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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Hakman, who at this point is presumed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the next La County DA defeating incumbent George Gascone not

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<v Speaker 2>a big surprise, not a big surprise at all. The

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<v Speaker 2>headwinds against George Gascon, I'll say, the hate against George Gascone.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the weird part was his reticence to even

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<v Speaker 2>engage media, to engage his competition, to engage citizens, to

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<v Speaker 2>engage his own deputy das just from the people that

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to, he would not even engage them, isolated

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<v Speaker 2>himself to where that this was the eventual end to

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<v Speaker 2>his I would say, his political career, at least as

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<v Speaker 2>DA in Los Angeles County. I don't know what he

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<v Speaker 2>may move on to next. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 2>will have a concession speech. I don't think he will

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<v Speaker 2>because that's just not his style. He hasn't said much

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<v Speaker 2>of anything about anything. And La County will move forward,

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<v Speaker 2>we will have a different district Attorney who fundamentally will

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<v Speaker 2>have a different approach to crime. And when you add

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<v Speaker 2>that with Proposition thirty six, which is going to pass

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly more than three to one. You can see how

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<v Speaker 2>people have spoken loudly and resoundingly about what they feel

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<v Speaker 2>about crime in southern California, La County, specifically what needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be done, what hasn't been done, what has been

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<v Speaker 2>largely overlooked and excused. And I've said many times on

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<v Speaker 2>my show that there's a culture of permissiveness and people

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<v Speaker 2>have taken advantage of that, and I think part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why we've seen the different types of crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to say crime is down statistically, which

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<v Speaker 2>is true, but the types of crime has changed. The

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<v Speaker 2>brazen nature of crime that we experience day to day

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<v Speaker 2>in southern California, from the street takeovers to the robberies

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<v Speaker 2>to what happens on the metro, it's just fundamentally different.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to only talk in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and statistics, yes, you can say that there are

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<v Speaker 2>fewer violent crimes for capita than a year ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is safety begins with how we feel,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't quantify that, but it's real and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think people, if they're being honest, feel generally safe

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<v Speaker 2>when they go about their way here in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>County and this is the first step into changing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and part of it is taking law enforcement and the

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<v Speaker 2>laws seriously prosecuting crimes as they should. And we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens with Nathan Hoffmann and see if we get

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<v Speaker 2>something different than what we had before. It's a CAFI

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<v Speaker 2>election desk. I'm Moe Kelly. We're going to check in

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<v Speaker 2>with Steve Roberts of ABC News and look at the

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<v Speaker 2>national scene and the latest as far as state projections

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<v Speaker 2>and whether there has been any updates to what we

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<v Speaker 2>know in the presidential race.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Is the election Desk on mo Kelly as we continue

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<v Speaker 2>to follow the events all across the nation, races both federal, national,

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<v Speaker 2>and local. Joining me right now is Steve Roberts, ABC

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<v Speaker 2>News political analysts to give us some analysis of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on around the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve, how are you doing this evening? I know it's

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<v Speaker 3>late where you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's gotten later too. It's gotten later for Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris too. You know, I think that any fair look

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<v Speaker 4>at the trend lines now. We're very careful at ABC.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't call races until we're absolutely sure. But the

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<v Speaker 4>trend line is very clear, and unless something very very

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<v Speaker 4>unusual happens, Trump is going to win this election. And

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<v Speaker 4>this core reason for this is very obvious in actually

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<v Speaker 4>in the exit polls from the very beginning mode this election.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite all of the turmoil of Biden getting out and

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<v Speaker 4>Harris getting in and Trump getting shot, the basic parameters,

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<v Speaker 4>the basic foundation of this election has been exactly the

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<v Speaker 4>same from day one, and that is that about two

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<v Speaker 4>thirds to three quarters of Americans tell polsters we don't

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<v Speaker 4>like the direction of the country. We're paying too much

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<v Speaker 4>for gas and groceries, where don't like inflation. Inflation is

