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Speaker 2: This week I'm joined by poet extraordinary dominic Berry. You're
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Speaker 3: It's so lovely to be back here. I had so
Speaker 3: much fun last time in a year of the year,
Speaker 3: since you're last with us. Oh my goodness, that doesn't it?
Speaker 3: It does, indeed it does, indeed.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, it's super cool to be back.
Speaker 4: Great, it's great to have you here. What have you
Speaker 4: got for us this week?
Speaker 3: We are going to be talking about saltburn okay, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to teach you a little bit
Speaker 3: about wordsmith ry Mike teach you a lesson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds promising.
Speaker 5: And we even have something different instead of a Game
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Speaker 3: As people who have popped up in our comments go
Speaker 3: along the bottom of the screen, it's time for Mike
Speaker 3: in the Buzz.
Speaker 5: Over Christmas. Now it's been it's gone, it's done. Yeah,
Speaker 5: did you have some good presence?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: I am super nerdy, so all of my presents were
Speaker 3: like Japanese only release video games from the ninety nineties,
Speaker 3: proper obscure stuff and like what yeah, a game called
Speaker 3: Royal Stone, a game called Crystal Warriors, like super nerdy
Speaker 3: stuff like Pokemon before Pokemon at these like text line
Speaker 3: ones like what the text ones where you have to
Speaker 3: like type yes.
Speaker 2: Oh not that old.
Speaker 3: I remember that school in school where they brought in
Speaker 3: the computer a trolley like one day a week.
Speaker 2: Oh, those were glorious. Do you remember Pop?
Speaker 3: His name Pop where it's like pop can explode in
Speaker 3: his face grow? Yeah, it never grew old, it never grew.
Speaker 3: It's one step above that, but only a small only
Speaker 3: a small step.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, people have been sharing their.
Speaker 5: Say Christmas gift fails awful gifts online and there's been
Speaker 5: some truly brilliant ones this year, like would you say
Speaker 5: no to a garlic press?
Speaker 2: Garlic press? Oh no, that sounds very useful.
Speaker 3: It does sound useful, but as a Christmas gift, well,
Speaker 3: I guess it depends how much garlic you eat.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're trying to say something.
Speaker 5: Trolley bags, a bag for the trolley.
Speaker 4: Trolley bags.
Speaker 5: No, oh, they're they're brilliant, they're like a shopping but
Speaker 5: they did you get trolley back?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Are you sad you didn't get a trolley back.
Speaker 5: It's a bag that fits inside a trolley quite perfectly,
Speaker 5: so when you're doing your scanning shop shopping, you just put.
Speaker 4: It in the bag.
Speaker 5: Oh, they did designed to fit in the trolley, so
Speaker 5: you're not wrestling with trying to reorganize a bag for life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a bit of a pick. The most homophobic
Speaker 4: gift on the planet, of course, is links.
Speaker 5: When people give you links body set, right, But people
Speaker 5: were shopped that they came in ten sets, so it's
Speaker 5: not just a spray in a bottle.
Speaker 4: There's ten things that come in this links.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But and customized Tomato ketchup. Oh fab Yeah, so you
Speaker 5: get a bottle smart ketchup. It's not even a big
Speaker 5: bottle with your name on it instead of Hinds.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, Yeah, beautiful for that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm one of those people who like
Speaker 3: could turn into a man in a home just full
Speaker 3: of junk floor ceiling, Like I could, Like I would.
Speaker 3: I would keep that forever, and you know, the temptation
Speaker 3: to not wash it because the little bits of red
Speaker 3: would like be part of it would be disgusting.
Speaker 2: There's something I probably would do. You know that's great.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that. And a half pack of socks.
Speaker 5: So one shed they opened up a half pack packet
Speaker 5: from the grandmother and it was half a packet of
Speaker 5: socks and I'm going, okay, and then the dad opened
Speaker 5: the other half.
Speaker 2: Fair play.
Speaker 4: So it's just people keeping keeping thrifty. Cost of living crisis.
Speaker 2: What did you get mine?
Speaker 4: I was very lucky that I just got.
Speaker 2: Cash, the true meaning of Christ.
Speaker 5: Because I don't have a dog. Everyone mad As gifts
Speaker 5: for the dog. So I got a lot of dog toys,
Speaker 5: a lot of dog treats, a blanket, and I going,
Speaker 5: why have you give me a blanket? And a dog
Speaker 5: ran up went that's min That's why I'm giving a blanket.
Speaker 3: My friend he sis To, got his cat a caravan,
Speaker 3: not like a full sized human caravan, but a cat caravan.
Speaker 3: And Daphne the cat, she is the kind of cat
Speaker 3: A great name, isn't it she She doesn't really like
Speaker 3: many toys, but the caravan.
Speaker 2: She loves it.
Speaker 3: And the genius of the caravan is really it's it's
Speaker 3: just like a box. Cats love boxes, but it's it's
Speaker 3: more aesthetically pleasing for it's got this really sweet design,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 2: Got a little hole in the top.
