favor the home runs

894
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,719
coming down. I agree with you. I think that's absolutely huge.

895
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,639
That works well with low walk rates and left on

896
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,119
base percentage is probably it's going to be higher when

897
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,760
you're just more efficient. Ninety percent is a little bit

898
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,840
over inflated, but that doesn't mean anything's going to fall apart.

899
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,960
So really positive trends in his direction. A much lower

900
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,239
named pitcher, but it's hard to argue some of the

901
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,719
big changes we've had is Foster Griffin two six seven

902
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,280
ERA to start the year four eight six last month

903
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,599
one four eight this month in June, so again you

904
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880
kind of there's kind of a trend. Actually, if you

905
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,840
stare at a majority of these pictures, it's like that

906
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840
middle month there's a bump, and seeing them come back

907
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,719
and bounce back is huge. Foster Griffin one four eight

908
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,039
in June, so that's great, best expected era two point

909
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,639
eight in April when he had a two six seven

910
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,280
RA was four to seven three expected. His caves have

911
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,599
kind of maintained, but his walk rate has become minuscule.

912
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,239
You have it as a point seven k per nine.

913
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,639
I'm gonna guess if Drew Rasmus was three point one

914
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,159
or whatever, this is going to be like a two

915
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:56,280
percent walk rate. Batting out bab Begins has been lower,

916
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,320
home run to fly balls lower than the month before.

917
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,639
He does have a dramatically increased one hundred percent left

918
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:05,840
on base percentage, but these are also paired to the

919
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
ground ball rate that's gone up. So I talked like

920
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,480
last week or so about Foster Griffin in that, like,

921
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,880
you know, the work that he's done in upon adding

922
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360
all of these pitches is really crazy pitch mix. Even

923
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,599
though he might not be this big strikeout guy, things

924
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,880
are really going in a in a positive direction. Do

925
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,199
you think based off of what you're seeing, things will

926
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:26,000
continue going in a positive direction?

927
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:26,199
Speaker 3: Though?

928
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,119
Speaker 2: Is this truly trending up and up?

929
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been so good for so long. I

930
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,719
will say this that, like, looking at his Savant page

931
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,480
is fairly unimpressive. His XCRA is right at fifty percent.

932
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,800
His XBA is below fifty.

933
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,079
Speaker 2: Percent you're talking about Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, it's a

934
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,519
four it's a four point zero five expected era. So

935
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:53,840
it's a full right higher than in.

936
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,599
Speaker 3: A two forty three XBA, which isn't great, but it's

937
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,800
still uh not you know, it's it's slightly below average.

938
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,440
Chase rate is good, with rate is right around even

939
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:07,880
the walk rate is really good. He's keeping guys off base.

940
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,960
So I think like his sustainability will probably be tied

941
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:16,039
to that walk percentage, you know, just looking I think

942
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:20,960
he had another good start in there. Yeah, his what's

943
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:24,079
his era on that sheet? Because for June, because it's

944
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:25,000
one four eight.

945
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: No, it is one four eight in June.

946
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:33,119
Speaker 3: He also was Okay, I thought he added another start yesterday, but.

947
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: But he has three straight quality starts. He has had

948
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,920
every single start who walks this month. Yeah, and every

949
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,360
single start is he's only given up one earned run,

950
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,159
So four total runs this month, two total walks three

951
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,440
of the four games, or five or more strikeouts, and

952
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,280
he has gone six and three of the four starts.

953
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,559
I mean he is. I mean, you say it's unimpressive.

954
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:54,480
What was?

955
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,039
Speaker 3: He's not as impressive. I don't know if it's sustainable,

956
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:58,800
is the thing?

957
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he get up like he gave up

958
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:03,280
like a one nineteen hit, but his average ex vlosity

959
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,280
is low. He does give up a lot of barreled contact,

960
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,960
which is something to you know, something to pay attention to.

961
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,920
The expected batting average, the batting average against his pitches

962
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,400
from an expected standpoint. You don't see this often, but

963
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,239
he throws seven pitches. Every single pitch has a higher

964
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,239
expected batting average than what he's doing. So you know,

965
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,760
he's obviously like performing at a higher level than where

966
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,199
it should be.

967
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,519
Speaker 3: But I mean, does that mean the fifth pitcher before

968
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,320
the season started, and he's eighteenth starting pitcher.

969
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's eighteenth, but I think he's.

970
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,440
I mean, let me ask you a couple who'd you

971
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:46,480
rathers Would you rather Emmitt Shean or Foster Griffin. I

972
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,320
think Foster right now, I think I'd rather go Foster.

973
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Would you rather Davis Martin or him?

974
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,199
Speaker 3: That's a tough one because we'll mention him on the

975
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,320
trending down. It's not as bad as we think, but

976
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,119
it's still not good. Man, Let me look at it,

977
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:08,039
let me look at Davis Martin. No, I mean I

978
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,079
do that one because I think I still want to

979
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:14,400
say Davis Martin, but I and honestly, I think it's

980
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,840
one of those things that we kind of talked about

981
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,920
at the first basement. They'll probably look the same by

982
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,800
the time we get to the end of the season. Yeah,

983
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,519
it's Foster Griffin because it's a fairly similar page for

984
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:24,239
Davis Martin.

985
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that the trending upside of this,

986
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,719
which is interesting, is like when you can take a

987
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,000
look at a three month stand and two of those

988
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,320
three months have been solid and you've bounced back. I'm

989
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,920
into that. I'm totally into that. I'm into like having

990
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,239
adversity and bouncing back off of adversity. And I mean,

991
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,679
this is the best month by far. And this is

992
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,559
not just like, oh, it's like a one off. It's like, well, no,

993
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,079
he was great. The first month he was okay, not great,

994
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:54,000
but not horrible, not caudable necessarily in the second month,

995
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,599
and then this month it's been elite. And he pairs

996
00:46:56,639 --> 00:47:00,320
that with a serviceable strikeout percentage. You know, even if

997
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
it's nine k per nine, which it essentially has been,

998
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,679
but a tiny baby walk rate, you know, he'sah.

