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<v Speaker 1>You're watching You in the Cud with Mike ben in

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<v Speaker 1>Row and dominic Berry told me, let's first you split it,

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<v Speaker 1>then you lick it, then you dun'k it, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>also how you eat it not real.

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<v Speaker 2>This week I'm joined by poet extraordinary dominic Berry. You're

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<v Speaker 2>doing I'm really well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so lovely to be back here. I had so

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<v Speaker 3>much fun last time in a year of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>since you're last with us. Oh my goodness, that doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It does, indeed it does, indeed.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Well, it's super cool to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>Great, it's great to have you here. What have you

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<v Speaker 4>got for us this week?

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<v Speaker 3>We are going to be talking about saltburn okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm going to teach you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about wordsmith ry Mike teach you a lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounds promising.

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<v Speaker 5>And we even have something different instead of a Game

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<v Speaker 5>of the Week with Dom's top poetry on screen. notWe

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<v Speaker 5>You can see our social media just search for at

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<v Speaker 5>the coud TV and.

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<v Speaker 3>As people who have popped up in our comments go

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<v Speaker 3>along the bottom of the screen, it's time for Mike

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<v Speaker 3>in the Buzz.

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<v Speaker 5>Over Christmas. Now it's been it's gone, it's done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>did you have some good presence?

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<v Speaker 4>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>I am super nerdy, so all of my presents were

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<v Speaker 3>like Japanese only release video games from the ninety nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>proper obscure stuff and like what yeah, a game called

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<v Speaker 3>Royal Stone, a game called Crystal Warriors, like super nerdy

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like Pokemon before Pokemon at these like text line

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<v Speaker 3>ones like what the text ones where you have to

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<v Speaker 3>like type yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh not that old.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that school in school where they brought in

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<v Speaker 3>the computer a trolley like one day a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, those were glorious. Do you remember Pop?

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<v Speaker 3>His name Pop where it's like pop can explode in

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<v Speaker 3>his face grow? Yeah, it never grew old, it never grew.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one step above that, but only a small only

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<v Speaker 3>a small step.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, people have been sharing their.

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<v Speaker 5>Say Christmas gift fails awful gifts online and there's been

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<v Speaker 5>some truly brilliant ones this year, like would you say

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<v Speaker 5>no to a garlic press?

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<v Speaker 2>Garlic press? Oh no, that sounds very useful.

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<v Speaker 3>It does sound useful, but as a Christmas gift, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it depends how much garlic you eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they're trying to say something.

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<v Speaker 5>Trolley bags, a bag for the trolley.

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<v Speaker 4>Trolley bags.

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<v Speaker 5>No, oh, they're they're brilliant, they're like a shopping but

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<v Speaker 5>they did you get trolley back?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sad you didn't get a trolley back.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a bag that fits inside a trolley quite perfectly,

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<v Speaker 5>so when you're doing your scanning shop shopping, you just put.

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<v Speaker 4>It in the bag.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they did designed to fit in the trolley, so

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<v Speaker 5>you're not wrestling with trying to reorganize a bag for life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a bit of a pick. The most homophobic

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<v Speaker 4>gift on the planet, of course, is links.

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<v Speaker 5>When people give you links body set, right, But people

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<v Speaker 5>were shopped that they came in ten sets, so it's

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<v Speaker 5>not just a spray in a bottle.

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<v Speaker 4>There's ten things that come in this links.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But and customized Tomato ketchup. Oh fab Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 5>get a bottle smart ketchup. It's not even a big

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<v Speaker 5>bottle with your name on it instead of Hinds.

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<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful, Yeah, beautiful for that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I'm one of those people who like

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<v Speaker 3>could turn into a man in a home just full

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<v Speaker 3>of junk floor ceiling, Like I could, Like I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I would keep that forever, and you know, the temptation

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<v Speaker 3>to not wash it because the little bits of red

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<v Speaker 3>would like be part of it would be disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something I probably would do. You know that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. And a half pack of socks.

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<v Speaker 5>So one shed they opened up a half pack packet

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<v Speaker 5>from the grandmother and it was half a packet of

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<v Speaker 5>socks and I'm going, okay, and then the dad opened

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<v Speaker 5>the other half.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair play.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just people keeping keeping thrifty. Cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you get mine?

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<v Speaker 4>I was very lucky that I just got.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash, the true meaning of Christ.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I don't have a dog. Everyone mad As gifts

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<v Speaker 5>for the dog. So I got a lot of dog toys,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of dog treats, a blanket, and I going,

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<v Speaker 5>why have you give me a blanket? And a dog

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<v Speaker 5>ran up went that's min That's why I'm giving a blanket.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend he sis To, got his cat a caravan,

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<v Speaker 3>not like a full sized human caravan, but a cat caravan.

