Speaker 1: Salsbury.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3: To usc troupe, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4: Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 5: Here's the two one for Siton. Swing it.
Speaker 6: It's down the third baseline, base in and it rolled
Speaker 6: to the border. The Astros take the lead on extra
Speaker 6: basis for cam Smith.
Speaker 1: He's racing for third long throw in. Say a triple
Speaker 1: for cam Smith.
Speaker 7: The two brown ball right at payin you goes the
Speaker 7: second for one Rogers the first double play just what
Speaker 7: the doctor ordered for the Astros, and we go to
Speaker 7: the twelfth Astros one Mariners won.
Speaker 1: Here comes the one to Carteni.
Speaker 6: Here's the pitch curveball and that's through the left side.
Speaker 1: Going with it, Carrotini.
Speaker 6: Another curveball and he steered it through the left side
Speaker 6: of the infield and the Astros take the lead two
Speaker 6: to one.
Speaker 1: Carrotini with the magic one. There. Here's the two to
Speaker 1: two Okert fastball, got eam strike three and the Astros
Speaker 1: win it.
Speaker 6: Ocher comes in and slams the door and the Astros
Speaker 6: win the second game of this series RBI single by Carrotini.
Speaker 6: Cam Smith with his first RBI this season. Ryan Gusto
Speaker 6: gets his first win as a major leaguer and the
Speaker 6: Astros get to go home happy tonight. Twelve innings and
Speaker 6: they win this game two to one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, while you were asleep, the Astros finding a way
Speaker 8: to get it done in twelve innings last night, beating
Speaker 8: the Mariners two to one, and Cam Smith first RBI
Speaker 8: of his career, a triple to the left hustle and triple.
Speaker 2: Man, I love to see that.
Speaker 8: You also love to see You would hope to not
Speaker 8: get to the eleventh inning, but young Ryan Gusto where
Speaker 8: zero margin for error. Guy gets over to third base
Speaker 8: and the infield is in, runners on the corners and
Speaker 8: a ball right to Jeremy Panion. Instead of trying to
Speaker 8: get Julio Rodriguez at the plate, he says, hey, let's
Speaker 8: get two here, and they get two. Then Victor Carrottini,
Speaker 8: the hero with the bats in the twelfth and oh hey,
Speaker 8: what a novel concept. Steven Okert in the twelfth inning
Speaker 8: works a scoreless frame, getting a couple of strikeouts in
Speaker 8: the ball game.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was good man. It was a late night obviously,
Speaker 2: get to a certain point we going and wake up
Speaker 2: early and watch what you didn't get to see. But Carotene,
Speaker 2: he's been clutch since he's been here. They Fromber looked
Speaker 2: like Fromber again. You know, you keep the ball in
Speaker 2: the ballpark, you give what six strong innings and strikeout eight?
Speaker 2: He was really good anytime that you can get to
Speaker 2: in that ball. A lot of different bodies used last
Speaker 2: night and hater what two more innings. That's back to
Speaker 2: back times. He's gone at least two of the last
Speaker 2: three or four days where he's gone two innings where
Speaker 2: he's had to give you a couple of them and
Speaker 2: then to be resilient enough on the road to take
Speaker 2: care of their business and get the clutch hit and
Speaker 2: double plays a pitcher's best friend. So it was nice
Speaker 2: and bullpen did their job and here we are and
Speaker 2: you don't want to overwork them. But from Or got
Speaker 2: you six, and it's here worship when a guy gets
Speaker 2: you six in Major league baseball, So good on him.
Speaker 2: He looked again like a guy who should be at
Speaker 2: the front of the rotation.
Speaker 8: And that's you know, getting back to Gusto too. Although
Speaker 8: I mean I heard Joe Spotto calmed Gusto. I hear
Speaker 8: the TV guys and radio guys call him Gusto. But anyway,
Speaker 8: it's besides the point. I mean, like I said, I mean,
Speaker 8: you've got zero margin for er. Right there, a little
Speaker 8: bleeder gets through. Mariners win that ballgame. First pitch of
Speaker 8: the eleventh inning from Ryan Gusto, right down the middle,
Speaker 8: just going right at the hitter, just saying, hey, you
Speaker 8: know what, if I'm gonna get beat, I'm gonna get
Speaker 8: beat by you beating me. I'm not going to beat
Speaker 8: myself here and try to nibble on corners and do
Speaker 8: all these things. That's a guy sean that the moment's
Speaker 8: not too big for him. He's ready to go. And
Speaker 8: I mean the other day, I understand, you know it
Speaker 8: was a game that was completely away from you, but
Speaker 8: he gives you three very quality innings out of the bullpen.
Speaker 8: I mean, it seems like he's a guy that the
Speaker 8: phone rings, he goes out there, he gets the job done.
Speaker 8: And uh oh, by the way, this seventh inning last night,
Speaker 8: if Joe A. Spotta could have a do over. Let
Speaker 8: me tell you who I'm putting in there for quote
Speaker 8: unquote right handed on right handed matchups.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm putting Ryan Gusto in Yeah, he's pretty
Speaker 2: impressive man and a guy. It's one thing we talk
Speaker 2: about and comes highly regarded and all that. But it's
Speaker 2: performance under pressure. I love it. And it appears that
Speaker 2: the guy could close you out at the end as
Speaker 2: we know it, I mean, meaning to be able to
Speaker 2: He got the win last night. I think right, he
Speaker 2: got to win to give you a a solid performance again.
Speaker 2: But the versatility of him, Hell, where can't you put
Speaker 2: him in? Watch him where? I mean it, he's not
Speaker 2: locked in and we're trying to figure out in seventh
Speaker 2: any who's that guy going to be on a regular basis?
Speaker 2: And you know who eight and nine are and well
Speaker 2: yesterday it was eight, nine, ten, eleven. Got to get
Speaker 2: to twelve and take care of it. So, but Gusto
Speaker 2: gets a win, it won't be his last one. But
Speaker 2: whether it's Bullpen or some time when he's you know,
Speaker 2: a guy in your starting rotation whenever that is the
Speaker 2: bottom line is that he doesn't care about the role
Speaker 2: and he's taking care of his business. And all the
Speaker 2: way from spring to now, every single time his name
Speaker 2: has come up, there's never been yeah but behind it.
Speaker 2: And so when it comes from the experts it comes,
Speaker 2: but talk talk talk about the performance. Okay, spring training.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know the guy comes right in here
Speaker 2: and is doing his thing. So I would imagine for
Speaker 2: Joe a spot of the versatility of him and the
Speaker 2: ability to doesn't matter, go do it and then perform it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to find a lot of times early in
Speaker 2: the season for some, but he is. He is performing
Speaker 2: at a time when they're going to need him all
Speaker 2: year long. Considering and you know, as you do well,
Speaker 2: you may be here and it may be somewhere in
Speaker 2: the seventh and maybe starting it, maybe winning a game
Speaker 2: later on in a game, and you know, you didn't
Speaker 2: know when your performance was gonna come or when your
Speaker 2: opportunity was gonna come again. But the guy has just
Speaker 2: been spectacular at least early in the season and came
Speaker 2: that way regard as spring training.
Speaker 8: Here we are keyboard Warriors. Were after Joe Spotta last
Speaker 8: night too. Seventh inning, you give up the lead after
Speaker 8: you just took the lead on the camp Smith RBI triple,
Speaker 8: and Joe Spotta decides in the seventh inning that's Taylor
Speaker 8: Scott time. And I'm again watching it on TV before
Speaker 8: nodding off and going to sleep, and Jeff Blum mentions, oh,
Speaker 8: this might be a chance to get Taylor Scott's confidence up. Sean,
Speaker 8: I'm in a one run game. I don't need to
Speaker 8: get a guy's confidence up. I need to win a
Speaker 8: ball game. Let him work it out when you're up
Speaker 8: five to you know, five to two against somebody at
Speaker 8: that spot.
Speaker 2: But maybe they feel a little different about him than you.
Speaker 2: Maybe they feel like he's doing his thing, that he's
Speaker 2: it's not a mechanical effect or. And we've seen this
Speaker 2: happen here in the past. We see it with Joe Spot,
Speaker 2: I saw with Dusty Baker. They latch onto somebody they
Speaker 2: believe in and they're gonna let him play it on
Speaker 2: the field. And now that's a novel concept. Every time
Speaker 2: a guy, I mean, we are, you know, a dozen
Speaker 2: games or whatever it is into the season and we're
Speaker 2: already looking for a seventh inning guy. After the performance
Speaker 2: he gave last year was pretty impressive. So I understand
Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately? League, But I
Speaker 2: do so I know this from a distance. We have
Speaker 2: a different opinion on certain things. But once again, when
Speaker 2: guys are there every day, like Joe A spotts, seeing, listening, hearing,
Speaker 2: watching bullpen sessions, watching mechanics on the mount, and listening
Speaker 2: to Dow he reacts when he comes in the deck out,
Speaker 2: all those things that go on with with a manager understanding,
Speaker 2: I would think they got a pretty good idea of
Speaker 2: we still like this guy, this is not who he is,
Speaker 2: or the struggles he'll pitch through him, that they trust
Speaker 2: him to do it. I just don't think you can
Speaker 2: crap can anybody who struggles early. We don't do it
Speaker 2: to a hitter, and why would we do it to
Speaker 2: a pitcher, especially somebody that they obviously believe in it
Speaker 2: at times? Last year bail jass out and was outstanding.
Speaker 2: So I get it, and I understand the search, But
Speaker 2: when better to build? You an't build anybody's confidence putting
Speaker 2: him in a five to one game and he gets
Speaker 2: two out so groundball, strike out in another out, that's
Speaker 2: not confidence because that's supposed to happen. I kind of
Speaker 2: do agree that let's throw him in there and see,
Speaker 2: because if we can't find out who he is to
Speaker 2: us now, how we gonna know later when it really
Speaker 2: even matters, we can overcome Game twelve or whatever it
Speaker 2: is In the beginning of the season, can't overcome the
Speaker 2: last twelve when he's going through a losing streak at three.
Speaker 2: There is a method to the madness about getting somebody
Speaker 2: back into and we've seen it with relievers that shifts
Speaker 2: on a dime. Those guys one day, I mean, they're
Speaker 2: the reliever's mind is like my OCD. It's like one
Speaker 2: day that. I mean, they're trying to lock in every
Speaker 2: day and one bat or two bad or before he
Speaker 2: could be a good pitch guy hits the line drive
Speaker 2: away on an out on of pitch that's outside the
Speaker 2: strike zone, and we come with he blew the save.
Speaker 2: And a guy went and chased a pitch and smoked
Speaker 2: it the right field and put the bat on it
Speaker 2: and drives in a run and beats a pitcher. I mean,
Speaker 2: it happens. And so I think we're way too early
Speaker 2: to stop the Scott train and have him get off.
Speaker 2: But I understand the reality of well, you put him
Speaker 2: in a game like that, but if you the confidence
Speaker 2: in the game, that's the point that I'm making. He's
Speaker 2: telling you why he put him in Bloom when Blood
Speaker 2: was a blum who said it. He's telling him why Obviously,
Speaker 2: why he believes this is because the confidence and the
Speaker 2: timing he put him in is literally too there's a
Speaker 2: collateral damage, either good or bad. There's an effect that
Speaker 2: pushes forward for Scott in this because if he goes
Speaker 2: and does his thing and it's like okay, under duress
Speaker 2: in a high leverage situation needed him and he pulled through.
Speaker 2: And truth is, if they put a quarterback in a
Speaker 2: game when you're up four touchdowns in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: and you throw a touchdown pass and you win by
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, I don't think my confidence has risen because
Speaker 2: the game was done. But in these situations, when it's
Speaker 2: high leverage, that's how you gain it because then you
Speaker 2: go back to trusting yourself. So I think there's a
Speaker 2: method to the madness. Hopefully we won't be having this
Speaker 2: conversation in June, but if we are, then by that
Speaker 2: time somebody else will be in that role. But I
Speaker 2: do get early on and fiercely loyal. Has been a
Speaker 2: spot of Dusty Baker was the same way, and then
Speaker 2: there are certain guys when they don't like him. I
Speaker 2: think it was Dusty wasn't a big standic fan, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's Yeah, I'm talking about at
Speaker 2: least the way it appeared by appearances in certain situations. Right,
Speaker 2: that's what people's perception, whether it's true or not. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: And you know, Dusty had guys he did love, right,
Speaker 2: saying we all do and that you trust or that
Speaker 2: you believe are going to pay dividends for you if
Speaker 2: you show them early. On the psychology of it and
Speaker 2: the psychological part of it. I think Joe A. Spot
Speaker 2: probably understands what his player needs a little more than
Speaker 2: we do from a distance. But I do get the frustration.
Speaker 2: But it's called frustration and relief pictures. It's redundant. You're
Speaker 2: always going to be frustrated or uptight about him because
Speaker 2: it's part of the job. And I think that's it.
Speaker 2: I think we're too early to, uh say, Scott's a
Speaker 2: guy in the fifth inning and we got to maybe
Speaker 2: move him around. I think we're way too early for that.
Speaker 8: Well, it's not I'm not talking about it from being
Speaker 8: a permanent status, but I mean, you know, we're talking
Speaker 8: about building up guy's confidence, all right, what about Steven Oker?
Speaker 2: What about Ryan Gusto? Guys who you have put into
Speaker 2: situations and sometimes tough situations. They've done nothing but perform
Speaker 2: for you. Why why aren't those guys getting there? Well,
Speaker 2: let me ask you it is you just said build confidence.
Speaker 2: If those two guys are pitching where they are and confident,
Speaker 2: does he need to put his arm around him and
Speaker 2: keep it up? I mean they're probate. You don't need
Speaker 2: to uh have validation and you know from from others
Speaker 2: all the time. They're doing their job. And right now,
Speaker 2: so who are you more worried about right now? You
Speaker 2: just said it with your thing? Who do you trust more?
Speaker 2: The other two guys are Scott right now?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I trust the other two guys. Okay, so their confidence
Speaker 2: is rolling pretty good right now. So what does it make.
Speaker 2: I'll reward him when the time comes. But they're still
Speaker 2: doing their thing. Gusto did his thing with the win
Speaker 2: last night. Those guys are doing their thing in the
Speaker 2: role they're in now. At some point they usually define themselves,
Speaker 2: and the way you define a role is by performance.
Speaker 2: If cam Smith hits won forty five this year, by
Speaker 2: the All Star break, he'll be playing right field or
Speaker 2: third base in the minor leagues. You see the energy
Speaker 2: last night and why they put him in and I'd
Speaker 2: like to see him play every day. Boom turns a
Speaker 2: double into a triple just by flat out hustling taking
Speaker 2: care of his business. So it's the same thing here,
Speaker 2: you answer, why aren't they? We don't need to reward it.
Speaker 2: This isn't Junior high an American society and people the
Speaker 2: suburbs of Let's reward a guy because he did his
Speaker 2: job one day or two days, or it's twelve games in.
Speaker 2: Just as quick as I ain't putting Ryan Gusto in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, I'm not sending Scott to the
Speaker 2: minor leagues and saying you're no good. I think the
Speaker 2: confidence factor is important. So to answer your question as
Speaker 2: to why, well, what good would it be if you've
Speaker 2: got a guy who's confident? Just keep giving him. The
Speaker 2: one guy who obviously appears from a vantage point that
Speaker 2: need that confidence to get back going to see who
Speaker 2: you are? Is Scott right now? And so why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you put him in those situations? I got an news
Speaker 2: for if he blows five leverage situations in a row,
Speaker 2: he won't be pitching in that situation. The performance is
Speaker 2: going to dictate it, not us, you know, standing from here,
Speaker 2: in a radio show or Twitter telling us I get
Speaker 2: him out because he's had some struggles. And I do
Speaker 2: believe there's a method of the madness. And I also believe,
Speaker 2: having been coached and coached both, there comes a point
Speaker 2: in time when things are going good, kick a guy
Speaker 2: in the ass. When things are going bad, put your
Speaker 2: arm around him, and maybe the guy needs one performance.
Speaker 2: But why do we want why do we let players
Speaker 2: get players get away with oh it's early, but pitchers,
Speaker 2: we don't want to let him get away with oh
Speaker 2: it's early. I think it's way too early to pull
Speaker 2: the plug on him. He did too much for this
Speaker 2: ball club last year. He should get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: play through it, especially now.
Speaker 8: And there's much more to talk about on that, and
Speaker 8: we'll do that here as the show goes along. Today,
Speaker 8: also to yesterday, the Astros sending away Rafael Montero in
Speaker 8: a trade to the Braves, sending cash as well and
Speaker 8: getting a player to be named later. Rockets clinched the
Speaker 8: two seeds, so the final three games of the regular
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Speaker 2: Now back to Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 8: And Jayshawn Tates and a bunch of the Stay Ready crew,
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Speaker 8: seven ninety By the way to Shawn nine thirty. Today
Speaker 8: Wednesday our day rol weekly visit with Dana Brown. It
Speaker 8: seems like it's very popular to, you know, talk about
Speaker 8: the moves. The astros haven't made the money, they haven't
Speaker 8: spent whatever. It might be permission to throw some flowers
Speaker 8: at at Dana Brown for the job that he's done,
Speaker 8: because I don't think enough people have done that, because
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, last year, you spend the money
Speaker 8: on Josh Hater and at the time it's not looking good,
Speaker 8: it's looking like, hey, we spent the wrong money here
Speaker 8: yet again. And this is a guy who is not
Speaker 8: what he was in Milwaukee or in San Diego this year,
Speaker 8: Where would you be without Josh Hater And especially last
Speaker 8: night an eleven pitch first inning of his outing and
Speaker 8: then he's equally as efficient in the second inning of it.
Speaker 8: You had in Brendan Rodgers, you had in Steven Okert.
Speaker 8: I mean, look, I know I just talked about Taylor Scott,
Speaker 8: but a guy like Taylor Scott sean this team is
Speaker 8: winning because of things being done on the fly by
Speaker 8: Dana Brown.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the problem is with people have
Speaker 2: a problem with Dana Brown. They made the decision last year. Now,
Speaker 2: in the long term, the trade he made to bring
Speaker 2: the guy from Toronto here left Handerkuci, Yeah, Kakuci is
Speaker 2: now an angel. Brought him here. He was masterful here,
Speaker 2: And I know you had to change three get rid
Speaker 2: of three people that you that they are going to
Speaker 2: be good future. So in the long run the trades
Speaker 2: is going to benefit Toronto. It just will. But in
Speaker 2: the short term, if youre going to sign him again
Speaker 2: what they needed last year for the timing of it
Speaker 2: was a great move and when it first was made,
Speaker 2: we all kind of looked at he is that too?
Speaker 2: Much to give up. It turned out that it would
Speaker 2: have been nice to re sign Kakuchi, but it just
Speaker 2: I mean that happened quickly into free agency as well.
Speaker 2: So I think Dana Brown's been outstanding. No matter what
Speaker 2: you do here, even though you're the guy after the
Speaker 2: guy that Jeff Luno is always going to be the
Speaker 2: measuring stick for people who get the GM job. Even
Speaker 2: if you do well, you can go to Indianapolis and
Speaker 2: play quarterback after Peyton Manning go to eight Pro Bowls,
Speaker 2: You're never going to be Peyton Manning. It's the same
Speaker 2: thing here and maybe Dana Brown will. But the hang
Speaker 2: up with a J. Hinch and Jeff Luno here and
Speaker 2: I understand why is they're just it's like the people's
Speaker 2: love for Juli Guriel Christian Walker at forty this year,
Speaker 2: it's still well, should we bring Ulie back? I mean,
Speaker 2: you'll still get that, and I understand it. So you
Speaker 2: can't win for losing. No matter what Dana Brown does,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be compared to Luno. And oh and one
Speaker 2: move like a Montero who the contract was not a
Speaker 2: Dana Brown contract. If we recall that, if there's a
Speaker 2: move like that or getting rid of Kyle Tucker. Now
Speaker 2: he's a National League Player of the Week. Well, is
Speaker 2: it gonna work? Wesnsky's gonna be good, Paradius is doing
Speaker 2: his job, and Cam Smith looks to be like he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a star in the league. It's gonna take time.
Speaker 2: You don't judge them like an NFL draft the next year.
Speaker 2: You judge it two, three, four years down the road.
Speaker 2: So I think Dana Brown's made some fantastic moves. Not
Speaker 2: all of them are gonna work. And they don't all
Speaker 2: work in LA. They don't all work in New York,
Speaker 2: they don't all work in Philly. They don't all work. Okay,
Speaker 2: but uh, I tease a hell of a talent evaluator.
Speaker 2: And I know see what happens when they go on
Speaker 2: and say read the back of the baseball card. People
Speaker 2: judge like some of the decisions by the fact it, Hey,
Speaker 2: it's a long season. But he said, it's a long season.
Speaker 2: But the last two years, and you know what, when
Speaker 2: they struggled, they've come back out of it and been
Speaker 2: right there to win a division. So he's right, we
Speaker 2: get more impatient. He's got to stay the course. We
Speaker 2: don't have to because we're media and we're fans every day.
Speaker 2: He can't just all of a sudden after three days
Speaker 2: say you know what a mistake that was. You got
Speaker 2: to let it play out. They realize that Montero no
Speaker 2: longer is bringing what they thought they were going to get,
Speaker 2: and you move him. So and there's some small I mean,
Speaker 2: Christian walkermaned it being a monster move in this offseason.
Speaker 2: So yes, but it's a thankless job. It's a thankless job.