999
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: And it's similar to what his his Japanese League numbers were,

1000
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,760
you know, five point nine, four point nine, five point nine.

1001
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,239
It was fifteen point six and twenty twenty two his

1002
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,719
last time in the majors before this year. So as

1003
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,199
you mentioned, like just going over there and readjusting, you know,

1004
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,280
I think has really helped.

1005
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: Him jumping through this. You had Jacob de Gram and

1006
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,800
Logan Gilbert Logan Gilbert want to maybe stop at its

1007
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,360
interesting because he has slowly been improving every single month.

1008
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,840
He had a four ERA to start then in May

1009
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,400
it was three two six. This month it's two point nine.

1010
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,159
We've seen improvements on his expected era FIP expected PHIP.

1011
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:47,639
His strikeouts have gone back over eleven, which is which

1012
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:50,800
is solid. The thing that's weird that's attached to him, though,

1013
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,719
is that he's got these piggyback starts that are going

1014
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,920
to come in, so like he has gotten better, so

1015
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,280
he's probably gonna be a tiny bit more efficient. But

1016
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,559
this is also just a really good test case. Like

1017
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,920
if I just saw this and I didn't have the

1018
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,480
piggyback situation, I would be like, yeah, this is another

1019
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:06,599
reason to feel comfortable that like he could get back

1020
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:09,840
to maybe being a top ten guy. But the piggybacks,

1021
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,159
I think.

1022
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,079
Speaker 3: Are weird good for his post All Star breaks? Should

1023
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,360
they stop doing this piggyback thing posts All Star Break?

1024
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:18,280
But I don't know if they're going to.

1025
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: So how about logan web though this one is like,

1026
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,599
this one's goofy because it's just like a tale of

1027
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:25,159
two months too.

1028
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,199
Speaker 3: Well, they had the injury. Yeah, I think this is

1029
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,119
just showing it's pretty safe to say his April numbers

1030
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:32,960
were from the injury.

1031
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: And look at this April four to three era may

1032
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,840
or I'm sorry, June zero point eight seven expected era

1033
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:42,559
is over two and a half run difference. His strikeouts

1034
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,880
are actually down, by the way. That actually makes me

1035
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,559
a little bit wonky on him.

1036
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 3: Because walks away down to point six he.

1037
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,159
Speaker 2: Was walking three per nine. I don't know if the

1038
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,719
percentage is on that but walking three per I guess

1039
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,920
that would be like, oh, would that be per? I

1040
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,119
don't know what ever?

1041
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:01,679
Speaker 3: Did come on?

1042
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: No calculator? Yeah, well, it just it throws me off

1043
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,280
whenever I see k per nine now because I'm like,

1044
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,079
what is the percentage of that? I want to say

1045
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,519
that would be like a twelve percent?

1046
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: Is that sound I'm finding it? Let me look.

1047
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, now I'm going to look too. It's it. Well

1048
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,159
it's five. It's five point nine on the year. So

1049
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
what was June? I have to know now I cannot

1050
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,000
move on without it. I'm looking to where is it?

1051
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: Is it not on here?

1052
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,119
Speaker 2: No? I got it?

1053
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:27,599
Speaker 1: It was.

1054
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: Well seven point five percent one point eight? Well, no,

1055
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,519
that's this month. But the I meant like, what's the

1056
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,599
garbage one? Look like the garbage three walks per nine?

1057
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,760
Seven point five doesn't seem right to me, But it's

1058
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,440
it said it was eight in April May, which was

1059
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,599
like one start and then seven point five. I felt

1060
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:48,880
like that would have been a little bit higher. But

1061
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,719
beside all of those student.

1062
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's eight innings in May, so don't even

1063
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:54,800
count that.

1064
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought the strikeout rate being up was

1065
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,960
a really important key, and it's actually worse than it

1066
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,800
was last time. So twenty one to twenty two percent

1067
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,079
with the really low walk rate is still great and stuff.

1068
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,079
But I don't feel like otherworldly. But all that matters

1069
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:14,159
is it's it's trended in like a very good direction.

1070
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,039
That's that's what you care about. Three more pitchers that

1071
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,719
I think are very interesting read debtmers. I think red debtmers.

1072
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,239
This is just more of a confirmation of I think

1073
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,400
you've been on this train with me. I've been buying

1074
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,679
trying to buy him for the last month four two

1075
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,840
eighty ra in April four to nine to eight in

1076
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,039
May two point zero eight this month, ridiculous expected era

1077
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,280
is actually this is actually the crazy thing to check

1078
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,280
this out. As he's improved, his expected era every month

1079
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000
has been three point zero one or lower, So even

1080
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:46,000
when he had those fours, the expectation was much better.

1081
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,719
His strikeouts are actually worse this month. They were twelve

1082
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,280
last k per nine it's seven and a half. But

1083
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,599
his walk rade has gone down. He's giving up absolutely

1084
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,119
no homers. Babbitt is super low against and homer in

1085
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:58,960
the fly ball was already minusculed three point seven.

1086
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: Percent only being seven and a half percent, so uh yeah,

1087
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:06,960
very good year for redept merce and it, you know,

1088
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,159
like you mentioned four, two eight, four, nine, eight down

1089
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:11,039
to two to eight without a lot of difference and

1090
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,400
expected era just means that he's finally getting the numbers

1091
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,599
that he deserves here.

