Speaker 1: Oh my god. Hell, ladies and gentlemen, Streamyards finally get
us on air.
Speaker 2: We are here live with the gimmick. You're monthly.
Speaker 1: It's at weird because I left us. When do we
do the gimmick? Lass is January thirty first? Technically that's
like supposed to be a februaryish same thing. This is February.
It's March one now, the first of March. But it's
kind of like so February is a weird month, and
as we said, Mania season, it's kind of weird. And
we got the game. But I am the Canadian nightmare.
I'm joined by the very nice, the very evil, the
very boxy David. David.
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm enjoying the craziness of the Midwest right now.
With seventy five degrees yesterday, it is thirty five degrees today.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, You're not dealing with mountains of snow and stuff.
I saw Boga post as kids on the patio. It's
just like mountains of.
Speaker 2: Snow on their tables in the yard and stuff.
Speaker 1: So even Canada, we ain't getting that right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not yet for us, but on our forecast we
do have on I think Friday it is supposed to
be a high sixty five, but there's also a sixty
percent chance of snow that morning. So again we.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know for people that for years I grew
up with them that make their candad jokes and that
we live in Angloose and it's called and everything.
Speaker 2: It is snowed twice here, laid Jone. I'm in Canada, Vancouver, BC.
It is snowed twice, and the two times it snowed,
it was gone the next day. Now, something might be
go warm, but I don't want to hear anything cana
jokes in the next decade about like, oh, it's so
cold in the snow. It's like in America where it's warm.
Speaker 1: You guys are getting dumped on all the time. But
we are joined by never.
Speaker 4: I had this planned if he won the chamber, honestly
relating to what Hangman has going on. But it was
too good.
Speaker 2: It works.
Speaker 1: No, it works either way though, still you know that,
and that's why it's still a good thing. They didn't
go full cody, because what we're gonna talk about today,
leaiz Jonal is we're gonna talk about the chamber and
kind of just some WrestleMania implication implications kind of in
general has been going on TV like it's a big
heavy debate right now about everything with Mania.
Speaker 2: Right, so how do we see it? Kind of fall
him out?
Speaker 1: And then we'll talk about s pubbs is gonna have
after we do Chamber, the results of the draft, and
of course in the Chamber we'll talk about everything that happened,
Dan Houison, Seth, the winners, all that good stuff. We'll
do the draft results and we're gonna do some Revolution predictions,
and then for the next few months, as we've said before,
April gets a little dicey. You'll get like at least
probably three episodes in April because we're gonna do a
rest many Predictions, which is our new draft for the
twenty twenty six twenty seven. So we'll do that, and
then we're gonna review rest May night one to night two.
Speaker 2: Dynasty.
Speaker 1: I havena I forgot that Dynasty is a week before Mania.
Speaker 2: It's a big pain.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do with that because
I might be there live as well, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: If we don't do an episode, maybe I'll put.
Speaker 1: A camera on Dylan and make him review his first
ever wrestling events. That's my hope is I bought me
and Dylan tickets, and my hope is if I can
get down there, we're gonna see. He's never seen wrestling,
so dynasty will We'll see. Even if it's a mini
review after WrestleMania Night one.
Speaker 4: That would be like a good like Chravis told.
Speaker 1: You with, it would be yeah, like because I'm gonna
be there, I gonna bring my mic and stuff, so
hopefully we can do that. But yeah, so that's gonna
be happening. And then for March next weekend, well, I'm
gonna talk to the guys. After either the seventh or
the eighth, we're gonna be streaming, gonna be two K
twenty six. This is gonna be the matches. It's gonna
be us. So obviously it's gonna be shortmount of time.
But make your creator wrestler as fast as your canboys,
we're gonna be having a best of five, and whoever
wins third well or whoever wins the three first will
be ranked first, and then whoever does the second obviously
second third. Because the week after or the weekend after,
whenever we can figure it out, we're gonna be doing
GMO twenty twenty six, which is technically our fourth season
lost of new edition. So that's gonna decide the ranking,
the order, who picks the gms the shows. So that's
why with I think, and there'll be another Gimmick I
think after Revolution, I think as well. I think because
Revolution is on a Sunday, the fifteenth, obviously we're not
gonna do that because A will go to five in
the morning.
Speaker 2: So the twenty second we will do even just a
mini one. So that's where look.
Speaker 1: Out on Patreon or social media if you want to
watch live. If not, it'll be on the feed. You
have the Gimmick feed, and then he got the GV
feed as well. So that's why we kind of are
kind of all over but Wrestlmingia season you're gonna get
an additional episode. But yeah, so we're here to talk
about said season. David, what do you think about the Chamber?
Was a format show including a box reveal as well?
How was it overall for you? Overall?
Speaker 3: For me, I would say this was a three out
of five, and that's kind of being a little bit generous.
Speaker 1: The whole show three out of five.
Speaker 3: The whole show for and I think part of it
for me is that the switch over to ESPN, the
price increase and everything else, you gave me a four
match mediocre experience.
Speaker 1: David's already on Asterix on it now. He factors in
the price and the format, the form. It is getting
crazy that we're down to four matches now. I remember
last year all the debates and stuff like five, can
you really do five? And I agree, I think you
should do more. Don't need to do a w style.
But I feel like somewhere, depending on how long the
match is, like six to eight can be a good
sweet spot. So let's say six, but even five is
like okay, I could see the fact that we're getting four.
I know it's Chamber of Rumble, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just say, I feel like the stretch of
the ones where it's for like with the war games
and the Rumble and the Chamber, like those are the
formatch because I feel like, yeah, because last year, like
the like Night of Champions or Crown Jewels, I think
all at five. So it's just kind of it's weird
that like the stretch of the ones that have four
all happen to be like back to back to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the show going to use just a
mid card ice like I guess there was a mid
card icy, but like AJ felt like that feels more
like a bigger deal ag in Becky, right, it doesn't
feel like a mid card like when Gutha was defending
its Shamus or somebody like I felt like they needed
I guess they thought Dan Holson might be that cool down.
But you can't make a debut the cool down. So
it's like a four match card is a really odd
pacing to try.
Speaker 3: And do you know, it felt like a WrestleMania just
a a pre like a prequel to WrestleMania. Everything here
is just to set up WrestleMania, nothing else, Like you
have all these other titles and things like that you
could have utilized they had. It wasn't like they were
in the chamber a righty, You didn't have your IC
champion in the chamber of somebody else. And the you
could you've already had the tag titles, the women's tag titles.
Drop said they can be in the chamber, Like there
were so many other options. You could have slayed it
some matches in there and.
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna get into it. But to be honest,
I think we all know that the men's or the
SmackDown World title for the men is not gonna be
a one on one match, So you could just scrap
and be like, we're just gonna do one chamber. It's
gonna be the women and then do another match, like
I'm not saying it, like I don't know. It's tough.
Sometimes you can have multiple chairs, but that's where it
could helped have something else. I don't think any chamber
was like remarkable. I think the woman's one was better,
but I think they both had some issues. Like obviously
Ellie Knight had some issues. And then it's funny because
she won a lot of Most Improved awards, but I
feel like Raquel really had like a bad showing last night.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was not her best. It was
just kind of sloppy.
Speaker 4: So I think I'm I think for a lot of people,
it's kind of like like the opposite. Like a lot
of tweets are like Raquel carried the chamber and like
they even booed when she got illuminated.
Speaker 1: That's fun, but like she could barely she was gonna
drop oscar on her fucking head and that finished like
she like the Hoist. There's lots of that type of
stuff where just the pacing and it's and I think,
what's like, I don't I don't even think this is
an offensive thing to say. Raquel's like the market is
like a big woman, but she's not like I don't
think she's like super strong.
Speaker 2: Like she's not like a genetic freak, you know.
Speaker 1: It's not like yeahs like like the meme that he.
Speaker 4: Said, like in my gym, Hollymoode Indie Heart Well like
a giant class and it's like.
Speaker 1: It's that it's not like Beth Phoenix, who was just
like she's gonna powerhouse guys like she's gonna pick up
the Great Golli and throw them over the rope, you know.
Where it's like Racquel like they they book her. I
feel like whoever is producing these matches multiple times I've
caught it where it's fine if it's someone like really
really tough. I guess Oscar's not that big, But I
feel like they book her to be like what ny
or Jay does, but it's not.
Speaker 4: She doesn't have that book like like like especially with
like the stuff dude Chamber, I was like this like
like bronze strowing, like like.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, like run through the house, like even the
Big Show. It's like she's not that and I even
know because like she's I think on purpose, especially when
she's gonna be wrestling, Like Ria's like toned up a lot,
so she's not as big as she used to be,
but Ria's not also small, so it's like it's weird
to have Raquela's like, well, she's the big giant person
or like Ria's like her same size, so it doesn't
I don't know, it's just something there. So yeah, that
didn't really work. But I think I'm similar to David
where it's like I don't know if I'm first show,
but I think I'm in that three to three point
five somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: I didn't like love the show.
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of a lot of predictability
and no match really stood out, Like I think A
J and Becky for me, was really sloppy, which is
fine ages getting back. I think Punkin Baller had a
better match on Raw a couple of weeks ago. I
think both the men and women's Chamber had some fun moments,
but nothing that was like really stood out.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Back to watch this one, you know, So yeah, wus bubs,
I'd say.
Speaker 4: I mostly agree. I think overall, probably higher on the
show than you guys, but I'd still say, like in
that general range of like a like, if we all
had to agree on like one rating for the whole
show and you guys said three point five, I'd probably
be okay with still giving that, but for me it
was probably a little bit more. But there's definitely stuff
like like I think just like the ending in general,
like not to the actual match, but or like the
Dan Housen into the Men's Chamber match, I'd say was like,
like I like the first three matches quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, that those two for especially because like
I don't know, I'm I'm so curious with people. I
guess I just don't know, because I saw a lot
of people talking about the Men's Chamber of being overbooked
and just like I feel like that's been and I
think it's good or bad.
Speaker 2: But it's like their biggest match since Triple A Takeover.
Speaker 1: Was the Bloodline Rules match, right, which was like an
overbooked mess, but like in a good way. So it's
like that it's clearly stuff they do here, but there's
just weird. I get it when people like, oh, well,
Logan Paul took Bronton spot, so that's why he got
all those eliminations. But it's like that's not the same.
It's like remember Rumble a couple of years ago when
Brock was supposed to be in it, all that shit
went down, Like okay, just to get Braun the spot, right,
that works because like Braun is like big has a
similar mindset for Logan Paul to be the guy like
runs the table and starts to like eliminate people and
it's fine they're doing in like cheap sort of ways,
but it just kind of.
Speaker 4: It probably would have been like he just like does
the tsunami on them and yeah, and Paul is like
I think like two of them were literally just like
he low blowed and like rolled them up.
Speaker 1: Was like the elimination, which is like, I I guess
I get it, but yeah, there's one where someone hit
their fish. He threw them out of the ring. It's like,
what's the matter to you? Like what like if he's
just gonna get like you can say like, oh, I
pinned him. I thought they were gonna do something like
he has the record, but I don't even know if
he has that for like elimination chamber elimit which is
like not even that impressive. There's only six people in it,
so it's not like a crazy like oh, no one
could ever do this.
Speaker 4: So I think like, like I think Shana has the
one where she eliminated everyone.
Speaker 2: Shane eliminated everybody.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, that was like the well, if you go back,
the crowd is like like like she eliminates everyone in
the crowd is like dead silent for her.
Speaker 5: She she eliminates four and then she and yeah that's
when because yeah, that's your she versus speculates. Yeah, that's
why because because I remember Becky multile times in her
books that she wanted to lose a Shana.
Speaker 1: That's why Vin was back there. He had this woman
on the make five people and saw the reactions.
Speaker 4: But even then, like the people they put her like
in that chamber with was like it wasn't like, oh,
she's like dominating. It was like it was like Sarah
Logan and like Mandy Rose and like people like that,
Like it's like destroying these people isn't gonna do that
much for like, yeah, if it was like like Charlotte
in there and she just like eliminates her like right away.
But for men's record, I mean, it probably is speaking
of bron Strowman, it probably is him in some chamber,
bron or Brock.
Speaker 1: It's always one of those goddamn guys. But yeah, I
guess we could start with the men's chamber because there's
some obviously stuff that's coming to that from both away.
So I agree with David you said yesterday where Javon
I thought he's gonna get bit more highlight. I thought
the highlight that Keana James got and the women's that
was what Javon was gonna get. He still did some
cool stuff, but I thought he was gonna last a
bit longer. But start with him and Cody. I did
like the spot of when Paul came in and him
Trick and Jave just beat Logan Paul down. I know,
it's the report we talked about.
Speaker 4: They do that in every like like every rumble, he's
the like every chamberly do that same spot.
Speaker 2: We've read before we talked about this.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, just turn trick, you knoww you know, like,
get over with it.
Speaker 2: It seems like malpractice.
Speaker 1: At this point. This guy's gonna and I know it's
still just like a chat, but like, and people still
like what trick.
Speaker 2: Watch his fucking media that he did this week.
