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Speaker 1: God Ge Hillaries and God Made Hillaries and God Made

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Speaker 2: Miss Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You

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Can't Be Serious podcast, where we talk about movies from

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the eighties, nineties and beyond. Jason, who are we here

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to talk about today?

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Speaker 3: We are here to talk about mister Clint Eastwood.

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Speaker 2: What kind of stupid name is that?

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Speaker 3: The biggest yellow belly in the West.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we are here to talk about Clint Eastwood, specifically

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mister Philo Beto, which is some kind of kick button

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name as well. I got a question for you, Jason, Yes,

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File Betto's pretty strong, right, Yeah? You think he's strong

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enough to beat Superman? Sure, we'll see in a little bit. Okay, Ah,

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all right, I like it. Okay, good, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So we came in with the song Hey, I gotta

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stop you right there?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hang ony.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was Clint Eastwood's birthday?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

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Speaker 3: On our Facebook page, I put a post of Michael J.

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Fox as Marty McFly in Back to the Future three

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and it said happy birthday Clint Eastwood.

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Speaker 2: I got one of two responses.

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Speaker 3: One of them was, ha, that's funny, that's really Yeah. Clever,

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that's smart, and the other one was that's not Clint Eastwood.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, this is a sad statement on the education

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of humanity right here.

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Speaker 3: If you don't get that joke, you need to go run,

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not walk. Go run and watch Back to the Future

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three again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, skip back to the future two. Go straight to

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Back to the Future three. Yes, yes, Okay. So you

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introed us with You're the reason God made Oklahoma and

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it's the perfect intro song for the story that I

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am about to tell you. I'm about to tell you

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the story of Piggy Barnes.

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Speaker 3: Piggy Barnes.

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Speaker 2: Piggy Barnes, So, Piggy Barnes was a high school athlete,

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part of the nineteen thirty eight undefeated season for his

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high school. After he graduated high school, he went on

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to be a sergeant in World War Two. Then after

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World War Two, he went to college at LSU, where

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he was a football player and a weight lifting champion.

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He went from LSU to join the Philadelphia Eagles, where

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he played guard for them from nineteen forty eight to

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nineteen fifty one. Okay, now, while he was still a

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member of the Philadelphia Eagles team, he was down in

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Louisiana visiting his college friends, and he got involved in

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spying on the nineteen forty nine undefeated Ou team coached

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by mister Bud Wilkinson, himself.

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Speaker 3: College football legend, Buddy Wilkinson.

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Speaker 2: We named the stadium after him, absolutely we did.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the longest current winning streak in college football still holds.

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Speaker 2: By the way sidebar Ou women's softball team currently has

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the longest winning streak for women's softball, and yesterday played

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the first game of the College Women's World Series. They

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got another game tomorrow. I'm hoping by the time this

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episode comes out that you all will know that we

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won yet another women's World Series. Yes, yes, So anyway,

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I digress. The important thing to know is that sports

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is important to Oklahoma. It always has been, right, and

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when you get to a stage where you're involved in

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a bowl, and a big bowl like the Sugar Bowl, yes,

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it's really important that you keep your stuff secret, right.

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You don't want people spying on you. Sure well, While

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Bud Wilkinson is getting ready for the Sugar Bowl in

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nineteen fifty in Biloxi, Mississippi, he gets a phone call

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and he says, you have guys spying on your team. Now,

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many will say that this is the only time in

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his entire seventeen year career as a OU football coach

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that they saw him get mad. Yeah, he got livid.

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Uh huh. So he puts together a detective team and

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they go out. They go there's this garage where they

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can see down into the field in Biloxi, Mississippi, where

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the OU Sooners are playing. Okay, and so this team

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of law enforcement photographers reporters are all converging on this

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point and they find this guy hiding underneath a blanket

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with binoculars and charts and cameras, and he sees them coming.

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He sees them closing in, so he jumps down, goes

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into the garage yelling profanities at them. They're banging on

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the door. He eventually busts out and they managed to

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snap a picture of him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Now this is back in the day when pictures had

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to develop, so it was another day before they developed

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the picture. And when they developed the picture, they saw

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that it was mister Piggy Barnes from the Philadelphia Eagles,

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former LA shoe player who was spying on him and

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Bud Wilkinson was like, come out. Okay. He comes out

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and he's this guy has gone into hiding with another

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LSU player named Albert Manuel, and he's And Bud Wilkinson says,

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show yourselves and declare your innocence, so we're gonna assume

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you're guilty. They never come out right, so your mouth shut. Yeah. Yeah.