Speaker 3: She can pop her head out and she can climb
Speaker 3: in and out of the window.
Speaker 2: It is beautiful fun.
Speaker 4: I get one for George.
Speaker 5: But moving on, predictions. Have you had any predictions for
Speaker 5: this year? You thought, Oh, this year, this is what
Speaker 5: I think will happen for me. Oh, well, you know
Speaker 5: my year last year.
Speaker 3: If I'm listing all my years I've ever had in
Speaker 3: my life, it wasn't my favorite.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a favorite, you know.
Speaker 3: So I think I think, you know, like Yaz and
Speaker 3: the plastic population, the only way is up.
Speaker 2: The only way is up. So that's what I think. Good.
Speaker 3: Good for health, you know, good for career, good for everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just go out and be us. That's all we could do, Mike,
Speaker 3: isn't it. We can't be anyone else.
Speaker 5: But we can try a couple of different people. That's
Speaker 5: enough about how I cant man? Have you ever heard
Speaker 5: of Babba Agner?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: I have not.
Speaker 3: Is this some kind of Russian folklore, not Bulgarian. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: and she was a lady that died in the nineties. Okay,
Speaker 3: when she's predicted lots. She never wrote anything now because
Speaker 3: she was literate. What people used to write down her
Speaker 3: predictions for her.
Speaker 5: She successfully predicted Princess Di's death nine to eleven chernobyl.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: She also predicted her own death as well, which I
Speaker 5: think is a bit of a you can make that happen.
Speaker 3: So, you know, I don't want to be disrespectful for
Speaker 3: something that's clearly revered yet I've not heard of.
Speaker 2: But when you say predicted, is it predicted.
Speaker 3: Like a in a really elusive way that could be
Speaker 3: multiple interpretations like all the stars will be in the yeah,
Speaker 3: you'll see the color blue. Yeah, yeah, it's actually she's
Speaker 3: quite specific, and she has been wrong, right, right, But
Speaker 3: this year, what she's predicted are an assassination attempt on Putin,
Speaker 3: So she said Russian Prime minister will be have an
Speaker 3: assassination attempt, right, cyber attacks, EU terror attacks.
Speaker 4: Bought a cure for cancer, and Alzheimer's. Right, that's what
Speaker 4: she's predicted for this year.
Speaker 5: That's all right, you know, she's dead now, so no
Speaker 5: one's going to go with you were wrong, So on
Speaker 5: my word, good day, das.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: She did predict aliens to come over last year, but
Speaker 3: they might have I didn't.
Speaker 5: She's very specific in that, saying that you know the
Speaker 5: sky will be darkened by aliens.
Speaker 4: That did happen. Well, that's I slept through it.
Speaker 5: But if you sleep through world events like I do
Speaker 5: at the cod TV on social media, and that brings
Speaker 5: us to our story of the week YouTube.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you like a YouTuber?
Speaker 3: I'm not someone who follows YouTubers? Well, actually no, I
Speaker 3: tell a lie because the nerdy video game stuff. I
Speaker 3: do follow a few people who talk about the obscure stuff.
Speaker 3: Why do you ask, Well, this is because a fitness
Speaker 3: influencer already fallen out with called Joe Fraser.
Speaker 2: Okay, not familiar with the name now.
Speaker 4: That it was fitness, I'm not little teacher how to
Speaker 4: get a great body. No, he stayed away for.
Speaker 3: Forty two hours, so already on a good healthy as
Speaker 3: an experiment to show people how important sleepers and rest is. Right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean isn't that a bit like oh, I'm going
Speaker 3: to like, you know, put nails in my hand to
Speaker 3: show that putting nails in my hand is bad.
Speaker 2: Does that need to be shown? Does that need.
Speaker 5: Apparently so it's a generation out there that thinks you
Speaker 5: don't need sleep. But yeah, he stayed a forty two
Speaker 5: hours and documented the journey, right. So he started off
Speaker 5: by saying things like, you know, the first eighteen hours were.
Speaker 4: Easy because it was just my normal day.
Speaker 5: Because he said it was when it was thirty hour
Speaker 5: thirty three he really started to struggle. So he was
Speaker 5: drinking a lot of caffeine to try and keep himself awake,
Speaker 5: lots of sugar, and he said his mental agility went
Speaker 5: downhill very quickly, to the point where he actually he
Speaker 5: didn't fall asleep, he passed out from exhaustion.
Speaker 4: We have another picture of him.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 3: In the words of Janet from The Rocky Horror Shower,
Speaker 3: I don't like men with too many muscles, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that's.
Speaker 2: I mean, good for him, good for him, let him
Speaker 2: enjoy himselself.
Speaker 4: But he obviously puts a lot of work in and
Speaker 4: doesn't drink enough water anyway. But that's all from the
Speaker 4: buzz this week.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Mike Well, I have no intention to do anything towards
Speaker 3: making my body look anything like that. I think, you know,
Speaker 3: big lamps of chocolate and bread.