Speaker 1: The guy's a star, like he did great, Like this
is his first big water out there. He's doing great.
Put a whatever title, put it on him. Let him
have some fun with it. But yeah, so we went
throughout as we mentioned, Paul got multiple eliminations, We had
two chamber run ins. We had a fake mass men,
which I don't understand, Like I get it what ended
up happening, but like the door is open for elimination
and the mass man tries to climb the cage, which
you can't get in, but he's trying to climb, so
it's a diversion so Seth can get in.
Speaker 2: That's the big reveal. He curb stomps logan.
Speaker 1: Paul costs him that and we'll stop right there and then
we'll return back to their stuff. So before we when
we did the last pod, we did not have the
news that braun Breaker was injured. Obviously the ideas they
hope he's back, but I feel like that's maybe gone
away because it felt like, oh, hey, he's gone for
a few weeks. Then it's like, well, I don't know,
so I guess we have Seth who's going out to
get revenge on the Vision on two members who weren't
even a part of the Turn, you know, Like I
don't think it's as bad as this, but the Vision
is definitely in this decade the equivalent to Aw's like
devil storyline of like all the injuries that have plagued
this of like MGF and Adam Cole constantly turned back
and forth like oh he's a baby face.
Speaker 2: Down, No, he's a baby face. It's like, why does
Seth care?
Speaker 1: Like even if he's back, right, why is he not
just attacking Paul Hayman? Why does he care to go
after Logan Paul or Austin? Thing Like it'd be different
if it was that night bron Breaker they pulled the
Edge judgment day thing right where Finn Balor turned he
joined the group and they beat the rap Edge and
it's like, Okay, that makes sense. Bron's is nothing against
these people, Like there's nothing to do with these two
guys and them like I gotta stop the Vision. I
care so Man I said this in the discord. If
they do Logan Paul Cefron two, I bet you unless
they add they gotta add a stip because that crowd
I think is gonna be quiet. That's one of the
most like sauceless wrestleman matches of all time. Like they
gotta add something to this. But yeah, David, what do
you think is going on?
Speaker 2: What do you what do you do with this mess
of Oviusly, it's not their fault, even Bronson reading stuff
like Okay, I could see how you could get there,
that they could put on a good match.
Speaker 1: They've done that before. But alvisoly We I forgot to
mention that too. Bronson tore his biceps, so fuck man.
Worse luck ever for him right now. He just came
back from injury.
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you do with this mess?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 3: They've they've got a whole lot of chaos in their hands.
And like to your point earlier, I don't agree with
and I don't see why they had Logan Paul go
all super Saiyan and just start eliminating people. And right again,
this is an elimination match, so this smart thing to
do as the heel would be to kind of sit
back in the corner or like hiding a pot or
somewhere like finishing and they're about to pin someone else.
You don't have to steal the pin like. It doesn't
behoove you to to get extras like it just it
didn't make sense. Then you had to build up just
for the elimination on there and the other thing that
seemed weird, all right, so we had I think it
was two years ago when Logan Paul was the one
who snuck who came back in after the cage was left.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started it's twenty twenty three, because I've
seen a stupid tweet going around of long term storytelling.
It's like, no, this is not what this means.
Speaker 4: They had a man already because of that litt.
Speaker 1: What's over happened.
Speaker 3: But the point that I want to make with that
is why are you guys leaving the cage open so
long that people are being able to enter in or
come back in. Because now you just left the cage.
Speaker 6: Open, you had all you had, all these referees, all
the referees are outside and Drew McIntyre just saunters in
someone a belt and then they have all this.
Speaker 3: No one jumps in to stop this. No one is like, Drew,
get out of here. They're all just sitting there watching.
Speaker 4: All the referees are distracted by the first mass fan.
They're all surrounding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta take like.
Speaker 4: Fifty referees holding like the mask man and Adam Pears
holding him down.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, and there's no other security after the
fact that, Yeah, yeah, he just works here. I gain,
I guess, I guess that's the thing, right, they're probably
in ky. They well could be a fan, So we
gotta we gotta get them out of there, you know.
Speaker 3: So, but all this whole they're stuck in the chambers.
Anyone really stuck in this chamber because people were just
walking in all willy nilly.
Speaker 1: No, well, it's like the hell in the cell now, right,
Like you can get out of that so much now.
So so yeah, David, do you run?
Speaker 2: If no bron offously no Bronson, do you just run?
Paul and Rolands And.
Speaker 3: I think at this point you kind of have to.
You've booked yourself into a corner with this. Hopefully Rollins
is good enough to compete and he's not just doing
one of these we've run out of options. We got to
bring you back a couple of weeks early type deals
because you have the the vision has been so cursed
and everything else that this is just what they have
to do at this point. With that, it makes no
no sense, but hey, let them let him run it now,
because I guess that that's the only option that you have.
I'm also wondering with the fallout of the Chamber, how
they now have Drew versus Cody coming up on SmackDown,
Like is this going to be building up towards a
triple threat or a fatal four way at WrestleMania. I mean,
you already had a triple threat for one championship last
year's WrestleMania. Are you going to do another triple threat
this WrestleMania. It's sure all seems overly complicated for no reason.
Speaker 4: There's nothing gonna be like a bunch of run ins
and stuff like on the Cody match. I mean, I
don't think so the thing is like, well, with Randy
winning now, like for him, like he has a shot
at WrestleMania, so I think the thing will be like
he he'll be like, oh, like I don't really care
who has the title, like at WrestleMania, I'm gonna win,
So I don't think he'll be one of the ones
to like interfere in the No.
Speaker 1: I think his his character stuff is gonna actually come
post Mania, because I think what's gonna happen is they.
Speaker 4: Either back in that sixth Way match.
Speaker 2: Him and Cody relive that stare down and everything.
Speaker 1: But that's the final too. But no, I think with Randy,
I think his character movations can come. Act me. I
I think that the Four Way at least if I
think that's what they're gonna get. There for talking about
that now, I think they are gonna do that. It
They could easily Louke Harper Jacob faughto discord, but I
don't think so. I think he's been storyline enough and
he's got the gas right now. Put him in there.
But at least with the Four Way, if they do
that Mania, I could actually see any of them winning that.
I could see someone waking up that more and be
like fuck it. Just put on Jacob, like let's get
a like especially we don't know what night that's on,
but like if something happens, if they feel like on
night one, yes, yeah, if they feel something like you
know what people like, Let's say they have a couple
of bad smackdunes or they just stuff. They want a
big angle going into tonight too. Jacob winning that does
that right where Cody in Vegas, I don't know, but
you could still do that. It's a four way. I
think you masked like the booze a bit better. Randy
could easily like legit, I think he could win. He
could do that, and then I think Drew could, which
is so stupid because like that means you have to
lose still three more times, Ran like you have to
like the It never makes sense that logic. I want
to become a seventeen time world champion unless he's like,
I gotta win the dirty title too. But and even then,
if it's not, I think it will be the main event.
But if it's not the main event of Night one,
Drew could easily retain that. He could easily just do
what Paul did, right, So I think it gives him
so much more options. But I think for Randy, what
will happen is I think he'll be like cool, nonchalant
in a little pistol up Domania if he doesn't win though,
and especially if Cody wins, that's where the heel Randy's
gonna happen, because it's like I won the Chamber. I
supposed to go one on one match. This became a four way.
I fucking lost and it's your fault. So I think
unless for some reason they're just like, yeah, I have
Randy win it, which I don't think they will.
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be the actual sort of.
Speaker 1: Randy being a heel again, and he'll use his opportunity
of and it's kind of like a it's justified, right.
We can't say he's wrong because he don't want to match,
and then all these dudes just get added to his
title match, like yeah, like that doesn't make anything, Like
it makes sense in wrestling wise, but for as a character,
be like what happened, especially if Cody wins. The only
thing I'd say is don't do that turn the same
like the SmackDown WrestleMania, because the people will cheer Randy
turning on Cody. You have to wait like a couple
of weeks or do like the Kevin Owen Cody Rhoades
backstage fight whe Randy like attacks him elsewhere, because if
he r Ko's co and they're still in Vegas or
someone around there, Randy's no, heal then he's the fucking
babyface you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I do wonder, Like I was joking
about it, but I could see like Alster Black being
like like the carrying cross of this situation where he
doesn't actually get a match, but he's like because this
was like because this was like like like Randy winning
this match was like following that storyline still because basically
like him and Zelina were like, oh, like once you're
in there where Cody, like, will you be like man
enough to like actually you like pull the trigger on him?
And he and he did r KO. So yeah, but
what they are, what they were building is like the punt,
Like Alster wants wants Randy to punt Cody.
Speaker 1: Even the way Cody after the match Randy won, the
way Cody was on his knees. I thought, yeah, I
thought Randy was gonna just put the whole hoots on.
But they're saying that's what I think could be the
the SmackDown after Maye.
Speaker 2: But again, I think he's just gonna get.
Speaker 1: A pop for I think like the more effective route, like.
Speaker 4: Like the manium match to like if it's like a
three or four way, that can be like the spot
to like take out Cody, or it could be.
Speaker 1: And that would be smart to give Cody some time off,
and then Cody could come up like, hey, you kind
of cross the line by punting like I thought we
were still good, Like that's not really cool and stuff
or in my opinion, as much as like, I love Cody,
but I think there's a culmination of many things.
Speaker 2: I think mostly are booking.
Speaker 1: I think some people get a little tired because it's
he's been the main event lot. But I think lots
of the booking of they put him in bad situations.
I would do their verse, and I would My fantasy
book is I would love Jacob to win the title WrestleMania,
and you have Randy punt Jacob at SmackDown, and then
you because Randy will actually get heat for that, right,
and then you rock with Jacob and Randy for a bit,
go and just give Cody some time off. That's not
gonna happen. I just think what happens is Cody wins
the four Way, people are bitter about it, and then
they have Randy turn like this' is a good idea,
and then Randy had and then Cody and Randy are
gonna wrestle for like three to four months with Cody
cut these fucking babyface promos while he gets booed, and
it's like I just see the writing all on the wall,
Like that's where it's like Randy winning last night was good,
but it's like it's just like delaying what I think
is the inevitable. It's like we were talking about with
the Rumble right with I Suppo, as you said at
one point, which I agree with. You thought Paul go last,
but obviously Rawlins was in there, and I said, it's
in the Rumble. They use this with Drew or knockamoora
when Big Dog Roman was getting those neigger reactions. If
they had someone new winning the Rumble, They're like, have
him throw out Roman because they knew they get the
pop right, even if people weren't completely in love with
knockamore yet, it's like, well, they just don't want Roman.
So that's why I just feel like, But the thing
is Rome would still go and win the chamber whin
someone else and he's still getting that restumeate title shot.
That's the thing I feel with Cody, it's gonna be like, oh,
well he's not winning it now. Yeah, but then what's
gonna happen April, you know whatever, eighteenth or nineteenth. I
don't know, but I think I think, I think that's
the route we're going. But uh, yeah, I suppose what
about the anything more on obviously suspecting and stuff, anything.
Speaker 2: More on, uh and the vision and what's going on.
Speaker 4: There, like what they'll do at Mania?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just where what at a at A five?
What is your interest level on Rowlin's logan?
Speaker 4: Paul, it's like a medium match like one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like.
Speaker 4: Rather see versus Austin, I would.
Speaker 1: Rather see Seth versus Paul Hayman in a three minute
squash match. I would be fine with the match. It
just rang the bell. Ron's stomped him three times, and
Paul took a break on TV for like six months
and then like freshen him up, like and then he
comes back with Bronson and bron Breaker.
Speaker 4: I like Seth and the USOS versus theory logan.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: That's more interesting.
Speaker 1: And make it like a street fight, like make it
like a like a anarchy.
Speaker 4: Arena, like the hell in the So match with with Punk.
I think he has one that's like it's secondly a handicap.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, right back, and it's it's him and
Hayman on top of the hell in the cell.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so weird too, because they build up
this big angle like punks eventually go the cell. No
one in the right mind thinks Paul's taking an actual
cell bump, but the entire audience is thinking he's taking
a cell bump. So when he just kindles him to death,
it the reaction is just so like little because it's like, oh,
that's it, like just a kindostick, Like I thought you're
gonna toss this guy off the roof.
Speaker 2: But they should have never went up there.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I'd be more because again like so
what like Roman guilleted him, and then I think Punk
like clothesline Paul once, like Paul's not got like any
come up and from last year's menial and yeah, in
the in the team, I think Paul especially and some
of this is not his fault, right with the vision,
but like I think and brocks around. But I think
it would do good for everybody if you kind of
wrote Paul him on the character of but Austin he's
still backstage doing stuff. But that's why I'd say it's
just fine, do Austin do Austin Theory and Paul Hayman
versus whatever, like, because I'm trying to think of like
even a tag team, right, like, who could you?
Speaker 2: The only thing the only thing.
Speaker 1: That can juice this up, the only thing that can
get there, and I don't even happen if it's Awesome
Theory and Loane Paul versus Rowland's and Bad Bunny. That
is the only way that I cannot believe I'm saying this.