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So nineteen fifty Sugar Bowl OU beats LSU thirty five

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to zero. It made no difference at all, right, except

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that he was horribly embarrassed. He ultimately the next year

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leaves the Philadelphia Eagles and goes into acting. Okay, okay,

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Barnes goes into acting because he's a terrible spy and

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he is a He plays parts in gun Smoke and

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Bonanza and Raw Hide, Rowdy Yates, Anybody Yes, Yes, okay,

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and The Dukes of Hazzard, along with a ton of others,

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where at some point he realizes he's good at playing

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a sheriff. Plays the sheriff in at least ten different

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TV shows and movies, including High Planes Drifter. Okay, okay,

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and in nineteen eighty one brings that sheriff role to

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a key role in a movie that is a knockoff

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of Smoky in the Bandit. It's a movie called Smoky

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Bites the Dust came out in nineteen eighty one. Yes,

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and it is an absolute dismal failure. But it's not

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the first Smoky in the Bandit that he is knocked off. Okay,

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the first one is the movie we're here to talk

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about today, Every Which Way but Loose, where Walter Lee

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Piggy Barnes plays the character that is much talked about.

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But little scene mister Tank Murdoch, as you said.

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Speaker 1: You're just a you got an Eastwood smile and Robert

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red food Ham.

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Speaker 3: Oh no way, Tank Murdoch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. That is awesome. So Tank Murdoch,

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the championship fight at the end of Every Which Way

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But Loose was a guy who was once a spy

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for LSU against both.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is a great story.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering where we're going with this.

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Speaker 2: Where are you going with this.

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Speaker 3: Mister Tank Murdoch. That's the guy. He's like the big

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battye at the end of the movie. Yeah, we'll talk

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about what we think about that fight sort of at

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the end, but that's the big batty cool. Okay, great

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So we are here today to talk about the movies

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Every Which Way but Loose from nineteen seventy eight and

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the sequel Any Which Way You Can, which came out

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in nineteen eighty. Now, these are Clint Eastwood's first two

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attempts at comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're gonna talk about whether.

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Speaker 3: We think he succeeds or whether you think he feels Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about the fact that his career is

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far too long for us to go into depth on, right,

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And he has been making movies and TV shows as

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long as my dad's been alive.

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Speaker 3: I mean way longer than we've been alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and seventy years or more at this point, right, right, right,

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And so he started off, well, I'm just gonna skim

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by here, We're just gonna run through but right, he

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starts off and gets kind of ridiculed as a bad actor.

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But he starts off in rawhide, rowdy yates. Yes, But

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ultimately a little bit later he gets a chance break.

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The guy who directed Once Upon a Time in the

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West has a new movie that he wants to direct

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that's kind of a knockoff of a Kira Kirosawa movie

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called Jimbo. Yeah, okay, but he can't get the guys

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who were in Once upon a Time in the West

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because they're too expensive. Charles Brownson is too expensive at

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this point, and so he falls back on Clint Eastwood,

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and that is how we get the man with no name,

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the dollar trill g Yeah, this full of dollars, a

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few dollars more and.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. I love clinist. Let's talk about that for just

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a second. Yeah, are you a Clin Eastwood guy? Like,

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do you like his movies?

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Speaker 2: My friends growing up were all about John Wayne like

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their dad's watched John Wayne movies with him. My dad

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watched Clint Eastwood movies with me, Like, I mean, that's

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what we watched. And it wasn't so much the spaghetti

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westerns but the Dirty Harry movies. My dad thought they

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were hysterical. He could have called him a comedy. He

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thought it was great. Well really, when Clint Eastwood would

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go and foil a bank robbery while all chewing on

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the same bite of hot dog, he thought it was hysterical. So, okay,

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lots and lots of Clin Eastwood movies in my past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, Okay, I love Clin Eastwood movies too. And

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the funny thing is that he's sort of REINVENTI himself

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several times, you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and especially as a director, has done so

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many different types of movies, I mean, and has proven

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himself over and over, and it seems like every single

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time that he goes out and tries something new, the

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critics ridicule him, but the fans love him.

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Speaker 3: One of these days, we need to talk about Unforgiven,

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which is kind of his masterpiece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and we had our friend Dale Selby say, hey,

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you should do Unforgiven versus Dances with Wolves? Yeah right, yeah,

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want to watch The Outlaw Josie Wales. That was one

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of my favorite cowboy movies. It is sure. I start

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watching that, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's all the

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guys who are in every which way below it is.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, right, I mean, Sondra Locke is there, John

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Quaid is there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy who is the main bad guy, the

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Union soldier, he's one of the black widows, the guy

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who pulls them across the river, who's singing Dixie on

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one Way Across. He's one of the black widows. I mean,

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there are tons of guys. Oh and by the way,

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in The Outlaw Josie Wales, Yeah, the throwback to one

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of our very old, very unpopular episodisodes. Chev Woolley is

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also in The Outlaw Josie Wales. He is the guy

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He's the guy who did the Wilhelm yell is the

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Speaker 3: That's right, I forgot about that. That's right.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who in Josie Wales is playing the

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fiddle at the end and gets buried up to his

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neck by the Indians. It's great movie. It is a

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fantastic movie.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. Okay, cool, So let's talk about the birth

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of this movie.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, Yeah, So this script was written by a

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guy named Jeremy Joe Cronensberg. Yes, okay, he hasn't done

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a whole lot. Jeremy Joe, Jeremy Joe Cronsberg.

