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I have lost jobs before and 12 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:49,719 it stinks, you know, especially when you don't see it coming. 13 00:00:50,119 --> 00:00:53,200 I don't know if Colbert Colbert saw it coming or not. 14 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:58,039 He claimed the other day when he made the announcement 15 00:00:58,079 --> 00:00:59,880 in front of his studio audience, that he had just 16 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:04,640 been informed that they would be a CBS would be 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,920 canceling the show, the entire show next year, which is 18 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:13,400 what a fascist would do, right. That's how you know 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,840 free speech is being fascist fascistically suppressed. So you'd give 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:26,000 him ten more months on the air. Now, this is 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,640 a this is a problem that late night TV is 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,719 having as a I guess is I don't want to 23 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:35,159 say an industry, but yeah, I mean kind of as 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,239 a as a niche product. Right, That's how I viewed 25 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:43,000 the story, and I suspect you're going to start seeing 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,000 the other franchises fall two. Although you know, just the 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:54,040 other day we were talking about how Jamie Harrison, the 28 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:58,079 former DNC chairman, how he was being held up as 29 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,920 like the next Joe Rogan because he launched to podcast 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,680 and Democrats think he's going to be their new Joe Rogan, which, 31 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:06,599 by the way, you guys had Joe Rogan, but then 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,000 you like pushed him out of your party over the 33 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:13,000 COVID shots and the horse paste. He's eating horse paste 34 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:18,759 and all that. So now maybe Stephen Colb I see, 35 00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:21,599 I don't like calling him Colbert because that's not I 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,639 don't think that's how you pronounce his last name. He 37 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:29,000 like his whole stick was a mockery of Bill O'Reilly, right, 38 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:35,039 he was playing a blow hard conservative host when he 39 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,520 did the Colbert Report. I think it's Colbert, right. But anyway, 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,639 and it turns out being a blow hard leftist on 41 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:49,039 late night did not sell very well. It doesn't detract 42 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,240 the eyeballs. And that's really the problem here. Colbert was 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,280 drawing a rating share of two two point zero. That 44 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,520 means of all the people that are watching television at 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,560 any given moment, he's drawing two percent of all the 46 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:12,000 eyeballs for that time slot. Okay, And as it was 47 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,840 pointed out by observers, shall we say he was somewhere 48 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,840 in the neighborhood of about two hundred thousand in the 49 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:24,560 eighteen to forty nine year old demographic. And that's the 50 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:28,319 one that all the ad agencies look to buy because 51 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:30,199 for some reason they think twenty year olds have a 52 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,000 lot of disposable income. I don't understand it. This is 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,560 what Madison Avenue still prizes. They want these these young, 54 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,960 the young audience for some reason, even though they don't 55 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,479 really have any money. They're yeah, and they're not watching 56 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,280 late night TV, as is evidenced in his two hundred 57 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:55,080 thousand eyeballs in the in that demographic that's called the 58 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:59,719 key demo eighteen to forty nine. And by comparison, you're 59 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:05,120 mid level YouTubers are getting somewhere like triple that number, right, 60 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:11,319 So that's those are the economic challenges, the ratings challenges 61 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,919 that that time slot has it starts at eleven thirty 62 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,959 at night. I don't watch TV. Look full disclosure here, 63 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,720 I've never been one that watched the late night shows. 64 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,560 I remember it was something to get the when I 65 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,240 would come in to work here at WBT, when I 66 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,639 was in the newsroom back there, and we were at 67 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:34,079 the time a CBS affiliate, and we would get Dave 68 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Letterman's top ten list. We would get the audio of 69 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:41,879 his top ten list, and it was funny and that's 70 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:43,600 why we got it. And maybe if there was a 71 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,879 couple of soundbites from the show, but that was about it. 72 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,560 And do you know why they started. I came across 73 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,399 this little nugget over the last couple of days while 74 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,680 reading a lot of the stories about, you know, the 75 00:04:54,759 --> 00:05:00,160 late night programming challenges. Do you know why this slot 76 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,879 was developed? The idea was that if you could have 77 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:10,439 people tune in to watch the network, you know, ABC 78 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,079 or NBC or CBS. If they would tune in and 79 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,439 watch that show at eleven thirty at night, chances are 80 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,720 they're falling asleep while they're watching it, which means what 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,079 they turned you know, they wake up at some point, 82 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,040 turn the television off, and then what they wake up 83 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:31,240 the next morning, turn the TV on, and the channel 84 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,399 is still on the same channel, the dials still set 85 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:35,920 to because that was back in the day where you 86 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:38,240 actually had to like turn the knob, you had to 87 