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<v Speaker 3>And Daphne the cat, she is the kind of cat

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<v Speaker 3>A great name, isn't it she She doesn't really like

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<v Speaker 3>many toys, but the caravan.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the genius of the caravan is really it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like a box. Cats love boxes, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>more aesthetically pleasing for it's got this really sweet design,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a little hole in the top.

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<v Speaker 3>She can pop her head out and she can climb

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<v Speaker 3>in and out of the window.

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<v Speaker 2>It is beautiful fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I get one for George.

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<v Speaker 5>But moving on, predictions. Have you had any predictions for

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<v Speaker 5>this year? You thought, Oh, this year, this is what

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<v Speaker 5>I think will happen for me. Oh, well, you know

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<v Speaker 5>my year last year.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm listing all my years I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 3>my life, it wasn't my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a favorite, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I think, you know, like Yaz and

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<v Speaker 3>the plastic population, the only way is up.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way is up. So that's what I think. Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for health, you know, good for career, good for everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just go out and be us. That's all we could do, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it. We can't be anyone else.

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<v Speaker 5>But we can try a couple of different people. That's

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<v Speaker 5>enough about how I cant man? Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 5>of Babba Agner?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I have not.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this some kind of Russian folklore, not Bulgarian. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was a lady that died in the nineties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>when she's predicted lots. She never wrote anything now because

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<v Speaker 3>she was literate. What people used to write down her

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<v Speaker 3>predictions for her.

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<v Speaker 5>She successfully predicted Princess Di's death nine to eleven chernobyl.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>She also predicted her own death as well, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think is a bit of a you can make that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, I don't want to be disrespectful for

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<v Speaker 3>something that's clearly revered yet I've not heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you say predicted, is it predicted.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a in a really elusive way that could be

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<v Speaker 3>multiple interpretations like all the stars will be in the yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see the color blue. Yeah, yeah, it's actually she's

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<v Speaker 3>quite specific, and she has been wrong, right, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>this year, what she's predicted are an assassination attempt on Putin,

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<v Speaker 3>So she said Russian Prime minister will be have an

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<v Speaker 3>assassination attempt, right, cyber attacks, EU terror attacks.

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<v Speaker 4>Bought a cure for cancer, and Alzheimer's. Right, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>she's predicted for this year.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all right, you know, she's dead now, so no

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<v Speaker 5>one's going to go with you were wrong, So on

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<v Speaker 5>my word, good day, das.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>She did predict aliens to come over last year, but

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<v Speaker 3>they might have I didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>She's very specific in that, saying that you know the

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<v Speaker 5>sky will be darkened by aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>That did happen. Well, that's I slept through it.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you sleep through world events like I do

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<v Speaker 5>at the cod TV on social media, and that brings

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<v Speaker 5>us to our story of the week YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you like a YouTuber?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not someone who follows YouTubers? Well, actually no, I

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<v Speaker 3>tell a lie because the nerdy video game stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>do follow a few people who talk about the obscure stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you ask, Well, this is because a fitness

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<v Speaker 3>influencer already fallen out with called Joe Fraser.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, not familiar with the name now.

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<v Speaker 4>That it was fitness, I'm not little teacher how to

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<v Speaker 4>get a great body. No, he stayed away for.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty two hours, so already on a good healthy as

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<v Speaker 3>an experiment to show people how important sleepers and rest is. Right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean isn't that a bit like oh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to like, you know, put nails in my hand to

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<v Speaker 3>show that putting nails in my hand is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that need to be shown? Does that need.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently so it's a generation out there that thinks you

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<v Speaker 5>don't need sleep. But yeah, he stayed a forty two

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<v Speaker 5>hours and documented the journey, right. So he started off

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<v Speaker 5>by saying things like, you know, the first eighteen hours were.

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<v Speaker 4>Easy because it was just my normal day.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he said it was when it was thirty hour

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<v Speaker 5>thirty three he really started to struggle. So he was

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<v Speaker 5>drinking a lot of caffeine to try and keep himself awake,

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<v Speaker 5>lots of sugar, and he said his mental agility went

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<v Speaker 5>downhill very quickly, to the point where he actually he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't fall asleep, he passed out from exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 4>We have another picture of him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In the words of Janet from The Rocky Horror Shower,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like men with too many muscles, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, good for him, good for him, let him

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy himselself.

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<v Speaker 4>But he obviously puts a lot of work in and

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't drink enough water anyway. But that's all from the

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<v Speaker 4>buzz this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Well, I have no intention to do anything towards

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<v Speaker 3>making my body look anything like that. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>big lamps of chocolate and bread.