Speaker 2: People still aren't over David Cully when it comes to
Speaker 2: Nick Cassario, and now he's got the right coach. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you got to sludge through some stuff to get to
Speaker 2: the guy who's going to lead your your building, or
Speaker 2: your team or your business. So I don't I just
Speaker 2: when when people are critical, guy strikes out and it's
Speaker 2: Danon Brown's fault. I mean, now, if you brought in
Speaker 2: a hack, and you know, I think that like when
Speaker 2: you kept to bray you too long, and there's circumstances
Speaker 2: to go with it, kept to bray you too long,
Speaker 2: you know, it falls on Dana Brown. When Dana wasn't
Speaker 2: the one who brought him in the first place, if
Speaker 2: you recall, wasn't that the Jeff bagwell so and so
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. It's just that they just heap
Speaker 2: it on him. But it's you know, sometimes when a
Speaker 2: guy struggles, I get it, you make moves or you
Speaker 2: miss out on moves. A lot of times it's things
Speaker 2: you didn't do that people wish you would have gone
Speaker 2: out and done. Get a center fielder when you know,
Speaker 2: after all these years and we need another outfield or
Speaker 2: getting what are we going to do for power? Why
Speaker 2: is aut two big playing left? But some of them
Speaker 2: are not just Dana Brown decisions. They are also you know,
Speaker 2: Joe A. Spotta and Jim Crane decisions. So when it
Speaker 2: comes to the big money, that's not a Dana Brown
Speaker 2: decision to keep Kyle Tucker. Sure they wanted Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 2: When it comes to where the money's going to end
Speaker 2: up being, it was just priced out here in Houston.
Speaker 2: So I think he's done more good than he has mistakes.
Speaker 2: You're going to make him along the way. I think
Speaker 2: Danta Brown deserves a ton of credit and has done
Speaker 2: a hell of a job as a GM, especially in
Speaker 2: his first time role as being a GM. You said
Speaker 2: Joe A.
Speaker 8: Spotta, who was the other guy in terms of you
Speaker 8: mentioning with decisions, because you'd also mentioned, you know, with
Speaker 8: the Texans, Nick Cassario, Jim Crane. And the point that
Speaker 8: I'm bringing up here is sometimes you have marching orders.
Speaker 8: I mean, with a bray you. I understand what Dana
Speaker 8: Brown was charged with. I guarantee you probably off the air. Dana,
Speaker 8: what do you think about Jose No, we're really concerned.
Speaker 8: I don't think this is going to work out. I
Speaker 8: really truly believe that's what you would have heard.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: He also who's the one who said on this show
Speaker 2: that he felt that Jiner Diaz was the future catcher
Speaker 2: here when Maldonada was playing and Diaz was platooning with him,
Speaker 2: and there was a guy in the minor leagues who
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the heir apparent named Corey Lee,
Speaker 2: and he came out here and said it, and everybody,
Speaker 2: look what. A couple months later, Corey Lee's playing somewhere
Speaker 2: else and he had no problem doing it. And right
Speaker 2: now the struggles are we okay? Are we now looking
Speaker 2: at him and saying, what a horrible decision by Dana
Speaker 2: Brown to keep yanar Ds instead of Corey Lee? Are
Speaker 2: we there because he struggled in the first dozen games
Speaker 2: of the season after what he did in a full
Speaker 2: body of work last ye some would say, right now, yeah,
Speaker 2: well it's wrong because it goes. If that's the case,
Speaker 2: Bregman would have been cut twenty seven times as an astro.
Speaker 2: They would have dfaate him twenty because if you just go,
Speaker 2: let's let's judge Bregman by April, not in Fenway now
Speaker 2: this year he's out of his mind. But here we
Speaker 2: would have said, oh, it's time to move on to
Speaker 2: guy's a bust. And then you wait and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden May hits, and then June hits, and
Speaker 2: you got a guy who does all he does, so
Speaker 2: it's it'd be silly. So right now you're saying, man,
Speaker 2: the Corey leeuld be great or somebody, I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: some bring Maldy back, Okay, but y or start Victor
Speaker 2: Krottini every day that's coming. That's already there, show that
Speaker 2: that's common. So is Dana Brown. Are we saying it
Speaker 2: was a blown decision by Dana Brown to move Corey
Speaker 2: Lee and make Yaner d as a future No. Last year,
Speaker 2: everybody in this town was saying this is a cleanup
Speaker 2: hitter of your five hitter is going to be an
Speaker 2: All Star for eight years, ten years. That that's what
Speaker 2: people were saying. So well, it's i'll use their term,
Speaker 2: it's early.
Speaker 8: Well it's also too to your point about Yiner, I mean,
Speaker 8: if for the longest time it didn't seem like it
Speaker 8: was a Dana thing, it seemed like it was a
Speaker 8: dusty thing, and he wanted Martin Maldonado out.
Speaker 2: There, much like managing the pitching staff, get it, not
Speaker 2: the bat Nobody, nobody that even has watched a game
Speaker 2: of baseball would have thought you'd keep Maldonado in because
Speaker 2: of plate production. Sitting behind the plate, yeah, standing next
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 8: No, it's kind of like you know, we talked about
Speaker 8: every week with Steve Sparks, and I mean he's adamant
Speaker 8: that Jake Myers is as a matter of fact, he
Speaker 8: said it a couple of days ago with us, and
Speaker 8: then last night in the first inning, you see what
Speaker 8: Jake Myers and his value is out there. But no,
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, look, you know, sometimes it's decisions
Speaker 8: that aren't your control, but when it comes to just
Speaker 8: overall trying to keep this thing competitive. I really just
Speaker 8: cannot understand the people who are against the job that
Speaker 8: Dana Brown has done because I think most of the
Speaker 8: moves he's made, like Steven Okert last night, see somebody
Speaker 8: on Twitter, what a fined by Dana Brown.
Speaker 2: Well, that's his job, so he's supposed to do. Dana
Speaker 2: Brown's built his chops is a talent evaluator, a scout.
Speaker 2: He knows talent. Now they got to perform when he
Speaker 2: gets here in the GM role. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: other things that come along with it. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It'll play itself out. And Dana Brown's done a nice job.
Speaker 2: And you know what the thing about it is general
Speaker 2: manager's role is not to please you and me. It's
Speaker 2: to make sure he puts the best people on the
Speaker 2: on the ball field and to give Joe a spot
Speaker 2: of the best opportunity to compete and the players. But
Speaker 2: it's not all every single day going to look like
Speaker 2: we'd like it to look, and it didn't look every
Speaker 2: day like he'd like it to look. But it's part
Speaker 2: of building culture and building the team. And hence the
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two game schedule. So if we
Speaker 2: played twelve twenty seven games, be concerned about yan or
Speaker 2: d Is and some of the other things. We don't
Speaker 2: play twenty seven games. So I think I think Dana
Speaker 2: Brown's proven that the general manager job that was given
Speaker 2: him was right and when it given him, that he earned.
Speaker 2: But it was given to him as opposed to anybody
Speaker 2: else that interviewed for it, and I think it's going
Speaker 2: to pay dividends for them. Remember, he does have a
Speaker 2: ceiling on where he's allowed to go, not with his
Speaker 2: talent or his ability. The ceiling is you can be
Speaker 2: great if even with Jordan, Let's say next contract comes
Speaker 2: up and it's people are talking the big, big, big money.
Speaker 2: There's a chance he'll be playing somewhere else. You do
Speaker 2: know this, Uh huh, So how's that, Dan Bright? If
Speaker 2: there's a certain limit where you got to go, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: here's this Now all of a sudden you that there's
Speaker 2: there's this money and now we get to another level
Speaker 2: where this is rarefied. You get to you have to
Speaker 2: prove with the guy who signs him. And so there
Speaker 2: is a limit on Oh you just it's not the
Speaker 2: Dodgers where they've opened it up and they've opened the
Speaker 2: skies and said do you spend as much money as
Speaker 2: you want, but you better win a championship. Here. It's
Speaker 2: to a point, but then that limit stops, and you
Speaker 2: better find some talent underneath the three hundred and forty
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars a year. Guy. And they've been fortunate
Speaker 2: to do it for quite some time, Yes, they have
Speaker 2: worth noting.
Speaker 8: Two to three hours from now right on the dot,
Speaker 8: Dana gonna be joined us here for his weekly visits.
Speaker 8: All right, coming up next, continue the Astros conversation. And
Speaker 8: if this part is not here right now, well you
Speaker 8: know we're seeing it still a good thing. We'll talk
Speaker 8: about that here as we continue on here in the
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Speaker 8: Uh, Sean, it's it's gonna go ahead and happen during
Speaker 8: one of these breaks. I am going to go ahead
Speaker 8: and just right here on the TV in the studio,
Speaker 8: I'm going to download the Masters app so we can
Speaker 8: watch Raffie, Afy, Barnerrat and whoever else goes off tomorrow
Speaker 8: at like seven am Georgia time, and we can have
Speaker 8: that in the studio. And then somebody birdies the first
Speaker 8: hole and you say, oh, hey, you know this guy
Speaker 8: that's one thousand to one is the leader right now
Speaker 8: at the Masters. People, of course never know. You never
Speaker 8: know when it's going to be Zach Johnson or Mike Weir.
Speaker 8: I never you never know, No, you don't. And as
Speaker 8: a matter of fact, a couple of hours from now,
Speaker 8: we're going to do our picks five apiece, right now,
Speaker 8: what you told me?
Speaker 2: We're going to do that? Sure?
Speaker 8: Yeah, for five each, five each? All right, five of us.
Speaker 8: And I've already got my short list. I've got my
Speaker 8: draft board built up here. Well, as a rookie to
Speaker 8: this show, you pick second. Oh, it's fine, you just
Speaker 8: just so you know, you pick second, and we don't
Speaker 8: go around and wrap around.
Speaker 2: You just pick second. It's like the draft the second round.
Speaker 2: You pick second until you beat me. And that's never
Speaker 2: happened on the majors on this show. Really Yeah, well
Speaker 2: one time, I take that back, I think one time,
Speaker 2: one time, three one major. Brian's still sleep. So but
Speaker 2: that's a fact. I'm owed like forty seven breakfasts here.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to picking golf, you you've got
Speaker 2: probably no shot in this one. But we'll give you
Speaker 2: a chance. Since you are picking second, we'll give you
Speaker 2: a chance. But until you win, you don't get to
Speaker 2: pick first. You smell that, Yeah, do you smell that?
Speaker 2: You mean the fact that, yeah, burnt rubber, you're getting
Speaker 2: your ass kicked and left in the dust.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, you know that could be that very well,
Speaker 8: could be the conclusion here. But I show up, Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: I smell a challenge. That's that's don't ever throw the
Speaker 8: gauntlet down, brother, if you're not prepared.
Speaker 2: Got off the tracks, the trains coming through, talking to
Speaker 2: the wrong guy. Man, talking to the wrong guy. Always
Speaker 2: prepared for that. So bring whatever you think you got
Speaker 2: with your pick.
Speaker 8: And Sean Tripoli is almost like the guy in the
Speaker 8: grocery store. You got the wrong guy, bud. Yeah that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wrong guy, wrong boat buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Anyway, all right, so we're gonna do that here, coming
Speaker 8: up in a couple hours, you know, Sean, just to
Speaker 8: continue the Astros conversation. They're still not hitting, but I
Speaker 8: mean we touched on a little bit in the first segment.
Speaker 8: The good news is the guys, you know in the
Speaker 8: starting rotation, the last couple of games you get Monday night.
Speaker 8: I know most of us weren't watching it at the time,
Speaker 8: but Hayden was Nesky goes out there does a hell
Speaker 8: of a job, and you're like, Okay, hey, Dana, I
Speaker 8: see you working there. I see, I see what you
Speaker 8: liked about this guy. And then last night you get
Speaker 8: fromber being fromber where we expect him to go out
Speaker 8: there and get ground ball outs and be able to
Speaker 8: get you a quality outing. And then today you get
Speaker 8: Hunter Brown. But I mean for some of the other
Speaker 8: guys in the ball I mean numerous chances last night.
Speaker 8: And oh, by the way too, I had even texted
Speaker 8: Blummer after a couple of plays and Ed said, I mean, seriously,
Speaker 8: do the Mariners have lucky rabbits foots like just you know,
Speaker 8: on them on their person at all times, because some
Speaker 8: of these plays they're making defensively, it is so many.
Speaker 8: Look what I found plays that you're just like, come on, man,
Speaker 8: it's called preparing.
Speaker 2: Brother. The Mariner is a good team. Anytime you can
Speaker 2: go into their building and take care of them. A
Speaker 2: lot of people had them, well they had it. It
Speaker 2: was the Texas Rangers, at least some of these so
Speaker 2: called experts across the country. Texas Rangers, Mariners and the
Speaker 2: ass was all what within two or three games of
Speaker 2: each other, and the Rangers is the favorite in most places.
Speaker 2: But they can pitch, they do play defense, and last
Speaker 2: year some superstar bats let them down and they went
Speaker 2: through it, and they helped the Astros on their road
Speaker 2: because they when they were twelve and twenty four and
Speaker 2: then in the middle of the season they went through
Speaker 2: some struggles that allowed the Astros to chase them down.
Speaker 2: With Astros good baseball. So yeah, they're making some good decisions.
Speaker 2: And right now, I'll tell you this, at some point
Speaker 2: in time, they are going to hit consistently. They just will.
Speaker 2: But anytime you can go literally steal one and extra
Speaker 2: innings on the road using a bunch of bullpen guys
Speaker 2: and getting six innings out of your starter with eight
Speaker 2: strikeouts and giving up, you know what, a couple hits,
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. I'd far more worry even though
Speaker 2: the strength of this team, in my mind is pitching.
Speaker 2: I would worry far more if we were into this
Speaker 2: season right now, record different, you know, a few more losses.
Speaker 2: I'd feel far different if it was our starting pitching
Speaker 2: can't get out of the third or fourth inning. That
Speaker 2: would start to bother me. And then you start be
Speaker 2: why because then the collateral effect and damage of happen
Speaker 2: to tax a bullpen early and then move on to
Speaker 2: the next Normally, pitchers are ahead of hitting normally at
Speaker 2: this time, at this point in time, they just are.
Speaker 2: Now you don't go. Pitchers are little head hitters are
Speaker 2: still feeling their way out first time through during a season,
Speaker 2: and then the pitcher's settling. So I'd worry far more.
Speaker 2: I know that there's changes in Kyle Tucker and Bregman
Speaker 2: are gone and all that, but they've got some professionals
Speaker 2: on this team that have proven in their past here
Speaker 2: and elsewhere they can hit. You should be excited because
Speaker 2: the guy in centerfield is actually putting the bat on
Speaker 2: the ball, which tells me that's got to be a
Speaker 2: good omen. If he's hitting well, it can't be that
Speaker 2: he hits two sixty five and nobody else hits two fifty.
Speaker 2: Al Tuovey's raking at the top in a new position
Speaker 2: for the most part, not at the top, but you
Speaker 2: know it's not affecting whatever's going on when he plays
Speaker 2: in left field. He's still raking. Jordan's long ball hasn't
Speaker 2: started to come up, but it will. I told you
Speaker 2: a million times not worried about him. You're starting to
Speaker 2: see some guys get going. Rogers will get going. He's
Speaker 2: been a really good hitter in his career, whether it's
Speaker 2: at Colorado or night. You still got to put the
Speaker 2: bat And nothing about the air in Colorado that puts
Speaker 2: the barrel of the bat on the ball. Okay, more
Speaker 2: space to hit it, but you still got to put
Speaker 2: the barrel of the bat on it, or wherever it
Speaker 2: is that you get your singles and doubles and hits from.
Speaker 2: So I am honestly, and there's no way Yina and
Speaker 2: Paena hit like this the rest of the year. There's
Speaker 2: no friggin way. And they're sacking there. They're surviving with
Speaker 2: good pitching and getting some clutch wins that come from
Speaker 2: behind and then you know, doing their thing and then
Speaker 2: having to you know, then get and beat and then
Speaker 2: having to come from you know, take care of their
Speaker 2: business in another low scoring game. So pitching is thriving.
Speaker 2: The hitting. There's no way Diaz Painia and even with
Speaker 2: Jordon's lack of power right now, I can't imagine that
Speaker 2: we're having this same conversation at the end of this
Speaker 2: month or sometime in the middle of May. So surviving
Speaker 2: and sometimes you got to survive stints where like, what's
Speaker 2: the hell's going on with our other guys Florida in
Speaker 2: the National Championship game, What's the hell's going on with
Speaker 2: Clayton can't get a shot off? And they still hang
Speaker 2: around the are doing their thing, and the big boppers
Speaker 2: haven't got started yet. So I believe hitting will come
Speaker 2: right now. God forbid that it's runners in scoring positions
Speaker 2: a problem at the midway point of the season, and
Speaker 2: we're still having that conversation. But I don't think we'll
Speaker 2: be having the same conversation we're having now or that
Speaker 2: we had last year at that time about why are
Speaker 2: so many runners stranded? At some point in time, your
Speaker 2: big boppers are going to get hot, stay healthy pitching,
Speaker 2: stay in these games that you're not exploding, and then
Speaker 2: when you do explode, then it's then then you get
Speaker 2: a little bit of relief because the bullpen doesn't get taxed.
Speaker 8: Oh, by the way, the twelve inning last night, one
Speaker 8: of your favorite plays happened. Chas McCormick leading off the
Speaker 8: inning with the runner on second, laid one down and
Speaker 8: what happened now they ended up scoring the go ahead run.
Speaker 8: Louder So the people in the they ended up scoring
Speaker 8: the go ahead. Okay, fine, you're right, so.
Speaker 2: Every now and then, now what you want, That's exactly
Speaker 2: what I want, because especially with the who the last year,
Speaker 2: if a ball was four feet outside, try to hit
Speaker 2: it over the left field wall, and who the year
Speaker 2: before was punch it the other way. Smart decision by
Speaker 2: the manager, good job by the player, and lo and
Speaker 2: behold small ball. Two games in a row they've been
Speaker 2: able to lay a bunt down and it's paid off
Speaker 2: for them, and it also paid off for the team
Speaker 2: that beat them the night before. I'm not a bunting guy,
Speaker 2: but I am a bunting guy when it matters. I
Speaker 2: don't care if it's you walk a guy you, but
Speaker 2: I got to move people over. With first base open,
Speaker 2: you got to or your first get him to second
Speaker 2: so he's in scoring position. Second, get him to third.
Speaker 2: Every now and again, that's just good smart baseball. Something
Speaker 2: that Joe A. Spota seems to understand. Small ball at
Speaker 2: a couple of games in a row, and it's worked
Speaker 2: for you. Well, it's it's a novel concept, a concept.
Speaker 2: Put the ball in play and do something smart with
Speaker 2: the bat and the baseball and a runner and eventually
Speaker 2: it ends up leading to, you know, a smart move.
Speaker 2: So there's a time and a place, and the time
Speaker 2: and the place is the manager will decided, but it's
Speaker 2: worked for them to perfection the last couple of days.
Speaker 8: Well, a good honest man admits when somebody else is right,
Speaker 8: and you, Sean, you were right.
Speaker 2: Oh now listen if you said, Sean, would you like
Speaker 2: to bun every game? No, Well, if there's a guy
Speaker 2: in second, no outs, I got to move over it's
Speaker 2: one to one. Yeah, I don't mind doing that if
Speaker 2: I can get him over. And it depends on who's
Speaker 2: the plate. If Ordon comes to the plate and is
Speaker 2: struck out forty seven times in a row, guess what,
Speaker 2: I'm not having him deal fun right because the forty
Speaker 2: eight time may end up in the upper tank. So
Speaker 2: but it's time and a place. I just don't know where.
Speaker 2: We decided to draw the line at delineation where once
Speaker 2: it gets to this year, not allowed to bunt anymore
Speaker 2: past twenty and twenty two thousand and fifteen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we actually are. You swing through it and miss my
Speaker 2: guy ain't moving. Put the ball down. At least when
Speaker 2: it's in play. There's action and a bunt every now
Speaker 2: and again has its moments and its place often, but
Speaker 2: when it does and you execute it, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Takes you back to when people played in nineteen seventies
Speaker 2: and eighties and actually made livings doing that. Guys stayed
Speaker 2: in the league because they could butt once in a while.
Speaker 2: It works. Yeah, it worked for Brett Butler. Then he
Speaker 2: took a wolf of ball off the midsections. Damn right.
Speaker 2: It works, and it'll get you a lot of opportunities
Speaker 2: used in the right situation with the right people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we just can't discount it. Nope, for sure not
Speaker 8: all right. The torpedo bats though. The conversation that won't
Speaker 8: go away. We'll still be talking astros Ronnie, I see
Speaker 8: you want to get in on that, but a prominent
Speaker 8: voice says, cheating, No way. We'll talk about that here
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Ronnie. How you doing pretty good?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 9: I got two concerns. One people knocking Dana Brown. I
Speaker 9: just don't understand it. The Astros are just now, I think,
Speaker 9: getting over the effect of having lost four draft choices
Speaker 9: and international money when they couldn't sign young players. So
Speaker 9: when you want to deal with the trade deadline, you
Speaker 9: need to deal prospects, and they've done that. But I
Speaker 9: just hope that they don't if they're not going to
Speaker 9: sign their free agents and they need to keep their prospects,
Speaker 9: I don't want to see them hemorrhaging out of both
Speaker 9: ends of the body, you know. So, I mean, I
Speaker 9: wish we could have kept Kakuchi. The real concern with
Speaker 9: the Astros that I'm having now is we can't stop
Speaker 9: guys from stealing bases against us. And I don't blame Yiner.
Speaker 9: It's the pitching staff. I don't know. You know, they
Speaker 9: don't have the kinds of pictures that can hold base
Speaker 9: runners on. And I know you can't throw the first
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty times and at bat like you
Speaker 9: used to be able to. But it's gonna hurt them.
Speaker 9: It's gonna really hurt them, particularly if they don't start
Speaker 9: scoring runs themselves.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call, Ronnie, great boy, Ronnie. I first off,
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, we could go down a checklist.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't see it as often as you guys,
Speaker 2: because I'm not paying as much attention. How many people
Speaker 2: are crushing Dana Brown right now? If they are all
Speaker 2: over social now, I don't get on like certain you know,
Speaker 2: sites to go see what everybody's saying about it. If
Speaker 2: it's not on Twitter, isn't glaring. I don't think the
Speaker 2: comments I don't pay much attention to unless it's on
Speaker 2: my somebody sent me a message. I'll always try to respond.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know what the bashing of
Speaker 2: Dana Brown would be right now. But they kept Cam
Speaker 2: Smith Cam Smith's gonna be a player. You got to
Speaker 2: let him do this thing. I just to me, and
Speaker 2: so maybe I'm I hear it, we all hear it.