You know I love Bad Bunny. Now, I didn't know
who he was when he started wrestling last year. My
most stream artists, I cannot be saying.
Speaker 4: That the old Melser, he had no idea who who is?
Like why are they putting this guy on the show?
No one knows this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't that. I always get where they've been,
but I Vigimy had not hurt a Bad Bunny before
until wrestling and then after the fact. But you know what,
that's a sad thing where the only thing they'll get
me excited for this match is if we have Bad
Bunny as Rowland's take part and at least it's like, Okay,
do a stip. It's a celeb spot. You can have
Bad Bunny beat up Paul Haman, like, there's tons of
fun stuff you could do there, but man rawlins and Paul.
I just I can see the crowd now. I can
see the people going to get their merch. I can
see that, like because it's you've already done it maybe
and this is just like and it's not like a
rolling Brock where it's like, Okay, I get it. They're
two main eventners. I guess you'll do it again. It's
like and I get here too.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I guess my suggestion was Honestly, I've said this for
a while. They need them, I guess because they're losing people,
but roll and should not come back until after Mania,
like just have them sit for a while and just
wait until Bram's back or something for him to do.
Not not this. But yeah, I guess we're gonna get this.
I think s pubs. If there's no Bad Bunny, is
there like one stip that they could get this? I
would make it exciting for you at least because I
feel the match.
Speaker 4: Needs like like if it's a set, and Logan.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, it was just straight up them because I
think if it's one on one, that match is, like
I said, I feel like that's a bathroom break match
for people.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like maybe like a false count anywhere
or something like they like throws them off the stage
or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do something, should do some they should find
some stupid like boneyard match, but it's like a new
match where it's like it's never been done, like something
like uh like Orange casterpers Jericho and like the fucking
Orange Plunge match or something. Prime Prime, Yeah, yeah, do
a dumpster match. But it's like, yeah, exactly Prime. Yeah,
like you said, yeah, maybe it ransom looks like blood
someone you'rs like like look.
Speaker 2: How blood is? Yeah, do something stupid like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was like that's like the like the
Orange Momosa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jericho's jacket God died and they talked about
it for a whole year and stuff. David any stiff,
what what stick would you give this.
Speaker 3: Injured Rolin still is you might have to do a
a false count anywhere or some version of that so
that you can have them go to the back and
go to other areas and that be pre taped so
that it's not all on Rollin's and that.
Speaker 4: Are they just do like a like a finisher span
like even like wrestling forty like when he was like
he had like he had like like a tory acl
to like if you I like that Drew match, but
if you go watch it like the old like he
doesn't wrestle like the only Moosie does in that match,
he does like fifteen pedigrees, ten stumps, and that's like
all the the only Moosi does in that match.
Speaker 1: It sucks too, like all signature moves are all like
lag oriented too, like pedigree, blunt force, trauma on the knees,
stomp you're coming down your knees like He's like, man,
I should have had a sleeper or something like that's
like go with their smartest man his two finishes like
I don't even finish, but really it's a power bomb,
so someone else is taking the bump and then the
sleeper like so such an easy even snaw right FtF
SD like easy. I ain't getting hurt all the rollands,
No wonder why Rawlins is getting hurt all the time.
He's taking these high impact moves all the time. But yeah, yeah, David,
I think that's actually not a bad pitch. If he's
like we're if it's like a you're like cleared, but
it's like a very loose clear that's probably as smart
that you can protect him and you know what, Hey,
I'm the maybe the biggest defender of the in the world.
Run back edge and Ranny oron with ezef Logan for
yeah fall, let's do it, get him backstage, let him
go for forty last standing.
Speaker 3: On top of the bus and gym.
Speaker 4: You know. It was like sort of like like cinematic
matches play like in front of a crowd, because there
haven't been that many that really like like the only
ones I can think of that have been like I
think it was the first, No, it was the second
stadium stampede before it became anarchy in the arena was
like half cinematic, and then they came to like like
they fought from the stadium to the arena and then
like the ending of it was like in front of
a crowd. Yeah, but I don't really know how much
that plays where it's like, oh, you're just like watching
a screen half the match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I agree.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I guess with Mania, right, so
I think probably a Fisher's BAM or some weapons or
like I said, it just it sucks that there's no
one unless they're they have bad Bunny in the pocket.
It sucks that there's no one. You know, This is
why I wish these companies are on better terms because Triple.
But if they're on better terms, Triple I should sit down,
call up TK and be like, you know, what what
can I get? People want it? Forty?
Speaker 2: What can I get from Mosley?
Speaker 1: No? What can I get for John Moxley? One night?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What what do you need from me?
Speaker 1: And also the answer is CM punk versus Kenny Omega
and boom, You're done all in cmpunk versus Kenny Omega
WrestleMania Shield Reunion. You know you know how much that
place would fuck there? Look at Dan Houise, some poor
guy because I also thought was Jericho. You know that
fucking pop Maks we get imagine it comes in one
night beats Auestome theory because guess what awesome theory or
no it was easy three right? Fuck awesome theory beats
they beat him? Yeah, he goes back. You know he
doesn't have to be right. You can play the John
Moxley theme, give him the hoodie. But uh yeah, I
I guess said. I honestly would have just had Seth sit.
Speaker 2: But I get it because so many injuries, they just
need to star power. So I get it.
Speaker 1: It's just this this wrestled me a lot of Like
I think there's self inflicted wounds and there's not self
inflicted wounds, and that's where we get to the uh well,
I was gonna say to the women's anything else on
the men's chamber, we didn't mention her talk about in scenarios.
Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna last longer and that that's sad.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought.
Speaker 1: You're gonna last cut David, your WiFi cuts in and
out sometimes. That's where we didn't hear that.
Speaker 3: All right, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Now we can hear you. I think it like comes
and gotcha that I was.
Speaker 3: I was saying that, Yeah, it's uh ice storming outside
right now. I just looked out the window. I thought
Javon was gonna last longer, and I was hoping that
he was gonna last longer and have more spots jump
off some more ship. But that's the only thing that
said about that.
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna do the climb.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna do the Dragon or the
Calisto and climb the top, but he didn't.
Speaker 4: So as for anything else, I guess just l A. Knight,
you know, he's getting that that unreal moment again in
the back, sitting him down, showing him that clip white
his title foot title, but has been delayed.
Speaker 1: I love I saw someone like it was like a
Copia meme where they showed that Finn also slipped in
the ropes and like, look, it wasn't his fault. That
spot is like just super shiny. But yeah, I think, well,
I guess we don't know because I guess we can
put this in here. Not that they care too much,
but like at one point it was rumored was okay,
it's gonna do Brock and Oba. Months like earlier, there's
talks about brock and Gun there, and then there was
even talks which to me terrible matchup of l A.
Nine brock Lester, which to.
Speaker 4: Me sounds like like Ambrose versus Rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has some bad potential. So clearly they haven't
decided they're gonna do an open challenge. I don't know.
I don't know why you don't just like I guess
we'll have to wait and see it just ends up
being OBA. I don't know why you just don't announce
that before. I think they still I could get.
Speaker 4: Like the because they announced it, like the dates he's
gonna be on the show, But it's not just gonna
be like he wats the ring. Yeah, says like someone
come out to fight me. No one comes out for
like five weeks, and then at Mania someone comes out
or is the person gonna come out before? And then
the other appearances are like actual build to the match.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that's what it is, even if
it's just Oba destroying people like Dan House and Welcome
to w and then like you're getting them ready for Brock, right,
like this idea, like if we really have nobody for Brock,
it's just him on the poster by himself with the
vacant guy, and then it's like who's gonna come out?
It's like, I don't know, because like at that point
it's like if you have Oba too, you make a
bigger start, like he can talk about the media, he
can get ready. But I feel like they're just trying
to make like a moment, so they want to be like, well,
who's it gonna because I think they liked what happened
with the Joe Hendry stuff last year, so and who knows,
maybe it'll be Who's a teena world champion right now?
Speaker 4: Right now, Santana's.
Speaker 1: So perfect, it's gonna be Santana. They'll run it back
again this year. They've got the same thing. Santana's gonna
get a two minute man Brock and then uh, Brock
should be the number one contender. But yeah, so that's happening.
We'll see. And then on the women's side, I don't
think much of a surprise for us, But like I
suppose you were talking about Discord, lots of people. I
guess we're convinced that Tiffany might win here, but I
don't even know what she's By day Saturday, it went
to like negative one thousand, Punk was negative ten thousand.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, match.
Speaker 1: If someone was just hoping like Filn was gonna accidentally
pin him like Blake Monroe style and get a bunch
of money, but uh, yeah, I don't know what Tiffany
is gonna be doing. But yeah, we got the Women's rumble, big.
Speaker 4: Small on the SmackDown before me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're probably right, which is quite the step down.
Speaker 2: But you got uh who's it was? James and Tiffany
at Sarvice.
Speaker 1: Tiffany just becoming you know, we're talking about John Moxley
becoming Mick Foley taking bump after bump looked like she
mighte a broker nose if not just maybe some Carlage
got James who got like a man of highlight here,
and then you had re Ripley getting the win. Espos.
What do you think of the Woe's Chamber and some
of these storylines that emerged after the fact.
Speaker 4: I really liked the Woman's Chamber. Uh, I'd say it
was probably my favorite match to the night. I'd say
I really enjoyed it. I thought, like, I think just
from when Oscar came in, like the first person out
of the pot, I thought it really picked up from
there like she was just like because I feel like
in a lot of triple threats, it feels like it's
just like a singles match with like or like even
multi person matches in general, it'll feel like it's just
kind of one per like a one V one and
then some people are like dead on the outside for
a while. Yeah, but I liked that Oscar was like
fighting like both Tiffany and Keana like at the same time.
Like she would be like punching and like kicking someone
at the same time or throwing them against each other.
And I really liked that in general, in this chamber,
it felt like it was kind of everyone fighting each
other at the same time.
Speaker 1: I also liked this start when Oscar came upon and
Keana just like speared her right away. I enjoyed that.
That was good.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Out of the four matches, it was probably my favorite
as well. I'm not as familiar with Keana because I
only sparingly watched n XT. You know, she's a recent
call up, but I was like that she she looked
good in this match. She looked prepared in this match.
She had some fun spots. I liked a lot of
the other women's spots. Man Tiffany took some some bumps.
She she was bumping her ass off, like the back
handspring into the chamber where she fell and hit on that,
and like she had a couple others where I was
just like, man, this this girl is putting it all
on the line.
Speaker 2: She's not gonna let you.
Speaker 3: Talk about she's just a pretty blonde after this, like
she she's going full force. I thought it was fun.
Rhea winning was predictable, especially after this I'm losing the
tag titles, but it was it was still a good match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of what we thought. I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know they just kind of paining themselves in
their corner.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. Last year, I was.
Speaker 1: All in the Ria Live Morgan thing, and I'll give
Spubs credit, which is end up be in trouble that
but I suppose, like I think they're doing EO and
ream Like, I just don't see them giving Yo that spot.
She gets that spot, wins big highlight. So this year
when I subs tell me they're gonna be one, I'm like, yeah,
I'm all for it. Let's let's do I'm all for
REANNYO this year one on one. Yeah, to do the
Sean John Cena the Ray Eddie have the two take
team champions, just finally decide whose best singles, right and
now I dropped this title and even Ri on the
post like, yeah, we're not gonna be a team, like
we'll have each other's backs, but we're gonna take a
little break. So it's just like it was just to
keep them busy, which is fine. We kind of heard that, right,
and I just feel like it's almost in reverse where
I still stand by Now. Granted, I can't take it
away because I don't want to lose EO Beyonce Andria
from last year, right, so I can't do that, but
it just feels like would live winning the rumbles spot
that should have been elsewhere. I just and it's so
strange too, where we heard rumblings about.
Speaker 2: Oh trip a shit.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the future, right, but it's like he
views Stephanie versus Rie as a wrestling a main event,
and it's like the setups right there for where Stephanie
is the title, Rio won the chamber and they're not
doing that, And okay, so we're doing Ria and Jade,
which I get because we talked about where it soundly
is gonna be hear in Bianca and Ria is the
next Bee's choice for like a big start. At the
same point, I I actually still just push back against it.
I feel like I'd still rather have Rio and Io
and then maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: Doing this now. I still felt the way to go
was a multi.
Speaker 1: Woman with Jae, because I felt that would have projected
Jade Ria is gonna This is like, this is definitely
Jade's biggest test on Mania. I think everything I think
the from the program to the match, they're gonna be
watching her with a fine like like the like the monocle,
Like they're gonna be like have their either because if
she stumbles or if that match doesn't deliver, I can
see Jay like she's gonna get bumped down and Rihea's
gonna I'm not saying James useless something. I'm just saying
that she's in the She's not versus Naomi. She's on
a mid card match WITHSS. Okay, you guys in a
stip match, right, this is like gonna be a marquee match.
You're gonna be on the poster. This is gonna be
like the SmackDown Woman's main event, right. You have to
have a good match, and that's where for me it's
it could.
Speaker 4: Be like for me with Jade, it's like I think
they kind of like in trying to protect her or
like what they think she can't do. I think they
she can do more than what they let her do.