1092
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and this is why I want to buy

1093
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,840
like this trend. Another one is Robbie Ray. Why Robbie

1094
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,320
Ray is interesting is the trademarket, I think, but you

1095
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,039
could also maybe argue I haven't looked at this. I'm

1096
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,400
gonna do it while we're talking about it to see

1097
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,480
what the home splits might look like, because it's a

1098
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,280
very friendly environment. But two seven era in April blown

1099
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,280
up in May at six four back down to one eight.

1100
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:41,599
That's his era. Expected era is quite a bit higher

1101
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,280
at three and a half this month, though, so it's

1102
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,039
actually his eras have his expected The rays have trended

1103
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,639
worse every single month, like dramatically than his expected so

1104
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:54,119
that's something to watch. But he's not giving up homers.

1105
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,039
His walk rate has gone down a little bit, he's

1106
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,559
leaven more guys on base and obviously right about home

1107
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,360
and away is it. Does he have dramatic home, it's bad.

1108
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: Two nine three at home, four five four on the road.

1109
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,400
UH fifteen earned runs at home over forty six innings,

1110
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,639
twenty one over forty one and two thirds on the road.

1111
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,519
Average against is the biggest crazy one one eighty six

1112
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:22,320
at home, two fifty six on the road, and the

1113
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,800
slugging three zero four at home four ninety four on

1114
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,880
the road with a whoba of two seventy three verse

1115
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,639
three fifty one. Big differences between home and road.

1116
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,119
Speaker 2: So it could be very important for where he's traded.

1117
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:35,679
If you're going to be a bit buy in on

1118
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,679
Robbie Ray. Maybe it's even more of a fade.

1119
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a it's just like a couple. Let me

1120
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,840
just look at his game, because it he had so

1121
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:47,599
at the d Backs, he gave up nine. Other than

1122
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,280
that start, though he gave up five at home against

1123
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,480
the Nationals, he hasn't given up one of the game

1124
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,360
with four every other game UH three earned runs or lower,

1125
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,320
and his last two he's given up zero. Three of

1126
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,840
his last four he's given up zero. But he does

1127
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,239
have that five turn run game against Washington wedged in there,

1128
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,519
but Washington scored more runs than anybody so.

1129
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean than you decide, you guys decide if that's

1130
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,360
a trend up that you buy into.

1131
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,639
Speaker 3: I'm buying this trend because honestly, it's really the one

1132
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,639
terrible start at Arizona. You take that those four innings away,

1133
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,239
that's uh yeah, nine earnings so off of his road

1134
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,400
total song. Yeah, I'm actually fine with Robby Ray.

1135
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: This is the one I think is pretty interesting. It's

1136
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,320
Tanner Biby. Tanner Biby. On the year has now got

1137
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,960
like a relatively respectable like three seven e ra. He's

1138
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,199
expected is about almost a full run higher, though walk's

1139
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,440
been a little bit higher. Bail Ray against has been higher,

1140
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,119
but he has been improving. Four point zero eight in April,

1141
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,559
five point zero eight in May got worse worse, and

1142
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:55,760
then this month two point two one. But the expected

1143
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,880
is over four still, so there might be a little

1144
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,800
mirage happening. His strikeouts got better than month over month.

1145
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,239
His walks got a little bit worse, though, but the

1146
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,039
babbit was super low, so there might have been a

1147
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:08,920
little bit too much luck, a little too much luck

1148
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,519
going in his favor that he would have been running

1149
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:14,960
a three fourteen and two fifty. Babbitt against one to

1150
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,360
eight this past month. So maybe the thing that makes

1151
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,559
it so interesting is he's becoming serviceable, but he's kind

1152
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,400
of low strikeouts. Maybe this month is more of a

1153
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,239
mirage and maybe tannor Biby, even though the trends up,

1154
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,280
I would kind of look at this as maybe a cell.

1155
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,119
To be honest with.

1156
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:35,519
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, I'll say this. It's again two big blow ups.

1157
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,719
I mean, not a lot of games where he's given

1158
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,239
up more than three orned runs. It's give up four

1159
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:45,360
at the Royals over only four innings, so that's not great.

1160
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,800
But he gave up eight on April twelfth at Atlanta,

1161
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,559
and then he gave up seven on May twenty fifth

1162
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,360
against Washington. Again, Washington is killing everybody. But since that

1163
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:02,159
Washington start at the end of May, he has not

1164
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,039
given up more than three ernies in any single game

1165
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:09,079
over the next five start. So it's been pretty good

1166
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,360
for Tanner Bibe recently. So I don't know, I feel

1167
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,280
I'm feeling a little more positive than I thought I

1168
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,360
would on tenor bybe.

1169
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,679
Speaker 2: On the trend downs, there's a lot. We are not

1170
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,519
going to talk about all of them because there's way

1171
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:25,119
too many. But let's let's run through some Brian Wu.

1172
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:27,599
We thought things were getting better. He had a three

1173
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,880
eight to sixty RA in April three zero three in

1174
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,920
May that was good five eight nine. This past month,

1175
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,079
the expected DRA was four and a half. His strikeouts

1176
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,199
went down, not dramatically, and his walks went down. To

1177
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,159
be honest with you, he might have got babbit to

1178
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:44,000
death a little bit, but home runs were a huge

1179
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,599
issue fourteen point three. So here's the deal. You could

1180
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,280
look at this and actually say there's a case with

1181
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480
his fastball, Vila was going up his ground balls, maintaining

1182
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:58,239
an unsustainable fifty six percent left on base rate that

1183
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,639
the homers were up, and the babbitt was maybe got

1184
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,519
babbit to death because it's almost a ten k p

1185
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:07,440
nine one walk per nine. Guy that got hit up

1186
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,880
a little too hard. He's I think too talented. Even

1187
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,559
though he is trending down, that might this might be

1188
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:15,639
something where I want to try to play the bye,

1189
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:18,000
but he is coming off of a really bad start.