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about where it's like he's the reason
Speaker 2: they're not hitting. That's not true. So if that's if
Speaker 2: that's where this is going. But number two is yes,
Speaker 2: the inability to stop people from taking basis is a problem.
Speaker 2: And if they don't hit, you're gonna put way too
Speaker 2: much stress on a pitching staff because the expectations. You can't.
Speaker 2: You guys aren't going six and two thirds all five
Speaker 2: They're just not going to do it. There's one million
Speaker 2: of rotation in a five game start and another may
Speaker 2: g it to five and two thirds, but you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get three guys going six and two thirds or
Speaker 2: seven back to back to back. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: So and that's why all the specialists in the bullpen.
Speaker 2: So at some point in time, it's gonna have to
Speaker 2: the one's gonna have to carry the other. I mean,
Speaker 2: even though pitching has been dynamite for the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, even with injuries, they hung in there with
Speaker 2: Blanco and the way they pitched that in Scott coming
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen. They're going to have to hit.
Speaker 2: And it is early, but it is a concern. But
Speaker 2: I can't imagine, like I said, that your best hitters
Speaker 2: are gonna well, they've done it too many times to
Speaker 2: wallow down there now. Over a full season, we'll see
Speaker 2: injuries come into play. But what you're seeing now is
Speaker 2: not going to be a consistent run production for the Astros.
Speaker 2: It'd be almost impossible for them to stay there.
Speaker 8: I would say with Diana, it's more of just a
Speaker 8: momentary thing. The Kakuchie trade last year, how could you
Speaker 8: do that? You got absolutely fleeced. And then I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, you brought up the guys Bregman and Tucker
Speaker 8: both being American League National League Players of the Week.
Speaker 8: I mean the perceived handling of the Bregmant situation. I
Speaker 8: mean the way I looked at that. Sean was a
Speaker 8: general manager who said, I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting
Speaker 8: for this guy and for us to continuously up our
Speaker 8: offer of cool.
Speaker 2: They didn't continue to slap their offer, and I'm under saying
Speaker 2: that they didn't continue to slept.
Speaker 8: No do we know that now, But I mean, I'm
Speaker 8: just saying the time, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you
Speaker 8: just you're not gonna do the Pittsburgh Steelers with Aaron
Speaker 8: Rodgers thing.
Speaker 2: You're not waiting, you're going. I also, well, I think
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers are out of their mind waiting on
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers too, unless this deal has been done for
Speaker 2: three weeks and and he's known it, and that's why
Speaker 2: there's no sense of urgency. He's just kind of taking
Speaker 2: his time. But if he's holding him hostage, I already
Speaker 2: checked out because he's not going to win another super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So just so you know it as good as he is.
Speaker 2: But back to this is, I don't think that they made.
Speaker 2: My gut is that there was a certain ceiling on that,
Speaker 2: and so the whole Dana Brown there's only a certain
Speaker 2: place he can go. And I'm now now that I
Speaker 2: see it in the energy, I'm not sure Alex Redman
Speaker 2: wanted to be here. I'm not sure Alex Redman wanted
Speaker 2: to I mean maybe he did. And when we say
Speaker 2: and of course he did, well, he's got rejuvenated energy
Speaker 2: and he's playing out of his mind right now. So
Speaker 2: say what we want at a buck fifty? What it was?
Speaker 2: I don't think they got their offer up to one
Speaker 2: seventy one seventy five, because why do I think Dana
Speaker 2: Brown would have liked to keep him? I absolutely do.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, he said on this show, I said,
Speaker 2: who's the guy that has to make this go? And
Speaker 2: this was when they were floundering around last year and
Speaker 2: just started going. He goes with, I mean, I didn't
Speaker 2: get to finish my sentence, and he said, Alex Bregman,
Speaker 2: And you want that guy to get out of town
Speaker 2: for a buck sixty? I doubt it. But Alex was
Speaker 2: never taken a one sixty here. He would have loved
Speaker 2: to stay here for two ten, but it was easy
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else when he got what he wanted.
Speaker 2: He got good money, He's got all these opt outs,
Speaker 2: whateveryone wants to do. Watch him. I watched the Red
Speaker 2: Sox play problem most of the time. Every day. I'll
Speaker 2: watch minimum of six innings for one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: five games this year because I got the package and
Speaker 2: watch them watching yesterday, there's a different Alex Bregman approach
Speaker 2: this show. I'm just telling you there is, and I
Speaker 2: said it the other day yesterday. If this keeps up.
Speaker 2: When the end of the season comes, he'll be an
Speaker 2: MVP candidate. We've seen the movie in twenty nineteen. He's
Speaker 2: still now. I mean it appears he's capable doing. He
Speaker 2: loves a ballpark and there's something to be said, and
Speaker 2: there's a rejuvenated energy in him. If you can't see
Speaker 2: it with a naked eye, you're not paying attention. So
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure Bregnan want to be here. So
Speaker 2: you get to a point, Danny Brown, what are's supposed
Speaker 2: to do? Beg Borrow cheating steel, Jeff Van Gundy his
Speaker 2: ankle and if you didn't want to be here and
Speaker 2: a buck fifty six, they were never gonna let Dana
Speaker 2: Brown have two hundred million dollars to work with with
Speaker 2: Alex Bregman. Never and Alex was not coming back here
Speaker 2: for a buck sixty He could have easily so that
Speaker 2: discount wasn't coming or that fair salary, and so he
Speaker 2: moved on. There's certain things that sometimes as a gentle manager,
Speaker 2: if you it may be a win in losing. And
Speaker 2: we'll see over the long term. It's easy. Now we
Speaker 2: haven't even hit the twenty game mark, and look look
Speaker 2: at the conversations we're having I understand, and it's good banter.
Speaker 2: We gotta have good banter. But I got news for you,
Speaker 2: Jiner Diaz struggle. Isn't Dana Brown's issue. I mean it
Speaker 2: may become an issue. It ain't Data Brown's gig. He
Speaker 2: ain't holding the damn bat. Pull your damn self out
Speaker 2: of it. That's what it is. But I'm sure Dane
Speaker 2: is watching him closely because he always hangs around the
Speaker 2: cage and likes to offer advice without meddling with Joe
Speaker 2: spot his gig. So it's I know it's early, but
Speaker 2: the Dana Brown, it's his fault. Listen. Most of the
Speaker 2: responsibility usually should fall on the guy who's making the
Speaker 2: on the field decisions and the guy with the bat
Speaker 2: in his hand and the ball in his hand.
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Speaker 8: since we were talking Astros, Rob wants to wait in here. Trip,
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Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, guys. Just kind of wanted to piggyback
Speaker 10: on what you guys were just talking about. You know,
Speaker 10: with the current state of the Astros, it's it's time.
Speaker 10: We've been saying it for the past couple of years.
Speaker 10: Now that this this kind of rebuild phase was coming
Speaker 10: and we're there. I mean, we've got half the guys
Speaker 10: in the field, our brand new guys. Bregman and Tucker
Speaker 10: are gone. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.
Speaker 10: And I don't care that they both got ALNL Player
Speaker 10: of the Week. I'm happy for him, but at the
Speaker 10: end of the day, I still would have not not
Speaker 10: made those deals. I don't think we I don't think
Speaker 10: Bregman was ever gonna get the money that he was
Speaker 10: asking for from US. I don't think his performance the
Speaker 10: past three years had dictated it, and I certainly don't
Speaker 10: think he earned the contract that he got in Boston.
Speaker 10: I mean, great for him, but I still kind of
Speaker 10: think in the long run that there's a good chance
Speaker 10: Boston's gonna end up regretting that deal. With all the
Speaker 10: opt outs and the money they're paying him on a
Speaker 10: three year basis, this is the first year if he
Speaker 10: keeps us up. This is the first time in three
Speaker 10: or four years that he's even to sniff an All
Speaker 10: Star vote. So I mean, good bye him. That's exciting,
Speaker 10: but you know, history had also shown it's really not
Speaker 10: that surprising form over there because if you look at
Speaker 10: his stats before he went to Boston, his hitting stats
Speaker 10: in Boston were never bad beginning, middle or end of
Speaker 10: the season.
Speaker 5: He'd always hit well in Boston.
Speaker 10: So there was a side that was, well, he's a
Speaker 10: second half player, but there was also the side that says,
Speaker 10: he's always done well in Boston. So you weren't really
Speaker 10: sure what you were gonna get. But if you got
Speaker 10: to go by the numbers he didn't earn, then he
Speaker 10: didn't earn the contract that he was looking for here.
Speaker 10: So there's nothing to be upset about that. Hindsight's twenty
Speaker 10: twenty whatever. I'm not mad about it. I still wouldn't
Speaker 10: have not made that deal.
Speaker 2: I would have done the same thing they did. I
Speaker 2: would have let him go. I'm glad he went to Boston. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're exactly right. I would have done the same thing,
Speaker 2: considering what he wanted for a price, I would have
Speaker 2: let him go where he is.
Speaker 5: To quote moneyball, you know, you you let him go.
Speaker 10: That opens up unlimited amount of possibility and we'll find
Speaker 10: a way to play with that.
Speaker 5: But until then, this is a rebuild.
Speaker 10: We've got a guy that spent thirty games in the
Speaker 10: minors and before that he was a college player. He'll
Speaker 10: figure it out, but like you said, Sean, he's got
Speaker 10: growing pains to go through, and unfortunately, the team's gonna
Speaker 10: have to suffer and bear those growing pains, or otherwise
Speaker 10: he's never gonna become the star that he's capable of becoming.
Speaker 2: Fact.
Speaker 10: Until then, you know, these guys have got to play together.
Speaker 10: It's like I said, it's practically a whole new squad
Speaker 10: at two. They still learn in a brand new position.
Speaker 10: You know, Jordan has always said I want to play
Speaker 10: the field. I'm not sure when his bat's gonna wake
Speaker 10: up because it you know, again, the numbers show when
Speaker 10: he plays the field, his numbers are better. But now
Speaker 10: we've got guys that can regularly play those fields and
Speaker 10: they're they don't constantly put his knees at risk. Right,
Speaker 10: He's gonna have to figure out that adjustment.
Speaker 5: This is a growing year.
Speaker 11: Guys.
Speaker 5: We'll be fine, but we're gonna have to go through
Speaker 5: the bumps in the road. That's all I got, guys, all.
Speaker 2: Does He's exactly right. Roads said it before. Most roads
Speaker 2: are unpaved. They just are, and then they've had their paved.
Speaker 2: They've earned it. They paved it out a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now there's a little construction on FM fourteen sixty three.
Speaker 2: In full. Sure, they're going to have to some pitfalls
Speaker 2: where it rains and it stops down, all the all
Speaker 2: the silly, cheesy comparisons, but the bottom line is that
Speaker 2: they're there's some detours they're taking now. They haven't had
Speaker 2: much detour the last seven eight years. Now they earned
Speaker 2: it to get to that point, but detour of other competition.
Speaker 2: But I'm done about players and the detours they've handled.
Speaker 2: A player leaves, they've they've been fortunate the next guy
Speaker 2: stepped up and done his thing, or the overall team
Speaker 2: has grabbed it and said we'll overcome it, and they have.
Speaker 2: Now they're in a I don't even know if it's
Speaker 2: quite rebuilding, but it's different, different, and they're rebuilding some
Speaker 2: too because you've got some young players in the next
Speaker 2: three or four years. The lineup's even going to look
Speaker 2: different two years from now than it does now, different
Speaker 2: next year. It's just going to so they there is
Speaker 2: some you're taking a detour mentioned the right field. You've
Speaker 2: got a new third baseman, you got a new second baseman,
Speaker 2: you got a new first baseman, you got a dh
Speaker 2: to start off slow, you got a new left fielder,
Speaker 2: you got a new visual that Jake Myers is hitting.
Speaker 2: I mean at leads to east two times right, doing
Speaker 2: some things. So it's different, but doesn't mean it's bad.
Speaker 2: It's just started slow with the bats. But the growing
Speaker 2: pains get in line. They've been through them before, so
Speaker 2: this should not be any surprise, and you don't have
Speaker 2: to go through They're not losing one hundred games. They
Speaker 2: may lose eighty two games, they may lose eighty games,
Speaker 2: they may lose seventy games. They're not losing one hundred,
Speaker 2: so you're not getting no more sixty game you know,
Speaker 2: win seasons or fifty five games you win. They now
Speaker 2: have an opportunity, but the fans, all of us are
Speaker 2: going to have to sit there and say, Okay, be
Speaker 2: a little more patient. It's going to take the iron
Speaker 2: or another a little while to get going. Have not
Speaker 2: to do the back of baseball card has to do
Speaker 2: with a recent body of work. Guys been pretty good.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's this is not going to be perfectly
Speaker 2: paved road to get to where they want to go
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 8: It's just not well and it's also to the point
Speaker 8: of differentiating between retooling and rebuilding is because I think
Speaker 8: whenever you bring up the second our word right there
Speaker 8: in sports, fans immediately start to get PTSD, especially once
Speaker 8: here of oh, we're not going back to the early
Speaker 8: twenty tens, are we Like?
Speaker 2: That's what people think of.
Speaker 8: Whenever you mentioned that word is all right, well, then
Speaker 8: that means we're going to go in the Baseball Siberia.
Speaker 8: We just saw it wrap up over at Toyota Center.
Speaker 8: Now finally is the fruits of the labor of going
Speaker 8: through that. But for the last five years it sucked.
Speaker 8: The Rockets are just the Astros. A handful of years
Speaker 8: later back in when these people were suffering through eight
Speaker 8: thousand people being in the ballpark and nobody want to
Speaker 8: show up, that's who the Rocket And now the Rockets
Speaker 8: having Yeah, when Harden was here in West Westbrook and Crispaul,
Speaker 8: they won games and they well health they had a
Speaker 8: three to one lead and one So it's been a
Speaker 8: little more recent for them. But over the last few years,
Speaker 8: when Silas was hearing them growing and all the trades
Speaker 8: and a new GM, they went through the O, hell,
Speaker 8: we're not very good three years ago, well two years
Speaker 8: removed from what twenty two to twenty three wins. Two
Speaker 8: years removed and we're not even there yet because we're
Speaker 8: not even at the end of that season. And now
Speaker 8: here they are forty one last year, already in the
Speaker 8: fifties this year and the two seed locked up now
Speaker 8: they ain't. Nobody had that on their Bengal card playoffs
Speaker 8: this year. I remember listening to people goals to get
Speaker 8: to the playoffs be one of those teams just plus
Speaker 8: they're the two seed now, can't take a sigh of relief,
Speaker 8: and I'm sure Udoka is not letting them where it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 8: we're the two seed, we're pretty good. The truth of
Speaker 8: the matter is the odds for them to win an
Speaker 8: NBA championship by the prognosticators in Vegas, I don't know
Speaker 8: what they are, but I'll guarantee you they're not even
Speaker 8: in the top five, even as the two seed in
Speaker 8: the West.
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. Somebody below them where they're seeded is
Speaker 2: going to have better odds to win a championship than
Speaker 2: they are. Doesn't mean a hill of beans, because guess
Speaker 2: what Vegas doesn't get to play the game, and either
Speaker 2: do you and I they do, so they're just the
Speaker 2: they're just basically the Astros are going through these last
Speaker 2: few yars what the Astros went through before they got good.
Speaker 2: Now they're at the two seed, and I think they've
Speaker 2: arrived sooner than we expected, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: So now what do you do it?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 2: It's not cutting time after these three games. Now it's
Speaker 2: playoff time, which in essence becomes single elimination. Because I
Speaker 2: just approached every game you want to win because you
Speaker 2: don't want to be the one that's one game away
Speaker 2: from being out. You want to be the one that's
Speaker 2: one game away from moving on. So that I love it,
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that maybe they're a bit premature,
Speaker 2: a little year early.
Speaker 13: Good.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll go win it and do their thing. If
Speaker 2: they don't, great experience and growth long and they don't
Speaker 2: want to hear that right now, but from a distance,
Speaker 2: no matter what happens, And I don't ever like to
Speaker 2: say athletes are on house money. Screw house money, how
Speaker 2: cause guess what, we're never sure when you're got Marino.
Speaker 2: Dan Marino told me a handful of years ago. I said,
Speaker 2: we were talking about his appearance in nineteen eighty four
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl. Year two off the chow was
Speaker 2: at eighty four eighty three. Dan was a rookie in
Speaker 2: eighty three, so I think it was year two in
Speaker 2: the league. They got beat by the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: and a Super I think a year two was eighty
Speaker 2: four is when he threw for like five thousand yards
Speaker 2: and Marino forty some touchdowns, well ahead of his time.
Speaker 2: Dan told me years later, he said, Sean, you know
Speaker 2: what I expected to play, And after that loss, he
Speaker 2: said not, I hated losing. He's one of the fiercest
Speaker 2: competitors I've ever been around in my friggin life. He
Speaker 2: will cut your heart out, feed it to you on
Speaker 2: a platter, and smile at you while he's choking you
Speaker 2: out with his foot. That's Dan. And we had a
Speaker 2: conversation and he was open with it, and he said, Sean,
Speaker 2: I thought I'd go to four or five more. Happened
Speaker 2: so early in his career. He never saw it again,
Speaker 2: and he did he was still. I mean those kinds
Speaker 2: of things bug, because if Marino goes and wins the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl's people are putting him in Mount Rushmore. The
Speaker 2: only thing that's keeping him out is the ring because
Speaker 2: he could throw it better than anybody we've ever had. Right,
Speaker 2: that guy was awesome, so but that he's still he
Speaker 2: suffered from me to bothered him, and so these are
Speaker 2: hard to get to men. So screw when I all
Speaker 2: there on how screw house money? Just because this is
Speaker 2: a young team. What did this team gets split apart
Speaker 2: and somebody wants to go and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: somebody gets an attitude problem and you're right back where
Speaker 2: he started. Now, we don't want that to have happened,
Speaker 2: but they are hard to get to, So ain't no
Speaker 2: house man. They should have the idea that we're going
Speaker 2: to win that damn thing this year. If they don't,
Speaker 2: my point is the experience you get from either getting
Speaker 2: your ass kicked or moving through rounds is immeasurable for
Speaker 2: their future one way or the other. And how you
Speaker 2: deal with it is going to be on Udoka and
Speaker 2: the maturity of the team. But I'm telling you there's
Speaker 2: not a solo live that thought they were going to
Speaker 2: be the two seed when this season started, and you
Speaker 2: and I both.
Speaker 8: Know it now definitely exceeded expectations. No doubt about it
Speaker 8: all right, coming up next, Sean, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 8: a choice again today at seven fifteen, and it's gonna
Speaker 8: be a tough one for you. I guarantee that's coming
Speaker 8: up right here, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 8: Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros beat the
Speaker 8: Mariners in twelve two to one. Rockets get the Clippers tonight.
Speaker 8: They're already entrenched in the two seed and the Nuggets fire.
Speaker 8: Mike Malone just a couple of years removed from a
Speaker 8: world title. All Right, Sean has promised, I'm gonna give
Speaker 8: you two choices here. I'm gonna give you a swingers
Speaker 8: club against a church or a Florida man arrested for
Speaker 8: throwing pe at people over a declined job interview.
Speaker 2: Which one do you want? I'm gonna say, anytime you
Speaker 2: can weave urine on, somebody's a good thing. But you
Speaker 2: can ask a question on both. And let's see where
Speaker 2: the energy is from all of us. What we think
Speaker 2: is more either hilarious or fits on both? All right, quick.
Speaker 8: Summary on both. So, a swingers club in Connecticut is
Speaker 8: being asked to shut down operations because they're right down
Speaker 8: the street from a Baptist church, and the owner tells
Speaker 8: a Facebook page and an open letter that this is
Speaker 8: about the pastor of the church having a friendship with
Speaker 8: the mayor of the town. And the cops were called
Speaker 8: out to this place once, and one of the police
Speaker 8: officers telling the Bristol newspaper it's, you know, a bunch
Speaker 8: of consenting adults doing their own thing. As for the
Speaker 8: other guy, a guy in Florida, funny enough, you know,
Speaker 8: it seems like it always happens here. One of the
Speaker 8: job at a door distributor, and he applied for the
Speaker 8: job and then tried to get a job interview and
Speaker 8: they said no. Well then he showed back up with
Speaker 8: bottles of urine and said, here, why don't you eat these?
Speaker 2: Can you eat a bottle of urine? You know, like
Speaker 2: you know in throwing in sports, you know, eat this,
Speaker 2: you know, or eat or eat it? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: don't the ball. Yeah, when you say suck it, you're
Speaker 2: not referring to suck it. Could be anything, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got you know what I'm saying. Oh I know,
Speaker 2: oh man, sucky side they suck or socket? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, So eat this or or drink this. I
Speaker 2: would I kind of like both. So when you don't
Speaker 2: get the job or don't get the interview, that's what
Speaker 2: we do now, instead of go back to work and
Speaker 2: try to and apply it four hundred other places, which
Speaker 2: most of the world had to do.
Speaker 8: I've said this for the longest time now, Sean, that
Speaker 8: there is going to be a landmark lawsuit because some
Speaker 8: kid coming out of college is going to have applied
Speaker 8: for a job and not even gotten an interview, and
Speaker 8: it's going to be you know, oh, well they have
Speaker 8: to give me an interview.
Speaker 2: No they don't, that's up to them. Well I don't
Speaker 2: have to do anything. I don't have to do any
Speaker 2: of that. But the entitlement is, oh, I walk through
Speaker 2: the doors, I deserve an interview. Well maybe there's fifteen
Speaker 2: other people that deserve it more than you, So I
Speaker 2: don't pay attention. But right then and there he is
Speaker 2: now put out there that you wouldn't hire him anyway
Speaker 2: because the second goes wrong at work. This is your problem, child,
Speaker 2: hence why people may not give him any more interviews.