Speaker 2: My new Year's resolutions.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it mus said, nothing tastes as good as
Speaker 5: skinny feels.
Speaker 4: She had obviously never eaten in a clare.
Speaker 5: Stick around because coming up next, we've got Dominic and
Speaker 5: the Shelbiz. You're watching you in a coid with Dominic
Speaker 5: and make now let's get ready for the Shelbys with Dominic.
Speaker 3: So to celebrate the nineteen nineties, we've got some new
Speaker 3: stamps postage stamps coming out and they're of a group
Speaker 3: who I remember when I was a teenager in the nineties,
Speaker 3: I felt this was the end of music. That's why
Speaker 3: I felt as a teenager, I disliked this group so much,
Speaker 3: so much, but they are popular with many of the gays.
Speaker 2: They are the Spice Girl. Did you what's your favorite
Speaker 2: Spice Girls song?
Speaker 5: To become one really because they tell people to put
Speaker 5: condoms on.
Speaker 2: Well, that is a good thing.
Speaker 4: I think it's a great message.
Speaker 3: That is a great message. That is a great message.
Speaker 3: Well here they are is one of the stamps here, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well she's winking at me.
Speaker 3: I always felt as a teenager that there was. I
Speaker 3: know that most pop music is manufactured in some way,
Speaker 3: but you know, I grew up with like Cindi Lauper
Speaker 3: and Madonna, who I felt were really authentic, and it
Speaker 3: just it just never really rang true for me. The
Speaker 3: Spice Girls, it never never made a connection. But we're
Speaker 3: not just getting one stamp. We're getting like about a
Speaker 3: million stamps because there we are all the different ones there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, which which was your favorite Spice.
Speaker 4: My favorite space was Jerry really, just because she was
Speaker 4: the most chaotic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the Jerry solo single look at Me, the
Speaker 3: first solo single. I thought that that was authentic because
Speaker 3: that was all I was less keen than less keen
Speaker 3: than that one. Yeah, and I liked Melbe's do you
Speaker 3: know what?
Speaker 4: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: I'm going to say something lovely about the Spice Girls. Now,
Speaker 3: I saw a clip from the nineties which I had
Speaker 3: not seen before, and the Spice Girls are doing a
Speaker 3: p are taught like different countries, and they're in a
Speaker 3: European country and on this show, which I believe is
Speaker 3: live on air, that the Five Spies seems quite.
Speaker 2: Early in their career and loads of.
Speaker 3: Young dancers come out, white dancers in backface dance around okay,
Speaker 3: And to completely contradict what I said before, I thought
Speaker 3: that the Spice Girls, especially Melbye, the only black person
Speaker 3: in the studio at the time, I thought that it
Speaker 3: was really skillfully done. I believe that they didn't know
Speaker 3: this was going to happen, and Melby was like, I
Speaker 3: mean so much that could have been said. I think
Speaker 3: in that scenario pretty much anything would have been you
Speaker 3: know an I'm sad reaction from Melby and Melby was like,
Speaker 3: why haven't you got white people doing this dance? I
Speaker 3: won't say the dance itself was problematic. The dance itself
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you know, it's our tradition.
Speaker 3: It's like Melby is like, you could have got black
Speaker 3: people to do this sounds why haven't you? And she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not okay with this dance. I thought to say that,
Speaker 3: and she did it with real dignity, real now.
Speaker 2: I never saw this at the time. This is something
Speaker 2: that I've just seen recently, and it did make me reevaluate.
Speaker 5: My I think the Spicycles, when they were being political
Speaker 5: and very pc and very aware of where they were,
Speaker 5: they were doing brilliant things like Jerry Halliwell talking to
Speaker 5: when they met Nelson Mandela, Jerry Hollywell went, you know
Speaker 5: about his life and how they should be respected more,
Speaker 5: and yet he's treated appallingly and stuff. So I think
Speaker 5: when when they did speak out, they had a very
Speaker 5: good voice.
Speaker 4: The songs were good. Do you think anyway?
Speaker 3: Stop I'll stop saying moving on. If I wasn't a
Speaker 3: fan of the Spice Girls, what do you think was
Speaker 3: my subjective view of Britney Spears?
Speaker 4: He loved her.
Speaker 5: I wasn't key, I was you were there dressing up
Speaker 5: with the pigtails and the school.
Speaker 2: But you know, Britney Spears has had the book come out.
Speaker 2: Have you read the book?
Speaker 3: I read some of the book, did you I read
Speaker 3: the back page which says some of the book, I've
Speaker 3: done that typical thing that people do when they want
Speaker 3: to see more intelligent than they are that I've read
Speaker 3: a lot of articles about.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Britney Spears has led a really
Speaker 2: really harrowing life.