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Speaker 3: He goes by JJ. I bet he goes by Jay.

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Speaker 2: He probably goes by JJ. Yeah, he's done obviously every

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which way but loose. He also wrote the script for

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Any Which Way you Can and Going Ape.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fantastic. Okay, stop right there. Okay, you're blowing

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my mind already.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Going Ape? I have not, but I

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am aware that it involves a rang attang and there's

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a little bit of a theme here. All right.

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Speaker 3: So here's here's where the Shirley World colldes right here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: So you've got Danny DeVito, yes, which we talked about

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in our Twins episode, and Tony Danza holy close.

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Speaker 2: Now, Tony Dance.

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Speaker 3: Which we talked briefly about Taxi in our TV Themes

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episode we did. Then you've got Poppy the Orangutang, who

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Speaker 2: Which Way you Can? Oh nice? Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so it's just kind.

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Speaker 3: Of a fun collision movie and there's stupid hilarity. And

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as a kid, I freaking love this movie.

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saw this movie, I immediately started thinking about Electric Boogaloo,

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the Cannon Films documentary, because they had a movie that

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was supposed to have an ape in it, but like

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the Ape ended up, the Orangutang, Yes, it ended up

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biting the kid, and so like the next day it

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was a midget in an ape suit that looked absolutely terrible.

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Cannon films, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, I don't know if

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I don't know if Manis was the one that bit

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the kid or not.

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get down the road. Yeah, so Manis was the orangutang

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in every which way but loose. Yes, they had to

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one because they try to keep them young, because they're

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called c J, which might be Clyde Junior. It might

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they were doing their marketing and publicity, for he was

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the he was the ape that would go out into

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the public I guess. Interesting. Interesting, okay. And there's a

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there's a whole story out there involving Pete and Jane

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Goodall and the mistreatment of these animals, and that story

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has been called into question by other people, and we

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don't I'll get involved in that nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Here, not talking about any of that.

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Speaker 2: Tell you that it exists. Okay, there, right, there you go.

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So JJ Kronsberg has this script, Yes, that involves a

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bare knuckle brawler yep, and an.

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Speaker 3: Eight because why not right?

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Speaker 2: How can it not win? Right? How can it fail? Right?

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Of course? Well, unfortunately it fails like studio after studio

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after studio all turned him down. But you got the

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story on why this is a Smoking in the Bandit

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knockoff a bit of a stretch, I admit for the story, but.

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Speaker 3: Not real I mean, you know, kind of.

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Speaker 2: But so tell me what your thoughts said.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So there's a couple of urban legends about how

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this ended up with Clint Eastwood because this movie was

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originally intended for Burt Reynolds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy seven, Burt Reynolds does a comedy called Smoking

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the Bandit.

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Speaker 2: And this is after he's done a bunch of serious stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Deliverance was a fantastic but

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very serious, very dark movie action hero. Yeah, well, how

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Needham's says, Well, Burt Reynolds is a movie star. Let's

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make him into a comedic actor. And Smoking the Bandit

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is one of the greatest movies of the seventies.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to our pal Van Allen Plexico. I think

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it's maybe his favorite movie of all times.

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Speaker 3: It's irresistible.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, guys, we covered Smoking in the

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Bandit versus Canniball Run and I think season one, season one.

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Speaker 3: It's been a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely go check that out. But Hal Needham

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was Burt reynolds stunt man living on his couch, right,

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he's he's part of the inspiration for Brad Pitt's character

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and once upon a time in Hollywood. Absolutely, and so

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he's he writes this script and gives it to Burt Reynolds,

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and Burt Reynolds said, this may be the worst script

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I've ever read.

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Speaker 3: In my life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he's then Smoking the Bandits of course a big success.

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Speaker 3: It's the second largest movie from nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it only.

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Speaker 3: Trails Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen that one or not,

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but Star War that one, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so oh.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Smoking Man, huge hit. So they want Burt Reynolds

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for every which way but loose. Let's do another comedy

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barre Knuckles, Brawler and Orangu and Tang. How can we

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lose plus Burt Renlds. So one version I read was

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basically they got it to Burt Reynolds and Burt Reylds

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was like, I don't really want to do this.

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Speaker 2: I like monkeys.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure about this. Maybe my buddy Clint Eastwood

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would like to do it, Okay. Another version of it

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was there was a secretary involved and they were trying

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to pass it through the secretary to get to Burt Reynolds,

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and the secretary like intercepted it, showed it to Clint.

