WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.600 Time to hit the pitch on the drive. The RSL 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:05.240 Insider today and every day is brought to you by 3 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:08.400 beer Bar Head Downtown for watch parties and game day 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.480 shuttles to the stadium. More at beer BARSLC dot com. 5 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:15.960 Til for RSL this week. 6 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.519 It potentially is the busiest stretch of the entire season. 7 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.280 After a little bit of a kind of. 8 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:26.559 Light June into July, we've gone and the lads, as 9 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.039 we say here for the lads have really turned the page, 10 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.839 unbeaten in eight of their last nine. It's League's Cup 11 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.479 action coming up on Wednesday before they return. MLS play 12 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.039 in New York on Saturday, and the head coach, Pablo 13 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:41.520 Master Money on a Monday afternoon, Happy Monday, Pops. 14 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:42.119 How we doing. 15 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:44.320 Great? Bud? 16 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:47.200 Appreciate the time as always, so when it comes to 17 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.920 the League's Cup, I know you guys prioritize everything. 18 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:51.159 I know. 19 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:52.799 I know you want to win trophies. 20 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:58.640 What sort of dynamic or challenge that is a little 21 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.200 bit different does this tournament kind of face you as 22 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.319 the manager? And then intertwined in the question when it 23 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:08.000 simply comes down to how busy the schedule is, how 24 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:09.319 are you guys balancing this out. 25 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:12.159 Yeah, So I think the way they format a determined 26 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.560 this year has been actually pretty good where they the 27 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.519 first leg of it, the first three games are you know, 28 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.400 within ten days and so you know what you're up against, 29 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.000 so you can really just focus on the first stage 30 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.799 of the League's Cup. So I think that's a big 31 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:28.680 improvement from from last year, which was pretty which was 32 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:32.280 intertwined with league games. So here we've just taken ten 33 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.280 games to focus in on our three opponents, and so 34 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:36.680 I think that part was good. So I think the 35 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.959 biggest balance is again, you know, we run a pay 36 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:43.599 best for forward in these tournaments and we won. We 37 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.719 run the risk of really putting our players in precarious 38 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:52.239 situations from the just fatigue perspective, which then increases the 39 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:56.719 odds of injuries and performances. And so I think that's 40 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.239 been the toughest thing because these games are coming and 41 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.640 fast and we want to keep running. You know, a 42 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.000 group that's been doing really well the last you know, 43 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.759 seven eight weeks and building that chemistry and and that connection, 44 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.080 but you but you just run into you know, it's 45 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.280 it's you know, it's really difficult from that perspective. But 46 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.400 but the guys have been you know, I think we've 47 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.759 been having it. We've found a good balance with the 48 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.039 groups that we've been playing. The guys have been doing 49 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.759 really well. But you know, I think for this game 50 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.319 we're gonna have to give a couple of guys breathers 51 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.919 and give other guys an opportunity. And I think that 52 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.280 rotation has worked pretty well. But uh, you know, we 53 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.719 got one game left, and uh, you know, we want 54 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.400 to make sure we ended on the right now. 55 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.000 Is it lega MX or lega MkIS you got to 56 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:42.319 help me? 57 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:43.560 I hear it right, you're both. 58 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.759 Uh, it just depends on you know. I think for 59 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.960 us it's lega MX. For them it's legams. 60 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.560 What did you just throw a third option at me? Cheez? 61 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.680 Yeah, because the thing is M in Spanish is M right, 62 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:02.639 but they say it really fast, so it sounds like 63 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.599 m eks. Okay, so it's it's m makis. 64 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.840 Yeah, okay, all right, fair enough. 65 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.560 However, your tongue fels on the day. If you want 66 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:11.960 to roll it, you know, if you want to just 67 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.199 let it go, it's league amakis. 68 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:16.199 I'm going league at Max Pops. 69 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.439 I'm just That's That's how I've always rolled that's how 70 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.919 I'm that's so I'm gonna continue role. So let's let's 71 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.840 talk about the first two matches. The Club America, who 72 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.120 massive club. I think they finished second in this tournament 73 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.319 before and obviously very famous. It almost felt like a 74 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.800 road game, so many Club America fans and I'll tell 75 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.280 you what man I mean, we'll. 76 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.159 Get to you know, the unfortunate ending with the San 77 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:39.840 Luis game. 78 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.199 The Ratha Cabral performance was a little romando ish when 79 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.080 it came to the you know, him stepping up and 80 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.520 saving those pks must have been a great moment. Would 81 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.840 you like most about your team's win against Club America, Well, 82 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:52.439 you know, I. 83 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.199 Think the biggest