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<v Speaker 1>Weary, weary, m what did you steal.

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<v Speaker 2>Secrets from Steven Spielberg? People have started, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going to do? Full disclosure to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole world on June twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>Wellcus on the brink.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do this, there's.

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<v Speaker 4>No one doing it. Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, this is disclosure Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Disclosure Day?

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<v Speaker 1>Did it beat you? Thirteen?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello everyone, and welcome to the Culture Cast and the

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<v Speaker 4>Projection Booth. I am one of your hosts, Christashiu, and

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<v Speaker 4>I am joined by my good friend, the host of

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<v Speaker 4>the aforementioned Projection Booth. He is the alien that walks

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<v Speaker 4>amongst us, your friend and mine, Mike White.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's my wife, Margaret Fairchild.

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<v Speaker 4>And my waff Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. We're

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<v Speaker 4>here once again because it's twenty twenty six and the

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<v Speaker 4>gods amongst us have graced us with the Steven Spielberg

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<v Speaker 4>film about aliens in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Who to thunk it not?

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<v Speaker 4>I well, other than the fact that we all saw

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<v Speaker 4>the previous through this movie for the last like two years.

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<v Speaker 4>So on this episode of the Culture Cast slash the

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<v Speaker 4>Projection Booth slash Projection Booth slash Culture Cast we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be doing a little episode on twenty twenty six's

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<v Speaker 4>Disclosure Day. So film is directed by Steve Spielberg on

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<v Speaker 4>a screenplay by David Kepp. Abe worked together several times before,

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<v Speaker 4>including on a little film you might have seen called

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<v Speaker 4>Jurassic Part film stars Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth,

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<v Speaker 4>Eve Huston, and man Joe Jackson himself Coleman Domingo.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>It is about the race to Disclosure Day and the

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<v Speaker 4>people attempting to stop that from happening, and the people

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<v Speaker 4>attempting to ferry that long disclosure Day being the day

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<v Speaker 4>that humanity finds out that we are, in fact not alone.

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<v Speaker 4>We will be spoiling the ever loving shit out of

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<v Speaker 4>this movie because it's a new movie and we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be doing our due diligence if we didn't spoil it

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<v Speaker 4>for you. However, I would say, before we spoil it,

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Worth checking out going to the theater? Yes or no? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Spicy, short and sweet?

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<v Speaker 2>You like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>As I walked out of the theater, I said, well

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<v Speaker 2>that was underwhelming.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say I would say yes, conditionally, yes, conditionally,

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<v Speaker 4>that you are someone who has an interest in this

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<v Speaker 4>aang or section of the world. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you're not already amenable to the idea of extraterrestrials, OBEs

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<v Speaker 4>just conspiracy theories in general. I'm not sure that this

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<v Speaker 4>is something that's going to really tugging your heartstrings the

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<v Speaker 4>way at Close Encounters of the Third Kind did.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say in.

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<v Speaker 4>Terms of it being a Steven Spielberg movie, I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>think it's the best Steven Spielberg movie I've seen in

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<v Speaker 4>a while, which, I mean, what you're damning with fucking

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<v Speaker 4>faint praise might even be not diplomatic enough, Right's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I would not say go see this if you're not

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<v Speaker 4>already interested in it. If you're already interested in it,

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<v Speaker 4>then definitely go see it, because I think it's enjoying

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<v Speaker 4>Steven Spielberg on the big screen. I wouldn't say the

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<v Speaker 4>last time, but you never know at this point, so

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<v Speaker 4>this is in the wheelhouse of Spielberg. So I would say, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>go see it. But if you're not interested in aliens and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that, I would say hard pass.

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<v Speaker 4>So with all that, by the way, Mike, you will

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<v Speaker 4>be spoiling it from here on out, So don't blame

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<v Speaker 4>us if you don't hear that. What did you think

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<v Speaker 4>of Disclosure Day, Mike? I am so curious because you're

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<v Speaker 4>no can lead me to think only one thing. But

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's not I know because you are a

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<v Speaker 4>very astute individual as am I that it is not

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<v Speaker 4>just no. But I know, for sake of efficiency, no

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<v Speaker 4>is an easy answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, usually a no, butt or just a no. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do it. I wouldn't spend your hard earned money

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<v Speaker 2>on this. I go out and buy the Blu ray

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<v Speaker 2>of Close Encounters of the Third kind, maybe some et Hell,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to recommend more of the World, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. But yeah, I was just really underwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>by this film. It's just it's a strange movie. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the way we begin by being kicked in the face

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<v Speaker 2>during some sort of like Ultimate Fighting Champion type of

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<v Speaker 2>thing wrestling match, I guess it is, And I'm just like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>whose point of view is this? Like, because we've got

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<v Speaker 2>the boot to the face and then we cut out

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<v Speaker 2>to the crowd and we're just kind of zooming around.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like Connor McLeod was going to be there

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<v Speaker 2>someplace and he was going to cut off somebody's head

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<v Speaker 2>in the parking lot, but instead it's our first encounter

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<v Speaker 2>with this alien technology that we don't know much about.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't worry. It's really not very complicated. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it described as basically a magic wand this

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<v Speaker 2>weird alien technology that they have, and yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a two protagonist film between the Josh O'Connor a character,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Daniel Kellner, and then Emily Blunt as Margaret Fairchild,

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<v Speaker 2>who I could only think of Morgan Fairchild every single

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<v Speaker 2>time they said her name, and we kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth between those two and have their shitty

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that they have. Whytt Russell's Tars's Jackson, that's Emily

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<v Speaker 2>Blunt's bow And of course they don't end up together

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret and Daniel, which I think is good. Instead, Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>is much more involved with this woman, Jane Blankenship played

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<v Speaker 2>by Eve Houston, and that whole faith versus science kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that they have going on. I'm just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this feels like it's straight from one of my least

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<v Speaker 2>favorite movies in the world. Contact. Yeah, I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a shit I didn't give a shit about anybody

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. Really, it was just like so bland

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<v Speaker 2>and it just felt like Spielberg has done all of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff before, like especially this whole you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>two characters are separated and they're trying to find each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's Melinda Dillon and Richard Dreyfus in Close

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<v Speaker 2>Encounters of the Third kind. I mean it's just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they have these feelings, they have these visions, these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things, but I'm not compelled by any of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just putting Blunt as a TV weather lady

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<v Speaker 2>and that By the way, you mentioned the trailers. I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen any trailers for this. I kept myself completely

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<v Speaker 2>out of the loop. The only thing I knew about

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<v Speaker 2>this was Emily Blunt stands in front of a weather

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<v Speaker 2>map at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I came in very cold for this movie. I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>what were your expectations going into this?

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<v Speaker 4>So I had seen the advertising slash trailers for the film.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, again for the last you know, however long

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<v Speaker 4>it's been since the first trailer came out, I would

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<v Speaker 4>say that they did a really good job in not

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<v Speaker 4>showing what was going to happen with the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the main crux of the story was not really given

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<v Speaker 4>away in the previews up until just the last week

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<v Speaker 4>since the movie came out, which they really love doing

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<v Speaker 4>that where it's like, now we're going to ruin the

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<v Speaker 4>whole fucking movie. It's like, wait a second, wait, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't do that. It's this whole American audiences don't like

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<v Speaker 4>to feel stupid, and so we got to give them

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<v Speaker 4>the whole movie so that when they're watching it, they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that from the trailer, and it's like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>you're diminishing the quality of the movie for some people. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I look, trailers, you don't have to watch trailers. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't even have to watch trailers. If you go to

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<v Speaker 4>the movie theater, you can show up late. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you have like fifteen twenty minutes of trailers ahead of

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<v Speaker 4>the movie. So I you know, when someone says, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>the movie's at three o'clock, we got to be there

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<v Speaker 4>at three, it's like, no, we don't have to be

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<v Speaker 4>there until like three thirty. Really, so I all I

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<v Speaker 4>was expecting was and this is again this was my

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<v Speaker 4>fingers crossed. Here was a return to form for Steven Spielberg,

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<v Speaker 4>a director who what's your approximation on the last time

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I haven't seen Meet the Fablemens, so looking back

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<v Speaker 2>at his well, I can't even say recent, since Fableman's

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<v Speaker 3>And sorry, it was half a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, sorry, I thought, I honestly thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>called Meet the Fablements.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Fablements the Feebleman's, I think the actual title

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<v Speaker 4>in the film. You mean Steven Spielberg the film, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't see West Side Story. I did see Ready Player one,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was wretched.

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<v Speaker 3>The close west Side Story the original, yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>The Fableman's is just a retelling of Steven Spielberg's life,

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't really know if either one of those

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<v Speaker 4>are really original, even like I don't even know the

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<v Speaker 4>last original movie he made.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I mean, was it The Post in twenty seventeen?

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that based on a book?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I mean, are you growing now? Books? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even Jonas was based on I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I'm not throwing out books, but I

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<v Speaker 4>guess at this point it's it's less about a adaptation,

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<v Speaker 4>but more, did you adapt it well was probably a

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<v Speaker 2>Looking yeah, because there's no way anybody could adapt Ready

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<v Speaker 2>Player one well since it was based on a pile

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<v Speaker 4>Shit, actual piece of BC's My God. I still to

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<v Speaker 4>this day do not understand for the fucking life of

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<v Speaker 4>me who that book was for, other than Will Wheaton's

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an insult to Will Wheaton personally.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good, that's fine, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he And like, I don't know, Ready Player

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<v Speaker 4>one struck me as like a film for people that

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<v Speaker 4>watched Big.

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<v Speaker 3>Bang Theory, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>That same thing the corner of the world where it's

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<v Speaker 4>like this is nerdy stuff and it's cool. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>this feels really forced and sloppy and ham fisted, and

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<v Speaker 4>just because you can rattle off like eight million nerdy

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<v Speaker 4>things doesn't mean you know or are in tune with

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<v Speaker 4>any of them. And that for me was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the The excitement for a Steven Spielberg alien movie is

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<v Speaker 4>Steven Spielberg as a director, has alien DNA baked into

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<v Speaker 4>what he's done. Et Close Encounters are the Third Kind

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<v Speaker 4>or the Worlds even of a film that I probably

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy more than most people.

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<v Speaker 2>You could even say AI because the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>you've got aliens showing up.