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,319 actually get up out of a seat or your bed. 88 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,040 You'd have to walk over to the television and you 89 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:47,079 would have to turn a dial to pick up one 90 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,800 of the three stations, Okay, yes, or PBS, but like 91 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 that was those were your options, right, And so the 92 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:58,759 idea was, if you set it to CBS and you're 93 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:02,560 watching that late night and then you fall asleep, when 94 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,800 you wake up the next day, it's still on CBS, 95 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,040 and now you're more likely to just keep watching the 96 00:06:07,079 --> 00:06:10,480 morning show. That's the idea. This gets into like lead 97 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,560 in effects, right where when you had Oprah Winfrey on 98 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,920 on ABC and she was the ratings powerhouse that she was, 99 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,120 the newscasts that would air right after her show, the 100 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:29,360 local newscasts, they were like number one in all markets. 101 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,160 Because they had this huge lead in, people just would 102 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,959 keep watching. They'd just leave the channel on ABC. So, 103 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,800 this from Brian Steinberg over at Variety Magazine. TV's ongoing 104 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,040 problems with late night have come for Stephen Colbert, with 105 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,279 CBS announcing Thursday that it plans to end his Late 106 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:54,600 Show after the next TV season, citing a financial decision. 107 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,360 The maneuver, which ends years of original late night programming 108 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:02,439 at CBS that started when the network lured David Letterman 109 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:06,839 from NBC back in nineteen ninety three, comes as the 110 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:13,240 economics of wee hours TV have begun to accelerate, with 111 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:16,600 media companies growing wary of the high price tags involved 112 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 in producing the shows, while the young viewers they try 113 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:26,240 to attract watch more of them via digital video. When 114 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,199 I read the numbers about what it takes to produce 115 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,279 the Late Show or Late Night with Stephen Colbert, the 116 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,279 Late Show, Yeah, sorry, the Late Show, I see, that's 117 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:39,519 what I mean. I don't even know what all of 118 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:42,959 them is. It's Jimmy Kimmel Live, that's his show. Then 119 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,959 there's the Tonight Show, right is that a separate one, 120 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,720 and then there's the Late Show I think anyway, But 121 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:56,199 the numbers, as in the amount of staff employed to 122 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:59,360 put on this show and the amount of money that 123 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:06,680 Colbert was making and the amounted costs, it's staggering. It's 124 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:10,480 absolutely staggering. I mean that's like it. When I read 125 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,079 the numbers, I was like, what are you guys, PBS 126 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:18,079 over here? That's my goodness. CBS put out a statement 127 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,560 saying we consider Stephen Colbert irreplaceable and will retire the 128 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:24,639 Late Show franchise in May of twenty twenty six. We 129 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,120 are proud that Stephen colled CBS home He and the 130 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 broadcast will be remembered in the pantheon of greats that 131 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,679 graced late night television. This is purely a financial decision 132 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,200 against the challenging backdrop in late night. It is not 133 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,200 related in any way to the show's performance. Well I 134 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,720 mean it. It's related to the show's performance if it was, 135 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,559 because if it was making money, if it was performing well, 136 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,120 then you would have kept him on the air. See 137 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,960 that's how that works. When you're bringing in the money, 138 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,720 then you get way more latitude to do stuff. But 139 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:01,320 when you're costing the parent company for fifty million dollars 140 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,919 a year, well, the bosses don't take too kindly to 141 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,039 you attacking their ethics and your accusations that you're paying 142 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,200 Trump a big fat bribe, which is what Democrats want 143 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,639 to make this all about. But here's the thing. Even 144 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,080 if that's why they fired him, which I see no 145 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:26,000 proof that that is why they fired him. The the 146 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,960 economics of it, the financials, tell the whole story. You 147 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 can't lose forty to fifty million dollars every single year 148 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:38,799 on a product like this and see fewer and fewer audience, 149 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,480 like just a shrinking audience and exploding debt. You can't. 150 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,600 It's unsustainable. But even if it were true, you still 151 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,000 you don't get to insult the boss's ethics and probably 152 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,039 keep your job. 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Variety magazine 174 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,159 reports on the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen 175 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Colbert that CBS had already begun winding down its activity 176 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,000 in the late night slots. It's no secret among staffers 177 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,120 and executives associated with Late Night that the business of 178 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,480 the format has been in decline. Young people are the 179 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,000 very consumers jumping first to new streaming behaviors that are 180 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,039 less tied to watching programs at a specific time and date. 181 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:35,399 This is called appointment listening or appointment viewing. And we 182 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,159 don't do it. We just don't do it anymore. Like 183 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:45,080 aside from live sporting events, we don't make appointments to 184 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,960 watch stuff, right, We don't say, oh, I got to 185 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,159 clear my calendar. Every Thursday night, I gotta watch Seinfeld. 