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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and be On with Cliff and Bubo.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are your favorites, so light say subscribe and raid.

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<v Speaker 3>It five stock and listening watching limb always keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And now your hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Welcome to Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

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<v Speaker 2>Bobo and Matt. Although Bobo is not here currently, he's

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<v Speaker 2>running it behind. We are expecting him shortly, so uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hang out for a little while and the

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<v Speaker 2>Bobes will show up. That's kind of how we run

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<v Speaker 2>around here. But anyway, Yeah, Matt is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great. How you doing? Cliff? I'm all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just down down in the outbuilding, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on that dedicated room for the footprint cast.

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<v Speaker 2>My cast collection has outgrown my garage, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to do something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Done by the time you're here though, for squatch Fest

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<v Speaker 2>this week or next week or whenever that is, but

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to getting it all complete.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not done, I'm gonna call the whole thing off.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have to is the outbuilding haunted by the

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<v Speaker 1>ghost of Bobo's trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I don't think. I think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>left with Bobo actually and the trailer. Yeah, the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of the trailer. I'm not sure there was much spirit

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<v Speaker 2>left in that trailer by the time you dragged it away. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>does it haunt your dreams?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just feel like, you know, like when you

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<v Speaker 2>clean a room and you just feel the chief flow,

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<v Speaker 2>like like the fun shwai is just better that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how my whole life is a moment is in Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a way of life around here. But yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to getting that. I'm framing it up and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do some dry wall or something in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna increase the storage. There's gonna be a work bench.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have a place to u not not like

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<v Speaker 2>a tool work bench that'll be like outside in the

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<v Speaker 2>outbuilding proper, but you know, some sort of like cast

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<v Speaker 2>work bench where I can do my cast pouring and

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<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff in there. You great lightings

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<v Speaker 2>for examining the data and then the evidence and stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be great. I've got a lot of cool

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<v Speaker 2>plans for this really looking forward to getting going. And

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it all, I might be able to

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<v Speaker 2>park my car in the garage for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in my adult life. Yeah, because my cast have always

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<v Speaker 2>taken up the spot, you know, which would be great

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know if I talked about this in

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, but my car leaks like crazy. It's insane

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<v Speaker 2>and this, you know, I happen to live at the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Northwest where it rains all the time, so my

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<v Speaker 2>car is just perpetually wet on the inside, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a bum out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's odd because it's not that old of a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's eleven years old. I bought it, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>December thirtieth, twenty thirteen, so it's like eleven twelve years

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<v Speaker 2>old now.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, my vehicle's twenty five years old, so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess comparatively, yours feels just so brand.

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<v Speaker 3>New, brand spanking new.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'll tell you what, maybe I won't

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<v Speaker 2>and come get you from the airport and you to

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<v Speaker 2>go what is this? What is this?

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<v Speaker 3>So you know it's terrible. Is twenty five years considered vintage?

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<v Speaker 3>I think?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 3>So I can now say I drive a vintage automobile.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, yeah, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what the where the cutoff is.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll say twenty five. It's fun. We did get an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting email that came in.

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<v Speaker 1>So last week's episode it dropped yesterday as we're recording today.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I like alliterative titles, it was our topical episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so I titled it Fossil Footprints, Savage Squirrels and Decorative Drones.

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<v Speaker 1>Since today's a Q and A episode, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>go in the email make sure I've got all the

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<v Speaker 1>most current questions, and so I just went back into

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<v Speaker 1>the email to double check see if anything had come

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<v Speaker 1>in last minute, and we had an email that just

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<v Speaker 1>came in from John Rudolph, and he said, just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the episode. I live in Weatherford, Texas, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>personally witnessed the squirrels around here, hunting, chasing down, killing,

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<v Speaker 1>and eating from the head down to the body large

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<v Speaker 1>what I call tree squirrels. It's not often seen and

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<v Speaker 1>unknown if it's a territorial thing, are actually a diet

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<v Speaker 1>for them. I last saw this behavior in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a year before my youngest was born. Love the show,

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the good work. One of my faves to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Bigfoot and Beyond Forever. So thank you John

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<v Speaker 1>for sending that in. I thought, that's that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty wild thing to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of one of the things that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a parallel here, you know, because this guy John, he

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<v Speaker 2>knew about this, he's seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now the scientists are finally catching up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because we something that's unlooked for, much like our hairy

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<v Speaker 2>friends in the woods. You know, the local people know

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<v Speaker 2>about them, the native people who lived amongst them know

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<v Speaker 2>about them. You know, people who've seen them know about them,

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<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff, and we're just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the scientists to catch up in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to contend with the fact that a

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<v Speaker 1>new threat has emerged, and it's yet another thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be watchful for. Is the savage squirrels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I seeking carnivorous squirrels that could change everything. Yeah, Luckily,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the squirrels know they're small, which nice and

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<v Speaker 2>not like a chihuahua, because chuahuas don't know they're small.

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<v Speaker 2>But squirrels I think know they're there, they're prey item,

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<v Speaker 2>so they kind of stay out of our way. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if we had a say, a I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure what they'd call a pod, a tribe, a troop

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<v Speaker 2>of like say, burrowing chihuahuas that were carnivorous nearby, there'd

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<v Speaker 2>be problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I can attest to that firsthand. Yeah, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Chiuala, right, Yeah, and it was it was evil. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Bobo never liked that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fearless.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing I saw Bobo be legitimately terrified

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that it would just enter a room

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<v Speaker 1>would yell for me, and he'd be like, bro it,

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<v Speaker 1>bro get in here, and I'd run, you know, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of those wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, what's wrong, and he'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, he's looking at me, he's looking at me. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a Q and A. Should we jump into

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<v Speaker 2>it and just let Bobo pick up wherever he shows up?

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<v Speaker 3>We should? We only got one voicemail.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this this tends to happen every year, like

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<v Speaker 1>right around the holidays, like Christmas in New Year, the

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<v Speaker 1>questions slow down a bit. So we've got one voicemail

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<v Speaker 1>and a number of written questions, and then a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great questions from our members for the membership section.

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<v Speaker 1>So I figure since we have a smaller batch of

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<v Speaker 1>questions new questions, submitters here are lucky in that we

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<v Speaker 1>can give a little bit more time than usual to

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<v Speaker 1>these questions. Because usually I aim for ten and doing

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<v Speaker 1>an hour long podcast, we have to spend only so

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<v Speaker 1>much time on so many, but with the smaller number

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<v Speaker 1>we can spend a little bit more time. But we

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<v Speaker 1>can start with the voicemail here that has a question

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<v Speaker 1>for you and a comment for Bobo, And so if

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<v Speaker 1>Bobo joins, I'll just play in the comment portion and

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<v Speaker 1>he can respond to it. But this is a perennial

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<v Speaker 1>question that we get often. We did address it once

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<v Speaker 1>with help from a special guest on a members episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but it'd be good to address on the main show here.