Speaker 2: You get my point. It becomes a cyclical thing, just constant,
Speaker 2: where oh I didn't get the interview. So let me
Speaker 2: drive it. Let me throw some pea on you. So
Speaker 2: what happens at work when he doesn't get the pay raise?
Speaker 2: What's next? Then drops trow and there on a trash
Speaker 2: can in the boss's office, or then what's after that?
Speaker 2: Then the next thing, and before you know it, you
Speaker 2: have to get rid of him anyway, So save yourself
Speaker 2: the trouble and don't hire his.
Speaker 8: Well, it wasn't there like somewhere like on school grounds.
Speaker 8: In this one place there was a cereal pooper and
Speaker 8: people were like, oh my god, no, But then they
Speaker 8: found out it was like the principle of the vice principle.
Speaker 2: That was doing it. Yeah, the old sneak attack. How's
Speaker 2: that grab you? And then we got a we got
Speaker 2: a swingers club or group that is next to a church. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's next to the Riverside listen, Baptist church. If you're
Speaker 2: if you're deep into the gospel and you're you're God
Speaker 2: fearing for you shouldn't have to worry about the temptation
Speaker 2: of the strip club next door. Handle your bit. A
Speaker 2: matter of fact, here's why you should look at it.
Speaker 2: I'm being a good example because when I walk, well
Speaker 2: that it's going to be the perfect the perfect phrase
Speaker 2: when they say, oh man, I'm sweating like a like
Speaker 2: a like a slut in church. Right, So now the salvation,
Speaker 2: So I now have it. You walk out of your
Speaker 2: freak you walk out of your freak show, and you're
Speaker 2: you're were you're you're banging your best friend's girls, brother's
Speaker 2: husband's friend. And in what in that what a swingers
Speaker 2: club is? You're you're you're you're making sorry making love
Speaker 2: to your friends with your best friend's husband or something.
Speaker 2: Then you could walk right out of church and go
Speaker 2: repent everybody. Right, So here's how you look at it.
Speaker 2: If you're a true, deep, humble, god fearing person, you're
Speaker 2: the pastor or the church, you say, we welcome everybody.
Speaker 2: We we welcome in. We don't judge anybody, because if
Speaker 2: I'm judging the people who are banging each other next door,
Speaker 2: am I truly God? There's a spirit of the Lord
Speaker 2: with me. I mean there's places in this city we
Speaker 2: don't have zoning. You go elementary school, wine bar, a
Speaker 2: liquor store, strip club, in a Mexican restaurant, bingo bango
Speaker 2: bongo right there. You get them all.
Speaker 11: So I to me.
Speaker 2: Now, I say it tongue in cheek and with a
Speaker 2: little bit of hyperbole, but in truth, I'm a church.
Speaker 2: You guys are doing your thing while we may not
Speaker 2: like it. I'm gonna be true love and you guys
Speaker 2: do your thing and if something's wrong, they'll take care
Speaker 2: of it. We're we're church and we don't judge. So listen.
Speaker 2: And if you're in, if you're into the swinging thing
Speaker 2: and you pick the wrong partner, just go next door
Speaker 2: and repent to the Good Lord and tell them you're sorry.
Speaker 2: Don't you feel like that club's like?
Speaker 8: Don't you feel don't you feel like clubs like this
Speaker 8: are literally like fight club or like, you know whatever,
Speaker 8: anonymous like you know, the whole point of it is,
Speaker 8: people are supposed to remain anonymous.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: It's one of those like, Hey, that's Tim. Hey do
Speaker 8: you know that Tim's a swinger? Like you can't have
Speaker 8: that following you around.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't church be treated like uh, shouldn't church be
Speaker 2: treated like Hippa did? If you see somebody walking out
Speaker 2: of the swingers club, but let them deal with their
Speaker 2: own issues. You see somebody walk on the Trip Strippers
Speaker 2: club and you're stand outside on the front steps of
Speaker 2: your church and you see him. It's like, hey, Steve,
Speaker 2: Hey Janet. Yeah, I mean, but if you're truly in
Speaker 2: the spirit of the Lord, okay, you accept them with
Speaker 2: open arms. Not well when you say accepted with open
Speaker 2: arms just with your clothes on, though, But but come on, though,
Speaker 2: you've been to enough churches to know you're going to say,
Speaker 2: you've been to enough what you do on your own time,
Speaker 2: you know, don't judge. Don't judge.
Speaker 8: Let the flag fly, bro that is to you. I mean,
Speaker 8: there's a shirt I got on right now. What it's
Speaker 8: like fight club? I don't need to know about it.
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it, right, So listen, let the
Speaker 2: let the zoids be zoids, and let the the Gospel
Speaker 2: principles rear their head and welcome anybody who wants to
Speaker 2: walk into their church. Isn't that the spirit of the Lord.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the spirit? Tell me? Do you don't judge
Speaker 2: anybody at our church? You walk in and they're mad
Speaker 2: at you as you were begging somebody else.
Speaker 8: That's church as a whole right here, right, you said,
Speaker 8: Steve and Janet, Well, because you know you're talking with
Speaker 8: another couple or somebody you know, Hey, Steve.
Speaker 2: Hey Janet. Hey, by the way, you know about them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's what happens at churches. You know enough churches.
Speaker 2: And plus, if you're living your life right, what goes
Speaker 2: on next door won't affect you. Hey, and you reach
Speaker 2: out and try to matter of fact, I say, you
Speaker 2: reach out and try to help them. Maybe go over
Speaker 2: to their party once in a while and make sure
Speaker 2: that things are going. Just keep everybody straight, you feel me.
Speaker 2: Everybody needs a chaperone. Hey, we all need a mentor. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So my philosophy is just, you know, love thy neighbor,
Speaker 2: even if they're banging your husband. I'm just kidding. Look man, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: you asked. I'm just telling you my love for the group. Okay,
Speaker 2: as a god fearing men, and I just I'm not
Speaker 2: going to judge anybody, you know. Just hey, you're all
Speaker 2: welcome on Saturday Sunday, come on into my flock. I
Speaker 2: wanted to be part of my flock. It's good to love.
Speaker 2: That great word, a great biblical word, it is, Hey,
Speaker 2: join my flock. That's it. Do you think that they're
Speaker 2: but they're probably mad and when they look next to
Speaker 2: her like I can't believe it. Then they're starting to
Speaker 2: look at it. Man, I got my own house in order.
Speaker 2: See your house in order. If you're a Catholic church,
Speaker 2: you'd have some of the you know, the Catholic ladies
Speaker 2: spitting on the ground. Disgusting. Yeah, but then you can
Speaker 2: go in and how many how many do you think
Speaker 2: you gotta throw?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're coming out of the booth. You're you're seeing
Speaker 8: quite a few penance you got to throw, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, Hey, just just live your life right and
Speaker 2: don't be Gladys Kravitz. I've used that before, which means
Speaker 2: quit staring into everybody else's window and judging them. Let
Speaker 2: them live their life. Now if they're breaking the law,
Speaker 2: but if they're doing their things, the moral law is
Speaker 2: none of my business. That's on them to decide. Then
Speaker 2: you can come in and repent to me. But I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be the pastor in anybody's church. So
Speaker 2: there you go. I'll just go listen to them.
Speaker 8: We cover at all people throwing p and while people
Speaker 8: doing other things. All right, golf, As I mentioned, we
Speaker 8: didn't have a chance to get to it. We'll get
Speaker 8: to it here. Does golf have a this problem? We'll
Speaker 8: talk about that right here Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 10: I had to live that.
Speaker 2: But the Shawn Salsbury shown is that fair to say, oh,
Speaker 2: now the player to Ben and later sometimes comes out
Speaker 2: to be a pretty good player. It's rare, right, I mean?
Speaker 2: Or is it the dominant player? But is that a
Speaker 2: is that the worst? Like like twenty years later when
Speaker 2: they go, hey, what did you get traded for a
Speaker 2: player to be named later? Well, I mean you can
Speaker 2: get crash Davis out of it, right, remember that? What
Speaker 2: are you doing here? I'm the player to be named later.
Speaker 2: Good thing, yeah, good leader, but maybe not raking like
Speaker 2: he'd want him to. But he's catcher, so we're good.
Speaker 2: So we're at that stress because she's wearing a dress.
Speaker 2: Come on, then there you go poise under pressure. But
Speaker 2: I always wonder, like, when you leave and you're hung
Speaker 2: on the plane in your new destination, do you feel
Speaker 2: disrespected because you got traded for a player to be
Speaker 2: named later It wasn't even worthy of getting you somebody now, Oh, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know who it's going to be, but it's
Speaker 2: a player to me much we'll get back to you
Speaker 2: feel like that's even worse. What'd you trade him for? Well,
Speaker 2: an apple and a roadmap or a bullet and a cigarette.
Speaker 2: What'd you trading for, well, the seventh round pick in
Speaker 2: twenty thirty, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just
Speaker 2: wondering if and I mean this joking because I think
Speaker 2: Montero hopefully it'll he can get back to the reason
Speaker 2: he got the big money the year before he got
Speaker 2: the big money here, that he can get back to
Speaker 2: being that guy in Atlanta. That'd be great for him.
Speaker 2: Obviously with Dana's relationship there, I'm sure they had some
Speaker 2: banter over, but the player to be named later almost
Speaker 2: feels like we were giving you away. That's almost the
Speaker 2: way I feel. And in this case because they're taking
Speaker 2: on salary to correct, yes, they're given cash with my
Speaker 2: paying for part of it. So with that, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: So basically that's what this is. The value. If the
Speaker 2: player to be a later ends up being an asset
Speaker 2: for you to use someone else's player, great, but it's
Speaker 2: almost as if you gave Montero way. And the truth
Speaker 2: of the matter is the return wasn't important. Getting clearing
Speaker 2: way for somebody else was and I and it started
Speaker 2: off with me joking around like Manna, you got traded
Speaker 2: for the player to be named later. That almost feels
Speaker 2: like there wasn't a lot of value placed on that one,
Speaker 2: was it? And in truth there's not. So hopefully it
Speaker 2: works out for him, root for anybody that goes on
Speaker 2: and is still competing, But it was probably it was
Speaker 2: probably time I got an idea here. It's kind of goofy,
Speaker 2: but stick with me. You're going to say something, goofy.
Speaker 8: That's a day that ends and why But what if
Speaker 8: the player kind of like masked singer style. We like
Speaker 8: dress them in like a huge you know, question mark
Speaker 8: and it's who could it be? Oh, I'd like that?
Speaker 8: Or like you know what's behind door number one, two
Speaker 8: or three? Was that prices?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where you say, or let's make a deal, remember
Speaker 2: the doors behind the deals? Or like gladiators, right, maybe
Speaker 2: you don't have a clean path. Maybe it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a gladiator with the tackling pad. The player to be
Speaker 2: named later should be. It's like when you order clothing
Speaker 2: like I I'll order some golf clothing or shirts and
Speaker 2: they'll say, you get the mystery box. Oh, so you'll
Speaker 2: order something from like Grunk Dolfer, Great Clothing, like by
Speaker 2: the way, just you know, just I digress with Great
Speaker 2: and we're going there awesome stuff and you go in
Speaker 2: there and they say, oh, well you get a mystery box.
Speaker 2: So maybe it comes with a golf hat, another golf
Speaker 2: shirt or maybe a belt, right, they get your sizes,
Speaker 2: So the mystery I think that's what we should start.
Speaker 2: Whenever there's a player to be named later trade or
Speaker 2: you're not sure who the next guy is going to be,
Speaker 2: you got to put him in a thing and they
Speaker 2: got to choose like straws like we used to do
Speaker 2: who's hitting first? Or when you're playing ball, who do
Speaker 2: you get to pick? You get first, pick right, like
Speaker 2: we would do for the master's thing. You draw the
Speaker 2: short straw, so you go second.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 2: So if you get the big straw, so I think
Speaker 2: we put him behind, and you may discover something kind
Speaker 2: of like an expansion draft to put him behind, and
Speaker 2: say I want door number one, and if door number
Speaker 2: one happens to be a dog, well, then the dog
Speaker 2: becomes your mascot. That's who you're traded for. If it
Speaker 2: happens to be well, Ronald Lacuna is behind door number
Speaker 2: two or door number three, well god bless you, but
Speaker 2: you have to put a player a non player, and
Speaker 2: like cash or a dud gift in the third one. Right,
Speaker 2: I'll take the dog. I'm good with that, the dud gift,
Speaker 2: so put it behind so the player to be that. There,
Speaker 2: we had a little They want all the gimmicks and sports.
Speaker 2: Let's add that I'm trading for a player to be
Speaker 2: a named later. Cool. Well, here's how we do it.
Speaker 2: Whenever that is mentioned in the contract, you get a
Speaker 2: gag gift a player that's got to be. Let's say
Speaker 2: he's got to be a player that's making eight million
Speaker 2: or more and then you got to give up on
Speaker 2: your right. You can't protect him. And let now he
Speaker 2: comes back to your and he doesn't even know he's unprotected.
Speaker 2: He's just behind door number two and door number three
Speaker 2: is like a mascot animal that comes to your clubhouses.
Speaker 2: You pick one and whatever one you get, that's the
Speaker 2: player to be named later for the guy you gave up.
Speaker 2: It's just add another gimmick to pro sports. We've got
Speaker 2: plenty of them. It's another baseball movie, Major League two.
Speaker 2: I got you in the outfielder from the Giants, really
Speaker 2: not those Giants. Yeah, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 2: And we do need to discuss though that's part of
Speaker 2: this as we joke, but serious. It'd be kind of
Speaker 2: fun if we're gonna ad gimmick. Let's ad a trade
Speaker 2: gimmick to it. Did you see how the Denver Nuggets
Speaker 2: did Mike Malone? It's dirty. It goes back to player empowerment,
Speaker 2: the pascification of this stuff. What because he coaches you
Speaker 2: hard and says it's bs. They don't watch tape or anything,
Speaker 2: and people can't handle tough coaching, the general manager, the
Speaker 2: coach gone. And I know they've struggled down the stretch.
Speaker 2: I got news for you. They're still NBA capable, champion
Speaker 2: capable with the best player in the world on their team.
Speaker 2: Were getting rid of coaches. We get rid of coaches
Speaker 2: way too quick in this league. Mike Malone's a winner.
Speaker 2: It's a perfect case in point that player. What do
Speaker 2: we call player empowerment, as I said on Twitter yesterday,
Speaker 2: is just another phrase for player pussification. Is that you
Speaker 2: get to run the show. And a team that's winning,
Speaker 2: they're two years removed from an NBA championship victory with
Speaker 2: a ring on their finger, and the dude's out because
Speaker 2: a player or too might not like the way he
Speaker 2: calls him out because they don't study, or said some
Speaker 2: of them are full of you know what, And he
Speaker 2: said it because Mike Malone coaches tough. And here's the
Speaker 2: biggest problem in society. Don't let our kids fail and coaches.
Speaker 2: If a coach is tough, he's a bad guy. We
Speaker 2: can't have him around. If a coach is soft, well,
Speaker 2: he's perfect for us, but he's not making our kids
Speaker 2: or the citizens that are going to be the kids
Speaker 2: becomes to this, most of them an't going to sniff
Speaker 2: pro sports. We don't have enough of it, and when
Speaker 2: we do get one, people are so offended. In player
Speaker 2: powerment gets to run a guy out of the building.
Speaker 2: This is just deeper than wins and losses. It's either
Speaker 2: the player's pissed or the front office just said you've
Speaker 2: lost for in a row. I don't like the optics.
Speaker 2: You're out that somebody in social media got him riled
Speaker 2: up because they're losing. Mike Malone should have a job
Speaker 2: tomorrow as a coach. Tough loves a little too much
Speaker 2: for some to handle, and we have pussified all of
Speaker 2: it way too often and it exists. Now, when are
Speaker 2: we getting rid of a guy who's been a while
Speaker 2: harsh at times? And we've seen guys like this in
Speaker 2: the nineties eighties. Mike Malone would be a twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars a year coach. I'm talking about if you paid
Speaker 2: him like you Because those guys can handle it. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying the players can't. But we've created this empowerment
Speaker 2: where the second coach says, criticizes you. It's personal. Now
Speaker 2: you got to get him out or the front office.
Speaker 2: Horrible that the Denver Nuggers would do that. Nuggets would
Speaker 2: do that, not nuggers. That's what you get on the
Speaker 2: top of Is that a nugger when you get a nuggie?
Speaker 2: There you go. But the Denver Nuggets would it would
Speaker 2: be fitting if they were an early out fitting. It
Speaker 2: seems like they're trending there. It's just I can't believe
Speaker 2: that a guy who coaches hard and coaches tough his
Speaker 2: is run out just like that. Because of his personality
Speaker 2: of that, he's a little harsher on people.
Speaker 8: Especially after he said what he said about Mike Brown
Speaker 8: getting fired in Sacramento. No class, no, you know whats Yeah,
Speaker 8: And he the thing I love about him, he's our
Speaker 8: type of guy because he's gonna tell like it is.
Speaker 2: It may not always be what you want to hear,
Speaker 2: but it sure is what most need to hear. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, sometimes you need those people and you realize it
Speaker 8: later on in life. All right, Tommy, Andy Brandon, see
Speaker 8: you guys right there. The golf conversation will save for
Speaker 8: eight o'clock, but get into a little bit more of
Speaker 8: the astros. A couple of interesting points brought up by
Speaker 8: Sean I want to carry over the other side right here,
Speaker 8: Sean Salisbury show.
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Speaker 8: Good morning, buddy.
Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to talk with you yesterday.
Speaker 2: How you doing doing?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I well, you didn't have time. It's all good.
Speaker 1: Well, we got time today.
Speaker 2: What do you got.
Speaker 3: I was I was saying for the astart the game
Speaker 3: last night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you liked what you saw?
Speaker 11: Huh?
Speaker 2: Pitching, hitting and.
Speaker 3: Diving catching or diving?
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, I do?
Speaker 2: Okay? Good? I mean are you encouraged by what you saw?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay? Well good man.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, hopefully they can keep it going man and
Speaker 8: get back above five hundred and get this thing back
Speaker 8: on track.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean They're already in the playoffs, so these
Speaker 8: next three games don't necessarily matter, but you know, once
Speaker 8: you get into the playoffs, it all matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, buddy. Yeah, Sean's right here him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good morning to him, Good morning to you, buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just want to give you your platform. You waited
Speaker 2: a long time yesterday, So you have at it. Man.
Speaker 2: Do you hear enough about you? We talk plenty in
Speaker 2: our four hours, So you have at it.
Speaker 3: Dan, Do you like dance?
Speaker 8: Do I The extra ending rule? I mean I don't
Speaker 8: mind it from it ends the game quicker. I don't
Speaker 8: necessarily worry about it too much. I mean I don't
Speaker 8: need to crush your pitching this early in the season.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: I can't stand it. It's a gimmick and I think
Speaker 2: it's weak. And they make enough money to be able
Speaker 2: to play a real extra inning baseball game that the
Speaker 2: rule needs to change. It's stupid. Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 2: after dark, There you go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was Astros after dark. I saw that with
Speaker 8: Blummer and TK. You're the man, Brandon. We'll talk to youmorrow. Okay, buddy,
Speaker 8: have a good day, all right, I see you, buddy.
Speaker 8: Was he listening to Naughty by Nature in the background.
Speaker 8: Did Triple you hear that I've heard? I thought I
Speaker 8: thought I heard that. I was like, Okay, who was it?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: What cut was it? What's it here? She go, yeah
Speaker 2: there chilling. Oh yeah, I like it. Man, next up
Speaker 2: on the on the cut list.
Speaker 5: Uh what is it?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: You're down with opp? Yeah, Naughty by Nature too. Now
Speaker 2: Brandon comes on here and starts breaking down and singing
Speaker 2: you down with opp. He says, yeah, you know me,
Speaker 2: every last lady or every last homie any way, whatever
Speaker 2: verse he's on. If he comes on here and starts
Speaker 2: blowing Naughty by Nature that song and then starts singing
Speaker 2: it out loud, and it gets to that point the chorus,
Speaker 2: and he starts saying you down with Opp. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know me, I'm Mike dropping and leaving the studio, and
Speaker 2: Brandon's the king. Well, I mean there you go, he get. Uh,
Speaker 2: Brandon's a real one. As I mentioned, Remember I said
Speaker 2: favorite Saint, Yeah, right, real ones. No, I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're if you're if you're rolling seven fifty five on
Speaker 2: a Tuesday Wednesday morning and it's OPP, you gotta get
Speaker 2: fired up for the day. Naughty by nature. Let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the way it rolls.
Speaker 8: We know he gets his coffee in the morning. We
Speaker 8: we know that he he rolls with some naughty by
Speaker 8: nature in the background.
Speaker 12: I like it.
Speaker 13: I like it.
Speaker 2: You know, he might be an og He might be
Speaker 2: just might be.
Speaker 8: And you know, speaking of OG's, you're the one that
Speaker 8: taught me that. You know, U Vanilla Ice does say
Speaker 8: DJ but then when he gets to uh, dcha revolves.
Speaker 2: It's what you talk. And I've been questioning on it
Speaker 2: a million of times, and I say, listen to the
Speaker 2: whole cut, and it's dcha. It's is weaved in there,
Speaker 2: just like everybody talks about Sesame Street and calls him
Speaker 2: mister snuffle snuffaluffigous. It's not snuffleopogus. The ninety percent of
Speaker 2: the world pronounced it's snuffle up agus. It's a key,
Speaker 2: not l How do you how did you say it truthfully? Snuffalopagus. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's snuffle upagus. Do hit the Google machine during the
Speaker 2: break say if I'm right or wrong. They call that
Speaker 2: the Nelson Mandela effect. Like you know, it's like certain
Speaker 2: things like, hey, that guy was in that movie. No
Speaker 2: he wasn't. Yes, he was wealthy.