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<v Speaker 4>In there, right, and then Minority Report you have like

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<v Speaker 4>super heavy sci fi future tech. So again, it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of in this world that Steven Spielberg occasionally veers into,

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<v Speaker 4>which is sci fi. So my initial hope was just

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<v Speaker 4>a return to form for Spielberg because to your point,

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<v Speaker 4>the last Steven Spielberg film I saw in theaters was

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<v Speaker 4>Ready Player one, and I remember leaving that theater and

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<v Speaker 4>really not excited to have to podcast about this with

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<v Speaker 4>someone who loved it, which is exactly what happened, because

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<v Speaker 4>the entire time because they were just like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a good movie. You just don't get it. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. I just don't understand why we had

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<v Speaker 2>Was that that same guy that loved Rise of Skywalker

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<v Speaker 4>You no, Matt Okay, yeah, no, no, no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a this is a friend of mine who I who

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<v Speaker 4>was a decent guy. But you know, his opinion on

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<v Speaker 4>Ready Player one is suspect, to say the least. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>Ready Player one felt very surface level in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>face of is Disclosure Day successful in communicating the current

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<v Speaker 4>state of the world of conspiracy theories, aliens and UAPs

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<v Speaker 4>and and I unidentified aerial phenomenons. I would say that

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<v Speaker 4>leaning into what is now the conversation we're having about

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<v Speaker 4>alien life. However, I didn't dislike it as much as

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<v Speaker 4>you did. But for me, and I pose this question

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<v Speaker 4>to you, was it really about aliens? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it was. I get the distinct feeling this was

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<v Speaker 4>a Steven Spielberg is doing the horror movie thing where

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<v Speaker 4>it's aliens are acting as X instead of just alien

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm with the with the name Disclosure Day,

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<v Speaker 2>with the look at all this evidence, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put this out and keep everybody's going to be stunned,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to stop this conflict, this vague, vague

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<v Speaker 2>conflict that would never make really here about I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>never really talked about very much. I guess it has

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with North Korea question mark. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I'm just thinking the Epstein Files the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire time, I'm just like, oh, these people have

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<v Speaker 2>the Epstein Files. Okay. Yeah, I don't know necessarily why

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<v Speaker 2>order to, I guess, bring people back to their memories

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<v Speaker 2>of things. And so much of this is about memories

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<v Speaker 2>and repressed memories and childhood trauma, which also for me

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it fits into the Epstein stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even with the wrestling match at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, well, that just happened yesterday on the

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<v Speaker 2>White House lawn. Okay, So maybe I'm just reading way

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<v Speaker 2>too much into it, and I probably am. I probably

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<v Speaker 2>have trumped arrangement syndrome, but it just felt like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>even if that, because we've already had this, We've already

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<v Speaker 2>had so many revelations of things to do with and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm not going to use your terminology, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like you, funny duddy.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was just nothing but a you know, wet fart.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, look at all this stuff. It's like, yeah, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>now release the Epstein files. It's like that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>real stuff that we want. I mean, we're we're at

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<v Speaker 2>war right now. To take us away from the Epstein Files.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like February You've got ted Leu coming

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<v Speaker 2>out saying the president rapes children. Next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we are bombing Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>I so I'm not And this might be the first

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<v Speaker 4>time I say this to you. I'm not nearly as cynical.

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<v Speaker 3>About this movie as you are.

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<v Speaker 4>For once, I think, because I tend to feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the cynical one, and I feel like I've received

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<v Speaker 4>a fair amount of flak online from critics of my

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<v Speaker 4>show for being super critical. Ah, And I think for me,

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<v Speaker 4>this might be the first time in a while where

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<v Speaker 4>I sat and just watched a movie and just by

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<v Speaker 4>the end of it. I think, like my takeaway was

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<v Speaker 4>if this is a if Spielberg's films have been about

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<v Speaker 4>a question of faith, which a lot of his films

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<v Speaker 4>are a question of faith, like you know, the search

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<v Speaker 4>for faith, either in something else or in someone else

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<v Speaker 4>or in a higher power. I mean I just think

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, I think to that scene in Raiders

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<v Speaker 4>of the Lost Arc with uh, you know, the opening

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<v Speaker 4>of the the arc, and we know that's that act

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<v Speaker 4>of faith, right, you have to believe that there's something

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<v Speaker 4>in there and that the sand in there is not

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<v Speaker 4>just saying that it's imbued with the holy powers of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible. And then cut to something like Last Crusade

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<v Speaker 4>where Indiana Jones has to take that step onto that bridge,

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<v Speaker 4>onto that path to show that he has faith in

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a penitent man. All of that, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all framed through the search for you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>faith and faith in onesel for faith. And in this

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<v Speaker 4>film it's it's faith in humanity, I guess is the

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<v Speaker 4>question of you know, is is humanity worth saving from it?

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and the question to answer holistically, especially in

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<v Speaker 4>this day and age, especially in our times now that

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<v Speaker 4>are so overwhelmingly cynical. I have a hard time with

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<v Speaker 4>Steven Spield kind of coming in and being like, well, see,

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<v Speaker 4>aliens are about believing in humanity, and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for me, I come at this at a different angle,

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<v Speaker 4>which is this is a movie. I wish that this

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<v Speaker 4>is a movie that was more successful, because if it

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<v Speaker 4>was more successful, I would say that this is a

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<v Speaker 4>movie that we kind of need right now. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think because it's it's not very focused in its message,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it really falls apart because there, I

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<v Speaker 4>kid you not, there are moments in this movie that

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<v Speaker 4>moved me to tears multiple times, Wow, to full time Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We no, this requires a Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>leap of faith at the end where it's like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>undo your wishes kind of thing, and it's like, really

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's looking at their phones while this newscast is

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<v Speaker 2>going on at the end, and I'm just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it. I don't see people being riveted.

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<v Speaker 3>I disagree. That is the part.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's maybe the main disagreement is if you

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<v Speaker 4>believe that conceit at the end of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I just don't buy into it and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like muddled and just unfocused and just even like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the very earliest scenes you've got the h God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna forget these, both their characters and the

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know him from that Third Knives Out movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I had not seen him in anything up until this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, when doctor Daniel Kellner and Jane Blankenship are

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<v Speaker 2>escaping from Colin Firth as Noah Scanton, who if.

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<v Speaker 4>You if you squint really hard, it looks just like

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<v Speaker 3>And Ready Player one, very much Ready Player one here

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<v Speaker 3>like Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>They are leaving, they they are escaping for them of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're surrounded by all these people with guns and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody just puts their guns down and just lets them

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<v Speaker 2>move out. I was like, well, that's kind of fun up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because he's got that magic

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<v Speaker 2>wand or not, but it's just like, this is very

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<v Speaker 2>strange because then, you know, I don't know, an hour later,

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<v Speaker 2>they're ready to push him and Emily Blunt into the

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<v Speaker 2>side of an oncoming train. You know, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well are you killing them or are you okay just

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<v Speaker 2>letting them go?

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<v Speaker 4>I was not okay letting them go, but the other no,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's and again like I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>one of those belief things, right, Like I think the

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<v Speaker 4>movie is getting it something and I think it just

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<v Speaker 4>keeps missing it, which is there will always be people

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<v Speaker 4>that are going to be obstinate to believing in something,

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<v Speaker 4>regardless of whether or not they're shoot and that that

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<v Speaker 4>is the case. But the movie just it's it throws

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<v Speaker 4>that net out and then just kind of abandons it

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<v Speaker 4>is what.

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<v Speaker 2>He should believe because he's there with his boss who's

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<v Speaker 2>like astro projecting. I mean, he believes he just wants

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<v Speaker 2>They just want to stop the message from getting out,

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<v Speaker 2>which I guess that's just because that's their job. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's I mean, things just don't add up in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie. I won't talk about the incredibly horrible CG

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<v Speaker 2>because some people can just say, well, that's because those

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<v Speaker 2>are aliens, that's why they look so shitty. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>the animal shows up, I'm just like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as soon as that bird flew in the windows,

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<v Speaker 2>like this looks awful. What the hell are we doing here,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Spielberg, You made me believe that dinosaurs exist. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this, I'm just like, that's the fakest fucking

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<v Speaker 2>bird I've ever seen in my life. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where Blunt and Russell are kind of like going

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<v Speaker 2>out of town kind of thing, right, because they've escaped

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<v Speaker 2>from the hospital at this point, and they they're at

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<v Speaker 2>a gas station and gas station slash convenience store and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just all of this activity going on, and they

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<v Speaker 2>say something like, oh, yeah, everybody's trying to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of town or something like that, and I'm like, why, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this because of the war? I think, okay, seem.

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<v Speaker 4>They said at the one point they were like, people

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<v Speaker 4>are trying to get away from centers of like mass population.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they don't do a good job of they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, it's all of this what's surprising, is it?

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<v Speaker 4>And I would equate this to something that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>again to go back to something that we will not

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<v Speaker 4>be watching in five weeks, no matter how many times

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<v Speaker 4>they bombarred my fucking ass with trailers for it, I

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<v Speaker 4>will not be going to see The Odyssey in five However, however,

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<v Speaker 4>that I can already fucking tell that Nolan is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be telling that story in the broadest goddamn strokes

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<v Speaker 4>possible to appeal to the largest audience of people, because

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<v Speaker 4>that is what Nolan does, and that's what Spielberg used

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<v Speaker 4>to make movies for everybody that had a heart, And

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<v Speaker 4>rambling at this point. Is universal message I think at

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<v Speaker 4>this point gets lost because it's just it's not focused,

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<v Speaker 4>and it honestly hasn't been focused. You'd see fucking for

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<v Speaker 4>frankly the longest time with Spielberg again, I think he

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<v Speaker 4>when he works with a writer who really hits the

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<v Speaker 4>really great notes, we get some really great stuff. But

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't think this movie gets across what

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<v Speaker 4>as important. It's it's it's a zombie movie thing where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, there's zombies in the background, they're running

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<v Speaker 4>around and we don't know where they came from. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like this isn't that like there's there's a war. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>go into that a little bit, like maybe even just

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<v Speaker 4>the minorist amount, just to give us an idea of like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, give us an opening title, crawl like

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<v Speaker 4>the world is on the brink of wars something anything.

421
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<v Speaker 4>Let us better understand why the aliens are doing this now,

422
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<v Speaker 4>because that seems to be motivated by the conflict. Would

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<v Speaker 4>you not say, like the world is the closest it's

424
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<v Speaker 4>ever been to destruction once again.

425
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<v Speaker 2>So you're talking, you're talking the day the Earth stood still.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Then you're talking about you know, Clyto coming down and

427
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<v Speaker 2>being like, hey, you guys are about to murder each other.

428
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<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't have these nuclear weapons. Let me try to

429
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<v Speaker 2>save you from yourselves.

430
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<v Speaker 4>Is this that's as successful?

431
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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah.

432
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<v Speaker 2>The day the aarswers still the original, not the cana

433
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<v Speaker 2>Reeves version, the Day of the Arts there was so much,

434
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<v Speaker 2>so much better handled than this. And I would even

435
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<v Speaker 2>say things like Mars attacks are better better handled than this,

436
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, yeah, I don't know. It just felt

437
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<v Speaker 2>super messy to me, and it just felt like we

438
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<v Speaker 2>were so going by the numbers when it came to

439
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.880
<v Speaker 2>all of these action beats, and the only thing that

440
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<v Speaker 2>was interesting about it was just that you have two

441
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<v Speaker 2>protagonists that will eventually meet up rather than just the one.

442
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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got stupid ship where it's just like,

443
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<v Speaker 2>you know, when h Josh starts to hear the message

444
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<v Speaker 2>from the news broadcast where Emily Blunt was speaking, like

445
00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the clicking noises and stuff, I think that's the moment

446
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.799
<v Speaker 2>where he's in a field and suddenly the grass starts

447
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.799
<v Speaker 2>laying down and making a fucking prop circle, and I'm

448
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.720
<v Speaker 2>just like, what the hell are we doing here? Like

449
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<v Speaker 2>this is this is like m Night Shyamalan level of stuff.

450
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<v Speaker 4>This movie is one hundred and forty five minutes. How

451
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<v Speaker 4>the fuck is one hundred and forty five minute movie

452
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<v Speaker 4>missing another half an hour?

453
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<v Speaker 3>Seriously? Like this?

454
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I almost feel like in a way, and you know,

455
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<v Speaker 4>let's let's talk broadly here, because I went and saw

456
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<v Speaker 4>the film with a friend of mine's nephew. I took

457
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<v Speaker 4>him to the movies and when I was like, hey,

458
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<v Speaker 4>do you want to go see a Steven Spielberg alien movie?