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<v Speaker 5>So here goes Hi Cleff, Hi Bobo, Hi Matt. This

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<v Speaker 5>is Christina, one of your biggest fans. I have been

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<v Speaker 5>to the museum a couple times. I would listen to

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<v Speaker 5>the podcast all the time, hoping to make it to

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<v Speaker 5>the museum again this year, and I'm currently watching Finding

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<v Speaker 5>Bigfoot for the first time. I have one question for Cliff,

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<v Speaker 5>a serious question, because you used to be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it bigfoot or bigfoots? I need to know the

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<v Speaker 5>answer to this because it drives me insane. And Bobo,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm watching season seven right now, and your facial expressions

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<v Speaker 5>when Bobcat was doing the scream when he was on

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<v Speaker 5>an episode was hysterical. I have to pause because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>laughing so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic.

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<v Speaker 5>I also listened to the episode this week with Nick

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<v Speaker 5>Groff and Bobo mentioned doing a collaboration with him for

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<v Speaker 5>Paranormal and Sasquatch, wondering if that ever happened, or if

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<v Speaker 5>there is a chance that it will ever happen. Love

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<v Speaker 5>you guys, keep it up. You guys have literally changed

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<v Speaker 5>my life. I'm grateful for everything you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just asked this in the museum a

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks ago, actually, and let me just say this

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not sure there's any official correct way of

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. I think I believe that the correct way

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<v Speaker 2>to say plural bigfoots would be bigfoot, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I say there's thirty five thousand bear in Oregon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I use the singular as the plural as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>I might also say there's three bears down in that valley.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can also say three bear down in that valley.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the official I think the correct maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not official, because you know who's the authority here on

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of thing, But I think that the correct

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<v Speaker 2>way would be bigfoot. Plural of bigfoot is probably bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't I purposefully don't do that because one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst of misunderstandings about sasquatches is that Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>is one individual and he has been seen from Florida

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<v Speaker 2>to British Columbia for hundreds of years. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>that's ridiculous. But you know, picture yourself as a civilian,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, someone who knows nothing about sasquatches and bigfoots,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that kind of thing is not important to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've never given it two thoughts. You just think

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<v Speaker 2>of Bigfoot as this sort of cartoonish character depicted by

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<v Speaker 2>the media, because that's what the media feeds the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately about the subject. You would think that, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot's ridiculous. All Bigfoot researchers are ridiculous because there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that one animal could be living for hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of years all over the continent. That doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense, like a Paul Bunyan sort of thing, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So in order to help dispel

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<v Speaker 2>that myth, that ridiculous model of what is going on

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<v Speaker 2>with the big foot phenomenon, I purposefully say bigfoots. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't say big feet, of course, because that would pluralize

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<v Speaker 2>the appendage the foot, the foot itself, foot feet, So

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<v Speaker 2>I say bigfoots, and of course sasquatches. That's much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>I prefer sasquatches. Actually, that took big foots, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably bigfoot or there are you know, this family group

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<v Speaker 2>his name is bigfoot. So God, I hope that helped

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<v Speaker 2>answer some of that question. That's why I prefer sasquatches.

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<v Speaker 2>John Green always stylized the plural as sasquatches with an

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<v Speaker 2>ees at the end of it. So I think if

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<v Speaker 2>John Green formalized it, then that's good enough for me.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, and here's Bobo, Bobo. Welcome man. How

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<v Speaker 4>All right? How's it going with you guys? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, just kind of plugging along, man, plugging along

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<v Speaker 2>in life, getting ready for things. Yeah, well, Bob, did

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, blew me away. That's there's some mighty high praise

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<v Speaker 4>in there. And then as far as the Bob Can thing,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember making anything. I haven't seen that episode

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<v Speaker 4>guess yeah, CLIPI that we fill those behind the scenes episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>night at a Sunday, and almost no one saw. But

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<v Speaker 4>we had a great behind the scenes with Bobcat. I

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<v Speaker 4>but we ended up the advities that what it's all

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<v Speaker 4>said and done. He's a great dude. He's hilarious, he's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>He's funny, like I just I hated his whole Police

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<v Speaker 4>And then I found out what a study was. I

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<v Speaker 4>far as Nick m Nick Roth thing, he ended up

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<v Speaker 4>sending a new contract for something else and he went

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, maybe in the future maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's they're kind of that'd be kind of it could work.

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<v Speaker 4>It could definitely work.

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<v Speaker 3>But it like it kind of KOOKI we live in

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think the I think like the ghost

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<v Speaker 4>people would be like, you know, like they'd be on

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<v Speaker 4>that squatch on the BRN everything's a squatch thing or

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<v Speaker 4>like everything's a ghost when it's a squatch or you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, Like, yeah, who knows how it'd go,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like it'd be interesting. I think it'd be fine,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know how productive it would be. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think limally kind of mixing like oil

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<v Speaker 4>and water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't, I don't. I think the further away

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot stays and bigfooters stay from paranormal stuff, probably the better,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think, the better for sasquatches at least. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were just brought on to go ghost hunting

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, that's different, or if he was

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<v Speaker 2>brought on to go bigfooting. I don't know. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of the paranormal people think the ghost

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<v Speaker 2>folks that think that bigfoot is paranormal in some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of way, and they'd be looking.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right right, because they're paranormalists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's what they know.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's kind of like when when I watched

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched Hellier, you know, Greg and Dana.

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<v Speaker 3>Knwkirk's thing, right, I was thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they were out there on that porch and

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<v Speaker 2>if you remember this episode where they were out on

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous thing they were after out there, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>knocks from the woods, and they heard stuff walking around

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like on two legs. They had pebbles being thrown

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<v Speaker 2>at them while on the porch, and what did they do?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Dana, but I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>They put on the god helmet, that's what they called it,

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<v Speaker 2>where they put earphones on that pumpy white noise or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, random radio signals or whatever, and they covered

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes. They basically shut down all of their senses

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<v Speaker 2>so they couldn't observe the sasquatch because they wanted paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to happen. And I was just so just like

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<v Speaker 2>what you had, probably had a real sasquatch right there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you covered your eyes and ears to And of

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<v Speaker 2>course when I saw them, Greg and Dan are my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really like them a lot. You know, they're wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful people. So when I saw them one of these

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<v Speaker 2>able to see it or photo are you had cameras there,

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<v Speaker 2>you had night vision? But no, you covered your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and your ears. And they were laughing and they thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the monkeys, the three monkeys see no squats, hear

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<v Speaker 4>no squatch?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like yeah, I love them though they were just

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<v Speaker 2>at the museum a couple of weeks or about a