Speaker 8: Useless knowledge is what I Oh, dude, I have an absolute,
Speaker 8: just fast wasteland of that in my brain. But if
Speaker 8: you all of a sudden get on one of these
Speaker 8: game shows and a'll a sadd they say the big
Speaker 8: bird's good friend, mister, and you have to choose, and
Speaker 8: you say snuffalufogus, you'll miss the money snuffle up against
Speaker 8: because the other two people that you're competing against will
Speaker 8: use the P.
Speaker 2: I will use the F. They'll say snuffalupogus. Snuffle up
Speaker 2: against wins you the prize.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, look, if Jeopardy were allowed for lifelines
Speaker 8: in one of the categories was sesame street peeps, well
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Speaker 4: the Mariners two to one in Seattle. Rockets are entrenched
Speaker 4: in the two spots in the Western Conference after the
Speaker 4: Thunder beat the Lakers last night. They think they get
Speaker 4: the Clippers tonight out in LA and the Masters Round
Speaker 4: one fires up tomorrow, the par three today, our picks
Speaker 4: coming up Sean in about thirty minutes, and then Dana
Speaker 4: Brown an hour and a half from now here on
Speaker 4: the show. So we got all of that to look
Speaker 4: forward to feeling good about mine. I'm telling you, well,
Speaker 4: you're picking second, so you may not get you guys.
Speaker 4: You better have a beat a plan.
Speaker 2: B Oh, I trust me, I've got I've got the
Speaker 2: draft board. Okay, you you actually put up a draft board.
Speaker 2: You went like you're preparing for right.
Speaker 12: I like that.
Speaker 2: That's the way you should be if you want to
Speaker 2: win what a GMS?
Speaker 8: You know, like next week, I'm sure that we'll get
Speaker 8: Casario talking to draft What do they always say?
Speaker 2: Trust our board? Yeah? And uh, you want to make
Speaker 2: sure you don't have any the guys a reach. You
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that one reaches, no reach, no drafting.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to have that guy, Mike, we might
Speaker 2: win the tournament. Hey, you know, okay, he's not gonna win.
Speaker 2: Nick Cassario says, you know, we just want good football players.
Speaker 2: I just want good golfers. Yeah, that's a solid ball strikers.
Speaker 8: So solid ball strikers who can scramble out of trouble,
Speaker 8: do all those things. That's that's what we're looking forward.
Speaker 8: You better be able to put. That's it, especially here.
Speaker 2: Be able to put and can Rory mcklelroll get by
Speaker 2: the metal block that August is presented.
Speaker 8: I just don't hook it into Butler cabin again. And
Speaker 8: I think you're good or whatever those cabins were that
Speaker 8: he nted into.
Speaker 2: But if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
Speaker 2: So that's what got to hit it straight.
Speaker 8: You got to avoid the Eisenhower pine, That's that's that's
Speaker 8: what you got to avoid. And the ponds right that
Speaker 8: exist on a golf course. Yeah, there you go, all
Speaker 8: of those uh triple e. Big Jay here says that
Speaker 8: he wants some Morgan wallin and he agrees with you.
Speaker 8: Let's let the gams play out a little bit. But
Speaker 8: I'm going to focus on the first part though. You know,
Speaker 8: I love you, Big Jay, but I learned a long
Speaker 8: time time ago that uh DJ's hate requests.
Speaker 2: You let DJs do their work.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: It's like Craig Robinson in the movie The Lot that
Speaker 8: he did with Jeremy Piven, that that was the whole
Speaker 8: thing with him, is that people. Hey, play a little
Speaker 8: Casey in the Sunshine Band. All right, it's coming right up.
Speaker 8: Don't tell me I do my job.
Speaker 2: Right there you go, there you go. But uh, patience
Speaker 2: is a good thing when it comes to young players
Speaker 2: and new players. That's it.
Speaker 8: We will see. Uh speaking of golf this week, Sean,
Speaker 8: let's get to the callers.
Speaker 5: Get to that.
Speaker 2: Let's get to them. They're more important than our golf
Speaker 2: talk right now. Right there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: Let's go Tommy up in New York. Tommy, what's going on? Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 14: I was almost about to hang up, you know, Uh
Speaker 14: lots unpacked, guys. Let me see you got the pea
Speaker 14: thing going on. You know, the uh swingers you know,
Speaker 14: would have been would have been okay if you had
Speaker 14: opp On during that stakeout the conversation, you know, down
Speaker 14: with opp I wanted to talk about trews.
Speaker 5: So you know, as Yankee fans.
Speaker 12: We've been through this recently with you know, us.
Speaker 14: Making poor decisions and you know trying to you know
Speaker 14: get you know, being spoiled with success and then having
Speaker 14: a grin and bear the you know the failures and
Speaker 14: things like that.
Speaker 12: So it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 14: You just got to go through those motions, the trials
Speaker 14: and tribulations. And Sean, I appreciate that analogy with fourteen
Speaker 14: sixty three because I've been green and bearing that thing
Speaker 14: for forever and it's it's just so agonizing.
Speaker 2: It sucks, blows make you want to move.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, oh I've considered it. We've considered moving because man,
Speaker 14: it's terrible. But you know, just grin and Barrett guys.
Speaker 14: I mean, you're gonna get through it as Astras fans.
Speaker 12: We go through it as I mean, every team goes
Speaker 12: through it.
Speaker 14: You just got a grin and Barrett man. But it's
Speaker 14: you know, getting back to the steakhout stuff. So I
Speaker 14: just went through, you know, a new hiring process.
Speaker 12: If that would have happened to me, I would have.
Speaker 14: Told told that guys that listen, take your pee, go
Speaker 14: to the Swinger's place.
Speaker 12: Ask you if they're into water sports.
Speaker 14: There you go take your next door and go out
Speaker 14: for forgiveness.
Speaker 2: The problem is that some feel somebody take you up
Speaker 2: on that, man, some kind of like that. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think some like it. Some use it on their
Speaker 2: hands obviously to grip a bat too.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Moistis Yeah, great, great stuff, man. We appreciate you. Thank you,
Speaker 2: holding on man, Thanks buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean a lot a lot happening in all of this.
Speaker 8: But uh, you know, look, you know everybody's got their
Speaker 8: own thing.
Speaker 2: Sean. I'm not here to judge you. I just don't
Speaker 2: have to do it. We know, we don't judge when
Speaker 2: it comes to your private life. That's it right, Just
Speaker 2: to just go repent if you need it. Life role
Speaker 2: on the side of the refrigerator, we got it for you.
Speaker 2: Andy wants to wait in here? Andy, what's going on?
Speaker 15: Let's talk two things we all talked about this morning.
Speaker 5: Hatter and hater or whatever.
Speaker 15: And uh, Dana Brown, Look, Dana Brown, if we're gonna
Speaker 15: give bagwell crap for bringing a bradw here after he
Speaker 15: his career was slowing down the years before he got here,
Speaker 15: and then same thing with when he signed gave Montario
Speaker 15: that big payday after he had that one good year
Speaker 15: compared to the three or four years in the last
Speaker 15: five years that he was not good at all. We
Speaker 15: got to do the same thing with Dana Brown because Patter, look,
Speaker 15: in twenty twenty he was had a three seventy nine ERA.
Speaker 12: In twenty twenty two he had a five to twenty two.
Speaker 15: ERA, and last year he had a three eighty e ER.
Speaker 15: He's the number two highest paid closer in the league.
Speaker 12: He can't do that now.
Speaker 15: Twenty one and twenty three he was at one twenty
Speaker 15: three and one eight ERA.
Speaker 12: He was lights out.
Speaker 2: But you don't pay him.
Speaker 5: You don't bring a guy in.
Speaker 15: Who every other year in the last five years he's produced.
Speaker 15: You don't pay him like the second highest paid player
Speaker 15: at the position for that kind of production. So for
Speaker 15: Haddner to for for the Hatter signing to be good,
Speaker 15: he has to do this three years in a row.
Speaker 15: He has to be lights out three years in a
Speaker 15: row from what he did last year. Now and then
Speaker 15: now look at look what look at our outfield now, Sean,
Speaker 15: I'm pretty sure you were hoping they were gonna grab
Speaker 15: an outfielder this year, right, and and there's no way
Speaker 15: that they thought camp Smith was going to make this
Speaker 15: team and be the starting right field.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When spring training started, I mean, you know, you want
Speaker 2: to see how good he is and say, oh, he'll
Speaker 2: start in Triple A and we'll see. And then he
Speaker 2: played so well and there was an opening out there
Speaker 2: because you didn't have a great outfield and put him in.
Speaker 2: And I think he's going to be a hell of
Speaker 2: a player. But there's no I've been begging for an
Speaker 2: outfielder for two straight years, an outfielder with pop, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt. Yeah, but the other team's got to be
Speaker 2: willing to play, and you got to be willing to
Speaker 2: pay as well. Yeah.
Speaker 15: And Myers, I mean, if Myers was the answer. Hell,
Speaker 15: his last two and six sixty games, his batting average
Speaker 15: was two twenty three, his OPS was six sixty in
Speaker 15: two hundred and sixty games. There's no way going into
Speaker 15: this season that you should have had him plug down
Speaker 15: at center field.
Speaker 12: There's no way.
Speaker 15: So David Brown has got some holes that he hasn't field, and.
Speaker 12: It's it's starting to show.
Speaker 15: And and and I don't know the split, but your
Speaker 15: color earlier said that Albarez hits better in the field well,
Speaker 15: they should have been grooming him to play first if
Speaker 15: they were outfold yet.
Speaker 8: Yet it's not gonna happen. Andy, It's not like if
Speaker 8: he's this far along in his career, it's not going
Speaker 8: to happen.
Speaker 12: Right Wait, come out, Come out.
Speaker 2: Where's al Tuba playing? Fine?
Speaker 8: But he's not playing first base. That's all I'm telling you.
Speaker 8: It's not going to happen. You have a guy there
Speaker 8: that's not moving off first base.
Speaker 15: Let field it's harder to play than first base.
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you, but he's he's out in
Speaker 2: left field.
Speaker 8: He plays a good enough left field when they play him,
Speaker 8: they play They play him at d H to preserve
Speaker 8: his legs.
Speaker 2: That's why they do it.
Speaker 15: Well, you don't think preserving your legs at first base
Speaker 15: first base you don't run.
Speaker 8: I don't need a first basement. I don't need a
Speaker 8: first baseman. I've got one for the next two years.
Speaker 5: I've got one.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you didn't have it before the year going.
Speaker 12: They should have started growing him.
Speaker 8: I don't worry about what I don't have when I
Speaker 8: have it right there. I don't worry about hypotheticals. Andy,
Speaker 8: appreciate the call. I mean he's not playing first base
Speaker 8: like it's it's if it's as clear as I could
Speaker 8: say it, and you know, not getting any more of
Speaker 8: those calls. Jordan Avarez will never play first base for
Speaker 8: the Houston Astros. Go ahead and get that out of
Speaker 8: the way. And it's a health thing for him, that preserving.
Speaker 8: But you're you're both right, he's never going to play
Speaker 8: first base. But I think Andy's point is, I don't
Speaker 8: think so much now that you've got Christian Walker. I
Speaker 8: think going into it the last couple of years, when
Speaker 8: it's been a position since he left, You're like, and
Speaker 8: even when Yuli was getting older, you needed to find
Speaker 8: the air apparent that he thought that maybe taking ground
Speaker 8: balls if you were going to play him in the field,
Speaker 8: and he wanted to play in the field and left
Speaker 8: field wasn't going to be the option because of his legs,
Speaker 8: you could still preserve him by putting him at first base.
Speaker 8: It's not gonna happen now, but this has been this
Speaker 8: is an age old conversation. Since Jordan's been league, we
Speaker 8: have this feeling that big guy don't want him any
Speaker 8: outfield DH first baseman. It got to the point where
Speaker 8: Poppy never played any place, but dh right, but maybe
Speaker 8: and Jordon's young enough. And you know, I get when
Speaker 8: Andy says, so you can both be right that he's
Speaker 8: not going to play first base. But I think Andy's
Speaker 8: point is, when you didn't have a first baseman, the
Speaker 8: natural progression you think for a big guy who you
Speaker 8: want to preserve his health but loves to play the field,
Speaker 8: would be first base. At this stage, that ship sailed,
Speaker 8: so you both can be right it ain't happening. But
Speaker 8: I get why thousands of people thought, well, why not
Speaker 8: try to play him there? If you can move Altuve
Speaker 8: to left field, you can move Jordan on to first base.
Speaker 8: But at this stage of the game, his legs are
Speaker 8: going to be more important. They would have gone out
Speaker 8: and found the first basement, which they did well. And
Speaker 8: to the point, you just brought up even more of
Speaker 8: a reason why you would have tried it last year
Speaker 8: because you didn't have a guy, because well, the one
Speaker 8: guy you sunk the money into he was nothing and
Speaker 8: you had to go with John Singleton over there. But
Speaker 8: thirty four saves last year for Josh Hater tied for
Speaker 8: fifth most in baseball, so not bad for having a
Speaker 8: down year. And this year he's been pretty unheittable, no
Speaker 8: doubt about it. All Right, the golf conversation a hangover,
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Speaker 8: back out to the phone lines.
Speaker 2: Sheena and Sugarland, good morning, how you doing?
Speaker 13: Good morning Salas calling kind of in response to the
Speaker 13: last caller. I don't see how you can make the
Speaker 13: comparison of the Hater trade or the Hater acquisition.
Speaker 2: And let's get his name right, it's Hater with a bray.
Speaker 13: So Brady was already starting to fall off when we
Speaker 13: got him, and we were hoping that he'd make that
Speaker 13: climb back, but you know that didn't happen. Hater had
Speaker 13: had two lights out seasons and yes, he did not
Speaker 13: live up to those numbers last year, but we put
Speaker 13: him in a lot of non safe situations. We had
Speaker 13: a lot of times where we were asking him to
Speaker 13: go out and get more than three outs, things that
Speaker 13: he hadn't done as much before. And he's been strong
Speaker 13: again this season. So I, you know, I don't understand
Speaker 13: that uh frame of reference at all. Number two and
Speaker 13: this is something a lot of scouts will tell you.
Speaker 13: This is something Dana Brown will tell you. It is
Speaker 13: a lot easier to transition an infielder to an outfielder
Speaker 13: as opposed to the other way around. There are a
Speaker 13: lot of intricacies to learning the infield, just situationally. You
Speaker 13: know a first base, Am.
Speaker 2: I holding on the runner?
Speaker 11: Here?
Speaker 13: Am I not holding on the runner? Am I covering
Speaker 13: first base? Or am I am letting the second baseman
Speaker 13: go to his left and get this? Or am I
Speaker 13: feeling the ball? You know, there's a lot more to
Speaker 13: learn to it. And DH saves your.
Speaker 2: Legs more than playing period. So it's first base.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're not running around the outfield, but you're still
Speaker 13: dhing is sitting on the bench. You're saving the legs.
Speaker 13: Christian Walker was a great acquisition and he's got a
Speaker 13: lot of the same characteristics as Jordon as far as
Speaker 13: a batter, he's got a great eye at the plate
Speaker 13: and he's got good power, even though the numbers haven't
Speaker 13: shown it. As far as his production this year, the
Speaker 13: number of hard hit balls is ridiculous, So he's going
Speaker 13: to be coming through. It's just got to give it
Speaker 13: a time because the hits and the swings are.
Speaker 2: There right now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate the call, Sheena. I mean, you know Sean,
Speaker 8: as we were talking about in the last segment, I mean,
Speaker 8: if they had any desire whatsoever on either side, both
Speaker 8: Jordan and the team, then he would have been there.
Speaker 8: And I mean, you didn't have a first basement last year.
Speaker 8: You were trying to put that thing together with duct
Speaker 8: tape and bailing wire and eventually it led to John Singleton.
Speaker 8: But the other part of it as well, the point
Speaker 8: she brings up is incredibly valid. You're even hesitant to
Speaker 8: play him mountain left field. So if that's the case already,
Speaker 8: and you're already limiting the amount of time he's out there,
Speaker 8: why would you put more on his plate in terms
Speaker 8: of field work.
Speaker 2: Well, you're not. And like I said, I understand Andy's point.
Speaker 2: Sheena makes a very valid point as well about the
Speaker 2: adjustment from one to the other, and I get it. Listen,
Speaker 2: it all comes down to decisions, and it's not just
Speaker 2: Dana Brown's decision to preserve Jordon Alvarez. They were way
Speaker 2: ahead of that before Dana Brown even got here. He
Speaker 2: was going to play. Now he's probably gonna play less
Speaker 2: left field than they're used to. Hence Whay al Twovey's
Speaker 2: out there, but it's the short term, long term, pay
Speaker 2: me now, pay me later. The one thing that does
Speaker 2: start to bother you, though, is if a player decid
Speaker 2: I mean if it and he's listened Jordon Alvarez over
Speaker 2: his career. I don't know what the exact splits are,
Speaker 2: but it only when he's in left field hits well,
Speaker 2: we've seen it. But also he hits pretty damn well
Speaker 2: when he's just the DH. We've seen that too. But
Speaker 2: if Jordon came he said, I want to play every
Speaker 2: day in the field, now that's a battle, kind of
Speaker 2: like the Dever's horror thing. I'm a third basin, Well, no,
Speaker 2: you're a DH. I'm a third No, you're a DH.
Speaker 2: We got a gold Glover at third base, and now
Speaker 2: it's starting to where he's starting to rake. Bregman's raking
Speaker 2: and your best player's playing third base. And the truth
Speaker 2: of the matter is Jordon's a better left fielder than
Speaker 2: al tuove He really is, But six months from now,
Speaker 2: who knows. But if he came to you, then you'd
Speaker 2: have to make the decision. But I'm assuming he just,
Speaker 2: you know, a DH. I wouldn't judge the position or
Speaker 2: how he's sitting right now. By the fact that he's
Speaker 2: not playing the outfield, the ship probably has sailed. Now,
Speaker 2: who knows what if something were we God forbid, Altuve
Speaker 2: gets a hammy or is that, then you may see
Speaker 2: a little bit more of Jordan in left field.
Speaker 1: So it's a.
Speaker 2: Decision you have to make. It's just preservation.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 2: If the guy was a consistent in his career, couldn't
Speaker 2: hit his weight and with which for him was about
Speaker 2: two forty, so it's been an average player in baseball,
Speaker 2: but couldn't hit unless he played the outfield, then you
Speaker 2: would just have to do it, say hopefully it doesn't
Speaker 2: get hurt. If the splits were so blatantly different and
Speaker 2: I don't know what the exact numbers are, but my
Speaker 2: guess is from the optics of watching him, he said
Speaker 2: plenty of home runs, driven in plenty of runs, and
Speaker 2: hit plenty well as a DH as well. But if
Speaker 2: it came to the point where the splits were blatant,
Speaker 2: then you say, okay, there's something to this, is there.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is he likes to play the outfield,
Speaker 2: hits there too. But the guy does hit when he's
Speaker 2: a DH. So but the ship is said, unless some
Speaker 2: crazy ass injury situation hits you, and regardless of whether
Speaker 2: Andy wants it or you don't or what have you.
Speaker 2: They went out and got Christian Walker. They don't want
Speaker 2: Jordan to play first base. And I know sometimes we
Speaker 2: make first base seem easy. It's not an easy position,
Speaker 2: but of the infield, it feels like, okay, I almost
Speaker 2: feel it goes shortstop, third base, first base, second base,
Speaker 2: I feel like second base because you're rarely digging out
Speaker 2: balls that are in the dirt. First base is There's
Speaker 2: a lot of things that go to it. So in
Speaker 2: that order, regardless, it's still difficult. And until it's an
Speaker 2: absolute need, Jordon's going to play the field anywhere other
Speaker 2: than spot times, you're not getting one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: games out of the month. Well, and to your point
Speaker 2: about first baseman, we found that out after you didn't
Speaker 2: have Juligar yell around anymore. When he had a guy
Speaker 2: that was a gold Glover over there playing the caliber
Speaker 2: that he did, you were like, oh, yeah, the defensive
Speaker 2: part of it, this is important too.
Speaker 8: It's not just a guy that can put balls over
Speaker 8: the wall. So in fact, yeah, absolutely, let's go to
Speaker 8: the northwest side. John wants the way in here, John,
Speaker 8: what's going on?
Speaker 11: Hey Fellas, Fellas, good morning to you.
Speaker 2: Morning.
Speaker 12: Hey man.
Speaker 11: Look you know my feeling is this right here?
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 11: I've been watching baseball quite a long time, and I'm
Speaker 11: sure your callers have too. But hey man, I think
Speaker 11: this is like the seven eight game in the season
Speaker 11: for the Astros. I don't know what they have yet,
Speaker 11: and what I see I like the partitial I see.
Speaker 11: I like I'm loving Perellas and I'm loving welcome because
Speaker 11: they might not be starting off with a good season.
Speaker 11: But I'll tell you one thing. When they hit the ball, well,
Speaker 11: I see power as far as Avareds though. When the
Speaker 11: Astros brought Avareds up, they had he had as I remember,
Speaker 11: he had to have little surgery on his knees and
Speaker 11: stuff like that. Look at here, he scares me when
Speaker 11: he runs from first base or second base. D H
Speaker 11: is just fine. As I'm concerned. And Sean, the reason
Speaker 11: I called. Did I hear you mentioned earlier? You can't
Speaker 11: stand there, gimme crap after the ninth inning.
Speaker 2: That's exactly I've been saying it all along. I cannot
Speaker 2: stand putting a guy on second base. It's not real baseball.
Speaker 2: It's a gimmick. Yes, I despise it.
Speaker 11: You didn't earn it, man, Yeah, man, I can't stand
Speaker 11: that either.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 11: It cheap THEMS baseball. It cheapens the fans, you know,
Speaker 11: fans that pay for paint, the subscriptions for this and everything.
Speaker 11: And really, my personal feeling is the reason they did
Speaker 11: this because they don't want to paint any more television money.
Speaker 11: And you know, we didn't have that many games that
Speaker 11: went fourteen fifteen twenty won twenty two games that year
Speaker 11: when the Astros I think they went twenty three or
Speaker 11: twenty four. Uh, overtime, overtime anything.