thing was the way the guys competed 84 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.759 against the big team. You know. I think we've you know, 85 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.960 we've we've done them and and league in the last 86 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.159 recent weeks. But going up against the Juggernaut to start 87 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.960 this competition, I thought the guys put their best foot 88 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.080 forward and play the heck of a game on both 89 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.039 sides of the ball, and you know, to concede with 90 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.520 whatever it was like fifteen seconds left of injury time. 91 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.639 I think it was a gut punch for the top 92 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.040 of performance we had. And then then penalty kicks, Rosa 93 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:24.439 stepped up and and you know, carried the team and 94 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.040 and and did what he's capable of doing, and that 95 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.000 was fantastic. So that was that. That was a really 96 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.360 good performance where I felt like, man, it was just 97 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.079 it was the last play of the game, and I 98 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.079 knew we just had to make sure that we were 99 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.399 you know, on point. But to be fair to them, 100 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.480 you know, rots and the tape back, I mean, there 101 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.439 wasn't much where they could go with that ball, and 102 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.319 in the little space the guy had to shoot, I 103 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.959 mean he crushed it. So you know, tipped your cap 104 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.319 off to them, but felt gut it for the guys. 105 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:54.319 And then moving over to the second game you played 106 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.360 in League's Cup, it was another really good game. The 107 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.839 San Luis game they got you in PK's what stood 108 00:04:58.839 --> 00:04:59.319 out most. 109 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.000 Yeah, I think again, I think this is where we 110 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.040 ran into a bit of fatigue. There's a few guys 111 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.600 out there that have been going you know, Saturday Wednesday 112 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:10.360 for a month now, and I think there's a bit 113 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.360 of tired legs. Early on, I think the first goal 114 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.680 we conceded was uncharacteristic, a bit of sloppy play with 115 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.240 the ball that transitioned into you know, sloppy playing about 116 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:22.360 the ball. And you know, they they you know, they 117 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.600 they tied up the game and then went on to 118 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.040 take the lead, you know. And I think, but the 119 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.199 interesting thing, Spence is, you know, we had an opportunity 120 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.720 to go to one and we didn't capitalize on a 121 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:36.480 PK and and then the momentum swung their way. They 122 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.920 scored a goal and minute. You know, but but in 123 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:42.120 both games, the way the guys have responded from really 124 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.199 tough moments, you know, being able to keep their heads 125 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.319 in the in the game after conceding in the last 126 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.680 player game against America and winning the PKS, and here 127 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.480 conceding a goal late but still staying in the game 128 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.439 and tying it up late, I think are really good 129 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.120 examples of the mentality of the group and and and 130 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.279 how we've come a long way from the start of 131 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.040 the year. And then obviously the PK was the PKS 132 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.120 were unfortunate. You know, PK's are a lot like a game. 133 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.120 You know, if you start with big momentum, whether it's 134 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.839 a goal or a save, it just makes you know, 135 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:14.480 it just makes it a lot easier for the next 136 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.360 next guy's going If you miss on the first one, 137 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.720 that goal shrinks a little bit and the goalkeeper gets 138 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.439 a lot bigger. So but I think we took a 139 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.759 lot of important moments in that game. We digested that 140 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:29.879 as a group today spent probably a good half hour 141 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.600 and change on, you know, managing moments to bring the 142 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.560 game under our control a little bit more. And the 143 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.600 guys are really receptive. And so now we have correctro 144 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.439 in this next game, which will be again another tough 145 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.079 game and one that hopefully we can take experiences from 146 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.240 the seven least game and applying to this next game. 147 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:49.759 Okay, what are you up against on Wednesday? 148 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:53.680 And you know, I started reading through the tiebreaker scenarios 149 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.120 and then I decided to go on and live my 150 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:58.879 life instead of continuing. So I can't sit here and 151 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.079 tell you that I'm extremely well versed on exactly what 152 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.839 you need to do to get through? Can you get 153 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.279 through if you go get all three on Wednesday and 154 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.519 and tell me about this side that you're playing against. 155 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.720 Yeah, so there's still a slim possibility that we can 156 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.360 get through. We need to take all three. P k's 157 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.199 are even the two points in PK's is not an option, 158 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.680 and then we're gonna need quite a bit of help, right, 159 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.600 I think we're gonna need the help from four or 160 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:30.600 five different teams, and in this competition, it can definitely happen. 