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Clint's like, yeah, I kind of want to because Clint

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was wanting to do something a little bit more broad,

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a little bit more smoking the bandit, a little more

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commercial broad in his appeal, and he basically intercepted the script.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the secretary her husband was a guy who

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was a sound guy. His name was Bob Hoyit and

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he did Mister Host. Yeah. He did the sound for Jaws,

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for play Misty, for Me, for The Last Starfighter, Yes

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for weird science. Yes, and he I don't know how

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the sound guy knows the right people to talk to,

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but he is the one that convinced Warner Brothers to

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greenlight this project.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know, play Misty for Me, Clint Eastwood.

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There you go. Wow, it's fantastic. So the movie is

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produced by a guy named Robert Day. Now, Robert Daly

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was with Clint Eastwood from Play Misty for Me all

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the way through any which way you can, Yeah, and

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then didn't do anything for a while, and then he

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did two more movies in nineteen eighty five. First one

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was Stick starring Burt Reynolds. Yeah by Elmore Leonard your favorite,

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right More. And the second one was Real Genius, Get

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out of here. I gotta I got to throw back

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for you. Ready for this? Yes? Mitch Taylor, Yeah, mitge Yeah,

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the not Val Kilmer part. Mitch Taylor was played by

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a guy named Gabriel Jarrett. Yes, Gabriel Jarrett is the

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son of Jeremy Joe Cronsberg, the writer of this movie.

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No way, there you go.

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Speaker 3: You're blowing my mind left and right. Happy to be

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Where are you going to find this information? That's incredible?

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Speaker 2: Thanks. So the movie was directed by a guy named

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James Fargo, who is still alive. He's eighty four years old.

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Dude's old man, Yeah, but not as old as Clint. No,

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he's not.

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Speaker 3: Clint just turned ninety three yesterday, by.

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Speaker 2: It, Yes, right, Clint is nine years older than fifty four.

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It's crazy anyway. He had been assistant director for Steven

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Spielberg on Duel.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and so Clenn Eastwood's like, hey, I need a director.

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You obviously, you know, have worked with the best, so

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come work with me. He did The Enforcer, He did

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every which way but loose, and then he would go

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on to his very important job of directing the eighteen.

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Be sure and go back if you haven't heard our

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last three episodes. We did the best TV themes of

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the seventies and eighties, and that one is there somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I pity the fool who did not listen to those episodes.

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By the way, Jas Fargo also worked on Joe Kid, Yeah,

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High Planes, Drifter, The Iigres Sanction, Ala Jose.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: Well, so he's been around Clint a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did a lot for him, Yes, okay, So let's

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talk about the crazy name of this movie. Yeah, every

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which Way but loose? Like I have trouble, I have

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to think about it to say it right every single time.

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Why would you call a movie this because there was

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a cool song by Eddie Rabbit called every Which Way

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but Loose, and they decided we want that song in

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the movie, and we're gonna name the movie after the song.

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Speaker 1: Every which Way. She turned every which way inside the

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five burning in my line. You just keep burning me

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every which way?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: You turned me?

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Speaker 2: Give me?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought the song was written for the movie.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, I am only here to report what

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I read, my friend.

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Speaker 3: The interwebs are telling us that that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that brings us to soundtrack of the show.

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You've got the Coca Cola Cowboy, Mister, mister mel tillis perfect.

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Speaker 3: I can't going leive m big men O.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to pretty miss, then Howley.

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Speaker 2: Taylor. You got Closed Doors by Charlie Rich and you

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got a couple songs by this woman named Sondra Locke. Yes,

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so there's a famous producer, famous country music producer named

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Snuff Garrett who produced these songs for this movie. And

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that included her songs, and his take was recording with

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her was problematic.

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Speaker 1: Time with nobody else around.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: All I could think of as I watched it was

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this was the best take, This was the best I

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I hate to do this, but this is the way

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I felt since I was a little tiny kid watching

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these movies with my dad. Sounderlocke is not an attractive person.

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Like as I got older. You remember when we talked

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about Toto, and it was like Toto, the guys from

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Toto looked like the guys your mom dated after she

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brought she divorced your dad. Yes, Sonderlock looks like the

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girl your dad dated after he divorced your mom.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and the one that you don't like.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, you don't like her, and you're like dad,

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you could do so much better than Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: She was involved with Den Eastwood for years.

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Speaker 2: It started with the outlaw Josie Whale.

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Speaker 3: By the way, on the subject of Sondra Locke, Yeah,

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our good buddy, mister David Deaf Dave Wright sent me

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some pictures the other day. She is sort of widely

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known to come from Shelbyville, Tennessee. Yes, but actually it's

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a smaller town close to Shelbyville called war Trace, And

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so he ran over there the other day and sent

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me some pictures from war Trace, Tennessee because he knew

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we were doing this.

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Speaker 2: Oh so nice, Yeah, good job.

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Speaker 3: So he showed me this, sent me this picture of

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downtown right here.