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<v Speaker 4>in Los Angeles every day. But it's beyond prices. There

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<v Speaker 4>is this global gloom. Oh there's this infection of the

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<v Speaker 4>spirit that has lasted long after the infection of COVID

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<v Speaker 4>has gone away, and it helped defeat Donald Trump four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. It's defeating ruling parties in the UK and

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<v Speaker 4>all over the world. And so when you step back

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<v Speaker 4>in some ways tonight was inevitable that asking Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>to run as an incumbent vice president when the country

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<v Speaker 4>is so gloomy, it was an enormously difficult task.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there was history which was working against hers, just

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<v Speaker 2>as far as vice presidents trying to become president usually

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<v Speaker 2>don't do well, with the notable exception of George H. W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush. We know what happened to al Gore and what

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder, though, was this more You say that

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<v Speaker 2>there was an economic reason primarily, how much do you

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<v Speaker 2>think was it an embrace of Donald Trump as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, you know, it's always hard to evaluate which variables

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<v Speaker 4>were more important, because, as you certainly rightly point out,

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<v Speaker 4>mode every voter is a combination of many factors. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a woman whom I care about reproductive rights

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<v Speaker 4>also is paying too much for eggs and milk at

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<v Speaker 4>the grocery store. I mean, you know, so everybody is

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<v Speaker 4>a mixture of factors. Where you can see evidence of

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's personality making a difference is in the votes of

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<v Speaker 4>black and Latino men. Twenty percent of Black men voted

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<v Speaker 4>for Donald Trump, but over fifty percent of Latino men

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<v Speaker 4>voted for Fifty three percent of Latino men voted for

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump. And you have to at least hypothesize that

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<v Speaker 4>his the whole aura around Donald Trump is sort of

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<v Speaker 4>strength and power and and and sort of masculinity at

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<v Speaker 4>least was one of the reasons why those numbers were

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<v Speaker 4>so different. There were enormous gender gaps both the black

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<v Speaker 4>and Latino communities. Latino and Black women voted pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>the way they have in the past for Harris, but

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<v Speaker 4>there was a big shift among men.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get a sense from at least the data

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<v Speaker 2>that there were more black mail and Latino male voters. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if we look at history, the Democratic Party has had

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<v Speaker 2>a strong base among Black women voters, less so with

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<v Speaker 2>black men. Even though there may have been an upward

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<v Speaker 2>shift towards Donald Trump, does the data suggest that more

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<v Speaker 2>black men came out to vote this particular election cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's hard to tell. Not really. I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been struck by any real significant shift. The real shift

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<v Speaker 4>is in the way they're voted. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>look at another number that was really striking to me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a week or or so before the election,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of talk about late movement toward Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>There was that outlying Poland Iowa was showed Harris had

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<v Speaker 4>by three points. There was all this talk about momentum

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<v Speaker 4>on the Harris side. They were putting out press releases,

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<v Speaker 4>and it didn't show up tonight. In fact, of the

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<v Speaker 4>folks who decided in the last week or so, by

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<v Speaker 4>seven points, they voted for Donald Trump, not Harris. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's yet one more number to factor into the mix.

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<v Speaker 4>But you made a very important point, and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>just that Harris was caught in this trying to run

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<v Speaker 4>as the vice president from with a very unpopular administration.

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<v Speaker 4>But history is really very telling here. It's sometimes called

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<v Speaker 4>the Curse of Martin van Buren. Martin van Buren was

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<v Speaker 4>the vice president who has succeeded Andrew Jackson eighteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and eighty eight years since then. As you

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<v Speaker 4>point out, George Bush forty one, the only vice president

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<v Speaker 4>who's ever been able to run directly. And when the

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<v Speaker 4>presidents see that, people like both Joe Biden and Richard

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<v Speaker 4>Nixon had once been vice presidents when they finally won

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<v Speaker 4>the presidency, but they didn't do it directly. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>because there are only two slogans in American politics when

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<v Speaker 4>it really comes down to it, you never had it

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<v Speaker 4>so good, which is what all incumbents say, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>time for change, which is what all challenges say. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're the vice president of an incumbent party, you

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<v Speaker 4>actually got to say both things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to say, I'm defending the record, I'm proud

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<v Speaker 4>of my service in this administration. But by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also a change agent. There's an inherent mixed message.