1190
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,679
I just think, to me, this looks like he's getting

1191
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,360
I mean, and this is a trend with almost every

1192
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,920
guy who's on the trend downs. They're getting babbit to death.

1193
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,119
And when it doesn't translate to what they're normally putting up.

1194
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,440
I kind of think he can get back through with this.

1195
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,320
What's say you about Brian Wudo on this bad trend.

1196
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's been not great, you know, he

1197
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,199
but he's had great mixes in there against Baltimore seven innings,

1198
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,360
three hits, no runs, one walk, nine strikeouts. Next start

1199
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,920
five at Pittsburgh, four strikeouts. Couldn't make it through four

1200
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,039
five innings and seven earned at Baltimore. How do you

1201
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,719
get crushed by Baltimore and then blank Baltimore five The

1202
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,039
game before that at Detroit. Before that, he had a

1203
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,119
nice run from May sixth to the end of May

1204
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,280
was actually pretty good. He started out real bad. So

1205
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,159
this has like peaked and valied for Brian Wu. I

1206
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:14,400
want to ask you this, Brian Wu or Drew Rasmussen

1207
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,360
for the rest of the season.

1208
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: Hmm. I I think I'm gonna say Rasmussen. I'm definitely

1209
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,840
saying like I wanted, I want to have a buy

1210
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:31,760
into Wu. But with the piggybacks and stuff, and I mean,

1211
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,480
I think he's gonna bounce back. I just don't know

1212
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,880
if it's gonna look like that like elite elite level.

1213
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,519
I mean he is. He has a three almost three

1214
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:40,320
percent decrease in his strikeout and I was keeping him up.

1215
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,920
So I'm gonna say Rasmussen.

1216
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,559
Speaker 3: I also say, like my overall arching view on Brian

1217
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,039
Wu is to buy because like you're never gonna have

1218
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,159
a better time. I feel like to buy than right

1219
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:54,280
now on Brian Wu. So my over arching thought is

1220
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,679
by But I don't think I'm giving up like a

1221
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,400
really overperformer like Drew Rasmus were. So buy him on

1222
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,920
the cheap, but make sure it is pretty cheap.

1223
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: Who uh, We're just enough to do with him? Well,

1224
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:15,000
now let me do this. Weber Wu Web okay and

1225
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:21,400
Weber Rasmussen Web web over both. Okay. I'm ras Musen

1226
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:25,039
over Web, but I'm web over Wu.

1227
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, I think I think Web versus Rasmusen is closer.

1228
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: But okay, what's just track record for me too? Trending down,

1229
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,440
This is the guy I picked on three weeks ago

1230
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:42,320
Conley early two week four ERA in April three oh

1231
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,800
seven in May, so things were good, then they fell

1232
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,039
apart five six six ERA. Though this is very interesting.

1233
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,280
The months that he was good, he hadn't expected Era

1234
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,400
of two and a half runs and then around one

1235
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,480
and a half more this month expected to be raise

1236
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,000
the lowest of any month, and it's two runs lower

1237
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,280
than where he was at at three five one, So

1238
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,800
he's playing this weird game. His strikeouts are actually up

1239
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,039
this month. His walks are really bad. He's got a

1240
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:15,960
bad home run issue, but and I guess he's left

1241
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,639
on base percentages down, but it's a very serviceable number.

1242
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:21,079
He's getting a few more ground balls. I mean, homers

1243
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:23,679
are just clearly the biggest issue. I've had some other

1244
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,239
kind of overall issues, but this is super weird where

1245
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,079
you see when he's good, he's expected to be worse,

1246
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:30,840
and then when he's really bad, they're like, no, no,

1247
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,679
it's not that bad. That's what the expected numbers are

1248
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:36,119
telling in a very dramatic fashion. So, as I've said

1249
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:40,159
in my take on him, he's fine. I wanted to

1250
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,880
trade off because I thought there was this peak value

1251
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,039
thing where everyone's like, oh my god, he's the next

1252
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:47,639
biggest thing. I wanted to trade on the peak. I

1253
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:50,079
think he's still going to be a fine pitcher at

1254
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:51,480
the back end if he didn't make the move or

1255
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,719
anything like that. And I think that market is kind

1256
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:55,559
of gone now, so I can get off of the like,

1257
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:58,119
get out of the Conley early range. But even though

1258
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,519
he's been trending down, the trend down doesn't really hold

1259
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:03,519
up in the expected side.

1260
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, where is he on homers per nine? I'm unqualified

1261
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,000
pictures ten, So he's bottom ten in Homer's per nine.

1262
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:19,000
Also bottom fifteen in Walks per nine. It's a dangerous combo, right,

1263
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:21,639
Like you're walking guys and then letting guys hit bombs.

1264
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,719
So I think I'm with you on kind of avoiding

1265
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,559
Connie Conley early. You didn't talk yourself out of that

1266
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:28,360
just now, did you.

1267
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no, my whole thing, like

1268
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,320
I said, it was just like I thought you were

1269
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,000
trading him at a peak. I thought he was gonna

1270
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,639
comeback down. I think the end of the year he's

1271
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:40,280
just gonna like have a fine season. You know, it's

1272
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,360
not gonna be like, oh my god, he's the next

1273
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:44,320
biggest pitcher in baseball. He's got a three.

1274
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,199
Speaker 3: And see, he hasn't been getting crushed. He hasn't like

1275
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,280
it's but he just hasn't been going deep into games

1276
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,280
because he's walking so many guys and then giving up

1277
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,000
a bomb. So like, if you can clear up one

1278
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,679
of those, walk fewer guys or give up less bombs,

1279
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:02,239
you're gonna get way better fast. So there's meat on

1280
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,719
the bone there, But I just don't know if it

1281
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,519
comes through this year.

1282
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not just he's fine. He's just a fine picture.