Speaker 12: Hey, man, it was wonderful.
Speaker 11: I was at work, man, I'm watching this game and
Speaker 11: then I get off work at two o'clock and the.
Speaker 12: Game is still going on. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 11: And this is the deal. You don't have that many
Speaker 11: overtime games like that in baseball, man, that you know
Speaker 11: that that that was just so terrible. But hey, in
Speaker 11: all the sports now right, they cutting things here and there.
Speaker 11: You know they're saying, well, we know these fans are
Speaker 11: gonna get used to it, but.
Speaker 12: We still want their money.
Speaker 2: Every month.
Speaker 11: Let's go ahead on and cut some of this and
Speaker 11: save money. Man, Hey, y'all, have a good day, fellas.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. I don't want to hear that
Speaker 2: it preserves injuries and all. I mean, you're safer when
Speaker 2: you're not playing the extra and it's it's a it's
Speaker 2: a crock.
Speaker 12: It was.
Speaker 2: It started during COVID and we know and they just
Speaker 2: haven't gone back. They don't want the games, whether it's still,
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, gett into your local programming and
Speaker 2: your whatever. The reason is, the bottom line is these
Speaker 2: guys make enough money to play extra innings. They just
Speaker 2: do the right way. Now with a guy on second base,
Speaker 2: this isn't Little league. You know the force runners out.
Speaker 2: When you have a ghost runner on first base, it's
Speaker 2: it's a gimmick. And that's exactly what is the They
Speaker 2: make enough money and we got enough time, and we
Speaker 2: like baseball games. You need to earn second base. You
Speaker 2: shouldn't get it. I don't care what anybody says, it's
Speaker 2: not We don't have to change rules just to change them.
Speaker 2: And I'm willing to watch four or five six more innings,
Speaker 2: regardless of the sleep you lose. If you love watching
Speaker 2: the game. If it goes extra innings the right way,
Speaker 2: earn your earn second base. This is it's ridiculous, and
Speaker 2: it was a rule put in as a gimmick, and
Speaker 2: now they're going to keep it and it's silly. It's
Speaker 2: just frigging silly. It's not real baseball. Well we can
Speaker 2: agree that Augustin nastional this week is not a gimmick.
Speaker 2: Rights it ever is If you go in with a gimmick,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get your ass handed.
Speaker 8: Say, if you try that, or even if you try
Speaker 8: it as a patron, they'll throw you right out.
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Speaker 8: It is that time and a good pull by Triple
Speaker 8: E right there to go with a Georgia artist in
Speaker 8: Alan Jackson, because well it's a tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 8: It is going to tee off tomorrow morning. We'll have
Speaker 8: it on here in the studio as it is Master's
Speaker 8: time at Augusta and the timing couldn't have been more
Speaker 8: perfect right there from Triple E.
Speaker 2: Great theme song. It is no every single every single time.
Speaker 2: This time of year.
Speaker 8: You hear this song, You're like, oh, yep, the couch
Speaker 8: it's gonna go ahead. It might as well have a
Speaker 8: seat belt on it, because I'm not moving for the
Speaker 8: next few hours. Yeah, hello friends, there you go. It's
Speaker 8: hello friends, welcoming us to Butler Cabin. The drive, the
Speaker 8: drive down Magnolia Lane.
Speaker 2: First page of the leader board. Scottie Scheffler at the top,
Speaker 2: Fred Couples, my former University Houston teammate, quickly to Verne
Speaker 2: Lundquist at sixteen. Now Frank Nabolo. Yep, no, Vern Lunquist
Speaker 2: did his last one last year. The great voice of yes,
Speaker 2: Sir Vern Lundquist. All right, draft time. That's it. Five
Speaker 2: people total score. If you don't make the cut any
Speaker 2: you know, if two of your players don't make the cut,
Speaker 2: then if they were plus five plus five and then
Speaker 2: two days, then that's ten strokes added to your score.
Speaker 2: So tiebreaker, tiebreaker. We usually have a sixth player, which
Speaker 2: we can do if you want a tie breaker. I
Speaker 2: would imagine with five and five we won't need one,
Speaker 2: but we can decide at the end of our picks.
Speaker 2: I'll start Scotty Scheffler, two time winner, has not been
Speaker 2: playing well there, you're My biggest concern with Scheffler is,
Speaker 2: for the first time since he's been dominating the last
Speaker 2: two or three years, I see more emotion on him
Speaker 2: and frustration on the golf course. Normally it's just yet
Speaker 2: he still can overcome it. The guy's brilliant. He's starting
Speaker 2: to put better. The last couple of weeks. He's ramped
Speaker 2: his game up. He was really good here in Houston.
Speaker 2: Give me Scotty Scheffler, the fact that he knows this
Speaker 2: golf course and he hits it where he wants to
Speaker 2: as long as the frustration stays out. Give me Scheffler
Speaker 2: at first.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean two time winner there is the course. Well,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with a live guy. I'm gonna go
Speaker 8: with Bryson.
Speaker 2: Okay, to Shambo. I'm going to go to Shambo. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I talk to a guy who's played in the tournament
Speaker 2: yesterday for for about forty five minutes, and he likes
Speaker 2: Bryson too long. Can bring it to your knees, but
Speaker 2: gonna have to putt. But that guy and I love
Speaker 2: his personality the way Deshambo's kind of one over fans
Speaker 2: and stuff lately. Give me a Ludwig Obert Okay. Second,
Speaker 2: because I I think he's got the prettiest swing in golf,
Speaker 2: and I think he's ready for another big breakthrough. He's
Speaker 2: won this year, and I fully expect him to win
Speaker 2: many more. First major, could possibly eighteen to one. I like,
Speaker 2: I like his ability as a young guy to kind
Speaker 2: of smile it off. I think that I think that
Speaker 2: he's going to be in the hut. Yeah, you mentioned
Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler. Former champions. Former champions usually do well, and
Speaker 2: this guy is one of those, and he's won this
Speaker 2: year on the tour. I'm gonna go ahead, Decki Matziama, Matziyama, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll get you. Are you right? You got? You's already
Speaker 2: really right? Yeah, you know. I'm trying to go long
Speaker 2: shots and see if I can mix that in. I
Speaker 2: don't think Xanderschoffley has played very well this year in
Speaker 2: my opinion, considering what we have. But he's always capable.
Speaker 2: And then you got the Shane Lowry's who put it well.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hang up there and say that Colin Morikawa
Speaker 2: hangs around, always good short game and can drive the
Speaker 2: golf ball. Give me him and he's won majors before
Speaker 2: a couple of them. I like him.
Speaker 8: I'm going to go with another star of the TGL.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the star of the TGL min
Speaker 8: woo Lee.
Speaker 2: You're going minwou uh min woo.
Speaker 8: Lee winner here at the text Children's you snopen solid
Speaker 8: ball striker very much, solid ball unfollow on social media too,
Speaker 8: no doubt. Then you go down to like the Jason
Speaker 8: Days and Wyndham Clark's. Is Dustin Johnson into it enough?
Speaker 2: Justin Rose always hangs around in these give me you know,
Speaker 2: we've gone through all this and none of us have
Speaker 2: picked the guy who's playing right now. He'd be the
Speaker 2: PGA Tour Player of the Year in twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: would be ry malroy one Cable Beach one at what
Speaker 2: the players, Yes, he did in an extra in extra
Speaker 2: holes the next day, I got to think that with
Speaker 2: the fourth pick of this and Rory is still sitting there,
Speaker 2: I don't He's had some miserable times here at Augusta,
Speaker 2: and this has been in his crawl and in his
Speaker 2: mental and I do believe that he's got a psychologist
Speaker 2: sports psychologist with him this week here. I do I
Speaker 2: think at Augusta, or at least was there early. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's Bob Rotella, doctor Bob Rotella. Maybe
Speaker 2: it is, who's a famed sports psychologist. But Rory's got
Speaker 2: to get over the mental block of this golf course.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to take him with a fourth pick
Speaker 2: in this draft. How can you not take him. He's
Speaker 2: the player of the year so far this year. Give me,
Speaker 2: give me macalrol O. Paralysis by analysis.
Speaker 8: Man. You know, if you truly passed it, you're truly
Speaker 8: passed it. So but still a good, solid pick by you.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with your Thanks for your opinion. I
Speaker 8: appreciate it. You like that always that they're in the
Speaker 8: fantasy drafts. You be a good pick. I appreciate it. Well,
Speaker 8: that's why I picked him. Yeah, it's a steal at
Speaker 8: the fourth pick. I know one thing, he'll make the cut.
Speaker 8: He slid down, he slid down the draft boards. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna go with Russell Henley. Solid player, Yes he is,
Speaker 8: he's playing. I'm playing well this year.
Speaker 2: You know, at some point in time, you're going to
Speaker 2: look down here and somebody like Tony feenaur A, Kegan Bradley,
Speaker 2: Brian Harmon won last week. You know, like I said
Speaker 2: Wyndham Clark, They're gonna rear their head. But I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm top heavy with my picks with odds this year.
Speaker 2: John Rahm's been a winner here. How's he going to play?
Speaker 2: He's long. I'm struggling between Ram and Kepka. I like
Speaker 2: to call him Brooksy. I just think that that if
Speaker 2: you've won here, the familiarity and when you're long, h
Speaker 2: I don't like to leave Brooks Kopka and his grind
Speaker 2: out of majors because the guy does everything for this
Speaker 2: and John Ram and then you start to look at
Speaker 2: the way Victor Howlin started to shape up his game.
Speaker 2: Give me John Ram because he's one here. I'm not
Speaker 2: real comfortable with a pick, but the fact that he's
Speaker 2: one here and live golfers have given some, you know,
Speaker 2: given the PGA guys the thing to think about. Give
Speaker 2: me wrong here because he's long, and if his putter's
Speaker 2: work and he can bring the course to his knees
Speaker 2: like the shamble, because he can he can drive the
Speaker 2: ball where guys are hitting five iron and he's hitting
Speaker 2: a flip wedge in or an eight iron in. Should
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, I'll take wrong. I'm anxious to see
Speaker 2: who manages the course. Well, we've got a putt and
Speaker 2: and uh, you know that's why a guy in truth,
Speaker 2: the guys who right now the best putters in the world.
Speaker 2: Give me somebody who can keep it in a three
Speaker 2: foot circle, which is hard to do there, but long
Speaker 2: players are hitting different clubs into it. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: John rom.
Speaker 8: Now, even though he hasn't been much of a winner,
Speaker 8: he is a guy that is a perennial top ten guy,
Speaker 8: and strategy does matter here. I'll go with Tony Now
Speaker 8: on my team.
Speaker 2: Okay, and Tony Now boy can and he can drive
Speaker 2: it a long way. The question is can he stand
Speaker 2: over putts and make them in majors? That's that's what
Speaker 2: he's gonna be faced with. All right, overtime pick in
Speaker 2: case there's a tie. Now, if your guy doesn't make
Speaker 2: the cut as a tieth, then your host, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, so give me Victor Hovelin. Is my sudden
Speaker 2: depth tiebreaker, Going Victor Hovelin. I'm gonna go Stepstraca played
Speaker 2: great this year. He has played great, really good putter,
Speaker 2: and he is hitting the ball exactly where he wants
Speaker 2: to hit it somebody like back Tier or somebody's gonna
Speaker 2: come through this way. I'm just telling you and be close.
Speaker 2: But I like that pick. Matter of fact, I think
Speaker 2: that's a damn good pick because he has hit it
Speaker 2: as close and as good as anybody as far as
Speaker 2: consistence he goes. He's on a front page of Leaderboard
Speaker 2: every week. Should be good. All right, So.
Speaker 8: Liking my picks, you're liking yours, and we're going to
Speaker 8: of course love the tradition unlike any other that masters
Speaker 8: can't wait.
Speaker 2: That's it. But one guy not gonna be part of
Speaker 2: the field this week. That's a problem.
Speaker 8: We can talk about that a little bit before we
Speaker 8: get into the nine o'clock hour. Forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 8: Dana Brown going to join us here on the Sean
Speaker 8: Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5: We want to win.
Speaker 2: Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 8: But is there a Tiger Woods hangover in the game
Speaker 8: as a whole? Because twenty nineteen will never be replicated
Speaker 8: as long as I'm alive. Like that final round was
Speaker 8: amazing where it was? Could he finally do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Were talking about his comeback? Yeah, his comeback? I
Speaker 2: mean just the television alone of could he do it?
Speaker 5: And then what was it?
Speaker 8: Mullinari put a couple in the water and you're like,
Speaker 8: oh my god, he's got the lead now, like this
Speaker 8: could actually happen. Then he finally taps it in wins
Speaker 8: the tournament, and it was you know what, for one
Speaker 8: more day, you know, we got the sun back in
Speaker 8: the sky for one more day with this guy of
Speaker 8: being able to be that guy again.
Speaker 2: So your question is do I think I need somebody
Speaker 2: like that or what's the point.
Speaker 8: Well, it's that the game just doesn't have him as
Speaker 8: what he was, And Brandal Shambley brought that up on
Speaker 8: the four Play podcast the Barschool Barstool Golf podcast. Everything
Speaker 8: he did was so exciting. He made the job easy.
Speaker 8: Here's your story tonight, here's a breakdown. You just show
Speaker 8: him chipping, you get a great rating. You realize he's
Speaker 8: sort of shuffled the competition coil every weekend in week outs.
Speaker 8: Not knock on the current group of players, it's just
Speaker 8: that we're all having a Tiger Woods hangover.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know if it's a hangover. I
Speaker 2: think it's you'd like more of it because you want
Speaker 2: the fire of him walking down the fairway and not
Speaker 2: talking to his opponent, the gamesmanship that went with it,
Speaker 2: the bury him while he's got a chance to do
Speaker 2: it at the greatest golf venue on the planet. When
Speaker 2: it comes to tournament play. We love guys that not
Speaker 2: only can be the here. We love comeback stories, We
Speaker 2: love great golfers. We want the guy that dominates so
Speaker 2: everybody else has to chase. We want Phil and Tiger
Speaker 2: to be in, you know, competition with each other with
Speaker 2: everything they do. We're looking for it. We don't have
Speaker 2: it right now. We got Scotti, Scheffler and Roy McElroy,
Speaker 2: but it's not really a head to head battle on
Speaker 2: a regular basis like we created the Tiger Woods created
Speaker 2: and that Jack and Arnie. We were missing that. We
Speaker 2: got good players, but where's the star powers. I think
Speaker 2: what people a talking about Scheffler no disrespect to a
Speaker 2: great players boring and that's okay. His game's not boring.
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal. Mechanics are weird, feet or moving everywhere, and
Speaker 2: the guy hits it exactly where he freakin wants to,
Speaker 2: and I love the guy, but there's there's some miss
Speaker 2: and then you know, some of these guys that we
Speaker 2: only see in four times a year because they're on
Speaker 2: the Lift Tour still bring Bryson d Schambeau. Quite frankly,
Speaker 2: he went from a guy that was a heel because
Speaker 2: people didn't thought he was overly arrogant and swinging too hard,
Speaker 2: wins a major and told you he was going to
Speaker 2: just bring the course to its knees basically by hitting
Speaker 2: it farther than everybody else. And he did end one
Speaker 2: and then going to you know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: blame a guy from going getting three hundred to four
Speaker 2: hundred million. Hell, who wouldn't. The reason why the top
Speaker 2: guys don't go to live is because they're making money.
Speaker 2: But if you're one hundred and twenty fifth player on tour,
Speaker 2: got to work to be to be inside that number
Speaker 2: so you can get your card the next year. I
Speaker 2: get why somebody wants to go and get their forty
Speaker 2: five million guaranteed okay, to set up their family. That
Speaker 2: neither here nor there. We don't have the weekly oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, we probably have over the last two years,
Speaker 2: what twenty new winners. While we love the story of
Speaker 2: a guy getting his first win and struggling through it
Speaker 2: and kissing his newborn baby with his wife. We still love.
Speaker 2: Oh there's Tiger Woods dominance again. We want a villain
Speaker 2: and we want a hero, and then we'd love them
Speaker 2: to be pitted against each other. And that's just what
Speaker 2: we got. Great golfers, I mean, phenomenal players can hit
Speaker 2: it everywhere. The problem is that while we got the
Speaker 2: dominant Scottie Scheffler and Rory mclurry, the biggest story for
Speaker 2: this week without Tiger Woods would be if Rory McElroy
Speaker 2: wins the tournament, or is battling a live guy and
Speaker 2: Roy's outspoken and he and Dschambeau, or he and John Rahm,
Speaker 2: or he and Dot Victor Hovel, Are he and somebody
Speaker 2: who's a you know, a live golfer. It's McElroy and
Speaker 2: whoever else we want the Is he gonna choke? Is
Speaker 2: he gonna go Greg Norman? Is he gonna go Rory
Speaker 2: McElroy and at golf course? Or is he gonna do
Speaker 2: what Rory's done this year and bury the field and
Speaker 2: go win his third tournament and be on his way
Speaker 2: to a seven victory nineteen or twenty twenty five. But
Speaker 2: the biggest draw this week and it may not even
Speaker 2: be Scheffler and McElroy, although for star power standing on
Speaker 2: number twelve if they were playing in the last group
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Now we're onto something because it's star power,
Speaker 2: even though Rory's not from the United States, but he's
Speaker 2: he's been on a tour like eight million years and
Speaker 2: he's not even thirty seven years old yet. And then Scheffler,
Speaker 2: who's calm, has won it before. We'd love the competition,
Speaker 2: but in truth we want the hatred part of the conversation.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want Rory at twelve with d Chambeau and
Speaker 2: him locked in hell on Saturday, you can push Chevy,
Speaker 2: but I know we play two man groups on the
Speaker 2: final day of the Masters. Who doesn't want Rory versus
Speaker 2: a d Chambeau who doesn't want Rory versus somebody else
Speaker 2: who's an outspoken guy and his plays on the live
Speaker 2: tour of Court, Dustin Johnson, even though people think he's
Speaker 2: boring too. He just hits the long way and damn
Speaker 2: good player and he's won there. So that's what the
Speaker 2: Tiger woulds affect. That's the problem we don't have. Tiger
Speaker 2: was the villain at times because everybody thinks he owed
Speaker 2: them an apology to them for the moral things that
Speaker 2: he went through. He didn't know any of an apology
Speaker 2: other than his wife and whoever else he felt. He
Speaker 2: didn't know me an apology. I didn't look to him
Speaker 2: to be my marriage counselor anyway. So there's that. But
Speaker 2: he's also the hero of the villain and all the comebacks.
Speaker 12: We love it.
Speaker 2: So since he's not there, what's the next biggest story
Speaker 2: repeat by Sheffeld. But even bigger is Rory McElroy's lack
Speaker 2: of ability to close there and outspoken, and nothing better
Speaker 2: would serve them to say, Oh, we're on the twelfth
Speaker 2: and he and a live golfer are head to head
Speaker 2: playing and they're not talking very much on the golf
Speaker 2: course and Rory's and now here are the demons that
Speaker 2: he's had to deal with. Can he do it today?
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't, the ratings will go through the roof,
Speaker 2: or if he does. But that's what we're craving. We're
Speaker 2: not craving, I hate to say it, You're not craving
Speaker 2: Victor Hovlin playing Rory mackel or. Victor Hovlin and Tony
Speaker 2: Fenow we love them both now but one with a
Speaker 2: two stroke lead going into sixteen, and we're like, great,
Speaker 2: we love the villain, we love the hero, and the
Speaker 2: only way to get that is by the villain part
Speaker 2: of one from the different tour at Augusta because they've
Speaker 2: lived tour. Guy's pretty good and they've won majors. And
Speaker 2: then you got the other side where a guy who
Speaker 2: hasn't won there that we think right now is the
Speaker 2: best golfer on the PGA Tour with the way he's
Speaker 2: playing this year.
Speaker 8: I mean, the storylines do matter, but it's also too.
Speaker 8: I mean, Tiger created the storyline because he transformed the sport.
Speaker 8: He got athletes to start playing the game. He got
Speaker 8: players on tour who said, hey, you know what, if
Speaker 8: that guy's this good, I need to start looking like him.
Speaker 8: I need to be in better shape, I need to
Speaker 8: start lifting weights, I need to actually look like an
Speaker 8: athlete out here. But not to be underscored by the
Speaker 8: fact of oh, yeah, hey, that guy's just got a
Speaker 8: ton of God given talent, and yes he does that.
Speaker 8: But I mean the way that players dress on tour.
Speaker 8: I mean the guy getting his own clothing line, all
Speaker 8: of these different types of things.
Speaker 2: Those are things the game didn't happen. And what it
Speaker 2: goes with tiger Io is you're never gonna see talent
Speaker 2: is obvious when he won him back in nineteen. More
Speaker 2: grit than talent. I mean, he can barely walk at times.
Speaker 2: I mean, and there's nobody ever on the golf tour
Speaker 2: that's going to overcome this many obstacles, some self inflicted
Speaker 2: by him, whether it's injury, whether it's achilles, whether it's
Speaker 2: leg almost being taken, whether it's what happened with the
Speaker 2: off the field stuff, with the why, all those things,
Speaker 2: and he just keeps coming back another life. But that
Speaker 2: life's not just created by talent. It's back in there saying.
Speaker 2: And he will play another PGA Tour event, I assure you,
Speaker 2: because of his grind. I don't know if he'll win one,
Speaker 2: but he will play in one again. And that's just
Speaker 2: who he is. You're never going to see it again.
Speaker 2: Why you may see guys win a lot, and you're
Speaker 2: never gonna see it again because very few people have
Speaker 2: the grit and wanting. Most would have said, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm done, I almost lost a leg, this is a
Speaker 2: second another Achilles, all these things that go with it,
Speaker 2: you're not seeing that again. Maybe from him, he'll compete
Speaker 2: and make the cut there again, but you're not going
Speaker 2: to see another player go through. Most would just say
Speaker 2: I don't have the grit to deal with all the
Speaker 2: and then all the way social media beat down on him,
Speaker 2: and he just kept staying the course, stay in the
Speaker 2: course and wins again. You're not going to see a
Speaker 2: comeback like he gave you in twenty nineteen. Nobody's doing that.