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<v Speaker 4>It's inherently muddled, and you can see this with Kambala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>You could see that day when she was on the View,

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<v Speaker 4>when she made one of the worst mistakes of the campaign,

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<v Speaker 4>when she was asked, well, can you name a single

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<v Speaker 4>issue the difference that I can't think of one because

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<v Speaker 4>she was caught. She didn't want to insult Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the same time, she came across to someone

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<v Speaker 4>who was too tied to the past. Even though she

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<v Speaker 4>kept talking about changing the page and talking about turning

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<v Speaker 4>over in a new day, she was inevitably tied to Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>and Trump's ads hammered that home. They talked all the

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<v Speaker 4>time about how it's been three and a half years

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<v Speaker 4>she's been part of the Biden administration. They showed every

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<v Speaker 4>ad I saw in the last few days started with

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<v Speaker 4>images of Biden and Harris standing together and holding hands,

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<v Speaker 4>and they just hammered home because they knew that this

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Roberts, I'm running out of time with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask you this question, and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>general question. As I look at the Senate map and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at Republicans they now have control of the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>that the House is still to be decided, is it

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<v Speaker 2>fair to posit that this might be beyond Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>a referendum against Democrats, and the Democratic Party is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to do some soul searching between now and

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<v Speaker 2>the next midterms.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's certainly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the Democrats have already clearly lost the Senate

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<v Speaker 4>seat in Ohio incumbent there Sheried Brown. Their incumbents in

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<v Speaker 4>Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are hanging by a thread. They could

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<v Speaker 4>lose as well. You know, But you're right to point

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<v Speaker 4>out the importance of the House because and then right

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<v Speaker 4>there in southern California, as you well know, some of

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<v Speaker 4>the key races are going to decide in the end

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<v Speaker 4>whether the Democrats take the House. If Donald Trump this

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<v Speaker 4>this next couple of years in Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be very, very different.

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<v Speaker 4>If Donald Trump comes in not only with the Senate,

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<v Speaker 4>but with the House and also of course a Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 4>With a Supreme Court with a conservative majority, There'll be

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<v Speaker 4>no guardrails, there'll be no obstacles. If the Democrats manage

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<v Speaker 4>even by one seat to hold the House, that means

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<v Speaker 4>that they will have some leverage, they will have some power.

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<v Speaker 3>If they don't hold the.

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<v Speaker 4>House, they'll be left with only one source of any

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<v Speaker 4>kind of leverage or power in Washington, and that's the

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<v Speaker 4>Senate philibuster. And it wasn't that long ago that a

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<v Speaker 4>whole lot of Democrats, including Joe Biden and Kamla Harris,

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<v Speaker 4>said let's do away with the philibusters and we can

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<v Speaker 4>pass all these wonderful things. Aren't they really glad that

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<v Speaker 4>they are going to have the filibuster if that's the

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<v Speaker 4>only way they can exert any kind of checking balance

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<v Speaker 4>on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>We will find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Roberts, ABC News Political Analysts, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for staying up late with us, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure anytime, I am six forty is the election desk,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm o Kelly we'll have more in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining us right now with some local updates is

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<v Speaker 2>how long has your dave been going today?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I attended the city council meeting this morning

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<v Speaker 5>into the afternoon just to you know, take some notes

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<v Speaker 5>he was going on. I didn't want to miss anything.

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<v Speaker 5>And now here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>I see your five o'clock shadow, but it's not really

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<v Speaker 2>a five o'clock shadow because it's like ten o'clock at

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<v Speaker 2>night it is, and it starts three days earlier, so

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose you got it that row very fast. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>surprising in the data that you have right now? Where

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<v Speaker 3>would you like to start? Sure?