459
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<v Speaker 4>He got so excited. He was like, you mean, like

460
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<v Speaker 4>from the Alien franchise? And I was like, no, I know,

461
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<v Speaker 4>I'm disappointed too, but it's a Steven Spielberg movie. But

462
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<v Speaker 4>I thought about Prometheus a lot while watching this movie,

463
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<v Speaker 4>because it's you know, Prometheus and Alien Covenant and a

464
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 4>lot of other alien movies have come out since Spielberg

465
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<v Speaker 4>attempted to do alien stuff, and I think that those

466
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<v Speaker 4>movies ask the question that this movie's asking better than

467
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 4>this movie asks it. And Steven Spielberg, in a lot

468
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<v Speaker 4>of ways, is the progenitor of this question in the

469
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<v Speaker 4>filmic language, which is what are the lengths you will

470
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<v Speaker 4>go to for your beliefs? I mean you mentioned it

471
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<v Speaker 4>in Dreyfus in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It

472
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<v Speaker 4>is his belief that powers.

473
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<v Speaker 3>Him to leave his family to you know what this means.

474
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<v Speaker 4>All of that is powered by belief, the singular belief

475
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<v Speaker 4>that there is something at the end of this path.

476
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<v Speaker 4>And by the end of the film, when we see

477
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<v Speaker 4>the aliens, we realize, oh, he was for fucking real

478
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and look, obviously we know because the movie gives it

479
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<v Speaker 4>away very early on, because Close Encounters are the third

480
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<v Speaker 4>kind of unlike, this film is not about hiding its hand,

481
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<v Speaker 4>it's about playing its hand. Very early on, we know

482
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<v Speaker 4>that there are aliens. We are made aware that aliens

483
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<v Speaker 4>are in fact real. And now I'm not saying that

484
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<v Speaker 4>this movie is ever like aliens real or not.

485
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<v Speaker 3>It's just right.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Yeahs Now, three minutes in when they finally watch some

487
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<v Speaker 2>of that footage, which and that's the most upsetting part

488
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<v Speaker 2>to me is that.

489
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was gonna say, I think that the thing

490
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<v Speaker 4>for me is the footage is the most arresting part

491
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<v Speaker 4>of them, because that feels like, well, if this were

492
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<v Speaker 4>to happen, which that was the other thing I said

493
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<v Speaker 4>to my friends nephew and we were leaving the theater,

494
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I do hope that I am alive

495
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 4>if this were to happen. I hope that I'm alive

496
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 4>for this to happen. I would genuinely like to be

497
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<v Speaker 4>part of the global consciousness that is involved in if

498
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<v Speaker 4>there were to be a disclosure, because you and I

499
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 4>both know that's the kind of.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Footage we would be fucking seeing.

501
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Is governments or government bodies torturing alien and torturing them

502
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<v Speaker 4>for the sole purpose of figuring out what makes them

503
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<v Speaker 4>tick or this, that and something else, and that is

504
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 4>the most successful part of them. Without a doubt and

505
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.119
<v Speaker 4>that should have been starting point for the movie, and

506
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:51.880
<v Speaker 4>it kind of feels like it was. But even something

507
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<v Speaker 4>like Signs does a better job in creating a world

508
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<v Speaker 4>where the aliens feel like they can exist within it.

509
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<v Speaker 4>This world that we're inhabiting with Disclosure Day, it doesn't

510
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<v Speaker 4>feel like there are aliens already in the world like

511
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<v Speaker 4>in Signs. It's like this, you know, there were weird

512
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 4>things already happening, and you know, strange things are afoot.

513
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 4>In this it's like all of a sudden, just one day.

514
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<v Speaker 4>And I like the idea of that that you know,

515
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.039
<v Speaker 4>we talked about it. I think we talked about this before,

516
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<v Speaker 4>like Star Trek Nemesis, like just one day, data is

517
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna die, like and that just happens to be today,

518
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<v Speaker 4>Like you don't get to pick the important days in

519
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 4>your life, They just happen. And I like the idea

520
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 4>of that with Disclosure Day, that it's just, you know,

521
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 4>a fucking Wednesday afternoon and here we go. Signs kind

522
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 4>of builds it up more, and I think for me,

523
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<v Speaker 4>I would prefer a movie building it up a little

524
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 4>bit more, giving us the idea that like there's been

525
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<v Speaker 4>a swell getting to this point of this thing happening,

526
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<v Speaker 4>and the movie doesn't really traffic in that when, like

527
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<v Speaker 4>you said, we live in a world where and look,

528
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<v Speaker 4>as someone who's had a scary you know, scary paranormal

529
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 4>supernatural podcast before, don't believe a goddamn thing the US

530
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 4>government leaks. Because it's the US government leaking it. Why

531
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>the fuck are you believing it? Like they're they will

532
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 4>only leak things that either benefit them or benefit them

533
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 4>the end of story. So I wish that there was

534
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<v Speaker 4>a better understanding of some of the ideas in the

535
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 4>movie from the people writing them. And David Kepp is

536
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 4>not one who writes bad things. He does are very

537
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 4>great things either. His track record's kind of all over

538
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 4>the place. But I would have thought that they would

539
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 4>have had more of a central idea here to go from,

540
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 4>because aliens as an idea is go anywhere. I mean,

541
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 4>we've seen every varietal of fucking alien movie since Spielberg

542
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of hung up the mantle on doing alien movies.

543
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<v Speaker 4>In an alien movie with voice by Seth Rogan for

544
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Fock's Sake, which is one of my favorite alien movies,

545
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 4>but it's just the aliens almost get lost in the

546
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 4>shuffle of their own, which to me and I think

547
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<v Speaker 4>you might agree, feels very contact.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, you already.

549
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 4>Said contact, but like to reiterate your point, like that's

550
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>a contact move, Like all right, aliens in the last

551
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 4>thirty seconds of the oh okay, but their presence should

552
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 4>have been felt throughout and it really isn't. And when

553
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 4>those scenes show up, like the Croft Circle scene in

554
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 4>the film, I want to understand what the fuck's going on,

555
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 4>not because I need it explained to me, but because

556
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 4>the movie's so goddamn abuse.

557
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, maybe you can help me when it comes

558
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>to speaking of obtus. I mentioned the whole thing of

559
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>how they're rebuilding Emily Blunt's house on a sound stage.

560
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I guess to help her unlock her memories, right, And

561
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>she does start to remember things. She flashes back to

562
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.839
<v Speaker 2>this moment when she was a child, and we see her,

563
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the table, the typical, you know, going

564
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>to be probed kind of thing, right, And there's this

565
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>kid next door, who I have to assume is Josh O'Connor.

566
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Where does he come from? Who is this kid? To her?

567
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Just a kid, just a kid.

568
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter his memories at all, it's just her memories.

569
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<v Speaker 4>Well, his memories had already been handled by that. That's

570
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 4>again the the implication that the movie makes is he

571
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 4>has been influenced by aliens for ten years. But I

572
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 4>guess in him being influenced by aliens for ten years,

573
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 4>there's never been the need to have what happened, what

574
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 4>happened to him reappraised, or they were waiting for someone

575
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 4>else possibly to show up. It's not explained. And again,

576
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 4>you and I are huge fans of all kinds of

577
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 4>challenging cinema. You know, I think someone on your Facebook

578
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 4>when you posted the thing about The Odyssey was like,

579
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 4>Chris Nolan makes high brow films for low brow audiences,

580
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 4>and it's not challenging films, but people who watch them

581
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 4>tend to seem to think that they're really challenging. This

582
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 4>movie is not challenging either. It's obtuse, it could have

583
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 4>been challenging. It could like like you said, like it's

584
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 4>it's instead of being challenging and kind of a we're

585
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 4>asking you to give a little bit because we're opening

586
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 4>that up to interpretation. The film just doesn't explain things.

587
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 4>And I think what they were going for is and

588
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 4>again with the with the abductee exp people have talked

589
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 4>about being on a bed in a spaceship and looking

590
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 4>over and there's just somebody else there. Who that person

591
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 4>is they do not know. Will they ever see them

592
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>again remains to be seen. Why was it Emily Blunt

593
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 4>and Josh O'Connor never explained, like you asked, Josh is

594
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 4>Josh O'Connor part and parcel to this? I mean, we

595
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 4>get the sense that he is because they say he is,

596
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 4>but the film never shows that he is, And saying

597
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 4>and showing are two very different, and that for me

598
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.119
<v Speaker 4>is kind of a big disconnect. Is I really don't

599
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 4>understand the importance of Emily Blunt and Josh O'Connor other

600
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 4>than because the movie told me so.

601
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think the movie.

602
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Does a very good job of giving me an understanding

603
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 4>of why them. And again it's just well just because, okay,

604
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 4>then fucking say that.

605
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll blow your mind one more time. How does Hugo

606
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 2>play into this?

607
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, Hugo just is essentially a whistle.

608
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Blow, but it seems like he's got mystical powers.

609
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 3>To me, No, no, no, he's just a whistle blow.

610
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>He's just a dude, okay, but dude, okay, but he

611
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>knows all of the stuff that Colin Firth can do,

612
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 2>because that's when he's like clear the set and then

613
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>those dumb assss walk back. I mean, I have a

614
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>real hard time with how dumb these people are sometimes

615
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>where it's like Josh goes through and like cleans up

616
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>the entire room, takes every little bit of evidence that

617
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they're in the Indiana Hotel or whatever, but then he's

618
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>holding on to a piece of paper that says that

619
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 2>so his girlfriend can see it with Colin Frost's eyes.

620
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>That I mean, it's just yeah, like you said, it's

621
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>over two hours long. Do we have to spend ten

622
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>minutes trying to run over her phone?

623
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Do we have to spend please?

624
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 4>Can you explain that that's what?

625
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Do we have to spend forty five minutes doing these

626
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 2>weird flashes in like Colin Firth at the breakfast table

627
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>with the Josh's girlfriend kind of thing. It's like this

628
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>scene is taking forever. Yes, I got it. She's digging

629
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>her cross into her hand. Okay, it's the whole faith

630
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>versus science kind of thing. I got it, But I

631
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>got it was five minutes into the scene, not forty

632
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>five minutes later. I mean, yes, it doesn't take forty

633
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>five minutes, but that scene goes on for an interminable length.

634
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<v Speaker 4>I would say that almost the conversation needs to progress

635
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 4>away from faith versus science to faith in faith versus

636
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 4>faith in science, because that should be the more interesting

637
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 4>conversation because for a lot of people, and I wouldn't say, like,

638
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 4>science is a religion, but if you boil religion down

639
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>to a set of beliefs that your life is dictated by.

640
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 4>For a lot of people, science is a belief system

641
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 4>that your life is dictated by. No different than religion.

642
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 4>It's just again, tangible evidence is different than belief in

643
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 4>lack of evidence. I mean again, you can't see God,

644
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 4>so you can't prove that he doesn't exist. You can't

645
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>prove a negative. It's kind of always been the issue

646
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 4>with the conversation around faith and belief is can't prove

647
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 4>a negative. We don't see God. We just God is

648
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 4>in ev There are some poignant moments in the movie

649
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 4>that I don't like. There's a scene in a diner

650
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 4>with Joshua Connor's girlf where she's talking to a nun

651
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 4>and She's like, if if you saw that a higher

652
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 4>power existed, it wouldn't scare you away? And she goes, no,

653
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 4>why would I assume that God only gave us this

654
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 4>and nobody else anything else?

655
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Go down that.

656
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 4>Rabbit hole for five minutes longer, please, please, Like, that's

657
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 4>an interesting direction to go, especially when you have someone

658
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 4>of the Jewish faith, like Steven Spielberg, who's not even Christian.