1283
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:09,800
He's training in the wrong direction. The trade market, I think,

1284
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,440
is kind of done with same thing with Davis Martin

1285
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:16,719
one nine two five vra those first two months seven

1286
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,400
point two very inflated expected dra is in a really

1287
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,960
bad way. He's walking a ton more, he's striking out

1288
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,880
a ton less, he's giving up more homers. He is

1289
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960
getting babbit to death. I think he's the high of

1290
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,800
all the pictures in the trending down. Nobody has a

1291
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,119
higher babbit than him at three ninety four. But that's

1292
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:38,559
not gonna work really well when you are also walking

1293
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:40,719
a bunch of guys, you aren't striking out guys. Like

1294
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:44,559
to me, this is a truer version of like this

1295
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:46,559
is real trend downs, you know what I mean. Like

1296
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:50,039
he's not getting ground balls, he's not leaving guys on

1297
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,519
base because he can't get out, you know, Like he's

1298
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,440
walking dude. He's just a erratic So I think he's

1299
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,639
still like at the end of the day, probably a

1300
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:00,719
fine pitcher. Probably same in the Conley early thing where

1301
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:03,199
it's like, do you need to cut him? I mean

1302
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:06,280
unless it continues like this, but you know he has

1303
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,760
he's inflated. Is hera up into I know, I say inflated,

1304
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,280
but into the threes? The expected is pushing into the

1305
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,679
fours right now. I think he'll level out. But he's

1306
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,239
just not this untouchable. It's like the Jose Soriano. I

1307
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,480
think Jose Soriano is probably is he on this list anywhere?

1308
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,880
I didn't? He's on this list down here. Don't even

1309
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880
to talk about him. He has trended. His strike cuts

1310
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,639
have gone down, his walks have gone up. He's given

1311
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:29,559
up more homers.

1312
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: He has the highest of qualified pitchers, he has the

1313
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,000
highest walks for nine. Jose Soriano four five, five. Robbie

1314
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,119
Ray is second. Oh that's not great, but high.

1315
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,559
Speaker 2: Strikeouts don't make up for that, especially when they're trending

1316
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,440
in the opposite direction. So like, who would you rather

1317
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,400
the rest of the season, Davis Martin or Jose Soriano.

1318
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,760
I think I might go with Davis Martin.

1319
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:53,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want either of them for the

1320
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,199
rest of the season, honestly, but right I I don't know.

1321
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,719
I'll take Soriano for that upside that he gave us

1322
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,159
the first but I think they're both probably not very

1323
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:03,079
good for the rest of the year.

1324
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: So here's one to watch. Gavin Williams. Gavin Williams came

1325
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,800
out with the two seventy ra just because also I

1326
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,719
feel like Joe and I were talking. I think we

1327
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:14,840
were doing the Cole Reagans thing, and just because Gavin

1328
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Williams is really higher in the player Raider, Joe kind

1329
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,920
of threw him out here and I was like, listen,

1330
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,280
I don't. I don't think Gavin Williams has gotten to

1331
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,559
the point where like two months of what he does

1332
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,119
and then a blinders to the rest of the season

1333
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:29,239
are going to put him over Reagan's next year if

1334
01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:32,199
he's healthy and he's Gavin Williams has been trending in

1335
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:35,039
the wrong direction three five to five in May and

1336
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:39,079
then six point six four this month. Strikeouts are maintaining,

1337
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:43,679
but the walks last month was more of the outlier

1338
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:46,000
because he walked only like one and a half per nine.

1339
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,880
He's back over three, which he did in April as well.

1340
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:52,840
He's giving up more homers. The home run the five

1341
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,960
ball ratio is like ridiculous, Like when guys are getting

1342
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,639
in the air, they are blasting on him. His velo

1343
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,480
is up a little bit, but you know it's it's

1344
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:03,320
kind of inconsistent contact. Like he's a really good strikeout guy.

1345
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,199
Gavin Williams is feeling a little bit more like the

1346
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:07,599
production you got from Dylan Cees and that can still

1347
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:09,960
be a top fifteen ish guy, I suppose, But he's

1348
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,360
trending in a direction that I think is hurting some

1349
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,159
of the value. I think he could obviously bounce back,

1350
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:19,280
but is it something. Is it trending in a direction

1351
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,760
where you look and you say, he's a three to

1352
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,679
eight pitcher with a really high strikeout rate on a

1353
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:25,159
good team. Do you want to get out? Because I

1354
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:26,159
kind of want to get out?

1355
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:31,079
Speaker 3: Uh get out? I don't I want to Jordan Peel,

1356
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,760
I don't think I want to get out. I think

1357
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,880
he like it's been a lot of things that are

1358
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,920
fixable for him, like the homers per nine this month

1359
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,119
have been real bad. He's giving up more runs too,

1360
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,559
but just cut those homers down and you'll be back

1361
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:51,239
to where you were. Like the cape nine is so high,

1362
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,800
the walk per nine is high, but it's not crazy.

1363
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,000
So I think you just quick giving up the long

1364
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:00,960
ball and that's it. What's his career year homer per

1365
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,239
nine or home run percentage?

1366
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,159
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I could do home yeah, because I

1367
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:07,639
don't really ever look at Let me see where can

1368
01:05:07,639 --> 01:05:11,039
I even find doc on the.

1369
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,679
Speaker 3: Point for this year his career is one one three.

1370
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,519
It was one two three last year, and it's really

1371
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,840
just been a couple of like it's been bad starts

1372
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,920
this month. They're not all horrid, but he is giving

1373
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,360
up more runs, and it's the homers he's given up,

1374
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:32,320
give up uh two in three straight games. He didn't

1375
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,079
give up any against Chicago his last starting he had

1376
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:37,519
eight strikeouts and one walk over five innings, only gave

1377
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:40,039
up two runs, but get rid of that Gopher ball.