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, you know, I'm following the county, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>following the city. So I've got some county ballot measures

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<v Speaker 5>and the la City council races that are going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with Measure A. All right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Measure A.

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<v Speaker 5>This is this will impact everybody who buys anything in

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<v Speaker 5>the city, right Like, so, we're already currently paying a

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<v Speaker 5>quarter cent sales tax to support homeless efforts on purchases,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is supposed to go away in measure that

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<v Speaker 5>used to be. Yes, that's what the current one is exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>These measures start to get confused, I guess it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But the current Measure A would basically repeal that one,

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<v Speaker 5>but not get rid of it. It would double the

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<v Speaker 5>amount that you're paying in order to fund homelessness. So

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<v Speaker 5>from a quarter cent sales tax to a half a

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<v Speaker 5>cent sales pack at sales tax without us on st clause,

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<v Speaker 5>So in perpetuity and extra ever, forever, ever, ever, until

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<v Speaker 5>you a voter or somebody says, Okay, enough is enough,

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<v Speaker 5>let's put it on the ballot to repeal it. That's

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<v Speaker 5>winning right now pretty overwhelmingly fifty five to forty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, we're going to have more sales tax.

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<v Speaker 5>What I saw from the campaign and support of this

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<v Speaker 5>was a lot of the large nonprofits in the area,

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<v Speaker 5>including the United Way, pushing the message that if we

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<v Speaker 5>don't adopt this, the people who have been helped and

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<v Speaker 5>brought into housing from homelessness will be back on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a guilt conscience where we feel like you,

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<v Speaker 2>if I just say yes to this, I've done my

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<v Speaker 3>Be damned.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that we haven't made any inroads. It just

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it feels like that. This is what I

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<v Speaker 5>This was because remember, just last year we voted on

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<v Speaker 5>or just in the primaries, we voted on a statewide

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<v Speaker 5>homelessness and that sort of thing. It was very close,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I was curious about how this one was

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<v Speaker 5>going to turn out, whether folks have decided, Look, we've

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<v Speaker 5>thrown billions of dollars at this problem. We're not seeing

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<v Speaker 5>any tangible difference in testing exactly. Now you'll hear from

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<v Speaker 5>homeless advocates and the organizations that are supported by these

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<v Speaker 5>funds that homeless homelessness finally dropped in both the city

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<v Speaker 5>and the county very modestly, but after years of an increase,

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<v Speaker 5>it did level off and drop for the first time

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<v Speaker 5>in the official homeless count that was released earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 5>So they may think they've got some momentum and maybe

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<v Speaker 5>with a little more money they'll be able to address

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<v Speaker 5>it more. But right now the voters agree fifty five

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<v Speaker 5>one that I'm seeing, though, mo is is measured G

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<v Speaker 5>and this was the proposal to take the five county

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<v Speaker 3>This is basically a county mayor.

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<v Speaker 5>And based on the support that I mean, like every

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<v Speaker 5>week I was getting press releases, We're gonna have Asians

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<v Speaker 3>It was all these different.

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<v Speaker 5>Rank that opportunity on their right. It looks like President

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's gonna be an office. I think it'll be allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to make those jokes. Yeah, we'll see, but all of

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<v Speaker 5>these different groups who represent diverse viewpoints, because that was

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<v Speaker 5>one of the messages that like, look, we've got ten

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<v Speaker 5>million people in this county. Each supervisor is basically representing

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<v Speaker 5>two million. That's more than some governors, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>leave a lot of opportunities for a variety of the

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<v Speaker 5>county's rich cultural diversity to be represented. On the Council,

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<v Speaker 5>on the Board of Supervisors. I have to say this one.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was going to pass. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not a good I'm not good at handicapping, But just

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<v Speaker 5>based on all the attention it was getting, I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>it looks like the right people are supporting this. I

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<v Speaker 5>guess it's been fifty to fifty right now, maybe fifty

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<v Speaker 3>At no is winning right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No on that, I thought if it didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>CEO component, it would have passed overwhelmingly.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you saying you wouldn't want another mayor in La County?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that, it just was unclear, and I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a number of the supervisors about it directly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unclear as far as how that position would work.