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<v Speaker 2>month ago and now I guess or maybe October. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was October is Halloween. Actually they before Halloween.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was just kind of I was kicking around

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<v Speaker 4>with Nick more just because like I enjoy hanging out

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<v Speaker 4>them so much. He's such a fun dude and cool

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<v Speaker 4>and funny. And I was like, they were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>like these places and he goes like, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like that there's definitely squatches there, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we could. Then. I think it was Lee

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<v Speaker 4>and Jennifer's idea that creepy people our managers because we

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<v Speaker 4>idea more at first, and I was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>that could be cool, you know, I was all, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>then Nick got busy. I was I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's not the best idea, but people would have

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond

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<v Speaker 6>with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the one and only voicemail. But we

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<v Speaker 1>can move on to the written questions. And I pulled

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<v Speaker 1>this one up because it was a lovely sentiment in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also we get questions of this nature very often,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think we've ever outlined this specifically on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so it might be good for future inquiries too.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to read it, Bobo?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure? Nicole message on Nicole. The format of that says

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<v Speaker 4>Nicole message, It says name Nicole message. She writes, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>We've been a fan of the show for a long

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<v Speaker 4>time and have had the roughest last two years that

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<v Speaker 4>you could ever imagine. You guys are always a considerate,

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<v Speaker 4>a consistent safe place for us, and we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 4>guys so much. Is there any way to pay for

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<v Speaker 4>a meet and greet with you conferences?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's the only way you can pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to come to the museum and meet me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's an option too. I suppose, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>where you live, you may have to pay to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, you know. Right now, I'm covering weekends

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<v Speaker 2>whenever that is. But even when we hire the new employee,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't technically have to cover hours any longer,

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<v Speaker 2>employees are covering all the shifts. I'm still at the

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<v Speaker 2>couple hours. You know, I'm there all the time doing something,

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<v Speaker 2>museum is the best way to catch me, or at

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<v Speaker 2>a conference where you know I'm going.

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<v Speaker 4>To be Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>to do a few tours this summer, like a few expeditions,

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<v Speaker 4>so if you sign up for one of those, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's a lot more expensive than a conference.

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<v Speaker 1>And once those get lined up, we'll post that link.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to make that caveat because every time

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned something like that, but what we get emails

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<v Speaker 1>for moments and people like where can I sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for Bobo's expedition.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna do it with prut North Georgia. I

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<v Speaker 4>tell you that, pru it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a frequently asked question, like some version of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bobo is on cameo if you wanted a personalized message,

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<v Speaker 1>So I will, for the third time put Bobo's cameo

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<v Speaker 1>link in the show. Notes for you, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>When you put that in last time, Pruit, I got

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<v Speaker 4>so many of you, I was having trouble keeping up.

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<v Speaker 3>We have tens of thousands of listeners. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was great. I'm not complaining. I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 4>was awesome. I got a sore throat from doing on

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<v Speaker 4>the other day. These guys they I messed up their

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<v Speaker 4>liked it, but they wanted a bigfoot, like a full

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<v Speaker 4>like ohioh. And I was like, I can't thrash my

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta pay a lot more than twenty bucks for

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<v Speaker 4>me to thrash my lungs, right. It hurts my throat

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<v Speaker 4>for hurts for weeks, you know, I can't talk right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, these that costs a lot more. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's for TV stuff or something like that. I busted

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<v Speaker 4>went out. I felt, you know, like with your throat.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys both song it's like that you push it

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<v Speaker 4>too far, just like you feel it just that whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how to explain it, but you get

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<v Speaker 4>that little pain come in like you just know you

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<v Speaker 3>Starts sounding like Bobby Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that in the field, Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm out for a week and I'm howling like

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<v Speaker 1>on a nightly basis by like you know, night five,

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<v Speaker 1>night six, I'm like, oh, yeah, Well, here is the

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<v Speaker 1>next written question. And it's specifically for Cliff, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can all probably like weigh in on this

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the question comes from Paolo Tourette. Cliff, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're logging footprints at the Blueberry Bog or Easter Island,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, do you log the directions of travel and

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<v Speaker 2>crop up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do, actually, yeah yeah. When I when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I take I take a direction to travel. I take

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<v Speaker 2>everything I can think of basically, you know, I write

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<v Speaker 2>just take the general direction of the trackway. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I did some documentation. Last June, I think it was

420
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<v Speaker 2>Shane Corson and I went out together to one of

421
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<v Speaker 2>our new locations, and that's not any it's not the Bog,

422
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<v Speaker 2>it's not it's not Easter Island or anything. We call

423
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<v Speaker 2>it the Outer Rim because it's so far away and

424
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<v Speaker 2>it takes a long time to get down there. But

425
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<v Speaker 2>but there's a there's some sasquatches there, you know, and

426
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<v Speaker 2>we we we found quite a few tracks. I think

427
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<v Speaker 2>we came back with eight tracks in one day, eight prints,

428
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<v Speaker 2>eight casts, I should say casts, and one of the

429
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<v Speaker 2>trackways came up out of the out of the river

430
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<v Speaker 2>valley below and so I went back like a week

431
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<v Speaker 2>later with with my employee Dave and his brother, and

432
00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.559
<v Speaker 2>we documented that trackway and I took all that sort

433
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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But you know, after about twenty thirty tracks,

434
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.799
<v Speaker 2>they're all going the same way, like, what are you doing?

435
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<v Speaker 3>Really?

436
00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.039
<v Speaker 2>You know they changed slightly here and there, but yeah, yeah,

437
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<v Speaker 2>I do take direction to travel, and that's actually how

438
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<v Speaker 2>for the museum members. They might remember a video that

439
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<v Speaker 2>I released, I think it was last June, where Melissa,

440
00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:28.400
<v Speaker 2>my wife, casts her very very first footprint ever. You know,

441
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<v Speaker 2>she's seen him in the ground before a couple of

442
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<v Speaker 2>them in the ground. But this is a really good one.

443
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<v Speaker 2>So I brought her out. We found it, and then

444
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<v Speaker 2>like a week later I brought Melissa out for a

445
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<v Speaker 2>date and we went out there and she cast it.

446
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<v Speaker 2>That's how we found That's how we found that one.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Because the stuff at the outer rim they seem to

448
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<v Speaker 2>have been coming out of one river valley going up

449
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<v Speaker 2>to a bog area, and in general most of the

450
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<v Speaker 2>most of the footprints were kind of tending that direction. Now,

451
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<v Speaker 2>of course, when they came up out it the river valley,

452
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<v Speaker 2>there was this old abandoned logging road, which is what

453
00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we were walking. They walked up and down the road.