659
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 4>Mind you, no characters in this film are Jewish. They're

660
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 4>all Christians seemingly, which I also find is very interesting

661
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 4>because so much of the alien phenomenon experience and the

662
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 4>alien phenomenon experience reaction is through the lens of Christianity

663
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 4>and no other religion. But I'll be goddamned if there's

664
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 4>not representations of large men or aliens in other religions,

665
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 4>in Hinduism, in Shintoism, in Jianism, in Islam. I mean you,

666
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.920
<v Speaker 4>if you boil it down, you can say, well, I mean,

667
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, these people came down from the clouds on

668
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 4>their clouds. What does that sound like to someone in

669
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 4>our dan It sounds like a fucking alien writing down

670
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 4>on a spaceship. Just on the base level. They don't

671
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 4>do any of that, there's so much we're not living

672
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen seventy four. We're the only thing that's been

673
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 4>written is Eric von Danikin's Chariots of the Gods. We

674
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 4>are now living in a world ripe and full of

675
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 4>interest in aliens and interest in the phenomenon and the

676
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.920
<v Speaker 4>subculture around the phenomenon. And for me, the biggest failing

677
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 4>of the movie is it doesn't it seems to kind

678
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 4>of rankle at the fact that it's an alien It

679
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 4>doesn't really want to be an alien movie, even though

680
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it's clearly a movie about alien and that for me,

681
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 4>like I said at the opening of this episode, reminds

682
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 4>me of all these horror movies where it's like, it

683
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 4>follows it's a movie about a slasher, but the Slashers

684
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 4>is a sit in for STDs.

685
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't really.

686
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Want to fucking listen to that conversation. I want to

687
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>listen at thesis for an hour and a half. And

688
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 4>this movie has that same issue where I'm just like,

689
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 4>you don't really seem to have anything interesting to say,

690
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 4>and if you're gonna have Steven Spielberg be an alien movie.

691
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 4>In twenty twenty six, when the world is as primed

692
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 4>as ever to have this actually happen, and you don't

693
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 4>have anything interesting to say, Why did you bother especially Spielberg,

694
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 4>Like of all people, he's to your point, Fableman's came

695
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 4>out four years. He's not cranking him out every year

696
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 4>like Benny fucking Soft.

697
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 2>You know how we found out years ago that Taco

698
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Bell doesn't actually serve meat in their tacos, that it's

699
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of slurry of meats, like products rights soy.

700
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 4>It's like soy protein, right, It's like, yeah, yeah.

701
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what this feels like. This feels like a bunch

702
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff scraped off the floor and thrown into a

703
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>burrito and just saying, Okay, enjoy it. You know, this

704
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>is all the leftover shit that I've had kind of

705
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>cooking in all of these movies for the longest time.

706
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Here it is, I'm going to reheat it in the

707
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 2>microwave for you.

708
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 4>And what's shocking to me is that Spielberg is not

709
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 4>the kind of director who I expect that from. He's

710
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 4>not the kind of director that I expect is going

711
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:06.440
<v Speaker 4>to hew closely to other people's ideas. It feels like

712
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 4>he's always had something to say as a director, even

713
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 4>if he's not the one writing the script. You and

714
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 4>I both know Spielberg exerts a small level of control

715
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 4>or big level of control, or some control over creativity.

716
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's his production company. It's right there, amblin,

717
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 4>right on right on them. So I'm in agreement with you,

718
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Like it's just not alien enough, and it almost it

719
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 4>smacks of not being alien enough just from the trailer.

720
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>The trailer is.

721
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Afraid to have it be an alien movie, and then

722
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 4>the movie itself just is not interested in being an

723
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 4>alien movie. It's a movie about the machinations of people

724
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 4>and whether or not people are ready to learn about aliens.

725
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 4>It's not about the alien. And I have a question

726
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 4>for you. I'm curious, does Josh O'Connor not look like

727
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 4>Lee Harvey Oswald when they show that photo of him

728
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 4>when the screen he totally does The'm like it's supposed

729
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 4>to be a Patsy. He looks just like Oswald that

730
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 4>photo of Oswald. I was like, it's supposed to be Oswald, right,

731
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Like it's got to be. You're leaning into the conspiracy

732
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 4>theory stuff at all. Like I just I wish there

733
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 4>was more connecting of the things like, oh, there's Roswell.

734
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Why why not? Why not?

735
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 4>You want to be clever, why not mention something that

736
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 4>happened in California in the eighties or something in the

737
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 4>seventies like tie close Encounters into this tie et it right?

738
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Why not? Why not?

739
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 4>Literally, at this fucking point, if you're probably never gonna

740
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 4>make another alien movie again, why not?

741
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

742
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 4>I genuinely could not, for the life of me understand

743
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 4>why they took such a weak thesis and stance on

744
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 4>the alien conversation when you don't make a movie like

745
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 4>this without having that, without having something to say. And

746
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 4>David Kep again, like he's not always writing middle of

747
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the road stuff like Jurassic World Rebirth. He has you know,

748
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 4>he's not an Akiva Goldsman type where it's like he's

749
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 4>never written a single goddamn good thing in his dire existence,

750
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Like David Kep worked on Jurassic Park with Steven Spielbert

751
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 4>a book that is as good as the movie and

752
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>vice versa.

753
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Boy, yeah, boy, I disagree with that heavily.

754
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Which one I really like the other?

755
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I really like the book of Jurassic Park. I'm not

756
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a big fan of the movie of Jurassic Park. I

757
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>felt like the they really shit out that movie, and

758
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

759
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 4>It's different, it's very different than the book. They can

760
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 4>exist mutually exclusive.

761
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

762
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean I get it because I think the book

763
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 4>has so much more to say, and I think Michael

764
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Crichton is such a like a great techno.

765
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Sci fi writer. I mean his stuff.

766
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've read like pretty much all of his

767
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 4>books at this point, Michael Crichton, and he's just he's

768
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 4>a great writer. He always has been. And it's hard

769
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 4>to adapt someone else's work who has something to say.

770
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 4>When you don't necessarily have something to say, you're not come.

771
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 4>You gotta if you're gonna make a movie like this,

772
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 4>you gotta come to the table with an opinion about it.

773
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure I want to have a conversation with

774
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 4>someone who says I don't really care about aliens. Okay,

775
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 4>well fuck you, I don't want to talk to you

776
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 4>about aliens, and like that, conversations literally gonna go nowhere.

777
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Like it's like it's like the movie conversation. If I

778
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 4>say to someone I love watching movies, and here's my

779
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 4>favorite movie, and someone say, well, I don't watch a

780
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of movies. It's like, okay, that Wiley coyote moment

781
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 4>where I've just run into a wall and that's it.

782
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Where does one go further from here? And this movie

783
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 4>does not add to the conversation.

784
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>No, no, not a bit. Yeah, just there are so

785
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>many better movies that he's done. And yeah, I was

786
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>just reminding myself because I was like, David Kepp, I

787
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>really dislike some stuff that David Kep did. It was

788
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Trigger Effect the first movie I think he directed. I mean,

789
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>he has directed a couple of good things, like Stir

790
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of Echos I liked a lot, but then he's doing

791
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Secret Window and he's doing Mordecai and stuff. It's like,

792
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like just taste level through the basement.

793
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 4>I almost said Mordecai because I was like, I'm pretty

794
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>sure he's the guy who directed Mordecai. Yeah, he is,

795
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 4>in fact the guy I directed Mordecai. So that's the

796
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 4>guy who directed ghost Town. You remember that movie with

797
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Ricky Gervais where he's a dentist that can see ghosts.

798
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I remember that or the one

799
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>where he then flying.

800
00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 3>You mean the same movie.

801
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I did see this because yeah, Greg Knnear's in this,

802
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and I just remember how much I disliked Greg knear Well.

803
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 4>You know what they say, It's not like David Kep

804
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 4>is one third of the writing trio that brought us

805
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>twenty Seventeen's.

806
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>The Mummy or anything.

807
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, that only had three writers on it. You

808
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 2>would think it would have like.

809
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Fifteen, shocking and one of those writers is Chris McCrory,

810
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 4>which is just well pill.

811
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, because McCrory, I mean somewhere Tom Cruise has

812
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 2>a contract sign in blood that's McCrory's blood, just like

813
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I own you.

814
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Now be the same thing that Travolta has with the

815
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 4>Church of Scientology, right.

816
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. It used to be like Robert Town

817
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 2>had that agreement with Cruise, and I think there's one

818
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>other writer and then it's like, now it's McCrory, and

819
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like I own you. You work for me now.

820
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>I watched a David Kep film earlier this year that

821
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed. He wrote Cold Storage, which was based

822
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 4>on his book of the same name, and.

823
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good. It's pretty good.

824
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.599
<v Speaker 4>It has Joe Keery, it has Liam Neeson, it has

825
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Bacon's daughter, it's zombie ob Jason c Last of

826
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Us Jason. It's fun, it's a fun action sci fi

827
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 4>horror comedy, and it well check you should. I think

828
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 4>you would enjoy it. I genuinely think you would enjoy it.

829
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 4>And I know you're not a Stranger Things guy, so

830
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 4>it would be a good way to see Joe Keery

831
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 4>in something where you can kind of.

832
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I watched four out of five seasons of Stranger Things.

833
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Just watch the last one.

834
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought you did not watch Stranger Things at all.

835
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I've watched them all. I did talk

836
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>to you all about Eddie or whatever the guy's name is,

837
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 2>shredding to Metallica and Master Puppets and all that.

838
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, butter, really, the first time I've ever heard you

839
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 4>talk about Stranger.

840
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well it's just because it's not that impressive.

841
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Definitely not after what do we want to say season three?

842
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, again, my leedge varies after the first season,

843
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 4>but again kept ken Wright exciting, fun, interesting film.

844
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I want to.

845
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Focus on something about this movie that you mentioned. Why

846
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 4>were there action scenes.

847
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:09.159
<v Speaker 3>In this movie?

848
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Nose, these are not action people? You know, it's not

849
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>like they're either one of these is a secret ag agent.

850
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a meteorologist, and it's a computer hacker that was

851
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>in prison. I mean maybe he learned how to fight

852
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 2>in prison and stuff.

853
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Well no, he was like well, he was like a

854
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 4>cybersecurity guy. It's supposed to be like a Snowden type, right, yeah.

855
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But he got thrown in federal jail like zero cool

856
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>from hackers.

857
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, I guess you know, if we take again

858
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 4>a thousand yard look at this movie, there are two

859
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 4>things about this movie that are successful. And it ain't

860
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Emily O'Connor and Josh Blunt. It's not either one of

861
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 4>them with their names switched. It's Colin Firth and Coleman

862
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 4>to me, right, and maybe not even Colin Firth for you,

863
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:00.920
<v Speaker 4>but Coleman to make a like the best part of

864
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 4>this movie, he is with doubt and my god.

865
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Well he seems to be the only person who knows

866
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is going on.

867
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 4>You know what, the movie had been made ten years ago,

868
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 4>he would have been Morgan, it would have been Morgan Freeman.

869
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 4>It's very like Freeman coded that, like, oh yeah, the

870
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 4>way he's dressed, the way he looks he doesn't look

871
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 4>like Joe Jackson. Which that's the movie i'd watch, is

872
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 4>where he's playing Joe. He's in the Joe Jackson makeup

873
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 4>and everything, but it's just.

874
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Going, oh that Joe Jackson. Okay.

875
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 3>I kept thinking of the shootless Joe Jackson.

876
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 2>H No, the Hey girl stepping out Joe Jackson, you know,

877
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the issue really going out with him Joe Jackson.