Speaker 3: Really really horrible things happened, and as much as I
Speaker 3: had just in Tim Blake and of course the much
Speaker 3: has been written about the difference in treatment of Justin Timberlakes,
Speaker 3: the difference of treatment of Britney Spears. And there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of reports and this is what this news
Speaker 3: article is about about Britney's return to music, because it
Speaker 3: wasn't that long ago that Elton John included Britney Spears
Speaker 3: and had you a big hit single.
Speaker 4: With the Conservative Ship. She had a song with Donald John.
Speaker 2: Yet yeah, the tiny dancer sampling thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, there's been all this talk Britney
Speaker 3: is returning to the music industry. But Britney herself has
Speaker 3: been on Instagram saying that is not the case. So
Speaker 3: a lot of fans are really disappointed when you hear
Speaker 3: it from the artists themselves.
Speaker 2: I'm not returning to music. And I think that.
Speaker 3: As a kid, I always had huge disappointment in artists
Speaker 3: who didn't pledge.
Speaker 6: Their heart and soul till the grave, till being a
Speaker 6: singer or a actor or whatnot. And I've got really
Speaker 6: different opinion these days. I think that we can get
Speaker 6: so caught up in the attachment we have.
Speaker 2: To a song or a.
Speaker 3: Nightclub or whatnot, that we forget these are real people. Then,
Speaker 3: even when we're reading the traumatic real life experiences. There's
Speaker 3: still a detachment to this, so goodness me. If there's
Speaker 3: anyone who has earned a little bit of choice in
Speaker 3: their own lives, it definitely is Britney Spears. So I
Speaker 3: can understand why fans would be disappointed. I'm going to
Speaker 3: guess your Britney Spears song of choice.
Speaker 2: If you went for a slow.
Speaker 3: Spice Girls song, I think it's going to be a
Speaker 3: slow This is what I don't like a lot of
Speaker 3: pop singers is just bring out the bangers. Bring out
Speaker 3: the bangers, you know, Like the best Britney Spears song
Speaker 3: for me is toxic.
Speaker 4: It is the best. Yes, I guessed, really to, I.
Speaker 3: Would have thought you'd have gone for one like you
Speaker 3: know sometimes now, really I hated all of us low stuff.
Speaker 3: Did you what's the difference between slow Spice Girls and
Speaker 3: slow Britney.
Speaker 4: Slow Brittany was boring.
Speaker 3: So Spice Girls is boring, and that's why you've got
Speaker 3: a wrong opinion.
Speaker 2: Of fair Let's move on. Let's move on.
Speaker 3: I am a person who has strong views on music
Speaker 3: but doesn't really watch television or go to the cinema
Speaker 3: that much. But I am aware of a thing called saltburn.
Speaker 3: I loved Saltburn, Tell me what you loved about Saltburn?
Speaker 5: The twist at the end, okay, and you see a
Speaker 5: lot of naked men and there's a very large penis
Speaker 5: with Sophia Aspexter's music.
Speaker 4: In the background.
Speaker 2: What's not love?
Speaker 5: What's not so love to see a man with a
Speaker 5: nicely sized penis dancing to murder on the dance floor.
Speaker 2: Well, we are on the topic of.
Speaker 3: Naked men with this net one of my favorite fantastic
Speaker 3: So the character, no, no, the actor, the actor Jacob
Speaker 3: is a scene where is his character Felix?
Speaker 4: Is that right, Felix here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Felix. So is that there's something in a in
Speaker 2: a bark ah?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: So he has a bath We have a good time
Speaker 3: in the bar. He does have a good a good time.
Speaker 5: And then so another actor comes along and drinks the
Speaker 5: bath water a lot of the button literally, so he
Speaker 5: lets the plug out, Oh my, enjoying himself in the
Speaker 5: bath that's the other actor who's basically he gets down
Speaker 5: and starts sloping out of the plug hole.
Speaker 2: I mean, no kink shaming, no but ew.
Speaker 6: Really oh no no, not not the bath water, not
Speaker 6: the plug hole.
Speaker 2: No anything but that.
Speaker 3: You basically watch him rim the plug hole. Okay, well
Speaker 3: he felches.
Speaker 4: The plug holds the best way to describe.
Speaker 2: It, because my word, my word, you know, And I
Speaker 2: thought I lacked dignity.
Speaker 4: In the privacy of someone else's home.
Speaker 3: Well, a company clearly know that this is a popular scene,
Speaker 3: because popular fetish when it's not the taste that's being
Speaker 3: put into the capitalist, consumeristic machine. It's the smell. Okay,
Speaker 3: the smell. There is a candle, a candle, Jacob a
Speaker 3: Lord's bathwater, one hundred percent natural soy wax candle, So
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's vegan, vegan, kosher probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Would you enjoy sniffing Jacob's bathwater mine?
Speaker 5: You see, I would have been slipping at as well.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have waited for him to let the water out,
Speaker 5: have joined in?
Speaker 4: Where was this from the lux Candle company?
Speaker 3: All of these products are you know, I don't just
Speaker 3: mean to do with TV shows.
Speaker 2: I mean like beauty.