1378
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:42,239
So I think I'm okay. On Gavin Williams side, I

1379
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,559
think I'm in a holding. I'm not buying, but I'm

1380
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:45,360
also not selling.

1381
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: Kind of going through just some other trending guys. Kyle

1382
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:52,679
Harrison point ninety six era in May it's four eight

1383
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,159
seven this month. The strikeouts have gotten better. The walks

1384
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:57,800
are still really good, but it's been a little bit

1385
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,239
of a home run problem when it's kind of just

1386
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
solely focused on that one thing. I actually think that's

1387
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,840
very manageable, So it might be like a really good

1388
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,079
time to buy on Kyle Harrison Michael King Michael King

1389
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,880
two four to one in April three nine three. In May,

1390
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:14,800
the era is actually not worse this month. It's in

1391
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,960
the mid three. So maybe that's who he is. But

1392
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,559
they expected Era the worst this month fip x FIP.

1393
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:24,320
His strikeouts down dramatically, though he is walking less and

1394
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,480
you guessed it more homers as well. Any concerns about

1395
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,159
Michael King and the trendown.

1396
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything fell apart. It looks like here, so yeah,

1397
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:36,800
this looks this looks rough, so it looks like it

1398
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,440
hasn't happened yet, So that's kind of I think. Didn't

1399
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,400
you mentioned trading Michael King a couple of days ago?

1400
01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: I did it a while ago. I think I've mean,

1401
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:45,480
I think I mentioned a couple different times. Don't know

1402
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,199
why I always want to trade Michael King now, but

1403
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:47,719
I have.

1404
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: Been I mean, I think now would be the time

1405
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,400
to do it looking at all these expected stats being

1406
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,679
really bad. So yeah, I think I would trade Michael.

1407
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: King uh one that you hate to see or I

1408
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,079
hate to see. But Seae McClanahan really solid one four

1409
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:05,559
to one in May, era five to seven nine this

1410
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:09,559
past month or this current month, expected dra is obliterated

1411
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:12,480
into the sixes. So there's not like this better telling story.

1412
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,159
He is striking out more, but he is walking a

1413
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,199
very concerning amount. Homer's are the issue. There's a little

1414
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:22,079
bit of getting beat down on the Babbage side of it,

1415
01:07:22,119 --> 01:07:24,840
But I mean that's the thing. If you're gonna you're

1416
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,159
gonna give more potential balls in play to these guys,

1417
01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:30,039
some things are gonna happen, and it's happening in a

1418
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:32,039
bad way. So he's gonna need to find a way

1419
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:34,840
to get the ball out of the zone a little bit.

1420
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,440
More strikeouts are maybe dictating that, but that's also increasing

1421
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,360
the walk. So that's like one of those things where

1422
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,519
it's like, you know, you get the more strikeouts and

1423
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:46,199
swings and stuff, but you're walking more guys. That's going

1424
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,400
to create more bad situations for you know, guys on base,

1425
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,280
and then you're pitching in the zone and getting beat up.

1426
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:54,159
I'm like a little bit worried about this trend on

1427
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:54,679
MC planning.

1428
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 3: How many games has he made it past the fifth

1429
01:07:57,519 --> 01:07:58,639
inning this year? Do you think?

1430
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:03,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't looked. I'm gonna say, like, get well,

1431
01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:07,159
how many Okay, he's pitched fiftefteen. I'm gonna start out

1432
01:08:07,239 --> 01:08:09,960
of the fifth so into the sixth, into the sixth,

1433
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,079
ten of fifteen.

1434
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:14,199
Speaker 3: Two?

1435
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:17,079
Speaker 2: Oh jesus, I mean you kind of sum me up

1436
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:19,159
for that. Yeah, you're right, I'm looking at this now. Wow,

1437
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:20,720
he got the six inning he just.

1438
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,119
Speaker 3: Won was his last start against the Royals, but the

1439
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,359
other one was on May first.

1440
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, against the Giants. Wow. But to be fair, how

1441
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,520
many games has he not gone five? I mean, I

1442
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,640
guess it's still one, two or five, six? Six of fifteen,

1443
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,680
he's not gone five, But he's like, how many times

1444
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,720
has he been blown up?

1445
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 3: Like he hasn't been really rocked a lot?

1446
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: Now?

1447
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,359
Speaker 3: His last start he gave up six when only two

1448
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,680
were earned. Uh, in the highest he's given up this four.

1449
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,680
But he's also not going deep into games, so that

1450
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,159
four is not good through five innings? You know, it

1451
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,640
was through six or seven and be fine but not

1452
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,640
through Yeah, this.

1453
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: Might be worrisome. Trend to pay attention to expected. Also,

1454
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,920
his of his four pitches he's throwing, all of them

1455
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,920
have higher expected batting averages. That could be a little

1456
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,760
bit of a problem. It looks I don't know, the

1457
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,279
fastballs is like maybe turning down just a tiny bit

1458
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,520
as well they expected the ra is pretty worrisome. Maybe

1459
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,399
maybe the rigors of a long season coming off that

1460
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,239
injury are gonna come.

1461
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:24,119
Speaker 3: Kilo has gone down every month ninety four, ninety three

1462
01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:25,520
point seven, ninety three point two.

1463
01:09:26,119 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that's going to be Oh see, I see under

1464
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,199
your mcclanan and you have ninety what is that?

1465
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,239
Speaker 3: You know what? I'm looking at the wrong partyearling of.

1466
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: The wrong guy because I doesn't say he actually went

1467
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,640
up on that. The next guy, just the last one,

1468
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,479
Will Warren, He's yeah, fastball is trending down every single

1469
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,000
month two five, ninety ra three eight two and then

1470
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:49,199
four or five this month expected bad walks bad.