878
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

879
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 4>So I have something to tell you that's probably more

880
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 4>shocking than anything disclosed and disclosure day. I watched the

881
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson film last week, and god damn if I

882
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 4>did not have a great time watching Wow, it is

883
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of feel what you know what, I guarantee

884
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 4>you you would have way more fun watching that movie

885
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 4>than you had watching this movie. And that movie might

886
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 4>actually surprise you in terms of how weirdly. I don't know,

887
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 4>it's weird because it almost feels less problematic to watch

888
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 4>a movie about Michael Jackson and watching the real man sing,

889
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 4>because I know that that's just a fake person, not

890
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 4>the real Verson. But Coleman Domingo is the best part

891
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 4>of that the second best part of that movie, other

892
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 4>than Jermaine Jackson's son, who plays Michael Jackson more convincingly

893
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 4>than well other than Joseph finds It. But Coleman Domingo

894
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 4>is really good in that movie under his like Dick

895
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Tracy villain makeup, and he's the best part of this

896
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 4>movie here, like not even close to anybody else. Like

897
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Emily Blunt, I do not care for her. Whatever she

898
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 4>does when he is acting. She's not my bad.

899
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I like Emily Blunt. Yeah, I like her a lot

900
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 2>in speaking of Tom Cruise, I really like her in

901
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Edge of Tomorrow.

902
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I enjoy her as her energy. I think

903
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 4>that's the only thing I've seen her in that I

904
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 4>like her in.

905
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's I mean, I was a little disappointed that

906
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Alan Firth has like maybe a Latino guy and a

907
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>woman of color and an Asian lady like at his

908
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Beck and Call, but they can't be the main characters.

909
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.880
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got you know, Hugo is the black guy,

910
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.719
<v Speaker 2>but he's not really a main character. It's like we

911
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 2>still have to keep with these white leads and these

912
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.000
<v Speaker 2>white leads who are British, but they're all playing Americans.

913
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, their American accents work really well, a lot

914
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>better than like ben A a Cumberbatch or somebody. But it's

915
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>just like, all right, like I can't put a person

916
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of color in charge in any of these Okay, that's

917
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>that's fine.

918
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Well cole Min Dibigo's in charge of the other side

919
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 4>of the coin, but that's about it.

920
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

921
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm surprised we've gone this long talking without really

922
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>calling out the star of this film, which is Kinneth

923
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Tiger showing up.

924
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh yes, thank you, thank you. Mike White.

925
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 4>When he showed up, I was like, I know we're

926
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna be talking about Kenneth Tigar Barney Miller connection.

927
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, thank you, thank you.

928
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was amazing that he's you know, that whole

929
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 2>thing that they're doing, and I kind of wish they

930
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>had done more of that where she can appear or

931
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like grab people's thoughts out of their

932
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>heads and trying it is. It is such the interesting part,

933
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and like way more interesting than like the cloak of

934
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 2>invisibility part that they have. And I'm just like, if

935
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm standing there in that warehouse again, like maybe I'm

936
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>just trigger happy because I would just start shooting like

937
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 2>noises that I'm hearing and hopefully I pick off some

938
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>of these guys, because it's like you obviously you can

939
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>hear that something is going on. You know that that's happening.

940
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>You see them on the fleer thing.

941
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 4>He's like, there's people right here, something right right exactly,

942
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 4>open fire exactly exactly.

943
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Even when they're at the farmhouse and Josh's girlfriend's got

944
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the knife and everything, it's like, okay, that's great and everything.

945
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>But you guys, you see this car right here, like

946
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you're pushing your hands up against the window, like hey stop.

947
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, take your gun out and shoot this guy.

948
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Like what is the problem here? Like if we if

949
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 2>they stole government information, I don't think that the government

950
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>would have any problem murdering these people in cold blood.

951
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 4>We've seen the government murder people in cold blood for less.

952
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, just by saying like it's okay, you know,

953
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>no problem, dude, or like you know, selling like hey,

954
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>back off of that lady, Okay, Yeah, we're going to

955
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 2>murder you here in the streets.

956
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Right.

957
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 4>So, And I think to me, to go back to

958
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 4>what you said at the opening of this episode, it's

959
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 4>hard to watch a movie like this in the cynical

960
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 4>times we live in. Yeah, it is, because that's the

961
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 4>shit that makes me like wonder, like, did you take

962
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 4>a If you're gonna make a movie like this, you

963
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 4>got to take a temperature check of the world around

964
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 4>You got to take a temperature check of the world.

965
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 3>As it is now.

966
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 4>And this movie feels like it takes place in twenty

967
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 4>and sixteen. It doesn't feel like this is taking place

968
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 4>in the world we live in now. And look, if

969
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 4>that's the case.

970
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Other than bringing on the brink of World War three,

971
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, yeah.

972
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 4>Sure, but the movie again like, oh, Russia and North

973
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Korea and the United States. Okay, it's so boilerplate. It's

974
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 4>not exciting, it's not original, it's not interesting. It feels

975
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 4>like a lesser movie. It feels like a movie that's

976
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Spielberg that it feels like, it feels like a movie

977
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that someone would make trying to make us feel This

978
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 4>movie reminds me of Super eight.

979
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, especially the fucking lens flare everywhere in this thing.

980
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Foster for the movie.

981
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I know it's supposed to be like the the eye,

982
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 4>the retina of the human eye, but it looks like lens. Yeah,

983
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 4>and don't you love that? Drew Strewsen poster that they

984
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 4>attempted to put together because his corpse was not cold enough.

985
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Like that poster is just AI generated. It's what it

986
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 4>looks like anyways, It's not that same Drew Strewsen look

987
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 4>and Drew Strews and Field. But yet none of these

988
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 4>movies have lived up to that level of timelessness. But

989
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 4>so many of those Steven Spielberg movies that smack really

990
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 4>smack like Jaws. You said, Jaws still works. I've watched

991
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 4>in the last six months. I've watched it twice the

992
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 4>last two years. It's amazing. It's justuinely still an amazing film.

993
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the most egregious things for me

994
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>when I'm watching a Jurassic Park or Jurassic World rebirth

995
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and they are just copping from Jaws and the original

996
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Jurassic Park, but just copping from Jaws all over the place.

997
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>When when she's shooting that creature and stuff, I'm just like,

998
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 2>are you going to shoot a barrel at this? And

999
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.480
<v Speaker 2>how many bells? Exactly? I'm just like, this is wretched.

1000
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I did a little time check on

1001
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that scene with the girl and Colin Firth nine minutes,

1002
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.440
<v Speaker 2>so not fifty or forty five, like I said, but

1003
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 2>nine solid minutes of that conversation.

1004
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Nine minutes too long. I mean, that's the other thing.

1005
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 4>And I you know, you mentioned having the two leads

1006
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 4>in opposite angles of the movie for you know, half

1007
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 4>of the movie's runtime. I'm also really uninterested in a

1008
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 4>movie that has your villain just chilling in a chair.

1009
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Most of the movie. What is this golf film? Like?

1010
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Straight up?

1011
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I love, love, love Colin Firth.

1012
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 3>He's an actor.

1013
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 4>He's one of my favorite British actors. He's kind of

1014
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 4>up there with Hugh Grant in terms of just like

1015
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I will watch something that he is in because he

1016
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 4>is in it and his presence often makes the film better.

1017
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 4>This is not one of those movies. I mean, he's

1018
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 4>good in the movie, but he's just like gritting his

1019
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 4>teeth most of the time and just calling out where

1020
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 4>people are. And it's not, Thankfully, I will say, it's

1021
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 4>not like, oh, this is a Trump character and this

1022
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 4>is an Elon character. There's there's thankfully none of that true.

1023
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I don't want to say, like I

1024
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 4>kind of wish there was, but how are you making

1025
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 4>a movie like this in this day and age without

1026
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 4>having something a kid. All right, well, team failed because

1027
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 4>it did that, But this movie could have leaned into

1028
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 4>it a little bit.

1029
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 2>They try to say that he became a dickhead after

1030
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>his wife died three years ago, but I don't think

1031
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.199
<v Speaker 2>he was torturing aliens three years ago. I think it

1032
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was longer than that. So I think he's I always

1033
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 2>spent a deckhead, and just the wife thing made him

1034
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 2>even worse.

1035
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that's yeah.

1036
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand trying to make a character sympathetic. He

1037
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 4>just should have been a villain because the sympathy that

1038
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 4>would give his character doesn't go anywhere. And you get

1039
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:18.400
<v Speaker 4>that scene at the end of the film where like

1040
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Coleman Domingo puts his hand on Colin for his shoulder,

1041
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.880
<v Speaker 4>and you're like, oh, this is the moment of kind

1042
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.880
<v Speaker 4>of the two halves coming together, because you know, Colin

1043
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 4>Friz just says, well, I can't do anything about it,

1044
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 4>and that's it.

1045
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 3>He could have his people shoot them. I just I guess.

1046
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess for me, if if you're gonna do this

1047
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 4>movie this way, why not lean more into Colin Firth

1048
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.519
<v Speaker 4>being conflicted about it, because that's what they're getting at

1049
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming, I mean, Colin Fritz would have told him

1050
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 4>at any point to kill them, and he doesn't. I

1051
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 4>mean he he doesn't send that guy after Emily Blunt

1052
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 4>and Josh O'Connor to kill him on the train. That

1053
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 4>guy just goes of his own volition. And I feel

1054
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 4>like that encounter should have happened earlier in the movie,

1055
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.440
<v Speaker 4>and Colin Firth should have been you know, like the

1056
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 4>no stop way like that should have been the energy

1057
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 4>he's giving where it's he's hampering them, but he's not

1058
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 4>really putting. He's not putting the hurdle eight feet off

1059
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 4>the ground. He's putting it two feet off the ground,

1060
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 4>do you know what I mean? And I feel like

1061
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 4>that if you, if you go down that rabbit hole,

1062
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 4>that explains why he doesn't have them aim and take

1063
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 4>fire on these people. But the movie doesn't get us there.

1064
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.159
<v Speaker 4>I get myself there, and that's me doing the heavy

1065
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 4>lifting for a film that cost one hundred and.

1066
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Twenty million dollars.

1067
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 4>It should it should get us there. And I guess

1068
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe Kep thought he got us there, maybe Spielberg thought

1069
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 4>he got us there, But I don't think the film

1070
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 4>gets where it's trying to get, but it sure thinks

1071
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it does.

1072
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, No, I just I don't I don't buy it.

1073
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't buy any of this, and especially I don't

1074
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>buy the end of it. And I'm just like, oh, okay, yeah,

1075
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like I really missed the bus when

1076
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 2>it came to this.

1077
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Well.

1078
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that this is gonna be a movie

1079
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 4>that hangs around in the public consciousness very long. The

1080
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 4>only people that were in the theater when I was

1081
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 4>seeing it on a Monday afternoon, granted it's a Monday afternoon.

1082
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 4>We're a handful of elderly people. I don't know if

1083
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Steven Spielberg is a name that gets people out to

1084
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 4>the movie theaters anymore, especially people that are younger than

1085
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 4>me by ten years, in their mid twenties. I don't

1086
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 4>know if someone who's twenty four would go. You know,

1087
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm really rushing out to see that latest Spielberg if I.

1088
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Saw it on I saw it on a Saturday, maybe

1089
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 2>second screening of the day. It was like eleven fifteen

1090
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 2>in the morning. It was my wife and I and

1091
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 2>one other person in the whole theater.

1092
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 3>I believe it.

1093
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 4>I believe it because I don't know who Steven Spielberg's

1094
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 4>making films for anymore, because I don't think he's making

1095
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 4>films for the people that are going to the movies

1096
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.199
<v Speaker 4>to the tune of back Rooms or obsession. I mean,

1097
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 4>and he's not like I went saw Backrooms two weekends ago,

1098
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 4>did an episode on it. It is a great film

1099
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 4>in a lot of ways. It's a film not made

1100
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 4>for someone my age, but it's made to get someone

1101
00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 4>my age to understand something that I've never been exposed.