Speaker 3: Products, candles, perfumes, but usually have really abstract names, don't
Speaker 3: they like mystery or Asia.
Speaker 5: My favorite fragrance is called Tiger, but it's spelt tygar.
Speaker 2: Nonsense, nonsense, not nonsense. You liking it? But the name name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, you might as well call anything anything, mightn't you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that this smells like a soy
Speaker 2: wax candle. That's my prediction.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm a little bit disappointed because when you
Speaker 5: go and order, try and order this twenty four pounds candle,
Speaker 5: what's been to the n Yankee candle? You get the
Speaker 5: choice of comfort spice, sea breeze, or vanilla bean.
Speaker 3: Is comfort spice on one of the postage stamps.
Speaker 2: It's the new sick.
Speaker 4: Member, which is with cushion.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just sat down off the stage. You don't
Speaker 3: see it very often.
Speaker 4: She's comfortable.
Speaker 5: I was just twenty four pounds for a candle I
Speaker 5: was okay with But then you have to change the flap,
Speaker 5: the flavor, the flavor flavor.
Speaker 4: I'd eat it. We've established that already.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So do you recommend I watch saltur and
Speaker 3: should I break my.
Speaker 4: Do you think you should watch it? Okay?
Speaker 5: I know that some people like the gallery got a
Speaker 5: little bit disenfranchised with it and stopped watching it, and
Speaker 5: I completely appreciate the reasons why, but that.
Speaker 4: I think we watch it all the way.
Speaker 3: It's worth it, Okay, well, that's the end of the
Speaker 3: show biz this week.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Tom.
Speaker 5: I'm going to be well drinking someone's bath water later,
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm going to sit in the shower, but yeah,
Speaker 5: stick around. Coming up next as we have Dom's Top Poetry.
Speaker 3: Welcome back, and yes you are watching chewing the cut.
Speaker 5: Now we're going to have something a little different to
Speaker 5: our game of the week as Dominic is going to
Speaker 5: read some of his poetry in Dumb's Top of Poetry. So, dummick,
Speaker 5: are you ready to give us your best top bits?
Speaker 3: I'm ready to share three poems. If that's what you mean,
Speaker 3: exactly what I meant. Fantastic, all right, So here is
Speaker 3: the first and three poems. It goes exactly like this.
Speaker 3: Maybe I am strange, but I want to ask whether
Speaker 3: I'm the only one who wishes.
Speaker 2: More people cried together.
Speaker 3: I see such sadness in the world and often want
Speaker 3: to weep. Don't only mean lonely, subtle sniffles.
Speaker 2: I mean loud howls in a crowd.
Speaker 3: Sometimes my tears won't wait, don't drop privately, they burst
Speaker 3: out publicly, embarrassing me. But I know I need to
Speaker 3: let this upset out.
Speaker 2: No doubt, and.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be shame if we don't aim to keep
Speaker 3: our feelings locked away. So this is my pitch for
Speaker 3: a crying cafe. Imagine somewhere we could all be audibly balling,
Speaker 3: sharing our troubles, sharing a table at a crying cafe.
Speaker 3: If you'd rather be smiling, that is okay. There are
Speaker 3: already plenty of other places for that. But if weepings
Speaker 3: where you're currently at, let's make a data a crying cafe,
Speaker 3: a crime cafe.
Speaker 2: We could open one up today.
Speaker 3: Take me away to the cafe, a welcoming space for
Speaker 3: the wettest face, where we could embrace grief with grace. Oh,
Speaker 3: let's go for some bleary eyed snotty nose tissue soaking.
Speaker 2: I am not joking.
Speaker 3: I'd sincerely love a place where we could all sob safely,
Speaker 3: fairly trade sorrows over the flattest flat white. No sweetener needed,
Speaker 3: a cathartic copper with caring comrades, and nobody is trying
Speaker 3: to correct us. It's not bad to be sad. Everyone
Speaker 3: accepts us. There is nobody saying you're over reacting. There's
Speaker 3: just kind and mindful interacting. We would not need loyalty cards,
Speaker 3: because here we could gain the greatest reward being together,
Speaker 3: feeling together, healing together, weeping when no one would ever
Speaker 3: have to hide, and we could leave with loving connections,
Speaker 3: feeling closer having cried.
Speaker 5: So I like the idea of Crane Cafe. I used
Speaker 5: to do something one of our workplace. We used to
Speaker 5: have a Friday cry. So we used to go into
Speaker 5: a room, me and like two of the colleagues and
Speaker 5: we just cry.
Speaker 2: No way for real, Yeah, a Friday cry.
Speaker 5: It was just the best way of getting all the
Speaker 5: stresses and stuff because it's quite a high pressure job.