1471
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1472
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,239
Speaker 2: He's not giving up homers actually, but his velo is

1473
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:54,159
coming back down a little bit. That that is like

1474
01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:55,760
a real sign of worries. Like if we were to

1475
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,439
look at like all the guys in this list. I mean,

1476
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,359
I'm gonna just do a quick eye glance here. Fastball

1477
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,079
Velo decreases month over month would be something where I'm like, ooh,

1478
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,119
and I think Will Warren is really he's the only

1479
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:12,000
guy in these trends that has that where it's like

1480
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:14,600
ninety four ninety three and a half down to bottom

1481
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,600
ninety three, Like that's a full mile per hoor decrease

1482
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,520
over three months. Like I don't love that.

1483
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of these guys are up or you know,

1484
01:10:22,199 --> 01:10:25,439
like Lozarno I have on this list just because he

1485
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,279
is turning down a little bit. But it's zero point

1486
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:30,319
four point three point two all ninety seven, so not

1487
01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:33,640
a big decrease. So yeah, it's just really Will Warren

1488
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,319
interesting stuff.

1489
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: Hopefully you guys kind of dig that is you you

1490
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,199
poke through, you try to in us staring at this,

1491
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:42,399
you can you know, tell your own narratives about like

1492
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,279
why and what reasons a guy might be able to

1493
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:48,520
bounce back or be on the opposite side of this,

1494
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,279
or sometimes you just simply look and you're just like

1495
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:53,479
this is worrisome. I love Shane McClanahan, but I would

1496
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,399
say there's some stuff in there where it's like he's

1497
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,800
still putting up. He's a solid with a three one

1498
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:02,079
five three three era the season. It still looks good.

1499
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:03,960
I'm a little worried the hinges could come off a

1500
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,680
little bit as the season goes on, So maybe he

1501
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,600
is a trade candidate to potentially jump off of. So

1502
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:11,479
there you go a little bit of pitcher trends there.

1503
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,000
Let's take a look at our two start pitching board,

1504
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,920
looking over as CBS's board, the high percentage players that

1505
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,479
we don't need to really think too much about. Nolan

1506
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,039
McClain kicks it off, though people might be thinking about

1507
01:11:24,119 --> 01:11:27,279
McClain maybe a little bit of concern because is I

1508
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:29,479
think he's kind of a bye right now. He's got

1509
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,760
Toronto and the Braves. No worries Tek Scoubel's got two starts,

1510
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,359
Brian wu Jacob de Grom, a couple guys on this

1511
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,479
Braxton Ashcraft has been dominant by the way. He's got

1512
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,680
two roads starts. Nothing that's going to keep me off

1513
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,319
of him, nor will Parker Messik. We'll take a little

1514
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:51,159
stops here. Is Sandio Contra a okay, two sides. You

1515
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:53,359
can feel good when you see he's going against Colorado

1516
01:11:53,399 --> 01:11:55,079
in A's and I would say, wow, is this the

1517
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:59,079
get right? Except is there a place that you could

1518
01:11:59,119 --> 01:12:03,479
go to two works away ballparks? I mean, at least

1519
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,000
playing in Vegas and yeah, and then in Sacramento he's

1520
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:10,399
going though San diael conch That's to me, that's a runaway.

1521
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: The homi Ara is three one nine, the hawayra is

1522
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:15,800
four nine seven.

1523
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: And he's gonna go to the two worst ballparks in baseball.

1524
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: The average is two fifteen at home, it's two ninety

1525
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,720
nine away and the slugging three eighteen four fifty five.

1526
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,000
Yet you know what I'm with you, I don't like it.

1527
01:12:28,279 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Gross Trigger Savage, you're good. You probably go to the Rangers, Suarez,

1528
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,640
Ryan Weathers, Tigers and Twins. High percentage own not high

1529
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,680
percentage started though recently.

1530
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:41,319
Speaker 3: Good start last time out. I think, so I'm I'll

1531
01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:42,560
be okay with Weathers.

1532
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,039
Speaker 2: Not many people have been more Leathan Gauge jump by

1533
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:47,359
the way. He has got the Dodgers, but then he's

1534
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:49,680
got the Marlins, and you know what I'm doing it.

1535
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 3: They're both road He's been great.

1536
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,079
Speaker 2: Gauge is too good right now. He had this really

1537
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:56,720
interesting interview where he was like, you know, strikeouts are cool,

1538
01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:58,840
He's like, but it's not cool when it takes me

1539
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,199
ten pitches to get there. He wants to go seven

1540
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:03,159
every single start. He wants to be efficient.

1541
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:05,239
Speaker 3: It's almost as good as the adult rushing. I'm a

1542
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:10,199
grown man and I still have to have assistance. So yeah,

1543
01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:11,560
I don't understand it.

1544
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: It's embarteresting, but I love Gage, so I'm definitely down

1545
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:17,399
with Gage here. Tanner Biby, who we just talked about,

1546
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,079
has got the Rangers and the White Sox that actually

1547
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:23,520
is not like maybe the worst matchups if you're continuing

1548
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:23,960
this kind.

1549
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,159
Speaker 3: Of kid White Sox been good.

1550
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: Just yeah, but if you want to play this git

1551
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,079
right thing, I don't hate it. Shane Bob's White Sox.

1552
01:13:29,159 --> 01:13:33,119
And then at the Reds yeah or nay mm probably

1553
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:38,680
nay yeah. I mean if I if you can't avoid

1554
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,319
I think I might be considering.

1555
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: Ellie back at the Reds. The White Sox are kind

1556
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,159
of surging right now. Yeah, I'm gonna pass all right.

1557
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes Cardinals and then the Mets both are at home, though.

1558
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 3: Grant Holmes just hasn't been good, So no.