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<v Speaker 2>My new Year's resolutions.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, it mus said, nothing tastes as good as

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<v Speaker 5>skinny feels.

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<v Speaker 4>She had obviously never eaten in a clare.

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<v Speaker 5>Stick around because coming up next, we've got Dominic and

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<v Speaker 5>the Shelbiz. You're watching you in a coid with Dominic

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<v Speaker 5>and make now let's get ready for the Shelbys with Dominic.

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<v Speaker 3>So to celebrate the nineteen nineties, we've got some new

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<v Speaker 3>stamps postage stamps coming out and they're of a group

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<v Speaker 3>who I remember when I was a teenager in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt this was the end of music. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I felt as a teenager, I disliked this group so much,

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<v Speaker 3>so much, but they are popular with many of the gays.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the Spice Girl. Did you what's your favorite

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<v Speaker 5>To become one really because they tell people to put

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great message. That is a great message.

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<v Speaker 3>Well here they are is one of the stamps here, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well she's winking at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I always felt as a teenager that there was. I

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, I grew up with like Cindi Lauper

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<v Speaker 3>just it just never really rang true for me. The

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<v Speaker 3>Spice Girls, it never never made a connection. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, which which was your favorite Spice.

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite space was Jerry really, just because she was

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like the Jerry solo single look at Me, the

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<v Speaker 3>first solo single. I thought that that was authentic because

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<v Speaker 3>than that one. Yeah, and I liked Melbe's do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say something lovely about the Spice Girls. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a clip from the nineties which I had

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<v Speaker 3>not seen before, and the Spice Girls are doing a

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<v Speaker 3>p are taught like different countries, and they're in a

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<v Speaker 3>European country and on this show, which I believe is

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<v Speaker 3>live on air, that the Five Spies seems quite.

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<v Speaker 2>Early in their career and loads of.

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<v Speaker 3>Young dancers come out, white dancers in backface dance around okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And to completely contradict what I said before, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that the Spice Girls, especially Melbye, the only black person

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio at the time, I thought that it

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<v Speaker 3>was really skillfully done. I believe that they didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>mean so much that could have been said. I think

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<v Speaker 3>in that scenario pretty much anything would have been you

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<v Speaker 3>know an I'm sad reaction from Melby and Melby was like,

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<v Speaker 3>why haven't you got white people doing this dance? I

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<v Speaker 3>won't say the dance itself was problematic. The dance itself

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, you know, it's our tradition.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Melby is like, you could have got black

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<v Speaker 3>people to do this sounds why haven't you? And she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>and she did it with real dignity, real now.

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw this at the time. This is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I've just seen recently, and it did make me reevaluate.

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<v Speaker 5>My I think the Spicycles, when they were being political

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<v Speaker 5>they were doing brilliant things like Jerry Halliwell talking to

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<v Speaker 5>about his life and how they should be respected more,

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<v Speaker 5>and yet he's treated appallingly and stuff. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>when when they did speak out, they had a very

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<v Speaker 4>The songs were good. Do you think anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Stop I'll stop saying moving on. If I wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of the Spice Girls, what do you think was

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<v Speaker 3>my subjective view of Britney Spears?

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<v Speaker 4>He loved her.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't key, I was you were there dressing up

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Britney Spears has had the book come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you read the book?

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<v Speaker 3>I read some of the book, did you I read

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<v Speaker 3>the back page which says some of the book, I've

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<v Speaker 3>done that typical thing that people do when they want

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<v Speaker 3>to see more intelligent than they are that I've read

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of articles about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, Britney Spears has led a really

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<v Speaker 2>really harrowing life.

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<v Speaker 3>Really really horrible things happened, and as much as I

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<v Speaker 3>had just in Tim Blake and of course the much

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<v Speaker 3>has been written about the difference in treatment of Justin Timberlakes,

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<v Speaker 3>the difference of treatment of Britney Spears. And there's been

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of reports and this is what this news

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<v Speaker 3>article is about about Britney's return to music, because it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that long ago that Elton John included Britney Spears

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<v Speaker 3>and had you a big hit single.

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<v Speaker 4>With the Conservative Ship. She had a song with Donald John.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet yeah, the tiny dancer sampling thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you know, there's been all this talk Britney

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<v Speaker 3>is returning to the music industry. But Britney herself has

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<v Speaker 3>been on Instagram saying that is not the case. So

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fans are really disappointed when you hear

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<v Speaker 3>it from the artists themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not returning to music. And I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>As a kid, I always had huge disappointment in artists

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't pledge.

