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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that was the American way on full display today.

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<v Speaker 3>Truly one of the most extraordinary days in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of the American presidency and a profoundly.

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<v Speaker 2>Important day for the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And hey, coming into today, I did not see that

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<v Speaker 3>one coming, right. I mean, we had planned to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the President meeting with Selensky, getting the mineral rights

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<v Speaker 3>deal done, et cetera. But what we saw on fold

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<v Speaker 3>today is going to shape events for many many years

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<v Speaker 3>to come, and shape them in a very positive way

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<v Speaker 3>in ways far beyond I think what's being talked about

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<v Speaker 3>right now. So looking forward to getting into that with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Three or three seven, one, three eight, two, five five

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<v Speaker 3>seven three nine. Of course, today's sound is king and

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<v Speaker 3>we have a lot of sound to play for you

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<v Speaker 3>from what unfolded in the Oval Office. If by now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you've seen some clips, you've heard some sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully heard Ryan Schuling's great show if you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>Denver market, he does it two to four every afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>What I did once I saw this story unfolding is

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and I watched the entire Oval Office session,

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<v Speaker 3>because most of these clips come from about ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>worth of action at the end, and believe me, every

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<v Speaker 3>minute of it is worth it. Two you, and one

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<v Speaker 3>thing we're going to do at some point in the

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<v Speaker 3>show today, hopefully earlier and later, is we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>play you the full ten minutes uninterrupted, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>little challenging given our clock, but we're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>that because there's something about watching it just unfold in hole.

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<v Speaker 3>But I watched the entire I think it was about

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five minutes of Zelenski and Trump in the Oval Office,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was so much in there that's important. It

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<v Speaker 3>helps explain what came at the end. But anxious to

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<v Speaker 3>get your take and give you mine. Three or three

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<v Speaker 3>someone three A two five five of the number text

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<v Speaker 3>have no interest in this life changing event today, truly

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<v Speaker 3>unprecedented in the history of the American presidency. Then some

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<v Speaker 3>local news of note it looks like Michael Bennett, Senator

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<v Speaker 3>Bellow is thinking about running for governor. I assume, from

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<v Speaker 3>the fact his staff leaked the story to Ernest Learning,

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<v Speaker 3>very respected political reporter, expect at this point that Bennett

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<v Speaker 3>is probably getting into the race. So we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>that later. Raises a lot of interesting questions. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>play here? So you're going to leave early and then

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<v Speaker 3>Paulus points himself to his seat or appoints somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But that will have to wait for another day because

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<v Speaker 3>what happened today is going to, I think, have such

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<v Speaker 3>a dramatic impact on the world right now. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a dramatic impact on the Republican Party nationally.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it carries over to Colorado, I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 3>can tell at this point. But let's start with some

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<v Speaker 3>of the key sound. If you've heard it already, then

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<v Speaker 3>you want to hear it again. If you haven't heard it,

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<v Speaker 3>you really do need to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I play this just for kind of funny background.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a cut one, uh, President Trump having a

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<v Speaker 3>little fun with President Soelenski's appearance when Selensky showed up

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<v Speaker 3>at the White House today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, he's all dressed up today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so President Zelensky had showed up rather than in

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<v Speaker 2>I know some people have an issue with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had an issue at all with Selensky deciding

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<v Speaker 2>I get the point. I don't think it's disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought the questioner of Zelensky on that today

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really sad because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, in my short lifetime, you know, outside of our

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<v Speaker 3>amazing American armed forces, it's very hard to point to

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<v Speaker 3>as fighters, and they deserve everybody's admiration. And one thing

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<v Speaker 3>his way to praise the bravery and courage.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Ukrainian people.

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<v Speaker 3>He was extremely polite that way, which made it even

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<v Speaker 3>more bizarre that Selensa he then decides to do the

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<v Speaker 3>So as we start to get into the more complete sound,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things I think we have to keep

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<v Speaker 3>in mind is the very real possibility that Zelensky came

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<v Speaker 3>peace deal is signed. It may very well be that

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<v Speaker 3>Selensky had decided that he was not willing to sign

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<v Speaker 3>and that he was going to resign before that deal

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<v Speaker 3>this stage today to go after Trump and to go

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<v Speaker 3>after JD.