1559
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,079
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Boba Chandler was actually pretty good today,

1560
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:57,560
went five, give up Wonder and run. But he's got

1561
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,439
the Phillies and it's said to be Arstanchez and then

1562
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:06,159
at Washington words. Also, I completely agree with you, uh

1563
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:09,359
Sean Berke Orioles and the Guardians.

1564
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 3: Yep, I'll roll him.

1565
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: You need to Aaron Nola Pittsburgh and the Royals.

1566
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Ashcroft is not a good start against,

1567
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,119
but the Royal has been bad.

1568
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,159
Speaker 2: So I like Aaron Nola more than I like like

1569
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:28,880
Oz and Bubba Chandler. Yeah, I agree Lodola against Milwaukee

1570
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,800
and I yeah, I don't even like Zebbie Matthews. We're

1571
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,199
now fifty against Houston in no way New York. Yeah,

1572
01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:40,920
I agree Griffin. Jack's got the Royals and the Astros

1573
01:14:41,039 --> 01:14:41,800
both on the road.

1574
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: I like it, Okay, Yeah, start his last.

1575
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: One ury ury come back from injuries, going to Colorado

1576
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,159
and then he's going to the A's. So that I

1577
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:53,439
can be honest with you, I don't think I like

1578
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,239
it either. If it was like you had to, you

1579
01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:56,800
had to put them in and if you don't have

1580
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,279
an option of an option, but like, I don't think

1581
01:14:59,319 --> 01:14:59,960
I want to do it.

1582
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:02,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked good in his first start back. That's fine.

1583
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,640
I don't want to start him at Colorado and at

1584
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,479
the A's, and the A's game is against Jump right,

1585
01:15:09,039 --> 01:15:11,760
So if you if you can't start him, I would

1586
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,600
rather start him against Colorado. Stick up with you.

1587
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:19,199
Speaker 2: Two guys that actually put on the waiver pitcher pickup.

1588
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:21,760
They have two starts this week. Javier assad has been

1589
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,279
one nine eight ERA over his last four or in June,

1590
01:15:26,319 --> 01:15:28,800
he's going against Padres and the Cardinals. And then also

1591
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:31,960
Brandon Sprot down here twenty five percent on the CBS

1592
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,479
has got the Reds and the Diamondbacks, and Sprot has

1593
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,119
been good over.

1594
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: His last truck out ten.

1595
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:38,359
Speaker 2: I like both of those guys in two starts. Those

1596
01:15:38,359 --> 01:15:40,840
are really good pickups on two starts. Eric Lawer's got

1597
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,399
the A's and the Padres. I actually also don't hate that.

1598
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,039
The only other ones Mitch Bratt theoretically would be going

1599
01:15:49,079 --> 01:15:51,960
against the Giants and the Brewers. Ryan Johnson just had

1600
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,560
that no hitter for a little bit, but him and

1601
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,640
Rough any of these guys that are really low percentage.

1602
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,000
There's Liberatore, there's Fetti. Does anybody do anything for you?

1603
01:15:59,079 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 1: No?

1604
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 3: Not really, this is pretty slim pickings on here. I

1605
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,600
don't hate Brian Johnson or Ryan Johnson excuse me. At

1606
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,920
the Mariners is a good ballpark. And then the Red

1607
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:13,199
Sox haven't been hitting, so maybe by the rest of them. No,

1608
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,439
Spott is my only like low own, low rostered player

1609
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,039
from CBS that I really want.

1610
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sprott and Asade, those are the two that I'm

1611
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:23,199
not only just looking to picking up their two starts,

1612
01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:25,920
so that's probably where I would end up looking. So

1613
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,960
there you'll go. There you go, friends. That is everything

1614
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,760
that we got for you for the episode today. Back

1615
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,520
again next week. We are getting close to not just July,

1616
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,159
but the All Star Game. We'll probably we're gonna have

1617
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:39,079
to break. We're gonna have to have our second draft too.

1618
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,039
We have our second draft. We'll have a second half

1619
01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:44,479
draft coming up here. The MLB draft is coming up.

1620
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,960
There's a lot on that dynasty side doing a little

1621
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,439
P one ADP action probably also, you know, just gonna

1622
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,159
need to tackle maybe like our first half fantasy team,

1623
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:56,399
not just just the All Star team, but our fantasy

1624
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,800
We got some fun stuff coming up here. Two episodes

1625
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,479
next week. Make sure you're locked into that make sure

1626
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,159
you go over to Fantasy Pros check out everything. I

1627
01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:04,920
got Joe Rico with me tomorrow on Friday, and probably

1628
01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:08,199
a few more shows coming up. Has taken some time,

1629
01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:10,239
some different things, so make sure you're tuned in there.

1630
01:17:10,279 --> 01:17:13,119
We're still rocking five days a week over on Fantasy Pros,

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so make sure you check out the podcast or check

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out the YouTube and follow us on Twitter. Is it

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the Welsh Bogman Sports? While we had a weird episode

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today stops and computers going, I had to run out

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and all this in between them, I did put it's

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not getting traction and that's okay. It is a top

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three favorite tweet of mine of all time. And I

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use the Sophie Cunningham meme and I said me when

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snell Zilla Blake Snell partners with PDA Light and I

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tagged them both it is. It's my favorite work. It

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doesn't need to go viral, it doesn't need to be anything.

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It's just a me thing. I will laugh at it forever.

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It is one of my favorites of all time. Part

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I was gonna call you my.

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Speaker 3: Son's name, Thank you, Thank you, Dad, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: All right, I gotta go take care of him to

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that's horrible. That's why I had to leave, leave in

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the middle of podcast, or go get medicine because I

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love my kids, and I love you, and I love

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Bogman and I love everybody else. You know, if I

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don't love you, you know who you are. But otherwise, okay, okay,

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ready for about never write