186 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,639 You know which people used to do. They would call 187 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,559 it that appointment TV or must see TV, and you 188 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 had to tune in and because if you didn't see 189 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:03,320 it when it happened live, then you had to wait 190 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,679 till the summer when they would do the reruns. So 191 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,039 people aren't making appointments at eleven thirty and twelve o'clock 192 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:14,039 at night anymore to watch this stuff, let alone any 193 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:18,519 kind of programming like this. People watch on demand. Right. 194 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,440 We want to watch what we want when we want 195 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,039 to on our schedule, and then if you're like me, 196 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:27,360 you binge watch an entire season, staying up for like 197 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,600 sixteen straight hours. Right. Hosts like Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel 198 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:38,120 and Colbert continue to generate headlines in digital memes and 199 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,399 still build sizable live audiences that the networks and their 200 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:45,440 distributors and advertisers cove it, but less so and the 201 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,039 ranks of the hosts have narrowed in recent years. So 202 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,960 to have episodes of the shows I wasn't aware of this, 203 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:58,799 Get this. None of the regular hosts hold forth on 204 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:05,000 Fridays anymore. Falance Tonight Show was the last to give 205 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,279 up the fifth night of the week. Some of these 206 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:14,120 guys work like three days and they record an extra 207 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,919 episode for like Thursday or something. But I wasn't even 208 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,759 aware of that. It's like, Colbert is getting paid fifteen 209 00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:25,480 million dollars a year, and well he was. He has 210 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:28,200 like fifteen to twenty million a year and he doesn't 211 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 even work five days a week, which is nuts. I mean, 212 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:37,440 that's like a deal that I negotiated. I do need 213 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:40,720 to find out who his agent is. By the way, 214 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:44,480 while Variety says Colbert will next year wind up a 215 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,320 colorful run, when he took over the Late Show in 216 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,720 twenty fifteen, he had to navigate a new role. He 217 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,240 was no longer the bloviating conservative character he portrayed on 218 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:56,679 Comedy Central. Instead, he became a bloviating left wing character. 219 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,039 Not kidding. They didn't say that, but I did. He 220 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,840 had to instead find ways to be his authentic self, 221 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:05,840 and when we found out who that was, people tuned out. 222 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,159 By the way, when he took over, the audience was 223 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:16,360 four million people, and now it's two million. In seven years, 224 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:23,600 he has seen his audience declined by half. But get this, 225 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,919 Colbert turned a corner in twenty sixteen when he hosted 226 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,559 an election night special on Showtime and he had to 227 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,679 entertain a live New York crowd that stared in disbelief 228 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,080 at results showing that Donald Trump would triumph over Hillary Clinton. Look, 229 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:45,159 I have to tell you, I was not aware that 230 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,039 he did this. That would have been hilarious, because that night, 231 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:55,159 when Hillary lost, it was hilarious. I was anchoring the 232 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 coverage for the station up in Asheville at the time, 233 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,919 and I just remember laughing at one point, just busted 234 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,279 out laughing when the Pennsylvania returns came in because this 235 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,840 guy that nobody thought would win ended up doing so. 236 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,840 And I can only imagine what that must have been 237 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:15,519 like for Colbert in New York City while they're all 238 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:21,159 there to celebrate Hillary's win and she loses. And this 239 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,480 is when he turned a corner. Colbert found his footing 240 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:28,519 that night and decided to lean heavily into pointed humor 241 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:33,039 about current events now beating up on Republicans and Trump, right, 242 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,759 And that's what his whole show was for the last 243 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:40,720 seven eight years. That's all it was. And you can't 244 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,080 just beat up on half of the potential audience and 245 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:49,000 expect to be successful unless you're me. Here's a great idea. 246 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:51,879 How about making an escape to a really special and 247 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,120 secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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Call or text eight two 265 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,480 eight three six seven seventy sixty eight or check out 266 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:59,279 all there is to offer at cabins Offashville dot com 267 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:06,000 and make memory that'll last a lifetime. Johnny Oleksinski, writing 268 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,640 at The New York Post, the grim Reaper is coming 269 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,359 for all of late night TV. Those comedians and neckties 270 