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<v Speaker 3>Because one thing that really struck me as I watched

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<v Speaker 3>Vance as JD and addressing Vance in a very condescending

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<v Speaker 3>very pre planned. So don't be surprised if that's the

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate play that Selenski wanted to go out today taking

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<v Speaker 3>shots at Trump and JD. Vance, which is really twisted

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<v Speaker 3>when you think about it, because it's Europe, as I've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying for many months on this show, it's Europe

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<v Speaker 3>that abandoned Ukraine, and everybody should be upset that raw evil,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's satan. Putin is satan. That raw evil

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<v Speaker 3>is going to win here to a certain extent and

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get territory when Putin in fact, should

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<v Speaker 3>be tried on war crimes and imprisoned for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of his life. So it's sick that Putin's going to

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<v Speaker 3>gain anything here. But don't blame Trump. Trump's playing the

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<v Speaker 3>hero here by ending the bloodshed. The reason that Putin

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<v Speaker 3>of Europe, because Europe would not stand up for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I said in the very beginning, it was

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<v Speaker 3>obvious the only way that Ukraine was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>and it has and it still is, was for Europe

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<v Speaker 3>to prove it was willing to put boots on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>And Europe made it very clear early on that it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Ukraine needed warriors and it got cheerleaders from Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was Europe's chance to stand up and protect

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<v Speaker 3>its continent from the evil in Putin. Europe was unwilling

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<v Speaker 3>in this agreement. But do not blame Trump. None of

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<v Speaker 3>this is Trump's fault. So when Zelenski today tried to

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<v Speaker 3>Obama and Biden, because remember Putin didn't go into Ukraine

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<v Speaker 3>when Trump was president. No, he went in when Biden

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<v Speaker 3>was president. He went in and took Ukraine. Biden was president.

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<v Speaker 3>He went in and took Ukraine when Obama was president

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<v Speaker 3>and he went after Crimea. So it was so intellectually

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<v Speaker 3>For Zelensky today to try to blame Trump for Crimea,

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<v Speaker 3>that was weird. And so I'm so impressed with Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's another takeaway from me today, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump did so much to advance world peace today,

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<v Speaker 3>not just in Ukraine. That's going to happen right for

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons we've discussed, not just in Ukraine but around

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<v Speaker 3>the world, because think about the polar opposites. Evil around

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<v Speaker 3>the world has been feasting on the Biden presidency because

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't have a president, and so they've been feasting

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<v Speaker 3>on that. It was even worse than not having a president.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a president who they knew would not fight back.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you go from that to Trump, who today

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<v Speaker 3>not only took all the right positions, but Trump I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was so in control. He had such a range,

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<v Speaker 3>he had such a range of emotions, of abilities, of gears.

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<v Speaker 3>Was you know, I talk about trial lawyers this way.

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<v Speaker 3>I try a lot of cases. You have trial lawyers

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<v Speaker 3>who are kind of one trick ponies. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>have one gear, and it may be a great gear,

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<v Speaker 3>but they got one gear. And then you've got people

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<v Speaker 3>who have multiple gears and they can handle a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of different scenarios very well. Trump had multiple gears today

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<v Speaker 3>in a very demanding situation against a very determined opponent,

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<v Speaker 3>and Zelensky made himself Trump's opponent today. Trump didn't make

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky his opponent. And Trump was able to stay cool

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<v Speaker 3>when that made sense, he was able to get angry

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<v Speaker 3>when that made sense.

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<v Speaker 2>He was able to be articulate throughout it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're one of these many evil leaders around

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<v Speaker 3>the world, and if you're one of our allies who

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<v Speaker 3>runs and hides when they think it's better for them,

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<v Speaker 3>you look at Trump today and and you're thinking you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to mess with him. And Jade Vance, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, took a big step I think toward locking

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<v Speaker 3>up the nomination for twenty eight. Anyway, we're gonna come back,

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<v Speaker 3>dive into the sound and just to get your take.