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<v Speaker 2>There weren't any real term limits. There wasn't clarity about

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<v Speaker 2>how the supervisors county supervisors would be subordinate to this person.

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<v Speaker 2>If they said, hey, we're going to go from five

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<v Speaker 2>I think voters would have passed that overwhelmingly.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you might be right about that, because there

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<v Speaker 5>did seem to be a Now, look, this is also

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<v Speaker 5>something that's come up over the years and has been

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<v Speaker 5>rejected by La County voters eight times. But they basically

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<v Speaker 5>had the same number of supervisors for I mean since

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen fifteen, and the county's population has grown. So a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of the arguments you heard made sense objectively, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and the same number of people representing all these different

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<v Speaker 5>points of view, It does make sense to at least

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<v Speaker 5>consider how you might be able to get closer to government.

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<v Speaker 2>They do it with the census as far as congressional representatives,

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<v Speaker 2>so why not do it on a county level.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly right, and that was the argument that was taken,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's very curious to me that it's as close.

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<v Speaker 5>This is also an issue that divided the current Board

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<v Speaker 5>of Supervisors. Now I attend a lot of their meetings too,

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<v Speaker 5>every Tuesday, and most of the stuff sales through. They're

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<v Speaker 5>a very polite group to one another. They tend to

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<v Speaker 5>vote five nothing on things, occasional dissent on an item

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<v Speaker 5>here or there. This one created some very serious friction.

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<v Speaker 2>Holly Mitchell and also Catherine Barger, who you would think

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<v Speaker 2>are ideologically opposed to just about everything were in agreement.

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<v Speaker 5>As far as the opposition to this, they absolutely were.

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<v Speaker 5>So Catherine Barger, a Republican from you know, the High Desert,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, and Holly Mitchell from here in the city

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<v Speaker 5>is jus my supervisor. Yeah, so they teamed up to

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<v Speaker 5>say like this was rushed through, it was not well

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<v Speaker 3>They also said they support.

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<v Speaker 5>Exploring an expansion of the board, but they didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>this proposal at all. What was strange was that the

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<v Speaker 5>opposition of this really had no serious campaign. The yes

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<v Speaker 5>really hard, and for it to be as tight as

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<v Speaker 2>Michael, can I lean on you to get one more

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<v Speaker 2>segment out of you because we got to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the La City Council, whether Kevin de Leone has another life,

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<v Speaker 2>did he avoid the end of his political career somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>some way? And also Prop thirty six. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen with Prop thirty six, But what

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<v Speaker 2>it's the KFI election desk. I'm mo Kelly sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>with Michael Monks will have more just a moment CAFI

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>And joining me in studio is still Michael Monks, kfi's

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just give everyone the national update.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia has just been called for former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>It adds to a total.

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<v Speaker 2>So my tope board, as it were, is Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>two forty eight, Kamala Harris two sixteen. That's the national

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<v Speaker 2>Senior And you and I were talking about how Ohio interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on in Ohio, how the Democratic incumbent

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<v Speaker 2>Shared Brown lost to a relative unknown, relative unknown, and

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<v Speaker 2>how the politics of that state have shifted so greatly

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<v Speaker 2>in the past I'll say six years or so.

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<v Speaker 5>I come here directly from the Cincinnati media market. That's

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<v Speaker 5>where I worked for a long time, interviewed Shared Brown

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<v Speaker 5>many times, and even interviewed Bernie Marino when he was

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<v Speaker 5>going to open a new one in an area that

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<v Speaker 5>I covered as a newsman. There and it is interesting

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<v Speaker 5>that Ohio has become very reflective of the rural urban

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<v Speaker 5>divide that we see across the country. Ohio is a

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the map of how they vote, it's

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what you would think. It's overwhelmingly blue and Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Dayton,

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<v Speaker 5>and read everywhere else and there is a very serious

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<v Speaker 5>disconnect between the city and the country. Shared Brown, over

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<v Speaker 5>all these years has been able to bridge those gaps.