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,279 are just ignoring deaths deafening knock. The retro programs, which 271 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,599 began in the nineteen fifties as an experiment to fill time, 272 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:24,720 have far too tiny a viewership to justify their exorbitant 273 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:31,279 cost anymore. The Late show was beating its competition, so 274 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:36,839 that's pretty amazing. This was apparently the highest rated of 275 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,599 the lowly rated shows beginning after the local newscasts. It 276 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,880 had two point four to two million nightly viewers on 277 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,880 average during the first quarter, but just nine percent of 278 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,279 those eyeballs were in the key demo of eighteen to 279 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:52,559 forty nine years old that the advertisers covet. That means 280 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,599 no ad dollars because young people could not care less, 281 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:59,039 and why would they They've got YouTube TikTok to scroll 282 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:01,880 through after dark. The funniest story of the week by 283 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,920 a mile was the astronomer CEO. That's the name of 284 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,759 a company astronomer. He's not an astronomer as I understand it. 285 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:12,759 This guy Andy Byron who got caught on the JumboTron 286 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,240 kiss cam canoodling with his head of HR at a 287 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,880 Coldplay concert, which, by the way, if they had just 288 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,880 acted like a normal couple then nobody would have noticed, 289 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:27,200 nothing would have come of it. But the fact that 290 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,160 they were obviously busted and behaved as if they got busted, 291 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,759 then everybody that turned it into the moment. So anyway, 292 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:43,000 fifteen years ago, Americans would have turned to David Letterman 293 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:46,200 and Conan O'Brien to mock the horny half wits. But 294 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,799 now social media does it faster and funnier than Colbert, 295 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,039 Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel and Seth Meyers Ever could I 296 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:57,799 will say I've said this many times over the years. 297 00:18:57,799 --> 00:18:59,519 It's one of the things that I do love about 298 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:05,359 social media is the creativity and sense of humor that 299 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,359 so many people have. When you know something like that 300 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,960 story occurs and the hot takes that people have. I mean, yes, 301 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:17,839 there's a bunch that are terrible, but there are some 302 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,480 that are outright hilarious, like the one with they've swapped 303 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,000 out instead of this canoodling couple, they've swapped him out 304 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,519 with the cartoon from King of the Hill, John Redcorn 305 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,680 and Dale Dribble's wife. I don't remember her name, because 306 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,480 like that was the running joke on that cartoon spoiler alert, 307 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,160 was that Redcorn was having this long standing affair with 308 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,720 Dale Dribble's wife and Dale was completely oblivious to it 309 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:51,599 the entire time. And so yeah, like people doing memes 310 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,160 and things like that have been very, very funny, and 311 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,079 like the democratization of comedy and reaction to these kinds 312 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,519 of things. It's on social media. You can find it yourself. 313 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,960 So back to the New York Post story. You could 314 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,680 shake up the format all you want, but a fixed 315 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,599 eleven thirty PM show with commercial breaks on a dusty, old, 316 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,200 censored network can't compete with instant razor. Sharp reactions from 317 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,400 billions of people could chats with a list stars keep 318 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,279 the struggling shows afloat no the five minute skim the 319 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,599 surface interview is a thing of the past as well. 320 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,440 Celebrities are way over exposed, and promotional appearances present them 321 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,559 at their fakeused and their leak least likable as well, 322 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,279 which is a great point. I don't ever care about 323 00:20:46,319 --> 00:20:48,480 a guest that's going to be on the one of 324 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,400 these shows. They go on there for five minutes, six 325 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,400 minutes or something. They talk about some story that was 326 00:20:55,519 --> 00:21:01,319 obviously given to the host. Sometimes it's like explo ilicitly said, oh, yeah, 327 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,039 you were talking earlier before the show about this thing. 328 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:07,079 Tell us about that, you know, just some ham handed 329 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,200 lead in to tell this story that the star thought 330 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,839 would show them in a good light, or they thought 331 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:15,599 would be hilarious or whatever. They give them a couple 332 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,400 ideas and the host throws one of them out and 333 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,799 then they tell their story and ah, ha is that hilarious. 334 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:25,920 It's just it's not real. And I've talked about this 335 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,279 too with these long form podcast formats, which is that 336 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:34,319 you sit somebody down for an hour or two hours 337 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,599 or three hours, and you can't keep up whatever facade 338 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:42,880 you have erected. You can't keep that up for the 339 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:46,319 entirety of the two hour conversation. You just can't do it. 340 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,319 Even the most skilled politicians can't do it. You break, 341 00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:52,759 you can't stay in character, you can't tap dance away 342 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:59,839 from every single question over two to three hours. Now, 343 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:05,880 Democrats are not taking any of this very well. Charles C. W. 344 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,319 Cook from The National Review. He points out how at root, 345 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,160 the NPR story and the Colbert cancelation are basically the 346 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,880 same story. Progressives take over a product. They made it 347 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,759 so that people didn't want to pay for it, whether 348 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,759 via advertising, subscriptions, or donations, and now they're upset that 349 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,880 it won't be perpetually bailed out by a third party. 