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<v Speaker 3>Three or three someone three eight two five five text

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<v Speaker 3>the Dan Caplas Show.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplass show podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to

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<v Speaker 6>end the destruction of your country.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but if you have a president.

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<v Speaker 6>With respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come

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<v Speaker 6>into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in

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<v Speaker 6>front of the American media. Right now, you guys are

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<v Speaker 6>going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because

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<v Speaker 6>you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president

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<v Speaker 6>for every to bring it into this.

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<v Speaker 7>Company, let them into Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>That you say, what problems we have? I have been

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Come on, I have actually I've actually watched and seen

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<v Speaker 6>the stories and I know what happens is you bring people,

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<v Speaker 6>you bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president, are

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<v Speaker 6>do you disagree that you've had problems? What bringing people

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<v Speaker 6>in your military?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that respect alants to come to the

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<v Speaker 7>Lot of questions, Let's start from the biggest or fist

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<v Speaker 2>In the issob? What an sob? I'm sorry, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>and Putin is satan. But what Zelensky was doing today

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<v Speaker 3>and that has nothing to do with Ukraine. The Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 3>better than what they're going to end up with here.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the fault of Europe. Europe would not stand

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<v Speaker 2>On the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Money fine, as long as the money, has a plan

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<v Speaker 3>to win, but that's never what Biden was doing. And

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, the people of Ukraine deserve much much better.

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<v Speaker 3>But President Trump's being a hero here to stop the killing.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you watch the full fifty five minutes of

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<v Speaker 3>This is not an equivalence in my mind. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's fault, and Trump is in a unique position to

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<v Speaker 3>try to stop the killing. So what Zelensky today did,

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<v Speaker 3>I think was one of the most selfish things I've

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<v Speaker 2>That's sick stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you so impressed because you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>That's not easy, and they did it extraordinarily well. And

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<v Speaker 3>attack our president and vice president and get away with it,

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<v Speaker 3>that would have invited so much more war. That would

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<v Speaker 3>have that would have undermined peace through strength. But they

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<v Speaker 3>for it. And the world will be better off when

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky is off the stage, because the Ukrainian people deserve

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you Putin went through a hell of

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<v Speaker 4>He went through a phony witch hunt where they used

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<v Speaker 4>him in Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. You ever hear of

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<v Speaker 4>that deal?

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<v Speaker 2>There was a phony.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam, Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 2>Had to go through that, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't end up in a war. And he went

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<v Speaker 4>He was accused of all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 4>It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. He came out

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<v Speaker 2>And then Trump goes on with Selensky cut six. Please

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<v Speaker 2>r All I can.

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<v Speaker 4>Say is this, he might have broken deals with Obama

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<v Speaker 4>and Bush, and he might have broken them with Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>He did maybe maybe he did.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened, but he didn't break them

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to make a deal. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you can make a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 2>States are very brave. But you're either going to make

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<v Speaker 4>And if we're out, you'll fight it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty, but you'll fight it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't have the cards. But once we.

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<v Speaker 4>Sign that deal, you're in a much better position. But

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not a nice thing. I'll be honest, that's

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that was weaving throughout all

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<v Speaker 3>again in the next segment where's the Lyinsky then starts

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<v Speaker 3>The European countries need to step up. And then Selinsky

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<v Speaker 3>Trump really jumped in and fired up, as he should have.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, what do you think grind My premise is

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<v Speaker 3>was just trying to position himself for his next career

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<v Speaker 3>because what he did today was not intended to help

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I have to agree or analysis is sound. It's

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<v Speaker 8>the only thing that really explains it, because why else

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<v Speaker 8>He's on our turf, he's a guest at our White

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<v Speaker 8>It was really beneath the office of President of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 8>And I thought Trump, all things considered, measured himself and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it goes back to my theory that none

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was about positioning Zolensky on the world stage,

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<v Speaker 3>elevating him among Trump haters, elevating him in Europe, at

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<v Speaker 3>deserve a lot better than that. Three or three someone

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<v Speaker 3>three eight, two five five more that sound when we

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What a day literally never.