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<v Speaker 6>Their heart and soul till the grave, till being a

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<v Speaker 6>singer or a actor or whatnot. And I've got really

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<v Speaker 6>different opinion these days. I think that we can get

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<v Speaker 6>so caught up in the attachment we have.

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<v Speaker 2>To a song or a.

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<v Speaker 3>Nightclub or whatnot, that we forget these are real people. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>even when we're reading the traumatic real life experiences. There's

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<v Speaker 3>still a detachment to this, so goodness me. If there's

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who has earned a little bit of choice in

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<v Speaker 3>their own lives, it definitely is Britney Spears. So I

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<v Speaker 3>can understand why fans would be disappointed. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>guess your Britney Spears song of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>If you went for a slow.

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<v Speaker 3>Spice Girls song, I think it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>slow This is what I don't like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pop singers is just bring out the bangers. Bring out

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<v Speaker 3>the bangers, you know, Like the best Britney Spears song

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<v Speaker 3>for me is toxic.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the best. Yes, I guessed, really to, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have thought you'd have gone for one like you

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<v Speaker 3>know sometimes now, really I hated all of us low stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you what's the difference between slow Spice Girls and

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<v Speaker 3>slow Britney.

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<v Speaker 4>Slow Brittany was boring.

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<v Speaker 3>So Spice Girls is boring, and that's why you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a wrong opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fair Let's move on. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a person who has strong views on music

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<v Speaker 3>but doesn't really watch television or go to the cinema

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<v Speaker 3>that much. But I am aware of a thing called saltburn.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved Saltburn, Tell me what you loved about Saltburn?

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<v Speaker 5>The twist at the end, okay, and you see a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of naked men and there's a very large penis

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<v Speaker 5>with Sophia Aspexter's music.

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<v Speaker 4>In the background.

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<v Speaker 2>What's not love?

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<v Speaker 5>What's not so love to see a man with a

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<v Speaker 5>nicely sized penis dancing to murder on the dance floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we are on the topic of.

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<v Speaker 3>Naked men with this net one of my favorite fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>So the character, no, no, the actor, the actor Jacob

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<v Speaker 3>is a scene where is his character Felix?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right, Felix here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Felix. So is that there's something in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a bark ah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>So he has a bath We have a good time

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<v Speaker 3>in the bar. He does have a good a good time.

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<v Speaker 5>And then so another actor comes along and drinks the

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<v Speaker 5>bath water a lot of the button literally, so he

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<v Speaker 5>lets the plug out, Oh my, enjoying himself in the

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<v Speaker 5>bath that's the other actor who's basically he gets down

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<v Speaker 5>and starts sloping out of the plug hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, no kink shaming, no but ew.

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<v Speaker 6>Really oh no no, not not the bath water, not

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<v Speaker 2>No anything but that.

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<v Speaker 3>You basically watch him rim the plug hole. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>he felches.

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<v Speaker 4>The plug holds the best way to describe.

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<v Speaker 2>It, because my word, my word, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I lacked dignity.

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<v Speaker 4>In the privacy of someone else's home.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a company clearly know that this is a popular scene,

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<v Speaker 3>because popular fetish when it's not the taste that's being

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<v Speaker 3>put into the capitalist, consumeristic machine. It's the smell. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the smell. There is a candle, a candle, Jacob a

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<v Speaker 3>Lord's bathwater, one hundred percent natural soy wax candle, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing it's vegan, vegan, kosher probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you enjoy sniffing Jacob's bathwater mine?

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<v Speaker 5>You see, I would have been slipping at as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have waited for him to let the water out,

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<v Speaker 5>have joined in?

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<v Speaker 4>Where was this from the lux Candle company?

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<v Speaker 3>All of these products are you know, I don't just

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<v Speaker 3>mean to do with TV shows.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like beauty.

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<v Speaker 3>Products, candles, perfumes, but usually have really abstract names, don't

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<v Speaker 5>My favorite fragrance is called Tiger, but it's spelt tygar.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonsense, nonsense, not nonsense. You liking it? But the name name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, you might as well call anything anything, mightn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure that this smells like a soy

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<v Speaker 2>wax candle. That's my prediction.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I'm a little bit disappointed because when you

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<v Speaker 5>go and order, try and order this twenty four pounds candle,

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<v Speaker 5>what's been to the n Yankee candle? You get the

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<v Speaker 5>choice of comfort spice, sea breeze, or vanilla bean.

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<v Speaker 3>Is comfort spice on one of the postage stamps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the new sick.

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<v Speaker 4>Member, which is with cushion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just sat down off the stage. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>see it very often.