1102
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 4>This movie is not exposing us to anything we're not

1103
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 4>already being exposed to all the time. It doesn't do

1104
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 4>it in an interesting way. And I'm you know, looking

1105
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 4>at Spielberg's filmography. If you were born in let's say,

1106
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.639
<v Speaker 4>let's say you were born ten years after I was. Okay,

1107
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.320
<v Speaker 4>so say you were born in the year two thousand,

1108
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 4>what is your Spielberg movie that you would watch that's

1109
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 4>come out in your lifetime that you'd be like, well,

1110
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 4>this is like it's gonna be something that was released

1111
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 4>in almost a decade.

1112
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Before you were born.

1113
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 4>If you were born in two thousand, I mean, Jurassic

1114
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Park came out in nineteen ninety three. What has come

1115
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 4>out since the two thousands, like since two thousand. Baby,

1116
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 4>catch me if you can.

1117
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that is still it.

1118
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1119
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Who the fuck likes Tintin other than like maybe you,

1120
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.079
<v Speaker 4>But I know I liked it. I don't know if

1121
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 4>you've seen it.

1122
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 3>It's funny.

1123
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't seen it. Yeah, if you it's good. Yeah.

1124
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to the end of the movie

1125
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 2>again and just talk about this is supposed to be well, no,

1126
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that. I'm not going to say this

1127
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to be Emily Blunt's big break because she's

1128
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 2>finally in the newscaster or chair. All that stuff is

1129
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>completely off the table by the end of the movie.

1130
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 2>But we are broadcasting out to all of these different affiliates.

1131
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 2>It's being bumped for everything. We have the one woman,

1132
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm curious if she's a real news anchor or not.

1133
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Who's reacting to all of the footage. I'm almost curious

1134
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 2>if that was just they showed her stuff and said, okay,

1135
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 2>just talk through this, like do the thing that news

1136
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 2>anchors do, which is talking through the footage of what

1137
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>you're seeing. Because she is the blandest performance I think

1138
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in a movie, like especially a movie

1139
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 2>like you said that cost over one hundred million dollars,

1140
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what are you doing? Like is there awe?

1141
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Is their shock? Is there any human emotions going on?

1142
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>It just feels very like and now I'm seeing this

1143
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and I'm seeing that. Is that just because she's a

1144
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 2>newscaster and can't give human emotion?

1145
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 4>I And again I go back to what I said

1146
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:01.159
<v Speaker 4>at the opening, which is everyone is acting really nonplus

1147
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.159
<v Speaker 4>by the fact that aliens. And that for me is like,

1148
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.440
<v Speaker 4>this is a movie about aliens coming into our lives

1149
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 4>at a time that we are like technologically advancing quickly

1150
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 4>and even with AI and other tools that we can

1151
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 4>use on a daily basis.

1152
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. And I'd like how they had to say, like,

1153
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 2>we've checked this, this is not.

1154
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 3>A I right, like fun.

1155
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 4>I like that in this day and age, the newscasters

1156
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 4>is like, well we're seeing aliens here. It's like you

1157
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 4>would not be reacting that car to aliens.

1158
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>What I mean, this reminds me so much of twenty ten,

1159
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 2>the year we make contact, where it's like the Earth is,

1160
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the brink of war. You've got that

1161
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 2>awesome cover of time that has Arthur C. Clark and

1162
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Coopbrick across from him, and one's playing the American lead

1163
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and the other ones the Russian premiere kind of thing.

1164
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 2>And you have all of these conflicts going on between

1165
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 2>the Americans and the Russians out in space, and just

1166
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 2>how silly it is that they are having these conflicts

1167
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 2>so many thousands of millions of miles away from the Earth.

1168
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.719
<v Speaker 2>But then when like they turn Jupiter into another sun,

1169
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, now I can understand people like putting

1170
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.679
<v Speaker 2>down their weapons and being like what the fuck? Man, Like,

1171
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this is way too big. I still don't get that

1172
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 2>from this. I don't get the yeah we saw seven

1173
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.239
<v Speaker 2>dots disappear under the water. Wow, Yeah, let's let's stop

1174
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 2>all of our nuclear war, right.

1175
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1176
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.360
<v Speaker 4>There's just the level of what this would mean to

1177
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 4>humanity versus what the movie thinks it means humanity is

1178
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 4>not there's not a the level is not met. You know,

1179
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.599
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, if you and we haven't talked

1180
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 4>about this, I don't know, maybe you have not seen this.

1181
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 4>The Spielberg alien thing that I think is really the

1182
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 4>best alien thing that he's done is taken. But that's

1183
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 4>because it's a mini series and it's given like ten

1184
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 4>episodes to kind of breathe and exist and tie into

1185
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 4>real things while creating its own mythology.

1186
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>And is that the one where the alien calls up

1187
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and he says, I have a certain set of skills.

1188
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Right it is? It is?

1189
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right? That I have seen, but I haven't

1190
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.360
<v Speaker 2>seen this mini series you're talking about.

1191
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.559
<v Speaker 4>Taking is very good. I mean, he didn't direct it,

1192
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 4>but he's directly involved with the creation of it.

1193
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And didn't he produce like the one hundred or one

1194
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of those shows as well?

1195
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I think no, I think this is probably the show.

1196
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think though, well, I know he has produced

1197
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of he has on a lot of things.

1198
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. I thought they were really messing with

1199
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the universal logo when they pulled back and it's the

1200
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 2>moon and I was like, oh wait, no, it was

1201
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 2>just the logo, Okay.

1202
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Ambling yeah.

1203
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Is this Steven Spielberg's last film? And if it is

1204
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 4>his last film, is this a worthy sendoff for a

1205
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 4>director of his cow?

1206
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe this will be his last film. I

1207
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 2>think he still has a few more in him. I

1208
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 2>can't see him doing much more than making films. Yes,

1209
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>he's definitely slowed down a lot over the last few years,

1210
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean the guy was putting out two

1211
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.159
<v Speaker 2>films a year for the longest dan time. It was

1212
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:03.360
<v Speaker 2>like just a wild to see that. But yeah, he's

1213
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven years old. Now, I think he can take

1214
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 2>a little little bit of a break. It's all right,

1215
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't have to be pushing all the time.

1216
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:16.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I can see him still do one or

1217
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 2>two more things before he's gone. I mean, I would

1218
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:19.840
<v Speaker 2>love it if it was a lot more.

1219
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.119
<v Speaker 4>I would have said the same thing about David Lynch,

1220
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 4>like I you know, I would love to see more

1221
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 4>from Moore. Would have loved to have seen more from

1222
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 4>David Lynch. But I can accept if Twin Peaks three

1223
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 4>is his final thing. I would not want to accept

1224
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:32.760
<v Speaker 4>that this is Stielbert.

1225
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that there was a Minority Report TV show?

1226
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was on Fox in the mid to late

1227
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 4>two thousands, Is that right.

1228
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I must have watched that for the episode

1229
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 2>we did, yeah, twenty fifteen. Yeah, wow, Falling Skies.

1230
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.159
<v Speaker 4>He was a producer of That's what it was, which

1231
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 4>is what the Noah Wiley Alien show than Noah Wiley.

1232
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I do remember that one's hit and

1233
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that's when they were in like Saint Louis.

1234
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 4>Maybe thing that and it's like post apocalyptic Aliens or something.

1235
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1236
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, can we talk about the real thing about this movie.

1237
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 4>That's honestly the biggest disappointment. They got John Williams to

1238
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 4>score this film.

1239
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I kept wondering because it was just so

1240
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 2>John Williams throughout the whole thing, and I was like,

1241
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 2>is this him? I thought he retired.

1242
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.519
<v Speaker 4>He did, but then he's come back like three times, right,

1243
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 4>because he came back for something else, But he didn't

1244
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 4>come back for that Indiana Jones movie in quotation rights,

1245
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 4>which I've you know, the funniest thing about that Indiana

1246
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 4>Jones movie. Spielberg didn't direct it, And I kind of

1247
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 4>forgot that he didn't direct it because it feels like

1248
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 4>a lesser Steven Spielberg movie in like every shape, form

1249
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 4>and fashion, other than the fact that it's shockingly somehow

1250
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 4>better or some somehow not better than Crystal Skull.

1251
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Isle of Destiny is the worst Indiana j still.

1252
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, John Williams has come back for Fableman's Indiana Jones

1253
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:58.239
<v Speaker 4>and Disclosure Day. So he did come back for Indiana Jones.

1254
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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was Giacchino who did Indiana Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have said, you were right. Yeah, yeah. I

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01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 2>feel a little bad for the guy. You know, every

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01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 2>time he thinks he's out, Scoolbert pulls them back in.

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01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.760
<v Speaker 2>We've got this montage at the end going back and

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01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 2>forth between the footage of that's being aired, people looking

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01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 2>at it, all this kind of stuff. I got really

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01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 2>upset when they had a shot of I think it's

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01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>people on an airplane watching stuff, and I'm like, who

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01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 2>whoa whoa whoa bo. No, No, you don't get signal

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01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.960
<v Speaker 2>up there, and you shouldn't be watching that stuff. Put

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01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 2>away your phones.

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01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.079
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like everybody had their phone Continental.

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01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.199
<v Speaker 3>If you're on a Continental flight now they have like

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01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 3>TV on.

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01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.559
<v Speaker 2>They do have TV on the air, but I'd be

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01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 2>watching on the seatpack rather than watching it on my phone.

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01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean you can watch stuff on Southwest. You can

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01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 4>on their app. You can watch the same stuff on

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01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 4>your phone that you can on the screen. I don't

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01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 4>know if I mean again as if you fly Southwest. Yeah,

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01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.880
<v Speaker 4>but I think it's more I think what's more funny

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01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 4>is to go back to the reactions of everybody. Everyone

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01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 4>is just so fun nonplused. I know that they're making

1280
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.119
<v Speaker 4>this like face of shock and surprise and bewilderment, but

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01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.199
<v Speaker 4>that's not the real reaction people giving.

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01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:14.159
<v Speaker 2>If this, it's the famous Spielberg moment of awe, but

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01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 2>just stretched out across all of humanity.

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01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:20.039
<v Speaker 4>I suppose boy, he checked that box.

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01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 3>He really did.

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01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, And the moment that the

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01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:26.480
<v Speaker 2>actual alien shows up at the very end of the movie,

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01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, oh, are we gonna go without actually

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01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 2>seeing an alien other than in her flashback? No, no,

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01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.039
<v Speaker 2>we'll get that, And just looking at the creature design,

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01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking, like, I don't know, the galaxy is

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01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.960
<v Speaker 2>on a Ryan's belt, you know. I just kept thinking, like,

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01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 2>of better alien movies, other alien movies I would rather

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01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:46.880
<v Speaker 2>be watching than this one.

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01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Like Close Encounters of the Third kind.

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01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Like Close Encounters are the third kind. I mean, it's

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01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.320
<v Speaker 2>basically that at the end of this and then I

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01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of feel bad. This alien seems like he's really

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01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:56.559
<v Speaker 2>having a hard time.

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01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 2>He's in this like wheelchair and gets stood up, and

1302
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 2>then when he trying to stand up fully. It's just

1303
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of like Rickety and stuff. I'm like, is this

1304
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 2>guy like from the original Roswell Crash or what.

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01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.960
<v Speaker 3>The name dropping Roswell does not do enough? I'm sorry.

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01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the alien at the end of the movie God

1307
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:18.800
<v Speaker 4>completely unnecessary. Again, I understand the moment that they're trying

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01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 4>to get to, but what ultimately is the message of

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01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 4>the movie? Is it that humanity should be more empathetic

1310
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 4>with one another and listen to one another? Is that's

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01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 4>the message the movie's trying to get across.