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<v Speaker 3>A day like it an American presidential history, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the finest days in American presidential history. And how great

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<v Speaker 3>for the American people to be able to see that

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<v Speaker 3>on fold and be able to see just how sharp

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<v Speaker 3>and strong and adept both Trump and JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance are.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's going to make the world a safer place,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's really going to help the GOP

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<v Speaker 3>and its candidates, and the other way it's going to help, right,

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<v Speaker 3>is that Democrats can't help themselves. So Democrats are already

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<v Speaker 3>in part because guess what, this issue was litigated in

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine. The American people don't want an ongoing war

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine. Trump ran on that clear contrast with the

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, this is a great, great day for

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<v Speaker 3>In many ways, and really good to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>Deserve so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>The next segment.

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<v Speaker 3>A few of the text I want to get to Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>you must have been watching a different meeting than I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Embarrassing and uncalled for performance by Potus and VP up

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<v Speaker 3>against the victim of Russian aggression. Boy, I wish that

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<v Speaker 3>Russian aggressions and understatement. This was an evil rape and

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<v Speaker 3>pillage of Ukraine by perhaps the most evil leader in

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<v Speaker 3>to stop the bloodshed and the fact that Europe would

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<v Speaker 3>I think Zelensky really hurt his own people's cause today.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that was his priority. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he was there for himself and for the next twenty

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<v Speaker 3>or thirty years of his life, being the hero who

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<v Speaker 3>stood up to Trump in the Oval Office, even though

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<v Speaker 3>it screwed his own people. Dan, the exchange today made

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<v Speaker 3>me feel a Texter says like trump advance rocket launched

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<v Speaker 3>the United States into the atmosphere, the ultimate superpower on

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<v Speaker 3>this planet that from no code, Dan, Dan, you are right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you watch the.

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<v Speaker 3>Entire press conference, Trump was incredibly measured and even gracious

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<v Speaker 3>while he let Selensky ran for a while, while Trump

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<v Speaker 3>seemed as he was genuinely there for the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know you probably don't have time this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you do, sit down and watch the full

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<v Speaker 3>fifty minutes, just google it up on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to find.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll try to post it to at Dan Caplis on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 3>the full fifty minutes and you can see how patient

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<v Speaker 3>Trump was, how he kept his cool for so long,

446
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<v Speaker 3>but Zelensky was determined not to let Trump keep his cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was a remarkable, remarkable mistake by Zelensky. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was intentional by Zelensky, but a mistake

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of his own people. Texter says, Dan, the

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<v Speaker 3>Ukrainian people are the real criminals. And you know it

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<v Speaker 3>that Texter is either mentally ill or inebriated or tongue

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<v Speaker 3>in cheek, because I don't think any reason person can

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<v Speaker 3>look at the Ukrainian people and say there anything other

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<v Speaker 3>than incredibly strong and courageous. And again, they deserve much

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<v Speaker 3>better than what Selensky gave him today. They deserve much

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<v Speaker 3>better than being invaded by Putin. But what Selensky gave

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<v Speaker 3>them today was a grave disservice to a great people.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric from Wheatridge, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.

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<v Speaker 9>Welcome Dan, Hi, Dan, thanks for having me on. Sure,

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<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to give you my point of view.

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<v Speaker 9>I am not a Zolensky guy. I was thinking that

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<v Speaker 9>maybe Chum coming in had some dirt on him, like

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<v Speaker 9>graft Wise, that he was going to use to in

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<v Speaker 9>his negotiations. But it doesn't seem like that is the case.

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<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to say, don't you think that Dolensky's

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<v Speaker 9>actions could be those of a man who is passionately

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<v Speaker 9>into the fight for his country.