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Speaker 2: So that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's all of it.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole one. Yeah, that's three buildings. So yeah,

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she was. She was a young model who had gotten

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some attention and managed to secure a role in the

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nineteen sixty eight movie The Heart is a Lonely Hunter,

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which she was nominated for an Oscar for what but

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she lost out to Ruth Gordon. Are you kidding me?

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I Am not kidding you. And for those of you

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who don't know what I'm talking about, can you tell

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us who Ruth Gordon is?

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Speaker 3: Ruth Gordon plays Ma in both of these movies.

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Speaker 2: I knew I should have worn my wig.

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Speaker 3: You Harry Abe steal in my oreos She's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: She won an Oscar for Rosemary's Baby. That was it.

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Speaker 2: It was the year nineteen sixty eight. That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: You're blowing my mind, Like I can't even go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: You know all.

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Speaker 2: I love it. By the way, we.

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Speaker 3: Forgot to tell you before we started this podcast. Yeah,

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we should have the same rules for our podcast that

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Pilo has for Clyde. No spitting, no pissing, no farting,

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no picking your hack.

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Speaker 2: Man, that ruins my day. So we have a wonderful

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cast in this movie, right in both of these movies,

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because we've got a lot of carry over here. Basically

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the same Yeah, basically the same cast. So we know

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Clint Eastwood. We know that even though he was married

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and she was married at the time of the Outlaw,

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Josie Wales, they both fell in love and started dating

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each other, and so they're in it. Then we have wait,

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there's a story that goes with this. Oh, okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too deep on this because

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that's kind of our style. We like the juiciness, but

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we want to avoid the controversy.

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Speaker 2: Get it as juicy as you like it, and then

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00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:11,839
cut what you don't know. Here's the deal.

470
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,759
Speaker 3: Soder Locke was married to another man. Word on the

471
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,880
street is they never consummated that relationship because he didn't

472
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,880
really like her.

473
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, right, And they.

474
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,799
Speaker 3: Were married for years and years and years, and we're

475
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,039
sort of more roommates than friends. She was with Clint

476
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,319
Eastwood for years and years and years. There's a lot

477
00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:33,759
of overlap here. It's a lot of Hollywood stuff. I'm

478
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:34,960
not really sure how that works.

479
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,799
Speaker 2: But I can't say. I can't verify what you're saying.

480
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:41,480
What I can say is that I heard as part

481
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,799
of their not divorce settlement, but you know, they sued

482
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,839
each other when they broke up. Part of that deal

483
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:50,519
was she got to keep the house that Clint Eastwood

484
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,480
had bought for her husband, half a million dollar house. Yeah,

485
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,799
there's there's some Yeah, there's some story there.

486
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,759
Speaker 3: That was an agreement where I get to screw your

487
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,480
wife life and you get to live in this house. Yeah, okay,

488
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,200
So Sondra Locke plays Lynn Halsey Taylor.

489
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:10,279
Speaker 1: There's one too many women and your life.

490
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:15,599
Speaker 3: The one of us can making it right.

491
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: There's one too many women and your love, the one

492
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:28,480
you say you love. I'm the one you call your wine.

493
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,599
Speaker 2: That's all I have to say.

494
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: Listen, Okay, let me just say this. She's Clint Easwood's

495
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,960
live in girlfriend. So that's how that works. You know

496
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:46,200
she got the role in many of these movies probably

497
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,279
because she's attached to Clint, and that's Clint.

498
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: That's another outdake. I thought I was going to have

499
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:07,119
trouble with every which way but lose anyway.

500
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: But she's a package deal with Clint. Yes, okay, and

501
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:15,079
both of us agree. She has her moments, but she

502
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720
can't sing all that well, she's really not that pretty,

503
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,880
and she is immensely unlikable, particularly at the end of

504
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,359
this movie.

505
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: The only part I disagree with on is that she

506
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:33,799
has her moments. Okay, okay, So, because this is not

507
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,599
a bash session with the Shirley guys, do not bash

508
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,640
overly anyway. Let's move on to mister Jeffrey Lewis, because

509
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,440
he is a guy who helps make these movies.

510
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: I told you right before we started recording that he

511
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,240
may be my favorite character in the whole thing.

512
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: And then I said to you, he definitely has the

513
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,079
funniest part in the first movie. Yes, And you said

514
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:55,599
which part?

515
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,079
Speaker 3: And you told me and we both agreed.

516
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,039
Speaker 2: I showed you my bicep and then you sneezed, and

517
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,400
we both agree that is the funniest part of this movie.

518
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: There are a couple of laugh out loud moments for

519
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,559
every which way would lose. Yeah, that's one of them.

520
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,960
When the Black Widows roll up his sleeve and says,

521
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,039
look at this tattoo.

522
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,519
Speaker 2: What is this? Do you know who this is?