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<v Speaker 2>And I made the comparison off there talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to connect even though it was a

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<v Speaker 2>did in rural West Virginia or John Tester did in

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<v Speaker 5>And this is a state that Barack Obama won two

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<v Speaker 5>times when you know, not that long ago, but now

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<v Speaker 5>Shared Brown really represents a strengthening of that divine that

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring it back locally, Kevin de Leone, he is

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<v Speaker 2>a politician of many lives. You think that he's done,

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<v Speaker 2>and he keeps coming back. There was the controversy of

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<v Speaker 2>the tape. I'll just call it the tape. In paraphrasing,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm not stepping down. He was going to

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<v Speaker 2>write it out. Is he able to write it out? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the counselman like you noted that was part

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<v Speaker 2>three who is still around at city Hall. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them lost their election, another one resigned and ran away.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin de Leon said, no, I'm gonna work on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to repair my image, my relationship with the community.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, though he's facing the toughest threat to his

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<v Speaker 2>he's losing pretty comfortably to challenger Isabelle Herado, the tenants

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<v Speaker 2>the remarks she made at cal State LA to a

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<v Speaker 2>group of students. And of course we found the question

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<v Speaker 2>was asked by a student who works for Kevin daly On.

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<v Speaker 2>But it did bait her into saying f the police,

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<v Speaker 2>and that has been the theme of the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, Kevin da Leon hitting her really hard on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're looking at about a four thousand vote lead

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<v Speaker 2>for Isabel Herado over Kevin Dalyon. I just checked the

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<v Speaker 2>LA County Registrar. That first batch of votes came from

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<v Speaker 2>mail ballots, the second batch came from early voting periods

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<v Speaker 2>over that ten days, and then the third batch of

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<v Speaker 2>votes that had been part of this update are also

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<v Speaker 2>vote by mail. So the question I guess Moe, is

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<v Speaker 2>has Kevin Dallyon got enough of a voter turnout ground

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<v Speaker 2>game kids, He got enough people out there willing to

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<v Speaker 2>go directly to the polls and in person to help

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<v Speaker 2>put him over the edge. I guess there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of room and a little bit of hope for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now this is the toughest fight of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Close out our conversation and this hour talking about Proposition

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six, but against the backdrop of crime more generally

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<v Speaker 2>here in southern California. In California, I look, I know

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<v Speaker 2>how people feel about crime. I know how people feel,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the LA District attorney's race was part

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<v Speaker 2>and parcel of Prop thirty six. Prop thirty six. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to look at any outlet. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to pass overwhelmingly. But what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that says going forward?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's connected to the LA County District Attorney's

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<v Speaker 5>race as well, right, I mean there is a perception regardless.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the eyeball test, is what I think. You just

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<v Speaker 5>called it a little bit ago, Like what can I

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<v Speaker 5>see with my own eyes? And what I see is

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<v Speaker 5>making me uncomfortable and unhappy, and that is a rise

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<v Speaker 5>in crime or the perception that crime is on the rise,

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<v Speaker 5>regardless of the stats that you can quote or manipulate.

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<v Speaker 5>So what we are seeing is Californian saying, look, enough

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<v Speaker 5>is enough. We're too lenient on this. I can't go

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<v Speaker 5>buy deodor and at Walgreens without some combination. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like I have the buzz, Like what if I'm buying

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<v Speaker 5>some something embarrassing. I'm getting older, I'm buying embarrassing stuff

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<v Speaker 5>at Walgreens. Nowak for yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to own that yet, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to have the buzz every you know, so

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<v Speaker 6>I guess that's the feeling. But you walk around downtown

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<v Speaker 6>LA and you see open air drug use all over town.