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, And here's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you are passionately into the fight for your

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<v Speaker 3>country and and your sole purpose is to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that your people prevail and get the best deal possible,

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing you would do is to come into

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<v Speaker 3>the Oval office and intentionally repeatedly criticize Trump, contradict Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>mock Trump. No, if you cared about your people, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing you do. Because tell me this, Eric,

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<v Speaker 3>how is that approach supposed to help you the Ukrainian people?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 9>I uh, did he think he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going to bully Did he think he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to bully Trump into a better deal?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 9>I think I think like you're right about him going

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<v Speaker 9>in there with a kind of madman's attitude, or I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>you're you're you're saying that he is, that he'd want

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<v Speaker 9>wants to you know, fields and all that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to make the point, and it might

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<v Speaker 9>be a silly one given a totally different context, but

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<v Speaker 9>church you know Churchill, one that's said one that said, well,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, we're bound to lose the war, so we

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<v Speaker 9>might as well make a deal, now, you know what

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<v Speaker 9>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And is that reference? Is that reference to Trump or Zelensky?

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<v Speaker 3>The Churchill reference?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I've heard a lot of comment peters say

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<v Speaker 9>saying that the starting point is Ukraine is not going

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<v Speaker 9>to win the war, so they need to they need

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<v Speaker 9>to make a deal. But that's not a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Right But let's go back to and and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for raising Churchill. Let's go back to that example. Churchill

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<v Speaker 3>knew that he needed the United States of America for

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<v Speaker 3>his nation to survive, right and uh, just like Zelensky does.

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<v Speaker 3>And the last thing in the world Churchill ever would

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<v Speaker 3>have done was to come in and sit down with

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<v Speaker 3>FDR in front of the national media and to ridicule FDR,

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<v Speaker 3>to criticize FDR, to blame FDR for the plight of England.

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<v Speaker 2>It's suicidal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the last thing Churchill would have done.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sure you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I appreciate the call, Eric, thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for that, and I hope you have a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly believe just looking at it right now, it

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<v Speaker 3>has to be one of two things. In my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>it has to be either Selensky snapped right, Zelensky just

514
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<v Speaker 3>had a psychotic break and he lost control of himself,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just started saying a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 3>he's been thinking and angry about, no matter what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cost to his country.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's either that or it's I think infinitely more

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<v Speaker 3>likely Selinsky realizes that the war is over and Putin

520
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<v Speaker 3>is going to win in too much because Europe did

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<v Speaker 3>not back Selenski, and Zelensky is looking at his future.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a relatively young man right, looking at his future,

523
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<v Speaker 3>and his future is going to be in Europe, probably

524
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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of his time in Ukraine, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in Europe. And so he's positioning himself as

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<v Speaker 3>a hero in Europe, a hero across Europe who stood

527
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<v Speaker 3>up to Trump in the Oval office, mock Trump criticized Trump,

528
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<v Speaker 3>Paul Trump, he was wrong about things. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>this was all about Zelensky. And remember, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy what magazine was it Vanity Fair or one of

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<v Speaker 3>the other ones, or was it any leebo its whoever?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy, Zolensky who did a glamour shoot

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning of the war, you know, with one

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<v Speaker 3>of the big magazines and one of the big glamour photographers.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's what today was all about with

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski and what a grave disservice to the people of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hit this brake, we'll come back and we'll play

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<v Speaker 3>that ten minutes in close to its tirty.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad You're with us.