I think you put her there with like good workers
and give them time. Like even like the Jordan Grace
match that was probably not a super long match, I
mean like ten fifteen minutes at most, but like she was,
it was a good match, and she just let them.
Like if all she's doing is like two minute squash
matches against like beefab, like, you're not gonna look good.
Like I think if you if you put her in
there with Ria and just give them time, like it'll
be a good match, and just like let them just
like just hit each other as hard as possible, just
like if they just like like what you're saying, like
just have them just like hitting each other out there
and doing power bombs.
Speaker 1: And big meeting woman match like that type of yeah.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, because like I think it's
on purpose that Rhea has like toned up. She gets
to be like she's been doing like Luc's stuff. He'll
say this, like she can be more like the smaller
person here. It's just like I just wonder if they're
like trying to sell tickets and move stuff. I just
wonder if Jade's on that level because I agree with
you that Jade can do more. I just don't know, like,
are people gonna be excited for this match? The good
thing is I will wait till predictions when we get there.
I actually don't know who's gonna win. I could see
that being like a weekend decision of I feel like
if Jade and presses, they're gonna keep going.
Speaker 2: But if they feel like she kind of it reminds.
Speaker 1: Me very much of Charlotte versus Tiffany last year, where
it was felt like this would kind of go either
way if they want to teach Tiffany a lesson here
or like Cementer, which if they cement he and she's
on WrestleMania, I don't know what the point was, but
I get it. Just it's gonna be It's gonna be
an interesting build and match. Dave, Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to the WrestleMania version of the match,
just because they haven't. They haven't really let them. They
haven't let Jade go all out to where we can
see if this is going to be truly a good
match or not. I mean, she's she's had good moments,
she's also had some kind of spotty moments. I do
think Ria is the type who can carry her with
some spots, especially like the strong person spots, if they
don't go well. I think that Ria is limber enough
to go with the flow of some of those big moments,
and also she can go with the flow of if
there's a boss, she can roll out of it into
another strong woman's spot in things.
Speaker 2: Well, look at her.
Speaker 1: Her and Alexa did that last night, right, They got
miss timed and they didntroduce sister Abigail and Ria. I
don't know who screwed up, but she was on the
opposite side. But they were smart. They turned it and
then they did like the try to go rip tide.
But for a while it was like, oh, like what
do we I can't rip chord this way, You're here stuck.
And then so but she is like she's like it's
weird to call her like a seasoned vet, but she
is now and people post that thing of like all
the media matches like she's like between this Charlotte or
the triple at Charlie Shake. She's had the big like
she is the the like I'm waiting if she wins
for the Ria Hogan stuff. To start, but it's like, no,
that's why you cemented her because you knew in the
next decade she's gonna be the person that leads this division.
So it's like she is a person, and go, okay,
we we still think there's like we think of the
Jade has potential, right, all this you gotta go out
there and make us like you're still part of the equation.
Can't all be on Jade, right, be like, go, well,
she completely screws us. That's where the joke was sewn.
Miles have a match with a broomstick, right, And that's
why because Okay, you put Sean there with anybody, he's
gonna at least get you to a three point five.
And that's where I'm not sure if Ria can do
that with everybody. But like when you are a top person,
you kind of have to have that capability or you
just have to be like an amazing talk or that. Okay,
even than that just kind of meant once you're in
the arena, you're selling tickets, right, which Jade, I think
it's kind of neither.
Speaker 2: But Riea's a bit of both of those.
Speaker 1: So that's where it's I'm curious what they do for
seven weeks of build with this and then same with
the other thing. We I guess we didn't talk about
we knew it was gonna happen, but Live did pick.
Stephanie Vakir, I've liked the two segments. I like the Turn,
and I've I don't. I don't know if I buy
so much of the because that's what I saw you
talking about with a couple of people, the like the
the idea of Stephanie's saying that Live was hand and
everything where it's just like, I don't know, I feel
like Live Morgan was sometimes like weeks away from release,
you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like I buy kind of what she's saying.
Speaker 1: As far as being the indie daring coming here, I
just I don't know if that's the like the indie
wrestler coming in doing John Cena bad. I don't know
if that's gonna make me excited for this if like
that's what Stephanie does, if like Live Morgan bad, like
she like she just want her first rumble, like you
could have done that with Riha really like Ria is
the one that since she got to even nx t UK,
she's had a rock on her fucking ass maybe the lead.
There's a one WrestleMania her and Lived team together was
in the TEG division. That was it. Ever since then
it was Charlotte Awesome, the tag match, Charlotte again, Becky
the triple like she's been the person we'll live She's
never even had a singles match at me, So I
think that's the only thing where I can get the WWS.
Beck is just that's where maybe it has to be
somebody Charlotte, Rhea and I think Live in Stephanie could
actually be very very good quality wise. I just don't
know if the story is gonna sell me on it
yet so far, but I like the turn segments.
Speaker 3: So those Live in XT days were not good at all.
They were rough, Yes, she was at all. She was
discount Alexa Bliss.
Speaker 1: That was everyone talked about how she's the the lesser
version of Alexa Bliss. Why do you have her? You
already got Alexa Bliss and they're very much different. But
it's just like she was the the yeah yeah yo,
the Jersey girl gimmick with the suspenders was it was.
It was rough and even the main roster like I
feel like her the call.
Speaker 3: She was like one of the lesser knowns of that
call up spree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Riot squad wasn't a great say.
Speaker 4: I think the reason like so, I think the reason
you got caled was literally like they were doing the
women's the first Women's Rumble, and they needed thirty well
on the track.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did that, and the Riot squad was nothing.
It was just a vehicle for Ruby Riot at the time,
and that didn't even work. They didn't care. And then
for months she was like, what Live or what's her name?
Lana's secret lover and they did that whole rustive Bobby
Lashy forward sort of like she I forgot about that
Bobby and Lana were getting married and someone at jets
and at first they the camera makes it look like
Liz talking about Bobby, but then they shifted and she's like, you, bro,
even recently, Lived was like, what's one thing in your
career you like regretted on? It's like I didn't like
being a part of that wedding gimmick, you know, like
that's the thing where it's like Live's not been like
I guess.
Speaker 4: If I heard correct, I don't think like I don't
think it even went like I think she did that
and then like that never went anywhere, Like.
Speaker 1: With I think they yeah, I think they did something
a little bit the next week, and then they just
dropped it. And I don't even know why they did that.
Speaker 4: And that was also like the last raw of twenty nineteen,
like that was the main events.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Vincent's worst.
Speaker 2: One of the main event segments was Bobby and Austin
Theory doing.
Speaker 1: A muscle pop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the last crazy raw like before he gets
the before he.
Speaker 1: Got crazy stuff. And that's where I need to remind
myself sometime when I watched you, I'm like, oh, that
was all right show. It's like I'm still just watching
w W. Now there was a time where it's like
I can't even watch that. So that's where just even
with Live Winning the Rumble, they sometimes they point as like, oh,
she finally did it. It's not like the she did
it again. So that's where I just I want to
see where they go with the story. And I'm not
out yet, but like I like that she was getting upset,
so but again, I don't think that's like a as
much as I like those women, I don't think it's
like a ticket seller. I don't know if like Living
Stephanie's the matchup. People are like, oh man, and I
guess this is a full trass conspiracy theory. There's part
of me that wonders if there's less like big mainstream
women matches, so like things like yeah, that so Cody
get main event, Like I just feel like you if
you have something bigger there, which I don't know what
it could be. I still think me and Stephanie is
bigger than both these matches, but I don't know, And
maybe they'll find a way. I don't know if the
foreway needs the main event either if it's just Cody winning.
But uh, I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2: Is there anything on that er, like.
Speaker 4: What like the other women's matches besides the ones that
are like already confirmed confirmed, Yeah, be like because honestly,
because we have ously Live and Stephanie and now Rihe
and Jade, those are like locked in there. The graphics
are there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we get a Drew Randy graphic at all?
Speaker 4: They didn't put it on the show, but on the
post show there was one, but it wasn't It wasn't
like a full screen one. It was like at the
bottom ta like it had like the Wrestlingia logo and
like Drew and Randy, but that was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well then you got do you think they're
gonna do you on Julia A Mania?
Speaker 4: I think because that was like I think it was
the boo who said I think that you like asked
about why that mattress canceled and he said, like they'll
usually tell him if it's like an injury or something,
and they said they just said creative reasons, which usually
means they're doing this match on someplace bigger and they
can't sl it. So I feel like I feel like
that might have been like that specific week was when
they decided Rio was winning Chamber and then matches Julia Mania.
Now the both with the titles gimmick at the end
of the show, I have wrestlinga twenty footage again.
Speaker 1: Both it's just the US title. I don't know, not
the same, but uh no, I just hope they get
on that card. I really do, because if if there's
a WrestleMania and one if Julie's not on the card. Again,
I don't think Julia's den in the water yet, but
it's like you sit on the card, it's like close
enough if Tiffany and EO are both on like the
SmackDown and Rasformania. That's like, I think that hurts you
as a watcher because you know, oh the people last
year that had massive manias with Tiffany getting the win
on Charlotte and e WO being in both Ria and Bianca.
They can't even be on the main show, Like that's
where if he was on the main show. Yes, Tell,
that's fine, that's completely fine. It's a step down, but
that's still fine that show. She's like she can be
on the main show. Tiffany, I just don't see a place.
But I just really hope for both their sakes it's
on there. And then I just imagine you're gonna get
like a Schmorgan's board tag match, right of, like Lash
and Naya and then Charlotte, Alexa, Lyra and Bailey, Rox
and Riquel if Rocks is good, and then yeah, the
bell was I.
Speaker 4: Don't know if Rocks and Raquel, I mean yeah, I
mean I feel like she could be back, but i'd
a minimum probably Yeah, the Lash and Ia, Bailey, Lyra,
the Bella's and uh oh Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm telling you, I don't care. I'll stand
by it unless someone changes hashtag. Dress told you Bells
are winning that fucking match. They're giving him that manium moment.
I'm telling you they're gonna get even if they lose,
even if they lose their row after, I'm telling you
they wanted.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do it at Mania if.
Speaker 4: That match has the AA off the ladder to someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what.
Speaker 4: Versus Becky. I assume they'll do like I could see
him doing like.
Speaker 1: Becky Losers should never challenge for the title.
Speaker 4: Ever, something like, especially since they've done the whole tapping
out gimmick a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, we just talked about that
match now. Yeah, Like I said, opening uh fun for
age to get the moment wasn't a car wreck, but
wasn't complete there. I think that that's the thing. Obviously,
she wouldn't be wrestling on house show. I forgot to
mention that we were talking about Jad and Rhea where
people have brought up where house shows not being around.
That's a match that they could have worked out before Mania,
and you could have it where now you don't, right,
I don't know if a JB were a house.
Speaker 4: Shows, put Jade on on those house shows there. I
think her last two house show matches was she injured
Befam and then they put and then they replaced her
with mee Chin and then she injured me Chin on
the last two for you Jay.
Speaker 1: Damn. But yeah, I I guess some of two minds.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: After seeing this, at first, I was like, I hate
that they're doing this before Mania. It loses that luster
again because we already have so many At one point
when we thought we were getting Cody and Drew, Okay, Cody
and Drew, Seth and Logan. This it's like it's rematch Mania.
There's one I can't remera. There's one Mania that is
rematch mania. I'd have to find it. But it's like
in the twenties where it's just a bunch of matches
that happened before. I agree with that. I think a
stip is need here have some fun with that. I
didn't even know if it's like a weapon step at something.
But yeah, this is just like it's just what it is.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Aj Is hasn't wrestled in thirteen years and all shit
was that tag match, which I think that match was
like heavily choreographed. And I'm someone that liked that tag match.
I didn't even know. I had to ask that suppose.
I didn't know how people really disliked that match. I
enjoyed it, but like, I think this was maybe too
long as well. In my opinion, they could have shorten
it a little bit. But I hope it. Maybe it'll
be a better outing. But it was for the moment, right,
It's for Asia to win and for them to hold
up the titles. They got what they wanted. So it
was a fine enough start. It's like, to me, like
a fine three. But uh, yeah, what do you think dude?
Speaker 3: I yeah, it was middle of the road match. There
were some fun spots. There were also some some weirdness
to it. I am not a fan of the constant
use of the ref that they had in that match,
Like it felt like they were overdoing it. You had
the first ref bump, then you had she she didn't.
Speaker 1: Which was she didn't take the for his bump. What
happened there? Did she forget or did that was that plan?
Because she they did the thing where Becky like ran
into her and then just car was just like, oh,
like what happened? And then after Becky kicked her, So
I wonder if someone screwed up there on that bump
or not, because there's a scrip in the finish bump
to remember that they the clothesline, they stopped and they reset,
So there's a couple of weird ones.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I just kept, I know, like it's
been part of Becky's gimmick to complain about the ref
especially Jess Carr, and complained about some other things, but
it just felt like they kept going back to that
a little bit too much for this match. I think
the best that Aj looked in the match was when
they were on the outside and you know, she's throwing
her to the barricade and doing stuff like that. But
in the ring there there was a couple of uh
miscues and things like that. It also looked like she
had a little bit of trouble applying her finisher the
first time she did it. When the ref was down
and Becky tapped uh, it looked a lot neatter for
the finish, But the first time she did it, it
looked like she was just like still getting used to
getting into that stretch position.