523
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: And Orville Jeffrey Lewis just shoe, just sneezes all over it. Yeah,

524
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,720
so funny.

525
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: You see they an arm?

526
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:34,519
Speaker 2: No, they tattoo? What these moves? Do you see that?

527
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:42,519
Speaker 3: He's in like seven or eight different Clinties to their buddies. Yeah, Clint,

528
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:45,279
Clint brings his friends along. I mean, why wouldn't you, right,

529
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,279
And he of course is the father of Juliette Lewis.

530
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,759
That is a mind blower if you did not know

531
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,960
that before. Juliette Lewis of course plays Beverly DeAngelo's daughter

532
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,079
in Christmas Vacation.

533
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Well, I was shocked whenever I'm watching the movie because

534
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,319
it's been decades since I seen it, and Beverly DiAngelo

535
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,720
shows up in the middle of the movie as echo

536
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,440
what echo? Oh that was such a lame joke that

537
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,680
they did four or five, four or five times and

538
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:18,319
still didn't get funny. So Jeffrey Lewis, Juliet Lewis's dad

539
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:24,279
is romantically involved with Beverly Giangelo, who ends up playing

540
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,039
Juliet Lui's mom later on. It's all very interesting.

541
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: It is interesting. So we were talking before we started recording.

542
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,200
I think that Jeffrey Lewis is like the greatest sidekick

543
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,599
of all time. He's always willing to do whatever it

544
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:39,839
takes to hang out with Filo. He gets beat up

545
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,160
multiple times, he gets shot, you know, he gets shot

546
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680
in the second one, and all he wants is to

547
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,960
hold the money and eat con pie and occasionally maybe

548
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:51,960
get laid on the road.

549
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: With Beverly D'Angelo, I have to think that he was

550
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:57,079
responsible for the skater style of turning your hat. I

551
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:57,519
love it.

552
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: It's always sort of cock eyed.

553
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so then we run into Beverly D'Angelo. She

554
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,559
plays Echo, What Echo? And how many times are we

555
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:09,000
gonna do that as big time as we can? All right?

556
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,279
So I had my mind blown a couple of times.

557
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:17,200
Beverly D'Angelo was an illustrator for Hannah Barbera before she

558
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:21,920
started acting. What what What what? And then she doesn't

559
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,319
go into acting, she goes into singing. She's the backup

560
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,359
singer for the band that ultimately becomes the band What. Yes,

561
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,559
I was just like what and so so yeah, and

562
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,319
so this is one of her very earliest acting roles.

563
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,759
And she's she's twenty four fox.

564
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: He is all get up majors right always. Yeah, And

565
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,119
they have that really funny moment where he's squeezing the cantalopes.

566
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. She was the first set of boobs I

567
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,440
ever saw on the screen. I was hoping you were

568
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,920
going to bring that up. She was the first set

569
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,720
of boobs I ever saw on the big screen. It

570
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,240
will be etched into my memory for Ellen gri yep.

571
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

572
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: And so she's very young and super attractive, and she

573
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,000
gives the film a little kick, as you know, it's

574
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,759
a road movie. They meet her sort of halfway. She

575
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,279
jumps in with them, but she's cute. And then you've

576
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:20,240
got Ruth Gordon Asthma. Fantastic You Harry Abes deal in

577
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:21,160
my oreos.

578
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,079
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And she'd been acting for forever. She was

579
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:29,039
a playwright, she's done everything. Very talented lady.

580
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: I cannot really see her as anything other than Filo's

581
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,200
She's not even Filo's mom. She's Orville's mom, right, But

582
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,240
she's just the grumpy old lady. You know, I.

583
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,119
Speaker 2: Quit in your job letting an old lady die of

584
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,359
frost Fike Anker Sawers. It froze around here in thirty

585
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640
years down half.

586
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: I got thin blood. Let's talk about John Quaid for

587
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:56,920
a second.

588
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Then, who stopped him holding you?

589
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

590
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: There spat on you and let yous ain't stop it dry?

591
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,440
So who's high you're gonna nail to the gates of hell?

592
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,799
Speaker 3: Okay?

593
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,279
Speaker 2: John Quaid is the leader of the neo Nazi group

594
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:24,440
the Black Widows.

595
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Lord, you made some men out of clay, you made

596
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:31,039
mine outish.

597
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,799
Speaker 2: He's hilarious, right, Oh fantastic. Yeah.

598
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,079
Speaker 3: So he got involved in acting. I mean just somebody

599
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,880
came up to him and said, I like your face.

600
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,079
Have you ever thought about acting?

601
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:42,519
Speaker 2: Oh?

602
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:42,799
Speaker 1: Wow?

603
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he was in a ton of those old

604
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,720
West TV shows as well, just like Piggy Barnes was.

605
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,319
And he was in the Outlaw Josie Wales as one

606
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,559
of the would be Well he wasn't quite the would

607
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,400
be rapist he was. He was the guy who stopped

608
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,559
the would be rapists in the Outlaw Josey Wales, but

609
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160
he got his come uppance anyway, that's right.