Speaker 2: So we used to have a Friday cry and it
Speaker 2: does help.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, Mike, and I've not heard anything like that before,
Speaker 3: and it's brilliant. I am not pretending for one moment
Speaker 3: that I am the person who is the best at
Speaker 3: dealing with other people crying. But I think it's something
Speaker 3: that as a society we often panic over. We don't
Speaker 3: necessarily have the experience and to normalize crying because it's
Speaker 3: such a healthy thing to do, and many a word
Speaker 3: has been written on men crying, and you know, it's
Speaker 3: great for everyone to cry. And that's amazing that your
Speaker 3: workplace had that to happen.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4: It's not a workplace thing. It's me and too color.
Speaker 5: You said we need to have a Friday cry right, well,
Speaker 5: yeah in the Crane Cafe. Are you allowed to do
Speaker 5: happy crying?
Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure, definitely. Yeah, happy crying is good too great.
Speaker 4: So do you have another one of your poems for us?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? All right, second one coming up. So this is
Speaker 3: about another kind of emotion. It's about being at a festival.
Speaker 3: It goes like this, I do not know your name.
Speaker 3: In Glastonbury. We're all defined by mud through rain. We
Speaker 3: dance our names, sliding off into mud, while sing wellies
Speaker 3: leave imprints of laughter across druid drenched earth. When Burke sang,
Speaker 3: it takes courage to enjoy it. I'm sure she was
Speaker 3: singing about Glastonbury mud. It took courage for me to
Speaker 3: enjoy these thousands of voices cheering, when all I had
Speaker 3: ever known from loud crowds was anxiety and beatings. I
Speaker 3: had learned to.
Speaker 2: Fear voices shouting my blood on their fists. Would hide
Speaker 2: at home inside my headphones, break beats, not war mars.
Speaker 3: As a girl, red faced and scared of the world,
Speaker 3: scared of names, hurled stuck to me. Men who called
Speaker 3: me dirty, called me filthy, queer.
Speaker 2: But you do not know my names.
Speaker 3: In Glastonbury, we're all defined by MUDs.
Speaker 2: Through rain.
Speaker 3: We dance our names, sliding off into mud. And now
Speaker 3: my voice joins this applauding chorus thousands in rain coated
Speaker 3: androgyny is ecstatic, grounded harmony. Because we are courage, we
Speaker 3: are joy, we are dirty, we are filthy, we are mud.
Speaker 4: I like mud.
Speaker 5: Because it's treated big festivals like Glastow it is. It's
Speaker 5: a thing that everybody has on them. It doesn't matter
Speaker 5: what you're doing coming from you are covered in mud,
Speaker 5: even if it's sunny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been twenty particularly joyful festivals might have.
Speaker 4: Been to a couple.
Speaker 5: But I think the thing that I most took away
Speaker 5: from a festival was the fact that you can never
Speaker 5: run through a camp site. You can only ever run
Speaker 5: through a camp site because it's always past tense.
Speaker 2: Right. Should I do the final?
Speaker 4: I think we should think we should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so my final three day.
Speaker 3: I'm usually quite loud when I say my poems, but
Speaker 3: I've chosen like a gentler one to end on.
Speaker 4: This has to become one of your poems.
Speaker 3: The two become one of my poems. That's not going
Speaker 3: on tour posts as that quote. It is not. This
Speaker 3: is called I Am. It goes like this. It's sunny.
Speaker 3: I am running in the park. Two puppies play. I
Speaker 3: see a bird fly close to me, then watch it
Speaker 3: for away. There's rhythm in my running, grounded rhythm in
Speaker 3: my feet. A thought is coming close to me and
Speaker 3: feeling my heart beat. This thought calls me a loser.
Speaker 3: This thought tells me I'm cursed. This thought predicts a
Speaker 3: future where this thought says, fear the worst. The ones
Speaker 3: you love will leave you, and you will break down
Speaker 3: and cry, and no one else will care when they
Speaker 3: all die or say goodbye. I see this thought come
Speaker 3: close to me, then watch it fly away. I let
Speaker 3: it go. I know the truth. I watch the puppies play.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: I am not stress or fear. I'm here, I am
Speaker 3: not rage. I'm here, I am not sorrow, and my
Speaker 3: feelings aren't a cage. I am the rhythm of a breath.
Speaker 3: The puppies race and bark. The air is soft. The
Speaker 3: sun shines on these games played in the park, and
Speaker 3: when I watch the puppies play, their joy is all
Speaker 3: I see. I share a rhythm with today, A perfect
Speaker 3: place to be.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: Was a lot more slow and a little softer than
Speaker 5: the other ones. Yeah, definitely the two become one of
Speaker 5: your poems.
Speaker 3: And references to dogs. I know how close you are
Speaker 3: to your Yes, Yes.
Speaker 5: I do enjoy a puppy reference and an inference about doggie.
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to go. My heart felt
Speaker 2: tend to bow him. I thought, yeah, that's where my.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, stick around because after this break, it's
Speaker 3: time for Dominic to give me his knowledge as he
Speaker 3: teaches me a lesson. Welcome back to you in the
Speaker 3: good Now, we take a deep breath, relax, and get
Speaker 3: ready to be rammed with some knowledge.
Speaker 4: In teach me a lesson.