Speaker 1: Again, I think that's Becky's fault actually, because people point
this on the tag match that Seth took the the
Black Widdle like perfectly, and every time it was on Becky.
Like the way Becky stands an, I think that's like
maybe she has like a joint injury or something and
she can't like fully extend.
Speaker 3: It's so shoulder pads in the outfit. It's the shoulder
pads in the outfit she was.
Speaker 2: Out which what a strange like it's not like a
knock or anything.
Speaker 1: The outfit that Becky was wearing was like she had
her classic like the single. It like trunks, but then
it was like a it morphed into a jacket, so
I thought she would take off like No, the trunks
and the jacket were like merged. I've never seen that
in wrestling, where's like a long sleeve zip jacket merged
with the shorts. It was a fascinating, uh design gear.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so now we're gonna run that. I assume
we're gonna run this back at WrestleMania with a large
stipulation on it.
Speaker 1: But personally I.
Speaker 3: Would have liked, like you said them to wait for
WrestleMania to do this match, but also get the fact
that they wanted the image of both of them in
Chicago with their belts and then seeing Punk got to
post the funny thing that he posted on Instagram with
the belts as a result, and Becky's saying that that
title needed to be disinfected after that.
Speaker 4: I want to the Instagram posts if you if you
went to like the tag like who was tagged on
the photo of Seth, and Becky.
Speaker 1: Says to it, just says, fucking having the wrestler and
Paul wrestleman. He's getting tagged and naked punk pictures my goodness.
Speaker 2: But and plus to your point when we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about them on the image, they're not getting that
image of Mania because again everybody lights romans win that
title kind of promo and then they're writing them off
the night after.
Speaker 3: He will give you Chicago, but you're losing at Mania.
Speaker 1: I suppose we were thought on this match any future thoughts.
Speaker 4: I was like, I did really like this match, And
for what you guys are saying, or David was saying,
how you thought the best Aj looked was like when
she was outside of the ring, I actually I actually
thought she did look really good in this match, just
like I thought the opening stuff when they were sort
of doing like like more technical type stuff, like with
all the counters and reversals. I thought that was really
good stuff near the start, just like all the pinfall
attempts and getting into different submissions and holds and stuff
like that. I think Becky is really good at that
sort of stuff. And they did point out on commentary like, oh,
this is what like aj Lee used to be like
the standout at this stuff in the women's division, but
now it's Becky. So I thought that the whole opening
portion of it. And yeah, I guess in general, I
thought aj did look good out there, and I thought
it was a fun match. I actually did like like
when they exposed like the turnbuckle, I was like, well,
that's gonna be like the finish right away and this
is it. I did like that it went longer than that,
like after that is when they got to the outside
and got the chair and and stuff like that. I
didn't like that, Like, I like that it went longer
than what I thought it was gonna be where it's like, oh,
she exposes the buckle and this is gonna be the
finish right here, and yeah, I'm curious for mania. I mean,
I do feel like it's just gonna be like a stip.
Like I said, I think if they did do like
an eye quit or something like that, I can get
it into more of like the plunder match territory, uh
and still probably end it with the submission, I assume.
So I don't really know if Becky is just gonna
win it back. I could see her maybe not like
just winning at like Backlash or something instead of that
Mania just.
Speaker 1: Step on there. There's no way could you imagine that
if we're if we're sitting there being Becky and AJ
that I quit match that made a a j Quinner
back man some words. So yeah, I agree with you
that I don't think it's like one hundred percent lock.
I just the only reason I lean that way, it's
just the amount of times we've seen AJ just feels like, now,
granted you could make the icy title part time that
they wanted, but I just amount of times we've seen
HER's like does she want.
Speaker 2: To win again?
Speaker 1: Then you're kind of expected you're gonna be seeing at
least a few raws or pl e's where. That's why
I feel like, yeah, maybe she could like win it
here do one match on Raw. That's why it sucks
rocksands her right now.
Speaker 4: But it's I think if she wrestles on RA before
Mania or like not rob Beforemanium, but like on a
raw before Mania, I would think she's losing at Mania.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's oh yeah, no, that's a good point. Yeah,
because like if.
Speaker 4: She wrestles Bailey on Raw and like retains the title,
then I would think she's like.
Speaker 1: Who why did she eliminate Becky Lynch at the Rumble?
What came of that? I'm not a weekly watcher, but
she doesn't interact with Becky Lynch at all? Really, right,
No icy towel shot, nothing.
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to think. I feel like there's one.
Speaker 2: I just saw kill Maxine on I think.
Speaker 4: I think there was one segment with like AJ Becky,
Maxine and Natty that kind of looked like they were
gonna do like a tag match, and then like after
that there wasn't a follow up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was during the Natalia phase, like since
she switched to Natty.
Speaker 4: Definitely, it was definitely after because.
Speaker 1: I thought it was after Rumble. Dudes fucking treating Natty
and Italia like Cactus Jack and Dude Love like like the.
Speaker 4: Three Faces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an Italian Knight Art, Natty and Natalia. There's
three different people. God damn, yeah no, we'll see. I'm
I'm ready for this few to be over. I am.
I know there's another. Anytime i'mm wrestling Twitter, I know
it's a big debate all time I am on outside.
I hate. Becky Lynch is a character I'm so done with.
Like and I know what I'm sick and tired of.
And people go, oh, well, she's parroting Trump. Oh, it's
a parody of this. I get it, we get it.
It's not it's not the like, oh I don't get
the joke. We all get the fucking joke. It's just
not funny. When I too, I was I hate It's
like the Deeky finished when I heard a j was
gonna be on WRAW and I tuned in because to
enterp Becky. And I'm watching Becky doing this like, oh
you just remembered, Like, I can't stand this at all.
Speaker 2: I have zero.
Speaker 1: This is the least interested I'm ben and Becky Lynch
since she was the last Kicker and she was dancing
the Irish jig music like get her back in the steam.
Speaker 4: Park, the last last Kicker, like a few days ago.
Speaker 1: She did perfect after me a reset, here we go.
I'll buy her shirt, But.
Speaker 2: Just like I have zero interest in this very over.
Speaker 1: The top sort of character, I guess, not very overtop
in the sense of like a Dan House or stuff.
I mean, like for what she's doing, I just I
just can't invest in it at all, and I just
feel like that it's very similar and I just I'm
kind of over it. So the only thing I hope
that comes from this is iss she were to lose
at Wrestling AJ, it would be some sort of character
shift or even totally the character down a bit. But
I don't think so. I think she's having a good time.
I feel like Pecky Lynch is Triple H is equivalent
to John Moxley for TK, where he's like, yeah, mox
And it's funny they're both have secondary titles just doing
whatever the fuck they want right now. It's the same
way of like Moxley last.
Speaker 4: Year wrestling El cloone on Dynahite.
Speaker 2: Hey, it was a good match.
Speaker 1: I actually liked it. But the thing is, there's this
this is boring, there's nothing going on, and Moxley first
half the Year, Last Year, Terrorists, last half Man. We
love John Moxley, he's the aceist promotion back to fuck
what's he doing? We're doing nothing here and that's.
Speaker 4: Funny Okada and going for the trio's belt.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw I just like and again and
all these promos, everyone's holding the fucking title. It's like,
what's going on? And why is hangman? I'm I kind
of hope they win because I feel like they can
add some drama, but again, like a well table later,
but like, what was the point of everything with they'll
call into Kesha nothing And but that's the thing that
she's like, well, Moxley needs a title, and I think
Becky's that too, where it's just like, especially now the
secondary titles, it's like, what should we do? Well, just
let Becky do her stuff and we'll give her that
icy title and then we'll draft your back down she
the us Like I just that's why. I just it
feels like there's no urgency here. And I think there's
actually a good version of the Becky A j feud
for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not really seeing it right now, so I'm not.
I don't know I'm not looking forward to seve more weeks,
even though I don't watch the product full time on
the weekly. But uh, the thing I don't know if
I'm looking forward to or not is I hope in
the future we never get another crate reveal because we
did get that now. Granted, I'm gonna say someone, I
think this reveal made w W and AW look really
bad people oh y a W because there was.
Speaker 4: Like it's like this what this is what you AW
fans be watching over there?
Speaker 7: Not no, not not not that not. My point of
view for that is that is a good one. That's funny.
Speaker 1: But like my point of view is that we've talked
about this so many times, right with there's the occasional talent, yes,
but so many times of why is Tony Kahan? And
it's his money? He's a millionaire. Fuck being, you do
whatever you want, right, But as a business guy who's
trying to make aw profile business, I just want wrestling
businesses to succeed.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's a guy and I don't know what DN
Houston is getting paid. I'm sure he's getting paid enough
that you could give that to a different wrestler. You
could give some people raises you could buy some crew people.
You had this guy iced out for his injury time
and then picked up his option for a year for
him to come out, and then just get booed at
his debut. You look, that makes you look fucking dumb.
It's not like, oh, he came out and everyone loves
Dannhouse and he's trending. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was trending all right, but for bad reasons.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it would have been exact same,
but just mean, like that's where it shows of like,
don't hold a talent unless it's somebody that you feel,
you know what they could like when they were doing
that punk, I understood. I don't think anyone should be
because this is like you don't have to get like
too deep. But like the fact that WW did that
to Luke Harper, and look at that guy when he
like brolliantly passed away a couple of years later.
Speaker 2: That guy fucking wanted to wrestle. He fucking wanted to work.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that should be the situation everybody,
but it's like you don't know what's gonna happen life.
He should not have been sitting at home just waiting
for w call he put out, he said, I want
my release. They wouldn't release him, and then he wasted year,
like a year of his life just on the couch
doing nothing. And the same thing here. If people want
to work, let them work if it's not really gonna
hurt your business. Dan Halsling leaving didn't do anything. He's
been gone for a year. And then look what happened
here w shot themselves in the foot. So it's like
that's where it to me, it made aw and Tony
Kahn look back is like this is a situation of like,
just let people go if they want to go, Like
for the most part, you're saving yourself money and then
w W who, Like I cannot wait till we if
we ever find out whose idea this was, because I
say this all tim we're talking geek first or side quest.
There's people and we've talked this before when you're watching
on real there's billionaires or millionaires making these decisions, and
you could ask someone like myself who's not making anywhere
near that money, like is this a good idea?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you no.
Speaker 1: Unless if you're doing this Box Craig game, and unless
it is a jericho or a big mainstream person that's
gonna pop the crowd, putting in Dan Housen, who's not
even that popular of an indie wrestler for like the mainstream,
not like a name like oh Aj Styles is. He's
not that level to come out. And even then you
have this guy fucking payroll. Why is the miss not
out there? Kind of bad promo for Dan Houson to
come there, hit his music and hit his finish leave.
Why is he just gonna walk in the middle ring.
Speaker 4: It's not like from people in the crowd, like I
did see multiple povs and people who were at the
show talk about it. It said like when he came out,
there was a pop and then the booing was like
people wanted him to see him do something, Like what
was like when he got in the ring, they were happy.
When the lights went out and he just left, that's
how they started booing because it's like, well, he came
out to do nothing. And he said, like there's someone
who's there talking about like there's the booing and then
I was like the show went to commercial and when
he did see like people were chanting for like Oba,
They're like, come out and like beat him up or
something like people wanted something to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's I just again, every couple of weeks,
I gotta hear the mis apologist coming, like, you know,
he's one of the greatest of all time. You know,
it's okay if he is, get him out there, have
him kind of shit promo, and then Dan Holison levesone
to leave like anything, like whose idea? Who's getting paid
six figures back. Well, he's gonna be in a box
and he's gonna walk out post and we're gonna cut
to commercial.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's gonna get the guy over.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is his careers deal, and I'm
not saying he can't be in our truth and being
a comedy guy.
Speaker 4: Who is a coronett or Russo who said the thing
about anything that comes out of a boxes is over.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Ruso, because pretty sure
when I used to listen to the wrestle he always
says as a joke like, oh, put him in a
box to come out and they're over.
Speaker 2: So I think it's I think it's Russo.
Speaker 1: And that's where it's just I don't know who did this,
whose idea was and it just starts them off on
a bat like, it starts him off on a bad foot.
And I feel bad about this for this guy because
he's gone this Inny, gimming over.
Speaker 2: He came to AW injured so he couldn't wrestle, gut
himself over.
Speaker 1: And then there was you hear mixed reports off they told.
Speaker 4: Do you know how many matches as he wrestled in
his entire a career?
Speaker 1: I know because I saw the tweets, so asked David.
Because I don't think David saw tweet. So I think
I was spoiled.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I know he was relegated to
Ring of Honor for a while.
Speaker 4: And we'll give you a hint.
Speaker 1: It's under ten day.