610
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,599
Speaker 3: I like how he's got the little hole in his

611
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,599
shirt where you can see the black widow on his

612
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,160
temmiy It's great. He is funny in every which way

613
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,640
but lose yeh. But he's extra funny in any which

614
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,079
way you can.

615
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: He takes the he takes the absurd campy to the

616
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,519
next level. So good, so good. We'll pay for that.

617
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,200
You were telling me not to get too political, but

618
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
you were telling me that he got pretty political for

619
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,319
a while.

620
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's a couple of things I know about

621
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:36,960
John Quaid. Okay, he worked at sort of an engineering

622
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:41,160
plant and he made parts that are like NASA used

623
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,400
and are still on the moon today. Like he manufactured

624
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,039
these parts and they're they're.

625
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,759
Speaker 2: On the moon right now.

626
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, just the guy who played Chola, right, yeah, okay,

627
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,839
but he said that he always got these sort of

628
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,119
heavy acting roles, like he always plays the tough guy,

629
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,200
the bad guy, big teddy bear, very lovable. Kids love him.

630
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,960
He's just a lovable type of guy.

631
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,799
Speaker 3: He was very anti government though, and we're not political,

633
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240
but he's one of these guys that's like, the government

634
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,079
should not enforce you to register your vehicle and should

635
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,440
not require anybody to get.

636
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: A driver's license. Just is interesting. There you go.

637
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we cannot forget We've talked a little bit,

638
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:27,079
but Manus as Clyde. Yeah, here's the thing I think

639
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,079
the movies get right. Both of these movies get right.

640
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Manus is not the star of the movie. Clint is

641
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:37,880
the star of the movie. Right, movies with monkeys or

642
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,240
orangu tangs or chimps, they tend to make that the star,

643
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,960
and it's all weighed on an animal who can or

644
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,640
can't act.

645
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: And that's it, right.

646
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:51,119
Speaker 3: He's a sidekick. Yeah, he's comedy relief and he's funny

647
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,960
as crap.

648
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,279
Speaker 2: I loved Clint e Swot's take on it because they

649
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,359
were talking to him about the difficulty of working with

650
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,119
kids and animals, and he's like, he was the most

651
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
natural actor that I've ever worked with. Now, we had

652
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,680
to get it right on the first take because he'd

653
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,559
get bored pretty quick. Yeah, and he said, but if

654
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,480
you know, people talk about him stealing the show, Well,

655
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,360
I'm a producer on the show. So if he steals

656
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,360
the show and it's a success, great.

657
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: Exactly right. Yeah, there's a funny scene with Manis and

658
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,119
Clint Eastwood, and you can actually see it on screen. Okay,

659
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,519
during the filming of Every which Way but Loose. They're

660
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:27,039
driving in a truck and you can tell he starts

661
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,559
to get a little physical with Clint. Okay, he starts

662
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:31,760
to kind of headlock.

663
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: Him a little bit, uh huh.

664
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Clint, I mean cameras are rolling. Like you said,

665
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,119
he's a producer. Sometimes you just kind of kind of

666
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,360
go with it. Yeah, and you could tell the strength

667
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,639
of this animal is hurting Clint a little bit, and

668
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,239
he's trying to work his way through the scene. The

669
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:51,559
trainers had to talk on the CB to calm him

670
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:52,280
down a little.

671
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: Bit, gotcha, because they're strong, those animals. Oh my gosh,

672
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,599
rip your arms off, oh man. I mentioned before one

673
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:02,239
of the Black Widows was the Union general in The Outlaw,

674
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,119
Jose Wales. That actor's name was Bill McKinney. He's another

675
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,599
guy who's just been in a ton of stuff and

676
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,199
is very was very good at being both the tough

677
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,000
guy as well as the funny guy. Okay, but other

678
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,679
movies that he's been in where he's been those various types,

679
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:24,079
First Blood, Back to the Future three, Yeah, and the

680
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,320
Green Mile. And then to throw back what you mentioned earlier,

681
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:31,800
a very memorable part that he played was in the

682
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,960
movie Deliverance, where he played one of the two hillbillies

683
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:43,079
who Rapedd Bady, the one who says squeal like a pig. Yeah,

684
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:44,639
same guy.

685
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 1: Wow.

686
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: Well, hey, he's carved out a great living for himself.

687
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: Bang and ned baby day that will live an infa me.

688
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,880
I just want to bring this up.

689
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: Both of these movies are road movies, uh huh, And

690
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,360
so it's kind of fun to you're with this ragtag

691
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,800
group of guys. They're being chased by a ragtag group.

692
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,159
Speaker 2: Of guys, and it just so happens.