161 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.439 So instead of worrying about all that stuff, just you know, 162 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.959 put a put a great group up there that's ready 163 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.000 to win the game and then let the chips fall 164 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.040 what they may. And as far as correctro there. They're 165 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.560 a team that, uh, you know, they haven't done well 166 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.439 in this tournament, but the decent and the last turn 167 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.480 in the last league play, and again, I think when 168 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:52.560 you come to this third game, it's it's really a 169 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:54.879 battle of attrition. I mean, because you know, I'm talking 170 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.959 to the coaches from the Mexican teams and Aaron saying like, 171 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.560 this is impossible. We don't even have a day to prepare, 172 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.720 and I'm saying, well, yeah, it's not like we haven't 173 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.079 actually day either. We're under the same thing. So so 174 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.759 I think, you know, I think players will be running 175 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.079 on fumes and it's really about this is a mentality 176 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.759 game for me. Obviously we're going to freshen it up, 177 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:17.560 but the expectation is is a team that wants it more, 178 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.680 that digs more, that believes more will be the team 179 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:21.399 that wins the game. 180 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:26.199 How, if at all, do those dynamics shape the eleven selection, 181 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:29.720 because it sounds like slim chance to advance. Uh, you 182 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.320 have put yourself back in the middle of the MLS 183 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.639 playoff chase and we'll get there. But also you want 184 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:38.080 to win and you hope that everything kind of falls 185 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.240 your way. So when it comes to all those dynamics, 186 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.200 it feels like pops that could go either way. You 187 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.840 want to rest your guys for the playoff chase or 188 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:46.120 you want to go all in and get three. 189 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:47.159 How do you balance that out? 190 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.039 Yeah, that's a great question. You know, I think there's 191 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.159 one way, and it's it's it's it's it's a bit 192 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.600 of a gamble, and I think we're you know that 193 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.600 that I'm willing to take it is have a few 194 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.480 prescribed subs that have time so that you can get 195 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:02.919 your best players on the field, but you can also 196 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.720 manage their load. Right, we got it. We got a 197 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.720 bunch of guys that are running in the red. But 198 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:10.440 if this were going to be a league game, a 199 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.159 midweek league game, which we're taken in as a MIDWEK 200 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.799 League game. You know, our our our toughest day of 201 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.399 the week of training would be would be Wednesday, and 202 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:24.240 that equates forty five minutes. Equates to our training session load, 203 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.519 not the emotional impact, not all the other stuff which 204 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:31.240 is which is also a load for this promote just 205 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.759 a physical output perspective, you know, having some prescribed changes 206 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:38.840 at halftime to keep the group fresh, but also have 207 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.600 your your your best players available to compete in this game. 208 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.440 I think as a as a good middle road and 209 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.000 where where it might where you might get caught with 210 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:48.879 that is obviously if you need to make some if 211 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.120 someone gets injured latent games, you might be under it. 212 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.679 But but I think you know, the guys that the 213 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.000 guys that we're playing the majority of the minutes are 214 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.759 have have been rested, are robust, and feel like it's 215 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.480 a it's a calculated risk that we're willing to take 216 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.240 to put ourselves in position to both get our best 217 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:09.360 players on the field, but also not put them through 218 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.440 the grinder as MLS league play continues thereafter. 219 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.120 I know it's a little bit of yesterday's news. 220 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.720 However, I was out of town last week and so 221 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.399 I haven't had a chance to talk to you on 222 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.720 air about the return of chi Cho and what that 223 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.200 was like, and also getting a win over a really 224 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.240 good San Jos, a team which is more important than anything. 225 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:31.679 But what was it like to have Chia Chho back 226 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:33.240 in the building and give me your thoughts on that win. 227 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.679 Yeah, it was strange. It was almost surreal, you know. 228 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.679 You know, I think Chie Scho having been in that 229 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.600 stadium all of last year and in the sea, you know, 230 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:47.159 his connection with with the fans, it was really peculiar. 231 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.840 And I think for me seeing him across the field 232 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.080 and knowing that he's cabled, you know, scoring goals from 233 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.879 nowhere was was obviously yeah, you know, it gave me 234 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.440 a bit of nerves, but the guys just really handled 235 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.240 themselves well. That played a great game. They knew what 236 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.639 the what they're up against him. He's got a lot 237 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.519 of friends in the locker room still, and so for me, 238 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.720 it was always interesting to see the dynamic when a 239 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.399 player of his magnitude comes back to the club, how 240 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.120 those players are going to respond, because obviously he was 241 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.879 the man when he was here, and those players looked 242 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.960 at him like the leader and the captain, and so 243 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.240 