350 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:34,119 I've talked about this too for years, which is the 351 00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:39,400 wolf in sheep's clothing. They progressives or Marxists. They get 352 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,720 into any institution, right, and in order to take it over, 353 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,599 what must they do? They have to kill the institution. 354 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,279 They have to kill the sheep in order to wear 355 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,079 its skin. 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Yeah, 385 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,400 it's just the numbers are not good, Like for example, 386 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,079 John Hassen at The Spectator. He writes for town Hall 387 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,079 as well. He points out that when Colbert took over 388 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,000 for David Letterman in twenty fifteen, the average viewer was 389 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,680 sixty years old. CBS had hoped that bringing Colbert over 390 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:57,319 from Comedy Central, right where he was on The Daily 391 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,200 Show and then had his own show, The Cold their rapport, 392 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,920 They had hoped that he would attract younger viewers. Ten 393 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,279 years later, his average viewer is older. His audience has 394 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:16,240 gotten older. They are now sixty eight years old. And 395 00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:21,240 that's just not sustainable as a business model. It's just 396 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:27,759 not This is from Fox News, but also quotes heavily 397 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:32,319 from a Puck News piece by Matt Beloney, who reported 398 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,079 the Late Night Show has been losing more than forty 399 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,119 million dollars a year for CBS, and it had a 400 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,480 budget of more than one hundred million dollars per season, 401 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,400 contrasting it with network's daytime and primetime programming, which he 402 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,400 noted were still profitable a hundred million a year. Baloney 403 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480 said the sources, that's his name. It's b E. L 404 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,759 l O Ni. But it sounds like baloney. But it's Belloney, okay, 405 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,960 he said the sources he spoke with at CBS and 406 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,799 Skydance Media, which is the company that is set to 407 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,960 buy CBS's parent company, Paramount Global, as part of an 408 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,039 eight billion dollar merger. They insist Colbert's cancelation was based 409 00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:20,319 on economics, not politics, pointing to the decision to give 410 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,880 his show a ten month extension through May of twenty 411 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,960 six instead of pulling the plug immediately. And by the way, 412 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,319 there were quotes from people even anonymously inside CBS that 413 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,039 work on the show, and they've all said the same thing. 414 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,119 This wasn't in any kind of response to Colbert's commentary. 415 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,960 It wasn't political, it wasn't about the content. It was 416 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,279 just economics. But like the left does not believe this. 417 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,799 They're like Trump is killing the show off. They're doing 418 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,160 it in order to get their merger approved. In all 419 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,400 of this, and they've said even anonymously, when you would 420 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,319 think they would be free to say the real reason was. 421 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,000 But they're not saying that to other people with deep 422 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,119 ties to CBS and the Late Show. Suspect otherwise, when 423 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,880 a network decides that a show is too expensive, executives 424 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,839 typically go to the key talent and ask them to 425 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,200 take pay cuts and to fire people and slash costs. 426 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,480 But that didn't happen here though. With Colbert said to 427 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,759 be making between fifteen to twenty million a year, a 428 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:28,519 pay cut would not have solved the problem on its own. No, no, 429 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,400 it would not. Think about it. He's making fifteen to 430 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,319 twenty million. They're losing forty million dollars. What are you 431 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,640 going to do? Cut his pay in half? That still 432 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,359 doesn't get you anywhere close to closing the gap. It 433 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,440 is an unsustainable business model. Beloney asked whether this was 434 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,079 the dam bursting in late night on broadcast television, suggesting 435 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,160 Kimmel at ABC and Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers at 436 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:03,880 NBC could be next. I suspect that is true. All right, 437 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 438 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,319 for listening. I could not do the show without your 439 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,119 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 440 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,960 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 441 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,680 and tell them you heard it here. You can also 442 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,319 become a patron at my Patreon page or go to 443 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,160 dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, 444 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,119 and don't break anything while I'm gone.