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<v Speaker 3>I had wanted to play the full ten minutes segment

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<v Speaker 3>in this break, but I went a little long in

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<v Speaker 3>the last one, and so let's save it for five

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<v Speaker 3>oh six. Okay, But I think you're really going to

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear the full ten minutes together. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you can't stay and listen to it on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>then sometime over the weekend dig it up, because just

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<v Speaker 3>watching the whole ten minutes at the end consecutively really

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<v Speaker 3>really powerful, and you know, we're playing well put together cliffs,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To see that the thing as a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what you really want to see you probably

553
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<v Speaker 3>won't have time for it, but you really want to

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<v Speaker 3>see is the full fifty five minutes the entire Oval

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<v Speaker 3>office session.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be so impressed with President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're already angry with Selensky as I am,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you'll be more angry with him and even

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<v Speaker 3>more impressed with Trump if you watch the full fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes. And the reason I'm angry with them is

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<v Speaker 3>the Ukrainian people deserve better. In my heart, and God

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<v Speaker 3>forgive me if I'm wrong, I may be, but in

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<v Speaker 3>my heart I believe that today Zelenski was just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to posture for his future career at.

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<v Speaker 2>The expense of the Ukrainian people.

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<v Speaker 3>Because first he was wrong on substance when he's contradicting

567
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<v Speaker 3>Trump and taunting Trunk and mocking jd Vance. And second,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just very, very bad for the Ukrainian people. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking about the break, and then we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the phone lines I was talking about before

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<v Speaker 3>the break, about my personal belief watching this today that

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky's trying to set himself up for his next career

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<v Speaker 3>be some hero of Europe for taking Trump on in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oval Office.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember this is a guy, and thanks to the Texters

576
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<v Speaker 3>who texted in on this, this is the guy Zelenski

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<v Speaker 3>who just a few months into the war while his

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<v Speaker 3>people his brave Ukrainian people, what great fighters are just

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<v Speaker 3>being killed.

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<v Speaker 2>By the thousands.

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<v Speaker 3>He sits down and poses for a photoshoot with Vogue

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<v Speaker 3>and Annie leebo So if you don't think this guy

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<v Speaker 3>is very much about Selensky and is thinking about his

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<v Speaker 3>future and how he wants to be portrayed in his

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<v Speaker 3>next career, I mean this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>His people are out.

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<v Speaker 3>Bleeding and dying in the trenches and he's posing for

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<v Speaker 3>photos with any Leeboitz. Here's one photo and it's Selensky

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<v Speaker 3>with his arms around his beautiful wife, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>caption says, of course she is my love, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>my greatest friend, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it goes on to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say the first lady wears Ukrainian designers such as Better Sick, Savoya,

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<v Speaker 3>the Coat, Kasha Trova, etc. So he's sitting down for

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<v Speaker 3>some fashion shoot with any Leeboitz at the beginning of

596
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<v Speaker 3>the war. So if you doubt for a second that

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<v Speaker 3>as he was sitting in the Oval office today he

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking about how he's going to be treated around

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<v Speaker 3>Europe very soon when he leaves office. Yeah, yeah, consider

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<v Speaker 3>my theory. I think it's the best one out there, right, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, Ryan little trivia question and who who

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<v Speaker 3>on this program was photographed by Annie Leeboitz?

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<v Speaker 1>Not me?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh not? You must have been Kelly then No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not Kelly. Not Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we'll give that some more thought. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>probably the only portraits she ever did that she didn't publish.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would that what would that tell you?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, there's a story here that you're not

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<v Speaker 5>telling your.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no. We were out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was covering the O. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Simpson trial and Annie Leeboitz asked to take some pictures

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<v Speaker 3>and so, you know, but she soon found out that

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<v Speaker 3>that I am I'm maybe the single least photogenic person

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, which is really it's kind of appropriate

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<v Speaker 3>because my wife and my daughter they're probably the two

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<v Speaker 3>most photogenic people.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, there has never been a good picture

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<v Speaker 3>of me taken never. They can't even photoshop. But do

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<v Speaker 3>we have a Justin from Littleton? Is he still with us?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah, Well let's you still alive on Jack. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Justin.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Dan, He're right, I want to take a slightly

627
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<v Speaker 10>different opinion here. I'm sure you guys have never been

628
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<v Speaker 10>the Ukraine, don't have the Ukrainian I'm going to have.

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<v Speaker 10>He just set the base here is the Lynsky was

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<v Speaker 10>about to be murdered by poon on the first two

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<v Speaker 10>three days of the war. They sent him special operators.