sometimes there's just almost subservient feel when when that player 244 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.600 comes back in a different team. But you wouldn't have 245 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.240 noticed that Chicha was with our group last year because 246 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:33.720 these guys, these guys played fantastic and and they didn't 247 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:36.360 take their foot off the gas from minute, you know, 248 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:38.919 from the first minute to the last. So really proud 249 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.440 of that performance. And then from from as far as 250 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.879 the collective, you know, obviously gave us a big three 251 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.519 points because they're they're they're right around where we are 252 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:51.320 on the table. And so again another big psychological hurdle 253 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:54.840 for us, you know, starting and second to last and 254 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:56.799 in the west and then kind of marching up and 255 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:58.879 so we got really good momentum going and it was 256 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.840 really good to get that result against you know, a 257 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.679 dynamic a team like San Jose and against our old 258 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:05.519 teammate in Chicha. 259 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:07.679 Did you have an opportunity to catch up with them 260 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.720 at all, and if so, what were those conversations like, Yeah, No, he. 261 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.200 Was really gracious, you know, he says, you know, obviously 262 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.080 he misses he misses not being here with the group. 263 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.759 You know, with the fans, the stadium, like it brought 264 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.720 back a lot of old feelings, but he was really 265 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.240 grateful for the time that he spent here with you know, 266 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.759 with with his teammates and the staff, and it was 267 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:33.639 kind of a welcome back, and you know, it was 268 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.799 it was a really strange It was really strange, but 269 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:40.000 you know, I think Chicho he's he's a real gracious 270 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.399 human being and and shared that with not only myself 271 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.440 and the staff, but also with all his teammates. So 272 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:47.879 it was it was good to see Chicho back, and 273 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.639 I'm grateful that we were able to give the three points. 274 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.919 Tell me what you've seen both in training and then 275 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.799 during matches from Diego since he came back. I mean, 276 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.320 he got the goal the other night. It was the 277 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.600 first goal for you guys since May. It was a 278 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.720 little bit of a poacher's goal, do you respect? I mean, 279 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.840 I'm not calling him that. We know how good he is. 280 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:08.600 Is Is there a little fatigue? Is there a little 281 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.799 like adjustment? Tell me where you're seeing from Diego right now? 282 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:12.639 Yeah? 283 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.240 I think you hear the nail on the head, you know, 284 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:18.399 I think you know, going into this last game Diego, 285 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:23.480 Luna has played fifteen matches in the last seven weeks, right, 286 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.960 and that is obviously what I'm talking about when you 287 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.960 when when the players are playing in the red from 288 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.480 a physical load perspective, like and then you've taken all 289 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.080 the travel. You know, they played some friendly games before 290 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.799 the Gold Cup, played all the Gold Cup games here, 291 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.000 and then obviously he went to the MS All Star Game. 292 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.440 All those little things add up and it doesn't let 293 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.960 the body reset in the way that it needs to. 294 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.200 And and I think the other part too is, you know, 295 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.480 I think he feels, and we've been talking with a 296 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:53.840 lot about this that you know, he's sometimes he's got 297 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.240 to do more than what he needs to with our group. 298 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.679 And I mean, and you know, in my message to 299 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:00.919 him as this group was coming when you were gone, 300 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:02.679 and all we need you to do is just recover 301 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.279 the right way, get your feedback, and then just play 302 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:07.240 play as you have. Then you don't need to do 303 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.720 anything more than just do your job as the best 304 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.399 of your ability. And if you can do that, you're 305 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:14.919 you're going to get back into not only you know, 306 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.559 helping the team win, but continue on this trajectory of 307 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:23.240 development and growth that has been incredible from the start 308 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:23.600 of the year. 309 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:29.080 So ultimately we and we'll get to the new additions, 310 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:31.720 but before you get there, you know, I didn't know 311 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.480 much about Lachlan when he was acquired, felt like he 312 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.720 had some moments early on. Why ultimately do you think 313 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:39.919 it didn't work out with Lachlan as he's he's now 314 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:40.320 moved on. 315 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.039 Yeah, you know, I think every you know, it's that's 316 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:49.320 a great question, and I think Lochlan would probably have 317 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.320 the best answer to that. I think for me, you know, 318 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:58.639 it's not an easy league to assimilate to. It's and 319 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.360 if you're not getting the plane, it's really hard to 320 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.519 get those wheels turning, and and and and and to 321 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:08.039 commit to your craft away from home is very difficult 322 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.720 as well. So I think there's a lot of there's 323 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.960 a couple of things going on away from the field 324 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:15.840 that were that were difficult for him, and then he 325 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.279 wasn't getting the type of reps and and so you know, 326 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.000 one of the things I always talk to young players 327 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.039 about is everyone wants to know what they need to 328 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.879 do to play on Saturdays the big games. And I'm 329 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.000 saying the most important days are Tuesday through Friday, and 330 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.799 until you're the best player on Tuesday through Friday, it's 331 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.879 going to be very difficult to get a crack on Saturday. 