Speaker 3: So this is just a w This is not Ring
of Honor, right, just I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think his only Ring of Honor appearance was appearing
from under the ring.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever read. I think he
was there, but I don't think he ever wrestled. Yeah,
and then people, so I'm gonna say six, you're.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll just say it was nine.
Speaker 1: It was not okay. I saw something wrong. I thought
it was seven, but so he's close to double digits.
But and then yeah with him, like and again, who knows.
There's rumors because he's Punk's friend. There was rumors that
he told Tony Conny couldn't work Saturdays for Collision and
then they caught him working indies and they're like, what
the fuck, dude, Like you told us he couldn't work.
Speaker 4: So it's sounds like there were the bootleg merge rumor
that like, yes, bootleg aw merg.
Speaker 1: Yes there was. So it sounds like there's a lot
of stuff going on there. I wish him the best
I do, because I saw a lot of people taking
the opportunity that don't like don Dan Houston to be like, yeah,
this guy's a fucking job or look he looks like
a middle school like I like Dan Houson like that.
I'm not saying I need him to be win titles.
I find some comedy.
Speaker 4: Stuff responding to like one of those person that's like,
oh he's so he's so small and something. And it
was just a screenshots showing showing it was it was
andraw days five to nine, Dan House and five to ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing, like it's just the physical aspect.
But I well, we'll see. I think there's two scenarios here.
I think he can become a comedy guy that's round
for a long time, or I think he's a guy
that jobs called time he goes to Triple A and
then in three years worth saying oh the Dan Houson thing,
like I don't know, I do agree with people that
that Triple post came in view that to me felt
like this guy has that's definitely like, yeah, you guys,
book them and make him do something, you know, like
you know like and we'll see there's and there's just
lots of people on this roster, so yeah, we will
find out. And then finally nothing too big here. We
got seam Punk and Finn. Like I said, I thought
this was a good match because say, raw one. I
will show this already in Discord. One of the greatest
counters I think I've ever seen, so shout of Fin
and uh seam Punk, the Koodi gras into the catching
his leg into a sharp shooter. Holy hell, And that
was clean.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even funly.
Speaker 1: It was clean.
Speaker 2: Two k add that next year somebody work on that.
Speaker 1: I want to counter every I want to counter every
dive with a sharp shooter even if.
Speaker 4: You actually can.
Speaker 1: Uh, I got to play the rest of gamemore, like
if someone is like the catching finishers and two k
are like so annoying to do it, you have to.
Speaker 4: Do it perfect.
Speaker 2: But let's be like this, it has to be off
the top and you have.
Speaker 4: A Finn your store, and you had you can set
sharp shooters one where it's like it isn't as clean
because it's like you'll kind of just like kick them
and then get them to a sharp shooter. But if
someone's coming off the top of you technically can counter
into okay nice.
Speaker 1: I like that. But yeah, you guys, are any other
any of your thoughts. Roan's on ronomorrow He's gonna be
targeting Punk. I'm excited for the promo.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I did like their their raw match
more just because I felt like I like the dynamic
more of the heel Punk with face fin. I thought
it was it was more fun there. But this was
still a good match, like you said, obviously great moment
there with the counter and also like the moment where
like Finn was calling for like Dominic and JD to
come out and they never came out.
Speaker 1: Oh so so I miss it. I thought they were
just that he actually called for that.
Speaker 4: He did like this, and then Cole was like, I
heard like I saw JD and Dominic backstage today and
then they like never came out.
Speaker 1: What are they doing with Finn Balor? I don't understand it.
Let me just ran for a quick minute. He he fights,
he him Punk.
Speaker 2: They had this great match. They shake hands, he gets.
Speaker 1: The music back. He's on his way to being a bayface.
Everyone's ready. No, a couple weeks later, we need a
chair match. He goes heeling Punk. Okay, at the end
of this match, he shook Punk's hand. That's a bayface move.
Why is he doing that? If the mill of the ring,
he's calling for interference? Who is fucking booking this? Like?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Those things don't make they don't.
Speaker 2: Make I guess they don't make sense.
Speaker 1: You have a heel turn and like a heel thing
and bayface thing in the same match.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: You can't call for people? And then they oh, thanks,
that's going that's like fucking w or WrestleMania whatever. When
they had tripleh sting and Triple Ah cheated hits Sing
with sledgehammer, and after the match, thing was like, yeah,
a good match.
Speaker 2: Man was like, what, you don't shake his hand?
Speaker 1: He cheated, He hits you with a CTE weapon and
you're shaking this motherfucker's hand, like I missed that. He
called him back? What is hat like? Oh my god,
It's just like it just boggles my mind what they're
doing with this man.
Speaker 3: It's it's like they wanted him to go face after
the first match with Punkin and they were like, oh, ship,
we got one more paper VD to go before WRESTLINGIA.
Speaker 1: We need you to go back. I would rather than
just like they still haven't done on w TV. Oh right, No,
Dom was hurt. Never mind, I was gonna say they
still don't dominance him. Pob like Dom se him punkubin
Instagram and tweeting at each other for a few like
it feels like it's been building for like a two.
Speaker 4: Years and return because his first match back was house
showing match against the.
Speaker 1: An MSG against Dom and that's where I like, and
I think on TV and.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the wrong gear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess right, I guess he's dropping into
Rome And I would have been completely fine. If he
was healthy, and maybe that was a plan of Dong
trying to I'm going to go for two titles, right,
But it's like there's nobody like, I don't know he'd
up russive for a couple of weeks or something. I
don't know, do they aw? So it's just I just
it's strange, and again like why should I want to
cheer for thinn Bower if you said as a I give.
Speaker 2: You my word, I'm not gonna cheat.
Speaker 1: And then like he's trying to get his friends out
of their cheat, Like why do I care about him
as a babyface?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they mentioned on the walkout that jd and
was not coming out with him, like yeah the judgment
day are staying in the back. You know he's gonna
do this solo. But then he still does the call
for him, so it's like what what which?
Speaker 4: What are you like? Like after what spot he did
do the call? Because I remember doing it, but I
don't remember. Maybe it was like I think it might
have been like after the Couter Girl like kick out
and still.
Speaker 1: He can't beat them and come on, It's like that's
like when you are playing w t K and you're
wrestling on the baby face and can't beat him, like
the ref gets bumped. You know, this nash being go
on for fifteen minutes. I'm gonna lose. Let's just cheat here.
And that's what it felt like. So I know, I
imagine they're just gonna do Finn and Dom or something
many or some multi man for icy title. Pent is
gonna lose for his fucking eightieth time tomorrow. What are
we doing with Penta? I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So to your point about two K, I need that
now as a spot. So you know, they have that
wrap up button when you're playing. So now if you
hit that wrap it up button when the computer's playing,
I need for them to just call some rep bu
call somebody.
Speaker 1: The retress falls, the reftress falls, and you can just
do whatever and then that's done.
Speaker 2: You know they should have that.
Speaker 1: Let's same like a Mario Kart they have like a
self driving for the kids. They should do like a
you think you're gonna lose, just wrap it like the
ref will just die there. It's a little full earl
hebner on you. Yeah, did they should have that? I
guess you couldn't do a game ender I would love
it if someone had a heel thing where you could
like save it up and like do a screwjob finish
in the matchic if you like stalk up like three
to five finishers and you could do like you put
some on a submission and right away the ref calls.
And I would love you to do that, but.
Speaker 4: You can only do that like if you're playing as
the guest referee.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, but uh yeah, And I guess doesn't
happened after because we had talked about it, Romans, I'm
ron talk about Punk. I should say this because I
supposed to say this that Yes, I've been calling for
the ship for two years. Finally they talked about the
goddamn podcast.
Speaker 2: I was very excited.
Speaker 1: I was more so on the level like I think
Punk did good, but he was like, man, he was
obsessed with his doormount analogy and that promos and he
kept trying to get it over and the crowd was like,
not digging anything, but you want to get that mountain,
you know what I mean? And it was like, yeah,
it wasn't much. But Roman big Dog woke up finally
and you know it's part promo, but that guy has
been holding that shit for twenty or twelve years.
Speaker 2: Now, and that's what it had to be.
Speaker 1: This is what I won last year, and I was worried,
Like I said, Punk just being like, oh, you want
to be the man around here. And it's the same
thing he's I don't know why he does this because
he saw it happen with Seth when he's charged.
Speaker 2: He's trying to do like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a full time guy, You're a part timer.
Crowd don't give a fuck. Roman comes out, They pap anything.
So it's like when Steth like you loft twelve years ago,
you left us and the crowd doesn't care, like, well
he's back, I'm gonna cheer him. So it's like I
hope Punk because he's already done in a few times
of like I'm still here and the crowd booze, I
guarantee you that promo. It was a couple of weeks ago.
I think he was on the AJ Show, which was disappointing. Yeah,
he said like, oh well I'm here, where's Roman? And
the crowd booze. I guarantee you. If Roman's music hit,
they would turn and they'd be they'd be thrown up
their fucking one, so like they just do that because
they're mad he's not there, But I am very interested.
Speaker 2: I think it could be fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: I think the match that Vegas could be really hot.
But I do think that was great and I think
Rowan really delivered there and I think he did like, yeah,
I don't care. He helped me to Punk there in
like the presentation and the promo, like he he just
had something about him which is good, and hey, Punk
says he brings the best. May that's case. I feel
like I'm getting the few and even Roman's tweet last
night of like I don't know who's more tired of
the crowd of the champion, absolutely like go for this
type of stuff. So I I think Roman has like
is it three or four raws? I don't know, It's
something like that, but I I this was a good start.
I hope they keep the momentum and just they can
do one crowd brawl. Sure they'll do one pole apart,
but then keep going, keep all the promos, keep that.
But Roman perfect note of talking about everything that happened,
because that is like a legit huge part of wrestling
history and that helps people turn on Roman because like, oh,
because like him, we don't like them either, you know,
because it's just like, oh, he's getting favoritism and that
like it should be a big thing for that character.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was very happy with that, and I'm I.
Speaker 1: Will watch that promo to more and Roman's there, I'll
be excited and I'll be uh, I'm ready for Uh.
I don't know how it's gonna go for Roman when
he wins the title. I feel like Roman in his mind, he.
Speaker 2: Thinks he's gonna recreate the like not the rum but.
Speaker 4: Just the success Roman versus Solo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like he's like, I'm gonna get
to those level of success again. It's like I don't
know if that's gonna happen, but I don't know. We'll
see so anything else. W really we haven't touched upon
big turn for us, Bubbs angles, I.
Speaker 4: Got my my j C Jane Sure and.
Speaker 1: On still Champ, Still Champ, who's taking this thing off
or that? Because I think Soul's gonna be a little
busy right If not, she might not even be winning
the title because she might be.
Speaker 4: I think the stand and Delivery match is probably gonna
be Soul versus Zaria, like not for the title is
going to be doing at Samon Deliver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's gonna do the same thing, right, She's
probably gonna screw because her her this, Yeah, and I
imagine Soul is gonna probably even which is her music
hits right, like screws her up somehow. And but I'm
really excited for that match. I will be watching. I'm
excited to see. I think they have good one.
Speaker 4: I really like I've seen people say like I wonder
I feel like it's interesting because I feel like they'll
do just the normal singles, but if it's like Soul's
Last Time n XT, maybe do some some stip for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could. I think either way. I think she
could get killed in them, like like whether even if
she wins match, I think she's gonna get killed and
then send her off.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but for the next title at sandel Over,
I'm still thinking it's gonna be like Kendall Gray winning
it there.
Speaker 2: Meaning it not even just challenge winning it you think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, because I feel like they're kind
of they're kind of doing that story where it's like
she's like if I well, it's the jay Us story.
She's like, if I could challenge it, like I know
I can win, Like if I could challenge one more time,
I would win it. It's pretty much what she said.
And she's like tried to get title shots and like
it hasn't worked out for various reasons.
Speaker 1: Does she still have I think she's.
Speaker 4: Like a Roman. She defends. She defends that title like
every week and just be to everyone.
Speaker 2: She's just gonna Joe Oba drop.
Speaker 4: It can evolve like they have like their like sort
of special events, not really like p l e s,
but I think there is one maybe this week where
it's funny because it's like, uh, it's like all the
special events go to like a bigger and bigger stages
like like main Roster. Pl e s are like in
stadiums like NXT. Pls are like in the Ron SmackDown
like level venues, and then Evolve Evolve is filmed in
like some random room in the PC. But then their
specials are like in the NXT like Arena I see,
which they filmed before like some episodes of NXT.
Speaker 1: Uh So I think I didn't outstand Deliver will be
a week before Many two, which I think is probably
smarter this guard.
Speaker 4: A couple Is it a week before is it like
a couple.
Speaker 1: Of actual maybe yeah, maybe two weeks. I think it
is a single digit.
Speaker 4: Like April fourth or something like that, like a month away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really know what, like I assume because
they're doing Joe and Ricky at like Vengeance Day, which
is this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stand and Deliver is April fourth, so it's two weeks.
Speaker 4: Ahead, so I don't know what. Joe's probably still going
to be the champion by then, so I don't really
know who.