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<v Speaker 4>She's comfortable.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just twenty four pounds for a candle I

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<v Speaker 5>was okay with But then you have to change the flap,

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<v Speaker 5>the flavor, the flavor flavor.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd eat it. We've established that already.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, So do you recommend I watch saltur and

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<v Speaker 3>should I break my.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think you should watch it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I know that some people like the gallery got a

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<v Speaker 5>I completely appreciate the reasons why, but that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we watch it all the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth it, Okay, well, that's the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>show biz this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for that. Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be well drinking someone's bath water later,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not I'm going to sit in the shower, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>stick around. Coming up next as we have Dom's Top Poetry.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, and yes you are watching chewing the cut.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we're going to have something a little different to

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<v Speaker 5>our game of the week as Dominic is going to

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<v Speaker 5>read some of his poetry in Dumb's Top of Poetry. So, dummick,

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<v Speaker 5>are you ready to give us your best top bits?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready to share three poems. If that's what you mean,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what I meant. Fantastic, all right, So here is

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<v Speaker 3>the first and three poems. It goes exactly like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I am strange, but I want to ask whether

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the only one who wishes.

433
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<v Speaker 2>More people cried together.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I see such sadness in the world and often want

435
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<v Speaker 3>to weep. Don't only mean lonely, subtle sniffles.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I mean loud howls in a crowd.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes my tears won't wait, don't drop privately, they burst

438
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<v Speaker 3>out publicly, embarrassing me. But I know I need to

439
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<v Speaker 3>let this upset out.

440
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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, and.

441
00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:18.640
<v Speaker 3>There shouldn't be shame if we don't aim to keep

442
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<v Speaker 3>our feelings locked away. So this is my pitch for

443
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<v Speaker 3>a crying cafe. Imagine somewhere we could all be audibly balling,

444
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:40.759
<v Speaker 3>sharing our troubles, sharing a table at a crying cafe.

445
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.039
<v Speaker 3>If you'd rather be smiling, that is okay. There are

446
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:50.000
<v Speaker 3>already plenty of other places for that. But if weepings

447
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<v Speaker 3>where you're currently at, let's make a data a crying cafe,

448
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<v Speaker 3>a crime cafe.

449
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 2>We could open one up today.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Take me away to the cafe, a welcoming space for

451
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<v Speaker 3>the wettest face, where we could embrace grief with grace. Oh,

452
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<v Speaker 3>let's go for some bleary eyed snotty nose tissue soaking.

453
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<v Speaker 2>I am not joking.

454
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<v Speaker 3>I'd sincerely love a place where we could all sob safely,

455
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<v Speaker 3>fairly trade sorrows over the flattest flat white. No sweetener needed,

456
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:31.880
<v Speaker 3>a cathartic copper with caring comrades, and nobody is trying

457
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<v Speaker 3>to correct us. It's not bad to be sad. Everyone

458
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<v Speaker 3>accepts us. There is nobody saying you're over reacting. There's

459
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<v Speaker 3>just kind and mindful interacting. We would not need loyalty cards,

460
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<v Speaker 3>because here we could gain the greatest reward being together,

461
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 3>feeling together, healing together, weeping when no one would ever

462
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>have to hide, and we could leave with loving connections,

463
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<v Speaker 3>feeling closer having cried.

464
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<v Speaker 5>So I like the idea of Crane Cafe. I used

465
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<v Speaker 5>to do something one of our workplace. We used to

466
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<v Speaker 5>have a Friday cry. So we used to go into

467
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<v Speaker 5>a room, me and like two of the colleagues and

468
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<v Speaker 5>we just cry.

469
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<v Speaker 2>No way for real, Yeah, a Friday cry.

470
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<v Speaker 5>It was just the best way of getting all the

471
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<v Speaker 5>stresses and stuff because it's quite a high pressure job.

472
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<v Speaker 2>So we used to have a Friday cry and it

473
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<v Speaker 2>does help.

474
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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, Mike, and I've not heard anything like that before,

475
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<v Speaker 3>and it's brilliant. I am not pretending for one moment

476
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<v Speaker 3>that I am the person who is the best at

477
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<v Speaker 3>dealing with other people crying. But I think it's something

478
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 3>that as a society we often panic over. We don't

479
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<v Speaker 3>necessarily have the experience and to normalize crying because it's

480
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.640
<v Speaker 3>such a healthy thing to do, and many a word

481
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 3>has been written on men crying, and you know, it's

482
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>great for everyone to cry. And that's amazing that your

483
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<v Speaker 3>workplace had that to happen.

484
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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard that before.

485
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<v Speaker 4>It's not a workplace thing. It's me and too color.

486
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<v Speaker 5>You said we need to have a Friday cry right, well,

487
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 5>yeah in the Crane Cafe. Are you allowed to do

488
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 5>happy crying?