332 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.039 And so that's why it has to be a real 333 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:43.600 commitment to to your profession, right It's it's it's the 334 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.480 days that nobody cares about. No one's going to write 335 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.320 about your training session on Wednesday on social media, you know, 336 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:53.120 ever getting likes, no one cares. But however they're the 337 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.960 most important. And I feel like it establishes a great 338 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:59.799 foundation for young players to understand that this, this commitment, 339 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.159 this training session, sharpening the tools is the only way 340 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.799 forward forever. And then once you do start playing on 341 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:10.519 Saturdays regularly, you got to double down on the Tuesday 342 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.080 through Friday. And I just don't think he ever got 343 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.480 up to speed and performed at a level throughout the 344 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.440 week that would give him more opportunities at the weekend. 345 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.159 And so unfortunately it just didn't work out for him. 346 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.960 But hopefully, and and and I've heard this quite a 347 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.440 few times spent over the course of my you know, 348 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.360 my my years coaching is uh, you know, four or 349 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.000 five years later running the players and they're like, now 350 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.200 I know what you mean. I didn't you know. And 351 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.200 and I think Einstein has a quote where it's like 352 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:39.879 you can't fix the problem in the same place that 353 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:44.639 it occurs. Sometimes you need separation from the experience or 354 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.399 from you know, the words that your parents give you 355 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.960 or you know, mentors give you, and you need to 356 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:51.960 go out and live that experience and then and then 357 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.519 it'll make sense to you. So you know, hopefully you 358 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:58.240 know sooner than rather than later. He you know, understand 359 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.159 that it's it's really about being a master of your craft, 360 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.440 and that only happens Tuesday through Friday, and then we 361 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.240 can talk about the games and all that other stuff. 362 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.880 And also, and look, I want to be clear, I 363 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.200 have zero inside information about what happened with Lachlan, but 364 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.200 I find it. I've always found this fascinating, Pablo any sport, 365 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:21.160 whatever it is, the art of analyzing talent combined with 366 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.759 the necessary knowledge of whether or not the talent is 367 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:30.240 also a professional. And that's an intangible thing. It's really 368 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.079 really hard to identify because ultimately, and I say this 369 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:35.599 all the time, just get me the talent, then we'll 370 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:37.079 figure it out. You know, I don't care if there's 371 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.359 redundancy between Diogo and Diego. They're both awesome figured out. 372 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.680 Give me the talent's figured out. How do you go 373 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:44.759 about and I know it's a collaboration. I know it's 374 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.720 Kurt his staff, Jason, Tony and then you and your staff, 375 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.519 how do you go about the best way possible to 376 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:54.480 understand whether or not Okay, we like the talent, but 377 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:55.440 is he a pro? 378 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.920 Does he know what to do to be professional every day? 379 00:17:58.079 --> 00:17:58.759 How do you do that? 380 00:17:58.799 --> 00:17:59.000 Then? 381 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.839 How quickly do you notice whether or not that's going 382 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:02.559 to be an issue? 383 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.759 Yeah? I think that's the toughest thing, Spence. And and 384 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.839 to be fair, you know, we can extrapolate a lot 385 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.799 of information from like has this player traveled a lot? 386 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:13.680 You know? Has he has he been to Europe before? 387 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:16.079 Has he left his country before? Because that's a big 388 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:18.759 that's a big thing for us because if he's done that, 389 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:21.440 that means he's got the capability of living away from 390 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.960 family and still excelling. Right, So I think that's that's 391 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.279 a big thing, you know. And then and then it's 392 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:33.519 really zoom zoom calls and conversation and our leadership coach 393 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:35.680 Grant Barge is on these calls of us and it 394 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.839 has a bunch of great questions that hopefully will disseminate 395 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.880 some some personality things, right, Like is he is he 396 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:46.000 a does he have a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset? 397 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.279 Like some of these questions can give you this way, 398 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.079 but at the end of the day, it's all it's 399 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.000 all the roll of the dice. And I say that 400 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.599 because the human being is so complex. In other words, 401 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.240