Speaker 1: They could do. They could also do a Becky Agey
thing right where this is like the first match and
then they run it back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, which it'll be interesting parent
those two. So we'll see. So he's just waiting to
get called up where down House is fucking coming out
of box already.
Speaker 4: Maybe we finally finally lost his his North American title. Yeah,
he tied with the longest reign with Hoova, like tied
exact same one days.
Speaker 1: Time to get him up there, you know, get him up.
The Vision needs people. Sep rawls. He's a WrestleMania opponent.
There you go, you know, so, yeah, we will see
s bubbs. Do you have those draft results? If you
don't know the second annual draft, do this. We'll do
this at the resume in Predictions because that was our
very first show as we draft ten superstars and it
works there fantasy football where we get points and deductions
based on wins, losses, returns, hele defenses, rumble wins, all
that type of stuff and h yeah, something.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about it because I'm not sure if
last year did we end like before Rumbler or did
we count rumble ast points because I was looking at
the rules and I don't have anything written about like
I have like that Rumble and Money in the bank
give like a hundred points, but I have nothing written
about Chamber.
Speaker 1: I we did with Chamber, I don't know if we
did or not, because I feel like it's just like
it's just a number one contenders match.
Speaker 4: Like a stipulation match, not like.
Speaker 2: No one's ever being like remember won the Chamber that year.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just kind of.
Speaker 4: Like would that also count? Because what we also do
is like for Mania, like if someone loses their like
they're like rumble shot, that's like minus a bunch of points.
Is also count for chamber because I looked back and
I did count it for chamber.
Speaker 2: For like, well, if you count it, then we should
keep it counting. We'll keep with history.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so so next year and Randy, Yeah, it's
a punishment. Yeah. So Ri and Randy they got some
some troubles there if you draft them.
Speaker 4: So okay, So I do have the final points then
and then so I'll read them here. So in third
place is David with seven hundred and one points.
Speaker 1: To enp your the injuries, David, your injuries, man.
Speaker 4: Then in second place is me with a thousand, one
hundred and thirty two points, and then in first place
is Dravis with one thousand, two hundred and fifty nine points. Wow,
only about one hundred away.
Speaker 1: I want to give a big shout out to Dan
Housen for being that box in a Christiericho that could
have hurt me big time. So I'm very thankful for that.
And uh no, I'm happy, happy to get a win here.
So I'm looking forward to next year. Always happy to
win a draft. I love drafts, so yeah, I'm looking
forward to uh next year, Sea draft some people. But yeah,
we got in March, we're gonna have the draft and
then we have gmodes starting, so two competitions starting, so
we'll see. I hope a shriek can go. So congratulations
guys and David. I hope hope you got some better
luck next year with your your injury bugs and you
know you can take Jericho though he's coming.
Speaker 3: At some point, I'm gonna no one else to break
a knuckle or anything else, like right at the height
of their career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bonko one. That's that's that's fucking crazy how
that happened.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and Travis also we did we did our
casket match cheese, but in real life with drafting Ruth
and Alistair Black that's for the first thing. And then
just immediately dropped me though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. We did get a couple of cheats
there and we lost in Alison.
Speaker 4: We could have thought about it like mid season, like
if I had just drafted like like Nicky Vella and
Goldberg and christ Stratis like in the middle of the year,
I have got so many points just for one match.
Speaker 1: But we gotta look into that now for next year.
So let me see. Okay, so I will pull up
the car because we'll do a mini predictions here because
we won't have a cast likely before revolution. So just
what's on there now? I shared myself there. So right
now all we have is one, two, three, four, four
matches two weeks away already, My goodness. I don't know
why we're doing this. I love both teams. We got
FTR um Bucks doing it again. I guess we're just
killing time till Edging Christian are around now. Don't get
me wrong, I'm really open dynas see what I'm going
to if you don't know, Vancouver, Canada. If that's the
place I have edding Christian win those titles they can't
do in Toronto, I'll happily take you know, one of
my favorite tag teams doing it there. But I just think,
like I think Bucks is like it's been nice to
see that.
Speaker 2: They've like turned around and the reactions.
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. I just don't know who would
have put here, but I just Bucks and FTR has
maybe happened one too many times. But I think just
you know, FTR is keeping it. I don't think al
thinks anything otherwise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think FTR is going to keep it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could see the young ones just just
winning it and just like their faces now, people like
them just just put it on them again, especially since
FTR is kind of like the rain has just kind
of been weird because there's not really been like any faces.
They've just like fought heels the whole time, so there's
not really much they're getting like reactions.
Speaker 1: It feels like the mail or the tag version of
what the back half of Tony and Mariah A was,
where it's like, well, we've just got away for Rag
and Christian to get back, you know, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Rascals have like a future, yes at some point,
and I feel like they might just like, let's just
do the Young Bucks of Rascals five star match at
some point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exciting for that. Do you not think that
Edie Kushner are gonna get those take titles?
Speaker 4: I feel like it's weird with the whole thing, Like
it kind of felt like everyone knows like this is
definitely what's gonna happen at like, oh, it's gonna happen
at what was it all out? And then it's just
like a normal match without the titles and then they
won the titles, and there really hasn't been any sign
of coping Christian, so at this point, I don't really
know what's going on with that. So yeah, I'm just
saying I wouldn't be surprised if the Youngost just one.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, David, what would you.
Speaker 3: Right now? I have a FTR keeping it. I think
they're gonna then go on to face the Rascals or
some of the different teams that they're going to build up.
But to that point, I could see them just for
saying fuck it and doing the switch with the Young
Bucks and you know, just keeping that going that back
and forth, volley going back. You know, I don't want
that to happen, but also it could be one of
these we don't know what we're doing with that tag
team division right now, so we're just gonna keep trading
it back and forth.
Speaker 1: Cople has to shoot another season with Percy Jackson. He's
not gonna be back for Dynasty because I still think
they're gonna do Bucks and Edge and Christian at some point.
I think that's a have to.
Speaker 2: That's like a quote unquote dream match.
Speaker 1: We'll see. But again, I think they delivered with FTR,
so I think that's gonna happen. My trajectory is I
think they beat FTR for the tech titles, have a
short run, and I think they drop it to the Bucks.
I could see that being the all in matches Bucks
versus Edge and Christian for the tag titles. I really could.
And then they get the titles there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I forgot on.
Speaker 1: Dynamite because Dave, you might watch it. Who because they
they it was gonna be swerving Kenny. Kenny has to
be in Japan for like a fighting game turned thing.
They they Swerve is teasing somebody right now? Yes, because
the whole dangerous Man gimmick. Right, Yes, that that's what happened. Yeah,
and Brody had a good Matchmage you have easily with
a bolt right now. My match year Kenny Swerve last
week was phenomenal, not only in the match I gave
it like I'm gonna I couldn't drop the full five
stars yet I'm gonna watch again in the future. I
get like a four point seven five but maybe a
little like the aj Becky a little lot of ref
bumps going on there. But the slow swerve heel turn
was fantastic. These guys had great chemistry, the character dynamics.
I love that Kenny Omega is not just fucking like,
oh my gut wrestling, that's over. He's like just being
Kenny Omega again. Like that match was so good. So
right now that is my It's probably a five star.
I just have to watch again because I felt like
there's something where it's like, I don't know, I like
we said somethimes, you just gotta feel it. But I
was almost felt bad out knocking at five stars, but
that was my match.
Speaker 2: I love Swerve.
Speaker 1: I love what he's doing right now at the heel stuff.
I think him and Brody will be really good. I'm
really hoping I can get MGF and Kenny at Dynasty
because I'll be there live. People need I think people
need to relax. I keep seeing people booking though, like, oh,
Kenny's gonna beat MGF and it's gonna be Oscar versus Kenny.
We're wrong at all in I would prefer that that
would be the tiebreaker.
Speaker 4: Versus versus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, it's m Jef versus Osprey. I
think they want a full heel there. I think that's
almost like not as bad, but it's like the logan,
you know, seth match, It's like we've done this at
all in and it's.
Speaker 4: Just especially if he does, like I don't think he does,
like the American thing again at least.
Speaker 1: I hope, Yeah, I hope That's what I mean, Like it's.
Speaker 4: Too much of it's just like a rematch.
Speaker 1: I don't think he will, but it's just still that
it gets lingering there, right, and it's just like I
don't know, so they did it already in all in London,
but no, Kenny and Swarb was phenomenal. Swarre will be
Brody King, which was so funny because like Brody I
can't remember who he wrestled on Dina, Oh he wrestled
uh Mark Davis and he's like, oh and then if
I get this shot, if I win, that was put
me back in line for title shot. It's like, dude,
you just lost, like like it was like four days
ago or someone's like you're not gonna like it's most
outrageous stuff like once Mark Davis. But it's like when he.
Speaker 2: Said, I'm like, what do you mean in line?
Speaker 1: Like you're far back there. Man. It's like there's.
Speaker 4: Like anyone you'll be you'll be in line for the titles.
Speaker 2: Look at Kevin Knight.
Speaker 3: I'm about to say Kevin Knight's next.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, in this decade, if I would
list you like some of my favorite newer people that
I didn't watch before and then this day decade, Kevin
Knight's top three. I love Kevin Knight.
Speaker 2: He's in there.
Speaker 1: He has a natural charisma. He had like he can
work like a wrestling so but not also just like
just spot after after spot the fact that it's just
like he cut a little prolo M Jeff and I'm
just like, sure, you know a match. I don't like that.
I think that should be more of like a loser
wrestler that should get that of like M Jift like
sure you know Dan Hallise of Dann's are like, sure,
I'll give you a shot, right Like.
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say that. I know that. And
that's what he's doing right He's doing the Rick Flair
gimmick right now from the eighties and n w A
I understand it. I just like for Kevin Knight's first shot,
I didn't want to be like, here's a handout title shot.
I want to even just put him in a four
way put it in like a hey, one of these people.
Speaker 2: And I also this is a transpect people.
Speaker 1: I hate matches where both Moxley and m Jeff are defending,
but in two weeks they got a title match to
a pay review. We I just I this song like
it just ruins any drama, any chance, Just like this
just doesn't work for me, because.
Speaker 4: Have any of them actually been for the title.
Speaker 1: Or like all eliminators for Moxley? Yeah, no, I guess yeah,
I know you're you're right.
Speaker 4: I think your red it might be all eliminators, okay
rules because it's like, yeah, the title and.
Speaker 1: Same thing, then why not just do an eliminator because like,
is Kevin Knight really gonna roll up m Jeff and
get the win this Wednesday?
Speaker 2: No, Like I think it'll be a good match, but
like I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't love that if they don't do eliminator, it
might be like because eliminator is like the like if
you lose, you can't challenge for it. Like again, while
that person has it, she means maybe they want Kevin
Knight again At some point during.
Speaker 1: This night, aspray all in you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for.
Speaker 4: Not just doing or just to say like, oh he's
getting a we're pushing the young guys getting the world
world I own shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's fair with uh yeah, with Swerving Kenny Spose.
I don't think you watched that shirt, did you? Yeah,
I'll watch it. Yeah, even if you know you have
to wait till makes you put on your like to
watch list for the back half of Kenny, you know,
first second month of the year. He's always doing those
match years. Then he'll balance out for a couple of months.
But last year he did that classic Gabe kid. He's like,
I'm good, I gave you guys a five star. I'm out.
But uh yeah, dude, what do you think about Uh?
Also got Swerve and Brody I guess in two weeks,
but then Swerving Kenny and that going on.
Speaker 3: I I like what Swerve has been doing in the
last couple of weeks, Like they're really building him back
up since his return and he's looking strong. I'm glad
that he switched back to, you know, being like more
of a heel and not that kind of in between.
All right, I'm I'm hanging with hangman, But I still
have this bad shot, like he's he's full on, just like, no,
nothing's gonna stop me from getting back to the World Championship.
And I like that version of Swerve so.
Speaker 1: Which I can't only kill him and hang Man. They've
on purpose not let them interacted since this happens only
been two weeks, but I'm very curious when they interact
again this time to see what's happening, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I hope that they're building up to.
I'm hoping that they're building up to this. Hey, we
we were. We were on the same page at one point,
but now you have what I want and I'm going
to go through we are. We've proven before and I'm
gonna prove again that I'm willing to go through hell
in order to get this back.
Speaker 1: And I know there's the memes of people making the
means Swerve facing and he's gonna screw hang Man this
weekend the only reason, Like I I just I want
there to be a reason for that, right, I just
don't want them to do because he has no reason,
Like if Hangman beats Mgeff, that's like it's no fucks
given for Swerve, right, it's just like, Okay, then I'll
beat hang Man, So I like, I if that happens,
I don't want it just to be like for a moment,
for a shock, like who did this all was swerve?
Like I want there to be something, So I kind
of hope that's not the route. And honestly, if they're
not in the title picture, I think what they should
do is they should do a Hangman swerve at all
and it's like a big singles and that could even
be like maybe a blow off or something like, because
they the last match they had Hangman like poison them
in the middle of the ring, like they do have
to like finish something. So that is my title match.