489
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? For sure, definitely. Yeah, happy crying is good too great.

490
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 4>So do you have another one of your poems for us?

491
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? All right, second one coming up. So this is

492
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 3>about another kind of emotion. It's about being at a festival.

493
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<v Speaker 3>It goes like this, I do not know your name.

494
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<v Speaker 3>In Glastonbury. We're all defined by mud through rain. We

495
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>dance our names, sliding off into mud, while sing wellies

496
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 3>leave imprints of laughter across druid drenched earth. When Burke sang,

497
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 3>it takes courage to enjoy it. I'm sure she was

498
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 3>singing about Glastonbury mud. It took courage for me to

499
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 3>enjoy these thousands of voices cheering, when all I had

500
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 3>ever known from loud crowds was anxiety and beatings. I

501
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 3>had learned to.

502
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Fear voices shouting my blood on their fists. Would hide

503
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>at home inside my headphones, break beats, not war mars.

504
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:56.400
<v Speaker 3>As a girl, red faced and scared of the world,

505
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 3>scared of names, hurled stuck to me. Men who called

506
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 3>me dirty, called me filthy, queer.

507
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>But you do not know my names.

508
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Speaker 3>In Glastonbury, we're all defined by MUDs.

509
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Through rain.

510
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 3>We dance our names, sliding off into mud. And now

511
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 3>my voice joins this applauding chorus thousands in rain coated

512
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>androgyny is ecstatic, grounded harmony. Because we are courage, we

513
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 3>are joy, we are dirty, we are filthy, we are mud.

514
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I like mud.

515
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 5>Because it's treated big festivals like Glastow it is. It's

516
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 5>a thing that everybody has on them. It doesn't matter

517
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 5>what you're doing coming from you are covered in mud,

518
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 5>even if it's sunny.

519
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've been twenty particularly joyful festivals might have.

520
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 4>Been to a couple.

521
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 5>But I think the thing that I most took away

522
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 5>from a festival was the fact that you can never

523
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 5>run through a camp site. You can only ever run

524
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 5>through a camp site because it's always past tense.

525
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Right. Should I do the final?

526
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 4>I think we should think we should.

527
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, so my final three day.

528
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm usually quite loud when I say my poems, but

529
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I've chosen like a gentler one to end on.

530
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 4>This has to become one of your poems.

531
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>The two become one of my poems. That's not going

532
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 3>on tour posts as that quote. It is not. This

533
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 3>is called I Am. It goes like this. It's sunny.

534
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 3>I am running in the park. Two puppies play. I

535
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>see a bird fly close to me, then watch it

536
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 3>for away. There's rhythm in my running, grounded rhythm in

537
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 3>my feet. A thought is coming close to me and

538
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 3>feeling my heart beat. This thought calls me a loser.

539
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 3>This thought tells me I'm cursed. This thought predicts a

540
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>future where this thought says, fear the worst. The ones

541
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 3>you love will leave you, and you will break down

542
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>and cry, and no one else will care when they

543
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 3>all die or say goodbye. I see this thought come

544
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 3>close to me, then watch it fly away. I let

545
00:30:55.200 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 3>it go. I know the truth. I watch the puppies play.

546
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

547
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I am not stress or fear. I'm here, I am

548
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 3>not rage. I'm here, I am not sorrow, and my

549
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 3>feelings aren't a cage. I am the rhythm of a breath.

550
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 3>The puppies race and bark. The air is soft. The

551
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>sun shines on these games played in the park, and

552
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 3>when I watch the puppies play, their joy is all

553
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 3>I see. I share a rhythm with today, A perfect

554
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 3>place to be.

555
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening.

556
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 4>That's great.

557
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 5>Was a lot more slow and a little softer than

558
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 5>the other ones. Yeah, definitely the two become one of

559
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 5>your poems.

560
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>And references to dogs. I know how close you are

561
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 3>to your Yes, Yes.

562
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 5>I do enjoy a puppy reference and an inference about doggie.

563
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I knew you were going to go. My heart felt

564
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>tend to bow him. I thought, yeah, that's where my.

565
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, stick around because after this break, it's

566
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 3>time for Dominic to give me his knowledge as he

567
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:35.799
<v Speaker 3>teaches me a lesson. Welcome back to you in the

568
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>good Now, we take a deep breath, relax, and get

569
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 3>ready to be rammed with some knowledge.

570
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>In teach me a lesson.

571
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Look at my classroom. How good is this? I've got fish,

572
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I've got fish leaping out book. How good is that? Right? Right?