Speaker 2: Look at my classroom. How good is this? I've got fish,
Speaker 2: I've got fish leaping out book. How good is that? Right? Right?
Speaker 3: Right? I'm ready for some no knowledge ramming. That's what
Speaker 3: this is about. And I have asked Mike to do
Speaker 3: a bit of homework. Right, so, you've not been a
Speaker 3: bad student. You've done this. It was simple home work
Speaker 3: all I asked, was one phrase like you know, a
Speaker 3: sentence a lie. Doesn't have to be like clever, I asked, Mike,
Speaker 3: don't think about it too much. Just something that would
Speaker 3: be like the center of what the poem's going to
Speaker 3: be about.
Speaker 2: Just one simple line.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't want you to say what it is yet, Mike,
Speaker 3: but do you do you have a line?
Speaker 5: So yeah, on Lake, It's like all the way through
Speaker 5: my scholastic career, I have actually done.
Speaker 3: Her work okay, and I have got my phrase lovely lovely.
Speaker 3: So I write poems to be spoken aloud.
Speaker 2: And how I'm going to.
Speaker 3: School you today is creating a poem with the intent
Speaker 3: of it to be heard. Because there are differences between
Speaker 3: a poem that only exists on the page and a
Speaker 3: poem to perform, I would say that a repeated phrase
Speaker 3: is one device that could be helpful. So I'm going
Speaker 3: to encourage you to think about including this phrase.
Speaker 2: More than once. More than once.
Speaker 3: In my Glastonbury Mud poem, I kept referring to that
Speaker 3: crying cafe.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is your.
Speaker 3: Opening line, though, what you've got I think I think
Speaker 3: it might it might even be the last line. Maybe
Speaker 3: what you write arrived to that perhaps or maybe like
Speaker 3: crime Cafe, I brought that concept in about a quarter
Speaker 3: of the way through.
Speaker 2: So that's step one. Step two.
Speaker 3: I would encourage, you know, essentially, i'd encourage a rhyming poem. Okay,
Speaker 3: not all poems have to rhyme, but I would encourage
Speaker 3: a rhyming poem. For performance, people listen differently to rhymes.
Speaker 3: I think that it's it's an easier way to access
Speaker 3: something for the first time, because in performance it's all
Speaker 3: about that immediate grab.
Speaker 2: That immediate grab.
Speaker 4: Oh, I do like being grabbed a media. Yes, So.
Speaker 2: Have you got enough with which to say? I have started,
Speaker 2: I have com You've already s died, right right? Do
Speaker 2: you know what? I'm going to keep on wittering while
Speaker 2: you're writing all I probably will.
Speaker 5: Ask some questions because I've got written poetry since I
Speaker 5: was an angsty teenager.
Speaker 3: Keep coming back to that line. This is why I
Speaker 3: asked you think of it. So your rhymes should be
Speaker 3: words that guide you towards that that theme.
Speaker 2: Even if you you.
Speaker 3: Don't repeat the line I gave you all the time,
Speaker 3: whether you do or don't, use that as your anchor,
Speaker 3: use that as your compass. Use that as your point
Speaker 3: that you don't end up with lines that are too
Speaker 3: confusing or not on topic. You want to use this
Speaker 3: line to make sure that what you say gives the
Speaker 3: listener a clear journey.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think this is and what rhymes with.
Speaker 3: Sucks blocks not like the Chemical Brothers block rocking beats. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can just write chemical or the lyrics down there
Speaker 3: because that works. Yeah, absolutely, definitely, definitely, So I would
Speaker 3: encourage a narrative to a performance. Time doesn't have to be,
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be, but if like a story, you've
Speaker 3: got like a beginning, middle, and end, that could be
Speaker 3: a helpful way to structure a poem before you start
Speaker 3: thinking about whether there's a rhythm or anything like that,
Speaker 3: just just knowing where the poem's going.
Speaker 2: So with the Glastonbury.
Speaker 3: Mud poem, the last line we are mud was actually
Speaker 3: the first concept I I sort of came up with,
Speaker 3: and I thought, well, is there a way to incorporate
Speaker 3: that into into a journey like mud?
Speaker 2: Is it disgusting? Is it to be celebrating? Is it joyful?
Speaker 4: What the you know?
Speaker 3: And having that phrase mean different things at different points
Speaker 3: of the poem, that has sort of happened naturally. A
Speaker 3: big thing is just to get it written, though, don't
Speaker 3: think too much, because just get it out there, because
Speaker 3: I think I often am putting loads.
Speaker 2: Of pressure on myself.
Speaker 3: This next poem you write has to be as good
Speaker 3: as every other poem you've ever written, and every other
Speaker 3: poet that every other poet has written. And that's an impossibility.
Speaker 3: I think that when we just get something on paper,
Speaker 3: if the rhyme maybe isn't as strong as we want
Speaker 3: it to be, or the central theme isn't as you
Speaker 3: know things like they say, it is malleable.
Speaker 2: We can keep working, we can keep editing, we can
Speaker 2: keep changing things. So I think stopping before you've.