Speaker 2: You'll have guys that win, but nobody's going to do
Speaker 2: it in the journey that Tiger Woods took, no.
Speaker 8: Doubt about it. It was almost like Jack in eighty six.
Speaker 8: That's a dated reference right there, but just look it
Speaker 8: up for the kids out there.
Speaker 2: Jack was form more age than yeah, No one say
Speaker 2: forty seven things of adversity and making the Yeah. His
Speaker 2: was like forty six year olds can't win here well,
Speaker 2: and Fred Couples did a pretty good job of winning
Speaker 2: there as he was a little older too, and keeping
Speaker 2: the ball up on number twelve. I love it, but
Speaker 2: we liked the hero in the villain and at different
Speaker 2: times Tiger Woods has played both and that's not a
Speaker 2: bad thing for PGA Tour Golf McElroy would be the
Speaker 2: story this week. Oh, I always wore Sunday red. I
Speaker 2: was always ready. I always wanted to see.
Speaker 5: Him roar it out.
Speaker 2: The other thing, even when you're mad at him, you
Speaker 2: wanted to see him win. Damn right. Yeah, twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: was awesome, all right?
Speaker 8: Coming up next Beckett back in the the Astros conversation,
Speaker 8: because well, these guys, they're the ones absolutely stepping up.
Speaker 8: We'll talk about them also, Dana Brown coming up in
Speaker 8: about thirty minutes. Right here, Sewn Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 8: win last night two to one, twelve innings against the
Speaker 8: Mariners there in Seattle. They'll close out series today. Rocket's
Speaker 8: going to take on the Clippers tonight. So that is
Speaker 8: what we have speaking of the Astros Sean, I mean,
Speaker 8: we talked about this a little bit earlier on this show.
Speaker 8: Wanted to bring the conversation back of the pitching being
Speaker 8: exactly what Dana Brown has told us this group could be.
Speaker 8: And last year we were pleasantly surprised by guys like
Speaker 8: Taylor Scott's Renel Blanco, both of those guys struggling a
Speaker 8: little bit in the early going. But while they have
Speaker 8: their struggles, you get guys like Ryan Gusto. Hey, by
Speaker 8: the way, you got a runner on second, nobody out
Speaker 8: and it's a tie ball game. A little bleeder gets through,
Speaker 8: this game's over. You have Ryan Gusto coming in last
Speaker 8: night saying, you know what I'm up for this, I'll
Speaker 8: get some guys out, and he's able to wiggle out
Speaker 8: of the trouble with a flyout and then a double
Speaker 8: play to be able to end the inning. Steven Okert
Speaker 8: another guy that whenever you've called his name and he's
Speaker 8: come jogging out of the bullpen, he stepped up and
Speaker 8: he's absolutely done.
Speaker 2: Wonders for this team. Yeah, they I love it when
Speaker 2: it's not just earning the respect of the manager and
Speaker 2: the general manager and the trust, it's the players they
Speaker 2: know and to be able to do in there and
Speaker 2: close it out in these situations or add an inning,
Speaker 2: give a quality inning, or you know, get your business
Speaker 2: done at the back end of the bullpen, or give
Speaker 2: you six innings at the front. But the two names
Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, Okert and Gusto doing their gig.
Speaker 2: And while I understand that they're trying to gain everybody's
Speaker 2: trust and do it and win, I can't begin to
Speaker 2: tell you how much it means. I would imagine if
Speaker 2: you take them aside and say, what's the most important
Speaker 2: thing about getting you to the next game and the
Speaker 2: next level, And aside from doing your job, the impact,
Speaker 2: the impact they're trying to make is making sure that
Speaker 2: the manager of pitching, coach and their players trust them.
Speaker 2: Every time you run them out there, and going back
Speaker 2: to your point about Scott that you're like, man, when
Speaker 2: are you going to give somebody else to try? You're
Speaker 2: basically done with him in that role right now. But
Speaker 2: it's easy now imagine if you needed him later on
Speaker 2: and you decided that you would push him down and
Speaker 2: not give him the seventh or give him the belief
Speaker 2: in a high leverage situation that a spot puts him in.
Speaker 2: That if you decided this early eleven games in the
Speaker 2: season to move down, and then two months from now
Speaker 2: you need him in a high leverage, pressure situation, there
Speaker 2: is a method to it. And winning that trust over
Speaker 2: from not only a manager but the guys who are
Speaker 2: in the field and trust you is far more important
Speaker 2: than our opinion of it, I assure you, but those guys,
Speaker 2: but you also have to perform, as all the talk
Speaker 2: and history and back of a card and all that
Speaker 2: means nothing at that moment. And at that moment right now,
Speaker 2: the pitching staff is doing what they've done quite frankly
Speaker 2: for the last one year and a half to two
Speaker 2: years counting not counting this year yet, but counting this year.
Speaker 2: For their success is they've been the staple and the
Speaker 2: backbone this team and two new guys, two more guys
Speaker 2: that are adding to it and been really really good
Speaker 2: coming out of spring training and giving you what you
Speaker 2: need at least eleven games into the season.
Speaker 8: To your point, though, about Taylor Scott, why is it
Speaker 8: fair to him? Why is it fair to you to
Speaker 8: continue to put him in that spot if he's not
Speaker 8: performing in it right now? Why a soft landing spot
Speaker 8: to be able to build back up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And why? Okay, so, but you are how many
Speaker 2: how many appearances does he have this year? You're judging
Speaker 2: his whole body of work last year and coming into
Speaker 2: the season loving him. We are eleven games in and
Speaker 2: you're saying, what would you say, why is it fair?
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about fair. I'm not worried about that,
Speaker 2: Gusto or anybody else's opinion on fair or yours or mine.
Speaker 2: When it comes out there, the I always I always
Speaker 2: defer to the guys that are around and seeing it
Speaker 2: all the time, and it is a I don't think
Speaker 2: they're looking on the short term. I think you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's going to be necessary for us. What's more important
Speaker 2: right now? They won the game, he hasn't been the
Speaker 2: Scott that you've counted on yet eleven games in and
Speaker 2: a handful of appearances. However, many innings he's got I'm
Speaker 2: sure you have in front of you. But looking ahead,
Speaker 2: is it smart to say the guy's no good for us?
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, But what confidence are
Speaker 2: you gaining in a not? Like I said, there's a
Speaker 2: difference between good reps and reps you don't need. You
Speaker 2: just don't need reps. You need quality reps, and I
Speaker 2: don't know how to get I don't know how to
Speaker 2: get high leverage reps in the third inning or the
Speaker 2: fourth inning. I don't now every rep matters if it's
Speaker 2: working towards bettering you. But all reps aren't good reps,
Speaker 2: and all pressure reps the fourth inning aim as much
Speaker 2: pressure as the seventh inning. So now you got hell,
Speaker 2: if you're getting your ass kicked, you need somebody to
Speaker 2: shut him down for three outs and then okay, that
Speaker 2: built the confidence, and sure, but what it would tell
Speaker 2: me if I was in a spot eleven games in
Speaker 2: and I'm already demoted. Not that I'm worried about his
Speaker 2: overall psyche, but as a relief, we better worry about
Speaker 2: it because I'm not in the field good business. I'm
Speaker 2: in the production business. But eleven games in, are we
Speaker 2: really there yet? Where it's like anah, well, well, you
Speaker 2: know it's not fair to have him coming in there,
Speaker 2: not fair to who. I don't care about fair. I
Speaker 2: care about if they believe in him, and the collateral
Speaker 2: damage it does if you need him later. The only
Speaker 2: way I know how to perform under pressure is being pressure.
Speaker 2: You can't simulate it in the bullpen, and he's sure
Speaker 2: as hell can't simulate it in the third inning when
Speaker 2: the score zero zero and there's nobody on and you're
Speaker 2: going through it. You walk off saying great, But when
Speaker 2: am I getting back to where they trust me? I
Speaker 2: don't think the trust factor should be diminished Eleven games
Speaker 2: into a season.
Speaker 8: Now, And I mean that might be a little bit
Speaker 8: strong to say completely take him out of the spot. Sure,
Speaker 8: but five games this year eight ten, e three and
Speaker 8: a third innings, so he had a rough spring. It's
Speaker 8: carried over into the season. I get working your way
Speaker 8: out of it. But then, also too Sean to your point,
Speaker 8: I mean, was that say to a guy like Brian
Speaker 8: King who comes in in absolutely shoves Steven Okert.
Speaker 2: It tells me that whatever role they're in, keep doing
Speaker 2: your thing. The seventh inning isn't the catch all for
Speaker 2: star players and relievers. I know it's leading to a
Speaker 2: bray you and leading to hater, but you got to
Speaker 2: take your role. If you're the fifth inning or long
Speaker 2: relief guy, then you deal with it. And in case
Speaker 2: c see, you're in the business of making sure those
Speaker 2: guys what's fair to them, what's fair as they're on
Speaker 2: the roster. And if you're pitching in the fourth inning
Speaker 2: because we've had a three and a third performance by
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, get them out. That's his job. You
Speaker 2: don't get rewarded eleven games in just because bam, you
Speaker 2: know what you deserve it well, thirty five games in
Speaker 2: if he's earned it and the production's not there from
Speaker 2: anybody else, and got to have that guy in the
Speaker 2: cent it'll work itself out. Either a performance is going
Speaker 2: to keep you there or it's gonna find you. It's
Speaker 2: gonna find somebody else. The glove will be on the
Speaker 2: mound if you don't perform. So I'm not in the man.
Speaker 2: What if the other guy's feelings are hurt, If you're
Speaker 2: the fourth inning guy or long relief guy, deal with it,
Speaker 2: and you want to be the seventh inning guy? Keep
Speaker 2: getting people out in the fifth inning? What if okay,
Speaker 2: because of a short body of work by that standard.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned you're concerned about Yiner does Yiner das
Speaker 2: now get set down to he should? Should he eleven
Speaker 2: games in after all last year be the backup catcher?
Speaker 2: Now then why are we then? Why is Taylor Scott
Speaker 2: being moved out of the seventh because of five three
Speaker 2: innings of appearance? After all? That a struggle in spring training?
Speaker 2: But according to people out there, I hear it's just
Speaker 2: spring training. Why I always say the emphasis is on
Speaker 2: spre It does matter. So are we there three weeks
Speaker 2: from now? Dude, now it's time to move? But are
Speaker 2: we really after three innings? Singing?
Speaker 11: And man?
Speaker 2: We got it? Demoting And I'm not worried about King
Speaker 2: or anybody else's feelings about they deserve to be the seventh.
Speaker 2: You keep doing what you do in the fifth and
Speaker 2: it may it may rear its head.
Speaker 8: Well, it's not even just about you know, demoting and
Speaker 8: promoting guys and what's fair to them, But it's about
Speaker 8: to your point of roles that they've been asked to fulfill,
Speaker 8: they've done it. I mean, that's a tough place to
Speaker 8: put Ryan gust So even as well as he's pitched
Speaker 8: in the early going last night and Sean, what does
Speaker 8: he do?
Speaker 2: He came through. Okay, what if Gusto you moved into
Speaker 2: the year, you'd make him the seventh inning guy. And
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not blaming him. I'm blaming the guys
Speaker 2: for getting one run. That's who I'm okay, Well let
Speaker 2: me okay then, but if he's the seventh inning guy,
Speaker 2: let let's just say you think he's a boom put
Speaker 2: him in there, and he has three straight outings were
Speaker 2: three innings and a third where he blew a lead
Speaker 2: or didn't do what he wanted, didn't didn't preserve getting
Speaker 2: to the eighth inning guy and Brian Brady, then what
Speaker 2: are you want to move him out? Already?
Speaker 8: Then it works itself out and you have to go
Speaker 8: with somebody else that you trust to get those outs.
Speaker 2: It's three innings enough. Probably you need a little bit
Speaker 2: more of a sample size, and to your sample size,
Speaker 2: bigger Gusto sample size or Scott sam I'm not saying
Speaker 2: gust is not gonna be a star right now. If
Speaker 2: you're talking about I'm just as so I'm questioning if
Speaker 2: we're willing to make these decisions after three innings for
Speaker 2: a guy after what he did last year, then I'd
Speaker 2: suggest that we probably don't understand the grind, you and I.
Speaker 2: But if you're telling me Gusto has earned at eleven
Speaker 2: games in so he can unearn it in three innings
Speaker 2: if he goes in there and blows two blows, two
Speaker 2: opportunities to keep them in the lead. Correct, So you'd
Speaker 2: want to move him out? How do we establish roles
Speaker 2: defined if we're making decisions based on twenty at bats
Speaker 2: or three innings? So we why if you're talking about feelings,
Speaker 2: why don't we are we rewarding Scott for all the
Speaker 2: stuff he was able to pull through last year and
Speaker 2: keep a team together at times and in the bullpen
Speaker 2: and do everything was asked? And we're if you're talking
Speaker 2: about what's fair? Is it fair to run away on
Speaker 2: him at three innings into a season? It doesn't mean
Speaker 2: if you take it away that it can't be we
Speaker 2: earned re earned, Okay, So how are you going to
Speaker 2: earn poisoner? How you're going to earn the seventh inning
Speaker 2: spot if your manager says, we can't put you in
Speaker 2: high livered situation. We saw after body work, body work,
Speaker 2: body work, they quit put Montero in those situations. But
Speaker 2: it happened. There wasn't three innings worth. Hell, I gave
Speaker 2: him three years worth of it. So and I'm not listening.
Speaker 2: I'm not an apologist for Scott at all. My point
Speaker 2: is is that I can't eleven games into the season
Speaker 2: judge anybody's performance over the long hault. Now, if it continues,
Speaker 2: then you're gonna have to say, listen, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Is it mechanical? You got to start to look into it.
Speaker 2: But I'm not willing to bury a guy's belief in
Speaker 2: himself for the team's belief in him three and a
Speaker 2: third innings into his twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 8: Fair enough, Phadrian wants to weigh in will get you
Speaker 8: into the fold. But also to a position player that
Speaker 8: I'm kind of really perplexed by how he's being treated
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Speaker 8: Ninety a late inning at triple to give the Astros
Speaker 8: a one nothing lead there in the top of the seventh,
Speaker 8: but comes through their huge spots against one of the
Speaker 8: Mariner's high leverage guys able to give the ash a
Speaker 8: chance to be able to win the game, which eventually
Speaker 8: they did. But still it really was something later in
Speaker 8: the game that I was like, wait a minute, what
Speaker 8: are we doing here? The guy was your offense so
Speaker 8: far to this point, and it was either the tenth
Speaker 8: or the ninth inning is when his spot was up
Speaker 8: in the order and Joe Spot had decided to go
Speaker 8: with Victor Carrottini ended up working out because Karattini, oddly enough,
Speaker 8: was the guy that ended up being the game winning
Speaker 8: run with his RBI single. But at the time when
Speaker 8: it happened, Sean I was like, you're wanting this young
Speaker 8: guy to learn. You're wanting this young guy to fail
Speaker 8: and succeed in different spots, and that's a spot right
Speaker 8: there where you say, nah, moment's too big for you.
Speaker 8: I can't have you out there right now. I just
Speaker 8: again it goes back to we're gonna play him every day.
Speaker 8: He's gonna be up here he's gonna play, doesn't play
Speaker 8: the last couple of games.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 8: Working on some stuff. Sure, fine, But I mean to
Speaker 8: the point you brought up when we were talking about
Speaker 8: the pitching, don't you have to let these guys fail, Like,
Speaker 8: don't you have to let let them go through those
Speaker 8: situations to know, Hey, these happened in this league too.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're talking about Cam Smith, yeah, there's I
Speaker 2: He's going to play every day, one hundred and fifty games.
Speaker 2: He's here for a reason. He's getting for at bats
Speaker 2: a day, and he's going to play through the tough
Speaker 2: times because getting hit in the mouth is the best
Speaker 2: growth in the world. Now you're telling me this about
Speaker 2: about Cam Smith, why aren't you telling me this about
Speaker 2: Taylor Scott. You just said you want to let him
Speaker 2: grow and go through punches in the face and put
Speaker 2: him in pressure situations, high leverage at bats, and now
Speaker 2: eleven games in three innings in you're ready to move
Speaker 2: Taylor Scott out of the seventh inning stretch, says seventh
Speaker 2: inning role. So why because I found that what applied
Speaker 2: to book, Because Scott's been in the league a little longer.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of it.
Speaker 8: But I mean, I think it's also that Scott is
Speaker 8: a guy that I feel like you probably got better
Speaker 8: production than what really is his.
Speaker 2: So you think he overachieved, Yes, yes, okay, I do.
Speaker 1: I do so.
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, why would you have him
Speaker 2: in that role in the first place? If you think
Speaker 2: it's over achieving it and and eventually that's the enership
Speaker 2: is going to sail because because he earn those innings,
Speaker 2: all right, So but but he but three innings in,
Speaker 2: He's he's played his way out of it.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying completely played his way out of it,
Speaker 8: but I'm also saying that there are other guys that
Speaker 8: have been put in the positions and have come through
Speaker 8: in those spots. I mean, Stephen Okre is a guy
Speaker 8: for example, you just have Monday Night happen, And I
Speaker 8: get it.
Speaker 2: There's right here here a while. You got a heart
Speaker 2: on for for for Steven Oker, right because when the
Speaker 2: guy comes out there, what does he do? He strikes performs.
Speaker 2: But if he were to struggle for three games or
Speaker 2: three innings, you want to move him on. I mean,
Speaker 2: I get your point. I know you're getting at here,
Speaker 2: don't Yeah, don't you think it's some more knee jerk
Speaker 2: right now than oh, this is who the guy is.
Speaker 8: I just know that this is a time of the
Speaker 8: year when, as Joe Aspot has said, we don't want
Speaker 8: to have this start that we had last year. And
Speaker 8: I feel like if you're going with.
Speaker 2: Somebody that you know they five and six eleven games
Speaker 2: in right much better than they were last year. Sure,
Speaker 2: So I mean that's nice.
Speaker 8: And you're also getting much better pitching than you had
Speaker 8: last year, either through injury or necessity whatever it was
Speaker 8: that you had to completely just gas those guys year.
Speaker 2: It took the best thing they had last year.
Speaker 8: It was the best thing they had last year, and
Speaker 8: they won the West because the pitching probably overperformed, so
Speaker 8: probably it did.
Speaker 2: So to get to your point, absolutely, but guys, when
Speaker 2: other guys are hurt, that's the job of why guys
Speaker 2: get paid and get a paycheck every two weeks. Then
Speaker 2: when people get hurt, and that's the job of a department,
Speaker 2: a scouting department, and a talent evaluators and of Dana
Speaker 2: Brown and Joe spot A two in the minor leagues.
Speaker 2: Two make sure that you are developing them. But when
Speaker 2: they're presented with an opportunity as a backup. You're looking
Speaker 2: for production, and you got it from a pitching staff
Speaker 2: that was banged up an injury after injury and came
Speaker 2: in like Scott did last year and do his thing
Speaker 2: like other guys have done two years when JP Frantz
Speaker 2: did his thing. Look at Renel Bloe last year. Guys
Speaker 2: that you didn't expect to do what they did at
Speaker 2: some point during the season actually loaded him on their
Speaker 2: back and got him through some difficult times. And so
Speaker 2: if we're talking about guys who've earned it, the body
Speaker 2: of work from Scott last year has earned more than
Speaker 2: three innings of our belief. Now, if it starts to
Speaker 2: go haywire, you don't want I'm not sitting there willing
Speaker 2: to sit on a guy's look for a long time
Speaker 2: and say failure after failure after failure. I don't think
Speaker 2: we're there yet. But getting back to your original conversation
Speaker 2: about Cam Smith, if he's here, I want him to
Speaker 2: play every day. I don't need him to play every
Speaker 2: third day. I actually, but I'm not Dane Brown and
Speaker 2: I'm not Joe Spata who's making the decisions. And if
Speaker 2: you feel it's he's in over his head, which I
Speaker 2: don't think he is, but they're smarter than I am.
Speaker 2: Then you got to get him every day at bats.
Speaker 2: But if you think he's mature enough to handle and
Speaker 2: good to continue to progress by playing every second or
Speaker 2: third day, then you do it. My belief would he'll
Speaker 2: eventually impress daily if you let him get more at
Speaker 2: bats early. That's just my I think you got to
Speaker 2: see pitches from live major league pitchers, the ones that
Speaker 2: can dominate you. That's how I feel. But I'm not
Speaker 2: making these decisions until I guess maybe they see three
Speaker 2: or four games. But you got to put him in
Speaker 2: there and let him fail or let him succeed before
Speaker 2: we know what we got, and I think we know
Speaker 2: there's potential. But you want the other P word, which
Speaker 2: is production. The question is can you get the production
Speaker 2: you want playing him every other or every third day. No,
Speaker 2: you can't, and I don't think you can. But then again,
Speaker 2: they've done a lot. One thing Joe Spotom wanted this year,
Speaker 2: it told me straight to our face, is not to
Speaker 2: have too many lineup changes. They had what one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty four games or something last year with different
Speaker 2: lineups out of a buck sixty two. That's that's quite
Speaker 2: frankly ridiculous. You want to get to the point when
Speaker 2: you come that it's that it's that the norm is
Speaker 2: in a different lineup that the norm is. You don't
Speaker 2: have to look at the lineup card. And I would
Speaker 2: love if Cam Smith didn't have to look at the
Speaker 2: lineup card. And if it's not going to be that way,
Speaker 2: then have him go, Rake and triple A bring him back.
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer that he's on the roster and
Speaker 2: earned it. But you got to keep earning it and
Speaker 2: the only way to do that is keep playing him.
Speaker 2: But that's a decision for people that are above our
Speaker 2: pay grade when it comes to baseball managing and making
Speaker 2: those personnel decisions.
Speaker 8: Now, Joe Spot says he will be in the lineup today.