573
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 3>Right? I'm ready for some no knowledge ramming. That's what

574
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 3>this is about. And I have asked Mike to do

575
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>a bit of homework. Right, so, you've not been a

576
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>bad student. You've done this. It was simple home work

577
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 3>all I asked, was one phrase like you know, a

578
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 3>sentence a lie. Doesn't have to be like clever, I asked, Mike,

579
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think about it too much. Just something that would

580
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 3>be like the center of what the poem's going to

581
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 3>be about.

582
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Just one simple line.

583
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't want you to say what it is yet, Mike,

584
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 3>but do you do you have a line?

585
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, on Lake, It's like all the way through

586
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 5>my scholastic career, I have actually done.

587
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Her work okay, and I have got my phrase lovely lovely.

588
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>So I write poems to be spoken aloud.

589
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>And how I'm going to.

590
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.079
<v Speaker 3>School you today is creating a poem with the intent

591
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>of it to be heard. Because there are differences between

592
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 3>a poem that only exists on the page and a

593
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 3>poem to perform, I would say that a repeated phrase

594
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 3>is one device that could be helpful. So I'm going

595
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 3>to encourage you to think about including this phrase.

596
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 2>More than once. More than once.

597
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 3>In my Glastonbury Mud poem, I kept referring to that

598
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 3>crying cafe.

599
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is your.

600
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Opening line, though, what you've got I think I think

601
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 3>it might it might even be the last line. Maybe

602
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 3>what you write arrived to that perhaps or maybe like

603
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 3>crime Cafe, I brought that concept in about a quarter

604
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>of the way through.

605
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's step one. Step two.

606
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I would encourage, you know, essentially, i'd encourage a rhyming poem. Okay,

607
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>not all poems have to rhyme, but I would encourage

608
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 3>a rhyming poem. For performance, people listen differently to rhymes.

609
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's it's an easier way to access

610
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 3>something for the first time, because in performance it's all

611
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>about that immediate grab.

612
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>That immediate grab.

613
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I do like being grabbed a media. Yes, So.

614
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Have you got enough with which to say? I have started,

615
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I have com You've already s died, right right? Do

616
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 2>you know what? I'm going to keep on wittering while

617
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>you're writing all I probably will.

618
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 5>Ask some questions because I've got written poetry since I

619
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 5>was an angsty teenager.

620
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Keep coming back to that line. This is why I

621
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 3>asked you think of it. So your rhymes should be

622
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 3>words that guide you towards that that theme.

623
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Even if you you.

624
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Don't repeat the line I gave you all the time,

625
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>whether you do or don't, use that as your anchor,

626
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>use that as your compass. Use that as your point

627
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>that you don't end up with lines that are too

628
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 3>confusing or not on topic. You want to use this

629
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 3>line to make sure that what you say gives the

630
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 3>listener a clear journey.

631
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think this is and what rhymes with.

632
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Sucks blocks not like the Chemical Brothers block rocking beats. Yeah, yeah,

633
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I can just write chemical or the lyrics down there

634
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:19.920
<v Speaker 3>because that works. Yeah, absolutely, definitely, definitely, So I would

635
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 3>encourage a narrative to a performance. Time doesn't have to be,

636
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to be, but if like a story, you've

637
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 3>got like a beginning, middle, and end, that could be

638
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 3>a helpful way to structure a poem before you start

639
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 3>thinking about whether there's a rhythm or anything like that,

640
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 3>just just knowing where the poem's going.

641
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>So with the Glastonbury.

642
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Mud poem, the last line we are mud was actually

643
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the first concept I I sort of came up with,

644
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 3>and I thought, well, is there a way to incorporate

645
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 3>that into into a journey like mud?

646
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<v Speaker 2>Is it disgusting? Is it to be celebrating? Is it joyful?

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<v Speaker 4>What the you know?

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<v Speaker 3>And having that phrase mean different things at different points

649
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<v Speaker 3>of the poem, that has sort of happened naturally. A

650
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<v Speaker 3>big thing is just to get it written, though, don't

651
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<v Speaker 3>think too much, because just get it out there, because

652
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<v Speaker 3>I think I often am putting loads.

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<v Speaker 2>Of pressure on myself.

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<v Speaker 3>This next poem you write has to be as good

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<v Speaker 3>as every other poem you've ever written, and every other

656
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<v Speaker 3>poet that every other poet has written. And that's an impossibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that when we just get something on paper,

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<v Speaker 3>if the rhyme maybe isn't as strong as we want

659
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<v Speaker 3>it to be, or the central theme isn't as you

660
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<v Speaker 3>know things like they say, it is malleable.