454
00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:06.920
<v Speaker 2>They were all over that place, you know, so that

455
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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't make you know, if you took all the

456
00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:12.480
<v Speaker 2>directions of every single one of those prints, I'm not

457
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<v Speaker 2>sure it would really yield much information because of the

458
00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.759
<v Speaker 2>way these things forage, near as I can figure, you know,

459
00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:20.680
<v Speaker 2>it seems like they go to an area, then they

460
00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:22.839
<v Speaker 2>spread out in that area, and then they keep on

461
00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.680
<v Speaker 2>going the same general direction, you know, So some of

462
00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.319
<v Speaker 2>the data might just be like not junk data, but

463
00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of white noise in a way, you know. But

464
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<v Speaker 2>in general, I saw the tendency, the trend of the

465
00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:39.079
<v Speaker 2>direction of travel of this particular group, and I knew

466
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<v Speaker 2>I was finding them up by the swamp, and I

467
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<v Speaker 2>knew they were coming out of the river valley below.

468
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<v Speaker 2>So I just kind of, you know, connected the dots

469
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<v Speaker 2>and I went up and over the ridge that's around

470
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<v Speaker 2>this particular swamp, you know, and that's where we found

471
00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the track, the tracks actually that Melissa and I worked on.

472
00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she casts the print, but we backtrack that

473
00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>thing and it came down off the ridge just like

474
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<v Speaker 2>we expected, and we probably found another fifteen or twenty.

475
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<v Speaker 3>It was nice. It was a good date.

476
00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 4>You know.

477
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<v Speaker 2>We're just sitting on the log, enjoying remote wilderness essentially,

478
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.799
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and like even Melissa was like she's sitting

479
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.119
<v Speaker 2>there on the log, chilling and enjoying the beautiful view.

480
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And she goes, oh, yeah, there's one right there. I

481
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:22.960
<v Speaker 2>can see it from here, so there's another one behind it.

482
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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, you just pick these things out. It's

483
00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing when you when you start

484
00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.599
<v Speaker 2>learning about what you're looking for, that you know it

485
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.160
<v Speaker 2>stands out more, which is true.

486
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<v Speaker 3>Of everything.

487
00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, absolutely everything.

488
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Once you start learning about something and you know what

490
00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.359
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for and what there is, then you can

491
00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.240
<v Speaker 2>start seeing it. But if you're unaware of it, you're

492
00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.599
<v Speaker 2>not going to see it. But yeah, I absolutely do that.

493
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

494
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<v Speaker 1>I've seen individuals even take like compass bearings, like shooting

495
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<v Speaker 1>in asthmuth from like heel to toe to indicate direction.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I do, right, Yeah, like two hundred

497
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<v Speaker 2>and eighty degrees, you know that kind of thing. Yeah,

498
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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what I do.

499
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<v Speaker 3>Excellent, all right, let's roll on to the next question.

500
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<v Speaker 3>There it is.

501
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<v Speaker 4>Jeremy led Joyce. Hey, guys, I was wondering if you

502
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<v Speaker 4>have an idea of a sasquatch's home range and why

503
00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:13.720
<v Speaker 4>they may be more active at certain times of a year.

504
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.160
<v Speaker 4>I had an incident at our hunting camp, and other

505
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 4>people in the area have had stuff happen that was

506
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<v Speaker 4>reported the BFRO and on Big Foot Mapping project. This

507
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<v Speaker 4>one or group, not sure over the year, seems to

508
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:28.480
<v Speaker 4>be in a ten mile radius. Thanks guys. Yeah, you

509
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 4>got that whole little study you guys out of Oklahoma.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Well there's that.

511
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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you're talking about the home range

512
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<v Speaker 1>of an animal, it's entirely dependent on the environment in

513
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 1>which that animal resides. And so the example that I

514
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<v Speaker 1>often use would be black bears, because that's a pretty

515
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>analogous mammal, being that they're large, generalized dominiv wares. So

516
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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at something like southern Appalachia, especially the

517
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>temperate rainforest portion of it's about one hundred and thirty

518
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>five thousand square miles. The average home range of the

519
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 1>average adult male black bear in that part of southern

520
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Apple Aatcha is roughly sixteen to eighteen square miles. If

521
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you take that same sized bear, you know, the average

522
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>adult male black bear, and you go up somewhere like Pennsylvania,

523
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Studies there showed that they have a home range more

524
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>into like thirty five square miles. And that's still Appalachia,

525
00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that's still eastern deciduous forest. But given the density of

526
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>food resources and how they're distributed, it takes thirty five

527
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.319
<v Speaker 1>square miles of that Appalachian forest to provide the same

528
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>amount of food that only sixteen to eighteen square miles

529
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<v Speaker 1>of Southern Appalachia forest provides. And then you can transpose

530
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<v Speaker 1>that to like the inner Mountain West, where their ranges

531
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>are significantly larger because the resources are more distributed. So

532
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<v Speaker 1>in places like that they might be anywhere from like

533
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>seventy five to one hundred square miles. In the Pacific Northwest,

534
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it could be anywhere from fifty to seventy five square miles.

535
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about essentially the same animal requiring vastly different

536
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>spans of geographic space in order to sustain itself. So

537
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>it would first depend on like, well, are these sasquatches

538
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in southern apple Lata or the Pacific Northwest or the

539
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Washitas or the Rockies or whatever the case may be.

540
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So there's probably some rough estimate that you could make.

541
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<v Speaker 1>Another interesting thing about the mammalian caloric intake needs is

542
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't scale linearly with size, so it's not

543
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>a one to one relationship. Now that's true within a

544
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>given species. So for example, if you had a species

545
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of monkey with a wide variety of size range, one

546
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>individual weighing one hundred pounds would need less space than

547
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>two individuals weighing fifty pounds to feed itself versus to

548
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 1>feed themselves. So there's a whole lot of factors you

549
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>have to take in here. So with Sasquatches, you could say, well,

550
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>they're roughly three to four times the mass of a

551
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>black bear. Does that mean they need roughly three to

552
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>four times the home range? Probably not, because again it

553
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't scale linearly, so it really just depends. I mean,

554
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the ten mile radius is a pretty large area if

555
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about square mileage. I think if you're looking

556
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>at something like seventy to eighty square miles, that's only

557
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I think like a four point five or four point

558
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>six mile radius from a center point. So it really

559
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>just depends, and I don't think any of us know.

560
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 1>All we could say is that they're probably pretty large.

561
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I do think seventy to eighty square miles would be

562
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>on the small end, and that would be in places

563
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:18.559
<v Speaker 1>like southern Appalachia or the Washutaw's extremely rich environments. You

564
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>could call that a liberal estimate, And the reason I

565
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>would say it's liberal rather than conservative is because the

566
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>smaller the home range, the more ranges can fit in

567
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a given area, so the larger the population could be.