Speaker 8: I mean, I believe it was said that they gave
Speaker 8: him the last couple of days off just to work
Speaker 8: on some stuff, pregame all of those other things. But
Speaker 8: makes a nice play out and right field last night.
Speaker 8: Comes through in a huge spot at the plate, I mean,
Speaker 8: consistent at bats. I mean, that's that's more than anything.
Speaker 5: Is that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there are going to be strikeouts, There is going
Speaker 8: to be A goes back to the dugout and says, yeah,
Speaker 8: I had no chance hitting that.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the big leagues, kid, That's how this is.
Speaker 2: You want me to point to the guys on the
Speaker 2: field who have been through that. Plenty shortstop has been
Speaker 2: through that, and he's been able to work his way
Speaker 2: through it, and he didn't come nearly as highly acclaimed
Speaker 2: as Cam Smith has. And Payne has been able to
Speaker 2: work his way through being you know how he's struggling
Speaker 2: this year, but the plate, discipline, the rest, we'll let
Speaker 2: him work through it. And he played every day. He
Speaker 2: played every frigging day, and by the end of the
Speaker 2: year is rookie year. Guess what he was an ALCS
Speaker 2: and the World Series Most Valuable Player, And you got
Speaker 2: a guy who comes even more highly regarded than then
Speaker 2: the prospects we've seen come up here in a minute,
Speaker 2: and Cam Smith is that guy. I just to me,
Speaker 2: unless at the expense of everybody suffering and he's an
Speaker 2: out all the time, I don't think we're there by
Speaker 2: any stretch yet. I would personally play him every day
Speaker 2: until he either played his way into where everybody's like
Speaker 2: that's the man or needed to go down and learn
Speaker 2: a few things, and that's not the end of the world.
Speaker 2: I think he's here to stay, especially if you give
Speaker 2: him more at bats. That's just me and my opinion,
Speaker 2: but that's exactly why I'm not making on the top
Speaker 2: dugout step the decisions. I'd like to see him in
Speaker 2: the lineup getting four bats all the time. I need
Speaker 2: five hundred bats from him, and then we can start
Speaker 2: to say what kind of player is he? I think
Speaker 2: we know well, we believe, I think, and that's usually
Speaker 2: a good steal caitalent he is. That's that's without core,
Speaker 2: that's that's there can be no question about it. But
Speaker 2: talent and production or two differ things. I think he's
Speaker 2: got an energy that adds to these guys as well.
Speaker 8: We can ask Dana Brown about all of those things,
Speaker 8: because that's coming up right here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 2: up and you know, forty game increments, fifty game increments,
Speaker 2: however we want to do that. But eleven games in
Speaker 2: just kind of it back, even if it's just a fan,
Speaker 2: but you're you're immersed into this thing overall evaluation. Eleven
Speaker 2: games in about your team right now?
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, I think that you know, the team is
Speaker 12: holding on strong. You know, we've had a couple, you know,
Speaker 12: times where we didn't get that good of a start.
Speaker 12: Bullpen's been pretty good, the bats still hasn't gotten on
Speaker 12: all cylinders yet, you know, and we've been playing pretty
Speaker 12: good defense. So look, overall, you know we're right there.
Speaker 12: Just one game under five hundred eleven games in two
Speaker 12: and a half out and you know, good things are coming.
Speaker 12: So we feel really good about this club.
Speaker 2: Hey, Dana, we've talked about defining roles and then obviously
Speaker 2: the the p word of production from those guys that
Speaker 2: you've defined rules for. You mentioned the bullpen has been
Speaker 2: pretty good. When do you know during a season is
Speaker 2: it a field thing? Is it looking at the numbers
Speaker 2: alone analytics part do you say this is the guy
Speaker 2: who's long release? These the three guys who take care
Speaker 2: of this is our seven? Eight to nine? We know
Speaker 2: who eight nine is, But when do you know that
Speaker 2: seven solidified? Is it a game to game thing or
Speaker 2: is it a that's our guy? And how long does
Speaker 2: it take before that trust in that in the bullpen
Speaker 2: and there's certain roles to find, how long does it
Speaker 2: take before it hits Yeah, So you look at.
Speaker 12: You look throughout the entire industry. You know, teams are
Speaker 12: always value clubs are always evaluating at players. And when
Speaker 12: you look at our pen, you know you're finding out
Speaker 12: guys are developing, you know, like Gusta's really stepped it
Speaker 12: up for you know, King has been really good. Oakurt's
Speaker 12: been really good, and so you continue to let these
Speaker 12: guys compete and you find spots for them where they
Speaker 12: can have some success, whether you're matching lefty, lefty, righty righty.
Speaker 12: You know, that's that's what you continue to do. As
Speaker 12: you mentioned, the two two back end guys are pillars
Speaker 12: back there, and as we continue to go through this,
Speaker 12: we're we're seeing guys developed right before our eyes. And
Speaker 12: so look, we feel like we've got a good group.
Speaker 12: The pen has been pretty much locked down. And look,
Speaker 12: when we get on all cylinders with the bat and
Speaker 12: the rotation, I think that's when we're going to run off,
Speaker 12: you know, seven in a row, ten in a row,
Speaker 12: that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Data Brown Astro's GM for his weekly nine thirty visit
Speaker 2: here on Wednesday, joins us here on the Seawan Salisbury
Speaker 2: showing Sports Talk seven to ninety uh. Speaking of Taylor
Speaker 2: Scott specifically, was really good for you guys last year,
Speaker 2: did some great things at a time when you needed him,
Speaker 2: kind of like we've mentioned Ronel Blanco in the starting
Speaker 2: rotation doing stuff that like man was really good for
Speaker 2: us well, eleven games in a little over three innings
Speaker 2: and has not had his best stuff Dana, how istant
Speaker 2: how important is it for you and Joe and the
Speaker 2: team to trust what you see eleven games into a
Speaker 2: season that he is going to turn it around, not
Speaker 2: only for your team but for his psyche. How important
Speaker 2: is it to trust early and let him pitch in
Speaker 2: high leverage situations, to pitch through the trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Look, so when you talk about a guy like Scott,
Speaker 12: you know, he's got really good stuff. You know, he's competitive,
Speaker 12: he gave you a good year last year. And sometimes
Speaker 12: guys lose confidence, but you know, you you stick with
Speaker 12: them and you try to put him in spots where
Speaker 12: they could succeed. And so I think we'll continue to
Speaker 12: build him up and build his confidence. And you know,
Speaker 12: the stuff still looks pretty good from a scouting eye,
Speaker 12: you know, and from data wise, he still looks pretty good.
Speaker 12: You know. It's just you got to make pitch certain
Speaker 12: pitches at certain times and you have to trust the stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 12: Uh, Pitchers go through this all the time, you know,
Speaker 12: where they lose lose some confidence and then you know
Speaker 12: they just have to restore it a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 12: But make no mistake, we think he's going to be
Speaker 12: one of our you know, pillars down down the stretch
Speaker 12: in the middle of our.
Speaker 2: Bullpit to you, has he lost confidence? Danny Uran. We
Speaker 2: talk about you being around hanging when you feel like
Speaker 2: a guy's done that, you kind of go around, rub
Speaker 2: shoulders with him and tell him to stick with it.
Speaker 2: We've had this conversation about other players. Where is he
Speaker 2: when you look into his eye and when you when
Speaker 2: you see him. Where's his confidence level right now?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I just think it's the confidence and trusting your stuff,
Speaker 12: not so much the mental confidence. Just trust your stuff,
Speaker 12: remember that your stuff can play at the major league level.
Speaker 12: Don't try to nibble, you know, don't try to pitch
Speaker 12: on the edges all the time. You know, oftentimes you
Speaker 12: got a challenge the hitter. You got to get in
Speaker 12: the zone early, and you have to avoid those walks
Speaker 12: and avoid falling behind. And you fall behind. Look, this
Speaker 12: is the big leagues. If you fall behind, these major
Speaker 12: league hitters will make you pay. And so I think
Speaker 12: it's more, Hey, trust your stuff, you know, regain your
Speaker 12: confidence in your stuff, and remember that your stuff is
Speaker 12: the same. Just go in his zone and you're going
Speaker 12: to be fine. And I think he's starting to understand that.
Speaker 12: And you know, look, he's seeing some of his you know,
Speaker 12: other teammates that are really having some success right now,
Speaker 12: and he could help build off that.
Speaker 2: Dany, you've been one of baseball's before you came here
Speaker 2: to land in here, one of the you know, cut
Speaker 2: your teeth but being a great talent evaluator and seeing
Speaker 2: it and now's a GM role doing all the things
Speaker 2: you have to do there plus seeing talent. So let's
Speaker 2: get to Yan Das. You told us on this show
Speaker 2: that he was the future at catcher when Maldy was
Speaker 2: here and you were spot on, which allowed you guys
Speaker 2: to move Corey Lee. All right, so here we are
Speaker 2: now in a wonderful year last year, a guy that's
Speaker 2: reeling a little bit. Take yourself out of the GM role.
Speaker 2: You and I are sitting in the ballpark and we've
Speaker 2: watched eleven games. What's your swing evaluation for YANR. Das
Speaker 2: right now, not counting last year, what you're seeing eleven
Speaker 2: games in this year?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you put your arms around them and
Speaker 12: you sit and talk to them. You pull them to
Speaker 12: the side and you say, look, you know you can
Speaker 12: hit at the big league level. We already know that.
Speaker 12: What you have to do is just get a good pitch,
Speaker 12: be patient, don't try to do too much. Oftentimes the
Speaker 12: players will try to do too much and they'll come
Speaker 12: out of themselves and they'll come out of their swing,
Speaker 12: and you know, and I think it's one of those
Speaker 12: cases where he's trying to do too much. And I think,
Speaker 12: right now, if we could just get him to look,
Speaker 12: be disciplined, don't chase, make the picture, come into the
Speaker 12: strike zone, don't try to do too much. I think
Speaker 12: that's the speech we would give him because he's trying
Speaker 12: to do too much. Look, the kid it to ninety
Speaker 12: nine last year with a bunch of home runs, and
Speaker 12: he knows he's got a good ops and all those
Speaker 12: good things when you talk about the numbers. But you know,
Speaker 12: sometimes it's as simple as simplifying it and saying, look,
Speaker 12: look for a strike and do damage. Lay off the
Speaker 12: off speed, lay off the stuff that's out of the zone,
Speaker 12: don't get the picture to get you to expand his zone.
Speaker 12: And I think that's that's where our speech is right
Speaker 12: now for him. And that's kind of like how I
Speaker 12: see it. I think he's going to heat up, no
Speaker 12: doubt about it. This guy's way too talented of a hitter,
Speaker 12: and so you know, frustration grows when guys start off
Speaker 12: slow and they struggle, but you just have to keep
Speaker 12: him mentally strong.
Speaker 2: Dana, what kind of guy numbers wise, Like, let's just
Speaker 2: play pay it forward a decade from now? What kind
Speaker 2: of consistent numbers guys at the plate average RBI?
Speaker 1: Who is he?
Speaker 2: Home runs? What kind of guy? When you said, here's
Speaker 2: the numbers I expect from Yiner, what do they look like?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I expect Jiner to you know, hit
Speaker 12: somewhere near two eighty to three hundred, you know, twenty
Speaker 12: plus home runs with an over an eight hundred ops
Speaker 12: at the catcher spot. Right, He's done that and people
Speaker 12: will doing that. Did it in twenty three, did it
Speaker 12: in twenty four, and we feel like he'll do it
Speaker 12: in twenty five. You know, it's not you know, those
Speaker 12: are attainable numbers, and he's already you know, shown that
Speaker 12: he could do that, and so you know, that's pretty
Speaker 12: much who he is. You know, he's a guy that
Speaker 12: can hit, you know, somewhere in that sixth sixth slot
Speaker 12: and you know, do some damage. And so we know
Speaker 12: that it will come. You know, oftentimes as I mentioned before,
Speaker 12: the hitters are a little bit of head of the
Speaker 12: pitchers are a little bit ahead of the hitters. And
Speaker 12: so you know, guys are still getting at timing right,
Speaker 12: They're still locking in on the zone, and so I
Speaker 12: would expect good things coming from yer.
Speaker 5: Danny.
Speaker 2: You've watched young talent flourish Ronald Acuna. You've seen it
Speaker 2: happen here as well, guys, Jiner being one of them
Speaker 2: when he got the job full time. So let's talk
Speaker 2: cam Smith and just from you know, we get questions
Speaker 2: on this show and I always break one to you
Speaker 2: about Okay, help us with this because you're more expert
Speaker 2: than we are. Can Cam Smith be? And I know
Speaker 2: that Joe puts the lineup and you've always deferred to
Speaker 2: that saying Joe makes the lineup decisions. But from your
Speaker 2: evaluation standpoint, can a guy get better on the major
Speaker 2: league level at his age playing once every three days
Speaker 2: or once every other day? Should do we need five
Speaker 2: hundred at bats as a rookie for us to see
Speaker 2: who Cam Smith is.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And the answer the first question, guys do get
Speaker 12: better at the major league level. It happens every year
Speaker 12: every time guys develop, you know, they get up there
Speaker 12: when they're young. I think Cam Smith's gonna be all right.
Speaker 12: He's still controlling the zone. You know, pictures that they've
Speaker 12: been pitching him pretty tough. I think last last night's
Speaker 12: triple was a, you know, a big stepping stone for
Speaker 12: him because he was going through a down period. I mean,
Speaker 12: sometimes we have to realize these guys, they struggle when
Speaker 12: they come up to the big leagues. You know, I
Speaker 12: remember when Bregman first came up, he struggled a little bit.
Speaker 12: Tucker first came up, he struggled a little bit. They
Speaker 12: were right in the same area.
Speaker 10: Uh you know.
Speaker 12: In fact, I think Bregman was like one for twenty
Speaker 12: eight or something like that. I mean, yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 12: been to young players and you know, make no mistake,
Speaker 12: this guy competed at a high level in college. He
Speaker 12: got some minor n get back. He came into camp.
Speaker 12: You know, he made this team because he played hard
Speaker 12: and played well. He's really developing in right field, and uh,
Speaker 12: you know, getting him in there with the action of
Speaker 12: his look. Understand that you have the talent to play
Speaker 12: at the major league level. We've seen a lot of
Speaker 12: young players come up and do well and you know,
Speaker 12: we think that this guy can really turn the corner.
Speaker 12: And at some point, you know, you guys will see that,
Speaker 12: oh wow, he's back. So he's getting there and he's
Speaker 12: buying in, you know, to what he needs to buy
Speaker 12: into to get to hit at the big league level.
Speaker 12: But make no mistake, we feel really good about cam
Speaker 12: Smith in his future here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him. I think his energy's off the charts,
Speaker 2: and he adds something that that did h And I
Speaker 2: think there's a mental toughness from my vantage point, but
Speaker 2: you know better than I. Okay, eleven games in, has
Speaker 2: there been somebody that say, wow, this is a pleasant
Speaker 2: surprise for us already that you're saying, damn, we're getting
Speaker 2: more out of him than I actually even expected. Who
Speaker 2: is that body?
Speaker 12: Well, look, we Rogers got off to a pretty good start.
Speaker 12: You know he uh, you know, he took a o
Speaker 12: for last night, but you know he's he's been swinging
Speaker 12: the back pretty well. And and so with us needing
Speaker 12: some you know, some offense at second base by one
Speaker 12: once we put two vay and left, you know, we've
Speaker 12: I really feel like this guy could turn the corner
Speaker 12: and get back to you know what he was you know,
Speaker 12: a few years ago, you know, when he hit over
Speaker 12: to eighty one a gold glove, he was a you know,
Speaker 12: he was within the top five picks in the draft.
Speaker 12: I think it was like third in the country. So
Speaker 12: this is a talented player that kind of lost his
Speaker 12: way a little bit. And he's you know, he's headed
Speaker 12: in the right direction. And you know, he got off
Speaker 12: to a pretty good start with us. As I mentioned,
Speaker 12: he went oh for last night. But this guy's got
Speaker 12: a chance to turn the corner and be a nice
Speaker 12: piece for us, you know at the second base position.
Speaker 2: Danny, you and I talked last year about you know,
Speaker 2: small ball can be a really good thing when you're
Speaker 2: not driving it and getting slugging everybody. Now that's what
Speaker 2: we're looking for. But back to back nights, even though
Speaker 2: one got you got beat by a bunt, good moving
Speaker 2: him over, and then you executed a bunt, and then
Speaker 2: last night the same way. I mean, well, I know
Speaker 2: we're not getting caught up in the butt thing. Small
Speaker 2: ball matters and moving runners over. That had to be
Speaker 2: a pleasant for you to see that you can win
Speaker 2: that way as well.
Speaker 12: Yeah, small ball was. I thought it was a great
Speaker 12: win last night. It was a team win. We pretty
Speaker 12: much had to use our entire bench. That's what it's
Speaker 12: all about. You know, you go deep into these games,
Speaker 12: especially when you go in the extra innings, you know
Speaker 12: somebody's gonna have to come out and be the hero.
Speaker 12: And last night, you know, Taratini came up with a
Speaker 12: big hit. You know, we got Cam the had to
Speaker 12: triple those two guys provided the RBIs. It was a
Speaker 12: total team effort. The bullpen was really good. They came
Speaker 12: in and shut the door, and so look that's a
Speaker 12: big team win, a big confidence builder. You know, we
Speaker 12: got a good one to night this afternoon and hopefully,
Speaker 12: you know, we'll get to five hundred today and go
Speaker 12: home at five hundred and get a chance to come
Speaker 12: in there and win some games at Dyking Park.
Speaker 2: Should there be a soul in Houston worried about Jordon's
Speaker 2: power or is that gonna just come in bunches like
Speaker 2: we usually expect to see it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, we go home runs coming bunches all the time.
Speaker 12: I wouldn't worry about Jordon's power. Look, if you're worried
Speaker 12: about your and out of tower, I thank you. Probably
Speaker 12: this guy got as much power as anybody in this game.
Speaker 12: I mean, this guy can power light power power. I mean,
Speaker 12: this guy hits balls really far. I'm not worried about
Speaker 12: his power. I think he's he's gonna be fine. Uh.
Speaker 12: You know, he got off to somewhat of a slow start,
Speaker 12: got a big home run the other day, you know,
Speaker 12: and you know they've been pitching him tough. I've been
Speaker 12: running from him and he's taking his walks. You know,
Speaker 12: It's just it just goes to show. Like, Look, it's
Speaker 12: a long season for a reason. You know, you guys
Speaker 12: have heard me say multiple times on the show. It's
Speaker 12: a it's a marathime, not a sprint, you know. And
Speaker 12: this is not for the faint at heart. You know,
Speaker 12: you have to continue to grind, continue to do things right,
Speaker 12: continue to do things right that helps you win ball games.
Speaker 12: And you know, we'll get through the season on top.
Speaker 12: And I have full confidence in this team, our coaching staff,
Speaker 12: and I know our fans are back in us. So look,
Speaker 12: we're ready to go. It's just that we just got
Speaker 12: to get hot right now. We're right there and there
Speaker 12: five hundred, and as I always say, you get hot,
Speaker 12: you're at five hundred. You get hot, you run off
Speaker 12: five in a row, seven in a row. Before you
Speaker 12: know you're five games over, you're seven games over and
Speaker 12: good things are happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no time, we have to keep grinding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, twelve and twenty four start this year, which
Speaker 2: is a good thing. Real quick data update on Spencer aarraghetti.
Speaker 12: Yeah, freak accident. You know, he's being evaluated. You know,
Speaker 12: it looks like you know, it's gonna be some time,
Speaker 12: and we're gonna still need some time to get the
Speaker 12: full evaluation, but at least it's gonna be you know,
Speaker 12: I would say, you know, six weeks or so. You know,
Speaker 12: hopefully some guys feel a lot faster and you know
Speaker 12: they can come back a little sooner. But look, ultimately,
Speaker 12: it's one of those freak accidents. And man, it really
Speaker 12: it really hurts you lose the starter. Yeah, it really
Speaker 12: really hurts.
Speaker 2: How does that rotation look now, though? How do you
Speaker 2: move it around real quick? I don't want to keep
Speaker 2: you much longer. How do you move it around with
Speaker 2: Spencer out?
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a chance that we're gonna put Gusto in
Speaker 12: there to fill that spot. You know, he's been a
Speaker 12: starter for us. We we broke camp with him in
Speaker 12: the pin. But we knew at some point we're gonna
Speaker 12: have to build him back up because we had some
Speaker 12: of our bullpen guys that were down, like Fort and Whitley,
Speaker 12: and so we just were probably gonna you know, he
Speaker 12: would have been the first guy coming up from Triple A,
Speaker 12: so it probably slide Gusto into into that start, you know,
Speaker 12: and then you know, we we'll shape up with Valdez Brown.
Speaker 12: You know, Gusto Blanco west Netski. West Netski's throwing the
Speaker 12: ball very well. So he's been that pleasant you know
Speaker 12: surprise that you talked about if you're talking about a
Speaker 12: guy is from the pitching standpoint that really had stepped it,
Speaker 12: or he's been really good up to ninety seven, you know,
Speaker 12: which is really really good. So it looks great with
Speaker 12: the scouting guy too. So look, we were still in
Speaker 12: pretty good shape, you know. Uh, you know, we don't
Speaker 12: want anything else to happen. Uh, but we still we
Speaker 12: feel like we're there is still pretty good shape. And look,
Speaker 12: sometimes these guys will get hurt, they come back, they'll
Speaker 12: be a shot in the arm later and they'll help
Speaker 12: you ride it out all way to the end. So uh,
Speaker 12: well we'll make the adjustment and we'll be fine in
Speaker 12: a rotation.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Go still gives you a little bandwidth and versatility, which
Speaker 2: is nice. Dana, great stuff, man. We'll see when you
Speaker 2: get back home, and we look forward to next week's conversation.
Speaker 2: Thanks you, Bud.
Speaker 12: Absolutely always good talking to you. Hanging air as so fans,
Speaker 12: We're coming.
Speaker 1: There, you go.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that's dand Brown. We'll come back finish up next.
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