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<v Speaker 2>We can keep working, we can keep editing, we can

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<v Speaker 2>keep changing things. So I think stopping before you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Started is a common problem and something that I often do.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why I said that your line you

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<v Speaker 3>came up with might not be the first line. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a rookie way to begin is that I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a great first line and then you've used up all

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<v Speaker 3>your best ideas in your opening, Whereas to have that

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<v Speaker 3>great line or important line to you as something that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you come to court the way through or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not even until the end of the pipe, gives you

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<v Speaker 3>a place your heading.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really helpful. I think to almost work backwards

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Like I know I want to say we

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<v Speaker 2>are MUDs. I need to explain what that means. Crying cafe,

676
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<v Speaker 2>crying cafe.

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<v Speaker 3>Before I use the phrase crying cafe, I set up

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<v Speaker 3>the premise of why crying is significant to me, so

679
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<v Speaker 3>that journey is really really helpful. And again a big

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<v Speaker 3>difference between poems that are only for the pages is

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<v Speaker 3>if someone's got a book, they can really take their

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<v Speaker 3>time with more enigmatic concepts, more lyrical themes. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you're writing to be performed, I think I think we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for that immediacye which is which is helpful when

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<v Speaker 3>we're creating helpful to be thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>Does this?

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<v Speaker 2>They can be extra layers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, here's what I get from the poem on a

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<v Speaker 3>first listen, Here's what you might not necessarily get to

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<v Speaker 3>a fifth or sixth lesson listen.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, like just an interruption, is rotum a word?

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<v Speaker 2>Non?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you use made up words or do they have

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<v Speaker 4>to be actual words?

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<v Speaker 3>You could bloat them, you could float them.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, I don't think you want to float what

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<v Speaker 4>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that consistency is important. So in answer to

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<v Speaker 3>your question, can you use made up words only if

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<v Speaker 3>you've used the early in the poem. This is why

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<v Speaker 3>I said for the homework, come up with the theme

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<v Speaker 3>the anchor, the compass. Even if you don't use that

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<v Speaker 3>phrase repeatedly, even if you use it once in your head,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been the thing that's grounded you, to stop you

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<v Speaker 3>going off too much of a tangent. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>being on topic is so important to a poem which

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<v Speaker 3>is performed.

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<v Speaker 2>Really crucial.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, great, well, I think I think I've come up

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<v Speaker 3>with something.

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<v Speaker 4>Really that is quick in my heart as well.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, why am I already shuddering at

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<v Speaker 3>the thought what that might be?

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<v Speaker 5>The fact I've actually to run something with. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>thank you for teaching me that lesson dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>A joy, a joy, lots of information went in my brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is very good, oh now, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's very true to me. All right, let's see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>in springtimes, embrace you bloom so bright in tailored shirts

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<v Speaker 3>of linen, a charming sight. Colours like petals, soft and sublime.

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<v Speaker 3>But your gooch smells disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>Not yours.

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<v Speaker 5>Summer's heat are fashion feet, shorts and shades and look

725
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<v Speaker 5>so sweet. Some kissed alow in the warmest glow, but

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<v Speaker 5>your gooch smells disgusting. Autumn leaves and hues of gold

727
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<v Speaker 5>gray joggers are story unfolds style whispers through the crisp air,

728
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<v Speaker 5>but your gooch smells disgusting. Winter's chill a fashion thrill,

729
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<v Speaker 5>woolen scarves and jackets still snowflakes dance as elegance thrives.

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<v Speaker 4>But your gooch smells disgusting.

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<v Speaker 5>Through the seasons, you wear with grace, yet the truth

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<v Speaker 5>remains a particular embrace. Your goot smells disgusting, but I

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<v Speaker 5>do love the taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, much like salt burn, there is a twist.

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<v Speaker 4>A theme.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, well you you did it, didn't you put

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<v Speaker 3>the phrase in?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that?

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<v Speaker 3>That was quite literally a repetition of that That really

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<v Speaker 3>helps hearing a poem.

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<v Speaker 4>It was easier.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny, really, So that's that's my half asked attempt

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<v Speaker 3>half what it's actually with some great poetry.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are you going to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah? Do you know what I'm not allowed to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not allowed to say, but teaser, trainer, teas trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>I know last year, last year I didn't go twenty

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<v Speaker 3>of the festivals.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I am this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not allowed to say which.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, some of them are penciled, but but one

752
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<v Speaker 3>big one is exciting. So yeah, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be so just check out my website, my name Dominic

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<v Speaker 3>berry dot now. I'll update everything on there when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, we shall be following up. We'll be on

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<v Speaker 4>social media posts why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the poet Dominic on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm sure we will reshare when that announcement comes

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<v Speaker 5>out as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that is almost the end of the show. Just

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<v Speaker 3>remember to join us on our social media which is

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<v Speaker 3>at the cud TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for watching. I will see you all soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye, thank like Tennisee