568
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So that's a pretty liberal gas because you could fit

569
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Sasquatches into southern Apalachia if each individual

570
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of a given age and sex and size only needs

571
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>seventy to eighty square miles, but who knows, because that

572
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>will also differ radically between the sexes. Going back to

573
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>black bears in Appalachia, the males need sixteen to eighteen

574
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>square miles, the females need four to six square miles.

575
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Siberian tigers, the males usually cover somewhere around fifteen hundred

576
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 1>square kilometers and the females cover about four hundred square kilometers.

577
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 3>So there's that disparity too. So that's a.

578
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Long winded way of saying nobody knows, but it's it's

579
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>probably pretty large. And a ten mile radius is a

580
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty large area. So but if you're in a place

581
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that you've had activity and others have to, I'd say

582
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you're in the right spot, and that's all that matters.

583
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And from the place where you are now, I

584
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>mean wherever that is, you've got to start casting footprints

585
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>and finding the footprints and trying to figure out which

586
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>animals are there and which animals are consistently there. Because again,

587
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 2>our areas, you know, like I've got three or four

588
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>areas that I'm working, and I don't think there's a

589
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of overlap in the sasquatches in there, you know,

590
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>which is interesting to me because I'm trying to nail

591
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>down how big their range is and with their social structure.

592
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>That's those are the questions that I find interesting. So

593
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm working on. And you got to You've

594
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 2>got to look for the footprints. You got to cast

595
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>them because you're going to see patterns in them and

596
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>you can start piecing together. Are these the same individuals?

597
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Is this a family group? That kind of thing. It's

598
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>not easy to do. It takes a lot of time

599
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of dedication and a lot of consistency.

600
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I go. I mean I say it all the time.

601
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I go every single week. You know, this week I

602
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>don't even have time to go because I'm building that

603
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>thing in the barn I was talking about earlier in

604
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>this episode. So on Thursday when I when I go,

605
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I have to wake up a couple hours before daylight

606
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to get out there because I you know, my buddy

607
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>who's helping me build this thing out out in the

608
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>barn is going to be over atten noon. So I

609
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>got to get out there and get back by noon,

610
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>so that the consistency has to be there. You know,

611
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, if you really want to find tracks,

612
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>you got it. You got to get out there. And

613
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>if you want to learn about their territory range, you

614
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>have to look at the footprints, because how do you

615
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 2>know which ones are there? Citing reports don't tell you

616
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 2>very much. They tell you that the animals are present,

617
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>but you got to get footprints, because we can't just

618
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and look at a sasquatch and say, oh,

619
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>that's the same one I saw last week. But you

620
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>can do that with footprints. You can do that with

621
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>footprints once you start getting familiar with them. And maybe

622
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not one hundred percent, you know, but then I

623
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>talk about it all the time. In our spot Easter Island,

624
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>we very often find, very often find a twelve inch

625
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 2>which I now I know is eleven and a half

626
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>because I got a couple of cli prints, but a

627
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>twelve inch individual and a fourteen inch individual, and we

628
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>almost and by the way, the fourteen is also a

629
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 2>thirteen and a half in reality, because again we got

630
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>a clearer print now. But we're usually sixty seventy percent

631
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>of the time find those two animals associated with each other,

632
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe we'll find the twelve inch and then a

633
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>couple hundred yards down the same road, we'll find the

634
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>fourteen like that kind of stuff, sometimes even right together.

635
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Over at the outer rim that I was mentioning earlier,

636
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 2>we have another fourteen, and we have an eight eight

637
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>or nine inch footprint somewhere in there, so it's almost

638
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>certainly a different animal. And of course the big males

639
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>almost nothing. We almost never find their footprints, which is

640
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>really interesting. I have found what I considered to be

641
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the male at East t Island. I found it this

642
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 2>past fall. It's about fifteen fifteen and a half inches.

643
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Could there be more than one fourteen inch? Absolutely there

644
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 2>absolutely could, But for now there's enough data to kind

645
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 2>of hobble together a rough hypothesis that is the same

646
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>female and the same juvenile wandering around together, and until

647
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason to think otherwise. You know, I think

648
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a reasonable gas, which is all I'm trying to

649
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>do at this point. But now that you have an

650
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>area of interest, keep going back, and my God, start

651
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>looking for footprints.

652
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>It's the most important.

653
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Thing you can do to learn about the species. The

654
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>single most important thing is to look for footprints.

655
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

656
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back after these messages.

657
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>This question comes from Gear White, and Gary asks high Cliff,

658
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>how would I know if I hear a scream that

659
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't you, Bobo or Moneymaker.

660
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 4>Associated smells yeah.

661
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, If it smells terrible, then it's probably one of us.

662
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 6>You know.

663
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 2>This brings up a good point actually, something to talk

664
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>about here about this because it sounds like he's kind

665
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>of jesting, you know, which is fine. I don't mind

666
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 2>it a bit because obviously it probably wouldn't be any

667
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>of us, but sasquatches sound like people, you know. Just

668
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>recently on the on the membership of the museum, I

669
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>posted a video. It's kind of interesting. I shared it

670
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>with Matt prut Bobo. I don't know if I sent

671
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>it to you or not. This guy that in Tennessee

672
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that goes around or is Kentucky and he goes and

673
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>he looks around for mind shafts and films and he's

674
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>just like this YouTube guy. That's what he likes to do.

675
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And he's little empire on it, you know, and it's

676
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool. It's kind of the same sort of

677
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>thing I would love to do in the woods if

678
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I was wandering around. But he's out there alone doing

679
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 2>the thing, or presumably he's out there alone. I mean,

680
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>his other videos seem to be alone. So he's out

681
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>there poking around and and he's looking inside this this

682
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>barred up mind shaft. You know, Oh, this would be

683
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool and blah blah blah. And behind them

684
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>is a noise and it's it's either a sasquatch or

685
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>a human. There's it sounds like a person, like ah,

686
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 2>something like that. And you know, I put it out

687
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>for the members of the NABC there and then they

688
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>listen to it and and they're chiming in. You know,

689
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a person, that's not a person. That's definitely a sasquatch.

690
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>That's definitely a person, and that's a bird. And you know,

691
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.839
<v Speaker 2>everybody's opinion that everybody enjoys, you know, kind of chiming

692
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 2>in like that. It's astonishing, you know, because I think

693
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>it's fair to say that all of us here, at

694
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 2>least on on on the podcast here, all of us

695
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 2>have heard sasquatches vocalized kind of a lot. I mean,

696
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of I'd be hard to put a number on it,

697
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>but you know, even at like, you know, I heard

698
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I've heard them many many times outside of finding Bigfoot

699
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and finding Bigfoot, that was basically the whole show is

700
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to hear them vocalize, and we were successful, you know,

701
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>like half the time maybe or something like that.

702
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 4>The microphones weren't so successful, but are pretty Yeah.

703
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So we've heard them kind of a lot, you know,

704
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's astonishing how similar they can sound to human beings.