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01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming empathy is a weakness. Haven't we learned that

1313
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 2>from the World's First Trillionaire?

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01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean to be fair and you will laugh.

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01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they show at your movie theater

1316
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 4>before you watch the film, but they showed a advertisement

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01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 4>for the rebranded Department of War, which we have a

1318
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.239
<v Speaker 4>strength through power, whatever the hell the fucking branding was,

1319
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.679
<v Speaker 4>and then having to listen to Boso one and Boso

1320
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 4>two shill their bullshit for thirty seconds to then pivot

1321
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.760
<v Speaker 4>to a movie where it's about the world on the

1322
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 4>brink of war and disaster and only the aliens can

1323
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.000
<v Speaker 4>save us. Like, what, man, can you imagine how triggered

1324
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.320
<v Speaker 4>right wingers must have been at the idea that aliens

1325
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:14.360
<v Speaker 4>can save us, but the kind extraterrestrial kind.

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01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, not the ones from outside of our country.

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01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Right right?

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's you know, empathy is Empathy should be

1329
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:25.639
<v Speaker 4>the language of the universe. Empathy is the most important

1330
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.280
<v Speaker 4>thing that I think we can have for one another,

1331
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 4>especially now with the world being the way that it

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01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 4>is and everybody being so amped up all the time

1333
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 4>and just ready and willing to jump all over each

1334
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 4>other at a moment's notice. Being empathetic towards other people

1335
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 4>is important, and I think that that is an important

1336
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.239
<v Speaker 4>message that the film is trying to convey. Just doesn't

1337
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 4>do a good job and bang it gets lost in

1338
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.320
<v Speaker 4>everything else. Just cut like half of this movie's plot lines.

1339
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 4>Out Cut why rustle out of this movie. Cut fucking

1340
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 4>half of the people that Coleman Di Mingo's working with

1341
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.800
<v Speaker 4>out of this movie. Cut one of the leads out

1342
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 4>of this movie. Just do something to make it a

1343
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 4>more singular message. Like, you know, there's the idea that

1344
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Emily Blunt's dad had Parkinson's that goes absolutely fucking nowhere. Yeah,

1345
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought about that in comparison to the scene of

1346
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Promethee where David is talking to uh doctor Shaw about

1347
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.000
<v Speaker 4>her father and he's like, you know, don't you feel

1348
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.039
<v Speaker 4>like God left you that day when your father died

1349
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 4>of ebola? And it's like that one fucking line alone

1350
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:30.000
<v Speaker 4>evokes so much more emotion and like meaning from that

1351
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:33.000
<v Speaker 4>character and the way she responds, like it gets you

1352
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:37.000
<v Speaker 4>there two lines, and this movie spends two hours doing that.

1353
01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 4>The emotions of like of that like belief and how far

1354
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:41.960
<v Speaker 4>do you go for your belief?

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01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 3>And what is belief mean?

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01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Like this movie can't even nail what Prometheus just kind

1357
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 4>of threw into the movie and it works better than

1358
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:53.119
<v Speaker 4>this movie focusing on it the entire.

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01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was. It was just really rough.

1360
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I just I guess I'm hoping that Spielberg has another

1362
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>one in them so you can kind of wash this

1363
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.239
<v Speaker 2>taste out of my mouth. But this is Yeah, It's

1364
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:07.519
<v Speaker 2>not something I'm going to be going back to anytime soon,

1365
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:08.239
<v Speaker 2>that's for sure.

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01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.239
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even say that this was an entertaining I

1367
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 4>felt like this Watching this movie was kind of a

1368
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:16.039
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I was just going through the motions

1369
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:18.559
<v Speaker 4>along with the movie, Like well, this is Fielberg's last

1370
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.679
<v Speaker 4>alien movie, and it's going, Like you said, it's covering

1371
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:23.920
<v Speaker 4>things that isn't covered already and there you go. Okay,

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01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:26.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean okay, like it's just it. It seemingly limps

1373
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 4>along from the start of the movie. It just limps

1374
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 4>along to the finish, and the action is uninteresting. The

1375
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 4>actors are relatively uninteresting, if not given anything to do,

1376
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 4>or just under characterized or just written out of the

1377
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 4>movie completely like Wyatt Russell's character serves no purpose. Ultimately,

1378
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it I wanted so much to like this

1379
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:51.199
<v Speaker 4>movie because I personally believe it, you know, want to

1380
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.280
<v Speaker 4>believe in the existence of extraterrestrials and stuff like that.

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01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:57.079
<v Speaker 4>And you know that's the moments, you know, to speak to,

1382
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.239
<v Speaker 4>the moments in the movie that got to me, where

1383
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.559
<v Speaker 4>those moments where it's like, again, this is answering a

1384
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.280
<v Speaker 4>question that's bigger than all of us, really, and I

1385
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.559
<v Speaker 4>it is like, if there are in fact things exterior

1386
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 4>to us and our planet that is something that affects

1387
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:12.800
<v Speaker 4>all of us period, And that's an interesting question. This

1388
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 4>movie just doesn't understand how to ask it or answer

1389
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 4>it in an interesting way. And it doesn't do that

1390
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 4>from the start, and there's no way to redeem it,

1391
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 4>like none, Like the movie doesn't even attempt to redeem

1392
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.360
<v Speaker 4>itself at any point. It just kind of goes, well,

1393
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 4>we kind of have all these disparately tied together things.

1394
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 4>We can get a collage montage at the end of

1395
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 4>the movie of all these things out and it kind of.

1396
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 3>You you put it together.

1397
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, no, just no, you do the

1398
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 4>heavy lifting for me, because what you're expecting me to

1399
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:45.519
<v Speaker 4>do the heavy lifting on on the other side of it,

1400
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing to be gained. If you're doing the heavy lifting,

1401
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like I don't feel as disappointed if

1402
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't land. But if you make me do all

1403
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 4>the heavy lifting and it doesn't land, I'm going to

1404
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 4>be much more disappointed because you really asked a lot

1405
01:07:58.360 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 4>of me as the audience, and I think this movie's

1406
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 4>asking more of the audience in a movie that's a

1407
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:05.880
<v Speaker 4>summer blockbuster in quotation should be because it's just asking

1408
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 4>you to fill in far too many blanks without giving

1409
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you proper guidance as to what it's expecting from you

1410
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:15.599
<v Speaker 4>as an audience. And it's not fun, which a summer

1411
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 4>blockbuster should at least be somewhat fun.

1412
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not fun. It's not funny. I just I'd rather

1413
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 2>be watching pretick Hail Mary again.

1414
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 4>See that's a movie I had no interest in watching.

1415
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 4>It just didn't look interesting to me. And it kind

1416
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 4>of just reminded me of The Marsian, a movie that

1417
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I found to be just kind of fine. Maybe it's better.

1418
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Is it better than the Martian?

1419
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I liked it better than the Marsha.

1420
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, Ridley Scott, so there is that.

1421
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this one it had some fun to it.

1422
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 2>It had some serious moments to it, so yeah, I

1423
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:45.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of liked it.

1424
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.319
<v Speaker 3>So it seemed more Spielbergian than this movie.

1425
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it did have more of a sense of

1426
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 2>wonder to me and just like oh wow. Like and

1427
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 2>also even though it's not an action hero, he's not

1428
01:08:57.399 --> 01:08:59.920
<v Speaker 2>being asked to do action hero stuff. He's being at

1429
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to solve shit with his brain. Yeah, I could see

1430
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the Josh O'Connor character being much more of like, why

1431
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't fight my way out of this, but how

1432
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.000
<v Speaker 2>about I actually think of a way out of things?

1433
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 3>How about I alien my way out of this?

1434
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Because the aliens have made me super smart apparently, right, Yeah,

1435
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:22.039
<v Speaker 4>aliens speak in the language of the universe, Mike, that's mathematics.

1436
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I can hear math.

1437
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I hear colors and sea sounds.

1438
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

1439
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Being in tune with the aliens is just like dropping

1440
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 4>a whole page with a blotter acid.

1441
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It's what we're being told. Just like, whoa, my.

1442
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Eyes start to dilate. I see all sorts of wild shit.

1443
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.720
<v Speaker 4>The animals are staring at me, like, man, that's that's

1444
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.520
<v Speaker 4>the thing that like, again, you have a movie where

1445
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.279
<v Speaker 4>you introduce the idea that aliens have been here this

1446
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 4>whole time, that is the implication. And they don't even

1447
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:56.479
<v Speaker 4>go down that road very far. They like, drive one

1448
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 4>hundred feet down the road and go, Man, not interesting,

1449
01:09:58.880 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Let's go the other ways.

1450
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 3>No, that's interesting.

1451
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.680
<v Speaker 4>The aliens having been here all the time disguised as animals,

1452
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.239
<v Speaker 4>that's not interesting to you.

1453
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:05.720
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no.

1454
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:09.279
<v Speaker 4>The crop circles forming on their own, that's not interesting.

1455
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:12.199
<v Speaker 4>What is interesting to you? Then, like Colin Firth with

1456
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 4>a mouthguarden gritting his teeth really hard, that's apparently what's interesting.

1457
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that would have been fine once not for

1458
01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:24.199
<v Speaker 2>not for nine minutes and not consistently going back to

1459
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and just like, oh, well, now I'm going to have

1460
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with this person. It's like okay, Like this

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01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is your way of Like that's basically his way of

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01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 2>getting out of the office is by doing what he's

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01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.119
<v Speaker 2>doing with the little magic wand thing.

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01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:41.680
<v Speaker 4>It really, yeah, the mcguffin that they hold in their

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01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 4>hands and turn it into a television remote at one point.

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01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 4>It is really Star Wars sequels of it to have

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01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 4>like the main characters being able to talk to each

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01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:54.720
<v Speaker 4>other remotely.

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01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what it reminded me of.

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01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 4>Remember when Ben Solo is showing up and like taunting Ray, Like,

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01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 4>that's what that remind me. I'm just like this didn't

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01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 4>work then, and that mechanism and that made about as

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01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:06.800
<v Speaker 4>much sense as this did, which is to say, it

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01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make any fucking sense at all. And if you're

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01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 4>gonna have two characters in a scene occupying the scene together,

1476
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:13.960
<v Speaker 4>get them in the fucking scene. Just get them in

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01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.039
<v Speaker 4>the fucking scene. Don't have me opposite CGI animals or

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01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:18.319
<v Speaker 4>any of that other nonsense.

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01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it takes them about an hour and a

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01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.039
<v Speaker 2>half out of a two hour film before they actually

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01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 2>get together.

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01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. I feel like there

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01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 4>were good intentions here. I feel like Spielberg came back

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01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.159
<v Speaker 4>to the alien sub genre, and I like how people

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01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 4>are like it's the culmination of Close Encounters, a third

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01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of et Hey fuckers, there's.

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01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Another movie in there. I mean, he directed War of

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01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.159
<v Speaker 3>the Worlds.

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01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 4>What are we just gonna give Chris Nolan all the

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01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.840
<v Speaker 4>credit for directing one hundred year old thing or thousands

1491
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.239
<v Speaker 4>of year old thing? What everyone forgot? Spielberg's done it

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01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:48.800
<v Speaker 4>a couple of times, including.

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01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 3>War of the World.