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<v Speaker 10>I think either because of a Russian league or probably

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<v Speaker 10>our Cia or something. That he wasn't assassinated. He could

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<v Speaker 10>have left what's his name, President Ghani from Afghanistan and

635
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<v Speaker 10>he slay out with a helicopter fal of gold the

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<v Speaker 10>second Teleban came in. So I don't think he is

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<v Speaker 10>that selfish to be honest. Now, did he handle everything right?

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<v Speaker 10>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, but thank you, and let's address that point

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<v Speaker 3>first and then take all the time you want. I

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<v Speaker 3>have praised Lensky in the past on this show multiple times,

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<v Speaker 3>including for what you just referred to, and that the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that, remember what happened at the beginning of the war.

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<v Speaker 3>People say Trump is Putin's puppet. It's the opposite. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean Putin went into Crimea under Obama, he went into

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine under Biden. He didn't go in under Trump. But

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<v Speaker 3>remember it was Biden who tried to get Selensky out

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<v Speaker 3>of there in the first two days, which would have

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<v Speaker 3>handed the victory to Putin. So Biden offered Zelensky a

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<v Speaker 3>flight out. So I praised Putin for stain that pardon me,

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<v Speaker 3>not Putin. I would never praise him. He's Satan, He's

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<v Speaker 3>the devil on earth. I praised Zelensky for stay then,

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, listen, it's just one more

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<v Speaker 3>quick thought, my friend, to your good question. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to look at that from a selfish standpoint, wait

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<v Speaker 3>a second. If selfishly speaking, if Selensky had left the country,

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<v Speaker 3>then he would have been he would have been humiliated

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<v Speaker 3>and despised around the world. There's nowhere he could have gone.

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<v Speaker 3>So even though it was dangerous to stay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he also had some personal reasons to stay.

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<v Speaker 10>Trip go ahead, please, man, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>and Ghani would have been humiliated way and he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 10>Nobody ever heard him again. So let's fast forward to

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<v Speaker 10>the future. Right now, right, Ukrainians are dying five hundred

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<v Speaker 10>one thousand a day, a Russian thousand and fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 10>a day. I get it, said, Zolensky said it. In

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<v Speaker 10>my opinion, that deal was way too early. What they

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<v Speaker 10>were saying about each other a week or two ago.

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<v Speaker 10>Then he comes in really quick. It seemed like a

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<v Speaker 10>very rush deal on Friday to come in to sign

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<v Speaker 10>this mineral rights. That was too quick, right, Obviously they

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<v Speaker 10>had emotions. He should have waited a little bit. In

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<v Speaker 10>my opinion, they probably should have talked it out. Zolensky. Yes,

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<v Speaker 10>the world stage, you know, Vogue whatever, it was a

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<v Speaker 10>PR war from almost the beginning. Because he is the

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<v Speaker 10>most supportive they could get the GDP and Ukraine's won

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<v Speaker 10>thirty five hundred and four thousand a year, So lucky

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<v Speaker 10>Hoody and you Dan, we weren't we weren't well, we

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<v Speaker 10>weren't born in Ukraine. We'd probably you know, be dead

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<v Speaker 10>in a hole when we were twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're doubting that his Vogue shoot was was just

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<v Speaker 3>selfish and personal. How does his Vogue shoot help Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 10>Like I said, it's a PR war almost from the beginning, right,

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<v Speaker 10>he needed And I don't think that's he's worth. What's

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<v Speaker 10>then he's worth like twenty thirty million?

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<v Speaker 2>So is he rich?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like, I don't think that PR helps. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're welcome to stay. Justin and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>catch off, but I have to take this hard break. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Putin is evil, He's satan, He's the devil. Celenski hurt

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<v Speaker 3>his own people today, I think, to advance himself and

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<v Speaker 3>make himself look like a tough guy who stood up

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump handled it beautifully. You're on The Dan Kapla Show.