705
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard them yell hey, I've heard them all. Oh,

706
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>they sound like people, and it makes sense because they're

707
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>built like people, you know, they they would probably have

708
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 2>a very similar you know, vocal apparatus. Yeah, they because

709
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think that you know, with Bobo, Matt and

710
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I are doing all that kind of stuff, you know,

711
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>howling and screaming and doing our thing out there, it

712
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.319
<v Speaker 2>gives the impression that that's the only sounds they make.

713
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Now they don't. They can sound a lot like indistinguishable

714
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.599
<v Speaker 2>from people, and that's just outside of their mimicry that

715
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm confident that they do, where they can imitate people's

716
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>voices or chainsaws or car door slamming and all that stuff.

717
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 2>They sound so much like people. It's just astonishing sometimes.

718
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 2>So although if you did hear Bobo or me or

719
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 2>money Maker in the woods and you're say in, I

720
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know Texas or you know Kentucky, that's not us.

721
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think it's important to categorize the sounds

722
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that uniquely identify them as sasquatches, sounds that just humans

723
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 1>don't or very often just can't produce. Because anything that

724
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 1>is human, like you will all unless you see the

725
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 1>thing that produced that, you will always be left, you know,

726
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>agonizing on whether or not that was a person or

727
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch, you know, And it's it's a tricky thing.

728
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 3>I've had a number.

729
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Of those experiences where to this day, and some of

730
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 1>them were, you know, eighteen years ago, where I'm like, god,

731
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>what was that?

732
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 3>You know? So it is a frustrating thing.

733
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well should we hop to the next question then?

734
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I think, so there we go.

735
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 4>From Connie Barkin, I'd really love to get your take

736
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 4>on the link between code's and bigfoot I've stiled upon

737
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 4>some festing theory suggesting that bigfoots may actually utilize coadies

738
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 4>for hunting, almost as if they've trained them to be

739
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 4>their hunting partners. As always keep it squatchy. Yeah, we've

740
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 4>we've kicked this around. I've always thought like maybe they

741
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 4>could grab it, you know, kyot puppy and you know,

742
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 4>have it bond to them and you know, kind of cooperate.

743
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 4>But then I talk to other people say no, they

744
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 4>absolutely will kill and eat coyotes, and other people say,

745
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 4>well they Some people say that the kyotes are scavenging

746
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 4>from the big pitchers. Other people think that the bigfoots

747
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 4>are going and stealing deer kills from the coyotes. So

748
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 4>there's there's not one train of thought on that, and

749
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 4>like no one, no one knows for sure. But the

750
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 4>guy Fred and Alaska with the Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch, he's

751
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 4>got like ten or twelve reports people saying they've seen

752
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>wolves and bigfoots like cooperatively hunting like caribou and moose

753
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.119
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that.

754
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I always wondered if sasquatch has preyed upon coyotes. And

755
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>what really started that train of thought for me was,

756
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, there there always seemed to be some sort

757
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of like symbiosis that people had floated or some sort

758
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 1>of like connection beyond just being like you know, sympatrick

759
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>in these environments, you know, occurring in the same environments

760
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. But when we had Ken Walker on,

761
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>he told the story about the two brothers that the

762
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>trappers that had that massive trapping lease on Crown Land

763
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 1>in Canada. They talked about certain traps being raided. You know,

764
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to catch fur bearing animals, not only

765
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 1>because their passion was trapping, but you know certain animals

766
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 1>or they have a certain monetary value, and these traps

767
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>were getting raided consistently, and so they would place out

768
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>coyote carcasses, according to Ken to sort of be here's

769
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>something else that you can come raid, you know, rather

770
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.199
<v Speaker 1>than breaking our traps and taking these more I guess

771
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>precious animals, here's an alternative. And they said that once

772
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 1>that started, the coyotes would always be taken. They'd find

773
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>them partially consumed, as if that was a sought after

774
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 1>food resource. And if you've ever been out in the field,

775
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you guys have, but to the listeners, if

776
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 1>you've ever been out in the field and done in Ohio,

777
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 1>how if there's coyotes within earshot, they'll respond in seconds.

778
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>And so if I was a coyote hunter, I would

779
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>just go out and how like a sasquatch figure out

780
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>where the coyotes are and then go in that direction,

781
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and so so they wouldn't be hard to find. They

782
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>might make for an easy meal. You know, there's a

783
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of them, so they're plentiful. They're ubiquitous across all

784
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of North America pretty much, and they're very, very numerous,

785
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I wonder if that's part of it. It's

786
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>at least worth thinking about that they prey on those things.

787
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, anything's on the menu. Man, If they're eating skunks

788
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 2>and possums, like coyotes are probably a delicacy. Everybody's so

789
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>hyper focused on deer as the prey item for sasquatch,

790
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, sure, I think that might be the choice

791
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of a sasquatch if they had to choose. But at

792
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, I think anything's on the menu.

793
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 2>And look at the way they're built, and look at

794
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>how good they are at catching things and how fast

795
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 2>they can move. But everything I was aloso to look

796
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>how large they are, they would have to utilize any

797
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of meat. Essentially, I think everything from caterpillars and

798
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.920
<v Speaker 2>insects to you know, black bear. If they can get it,

799
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>and there's a small handful of reports that strongly suggests

800
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>they hunt black bear, So why not coyotes, you know,

801
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>And of course I'm a big fan of the idea

802
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that sasquatches are also power scavenging, which is a known

803
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>hominin strategy. Hominins did that, and of course nowadays other

804
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>animals do it too, you know, lions do it, and

805
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff with power scavenging is waiting

806
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 2>for other animals to do the hard work of killing

807
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 2>it and bringing it down, and then you just kind

808
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>of waltz in and push the little guys away and

809
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>take what you want and leave the rest of the

810
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 2>kill to the people who actually earned it, the animals

811
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 2>that actually earned it. That's power scavenging. So I think

812
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>sasquatches would definitely do that because being as smart as

813
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 2>they are, they will not expend more calories than necessary

814
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>in order to obtain their own calories.

815
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's also referred to as klepto parasitism ooh, because

816
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 1>they're stealing, you know, like a kleptomaniac. They're stealing the

817
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>kills of other animals. And there's a number of animals

818
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>that do practice a kleptoparas. Oh yeah, I think coyotes.

819
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, they are omnivorous and they will bring down prey.

820
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're in the order of Carnivora, but that's

821
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 1>a dentition based order, same reason that pandas are in

822
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the order of Carnivora, even though they're bamboo specialists. But

823
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>because of the dentition, they're in that order. But I

824
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know how often coyotes are making significant kills. I'm

825
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>sure we could look that up, but it's not like

826
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>they're making deer kills frequently enough that a sasquatch could

827
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 1>rely solely on that versus, you know, if it wants food,

828
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it's probably easier to get a coyote than.