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01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I honestly think War of the World is a much

1495
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.199
<v Speaker 4>better capper to Steven Spielberg's through two alien films than

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01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:58.800
<v Speaker 4>this one. If you just say that's the last alien

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01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:01.560
<v Speaker 4>thing he made, I would away from that a much

1498
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:05.279
<v Speaker 4>more interesting experience in this movie, because that movie is

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01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.199
<v Speaker 4>a total one to eighty from all the other alien

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01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.399
<v Speaker 4>things he'd ever done. This is just if you're not

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01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna tie this into the things you've done before, because

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01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 4>this is kind of of a piece, why are you

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01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.600
<v Speaker 4>doing it? I just I don't know. I just I'm

1504
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:19.560
<v Speaker 4>maybe I defend War of the World's way too much.

1505
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 4>But I remember being in the theater seeing that film,

1506
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 4>and just the feet are fucking shaking from the base

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01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.680
<v Speaker 4>in that movie. And I remember enjoying just the experience

1508
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:31.159
<v Speaker 4>of that and that kind of nine to eleven adjacent movie, right,

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01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:32.479
<v Speaker 4>because that was kind of the whole.

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01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Thing with that movie.

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01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Tom Cruise running around in the streets covered

1512
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 4>dust in the dust right like that evoked something that

1513
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:43.960
<v Speaker 4>felt real and lived in much more than this movie

1514
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 4>ever gets to. And again I'd like to point out

1515
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 4>that this movie exists once again in twenty twenty six

1516
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 4>post one of the largest shared experiences we have ever

1517
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.159
<v Speaker 4>had as humankind, which is the pandemic. It affected every

1518
01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 4>single one of us. Why not make this a movie

1519
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.079
<v Speaker 4>where the alien or stand in for COVID in some way,

1520
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.960
<v Speaker 4>in some capacity, do that, even I don't know, the

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01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 4>next time there will be a shared experience that we

1522
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:11.359
<v Speaker 4>all can relate to, like COVID Because for a lot

1523
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:13.680
<v Speaker 4>of people that was never even a thing in their lifetime,

1524
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Like they never experienced anything like that, And now we've all.

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01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:19.479
<v Speaker 2>Lived and for me being of my generation, the last

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01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.359
<v Speaker 2>big shared experience before that was nine to eleven.

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01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:25.319
<v Speaker 4>So right, same, I mean yeah, same, Like I'm the

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01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 4>last generation to remember nine to eleven. Essentially, I was

1529
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.760
<v Speaker 4>eleven years old when it happened, which is why War

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01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.840
<v Speaker 4>of the World's probably resonated more with me, because that's

1531
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:37.640
<v Speaker 4>like that unpacking of the post nine to eleven world

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01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.159
<v Speaker 4>that we lived in and the isolation because you have

1533
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.079
<v Speaker 4>the tim Tim Robbins in that movie. Is that the Yeah,

1534
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.680
<v Speaker 4>you have that like isolationist character thing going about in

1535
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:48.880
<v Speaker 4>that movie. To like, that feels like much more of

1536
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:52.159
<v Speaker 4>a rumination on things than this movie ever gets to.

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01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:54.800
<v Speaker 4>And that movie, I think is less well reviewed than

1538
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.279
<v Speaker 4>this film. It's this film is yeah, not that this

1539
01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 4>film's getting kind of panned, but I've seen more or

1540
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.439
<v Speaker 4>less of a fifty to fifty split on the people

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01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.600
<v Speaker 4>that I know that I've seen this movie because friend

1542
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.119
<v Speaker 4>of ours Adam Long saw it. He didn't seem to

1543
01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:10.119
<v Speaker 4>like it. I think another friend of ours, Aaron Peterson,

1544
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.680
<v Speaker 4>did like it, Like I've seen other friends of mine

1545
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:14.439
<v Speaker 4>say they liked it and didn't like like, there doesn't

1546
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.800
<v Speaker 4>seem to be a good answer on this film, like

1547
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.479
<v Speaker 4>We're the World. People were just like, Hey, that's a

1548
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:19.760
<v Speaker 4>fucking War of the World's adaptation.

1549
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Who cares?

1550
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.119
<v Speaker 4>This movie seems to be people are on off side

1551
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 4>of the fence or not, which Bielberg film being divisive

1552
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:28.520
<v Speaker 4>is kind of surprising this device.

1553
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, for me, I was not a fan

1554
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 2>of War of the Worlds. I felt that the ending

1555
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:39.479
<v Speaker 2>was really cheap, and I would go for Cloverfield as

1556
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>being a much better reaction to nine A lot of one.

1557
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Sure, but that means you have to watch clover I.

1558
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Like Cloverfield, I don't like the Well I like ten

1559
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Cloverfield Lane, but I definitely don't like the third one.

1560
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, I was gonna say, talk about it, talk about

1561
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:56.760
<v Speaker 4>a movie who's ending ruins the film ten Cloverfield Lane. God,

1562
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.159
<v Speaker 4>I love ten Cloverfield Lane more than I love clover Fiel.

1563
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 4>The ten Cloverfield Lane has the same problem that Cloverfield did,

1564
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:04.840
<v Speaker 4>which is the end of the movie doesn't live up

1565
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 4>to what the movie had set up. And this movie,

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01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.399
<v Speaker 4>I think, is kind of in that same alien camp

1567
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.520
<v Speaker 4>of you have a mystery at the center of things,

1568
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.319
<v Speaker 4>you have a mystery that's going to be answered, and

1569
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:16.880
<v Speaker 4>when the mystery is answered, it's just like you said

1570
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:19.760
<v Speaker 4>at the opening, a wet fart and not a wet

1571
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 4>fart worth seeing Adobe at mos, that's for sure.

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01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.279
<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't shaked the walls, that's right. Well, Chris,

1573
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:28.880
<v Speaker 2>when you're not talking about Steven Spielberg, what are you

1574
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:29.920
<v Speaker 2>up to these days?

1575
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, nine times out of ten, ninety nine times out

1576
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:37.520
<v Speaker 4>of one hundred, I'm not. I'm not talking about Spielberg.

1577
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:41.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about everything but Spielberg, and those conversations can

1578
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:43.800
<v Speaker 4>be found over a weirding Way Media, where my show,

1579
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 4>The Culture Cast has been posting an episode once a

1580
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:50.199
<v Speaker 4>week for twelve years, going on twelve years, which is crazy.

1581
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 4>Along with my show, you can find Mike Show, The

1582
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Projection Booth, Susan Lambert Adams Show, ADCD Ladies, Father Malone's Show,

1583
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Midnight Viewing, m Mark Begley Show, Cambridge and Was Shawn,

1584
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:03.600
<v Speaker 4>and Wakeup Heavy. All those shows can be found Awake

1585
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.119
<v Speaker 4>at weirding Way Media, which is where this show is

1586
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.319
<v Speaker 4>found right now. And if you're finding this on YouTube

1587
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.159
<v Speaker 4>and you think that this is supposed to be a movie,

1588
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:13.319
<v Speaker 4>it's a podcast. I'll just keep saying for your benefit,

1589
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 4>all these people yapping, that's what we do. It's a podcast.

1590
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:19.520
<v Speaker 4>You know in movies they talk too, but I guess

1591
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:21.640
<v Speaker 4>maybe not in the movies people are watching. Can I

1592
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:24.000
<v Speaker 4>want to just decide, did missus Mike White go to

1593
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:24.640
<v Speaker 4>this film with you?

1594
01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:26.079
<v Speaker 3>She did, right, Yes she did.

1595
01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:29.439
<v Speaker 4>Did she pop for the trailer for you? Because I

1596
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 4>feel like that's a film that you might be going

1597
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:32.399
<v Speaker 4>to theaters.

1598
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Royal Boy, Yes, we will be there.

1599
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I will want to see that trailer.

1600
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:38.119
<v Speaker 4>And I was just like, this feels like the kind

1601
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 4>of film that Mike and his wife are going to

1602
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:41.319
<v Speaker 4>see in theaters.

1603
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Under percent though, and my.

1604
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:46.359
<v Speaker 4>Parents, Man, if you guys lived in the same place,

1605
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:48.520
<v Speaker 4>you guys would be watching those movies and theaters together

1606
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.840
<v Speaker 4>because something about Jason Stathan resonates with my folks, and

1607
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I just get it.

1608
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Well.

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01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.319
<v Speaker 2>When when they lead though with from the director of Plane,

1610
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, don't don't do that. Yeah, I like, no,

1611
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm so I'm like, what's the name of this movie?

1612
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Boat?

1613
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 2>It took me because that's the second time I saw

1614
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that trailer and I was just like, wait, what is

1615
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>this movie called again? And then when they say from

1616
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the director of playing, I'm like, oh, yeah, Boat, It's

1617
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 2>like no, No, it's mutiny.

1618
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm under siege three.

1619
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 4>If it had been under Siege three I would have popped,

1620
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:24.560
<v Speaker 4>so fucking oh yeah, yeah, when did you see the preview?

1621
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 3>When did you see the preview?

1622
01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:28.159
<v Speaker 2>The other time might have been before Mortal Combat two.

1623
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:31.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I saw it before I saw the Red Band

1624
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 4>trailer for it, before a scary movie. When I saw

1625
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 4>a scary movie last week. That's three weekends in a row.

1626
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I've seen a movie in theaters. What is happening, right?

1627
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.359
<v Speaker 2>And are we going back next week? Or is the

1628
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.600
<v Speaker 2>two weeks when we have the double feature of Jackass

1629
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and what's the other movie? Super Supergirl?

1630
01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1631
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.439
<v Speaker 2>I like how I remember Jackass. I don't remember Supergirl.

1632
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know which one. I'm way more excited

1633
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:59.319
<v Speaker 3>to say. I think that's in two weeks.

1634
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.520
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna be two great Supergirl and then we're also

1635
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:04.720
<v Speaker 4>gonna be covering Jackass. I hope it's in two weeks

1636
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 4>because I have been preparing for Jackass by watching the

1637
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.119
<v Speaker 4>entire MTV show It Nice. And then I get to

1638
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.399
<v Speaker 4>watch the movies, which my friend Lindsey and I, who

1639
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 4>we watch a lot of movies together, she has not

1640
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.199
<v Speaker 4>seen any of the movies, I don't think, and I'm

1641
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:22.840
<v Speaker 4>so excited to watch them because they're fucking good, especially

1642
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.720
<v Speaker 4>that third one. Man, that third one. Oh, I'm I

1643
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:27.800
<v Speaker 4>know that this movie is like half of a fucking

1644
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 4>clip show. Uh, but I don't care. I will show

1645
01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.119
<v Speaker 4>up for a Jackass movie to see people get hit

1646
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:36.439
<v Speaker 4>in the nuts and have shit jammed up their asses,

1647
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.319
<v Speaker 4>and I have no I'm not even gonna, not even

1648
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:42.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna apologize. They take my fucking money, take it. They've

1649
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.119
<v Speaker 4>taken it several times now and they will continue if

1650
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:47.239
<v Speaker 4>this is in fact the last one. And how many

1651
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:49.600
<v Speaker 4>times have they said that now? Three other times, two

1652
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:50.279
<v Speaker 4>other times?

1653
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:53.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well they're getting kind of geriatric.

1654
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they sure are.

1655
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.359
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's when you can hear Mike and I

1656
01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.399
<v Speaker 4>again coming to you to talk about new movies. Is

1657
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 4>in two weeks. We talk about Supergirl and Jackass on

1658
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:06.720
<v Speaker 4>two separate episodes on our respective feeds, which can both

1659
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:10.319
<v Speaker 4>be found at weirdingwaymedia dot com. Like rate and review

1660
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.319
<v Speaker 4>this show on iTunes, Spotify, and if you're listening to

1661
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.279
<v Speaker 4>this on YouTube, subscribe to our channel. But just remember

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01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:41.319
<v Speaker 4>this is a podcast no movies.