Speaker 3: Started is a common problem and something that I often do.
Speaker 3: And this is why I said that your line you
Speaker 3: came up with might not be the first line. I
Speaker 3: think a rookie way to begin is that I've got
Speaker 3: a great first line and then you've used up all
Speaker 3: your best ideas in your opening, Whereas to have that
Speaker 3: great line or important line to you as something that
Speaker 3: maybe you come to court the way through or maybe
Speaker 3: not even until the end of the pipe, gives you
Speaker 3: a place your heading.
Speaker 2: And that's really helpful. I think to almost work backwards
Speaker 2: to me, Like I know I want to say we
Speaker 2: are MUDs. I need to explain what that means. Crying cafe,
Speaker 2: crying cafe.
Speaker 3: Before I use the phrase crying cafe, I set up
Speaker 3: the premise of why crying is significant to me, so
Speaker 3: that journey is really really helpful. And again a big
Speaker 3: difference between poems that are only for the pages is
Speaker 3: if someone's got a book, they can really take their
Speaker 3: time with more enigmatic concepts, more lyrical themes. And if
Speaker 3: you're writing to be performed, I think I think we're
Speaker 3: looking for that immediacye which is which is helpful when
Speaker 3: we're creating helpful to be thinking?
Speaker 4: Does this?
Speaker 2: They can be extra layers.
Speaker 3: Oh, here's what I get from the poem on a
Speaker 3: first listen, Here's what you might not necessarily get to
Speaker 3: a fifth or sixth lesson listen.
Speaker 4: But again, like just an interruption, is rotum a word?
Speaker 2: Non?
Speaker 4: Can you use made up words or do they have
Speaker 4: to be actual words?
Speaker 3: You could bloat them, you could float them.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I don't think you want to float what
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: I think that consistency is important. So in answer to
Speaker 3: your question, can you use made up words only if
Speaker 3: you've used the early in the poem. This is why
Speaker 3: I said for the homework, come up with the theme
Speaker 3: the anchor, the compass. Even if you don't use that
Speaker 3: phrase repeatedly, even if you use it once in your head,
Speaker 3: it's been the thing that's grounded you, to stop you
Speaker 3: going off too much of a tangent. I think that
Speaker 3: being on topic is so important to a poem which
Speaker 3: is performed.
Speaker 2: Really crucial.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, well, I think I think I've come up
Speaker 3: with something.
Speaker 4: Really that is quick in my heart as well.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, why am I already shuddering at
Speaker 3: the thought what that might be?
Speaker 5: The fact I've actually to run something with. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: thank you for teaching me that lesson dumb.
Speaker 3: A joy, a joy, lots of information went in my brain.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is very good, oh now, but
Speaker 3: it's very true to me. All right, let's see, Okay,
Speaker 3: in springtimes, embrace you bloom so bright in tailored shirts
Speaker 3: of linen, a charming sight. Colours like petals, soft and sublime.
Speaker 3: But your gooch smells disgusting.
Speaker 4: Not yours.
Speaker 5: Summer's heat are fashion feet, shorts and shades and look
Speaker 5: so sweet. Some kissed alow in the warmest glow, but
Speaker 5: your gooch smells disgusting. Autumn leaves and hues of gold
Speaker 5: gray joggers are story unfolds style whispers through the crisp air,
Speaker 5: but your gooch smells disgusting. Winter's chill a fashion thrill,
Speaker 5: woolen scarves and jackets still snowflakes dance as elegance thrives.
Speaker 4: But your gooch smells disgusting.
Speaker 5: Through the seasons, you wear with grace, yet the truth
Speaker 5: remains a particular embrace. Your goot smells disgusting, but I
Speaker 5: do love the taste.
Speaker 2: Well, much like salt burn, there is a twist.
Speaker 4: A theme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, well you you did it, didn't you put
Speaker 3: the phrase in?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 3: That was quite literally a repetition of that That really
Speaker 3: helps hearing a poem.
Speaker 4: It was easier.
Speaker 3: That's funny, really, So that's that's my half asked attempt
Speaker 3: half what it's actually with some great poetry.
Speaker 4: Where are you going to be?
Speaker 3: Ah? Do you know what I'm not allowed to say.
Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to say, but teaser, trainer, teas trailer.
Speaker 3: I know last year, last year I didn't go twenty
Speaker 3: of the festivals.
Speaker 4: Okay, I am this.
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to say which.
Speaker 3: In fact, some of them are penciled, but but one
Speaker 3: big one is exciting. So yeah, so I'm going to
Speaker 3: be so just check out my website, my name Dominic
Speaker 3: berry dot now. I'll update everything on there when I'm
Speaker 3: allowed to say.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, we shall be following up. We'll be on
Speaker 4: social media posts why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the poet Dominic on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure we will reshare when that announcement comes
Speaker 5: out as well.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for watching. I will see you all soon.
Speaker 3: Bye bye, thank like Tennisee