829
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>To wait for them to get the food for them. Okay.

830
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 2>And then this question here, which is the last of

831
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 2>our written questions, by the way, comes from Howard Williams,

832
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and Howard asks, Hi, guys, love your show. This is

833
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a question about the societal value of mysterious creatures. Why

834
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<v Speaker 2>does this need for mystery persist in human cultures? Also,

835
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 2>what are the implications the mystery is solved. I think

836
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we probably all agree it would not be good for Bigfoot.

837
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>But would it be good for us to lose the mystery?

838
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 2>My gut says that the loss would surprise us and

839
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the world would be a little more intolerable. Please keep

840
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 2>up the good work and always keep it squatchy.

841
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<v Speaker 1>I think that once you solve the mystery of whether

842
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 1>or not sasquatches exist, there's an indefinite number of new

843
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>mysteries about sasquatches that arise, and those answers are not

844
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 1>going to come much faster, and they're not going to

845
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>come much easier than they already have. And so some

846
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of these questions that will arise after recognition will still

847
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>take decades to answer and to answer fully to the

848
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 1>satisfaction of scientists and academics and to society for that matter.

849
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 1>And so this, I think this is something we've all

850
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>encountered many many times as like, oh, what's the thing solved?

851
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>You won't have anything to do, like yeah, right, you know,

852
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 1>you could just imagine a handful of questions, like how

853
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>large is their home range? Like we just found out, okay,

854
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 1>well you get a rough estimate, Well, how large is

855
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>their home range in southern apple Achoe? What about central

856
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Apple Acho? What about the rockies, you know, all the

857
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>places I just mentioned in response to the previous question,

858
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 1>how do they form social units? What's their gestation period,

859
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 1>what's their developmental period? When do they separate from their parents?

860
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.519
<v Speaker 1>These things, they're not going to come easily. We won't

861
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 1>have all those answers. I bet we won't even have

862
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>all those answers in the first three decades of them

863
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>being discovered. I mean, we just covered in the last episode,

864
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a mysterious quote unquote mysterious new behavior just

865
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 1>now being documented in squirrels, you know, the North American squirrel,

866
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the most common thing you could encounter out in the wild,

867
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're still making new discoveries about them. And so

868
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine the treasure trove, the bottomless well of information that

869
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>these things could give us. It's really it's unfathomable. We'll

870
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>never lose that.

871
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And there's no shortage of mysteries outside the Bigfoot thing either,

872
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, whether you're looking at like non terrestrial life

873
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>or you know, extraterrestrial life or inter dimensional things, or

874
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 2>just like the world abounds with mystery, you know, and

875
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot is Bigfoot thing is just one of them,

876
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>just one of many, many, many, things you know, and

877
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 2>of course a lot of the stuff that you know

878
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:23.519
<v Speaker 2>that people are chasing around the whole in search of

879
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 2>style stuff. There's ridiculous nonsense for the most part, but

880
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that's that's just a lot of fun, you know, the

881
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>ancient alien kind of nonsense that's on TV and everything

882
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that's us fun to think about, but not a whole

883
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of people really really take it seriously. But they're

884
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and outside of those mysteries, it's great that there's so

885
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 2>many cool things like the I was just reading this

886
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 2>past week about how some real progress has been made

887
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 2>uniting quantum physics and Einsteinian you know, relativistic physics. Like

888
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that's great, that's awesome. That's been they've been chasing that

889
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 2>for you know, eighty years, one hundred years or something

890
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, not a physicists, I just like

891
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the subject. So there's so much real mystery grounded in

892
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>science that there's always going to be something to push

893
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>forward into. I think we lose sight of this. We

894
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>as a culture, we as a species, lose.

895
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Sight of this.

896
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>We are in our infancy of understanding the world at

897
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>this point. Remember germs, for example, germs were kind of

898
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>discovered in the late eighteen hundreds. That's like one hundred

899
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and twenty one hundred fifty years ago. We didn't know

900
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>about germs. You know, no one in seventeen hundred had

901
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 2>heard dinosaurs, for example. You know, we don't know much,

902
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.039
<v Speaker 2>but we think we're all fancy because everybody's got a

903
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 2>cell phone in their pocket and we think that's pretty cool.

904
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, science is really really good at inventing

905
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 2>bubbles and toys, so we think we're all that. But

906
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>we have such limited understanding of the way things work

907
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 2>and how things piece together. We almost know nothing. But

908
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>we've come so far since like the steam engine, you know,

909
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, whatever the wheel, you know, whatever tool you

910
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>want to put out in the printing press, whatever the

911
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>big milestones are. You know, we've come so far from

912
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>those in our own very limited scope of time, you know,

913
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>because we live like seventy eighty years. We're done and

914
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 2>we check out and we leave and whatever, and that's

915
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>a blink of an eye. But we think we've come

916
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>so far because as a couple of generations to go,

917
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>we practically know nothing compared to where we're gonna be

918
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>an eight hundred years or something like that if if

919
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>our species even survives that long, we're still in our

920
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 2>infancy of understanding the universe. There is no shortage of

921
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 2>wonder and beauty in the universe.

922
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't even understand ourselves. There's nothing more mysterious than

923
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the totality of the mind, the psyche, and especially the

924
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>nature of consciousness. We are ourselves a nearly unsolvable mystery.

925
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, we'll always be women in mystery, and

926
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm still trying to solve the mystery that is our

927
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>good man. Bobo definitely a mysterious character too.

928
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

929
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 6>Bobo will be right back after these messages.

930
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he did specifically ask about the societal

931
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>value of mysterious creatures, though.

932
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 4>I think it's the way to teach lessons, right, Like

933
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 4>myths and lore like is a good way to impart

934
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 4>things that children teach them lessons, you know, about safety

935
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

936
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so complicated that you know, there are

937
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>elements of myth that are moral lessons, you know, and

938
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they might be even lesser than moral lessons. They might

939
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 1>just be to your point, like encoded information that's necessary

940
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to know about the environment that you live in and

941
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 1>the living inhabitants of that environment, and how to respond

942
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 1>to them, and how to interact with them or how

943
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 1>to avoid them. In many cases, in other elements, mythological

944
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 1>characters are characterized or personified descriptions phenomenological descriptions of nature itself,

945
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 1>whether that's natural events. Think about all the personifications of

946
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 1>thunder and lightning as a phenomena, for example, being given

947
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 1>some agency or being the product of some conscious agent

948
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that's exerting its will. I mean, there's no simple explanation

949
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 1>for what myth is and where it comes from, because

950
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it applies to such a range of things. But because

951
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're persons, you know, we tend to see

952
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 1>other phenomena as personified, and so we we represent those

953
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 1>phenomena as characters. And those characters have their own philosophies,

954
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 1>they have their own views, they have their own wills,