Have it swerve hang Man just peer just you know,
just to settle the score. So yeah, and then that friend,
I guess we let's see you. The other match is
Moxley and Takesha. Before we get to me tell I
don't know, Moxley wins, and then I'm just bitter at
TK for what they're doing. Takesha, you know, I don't.
I don't understand it. I'm sure they could be a
good match, And kudos to Moxley for doing that call
for like after they did the time when the crowd
was pissed, I just hit me their finish, you know.
Speaker 2: Smart guy, But I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I'm tired of Takesha kind of being like
the bridesmaid position, you know. But I think, uh, Moxley wins,
and I just hope the turn on him, you know,
Like I know at first it's like, oh, well, Moxley,
he's down to do that, but he wants to do
it his own way. I would have much rather been
watching at least a couple of months of him like
feuding with them and just trying to get revenge versus
just like all right, title fense, title defense, title fence,
and that's kind of it. But anyone else seemed to
kes ship pick up a win, yar or anything.
Speaker 3: No, he just won the TV title in Japan, so
I think they're gonna have.
Speaker 4: On the Ramp and then he'll look at.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine he wins like on like a grant
like what is it the belt Tuesday or whatever, especially
just beats him for the new.
Speaker 2: Japan TV title.
Speaker 3: Battle of the Belts.
Speaker 4: I feel like think iired along with the ramp page.
Speaker 1: Yeah they killed it is your King keeping the title
here in Moxley.
Speaker 4: I think so I don't really know who he loses
it to because I feel like the Death Riders now
are like they're both heels, and.
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. I think you can
do that with a group, but not the fucking Death Riders,
who were like started as like neo Nazi, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Kill you group, like they can't.
Speaker 1: Be the like ah, sometimes we're having a good time
with the cocomilation. It's like no, like just pick like
flip over, you know, like I know, I'm just gonna
assume it's one of the Death ris eventually. I don't
know when. If it's my mind, it's fucking Marina Shaffir
have her fucking beat him for the title, but it's
probably Claudia or Pak or something, you know, like that's
I think we'll go too.
Speaker 4: I think they are doing. I think uh a Tony
versus Marine no match on Dynamite. I think, oh nice,
it would be interesting because they did want like because
like Marina has been getting like like pushed honestly, but
she hasn't actually beat any like like no matches like
they just and they did do they did do Tony
and Marina like a few weeks or months back, but
just ended in DQ like it was like little too.
They kind of wanted her to beat Tony vassas Tony
se Marina beat her. No, you can't, Like if she
beats Tony here, it's like, okay, they're actually gonna push
her into something, yeah, and if not, then I don't
I just.
Speaker 1: Don't know what they push her into because like we'll
talk about the second we to talk about like Tecla,
they're not pushing her heel Techla unless Steph Fright is
a full baby face.
Speaker 2: They're not going to Willow.
Speaker 4: In her corner Clapp and.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they're not going to Willow because they're clearly
gonna do at least Willow make them Baine first right now,
so maybe down the line, but they're doing that, so
I don't know. I could see something else schmazy happening
in this match and kind of like.
Speaker 4: That secret lover revealed.
Speaker 1: Oh god right, they.
Speaker 4: Brought it back like last week, like she got another
thing of flowers and it's like, oh, I guess it
wasn't Marina.
Speaker 1: It's like that and Jacob's attacker. It's like are these
where are these storylines going. You know, I could even
see something though, where this match ends in chakanery and
they actually do like a full pl e or pay
per view match at Revolution here, I would say weapons match,
but because you have a death match, I don't know
if they want to. But you know what, aw is
it all the time where it's like, let's book three
stip matches in a row and everyone's like this was
a bad idea. So you know what, I could see
something like that, like they've done it before, like with
her feet. I could see them doing some fucking like
bare knuckle bare knuckle box, you're like the or Taipei
death match. I can gimmicked like yeah because her and
didn't they do that with Monet right?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: In the Hollywood ending right Tony Sterm dipped her tape
and like something, Yeah, yeah, I guess Marino would be
down for that, like just do something like that, So
we'll see.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about in the discord the One Man to
Escape Quantunovay b Bandido's versus androde Albilo.
Speaker 2: I think it's for ri Reach title.
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 4: Don't think right now.
Speaker 3: Right now it is just a singles match. It is
just a regular match.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they want to draw to win, but they
don't want to be the r H.
Speaker 4: I think the story for this match was Brody was
gonna fight Swear and then Bandidos there. It's like, I
want to match on Revolution, and Andrade came out and
they pointed at each other and they're like, this is
the match of Revolution.
Speaker 1: Right, cool?
Speaker 2: Fuck me?
Speaker 1: I just I some of these booking decisions, man, Like
I feel like I.
Speaker 4: See like a clip of what Bandido is actually doing
in r o H. There'll be clips of him getting
beat up by like Blake Christian and like Scorpio Sky,
and so I don't really what they're doing. So I
mean it's the same like and Athena too. Like I
feel like Athena is like barely even on r o
H nowadays, like she's a champion, but she'll she'll be
on like the paper views on the week. I feel
like I see no clips or anything of her like
on like the weekly r OH.
Speaker 1: Man then reigns of r o H.
Speaker 4: You know, so I didn't see a tweet she said
she wanted to pass the Brunos and Martino.
Speaker 1: She might she might. At this point, my god, uh
well that annoys side Bend Anddi gonna have a great match.
Drone is on fucking this is he's literally in peak form?
Is he taking himself stuff to get the peak form? Maybe?
Speaker 4: But you know what match I actually watched yesterday that
I watched it on on a discord call. I watched
Andrade versus Carlito on an indie for like a few
weeks ago. Hilarious match. I'll say, like I'd probably get
like one star. They both wrestled with their shirts on
the whole match. Besides Onti, he did take his shirt
off like right before the finish. The finish was a
ref bump. It was Carlito spinning at Apple at the referee,
which let Johnny hit his finisher. I think Carlito maybe
took a total of like two bumps in this match.
They fought in the crowd. Carlito threw on Ronny like
into the you know the classics flow where there's like
all the chairs set up you like throw someone took that.
There was maybe like seventy people in the crowd. But
it was a good time.
Speaker 1: Something to do. And you're in New Japan and aw,
you don't gonna be taking these seventy crowd chairs, bumps
or whatever these spots.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if anyone even knows this match happened.
Speaker 1: But I didn't tell you told me now, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Carl Charlie came out to no entrance to It's like,
I don't know if it was just not working or
actually because Champa, oh yeah, just came out to know music. Well.
Speaker 1: Either way, I think him and Bendito will be a
much better match. Andrade is doing his best work of
his career, and I hope TK books them correctly. But
I think if the town's online, I think we all
agree on Drade is winning and yeah cool, and then
finally has right now off more will be added. I'm
sure we're getting Darby versus Gabe Kid because they fucking
just like, oh well, Darby can't few the deaf Riders
because they're kind of babyfaces sometimes, So what do we do? Well,
gave kids like deaf Right or Jason. He's on babyface,
so you fight him for a few months.
Speaker 2: This needs to end.
Speaker 1: Darby needs do something else, get him a tag team part.
I don't care. I'm done with this. And then we
have M Jeff versus Adam Paige and a Texas Deaf match.
If Hangman Page loses, he can never challenge for the
world title ever. Again, you have your name Sbobs. S
Obs March fifteenth, What is happening with this match?
Speaker 4: I think Hangman is losing.
Speaker 1: And then is he So you think he's just never
his world CHAMPI again, now I think I think so, David.
Speaker 3: I don't see where where that happens. Now, if they
had the stipulation of he can't challenge as long as
MJF is the champion, I could see him losing. But
I don't think them they would go full Cody to
your point again and have that stipulation, because I mean,
Cody's talked so much about how that was not a
good choice. Other people have talked about how that box
them into a corner. It just it doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 4: Go with that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm a few minds of if they do
that and it's just legit like, yeah, he's not gonna
challenge title, Yeah, the full Cody, then I have serious
questions for him. For TK anybody back there. It's just
like this was at least in the early years of
a w when people were like, yeah, like it's like, well, yeah,
he'll invoke at them out. But it's like the earlier's
aw when like there was very little critiques. That was
when I'm like, oh, yeah, that was kind of a
screw up. You guys shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2: So it's like, and I guess I'm fine with this.
Speaker 1: People brought up to like, well what if he does
it and then as he uses a heel turn down
the line and be like, you know what, screwed that?
I'm not gonna do. It's like, I guess, But it's
like that thing of like stipulations and wrestling, just like
it loses this luster if anyone ever says that again,
then I know, okay, they could just go back on
their word and be like, you know what, Actually, I'm
a dick now, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna
challenge for it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't like this either way. I think the match
will be great, but I don't know. I'll have to
see how this all plays out. But it just like
the way we looked at last year with all In,
where the plan was Moxling Derby and then Hayman just
give me be On Hotter and hot, hotter, what happens
if that ever happens again or with any town, right,
And it's like, well, they can't be the main thing.
And that's where it's like, sure Cody had the T
and T title, but just felt like, well, he can't
be in the main storyline, even though at one point
he was the most over baby facing AW. You look
at his last few months, that is not the case.
But for a while when he's backflipping off the cage
and he's taking those straps, by MGF, no one was
hotter in wrestling than Cody Roase at that point. He
was the fucking guy, and he couldn't be at a
world title. So like, oh, it's to a teend title.
So it's just I don't know, like it's a whole
It's it's literally the definition in Sandy is doing this
again and expecting a different result. I don't get it
unless which I don't think either, unless Hanger is on
his way out and I don't think he's going to WWE.
I wouldn't be like opposed to it. I love like,
I love the concept of AW. I love a lot
of stuff they're doing right now. Obviously AW has peaks
and valleys. I do prefer WD, so I wouldn't want
him to go so he can sell these matches. But
sure if he wants to go, everyone will. If you
don't know, like around the r H time, there's always like,
oh yeah, Triple H is a big an he likes
hang Man. And the joke is just because he's like
Adam Cole or Drew. He's like he looks like a
hang he looks like Triple H at some point of
his career, like I remember when I had the beard
and the long hair like that, Like he's very Triple
H coded. That's why I'm the elite. I'm not sure
if you've ever seen this episode suppose where Triple H
like kidnaps Hangman page and they have like they had frank.
Speaker 4: You should find but when I've seen a bunch of
times like the like when Cody's extracism. Yeah, but that
one also dos like Triple like a Triple H appearance
where he just like appears for a second, like with
the sledgehammer.
Speaker 2: It's Frankie Kazzarian playing Triple H.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And they did this whole thing where they did
like a montage it was Bucks at the Indies and
they go to Dave Mel's like, hey, what do you
what have you heard about Hangman? He's missing daved Elster.
He's just like I heard, he's on his way to Connecticut.
So there's all these rumors of his contract aspiring, like
in just like the r New Japan time, he was
on his way there, so I think he could work there.
Obviously there's him in Punk, but I'm sure they'll be
best fucking friends because punk and forgives everybody now in
WW right, he's just trying to be happy, So I'm
sure the dumb headed empty fuck will be okay if
they were to do it, but I just I'll see.
But if it's just a straight up loss and they
do this, I think this is very uh uh foolish idea.
So I don't know. It's it sells the master at
least right as intrigued to like a rematch that they
wrestl last year Revolution, So and that's what I was
talking about. I'm not saying Seph Rowlans needs to do this,
but that's where I'll give them kudos. They did add
two steps to go Okay. Now I'm curious to see
MGFF and Hangman page again. What they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: So I'll say, do you think he just loses like
like with no interference? Like I feel like if he
loses like MJF will cheat in some way, So I'm
not I'll say, like outside interference causing Hangman a loose.
Speaker 1: It's tough because people have brought up I didn't notice this,
but I'm not sure if it was one self made
or someone else that all them F's defenses. He hasn't
cheated once yet to defend the title, So that's where
it's like, do they break that or is that a
thing he's trying to keep up. I think I lean
to there's something that happens, But I think it'd be
even more heartbreaking if MGF just beats him just like
by himself, and hanging has like live with that forever,
and I think that's how you get back to a
heel Hangman. But I'm gonna say there's something, you know,
some kabookiness.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think with a stipulation like this, you
don't ended without some sort of weirdness to the match.
It's not gonna be a straight up clean match.
Speaker 1: Cody's gonna come back, He's gonna throw in the talic
MGF did for him, so well there he goes las
him and so yeah, for the actual gimmick, we'll be
back more in the middle near the end of March
the next two weekends.
Speaker 2: As long as they all go to plant.
Speaker 1: That's why full social media we will have a GM
or two streams will have. Next week will just be
the best of five where we're gonna bring up the
wheel wrestle a bunch in the two K twenty six,
so it's gonna be new too. We're not gonna have
much as also for both these modes. If servers are
our friends. Also, yeah, I'll say next weekend. If we
try and it doesn't work, then we will delay. But
that is the hopeful plan. Our plan is to do
the best of five and then the weekend after we'll
do GM modes. So we'll be back for that's your
kind of month schedule right now, and we'll be back
and I promise to you and'll not be boring.
Speaker 4: Bye.