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<v Speaker 6>You and I have talked many times about what happens

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<v Speaker 6>on the transit system. Yeah, across the region, people are

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<v Speaker 6>fed up with it. And that's why you're seeing Prop

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<v Speaker 6>thirty six right now with about forty two percent of

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<v Speaker 6>the vote come in. Seventy percent are saying yes, let's

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<v Speaker 6>have tougher penalty. Never for some of these proposition in California. Never,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't see a vote that wide in margin, No,

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<v Speaker 6>you really don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we've even got like raised the minimum wage

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<v Speaker 5>on the bow and that usually is something that people

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<v Speaker 5>are well rally behind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, let's let's pay the word.

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<v Speaker 5>No, even that one's like about fifty to fifty right

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<v Speaker 5>now with the same number of votes, and Prop thirty

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<v Speaker 5>six is where it was at today on the state

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<v Speaker 5>wide ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, and this is a question I was just

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<v Speaker 2>positing out loud, if I had a chance to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Nathan Hockman is going to be our next district attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when are we going to feel something? When

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to see something? Because look, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to either wait for crime to happen so you can

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<v Speaker 2>prosecute it, or you have to do something to try

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<v Speaker 2>to thwart it in advance. I wonder what the future

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<v Speaker 2>is going to look like in the short term, as

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<v Speaker 2>in when Hawkman takes office. In the long term, as

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<v Speaker 2>we see Proposition of thirty six really play out and

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<v Speaker 2>people get the word in that there's figuratively a new

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<v Speaker 2>sheriff in town and he has new laws to use.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's the challenge for everyone who's winning today,

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<v Speaker 5>even at the top of the top of the ticket

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<v Speaker 5>at the presidential candidates. I mean, whoever it is that wins,

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<v Speaker 5>and if it's Donald Trump, for example, you say a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff, going to do this, We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>do this and do that, and people's attention shifts really

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<v Speaker 5>quickly from adulation to complaints and then rejection.

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<v Speaker 2>No politician is more popular than the day that he

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<v Speaker 2>or she is alleged exactly, and after that disappointment starts

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<v Speaker 2>to creep in. The difference is there's a possibility, not

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<v Speaker 2>a probability, but a possibility that a future President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>would have a Senate, a Republican Senate, and possibly a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican House and a Scotis with a conservative majority, they're

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<v Speaker 2>more levers at his disposable. Presumably, if it plays out

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<v Speaker 2>like that, then just a local politician, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And then what kind of news will we be

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<v Speaker 5>giving a district attorney in Hawkman when you know, just

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<v Speaker 5>some random guy who committed a felony that didn't garner

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<v Speaker 5>headlines is getting a tougher penalty. I mean, part of

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to be our responsibility. I supposed to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we're looking at data, looking at statistics and saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, people who are being arrested for this or that,

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<v Speaker 5>they are paying a higher price for it, and now

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<v Speaker 5>we need to figure out a way to quantify that

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<v Speaker 5>to reflect higher safety standards in our community.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of safety standards, I know you have more work

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<v Speaker 2>to do tonight, but you're not taking the metro home.

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<v Speaker 2>They giving out free rides tonight, you know that, right

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, my spouse took the free bus.

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<v Speaker 3>She did around. You know, it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 5>But today I did take the official iHeart vehicle that

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<v Speaker 5>they give me to ride around in, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I did look at that. That was very nice of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very nice of them, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to get down to the downtown headquarters every

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<v Speaker 5>now and then, and so they've they've given me the

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<v Speaker 5>iHeart vehicle too to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard they have a nice studio at the Downtown Heart.

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<v Speaker 5>It's lovely, little loud because it's next to the firehouse.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, if I'm everlive from there on your show,

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<v Speaker 5>you've probably heard the sirens. Don't they serve drinks there too, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Shmoal you should come down check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>See there's a cat.

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<v Speaker 2>See. I've been invited to the downtown iHeart studios where

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<v Speaker 2>they serve drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>They do serve drinks and anything. Michael Monks, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 4>Mo.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the KFI Election Desk. We'll have more.

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