955
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>their own perceptions, et cetera. You know, if you think

956
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 1>about the nature of the storm, for example, and well,

957
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>how do you character what does the storm want? Well,

958
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the objective reality would tell you that, like, the storm

959
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 1>has no desire and no moral aim. But in order

960
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to describe the experience of the storm. In a story,

961
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you personify it, so those things happen. There's also mythological

962
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 1>characters that are rooted in reality that might have been

963
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>based on living people, that as time marches on, those

964
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 1>people get mythologized and represented as mythological characters even though

965
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>they had a rooting in reality. You know, there's characters

966
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>from the twentieth century that are mythologized that have a

967
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>whole host of like apocryphal stories about them that people

968
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that are demonstrably not true. But certain living individuals,

969
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, are great receptacles for myths, so we're apt

970
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to believe such things about them, that they had certain capabilities,

971
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>or that they accomplished certain things, or whatever the case

972
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 1>may be. And so the societal value is that it

973
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 1>provides information across a host of different domains that because

974
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's metaphorical in nature, it's more easily accessible because not

975
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>only is it metaphorical, but it's delivered in the form

976
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 1>of a story, a narrative, and you know narratives, we're

977
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we're storytelling creatures. There's a great book by a guy

978
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>named Jonathan Gottschalk called The Storytelling Animal.

979
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>That's absolute must read.

980
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite books I've read in the

981
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 1>last five years, I would say, And people will remember

982
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>information with an higher degree of accuracy if it's delivered

983
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to them in the form of a story then merely

984
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>propositions or like a bullet point list of facts. And

985
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to think too. The other value of myths

986
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and the creatures, you know, the personified characters within them,

987
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is that if you get intimately familiar with the canon

988
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of myths, that teach that whole host of lessons. Like

989
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't have enough time in one lifespan to learn

990
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 1>all these things and figure them out for yourself. You'll

991
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 1>die in the process because you'll make too many errors.

992
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But if you develop an intimate familiarity with the cannon

993
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of myths and the characters within them, then you basically

994
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>have a guide book, you know, a cultural guidebook for

995
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>how to deal with certain situations. Knowing these myths and

996
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>understanding those character and their motivations and their own sort

997
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 1>of like philosophies, provides all that. So the value is

998
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>limitless when we're talking about that mysterious creatures happen to

999
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 1>be one manifestation, whether or not you know, even if

1000
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>such creatures exist in the environment, they get borrowed and

1001
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 1>used to be a receptacle for the mythological motif. In

1002
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the same way that the bear has lessons to tell,

1003
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>or the raven, or the coyote or the tiger. Doesn't

1004
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 1>mean that the animal is as described by the myth,

1005
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't mean that because it's a myth, that

1006
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the animal doesn't exist. It's just that you need receptacles

1007
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 1>to hang these motifs or tropes on, and sasquatches and

1008
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>other mysterious creatures make great receptacles for that, among other things.

1009
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:43.519
<v Speaker 4>What the hell did you just say?

1010
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm ranting again.

1011
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Now, Well, when we started talking about things that

1012
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>we're super stoked about, we keep on going.

1013
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Man, that's we love it.

1014
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I think the world would get a lot more exciting

1015
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>if sasquatches were definitely proven to exist, don't you.

1016
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 4>I think so for sure? Yes, because the missy is

1017
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 4>not solved and the missy is just wide open.

1018
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, there's not gonna be a time where my

1019
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 2>curiosity is satisfied about the sasquat.

1020
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. We still watch documentaries on Great Whites. I mean

1021
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 4>they're finding out new stuff. Yeah, but I mean, it

1022
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.599
<v Speaker 4>still has a lot of big fishes swimming around. You know,

1023
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 4>we watched I'll watch hours of that stuff every summer

1024
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 4>when Sharky comes out.

1025
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Now, it seems to me that if bigfoots were discovered today,

1026
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 2>that's when the fun starts, you know that that's where

1027
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 2>we actually start making some real progress.

1028
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I guess that wraps it up for this week and

1029
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 4>anything an it's oh, you know, I got something I

1030
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 4>need to add my buddies on the Chamber of Commerce

1031
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 4>up in Willacirk, California, where the big Foot Museum is

1032
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 4>and you know, the original hotspot of Bigfoot phenomena, there's

1033
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 4>the famous Jim McClaren statue that most of you are

1034
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 4>familiar with, the Bigfoot statue. Cardot's real blockie. So one

1035
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 4>that looks it's the big silt I saw for my

1036
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 4>first say, looked a lot like that. It was that

1037
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 4>it's rotting out again. They replaced the feet a few

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, but the whole thing has got to be replaced.

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<v Speaker 4>They're looking for someone a they're looking for someone that

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<v Speaker 4>might donate a log that's big enough to this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>section of a log to carve a new Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 4>they're also seeing it. There's anyone that's willing to carve it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they got real limited budget. They're looking for donations.

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<v Speaker 4>People can write it off whatever. But yeah, if they're

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<v Speaker 4>interested in either donating the piece of wood or carving it,

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<v Speaker 4>you can contact Bigfoot Cannabis in Willow Creek, California.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I findally can put in the show notes too.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, Yeah, my buddy Callin owns Bigfoot Cannabis up there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just consultant for designing the bigfoot gummies he

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<v Speaker 4>has for the bigfoot shape gums because he had like

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<v Speaker 4>a human foot. I was like, no, dude, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to do it like that. And so he's it's more

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<v Speaker 4>of a classic big foot, you know, full heel, more

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<v Speaker 4>straight or toes across.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most authentic bigfoot gummy in the cannabis market

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<v Speaker 3>for foot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, but morphology.

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<v Speaker 3>Good job, Bobo, good job.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you doing what I can do what I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say yet another epic contribution of Bobo

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<v Speaker 1>to the realm of sasquatchery.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about a mythological man who's still alive.

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<v Speaker 3>There he is, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I kind of was hinting at that, is that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who are so large in life that

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<v Speaker 1>like myths just fit them perfectly, and they get mythologized

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<v Speaker 1>and people just believe it, you know, because like, why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course he's capable of that. Of course he's Bobo

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I know anyone else in real

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<v Speaker 1>life who is that way, but Bobo's definitely the one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you're talking about, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's part of your charm.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. You have no idea of the magic that you spind.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, I don't see I don't see magic. I

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<v Speaker 4>just see chaos and idiocy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, your divine, your your endless line of divine accident

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<v Speaker 2>leads you, leads you in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go. Okay, folks, Well, that's it for another

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<v Speaker 4>week of Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff, Bobo and Matt,

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<v Speaker 4>and we appreciate you tuning in. We're gonna now join

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<v Speaker 4>our Patreon family for another episode that will come out

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<v Speaker 4>on Thursday. So until next week, y'all, keep it Squatchy.

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