693
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: I've told you I don't tend to visit movie locations

694
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,760
very often, but coincidentally, I've been to both Georgetown, Colorado,

695
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,079
huh A million times. Yeah, and I've been to Jackson

696
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:21,119
Hawayoming Yeah. And so every time I see these scenes,

697
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:21,880
I'm like, I was there.

698
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny because you were in San Diego

699
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920
a month ago. Whenever I was watching these movies and

700
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,679
I was like, oh, I bet there's a place nearby.

701
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,559
I couldn't find any place nearby because almost all the

702
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,840
scenes were shot in California, Right, except those two scenes

703
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,519
that you're talking.

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Speaker 3: About right before I talk about the scene that I

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really dislike in this movie. Okay, I want to talk

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There are some really funny moments in Every Which Way

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but Lose. Okay, So I want to talk to you

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about the introduction of Clyde. Now, I don't remember what

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it was like, you know, way back when before the

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movie came out, like how much people really knew about

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that or whatever. Right, but the very beginning of Every

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Which Way but Loose, Clint's character Philobedo goes into like

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a barn and he's like Clyde Clyde, and he gets

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tackled by Clyde.

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Speaker 2: It's like Cato for Peter Sellers. It is right, And I.

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Speaker 3: Remember as a kid, I thought that was hilarious because

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Clinton speak strong guy. And then this oranging team just

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damn just tackles him, takes him out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the end of the fight, Clint Eastwood

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still has the beer in his hand and gives it

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to Clyde. Is like the you win, here's your prize,

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bears to you. Clyde beers to you. I mentioned to

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you today, I texted you. I'm like I'm watching an interview,

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like a legitimate interview of Clint Eastwood about this movie,

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and he is drinking a glass of beer while he's.

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Speaker 3: Doing the because why not.

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Speaker 2: It's a different time, baby, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is. Okay, So I told you when when Clyde

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is driving the steamroller. Yes, as a kid, top notch comedy,

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not comedy.

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Speaker 2: Right there, right, comedy gold for an eight year old.

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Speaker 3: Okay, When Orville and Filo get confronted by the Black

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widows and Orville sneezes on his bicepp, cracks me up,

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and then they proceed to get in a fight. Filo

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goes outside and the fight is on, and Orvile's just

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eating his pecan pie. She's like, don't you think you

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need to go out and help him.

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Speaker 2: He's like no, no, he's all right, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: And then of course Ma shooting the bikes with the shotgun,

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funniest crape. And then of course Echo and the canalobes.

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So there were some funny moments, right, even the beginning

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scene where he gets in a fight with a guy

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for taking his peanuts at the bar.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's the that's the sheriff. That's like trailing

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him around, right.

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Speaker 3: That's the sheriff that's trailing him around, right, but he's

747
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we're Max in the.

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Speaker 2: Face, yes, Max in the face with the fish. And

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then some what we would probably say are some racist

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moments for his sidekick where he's making he's making his sidekick,

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who's an African American do all of the work digging

752
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the hole. He's doing the hike, he's doing it all.

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Speaker 3: All of this was over or Clint taking a little

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more than his fair share of free peanuts and he

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chases him across the country and gets smacked in the face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's talk about.

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Speaker 3: The scene that I think we both agree is the

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worst scene in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is it when Sandra Locke is singing.

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Speaker 3: No that's a second way so okay, it's the moment

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at the end when Sondra Locke loses her ever loved mind.

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Speaker 2: When she So I texted you while I was watching

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any which way you can, Yeah, because I noted that

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their way of having Filo Beto punched the camera like

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you're you're the POV of the guy getting punched. Yes,

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and also with William Smith, same thing. I was like

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they figured out what they messed up in the first

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movie because that scene, I mean, she's like spitting and snotty,

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swing her teeth and just hitting you as the camera

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and it is just it's not good. It is so

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off putting. It's weird.

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Speaker 3: He's chased her all the way across the county. We'll

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get into our final judgment next episode, right, He's chased

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her all the way because he thinks there's a chance

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for them to have a relationship, and then she just

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blasts him with this vitriol and just hatred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been scammed spoiler alert. She's been scamming him

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the whole freaking time, stealing his money. And I mean,

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Sondra Locke, whenever she got interviewed for any which way

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you can, she was like, I can't believe they put

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me back in the whose surprise, My character was such

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a pizza crap. I don't know how, but they they

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wrote it out and they did a decent job of,

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you know, making her more sympathetic. And she said, I

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just pretend that she had a good round of therapy

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in between the last movie and this movie and its

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improved as a person.

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Speaker 3: Well that works better in the second movie, or sure,

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are you ready to talk about the second movie.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about any which way you can.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next week. Guys, thank you for

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joining us for this week. That's enough of every which

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way but loose. Come back next week we talk about

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any which way you can. The sequel, Oh boy, push

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me way too far.

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Speaker 2: I got up to ask him why.

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Speaker 1: Then he functs me in